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Title: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 08:18:36 PM
Billy has come to me, and we both agree that I should expand the width of the design, maybe double it. It looks a bit too narrow on a wide screen monitor and I was thinking about it but I don't know what others think. Right now  it's 475 pixels wide, which is narrow. Compare it to the forums logo, which is 700 pixels wide. Do you all think I should open the CSS and expand the table out a bit, which would make room to add about 3 new menus to the menu bar... I want to know what others think. Again, I will only listen to the majority, not just 2-3 people.

I have whipped up a poll. It will run for 14 days maximum. You will not see the results unless you vote.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: Mike M on January 02, 2009, 08:21:07 PM
Yes, I think it could be expanded a little, and also centered on the page instead of on the left side.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 02, 2009, 08:22:57 PM
Ditto, I have a widescreen and the home page looks scrunched up.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 08:23:42 PM
hmmm I'm not sure,but if enough people go yes, we'll start with the expansion then I'll think about centering it...
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2009, 08:45:24 PM
I think it should be expanded, but instead of adding to the menu bar, I'd prefer to simply have it expanded, keeping the current number of options.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 09:32:13 PM
I think it should be expanded, but instead of adding to the menu bar, I'd prefer to simply have it expanded, keeping the current number of options.
hmmm, you mean something like keep emptiness next to the menubar for the 300 or so pixels I will add?
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2009, 09:35:44 PM
I think it should be expanded, but instead of adding to the menu bar, I'd prefer to simply have it expanded, keeping the current number of options.
hmmm, you mean something like keep emptiness next to the menubar for the 300 or so pixels I will add?
No, I mean like expand the current menu bar to fit in the extra space.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 09:39:38 PM
I think it should be expanded, but instead of adding to the menu bar, I'd prefer to simply have it expanded, keeping the current number of options.
hmmm, you mean something like keep emptiness next to the menubar for the 300 or so pixels I will add?
No, I mean like expand the current menu bar to fit in the extra space.
hmmmmm.... that's definitely a possibility... I'll think about the possibilities... poll is closed. I'll work on finding myself a test php server so I can work on the CSS a bit, what I need from you, Gary, is to get me the hex values of your A links CSS variable so you won't have to modify that again.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2009, 09:41:44 PM
I think it should be expanded, but instead of adding to the menu bar, I'd prefer to simply have it expanded, keeping the current number of options.
hmmm, you mean something like keep emptiness next to the menubar for the 300 or so pixels I will add?
No, I mean like expand the current menu bar to fit in the extra space.
hmmmmm.... that's definitely a possibility... I'll think about the possibilities... poll is closed. I'll work on finding myself a test php server so I can work on the CSS a bit, what I need from you, Gary, is to get me the hex values of your A links CSS variable so you won't have to modify that again.
Laymens terms please.  :D
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 02, 2009, 09:42:35 PM
I was going to say something about this and didn't. As everyone else has said, I think the width should be doubled and the page centered, too. :yes:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 09:42:57 PM
I think it should be expanded, but instead of adding to the menu bar, I'd prefer to simply have it expanded, keeping the current number of options.
hmmm, you mean something like keep emptiness next to the menubar for the 300 or so pixels I will add?
No, I mean like expand the current menu bar to fit in the extra space.
hmmmmm.... that's definitely a possibility... I'll think about the possibilities... poll is closed. I'll work on finding myself a test php server so I can work on the CSS a bit, what I need from you, Gary, is to get me the hex values of your A links CSS variable so you won't have to modify that again.
Laymens terms please.  :D

find:
/* Links
------------------------------------------------------------------*/
and give me the values.... :P
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2009, 09:48:07 PM
Visited: #6600FF
Hover: #990099
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 09:50:39 PM
Visited: #6600FF
Hover: #990099
Thanks :)

Alright guys, this is my project for tomorrow, major work done tomorrow, final touchups done Sunday, I email the changes to Gary Monday or Tuesday when I can. A bit busy for the next few days but I'm determined! You won't be disappointed! :)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 09:53:08 PM
I've got my space secured! If you wanna track some (early) progress, go to http://jtmal.just-owns.eu/ (http://jtmal.just-owns.eu/) ... there's nothing there now but you will see!
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2009, 09:54:52 PM
Visited: #6600FF
Hover: #990099
Thanks :)

Alright guys, this is my project for tomorrow, major work done tomorrow, final touchups done Sunday, I email the changes to Gary Monday or Tuesday when I can. A bit busy for the next few days but I'm determined! You won't be disappointed! :)

I'm looking forward to it!  :biggrin: B)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 10:40:43 PM
Here's my list of things I'll be tweaking on the site, correct me if I'm wrong on any of these or if I'm missing any...

1) expanding the table atleast 300 pixels...
2) possibly enlarging the font 1-2pt...
3) add the 3d text effects for "twc" and "today" that are present in the forum logo to the site logo
4) curve the fade in the site logo a bit...

I think that's all... I'll start working on it tomorrow :)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2009, 10:46:33 PM
Sounds like everything to me!  :yes: :biggrin:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: Mike M on January 02, 2009, 11:02:36 PM
Is it possible to have the table centered on the page like I stated in my earlier post?
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 11:03:27 PM
Is it possible to have the table centered on the page like I stated in my earlier post?
I'm going to try and see how it looks... if the fade doesn't work with it centered, then no it most likely won't... I can't promise anything, but of course, I will try it.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 02, 2009, 11:09:44 PM
Here's my list of things I'll be tweaking on the site, correct me if I'm wrong on any of these or if I'm missing any...

1) expanding the table atleast 300 pixels...
2) possibly enlarging the font 1-2pt...
3) add the 3d text effects for "twc" and "today" that are present in the forum logo to the site logo
4) curve the fade in the site logo a bit...

I think that's all... I'll start working on it tomorrow :)

I can't wait for the next update. :biggrin: I was going to mention increasing the font size, too; I'm glad you thought of that. :yes: And, wow, I can't belive you're able to do everything this quickly. Thank you! :)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2009, 11:18:42 PM
Here's my list of things I'll be tweaking on the site, correct me if I'm wrong on any of these or if I'm missing any...

1) expanding the table atleast 300 pixels...
2) possibly enlarging the font 1-2pt...
3) add the 3d text effects for "twc" and "today" that are present in the forum logo to the site logo
4) curve the fade in the site logo a bit...

I think that's all... I'll start working on it tomorrow :)

I can't wait for the next update. :biggrin: I was going to mention increasing the font size, too; I'm glad you thought of that. :yes: And, wow, I can't belive you're able to do everything this quickly. Thank you! :)

Its really not terribly difficult. He could probably have it done sooner if he wanted to.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 02, 2009, 11:46:10 PM
Alrighty... I've gotten the menu system expanded per Gary's wishes, and I increased the font... It's a start and I would like to know what everyone thinks so far.... I'm not done with the rest of the design yet, keep this in mind...

Should I made the menu hover a little darker also?

http://jtmal.just-owns.eu/ (http://jtmal.just-owns.eu/)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 03, 2009, 12:05:21 AM
Alrighty... I've gotten the menu system expanded per Gary's wishes, and I increased the font... It's a start and I would like to know what everyone thinks so far.... I'm not done with the rest of the design yet, keep this in mind...

Should I made the menu hover a little darker also?

[url]http://jtmal.just-owns.eu/[/url] ([url]http://jtmal.just-owns.eu/[/url])


1) expanding the table atleast 300 pixels... expanded approx 227 pixels for a total of a 702 pixel width
2) possibly enlarging the font 1-2pt... font enlarged from 11px to 13px
3) add the 3d text effects for "twc" and "today" that are present in the forum logo to the site logo
4) curve the fade in the site logo a bit...
5) center the table to see how it works centering the table seems to have worked well... we shall see when I finalize the logo

going good so far... will continue tomorrow  :biggrin:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: Tyler on January 03, 2009, 12:17:35 AM
Looks good. For the table, I would go a little bigger actually, IMO.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 03, 2009, 12:46:47 AM
Looks good. For the table, I would go a little bigger actually, IMO.
I'm not going any bigger than 700 mainly because the average resolution of a person's monitor this day in age is 1024x768 and I don't want to make it look bad for those users.
Title: I have finished the design update!
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 03, 2009, 01:04:40 AM
I AM DONE!! IT'S COMPLETE!

I have finished the design update... I would like to get everyone's thoughts and things I should change before I ship the design off to Gary... I like it... If everything's good, I don't think I'll change much of anything for quite a while...  :yes:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: Mike M on January 03, 2009, 01:20:05 AM
can we see a screenshot of how it looks?
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 03, 2009, 01:22:10 AM
can we see a screenshot of how it looks?
I thought I pasted the URL.... sorry... http://jtmal.just-owns.eu (http://jtmal.just-owns.eu)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: Mike M on January 03, 2009, 01:22:58 AM
Looks much better now!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 03, 2009, 05:43:58 AM
Pending any suggestive changes that should be made to the design by request, this is the final draft and I will email the design off to Gary when I wake up.  :yes: Again, the url is http://jtmal.just-owns.eu (http://jtmal.just-owns.eu)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 03, 2009, 08:34:49 AM
Looks great to me!  :yes: :biggrin: B)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 03, 2009, 07:12:27 PM
I have sent the 3 files off to Gary so it should be soon we'll see the updates!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 03, 2009, 08:18:40 PM
Yep, I'll have them up very shortly!  B)
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 03, 2009, 08:22:55 PM
As far as I'm concerned, none of the pages will have to be updated... just the index.php, CSS file, and logo.png  :yes:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 03, 2009, 08:44:25 PM
The new look is now up!  :biggrin:

Thanks so much for your hard work, Jesse!  B) :biggrin:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 03, 2009, 08:53:41 PM
Thanks! and it's all lookin' good so far  B)

Now Gary can continue to work on the rest of the pages and they'll hopefully all be up and ready soon! Can't wait!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 03, 2009, 09:07:03 PM
Anything else minor that needs changing, like fine tuning? If not, I officially declare this project 100% complete and I have no intentions of making any new changes any time soon, unless TWC makes another update to the IntelliStar (at their scheduling pace, one should be coming sometime this year)... if that does happen, a new logo would of course be worked on, but otherwise, It's solidified. :yes:
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 03, 2009, 09:49:07 PM
Thanks! and it's all lookin' good so far  B)

Now Gary can continue to work on the rest of the pages and they'll hopefully all be up and ready soon! Can't wait!  :biggrin:

Most of the pages actually are up. There's only a few that I haven't completed yet. Those should be finished tomorrpw.
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: Gil on January 04, 2009, 12:42:23 PM
I skipped over pretty much all of the posts in here, but is it possible for the width to change, depending on the size of the browser window?
Title: Re: A suggestion for the site design has been brought to my attention
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 04, 2009, 03:38:43 PM
I skipped over pretty much all of the posts in here, but is it possible for the width to change, depending on the size of the browser window?
That's not going to happen, due to the fact the menu has a fixed width and if I make it dynamic to the size of the browser window, it'll overlap onto the next line, breaking the CSS and making the menu system not work properly. I thought about that but it's not going to happen. At least not right now. Sorry.