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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => Local Forecast => Topic started by: TWCDude on May 29, 2008, 09:45:50 PM
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Today on TWC, I noticed a new LDL for the IntelliStar. That LDL is a steap foreward for The Weather Channel into high defination. :) If you have any comments about the new LDL, post it here.
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My IntelliStar's LDL hasn't changed. :huh:
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Today on TWC, I noticed a new LDL for the IntelliStar. That LDL is a steap foreward for The Weather Channel into high defination. :) If you have any comments about the new LDL, post it here.
Huh? Can you tell us how the LDL looks like?
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Today on TWC, I noticed a new LDL for the IntelliStar. That LDL is a steap foreward for The Weather Channel into high defination. :) If you have any comments about the new LDL, post it here.
Do you have a beta testing STAR?
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Since the LDL has been introduced in Pittsburgh and Atlanta as beta, I can now reveal a bit if info.
As previously mentioned, its being tested on select Pittsburgh and Atlanta systems, and it's a totally new LDL. It was originally scheduled to go out overnight Monday/early Tuesday AM, but was pushed back due to technical difficulties (unknown to me at this time). It was pushed through successfully early this morning.
About the LDL... it's totally different, in a good way (unless you're expecting another XL-esque transparent LDL). It's blue, and will match the new TWC-HD style. There is no set launch date yet, and I highly doubt it will launch June 2.
Three other HUGE changes to this LDL are:
1) Interstate font goes bye-bye, to match the HD look I assume.
2) The LDL will have the capability to show conditions for 3 cities with larges DMAs/viewership areas.
3) Traffic incidents will now be shown on the LDL. I'm pretty sure the whole incident doesn't show, but rather an abbreviated version (Ie: Incident, I-376 Pkwy East at Blvd of the Allies [what shows on the heading line of the incidents page]).
No, there is no other graphic update to the domestic IS.
The only other change with this release is a bug fix for the wx bulletins screen, where occasionally, the old screen would briefly show before the new one.
Yes the warning bars have changed too, but I have no previews of them, and like I said, have yet to see the LDL in action. So I have no idea what they look like, but I'd imagine they're very similar.
For TWCClassics members... remember when I asked you to vote (http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8811) on whether or not you wanted more watches shown on the LDL, as Tornado and Severe Tstm Watches already do? This is why... this LDL has the capability to show more watches. The specifics are currently unknown, except Flood/Flash Flood watches will be shown. Others may come in the future.
I have not seen this in person yet, as I'm not home, and won't be til late tomorrow night. I'll *try* to get a pic or two then, unless megamanfan can get them now? Until that point, here are the original mock ups straight out of the TWC Creative Dept. Enjoy. :)
(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_A.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_B.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_C.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_D.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_E.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_HURRICANE_A.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_HURRICANE_B.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_SEVERETSTORMS_A.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_SEVERETSTORMS_B.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_TORNADOWARNING_A.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_TORNADOWARNING_B.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_TORNADOWARNING_B2.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_Acopy.jpg) (http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_AAcopy.jpg)
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it's indeed a nice change. love it!
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Today on TWC, I noticed a new LDL for the IntelliStar. That LDL is a steap foreward for The Weather Channel into high defination. :) If you have any comments about the new LDL, post it here.
Do you by chance have any screens/vids of it? :) I'm anxious, lol, and can't wait til tomorrow night to see. :P
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I have not seen this in person yet, as I'm not home, and won't be til late tomorrow night. I'll *try* to get a pic or two then, unless megamanfan can get them now? Until that point, here are the original mock ups straight out of the TWC Creative Dept. Enjoy. :)
([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_A.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_B.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_C.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_D.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_E.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_HURRICANE_A.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_HURRICANE_B.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_SEVERETSTORMS_A.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_SEVERETSTORMS_B.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_TORNADOWARNING_A.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_TORNADOWARNING_B.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_TORNADOWARNING_B2.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_Acopy.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_AAcopy.jpg[/url])
Sorry I didn't get to vote, Tyler. Thanks very much for sharing your mock-ups! Wow, those are great upgrades! Cannot wait to see it for real in the future.
That LDL reminds me a bit of ESPN's Bottom Line with the way they have the league ID tabs atop the LDL display when showing the news items and scores.
Hmmm, the Interstate font is on its way out, huh? But I thought I saw it on the TWC HD satellite LDL, only it's skinnier to match what font is on the IntelliSTAR 36-hour forecast body text. I hope that's what we end up seeing, but your font there is definitely nice, too.
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I'm sorry, but my current TV turner card needs to be replaced. So currently, no screenshots of it can be taken. :( And yes, that's what the new LDL looks like.
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Does the LDL on the local forecast change as well? I ask because I don't think this new LDL matches well with the current LF theme. :no:
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It was changed on there as well. I also agree with you. TWC should have left the last version of the LDL alone, but only for the Local Forecast. :yes:
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Since the LDL has been introduced in Pittsburgh and Atlanta as beta, I can now reveal a bit if info.
As previously mentioned, its being tested on select Pittsburgh and Atlanta systems, and it's a totally new LDL. It was originally scheduled to go out overnight Monday/early Tuesday AM, but was pushed back due to technical difficulties (unknown to me at this time). It was pushed through successfully early this morning.
About the LDL... it's totally different, in a good way (unless you're expecting another XL-esque transparent LDL). It's blue, and will match the new TWC-HD style. There is no set launch date yet, and I highly doubt it will launch June 2.
Three other HUGE changes to this LDL are:
1) Interstate font goes bye-bye, to match the HD look I assume.
2) The LDL will have the capability to show conditions for 3 cities with larges DMAs/viewership areas.
3) Traffic incidents will now be shown on the LDL. I'm pretty sure the whole incident doesn't show, but rather an abbreviated version (Ie: Incident, I-376 Pkwy East at Blvd of the Allies [what shows on the heading line of the incidents page]).
No, there is no other graphic update to the domestic IS.
The only other change with this release is a bug fix for the wx bulletins screen, where occasionally, the old screen would briefly show before the new one.
Yes the warning bars have changed too, but I have no previews of them, and like I said, have yet to see the LDL in action. So I have no idea what they look like, but I'd imagine they're very similar.
For TWCClassics members... remember when I asked you to vote ([url]http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8811[/url]) on whether or not you wanted more watches shown on the LDL, as Tornado and Severe Tstm Watches already do? This is why... this LDL has the capability to show more watches. The specifics are currently unknown, except Flood/Flash Flood watches will be shown. Others may come in the future.
I have not seen this in person yet, as I'm not home, and won't be til late tomorrow night. I'll *try* to get a pic or two then, unless megamanfan can get them now? Until that point, here are the original mock ups straight out of the TWC Creative Dept. Enjoy. :)
([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_A.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_B.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_C.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_D.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/DBS_LDL_E.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_HURRICANE_A.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_HURRICANE_B.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_SEVERETSTORMS_A.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_SEVERETSTORMS_B.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_TORNADOWARNING_A.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_TORNADOWARNING_B.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_TORNADOWARNING_B2.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_Acopy.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/LDL_AAcopy.jpg[/url])
I like the ESPN BottomLine feel to this LDL upgrade...and it looks like a little XL is coming back font-wise. Can't wait to see them when they roll out Nationally!
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They look great! So they will be on all STARs on June 2nd?
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They look great! So they will be on all STARs on June 2nd?
Can you not read? I already stated that answer.
Sorry I didn't get to vote, Tyler. Thanks very much for sharing your mock-ups! Wow, those are great upgrades! Cannot wait to see it for real in the future.
Those aren't mocks by me... those are the official mocks out of the TWC Art Dept. :yes:
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They look great! So they will be on all STARs on June 2nd?
Can you not read? I already stated that answer.
Sorry I didn't get to vote, Tyler. Thanks very much for sharing your mock-ups! Wow, those are great upgrades! Cannot wait to see it for real in the future.
Those aren't mocks by me... those are the official mocks out of the TWC Art Dept. :yes:
I think we know the answer to that question Tyler. :P
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I've seen it first hand, only on the LF right now, as it's not showing during national programming for some reason (megamanfan, have you seen it during national?). Here are my initial observations (it's slightly different than the TWCT pics I posted):
1) There is animation, which I like. The LDL animated in... the tabs animate, and glow when the tab which is meant to be in focus moves left.
2) The Local Ad Crawl is nicer, with smaller font, and, surprisingly, I really like how it looks. I hope the watch/warn/advisory crawls aver very similar.
3) The time AND temp are now shown on the bar at the same time.
4) The data animates downwards, like the Satellite HD LDL.
5) It seems the monthly precip isn't showing during the LF for some reason. That's a bug I'll have to report.
6) The icons really need to be larger.
7) The pressure indicator has been fixed! No more tiny arrows you can't see.
And, as stated, it doesn't match the current LF look that well, but, it's a GREAT improvement, IMO.
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Is anyone seeing their LDL during national right now? Or is it just me not seeing it?
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Mine JUST kicked in.
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In answer to your question, no, the icons don't animate.
I'm seeing the LDL live this morning with new stuff:
1) The almanac data on the LDL has been expanded away from just sunrise/sunset data, to now include monthly precip average and avg high temp for the day.
2) The LDL has a 3 day forecast on it. This may just be a AM feature, though.
3) I'm not seeing Air Quality or UV Outlooks, so I'll report it as a bug.
4) Today's Forecast shows words instead of an icon, which is nice: "SCT'D T'STROMS, A FEW STORMS MAY BE SEVERE. HIGH 76." This also may be just a morning feature.
Seeing a tornado watch now on the LDL now... I like how it's tabbed in there with the other forecast data.
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Update: I'm seeing several counties are missing from the tornado watch on the LDL. This also appears to be a bug. Westmoreland, Greene, and Indiana counties are all missing.
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Wow, very nice!!! It looks a lot better than the black bar!
Question: I know you guys are going to scream at me for this, but does this apply to the SD feed, or? ....
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Wow, very nice!!! It looks a lot better than the black bar!
Question: I know you guys are going to scream at me for this, but does this apply to the SD feed, or? ....
<screams> Yes it does!
J/K :P
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Cool! I hope Comcast in my area will carry the HD channel, but you all know how Comcast is... <_<
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Gil, this is for the SD IntelliStar. :yes:
:rolleyes:
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I knew that. :doh:
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Other things I've noticed through the day:
1) The date is no longer displayed. I will have them note that I, for one, found it useful. Not sure if the removal of the date was intentional or not.
2) Air Quality and the UV Index are only displayed every few rotations. This needs to be looked at.
3) Incidents aren't displaying, even though they are supposed to.
4) Travel Cities, Airport Delays, and the 3 Day forecast are now shown all day, which I don't mind.
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Is the Local Wx ID still shown? Cuz if it is, and the date isn't...I'd seriously bring that to the attention of someone.
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Yes, the id is still shown.
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Here is my first LF with the blue ldl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxeNNLho6Jo (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxeNNLho6Jo")
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Worth saying that I have the new LDL now.
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Here are some clips of the new LDL on national programming and the local forecast here in Gulfport.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YjMOGGU0Lt0 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=YjMOGGU0Lt0)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HKuV5UVVLME (http://youtube.com/watch?v=HKuV5UVVLME)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BZ62Qd2gQnQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=BZ62Qd2gQnQ)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9HRe1wdxqaI (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9HRe1wdxqaI)
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Must be nationwide now. I have it too.
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It is nationwide at this point. I was 100% surprised to see it this morning. I was shocked to say the least. :o
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In addition to the new LDL, the regional maps are back at :18/:48 for us traffic viewers. :)
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DirecTV still has the black bar. I wonder if we'll ever see anything new.
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Another positive thing I noticed is that the Local Weather ID now shows for the same period of time as the current weather information.
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I don't really like how ad crawls are handled on the new LDL. They look too out-of-place and tacked in, to be honest.
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1) Interstate font goes bye-bye, to match the HD look I assume.
Don't jump right on that...I have seen my new LDL and my neighbors LDL. He has Comcast, I have Verizon. SOME not all of the temperatures are still in interstate font. It might be intentional, it might not. Either way I am going to note that to them.
Another note. The Local Ad Crawl shows beautifully, but the tab of what it is has no title, again might be intentional but I'm still going to note it to them.
Funny, I didn't notice but this is my first post.
EDIT: A new note, the wind direction and speed on the LDL is also in Interstate.
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In addition to the new LDL, the regional maps are back at :18/:48 for us traffic viewers. :)
I saw a video from Gulfport, MS
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Sorry for the double post, I just recorded my first video with the new LDL at 6:08 am. I don't know the name of the song.
Also, just now, I recorded a K Flavor to see how my IntelliStar looks like. On the regional conditions, there is no data for Monclova, Mexico. Song I recorded is Brave New World by The Rippingtons. Also featuring the new weekly planner opener at the end.
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Here is my first LF with the blue ldl
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxeNNLho6Jo[/url] (http://"[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxeNNLho6Jo[/url]")
thanks for the video. sorry for double posting again. Back to topic, please.
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I love it, and I am really glad that it is not too complex. It's funny, because they use a similar one on one of my local news stations, so I am used to the tabs on it. But, I like it, because you can now know what your going to see next, I guess.
I am interested to see what it will look like for watches and warnings..
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Is it only me, or are others still seeing the satellite LF with no LDL whatsoever (HD or SD, LF or nat'l programming)?
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Is it only me, or are others still seeing the satellite LF with no LDL whatsoever (HD or SD, LF or nat'l programming)?
I'm seeing TWC just fine. :unsure:
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Okay... let me rephrase that... so far, I am yet to see the new LDL or even my local forecast on both the SD and HD channels. Of course there's no local forecast or LDL on the HD channel during national programming, but when I check my SD channel, all it's showing is the satellite LF with no bar.
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Okay... let me rephrase that... so far, I am yet to see the new LDL or even my local forecast on both the SD and HD channels. Of course there's no local forecast or LDL on the HD channel during national programming, but when I check my SD channel, all it's showing is the satellite LF with no bar.
My IntelliSTAR is fine. :yes:
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Yea, my guess is that the wonderful workers at my headend are either...
A ) playing World of Warcraft
B ) taking their sweet little time upgrading their IS software
C ) just not doing anything at all
D ) doing something special with the STAR system, or
E ) installing an HD STAR system
The options are ranked in order from most likely to least likely.
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It totally looks like they've dropped ceiling information from the LDL. <_<
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It totally looks like they've dropped ceiling information from the LDL. <_<
That absolutley sucks. <_<
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As I pointed out in the graphics thread, the LDL doesn't display the date after the Local Weather ID.
Hopefully that's addressed and it is added to the display of data on it.
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2 words: Love it! :thrilled: :twothumbs:
It totally looks like they've dropped ceiling information from the LDL. <_<
Maybe it's just me, but I always found that kind of information totally useless, and most people probably do too...
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Well, it's 4:31 PM central, and still no sign of the actual LF or any LDLs.
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22420's LDL is taking advantage of the new multi-city feature for reporting sites, using Downtown Pittsburgh as the primary, and Beaver Falls and Washington as additional cities:
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I'm just going to guess that my IS is having problems, because there is still no sign of anything and it's been this way all day. I think that it's just a problem that is yet to be resolved.
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I'm liking it! It's become a miniature LF segment!
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I'm just going to guess that my IS is having problems, because there is still no sign of anything and it's been this way all day. I think that it's just a problem that is yet to be resolved.
what are you seeing on your screen?
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i noticed the change.. its a welcome one.. I think the narration on IS has to go though ....
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I'm just going to guess that my IS is having problems, because there is still no sign of anything and it's been this way all day. I think that it's just a problem that is yet to be resolved.
Are you subscribed to Verizon FiOS TV? Because it's gonna be a few months before the new changes take effect, like what they did with the recent IntelliStar updates and the weather icons.
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I'm just going to guess that my IS is having problems, because there is still no sign of anything and it's been this way all day. I think that it's just a problem that is yet to be resolved.
Are you subscribed to Verizon FiOS TV? Because it's gonna be a few months before the new changes take effect, like what they did with the recent IntelliStar updates and the weather icons.
No, the FiOS stuff has been worked out. All/most future updates should go out with all the other stars.
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Okay, sorry I haven't replied. I just woke up and checked TWC now and my IS has been upgraded. I was just surprised to see that it took so long, while others seemed to get theirs yesterday morning.
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Late today the size of the text for the LAS and traffic crawls was increased, as well as the speed decreased. :yes:
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Yea, my guess is that the wonderful workers at my headend are either...
A ) playing World of Warcraft
B ) taking their sweet little time upgrading their IS software
C ) just not doing anything at all
D ) doing something special with the STAR system, or
E ) installing an HD STAR system
The options are ranked in order from most likely to least likely.
Just so you know, your headend has nothing to do with this upgrade, it is all done by TWC and sent out to every IS via Network Control.
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The watch/warning/advisory ticker is still the version from the old LDL, as some of you have noticed.
I can confirm this with my cable company's IntelliStar (ID 22689).
They may or may not change it. They did not change the WeatherStar XL's watch/warning ticker.
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In case anyone is wondering, here is how Tornado Watches look on the LDL:
(http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3108/tornadowatch2wj8.jpg)
This was after the old red crawl ran for ten minutes.
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Worth noting, if a Severe T'Storm Watch is issued, the icon on the LDL tab is a small thunderbolt.
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Severe Thunderstorm Watch on LDL:
(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1811/severe2ic7.jpg)
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I haven't seen that yet. All I've seen is a continuous orange scroll telling me there's a T'Storm Watch.
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I haven't seen that yet. All I've seen is a continuous orange scroll telling me there's a T'Storm Watch.
You'll see what Billy posted after a while. :yes:
Also, looking at the pic, there is a small issue - the "ET" text is right next to the "weather.com" text on the logo.
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The new LDL would have matched the IntelliStar much better if the text on the LF were to stay blue.
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The LDL has been updated to DirecTV customers. Ignore the music :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTI6fo3WFqw
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Okay, that what the F*&^ING local forecast should look like!
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Still no update on DISH
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Still no update on DISH
Really? I thought all satellite systems get the update :huh:
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Really? I thought all satellite systems get the update :huh:
Dish has a different IS than DirecTV. It's possible they forget to update Dish's STAR, or Dish's STAR is going to receive a different update. :yes:
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I thought they would be first since they have an agreement with TWC to bring local forecasts to their interactive channel
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Full blue bar cycle. HIGH QUALITY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxsrh0bkw2M
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Gosh, my new LDL updated sometime around 1AM, but I have a clip of the new LDL after Storm Stories.
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DISH got their new LDL this morning :dance:
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Gosh, my new LDL updated sometime around 1AM, but I have a clip of the new LDL after Storm Stories.
:offtopic: Storm Stories is back? At what time? Or did you mean ICHT?
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ICHT and Full Force Nature
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Is anyone getting the UV index on their LDL? I've haven't seen it today. :unsure:
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Is anyone getting the UV index on their LDL? I've haven't seen it today. :unsure:
Mine's present. :yes:
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Yeah, I'm seeing it now. I guess the earlier outage caused this to happen.
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Is it just me, or has the temperature on the new LDL been updated? It looks a bit bigger than it used to look.
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Is it just me, or has the temperature on the new LDL been updated? It looks a bit bigger than it used to look.
It is indeed bigger, and appears really blurry on my tuner.
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Yes, it is now bigger, and I also think it's blurrier.
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Looks the same to me. :unsure: Although it might explain why this (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,353.msg48802.html#msg48802) happened last night. :yes:
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It also looks like the repeating Local Weather ID issue has been fixed.
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Here is the best quality shot I could get of the new temperature:
(http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4853/snapshot20080701162118oi1.jpg)
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Now I see the difference. Doesn't look blurry at all to me. :no:
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Hm. Does on my TV...