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TWC Today => TWC Today News => Topic started by: TWCToday on March 12, 2010, 05:18:07 PM
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Recently I have engaged in talks with Matt about the possibility of combining the TWC Classics and TWC Today forums. Are sites would remain separate and would only effect the forums. Perhaps the biggest argument in my opinion for a merge would be to unify the community and have a single source for discussion. Activity as many of you know is down at both forums and it makes sense to combine our efforts.
No actions will be taken without the approval of the TWC communities so any comments and opinions are greatly appreciated. :yes:
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I'm all for it!
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I vote "yes". Will we be merging onto SMF or IPB?
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I vote "yes". Will we be merging onto SMF or IPB?
Would remain SMF. There should be a way to merge databases but those options are still being explored
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I will have to cast my vote as to no. I have several points as to why.
- Some people do not want to be engaged with conversation of current twc or older twc
- What will the solution be for administration? Will we have more admins that we would need?
How would the database be migrated / merged?- Truly, TWCT and TWCC have 2 different community types (besides the fact that one is today and one is classic)
- There can't be a specific domain name like twctodayforums.com or twcclassics.com. This means additional costs.
- Additional hosting costs
- Only one forum software type can be chosen.
- What would happen to the people that are banned at TWCC and not TWCT, or vice versa?
- In my opinion, TWCC and TWCT are two different communities, and should remain as such.
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I will have to cast my vote as to no. I have several points as to why.
- Some people do not want to be engaged with conversation of current twc or older twc
- What will the solution be for administration? Will we have more admins that we would need?
How would the database be migrated / merged?- Truly, TWCT and TWCC have 2 different community types (besides the fact that one is today and one is classic)
- There can't be a specific domain name like twctodayforums.com or twcclassics.com. This means additional costs.
- Additional hosting costs
- Only one forum software type can be chosen.
- What would happen to the people that are banned at TWCC and not TWCT, or vice versa?
- In my opinion, TWCC and TWCT are two different communities, and should remain as such.
All valid points. Appreciate your thoughts and opinions. Here are just a few of my opinions and thoughts in response to yours B)
1. I personally feel having the two forums together would increase activity of both eras. Plus TWCC does have a current TWC section already and we have a classic section. According to the forum stats it seems the current section of TWCC has more activity than the classic section.
2. The admin team of TWCC would be allowed the same positions here unless otherwise specified by one of them.
4. You are correct the two communities are different. TWCC has a large member base and we would hope that more activity and more opportunities to interact would encourage more to participate.
5. The sites TWCToday.com and TWCClassics.com will remain the same. The only thing changing is the forum. twcclassics.com/forum would redirect here. TWCC itself is not going anywhere! ;)
6. Matt and I will continue are current hosting plans. Nothing new will be needed.
7. Matt is going to stop paying for IPB in the next month or so meaning the TWCC forums as they currently are will be converted to SMF anyway soon.
8. This would be dealt with on a situation by situation basis.
9. Thanks for your thoughts :biggrin: Hope I have been able to answer some of your questions/concerns.
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I'm in for yes. TWCC is basically a ghost town now. :no:
However there are users like Lightning, DJK555, MichRocks, VernonMetcalf who only visit and post on TWCC there so they might not visit the forums there do to their devotion to TWCC
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I say yes to this as well. :yes:
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I think it would be a great idea!! :yes: Im all for it!!
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I'm for it. We're all here for the same thing, we might as well be in the same place!
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As long as I get to keep my pretty green color, I'm all for it :happy:
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All valid points. Appreciate your thoughts and opinions. Here are just a few of my opinions and thoughts in response to yours B)
1. I personally feel having the two forums together would increase activity of both eras. Plus TWCC does have a current TWC section already and we have a classic section. According to the forum stats it seems the current section of TWCC has more activity than the classic section.
2. The admin team of TWCC would be allowed the same positions here unless otherwise specified by one of them.
4. You are correct the two communities are different. TWCC has a large member base and we would hope that more activity and more opportunities to interact would encourage more to participate.
5. The sites TWCToday.com and TWCClassics.com will remain the same. The only thing changing is the forum. twcclassics.com/forum would redirect here. TWCC itself is not going anywhere! ;)
6. Matt and I will continue are current hosting plans. Nothing new will be needed.
7. Matt is going to stop paying for IPB in the next month or so meaning the TWCC forums as they currently are will be converted to SMF anyway soon.
8. This would be dealt with on a situation by situation basis.
9. Thanks for your thoughts :biggrin: Hope I have been able to answer some of your questions/concerns.
In response to this: I am changing my vote to yes. xD
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I guess you can put my vote in as a yes. I'm not too familiar with TWCC anyways since I never visit the site or made an account on there. But the TWC Classics board on this forum could really use a boost, imo, as I am learning the history of TWC.
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Wow, Martin...I was wondering when this idea might come up. :thrilled: I think combining TWC Classics and TWC Today is an excellent idea, so I'm all for it. :yes: Essentially, I think the sites should be combined too, but I can see where this may be a problem.
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I have no issues with this proposal to merge the two forums. :happy: I'm already a hybrid fan of the classic and modern eras of TWC. :P
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I vote yes! I like TWC Classics, but I like the forum here (and SMF in general) more. I'd love combining the two sites...we could have the best of both worlds. :)
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If you are a member of TWCC, I strongly encourage you to voice your opinion on this over there as well :yes:
http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/topic/10056-the-future-of-this-forum/ (http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/topic/10056-the-future-of-this-forum/)
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Yeah it seems the members in TWCC are not liking the idea as opposed to here
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I will have to cast my vote as to no. I have several points as to why.
- Some people do not want to be engaged with conversation of current twc or older twc
- What will the solution be for administration? Will we have more admins that we would need?
How would the database be migrated / merged?- Truly, TWCT and TWCC have 2 different community types (besides the fact that one is today and one is classic)
- There can't be a specific domain name like twctodayforums.com or twcclassics.com. This means additional costs.
- Additional hosting costs
- Only one forum software type can be chosen.
- What would happen to the people that are banned at TWCC and not TWCT, or vice versa?
- In my opinion, TWCC and TWCT are two different communities, and should remain as such.
Even though Martin has already answered your questions, I'd like to make a few points.
1 - I wasn't aware that people were required to participate in certain discussions here. Usually, when I see a topic that doesn't interest me, I don't read it. :dunno:
4 - We brought back subforums for "current" Weather Channel discussions over a year ago. Current TWC content was also re-introduced to the site some time ago.
8 - They would still be banned.
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Yeah it seems the members in TWCC are not liking the idea as opposed to here
I think only two people have voted no or unsure.
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I'd go for it too... but there's one major point I'm surprised no one has brought up: how will the STAR team be involved with the merger?
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I'd go for it too... but there's one major point I'm surprised no one has brought up: how will the STAR team be involved with the merger?
The STAR Team will likely continue their operations here. The person behind it has already been a member here. :thumbsup:
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I'd go for it too... but there's one major point I'm surprised no one has brought up: how will the STAR team be involved with the merger?
The STAR Team will likely continue their operations here. The person behind it has already been a member here. :thumbsup:
I know who that person is but I thought the STAR TEAM was a group of people, not one person. :unsure:
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I'd go for it too... but there's one major point I'm surprised no one has brought up: how will the STAR team be involved with the merger?
The STAR Team will likely continue their operations here. The person behind it has already been a member here. :thumbsup:
I know who that person is but I thought the STAR TEAM was a group of people, not one person. :unsure:
Not at the moment at least. Sure its a group of people at TWC but not who visit the forums
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Matt, whatever font you use for the logo on your forums, could you send a copy of it my way (with whatever variations you have (bold, thin, etc)), via PM? I want to start working on forum logo concepts....
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Matt, whatever font you use for the logo on your forums, could you send a copy of it my way (with whatever variations you have (bold, thin, etc)), via PM? I want to start working on forum logo concepts....
Ask Tyler, he does my logos.
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The font is Myriad. It should be on your computer already, if you have an MS Office suite.
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I'm all for it as well!!! :)
I'm a member of both sites, and it would be great to see the two of them merge. That would really boost up the energy in the forums here!!! :yes:
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I'm also for it :biggrin:
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I have no problem with this either. Has it been cleared with TWC? Or at least with the STAR team? How will this affect the administration team? We already have, what, 5 or 6 admins here, plus 2 more in Matt and Tyler? Are we really gonna need 7 or 8 administrators? Also, will, and how will, the content of the 2 forums be merged?
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We already have, what, 5 or 6 admins here, plus 2 more in Matt and Tyler? Are we really gonna need 7 or 8 administrators? Also, will, and how will, the content of the 2 forums be merged?
Yeah we're gonna have more admins in that case. 5 or 6 is enough in that case if both forums are merged.IIRC the content would remain on their seperate sites.
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The sites and their content would be kept separate. The forums would all transition here.
Once I look at the users database and figure out how I will transition them over, I will discuss my findings with Martin and we will pick a weekend in the next few weeks to do it. The forums would be locked and unusable the whole weekend during the users merge seeing as how I might have to import them one by one manually. This is just fair warning to everyone on both forums. I will look at the db in a few days.
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Wait a minute, are you an admin now Jesse?
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I know who that person is but I thought the STAR TEAM was a group of people, not one person. :unsure:
Not at the moment at least. Sure its a group of people at TWC but not who visit the forums
Actually, there's another person by the name of Bob Farmer who visits, as he has put his name on his posts a few times in topics I have made. I also think there was an older group who utilized the Stars prior to mid-2006.
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Wait a minute, are you an admin now Jesse?
No. :thinking:
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Wait a minute, are you an admin now Jesse?
He's not the admin. He's just telling us about the future merge of TWCC. That's all.
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I'm not an admin. I'm working with martin, he is making ALL the decisions in regards to this merger. I'm pretty much his bitch and am doing the behind the scenes part. As I have said before to Martin, and I will say it here: I would not accept a promotion to adminship. It creates a conflict of interest. If Martin has any problems with the things I work on, he usually immediately tells me.
As Ana said, I was explaining the merger process, with Martin's permission.
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I am working with Jesse on our database as I need his help. Thats all!
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We already have, what, 5 or 6 admins here, plus 2 more in Matt and Tyler? Are we really gonna need 7 or 8 administrators? Also, will, and how will, the content of the 2 forums be merged?
Yeah we're gonna have more admins in that case. 5 or 6 is enough in that case if both forums are merged.IIRC the content would remain on their seperate sites.
While I might need admin privileges to do certain things (like pin a topic), I currently have no interest in banning people, responding to complaints about posts, or anything else an admin typically does.
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We already have, what, 5 or 6 admins here, plus 2 more in Matt and Tyler? Are we really gonna need 7 or 8 administrators? Also, will, and how will, the content of the 2 forums be merged?
Yeah we're gonna have more admins in that case. 5 or 6 is enough in that case if both forums are merged.IIRC the content would remain on their seperate sites.
While I might need admin privileges to do certain things (like pin a topic), I currently have no interest in banning people, responding to complaints about posts, or anything else an admin typically does.
Well then I guess that pretty much takes care of that issue. LOL. :D
Honestly though, I have no interest in performing most admin functions either. The only reason I elect to keep the title is because I founded the site. I couldn't tell ya when I last performed any admin function lol.
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I feel the admin position is mostly a respect situation. I wont ever remove Gary from an admin position because clearly he deserves the position. Matt also deserves it in my opinion. People view the admin position as something far greater than it really is I think. I have put thought into a Global Moderator position that has nearly the same privileges as an admin and if Matt would consider that option I would rework how I will implement his admin team and even take another look at my own.
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I have put thought into a Global Moderator position that has nearly the same privileges as an admin and if Matt would consider that option I would rework how I will implement his admin team and even take another look at my own.
I like the Global Moderator idea.
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I have put thought into a Global Moderator position that has nearly the same privileges as an admin and if Matt would consider that option I would rework how I will implement his admin team and even take another look at my own.
I like the Global Moderator idea, too. There's going to be a lot of sorting to do after this merge, so I want to let all the admins from TWCT and TWCC know that I'm more than happy to help all of you in whatever ways you think is best. :yes:
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I vote yes. Here are my reasons:
-The two sites basically have the same forums.
-The sites also have pretty much the same section, just with different looks.
-Also, all of the same users are on both sites.
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-Also, all of the same users are on both sites.
Not even close. Yes, there's some overlap, but there's a large number of TWCC members that aren't here and TWCT members that aren't TWCC members. That's why Martin and Jesse are trying to merge the member lists.
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As long as I can continue to post my Local Climate Data Daily and sometimes comment on other topics : I`ll be fine !
I wish you be best on deciding what to do if is becomes necessary to combine any part of this Great Forum.
Posting may be down due to winter weather is almost over. I say this with caution.
Active spring storms may restart postings with some.
I heard the other night on one of Memphis, Tn`s TV stations that Facebook has more views now than Google.
Google messed me up just a few days ago by changing their writing new post page.
It is super slow on my computer.
So I was forced to move my Blogs to My Facebook Notes.
Again Good Luck with any changes needed here.
I noticed with my most recent post that I now can again use the same color on two different lines.
That is very handy for me. :D
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You'll still be able to post your weather reports here William. Thanks for posting those. :)
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I think its very cool you keep a detailed log here! Wish I had the time to take on that myself
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This is a test post of a sample user imported from the TWC Classics database. If this post goes through, we are set for user importation! Test Test Testly McNuggets! :happy:
/me slaps jtmal0723 around a bit with a large trout.
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So, is the merger going to happen, or are we still not sure yet? If so, I'll need to speak to Martin privately regarding some issues when he gets the chance.
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So, is the merger going to happen, or are we still not sure yet? If so, I'll need to speak to Martin privately regarding some issues when he gets the chance.
The merger is on schedule and set to start on the night of April 4th. I don't know how long it will take, seeing as how I have to manually do the import one by one, and there are 543 users to import. I'll keep you all updated.
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This is a test post of a sample user imported from the TWC Classics database. If this post goes through, we are set for user importation! Test Test Testly McNuggets! :happy:
/me slaps jtmal0723 around a bit with a large trout.
Yes it works.
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So, is the merger going to happen, or are we still not sure yet? If so, I'll need to speak to Martin privately regarding some issues when he gets the chance.
Likely as Matt has agreed. PM me of concerns or send me an IM.
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Inquiry. What about those who's accounts have the same name in both places (aka me)?
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AS I have already stated, all TWCC accounts are going to be imported with a TWCC_ prefix on them to avoid merge conflicts. Once done, then I'll go through and delete the duplicates and users can change the usernames if they wish... since I'm not merging posts, this shouldn't be a difficult feat to accomplish.
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AS I have already stated, all TWCC accounts are going to be imported with a TWCC_ prefix on them to avoid merge conflicts. Once done, then I'll go through and delete the duplicates and users can change the usernames if they wish... since I'm not merging posts, this shouldn't be a difficult feat to accomplish.
IMO, whichever is the earliest join date should go onto the TWCT profiles. Would this be possible? Also, why aren't you bringing TWCC posts onto here? There's a lot of threads I look through in there to look at past TWC events and files.
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AS I have already stated, all TWCC accounts are going to be imported with a TWCC_ prefix on them to avoid merge conflicts. Once done, then I'll go through and delete the duplicates and users can change the usernames if they wish... since I'm not merging posts, this shouldn't be a difficult feat to accomplish.
IMO, whichever is the earliest join date should go onto the TWCT profiles. Would this be possible? Also, why aren't you bringing TWCC posts onto here? There's a lot of threads I look through in there to look at past TWC events and files.
yea such as old playlist topics
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AS I have already stated, all TWCC accounts are going to be imported with a TWCC_ prefix on them to avoid merge conflicts. Once done, then I'll go through and delete the duplicates and users can change the usernames if they wish... since I'm not merging posts, this shouldn't be a difficult feat to accomplish.
IMO, whichever is the earliest join date should go onto the TWCT profiles. Would this be possible? Also, why aren't you bringing TWCC posts onto here? There's a lot of threads I look through in there to look at past TWC events and files.
The decision not to merge the posts and topics was made by Matt. It may be possible but I am unsure of that. Regardless Matt informed me he wanted to keep all the posts "archived" in a locked forum.
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So, how again is the STAR team going to be involved under this? Are they going to have their own section here like they do now on TWCC?
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So, how again is the STAR team going to be involved under this? Are they going to have their own section here like they do now on TWCC?
Technically they already do ;)
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So, how again is the STAR team going to be involved under this? Are they going to have their own section here like they do now on TWCC?
Technically they already do ;)
Well gee, I don't see it ;)
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So, how again is the STAR team going to be involved under this? Are they going to have their own section here like they do now on TWCC?
It's being worked out.
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Well gee, I don't see it ;)
STAR Team=Tonyfatl in this forum. :)
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I have to say, I can't say I'm opposed to the idea, however I can't say I'm all for it either. I'll stay neutral and keep my mouth shut.
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Its fine, joey. Im neutral as well.