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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => Programming and Graphics => Topic started by: Tyler on January 06, 2011, 10:16:07 PM
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Found an interesting read in today's Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Here's a link to the article, and I've attached a clearer image of the new schedule.
http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/arts-entertainment-living/tuned-in-journal/26881-weather-channel-evolves (http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/arts-entertainment-living/tuned-in-journal/26881-weather-channel-evolves)
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I have an issue with this schedule... There seems to be a shift issue in the program they used t obuild this schedule. First Outlook doesn't air on Sundays. I'm also noticing weather classroom and sunrise weather on Friday, which should be Sunday. I think that was done in error. Also, it seems the image has changed since you posted this, as the image does not match what you posted:
(http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com/images/stories/r_owen/Weather_Channel_schedule.jpg)
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I have an issue with this schedule... There seems to be a shift issue in the program they used t obuild this schedule. First Outlook doesn't air on Sundays. I'm also noticing weather classroom and sunrise weather on Friday, which should be Sunday. I think that was done in error. Also, it seems the image has changed since you posted this, as the image does not match what you posted:
([url]http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com/images/stories/r_owen/Weather_Channel_schedule.jpg[/url])
...and I'm pretty sure 8 consecutive hours of Weather Center would not be shown on Sunday of all days, either. :no: (although, this does not appear in the schedule Jesse posted).
I'm not sure how much I can trust these schedules with the many errors. But I will say that I'm quite upset that Monday-Friday are going to become like the weekends with long-form shown more than live weather. :cry: Very upset. :angry:
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So, that schedule might not be 100% correct, however we do know for sure Weather Center has been cut back M-F in favor of long form, which is disappointing IMO.
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<_< Where's The Weather Cast When you Need it. :hammer: Unacceptable. :thumbdown:
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This is EXACTLY what I was looking forward to, and it is here. RIP 50% of Weather Center.
<_< Where's The Weather Cast When you Need it. :hammer: Unacceptable. :thumbdown:
Not gonna happen. TWCast do not have any plans to come back. TWChannel continues to have better ratings.
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So, that schedule might not be 100% correct, however we do know for sure Weather Center has been cut back M-F in favor of long form, which is disappointing IMO.
We know how accurate TWCs schedules tend to be :P
http://twcmediakit.com/cable/schedule/schedule.html (http://twcmediakit.com/cable/schedule/schedule.html)
Article seems legit though and about what I expect from TWC.
I like this quote
"[Viewers] are telling us that weather is more to them than just forecasting, but it's about how weather impacts their life," he said. "The customer has told us that engaging programming in primetime is actually something that they are interested in from The Weather Channel, but it has to be without giving up any of our commitment to live weather coverage."
First they say weather is important to people. Then they say people want long form but without loosing live weather coverage. 1. Thats impossible 2. I have yet to meet the person who says "hey lets sit down and watch this great program on The Weather Channel during primetime". 3. Who is the "customer"? Cable companies or the average joe sitting at home?
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The squeezeback during long-form looks interesting. I guess they're unhappy with their previous two attempts (the original L-bar and the current "L"-bar?)
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By the looks of the fonts and the radar image, that looks like a mock up for the squeezeback for the Istar2. I have a feeling the Istar's will be a little different. I'll see what I can find out.
Article seems legit though and about what I expect from TWC.
It's definitely legit. Even though it's presented in a blog-like format, the writer is Rob Owen, who is a TV/radio reporter for the Post Gazette. I've been reading his stuff for years (he initially reported on Paul Kocin's departure even before it was made official at TWCC) and has a good track record with inside/sneak peek information.
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I have no opinions about this, since it's not surprising.
The squeezeback during long-form looks interesting. I guess they're unhappy with their previous two attempts (the original L-bar and the current "L"-bar?)
I thought "squeezeback" was the technical term for the L-bar?
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I have an issue with this schedule... There seems to be a shift issue in the program they used t obuild this schedule. First Outlook doesn't air on Sundays. I'm also noticing weather classroom and sunrise weather on Friday, which should be Sunday. I think that was done in error. Also, it seems the image has changed since you posted this, as the image does not match what you posted:
([url]http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com/images/stories/r_owen/Weather_Channel_schedule.jpg[/url])
Keep in mind that at the bottom of the columns, it is for early the next morning. For example the First Outlook at the bottom of the 'Sunday' column is actually early morning Monday. The fact that the times on this schedule don't start at midnight make it confusing.
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TWC's begins morning-themed programming at 4AM, so they should start it at that time.
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So Jan 31st, i thought it was start next week because Extreme Weather Week "Deep Freeze" is coming.
And according to that schedule, Primetime Playlists of the future will feature more 1 min songs oh well :P
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By the looks of the fonts and the radar image, that looks like a mock up for the squeezeback for the Istar2. I have a feeling the Istar's will be a little different. I'll see what I can find out.
For some reason, the "squeezeback" looks like something that was used on TWC awhile ago. :thinking: I know it's a new concept, and the picture shows a mock-up, but the "design" just doesn't feel right to me. :no: Hopefully TWC will come up with something that mimics the IS2, maybe even like the "LDA" (proper term?) that is on the IS2 now.
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<_< Where's The Weather Cast When you Need it. :hammer: Unacceptable. :thumbdown:
lol I wish...
Not gonna happen. TWCast do not have any plans to come back. TWChannel continues to have better ratings.
I think he was being sarcastic...
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Article posted on http://press.weather.com/press_detail.asp?id=322 (http://press.weather.com/press_detail.asp?id=322)
The mission of TWC is to be best at covering weather, locally and across the United States. When severe weather strikes, The Weather Channel preempts original programming to continue with its award-winning live coverage of weather events as it has done successfully for many years. This is a frequent occurrence - most recently, during the lake effect snow in early December and the Christmas weekend blizzard, original programming blocks were preempted every day to continue coverage highlighted by live field reports and analysis from the severe weather expert team.
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lol. TWC is funny. They are treating this like it is some big thing. Flashy promo that sounds like its a trailer for a movie.
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7562/61374697.png)
Coming January 31
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More like Primed for Lower Ratings...
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I have to say, TWC is not Primed for Excitement, especially when it comes to longform.
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This primed stuff is stupid.. The primetime list will be screwed at any rate
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Does anyone know how long these stupid changes will last? (January 31- )
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Does anyone know how long these stupid changes will last? (January 31- )
Until the end of time. Or the end of the network. Whichever one comes first.
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More like Primed for Lower Ratings...
Doubt it. They wouldn't be doing this if they *thought* the programming would bring lower ratings. Apparently they have lower ratings if they are switching things up. Apparently longform is what people want, and no live weather. We'll see how it goes.
At least they are going to have the weather at the bottum of the screen, and updates every half hour.
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Does anyone know how long these stupid changes will last? (January 31- )
They might be stupid changes to members here but they are changes we will have to live with. all the complaining and whining won't stop TWC from distorting their image to viewers but will allow them (With NBC's Management) to continue to be an Advertising Powerhouse.
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lol. TWC is funny. They are treating this like it is some big thing. Flashy promo that sounds like its a trailer for a movie.
([url]http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7562/61374697.png[/url])
Coming January 31
TWC using all those high-tech background graphics and slogan on that promo to coax people into watching longform. :rolleyes:
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Does anyone know how long these stupid changes will last? (January 31- )
Until they pull an April 30, 2010 :whistling: Im sure though that they will preempt if needed or hopefully theyll air shows that make room for locals (doubtful but it could happen)
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Does anyone know how long these stupid changes will last? (January 31- )
Until they pull an April 30, 2010 :whistling: Im sure though that they will preempt if needed or hopefully theyll air shows that make room for locals (doubtful but it could happen)
an April 30, 2010?
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Does anyone know how long these stupid changes will last? (January 31- )
Until they pull an April 30, 2010 :whistling: Im sure though that they will preempt if needed or hopefully theyll air shows that make room for locals (doubtful but it could happen)
an April 30, 2010?
That was the night Jim Cantore was mislead into thinking preemption was bound from all those AR tornadoes
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Can someone PLEASE explain to me why the average viewer prefers long-form over live weather? I just for the life of me don't understand it. :club:
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Can someone PLEASE explain to me why the average viewer prefers long-form over live weather? I just for the life of me don't understand it. :club:
TWC and their iPads and weather.com casting spells to the viewers :bleh: :fear:
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Can someone PLEASE explain to me why the average viewer prefers long-form over live weather? I just for the life of me don't understand it. :club:
It's the corporations' way of dumbing down Americans. It's terrible that people in this country prefer this garbage over educational, informative shows that TWC showed back in the 90's. TWN up in Canada is nowhere near this bad in terms of the longform and the content the viewers want to see.
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Thank goodness for public broadcasting. Granted, that won't fill the niche that cable networks once had (in the far distant past by this point), but, still, PBS, NPR, and PRI are generally very good at avoiding the "dumbing down" process. I think kids' programs on PBS were a LOT better 20-something years ago, but maybe I'm biased. :)
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I'd laugh if TWC had to preempt regular programming the day TWC Primetime premieres.
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I'd laugh if TWC had to preempt regular programming the day TWC Primetime premieres.
Or the first week. :P That'd be nice.
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TWN up in Canada is nowhere near this bad in terms of the longform and the content the viewers want to see.
It's amazing how Americans have completely different point of views than canadians.
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Canada is lucky to have a channel like the weather network. Which they would cover united states weather as well.
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Actually, The Weather Network does cover the United States in its reports. Not as in-depth as for Canada, however, and the most emphasis is placed on cities near the Canadian border.
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This is the schedule http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/Primetime.html (http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/Primetime.html)
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According to the new schedule, Full Force Nature is back, and there will be two new shows: Weather Caught on Camera and Impact TV.
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Hmmm, a new show called "Weather Caught on Camera". And it looks like Cantore Stories may get new graphics on its theme.
Not looking forward to these changes, but, we will have to accept them.
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According to the new schedule, Full Force Nature is back, and there will be two new shows: Weather Caught on Camera and Impact TV.
Impact TV is not new...
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According to the new schedule, Full Force Nature is back, and there will be two new shows: Weather Caught on Camera and Impact TV.
Impact TV isn't that new because Adam Berg was hosting it months ago.
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I knew Impact TV was on TWC. I never watched it though, so I forgot about it.
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I knew Impact TV was on TWC. I never watched it though, so I forgot about it.
So how is it new? :wacko: :P
Anyways, i dont mind the schedule.. honestly if i wanted an LF so badly I can open up after effects :bleh: its good to see shows like FFN back :) at least it isnt repeats on FE or climate code.. but I would like to see ICHT on as well, very interesting stories :yes:
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I knew Impact TV was on TWC. I never watched it though, so I forgot about it.
So how is it new? :wacko: :P
Anyways, i dont mind the schedule.. honestly if i wanted an LF so badly I can open up after effects :bleh: its good to see shows like FFN back :) at least it isnt repeats on FE or climate code.. but I would like to see ICHT on as well, very interesting stories :yes:
I don't mind the more 2003-2007 type shows, (except for FE), but I'm really interested to see what Weather Caught on Camera is all about. Of course though, live programming is my priority.
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TWC makes TWC Primetime seem like something you should be excited about. :rolleyes: Quite frankly, I don't think I'll be.
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TWC makes TWC Primetime seem like something you should be excited about. :rolleyes: Quite frankly, I don't think I'll be.
Imagine yourself as an average joe who watches TWC for the heck of it and not as a fan.. quite honestly your perspective would be different
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TWC makes TWC Primetime seem like something you should be excited about. :rolleyes: Quite frankly, I don't think I'll be.
Imagine yourself as an average joe who watches TWC for the heck of it and not as a fan.. quite honestly your perspective would be different
And honestly, I guess it's just because I can't put myself in that position, I don't understand why the average joe would want to watch pointless crap that most of the time has NOTHING to do with even weather. :no:
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The new LOT8s squeezeback would be a sight to behold IMO. Can't wait to see it.
Well, it was tested today. Looks awesome.
I have a feeling that Weather Caught on Camera will be Peter Lik's new show. :thinking:
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i won't be surprised if TWC goes back on this "new" schedule and goes back to the current one in Summer.
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Meh, I don't watch much in the primetime anyway. It will be interesting to see how long this lasts.
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According to TWC, there will be an "ENHANCED" Local on the Eights. What in the name of Sam Hill does that mean? I mean WTF
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Enhanced how? HD? :unsure:
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Can't be. All cable headends would be forced to get the IS2
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Perhaps...
- Local LDL is coming back
- Newer and longer forecast flavors
- (BAD IDEA) Phasing out 4000, Jr, and XL (replacement w/Intellistar 1 or 2)
- Better LOT8's Graphics(?)
Just brainstorming
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Those are all FALSE (especially 2+3).
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Maybe it's more localized for us satellite viewers?
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I think it refers to the LOT8s squeezeback.
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Then I'm out of ideas. It'd be grand if they would bring the Local LDL back. Damn NBC tightwads
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Then I'm out of ideas. It'd be grand if they would bring the Local LDL back. Damn NBC tightwads
If you had an Intellistar, then you'd have a local LDL.
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Due to the potential of a major winter storm this week, I wouldn't be surprised if "Primetime TWC" is pre-empted from Monday-Thursday.
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my guess is that TWC will do Prime Time Mon and not the rest of the week to kick it off. PM Storm Stories might not happen this week.
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Here are the shows that will be airing weekdays at 6PM. From 5-6PM will still be Storm Stories.
Mondays
5:00 PM Storm Stories
5:30 PM Storm Stories
6:00 PM SeaTek
6:30 PM SeaTek
Tuesdays
5:00 PM Storm Stories
5:30 PM Storm Stories
6:00 PM Weather Proof
Wednesdays
5:00 PM Storm Stories
5:30 PM Storm Stories
6:00 PM When Weather Changed History
Thursdays
5:00 PM Storm Stories
5:30 PM Storm Stories
6:00 PM SeaTek
6:30 PM SeaTek
Fridays
5:00 PM Storm Stories
5:30 PM Storm Stories
6:00 PM When Weather Changed History
And both Zap2it and TV Guide lists Weather Center airing on weekends with the Sunday showings being from 7PM-4AM. :blink:
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Here are the shows that will be airing weekdays at 6PM. From 5-6PM will still be Storm Stories.
And both Zap2it and TV Guide lists Weather Center airing on weekends with the Sunday showings being from 7PM-4AM. :blink:
That makes a lot of sense. :rolleyes: The only forecasts will be 1 min long and not even on the 8s! :wacko:
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Its official, The Weather Channel now has more long-form programming than live.
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It was a nice network we had once...
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Now, every day, you will be hard pressed to get any live weather past 5 pm. :club: All you will have is 1 min LFs airing at random times, like :23 or :35 past the hour. TWC didn't seem to get it after the Flick and a Forecast debacle. :thumbdown: It is deliberately and arrogantly trying to become a mainstream channel. :nono:
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Coming up, Your Local Squeezebar Presented by The Weather Channel (Your Primetime Authority)
Preemption Ensues Today!
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Coming up, Your Local Squeezebar Presented by The Weather Channel (Your Primetime Authority)
Preemption Ensues Today!
LOL FAIL!
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Haha, what a waste creating those intros! :rofl:
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Cancelled Tomorrow also, Nick announced "Stay Tuned tomorrow for Extended Coverage 3-7pm ET"
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Now that the storm is ending, "Primed for Excitement" will most likely premiere tomorrow
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Now that the storm is ending, "Primed for Excitement" will most likely premiere tomorrow
I don't know...there is still a lot of aftermath to deal with. I think TWC should continue the extended coverage throughout the week and then start "Primed for Excitement" next week. :yes:
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Now that the storm is ending, "Primed for Excitement" will most likely premiere tomorrow
I don't know...there is still a lot of aftermath to deal with. I think TWC should continue the extended coverage throughout the week and then start "Primed for Excitement" next week. :yes:
There is also a new storm forming around Texas and the Gulf that will bring snow/ice to some areas far south as this past storm did.
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Now that the storm is ending, "Primed for Excitement" will most likely premiere tomorrow
I don't know...there is still a lot of aftermath to deal with. I think TWC should continue the extended coverage throughout the week and then start "Primed for Excitement" next week. :yes:
There is also a new storm forming around Texas and the Gulf that will bring snow/ice to some areas far south as this past storm did.
Yeah, more snow to an already iced-out Dallas. <_< Houston is also supposed to get some wintry precip too...not normal for them. :blink:
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Now that the storm is ending, "Primed for Excitement" will most likely premiere tomorrow
I don't know...there is still a lot of aftermath to deal with. I think TWC should continue the extended coverage throughout the week and then start "Primed for Excitement" next week. :yes:
There is also a new storm forming around Texas and the Gulf that will bring snow/ice to some areas far south as this past storm did.
Yeah, more snow to an already iced-out Dallas. <_< Houston is also supposed to get some wintry precip too...not normal for them. :blink:
Also not normal is that Southern Texas has a Winter Storm Warning.
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Friday Edition of DP is Extended again, the new schedule should premiere Monday.
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TWC is now showing promos that "Primed for Excitement" is appears weeknights at (whatever time). I'm guessing it will start next week (or perhaps tonight although that seems silly.)
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I'm thinking it will air tonight.
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Not surprised Tyler... Al was back in NYC this morning which seems things have somewhat returned to normal
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Primed For Excitement Local On The 8's TV :30 Second Spot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4udHIhqpnGs#)
Aired this morning during F1rst Outlook's 4:16am commercial break
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Primed For Excitement Local On The 8's TV :30 Second Spot ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4udHIhqpnGs#[/url])
Aired this morning during F1rst Outlook's 4:16am commercial break
OK, that looks NOTHING like the squeezeback that was in this thread (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php?topic=3564.0). Wonder how the finished product is going to look; guess we'll just have to wait and see. :thinking:
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Not surprised Tyler... Al was back in NYC this morning which seems things have somewhat returned to normal
That doesn't really mean anything in regards to primetime :dunno:
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Primed For Excitement Local On The 8's TV :30 Second Spot ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4udHIhqpnGs#[/url])
Aired this morning during F1rst Outlook's 4:16am commercial break
OK, that looks NOTHING like the squeezeback that was in this thread ([url]https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php?topic=3564.0[/url]). Wonder how the finished product is going to look; guess we'll just have to wait and see. :thinking:
That's what the IS2 puts out on TWC-HD
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Not surprised Tyler... Al was back in NYC this morning which seems things have somewhat returned to normal
That doesn't really mean anything in regards to primetime :dunno:
Right, but although it didnt air what i said was only an assumption that it would have aired seeing the reporters they had out were returning/have returned
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I'm guessing "Primed for Excitement" will air starting Monday, although who knows because there will be yet another winter storm next week. :wacko: Maybe TWC should just wait until April to do this stupid thing.
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I'm guessing "Primed for Excitement" will air starting Monday, although who knows because there will be yet another winter storm next week. :wacko: Maybe TWC should just wait until April to do this stupid thing.
By then there will be severe weather(T-storms) to cover.
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There would be no way for this to be a new LF for everybody, because that would require all cable companies to purchase or lease a new Weather/IntelliSTAR unit, and potentially switch over to offering High-Definition broadcasting only. Small-town cable companies can't do that. You require a digital receiver box for HD, as well.
NBC needs to keep their communist :censored: ing hands off of our channel.
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There would be no way for this to be a new LF for everybody, because that would require all cable companies to purchase or lease a new Weather/IntelliSTAR unit, and potentially switch over to offering High-Definition broadcasting only. Small-town cable companies can't do that. You require a digital receiver box for HD, as well.
NBC needs to keep their communist :censored: ing hands off of our channel.
You do realize the local version of this squeezeback is generated by the headend's IntelliStar, don't you? :rolleyes: Same with the IS2 on HD as well
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NBC is communist now? :rofl2:
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Intellistar Localonthe8s Squeezebar for Long Form Programming (2/5/11) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0mAegZJjro#)
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Just saw a promo for Weekend Weather Center. Seems WC will be on the weekend now.
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Will Satellite viewers see the LOCAL squeezebar? I have cable, but I was just wondering.
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Intellistar Localonthe8s Squeezebar for Long Form Programming (2/5/11) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0mAegZJjro#[/url])
I might be the only one, but I think that thing looks so ugly. The dark colors are so depressing.
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On the Satellite version,(the squeezeback forecast) the data forecast for Charleston said 61 and Partly Cloudy, and the website says it will rain? Why are they not agreeing?
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Will Satellite viewers see the LOCAL squeezebar? I have cable, but I was just wondering.
Satellite subscribers and Im assuming XL/4000/Jr viewers see the national one that was seen during the beta test
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On the Satellite version,(the squeezeback forecast) the data forecast for Charleston said 61 and Partly Cloudy, and the website says it will rain? Why are they not agreeing?
Outdated data maybe? I saw a similar thing last week where during the LF on the text part it was saying 50's and rain for Monday and Tuesday, but on the 7 day, it said 40's and rain for Monday and 40's and Cloudy for Tuesday. I don't remember the exact temps forecasted, but it was something like that.
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Will Satellite viewers see the LOCAL squeezebar? I have cable, but I was just wondering.
Satellite subscribers and Im assuming XL/4000/Jr viewers see the national one that was seen during the beta test
That makes sense, considering they already see the national LDL. It's a shame, though.
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Will Satellite viewers see the LOCAL squeezebar? I have cable, but I was just wondering.
Satellite subscribers and Im assuming XL/4000/Jr viewers see the national one that was seen during the beta test
That makes sense, considering they already see the national LDL. It's a shame, though.
I like the national LDL WAY better in the thread you posted about a week ago. :yes: This one just looks...bleh. :thumbdown:
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According to my schedule, PM Edition is still going to air from 4-5pm on weekends and that's it. Isn't that kinda silly? :blink:
Also, I still don't know why they picked Sunday night to be the all live programming night.
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According to my schedule, PM Edition is still going to air from 4-5pm on weekends and that's it. Isn't that kinda silly? :blink:
Also, I still don't know why they picked Sunday night to be the all live programming night.
Mine says WC in the same spots PME weekend aired...
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I don't get why they chose Sunday night to return to live programming, either. :dunno:
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I don't get why they chose Sunday night to return to live programming, either. :dunno:
Sunday nights, at least when I worked in TV news, had the highest ratings of the week probably because people were preparing for the week ahead. I would guess that's why they would have live programming. Probably gives the image as to having more live content than they actually do.
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I don't get why they chose Sunday night to return to live programming, either. :dunno:
Sunday nights, at least when I worked in TV news, had the highest ratings of the week probably because people were preparing for the week ahead. I would guess that's why they would have live programming. Probably gives the image as to having more live content than they actually do.
You are correct. Usually Sunday's and Monday's have the highest ratings.
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Kelly Cass and Kim Cunningham are a GREAT team! Just thought I'd say that.
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I really like that chime at the very beginning of the squeezebar. Glad to hear TWC still uses the 4-note chime.
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There would be no way for this to be a new LF for everybody, because that would require all cable companies to purchase or lease a new Weather/IntelliSTAR unit, and potentially switch over to offering High-Definition broadcasting only. Small-town cable companies can't do that. You require a digital receiver box for HD, as well.
NBC needs to keep their communist :censored: ing hands off of our channel.
You do realize the local version of this squeezeback is generated by the headend's IntelliStar, don't you? :rolleyes: Same with the IS2 on HD as well
I was referring to the post/idea of another user of a brand new LF, such as the Intellistar2
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<_< Where's The Weather Cast When you Need it. :hammer: Unacceptable. :thumbdown:
They died. Maybe we could get TWN to come to the U.S xD
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I have noticed on the squeezeback on the SD channel (with IS) the video feed is 1/3 cutoff because it doesn't squeeze back fully. The video isn't setup correctly so it doesn't fully squeeze to the video box provided and ends up cutting a good portion of the video from the screen. FAIL.
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Here are some screen shots of the SD squeezeback from my FiOS STAR.
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Mine is currently receiving the national feed for some reason (squeezeback). It looks just the same as the HD National IS.
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Mine is currently receiving the national feed for some reason (squeezeback). It looks just the same as the HD National IS.
a) You have an XL - only the IS/IS2 show locals
b) There isnt such a thing as the "HD National IS" :P
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Remember that video I posted that had my XL and the National IS? That is what I am talking about. I'll capture a video of it soon.
Also, the first several days of the squeezeback, I got the local LOT8's squeezebar, not the national.