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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2013, 07:13:49 PM »
What does this mean?  The only actual meteorologist-on-camera-talking-about-weather segments will be these new meteorologist-hosted "Local on the 8s," and the rest of TWC's programming day will be longform that's barely related to weather in the first place?!?! :club:

No, no.  I don't think so.  :no: 

I think the quote Alex posted means that we're no longer going to see a LOT8s like we're used to - that is, alternating screens with narration and background music.  From how that quote was worded, I agree with Trevor in that the new LOT8s will be like that YouTube video from Tyler.  In fact, you know how they have those short videos on weather.com for select local cities with an OCM?  The "Focus Forecasts?"  I bet the new LOT8s will be just like that.  AccuWeather does this too.  Now I don't know how logistics will work with that, because they can't record a new video for every single city within 10 minutes, so the information might not be that local.  IDK. :wacko:  There's still to much vagueness right now to tell. 

Another idea, probably more reasonable, is that all LOT8s will now be the L-Bar/squeezeback with an OCM giving a live weather update.

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2013, 07:59:59 PM »
Haha, TWC just wasted tons of money on the IS2 deployment only for the LOT8s to be scrapped.  :rofl2:

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2013, 08:29:12 PM »
Lol why don't they just rename the whole channel while they are at it. Like how they're renaming G4 As the Esquire network  <_<

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2013, 09:06:32 PM »
Haha, TWC just wasted tons of money on the IS2 deployment only for the LOT8s to be scrapped.  :rofl2:

That's what gets to me, too.  The IS2 can't have been cheap, it's beautiful, has lots of potential, and yet TWC is reducing it to its barest form because they don't want to show local forecasts anymore.

Man, do I really miss the classic days of The Weather Channel right about now.  I miss it so much it actually hurts.

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2013, 09:18:34 PM »
If TWC really wants to show more weather information why don't they bring the LDA back?

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2013, 09:35:47 PM »
I agree.  I know I'm in a minority when I say the LDA (with or without sidebar) is something I enjoyed when it debuted.  It provided SO much more information than the standard LDL.  Unfortunately, too many people complained that it made the video portion of the screen too small and "unimportant."

Given the importance TWC places on live weather programming these days, I wonder how many people would change their opinions to have more information in the LDA again...

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2013, 10:12:59 PM »
Wow, I thought I was the only one who liked the LDA! :o I really liked how they had different LDA/LDL formats based on time of day too.

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2013, 10:21:18 PM »
If only they would show the regular LDL during live programming and the LDA during long-form. :P

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2013, 10:47:39 PM »
If TWC is going to eliminate full screen LOT8s for IS and IS2 viewers, they would also have to think about adding new LDLs and squeezebacks for legacy STAR units that are still in use by some cable headends  :hmm:  Otherwise, XL, 4000 and Junior viewers won't be able to see their local weather anymore.
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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2013, 11:13:14 PM »
If TWC is going to eliminate full screen LOT8s for IS and IS2 viewers, they would also have to think about adding new LDLs and squeezebacks for legacy STAR units that are still in use by some cable headends  :hmm:  Otherwise, XL, 4000 and Junior viewers won't be able to see their local weather anymore.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's ever going to happen.  TWC likely isn't interested in supporting new updates to technology that's, in some cases, approaching 20 years old.  The best they could do for the 4000 and the Jr., for example, would be an ugly opaque LDL, and I can't even imagine how they'd do a squeezeback for it.

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2013, 12:06:17 AM »
I agree.  I know I'm in a minority when I say the LDA (with or without sidebar) is something I enjoyed when it debuted.  It provided SO much more information than the standard LDL.  Unfortunately, too many people complained that it made the video portion of the screen too small and "unimportant."

Given the importance TWC places on live weather programming these days, I wonder how many people would change their opinions to have more information in the LDA again...

My opinion hasn't and won't change either way. I hate LDAs on any HD channel, it really takes away from the fact that you're looking at an HD channel when you have all that crap up there. Too much information is just as bad as too little information. An LDL will suffice just fine imo.


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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2013, 12:37:34 AM »
An LDL will suffice just fine imo.

For space, maybe.  But for information... that's a different story.  The Weather Channel SHOULD have actual weather information.  The less there is in programming, the more there should be with LDL/LDA.

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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2013, 01:07:49 AM »
An LDL will suffice just fine imo.

For space, maybe.  But for information... that's a different story.  The Weather Channel SHOULD have actual weather information.  The less there is in programming, the more there should be with LDL/LDA.

My post is mainly speaking for those who have the IS2. I believe that LDL provides plenty of information that most folks would want to see and need for multiple locations in one area. (unless you also want to see a radar up on screen like on the 33% LDL) Unfortunately for those w/ legacy STARs you're out of luck because TWC isn't going to back track to accommodate them.  :no:

I agree with Andy that the LDA would be fine for taped programming, that's the only plausible way I would be ok with the idea of it being used. I just don't like the concept of it during live programming, I believe all of that information cluttering the screen would be distracting and can easily be condensed to an LDL format.


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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2013, 06:16:14 AM »
Looks like the phasing out has already started

The Weather Classroom K Flavor at 4:18am and L Flavor at 4:28am have been replaced with 1 min flavors.

Weather Classroom K and L/M Flavors eliminated


My opinion hasn't and won't change either way. I hate LDAs on any HD channel, it really takes away from the fact that you're looking at an HD channel when you have all that crap up there. Too much information is just as bad as too little information. An LDL will suffice just fine imo.


CNBC uses an LDA type for information and their screen is small.

but the average viewer doesn't care about a full screen HD channel, they want to be able to enjoy all the content a network has to offer.

in TWC's case the LDA is the best option (Large LDL during live programming and LDA during Long Form Programming).
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Re: New Graphics coming to TWC
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2013, 10:08:10 AM »
Agree to disagree I suppose. I still think the LDA is a terrible idea and CNBC just made the perfect case for it.That's 100x worse than the LDA TWC had. Where do you even begin to focus your eyes at what information? :dunno:


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