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Title: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on September 13, 2008, 02:35:49 AM
Ever since when TWC was relaunched back in 2005, cable TV is going downhill, and TWC isn't the only one. Do you think cable TV is declining? I think it is personaly because of the lack of good programing, good channels, and higher cable rates. I used to watch TWC all the time until 2005 (shortly before the relaunch). Another win for network television. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: NicoleWasHere on September 13, 2008, 06:09:07 AM
Cable TV started going downhill in 2002, in my opinion.  Especially when reality TV became a huge thing, and just had to be shoved in our faces, everywhere.  <_<  It's reality tv that's killing cable; I don't need to see how trashy Bob is, or how slutty Peggy Sue is, or how big of a twat Hannah is.  TWC is the LEAST of cables problems, there're way worse networks out there, like E! or VH-1, or MTV.  NO ONE wants to see how the trashier citizens of America can easily snag their own timeslot.  No way, man.


Until I see Stephanie Abrams and Jim Cantore going on a drunken rampage and punching everyone's lights out, or Mike Bettes sliding on a strippers pole, I'd say TWC's just fine.   :twothumbs:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 13, 2008, 08:50:57 AM
Umm...why's the poll locked?  :huh:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on September 13, 2008, 07:32:01 PM
Umm...why's the poll locked?  :huh:
When I was editing, I accendently chose "select mutible choices." Anyone could of clicked both "Yes" and "No" and summited.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on September 13, 2008, 07:34:30 PM
I want to close this tread and start over again to include a poll.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 13, 2008, 07:37:30 PM
I've edited this poll. You needn't start a new one.  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on September 13, 2008, 08:04:13 PM
I've edited this poll. You needn't start a new one.  :sunglasses:
Thank you.  :happy:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Alejandro on September 13, 2008, 08:34:50 PM
Cable TV here has been going downhill Ever since comcast came in my area after Buying out AT&T New England & MediaOne South Coast in 2001 thats when hell broke loose and cable here has never been the same since
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 13, 2008, 08:36:54 PM
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Gil on September 13, 2008, 09:27:15 PM
I want AT&T Broadband back...
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on September 13, 2008, 09:46:26 PM
I miss Suburban Cable. :(
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on September 14, 2008, 01:00:03 AM
Around here, I miss UA Cable, TCI, and Insight Communications. Those were three cable companys that used to be in my area.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on September 21, 2008, 04:42:57 AM
Here's some noticeble cable channels that I think is going downhill:

1. Cartoon Network. Reason why... First off: They stopped showing all of the "good cartoons." As a result, they "rolled on their own" (probliy in refrence to to their sister network, Boomerang). Second: They keep showing all of these stupid and really boring Japanese animes. I hate anime! Third: They are airing live-action movies that are not animated and movies thats shown on either basic cable/satellite/broadcast takes away all of the good stuff. I also hate commercials! See link below:
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cartoon-Network/Cartoon-Network-General-Comments/336?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cartoon-Network/Cartoon-Network-General-Comments/336?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

2. CNBC. Reason why... The anchors become more important than the market. America is in a financal crises and the price of oil keeps going up! See link below:
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cnbc/Cnbc-General-Comments/391?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cnbc/Cnbc-General-Comments/391?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

3. CNN/CNN Headline News. Reason why... When they canceled Inside Pollitics Crossfire, Newsnight, and Palla Zhan Live. Also over at Headline News, their sister network jumped too when they launched "Headline Prime" back in 2005. I hate Glen Beck and they need to bring back Aarron Brown, Palla Zhan, and Judy Woodruff! Also, the news had became too harsh these days since Hurricane Katrina.
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cnn/Cnn-General-Comments/392?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cnn/Cnn-General-Comments/392?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

4. Tru TV (formaly Court TV). Reason why... Nancy Grace anchors (including Headline News), they have bad programming choices, and the overall theme changed. No one is watching 20+ year old reruns of COPS! I also think it was a bad idea to rename Court TV.
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Court-Tv/Court-Tv-General-Comments/429?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Court-Tv/Court-Tv-General-Comments/429?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

5. E! Reason why... Day one. West cost bias sucks! Nuff said.
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/E-News/E-News-General-Comments/615 (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/E-News/E-News-General-Comments/615)

6. Fox News Channel. Reason why: Day one, its more like "Republican TV," Declared that Bush won Florida back in 2000, annoying news alerts every four minutes, it attempted to be hip, and having all of those annoying scrawls, tickers, and pop-ups. (Even both CNN and MSNBC does it too as well as TWC!) At lease I don't mind the gas mask reporting.
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Fox-News-Channel/Fox-News-Channel-General-Comments/712?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true

7. GSN. Reason why: They hide the classics, they always condense the credits, they have a stupid time compression, and also, they have a lack of the Goodman/Todman classics.
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Game-Network/Game-Network-General-Comments/744?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Game-Network/Game-Network-General-Comments/744?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

8. The History Channel. Reason why: They dumbed down and when they stopped airing all of the documentaries.
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/History-Channel/History-Channel-General-Comments/914?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/History-Channel/History-Channel-General-Comments/914?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

9. MTV. Reason why: Shows instead of videos, Yo MTV Raps, Beavis and Butt-head get canned, recycling (the same shows again!), they stopped showing the astronaut sticking the flag on the moon, and commercials. They don't even have good music anymore! Something which even TWC would not air!
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Mtv-Music-Television/Mtv-Music-Television-General-Comments/1364?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Mtv-Music-Television/Mtv-Music-Television-General-Comments/1364?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

10. Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite. Reason why: Lousy shows (like on rival Cartoon Network), annoying Jimmy Neutron ads, when they stopped showing the game shows, too much SpongeBob, plays the same shows too much, Avatar, Catscratch, Nick at Nite overkill, and too much The Fresh Prince of Bel Air reruns.
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Nickelodeon/Nickelodeon-General-Comments/1430?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Nickelodeon/Nickelodeon-General-Comments/1430?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

11. VH1. Reason why: No more videos (just like on their sister network, MTV), celeb-Reality, The Fabulous Life of __________, and all countdowns, all the time!
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Vh1/Vh1-General-Comments/20714?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Vh1/Vh1-General-Comments/20714?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

12. The Weather Channel. Reason why: They started to create full-length programs, became too political ever since the 2005 Hurricane season, the guy started talking over the local forecasts, It Could Happen Tomorrow, it became "the hurricane authority," everything is life or death, they became alarmists, when they changed the typeface on the local forecast, IntelliSTAR, they axed the WeatherSTAR 3000, they stopped doing "Weather and Your Home," when Hillary Andrews left, the 2005 relaunch, when Jim Cantore started shaving his scalp, the death of John Hope, Forecast Earth, and when they started airing in HD.
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Weather-Channel/Weather-Channel-General-Comments/2139?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Weather-Channel/Weather-Channel-General-Comments/2139?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

13. TV Guide Network (formaly Prevue Guide/Prevue Channel/TV Guide Channel). Reason why: Rupert Merdoct bought out TV Guide and "FOXed" it up, when they stopped using the local program guide scroll, when they shrunked the local TV listings and added graffical ads (including the magizine), when they started showing orginal programing, too much American Idol, and when they disconenued the program preview segments (like Prevue Tonight, and Family VUE). I now find the newspaper and the internet to be more useful these days!  :wacko:

14. ESPN/ESPN2. Reason why: Stuart Scott has to constantly prove he's "da bomb," they cover the WNBA, it got Disneyfied (I really hate Disney and I wish The Walt Disney Company would sell ESPN!), they only talk about games on their networks (including ABC Sports), they "FOXed"-up the set and logo, and when Rupert Murdoch buys the regional networks (even though he really owns rival FSN).
http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Sportscenter/Sportscenter-General-Comments/1849?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true (http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Sportscenter/Sportscenter-General-Comments/1849?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true)

15. TNT. Reason why: "We Know Drama." No body is watching anymore! :whistling:

16. FX. Reason why: its a ripoff of Fox! 'Nuff said.

16. WGN America (formally Superstation WGN). Reason why: When they stopped showing WGN Morning News on their cable channel, when they stopped showing Bozo the Clown, whenever they would black out their local Chicago newscasts with reruns of crappy shows or edited movies, reruns of crappy shows and edited movies, when they stopped showing The WB and never showed The CW on their cable channel, and lastly... CUBS MANIA!!! I hate the Cubs!  :furious:  I'm really a St. Louis Cardinals fan!

So there you have it. I'm so sorry you guys. I still love TWC and I still like to watch it. Its just that they made it so harsh these days. It not like how it was back in the '80s, '90s, and all the way into the early 2000s (before the 2005 relaunch). :cry: Plus I miss the WeatherSTAR 3000.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: ABC7 on October 07, 2008, 05:01:25 PM
You forgot about the Disney Channel...
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 07, 2008, 05:05:22 PM
You forgot about the Disney Channel...
Who watches the Disney Channel these days? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on October 07, 2008, 05:41:41 PM
Disney Channel =  :sick:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: ABC7 on October 07, 2008, 07:15:47 PM
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Who watches the Disney Channel nowadays?
I hate to say it, but all of those obsessive preteen girls are.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on October 07, 2008, 09:28:18 PM
I always hated the Disney Channel anyways. Plus I even think Disney ruined both ESPN and even ABC -- a non-cable network!
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on October 07, 2008, 09:31:30 PM
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Who watches the Disney Channel nowadays?
I hate to say it, but all of those obsessive preteen girls are.
Yeah, especially Hannah Montana  :sick:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: jtmal0723 on October 08, 2008, 12:19:53 AM
Here's some noticeble cable channels that I think is going downhill:

12. The Weather Channel. Reason why: They started to create full-length programs, became too political ever since the 2005 Hurricane season, the guy started talking over the local forecasts, It Could Happen Tomorrow, it became "the hurricane authority," everything is life or death, they became alarmists, when they changed the typeface on the local forecast, IntelliSTAR, they axed the WeatherSTAR 3000, they stopped doing "Weather and Your Home," when Hillary Andrews left, the 2005 relaunch, when Jim Cantore started shaving his scalp, the death of John Hope, Forecast Earth, and when they started airing in HD.
[url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Weather-Channel/Weather-Channel-General-Comments/2139?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url] ([url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Weather-Channel/Weather-Channel-General-Comments/2139?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url])

So there you have it. I'm so sorry you guys. I still love TWC and I still like to watch it. Its just that they made it so harsh these days. It not like how it was back in the '80s, '90s, and all the way into the early 2000s (before the 2005 relaunch). :cry: Plus I miss the WeatherSTAR 3000.
The Weather Star III was put out of commission by the FCC December 31, 2005 because it did not have the capacity to sound an aural tone each time a severe weather alert displayed on screen. They could have fixed it, but it would have been costly millions to fix each one. This one wasn't TWC's fault.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: beanboy89 on October 08, 2008, 12:48:27 AM

The Weather Star III was put out of commission by the FCC December 31, 2004 because it did not have the capacity to sound an aural tone each time a severe weather alert displayed on screen. They could have fixed it, but it would have been costly millions to fix each one. This one wasn't TWC's fault.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: jtmal0723 on October 08, 2008, 05:06:29 PM
I miss Garden State Cable... atleast if you forgot to pay your bill, every channel would have been The Weather Channel  B)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 08, 2008, 05:22:25 PM
I miss Garden State Cable... atleast if you forgot to pay your bill, every channel would have been The Weather Channel  B)
Me too! I had Garden State until 1999 when my parents switched to Comcast
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on October 08, 2008, 05:33:57 PM
I never had Garden State because I didn't live in NJ when the cable co. existed, but there are some transformers around my neighborhood that still have the the GSC logo on them.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Squizz on October 09, 2008, 11:14:34 AM
Not really, when the DTV switch is coming up I think that cable will be going uphill.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: ilovemikebettes on October 10, 2008, 02:40:57 PM
Until I see Stephanie Abrams and Jim Cantore going on a drunken rampage and punching everyone's lights out, or Mike Bettes sliding on a strippers pole, I'd say TWC's just fine.   :twothumbs:
:rofl2: You just gave me an idea for a story I'm working on,Nicole.  :yes: That would be hilarious,though.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on October 10, 2008, 10:51:32 PM
Not really, when the DTV switch is coming up I think that cable will be going uphill.
Technicly not. I found out that my cable line-up only has one network affilite. To make this simplified, Comcast in my area only has one ABC affiliate (WHOI), one CBS affiliate (WMBD), one CW affiliate (WHOI-DT2), one Fox affiliate (WYZZ), one My Network TV affiliate (WAOE), one PBS affiliate (WTVP), and one NBC affiliate (WEEK).

I found out that its still possible to pick up regional stations that are not avaiable on the cable line-up. For instance, according to antennaweb.org, I would still be able to pick up these stations in Peoria:

WCIA (CBS) - Champaign, IL
WHBF (CBS) - Rock Island, IL
KWQC (NBC) - Davenport, IL
KWQC-WX (a weather station that differs from either TWC or NBC WX+) - same location
KHQA (CBS) - Hannabal, MO
KHQA-DT2 (ABC) - same location
WQAD (ABC) - Moline, IL
WQAD-WX (another inpendent 24 hour local weather station) - same location
WBQC-LP (My Network TV) - same location
WGEM (NBC) - Quincy, IL
WGEM-DT2 (CW) - same location
WILL (PBS SD) - Champaign, IL
WILL-HD (PBS HD) - same location
WILL-DT3 (PBS World) - same location
WSEC (PBS) - Jacksonville, IL
KYOU (Fox) - Ottumwa, IA
WAND (NBC) - Decatur, IL
WAND-WX (NBC Wx+) - same location
KLJB (Fox) - Davenport, IA
KLJB-DT2 (CW) - same location
WICS (ABC) - Springfield, IL
WMEC (PBS) - Chatham, IL
WBUI (CW) - Decatur, IL
WQPT (PBS) - Moline, IL
KGCW (CW) - Burlington, IA
WQEC (PBS) - Quincy, IL
WFLD (Fox) - Chicago, IL
WWTO/W50DDD (TBN) - LaSalle, IL
KQIN (PBS) - Davenport, IA
WCFN (My Network TV) - Springfield, IL
WRSP (Fox) - Springfield, IL


With a tall 100 foot outdoor motorized rooftop antenna, an amplifier, some tin foil, DTV converter boxes, long cables, and special adapter, I would be able to pick up at least 31 brodcast stations from my hometown of Peoria, IL. These 31 additional stations are not avaiable on Comcast's channel line-up and yet, I can still watch it for free. Also, suposealy, the annena thats used at the cable headends are more powerful than any typical personal resdential antenna. They waste that powerful antenna just to have only one affiliate per station. Hence "CATV" ("Community Antenna Television") - the early concept of cable. They also don't have all of my local and regional AM and FM radio stations avaible on the channel line-up. I wish we could have radio on television!  :rolleyes:

Anyways, thats three CBS affiliates, three NBC affiliates, three ABC afilliates, four CW afilliates, four Fox afilliates, six PBS afilliates (excluding their HD and World channels), one TBN afilliate, and three My Network TV affiliates.

Also, both WEEK and WTVP have their digital subchannels carried on the digital cable line-up. That means that you would have to pay extra every month if its not avaiable on the annalog cable line-up.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on October 11, 2008, 07:51:40 PM
Some channel are going downhill.

The Weather Channel: I like TWC, but the High Def days are going downhill. I like BWTL & Live By It better than this slogan.

All Spanish channel I've see. They're going downhill because I can't stand it anymore.  <_<

Any non local news channel. They're going downhill because I remeber they were focusing on Hurricance Gustav/Ike.
 :thumbdown:
That's all.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: jtmal0723 on October 13, 2008, 02:43:41 PM
Sorry, HD is what The Weather Channel needed and I loved it since day one... Now, if only all the newscast programs went that way up front instead of a 2 month "transition" period....
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on October 16, 2008, 11:58:26 PM
Here's some more noticeble cable channels that I think jumped the shark:

18. Spike TV (formaly TNN -- The Nashville Network). Reason why: too much UFC, TNA, and all that other wresleling garbage! Its just as bad as the WWE! So much for the first ever "Men's network!"

19. QVC. Reason why: the internet ruining home shopping on TV. Back in the '80s and '90s (before the internet), home shopping channels like QVC and HSN was one of the best places to order items. Even back then, it was fun to watch too. Even I used to watch QVC alot back in the late '90s, early '00s.  :rolleyes:

20. HSN. Reason why: same thing as QVC. Even I use to watch HSN alot too back when I was little.

21. BET. Reason why: raceism. African Americans needs to stop listing to that rap music and listen to the music on TWC!  I even bet famous Afican Americans (like Barack Obama and Jessie Jackson) are tuning out BET too.

22. AMC. Reason why: Airing post-2000 movies (2000-present day). So whats next for American Movie Classics? Recently released movies from earlier this year? Plus watching movies on basic cable sucks, because its edited and they would always would have those annoying commercial breaks durring the movie!

23. ABC Family (formaly CBN Family, The Family Channel, Fox Family). Reason why: when Disney bought out the station after when Fox sold it. Like the Disney Channel, alot of the programming from ABC Family sucks these days.

24. Lifetime. Reason why: "Television for women." Don't expect to see Lifetime to be the the new home for the Super Bowl. :whistling:

25. Bravo. Reason why: Another chick channel. No affence of course.

26. Food Network. Reason why: the obeasity epicdemic. Stop eating making all of those greasy foods!

27. Disney Channel/Toon Disney. Reason why: day one. I hate Disney! They are an monopoly! :furious: Plus they even took all of the good cartoons away from both The CW and Cartoon Network. That's Warner Brothers property! Disney is supose to hate Warner Brothers (hence Daffy Duck and Donald Duck -- othough no releation).

28. TLC. Reason why: no more education shows. Don't ever they know what "E/I" is?  :wacko:

29. FSN. Reason why: when old man Rupert Merdoct just had to buyout every regional sports network. He even owns FSN Midwest which is our regional FSN affiliate! Fox doesn't know sports!

30. Oxygen. Reason why: Yet another chick channel. NBC Universial should of not bought out the channel and should of not aired the Olympics on it. I think Disney would of been a better choice because, they aready "F"ed-up ABC. They already ruined one of the major network televison stations and started to air more chick shows on ABC (like Desperite Housewifes and Super Nanny). I hope NBC woun't ruin TWC!

31. Golf Channel. Reason why: day one. I rather watch pro football or pro baseball! P.S. Go St. Louis Cardinals! P.P.S. Also, go Rams!  :biggrin:

32. SoapNet. Reason why: yet another chick channel. I even herd that they are rarely airing any recent soap oprea episodes from the network television stations (like As The World Turns and Day of Our Lives).

33. Style. Reason why: day one. Plus its not another channel that appeals me.

So there you have it. Even Comcast just had to add fuel to the fire. All of us are sick and tired of watching crappy shows on a good channel or even crappy channels that no one is watching. And lets not forget a whopping $70.00 a month just for basic cable!  :clap:

The only channels that I could name that haven't jumped the shark are:
Let's hope they continue staying strong.  ;)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: jtmal0723 on October 17, 2008, 01:39:35 AM
I'm going to rebut some of your choices there...

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23. ABC Family (formaly CBN Family, The Family Channel, Fox Family). Reason why: when Disney bought out the station after when Fox sold it. Like the Disney Channel, alot of the programming from ABC Family sucks these days.
I watch ABC Family for one show thus far: Kyle XY. If it were to move to another network and continue to be a strong show, I would agree, the Family channel needs to go.

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25. Bravo. Reason why: Another chick channel. No affence of course.
A lot of guys watch this channel. Gay or not, female or not, it's a good channel... I like Top Design and Project Runway...

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28. TLC. Reason why: no more education shows. Don't ever they know what "E/I" is?  :wacko:
Sorry... I'm going to have to say no. They produce a lot of entertaining shows that I like... to name a few: Take Home Chef, Take Home Handyman, Little People, Big World, While You Were Out, Trading Spaces, What Not to Wear... those are the ones I like...

If you think I'm weird, just say so. I won't take offense to it. That is my rebuttal to some of your answers.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on October 17, 2008, 01:55:36 AM
Well, we do have our own opinions.  :yes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Squizz on October 18, 2008, 12:06:50 PM
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4. Tru TV (formaly Court TV). Reason why... Nancy Grace anchors (including Headline News), they have bad programming choices, and the overall theme changed. No one is watching 20+ year old reruns of COPS! I also think it was a bad idea to rename Court TV.
[url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Court-Tv/Court-Tv-General-Comments/429?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url] ([url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Court-Tv/Court-Tv-General-Comments/429?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url])



I love TruTV, not as much as I love TWC but I love it. I love Forensic Files. Plus, I love the 20+ year old reruns of COPS!
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on October 18, 2008, 12:10:06 PM
TruTV is still good. I like their pursuit/crime type shows, but I wish I had it on basic cable here. I can only get it on the living room TV and it's often in use by someone else. I do however have it on basic at my other house. COPS also often runs on my FOX affiliate.

There are still a handful of channels out there like Discovery and History that are good, though they got rid of several shows that I enjoyed watching in the late 90's/early 2000's.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Squizz on October 18, 2008, 12:10:51 PM
I.D. is awesome too.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on October 22, 2008, 05:00:17 PM
I forgot to mention one more channel that I think jumped the shark:
 
34. Fox Busness Network. Reason why: Day one. Its basicly alot like their sister network, Fox News! I still think CNBC is better anyways.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Squizz on October 24, 2008, 05:32:58 PM
I hate Fox Buisiness... I do like Fox News. For buisiness, CNBC is a lot better, but I really don't give a crap about stocks. So I don't really watch either Fox Buisiness or CNBC.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on November 08, 2008, 07:11:17 PM
Not sure about you guys, but I think GSN has improved in recent months. They've cut back their own crappy reality game shows and brought back older game shows like the 2002 Pyramid, the Ray Combs version of Family Feud, among a few others. They also debuted a new logo this week, which I like better than the previous plain one.

IMO, GSN is currently at its best stage since before the 2004 relaunch.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 08, 2008, 07:32:02 PM
Not sure about you guys, but I think GSN has improved in recent months. They've cut back their own crappy reality game shows and brought back older game shows like the 2002 Pyramid, the Ray Combs version of Family Feud, among a few others. They also debuted a new logo this week, which I like better than the previous plain one.

IMO, GSN is currently at its best stage since before the 2004 relaunch.

Agreed. I used to like GSN but once they started putting on their own shows I was quickly turned off.  :yes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: tpirfan28 on November 09, 2008, 10:04:41 AM
Oh please.  2002 Pyramid sucks.  Dick Clark all the way.

And Fox Business sucks, too.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 09, 2008, 03:52:05 PM
Oh please.  2002 Pyramid sucks.  Dick Clark all the way.

And Fox Business sucks, too.

I would have to agree.  :yes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on November 09, 2008, 10:43:39 PM
Oh please.  2002 Pyramid sucks.  Dick Clark all the way.

And Fox Business sucks, too.

I would have to agree.  :yes:
I agree as well. The old Pyramid was much better.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: narunetto on November 12, 2008, 01:31:01 PM
I wanna see the old game shows in the way they used to show em. Seeing old episodes of the price is right was nice.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on November 12, 2008, 03:31:06 PM
Oh please.  2002 Pyramid sucks.  Dick Clark all the way.

And Fox Business sucks, too.
I like the 2002 one better because its more modern, and was the first one I discovered (I didn't come across GSN yet when it premiered). Though, that's probably because I was born in the 90's and haven't seen most of the classic shows when they were in production.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Grgeiger on November 24, 2008, 11:16:07 AM
I am going to throw a few more channels..

TV Land.. Now showing original programming rather than old sitcoms in the evening.

WGN America.. Showing 3 hour blocks of America's Funniest Home Videos in prime time.

TNN.. Giving up Nashville altogether and changing to Spike TV

VH1 Classic and MTV2 were suppose to be strictly video music channels.. An Alternative to MTV and VH-1 But I hardly see videos on any of them.

ABC Family.. Used to be CBN.. owned by Pat Robertson.. It used to be 24 hour religion. Then started to become commerical.. Eventually old reruns of Flipper, and Lassie were filtered in. It became the Family Channel..  I think it eventually was sold to ABC. ABC eventually was sold to Disney. Funny thing 700 Club is still on ABC Family. Now its more or less another teen channel..

RFDTV seems to be close to what the old CMT, and TNN were.. I was scared when I found they were going to air Imus in the morning. But they haven't changed much. They have become better. Adding old Hee Haw, Pop Goes the Country, Crook and Chase.. As long as they don't eventually become what CMT is today.. They will be fine. My guess is someone will buy them and dismantle the channel.

BBC America is an OK channel.

Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: jtmal0723 on November 24, 2008, 01:36:56 PM
ABC Family.. Used to be CBN.. owned by Pat Robertson.. It used to be 24 hour religion. Then started to become commerical.. Eventually old reruns of Flipper, and Lassie were filtered in. It became the Family Channel..  I think it eventually was sold to ABC. ABC eventually was sold to Disney. Funny thing 700 Club is still on ABC Family. Now its more or less another teen channel..
ABC Family is contracted to air The 700 club every day. That's one of the requirements by CBN for owning the channel.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: crp88 on November 24, 2008, 04:25:22 PM
Some networks that I think have gone downhill:

TV Land- Used to show classic tv programming along with retromercials, but now shows more modern programming along with reality shows and movies.

Headline News- Used to be round the clock headlines every 30 minutes. Since '05 has increased the number of longform programming such as "Nancy Grace" and "Showbiz Tonight".

MTV, VH1 & CMT- Practically all reality crap with little music programming.

Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite- No longer has that special feeling to it, or a must watch.

truTV- Limited court room coverage, with mostly reality crap (see a trend here?)

MSNBC- allegations of liberal bias with personalities such as Olbermann and Maddow. Also has really no live news coverage on weekends.

CNBC- Too much Paid Programming on weekends

CNN- Boring news coverage, plus they gave DL Hughley his own show. WTF?

Bravo- Pretty much all reality programming

AMC- Commercials, edited movies, annoying popups etc.

Fox News- allegations of conservative bias.

TNT & TBS- Edited movies/programming along with tons of commercials.

MTV 2- No real music programming, just reality garbage.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on November 25, 2008, 10:00:17 PM
Recently, Comcast had just dropped C-SPAN 2 off the analog line-up in my area! I loved wating their unbiased political coverige! They still have the channel avaiable, but its now a digital-only channel and as a result, you would now have to rent a digital cable box and pay extra every month.  :angry:  Also, C-SPAN 2 personaly is one of the few cable channels that I think had not jumped the shark.
 
Not only that, but they also dropped ION, EWTN, National Geographic Channel, MTV2, Shop NBC off the analog line-up as well.  :furious:
 
I beleve they did this because they wanted more bandwith on their HD channels.  :unsure:
 
Theirs also another channel I forgot to mention: BigTen Network! I don't care about the NCAA! I rather stick with the pro sports!
 
I hope they don't drop TWC off the analog line-up (despite that isn't as good as it used to back in the '80s and '90s).
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on November 30, 2008, 11:11:15 AM
truTV- Limited court room coverage, with mostly reality crap (see a trend here?)
TruTV still shows a good amount of courtroom coverage during the week from 9AM-3PM, though still not nearly as much as when it used to be CourtTV. I still watch that channel a lot though. I like shows like Forensic Files, Most Shocking, Most Daring, Speeders, etc.

Have to agree with you about MTV 2. The channel was initially a channel where music videos were to be played 24/7, since MTV had already started showing reality shows. Now MTV 2 is basically the same as MTV.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 30, 2008, 11:44:57 AM
truTV- Limited court room coverage, with mostly reality crap (see a trend here?)
TruTV still shows a good amount of courtroom coverage during the week from 9AM-3PM, though still not nearly as much as when it used to be CourtTV. I still watch that channel a lot though. I like shows like Forensic Files, Most Shocking, Most Daring, Speeders, etc.

Have to agree with you about MTV 2. The channel was initially a channel where music videos were to be played 24/7, since MTV had already started showing reality shows. Now MTV 2 is basically the same as MTV.

I love those shows on TruTV too. When I can;t find anything else to watch, I can ALWAYS find something on TruTV.  :biggrin:

As for MTV2...I don't like it. I used to, but as you mentioned they've basically made it a carbon copy of MTV.  :yes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: crp88 on December 01, 2008, 03:22:05 PM
I guess I should've added that truTV isn't all bad. I actually like the courtroom coverage that they have weekdays from 9am-3pm as well as Speeders, Forensic Files and the investigation type shows. That said, I'm not a fan of all the high speed chase shows that they have.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on December 04, 2008, 12:24:48 AM
I've finally switched to DirecTV.  :dance:  Now, I don't have to stick with all this crappy service, channels, programming, and high rates.
 
The only thing that I will miss is our IntelliSTAR.
 
Anyways, if someone has already learned about the upcomming Digital TV transition, don't get cable! (expecialy if its Comcast)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Squizz on December 20, 2008, 12:45:52 PM
I'd rather have cable than a dish perfect for a giant's portion on my roof.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 20, 2008, 02:49:55 PM
Anyways, if someone has already learned about the upcomming Digital TV transition, don't get cable! (expecialy if its Comcast)
(Yeah, I just caught this.  Sue me.)

Comcast can't force you to switch to digital packages because of the DTV rules.  As a matter of fact, it's against the law for Comcast to profit (ie force you to pay more for DTV) from the transition.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: texasstooge on December 22, 2008, 06:38:21 PM
1. Cartoon Network. Reason why... First off: They stopped showing all of the "good cartoons." As a result, they "rolled on their own" (probliy in refrence to to their sister network, Boomerang). Second: They keep showing all of these stupid and really boring Japanese animes. I hate anime! Third: They are airing live-action movies that are not animated and movies thats shown on either basic cable/satellite/broadcast takes away all of the good stuff. I also hate commercials! See link below:
[url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cartoon-Network/Cartoon-Network-General-Comments/336?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url] ([url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cartoon-Network/Cartoon-Network-General-Comments/336?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url])

In addition, Cartoon Network reduced its programming schedule for the late night "Adult Swim" block. While a few of their shows ("Family Guy", "Home Movies", "Robot Chicken" and "Space Ghost Coast To Coast") are my favorites, there are other shows ("The Boondocks", "Lucy, Daughter Of The Devil") I like to see GONE!!!!!
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: texasstooge on December 22, 2008, 06:45:37 PM
If you like to see one proof of Cable TV (Charter in DFW) going downhill, see my topic "Charter Communications Suck (in Dallas/Fort Worth anyways) (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,1795.0.html)" topic.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 22, 2008, 10:11:54 PM
1. Cartoon Network. Reason why... First off: They stopped showing all of the "good cartoons." As a result, they "rolled on their own" (probliy in refrence to to their sister network, Boomerang). Second: They keep showing all of these stupid and really boring Japanese animes. I hate anime! Third: They are airing live-action movies that are not animated and movies thats shown on either basic cable/satellite/broadcast takes away all of the good stuff. I also hate commercials! See link below:
[url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cartoon-Network/Cartoon-Network-General-Comments/336?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url] ([url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Cartoon-Network/Cartoon-Network-General-Comments/336?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url])

In addition, Cartoon Network reduced its programming schedule for the late night "Adult Swim" block. While a few of their shows ("Family Guy", "Home Movies", "Robot Chicken" and "Space Ghost Coast To Coast") are my favorites, there are other shows ("The Boondocks", "Lucy, Daughter Of The Devil") I like to see GONE!!!!!

really? I actually the boondocks
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 22, 2008, 10:22:46 PM
I thought that Lucy, Daughter of the Devil and The Boondocks were cancelled anyway. I actually liked the first season of The Boondocks.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: texasstooge on December 23, 2008, 08:32:24 AM
truTV- Limited court room coverage, with mostly reality crap (see a trend here?)
TruTV still shows a good amount of courtroom coverage during the week from 9AM-3PM, though still not nearly as much as when it used to be CourtTV. I still watch that channel a lot though. I like shows like Forensic Files, Most Shocking, Most Daring, Speeders, etc.
And don't forget "World's Dumbest". :rofl2:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on December 23, 2008, 01:16:59 PM
In addition, Cartoon Network reduced its programming schedule for the late night "Adult Swim" block. While a few of their shows ("Family Guy", "Home Movies", "Robot Chicken" and "Space Ghost Coast To Coast") are my favorites, there are other shows ("The Boondocks", "Lucy, Daughter Of The Devil") I like to see GONE!!!!!
I haven't seen Home Movies and Space Ghost on CN in years. I used to watch them a lot. Do they still even show them, or on another channel?
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: texasstooge on December 23, 2008, 01:25:59 PM
In addition, Cartoon Network reduced its programming schedule for the late night "Adult Swim" block. While a few of their shows ("Family Guy", "Home Movies", "Robot Chicken" and "Space Ghost Coast To Coast") are my favorites, there are other shows ("The Boondocks", "Lucy, Daughter Of The Devil") I like to see GONE!!!!!
I haven't seen Home Movies and Space Ghost on CN in years. I used to watch them a lot. Do they still even show them, or on another channel?
"Space Ghost CTC" was shown on Cartoon Network a few months ago as part of Adult Swim's "Old School Fridays", but they replaced SGCTC's slot with the ever sacreligious "Lucy, Daughter of The Devil".

"Home Movies" is still on. The next showtimes on Cartoon Network/Adult Swim are: Wednesday-Friday 12:30AM and 4:00AM; next Tuesday-Thursday 4:30AM and Saturday 12:30AM & 4:00AM.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 09:13:21 PM
ange=500&chartOnly=true]
4. Tru TV (formaly Court TV). Reason why... Nancy Grace anchors (including Headline News), they have bad programming choices, and the overall theme changed. No one is watching 20+ year old reruns of COPS! I also think it was a bad idea to rename Court TV.
[url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Court-Tv/Court-Tv-General-Comments/429?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url] ([url]http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Court-Tv/Court-Tv-General-Comments/429?chartStart=0&chartRange=500&chartOnly=true[/url])


IMO, truTV has improved slightly the past several months. They've recently brought back law-enforcement shows they've haven't shown in months or even over a year, like LA Forensics, Till Death Do Us Part, SWAT USA, and the John Bunnell specials. Still, not nearly as good as it was during the Court TV days when they showed nine hours of courtroom coverage - that has since been cut down to six. Catherine Crier needs to be brought back too. Although I've never seen it live it looked like it was good based on what I saw on YouTube.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Gil on May 19, 2009, 10:33:56 PM
"Is cable TV going downhill?"

Yes - 500 channels, and nothing to watch.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 19, 2009, 10:35:48 PM
"Is cable TV going downhill?"

Yes - 500 channels, and nothing to watch.

 :yes: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 21, 2009, 11:20:33 AM
If only TWC lHDl and 100's of HD channels were available on every Cable Television then Cable would't be going downhill.

Thank the restrictions and not available in all areas bologna.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 22, 2009, 12:11:53 AM
I'd even argue that TV as a whole has been going downhill, not just cable TV by itself.  There are still some good shows, but the overall quality of programming seems to have fallen somewhat over the last twenty years.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 22, 2009, 05:29:18 PM
"Is cable TV going downhill?"

Yes - 500 channels, and nothing to watch.
Agreed. Since TWC started going downhill, TV is not good anymore.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on January 03, 2010, 03:55:51 PM
I just realized that truTV got rid of In Session, and instead is showing trial coverage from Headline News from 9AM-3PM, which isn't the same (more talk and less trial coverage). The last branch of the old Court TV is gone. :(

Now, God forbid if they cancel the only good show left, Forensic Files. That's the only show I watch now.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 03, 2010, 10:40:08 PM
Now that Home Improvement has been phased out completely, I'm worried I have started to lose interest in it. It used to be that Nick @ Nite was showing it several hours a nite. I remember it premiered on N@N back in September 2007. But once they added Malcolm in the Middle, the show was slowly phased out... 1, maybe 2 hours a nite. Then, they took it out. No problem, it was still airing between 12 and 2 in the afternoons on TBS. I even changed my lunch at school (switched a couple hours) so that I could watch Home Improvement. Then, TBS takes off an hour and only airs it from 1 to 2. After a bit, phased out completely.

Honestly, is a 4 hour marathon of Roseanne from 2 to 6 in the mornings really necessary? No one even likes that show!  :censored:

I'm giving serious thought to buying episodes of Home Improvement.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 03, 2010, 11:51:07 PM
Now that Home Improvement has been phased out completely, I'm worried I have started to lose interest in it. It used to be that Nick @ Nite was showing it several hours a nite. I remember it premiered on N@N back in September 2007. But once they added Malcolm in the Middle, the show was slowly phased out... 1, maybe 2 hours a nite. Then, they took it out. No problem, it was still airing between 12 and 2 in the afternoons on TBS. I even changed my lunch at school (switched a couple hours) so that I could watch Home Improvement. Then, TBS takes off an hour and only airs it from 1 to 2. After a bit, phased out completely.

Honestly, is a 4 hour marathon of Roseanne from 2 to 6 in the mornings really necessary? No one even likes that show!  :censored:

I'm giving serious thought to buying episodes of Home Improvement.

Popular syndicated shows like that are always going to jump from one network to another, I saw an ad last month that it's moving to TVLand. IDK what it's ratings were on Nick@Nite, but they must have not been too great at the timeslots it was airing or they just lost rights to air the show.

Also, the main thing that ruined the quality of television was the rise of Reality TV, one peron does one and suddenly everyone has to do one, it's just as bad as every celebrity trying to do a talk show. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WilliamEBrantley on January 04, 2010, 12:17:54 AM
I agree.
Several of my Favorite shows are no longer seen on TV either.
In most cases the ones on now are uninterestng to me.
I do not watch a lot of TV anymore.
I mostly read blogs and forums in the internet.
You can actually read more about the weather now on the internet than you will hear about on tv.
Weather reporting on the internet has soared very high in recent months.
A lot of it has gone digital.
Personally I prefer Manual Obs.
Here in West Tenn one tv station in Memphis, Tn. now uses stories from their viewer blogs and uses them over the air.
Talking on the home phone - land line - is almost a thing of the past as well. 
This is scary to some people.
I really like posting my Weather Data on the Internet including here on TWC Today.
Thanks for a great topic.     :wave:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on January 04, 2010, 06:30:13 AM
Popular syndicated shows like that are always going to jump from one network to another, I saw an ad last month that it's moving to TVLand. IDK what it's ratings were on Nick@Nite, but they must have not been too great at the timeslots it was airing or they just lost rights to air the show.

Also, the main thing that ruined the quality of television was the rise of Reality TV, one peron does one and suddenly everyone has to do one, it's just as bad as every celebrity trying to do a talk show. :rolleyes:
They're moving Home Improvement to TV Land? :wacko:

No one I know (in person or over the internet) likes reality TV, so I'm dead lost how ratings are showing that reality is popular.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TWCToday on January 05, 2010, 12:42:06 AM
With such classic TV shows I just end up buying them on DVD or downloading them. Ive given up on reruns of old shows.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on January 05, 2010, 06:09:51 PM
The only channel I watch more than TWC now is Nickeloden.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on March 01, 2010, 06:37:34 AM
Well, Nick@Nite has improved somewhat. They've brought back The Cosby Show (first time I've seen it there since like 2006), and they're showing more of Family Matters than they have in months! Now all they need to bring back is Home Improvement (it does NOT belong on TV Land) and ditch Glenn Martin and Everybody Hates Chris...
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twcclassics on March 01, 2010, 11:01:10 AM
Honestly, is a 4 hour marathon of Roseanne from 2 to 6 in the mornings really necessary? No one even likes that show!  :censored:
Hey, I do! And obviously others do, otherwise they wouldn't show it.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 01, 2010, 05:03:20 PM
The lineup has changed countless times in the past year. I must say I am extremely pleased that Nick at Nite brought back Family Matters. I love that show, and it is hilarious. They now apparently show it from 3 to 5 in the mornings, and again during WUWA from 6 to 7 in the AM EST. They also brought back the Cosby show, which airs in the 5 ET hour. Not as funny as Family Matters, but not a bad show. AFAIK, they alternate between Glenn Martin ( :footinmouth: ) and MIM at 8, with MIM thru 9. Then Everybody Hates Chris, then George Lopez (ftw :biggrin: ) and then the Nanny. Outside of Glenn Martin, Malcolm in the Middle, and the Nanny, I like the lineup at the moment. Still not happy I haven't seen Home Improvement since early October.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on March 01, 2010, 09:08:57 PM
Aaron, Home Improvement airs on TV Land now weeknights at 9. I don't get why they're showing that show when shows older than HI (Cosby Show, Family Matters, and the Nanny) are airing on Nick.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 01, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Aaron, Home Improvement airs on TV Land now weeknights at 9. I don't get why they're showing that show when shows older than HI (Cosby Show, Family Matters, and the Nanny) are airing on Nick.
Thanks for letting me know that. I have been needing to see the show again and it's bittersweet :P
Actually, Family Matters is the same age as Home Improvement, and actually had the same season years (1991-1999, afaik)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on March 01, 2010, 09:42:24 PM
The lineup has changed countless times in the past year. I must say I am extremely pleased that Nick at Nite brought back Family Matters. I love that show, and it is hilarious. They now apparently show it from 3 to 5 in the mornings, and again during WUWA from 6 to 7 in the AM EST. They also brought back the Cosby show, which airs in the 5 ET hour. Not as funny as Family Matters, but not a bad show. AFAIK, they alternate between Glenn Martin ( :footinmouth: ) and MIM at 8, with MIM thru 9. Then Everybody Hates Chris, then George Lopez (ftw :biggrin: ) and then the Nanny. Outside of Glenn Martin, Malcolm in the Middle, and the Nanny, I like the lineup at the moment. Still not happy I haven't seen Home Improvement since early October.
I don't mind the Nanny, and MITM is pretty cool. But I agree about Glenn Martin, that show is a joke.  :hammer: I just recently started watching Family Matters at 6 and find it very hilarious. :yes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 01, 2010, 09:45:17 PM
The lineup has changed countless times in the past year. I must say I am extremely pleased that Nick at Nite brought back Family Matters. I love that show, and it is hilarious. They now apparently show it from 3 to 5 in the mornings, and again during WUWA from 6 to 7 in the AM EST. They also brought back the Cosby show, which airs in the 5 ET hour. Not as funny as Family Matters, but not a bad show. AFAIK, they alternate between Glenn Martin ( :footinmouth: ) and MIM at 8, with MIM thru 9. Then Everybody Hates Chris, then George Lopez (ftw :biggrin: ) and then the Nanny. Outside of Glenn Martin, Malcolm in the Middle, and the Nanny, I like the lineup at the moment. Still not happy I haven't seen Home Improvement since early October.
I don't mind the Nanny, and MITM is pretty cool. But I agree about Glenn Martin, that show is a joke.  :hammer: I just recently started watching Family Matters at 6 and find it very hilarious. :yes:
Family Matters and Malcolm are some of my favourite shows. I used to watch them on FOX but never cared for them on Nick @ nite. I also don't like Glenn Martin. That show makes no sense
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 01, 2010, 10:13:19 PM
Idk why I said I didn't care for the Nanny... I love how Niles and CC interact :P
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 02, 2010, 06:44:03 AM
Aaron, Home Improvement airs on TV Land now weeknights at 9. I don't get why they're showing that show when shows older than HI (Cosby Show, Family Matters, and the Nanny) are airing on Nick.
Thanks for letting me know that. I have been needing to see the show again and it's bittersweet :P
Actually, Family Matters is the same age as Home Improvement, and actually had the same season years (1991-1999, afaik)
Family Matters aired from 1989-1998, Home Improvement was from 1991-1999
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twcclassics on March 02, 2010, 10:46:45 AM
Nick At Nite's current lineup is terrible IMO. There's not a single show that's even worth watching when nothing else is on, let alone every night.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 02, 2010, 04:04:12 PM
Nick At Nite's current lineup is terrible IMO. There's not a single show that's even worth watching when nothing else is on, let alone every night.

Agreed. Whose idea was it that George Lopez and Malcolm in the Middle belong on Nick at Nite in the first place? The shows aren't old or classic in any way, at least as far as I'm concerned...even Home Improvement was more fitting...at least it was from a different decade! LOL.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TWCToday on March 03, 2010, 11:40:01 PM
I am so sick of George Lopez. I never thought that show was funny
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: XL FANIC on June 11, 2011, 10:59:47 AM
Read something online that Analog Cable will be supported until 2012
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: beanboy89 on June 11, 2011, 02:39:47 PM
Read something online that Analog Cable will be supported until 2012
Analog cable will be supported for however long cable companies want it to be. There is no set date by the FCC or any other regulatory agencies for it's discontinuation.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twci89 on June 30, 2011, 04:26:47 PM
Here's some more noticeble cable channels that I think jumped the shark:

18. Spike TV (formaly TNN -- The Nashville Network). Reason why: too much UFC, TNA, and all that other wresleling garbage! Its just as bad as the WWE! So much for the first ever "Men's network!"

19. QVC. Reason why: the internet ruining home shopping on TV. Back in the '80s and '90s (before the internet), home shopping channels like QVC and HSN was one of the best places to order items. Even back then, it was fun to watch too. Even I used to watch QVC alot back in the late '90s, early '00s.  :rolleyes:

20. HSN. Reason why: same thing as QVC. Even I use to watch HSN alot too back when I was little.

21. BET. Reason why: raceism. African Americans needs to stop listing to that rap music and listen to the music on TWC!  I even bet famous Afican Americans (like Barack Obama and Jessie Jackson) are tuning out BET too.

22. AMC. Reason why: Airing post-2000 movies (2000-present day). So whats next for American Movie Classics? Recently released movies from earlier this year? Plus watching movies on basic cable sucks, because its edited and they would always would have those annoying commercial breaks durring the movie!

23. ABC Family (formaly CBN Family, The Family Channel, Fox Family). Reason why: when Disney bought out the station after when Fox sold it. Like the Disney Channel, alot of the programming from ABC Family sucks these days.

24. Lifetime. Reason why: "Television for women." Don't expect to see Lifetime to be the the new home for the Super Bowl. :whistling:

25. Bravo. Reason why: Another chick channel. No affence of course.

26. Food Network. Reason why: the obeasity epicdemic. Stop eating making all of those greasy foods!

27. Disney Channel/Toon Disney. Reason why: day one. I hate Disney! They are an monopoly! :furious: Plus they even took all of the good cartoons away from both The CW and Cartoon Network. That's Warner Brothers property! Disney is supose to hate Warner Brothers (hence Daffy Duck and Donald Duck -- othough no releation).

28. TLC. Reason why: no more education shows. Don't ever they know what "E/I" is?  :wacko:

29. FSN. Reason why: when old man Rupert Merdoct just had to buyout every regional sports network. He even owns FSN Midwest which is our regional FSN affiliate! Fox doesn't know sports!

30. Oxygen. Reason why: Yet another chick channel. NBC Universial should of not bought out the channel and should of not aired the Olympics on it. I think Disney would of been a better choice because, they aready "F"ed-up ABC. They already ruined one of the major network televison stations and started to air more chick shows on ABC (like Desperite Housewifes and Super Nanny). I hope NBC woun't ruin TWC!

31. Golf Channel. Reason why: day one. I rather watch pro football or pro baseball! P.S. Go St. Louis Cardinals! P.P.S. Also, go Rams!  :biggrin:

32. SoapNet. Reason why: yet another chick channel. I even herd that they are rarely airing any recent soap oprea episodes from the network television stations (like As The World Turns and Day of Our Lives).

33. Style. Reason why: day one. Plus its not another channel that appeals me.

So there you have it. Even Comcast just had to add fuel to the fire. All of us are sick and tired of watching crappy shows on a good channel or even crappy channels that no one is watching. And lets not forget a whopping $70.00 a month just for basic cable!  :clap:

The only channels that I could name that haven't jumped the shark are:
  • MSNBC
  • C-SPAN
  • C-SPAN 2
  • C-SPAN 3
  • NFL Network
  • Boomerang
  • All premium cable channels (like HBO and Cinemax)
Let's hope they continue staying strong.  ;)
  What about Turner classic movies? They have never jumped the shark!
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on June 30, 2011, 05:05:49 PM
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What about Turner classic movies? They have never jumped the shark!
I almost forgot about TCM. Thanks for reminding me.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Trevor on July 01, 2011, 01:31:13 PM
IMO, each generation likes their generation of TV.

Let's use the Disney Channel as an example. People who are teenagers now think that Disney Channel has gone downhill (myself included) because they added shows like 'Shake it Up' and 'Hannah Montana', because they grew up watching 'Phil of the Future' and 'Boy Meets World'. While the current generation of Disney viewers love these shows, and will probably end up hating the next generation of Disney shows.


That's just my (http://thmg.photobucket.com/albums/v720/MaMaaJodi/th_2_cents.png) worth.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on July 01, 2011, 02:27:13 PM
IMO, each generation likes their generation of TV.

Let's use the Disney Channel as an example. People who are teenagers now think that Disney Channel has gone downhill (myself included) because they added shows like 'Shake it Up' and 'Hannah Montana', because they grew up watching 'Phil of the Future' and 'Boy Meets World'. While the current generation of Disney viewers love these shows, and will probably end up hating the next generation of Disney shows.


That's just my ([url]http://thmg.photobucket.com/albums/v720/MaMaaJodi/th_2_cents.png[/url]) worth.


Yeah, I remember the days when Disney actually showed Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. I also grew up on Ducktales, Chip n' Dale, Darkwing Duck, Goof Troop, etc. They also aired cool sitcoms (albeit reruns) like Sister Sister and Smart Guy. Now all you see is Hannah Montana and Suite Life. :rolleyes: I don't watch that channel at all, partly because I'm older, and partly because most of the shows don't interest me much. The last Disney show I watched was That's So Raven, which they don't even show anymore, except on Saturday mornings on ABC.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 01, 2011, 11:24:11 PM
The last Disney show I watched was That's So Raven, which they don't even show anymore, except on Saturday mornings on ABC.

That's So Raven was a good show. That was about the only thing I used to watch on Disney Channel. Too bad they had to get rid of it. :(

I don't even know what they show on Disney Channel now (and really don't care)...
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 01, 2011, 11:42:06 PM
Sadly, the Disney channel thing is true. My 5 year old niece LOVES that channel to death. There's not one show on there she doesn't watch and doesn't know word from word when she sees it and her craze for Hannah Montana was even worse. If there's any upside, I've noticed lately she watches Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon more and she's still a big Tom and Jerry fan like I was.  :)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: texasstooge on July 04, 2011, 01:17:47 AM
I loved the Disney Channel back then when they were showing some classic cartoons. It has been mutilated by today's teen/tween shows since then. Nickelodeon was heading the same direction.

I'm not complaining much about ABC Family's schedule, because they air "America's Funniest Home Videos" and "Whose Line Is It Anyway?". By the time they show their originals, I usually watch something else in Primetime.

Cartoon Network promised they'd stay on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days, forever and ever and ever and ever and ever...until the end of time. THEY LIED!!! Or was the introduction of the Adult Swim block the end of time? I'm guessing they're trying to get the parents to put the kids to bed. Not that I was complaining back then, because I found a few more favorites on that particular block.

TV Land has shifted to a more current-based programming on 50% of their schedule. 'Nuff said.

Animal Planet has shifted direction to attracted a much older audience 18 and older with some of their much suspenseful programming. While Animal Planet is still within their prime format, there's one show on their schedule I could do without, and that's "I Shouldn't Be Alive". It's a show about survival and does not talk about animals, let alone involve them. They should've kept it on Discovery Channel or at least move it to TLC. Next thing you know, they're gonna air "Cheaters" on there as well. (Not really, but "Cheaters" on Animal Planet? NO WAY!!! :thumbdown: )

I think the main reason for The Weather Channel, MTV, VH1, and CMT to go their current directions is because of the internet. But not everybody can afford the internet, let alone dial-up. Many have to use their local Public Library's internet system to do all that, but they have a limited window of 2 hours max...maybe a little more if nobody's waiting on/or reserved a computer (at least that's how my local library's system works).

Although truTV shows some programs that are reenactments to reality (like "Operation Repo" and a few others), the real reality shows on there I liked are "World's Dumbest" and "Disorder in the Court".

Bravo went from Arts & Performances to....the way MTV's going. I shouldn't say too much about it, because I have a friend who still likes Bravo even to this very day.

AMC was one of my favorite channels when they were airing classic movies and "The Three Stooges". Now they're airing movies, mostly from 2000 on-wards, original shows, and since last year, Paid Programming. It's just not the same!! Turner Classic Movies (TCM) is the only one holding true to its format, and I hope it stays that way.

Sci-Fi...now Syfy - Now I know they're trying to expand their horizons, but adding wrestling on there just ain't it. Not to mention some of the corniest current made-for-TV monster movies I've ever seen (via "The Soup").

I never really cared much for the C-SPANs, HSN, QVC, ShopNBC, Oxygen, The Golf Channel, and Lifetime.

All in all, cable TV has gone downhill for half the time, but sometimes, they may air a great TV show in my favor. There's also TV online if we want to go that direction. We also have cable companies like Time Warner Cable and Comcast going through with their digital migration processes. Once analog cable is wiped off completely, hotels that run TV service through cable TV may have no choice but to install digital cable converters in each room or switch back to using DBS (Direct Broadcast Satellite) as their source. We are often reminded by the said cable companies that there are more choices, but we have to pay out the wazoo for them.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 04, 2011, 09:26:21 AM
I loved the Disney Channel back then when they were showing some classic cartoons. It has been mutilated by today's teen/tween shows since then. Nickelodeon was heading the same direction.

I'm not complaining much about ABC Family's schedule, because they air "America's Funniest Home Videos" and "Whose Line Is It Anyway?". By the time they show their originals, I usually watch something else in Primetime.

Cartoon Network promised they'd stay on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days, forever and ever and ever and ever and ever...until the end of time. THEY LIED!!! Or was the introduction of the Adult Swim block the end of time? I'm guessing they're trying to get the parents to put the kids to bed. Not that I was complaining back then, because I found a few more favorites on that particular block.

TV Land has shifted to a more current-based programming on 50% of their schedule. 'Nuff said.

Animal Planet has shifted direction to attracted a much older audience 18 and older with some of their much suspenseful programming. While Animal Planet is still within their prime format, there's one show on their schedule I could do without, and that's "I Shouldn't Be Alive". It's a show about survival and does not talk about animals, let alone involve them. They should've kept it on Discovery Channel or at least move it to TLC. Next thing you know, they're gonna air "Cheaters" on there as well. (Not really, but "Cheaters" on Animal Planet? NO WAY!!! :thumbdown: )

I think the main reason for The Weather Channel, MTV, VH1, and CMT to go their current directions is because of the internet. But not everybody can afford the internet, let alone dial-up. Many have to use their local Public Library's internet system to do all that, but they have a limited window of 2 hours max...maybe a little more if nobody's waiting on/or reserved a computer (at least that's how my local library's system works).

Although truTV shows some programs that are reenactments to reality (like "Operation Repo" and a few others), the real reality shows on there I liked are "World's Dumbest" and "Disorder in the Court".

Bravo went from Arts & Performances to....the way MTV's going. I shouldn't say too much about it, because I have a friend who still likes Bravo even to this very day.

AMC was one of my favorite channels when they were airing classic movies and "The Three Stooges". Now they're airing movies, mostly from 2000 on-wards, original shows, and since last year, Paid Programming. It's just not the same!! Turner Classic Movies (TCM) is the only one holding true to its format, and I hope it stays that way.

Sci-Fi...now Syfy - Now I know they're trying to expand their horizons, but adding wrestling on there just ain't it. Not to mention some of the corniest current made-for-TV monster movies I've ever seen (via "The Soup").

I never really cared much for the C-SPANs, HSN, QVC, ShopNBC, Oxygen, The Golf Channel, and Lifetime.

All in all, cable TV has gone downhill for half the time, but sometimes, they may air a great TV show in my favor. There's also TV online if we want to go that direction. We also have cable companies like Time Warner Cable and Comcast going through with their digital migration processes. Once analog cable is wiped off completely, hotels that run TV service through cable TV may have no choice but to install digital cable converters in each room or switch back to using DBS (Direct Broadcast Satellite) as their source. We are often reminded by the said cable companies that there are more choices, but we have to pay out the wazoo for them.

That's occurring right now with Comcast down here. The TV in my grandma's room is the only one w/o a cable box so she has to get one to view the channels she had.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Jonathon on July 04, 2011, 04:16:37 PM
I loved the Disney Channel back then when they were showing some classic cartoons. It has been mutilated by today's teen/tween shows since then. Nickelodeon was heading the same direction.

I'm not complaining much about ABC Family's schedule, because they air "America's Funniest Home Videos" and "Whose Line Is It Anyway?". By the time they show their originals, I usually watch something else in Primetime.

Cartoon Network promised they'd stay on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days, forever and ever and ever and ever and ever...until the end of time. THEY LIED!!! Or was the introduction of the Adult Swim block the end of time? I'm guessing they're trying to get the parents to put the kids to bed. Not that I was complaining back then, because I found a few more favorites on that particular block.

TV Land has shifted to a more current-based programming on 50% of their schedule. 'Nuff said.

Animal Planet has shifted direction to attracted a much older audience 18 and older with some of their much suspenseful programming. While Animal Planet is still within their prime format, there's one show on their schedule I could do without, and that's "I Shouldn't Be Alive". It's a show about survival and does not talk about animals, let alone involve them. They should've kept it on Discovery Channel or at least move it to TLC. Next thing you know, they're gonna air "Cheaters" on there as well. (Not really, but "Cheaters" on Animal Planet? NO WAY!!! :thumbdown: )

I think the main reason for The Weather Channel, MTV, VH1, and CMT to go their current directions is because of the internet. But not everybody can afford the internet, let alone dial-up. Many have to use their local Public Library's internet system to do all that, but they have a limited window of 2 hours max...maybe a little more if nobody's waiting on/or reserved a computer (at least that's how my local library's system works).

Although truTV shows some programs that are reenactments to reality (like "Operation Repo" and a few others), the real reality shows on there I liked are "World's Dumbest" and "Disorder in the Court".

Bravo went from Arts & Performances to....the way MTV's going. I shouldn't say too much about it, because I have a friend who still likes Bravo even to this very day.

AMC was one of my favorite channels when they were airing classic movies and "The Three Stooges". Now they're airing movies, mostly from 2000 on-wards, original shows, and since last year, Paid Programming. It's just not the same!! Turner Classic Movies (TCM) is the only one holding true to its format, and I hope it stays that way.

Sci-Fi...now Syfy - Now I know they're trying to expand their horizons, but adding wrestling on there just ain't it. Not to mention some of the corniest current made-for-TV monster movies I've ever seen (via "The Soup").

I never really cared much for the C-SPANs, HSN, QVC, ShopNBC, Oxygen, The Golf Channel, and Lifetime.

All in all, cable TV has gone downhill for half the time, but sometimes, they may air a great TV show in my favor. There's also TV online if we want to go that direction. We also have cable companies like Time Warner Cable and Comcast going through with their digital migration processes. Once analog cable is wiped off completely, hotels that run TV service through cable TV may have no choice but to install digital cable converters in each room or switch back to using DBS (Direct Broadcast Satellite) as their source. We are often reminded by the said cable companies that there are more choices, but we have to pay out the wazoo for them.
I have to agree with you on that. :yes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on July 05, 2011, 01:15:30 PM
truTV/CourtTV was one of my favorite channels! Then they got rid of all their law enforcement related shows and added in this reality crap. Even their weekday court coverage isn't the same as it used to be, showing less of raw court coverage and more talk. Forensic Files are the only good true court show left on that channel, and they only show that late at night. <_< Although Operation Repo and Bait Car is ok too.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: texasstooge on July 05, 2011, 03:18:01 PM
truTV/CourtTV was one of my favorite channels! Then they got rid of all their law enforcement related shows and added in this reality crap. Even their weekday court coverage isn't the same as it used to be, showing less of raw court coverage and more talk. Forensic Files are the only good true court show left on that channel, and they only show that late at night. <_< Although Operation Repo and Bait Car is ok too.
I like "Bait Car" as well as "Forensic Files". But "World's Dumbest" is what kept me watching...until Time Willy-Nilly...I mean...Time Warner Cable took it off the analog lineup. At least truTV has their episodes online.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: texasstooge on July 05, 2011, 03:29:48 PM
One other network I forgot to mention...GSN (Game Show Network)

While most of their programming is focused on game shows, one show that was just added to their lineup is "Drew Carey's Improv-A-Ganza". Not that I'm complaining, I always love a great improv show, but I think it should be on either ABC Family as a counterpart to "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" (my other favorite) or Comedy Central.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 05, 2011, 03:36:46 PM
I wouldn't say Cable TV as a whole has gone downhill (I love Cablevision and their service), but the channels they carry? Yeah.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on July 05, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
I like "Bait Car" as well as "Forensic Files". But "World's Dumbest" is what kept me watching...until Time Willy-Nilly...I mean...Time Warner Cable took it off the analog lineup. At least truTV has their episodes online.
Comcast has it on basic in PA, but in NJ we need digital preferred or higher to get it. Makes no friggin sense, because Comcast is Comcast. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: beanboy89 on July 05, 2011, 10:17:39 PM
I like "Bait Car" as well as "Forensic Files". But "World's Dumbest" is what kept me watching...until Time Willy-Nilly...I mean...Time Warner Cable took it off the analog lineup. At least truTV has their episodes online.
Comcast has it on basic in PA, but in NJ we need digital preferred or higher to get it. Makes no friggin sense, because Comcast is Comcast. :rolleyes:
I've never understood that, either. I don't know why every Comcast system has different channel lineups and even totally different channels on neighboring systems.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 06, 2011, 11:17:20 AM
I like "Bait Car" as well as "Forensic Files". But "World's Dumbest" is what kept me watching...until Time Willy-Nilly...I mean...Time Warner Cable took it off the analog lineup. At least truTV has their episodes online.
Comcast has it on basic in PA, but in NJ we need digital preferred or higher to get it. Makes no friggin sense, because Comcast is Comcast. :rolleyes:
I've never understood that, either. I don't know why every Comcast system has different channel lineups and even totally different channels on neighboring systems.
The second phase of "World of More" digital migration is channel unification....locals from 2-99, the rest grouped in appropriate 100s.  HD is 1XXX, where XXX is the SD number (see my TWC...SD could be channel 103, HD at 1103).

I think a lot of the "channels on different tiers" comes from all the purchases they've made over the years.  It wouldn't surprise me if when the channel unification happens, tier rearragement happens as well.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on July 07, 2011, 08:20:58 PM
I like "Bait Car" as well as "Forensic Files". But "World's Dumbest" is what kept me watching...until Time Willy-Nilly...I mean...Time Warner Cable took it off the analog lineup. At least truTV has their episodes online.
Comcast has it on basic in PA, but in NJ we need digital preferred or higher to get it. Makes no friggin sense, because Comcast is Comcast. :rolleyes:
I've never understood that, either. I don't know why every Comcast system has different channel lineups and even totally different channels on neighboring systems.
Most cable systems (even if it is owned by the same company) have differnent channel line-ups in each media market. For example, when I was visiting Panama City Beach, FL last summer, they have Comcast as their only local cable provider. Here in Peoria, we have it too which is also our area's only cable provider as well. While I was visiting PC Beach, I remembered that TWC was on channel 40 in their area, while here in Peoria, we have it on channel 2. So even though its the same network that is also being provided by the same cable company, the local channel line-ups differ in each market. I guess its the staff that works at whichever local cable headend that disides on their channel line-ups and programing packages.
 
What also bothers me is that some cable systems also disides on whichever channel they want to carry. It also bothers me if they carry the channel, they may not even carry the HD feed of the same network. I know the Comcast here in Peoria doesn't have TWC HD, yet they don't even have Weatherscan either! At least PC Beach has both TWC SD and Weatherscan (but I'm not sure if they even have TWC HD since I was only able to tune in to the SD analog cable channels).
 
Another thing that bothers me about cable here is that some systems even mismatch the local over-the-air broadcast channel numbers. For example, our NBC affiliate, WEEK has their over the air channel number on 25-1, while on our Comcast system, their channel number is 10 (for SD analog) and their digital HD channel is 906, which is a mismatched and confusing. What also bothers me about some over-the-air stations here is that the digital RF number mismatches with the virtual number. For example, our FOX affiliate, WYZZ has their OTA number on 28-1, but yet, it lists the virtual number (or PSIP) as 43-1 (which is based off from its former analog UHF over-the-air number). Yet it gets even more confusing, the same station here on the Peoria area Comcast has it on digital channel 910, while its analog SD channel number is 6. I hate it when cable companies mismatch the channel numbers for over-the-air stations! Yet, I also hate it when brodcast stations mismatches their phyiscal digital RF number with the virtual channel number too!
 
Either way, the Comcast in Peoria as well as ALL of our local OTA stations stinks! I which we can get the NYC and LA locals instead. I always hate the idea of local affiliated stations anyways. All of my locals would of been better off as independents.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Austin M. on July 20, 2011, 10:13:46 PM
Cable TV is poor considering that it is a subscription-type service that airs over 10 minutes of usually-pointless commercials during one-30min program. Infomercials that have their own timeslot? Ridiculous. Billy Mays could get a vacuum cleaner that will work for a few weeks before I have to buy a new one for the same expensive cost across to me in 30sec where they do in 30min, just going on and on about how "great" it is and all of its  :censored: features.

Specific channels? I can't say much about movie channels, except that when they say "limited commercial interruption," they're full of total bull :censored:.
News channels are full of biased politics and other news, fearmongering too. HLN has gone on about the Casey Anthony trial for several years, Nancy specifically.
Nick and Disney have turned into a load of crap-teen-reality shows. Cartoon Network carries the only two toons I've ever cared for, that I found funniest: Tom & Jerry and the Garfield Show. Garfield is being ripped apart limb by limb.
I'm going to bed now, I'll add more soon.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on July 21, 2011, 12:11:16 AM
Nick and Disney have turned into a load of crap-teen-reality shows. Cartoon Network carries the only two toons I've ever cared for, that I found funniest: Tom & Jerry and the Garfield Show. Garfield is being ripped apart limb by limb.
I'm going to bed now, I'll add more soon.

Thank goodness Teen Nick is bringing back a block of Nickelodeon classics like Doug, All That, Kenan and Kel, Clarissa Explains It All, etc. on Monday. As you said Nickelodeon and Disney hardly show cartoons anymore. Just a bunch of teeny bopper sitcoms/reality shows. Plus, I tried once to watch the Garfield Show.  :thumbdown: It is nothing like Garfield and Friends.  :no:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 21, 2011, 12:29:48 AM
Nick and Disney have turned into a load of crap-teen-reality shows. Cartoon Network carries the only two toons I've ever cared for, that I found funniest: Tom & Jerry and the Garfield Show. Garfield is being ripped apart limb by limb.
I'm going to bed now, I'll add more soon.

Thank goodness Teen Nick is bringing back a block of Nickelodeon classics like Doug, All That, Kenan and Kel, Clarissa Explains It All, etc. on Monday. As you said Nickelodeon and Disney hardly show cartoons anymore. Just a bunch of teeny bopper sitcoms/reality shows. Plus, I tried once to watch the Garfield Show.  :thumbdown: It is nothing like Garfield and Friends.  :no:

I tried once to watch the new version of Scooby-Doo just for the heck of it and really sucks. I don't ever recall there being a love connection between Shaggy and Velma in the original or any remakes after that unless it went way over my head. There's no connection between it and the original except the clothes they wear and the fact that they're in "high school".  I don't get why they feel the need to ruin a lot of these cartoons with remakes that completely rewrite the history of the original.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Austin M. on July 22, 2011, 10:53:00 AM
Nick and Disney have turned into a load of crap-teen-reality shows. Cartoon Network carries the only two toons I've ever cared for, that I found funniest: Tom & Jerry and the Garfield Show. Garfield is being ripped apart limb by limb.
I'm going to bed now, I'll add more soon.

Thank goodness Teen Nick is bringing back a block of Nickelodeon classics like Doug, All That, Kenan and Kel, Clarissa Explains It All, etc. on Monday. As you said Nickelodeon and Disney hardly show cartoons anymore. Just a bunch of teeny bopper sitcoms/reality shows. Plus, I tried once to watch the Garfield Show.  :thumbdown: It is nothing like Garfield and Friends.  :no:

I would watch Teen Nick (I LOVE "All That," but my crappy, hoboken cable company doesn't carry it (except with the $50 additional for digital that brings only 15 more channels.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Eric on July 22, 2011, 11:50:10 AM
Does anybody remember "Roundhouse" from when they introduced SNICK back in 1992?  I somehow remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when that show first aired.  :)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on July 22, 2011, 11:17:30 PM
Does anybody remember "Roundhouse" from when they introduced SNICK back in 1992?  I somehow remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when that show first aired.  :)
I remember that show!  :yes:  In fact, my cable system used to have TWC right next to Nickelodeon on channel 36. To this day (even though our cable system went all digital since March), Nick is still on 35 in my area, but TWC moved to channel 2 in 2003. Bravo took over TWC's former channel number location on 36. I liked it better when it was side-by-side and made it easier to flip back and forth between channels (since I didn't know how to use a remote control keypad until when I was about seven or so). So that way, its family shows and cartoons on one channel and a informational-based weather station (or what was at the time anyway) on a another without having to flip through a bunch of other channels that I either don't watch or rarely watch or even refuse to watch just to find TWC. Of course, I used to do that all the time just so I could find the Prevue Channel whenever when I wanted to see what's on TV.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on July 25, 2011, 07:45:21 PM
I am old enough to remember when Nickelodeon had Weinerville, Figure It Out, AAH! Real Monsters, Gullah Gullah Island, Little Bear, Pete and Pete, Are You Afraid of the Dark. Who can forget Stick Stickly? They also showed cartoons like Muppet Babies, Inspector Gadget, Garfield and Friends, and Alvin and the Chipmunks (all of which I loved to watch). My personal favorite Nick shows were Doug, Rugrats, Angry Beavers, Gullah Gullah Island, Kenan and Kel, Cousin Skeeter, the Amanda Show, and All That. I like Spongebob best up until the movie came out. From that point on, Spongebob got new writers and became just plain stupid, and I have very sparingly watched it over the last few years. Nickelodeon was such a great network back in the 1990s and early 2000s. I'll even take shows like Taina over iCarly and Victorious.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Eric on July 25, 2011, 07:51:17 PM
I am old enough to remember when Nickelodeon had Weinerville, Figure It Out, AAH! Real Monsters, Gullah Gullah Island, Little Bear, Pete and Pete, Are You Afraid of the Dark. Who can forget Stick Stickly?

I'm old enough to remember when "Pinwheel" was the only show on Nickelodeon for hours on end.  And when it wasn't "Pinwheel," chances are it was "Sharon, Lois, and Bram's Elephant Show."  Skiddle-a-dink-a-rinky-dink, skiddle-a-rinky-do...
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Austin M. on July 26, 2011, 08:29:52 AM
I remember watching Face on Nick Jr., as well as Little Bear, Rugrats, Dora the Explorer... Its been so long I can't really remember anything else. I loved being a kid, if I could go back now (realizing by the end of the decade I'll be around 23y/o) I would.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on August 02, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
I remember watching Face on Nick Jr., as well as Little Bear, Rugrats, Dora the Explorer... Its been so long I can't really remember anything else. I loved being a kid, if I could go back now (realizing by the end of the decade I'll be around 23y/o) I would.

It has been nostalgic watching Teen Nick and seeing Doug, All That, and Kenan and Kel. Hopefully, they'll show Angry Beavers and Hey Arnold in the coming weeks.  ;)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 02, 2011, 09:14:07 PM
I saw quite a few of those shows growing up, but I was more fascinated in the games shows on Nickelodeon as a kid.  How many of you remember Think Fast, Finders Keepers, Double Dare, Get the Picture, Legends of the Hidden Temple, and Figure it Out?  Yes, I saw all of these shows growing up. ;)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Austin M. on August 05, 2011, 10:06:14 PM
I saw quite a few of those shows growing up, but I was more fascinated in the games shows on Nickelodeon as a kid.  How many of you remember Think Fast, Finders Keepers, Double Dare, Get the Picture, Legends of the Hidden Temple, and Figure it Out?  Yes, I saw all of these shows growing up. ;)

Yes, I remember repeats of everything except Think Fast when Nick GaS was still on the air. I hated but loved Legends, Figure it Out was great... the modern-day BrainSurge (which, IMO, stinks).
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on August 06, 2011, 03:28:01 PM
I remember seeing some of the game shows on Nick's GAS block back in the early 2000's :yes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on March 20, 2012, 11:02:40 AM
Has anyone noticed how truTV now shows NCAA tournaments? How the hell does that resemble the court system? Worst of all they broadcast it during their normal live trial coverage hours.

Also, why is it that TV channels show marathons of one program? It seems every channel they just spend a whole day playing one TV show rather than sticking with a schedule. It's really ridiculous.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 20, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
Has anyone noticed how truTV now shows NCAA tournaments? How the hell does that resemble the court system? Worst of all they broadcast it during their normal live trial coverage hours.
When it relaunched as truTV in 2008, it reached out to more reality shows along with court trial coverage.  So, you're late in seeing that it already has changed its approach.  With regards to the NCAA tournament, CBS and Turner Sports signed a 14-year contract in 2010 to carry all tournament games in their entirety.  Because there can be up to four games playing at once in the first round, the networks of CBS, TNT, TBS, and truTV are following this contract.  It actually allows truTV to get some exposure from people who would rarely see it and perhaps entice them to keep watching it after the tournament is over.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Lightning on March 21, 2012, 06:56:01 PM
I believe it has. I remember when TBS aired old tv shows like The Andy Griffith Show, The Brady Bunch, Gilligan's Island, Happy Days, Sanford and Son, Leave it to Beaver and other old shows. Then, TVLand had those shows, not even TVLand has all those shows anymore.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on March 21, 2012, 08:17:41 PM
I believe it has. I remember when TBS aired old tv shows like The Andy Griffith Show, The Brady Bunch, Gilligan's Island, Happy Days, Sanford and Son, Leave it to Beaver and other old shows. Then, TVLand had those shows, not even TVLand has all those shows anymore.

Gilligan's Island was my show when I was a kid! I don't think I have seen an episode in over 10 years. TBS also used to show the Cosby Show, and cartoons like the Jetsons, Captain Planet (though I never really watched that), and Garfield and Friends back in the day.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on April 01, 2012, 02:55:44 PM
I miss the 90s when Nick showed cartoons like Inspector Gadget, Muppet Babies, Alvin and the Chipmunks, and Garfield and Friends. Garfield and Friends also used to come on channel 44 down here every weekday morning at 6am for a while until the mid 2000s, I think. I remember waking up regularly and watching that.  :D Also 44 used to have the Disney Afternoons with Quack Pack, Goof Troop, Disney's Doug, Darkwing Duck, etc. At least Boomerang shows some classics, though the only cartoon I look at is the Jetsons.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Zach on April 01, 2012, 03:11:13 PM
Garfield and Friends also used to come on channel 44 down here every weekday morning at 6am for a while until the mid 2000s, I think.
It did :biggrin: at 6 AM on weekdays.. I remember being in elementary school and before i went to school i was up to watch it
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on April 01, 2012, 03:47:04 PM
Garfield and Friends also used to come on channel 44 down here every weekday morning at 6am for a while until the mid 2000s, I think.
It did :biggrin: at 6 AM on weekdays.. I remember being in elementary school and before i went to school i was up to watch it
It used to come on every weekday mornings in my market as well.  Between September 1999 up until 2000 or 2001, it used to come on at 6 AM on WYZZ, which is my local FOX affiliate. I even remember prior to September 1999 my FOX affiliate before that aired Pokémon back when it was in first-run syndication.  :happy:  Nowadays, my local affiliate shows infomercials and stupid E/I mandated shows.  :( Plus I stopped watching Pokémon after the whole recasting thing. I now watch only the reruns from the orginal series on Boomerang.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 01, 2012, 04:14:19 PM
Garfield and Friends also used to come on channel 44 down here every weekday morning at 6am for a while until the mid 2000s, I think.
It did :biggrin: at 6 AM on weekdays.. I remember being in elementary school and before i went to school i was up to watch it
It used to come on every weekday mornings in my market as well.  Between September 1999 up until 2000 or 2001, it used to come on at 6 AM on WYZZ, which is my local FOX affiliate. I even remember prior to September 1999 my FOX affiliate before that aired Pokémon back when it was in first-run syndication.  :happy:  Nowadays, my local affiliate shows infomercials and stupid E/I mandated shows.  :( Plus I stopped watching Pokémon after the whole recasting thing. I now watch only the reruns from the orginal series on Boomerang.

Pokémon is on Boomerang? :huh: How did that happen? That doesn't even fit into the category of classic cartoons. :blink: Eh, but then again looking at some of the shows they have listed on the program guide, a good half of the shows on there are not classic and instead are more modern within the past decade. They've fallen victim to wanting to appeal to a mainstream audience too. :itsok:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Zach on April 01, 2012, 04:29:32 PM
Garfield and Friends also used to come on channel 44 down here every weekday morning at 6am for a while until the mid 2000s, I think.
It did :biggrin: at 6 AM on weekdays.. I remember being in elementary school and before i went to school i was up to watch it
It used to come on every weekday mornings in my market as well.  Between September 1999 up until 2000 or 2001, it used to come on at 6 AM on WYZZ, which is my local FOX affiliate. I even remember prior to September 1999 my FOX affiliate before that aired Pokémon back when it was in first-run syndication.  :happy:  Nowadays, my local affiliate shows infomercials and stupid E/I mandated shows.  :( Plus I stopped watching Pokémon after the whole recasting thing. I now watch only the reruns from the orginal series on Boomerang.

Pokémon is on Boomerang? :huh: How did that happen? That doesn't even fit into the category of classic cartoons. :blink: Eh, but then again looking at some of the shows they have listed on the program guide, a good half of the shows on there are not classic and instead are more modern within the past decade. They've fallen victim to wanting to appeal to a mainstream audience too. :itsok:
Its the original series of Pokemon, from the early 2000s.. if you think thats bad for Boomerang, they air the original Ben 10 as well <_<
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twcclassics on April 02, 2012, 11:16:46 AM
I miss the 90s when Nick showed cartoons like Inspector Gadget, Muppet Babies, Alvin and the Chipmunks, and Garfield and Friends.
Me too. Same with USA and TBS. I watch old promos on YT and RetroJunk just about want to cry. TV was so much better back then. I recently became reacquainted with "USA Up All Night" and "USA Cartoon Express." I remember at the time thinking "Up All Night" was such a lame show. Looking back, though, it was way better than these movie shows with bland, yet annoying hosts that tell you what kind of pizza to have at your Super Bowl party. Rhonda and Gilbert never tried to sell or "help" you with anything and they were funny. Plus, the movies they showed were unique. Unlike today, when its generally ho-hum movies you've seen dozens of times.

Back to Nick, I about s*** a brick the other day when I found episodes of "Are You Afraid Of The Dark" on iTunes. I had kind of forgotten about the show until Teen Nick showed two or three episodes last Halloween. To my disappointment, I found that though DVDs had been released, they were out of print.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 02, 2012, 11:57:36 AM
Everything about the 90s was great. Now everything is just ugh. :hmm: :(
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TWCJim on April 09, 2012, 04:12:33 PM
VH1 Classic, a music channel dedicated to all things classic hard rock and metal, is now showing the sitcom "Married... with Children" on the network. What does that show have to do with hard rock and/or metal?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Zach on April 09, 2012, 04:19:29 PM
MultiJesse1995, this thread is to discuss your opinions on the quality of cable television in the modern day of society, not to post your lineups. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: MultiJesse1995 on April 09, 2012, 05:20:28 PM
understood.  B) :yes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twcclassics on April 09, 2012, 10:30:58 PM
VH1 Classic, a music channel dedicated to all things classic hard rock and metal, is now showing the sitcom "Married... with Children" on the network. What does that show have to do with hard rock and/or metal?  :dunno:
Wow. That's really sad. It's a "classic" channel, yet it still falls to the pressure to "please everyone." Speaking of MWC, I've never understood the appeal of that show. Awful characters and awful writing. Okay, Kelly and Bud's girlfriend in later seasons were hot, but other than that, the show had no redeeming qualities IMO.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Eric on April 09, 2012, 10:52:43 PM
VH1 Classic, a music channel dedicated to all things classic hard rock and metal, is now showing the sitcom "Married... with Children" on the network. What does that show have to do with hard rock and/or metal?  :dunno:

That's downright bizarre.  Pretty soon, every single channel is going to be a carbon copy of every other single channel. :cry:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 09, 2012, 11:13:00 PM
VH1 Classic, a music channel dedicated to all things classic hard rock and metal, is now showing the sitcom "Married... with Children" on the network. What does that show have to do with hard rock and/or metal?  :dunno:
Wow. That's really sad. It's a "classic" channel, yet it still falls to the pressure to "please everyone." Speaking of MWC, I've never understood the appeal of that show. Awful characters and awful writing. Okay, Kelly and Bud's girlfriend in later seasons were hot, but other than that, the show had no redeeming qualities IMO.

It's syndicated just as much as That 70's Show sheesh. :wacko: And I disagree, I always liked MWC, it wasn't the best sitcom and the last couple of seasons weren't as great, but it was still a good show to me.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on April 09, 2012, 11:55:36 PM
At this point, Antenna TV is one of the few remaining *good* channels on the air.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Eric on April 10, 2012, 03:28:00 PM
At this point, Antenna TV is one of the few remaining *good* channels on the air.

Don't jinx it! :hammer:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on April 10, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
I found this interesting articals about cable TV's rising rates:
 
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/10/11118954-pay-tv-costing-a-pretty-penny-and-rising?lite (http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/10/11118954-pay-tv-costing-a-pretty-penny-and-rising?lite)
http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Study-Average-Cable-Bill-Will-Top-200-By-2020-119185 (http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Study-Average-Cable-Bill-Will-Top-200-By-2020-119185)
http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2012/02/5-theories-on-the-death-of-cable-tv----and-why-theyre-wrong060.html (http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2012/02/5-theories-on-the-death-of-cable-tv----and-why-theyre-wrong060.html)
 
It seems that most cable networks (and likely TWC) wants to raise the rates mostly because they want to put more programing and attract ratings. This is just one reason why Dish Network originally pulled the plug on TWC before when they reach that new agreement and shuttered "The Weather Cast" two years ago.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on April 10, 2012, 08:42:28 PM
At this point, Antenna TV is one of the few remaining *good* channels on the air.

Don't jinx it! :hammer:
Crap, I probably just did  :oops:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 10, 2012, 08:55:07 PM
What about GSN? I haven't watched that channel in years, do they still stick to showing only game shows?
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on April 10, 2012, 09:29:38 PM
What about GSN? I haven't watched that channel in years, do they still stick to showing only game shows?
I think GSN still shows game shows.  :yes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Eric on April 10, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
"Match Game" still gives me my daily dose of chuckles.  :)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on April 11, 2012, 11:28:01 AM
What about GSN? I haven't watched that channel in years, do they still stick to showing only game shows?
GSN was at its worst in 2004 when they showed reality shows such as Extreme Dodgeball and Kenny vs Spenny. At least they're better now.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on April 13, 2012, 01:46:54 AM
I miss the 90s when Nick showed cartoons like Inspector Gadget, Muppet Babies, Alvin and the Chipmunks, and Garfield and Friends.
Me too. Same with USA and TBS. I watch old promos on YT and RetroJunk just about want to cry. TV was so much better back then.
Yes, even looking up some of the old production logos on Youtube brings back memories, like DIC, the Program Exchange, LBS Communications, Ruby-Spears, Worldvision Enterprises, and Viacom.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Eric on April 13, 2012, 10:30:09 AM
The man saying "Viacom" used to scare me.  :)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 16, 2012, 01:31:41 PM
I've been wondering, are they ever going to take into consideration DVR recordings as apart of rating TV shows? The way they go about doing ratings now seems very "outdated" given the times. Since when has having ratings in the 8-10 million range been terrible? Not even a decade ago that would have made you a hit show. It bothers me that a lot of smart good shows keep getting the curb, but they keep milking the crap in a bucket *cough* *cough* Two and a Half Men for one.

Something else that grinds my gears is that they don't give new shows a chance to find an audience, even worse is when they shuffle them around to different days/timeslots to compete against other networks and many times it fails.

I'll end this sudden but small rant there.

P.S - Somebody please kill reality TV. :chair: :shoot:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Eric on May 16, 2012, 07:51:11 PM
Eventually it's going to become apparent that "by appointment" television viewing is eventually going to die.  Because of my DVR (and Hulu plays a minor role, too), maybe only 10% of what I watch on TV is currently being broadcast at that time.  Everything else is recorded for watching later.  Sometimes "later" means in 5 minutes, in an hour, in a day, in a month...
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twcclassics on May 17, 2012, 10:49:34 AM
Because of my DVR (and Hulu plays a minor role, too), maybe only 10% of what I watch on TV is currently being broadcast at that time.  Everything else is recorded for watching later.
Same here. Except the reason is that generally when I want to watch TV, there's nothing good on. For me, about 95% of what's on TV these days is garbage.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Lightning on June 16, 2012, 06:05:17 PM
What about GSN? I haven't watched that channel in years, do they still stick to showing only game shows?
I think GSN still shows game shows.  :yes:
It's not on basic cable anymore, though. :( It's on one of those triple digit channels that requires a cable box for you to get. That Game Show Network (what GSN stands for) had Family Feud of the 70s, 80s and early 90s (when Richard Dawson and Ray Combs were the hosts), Wheel of Fortune of the 80s and 90s, (Pat and Vanna were so much younger) Price is right of the 80s (when Bob Barker still had black hair), Match Game PM, Jeapardy of the 80s and 90s...
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Star4000 Fan on July 11, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
I found this interesting articals about cable TV's rising rates:
 
[url]http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/10/11118954-pay-tv-costing-a-pretty-penny-and-rising?lite[/url] ([url]http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/10/11118954-pay-tv-costing-a-pretty-penny-and-rising?lite[/url])
[url]http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Study-Average-Cable-Bill-Will-Top-200-By-2020-119185[/url] ([url]http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Study-Average-Cable-Bill-Will-Top-200-By-2020-119185[/url])
[url]http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2012/02/5-theories-on-the-death-of-cable-tv----and-why-theyre-wrong060.html[/url] ([url]http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2012/02/5-theories-on-the-death-of-cable-tv----and-why-theyre-wrong060.html[/url])
 
It seems that most cable networks (and likely TWC) wants to raise the rates mostly because they want to put more programing and attract ratings. This is just one reason why Dish Network originally pulled the plug on TWC before when they reach that new agreement and shuttered "The Weather Cast" two years ago.


I am paying $125 a month for two television sets with Cinemax and HBO.   I have seen it rise from $90 in just the last five years.....I have FEWER channels, too.  I still get charged for two remotes and cable boxes.  The remotes are worn out....and the cable boxes, on good days only, actually tell me what show is on.  It used to work all of the time, but now it's like 5% of the time.

It's gone downhill since the recession started for sure. 

I remember asking to have a set of channels added for $2.50 so I could get Game Show Network....2003.  They changed themselves to GSN in March 2004, and the cable company removed the channel completely by September.  I have not seen it since.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Eric on July 11, 2012, 10:28:41 PM
I remember asking to have a set of channels added for $2.50 so I could get Game Show Network....2003.  They changed themselves to GSN in March 2004, and the cable company removed the channel completely by September.  I have not seen it since.

I'd go insane if I couldn't get my daily hour of "Match Game."
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Adrian on August 03, 2012, 05:30:51 PM
Yes, all cable networks are now similar.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TWCJim on November 11, 2012, 06:46:43 PM
Here's something to add to the VH1 Classic party -- according to their TV schedule, they're going to air 8 hours of Rocky and Bullwinkle on Thanksgiving Day (the 22nd.) IMO it was a good show, but really, VH1 Classic?   <_<   Kind of a bad place to be airing an old kiddie show, don't ya think?  :nono:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on November 12, 2012, 09:40:27 PM
Even Boomerang is airing Pokemon Diamond & Pearl (that's still too recent).  :wall:   Plus, both Cartoon Network and Boomerang airs Pokemon only once a day and airs the rest of their programing with live action garbage.  :angry:
Before you know it, I could imagine exclusive live coverage of the Superbowl on The Weather Channel.  :wow:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Adrian on December 21, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnbc-unveils-new-reality-primetime_b159662 (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnbc-unveils-new-reality-primetime_b159662)

CNBC is going down the same path as TWC is going. Cable TV is going downhill!
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twcclassics on January 07, 2013, 03:36:54 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bewkes-on-cord-cutters-2012-11 (http://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bewkes-on-cord-cutters-2012-11)

The CEO of Time Warner brushes off those who have cancelled their cable TV service. I find it comical that anyone would go to the CEO of the largest cable company in the country to get his take on whether services like Hulu are a threat. Of course he's going to deny that they're a threat! :rolleyes:

What I find interesting, though, is that he compares people who spend $5 at Starbucks everyday to cable TV. The problem, as I see it, is that when you go to Starbucks you generally get what you want (and nothing more). With cable and satellite TV, you get what you want, and a lot of what you don't want. Now if you don't get what you want at Starbucks, there are dozens of other coffee places you can go to. With cable and satellite, you don't really have a choice. If I could get the shows I like on demand from another provider without paying for the "extras," I'd sign up in a heartbeat!

Oh, and the reason most don't go with the "cheap" cable package is because they don't have any channels worth watching. I don't know about you, but the channels I want are always in one of the top two "tiers." The cheap plan for Cox Cable, for example, is almost exclusively public access, local, and shopping channels. Sure, it also includes WGN and TBS, but who still watches those channels? :P
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: phw115wvwx on January 07, 2013, 04:35:30 PM
There have been efforts to try to impose a law for cable companies to offer customers a way to pick only the channels they want in "ŕ la carte" style.  Unfortunately, that effort has yet to come to fruition, and I doubt it will any time soon. :no:  You really don't have many choices for television as Matt said.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 07, 2013, 05:32:49 PM
It would be nice if DISH offered a la carte packaging, but you can currently only do that for international programming. There are several channels (Nat Geo, Boomerage, Nicktoons, Science Channel) that I would love to purchase but it's not worth paying considerably more for more channels that I could quite frankly care less about.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on March 20, 2013, 10:31:01 PM
I just noticed, earlier this month truTV has cut back their daytime weekday court trial coverage from six to two hours, from 9-11AM. Won't be surprised if it's phased out completely soon...
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Travis(: on May 13, 2013, 01:03:55 PM
TV Networks like TWC are making their channels more and more useless that there is no point in even having them on the air.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: brandonmahaffey85 on May 16, 2013, 11:45:37 AM
Does anyone else have Altitude Communications? Their headquarters are based in Valdosta, GA. They are the most unreliable cable company out there. And if anyone else does have Altitude Communications what version of the WXSTAR do you have? I have WXSTAR XL I would prefer to have the IS but I doubt my cable company would pay to have it. So it looks like I'm stuck with the XL.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 16, 2013, 12:08:59 PM
Does anyone else have Altitude Communications? Their headquarters are based in Valdosta, GA. They are the most unreliable cable company out there.

Nope, ever heard of them  :no:, but I say the samething about Comcast/Xfinity everyday. :lol:

I have WXSTAR XL I would prefer to have the IS but I doubt my cable company would pay to have it. So it looks like I'm stuck with the XL.  :thumbdown:

I'll trade with you, I'm tired of having/looking at an IntelliStar. :P
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: brandonmahaffey85 on May 16, 2013, 12:17:54 PM
LOL OK Deal let's trade  :lol:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Adrian on February 19, 2014, 01:43:05 PM
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/rebranded-hln-introduces-new-shows-fueled-by-social-media_b213990 (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/rebranded-hln-introduces-new-shows-fueled-by-social-media_b213990)

HLN (formerly CNN Headline News) is now taking the TWC/MTV path to airing Reality Porgramming, Game Shows and yes, Cartoons.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on February 19, 2014, 02:27:30 PM
[url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/rebranded-hln-introduces-new-shows-fueled-by-social-media_b213990[/url] ([url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/rebranded-hln-introduces-new-shows-fueled-by-social-media_b213990[/url])

HLN (formerly CNN Headline News) is now taking the TWC/MTV path to airing Reality Porgramming, Game Shows and yes, Cartoons.

Great, there goes more news time...
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Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twcclassics on February 19, 2014, 03:30:03 PM
[url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/rebranded-hln-introduces-new-shows-fueled-by-social-media_b213990[/url] ([url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/rebranded-hln-introduces-new-shows-fueled-by-social-media_b213990[/url])

HLN (formerly CNN Headline News) is now taking the TWC/MTV path to airing Reality Porgramming, Game Shows and yes, Cartoons.

Wow, that's horrific. And I don't even watch HLN.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: kcspis1 on February 19, 2014, 05:33:41 PM
OMG, What will Nancy Grace do now?
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: GEAUXmedic on February 19, 2014, 08:01:19 PM
OMG, What will Nancy Grace do now?

Her contract was just extended.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twcclassics on February 23, 2014, 10:01:49 PM
Is it just me, or is A&E taking cues from TWC and creating a new reality show every month? The weird thing is that most of them run for a couple of weeks, and then are never shown again. Shows like Crazy Hearts Nashville, Modern Dads, Psychic Tia, Rodeo Girls, and The Governor's Wife were supposedly the next best thing. Yet I haven't seen an ad about them since their initial run. Which is fine with me. I'm sick of shows about trashy/fake people. And given the success of Duck Dynasty, you'd think they would create new shows that are similar to it (ie. shows that appeal to families). Apparently not (except for Wahlburgers).
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Adrian on April 10, 2014, 06:58:19 PM
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn-adds-shows-from-mike-rowe-lisa-ling-and-john-walsh-to-primetime_b220997 (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn-adds-shows-from-mike-rowe-lisa-ling-and-john-walsh-to-primetime_b220997)

CNN is pulling a TWC to a lesser extent by beginning to air Reality/Documentary Programming weeknights at 9pm ET.

However which is somewhat ironic, CNN will begin airing newscasts at 10pm ET. TWC has no live weather program at 10pm ET since they reduced WCL hours back in November.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on October 14, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
[url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/rebranded-hln-introduces-new-shows-fueled-by-social-media_b213990[/url] ([url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/rebranded-hln-introduces-new-shows-fueled-by-social-media_b213990[/url])

HLN (formerly CNN Headline News) is now taking the TWC/MTV path to airing Reality Porgramming, Game Shows and yes, Cartoons.
About 80% of what they air now is Forensic Files. I mean it's a great show and all (I watched it all the time when it was on Court TV), but gimme a break, there are other good crime documentaries out there too. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 14, 2014, 10:46:21 PM
I don't watch HLN, but apparently they got rid of Jane Velez Mitchell (and 15 other employees) along with cancelling her primetime show so they have begun cleaning house.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/jane-velez-mitchell-show-canceled_b242194 (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/jane-velez-mitchell-show-canceled_b242194)

Turner Broadcasting is cleaning house too...10% (1,475 employees) cut from the workforce
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/turner-to-cut-10-of-workforce_b241240 (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/turner-to-cut-10-of-workforce_b241240)

CNN beginning layoffs as well...8% of workforce cut
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/layoffs-at-cnn-begin_b241993 (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/layoffs-at-cnn-begin_b241993)
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: Mike M on December 05, 2014, 04:16:52 PM
OMG, What will Nancy Grace do now?

Her contract was just extended.
She's not going anywhere, ratings on her show are phenomenal (why I have no clue).
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: DaRobloxCat on October 28, 2015, 05:06:27 PM
You forgot about the Disney Channel...
Who watches the Disney Channel these days? :rolleyes:
what about cory in the house
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: twcclassics on October 29, 2015, 10:17:25 AM
what about cory in the house
That's still on? I thought that ended years ago.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: SpongeStorm4000 on March 04, 2016, 10:46:58 PM
If cable is going downhill that bad, maybe they should re-launch The Weather Channel as both a cable/satellite TV network and digital subchannel. It could give WeatherNation a run for their money. I could see a couple of Ion affiliates pick up TWC as one of their digital subchannels like they did with QVC and HSN, which also have cable TV counterparts. Each TWC affiliate could also be given an Intellistar 2 jr to utilize for their Local on the 8s forecasts, which would originate from each Ion affiliate's city of license.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TWCWyatt on March 09, 2016, 10:37:06 PM
I really miss SCI cable. At least I could watch the Wx4000 whenever the LOT8s came on.
They're still in business in rural KS neighborhoods, though. I don't know about Florida (moving there next year), because I really want to see the Wx4000 in my home state <3
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TWCWyatt on March 09, 2016, 10:38:37 PM
what about cory in the house
That's still on? I thought that ended years ago.
They air reruns at midnight.
Sorry for the double-post.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TechKitten on May 08, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
Yes, cable TV is going downhill, in 2013 Comcast removed Weatherscan from all packages in the city  :thumbdown: and got the IS2XD on day of launch  :cry:. Also, sooner or later KRDO will be pulled off the air due to contract issues in my area, and I might loose our iGuide box to the Xfinity X1 boxes that Comcast is forcing down our throats.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TWCWyatt on May 09, 2016, 01:25:41 AM
Yes, cable TV is going downhill, in 2013 Comcast removed Weatherscan from all packages in the city  :thumbdown: and got the IS2XD on day of launch  :cry:. Also, sooner or later KRDO will be pulled off the air due to contract issues in my area, and I might loose our iGuide box to the Xfinity X1 boxes that Comcast is forcing down our throats.
Monopolies truly do suck. :(
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on November 06, 2020, 05:38:39 PM
In terms of scheduling, cable tv is definitely not the same as it used to be. Before the days of Netflix and such, they used to give shows equal screentime, regardless if it iwas a hit or not. But then sometimes around the 2010s, most tv networks started dedicating to playing lots of reruns of a particular show because it gets the most ratings, such as:
Ridiculousness (MTV)
Impractical Jokers (TruTV)
SpongeBob (Nickelodeon/Nicktoons)
Friends (Nick at Nite)
Teen Titans GO (Cartoon Network)
Puppy Dog Pals (Disney Junior)
Andy Griffith Show (TV Land)
Bar Rescue (Paramount Network)
South Park (Comedy Central)

Go check the TV Guide and you know what I'm talking about...
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TWC Fan on November 07, 2020, 10:23:55 AM
I think all TV channels is becoming like that now and the way TV shows comes on and off.
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: ElmoFX on August 16, 2022, 12:56:53 PM
 :pinch: Cord Cutting IS the Reason
Title: Re: Is cable TV going downhill?
Post by: TWCC_DJK5555 on August 22, 2022, 09:24:52 PM
In terms of scheduling, cable tv is definitely not the same as it used to be. Before the days of Netflix and such, they used to give shows equal screentime, regardless if it iwas a hit or not. But then sometimes around the 2010s, most tv networks started dedicating to playing lots of reruns of a particular show because it gets the most ratings, such as:
Ridiculousness (MTV)
Impractical Jokers (TruTV)
SpongeBob (Nickelodeon/Nicktoons)
Friends (Nick at Nite)
Teen Titans GO (Cartoon Network)
Puppy Dog Pals (Disney Junior)
Andy Griffith Show (TV Land)
Bar Rescue (Paramount Network)
South Park (Comedy Central)

Go check the TV Guide and you know what I'm talking about...

It seems like ''The Office'' is the only thing that airs on Comedy Central anymore.