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Title: New HD LDL
Post by: Trevor on June 04, 2010, 02:06:03 PM
Haven't seen it? Take a look!
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 04, 2010, 02:07:57 PM
is this what your talking about trevor?

(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7859/hdldl.jpg)
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: Trevor on June 04, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
 :yes: I just posted more pics.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 04, 2010, 02:14:59 PM
Wonderful shots! i wish twc used this ldl for all HD programming then viewers would be able to watch any show in 16:9 format
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: Trevor on June 04, 2010, 02:17:17 PM
We'll see when PME comes on.....it just came on at 2 PM ET..........
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: Trevor on June 04, 2010, 02:20:04 PM
Sorry for the double post, but does this mean the HD STAR is in the VERY near future?????   :thrilled:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: Jonathan on June 04, 2010, 02:28:07 PM
I see it essentially shows some of the same information as the LDA. If it's for all programming, then the LDA will be redundant.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: Trevor on June 04, 2010, 02:31:10 PM
I see it essentially shows some of the same information as the LDA. If it's for all programming, then the LDA will be redundant.

Yea.... :yes:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 04, 2010, 03:10:09 PM
I'm very confused. :wacko: What is this LDL replacing? The LDA? :unsure:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: Tyler on June 04, 2010, 03:13:21 PM
It actually debuted yesterday or the day before, I can't remember. And it seems they're only using it during long form, for now anyway.

Sorry for the double post, but does this mean the HD STAR is in the VERY near future?????   :thrilled:
They have nothing to do with each other. Two different departments handle the HD STAR and the HD national displays.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: Zach on June 04, 2010, 03:44:57 PM
Glad I saw this topic, I took a pic to post in case no one else saw it. :happy:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: joshua spisak on June 04, 2010, 06:44:19 PM
i love hd :yes: B) :happy:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 04, 2010, 07:34:13 PM
I think it would an awesome addition for all programming!

Hopefully sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 04, 2010, 10:08:10 PM
I think it would an awesome addition for all programming!

Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Yeah. :yes: Right now it seems that it is only being used on long-form, but I wish it would replace that darn LDA (I know, the LDA is useful, doesn't cover up anything, blah, blah...I still dislike it :angry:).
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Tyler on June 04, 2010, 10:18:48 PM
While I like the new LDL, I think as far as usefulness is concerned, the LDA is far more useful. It has radar, a nowcast, etc. The LDL just has current weather and a 2 day.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?!?!?!
Post by: Jonathan on June 04, 2010, 10:30:45 PM
i love hd :yes: B) :happy:

Welcome to the forums, Joshua! :)
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 05, 2010, 10:18:18 AM
While I like the new LDL, I think as far as usefulness is concerned, the LDA is far more useful. It has radar, a nowcast, etc. The LDL just has current weather and a 2 day.


Even if The LDL was to use the Radar on the bottom left side (like the LDA does) i think it would be an awesome fit.

Hopefully that is in the works Below is my take on what the LDL might look like full time.

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3822/hdradtst2.png)
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Trevor on June 05, 2010, 01:34:49 PM
 :offtopic:  Has anyone seen the HD LDA this morning? It is frozen on "Memphis", which is good for me because that's where I live. But, get this: The Kansas City, MO radar is being shown with a "Memphis" label  :blink:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Tyler on June 05, 2010, 02:53:00 PM
Even if The LDL was to use the Radar on the bottom left side (like the LDA does) i think it would be an awesome fit.

Hopefully that is in the works Below is my take on what the LDL might look like full time.

([url]http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3822/hdradtst2.png[/url])

The blank area where you put the radar  is for ads.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2010, 03:19:05 PM
No HD LDA today? What gives?
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 05, 2010, 08:41:55 PM
Is there a chance in the future that this LDL would be used for all HD programming? and take the place of the LDA?
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 05, 2010, 09:31:13 PM
Is there a chance in the future that this LDL would be used for all HD programming? and take the place of the LDA?

That's what I've been wondering. :yes: I don't like the LDA, but Tyler says it is much more useful, so TWC will take into account what the average viewer wants and likely keep it.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2010, 10:14:10 PM
Well, it's weird how the design of the long form LDL is inconsistent with the LDA. You'd think they'd aim for a uniform appearance across the board.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: TWCToday on June 05, 2010, 10:30:24 PM
Is there a chance in the future that this LDL would be used for all HD programming? and take the place of the LDA?
Probably since I doubt the HD STAR has an LDA
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: tuez13 on June 05, 2010, 11:37:34 PM
I still haven't seen this, sadly.  I think it's a step in the right direction.  Utilize the lower third of the screen with scrolling information while showing different info in the other 2/3 of the screen.  I'm VERY excited for the HDStar.  Then I can FINALLY get some use from TWC HD!
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: TWCToday on June 07, 2010, 02:00:50 AM
I still haven't seen this, sadly.  I think it's a step in the right direction.  Utilize the lower third of the screen with scrolling information while showing different info in the other 2/3 of the screen.  I'm VERY excited for the HDStar.  Then I can FINALLY get some use from TWC HD!
....the waiting is the hardest part :P
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 07, 2010, 10:04:00 AM
HD LDL Debuts on WUWA in 16:9 glory!
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: mightynine on June 07, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
Well, it's weird how the design of the long form LDL is inconsistent with the LDA. You'd think they'd aim for a uniform appearance across the board.

Right now, TWC's graphics are kind of all over the place, at least to me.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 07, 2010, 07:01:12 PM
HD LDL now debuts on WC
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 07, 2010, 07:22:24 PM
That's pretty amazing that we get to go without the LDA on the "main" shows now! I really didn't think they'd do something like this. Hopefully it's permanent.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Zach on June 07, 2010, 07:52:33 PM
PME still had the LDA/LDL combo. Other than that, it's amazing to see the full 16:9 glory on TWC HD again! :dance:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 07, 2010, 08:01:38 PM
We'll only see the new HD LDL and 16:9 picture on the "main shows": WUWA, YWT, 7pm WC, WV, and WN.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Mike M on June 07, 2010, 08:15:39 PM
We'll only see the new HD LDL and 16:9 picture on the "main shows": WUWA, YWT, 7pm WC, WV, and WN.
The way HD is supposed to be like. :happy:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Tyler on June 07, 2010, 08:22:42 PM
Once the IntelliStar2 rolls out, HD STAR viewers won't see the LDA at all. The IntelliStar2 will have a 15% and 33% LDL as the current SD IntelliStar does.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Al on June 08, 2010, 02:55:20 AM
Once the IntelliStar2 rolls out, HD STAR viewers won't see the LDA at all. The IntelliStar2 will have a 15% and 33% LDL as the current SD IntelliStar does.

is the star going to roll out to all companies that carry TWC HD, or just some? i've been a little confused on that topic.

and, how many LDL's exist on TWC, again? lol  :P
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Tyler on June 08, 2010, 03:01:04 AM
Once the IntelliStar2 rolls out, HD STAR viewers won't see the LDA at all. The IntelliStar2 will have a 15% and 33% LDL as the current SD IntelliStar does.

is the star going to roll out to all companies that carry TWC HD, or just some? i've been a little confused on that topic.

and, how many LDL's exist on TWC, again? lol  :P

Any cable company that carries TWC is required to have a STAR (as part of the carriage agreement). So, any cable company that has an SD IntelliStar now, and provides and HD feed, will  be required to have an IntelliStar2 (the HD STAR).

As for the LDLs, hmm I'm not sure. Here's the ones I can think off of the top of my head:

And then eventually the 15% and 33% LDLs when the IntelliStar2 launches.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: tuez13 on June 08, 2010, 04:11:04 AM
I still haven't seen this, sadly.  I think it's a step in the right direction.  Utilize the lower third of the screen with scrolling information while showing different info in the other 2/3 of the screen.  I'm VERY excited for the HDStar.  Then I can FINALLY get some use from TWC HD!
....the waiting is the hardest part :P

lol, ahhh Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers.  Yeah, I finally saw it.  Definitely looks schnazzier than the SD Star version.  I'm still waiting for the STARs to be updated to include the HD feed.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Al on June 08, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
has anyone noticed that with this new HD LDL the TWC Logo is not 16:9 safe? it kinda bugs me.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: mightynine on June 08, 2010, 03:44:51 PM
has anyone noticed that with this new HD LDL the TWC Logo is not 16:9 safe? it kinda bugs me.

Doesn't have to be, since you'll only see this on the HD channel.  Of course, that doesn't explain the dead space on the other side of the HD LDL.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Zach on June 08, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
has anyone noticed that with this new HD LDL the TWC Logo is not 16:9 safe? it kinda bugs me.
IIRC the HD logo is in the exact same place it's been in since the 3/11/10 graphics launch. :unsure:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 08, 2010, 03:54:29 PM
has anyone noticed that with this new HD LDL the TWC Logo is not 16:9 safe? it kinda bugs me.

Doesn't have to be, since you'll only see this on the HD channel.  Of course, that doesn't explain the dead space on the other side of the HD LDL.

The "Dead Space" on the Left side of the LDL is for as Tyler pointed out Ad space

The only Ad TWC seems to be testing is the "Wake Up With AL."
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: mightynine on June 08, 2010, 04:02:10 PM
The "Dead Space" on the Left side of the LDL is for as Tyler pointed out Ad space

The only Ad TWC seems to be testing is the "Wake Up With AL."

Which I've yet to see used on that HD LDL.

As an aside, anyone's Intellistar still out?  The one here in New Orleans (don't have the ID) has been out since last night at least.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Al on June 08, 2010, 04:42:29 PM
has anyone noticed that with this new HD LDL the TWC Logo is not 16:9 safe? it kinda bugs me.

Doesn't have to be, since you'll only see this on the HD channel.  Of course, that doesn't explain the dead space on the other side of the HD LDL.

you misread, i said 16:9 safe...not 4:3 safe. i didn't mention anything about SD.

IIRC the HD logo is in the exact same place it's been in since the 3/11/10 graphics launch. :unsure:

it definitely has shifted (for this new LDL that is), i'll try to capture a few shots. hopefully this will show what i'm talking about.

edit: based off of the pictures on the first page of this topic, it appears fine---i wonder what gives? still gonna take screen shots, and maybe play around with the settings on my tv.

the logo is safe on the LDA/5 Day Forecast combination, but with the new LDL it's off
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 08, 2010, 05:18:55 PM
Is DirecTV supposed to be getting a national Intellistar2, or are they going to remain without a Star? If they don't get a Star, what will be displayed on screen during studio programming? I don't see a way for the LDA to still exist since that's generated at TWC. If the LDA won't exist for cable viewers with an Intellistar2, surely it couldn't exist for viewers without a Star, right?
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Eric on June 08, 2010, 06:16:28 PM
Just as the SD channel has nationally-broadcast LDLs and the HD feed has nationally-broadcast LDLs and sidebars, I'm sure there will be something similar to this for viewers without an Intellistar on the HD channel once the HD Intellistar starts to be used.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Al on June 08, 2010, 07:16:18 PM
Today's PM Edition w/ LDA
http://i49.tinypic.com/rtq7p4.jpg (http://i49.tinypic.com/rtq7p4.jpg)

Weather Center w/ new HD LDL
http://i47.tinypic.com/2j69qwl.jpg (http://i47.tinypic.com/2j69qwl.jpg)

http://i46.tinypic.com/9vijao.jpg (http://i46.tinypic.com/9vijao.jpg)

is it just my tv :unsure:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Eric on June 08, 2010, 08:04:54 PM
Does something look wrong to you?
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Al on June 08, 2010, 08:25:06 PM
yeah, the logo on the new hd ldl is not 16:9 safe and the "om" in .com is cut off.

but based off of the pictures on the first page it is 16:9 safe. it was also said that the logo position hasn't changed on the HD feed, but based off of these pictures i took today...the logo shifted (on the new LDL)

i'm not really sure how to explain it...
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Zach on June 08, 2010, 08:42:04 PM
yeah, the logo on the new hd ldl is not 16:9 safe and the "om" in .com is cut off.

but based off of the pictures on the first page it is 16:9 safe. it was also said that the logo position hasn't changed on the HD feed, but based off of these pictures i took today...the logo shifted (on the new LDL)

i'm not really sure how to explain it...
It seems to just be your TV. :dunno:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 08, 2010, 08:43:34 PM
On my big HDTV in the living room it's Weather (without the .com)

but in my room it shows up normally.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: beanboy89 on June 08, 2010, 08:47:53 PM
They need to learn about overscan areas. It's just as bad on the large national SD LDL where the ".com" is cut off on most TVs.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: tuez13 on June 08, 2010, 09:22:22 PM
I noticed that as well...and it's only on the new LDL.  The old logos (both SD and HD) were in the right location but the new logos are too far to the right and get cut off.  TWC should have kept the HD LDL that is used on the LOT8s.  It's cleaner, it has pertinent information, fits with TWC's graphic set and it just looks good.  *shrug*
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 08, 2010, 09:33:47 PM
They should find a place to add a clock, IMO. Maybe under the ad or somewhere near the TWC logo?
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Zach on June 08, 2010, 09:54:00 PM
They need to learn about overscan areas. It's just as bad on the large national SD LDL where the ".com" is cut off on most TVs.
The "m" in ".com" is cut off on both SD LDLs on my TV.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 09, 2010, 05:03:27 AM
Uhhh...wtf? They're displaying a Storm Stories ad in the corner on top of the LDA's radar. Is this a simple mistake, or is this a sign of changes ahead?

I'm guessing it's just a simple mistake given that the language around here suggests that nothing is going to change in the immediate future, but it's worth speculating. :P
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 09, 2010, 05:17:40 PM
I really need to start watching channel 245 again. Always leave my tuner on channel 36, by force of habit :P

What times have people seen the new LDL? I need to see it on my tuner (no HDTVs in the house). As for the ad, it sounds like a mistake to me too, but again, I haven't watched TWC [HD] much lately.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 09, 2010, 05:25:45 PM
I really need to start watching channel 245 again. Always leave my tuner on channel 36, by force of habit :P

What times have people seen the new LDL? I need to see it on my tuner (no HDTVs in the house). As for the ad, it sounds like a mistake to me too, but again, I haven't watched TWC [HD] much lately.

You'll see it during long form and these shows WUWA, YWT, 7pm WC, WV, and WN.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: TWCToday on June 09, 2010, 10:02:11 PM
Overscan 101
http://hd.engadget.com/2010/05/27/hd-101-overscan-and-why-all-tvs-do-it/ (http://hd.engadget.com/2010/05/27/hd-101-overscan-and-why-all-tvs-do-it/)

Thankfully my TV isnt too bad with it
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 10, 2010, 11:06:19 AM
No LDA or LDL for the first segment of Day Planner today. A blank black LDA just turned on during the commercials.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 10, 2010, 11:38:17 AM
This is like most new technology when it comes out. Modifications will be made as bugs are ironed out. I agree that the LDL that is already on the HD LF should be used "channel-wide", if you know what I mean, but I think the one that is used during programming is fine. Just needs a clock.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: tuez13 on June 11, 2010, 03:13:40 AM
+1 for clock.  Why have they been forgetting about this in recent history??  A clock has been in TWC programming since I can remember in some shape or form.  I still wish they would have stayed with the LDL that is currently used for the LOT8s...with a couple modifications to show currents for cities and such.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: curtjr4 on June 11, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
The clock has been a thing since the launch. It was used on the first Star, but, that's just old TWC. They are simply cutting corners nowadays for ad space or other stuff. But I dont see why they wont insert a simple clock :pinch:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Al on June 12, 2010, 05:27:58 PM
so...any reason why PM Edition Weekend gets the new LDL, and the weekday edition doesn't  :club:

BLAH. lol
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Zach on June 12, 2010, 05:29:11 PM
so...any reason why PM Edition Weekend gets the new LDL, and the weekday edition doesn't  :club:

BLAH. lol
This is the long form schedule. :yes:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Al on June 12, 2010, 05:30:30 PM
so...any reason why PM Edition Weekend gets the new LDL, and the weekday edition doesn't  :club:

BLAH. lol
This is the long form schedule. :yes:

yeah, i just figured that out as they just mentioned it on TWC. haha oops
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Zach on June 13, 2010, 10:56:37 AM
so...any reason why PM Edition Weekend gets the new LDL, and the weekday edition doesn't  :club:

BLAH. lol

This is the long form schedule. :yes:


yeah, i just figured that out as they just mentioned it on TWC. haha oops

Hey Al, I just looked on my TV and saw it indeed shifted. In fact, it's worse on my TV than yours. :pinch:

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5680/dsc00088lt.th.jpg) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/dsc00088lt.jpg/) (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1714/dsc00089q.th.jpg) (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/dsc00089q.jpg/)
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 13, 2010, 11:03:49 PM
Looks like TWC finally removed the LDA on PME Weekend

I'm seeing the Small LDL right now.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 13, 2010, 11:11:31 PM
Odd, the screen was scrunched from 16:9 to 4:3 on PME just now. Looks like they still haven't completely ironed out the LDA.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 13, 2010, 11:43:18 PM
Odd, the screen was scrunched from 16:9 to 4:3 on PME just now. Looks like they still haven't completely ironed out the LDA.

Seems to be full 16:9 now!
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 14, 2010, 04:51:13 AM
http://i.imagehost.org/view/0531/2010-06-14_03_04_17 (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0531/2010-06-14_03_04_17)

Has the LDA met its demise? A blank black LDA keeps automatically triggering at the start of every segment, but they immediately remove it in lieu of using the new HD LDL with full 16:9 picture.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 14, 2010, 05:01:28 AM
Nope, false alarm. The LDA returned for the second hour of FO. It must have been broken all last hour.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 14, 2010, 01:44:07 PM
So is the LDA only used now when the big LDL is on SD? :dunno: I wish they would trash it all together. :yes:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: TWCToday on June 14, 2010, 07:12:50 PM
So is the LDA only used now when the big LDL is on SD? :dunno: I wish they would trash it all together. :yes:
They most likely will soon.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Tyler on June 14, 2010, 08:01:07 PM
Actually, it won't. I have learned that the LDA will continue to show (during programming that uses the 33% LDL) even with the HD STAR's 33% LDL (so you will see the left strip of data, not the bottom 5 day forecasts).
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Mike M on June 14, 2010, 08:55:03 PM
Actually, it won't. I have learned that the LDA will continue to show (during programming that uses the 33% LDL) even with the HD STAR's 33% LDL (so you will see the left strip of data, not the bottom 5 day forecasts).
Makes sense so you can see national forecast data in addition to local data. :yes:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Tyler on June 14, 2010, 09:00:53 PM
I think it's stupid. Once I have local info, I don't care what the weather for the next 6 hours in Dallas.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 14, 2010, 09:05:09 PM
If anything, why didn't they engineer the HD Star to display local info in the LDA?
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Eric on June 14, 2010, 09:34:16 PM
Actually, it won't. I have learned that the LDA will continue to show (during programming that uses the 33% LDL) even with the HD STAR's 33% LDL (so you will see the left strip of data, not the bottom 5 day forecasts).

I like that idea.  Now... we just have to wait for the HD Intellistar to come out... and for cable companies to actually start using it!
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Mike M on June 14, 2010, 09:47:21 PM
I think it's stupid. Once I have local info, I don't care what the weather for the next 6 hours in Dallas.
Those who are traveling would though.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 14, 2010, 10:25:04 PM
I think it's stupid. Once I have local info, I don't care what the weather for the next 6 hours in Dallas.

Don't be hating on Dallas, Tyler. :club: :P

So let me get this straight...HD will soon have a "big"local LDL that will be shown WITH an only national LDA?  And a "small" local LDL will be shown alone with no LDA?

TOO CONFUSING!!! :wacko:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 16, 2010, 11:00:08 AM
Day Planner now has the HD LDL

EDIT: SD also using small LDL so i guess DP is now a 16:9 show with no more LDA
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 16, 2010, 05:43:42 PM
It's just for severe weather coverage. They've done this every day that there's been severe weather.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: TWCToday on June 17, 2010, 12:32:07 AM
Actually, it won't. I have learned that the LDA will continue to show (during programming that uses the 33% LDL) even with the HD STAR's 33% LDL (so you will see the left strip of data, not the bottom 5 day forecasts).
Thats got to be about THE DUMBEST thing I have heard of. Does TWC give a crap anymore about the quality of their on air presentation with the ldls? Its bad enough the alert scrolls still go over and our very obvious with the 33% ldl. ~facepalm~
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: curtjr4 on June 17, 2010, 12:37:24 AM
Actually, it won't. I have learned that the LDA will continue to show (during programming that uses the 33% LDL) even with the HD STAR's 33% LDL (so you will see the left strip of data, not the bottom 5 day forecasts).
Thats got to be about THE DUMBEST thing I have heard of. Does TWC give a crap anymore about the quality of their on air presentation with the ldls? Its bad enough the alert scrolls still go over and our very obvious with the 33% ldl. ~facepalm~
I couldn't have said that any better... TWC is really starting to annoy me now just for those reasons. Now I am happy to not even get the HD feed.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 17, 2010, 10:00:21 AM
Well this is odd... Notify! ad on the Intellistar LDL, yet a WUWA ad on the HD feed.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Tyler on June 17, 2010, 10:10:32 AM
They're two completely different ad systems, so unless it's a paid sponsor ad, it's not really important that they match.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 17, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
Well this is odd... Notify! ad on the Intellistar LDL, yet a WUWA ad on the HD feed.

Yeah, the ads hardly ever match, and that really doesn't bother me. :no:

I have a question about the LDL in general, though: is it "cued" by the STAR or some "control" at TWC? :dunno: Because on some weather.com segments, you can see the LDL...I don't remember ever seeing the blue one on weather.com segments. :no:
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Mike M on June 17, 2010, 03:04:16 PM
That's because the national LDL is no longer cued by a STAR, but by the control room. As such, it's glued to the screen and will show on the weather.com segments.
Title: Re: New HD LDL?
Post by: Trevor on June 18, 2010, 09:30:25 AM
**MODERATOR**

Can you please change the topic name to just New HD LDL (without the question mark)? Or at least something simular? I think we know that there is a new LDL, and that it's not a question anymore.

Thanks!  B)
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 18, 2010, 11:03:45 AM
HD LDL on for special coverage today but weirdly on SD its the Big LDL  :wacko:
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2010, 12:33:16 PM
HD LDL on for special coverage today but weirdly on SD its the Big LDL  :wacko:

My guess is that it gives HD viewers the chance to see a bigger picture.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: beanboy89 on June 18, 2010, 01:08:04 PM
HD LDL on for special coverage today but weirdly on SD its the Big LDL  :wacko:

My guess is that it gives HD viewers the chance to see a bigger picture.
It's a "special coverage" day. The small LDL is supposed to be showing, but network control doesn't realize that, and is cuing the large IS LDL over the small national LDL/L3rds.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: TWCToday on June 18, 2010, 04:44:08 PM
I am amazed how nice TWC looks in its intended 16:9 ratio. Finally!
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 18, 2010, 05:16:16 PM
I don't want to sound technologically uneducated, but why does everything in HD have to be 16:9? I don't understand why you can't have 4:3 HD programming.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2010, 05:27:44 PM
I don't want to sound technologically uneducated, but why does everything in HD have to be 16:9? I don't understand why you can't have 4:3 HD programming.

You could, and HD stations actually do broadcast a good amount of 4:3 programming - some commercials and older programs that weren't made in widescreen format.

However, 4:3 programming on an HD television leaves black bars (called "pillarboxing") on the left and right of the screen.  Some people don't like letterboxing (black bars on the top and bottom of their standard definition TV screen), and some people don't like pillarboxing.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: jtmal0723 on June 18, 2010, 07:35:36 PM
I don't want to sound technologically uneducated, but why does everything in HD have to be 16:9? I don't understand why you can't have 4:3 HD programming.
With the LDA on, it essentially IS 4:3 HD programming, in a sense anyway.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Tyler on June 18, 2010, 10:30:41 PM
IIRC, CNBC-HD+ uses 4:3 HD programming all the time because they use the right wing area (similar to TWC's LDA) for current stock updates, etc.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 18, 2010, 10:46:07 PM
ESPNews also uses a type of LDA like TWC and shrinks the programming to a 16:9 feel
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Jake on June 19, 2010, 01:38:46 AM
The "forecast update" at 1:30am EDT, before long form programming was in 16:9 format on the SD channel..
has anyone noticed this before, Its a first to me..

and sorry its kinda off topic.  :happy:
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Zach on June 19, 2010, 01:50:02 AM
I haven't had time to see MSNBC HD because it just got added to DirecTV last month, and pretty much all news stations except Fox News (who actually letterboxes their SD feed these days) and CNN have 4:3 HD feeds to display extra info. NFL Network HD sometimes does this concept, although they actually shrink the screen more to have a full 16:9 display.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 01, 2010, 06:24:07 PM
Noticed This Error @ 6:00pm EDT yesterday for a split second (HD) Looks to be a new 30-33% LDL
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Eric on July 01, 2010, 07:14:28 PM
Noticed This Error @ 6:00pm EDT yesterday for a split second (HD) Looks to be a new 30-33% LDL

Actually, I like this "error" very much!
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 01, 2010, 10:35:16 PM
Interesting. So now I guess HD viewers will soon get an LDL with info. relating to their STAR. :yes:
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 02, 2010, 04:35:07 AM
No HD LDL or LDA at all on FO today. The blank LDA box keeps sliding in at the start of every segment, but they quickly remove it. Now, at the bottom of the hour, this appeared:

(http://h.imagehost.org/t/0468/2010-07-02_03_31_00.jpg) (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0468/2010-07-02_03_31_00)
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: beanboy89 on July 02, 2010, 07:58:06 AM
No HD LDL or LDA at all on FO today. The blank LDA box keeps sliding in at the start of every segment, but they quickly remove it. Now, at the bottom of the hour, this appeared:

([url]http://h.imagehost.org/t/0468/2010-07-02_03_31_00.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://h.imagehost.org/view/0468/2010-07-02_03_31_00[/url])

What's up with the blacked out version of the old TWC HD logo bug?
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Mike M on July 02, 2010, 10:30:30 AM
The death of TWC HD? :bleh:
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 02, 2010, 01:43:33 PM
The death of TWC HD? :bleh:
LOL I was thinking about that too..
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: TWCToday on July 02, 2010, 05:06:38 PM
Its called Fail Outlook. :P
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 10, 2010, 06:08:36 AM
Updated pictures

Hopefully this premieres in the near future.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 10, 2010, 06:59:55 AM
Just to clarify, you photoshopped the LDL in, right? I have a feeling that it really didn't air when those pics were taken... Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 10, 2010, 09:42:37 AM
Just to clarify, you photoshopped the LDL in, right? I have a feeling that it really didn't air when those pics were taken... Correct me if I'm wrong.
He doesn't have Photoshop on his PC, I've asked Alex that question numerous times myself :P
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 10, 2010, 10:51:14 AM
Just to clarify, you photoshopped the LDL in, right? I have a feeling that it really didn't air when those pics were taken... Correct me if I'm wrong.

I Photoshopped it in just hoping to show what it might look like in the future.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 10, 2010, 11:43:14 AM
Just to clarify, you photoshopped the LDL in, right? I have a feeling that it really didn't air when those pics were taken... Correct me if I'm wrong.

I Ms-painted them in just hoping to show what it might look like in the future.
yus that's what I thought xD
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Jonathan on July 10, 2010, 03:45:32 PM
Just to clarify, you photoshopped the LDL in, right? I have a feeling that it really didn't air when those pics were taken... Correct me if I'm wrong.

I Ms-painted them in just hoping to show what it might look like in the future.
yus that's what I thought xD

For future reference: the term "photoshopped" generally means the image was somehow doctored...not that the person actually has Photoshop.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 18, 2010, 11:10:13 AM
I wonder if the new HD LDL that i posted would be used soon.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 18, 2010, 11:22:22 AM
Did it appear only during beta testing?
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 18, 2010, 11:38:05 AM
Did it appear only during beta testing?

Either that or it just popped up by mistake.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Zach on August 18, 2010, 12:10:48 PM
That 33% LDL should be used cuz the LDA/LDL combo has been freezing too much and im sure normal viewers can notice it getting stuck. The LDA prior to March 11th never or hardly had these issues
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 18, 2010, 12:25:16 PM
That 33% LDL should be used cuz the LDA/LDL combo has been freezing too much and im sure normal viewers can notice it getting stuck. The LDA prior to March 11th never or hardly had these issues

Plus it would make alot of sense to do that and not see a huge bar shrinking the screen on the left side of the HDTV
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 18, 2010, 03:06:30 PM
I think I saw that blank LDL once before. I didn't realize it was on the HD feed...it looks just like the 33% SD LDL. :yes:

Anyway, I would much rather them use that than the stupid LDA that ALWAYS gets stuck. :rolleyes: Does TWC even know it's doing that? :wacko:
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Zach on August 18, 2010, 03:19:41 PM
The LDA runs on Viz which can often mess up such as putting out blank data and the freezing kinda reminds me of the national squeezeback version that was used from late 2008 to mid 2009 (which i think also ran on Viz) having a hard time fading cities to cities (you can notice below)

The Weather Channel- National LBar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3jc7htaZLY#)

EDIT: The squeezeback was not run on Viz. Confirmed over an IM.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 18, 2010, 03:48:15 PM
I think I saw that blank LDL once before. I didn't realize it was on the HD feed...it looks just like the 33% SD LDL. :yes:

Anyway, I would much rather them use that than the stupid LDA that ALWAYS gets stuck. :rolleyes: Does TWC even know it's doing that? :wacko:


yep it looks way better than the SD 33% LDL

New Bedford, MA Local Forecast: 7/22/10 Narration Failure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SNaZO8OU3M#)

Towards the end of the video
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 04, 2010, 03:28:42 PM
Looks like the unidentified HD LDL showed up during a SS promo today @ 3:17pm EDT
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 04, 2010, 06:50:11 PM
Seems the LDL cues during the 8's during longform

The L-Bar has Returned!
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: WeatherWitness on October 05, 2010, 06:54:50 PM
Interesting! :thrilled: Maybe this is why the large LDL had not been showing for awhile on SD.

I'm not quite clear, though, on the use of this new HD 33% LDL. I didn't think a large LDL would be used during long-form. :thinking: What I would hope for though is complete discontinuation of the LDA.
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Zach on October 05, 2010, 07:01:21 PM
Interesting! :thrilled: Maybe this is why the large LDL had not been showing for awhile on SD.

I'm not quite clear, though, on the use of this new HD 33% LDL. I didn't think a large LDL would be used during long-form. :thinking: What I would hope for though is complete discontinuation of the LDA.
This is just me but i doubt anything since 2008 has been discontinued from TWC.. It could still be in their systems even if it wasnt to be aired unless a miscue happened  :P

(OT but relevant to my above statement as a thought and observation) In a nutshell i think the blue LDLs with multiple tabs used outside the LF could make a rare appearance, or DirecTV gaining their LF LDL back (the one that only has a NOW tab and loops the 40-city CC's), and stuff such as the return of the old TWC HD bug earlier this year, some Viz graphics displaying the 2006-2010 icons, and better yet, when Weekend Outlook was still around, in its first few weeks intros from 2003-05 were used on air  :yes:
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 11, 2010, 06:09:39 PM
The Weather Channel HD Local On The 8's Forecast Line (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFX-hOhgQec#ws)
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 20, 2011, 01:59:52 PM
I have to admit I love the new LDL. I love the sleek and shiny appearance that the colors have. But with all this talk of the LDL, I have to wonder, did HD viewers see any overlay (LDL) on programming before the LDA came out in April or May 2009?
Title: Re: New HD LDL
Post by: Zach on January 20, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
I have to admit I love the new LDL. I love the sleek and shiny appearance that the colors have. But with all this talk of the LDL, I have to wonder, did HD viewers see any overlay (LDL) on programming before the LDA came out in April or May 2009?
No. From September 2008 until the LDAs launch, a TWC |HD| logo appeared and prior to that (since Ive been a viewer of TWC HD), the TWC logo appeared just like the SD one in the same place as the SD one and disappeared just like the SD one, however the weather.com text was absent on the HD feed below the logo