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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2014, 04:19:11 PM »
I honestly think this entire thing is a hoax. No one gave any documents or elaborated on it so we're making this assumption blindly based off of peoples words. My XL is still running with analog data...

Can anyone release any documentation on this to prove this claim? It's all based on peoples words which are appearing not to hold up to their words... If that makes sense. Not meaning to sound harsh but really guys. We've been told this multiple times before and it never happened...

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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2014, 07:06:52 AM »
Mattoon/Charleston WeatherSTAR XL was decommissioned early this morning. RIP XL 6/3/2014.
Now we have whatever this is called.
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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2014, 10:22:30 AM »
Mattoon/Charleston WeatherSTAR XL was decommissioned early this morning. RIP XL 6/3/2014.
Now we have whatever this is called.
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I believe that's the IntelliSTAR 2, which is what my grandpa now has in Arkansas.
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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2014, 11:13:14 AM »
I honestly think this entire thing is a hoax. No one gave any documents or elaborated on it so we're making this assumption blindly based off of peoples words. My XL is still running with analog data...

Can anyone release any documentation on this to prove this claim? It's all based on peoples words which are appearing not to hold up to their words... If that makes sense. Not meaning to sound harsh but really guys. We've been told this multiple times before and it never happened...

I don't really see any reason to think this is a hoax, it's already been happening and ongoing as per members here reporting the upgrades. Maybe not as fast as what was previously expected, but it's obviously happening.


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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2014, 11:50:56 AM »
http://gilramirez.net/Star-XL/I2JR.pdf

Perhaps this link I found on the IS2 Jr Wikipedia page may officially confirm the unit's name. It's a PDF of an installation guide.
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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2014, 12:31:22 PM »
Is TWC just using headend locations as the CC city for all STARs now, regardless whether it's centralized in the viewing area or how large the city is? :wacko:

The radar choices aren't the best either, omitting many major cities for lesser known ones. It's like the system just randomly selected cities rather than the technician choosing them themselves.
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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2014, 12:51:56 PM »
I asked about an LDL coming for the IS2Jr Just got word from Melissa Medori "Just heard from the team that this is in process. The I2JR STAR boxes should get an LDL when the enhanced products launch next Tuesday (6/10)." Enhanced products? I wonder if the HD IS2 is getting these enhancements too 

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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2014, 03:20:34 PM »
Is TWC just using headend locations as the CC city for all STARs now, regardless whether it's centralized in the viewing area or how large the city is? :wacko:
That's something I noticed in Arkansas. My grandpa's STAR was always a city nearby (but never particularly close). Now it's his city (which is pretty small).
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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2014, 10:39:09 PM »
I wonder if the new IntelliStar 2 Jr. is eventually going to get the same graphics package as what the original IntelliStar has now? I don't like how the maps are designed, it's too small. Even the IS2 Jr.'s graphics just looks as horrible as IS/IS2 HD's graphics. Yet, I haven't seen my old 4000 since September 1999 and my old XL v2 since March 2004. TWC is now officially dead to me. :cry3:

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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2014, 01:02:22 AM »
Nostalgia's all good and everything, but why is everyone crying over computers that are over 20 years old?  As much as I miss TWC's glory days, I'd be extremely upset if I woke up in the morning to find out that my cable operator's downgraded to anything less than an IntelliStar.  I like to look at up-to-date graphics generated by a modern-generation computer.

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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2014, 04:59:20 AM »
6/10 might mean the Windows 8 look is coming to the IS2 Jr when i asked if the enhancements are coming to the IS2 HD.

"HD already has the "Enhanced Locals" from the original launch back in November."

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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2014, 03:37:15 PM »
Nostalgia's all good and everything, but why is everyone crying over computers that are over 20 years old?  As much as I miss TWC's glory days, I'd be extremely upset if I woke up in the morning to find out that my cable operator's downgraded to anything less than an IntelliStar.  I like to look at up-to-date graphics generated by a modern-generation computer.

This is just my opinion, but if the XL hypothetically would have had the same hardware as the IS, they could have made a few minor adjustments (graphics wise and layout wise) to get it to match the current IS layout. The current version of the XL is not that much different graphically from the current version of the XL if you ask me. It's not like jumping as you said from the IS to a 4000 or JR.


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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2014, 04:35:59 PM »
Nostalgia's all good and everything, but why is everyone crying over computers that are over 20 years old?  As much as I miss TWC's glory days, I'd be extremely upset if I woke up in the morning to find out that my cable operator's downgraded to anything less than an IntelliStar.  I like to look at up-to-date graphics generated by a modern-generation computer.
True that the 4000/Jr./XL's hardware was already showing its age, but I personally don't like how the IntelliStar 2 Jr.'s graphics look. I still think the IntelliStar 2 Jr. could have been better, but instead, it seems like TWC's technical engineers didn't put as much effort. It's basically like IntelliStar 2 HD's original version 1 graphics (circa 2010-October 2013), but with a "toned down, 4:3 safe version", yet most other stations are going widescreen these days. :hammer: Just look at all the other cable networks. It wouldn't surprise me if TWC were to permanently drop its 4:3 cropped broadcast on their official SD feed, or else, the IntelliStar 2 Jr. and even the original IntelliStar would officially be obsolete because both models can only display their local forecast video outputs in 4:3 video. Even the original IntelliStar is already ten years old, despite that it has the latest version 3 graphics that even matches the IntelliStar 2 HD's current version 2 graphics. As for the original IntelliStar, the version 3 overhaul from last November may even be the last ever major update to its software. Yet the IntelliStar Weatherscan model is a year older than its main TWC counterpart model, and even its last major overhaul came all the way back in September 2005, yet some minor updates were made since then, including the icons that were changed in 2010, but hasn't even been updated since last November.

Either way, hopefully someday, besides the 4000 Simulator and the WeatherScan XL Simulator, there would be emulators (or "simulators") that's based off some of TWC's other legacy STARs, maybe even the current STARs too. I have nothing against modern stuff, but I am also a bit of a nostalgia bluff too since I used to watch TWC regularly back in the early 1990s (hence my username because I remember watching TWC with a WeatherSTAR III back in the early '90s up until 1993 when we first got the 4000 at the time).
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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2014, 05:13:07 PM »
They're actually working hard to get the graphics to match the current IStar look for the IS2jr, which will debut next Tuesday, as gt1racer|HD| Stated in a past post.
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Re: 4000/XL/Jr. - The End Is Near
« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2014, 08:36:11 PM »
Confirmed via Twitter this morning

@freddyflaxman: @daveclark @Gt1racer @gdlott Thanks for the tip, Alex! We sent a i2jr SD STAR to Mattoon. The new gfx will be released to it on June 10.