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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #120 on: January 14, 2014, 02:01:33 AM »
TWC goes to a non weather related reality show at 2am ET. I'd rather have a 3 hour loop of forecasts.

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #121 on: January 14, 2014, 02:03:27 AM »
This is the new episode of Freaks of Nature that was going to air last night too.

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #122 on: January 14, 2014, 07:24:49 AM »
The Part-Time Weather Channel is no big loss to me. DirecTV takes no s*** from anyone. Goodbye, and good riddance.

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #123 on: January 14, 2014, 07:26:00 AM »
Yep WeatherNation is now on TWC's original spot at Ch362. TWC is live 24/7 again.

It's official, it's WAR between DirecTV and TWC, and I strongly believe DISH will be next to drop because their contract with TWC is set to expire in July according to a source.

I hope not! Just add The 3 others! This would never work with the sports and/or news channels! Why are Weather channels different?!??!


Any guesses on how long TWC will be off DTV? Will this make National or cable news? How will this change WN and TWC, because WN just a big promotion!

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #124 on: January 14, 2014, 09:51:29 AM »
It's done.  I guess DTV's controlling the weather now, according to what TWC said.  Do I blame DTV for the clouds that have rolled in, lol?  :rofl2:  That was a dumb thing for the channel to say IMO.

TWC going live at such an unusual time seemed like a stunt, much like the kind radio stations do when they're about to change format or something.  I predict that they might stay live until a deal gets reached with DTV, but to whom are the continued pleas going to be relevant unless the DTV subscribers happen to have access to other providers?

Any guesses on how long TWC will be off DTV? Will this make National or cable news? How will this change WN and TWC, because WN just a big promotion!

I bet it will be a Viacom-style deal, and TWC will be off for two weeks at the max.  I'm sure it will make the news on all of NBC's news outlets (as a front to beg people to call DTV or Congress), but I doubt the others even touch it.

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #125 on: January 14, 2014, 09:56:16 AM »
Quote from: Weather Company Chairman And CEO David Kenny
ATLANTA -- January 14, 2014 -- At 12:01 this morning,  The Weather Channel is no longer available on DIRECTV,  which refused to come to an agreement on a market-based carriage deal. Following is a statement from David Kenny, chairman and CEO of The Weather Company:

“This is unprecedented for The Weather Channel. In our 32 years, we have never had a significant disruption due to a failure to reach a carriage agreement. We offered DIRECTV the best rate for our programming, and I am shocked they have put corporate profits ahead of keeping a trusted channel that subscribers rely on every day. We are not looking for a large fee increase. We are simply looking for a fair deal that allows our company to continue to invest in the science and technology that enables us to keep people safe, deliver the world’s best weather, and tell weather stories to help people be prepared and informed.

“At a time when DIRECTV has increased customer rates by 4 percent, they are trading safety for  increased profits and replacing the experience and expertise of The Weather Channel with a cheap startup that does weather forecasting on a three-hour taped loop, has no field coverage, no weather experts -- certainly not any on par with The Weather Channel network’s industry-recognized experts like tornado expert Dr. Greg Forbes and winter weather expert Tom Niziol --  and no experience in severe weather emergencies. This is a dangerous gamble over one penny a month that puts DIRECTV customers at risk.

“This reckless move by DIRECTV will have an impact on our role as part of the national safety and preparedness fabric of our country at a time when the volatility and frequency of weather events seems to be increasing. The Weather Channel partners with humanitarian and emergency management agencies at the local, state and federal levels. We help people prepare before storms, stay safe during their effects, and find help afterward. If the network is not available to viewers, the effectiveness of these partnerships, which help make us a more weather ready nation, are jeopardized. I am hopeful DIRECTV will come to their senses soon and will not force its customers to change carriers to stay safe and informed.”


I highlight this part because I believe David Kelley may need to do some research into his own company. If he did, he wouldn't have made the mistake of being grossly hypocritical.

Weathernation has only been around about a couple of years now. I'm neutral to WeatherNation, I don't like it or dislike it. I believe it still needs a lot of work. In fact I wasn't even aware the live segments were on a loop, I've never watched the channel more than 5 mins. at a time before. However, with all of that being said, I think David Kelley has forgotten or chosen to ignore the fact that TWC had to start from the bottom up to get to where it is now.

In comparison to where WeatherNation is now...
In the first couple of years, Did TWC have Jim Cantore? NO.
Did TWC have Dr. Greg Forbes, Tom Niziol, Greg Postel? NO, They had John Hope, but outside of him back then they had nobody as an expert.
Did TWC have field coverage? NOPE. Not until Hugo which was...oh 7 years AFTER their existence as a weather network. I'm not sayin' anything, I'm just sayin'.

I know well established networks such as TWC will take jabs at their competitors, calling them "cheap startups" but it's clearly an ironic one to take considering TWC themselves ALMOST failed as a 24/7 cable weather network in it's early years because critics took them to be a joke.

Long story short, TWC better tread the water carefully and not underestimate what WeatherNation, Network Weather or Accuweather is capable of doing this year and years to follow. It's an open free market now so there will be winners and losers. For TWC's own sake, I hope they don't play to be on the loser's side.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 09:58:15 AM by toxictwister00 »


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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #126 on: January 14, 2014, 09:59:21 AM »
:fight:

Now, let's see who's next to drop the channel.  If Dish does it next, then the channel might get back on track for good.  I predict some house cleaning may be done at the channel now, starting with those responsible for the non-weather-related longform. 

Of course, I don't imagine this dispute will be permanent.  The Viacom dispute wasn't.

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #127 on: January 14, 2014, 10:42:37 AM »
:fight:

Now, let's see who's next to drop the channel.  If Dish does it next, then the channel might get back on track for good.  I predict some house cleaning may be done at the channel now, starting with those responsible for the non-weather-related longform. 

Of course, I don't imagine this dispute will be permanent.  The Viacom dispute wasn't.
^ DISH's VOOM dispute was permanent or its still going on. As far as people who leave TWC Al should be the first.  I like him on TODAY but not on TWC. As far as the longform people,  are they from NBC or TWC?

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #128 on: January 14, 2014, 10:44:26 AM »
They added a new Cantore promo where he says DTV has dropped The Weather Channel and tells people to e-mail someone at DTV and gives an 1-800 number.
Not sure who TWC believes is going to e-mail and or call since DTV subscribers are not getting the message on TWC.

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #129 on: January 14, 2014, 12:40:44 PM »
It's done.  I guess DTV's controlling the weather now, according to what TWC said.  Do I blame DTV for the clouds that have rolled in, lol?  :rofl2:  That was a dumb thing for the channel to say IMO.

TWC going live at such an unusual time seemed like a stunt, much like the kind radio stations do when they're about to change format or something.  I predict that they might stay live until a deal gets reached with DTV, but to whom are the continued pleas going to be relevant unless the DTV subscribers happen to have access to other providers?

But IceManNYR said that TWC went to a taped non-weather reality show at 2am ET this morning.  So their continuous live coverage ended (even though I thought they said they were going to be live until 3 am?)  Did TWC really just lie like that? :rolleyes:

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #130 on: January 14, 2014, 01:53:11 PM »
TWC aired "Freaks of Nature" 2-4am. TWC is staying live this afternoon into the eventing.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/one-pathetic-pr-storm-weather-channels-strategy-in-directv-fight-is-laughable/
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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #131 on: January 14, 2014, 02:05:03 PM »
TWC aired "Freaks of Nature" 2-4am. TWC is staying live this afternoon into the eventing.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/one-pathetic-pr-storm-weather-channels-strategy-in-directv-fight-is-laughable/

Totally Agree. Also on an article I read TWC claims they sidelined long form because of viewer complaints, Really!? I think you increased until DTV threatened to drop you. And They Did!
http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/13/news/companies/weather-channel-directv/

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #132 on: January 14, 2014, 02:06:44 PM »
Just thought of something. Now that WN has DTV, would WN drop their Local channels?

I'm speechless! I'm totally shocked that there's WCL at 2PM!! Good Job TWC! For now.

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #133 on: January 14, 2014, 03:48:10 PM »
By Chris Ariens on May 1, 2010 9:26 AM
Longtime Weather Channel meteorologist Jim Cantore, who often pops up on sister networks NBC and MSNBC, Tweeted an apology to his followers after the network remained with a movie, instead of breaking in with tornado coverage from Arkansas.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/jim-cantore-not-happy-about-weather-channel-airing-movie-instead-of-severe-weather-coverage_b24667

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Re: DirecTV Dropping TWC
« Reply #134 on: January 14, 2014, 03:57:17 PM »
By Chris Ariens on May 1, 2010 9:26 AM
Longtime Weather Channel meteorologist Jim Cantore, who often pops up on sister networks NBC and MSNBC, Tweeted an apology to his followers after the network remained with a movie, instead of breaking in with tornado coverage from Arkansas.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/jim-cantore-not-happy-about-weather-channel-airing-movie-instead-of-severe-weather-coverage_b24667


I was wondering if someone was going to bring that up. :P