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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => Programming and Graphics => Topic started by: IceManNYR on April 03, 2013, 04:20:47 PM
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http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-planning-major-programming-technical-revamp-this-year_b173529 (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-planning-major-programming-technical-revamp-this-year_b173529)
An interesting note from the TWC Upfront today,
"Aside from the programming, the biggest change viewers will see is the graphics packages, which are being redesigned to be consistent across all of the Weather Company platforms, including Weather.com and the Weather app. The new TV graphics bear a striking resemblance to the graphics found on the website and app. Local weather and information will always be on-screen, at least in the morning, when so many viewers tune in to the channel."
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[url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-planning-major-programming-technical-revamp-this-year_b173529[/url] ([url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-planning-major-programming-technical-revamp-this-year_b173529[/url])
An interesting note from the TWC Upfront today,
"Aside from the programming, the biggest change viewers will see is the graphics packages, which are being redesigned to be consistent across all of the Weather Company platforms, including Weather.com and the Weather app. The new TV graphics bear a striking resemblance to the graphics found on the website and app. Local weather and information will always be on-screen, at least in the morning, when so many viewers tune in to the channel."
So basically TWC SD and HD is going to have an LDL upgrade?
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How many times have we been told this, only to have it turn out as a lie or something TWC doesn't feel is important enough to focus on? :rolleyes:
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It's best we take a wait-and-see approach here. As Andy hinted, I can recall a few rumored graphics updates only to be shown minor tweaks if anything. They're certainly due for a new overhaul just based on time alone with their current packages, but I won't believe it until I see it.
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Here's from the NYT (http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/03/weather-channels-challenge-predictable-programming-for-advertisers/)
For instance, there will be a revamping of the forecasts known as “Local on the 8s,” Mr. Clark said, and a customization of coverage so that while viewers in markets affected by severe local weather are watching coverage of that news, viewers in other, unaffected markets will be able to continue watching regular programming.
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Here's from the NYT ([url]http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/03/weather-channels-challenge-predictable-programming-for-advertisers/[/url])
For instance, there will be a revamping of the forecasts known as “Local on the 8s,” Mr. Clark said, and a customization of coverage so that while viewers in markets affected by severe local weather are watching coverage of that news, viewers in other, unaffected markets will be able to continue watching regular programming.
Simply put, the "dual feed." :P
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Here's from the NYT ([url]http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/03/weather-channels-challenge-predictable-programming-for-advertisers/[/url])
For instance, there will be a revamping of the forecasts known as “Local on the 8s,” Mr. Clark said, and a customization of coverage so that while viewers in markets affected by severe local weather are watching coverage of that news, viewers in other, unaffected markets will be able to continue watching regular programming.
Simply put, the "dual feed." :P
Whatever happened to it? Did they cancel the dual feed, because I remember them airing the feed earlier in 2010.
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Local weather and information will always be on-screen
Looks like TWC is going to become like ESPN and Comcast SportsNet but with the LDL on 24/7.
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Local weather and information will always be on-screen
Looks like TWC is going to become like ESPN and Comcast SportsNet but with the LDL on 24/7.
I'd call for your tongue to be cut out for saying such a thing... except that it's probably true. :cry:
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but does a 24/7 LDL mean that the full-screen LOT8s will be eliminated? :unsure:
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Here's from the NYT ([url]http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/03/weather-channels-challenge-predictable-programming-for-advertisers/[/url])
For instance, there will be a revamping of the forecasts known as “Local on the 8s,” Mr. Clark said, and a customization of coverage so that while viewers in markets affected by severe local weather are watching coverage of that news, viewers in other, unaffected markets will be able to continue watching regular programming.
Simply put, the "dual feed." :P
Whatever happened to it? Did they cancel the dual feed, because I remember them airing the feed earlier in 2010.
IIRC, the dual-feed was discontinued when the live weather updates were introduced.
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I found the information on TWC's Press Page (http://press.weather.com/press-releases/weather-channel-announces-2013-14-programming-slate-new-vide/)
Additionally, Clark announced a complete refresh of the network’s “Local on the 8s,” localized forecasts that appear every 10 minutes at :08, :18, :28, etc. The new “LOT8s” will feature on-camera meteorologists with more locally relevant forecasts.
RIP Localonthe8s <_<
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I found the information on TWC's Press Page ([url]http://press.weather.com/press-releases/weather-channel-announces-2013-14-programming-slate-new-vide/[/url])
Additionally, Clark announced a complete refresh of the network’s “Local on the 8s,” localized forecasts that appear every 10 minutes at :08, :18, :28, etc. The new “LOT8s” will feature on-camera meteorologists with more locally relevant forecasts.
RIP Localonthe8s <_<
IF it happens, which we don't know yet until we see it. The death of the local forecasts was bound to happen. Wasn't it just a few years ago that we believed TWC would cease to exist without LOT8s? Well, with the novelty of phones and the internet, there isn't much use for LOT8s anymore.
Just terrible to see what a waste the IS2 has become due to this. at least it means no more vocals
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I found the information on TWC's Press Page ([url]http://press.weather.com/press-releases/weather-channel-announces-2013-14-programming-slate-new-vide/[/url])
Additionally, Clark announced a complete refresh of the network’s “Local on the 8s,” localized forecasts that appear every 10 minutes at :08, :18, :28, etc. The new “LOT8s” will feature on-camera meteorologists with more locally relevant forecasts.
RIP Localonthe8s <_<
Who knows, the way they phrased it, especially "more relevant forecasts", makes me immediately think of this. Maybe they're bringing this back with some changes?
Expanded Local on the 8s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ydK2_mf3A#)
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What does this mean? The only actual meteorologist-on-camera-talking-about-weather segments will be these new meteorologist-hosted "Local on the 8s," and the rest of TWC's programming day will be longform that's barely related to weather in the first place?!?! :club:
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What does this mean? The only actual meteorologist-on-camera-talking-about-weather segments will be these new meteorologist-hosted "Local on the 8s," and the rest of TWC's programming day will be longform that's barely related to weather in the first place?!?! :club:
No, no. I don't think so. :no:
I think the quote Alex posted means that we're no longer going to see a LOT8s like we're used to - that is, alternating screens with narration and background music. From how that quote was worded, I agree with Trevor in that the new LOT8s will be like that YouTube video from Tyler. In fact, you know how they have those short videos on weather.com for select local cities with an OCM? The "Focus Forecasts?" I bet the new LOT8s will be just like that. AccuWeather does this too. Now I don't know how logistics will work with that, because they can't record a new video for every single city within 10 minutes, so the information might not be that local. IDK. :wacko: There's still to much vagueness right now to tell.
Another idea, probably more reasonable, is that all LOT8s will now be the L-Bar/squeezeback with an OCM giving a live weather update.
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Haha, TWC just wasted tons of money on the IS2 deployment only for the LOT8s to be scrapped. :rofl2:
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Lol why don't they just rename the whole channel while they are at it. Like how they're renaming G4 As the Esquire network <_<
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Haha, TWC just wasted tons of money on the IS2 deployment only for the LOT8s to be scrapped. :rofl2:
That's what gets to me, too. The IS2 can't have been cheap, it's beautiful, has lots of potential, and yet TWC is reducing it to its barest form because they don't want to show local forecasts anymore.
Man, do I really miss the classic days of The Weather Channel right about now. I miss it so much it actually hurts.
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If TWC really wants to show more weather information why don't they bring the LDA back?
New HD LDL/Sidebar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4vN7v205MI#ws)
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I agree. I know I'm in a minority when I say the LDA (with or without sidebar) is something I enjoyed when it debuted. It provided SO much more information than the standard LDL. Unfortunately, too many people complained that it made the video portion of the screen too small and "unimportant."
Given the importance TWC places on live weather programming these days, I wonder how many people would change their opinions to have more information in the LDA again...
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Wow, I thought I was the only one who liked the LDA! :o I really liked how they had different LDA/LDL formats based on time of day too.
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If only they would show the regular LDL during live programming and the LDA during long-form. :P
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If TWC is going to eliminate full screen LOT8s for IS and IS2 viewers, they would also have to think about adding new LDLs and squeezebacks for legacy STAR units that are still in use by some cable headends :hmm: Otherwise, XL, 4000 and Junior viewers won't be able to see their local weather anymore.
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If TWC is going to eliminate full screen LOT8s for IS and IS2 viewers, they would also have to think about adding new LDLs and squeezebacks for legacy STAR units that are still in use by some cable headends :hmm: Otherwise, XL, 4000 and Junior viewers won't be able to see their local weather anymore.
Unfortunately, I don't think that's ever going to happen. TWC likely isn't interested in supporting new updates to technology that's, in some cases, approaching 20 years old. The best they could do for the 4000 and the Jr., for example, would be an ugly opaque LDL, and I can't even imagine how they'd do a squeezeback for it.
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I agree. I know I'm in a minority when I say the LDA (with or without sidebar) is something I enjoyed when it debuted. It provided SO much more information than the standard LDL. Unfortunately, too many people complained that it made the video portion of the screen too small and "unimportant."
Given the importance TWC places on live weather programming these days, I wonder how many people would change their opinions to have more information in the LDA again...
My opinion hasn't and won't change either way. I hate LDAs on any HD channel, it really takes away from the fact that you're looking at an HD channel when you have all that crap up there. Too much information is just as bad as too little information. An LDL will suffice just fine imo.
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An LDL will suffice just fine imo.
For space, maybe. But for information... that's a different story. The Weather Channel SHOULD have actual weather information. The less there is in programming, the more there should be with LDL/LDA.
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An LDL will suffice just fine imo.
For space, maybe. But for information... that's a different story. The Weather Channel SHOULD have actual weather information. The less there is in programming, the more there should be with LDL/LDA.
My post is mainly speaking for those who have the IS2. I believe that LDL provides plenty of information that most folks would want to see and need for multiple locations in one area. (unless you also want to see a radar up on screen like on the 33% LDL) Unfortunately for those w/ legacy STARs you're out of luck because TWC isn't going to back track to accommodate them. :no:
I agree with Andy that the LDA would be fine for taped programming, that's the only plausible way I would be ok with the idea of it being used. I just don't like the concept of it during live programming, I believe all of that information cluttering the screen would be distracting and can easily be condensed to an LDL format.
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Looks like the phasing out has already started
The Weather Classroom K Flavor at 4:18am and L Flavor at 4:28am have been replaced with 1 min flavors.
Weather Classroom K and L/M Flavors eliminated (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6znPSo7uos#ws)
My opinion hasn't and won't change either way. I hate LDAs on any HD channel, it really takes away from the fact that you're looking at an HD channel when you have all that crap up there. Too much information is just as bad as too little information. An LDL will suffice just fine imo.
CNBC uses an LDA type for information and their screen is small.
but the average viewer doesn't care about a full screen HD channel, they want to be able to enjoy all the content a network has to offer.
in TWC's case the LDA is the best option (Large LDL during live programming and LDA during Long Form Programming).
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Agree to disagree I suppose. I still think the LDA is a terrible idea and CNBC just made the perfect case for it.That's 100x worse than the LDA TWC had. Where do you even begin to focus your eyes at what information? :dunno:
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I'm going to miss lot8s..
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Agree to disagree I suppose. I still think the LDA is a terrible idea and CNBC just made the perfect case for it.That's 100x worse than the LDA TWC had. Where do you even begin to focus your eyes at what information? :dunno:
I agree and don't like the CNBC setup during live programming.
It would be a mistake for TWC to go back to 4:3 video so they can have weather information on the side of the screen.
What they need to do is format the maps and graphics for 16:9 and letterbox programming on the SD channel.
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I think that TWC will probably just cue the legacy STAR units over the L-bar segments as before, without making any new L-bars for those units, like in this video clip:
TWC WeatherSTAR XL- The Dalles, OR- Apr. 7, 2012- 5:57PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvklJqyuNPs#)
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I think that TWC will probably just cue the legacy STAR units over the L-bar segments as before, without making any new L-bars for those units, like in this video clip:
Well, I guess that's truly the best they can do. Certainly much better than nothing.
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i hope I'm wrong but if Reel Rivals premieres May 7th wouldn't it seem logical for the new Graphics to start on Monday May 6th to kick off TWC new direction?
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I don't think the launch of a new show would have anything to do with a new direction for TWC, unless it was something radically different.
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This might be a little unrelated, but weather.com (and possibly TWC on-air - I haven't looked yet) has slightly updated graphics for their thunderstorm outlook. They sure do like the use of 3D-looking effects. :P
(http://s10.postimg.org/x0mjr8wqx/map_specnews02_ltst_4namus_enus_650x366.jpg)
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Oh no...it's the "Thunderstorm Forecast"...
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Their graphics are getting worse and worse. I really can't stand that whole 3D junk they're doing. Probably because they go into overkill with it which turns me off.
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This might be a little unrelated, but weather.com (and possibly TWC on-air - I haven't looked yet) has slightly updated graphics for their thunderstorm outlook. They sure do like the use of 3D-looking effects. :P
2013 Thunderstorm Forecast Debut lHDl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY-G1wnBDpk#ws)
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This might be a little unrelated, but weather.com (and possibly TWC on-air - I haven't looked yet) has slightly updated graphics for their thunderstorm outlook. They sure do like the use of 3D-looking effects. :P
([url]http://s10.postimg.org/x0mjr8wqx/map_specnews02_ltst_4namus_enus_650x366.jpg[/url])
What IS this? Are they making their graphics in Powerpoint '07?! This is so damn dated looking it's not even funny! Agh! What happened to the graphics artist who relaunched WUWA and YWT the last time around? Those were what TV graphics should look like.
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If TWC really wants to show more weather information why don't they bring the LDA back?
New HD LDL/Sidebar ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4vN7v205MI#ws[/url])
It defeats the whole purpose of having HD cameras when the image is compressed.
Their graphics are getting worse and worse. I really can't stand that whole 3D junk they're doing. Probably because they go into overkill with it which turns me off.
WSI is owned after all by TWC and after their acquisition of Weather Central, NBC provides graphics for probably nearly 95% of local affiliates. The graphics upgrades aren't that much different than what your local TV stations are upgrading to. Granted TWC has an exclusive design set but the core concept isn't that much different.
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If TWC is going to eliminate full screen LOT8s for IS and IS2 viewers, they would also have to think about adding new LDLs and squeezebacks for legacy STAR units that are still in use by some cable headends :hmm: Otherwise, XL, 4000 and Junior viewers won't be able to see their local weather anymore.
Legacy STAR units are dead. Its only a matter of time, probably within the next 12-24 months before the old backend feed is killed. Most of the units are probably held together by dust and its frankly a miracle that they are still functioning as well as they are. I'm sad to see them go but servicing and running 20+ year old computers isn't practical, profitable or sensible. Even the current IS hardware will likely be revised in the coming years as that hardware is approaching nearly a decades worth of use.
Haha, TWC just wasted tons of money on the IS2 deployment only for the LOT8s to be scrapped. :rofl2:
Not sure how you figure that. Pushing high definition video to a headend requires massive amounts of computer equipment and the on air graphics are still going to be generated using it. The STARs are more than LOT8s.
Too much information is just as bad as too little information.
Very true. Its part of the reason why the Local on the 8s has changed to a simpler form. When the IS launched it was all about features, features, features! Bus forecasts, ski forecasts, getaway forecasts, etc. Now its a more concise set of information geared toward whats relevant to the user.
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I don't know if TWC has new icons in mind for the I-Star/WeatherScan but these are the graphics my local ABC affiliate uses with WSI's TruVu Max based in Massachusetts.
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TWC uses those icons, but only once in a while.
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Legacy STAR units are dead. Its only a matter of time, probably within the next 12-24 months before the old backend feed is killed. Most of the units are probably held together by dust and its frankly a miracle that they are still functioning as well as they are. I'm sad to see them go but servicing and running 20+ year old computers isn't practical, profitable or sensible. Even the current IS hardware will likely be revised in the coming years as that hardware is approaching nearly a decades worth of use.
Good point. Remember the reasoning TWC gave for killing off the WeatherStar III several years ago. The FCC required a warning tone to sound at the beginning of every instance of a weather advisory, and, without modification, the III was only capable of sounding a tone at the first instance. TWC decided that, since the III was already a couple of decades old, grossly outdated in terms of capabilities, used in very few areas, and that the cost of making the modification would be needlessly expensive, they simply gave the order to cable companies using it to trash it instead. Not even return it to TWC, as is the usual case when Stars are upgraded, but to simply trash it.
The WeatherStar Jr. is just a glorified version of the III, and the 4000 can also be described as "grossly outdated" by now. In fact, if memory serves, it's already older than the III was when it was forcibly retired by the FCC's new requirements. (And, truth be told, many 4000 units are seriously degraded by now due to age.) The WeatherStar XL is also getting on in years, though its output can at least still be considered good by today's standards, though one wonders just how much it can be updated. (As it is, it's not compatible with TWC's new LDLs and squeezebacks.)
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It defeats the whole purpose of having HD cameras when the image is compressed.
+1 My sentiments exactly.
Legacy STAR units are dead. Its only a matter of time, probably within the next 12-24 months before the old backend feed is killed. Most of the units are probably held together by dust and its frankly a miracle that they are still functioning as well as they are. I'm sad to see them go but servicing and running 20+ year old computers isn't practical, profitable or sensible. Even the current IS hardware will likely be revised in the coming years as that hardware is approaching nearly a decades worth of use.
Very true. Its part of the reason why the Local on the 8s has changed to a simpler form. When the IS launched it was all about features, features, features! Bus forecasts, ski forecasts, getaway forecasts, etc. Now its a more concise set of information geared toward whats relevant to the user.
I agree with both of these statements also. I've been saying the same thing about the IS for a while now how it was considered revolutionary compared to it's predecessors, but now even the IS feels quite outdated and it probably won't be long before it's updated. The only thing that's unfortunate is I haven't been able to see a legacy STAR and probably never will in person. :hmm:
EDIT: I know this video has been shared here like a dozen times, but every time a discussion about TWC's graphics come up all I can think about is why the hell didn't they use THESE? I know it was just a concept/idea for their HD launch, but it was perfect and it worked. Oh btw, at 10, 22, and 28 seconds in, THAT'S how they should use 3D graphics, not that Powerpoint garbage they're using now. The best graphics is 30 seconds in with Stephanie, that would have looked really awesome in HD with the city backdrop transitioning from day to night like that. :yes:
The Weather Channel HD Vision (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wRnBZYXko8#)
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It defeats the whole purpose of having HD cameras when the image is compressed.
I thought you said you liked those graphics when they came out.... :thinking:
I actually wouldn't mind having no traditional LOT8s and just have programming with the 30% LDL and LDA (outside of maybe WUWA/Morning Rush). That way all of our weather information is all in our fingertips. As it is the 16% LDL has incomplete information on both IS (especially) and IS2 for it to display on its own. Also programming was still in 16:9 HD with these graphics as well.
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Somebody should seriously get around to making a fully functional XL emulator. The nostalgia is killing me now... :footinmouth:
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With the limited resources i have here's what i think the new Local On The 8s might look like
Example of Localonthe8s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dOijF3LnYQ#ws)
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With the limited resources i have here's what i think the new Local On The 8s might look like
Example of Localonthe8s ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dOijF3LnYQ#ws[/url])
I would agree with you Alex. :yes: This fits the showing LOT8s and live weather simultaneously, or whatever that article hinted to. What would be kind of neat is to have a personalized video forecast in the "screen" portion, kind of like what AccuWeather does, or even the "Focus Forecasts" on weather.com now. But I don't know how much recording that would take - if they have to update all those US cities several times a day! :o
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even the "Focus Forecasts" on weather.com now.
From this clip i caught today i would agree with your statement (seems from the video it looks to be Miami's Local on the 8s).
Jennifer Lopez Rejoins The Weather Channel (Localonthe8s) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjA0rKXOWFM#ws)
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Very true. Its part of the reason why the Local on the 8s has changed to a simpler form. When the IS launched it was all about features, features, features! Bus forecasts, ski forecasts, getaway forecasts, etc. Now its a more concise set of information geared toward whats relevant to the user.
Just curious, but do you personally like the direction TWC is going toward?
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So with all this talk about TWC updating their GFX PKG's when do you guys think this might actually take place? I know at the UpFront they had they were saying new programming and a relaunch would be happening within this year or so. I'm wondering if they are going to change their logo again as well.
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I really hope they don't get rid of full screen locals, LOT8s is a staple to TWC. I just wish they restored them back to their 2 minute lengths, so viewers get see their complete forecasts again. I'm also positive they yanked the station ID at every :57 of the hour so they can slip in a commercial during that time. :rolleyes:
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With the new schedule change showing up today i wouldn't be surprised if the new graphics come out in the next 1-4 weeks.
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Schedule Change? I new so I'm just curious. What schedule change? :blushing:
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Schedule Change? I new so I'm just curious. What schedule change? :blushing:
Anyone know why TWC is doing no live shows from 5pm to 4am?
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg183048/#msg183048 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg183048/#msg183048)
Weird thing is my Xfinity guide didn't show the changes :wacko:
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I don't believe that's a permanent schedule change (at least, I would hope not). :no:
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I really can't see how that would be a permanent change. I just can't. Taking a look at IceManNYR's post in this thread (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/where-is-weather-center-live-tonight/msg183062/#msg183062), one of the OCM's said that was just for a "company meeting." Now, that might be a bunch of you-know-what, but perhaps something was going on last night that is not permanent, especially if your Xfinity guide didn't show the changes, Alex. We can only hope...
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Schedule Change? I new so I'm just curious. What schedule change? :blushing:
Anyone know why TWC is doing no live shows from 5pm to 4am?
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg183048/#msg183048 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg183048/#msg183048)
Weird thing is my Xfinity guide didn't show the changes :wacko:
Surprised yours didn't show it, mine did. There was no WCL on my programming guide when I checked it last night after seeing that thread. :no:
EDIT: Checked it again, it has WCL back on there again.
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It looks like things are back to normal as far as WCL is concerned tonight, but now I'm wondering how long it will last. What (nearly) happened last night is the equivalent of the Friday Night Death Slot for WCL. By attempting to skip WCL last night, TWC has metaphorically "moved it to Friday Night" IMHO. Weather intervened, which is a perfect example of why they shouldn't do this.
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Schedule Change? I new so I'm just curious. What schedule change? :blushing:
Anyone know why TWC is doing no live shows from 5pm to 4am?
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg183048/#msg183048 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg183048/#msg183048)
Weird thing is my Xfinity guide didn't show the changes :wacko:
Surprised yours didn't show it, mine did. There was no WCL on my programming guide when I checked it last night after seeing that thread. :no:
EDIT: Checked it again, it has WCL back on there again.
My brother informed me when i was at work the guide said the same as you posted tavores, the last time i saw the guide was 8am yesterday morning and i didn't see any longform :blink:
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Looking at my channel guide last night it didn't show WCL it just showed the programming that was on. And as for today it's showing WCL on at 5pm and again at 10pm. I know they said there was a meeting which is why they didn't go live. Maybe their meeting last night was about rolling out the new GFX and things.
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A friend of mine in Framingham got this reply from TWC when asking about seeing Wellesley, MA's Metro Conditions on the Locals.
My Friend's Reply
Hi TWC Feedback, are there any plans to bring back the Metro Conditions page in place of the Current Conditions page on the IntelliStar? the reason i ask is i cannot see my area Wellesley's conditions on the IntelliStar Local On The 8s and instead i always see Boston Int'l Airports conditions.
Please fix this soon i want to be able to see my area's forecast again.
TWC's Reply
This is the result of TWC dropping down to 60 second locals. I have passed on your comment to my boss. Hopefully, they review this issue. I know we have a lot of changes for local all the time coming in the fall, so I hope this gets addressed by then if not sooner. There is a lot of developmental work which is why it will take that many months.
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I had a lengthy discussion with Tony F via email about the new graphics and this is what he told me
The new graphics and products are still a long way away and only in the planning stages, We are not making any changes from now on until the new graphics and products come out toward the end of the year Unfortunately, we still don't know when Comcast will do their HD locals. And it will be a number of months before we know anything about the new product dates.
and here's what he told Vala about previous versions of Stars (XL,3000,4000)
We are very sorry about this. Unfortunately, your cable company has one of our older Local on the 8's computers. That model is having difficulty getting updates. We are trying some things to make it better but there isn't much we can do to these old models. We will continue to try to find fixes.
The good news is that a newer Local on the 8's model is replacing all the older ones in 2013. I don't have a date but the new one will be coming in a number of months and the new one will be much, much better than the local you are currently seeing.
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I'm very anxious to see what's in store for the LOT8s later this year. It's hard to believe that in October the SD IntelliSTAR will be approaching its sixth year since the latest upgrade. With the Emergency Feed running on TruVu Max now, I wonder if the locals will follow suit?
On the other hand, I am perfectly fine with the graphics TWC currently has and am not looking forward to a change any time soon. TWC updates their on-air graphics far too often in my opinion. Is that all the graphics department does? The day new graphics debut they have to go back to the drawing board and start making even better ones?
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...and here's what he told Vala about previous versions of Stars (XL,3000,4000)
We are very sorry about this. Unfortunately, your cable company has one of our older Local on the 8's computers. That model is having difficulty getting updates. We are trying some things to make it better but there isn't much we can do to these old models. We will continue to try to find fixes.
The good news is that a newer Local on the 8's model is replacing all the older ones in 2013. I don't have a date but the new one will be coming in a number of months and the new one will be much, much better than the local you are currently seeing.
Wow, so they're going to replace all of the legacy STAR units with a brand new generation of STARs for the non-IntelliSTAR-using cable headends? :o
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Replacing all the XL, 4000, and Jr. units with a new unit just seems strange at this stage. Why not just upgrade every non-Intellistar to an Intellistar? It's one thing to have a current unit alongside legacy units that have simply aged into "legacy" status, but to unilaterally decide that old units need to go and be replaced by another non-standard unit... that's something I can't comprehend.
When the 3000 had to be replaced because new FCC regulations required its retirement - that's one thing. But an arbitrary decision like this makes no sense.
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from what Tony told me he should have more information on the new "Star" sometime in September or October.
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I'm very anxious to see what's in store for the LOT8s later this year. It's hard to believe that in October the SD IntelliSTAR will be approaching its sixth year since the latest upgrade. With the Emergency Feed running on TruVu Max now, I wonder if the locals will follow suit?
On the other hand, I am perfectly fine with the graphics TWC currently has and am not looking forward to a change any time soon. TWC updates their on-air graphics far too often in my opinion. Is that all the graphics department does? The day new graphics debut they have to go back to the drawing board and start making even better ones?
I remember distinctly being upset with this version of graphics because I saw it as "dumbed down" from previous versions.
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does anyone know if these graphics are new? i've been working and haven't been able to watch TWC in a long time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJnrFfRD2Q#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJnrFfRD2Q#ws)
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does anyone know if these graphics are new? i've been working and haven't been able to watch TWC in a long time.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJnrFfRD2Q#ws[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJnrFfRD2Q#ws[/url])
The only thing to me that looks different (mind you, I don't pay a whole lot of attention to the Channel anymore) would be the blue title bars-definitely an improvement over the God-awful red monstrosities they insist on smacking everywhere.
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does anyone know if these graphics are new? i've been working and haven't been able to watch TWC in a long time.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJnrFfRD2Q#ws[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoJnrFfRD2Q#ws[/url])
Ahh, it's finally nice to see TWC use a color other than red.
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I haven't seen the blue titlebars today.
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Those title bars look exactly the same as the red ones, just in blue. The blue is definitely a nice color. Personally, I think red should only be used during a "Breaking News" or "Storm Alert" type of event. Out of curiosity, have the L3rds changed as well? Those used to always be red.
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Those title bars look exactly the same as the red ones, just in blue. The blue is definitely a nice color. Personally, I think red should only be used during a "Breaking News" or "Storm Alert" type of event. Out of curiosity, have the L3rds changed as well? Those used to always be red.
The Lower 3rd's have always been red. They should use Blue as well as maybe orange, and yellow to match certain day parts. I also agree that a color other than red should be used. It seems to alarming.
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So does anyone have any new information on when TWC is supposed to be launching new GFX?
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Are they still using GRAnaylst or have they switched to the new TruVu 3D radar that came out in August?
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TWC announced that the new "Weather All The Time" graphics are starting in November.
Apparently the LDL is going to be like ESPN's bottom line where the sports news and scores are always at the bottom of the screen.
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TWC announced that the new "Weather All The Time "graphics are starting in November.
Apparently the LDL is going to be like ESPN's bottom line where the sports news and scores are always at the bottom of the screen.
That's Great! :yes:
On TWC's beta.weather.com (http://beta.weather.com) there's a countdown that says 10 day's til thanksgiving? If that's when the graphics launch that would be November 18th. Ironically that's a Monday and TWC usally launches new graphics on Monday's.
EDIT: By the way, where did you see this. I can't find a link to an article about this anywhere :dunno:
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TWC announced that the new "Weather All The Time "graphics are starting in November.
Apparently the LDL is going to be like ESPN's bottom line where the sports news and scores are always at the bottom of the screen.
That's Great! :yes:
On TWC's beta.weather.com ([url]http://beta.weather.com[/url]) there's a countdown that says 10 day's til thanksgiving? If that's when the graphics launch that would be November 18th. Ironically that's a Monday and TWC usally launches new graphics on Monday's.
EDIT: By the way, where did you see this. I can't find a link to an article about this anywhere :dunno:
Where did you see the countdown?
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On Thursday Kelly and Paul mentioned that TWC had an event for fans of the network and they got a preview of the new Weather All The Time graphics.
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On Thursday Kelly and Paul mentioned that TWC had an event for fans of the network and they got a preview of the new Weather All The Time graphics.
any pics anywhere?
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Did anyone happen to catch what the new weather all the time graphics look like? I heard there was an event where fans got to see the new graphics. If you did can you describe it or upload any photos?
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weatherfan_2013: I put your new topic as a post in this thread as it was relevant to the discussion here.
I am anxious to see what TWC has in store here, but I wonder if this will also be the demise of the LOT8s as we know it? :thinking:
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Figures i was at work when they announce this type of information :itsok: hopefully it's worth all the hype.
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Given the direction the channel's gone in the past few years, it always concerns me now when I hear of anything new they might be trying. On the flip side, there gets to be a point where up is the only direction left, so maybe this will be a good change. To be fair, I haven't seen the new graphics, so I'll have to wait and see if I like them.
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The video preview of the new format can be found at weather.com/weatherallthetime (http://weather.com/weatherallthetime)
It makes you fill out a survey first, then takes you to a forum and you'll have to register.
Here are some snapshots of the new look:
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/claytonleffler/watt1_zps6b41b263.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/claytonleffler/watt2_zps5362509b.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/claytonleffler/watt3_zps7985e262.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/claytonleffler/watt4_zps50d2fcc5.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/claytonleffler/watt5_zps134e4f2d.jpg)
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WOW! Very different. But I can't access the link.
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try weather.com/weatherallthetime (http://weather.com/weatherallthetime)
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So basically TWC HD will have the closest Metropolitan Area for a Headend? what if you live in a Coastal City?
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try weather.com/weatherallthetime ([url]http://weather.com/weatherallthetime[/url])
Thanks, got it. :thumbsup:
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Oh, geez... how many ways are there to say "ugly"? And such a waste of the IS2's capabilities...
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The Weather Channel: Weather All The Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjNWMYqbug#)
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^Surprisingly...I like it. I approve. :yes:
Eventhough this is like 5 years late imo, it would have been nice to have seen a concept like this when they first went HD.
EDIT: Plus, that's probably exactly how I would have designed it if I was apart of their Graphical Design department so I give them bonus points for that. :P I really like the simplicity of it compared to some of the fancy stuff they did with the IS2, which is not a problem, but simplicity is great sometimes too if you do it right.
EDIT #2: Sorry, I thought about something else, is this going to replace the existing STARs (IS, XL, 4000)? :dunno:
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The main on air graphics will still be using WSI Max systems so while they may look different I would expect them to keep the same feel to them unless they get some major TWC exclusive features from the WSI team. Remember this is just a sample image not made with actual production equipment. Some of you may remember the original HD Star concept video several years ago. The end results were quite different.
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Before (2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGJHkUCiVlU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGJHkUCiVlU#ws)
After (2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NScO-g4eTwg#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NScO-g4eTwg#ws)
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Not bad. :thumbsup: I like that they've toned down the use of blue. The black and dark grey look more upscale IMO, and the red for severe weather continues to be a nice touch. The fonts look a little more modern IMO, and they provide a refreshing change.
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Very interesting graphics! :yes: I love how more modernized the LOT8s and LDL look compared to the current outdated graphics.
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I'm ok with having the graphics wing on the right side of the screen if we are still going to get the full video window like ESPN does during SportsCenter.
What does this change mean for TWC's SD feed? Does it go letterboxed 24/7 and are they done formatting graphics and video for 4:3?
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The main on air graphics will still be using WSI Max systems so while they may look different I would expect them to keep the same feel to them unless they get some major TWC exclusive features from the WSI team. Remember this is just a sample image not made with actual production equipment. Some of you may remember the original HD Star concept video several years ago. The end results were quite different.
Yeah, and remember the HD Vision video they had prior to their HD launch? How close did the actual graphics come to looking like that? :P
The graphics presented in the video are quite different, although it looks like TWC will be keeping their traditional "Local on the 8s" concept. Of course, all I could say when the video came to 1:56 was news channel, news channel, news channel!
I would hope TWC uses this "relaunch" to provide uniformity across all platforms. Therefore, this look would be on both SD and HD channels and all "STARS" (if that's even what it's going to be anymore) look alike.
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For areas who already have TWC lHDl i would think they would just use the HD feed on both SD/HD like some cable companies are already doing.
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If this is what the finished GFX are going to look like then I will honestly say I REALLY LIKE THEM!!!!! They are very clean and modern looking. I live in Tallahassee, FL so I wonder how our LOT8s will look being that our city is not that big. I wonder if we will have pictures of our city in the background on our LOT8s like in the example of Boston in the video. I really can't wait till these GFX debut. Oh and having the weather on the right hand side of the screen is perfect! Good work TWC!!!! :clap: :dance:
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They look radically different from what they have now.
It looks likely judging from the photos that TWC will letterbox the SD Channel. Unless all Cable Companies have the IS2 or a "newer system", those without it will probably not have local forecasts. And what will Satellite Viewers see?
Also, it looks like the new graphics were inspired by Windows 8.
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Is the standard feed's LOT8s going to look the same as the HD feed this time?
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Is the standard feed's LOT8s going to look the same as the HD feed this time?
I'd like to know too. Looks interesting though, certainly something to wait and see. I don't like how simplistic the radar looks though, it just looks bland and not as good as the radar on the Intellistar
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Since I have satellite and HD, I'll be sure to keep an eye out for any changes to the "satellite LFs" or anything else interesting.
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I think if they keep the format as in the demo video we could be seeing a return of 2 minute local forecasts. In the video we get about halfway in the local on the 8s before it goes to commercial and that was about 1 minute and 12 seconds. Let's cross of fingers.
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I think if they keep the format as in the demo video we could be seeing a return of 2 minute local forecasts. In the video we get about halfway in the local on the 8s before it goes to commercial and that was about 1 minute and 12 seconds. Let's cross of fingers.
Well it's just a beta, the rollout could look quite different than from the video seen. And what about those with the IS2? Would the IS2 still be used for HD feeds?
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It really is beautiful, hopefully they have the same format for both HD and SD. Weather all the time is a great step in the right direction. I know most of us miss the weather-centric broadcasts of the past. The design is what I hoped for when they went HD. Its modern, simple, design but with all the weather info you need. And I love getting all the info you outside of the LOT8s. The sidebar is a mix of ESPN where they give you a rundown of topics/programming and Fox Sports 1 where they give you information pertaining to the current topic or in the case local weather. They couldn't have done better with this, now we just have to see how its implemented.
Also this has been online since Sept. 17th and it hasn't been found yet? lol.
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Also, it looks like the new graphics were inspired by Windows 8.
I thought the exact same thing. It's very Metro/Modern-like. I like it. :|
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EDIT #2: Sorry, I thought about something else, is this going to replace the existing STARs (IS, XL, 4000)? :dunno:
I guess that depends on the cable companies involved. Can they be forced to upgrade their equipment? I doubt it. Otherwise, it would probably have happened by now. As has been said before, the WeatherStar III was discontinued only by FCC order, which meant there was no question about it.
That said, those stuck with legacy systems will probably be missing out on an awful lot, even more than they're missing now. As it is now, they're stuck with the national LDL, and they only get to see their own local weather during local forecast segments (whether full-screen or a full screen over the squeezeback).
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I would hope TWC uses this "relaunch" to provide uniformity across all platforms. Therefore, this look would be on both SD and HD channels and all "STARS" (if that's even what it's going to be anymore) look alike.
I think the 4000 and the Jr. are quite helpless in this regard. Maybe even the XL can't do it.
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I don't like how simplistic the radar looks though, it just looks bland and not as good as the radar on the Intellistar
As much as I disliked the XL (other than the obvious advance in graphics and information over the 4000), I have to say that the first version XL had the best-looking radar on any Star I've seen. I just loved the texture.
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I don't like how simplistic the radar looks though, it just looks bland and not as good as the radar on the Intellistar
As much as I disliked the XL (other than the obvious advance in graphics and information over the 4000), I have to say that the first version XL had the best-looking radar on any Star I've seen. I just loved the texture.
For the record, aside from a different basemap in the v1 era (and using only 10 frames instead of 30), the XL's radar has pretty much remained unchanged throughout its lifetime.
And Victor, I really don't think the radar is going to look like that. Remember that this is completely a mockup, so things are bound to change.
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There was word back in July that all of the existing legacy STAR units will soon be replaced with something new for the cable headends that still use the older STARs:
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg184191/#msg184191 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg184191/#msg184191)
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There was word back in July that all of the existing legacy STAR units will soon be replaced with something new for the cable headends that still use the older STARs:
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg184191/#msg184191 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg184191/#msg184191)
I had forgotten about that. I wonder who will have to pay for this - the individual cable companies or TWC? Will they be upgraded to the same technology as everyone else, or will there be another "budget model" that isn't quite as good? And what will "not quite as good" be, exactly? So many questions... :hmm:
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Was watching TWC this morn, and at 5:45AM CDT, Julie mentioned the new look. It was just people's opinions about it. They could have showed us something! Unless I missed something on TWC Yesterday or the day before. Be on the lookout while watching TWC!
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I'm a fan. It's simple, and I like simple. Anxious to see the finished product.
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So basically TWC HD will have the closest Metropolitan Area for a Headend?
I'm curious about this too based on that video. Martin do you know anything about this?
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They're REALLY starting to beat the drum on these changes on air already. (from what I saw a couple of minutes ago)
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Yeah they are. I wish I was one of those fans that got to go to TWC Headquarters in Atlanta for the sneak peek of the changes. I'm still wondering how those people got to go see the changes.
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If anyone was wondering, the name of the song playing in that video Martin posted is "I'm Alive" by Michael Franti.
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So basically TWC HD will have the closest Metropolitan Area for a Headend?
I'm curious about this too based on that video. Martin do you know anything about this?
Don't know specifics on that but my guess is the top 10/20 headends get the personalized looks with a generic for others. I'm not really aware of a headend with many region specific IS2s so its not going to be too big of a deal
If anyone was wondering, the name of the song playing in that video Martin posted is "I'm Alive" by Michael Franti.
And the song sucks because youtube removed part of it due to copyrights lol
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i'm hoping my area gets the Boston Headend :D
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The icons look awful. They should go for a set that's more realistic-looking and diverse (something similar to the current IS2 icons :hammer:). Also, what if you're 50 or 100 miles away from the nearest metropolitan area/skyline? For a great many people showing weather that's 50 or 100 miles away would be useless in terms of showing them the local weather. 50 or 100 miles makes a huge difference in many situations, such as thunderstorms, snowstorms, and strong cold fronts. TWC has decayed a lot but not enough to do something like that, so I'm assuming that there's a generic background for those outside the big cities.
Other than these two things, I have to say I like the general idea. I could nitpick some more but I'm sure this is just a concept and the final version will look somewhat different.
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Guys get the metropolitan idea out of your head. This is simply an Intellistar/Intellistar HD update. I'd say it would depend on what your ob site is.
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i'm hoping my area gets the Boston Headend :D
As a former Bostonian myself, that would be nice. That said, two questions arise. First, if Comcast has been so reluctant and/or unable to install an IS2 up until now, what are the odds they're going to rush to get everything ready for TWC's relaunch next month? Granted, at least it is a possibility... Second, if the HD feed still won't have the IS2, will the IS (which Boston's Comcast does have) on the SD feed be receiving the same update? I guess there's a third question... will this mysterious new "replacement" Star for the legacy units be ready in time for the relaunch, and will they be distributed to everyone at once? Doubtful.
I was so happy when Comcast in Boston started carrying TWC's HD feed, but so disappointed that they never got around to installing the IS2, which meant I had to keep watching the SD feed and Weatherscan for the local weather. When I moved to Daytona Beach, there was no HD feed or Weatherscan, but the HD feed was eventually added, with the IS2. I still remember how excited I was at such a random thing that I discovered in the wee hours of the morning because I had insomnia and couldn't sleep! :thrilled:
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The icons look awful. They should go for a set that's more realistic-looking and diverse (something similar to the current IS2 icons :hammer:).
I agree. They look like something out of "USA Today" or some new-fangled app for a tablet, not something worthy of being on television being displayed by very expensive computers.
Also, what if you're 50 or 100 miles away from the nearest metropolitan area/skyline? For a great many people showing weather that's 50 or 100 miles away would be useless in terms of showing them the local weather. 50 or 100 miles makes a huge difference in many situations, such as thunderstorms, snowstorms, and strong cold fronts. TWC has decayed a lot but not enough to do something like that, so I'm assuming that there's a generic background for those outside the big cities.
Until sometime in the mid 1990s, the Stars in my hometown in Massachusetts showed conditions in Boston. It's a half-hour away by car and right on the coast, while my hometown was inland and often had different weather conditions than in Boston. Eventually, the current conditions city got changed to Bedford, which is an immediate neighbor to my hometown. Then I went away for a while, but when I returned to Massachusetts in late 2009, I discovered that the current conditions city had reverted back to Boston, but Bedford was brought back as a secondary city on the new IntelliStar LDL scroll.
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Guys get the metropolitan idea out of your head. This is simply an Intellistar/Intellistar HD update. I'd say it would depend on what your ob site is.
But I want demand a background photo of Daytona Beach on my local forecast, and it has to must be one that I personally pre-approve, and it should needs to be a photo that I took and uploaded to TWC's website. If not, I'm going to raise holy hell! :club: :hammer: :smoke2:
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Does anyone think that TWC will be testing these graphics during. Day Planner? Like they did with the 33% LDL. If they will be, could TWC be starting soon?
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Also, will the weatherscans be changed?, and sorry if this was said earlier but will something come to Directv and DISH? I don't want to be left out!
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I also wonder if Weatherscan will also be getting a graphical overhaul and/or the new weather icons like the ones in the WATT video. :thinking:
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Since Weatherscan seems to be the lowest of TWC's priorities now (just think how long it's been since it's had a major overhaul), I doubt anything will change, other than possibly the weather icons.
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There's a topic on the weather all the time forum on bringing back the all instrumental local on the 8s format. Although a lot of people may think there done with the format, just give it a try. TWC said all votes count. So if you want the instrumental format back I suggest you vote for it. Sorry if this seems like spam but the instrumental format is a lot more pleasant to hear.www.weather.com/weatheallthetime (http://www.weather.com/weatheallthetime). As far as weather scan I don't think they'll update anything because the 24/7 L bar format will probably take care of that.
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There's a topic on the weather all the time forum on bringing back the all instrumental local on the 8s format. Although a lot of people may think there done with the format, just give it a try. TWC said all votes count. So if you want the instrumental format back I suggest you vote for it.[url=http://www.weather.com/weatherallthetime]www.weather.com/weatherallthetime[/url] ([url]http://www.weather.com/weatherallthetime[/url]).
Localonthe8s would tell you they had near 400 votes on the TWC Feedback forum about this same issue and they haven't changed a thing :itsok: hopefully they do look into all the feedback because the vocals are rather annoying combined with narration.
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There's a topic on the weather all the time forum on bringing back the all instrumental local on the 8s format. Although a lot of people may think there done with the format, just give it a try. TWC said all votes count. So if you want the instrumental format back I suggest you vote for it.[url=http://www.weather.com/weatherallthetime]www.weather.com/weatherallthetime[/url] ([url]http://www.weather.com/weatherallthetime[/url]).
Localonthe8s would tell you they had near 400 votes on the TWC Feedback forum about this same issue and they haven't changed a thing :itsok: hopefully they do look into all the feedback because the vocals are rather annoying combined with narration.
More like 736 , http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv/suggestions/2731941-what-happened-to-the-smooth-jazz-on-the-local-on-t (http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv/suggestions/2731941-what-happened-to-the-smooth-jazz-on-the-local-on-t)
Doubt they'll do anything at this point
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It seems like they make the changes no one wants rather than addressing the problems. Instead of fixing the music, cutting back on longform, and preserving their talent, they tweak the icons, graphics, and website.
I'm not saying that the graphics didn't need improvement. I like what I've seen of the new look so far. However, the graphics weren't one of my main complaints with TWC.
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Here is a Shortcut (https://thebarometer.vcfeedback.com/Forums/Forums/Details/0b44354b-9cc9-4d35-bb98-9ee8511f2e85) to the thread so you can skip the survey ;)
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Graphically, I think this looks great. A much needed refresh from the ground up, instead of the current mish-mash of a number of elements over the years. It's a look that's very European in its execution, straddling a very fine line between news and entertainment, which is what TWC does these days, for better or for worse.
That said, there are a few elements that are surprising. One is the news ticker that comes a few years after they stripped elements out of the LDL, saying people weren't looking for anything but weather down there (or more likely, didn't want to pay to renew the deal with Traffic Pulse). But there's news and sports there in the example given - but the weather remains constant, so that's different, and perhaps that's why a ticker is there - moreso than just filling up a space.
A return of the L-Bar is a little surprising too. It always seems like this element comes in and is then dropped soon thereafter. Maybe it'll have a longer lease on life, since it appears to be cycling local info - before it was national on the side with the 33% LDL at the bottom, no?
Finally, an interesting choice on the maps in making them very minimalistic, almost a throwback to the days when forecast maps were mainly brown for land and blue for sea. My guess into that decision is by reducing elements of the maps (topography, mountains and the like) and giving them a neutral color, it puts the weather element - watch areas, temperature ranges, radar - front and center.
While we're talking about minimalistic, I wonder if the icons will get a splash more of color on-air when this debuts. They have it on the new website, and I think it would help break up what it admittedly a lot of grey.
Anywho, that's my two cents. I look forward to seeing it in motion to see if it can be as smooth in execution as it is in the mock-up video.
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Ewww, those radar maps are ugly!!! But I like the rest of the graphics.
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So basically TWC HD will have the closest Metropolitan Area for a Headend?
I'm curious about this too based on that video. Martin do you know anything about this?
Don't know specifics on that but my guess is the top 10/20 headends get the personalized looks with a generic for others. I'm not really aware of a headend with many region specific IS2s so its not going to be too big of a deal
If anyone was wondering, the name of the song playing in that video Martin posted is "I'm Alive" by Michael Franti.
And the song sucks because youtube removed part of it due to copyrights lol
Ha, tell me about it. The music video to that song is just bizarre...
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There was word back in July that all of the existing legacy STAR units will soon be replaced with something new for the cable headends that still use the older STARs:
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg184191/#msg184191 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg184191/#msg184191)
I had forgotten about that. I wonder who will have to pay for this - the individual cable companies or TWC? Will they be upgraded to the same technology as everyone else, or will there be another "budget model" that isn't quite as good? And what will "not quite as good" be, exactly? So many questions... :hmm:
Sent a email to Mediacom's Area Director of Operations asking if they were getting things in order for the new local on the 8s format, he sent back a quick reply: "The paperwork has been submitted to get the new units from Weather Channel, so we will be able to continue to provide local weather information."
I think a lot of Mediacom headends are still using the XL, so they will be having to replace a few old STARs.
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At least they're on top of things. My guess is some cable companies simply won't care, so that means national LDLs, local forecasts, and everything else for their viewers.
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Here is a Shortcut (https://thebarometer.vcfeedback.com/Forums/Forums/Details/0b44354b-9cc9-4d35-bb98-9ee8511f2e85) to the thread so you can skip the survey ;)
that brings me to a sign in page
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Here is a Shortcut (https://thebarometer.vcfeedback.com/Forums/Forums/Details/0b44354b-9cc9-4d35-bb98-9ee8511f2e85) to the thread so you can skip the survey ;)
that brings me to a sign in page
All you have to do is register a login to the forum and it skips the survey.
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I might be seeing things wrong, but I think the new maps are already in use on the 7-Day Forecast and the Wake Up With Al touchscreen.
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I don't think this has been addressed with the whole Weather All the Time thing, but I hope they overhaul some of these outdated 2008 graphics they're still using on certain live programming. I know it's such a minor thing, but it really bugs me that there lacks uniformity nowadays.
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Apparently the video of the new LOT8s that Martin posted a few pages back is not longer available. So for those of you who haven't made it to the "WeatherAllTheTime" page/forum to see the new LOT8s preview, here is another upload of it (thanks to Eric for pointing out that it was on YT again):
http://www.youtube.com/v/8sUJqtZNtkk
*If the youtube video is not available for some reason, here is the direct link to the video
https://s3.amazonaws.com/visioncritical-sparq2media/Encoded/thebarometer-vcfeedback-com_82a02bf48bc94c688a1038c9a6dcfc86/0b44354b9cc94d35bb989ee8511f2e85/1379098908_TWC_Montage_v13_130909.ogg (https://s3.amazonaws.com/visioncritical-sparq2media/Encoded/thebarometer-vcfeedback-com_82a02bf48bc94c688a1038c9a6dcfc86/0b44354b9cc94d35bb989ee8511f2e85/1379098908_TWC_Montage_v13_130909.ogg)
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I don't think this has been addressed with the whole Weather All the Time thing, but I hope they overhaul some of these outdated 2008 graphics they're still using on certain live programming. I know it's such a minor thing, but it really bugs me that there lacks uniformity nowadays.
Yeah, I think it's really time for a relaunch, which is what I feel this will be. TWC has so many graphics packages floating around right now. Granted, I know the average viewers couldn't care less how something looks (they just want their weather information), but I think uniformity is still important for a professional look, which sometimes I question if TWC even has.
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Was anyone else watching the 6AM CDT WV this morning.? I did and I saw something interesting. I saw a new Tornado Central graphic. It looks just like the Breaking Now that is on the Weather All The Time vid. I think it was an error because after that graphic, TWC went to the Winter Weather Update.
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The promo segments they keep doing about Weather All The Time do have new map graphics so I would expect all other graphics to change to.
Coming back from break the show promo graphic is appearing at the top left using the new graphics font instead of appearing at the bottom left of the LDL.
(http://t.imgbox.com/acbRHeZz.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acbRHeZz) (http://t.imgbox.com/acnTLz1y.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acnTLz1y) (http://t.imgbox.com/abqS8WHx.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abqS8WHx)
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This may be the beginning of the changes!
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During WUWA the show promos were not running on the bottom left when returning from break. They came back at 7am.
I have not noticed the LDL show promos at the bottom before going to break.
Makes me wonder if the changes are going to happen Friday November 1st.
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I haven't seen anything posted about this, unless I missed it. If so, I apologize.
Both Kim Cunningham and Maria LaRosa posted pictures on Facebook saying it's their last time one the "old set." A new one will debut in about two weeks to go along with the new changes.
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I haven't seen anything posted about this, unless I missed it. If so, I apologize.
Both Kim Cunningham and Maria LaRosa posted pictures on Facebook saying it's their last time one the "old set." A new one will debut in about two weeks to go along with the new changes.
Thanks for the post Kyle it's the first i've heard about this.
so 2 weeks means between Monday November 11th and Friday November 15th.
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I'm hearing that the new changes (along with the set) are to debut the 11th or 12th.
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I haven't seen anything posted about this, unless I missed it. If so, I apologize.
Both Kim Cunningham and Maria LaRosa posted pictures on Facebook saying it's their last time one the "old set." A new one will debut in about two weeks to go along with the new changes.
Looked up Kim and Maria, and you’re right. I’m starting to think this will be a Major Relaunch! Bigger than 2005! A New Set??? I’m surprised! Wonder what they will do to the set? Also wondering, what will debut first the graphics, or the set? Did anyone watch Prospector’s Season Debut last night? I saw the end of it so I could watch WCL. After the credits, I saw something that looked like an ID. It looked the ID’s I’ve seen on TWC’s latest YouTube Videos. I didn’t hear as I was on my laptop with headphones and was not expecting it, and it happened fast. Did anyone else see it? Was it an ID or a Prospectors copyright?
Not much happening today, DP was in the studio I can’t remember the name of. Did it used to be Lighing Rod’s? It wasn’t the GFC. Wonder where WCL will be later today?
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Here are the posts from Kim and Maria about the set.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153419052745724&set=a.10150116988390724.396799.439592965723&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153419052745724&set=a.10150116988390724.396799.439592965723&type=1)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=598482953520314&set=a.114755238559757.7263.110572388978042&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=598482953520314&set=a.114755238559757.7263.110572388978042&type=1)
I wonder just how much of a change the studio is going to get since a couple years ago they replaced and updated the green screen and video wall?
They started using the other studio, I Believe is 1C, for Day Planner.
The green screen for that studio needs more lighting.
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I'm hearing that the new changes (along with the set) are to debut the 11th or 12th.
On his facebook page in response to a fan, Mike Bettes said the changes will take place on the 12th. He also said that some, but not all shows will be renamed on that day.
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Construction in progress, courtesy of Kelly Cass' Twitter.
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I should already know this. But did the area where the OCM's sit rotate?
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I should already know this. But did the area where the OCM's sit rotate?
Yes :yes:
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Ok I thought so. I only asked because I seen the video wall and the desk was in a different position.
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Ok I thought so. I only asked because I seen the video wall and the desk was in a different position.
Yeah, the center desk rotates 360 degrees, and it used to change position for different shows back in 2008 when the HD studio first launched. For example, I think YWT and EE faced the video wall, PME and WV faced the former cityscape backdrop, and FO faced the map where the small desk is. I haven't been paying attention much recently, but I don't think they do that anymore.
I'm really curious to see what this new "set" is going to be all about. They seem to be making a lot of changes to the HD studio lately - it's (only) five years old, so I'm not really sure if these changes are necessary or not.
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I'm hearing that the new changes (along with the set) are to debut the 11th or 12th.
On his facebook page in response to a fan, Mike Bettes said the changes will take place on the 12th. He also said that some, but not all shows will be renamed on that day.
That would be a huge change. I hope they bring back Evening Edition and PM Edition along with abolishing the 2pm-5pm Long-form block. This relaunch is going to be bigger than 2003, 2005 and 2008. Can't wait!
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For the people expecting a change in programming, don't.
The fact they just started airing new shows and new seasons of shows that are not about weather tells you that.
Unless there has been a direct quote saying otherwise,
All they are doing is changing to new graphics, having weather information on the screen 24/7, remodeling the studio and renaming some of the shows.
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For the people expecting a change in programming, don't.
The fact they just started airing new shows and new seasons of shows that are not about weather tells you that.
I would expect reruns of the new shows to take the place of the current longform blocks.
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That would be a huge change. I hope they bring back Evening Edition and PM Edition along with abolishing the 2pm-5pm Long-form block. This relaunch is going to be bigger than 2003, 2005 and 2008. Can't wait!
I seriously hope your joking. I wouldn't expect any changes in the amount of long form (or at least any cutting back of it).
I'm liking the simplicity of the new studio so far.
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That would be a huge change. I hope they bring back Evening Edition and PM Edition along with abolishing the 2pm-5pm Long-form block. This relaunch is going to be bigger than 2003, 2005 and 2008. Can't wait!
I seriously hope your joking. I wouldn't expect any changes in the amount of long form (or at least any cutting back of it).
I'm liking the simplicity of the new studio so far.
All I see in that image is the deconstruction of the old desk-nothing "new" so far. And the video wall border lacking color, which would make sense if it's off.
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They're probably working overtime to have it completely renovated in two weeks... :o
Seems like they would have started dismantling the studio a few weeks earlier to give them some leeway in case of any last minute delays before mid November. However, I guess they only need a couple of weeks to renovate a studio, even one that massive.
I was very skeptical about this relaunch, up until this past week I assumed the only new thing coming was on-air. I was not expecting them to take it a step further and make changes to the live programming shows/studio. Definitely looks to be a bigger deal than 2008. :yes: That launch was a little underwhelming looking back on it now.
I'm really curious to see what this new "set" is going to be all about. They seem to be making a lot of changes to the HD studio lately - it's (only) five years old, so I'm not really sure if these changes are necessary or not.
I don't think so Andy, even on a local level here there have been multiple HD relaunches with our local news affiliates. Our NBC station has had about 3 studio renovations since 2006, the last one earlier this year being the most radical change.
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Looking ahead at the schedule change. According to zap2it.com; On November 11th. Weather Center LIVE is from 5p-8p, and long-form is scheduled to run 8pm EDT to 4am EDT with First Forecast.
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Looking ahead at the schedule change. According to zap2it.com; On November 11th. Weather Center LIVE is from 5p-8p, and long-form is scheduled to run 8pm EDT to 4am EDT with First Forecast.
Where are you seeing this? Looking at it right now and it only goes to 3AM on the 11th.
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Xfinity X1 Guide for 11/11
5pm - 8pm: Weather Center Live
8pm - 11pm: Highway Thru Hell
11pm: Prospectors
11/12
12am: Prospectors Behind the Scenes
12:30am: Prospectors
1:30am - 4am: Strangest Weather On Earth
4am: First Forecast
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Sad to say, I would not be at all surprised if "weather all the time", will be seen by TWC as justification to increase the amount of long form programming, if anything. If the above schedules are right, this may be exactly what is happening.
On the other hand, maybe the above schedule is only Monday night, no studio programming to allow them to make the final changes in the evening and overnight before Tuesday morning.
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Sad to say, I would not be at all surprised if "weather all the time", will be seen by TWC as justification to increase the amount of long form programming, if anything. If the above schedules are right, this may be exactly what is happening.
On the other hand, maybe the above schedule is only Monday night, no studio programming to allow them to make the final changes in the evening and overnight before Tuesday morning.
Tuesday has longform starting at 8/7C and lasting through 2a/1a (that's as far as the TV Guide listings go).
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Sad to say, I would not be at all surprised if "weather all the time", will be seen by TWC as justification to increase the amount of long form programming, if anything. If the above schedules are right, this may be exactly what is happening.
On the other hand, maybe the above schedule is only Monday night, no studio programming to allow them to make the final changes in the evening and overnight before Tuesday morning.
Tuesday has longform starting at 8/7C and lasting through 2a/1a (that's as far as the TV Guide listings go).
This looks to be a permanent change. The Coast Guard Alaska facebook page posted yesterday that the show will be airing at 10pm starting November 18th. So it seems likely that live programming will end for the day at 8PM ET.
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Also looks like the weekend of November 9-10 has all longform scheduled from 2 to 10 pm ET both days.
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I have to agree... keeping weather information on the screen all the time is likely TWC's way of increasing longform programming while still "providing" round-the-clock weather information. Studio weather programming is likely to keep decreasing until it's but a small minority of programming on the channel... and it will eventually disappear altogether.
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I also have a fear weather all the time may not last, such as when the LDL stopped being shown all the time during longform previously.
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Honestly, since I don't watch TWC anymore I can't say I'm for or against the changes... but in recent times I can't believe how much they made me feel like an infant by dumbing down terminology. Either use the actual meteorological terms or don't talk about them at all <_<
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Honestly, since I don't watch TWC anymore I can't say I'm for or against the changes... but in recent times I can't believe how much they made me feel like an infant by dumbing down terminology. Either use the actual meteorological terms or don't talk about them at all <_<
Ugh. How bout that "Day/Night Satellite?" It is a little frustrating to me as well, but that's kind of the way things are headed. I got ripped for saying "occluded front" one time, even after an explanation.
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Sounds like TWC is interested in long-form programming more than the live stuff. :itsok: Even if they plan to run the new LDL 24/7 during those blocks (long-form), I still wouldn't watch the shows unless there is a weather event happening in my area and then I would check to see what the conditions are for my area.
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My theory is maybe TWC will be working on the studio until the last minute. So, some OCMs could be training with the new set/graphics during the extended longform. The OCMs most likely know what's happening and I would be totally shocked if any layoffs comes from Weather All The Time. Meaning The All the regular OCM's will still get airtime. TWC took their time building the HD Studio This feels very quick to me so maybe the need all the time they can get.
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I also have a fear weather all the time may not last, such as when the LDL stopped being shown all the time during longform previously.
I doubt it, that would completely defeat the entire purpose of doing the concept in the first place.
In fact, I honestly and personally believe it will have the opposite effect, you're getting weather info literally 24/7 which is what people want (I would assume, I would anyway) :P
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TWC cutting more live programming from its schedule does not surprise me. Unfortunately, the "Weather All the Time" will be coming at a price, with more of a loss of live programming. This probably helps TWC save money, as they are not utilizing the studio as often. However, viewers will still be getting weather 24/7, so no one can really say it's not justifiable. Yes, I would rather see live programming, but in this day in age, it's just dwindling. I am just curious how long-form will be formatted. Remember TWC went from showing the LDL on long-form all the time then an L-Bar for the LOT8s, to the LDL only for a LOT8s. Hopefully "Weather all the Time" really does mean weather all the time! :hammer:
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Disappointing, but we saw this coming. I thought it was mentioned earlier this year, they had wanted to expand longform to 3 hours during the primetime hours, so cutting WCL during that time made sense. TWC continues to lose money, so all this weather info should be present if they're going to add more longform as a way to build up an audience and increase revenue at the same time. Possibly, there will be no need for a primetime and overnight playlist now because of this change.
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I wonder how many commericals TWC needs to show? Would be intresting if TWC could do a live update every brake. Would make longform easier to watch.
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The problem I have with them cutting live programming at the cost of longform is how they keep the OCM(s) there on standby regardless. It happens whenever they go to extended longform as well for the two major holidays that are coming up.
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The recent posts on the CG Alaska FB page say new episodes Monday at 10pm ET but the cover photo says 9pm ET.
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1395355_692195120790784_1486649810_n.jpg
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Whoever is involved in posting information about the new episodes on that page does not seem to be aware that Daylight Savings Time is supposed to end overnight into Sunday morning.
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I went through Zap2it.com and the guide took me through Tuesday the 12 only up until 8pm. After 8pm no programming shows. But for the rest of the day it has Morning Rush starting at 7am, WUWA at 10am, Day Planner at 11am, long-form starting at 2pm, then WCL at 5pm - 8pm. No new shows names yet. Maybe zap2it will update the show names as the day gets closer. Because I do know some show names are supposed to change.
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I went through Zap2it.com and the guide took me through Tuesday the 12 only up until 8pm. After 8pm no programming shows. But for the rest of the day it has Morning Rush starting at 7am, WUWA at 10am, Day Planner at 11am, long-form starting at 2pm, then WCL at 5pm - 8pm. No new shows names yet. Maybe zap2it will update the show names as the day gets closer. Because I do know some show names are supposed to change.
Can you tell us which shows and the names?
Is Al leaving TWC? Wishful thinking I know, but really, how long is his contract?
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TV listings are given ahead of time, and usually don't change until the day of, if not day after programming changes.
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I went through Zap2it.com and the guide took me through Tuesday the 12 only up until 8pm. After 8pm no programming shows. But for the rest of the day it has Morning Rush starting at 7am, WUWA at 10am, Day Planner at 11am, long-form starting at 2pm, then WCL at 5pm - 8pm. No new shows names yet. Maybe zap2it will update the show names as the day gets closer. Because I do know some show names are supposed to change.
Can you tell us which shows and the names?
Is Al leaving TWC? Wishful thinking I know, but really, how long is his contract?
Someone on here posted that Mike Bettes said that some live show names are changing. But Mike Bettes didn't say which ones.
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My channel guide has updated and is showing more changes for the 12th. Here's the new schedule:
4:00am-5:30am - Weather Center (replaces First Forecast and On The Radar)
5:30am-7:00am - Wake up with Al
7:00am-11:00am - Morning Rush (4th hour added from 10-11:00am, Wake up With Al repeat no longer airs)
11:00am-8:00pm - Weather Center (Day Planner and Afternoon long-form no longer air)
8:00pm-2:00am - Long-form programming
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My channel guide has updated and is showing more changes for the 12th. Here's the new schedule:
4:00am-5:30am - Weather Center (replaces First Forecast and On The Radar)
5:30am-7:00am - Wake up with Al
7:00am-11:00am - Morning Rush (4th hour added from 10-11:00am, Wake up With Al repeat no longer airs)
11:00am-8:00pm - Weather Center (Day Planner and Afternoon long-form no longer air)
8:00pm-2:00am - Long-form programming
I hope that schedule's true! Sounds like a good trade off. I wont miss WUWA at 9/10AM! The only thing I'll miss is sometimes I would stop by WCL at 9/10PM but not every night. More so now because of the upcoming changes. If the schedule is true I don't think this is a big increase in longform. TWC may get more viewers at 2PM than at WCL at 12/1AM.
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My channel guide has updated and is showing more changes for the 12th. Here's the new schedule:
4:00am-5:30am - Weather Center (replaces First Forecast and On The Radar)
5:30am-7:00am - Wake up with Al
7:00am-11:00am - Morning Rush (4th hour added from 10-11:00am, Wake up With Al repeat no longer airs)
11:00am-8:00pm - Weather Center (Day Planner and Afternoon long-form no longer air)
8:00pm-2:00am - Long-form programming
I hope that schedule's true! Sounds like a good trade off. I wont miss WUWA at 9/10AM! The only thing I'll miss is sometimes I would stop by WCL at 9/10PM but not every night. More so now because of the upcoming changes. If the schedule is true I don't think this is a big increase in longform. TWC may get more viewers at 2PM than at WCL at 12/1AM.
Zap2it doesn't say anything. Neither does my Comcast Channel Lineup? Maybe that hasn't updated yet?
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TitianTV has some shows renamed and no extra live hours for the launch on the 12th.
The other guides still have the old show names though the schedule is the same.
Tuesday Nov, 12
4am-5:30am Weather Center.
5:30am-7am Wake Up With Al
7am-11am AM Rush
11am-2pm Weather Center
2pm-5pm taped programming
5pm-8pm Weather Center
8pm-4am taped programming
So we are losing WCL at 10pm and 1am weekdays. Most of the 1am show was a replay of 10pm.
It also appears we are losing WCL at 4pm and 7pm on weekeends.
I wonder what this means for OCMs like Kim and Danielle who were on WCL at 10pm and 1am.
Kim said she was not sure on the new schedule and they are still finding out details.
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Honestly, I would be surprised if TWC puts live programming in the afternoon long form slot. I mean, who is watching the channel then? Your average viewer is probably at work. As far as cutting live programming after 8 pm, that really screws over west coast viewers, as live programming now ends at 5 pm pacific time. However, I think TWC is going to try to compete with other networks by showing series in prime time. "Catch a new episode of [whatever], weekdays at 9pm!"
Plus, as previously mentioned, if the 1 am WCL was a replay of the 10 pm hour, then what's the point? BTW, it looks like the renamings have the word "Live" cut from the WC name.
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couldn't they do two feeds? one for east coast and one for west coast?
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While I get that they want to have a prime time that is all taped programming they should at least do a live show at 1am ET for those up late that want a forecast and for those on west coast.
I also don't like no live weather shows 2pm-10pm on weekends if that is going to be the new weekend schedule.
They should at least do a live show at 5pm and or 7pm.
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my Xfinity X1 Guide still says Highway Thru Hell 2pm-5pm on the 12th so i hope the guide update showing the changes comes very soon.
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The TWC bug and text on this clip appear to come from the new graphics package and the TWC logo is no longer blue it's more of a green tint.
(http://t.imgbox.com/adwT9Cyo.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/adwT9Cyo) (http://t.imgbox.com/abiLK9jp.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abiLK9jp)
http://www.weather.com/video/real-life-haunted-houses-40567 (http://www.weather.com/video/real-life-haunted-houses-40567)
I wonder how these changes are going to effect the OCM's schedules.
As I mentioned in another thread David Neal is now being used as an OCM. He has been working at TWC off air since March. Jennifer was on this afternoon and Kyla is on Thursday evening so they are still being used for fill-in shifts.
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looks good
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The TWC bug and text on this clip appear to come from the new graphics package and the TWC logo is no longer blue it's more of a green tint.
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[url]http://www.weather.com/video/real-life-haunted-houses-40567[/url] ([url]http://www.weather.com/video/real-life-haunted-houses-40567[/url])
I wonder how these changes are going to effect the OCM's schedules.
As I mentioned in another thread David Neal is now being used as an OCM. He has been working at TWC off air since March. Jennifer was on this afternoon and Kyla is on Thursday evening so they are still being used for fill-in shifts.
Interesting little chime there on that video opener.....
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My channel guide has updated and is showing more changes for the 12th. Here's the new schedule:
4:00am-5:30am - Weather Center (replaces First Forecast and On The Radar)
5:30am-7:00am - Wake up with Al
7:00am-11:00am - Morning Rush (4th hour added from 10-11:00am, Wake up With Al repeat no longer airs)
11:00am-8:00pm - Weather Center (Day Planner and Afternoon long-form no longer air)
8:00pm-2:00am - Long-form programming
Well, it looks like this may only be a one day thing. Coast Guard Alaska is in the 2-5pm slot the following day. Perhaps they want to air extra live programming on the launch day to showcase the new set.
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Only changes my guide shows for the week of the 12th is that WCL has been cut back to airing 5-8p et weekdays and 10-11p/1-2a weekends.
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Also looks like the weekend of November 9-10 has all longform scheduled from 2 to 10 pm ET both days.
Damn, that's gonna suck.
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the TWC logo is no longer blue it's more of a green tint.
I'm sure all of you have seen the green TWC logo that they use for Earth Day and such. I wonder if this new logo is one step closer to a permanent green logo. I prefer green, anyway, so it wouldn't bother me.
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the TWC logo is no longer blue it's more of a green tint.
I'm sure all of you have seen the green TWC logo that they use for Earth Day and such. I wonder if this new logo is one step closer to a permanent green logo. I prefer green, anyway, so it wouldn't bother me.
I doubt it (and hope not). The greenish color they use for "Green is Universal Week" is way too bright, IMO - like a lime green. It needs to be toned down a little. I, however, like the color used in the opener that was posted. A nice little change from the typical dark blue.
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the TWC logo is no longer blue it's more of a green tint.
I'm sure all of you have seen the green TWC logo that they use for Earth Day and such. I wonder if this new logo is one step closer to a permanent green logo. I prefer green, anyway, so it wouldn't bother me.
I doubt it (and hope not). The greenish color they use for "Green is Universal Week" is way too bright, IMO - like a lime green.
There goes Andy complaining about the shade of green they use on air again.. that never gets old :bleh:
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Here's my judgement: The blue shall remain as is. So no one must challenge! That is all. Higher power has spoken. :bleh:
Although I gotta admit I'm kinda diggin' that greenish-blue logo on the previous page... :P
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It looks like TWC's cutting back even more on weekends. Starting November 16th, they'll be no live programming at all after 2PM.
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It looks like TWC's cutting back even more on weekends. Starting November 16th, they'll be no live programming at all after 2PM.
Not even a 9PM show? Or, is it too far out? Either way, don't over due longform TWC! I don't want you in another Dish dispute and almost lose you again! Unless, Weather All The Time fills our longform needs. We won't know that until it starts.
On the other hand, watched the end of 9PM WCL last night and Chris was doing the regluar longform intro, then he said weather updates will be at least every 30 min. So maybe the updates will be more frequent when needed?
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It looks like TWC's cutting back even more on weekends. Starting November 16th, they'll be no live programming at all after 2PM.
Not even a 9PM show? Or, is it too far out? Either way, don't over due longform TWC! I don't want you in another Dish dispute and almost lose you again! Unless, Weather All The Time fills our longform needs. We won't know that until it starts.
On the other hand, watched the end of 9PM WCL last night and Chris was doing the regluar longform intro, then he said weather updates will be at least every 30 min. So maybe the updates will be more frequent when needed?
Are you kidding me? I really hope this is an error. If not we better have an L bar 24/7 and local on the 8s every 10 minutes. Also the jazz and instrumentals and no vocals unless its just wuwa. How come I ask TWC a simple yes or no question and dont respond at all? Very bad costumer support. Plus this schedule is really :censored: up.
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It looks like TWC's cutting back even more on weekends. Starting November 16th, they'll be no live programming at all after 2PM.
Not even a 9PM show? Or, is it too far out? Either way, don't over due longform TWC! I don't want you in another Dish dispute and almost lose you again! Unless, Weather All The Time fills our longform needs. We won't know that until it starts.
On the other hand, watched the end of 9PM WCL last night and Chris was doing the regluar longform intro, then he said weather updates will be at least every 30 min. So maybe the updates will be more frequent when needed?
Since when did WCL start at 9? I thought it was always at 10 after longform :huh:
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It looks like TWC's cutting back even more on weekends. Starting November 16th, they'll be no live programming at all after 2PM.
Not even a 9PM show? Or, is it too far out? Either way, don't over due longform TWC! I don't want you in another Dish dispute and almost lose you again! Unless, Weather All The Time fills our longform needs. We won't know that until it starts.
On the other hand, watched the end of 9PM WCL last night and Chris was doing the regluar longform intro, then he said weather updates will be at least every 30 min. So maybe the updates will be more frequent when needed?
Since when did WCL start at 9? I thought it was always at 10 after longform :huh
9PM Central. Sorry
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It looks like TWC's cutting back even more on weekends. Starting November 16th, they'll be no live programming at all after 2PM.
I forgot to mention also that all the weekend programs - Sunrise Weather, Weekend View and Weekend Now are being cancelled and replaced by Weather Center.
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After seeing some of these posts, especially on the programming part, it basically removes any chance of my seeing live TWC as I know it. I mean 5 to 8pm with live weather and then reality shows until 4am? Come on!
It's turning into a national version of a kind of AccuWeather channel where there are probably TAPED clips of meteorologists.
I would actually drop everything to see 10pm with even a tropical update with live people and they are taking that away? :dunno:
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Surely they must have a backup plan in case there's volatile weather here across the globe or any part of the day and/or night during the week at least i hope they do.
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:thumbdown:
What on earth? Between the lack of weekend shows other than WCL and the lack of live shows period after 2pm on weekends, I'm afraid the channel is going to be largely unwatchable on Saturdays and Sundays. I'll watch any football game that's on sooner than that mess, even if there's no team I care about playing. As far as their backup plan goes, I'm afraid we saw a little taste this spring, and it wasn't good.
This makes me wonder if one day Dave Schwartz's network will rise to prominence and start appearing on basic cable packages while TWC will become NatGeo Lite. Weather watchers need a new channel to fill the void being left by TWC's transition to Longform Network.
:yawn:
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now we know where the phrase "Weather All The Time" came from :(
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now we know where the phrase "Weather All The Time" came from :(
Well after seeing a youtube of the ocm announcing changes coming in november they were talking about lot8s. Weather all time also most likely means frequent local on the 8s also. There advertising getting your weather 24/7. So maybe ocm's will cut in for maybe a winter weather update or things like that. It seems unethical to put all info in one L Bar. Plus radar is needed too. So I would calm down just a little bit as 8 hours of no local on the 8s is not ethical. Again it might seem repetitive me but crossing my fingers for Jazz and instrumentals. :lol:
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now we know where the phrase "Weather All The Time" came from :(
Well after seeing a youtube of the ocm announcing changes coming in november they were talking about lot8s. Weather all time also most likely means frequent local on the 8s also. There advertising getting your weather 24/7. So maybe ocm's will cut in for maybe a winter weather update or things like that. It seems unethical to put all info in one L Bar. Plus radar is needed too. So I would calm down just a little bit as 8 hours of no local on the 8s is not ethical. Again it might seem repetitive me but crossing my fingers for Jazz and instrumentals. :lol:
Did you find another YouTube vid?
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Here's my guess:
Weather All The Time appears to mean the LDL will be up during programming, including commercials. During studio-based programming, the L-Bar will be used - at least on HD, though it's possible that TWC will do like other channels and start letterboxing the HD feed on the SD channel.
LOT8's during this time will be a full-screen affair like it is now during studio programming.
Longform - this is all speculation. Does the LDL stay up all the time? Will there be something even smaller - perhaps just the Weather Channel logo and the city and temperature scrolling above it, like what's shown in the LDL? Does LOT8 mean the LDL comes up? Will it be a similar setup as to now - sometimes it's just the LDL, other times it's the L-Bar with a studio update? Does the latter get replaced with a full-screen LOT8, since there's (possibly) no studio programming during the night?
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Here's my guess:
Weather All The Time appears to mean the LDL will be up during programming, including commercials. During studio-based programming, the L-Bar will be used - at least on HD, though it's possible that TWC will do like other channels and start letterboxing the HD feed on the SD channel.
Problem with that is that a lot of IS2s (like mine, which has either been out for three and a half weeks or FPB had it uninstalled to save money) seem to go out frequently and for long periods of time. Certainly not the reliability of the IS or even XLs or 4000s.
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This is just great, TWC is going to use the new "Weather All The Time" Graphics as an excuse to get rid of Weather Center at 10pm and 1am weekdays and 4pm, 7pm, 10pm and 1am weekends because you are always going to have weather information on the screen? Sorry that's not going to work.
There is no way TWC can have no live weather shows 2pm-4am weekends.
Not to mention how many time can they air the same old show episodes over and over again?
I also don't like that they are doing a survey asking about two OCMs not currently with TWC and two currently with TWC and asking if them being on would make you watch more, less or no change then asking to rank then 1 to 4.
Makes me wonder what they are planning with the current OCMs and why they would need two more if they are doing less live shows.
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I also don't like that they doing a survey asking about two OCMs not currently with TWC and two currently with TWC and asking if them being on would make you watch more, less or no change then asking to rank then 1 to 4.
Makes me wonder what they are planning with the current OCMs and why they would need two more if they are doing less live shows.
Where is this survey you're talking about? Which OCM's have they hired? I haven't heard about any new on-camera people although it does appear as though TWC has openings for an associate producer and ticker producers for live programming.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser-jobs?c=tnnav (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser-jobs?c=tnnav)
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they doing a survey asking about two OCMs not currently with TWC
You mean they would hire the OCMs back if the poll indicated to do so (and they actually listened to their own poll)? What if those OCMs don't even want to come back (i.e. they already have new jobs)? It's a noble thought, but unrealistic. I'm sorry, but I'm beginning to think TWC doesn't have it together.
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Where is this survey you're talking about? Which OCM's have they hired? I haven't heard about any new on-camera people although it does appear as though TWC has openings for an associate producer and ticker producers for live programming.
[url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser-jobs?c=tnnav[/url] ([url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser-jobs?c=tnnav[/url])
TWC has a survey panel called The Front. You can sign up here https://www.thefrontpanel.com (https://www.thefrontpanel.com)
That is where they had the survey on OCMs.
You mean they would hire the OCMs back if the poll indicated to do so (and they actually listened to their own poll)? What if those OCMs don't even want to come back (i.e. they already have new jobs)? It's a noble thought, but unrealistic. I'm sorry, but I'm beginning to think TWC doesn't have it together.
This is why I don't get the purpose of the survey questions.
What are their plans if the two women not working for TWC rank hire than the two working for TWC?
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We're under 10 days.....
From Keith Carson om FB:
Keith Carson
about an hour ago
The Weather Channel studio right now. It's been totally ripped out for a brand new look that launches in under 10 days. I've seen the plans, looks pretty awesome.
Photo: The Weather Channel studio right now. It's been totally ripped out for a brand new look that launches in under 10 days. I've seen the plans, looks pretty awesome.
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For some reason I can't post the pic so here is the link to his FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/MeteorologistKeithCarson (https://www.facebook.com/MeteorologistKeithCarson)
I hope TWC knows what it's getting into! There's not much time to put that studio back together. I also hope TWC has the real schedule. The schedules I've seen don't match up and look a little scary on weekends after 2PM ET/11AM PT!.
I hope TWC doesn't lose that drive to cut longform for severe weather like they did on Halloween.
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Kelly Cass confirms 11/12/13 as launch date
kelly cass @kellycass 2 Nov
Can't wait to see new studio! 11/12/13 @daveclark: Saturday @weatherchannel -> new set pieces arrive. pic.twitter.com/8hyizIKJ5u"
David Clark says final tech testing is going on right now for WATT
pic from above link
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1399174_518829508209794_22462973_o.jpg)
picture of set pieces arriving
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYFN59qIQAAVwfb.jpg)
first pieces getting locked in
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYKN8IqCAAAur46.jpg)
studio before they started putting in pieces
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYFQQ_sCcAABNyT.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BX7NSLiCcAAecJt.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXysPd7IIAAau6Y.jpg:large)
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Who's David Clark? Should we know him? Might TWC test WATT on air this week?
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David Clark = President of TWC
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Wow, I am going to miss the old look of the HD studio. Oh well, can't wait to see what they have in store. But they better get a move on if they want to finish this by next week!
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Anyone with a JR. 4000 Or XL needs to enjoy it and get recordings as much as they can before they go extinct.
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I'm excited to see what the set will look like.. and the way sets are built nowadays they're easy to install. I installed one at a local station in 3 days.. It's basically plugging in prefab pieces.
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For me the new studio is over shadowed by being on tape 2pm-4am on weekends.
I'm not expecting them to be live 24/7 but no live shows for 14 hours is to much.
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For me the new studio is over shadowed by being on tape 2pm-4am on weekends.
No kidding. What's the purpose of a new studio if it won't even be seen that much, even if it turns out to look good? I suppose it will be seen on reruns, but who's going to watch those? It is kind of neat to see it being put together, though. :happy:
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Yes, but keep in mind that other news networks are doing the same thing. HLN for example is only live between 7am-1pm with prerecorded programming during all other hours on weekends.
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Yes I get that but you also need to remember CNN is doing live news on weekends when HLN is not as are other news channels.
For TV weather there are no alternatives for national live weather forecasts on cable TV.
I really hope they do reconsider the weekend schedule after people keep asking them where the live shows are when the new weekend schedule starts in 2 weeks.
At least this coming weekend WLC is on at 10pm and 1am.
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Newest pic from WCL producer Shawn Reynolds 3 hours ago.. he also says premiere is in 8 days.
the corner where the blue walls are at is to the left of where the video wall was.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYQPlqLIgAA-2Hv.jpg)
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During WUWA this morning Jen gave a tour of the New Studio under construction.
wcx1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_epd7ZbhDI#)
wcx2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLW6GzVD9Dw#)
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I'm glad those panels weren't really blue lol.
I wonder what's in the box.. Hmm.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYUca1BIEAAVcJb.jpg)
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I'm glad those panels weren't really blue lol.
I wonder what's in the box.. Hmm.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYUca1BIEAAVcJb.jpg)
Fragile? Must be Italian.
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nope.. american.
http://www.stewartfilmscreen.com/commercial/broadcast/overview/overview_broadcast.html (http://www.stewartfilmscreen.com/commercial/broadcast/overview/overview_broadcast.html)
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nope.. american.
[url]http://www.stewartfilmscreen.com/commercial/broadcast/overview/overview_broadcast.html[/url] ([url]http://www.stewartfilmscreen.com/commercial/broadcast/overview/overview_broadcast.html[/url])
T'was a joke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Christmas_Story).
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Jesse Hamilton, EP for TWC Lost, posted this pic on instagram with the caption
"Big changes coming to The Weather Channel - and it's not only the studio being ripped out. #1week"
(http://i.imgur.com/QEu4OZW.png)
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Only 6 Days to go! I'm surprised they havent tested the LDL/L Bar during DP like they used ti do with the 33% LDL long ago when they used it for longform. There's also been no commercials yet. They did commercials for the June 2008 HD Launch and the 33% LDL longform
As of right now, no promos today and no GFC.
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I'm guessing they might be taking down the tropical storm backgrounds from the GFC walls.
Kinda odd for them to be covering winter storms with images of hurricanes and palm trees in the background on the walls.
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interesting when they interviewed people who saw the WATT, one person said it should appeal to a younger crowd. Is that good or bad? Also Jim Cantore mentioned he liked that you get your local forecast all the time, you don't have to wait for your local on the 8s. Not groundbreaking... just thought provoking.
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interesting when they interviewed people who saw the WATT, one person said it should appeal to a younger crowd. Is that good or bad?
In my honest opinion, that's just 1 person's point of view but if TWC asked me the same question i would say it would appeal to the older generation. The graphics are basically a way to compete with the NBC, ABC, CBS and FOX graphics updates and Studio revamps over the years. One example that comes to mind is what happened to "Shepard Smith Reporting's" studio with a futuristic feel.
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Paul posted two photos of the studio this afternoon.
The video wall area now has wood walls and floors. To the left there is a giant circular thing that I'm guessing might project video or be able to change colors.
To the right of of the video wall it is a wall with LCD screens that are going to be video windows like the NBC stations use behind the anchors.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/914045_10151975357718641_177474599_o.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1397743_10151975425393641_545439085_o.jpg
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thats just beautiful, no more depressing lighting... those graphics are amazing..
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Also Jim Cantore mentioned he liked that you get your local forecast all the time, you don't have to wait for your local on the 8s. Not groundbreaking... just thought provoking.
An LDL, even an always-on and expanded LDL, is still just an LDL. There's so much more that an actual local forecast segment can provide, assuming TWC gives that segment an appropriate amount of time. (One minute just does not cut it.) I sincerely hope that the new LDL isn't seen as a replacement for actual local forecasts and for actual weather programming, but, sadly, I think that's the new direction TWC is going in.
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This is off topic but still very interesting! WeatherNation debuted a new LDL yesterday (they call it a banner) and last night, at least my station in Milwaukee WI, squeezed back the commercials and kept the LDL up! Those of you who have WN may want to check it out. Competition perhaps? Or does TWC have a hit on their hands that others want to follow? I would love to see that new tool debut before the new set!
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Also Jim Cantore mentioned he liked that you get your local forecast all the time, you don't have to wait for your local on the 8s. Not groundbreaking... just thought provoking.
An LDL, even an always-on and expanded LDL, is still just an LDL. There's so much more that an actual local forecast segment can provide, assuming TWC gives that segment an appropriate amount of time. (One minute just does not cut it.) I sincerely hope that the new LDL isn't seen as a replacement for actual local forecasts and for actual weather programming, but, sadly, I think that's the new direction TWC is going in.
That's not the direction TWC is going in. In the WATT preview video they still had local forecast, weather programming, etc. Not to sound rude but re-watch the WATT video again and you will see they are still going to have those things. :yes:
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Only 5 more days till WATT!!! I can't wait! I'm off from work that day so I will be watching all day! This is going to be a good change for TWC and in the right direction. :clap:
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Studio is almost done!!
Here's a 360 degree view
http://360.io/77WuQp (http://360.io/77WuQp)
(http://i.imgur.com/XMNa2Fq.jpg)
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Looks like a much smaller set overall. Think they might move that green screen closer?
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It does look smaller, and that area where the video wall is has much "warmer" feeling to it.
BTW, did we ever find out what was in the mysterious "Fragile" box???
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It does look smaller, and that area where the video wall is has much "warmer" feeling to it.
BTW, did we ever find out what was in the mysterious "Fragile" box???
It really does look a lot smaller than the old one. I normally don't say this but I'm not sure if I like the new set. I guess I will just have to see it in production then make my decision if I like it or not. And as far as I know we still don't know what was in that "Fragile" box. I was trying to look at that 360 view of the new studio and figure out what might have been in that box but I sure as hell can't figure it out lol.
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It does look smaller, and that area where the video wall is has much "warmer" feeling to it.
BTW, did we ever find out what was in the mysterious "Fragile" box???
Yes. I had posted it a page back. The name on the crate is stewart. That company makes video screens for broadcast sets.
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It does look smaller, and that area where the video wall is has much "warmer" feeling to it.
BTW, did we ever find out what was in the mysterious "Fragile" box???
Yes. I had posted it a page back. The name on the crate is stewart. That company makes video screens for broadcast sets.
OK, so in the box were probably the screens that went in the "windows" Jen was talking about in the videos posted.
EDIT: Also, for those of you who are curious to see a "then" and "now," weather.com still has their interactive tour of the HD studio along with some great pictures at http://www.weather.com/tv/studio/index.html. (http://www.weather.com/tv/studio/index.html.) Seems like just yesterday I couldn't wait to see the unveiling of the new studio!
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TWC - Before & After And here's a look at the new Local On The 8's
The Weather Channel: Before and After (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9X3rP_HXRQ#ws)
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LOVE the weather ticker during longform.
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Why do I have the feeling there's more live weather programming in that short video clip than we'll see on a typical programming day when the new format begins? I would give an arm and a leg to go back to the days before all this longform. Not only that, but weather programming ("Weather Center," "Your Weather Today," "Good Morning Forecast," etc.) was a million times better than the pseudo-tabloid weather programming they have now, where so much time is taken up with Twitter, videoclips, and empty discussion. Show a freaking weather map once in a while, whydontcha?! :hammer:
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LOVE the weather ticker during longform.
YES! Finally! Although, the ticker/LDL almost blends in with the longform. No L bar during longform, oh well. I'm dying to see where the LO8/Live Updates/extended coverage fits in with longform. I was hoping that snow storm would hold true for next week but it doesn't look like it today. I'm also dying to see what DISH and DTV gets.
As for TWC Before And After, the only new footage is the ticker/LDL over longform. That commercial ran 1:15. Would TWC be able to show that on air?
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What time of day do you guys think TWC will debut the new look?
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What time of day do you guys think TWC will debut the new look?
Oh, I am sure it will probably be during the morning show. Morning Rush or Weather Center or whatever it's going to be called now.
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What time of day do you guys think TWC will debut the new look?
My guess would be during Wake Up With Al at either 5:30am or 6am, other times to look at is during First Forecast at 4:30am and On The Radar at 5am or as Andy posted Morning Rush
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A new broadcast day always starts at 4am for TWC, so I'm sure it's definitely around then. Back in 2010 when the last major update happened, the update was rolled out at around 3:45am ET.
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Will WeatherScan's Icons remain unchanged?
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Will WeatherScan's Icons remain unchanged?
Probably won't.
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What time of day do you guys think TWC will debut the new look?
What I would do is show WATT during longform today and tomorrow, since longform is extended now, and go full out Monday at 8PM ET. There won't be any more Live Programing after WCL until First Forecast(are those still the right names?) Tues morn. I understand if the set and the in house graphics aren't show ready, but WATT must be ready by now!
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Do y'all think the new LF will debut on the 12th too?
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What time of day do you guys think TWC will debut the new look?
What I would do is show WATT during longform today and tomorrow, since longform is extended now, and go full out Monday at 8PM ET. There won't be any more Live Programing after WCL until First Forecast(are those still the right names?) Tues morn. I understand if the set and the in house graphics aren't show ready, but WATT must be ready by now!
Well, TWC has already announced that is will be unveiling the new graphics on the 12th (which is Tuesday), so I think they're going to stick to that.
Do y'all think the new LF will debut on the 12th too?
I would think (and hope) so. It would make sense to unveil everything at the same time.
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Saw this posted on someone who works at TWC's Instagram. New WCL Logo!
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Has TWC made any official comments on the new schedule starting on the 12th and the reason for the reduction of live hours and or has anyone written about them?
It started today as WCL is not on at 4pm or 7pm. They are still doing live shows at 10pm and 1am this weekend.
I can understand not doing shows at 10pm and 1am but I still think they are making a mistake having no live shows after 2pm on weekends.
Getting back on topic.
Kelly posted a photo on Friday and the large circular thing to the left of the video wall is going to display video.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1412805_10152007458574390_1184132175_o.jpg
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Getting back on topic.
Kelly posted a photo on Friday and the large circular thing to the left of the video wall is going to display video.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1412805_10152007458574390_1184132175_o.jpg
Is that desk that guy is sitting at giving a thumbs up the new anchor desk, or some "side desk"? I thought I remember Jen saying that the anchor desk was going to be in the middle of the studio again (perhaps the same desk), but I don't think it's been installed yet, has it?
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From the 360 photo posted, http://360.io/77WuQp, (http://360.io/77WuQp,) it seems like that desk is the main desk and is going to always have the video wall behind it. There is going to be a side desk to right for the experts and guests.
I've not seen any changes to the left and right side walls and wonder if they are going to stay that way?
The area to the right of the green screen with the tropical background seems to have not changed.
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Saw this posted on someone who works at TWC's Instagram. New WCL Logo!
The new WCL Opener/Graphics looks similar to the old Weather Center opener/graphics from the early 2000s if you look very closely.
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Here's a response from Kim on FB about her new schedule, "I will still be seen during the week 7-8pm during the week and part of the local severe weather team on weekends and after 8pm."
I'm guessing "the local severe weather team on weekends and after 8pm" means that if there is a severe storm in a regional area after 8pm weekdays or 2pm weekends that TWC goes live to those areas on a alternate feed while everyone else stays on long form.
I hope this alternate feed does not require the IS2 to switch it on because my cable system does not have the IS2.
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Here's a response from Kim on FB about her new schedule, "I will still be seen during the week 7-8pm during the week and part of the local severe weather team on weekends and after 8pm."
I'm guessing "the local severe weather team on weekends and after 8pm" means that if there is a severe storm in a regional area after 8pm weekdays or 2pm weekends that TWC goes live to those areas on a alternate feed while everyone else stays on long form.
I hope this alternate feed does not require the IS2 to switch it on because my cable system does not have the IS2.
Sounds like the return of dual feed. We know the IS has dual feed, the IS2 probably does too, though I'm not sure if it has ever been used.
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Here's a response from Kim on FB about her new schedule, "I will still be seen during the week 7-8pm during the week and part of the local severe weather team on weekends and after 8pm."
I'm guessing "the local severe weather team on weekends and after 8pm" means that if there is a severe storm in a regional area TWC goes live to those areas on a alternate feed while everyone else stays on long form.
I hope this alternate feed does not require the IS2 to switch it on because my cable system does not have the IS2.
Intresting. What about DISH and DTV?, are they separated into regions? Would they go live to the whole country for a Nor Easter/East Cost Storm, Blizzard, or Tropical? I'm assuming this team will do the regular weather updates? What about Afternoon longform?
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Well No WCL tonight! I guess TWC has the real schedule. Tues can't come soon enough!
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Comcast's programming guide still hasn't showed any changes in the schedule outside of 8pm-4am being longform. I don't see any name changes or live programming shows being dropped on Tuesday. :no:
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Does anybody know why there has not been any WCL tonight?
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Maybe they wanted to be on tape so they could fishing up work on the studio remodel and test the new graphics?
Another update on the OCM's shift changes,
"Alexandra Wilson November 8
Last night with the Weather Center Live Crew! I'm headed back to mornings for a while - but first, I'll be off next week to celebrate my birthday (it's the Big 3-0)! Hope you have a great weekend, too!"
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im guessing their new slogan is "its amazing out there", there modifying the whole building
notice the use of the weather forecast logos on the elevators, and whatever that is laying on the ground outside
weather channel elevators have new doors lol
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYlZ6rsIAAAR5wt.jpg)
here's david clark (president) playing with the new monitors?
(http://i.imgur.com/0LkgFaC.png)
he also tweeted this photo ???
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYpT1v7IUAAmeZk.jpg)
from chris warren, seem to be testing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYlVdlJIIAACIYo.jpg:large)
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I wonder... if the lion's share of programming is supposed to be longform, they're spending an awful lot of time, effort, and money on upgrading studios that wouldn't be used so much. :dunno:
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Jen Carfagno just posted this on Facebook regarding Weekend View:
Just finished the last ever "Weekend View" show on The Weather Channel. I will be here next weekend anchoring with Alex Wallace...in a new studio with a new show name!
Another update from Jen. Apparently, Weather Center Live is replacing Weekend View:
Change is good and exciting ... But still, hard to change your name ... Next weekend, mornings will be known as Weather Center Live.
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After reading through posts and such, I seriously hope that for TWC's well being that this isn't the final product. That looks half- :censored: for a studio. The anchor desks look like they're made out of white cardboard that has been folded and cut to form a desk. The floor/stage area for that (the 'desk') just appears to be a large plastic box-like platform and the entire floor looks terrible where you can see the 'stage' ending. What in the world are they thinking? This is a studio? I sincerely hope they're also going to make more use of the space they have, but given that the weather producer desk is now out in the floor where the old desk w/ the four monitors were, I'm thinking that's unlikely. Goodness, TWC, what in the world have you done to your once beautiful studio. :blink:
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After reading through posts and such, I seriously hope that for TWC's well being that this isn't the final product. That looks half- :censored: for a studio. The anchor desks look like they're made out of white cardboard that has been folded and cut to form a desk. The floor/stage area for that (the 'desk') just appears to be a large plastic box-like platform and the entire floor looks terrible where you can see the 'stage' ending. What in the world are they thinking? This is a studio? I sincerely hope they're also going to make more use of the space they have, but given that the weather producer desk is now out in the floor where the old desk w/ the four monitors were, I'm thinking that's unlikely. Goodness, TWC, what in the world have you done to your once beautiful studio. :blink:
While the set certainly looks smaller, it's pretty obvious the "desk" area is just a placeholder for testing purposes. I'd guess the desk goes in last.
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With all the long form programming TWC has, do they really need a big set?
I'm surprised they are even getting a new studio. The other one was pretty spiffy.
I'm going to say these pictures aren't doing the studio justice. Anxious for the debut Tuesday, as I am sure is the case with all of you. Keep the expectations low so your less likely to be disappointed :P.
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I'm very excited to see all the new graphics and the new studio on Tuesday! I'm practically refreshing this page every 5 minutes to see if there's anything new to see lol. And then of course when I see there's a new post in here I get all excited :P
However, after reading thru the posts the last few months and especially the last couple of weeks...does the following seem like what is going to be the new norm at TWC?...
-No live weather coverage during week days after 8pm
-No live weather coverage during weekend days after 2pm
-When there's severe weather during those "off hours" only people in the local areas being affected by severe weather will have live, severe weather coverage, while the rest of the country is forced to watch the reality shows?
Do I understand correctly?
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Please excuse all the replies...
After reading through posts and such, I seriously hope that for TWC's well being that this isn't the final product. That looks half- :censored: for a studio. The anchor desks look like they're made out of white cardboard that has been folded and cut to form a desk. The floor/stage area for that (the 'desk') just appears to be a large plastic box-like platform and the entire floor looks terrible where you can see the 'stage' ending. What in the world are they thinking? This is a studio? I sincerely hope they're also going to make more use of the space they have, but given that the weather producer desk is now out in the floor where the old desk w/ the four monitors were, I'm thinking that's unlikely. Goodness, TWC, what in the world have you done to your once beautiful studio. :blink:
I agree with you, Donovan. I would *hope* that the desk there is just a placeholder as mightynine said. Because I thought I remember seeing or reading somewhere that a new anchor desk was going to be put in, and the one there now looks like it could snap in half and crumble to pieces in minutes. It would be hard to go from that huge, swivel desk to this cheap piece of crap, but then again, TWC has done crazier things before.
With all the long form programming TWC has, do they really need a big set?
I'm surprised they are even getting a new studio. The other one was pretty spiffy.
I am also surprised they are updating the studio. Going along with what Eric said, if they are increasing long-form, what is the purpose of even remodeling the studio? However, I wonder if they are trying to confine the studio to a smaller space now, and they will be filling the excess space with something else we don’t know about yet?
I'm very excited to see all the new graphics and the new studio on Tuesday! I'm practically refreshing this page every 5 minutes to see if there's anything new to see lol. And then of course when I see there's a new post in here I get all excited :P
However, after reading thru the posts the last few months and especially the last couple of weeks...does the following seem like what is going to be the new norm at TWC?...
-No live weather coverage during week days after 8pm
-No live weather coverage during weekend days after 2pm
-When there's severe weather during those "off hours" only people in the local areas being affected by severe weather will have live, severe weather coverage, while the rest of the country is forced to watch the reality shows?
Do I understand correctly?
I think that is correct. At least, that's what I have understood so far.
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I'm guessing if TWC decided to cut back on studio hours, they looked at the cost of keeping the HD studio as is, and decided it didn't make sense for the number of hours it would be in use.
So they made a smaller main set, almost a supersized local news style set, that could give them a number of "looks" but at a lower cost. If half the studio is "dark" that's half the maintence cost.
As of right now, it looks like the video screens would be the most expensive part of the set. The set pieces themselves look pretty basic.
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@factoryjones: #newweather Club TWC #iaot @freddyflaxman @daveclark http://t.co/5T8fNXfyPc (http://t.co/5T8fNXfyPc) Looks like a platform or something a desk could be put on!
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I'm guessing if TWC decided to cut back on studio hours, they looked at the cost of keeping the HD studio as is, and decided it didn't make sense for the number of hours it would be in use.
So they made a smaller main set, almost a supersized local news style set, that could give them a number of "looks" but at a lower cost. If half the studio is "dark" that's half the maintence cost.
As of right now, it looks like the video screens would be the most expensive part of the set. The set pieces themselves look pretty basic.
I think this is a perfect analysis of what's going on as to why they would remodel the studio even tho they will be spending next to no time using it live anymore.
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@factoryjones: #newweather Club TWC #iaot @freddyflaxman @daveclark [url]http://t.co/5T8fNXfyPc[/url] ([url]http://t.co/5T8fNXfyPc[/url]) Looks like a platform or something a desk could be put on!
Pretty! I wonder if a base will go on top? Where did you find this? Its not on dave clark's twitter feed.
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@factoryjones on twitter!
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More people are figuring out that TWC no longer does live shows after 2pm on weekends and they are not happy.
Again I can understand getting rid of the 10pm and 1am shows but there is no excuse for having nothing after 2pm on weekends.
It's ironic MSNBC used to go to tape at 12pm on weekends as they cut the live hours and then eventually changed that are are now live to 5pm.
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this is interesting, the schedule page on weather.com is down...
(http://i.imgur.com/QGGxnTF.png)
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this is interesting, the schedule page on weather.com is down...
([url]http://i.imgur.com/QGGxnTF.png[/url])
Been that way for days maybe even weeks. Too bad, that page would most likely have the correct schedule since it's TWC's homepage.
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I asked david clark what time it will all debut on tuesday ..
(http://i.imgur.com/bf3VlRzl.jpg)
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I asked david clark what time it will all debut on tuesday ..
([url]http://i.imgur.com/bf3VlRzl.jpg[/url])
Could you also ask him if the IntelliStars are going to change to the new look as well for the Local Forecasts in the morning? LOL
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@factoryjones: #newweather Club TWC #iaot @freddyflaxman @daveclark [url]http://t.co/5T8fNXfyPc[/url] ([url]http://t.co/5T8fNXfyPc[/url]) Looks like a platform or something a desk could be put on!
That's really an awesome platform. Looks like a lot of LED's. I'm thinking the anchor desk is going on there. And if you look closely in the picture you can see the new Graphic for Winter Storm Central.... I like it already!!!! :dance:
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I present to you..... the new weather channel desk.
Also, as we knew, they just mentioned this was the last episode of on the radar..
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYv2aDzIUAANQCC.jpg)
new outside facade
(http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/98f32e204aaa11e3ad2a120ba9972426_8.jpg)
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So is it safe to say those side areas are completely dead? I just don't know why they would take down a great studio, only to rebuild a half of one.
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it looks good, this is what they should've done to begin with. They were able to fit everything they needed into this one set... props to them.
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So is it safe to say those side areas are completely dead? I just don't know why they would take down a great studio, only to rebuild a half of one.
Could be that TWC is using other areas. In 2008, they only had the HD Studio. Now they have the Media Center, GFC, etc.
Don't shoot me but is the LO8 playlist staying? It grew on me.
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Don't shoot me but is the LO8 playlist staying? It grew on me.
I love the music they're playing, but instrumentals would be awesome instead. i doubt they will change to that though. they will probably have something similar to what they have had in their promo videos, and what we are listening to now.
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I got my DVR fired up for 3:30am ET on both SD (47) and HD (847) to catch the changes at 4am :D
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:biggrin: i hope someones able to upload to youtube! ill be watching live, but itll be cool to watch again.
here's the latest news story about it.
"We are getting back to our roots as a company," said David Clark, president, Weather Channel. "We wanted to get back to the core idea that this is a place where people get the weather."
The tactic is an attempt to retain and engage viewers during ad breaks. Networks including Fox and ESPN have also tested ways to keep viewers engaged during commercial breaks, including "double-box ad" formats, where the content continues to air in one small box while the commercial runs in another box.
For Weather Channel, making the forecast a persistent element coincides with a larger revamp of the channel, which includes a focus on Sunday night prime-time programming, amplifying its morning shows and a new tagline: "It's amazing out there."
Mr. Clark said the network had been missing opportunities to capture passion around the weather. It deviated a bit from its core mission in 2010, when it ramped up its reality TV programming and reduced its coverage of the weather. While it will continue to air shows like "Coast Guard Alaska," which follows Coast Guard members as they train and work, the network is adding science-driven, weather-centric, long-form documentaries on Sunday nights under the label "Natural Drama."
Weather Channel is also refreshing its on-air graphics to better accommodate a range of data sought by viewers, including pollen count and dew point.
Society is increasingly focused on data, said Scot Safon, a former CNN and HLN exec who was named CMO at Weather Channel in September. "The brand is completely built around data and data presentation and visualization."
Weather Channel worked with agencies Trollback, Mono and Man Made Music on the tagline and on-air revamp.
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With all the long form programming TWC has, do they really need a big set?
I'm surprised they are even getting a new studio. The other one was pretty spiffy.
I am also surprised they are updating the studio. Going along with what Eric said, if they are increasing long-form, what is the purpose of even remodeling the studio? However, I wonder if they are trying to confine the studio to a smaller space now, and they will be filling the excess space with something else we don’t know about yet?
Many of you seem confused as to why they would do a face lift to the set if there's a decrease in air time, and I get it. But here's a question: why do local television stations change their sets when they have less than 7 hours (give or take) of news broadcasting each day?
I compare it to that. Always room for a face lift/image rebrand.
You bring up a good point, Andy. Perhaps they are filling excess space with something else, whether it's behind the scenes stuff or stuff we'll see eventually.
And I'm going to stick with what I said earlier...these pictures are underwhelming (in my opinion). Very anxious for the final result tomorrow!
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With all the long form programming TWC has, do they really need a big set?
I'm surprised they are even getting a new studio. The other one was pretty spiffy.
I am also surprised they are updating the studio. Going along with what Eric said, if they are increasing long-form, what is the purpose of even remodeling the studio? However, I wonder if they are trying to confine the studio to a smaller space now, and they will be filling the excess space with something else we don’t know about yet?
Many of you seem confused as to why they would do a face lift to the set if there's a decrease in air time, and I get it. But here's a question: why do local television stations change their sets when they have less than 7 hours (give or take) of news broadcasting each day?
I compare it to that. Always room for a face lift/image rebrand.
You bring up a good point, Andy. Perhaps they are filling excess space with something else, whether it's behind the scenes stuff or stuff we'll see eventually.
And I'm going to stick with what I said earlier...these pictures are underwhelming (in my opinion). Very anxious for the final result tomorrow!
I agree with everything you said! Everyone does seem confused on why they changed their set. But your right! I know my local station changes their set often when they don't even need to and being only on the air for less than 7 hours a day. Your also right when saying the pictures are underwhelming. I can't wait to see the final product tomorrow. I'm so excited!!!! :biggrin:
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Mike tweeted a pic of the set! It's looks great but, I can't post it. Wake Up With AL is on the Video Wall so the name is staying.
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Mike tweeted a pic of the set! It's looks great but, I can't post it. Wake Up With AL is on the Video Wall so the name is staying.
In addition to that ^
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/563699_10151757464988443_1102246722_n.jpg)
Why am I feeling a slight sense of nostalgia when I look at this?
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From Jen on Twitter:
Tmrw, join @TWCAlexWallace & me for the 1st show in a new look on @weatherchannel! 4am EST #WeatherCenterLive http://bit.ly/1bnMegz (http://bit.ly/1bnMegz)
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This is interesting. On the weather channel feedback forum the idea for "What happened to the smooth jazz on the local on the 8s?" It has been changed from Open for voting to Acknowledged. Changed 4 days ago. Originaly it was Jazmine Maddox who responded but now it says Steve Windham? :thinking: Although the response has not changed every other requests in the forum have been acknowledged? Who knows what this means for us?
EDIT: All the posts for the TV section of feedback.weather.com (http://feedback.weather.com) is gone?
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"We are getting back to our roots as a company," said David Clark, president, Weather Channel. "We wanted to get back to the core idea that this is a place where people get the weather."
"Mr. Clark said the network had been missing opportunities to capture passion around the weather. It deviated a bit from its core mission in 2010, when it ramped up its reality TV programming and reduced its coverage of the weather. While it will continue to air shows like "Coast Guard Alaska," which follows Coast Guard members as they train and work, the network is adding science-driven, weather-centric, long-form documentaries on Sunday nights under the label "Natural Drama." "
That's funny. They are still airing junk like Prospectors that has nothing to do with weather and they cut back on the live hours for more taped programming just like they did in 2010.
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http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-gets-new-look-set-mantra_b203159 (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-gets-new-look-set-mantra_b203159)
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[url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-gets-new-look-set-mantra_b203159[/url] ([url]http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-gets-new-look-set-mantra_b203159[/url])
^^ I was just going to post this article.
Interesting excerpt: "Mornings, the network’s most popular daypart, will feature a new set and new graphics and a new marketing campaign. Among total viewers for Q3 2013-to-date, the 6-9am block trails Fox News, MSNBC and CNN, but with 233,000 viewers, tops HLN (208,000) and CNBC (114,000)."
This could be an answer to all your questions about the changing of the set if they are cutting back.
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Mike tweeted a pic of the set! It's looks great but, I can't post it. Wake Up With AL is on the Video Wall so the name is staying.
In addition to that ^
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/563699_10151757464988443_1102246722_n.jpg)
Why am I feeling a slight sense of nostalgia when I look at this?
Man, a nice clear photo really does that set justice.
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No more DP and no LO8 LDL during first segment of prospectors.
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No more DP and no LO8 LDL during first segment of prospectors.
Everything is debuting tomorrow, so don't expect any changes yet. ;)
Thanks for posting Mike's crystal clear picture Ana! I wish they would do another panoramic of the finished product.
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No more DP and no LO8 LDL during first segment of prospectors.
Everything is debuting tomorrow, so don't expect any changes yet. ;)
Thanks for posting Mike's crystal clear picture Ana! I wish they would do another panoramic of the finished product.
True but I do find it intresting that there's been no LO8 LDL this afternoon yet.
EDIT: never mind, regular LO8 LDL at 1:38PM CT
Look what I found on TVNewser: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-gets-new-look-set-mantra_b203159 (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/weather-channel-gets-new-look-set-mantra_b203159)
Also pics are coming in from Paul, Kim and Shawn Reynolds on twtter but their not crystal clear. Ana, how did you get Mike's crystal clear?
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Is there ANY chance that they will be doing live weather after 8pm weekdays and 2pm weekends? Or do we pretty much have concrete info that that is the new schedule. I guess I'm just kinda hoping maybe they are gonna make Sunday afternoons and evenings all reality shows with that latest press release and focus more on weather the other days. But I know that's not likely at all and very wishful thinking. Just seems like they are going to try to incorporate more weather related shows.
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Just saw the LOT8 LDL at 1:38 CST.
Mike's picture of the set is clear because he's either using a better camera or taking a better picture.
And if mornings is TWC's most popular daypart, and it's pulling in just 233,000 in total viewers...yikes. What are those primetime shows pulling in?
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Interesting line from the MB article:
"HD viewers will see an enhanced sidebar (shown above) with more detailed weather information including barometric pressure, tides and moon phases"
Wonder if the full sidebar will make it to the SD viewers? We'll know soon enough! :bleh:
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Is there ANY chance that they will be doing live weather after 8pm weekdays and 2pm weekends? Or do we pretty much have concrete info that that is the new schedule. I guess I'm just kinda hoping maybe they are gonna make Sunday afternoons and evenings all reality shows with that latest press release and focus more on weather the other days. But I know that's not likely at all and very wishful thinking. Just seems like they are going to try to incorporate more weather related shows.
No. They are only going live after 8pm weekdays and 2pm weekends to cover sever weather and OCMs have already shifted time slots.
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Interesting line from the MB article:
"HD viewers will see an enhanced sidebar (shown above) with more detailed weather information including barometric pressure, tides and moon phases"
Wonder if the full sidebar will make it to the SD viewers? We'll know soon enough! :bleh:
Probably not. What that does imply is that the SD feed isn't going away - which makes sense, considering the IS2 still isn't rolled out everywhere yet.
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The set looks nice, it's somewhat reminiscent to how Day Planner was set up w/ the city backdrop. In fact it's also like a condensed version of the previous studio set imo. Maybe too condensed, it looks kinda cramped in that photo on the previous page.
EDIT: Heck, they even kept one thing in connection to the old set and that's the yellow light pillars, well a revised version of them.
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I'm wondering if the locals will stay at a minute long. Judging by the video, it's about a minute and ten seconds and the local ends abruptly when Nissan Commercial airs. They didn't even go through the Beyond and Summary pages.
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I'm assuming the promo was just to give a taste of what's to come, not show the new format in its entirety.
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new video from DC.. now im officially pumped. :dance:
103113 twc montage v3 final h264 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/78421357)
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new video from DC.. now im officially pumped. :dance:
103113 twc montage v3 final h264 on Vimeo ([url]http://vimeo.com/78421357[/url])
heres another one he posted 4 months ago! im guessing this is what it was supposed to look like at first?
02 TWC MONTAGE FINAL (1) on Vimeo ([url]http://vimeo.com/68905988[/url])
Wow some of those graphics are insane! They look so good!!
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new video from DC.. now im officially pumped. :dance:
103113 twc montage v3 final h264 on Vimeo ([url]http://vimeo.com/78421357[/url])
This makes the 2008 HD graphics look like an embarrassing child's play. +10 I love it! :twothumbs:
I love how animated and lively the live show openers are. I think Morning Rush was the best one to illustrate that look and it really works. :yes: It's a damn shame they didn't go in this direction 5 years ago, I feel like we were cheated. :P
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new video from DC.. now im officially pumped. :dance:
103113 twc montage v3 final h264 on Vimeo ([url]http://vimeo.com/78421357[/url])
heres another one he posted 4 months ago! im guessing this is what it was supposed to look like at first?
02 TWC MONTAGE FINAL (1) on Vimeo ([url]http://vimeo.com/68905988[/url])
One Word: Wow!
The question to be answered tomorrow: Are these graphics generated from a 9-year old IntelliStar or a completely new system?
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if you notice in the video, there's one city mentioned in the LOT8's when they're flipping through thats not a major city, so there's hope!. sadly it looks like the sidebar will be missing from SD broadcasts, they could've letterboxed like espn.
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What's going to debut tomorrow looks far better than the version 1.0 video.
There was something interesting in that 1.0 video, though: looks like they were going to change the name of the website to theweather.com - which already exists, so perhaps that put a kibosh on the idea.
Or maybe they're holding that until tomorrow.
Either way, the new look, uh, looks pretty good. Did I even see a couple of different varieties of LOT8s - including an OCM-hosted one?
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I'm excited for these changes. Everything looks great!
Probably not. What that does imply is that the SD feed isn't going away - which makes sense, considering the IS2 still isn't rolled out everywhere yet.
The SD feed was never going to leave us. What everyone was talking about was the analog feed, which powers the legacy STARs (I personally think they'll make it. They likely just wont be cued as much. The simple fix is to run the LDLs if they are proportionate to the new format). The IntelliStar and IS2 run on the digital feed ;)
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The video showing the OCM during the Local On The 8's is what they do already during long form just updated for the new graphics.
I'm ok with remodeled studio not making use of the full space. The area on the side with the small desk was not used that much and the lighting was not good.
I'm guessing they are still going to use the space to the right of the green screen.
Here is Kelly at the video windows,
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1399668_10152014217034390_1366367283_o.jpg
Kim in the new studio, https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/541774_10153486180500724_521571854_n.jpg
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I am dying to know what weatherscan is gonna look like! (I'm a little new here so If i post this where I am not supposed to just tell me!) I live in Texas so I don't have weatherscan
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So this is it. The hour of studio programming before the new look launches.
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After the launch of the new studio I wonder if they have plans to re do or enhance studio 1C?
When they had finished 1C they had a nice area on the right side with chairs and a couch that they did not use much.
It just seems like it could be used for much more than an alternate studio when they are working on the main HD Studio 9.
Here is one of the designs they did not go with. Notice it has the video windows that the remolded studio has.
http://www.scenariocustom.com/2012/10/the-weather-channel-1-c/ (http://www.scenariocustom.com/2012/10/the-weather-channel-1-c/)
http://www.scenariocustom.com/2012/10/twc-studio-1-c-alt/ (http://www.scenariocustom.com/2012/10/twc-studio-1-c-alt/)
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So this is it. The hour of studio programming before the new look launches.
good riddance, lol, im ready for it to go...
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If you're curious, here's the press release outlining the changes. (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/11/11/the-weather-channel-unveils-new-brand-identity-and-all-new-network-visual-identity/214804/?utm_campaign=WP%20%3E%20Twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter)
This stood out to me:
New Local on the 8s: Entirely new graphical look for Local on the 8s, coupled with new audio, will present a richer, more detailed local weather forecast every 10 minutes.
I wonder if they just made LOT8s music and are moving away from music from outside sources.
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Here's the page they did for the launch of Studio 9 in 2008,
http://www.weather.com/tv/studio/index.html (http://www.weather.com/tv/studio/index.html)
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these new graphics have been making me go crazy!! :dance: :rofl2: :blink: :blink: :no: :hammer: :yawn: I really think they made me bipolar.Well at least they come out tomorrow :biggrin:
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If you're curious, here's the press release outlining the changes. ([url]http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/11/11/the-weather-channel-unveils-new-brand-identity-and-all-new-network-visual-identity/214804/?utm_campaign=WP%20%3E%20Twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter[/url])
This stood out to me:
New Local on the 8s: Entirely new graphical look for Local on the 8s, coupled with new audio, will present a richer, more detailed local weather forecast every 10 minutes.
I wonder if they just made LOT8s music and are moving away from music from outside sources.
Maybe they'll use the new logo music in that awesome vimeo video, Which isn't bad.
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introduce Sunday nights as a destination long-form programming block. These changes mark the beginning of an evolution for The Weather Channel that will continue through 2014.
wonder what else they have planned?
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If you're curious, here's the press release outlining the changes. ([url]http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/11/11/the-weather-channel-unveils-new-brand-identity-and-all-new-network-visual-identity/214804/?utm_campaign=WP%20%3E%20Twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter[/url])
This stood out to me:
New Local on the 8s: Entirely new graphical look for Local on the 8s, coupled with new audio, will present a richer, more detailed local weather forecast every 10 minutes.
I wonder if they just made LOT8s music and are moving away from music from outside sources.
Question is will the real LO8 happen during longform every 10 min??????
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New expert desk as well! @WCL_Shawn: The Expert Desk area is also getting a makeover http://t.co/MFcZIG5z6P (http://t.co/MFcZIG5z6P) he said this as a follow up: @WCL_Shawn: @weeddude yup. I'm so excited. Everything is coming together for tomorrow's launch. Maybe debuting tomorrow??
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This is going to be a big relaunch! New Graphics, New Schedule, New Studio, New LOT8s
I think this thread should be renamed "2013 TWC Relaunch"
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wow! thats the monitor that david clark was playing with in his pic he posted. that thing is HUGE
and a vine video of morning rush set
https://vine.co/v/hTODXgUHhX1 (https://vine.co/v/hTODXgUHhX1)
here's the full set including the other half..
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYz0o6FIAAAZwFJ.jpg:large)
who else will be up at 4am et?
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Okay, okay. I change my mind. The new studio and graphics look great as the finished product. The new studio is fantastic. :yes:
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wow! thats the monitor that david clark was playing with in his pic he posted. that thing is HUGE
and a vine video of morning rush set
https://vine.co/v/hTODXgUHhX1 (https://vine.co/v/hTODXgUHhX1)
here's the full set including the other half..
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYz0o6FIAAAZwFJ.jpg:large)
who else will be up at 4am et?
Video won't play. Is it any good?
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just has the morning rush logo, and the set is in yellow accent lighting
(http://i.imgur.com/qO8jfTW.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/MLCxBiG.png)
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just has the morning rush logo, and the set is in yellow accent lighting
Thanks!
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wow! thats the monitor that david clark was playing with in his pic he posted. that thing is HUGE
and a vine video of morning rush set
https://vine.co/v/hTODXgUHhX1 (https://vine.co/v/hTODXgUHhX1)
here's the full set including the other half..
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYz0o6FIAAAZwFJ.jpg:large)
who else will be up at 4am et?
Video won't play. Is it any good?
Look at the green screen, looks like it's not on the floor anymore!
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Amazing, almost futuristic looking!
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I really hope the video that was posted depicting the changes is what the graphics will actually look like and not just a mock-up. They're very good! :D I guess we'll know in about 6 1/2 hours.
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I really hope the video that was posted depicting the changes is what the graphics will actually look like and not just a mock-up. They're very good! :D I guess we'll know in about 6 1/2 hours.
aside from the expert desk, im sure it will look exactly the same. I'm so pumped I can't sleep... i don't wanna wait, I keep hoping they will let it slip after midnight :bleh:
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I'm gonna set a timer on my DVD recorder for the 4AM ET (1AM PT my time) graphical update tomorrow on the SD channel. Can't wait! :happy:
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i'd set it for 30 minutes ahead of time.. you never know..
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I'm gonna set it up for 4am - 5am. Hopefully the 'playlist' is changed too. ^_^
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Sarah Dillingham @THESarahD29 2m
It ain't over till it's over! Dedicated GFX peeps pull a double @weatherchannel making final tweaks to NEW graphics! pic.twitter.com/VG6UwoELee
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY13lnUIQAAeZVq.jpg)
kim and mark
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY1eremIUAAEhD3.jpg:large)
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My question is how are all of the Intellistars going change at once if they are at our cable headends? Is there some kind of button at the TWC HQ's they push and it sends the new GFX to the Intellistars all at once?
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My question is how are all of the Intellistars going change at once if they are at our cable headends? Is there some kind of button at the TWC HQ's they push and it sends the new GFX to the Intellistars all at once?
From what I understand and based on previous large-scale updates (August 15, 2005; October 23, 2007; June 2, 2008; and March 11, 2010), the update is downloaded by the STAR ahead of time and then TWC sends a reboot/reset command to the STAR a few minutes before the changeover is set to happen which triggers the change.
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has it been determined if its just intellistar 2 that will update or will intellistar update too?
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My question is how are all of the Intellistars going change at once if they are at our cable headends? Is there some kind of button at the TWC HQ's they push and it sends the new GFX to the Intellistars all at once?
From what I understand and based on previous large-scale updates (August 15, 2005; October 23, 2007; June 2, 2008; and March 11, 2010), the update is downloaded by the STAR ahead of time and then TWC sends a reboot/reset command to the STAR a few minutes before the changeover is set to happen which triggers the change.
Good Information! Good to know!! Thanks :biggrin:
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has it been determined if its just intellistar 2 that will update or will intellistar update too?
Good question! I'm wondering the same thing. I hope both STAR's change...
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I don't watch TWC as much as I used to - namely because I don't have a lot of time. However, since I found out they were doing a relaunch of the channel, I've been tuning in a lot more. I like this overall look and I can't wait to see it in action.
I'd imagine the update for the local forecast would go to both the Intellistar and the I2.
Another question is what kind of surprises will we see when they are updated? When the Intellistar was updated when they launched in HD, it had a new style LDL and instead of my location of Pittsfield, it had Bousquet. It was fixed a short time later.
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They've stated they like the overall look - which means they've seen the videos. I believe they're referring to little quirks, like the aforementioned location changes.
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They've stated they like the overall look - which means they've seen the videos. I believe they're referring to little quirks, like the aforementioned location changes.
Yes, exactly...
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http://www.weather.com/tv/tvshows/new-look/main (http://www.weather.com/tv/tvshows/new-look/main)
This just popped up on weather.com.
Look under Local on the 8s - that's what I meant by OCM-hosted LOT8s. The bottom right picture shows Local on the 8s - Boston, but with an OCM. Extended use of the dual feed in major markets?
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last minute rehearsals - Chris Warren
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY2PJNQIcAEuerv.jpg)
three hours!!
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http://feedback.weather.com/knowledgebase/articles/280686-what-has-changed-on-the-the-weather-channel-network (http://feedback.weather.com/knowledgebase/articles/280686-what-has-changed-on-the-the-weather-channel-network)
"HD viewers will also get an enhanced sidebar with richer weather information such as barometric pressure, tides and moon phases as well as show rundown information."
My guess is the SD feed is going to be letterboxed video moved to the top of screen and the below the video is going to be the LDL.
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yeah, someone had posted that earlier today, just hoping they letterbox it for sd... although they probably wont. It's not hard though! espn and foxsports1 do it.
Jen Carfagno and Alex Wallace will kick it off.
from Jen Carfagno:
T-1 hr to the launch of the new studio! It's ready. #WeatherCenterLive @weatherchannel pic.twitter.com/QT87TiI1tY
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY2xOCCCAAAia3J.jpg)
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That blue thing to the left of the Weather Center Live logo looks like a target.
http://us.cdn3.123rf.com/168nwm/speedfighter/speedfighter1004/speedfighter100400176/6854573-sniper-target-scope-or-sight-isolated-on-white-background.jpg (http://us.cdn3.123rf.com/168nwm/speedfighter/speedfighter1004/speedfighter100400176/6854573-sniper-target-scope-or-sight-isolated-on-white-background.jpg)
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i believe it is a target, or maybe a radar symbol of some type. Maybe its a nod to "WeatherScope"? idk.
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That blue thing to the left of the Weather Center Live logo looks like a target.
[url]http://us.cdn3.123rf.com/168nwm/speedfighter/speedfighter1004/speedfighter100400176/6854573-sniper-target-scope-or-sight-isolated-on-white-background.jpg[/url] ([url]http://us.cdn3.123rf.com/168nwm/speedfighter/speedfighter1004/speedfighter100400176/6854573-sniper-target-scope-or-sight-isolated-on-white-background.jpg[/url])
Meant to resemble a radar. it will likely have a sweeping animation
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What a letdown. HD feed is letterboxed on SD, and being that we don't have the IntelliStar 2, we see the national feed. Many viewers will be unhappy if they don't have the IS2.
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Not the smoothest launch
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2j28hoh.png)
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local weather my butt, can't believe that. I had my local weather 5 minutes ago!
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What a letdown. HD feed is letterboxed on SD, and being that we don't have the IntelliStar 2, we see the national feed. Many viewers will be unhappy if they don't have the IS2.
The IS will be updated but that is a longer rollout.
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local weather my butt, can't believe that. I had my local weather 5 minutes ago!
Patience
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local weather my butt, can't believe that. I had my local weather 5 minutes ago!
Well it launched 7 minutes ago-give it a few and see what happens.
Viewing the satellite LF. Wonderful music-but everything is too small-can't read it. Also, it lasted maybe 30 seconds....hiccup perhaps?
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Very impressed by the local
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Well it launched 7 minutes ago-give it a few and see what happens.
will do... just had flashbacks to the last relaunch, didn't think the same problems would happen...
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Glad they are finally formatting maps and video for 16:9.
(http://t.imgbox.com/acnXip3B.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acnXip3B) (http://t.imgbox.com/acwVRV1u.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acwVRV1u) (http://t.imgbox.com/aciGfw7g.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/aciGfw7g)
They need to adjust the lighting at the green screen it's to dark.
Music under the forecast segments has to go! It's distracting and annoying.
Don't like snow being blue on the maps. It should be white.
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Don't like snow being blue on the maps. It should be white.
Too much confusion when they show cloud cover. WSI has transitioned to blue and so have many stations who use their products.
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Here are some shots from the SD feed. No local weather on the LOT8s or LDL yet.
(http://i.imgur.com/IhWrcqK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xERUkwB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PzQpvZM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QFzm5H9.jpg)
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Nothing seemed to happen here during the first Local on the 8's a few minutes ago here in Lake Havasu City, Arizona.
The gray bar at the bottom of the screen went blank, i heard music playing for about 5 seconds while the rest of the screen was a still image (nothing happened)
Then it looked like i got the satellite feed during the whole LOT8's, the bar at the bottom was still empty until it ended.
It never showed any "local" info here.
Just like the 2nd-to-last image beanboy89 posted
edit: looks like full satellete feed currently at this momment now, 2:18 AM. no bar at the bottom at all, i like that! :)
And im glad there's no more voice-over narration.
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TWC please stop calling it a 7 day forecast when you don't have enough time to show 7 Days.
Just now they only went from Today to Saturday. Go back to the Weekly Planner and make it 5 days.
Once again the music under the forecasts has to go.
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Just an observation, but a lot of the text, icons and maps seem too small. Seemed most problematic for viewing during the 7 day forecast and national LOT8 feed.
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im happy with the overall format, im guessing they will have some tweaks and itll get better..
whoa, local on the 8s just zoomed fullscreen on SD without the LDL. I can't wait til HD comes back (comcast :club:) q
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What a letdown. HD feed is letterboxed on SD, and being that we don't have the IntelliStar 2, we see the national feed. Many viewers will be unhappy if they don't have the IS2.
The IS will be updated but that is a longer rollout.
So you're saying like sometime today, or within the next few months?
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What a letdown. HD feed is letterboxed on SD, and being that we don't have the IntelliStar 2, we see the national feed. Many viewers will be unhappy if they don't have the IS2.
The IS will be updated but that is a longer rollout.
So you're saying like sometime today, or within the next few months?
Martin correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe what is being referred to the time to download the update and reset with the firmware/software update
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The National Local Forecast is still being formatted for 4:3. lot's of empty space on the right.
(http://t.imgbox.com/acqzHY1P.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acqzHY1P) (http://t.imgbox.com/abjpM1b8.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abjpM1b8)
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TWC please stop calling it a 7 day forecast when you don't have enough time to show 7 Days.
Just now they only went from Today to Saturday. Go back to the Weekly Planner and make it 5 days.
Once again the music under the forecasts has to go.
Huh?
What a letdown. HD feed is letterboxed on SD, and being that we don't have the IntelliStar 2, we see the national feed. Many viewers will be unhappy if they don't have the IS2.
The IS will be updated but that is a longer rollout.
So you're saying like sometime today, or within the next few months?
All I heard is that there were delays but nothing specific. I would expect within the day but you never know. Rolling out a major update to hundreds of ten year old computers can take time :P
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The XL is still queuing on my LFs
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Daytona Beach has had a few teething troubles, but that's to be expected.
Starting at 4:00 the local LDL was transparent, so you could see both the local and national LDLs. The sidebar was national. Then came the local forecast, then only the local LDL and sidebar. Then the next local foreacst, and, after a couple of seconds of local over national LDL, we're back to only national LDL and sidebar.
Comparing the new local forecast segment, I'm not terribly impressed. A lot of empty, wasted space, and I'm not a fan of the über-minimalist graphics. The LDL is a good start, but I'd like to see some tweaking here and there. Better than the old IS LDL, but I miss the old IS2 LDL. The sidebar is a good idea, but largely wasted right now.
And, for some reason, the local forecast segment has a desert background... in Daytona Beach, Florida. :dunno:
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TWC please stop calling it a 7 day forecast when you don't have enough time to show 7 Days.
Just now they only went from Today to Saturday. Go back to the Weekly Planner and make it 5 days.
Once again the music under the forecasts has to go.
Huh?
What a letdown. HD feed is letterboxed on SD, and being that we don't have the IntelliStar 2, we see the national feed. Many viewers will be unhappy if they don't have the IS2.
The IS will be updated but that is a longer rollout.
So you're saying like sometime today, or within the next few months?
All I heard is that there were delays but nothing specific. I would expect within the next day or so but that could change. Rolling out a major update to hundreds of ten year old computers can take time :P
Does this mean that the whole TV screen is going to be squished down inside of a box around the whole TV size ?? Sorry im not very good at explaining, but i seriously hope that dont happen here. I have a regular CRT TV, not no fancy HD led, whatever.
It would make me so mad if this channel puts the whole entire station inside of a box like that. (black space around all 4 corners). :( Some of the local phoenix channels here do that and i HATE it soooo much.
I seriously hope it dont happen to TWC, i perfer full screen as it is right now.
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Here's the HD National Forecast:
TWC - NEW "Weather All the Time" HD National Forecast - November 12, 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-CR-po84B4#ws)
Also, for those wondering, nothing has happened with Weatherscan yet.
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Does this mean that the whole TV screen is going to be squished down inside of a box around the whole TV size ?? Sorry im not very good at explaining, but i seriously hope that dont happen here. I have a regular CRT TV, not no fancy HD led, whatever.
It would make me so mad if this channel puts the whole entire station inside of a box like that. (black space around all 4 corners). :( Some of the local phoenix channels here do that and i HATE it soooo much.
I seriously hope it dont happen to TWC, i perfer full screen
Letterbox is here to stay. Sorry but thats just the future for every cable and broadcast network. Every OTA station in my market has gone to letterbox format. I'm surprised it took them this long
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TWC please stop calling it a 7 day forecast when you don't have enough time to show 7 Days.
Just now they only went from Today to Saturday. Go back to the Weekly Planner and make it 5 days.
Once again the music under the forecasts has to go.
Huh?
Ever since TWC switched from the Weekly Planner 5 Day forecast to the 7 Day Forecast they never have enough time to go through 7 Days of forecasts.
I'm saying go back to 5 days because they seem to have enough time to go through 5 days.
Wow that WCL theme is annoying and it plays under every forecast segment. :no:
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Very impressed so far. Here's my observations:
- IntelliStar appeared to crash on first LOT8s run. The screen started spazzing out.
- IntelliStar 2 updated, initially didn't show backgrounds for the LDL (and side bar). Works now after first local.
- My XL is still downloading conditions and chugging along. Read the time stamp and it's current. So yay, the legacies will live on B)
Any idea on how long these IStars will take to finish updating?
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TWC please stop calling it a 7 day forecast when you don't have enough time to show 7 Days.
Just now they only went from Today to Saturday. Go back to the Weekly Planner and make it 5 days.
Once again the music under the forecasts has to go.
Huh?
Ever since TWC switched from the Weekly Planner 5 day forecast to the 7 Day Forecast they never have enough time to go through 7 Days of forecasts.
I'm saying go back to 5 days because they seem to have enough time to go through 5 days.
Wow that WCL theme is annoying and it plays under every forecast segment. :no:
Oh I see what you're saying. Yea that's a good point. They probably should avoid any mention of the number of days just to be safe
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Does this mean that the whole TV screen is going to be squished down inside of a box around the whole TV size ?? Sorry im not very good at explaining, but i seriously hope that dont happen here. I have a regular CRT TV, not no fancy HD led, whatever.
It would make me so mad if this channel puts the whole entire station inside of a box like that. (black space around all 4 corners). :( Some of the local phoenix channels here do that and i HATE it soooo much.
I seriously hope it dont happen to TWC, i perfer full screen as it is right now.
Unfortunately you're quickly slipping into the minority. It solves a lot of problems for TV stations and networks to be able to broadcast the 16:9 letterbox feed-namely regard graphics and video formatting. CRTs are all but extinct, so don't expect networks or stations to bend over backwards for them much longer.
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Hate to be like this, but couldn't help but notice that Memphis is not on the
LDL LDA, not on the airport delays, and nowhere to be found anywhere on the national forecast (even though in the test video Memphis was on the LDL LDA). Hurry up IntelliStar...
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YES!! LOCAL WEATHER!! radar looks weird, but ill take it!
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Hate the radar on the SD IntelliStar. I can't even read the cities :rolleyes:
Anyone else seeing black video on the SD feed with iStars?
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YES!! LOCAL WEATHER!! radar looks weird, but ill take it!
Biggest issue I noticed ony the radar was the font color-black is impossible to read against a dark green basemap. But I'm really impressed with it on the whole.
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The radar... :sick:
Hate the radar on the SD IntelliStar. I can't even read the cities :rolleyes:
Anyone else seeing black video on the SD feed with iStars?
Yep. I was.
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yeah the font was weird, and i only got black video for the commercials after LOT8s
i really like the intros to the LOT8s, pretty clever..
and did anyone notice we have intrumental LOT8s back?!
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Gallery of SD LF:
http://imgur.com/aaL3ad1,pBGpxXd,UYuUvmN,0AqhgcN,KlSfH0E,48bvALy,kpNcafq (http://imgur.com/aaL3ad1,pBGpxXd,UYuUvmN,0AqhgcN,KlSfH0E,48bvALy,kpNcafq)
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Ad crawl:
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My IntelliStar just buzzed during this last LF. :)
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I also don't like the shields on the radar or state routes (white boxes). Looks too ugly. But the concept as a whole isn't half bad. The ad crawl works fine for me as well.
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I think my SD IS is still installing. It's coasting right past the hourly forecast, ending a few seconds early, getting a few seconds of the national LOT8s, and then a bit of blue or black screen before video comes back.
Hope that new map pack comes soon, using the old maps with that black font doesn't work at all.
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Mine is also ending early.
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when the local forecast first started local, the radar map was a dark puke green, with the black font, then on the next one it was the normal map with black font, im guessing it just takes a while to load. these maps they're using on weather center live are great, but you can't read the font at all on SD, i wish they would just letter box rather than zoom to SD.
the lot8s keep buzzing at the same spot each time lol. also noticed during the now screen the temperature actually changed while it was up. went from 54 to 53. i thought it was pretty cool
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yeah the font was weird, and i only got black video for the commercials after LOT8s
i really like the intros to the LOT8s, pretty clever..
and did anyone notice we have intrumental LOT8s back?!
Yeah i noticed it & it sounded pretty good i like it so far.
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Weather alert scroll! There is a major problem however that someone that has connections may want to report. Even though the scroll is labeled as Wind Advisory in red, it scrolls all of the alerts that are in effect without changing the label (we are under a Wind Advisory and and Hard Freeze Watch, both scroll but label stays as Wind Advisory).
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Maybe it's just me...but, I feel like in watching live weather coverage more now. If just feels like they're not at commercial as much. Yes, the pace is quick, but it feels like a lot more live, and a lot less commercial.
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Ad crawl:
Lucky! we're under a wind advisory too but haven't gotten the scroll yet...
yes! map just changed from green to white...
i would like to apologize for not being patient earlier.... lol
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TWC - NEW Memphis IntelliStar "Weather All the Time" - November 12, 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2QM-lYmoX0#ws)
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1 more quick question.
Is it just "temporary" that the local on 8's play's this 1 single song repeatedly over and over again ??
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1 more quick question.
Is it just "temporary" that the local on 8's play's this 1 single song repeatedly over and over again ??
Too early to tell. So far, it would appear that it's this one piece, and that's it. We won't really know until tonight at the earliest.
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1 more quick question.
Is it just "temporary" that the local on 8's play's this 1 single song repeatedly over and over again ??
Too early to tell. So far, it would appear that it's this one piece, and that's it. We won't really know until tonight at the earliest.
oh okay, alright then.
Im actually happy that there isnt automated voice-overs anymore. I never liked that really over these past several years, where the computer voice talks over every single screen almost completely blocking out most of the music usually.
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1 more quick question.
Is it just "temporary" that the local on 8's play's this 1 single song repeatedly over and over again ??
Too early to tell. So far, it would appear that it's this one piece, and that's it. We won't really know until tonight at the earliest.
oh okay, alright then.
Im just happy that we dont need to listen to the automated voice-overs anymore. I never liked that really over these past few years, where the computer voice talks over every single screen almost completely blocking out the songs.
Vocal Local was great, until some genius thought it'd be a good idea to slap some songs with lyrics underneath it-terrible idea. Also, it may just be my ears, but I think I'm hearing subtle changes in the LF track as the morning progresses.
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TWC - Memphis IntelliStar - Wind Advisory/Hard Freeze Warning - November 12, 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta-oc0gr1rM#ws)
Here's a video showing the warning crawl error, how the label doesn't change for multiple alerts.
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1 more quick question.
Is it just "temporary" that the local on 8's play's this 1 single song repeatedly over and over again ??
yes
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I was hoping for a return of the ID but oh well. However, THANK YOU for adding Clouds to the HD National LO8!!!!! I've been wanting that since TWC HD debued! Also, My guess was right, TWC is using their new Theme for the LO8 which is fine with me!
Also, I love the backrouds of the LO8 showing Daylight coming to the East, now the Central region.
Why are some people saying its letterboxed? The DISH SD channel is not letterboxed shouldn't all SD feeds be the same way?
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I forgot to add, THANK YOU for putting the time back on the LDL!
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Hate the radar on the SD IntelliStar. I can't even read the cities :rolleyes:
Anyone else seeing black video on the SD feed with iStars?
This is one of the bugs I was told about. Remember the intellistars have basemaps that are around 2gb. Thats a lot of data that needs to be downloaded. The maps now aren't the final solution. Newer maps should populate over time though it could be a while.
A few of you are already seeing the new maps populate
(http://i41.tinypic.com/35a2h5v.png)
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Martin do you know what, if anything, is going to happen with Weatherscan?
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Martin do you know what, if anything, is going to happen with Weatherscan?
No I haven't heard of anything. As far as I know there hasn't been any further development of that platform but I could be wrong. My guess is that it will be supported for a few more years and eventually discontinued.
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All I can say is.... WOW! :thrilled:
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The radar... :sick:
Hate the radar on the SD IntelliStar. I can't even read the cities :rolleyes:
Anyone else seeing black video on the SD feed with iStars?
Yep. I was.
You have a different colored radar topography map than mine, the one I'm seeing on my LF is like the one in the demo videos that were posted here.
EDIT: Nevermind, I backtracked a few pages. If I had of kept reading I would have gotten my answer. :P
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The radar... :sick:
Hate the radar on the SD IntelliStar. I can't even read the cities :rolleyes:
Anyone else seeing black video on the SD feed with iStars?
Yep. I was.
You have a different colored radar topography map than mine, the one I'm seeing on my LF is like the one in the demo videos that were posted here.
That should be updated by now if it isn't already.. the "different topography" you're referring to is in fact the original 2004-2013 IS basemap :P
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New Orleans SD IS got the correct maps - it finished during a LOT8. First radar shots still green, by summary it was white.
I will say it looks like the font needs to be bolder on the radar maps, it's kinda hard to read on SD. Haven't had a chance to look at HD yet.
Just had a "complete" LOT8 - looked pretty tight, with no rejoin issues.
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New Orleans SD IS got the correct maps - it finished during a LOT8. First radar shots still green, by summary it was white.
I will say it looks like the font needs to be bolder on the radar maps, it's kinda hard to read on SD. Haven't had a chance to look at HD yet.
Just had a "complete" LOT8 - looked pretty tight, with no rejoin issues.
im just south of ya, radar map has updated, transitions are better, only thing left is the actual radar should be changing from this pixelated, drop-shadow looking stuff to the more smooth radar like online... according to the preview videos.
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I also see my LF likes to tell jokes huh.
Like this one I saw
Atlanta, will you need an ark, we NOAA guy. :rolleyes: :lol:
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One of the ones that I saw:
Memphis, nobody puts Cantore in a corner.
So the IntelliStar is Mr. Funny now apparently lol
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Vids coming, here's a snippet from one of them.
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This must be apart of those errors that come with the launch, but I noticed there's no weather bulletin displaying yet even though were under a Freeze Warning and Wind Advisory. I haven't seen a crawl either. :no:
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same here, but Trevor posted video from memphis earlier that had the bulletin scroll. So its working some places, I'm sure in time it will work here too.
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The New Weather Channel: Locals and LDL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9JrDopx1PQ#)
The New Weather Channel: SD Launch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5wzKphKTg#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxx8l8fJ_po#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxx8l8fJ_po#ws)
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(http://i.imgur.com/UCI4wyl.png)
Definitely the IntelliStar there :o
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So far, I am liking the new look. However, I do have DirecTV and the LF look is the same as before.
BTW, some of yall are mighty impatient. There are glitches and adjustments to be made as the day progresses. Relax.
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It looks amazing! :D I like it, it's fresh. My Intellistar hasn't gone down yet. (knock on wood) I really like the uniformity that TWC finally has.
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So is that the new music format? Instrumentals?
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Finally had a chance to watch some of the HD Star in action, and it looks great. It did have a hiccup where the LDL went national out of a LOT8 that ended a few seconds early, and when it came back from commercial, only the right side of the L-Bar was local. Righted itself with the next LOT8s.
The IS2 is also mentioning the wind warning in effect tonight, and still has Cantore narration.
Went back and watched my DVR recording, and the IS2 was ready at 3am - though there was some trigger issues (and a possible reboot).
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New Local Forcast - November, 12 2013 - 4:18 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za4ulS_iFo4#)
New Local Forcast - November, 12 2013 - 4:38 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K33lNg7CNBA#)
New Local Forcast - November, 12 2013 - 4:58 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ixayv2QoFU#)
New Local Forcast - November, 12 2013 - 5:08 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpPud588CYo#)
The rollout of the new format as seen from Tampa
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Ok so now my final verdict on the new look! I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY like t a lot! The new IS and IS2 look awesome! By any chance does anyone know the name of the song that they keep playing over and over again during the LOT8's? I kinda like it. I also like it when the LOT8's first starts it says Good Morning and then something a little funny. Good job TWC!!!!! Well Done!!!! :clap:
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Okay, now that I'm home, I can say that the national feed doesn't look too bad either.
And Martin, you might want to tell the folks at TWC that the DirecTV's IntelliStar (and probably DISH's IntelliStar as well) are displaying the IS-generated clock on the LDL, when I don't think they're supposed to be. The one for DirecTV is stuck on pacific time and I'm sure the one on DISH is stuck on mountain time, and it's being overlayed atop the national clock that cycles through the timezones properly.
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Ok so now my final verdict on the new look! I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY like t a lot! The new IS and IS2 look awesome! By any chance does anyone know the name of the song that they keep playing over and over again during the LOT8's? I kinda like it. I also like it when the LOT8's first starts it says Good Morning and then something a little funny. Good job TWC!!!!! Well Done!!!! :clap:
It's part of their new sonic brand-most likely generated exclusively for them by ManMade Music.
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Why are some people saying its letterboxed? The DISH SD channel is not letterboxed shouldn't all SD feeds be the same way?
It depends on the cable company. My cable company replaced the SD feed with the IS with a letterboxed version of the HD feed with the IS2 a few months ago.
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Okay, now that I'm home, I can say that the national feed doesn't look too bad either.
And Martin, you might want to tell the folks at TWC that the DirecTV's IntelliStar (and probably DISH's IntelliStar as well) are displaying the IS-generated clock on the LDL, when I don't think they're supposed to be. The one for DirecTV is stuck on pacific time and I'm sure the one on DISH is stuck on mountain time, and it's being overlayed atop the national clock that cycles through the timezones properly.
There's nothing wrong with the clock on DISH
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Okay, now that I'm home, I can say that the national feed doesn't look too bad either.
And Martin, you might want to tell the folks at TWC that the DirecTV's IntelliStar (and probably DISH's IntelliStar as well) are displaying the IS-generated clock on the LDL, when I don't think they're supposed to be. The one for DirecTV is stuck on pacific time and I'm sure the one on DISH is stuck on mountain time, and it's being overlayed atop the national clock that cycles through the timezones properly.
There's nothing wrong with the clock on DISH
Is it cycling through the timezones properly or is it stuck on mountain time? :unsure:
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Okay, now that I'm home, I can say that the national feed doesn't look too bad either.
And Martin, you might want to tell the folks at TWC that the DirecTV's IntelliStar (and probably DISH's IntelliStar as well) are displaying the IS-generated clock on the LDL, when I don't think they're supposed to be. The one for DirecTV is stuck on pacific time and I'm sure the one on DISH is stuck on mountain time, and it's being overlayed atop the national clock that cycles through the timezones properly.
There's nothing wrong with the clock on DISH
Is it cycling through the timezones properly or is it stuck on mountain time? :unsure:
It never was stuck and I've been watching since WCL!
Still WUWA at 9AM CT Darn!
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Okay, now that I'm home, I can say that the national feed doesn't look too bad either.
And Martin, you might want to tell the folks at TWC that the DirecTV's IntelliStar (and probably DISH's IntelliStar as well) are displaying the IS-generated clock on the LDL, when I don't think they're supposed to be. The one for DirecTV is stuck on pacific time and I'm sure the one on DISH is stuck on mountain time, and it's being overlayed atop the national clock that cycles through the timezones properly.
There's nothing wrong with the clock on DISH
Is it cycling through the timezones properly or is it stuck on mountain time? :unsure:
It never was stuck and I've been watching since WCL!
Hmm that's weird. I'd imagine that the DISH STAR would be doing the same thing as the DirecTV STAR. Wonder why DirecTV managed to sneak in the update then.
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Okay, now that I'm home, I can say that the national feed doesn't look too bad either.
And Martin, you might want to tell the folks at TWC that the DirecTV's IntelliStar (and probably DISH's IntelliStar as well) are displaying the IS-generated clock on the LDL, when I don't think they're supposed to be. The one for DirecTV is stuck on pacific time and I'm sure the one on DISH is stuck on mountain time, and it's being overlayed atop the national clock that cycles through the timezones properly.
There's nothing wrong with the clock on DISH
Is it cycling through the timezones properly or is it stuck on mountain time? :unsure:
It never was stuck and I've been watching since WCL!
Hmm that's weird. I'd imagine that the DISH STAR would be doing the same thing as the DirecTV STAR. Wonder why DirecTV managed to sneak in the update then.
I concur, didn't see any issues on DISH with the clock. Possibly either the DirecTV STAR only has this issue and needs to be rebooted, or DISH may not even be running a star and it's just the raw national feed.
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This is real quick, but it looks like Cox is not letter-boxing SD either. We just don't get the right side bar on SD. Also, Jim Cantore's narrations are still on the HD Star (are we still calling it the IS2?). Not sure about SD. Was trying to flip back and forth, but the locals go too fast!!
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Does anyone have a way of setting up a stream? My cable is out.. .-. what great timing
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This is real quick, but it looks like Cox is not letter-boxing SD either. We just don't get the right side bar on SD. Also, Jim Cantore's narrations are still on the HD Star (are we still calling it the IS2?). Not sure about SD. Was trying to flip back and forth, but the locals go too fast!!
sadly no narration on SD
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Although I love the new look, it's light and modern and refreshing... I feel like LOT8's are rushed and less informative. For example, they don't detail tomorrow's forecast... just today and tonight and there's no hourly forecast for the day which I thought we were going to have from the videos I saw previewing the new look before. I wonder if those will be added or if this is it. I do like the new look overall tho... hope the background changes from the desert look lol. I live far from a desert. :P
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I'm enjoying the new changes. The new at the studio graphics are easy to read. :clap: The Fort Myers area has the hourly forecast on the local on the 8s. Fort Myers funny saying we won't tell that you called in sick :rofl2:
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I wish I could see this lol.
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Although I love the new look, it's light and modern and refreshing... I feel like LOT8's are rushed and less informative. For example, they don't detail tomorrow's forecast... just today and tonight and there's no hourly forecast for the day which I thought we were going to have from the videos I saw previewing the new look before. I wonder if those will be added or if this is it. I do like the new look overall tho... hope the background changes from the desert look lol. I live far from a desert. :P
It'll probably be there soon, I have it on my LF.
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My thoughts on the changes it's definitely fast paced i love the addition of the cities next to the radar map plus the jokes near the time clock absolutely funny although i will miss the narrations that to me was the staple of TWC for many years love the colors on the radar weather bar graph perfect & it looks like the vocals have been pushed to the end segments after each story or forecast overall a solid A for me good job WC crew.
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Although I love the new look, it's light and modern and refreshing... I feel like LOT8's are rushed and less informative. For example, they don't detail tomorrow's forecast... just today and tonight and there's no hourly forecast for the day which I thought we were going to have from the videos I saw previewing the new look before. I wonder if those will be added or if this is it. I do like the new look overall tho... hope the background changes from the desert look lol. I live far from a desert. :P
It'll probably be there soon, I have it on my LF.
I have the "Hello" screen, current conditions, local and regional radar screens, today's forecast in detail, tonight's forecast in detail, 7 day forecast and a summary screen. And it seems its perfectly times with everything because as soon as it ends it goes right to where it needs to... not a few seconds of satellite feed... i am hoping i get the hourly tho!
Does anyone have anything else that I didn't mention?
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My thoughts on the changes it's definitely fast paced i love the addition of the cities next to the radar map plus the jokes near the time clock absolutely funny although i will miss the narrations that to me was the staple of TWC for many years love the colors on the radar weather bar graph perfect & it looks like the vocals have been pushed to the end segments after each story or forecast overall a solid A for me good job WC crew.
I seen on the TWC facebook page someone posted that they didn't like the new locals because of no vocals. TWC replied back and said "Vocals will be back! They are working on them to make them more informative and to read more weather to the viewer."
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I'm pretty impressed by the new graphics. Very clean and modern.
Verizon FiOS on Long Island is not letterboxing the SD feed. I was hoping they would.
I'm not a huge fan of the Local on the 8s music... It's too bland and repetitive and easy to get tired of if you watch for a half hour or so. And I don't like the "welcome" text at the beginning... Here's a sample:
New York City, you did something to your hair, right?
New York City, we're from the future. (Not really, but we can predict it.)
New York City, now you can break the ice.
New York City, by the way, how'd that meeting go?
New York City, forget pork bellies, we've got weather futures.
New York City, we got you.
New York City, that's a great color on you.
New York City, we're going to make you an offer you can't refuse.
On the bottom of the screen, I keep getting forecasts for New York City and Hartsdale (Westchester County). I'm on Long Island. I think I used to get the NYC and Islip forecasts, which made more sense.
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I used to live in Cross City, FL and our cable head end had an XL. I'm curious to know what people with the XL are seeing? Do you guys see the new look of the locals or the old XL look?
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I live near 3 Major cities in SC.. Which one do you think I will get the "severe weather coverage" on? Charelston, Savanah or Tampa, FL o.0
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I'm pretty impressed by the new graphics. Very clean and modern.
Verizon FiOS on Long Island is not letterboxing the SD feed. I was hoping they would.
I'm not a huge fan of the Local on the 8s music... It's too bland and repetitive and easy to get tired of if you watch for a half hour or so. And I don't like the "welcome" text at the beginning... Here's a sample:
New York City, you did something to your hair, right?
New York City, we're from the future. (Not really, but we can predict it.)
New York City, now you can break the ice.
New York City, by the way, how'd that meeting go?
New York City, forget pork bellies, we've got weather futures.
New York City, we got you.
New York City, that's a great color on you.
New York City, we're going to make you an offer you can't refuse.
On the bottom of the screen, I keep getting forecasts for New York City and Hartsdale (Westchester County). I'm on Long Island. I think I used to get the NYC and Islip forecasts, which made more sense.
Can't make everyone happy. There is always something someone will not like...LOL :bleh:
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I used to live in Cross City, FL and our cable head end at an XL. I'm curious to know what people with the XL are seeing? Do you guys see the new look of the locals or the old XL look?
Anybody that didn't have the IS is still seeing their legacy STAR.
Here's a video for example
TWC "Weather All The Time" Debut + the Weatherstar XL lives on! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys7LX8U5R58#)
EDIT: I wanted to see if the afternoon edition of WCL is the same as the early morning edition (and it is). They had some major hiccups during the teaser and the opener completely froze.
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I really like how there's local info on the HD feed now. We didn't have the IS2 before. I like how much more weather info is shown now. They added a lot more cities to the LDL; in the Chicago area, they added Downers Grove, Elmhurst, Melrose Park, and Cicero from what I've seen so far. The airport delays section lists delays for ORD (O'Hare), and presumably MDW (Midway), but what surprised me is that it also tracks MKE: General Mitchell Airport in Milwaukee.
Overall, I'm really impressed with this update. I love the studio, and I really like that the whole look is coordinated. And weather during commercials is a big plus. :)
Just some quirks and minor issues: just before to the LF at 10:58 ET, the image (a city's skyline) was rotated 90° and was scrunched up in the right edge of the window surrounded by the LDL/sidebar, leaving most of the window just a a blank black space. Also, the background makes some of the small white text kinda hard to read on the 7-day.
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Why are some people saying its letterboxed? The DISH SD channel is not letterboxed shouldn't all SD feeds be the same way?
The SD feed is letterboxed video. They simply took the 16:9 video and moved it to the top of the SD screen and the empty space at the bottom has the LDL.
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I really like how there's local info on the HD feed now. We didn't have the IS2 before.
You have the IS2 now if you have local info on the HD feed :P
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Well it didn't take long for the playlists to become history but I suppose anything is better than vocals :(
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I've said this before, and I'll say it once more. Simplicity is great. So far, I'm impressed.
It seems like many of you don't like the Local on the 8s. I love it! Like I said, it's simple. Hour-by-hour is nice. I like the fact that there isn't a voice over, and I really like the music (although I'm glad to see that there will be some variation in the music, eventually). I like the little joke at the beginning (but then again, I'm a cheeseball).
A couple things that will have to grow on me: The white maps. Not a fan, especially since the city backplates are also white. I like the topo maps better.
Also, the music playing during the OCM forecasts. Too distracting. I get it, trying to be like ESPN and such, but I just don't see the need for it.
Oh, and the new studio is nice. Again, nothing too busy, which I like.
I just saw the 7 day planner...the maps/text are too small.
Overall I am impressed. The graphics are fancy, and I like Weather Center Live's music. The ticker at the bottom is nice!
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Also, the music playing during the OCM forecasts. Too distracting. I get it, trying to be like ESPN and such, but I just don't see the need for it.
Glad someone else agrees on the music during the forecasts. It's very annoying and should not be used.
Adding an agreement that the sayings at the start of the local forecast are not needed.
I want weather not lame stereo typical jokes based on my location.
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HAHAHA Funny saying from the start of the LOT8's in Tallahassee, FL. It said "Tallahassee, You being a weather geek is kind of a big deal." LMAO :rofl2:
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Well it didn't take long for the playlists to become history but I suppose anything is better than vocals :(
Martin said that production music is temporary. Who knows what kind of music they'll be playing when they change it.
I really like how there's local info on the HD feed now. We didn't have the IS2 before.
You have the IS2 now if you have local info on the HD feed :P
I'm still stuck with the national feed on the HD feed. <_< Which really sucks because I hate watching the SD feed for picture quality reasons, but I don't have a choice but to tune into it from time to time if I do need to see a LF.
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Some other hello text I've seen:
Hey Chicago, don't you just love the anticipation?
You've got plans. We've got forecasts.
So does TWC finally have a slogan again? It seems to be "It's Amazing Out There."
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I used to live in Cross City, FL and our cable head end at an XL. I'm curious to know what people with the XL are seeing? Do you guys see the new look of the locals or the old XL look?
Anybody that didn't have the IS is still seeing their legacy STAR.
Here's a video for example
TWC "Weather All The Time" Debut + the Weatherstar XL lives on! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys7LX8U5R58#[/url])
Right, I was sort of disappointed when I was still seeing the XL this morning, when I was told on Oct 15 by Mediacom's area director that they had already submitted the order for new units. Maybe they just haven't got everything set up yet, so I will be patient.
The XL in my area has had some issues with losing the feed and causing it to loop continuously this morning, so who knows.
Wish I knew someone in my area that had Consolidated Communications, since it uses a IS..
http://www.youtube.com/v/EcnWRXAIK3U
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The music playing in the background just confused Mike Seidel during his live report.
I like the color table they use for the temperature maps. Also, I don't see the point of showing a map while standing next to a monitor. You can't see the city names, and can barely make out the temperatures because the text is so small.
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Astoria, Oregon:
TWC Weather All the Time Local on the 8's- Astoria, OR- Nov. 12, 2013- 1:38AM PST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn8w_Ab86U4#)
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I'm still seeing the national feed on my HD channel, as my cable headend still does not have an IS2 unit installed yet. :no:
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For those curious, here's the satellite feed. Oddly enough, the DirecTV LF started to cue in again later on in the morning. :blink:
Relaunch Debut
TWC Weather Channel Weather All the Time Debut (w/ Satellite LOT8s) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nxC5Azby6M#)
LOT8s
Weather Channel New Satellite Local Forecast 11/12/13 4:18 AM - " Weather All The Time" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX6iPJeW76c#)
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The music really doesn't work during a forecast - it's just not long enough. Felt like it looped way too much during the 7-Day Forecast that I just watched.
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I know I'm being really nitpicky here, but the temperature trend line on the IS daypart forecast is really jaggy and not antialiased. It bothers me.
(http://i.imgur.com/OR85sI6.jpg)
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I don't think we should expect a perfect launch. There is sure to be plenty of kinks to work out (i.e. jaggy temperature line). Overall, it hasn't been a bad transition.
What's everyone's take on the new weather icons? I forgot to mention those. Yes, they're simple, but I'd like them to be a tad more realistic. But, that's just me.
And back to Local on the 8s. SAT and SUN are not outlined in black. Instead of not having them highlighted, perhaps they'd be able to have them a lighter shade of black or something. It just looks too out of place, in my opinion.
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I don't think we should expect a perfect launch. There is sure to be plenty of kinks to work out (i.e. jaggy temperature line). Overall, it hasn't been a bad transition.
What's everyone's take on the new weather icons? I forgot to mention those. Yes, they're simple, but I'd like them to be a tad more realistic. But, that's just me.
And back to Local on the 8s. SAT and SUN are not outlined in black. Instead of not having them highlighted, perhaps they'd be able to have them a lighter shade of black or something. It just looks too out of place, in my opinion.
I think they are great for the purpose they serve and the way they fit in the the rest of the graphics. However my all time favorite icons used were barely ever used... they were the ones that were used I think for a couple weeks on "Abrams and Bettes" years ago. They were really realistic and simple too. I wish I could find video of them but they were only used for such a small time I can't find them.
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For me the studio is to darkly lit and does not have a warm and inviting feel.
They need more light for the desk area and the green screen area is to dark for the OCMs.
Hopefully at least the green screen lighting is fixed for 5pm.
And I have to say it once again,
THE MUSIC DURING THE FORECAST SEGMENTS HAS TO OR I'LL GET MY WEATHER ELSEWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TWC is responding to complaints and questions on their FB page.
Hopefully enough people complain about the music during the forecast segments and they stop it tonight or Wednesday.
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I'm really liking the hello text. Some more:
Free refills for every forecast.
Food. Sleep. Weather.
Wait for it… Wait for it…
Every stratocumulus has a silver lining.
Around here, this is great first date material.
Keep your friends close and your weather closer.
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I have family in the plains.. and it's going to be wierd.. so are they not going to show tornado coverage in SC if there are tornadoes in OK??
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Sorry to keep complaining, Vivian Brown was just on and the background music was so loud you could barely make out her forecast.
Okay, this is maybe the 5th or 6th time you've mentioned this. We get it. Whining about it more won't change anything. Let's wait and see what happens.
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:clap:
Let's just see what happens :unsure:
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I'm probably in the minority, but I didn't/don't mind the background music during the live programming at all. As long as it's kept at a soft volume level.
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I'm probably in the minority, but I didn't/don't mind the background music during the live programming at all. As long as it's kept at a soft volume level.
A.G.R.E.E! :) :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
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OK, I know this reply is going to get buried in about 20 others, but let me give some of my observations as I was able to sit down for awhile and watch.
First, I noticed that the LOT8s for the SD and HD feed are actually slightly different! :o For example, the "IS2" did not give an hourly forecast whereas the SD one did. I guess this would make sense if they are still running on two different platforms (IS and IS2). Also, I know someone said they weren't seeing a Weather Bulletin, but I am for the Hard Freeze Warning which is in effect. I am not, however, seeing a warning crawl, but I thought those were only for tornadoes, severe thunderstorms, and flash floods?
Second, as I said earlier, Jim's narration is still on the IS2. The IS, however, has no narration. I know this was mentioned as a bug to be fixed in the future; I'm assuming the IS in SD will probably have Jim's voice as well.
Third, also as I said earlier, COX is not letterboxing the SD feed. Thus, there is not that right sidebar on the SD feed - just the lower bar. I wish they would just go ahead and letterbox it.
Fourth, I guess TWC doesn't think OKC has a good sense of humor, because all I have seen on the welcome screen is "Hello Oklahoma City, This is Your Weather."
Fifth, as a major disclaimer, depending on your cable provider, they may choose to show a local commercial for your area only, thus disrupting WAAT. For example, during the commercial break, an Oklahoma-specific AARP commercial showed. Obviously, there is no way around this, as this is the cable provider's doing, but just thought I would let some of you know in case WAAT disappears for a commercial or two.
Overall, I think they have done a good job. I just feel like the LOT8s goes WAY to fast. Still one-minute locals I guess... :(
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Is the TWC logo going to stay black on the LOT8's? Seems odd it's not TWC blue.
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OK, I know this reply is going to get buried in about 20 others, but let me give some of my observations as I was able to sit down for awhile and watch.
First, I noticed that the LOT8s for the SD and HD feed are actually slightly different! :o For example, the "IS2" did not give an hourly forecast whereas the SD one did. I guess this would make sense if they are still running on two different platforms (IS and IS2). Also, I know someone said they weren't seeing a Weather Bulletin, but I am for the Hard Freeze Warning which is in effect. I am not, however, seeing a warning crawl, but I thought those were only for tornadoes, severe thunderstorms, and flash floods?
Second, as I said earlier, Jim's narration is still on the IS2. The IS, however, has no narration. I know this was mentioned as a bug to be fixed in the future; I'm assuming the IS in SD will probably have Jim's voice as well.
Third, also as I said earlier, COX is not letterboxing the SD feed. Thus, there is not that right sidebar on the SD feed - just the lower bar. I wish they would just go ahead and letterbox it.
Fourth, I guess TWC doesn't think OKC has a good sense of humor, because all I have seen on the welcome screen is "Hello Oklahoma City, This is Your Weather."
Fifth, as a major disclaimer, depending on your cable provider, they may choose to show a local commercial for your area only, thus disrupting WAAT. For example, during the commercial break, an Oklahoma-specific AARP commercial showed. Obviously, there is no way around this, as this is the cable provider's doing, but just thought I would let some of you know in case WAAT disappears for a commercial or two.
Overall, I think they have done a good job. I just feel like the LOT8s goes WAY to fast. Still one-minute locals I guess... :(
Yea the should letterbox the SD feed. Yea, the local commercial's interupting WATT can be annoying.. but I am sure they will find a way around this eventually.. What I've noticed.. my LF is having some serious audio issues.. Like near the end the song completely stops and then comes back in short bursts :/ :blushing:
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Is the TWC logo going to stay black on the LOT8's? Seems odd it's not TWC blue.
:no: :footinmouth:That would look Terrible :no: :footinmouth:
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OK, I know this reply is going to get buried in about 20 others, but let me give some of my observations as I was able to sit down for awhile and watch.
First, I noticed that the LOT8s for the SD and HD feed are actually slightly different! :o For example, the "IS2" did not give an hourly forecast whereas the SD one did. I guess this would make sense if they are still running on two different platforms (IS and IS2). Also, I know someone said they weren't seeing a Weather Bulletin, but I am for the Hard Freeze Warning which is in effect. I am not, however, seeing a warning crawl, but I thought those were only for tornadoes, severe thunderstorms, and flash floods?
Second, as I said earlier, Jim's narration is still on the IS2. The IS, however, has no narration. I know this was mentioned as a bug to be fixed in the future; I'm assuming the IS in SD will probably have Jim's voice as well.
Third, also as I said earlier, COX is not letterboxing the SD feed. Thus, there is not that right sidebar on the SD feed - just the lower bar. I wish they would just go ahead and letterbox it.
Fourth, I guess TWC doesn't think OKC has a good sense of humor, because all I have seen on the welcome screen is "Hello Oklahoma City, This is Your Weather."
Fifth, as a major disclaimer, depending on your cable provider, they may choose to show a local commercial for your area only, thus disrupting WAAT. For example, during the commercial break, an Oklahoma-specific AARP commercial showed. Obviously, there is no way around this, as this is the cable provider's doing, but just thought I would let some of you know in case WAAT disappears for a commercial or two.
Overall, I think they have done a good job. I just feel like the LOT8s goes WAY to fast. Still one-minute locals I guess... :(
I haven't watched the SD LF, but my HD LF definitely has the hourly forecast. Xfinity in Chicago isn't letterboxing TWC either.
I'm probably in the minority, but I didn't/don't mind the background music during the live programming at all. As long as it's kept at a soft volume level.
I really don't mind it either. It doesn't seem like anything out of the ordinary, unless, of course, it gets too loud.
EDIT: To emphasize Andy's point, the SD and HD LDLs here have an entirely different set of secondary cities, which means I take back my earlier statement of cities being added.
SD: same as before relaunch (Chicago, North Aurora, Warrenville)
HD: Chicago, Cicero, Downers Grove, Joliet, Hinsdale, Elmhurst, Melrose Park
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OK, my "observing" skills weren't so good before, but I am noticing some differences between the LOT8s for SD and HD (thus, the IS and IS2). I just recorded the IS2 from :48 and IS from :08, but it was with my phone, so the quality is not very good. Granted, these are at different points after the hour, so unless flavors have returned, there are some noticeable differences. Yes, this is being really picky, but I find these differences interesting.
On the IS (SD), there are those jokes. On the IS2 (HD), there are not.
On the IS, there is NO weather bulletin. On the IS2, there is.
On the IS, there is an ad crawl. On the IS2, there is not.
On the IS, there are no narrations. On the IS2, there are.
Different radar maps:
On the IS, the radar was the regional then the local (even with no precip). On the IS2, there was only one radar that was zoomed way out to show the entire state of Oklahoma.
Different "Today" forecast:
On the IS, the Today with text was shown, then the hourly forecast. On the IS2, there was no hourly forecast. The Today with text, then Tonight with text was shown.
I don't know if these differences were intentional, or if they didn't expect anyone to scrutinize the differences this closely. :P
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Something odd: on the HD feed, the national LDL is on, but the sidebar is still showing local info.
Does anyone think there is some potential for the top part of the sidebar, where it says "You're Watching The Weather Channel"? Maybe they could some SportsCenter-esque thing where that part shows upcoming stories being discussed, or it could be used for additional weather info.
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I think it's safe to say that Vocal Music is done with. :dance: because on http://feedback.weather.com/knowledgebase/articles/280702-is-there-new-music-during-local-on-the-8s- (http://feedback.weather.com/knowledgebase/articles/280702-is-there-new-music-during-local-on-the-8s-) it says
Your Local on the 8s experience will now sound different. Every segment will begin with the The Weather Channel LOT8s new iconic sound. Every intro will be followed by one of two custom Local on the 8s new iconic music that will help enhance the experience with an upbeat energetic sound.
Still I'm going to miss the playlists. :(
EDIT: Full Screen Local on the 8s will return twice an hour during long form!
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Something odd: on the HD feed, the national LDL is on, but the sidebar is still showing local info.
Does anyone think there is some potential for the top part of the sidebar, where it says "You're Watching The Weather Channel"? Maybe they could some SportsCenter-esque thing where that part shows upcoming stories being discussed, or it could be used for additional weather info.
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They were doing that earlier in that space.
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Does anyone think there is some potential for the top part of the sidebar, where it says "You're Watching The Weather Channel"? Maybe they could some SportsCenter-esque thing where that part shows upcoming stories being discussed, or it could be used for additional weather info.
That was supposed to be for the "rundown" on what's coming up next (like SportsCenter), but for some reason, it's not working anymore. :blink:
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The only thing I find odd is, while they are now formatting video and graphics for 16:9 the HD National LOT8's is formatted for 4:3 with the unused space on the right.
Is the LOT8's on the IS2 using the full space?
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Can someone confirm this with me? I just read a user's post on TWC's Facebook page:
I love the addition of the song and artist on the screen when going to local 8's. finally we don't have to rush to our device to Shazam it! The rest on the other hand..undecided.
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Can someone confirm this with me? I just read a user's post on TWC's Facebook page:
I love the addition of the song and artist on the screen when going to local 8's. finally we don't have to rush to our device to Shazam it! The rest on the other hand..undecided.
Right before they go to a commercial break, they are showing a live cam shot of a skyline (is it Atlanta?) and playing a song to accompany it. The name of the song and artist are on the bottom of the screen.
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Another funny "Hello Message" said "Tallahassee, Nobody puts Cantore in a corner" :thrilled:
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Can someone confirm this with me? I just read a user's post on TWC's Facebook page:
I love the addition of the song and artist on the screen when going to local 8's. finally we don't have to rush to our device to Shazam it! The rest on the other hand..undecided.
Right before they go to a commercial break, they are showing a live cam shot of a skyline (is it Atlanta?) and playing a song to accompany it. The name of the song and artist are on the bottom of the screen.
The city varies. I saw Phoenix earlier this morning.
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On the national feed there is no weather information on screen during long form, just a white slightly transparent TWC logo on the bottom left and a 100% solid white show name on the bottom right.
They really don't need the show name on screen.
Going to break they are boxing in the commercials but there is no weather info just the white logo.
I'm guessing this is a bug and eventually they are going to have national forecasts on screen.
On the SD IS feed there is an LDL at the bottom of the screen giving current conditions for the local area.
The old LDL area animated show promo just ran going to break.
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:clap: Woohoo! Finally got the hourly forecast on the LOT8's. They eliminated the close up local radar and just used the regional radar. So I guess whenever the precip moves out of the immediate area, they will switch to just regional radar and add the hourly...vs. when precip is in the immediate area and having both regional and local radar and no hourly. Wish they could find a way to have hourly in there no matter what tho!
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Does anyone have a metro forecast map?
Also I noticed some cities on my radar are out of place or are missing their place marker (just a city name, no dot on the map).
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Also during long form the full LDL (SD) is on, not the compact and transparent LDL yet demoed in the video.
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IMO, I thought that the new graphics looked neat on screen. :yes: It's also nice to see local weather even during commercial breaks and long-form programming. One thing I've noticed, however, is that the local weather ID has disappeared. :itsok: The ID number is very helpful if one experienced a problem with their LOT8s and needed to report it to the STAR team. Other than that, the rest of the graphics are amazing.
Also, does Weatherscan have the new weather icons, or does it still use the 2010-2013 icons? :dunno:
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During long form, SD feed on satellite is a blank LDL. Hopefully this is just a bug, and hopefully we'll actually get Weather All The Time.
What are people with an IS2 seeing since there's no squeezeback happening on the HD feed? Is Weather All The Time just running over the bottom of the screen and blocking part of the image?
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Can someone confirm this with me? I just read a user's post on TWC's Facebook page:
I love the addition of the song and artist on the screen when going to local 8's. finally we don't have to rush to our device to Shazam it! The rest on the other hand..undecided.
Right before they go to a commercial break, they are showing a live cam shot of a skyline (is it Atlanta?) and playing a song to accompany it. The name of the song and artist are on the bottom of the screen.
The city varies. I saw Phoenix earlier this morning.
Really? I'm not seeing the song ID screen. Maybe it's because I have satellite?
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Does anyone have a metro forecast map?
Also I noticed some cities on my radar are out of place or are missing their place marker (just a city name, no dot on the map).
No, I haven't seen one yet. The screens move at a swift pace as it is, I wouldn't think there would be time for metro maps in 1 minute unless it's supposed to alternate with another forecast screen.
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Overall, I like the new look. It's definitely better suited for HD however. On the SD version, things are a bit fuzzy and hard to read. The radar is OK but again, the text is somewhat cluttered. The HD version is more crisp and the text is legible. There's also more info with the HD version with the sidebar. I had additional cities as well. I noticed record high and low info and I'm wondering what source they're using since my location doesn't have NWS record info. Maybe Weather Underground? I also have an airport on Long Island - ISP. Seems out of place.
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Long-form observations:
No LOT8s at :30 past the hour. :club: I thought someone said there were going to be locals on the half-hour during long-form. There was certainly enough commercial space to have one.
On the HD feed, there is a transparent LDL running ALL the time. The transparent TWC logo is in the bottom left-hand corner, and the show name is in the bottom right-hand corner. When going to commercial, the blue box suddenly appears as a border around the commercial, but the compact LDL is still being used.
On the SD feed, the LDL is not transparent. It has the blue box behind it, and if you notice at the top of the screen there is a little bit of blue to shrink the picture even more. I don't think this looks good. :no: Why can't they just have the transparent LDL on the both SD and HD feeds?
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Really? I'm not seeing the song ID screen. Maybe it's because I have satellite?
It's just a normal lower-third graphic during the live broadcast when they go to a break. It's not identifying anything with the Local on the 8s or anything... I only noticed it twice (and once it was still on the screen when they came back from the break but they weren't playing that song for the rejoin!).
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The LDL just flashed up on DISH' s SD Channel for a second. Don't know about HD as SD is delayed by a second or two so maybe Their working on it?
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No LOT8s at :30 past the hour. :club: I thought someone said there were going to be locals on the half-hour during long-form. There was certainly enough commercial space to have one.
I did see a LOT8s at 11:18AM PT :yes: so it looks like they do air the LFs every half-hour during long-form, but it's at :18/:48 past the hour as before with the squeezebacks.
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Long-form observations:
Why can't they just have the transparent LDL on the both SD and HD feeds?
I guess TWC wants the screen layout to stay the same no matter what is on the SD feed.
The HD video is letterboxed and moved to the top of the 4:3 frame leaving the bottom space for the LDL.
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The graphics look like they were designed by the same team that designed Windows 8. Very boxy and boring. :hmm:
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No LOT8s at :30 past the hour. :club: I thought someone said there were going to be locals on the half-hour during long-form. There was certainly enough commercial space to have one.
I did see a LOT8s at 11:18AM PT :yes: so it looks like they do air the LFs every half-hour during long-form, but it's at :18/:48 past the hour as before with the squeezebacks.
Would be nice if they throw in a Live Weather Update also.
Still no LDL yet. Should we let TWC know about DISH and maybe DTV?
Can anyone post a pic of the smaller LDL?
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Also no audio on the LO8 at 1:47PM CT and went to the Emer. feed at 2:20PM CT
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New graphics (show graphics, LOT8s, icons, etc) designed by Trollbäck + Company
http://www.trollback.com/the-weather-channel/ (http://www.trollback.com/the-weather-channel/)
New music by Man Made Music
http://www.manmademusic.com/ (http://www.manmademusic.com/)
Set designed by Clickspring Design
http://clickspringdesign.com/ (http://clickspringdesign.com/)
Set lightning by The Lighting Design Group (LDG)
http://www.ldg.com/ (http://www.ldg.com/)
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Also no audio on the LO8 at 1:47PM CT and went to the Emer. feed at 2:20PM CT
Did you happen to hear the audio on the EF. cause I was on the SD intellistar feed. The background music toward the end sounded a little jazzy.
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I must say that I am now a fan of TWC because of the new graphics! I've been checking often every hour to see what's up. Everything is so concise and readable now. The studio is to die for...it's so picture perfect in HD.
Good going, TWC. You just brought back an old fan. :))
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Anyone know how many different LOT8s backgrounds there are? They're all really nice.
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Oh God.. national ldl over local ldl AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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The LDL & Sidebar has been glitchy more than anything else since the launch today. On the HD feed they just turned it off.
I notice these errors seem to happen most during transitions from either commercials to live programming or the LF to live programming etc. They're having a hard time scaling up/down the video feed so it doesn't overlap the LDL/Sidebar.
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To me it's a bit dark and the studio could be a little brighter. Yes I know it's day one. Just an observation.
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I actually like the full screen video. The wing on the right is not doing much for me and the forecast maps are better full screen.
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One other thing I noticed is at the green screen the OMC's have a purple shadow on them. which used to happen before the studio remodel.
I wonder where it's coming from?
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The new graphics look fantastic in HD, however I've mostly been watching in SD to see the changes to the IS. I would do the same for the IS2, but I haven't seen it in about a month and a half.
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TWC's response on FB about the narration on the LOT8s,
The Weather Channel "Daniel - We're revamping the voice for local on the 8s to bring you more local information. It will be back soon."
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The clock has turned black and green at the beginning of the local forecast for whatever reason...I would say that it was for nighttime but it wasn't like that early this morning.
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I noticed that the music sounded rather quiet on the SD LF, and the basemap is still green. I heard buzzing on it too. Also, the background of the SD and HD LFs don't seem to match all the time. (I was watching them at the same time.) Speaking of which, just how many are there?
Does anyone notice that the the top part of the sidebar looks different now? It still has the same text, but the "you're watching" text is much smaller, and the rest of the text is arranged in the same way as the TWC logo. There is also a big sun icon peeking out from the right edge.
I really like these icons. They match the new look perfectly, and the animations are nice too.
The clock has turned black and green at the beginning of the local forecast for whatever reason...I would say that it was for nighttime but it wasn't like that early this morning.
The clock has that same color scheme on the sidebar when showing the sunset time.
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So what exactly is the system generating the LF? Is it a brand new STAR? A new type of Intellistar?
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So what exactly is the system generating the LF? Is it a brand new STAR? A new type of Intellistar?
What you're looking at is IntelliStar v3. The same computer is generating this that generated the IntelliStar graphics from 2004 and up. It was just a graphical update.
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The clock has turned black and green at the beginning of the local forecast for whatever reason...I would say that it was for nighttime but it wasn't like that early this morning.
West coast viewers saw the dark clock this morning seeing that it was 1am when the update was rolled out.
So what exactly is the system generating the LF? Is it a brand new STAR? A new type of Intellistar?
What you're looking at is IntelliStar v3. The same computer is generating this that generated the IntelliStar graphics from 2004 and up. It was just a graphical update.
For now, I'd say that "IS v3" should remain a fan name :P but this is beyond a graphical update, this is a whole new style.
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On the bottom of the screen, I keep getting forecasts for New York City and Hartsdale (Westchester County). I'm on Long Island. I think I used to get the NYC and Islip forecasts, which made more sense.
Probably just FiOS. I have Cablevision in Suffolk County and it's Islip with forecasts for Islip, Port Jefferson, Amityville and East Hampton.
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This might have already been asked or stated, but what are the XL/4000/Jr. viewers seeing during the LOT8's? Was the graphics update expanded to the legacy STAR's as well, or are they just receiving the national/satellite feed?
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Sorry to keep complaining, Vivian Brown was just on and the background music was so loud you could barely make out her forecast.
It's only the 1st day there are bound to be errors, and sorry the changes aren't to your liking :(
Does anyone have a metro forecast map?
Also I noticed some cities on my radar are out of place or are missing their place marker (just a city name, no dot on the map).
No Metro Map here in New Bedford, all i see is CC>Regional Radar>Metro Radar>Hourly>7day>Summary
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No Kim Cunningham on WCL at 7pm. TWC is going cheap and using only one OCM Chris Warren. :censored:
So Kim Cunningham and Daneille Banks it appears are no longer doing live shows and just live updates if they still do them during long form.
Not sure when Keith Carson is going to be on either.
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New graphics (show graphics, LOT8s, icons, etc) designed by Trollbäck + Company
[url]http://www.trollback.com/the-weather-channel/[/url] ([url]http://www.trollback.com/the-weather-channel/[/url])
"This marks the network’s first rebrand in 31 years." Really!? Maybe I'm just fuzzy on what rebrand means, but I'm pretty sure they've re-branded several times since their debut.
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What's with the set design? Looks like something out of a sci-fi movie. That desk looks like a contact lense. :huh:
I must say that I am now a fan of TWC because of the new graphics! I've been checking often every hour to see what's up. Everything is so concise and readable now. The studio is to die for...it's so picture perfect in HD.
Good going, TWC. You just brought back an old fan. :))
Wow. I don't think I've ever heard a former fan say that. I glad you like the changes. The more I see, the less I am impressed. I'm starting to think I should go into graphic design. Companies like Trollback make it look really easy. Blue box, gray box, black box, this font. Boom, done! Now where's my $10 million? :rolleyes:
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This might have already been asked or stated, but what are the XL/4000/Jr. viewers seeing during the LOT8's? Was the graphics update expanded to the legacy STAR's as well, or are they just receiving the national/satellite feed?
Those are still alive and well :)
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Can someone confirm this with me? I just read a user's post on TWC's Facebook page:
I love the addition of the song and artist on the screen when going to local 8's. finally we don't have to rush to our device to Shazam it! The rest on the other hand..undecided.
Right before they go to a commercial break, they are showing a live cam shot of a skyline (is it Atlanta?) and playing a song to accompany it. The name of the song and artist are on the bottom of the screen.
The city varies. I saw Phoenix earlier this morning.
Really? I'm not seeing the song ID screen. Maybe it's because I have satellite?
I've seen it several times, and I have satellite.
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Overall, I like the new look. It's definitely better suited for HD however. On the SD version, things are a bit fuzzy and hard to read. The radar is OK but again, the text is somewhat cluttered. The HD version is more crisp and the text is legible. There's also more info with the HD version with the sidebar. I had additional cities as well. I noticed record high and low info and I'm wondering what source they're using since my location doesn't have NWS record info. Maybe Weather Underground? I also have an airport on Long Island - ISP. Seems out of place.
The nearest NWS location that keeps records. I live in Franklinton, La., but Slidell is the nearest location that keeps records.
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Okay, is it just me, or are the jokes getting annoying now? They were funny at first, now it just seems unfitting.
I would much rather see something like this in that space:
Memphis, cold weather on the way
Memphis, severe weather tonight
Memphis, here's your morning weather
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This might have already been asked or stated, but what are the XL/4000/Jr. viewers seeing during the LOT8's? Was the graphics update expanded to the legacy STAR's as well, or are they just receiving the national/satellite feed?
Viewers with an XL/4000/Jr. see the national LDL, but unchanged full-screen local forecast segments. In other words, viewers with legacy Stars see their old-fashioned local forecasts which have nothing in common with The Weather Channel's new look.
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Not sure when Keith Carson is going to be on either.
Keith posted on Facebook he is returning Thursday evening :yes:
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Mark Elliot just showed up doing a live segment in studio and now Kyla and Mark are on though only Chris is doing the forecast segment.
I'm guessing there are no plans to update WeatherScan to the new grapgics?
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Okay, is it just me, or are the jokes getting annoying now? They were funny at first, now it just seems unfitting.
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Memphis, here's your morning weather
That's what is seen on the IS2 apparently in place of the jokes
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This might have already been asked or stated, but what are the XL/4000/Jr. viewers seeing during the LOT8's? Was the graphics update expanded to the legacy STAR's as well, or are they just receiving the national/satellite feed?
Those are still alive and well :)
Not for much longer.
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Okay, is it just me, or are the jokes getting annoying now? They were funny at first, now it just seems unfitting.
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Memphis, here's your morning weather
That's what is seen on the IS2 apparently in place of the jokes
As I said earlier, the jokes are only on the SD IS. The IS2 just says "Hello [city name], this is your weather."
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This might have already been asked or stated, but what are the XL/4000/Jr. viewers seeing during the LOT8's? Was the graphics update expanded to the legacy STAR's as well, or are they just receiving the national/satellite feed?
Those are still alive and well :)
Not for much longer.
I was surprised they didn't take the feed off of those STARs today. I suspect they will within the next coming weeks, but it's good for those with legacies to still enjoy whatever time they have left remaining with those STARs.
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Okay, is it just me, or are the jokes getting annoying now? They were funny at first, now it just seems unfitting.
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Memphis, here's your morning weather
That's what is seen on the IS2 apparently in place of the jokes
As I said earlier, the jokes are only on the SD IS. The IS2 just says "Hello [city name], this is your weather."
I've actually been seeing the jokes on the IS2 here. I haven't checked on the SD IS, though, since I haven't tuned in right at the beginning of the LF.
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Still no LDL as of 7:20PM CT during longform! Could someone let TWC know so they can look in to this? This isn't Weather All The Time. Why should DISH and DTV?? be left out?
If they're still having problems I apologize, but how do we know?
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Sorry if I'm a little late to the "comments" party, but overall I think it looks good! The graphics and animations look much more modern than they were before. I do have a couple of comments however that may be some of the experts on here could help out with...
- During the LOT8s, is there a plan to change up the background images? I'm in Albany, NY and cactus's and dessert scenes don't seem to fit.. :lol:
- In the previews, during live shows, I saw that the time and temperature rotated (above TWC logo), similar to the previous HD LDL. Would be nice to have that for the main city, as there are now several cities and towns in the rotation.
Thanks,
Chris
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Okay, is it just me, or are the jokes getting annoying now? They were funny at first, now it just seems unfitting.
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Memphis, here's your morning weather
That's what is seen on the IS2 apparently in place of the jokes
As I said earlier, the jokes are only on the SD IS. The IS2 just says "Hello [city name], this is your weather."
Actually, they are on both feeds
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Still no LDL as of 7:20PM CT during longform! Could someone let TWC know so they can look in to this? This isn't Weather All The Time. Why should DISH and DTV?? be left out?
If they're still having problems I apologize, but how do we know?
The blank LDL Is for the IS2. That's where the mini ldl shows weather all the time. Since they can't make them both run each other, one has to go.
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Okay, is it just me, or are the jokes getting annoying now? They were funny at first, now it just seems unfitting.
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Memphis, here's your morning weather
That's what is seen on the IS2 apparently in place of the jokes
As I said earlier, the jokes are only on the SD IS. The IS2 just says "Hello [city name], this is your weather."
The Daytona Beach IS2 has the jokes.
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Still no LDL as of 7:20PM CT during longform! Could someone let TWC know so they can look in to this? This isn't Weather All The Time. Why should DISH and DTV?? be left out?
If they're still having problems I apologize, but how do we know?
The blank LDL Is for the IS2. That's where the mini ldl shows weather all the time. Since they can't make them both run each other, one has to go.
So, are you saying TWC can't show anything on Satellite?
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Still no LDL as of 7:20PM CT during longform! Could someone let TWC know so they can look in to this? This isn't Weather All The Time. Why should DISH and DTV?? be left out?
If they're still having problems I apologize, but how do we know?
http://feedback.weather.com/knowledgebase/topics/5017-tv-local-on-the-8s-local-forecast (http://feedback.weather.com/knowledgebase/topics/5017-tv-local-on-the-8s-local-forecast)
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Okay, is it just me, or are the jokes getting annoying now? They were funny at first, now it just seems unfitting.
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Memphis, here's your morning weather
That's what is seen on the IS2 apparently in place of the jokes
As I said earlier, the jokes are only on the SD IS. The IS2 just says "Hello [city name], this is your weather."
The Daytona Beach IS2 has the jokes.
OK, sorry for the wrong information guys. :P I must have just been watching at the wrong times because I didn't see any on my IS2.
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So, are you saying TWC can't show anything on Satellite?
Dish and Direct TV can use their own Stars to overlay their Stars' output over the national LDL, as in the past. There's bound to some difficulty at first.
The whole system has had a few hiccups, but has otherwise been pretty successful for a flash-cut at 4:00 this morning, and with, apparently, rather little preparation time. (The worst blooper I saw was at 5:00 this afternoon when the squeezeback didn't happen and the LDL/sidebar just got switched off after a few minutes.)
Just give it a little time. Once things get ironed out, you might see some improvements.
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Still no LDL as of 7:20PM CT during longform! Could someone let TWC know so they can look in to this? This isn't Weather All The Time. Why should DISH and DTV?? be left out?
If they're still having problems I apologize, but how do we know?
The blank LDL Is for the IS2. That's where the mini ldl shows weather all the time. Since they can't make them both run each other, one has to go.
So, are you saying TWC can't show anything on Satellite?
It happened during weather center live, as they started weather center the ldl and sidebar were transparent thus making the national sidebar and ldl show up, then they realized they screwed up and turned off the graphics
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I wonder what weatherscan looks like. Anyone have weatherscan? If you do can you take a pic of it?
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The clock on LOT8s changes with the time of day. It's Black/Green for mid-evening to early morning and White/Red for mid-morning to early evening. I've noticed that today.
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I wonder what weatherscan looks like. Anyone have weatherscan? If you do can you take a pic of it?
Hasn't changed at all.
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:cry:
So, are you saying TWC can't show anything on Satellite?
Dish and Direct TV can use their own Stars to overlay their Stars' output over the national LDL, as in the past. There's bound to some difficulty at first.
The whole system has had a few hiccups, but has otherwise been pretty successful for a flash-cut at 4:00 this morning, and with, apparently, rather little preparation time. (The worst blooper I saw was at 5:00 this afternoon when the squeezeback didn't happen and the LDL/sidebar just got switched off after a few minutes.)
Just give it a little time. Once things get ironed out, you might see some improvements.
I cant see how It can't have hiccups!
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Forgot to mention they gave a local on the 8s at 8:50 CDT And it was silent, but I heard the chime and narrations. Weird.
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Wow. I don't think I've ever heard a former fan say that. I glad you like the changes. The more I see, the less I am impressed. I'm starting to think I should go into graphic design. Companies like Trollback make it look really easy. Blue box, gray box, black box, this font. Boom, done! Now where's my $10 million? :rolleyes:
You know I'm probably making more out of this than I should, but considering I'm currently a student in school for graphic design this statement really rubs me the wrong way. I respect that you dislike the design/graphics and find it unimpressive, it's your personal opinion. As hard as it may be to believe I'm about 99.9% sure TWC had a fair share of input in how they wanted their graphics to be presented so to make it seem like the group of graphic designers that worked on this for them just sat around on their butts and threw some crap together just for the money is a bit insulting.
I've been critical of some of the graphics TWC has chosen to use in the past. In retrospect, I don't care much for the design they chose to use during the first HD launch 5 years ago. I still think they missed the mark at not going with the other demo design that was floating around before that HD launch. However, I wouldn't cynically make it seem like money was the incentive for them not to make good graphics just because in my own opinion I didn't like the overall design. Not everything done in various professions has to be money motivated, it can be done because people naturally love to do that job and have a passion for it like I do now as student and hopefully soon as profession.
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So, are you saying TWC can't show anything on Satellite?
Dish and Direct TV can use their own Stars to overlay their Stars' output over the national LDL, as in the past. There's bound to some difficulty at first.
The whole system has had a few hiccups, but has otherwise been pretty successful for a flash-cut at 4:00 this morning, and with, apparently, rather little preparation time. (The worst blooper I saw was at 5:00 this afternoon when the squeezeback didn't happen and the LDL/sidebar just got switched off after a few minutes.)
Just give it a little time. Once things get ironed out, you might see some improvements.
Thanks, I was so pumped for this relaunch! One of the reasons was I was hoping it would make longform a little better to watch and when nothing changed i got nervous!
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I really like these new graphics! :yes:
The "old" IS was starting to get tiresome.
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Forgot to mention they gave a local on the 8s at 8:50 CDT And it was silent, but I heard the chime and narrations. Weird.
same thing happened this afternoon during longform.
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This might have already been asked or stated, but what are the XL/4000/Jr. viewers seeing during the LOT8's? Was the graphics update expanded to the legacy STAR's as well, or are they just receiving the national/satellite feed?
Those are still alive and well :)
Not for much longer.
Yeah, I had a feeling that was gonna be said.
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I really like these new graphics! :yes:
The "old" IS was starting to get tiresome.
I was getting tired of it, I mean, Come on! 5 years of the same thing! Unacceptable!
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If you're watching on satellite, do you just see the transparent twc logo next to a title bar that says local on the 8s?
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There's something I wanted to have clarified about the IS2, did the design remain the same as before or did it also get graphically overhauled like it's IS counterpart? :dunno:
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There's something I wanted to have clarified about the IS2, did the design remain the same as before or did it also get graphically overhauled like it's IS counterpart? :dunno:
Yes, it did and it has better animations than the IS (by animations I mean fluid motion of the local information pages)
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There's something I wanted to have clarified about the IS2, did the design remain the same as before or did it also get graphically overhauled like it's IS counterpart? :dunno:
If I understand your question correctly, the IS2 now looks like its IS counterpart, except for a couple of minor details I mentioned earlier. Here's (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg186547/#msg186547) my post.
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Sorry if posted...
Yes, the network schedule changed starting November 12, 2013. Our first objective is to ensure our fans get their weather, all the time, on our screen, even during commercial breaks and when watching our shows. We hope our new scheduling changes inspire our fans to explore, investigate, and appreciate the experience of weather in all of its many forms, like we do everyday.
The schedule changes on the weekdays include a morning destination with shows starting at 5:30 a.m. ET with Wake Up With Al and at 7 a.m. ET with Morning Rush, where our fans can get the top stories about weather and other important news happening in our world with a focus on getting you prepared for whatever the day may bring. Weather Center Live starts at 10 a.m. ET giving you all the weather stories around our globe and hosted by the most talented meteorologists today.
Starting at 8 p.m. ET and throughout the night, every night, we will provide our fans the most engaging stories of real people tackling the natural drama of lives lived in the elements. Shows in November and December at night include Prospectors at 9 p.m. ET and Freaks of Nature at 10 p.m. ET every Sunday.
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Overall, I like the concept of the graphics.
However, I have one complaint. In my opinion, the solid gray/white basemaps are too bland. I think it would be more appealling to use topographic basemaps. In addition, it's harder to see snowfall (color coded in either blue or white) depicted on those light-colored maps.
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There's something I wanted to have clarified about the IS2, did the design remain the same as before or did it also get graphically overhauled like it's IS counterpart? :dunno:
Yes, it did and it has better animations than the IS (by animations I mean fluid motion of the local information pages)
Thanks for the clarification.
There's something I wanted to have clarified about the IS2, did the design remain the same as before or did it also get graphically overhauled like it's IS counterpart? :dunno:
If I understand your question correctly, the IS2 now looks like its IS counterpart, except for a couple of minor details I mentioned earlier. Here's (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg186547/#msg186547) my post.
Yeah, that's what I meant. I was curious if the comparisons were similar or not since I never really saw a photo or video of what it might look like. That's cool, now I know what to look out for if we ever get the IS2 here. It's been almost 3 1/2 years since it's beta release, so I've calculated it should be 19 years from now once I'm 40 by the time I see it. :lol:
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The weather icons are still the same as before on Weatherscan according to this YT video I found from today:
Weatherscan 11/12/13: NJ's first snow of the season. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23-Kg53dMVs#ws)
Clip courtesy of Ike OrangeBox from YouTube.
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If it hasn't already been posted, here's the IS2 version:
New Local Forcast - November, 12 2013 - 8:28 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnzsSBM2zNM#ws)
Compared to the IS:
New Local Forcast - November, 12 2013 - 5:08 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpPud588CYo#)
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Zach, beat me to it! :P You have better quality than I do, but here is the IS2 from OKC I recorded this morning with my phone. Please excuse the audio.
The Weather Channel New IntelliSTAR 2 November 12, 2013 11:48 AM CST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZrawWParBY#ws)
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So, are you saying TWC can't show anything on Satellite?
Dish and Direct TV can use their own Stars to overlay their Stars' output over the national LDL, as in the past. There's bound to some difficulty at first.
The whole system has had a few hiccups, but has otherwise been pretty successful for a flash-cut at 4:00 this morning, and with, apparently, rather little preparation time. (The worst blooper I saw was at 5:00 this afternoon when the squeezeback didn't happen and the LDL/sidebar just got switched off after a few minutes.)
Just give it a little time. Once things get ironed out, you might see some improvements.
I wonder if Dish/Direct even still have their stars, since they pretty much quit being used when the national LDL was introduced, plus I'm not sure either provider ever had an IS2.
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So, are you saying TWC can't show anything on Satellite?
Dish and Direct TV can use their own Stars to overlay their Stars' output over the national LDL, as in the past. There's bound to some difficulty at first.
The whole system has had a few hiccups, but has otherwise been pretty successful for a flash-cut at 4:00 this morning, and with, apparently, rather little preparation time. (The worst blooper I saw was at 5:00 this afternoon when the squeezeback didn't happen and the LDL/sidebar just got switched off after a few minutes.)
Just give it a little time. Once things get ironed out, you might see some improvements.
I wonder if Dish/Direct even still have their stars, since they pretty much quit being used when the national LDL was introduced, plus I'm not sure either provider ever had an IS2.
DirecTV still has their IntelliStar. The internal clock is being cued in place when the LDLs cue for IntelliStars.
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I don't know if this is fixable, but the local IS LDL doesn't quite line up with the national LDL, at least in SD. This was a problem with the previous look too, the top of the national LDL always peeked out over the local LDL.
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As hard as it may be to believe I'm about 99.9% sure TWC had a fair share of input in how they wanted their graphics to be presented so to make it seem like the group of graphic designers that worked on this for them just sat around on their butts and threw some crap together just for the money is a bit insulting.
Why are you insulted? Are you planning on producing sub-par work when you get a job? My guess is no, so why be bothered by what I think?
Anyway, I was being sarcastic about the no time thing. Working in the marketing business myself, I have no doubt that TWC had lots of meetings about the new look. And I have no doubt that the company they hired spent a lot of time on the project. That's why I'm so unimpressed.
If you want to be a designer, that's awesome. I wish I was. I look at some of the things people have done and am amazed. I can see the passion in them. I see no passion in this look. I mean, all that time and money, and all you come up with are a bunch of colored boxes and an ugly font? I could have done that! Maybe I just don't "get it" because I'm a developer, but I think it's ridiculous when companies charge millions for ugly designs and/or websites that don't work.
One company I work with, for example, had another company "refresh" the design of two websites we created for them. When we got the design back and I applied it to the sites, I was amazed. I couldn't tell that they had done anything...until they told us. All they did was change the colors and fonts slightly. And I think they added a ribbon to the top of one of the sites. I don't know what they charged for their "services," but knowing the firm, I'm pretty sure it was a lot.
My point is this. If you have the balls to charge a client over a million dollars for something, what you deliver in the end better be f-ing amazing!!
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Well said!
As hard as it may be to believe I'm about 99.9% sure TWC had a fair share of input in how they wanted their graphics to be presented so to make it seem like the group of graphic designers that worked on this for them just sat around on their butts and threw some crap together just for the money is a bit insulting.
Why are you insulted? Are you planning on producing sub-par work when you get a job? My guess is no, so why be bothered by what I think?
Anyway, I was being sarcastic about the no time thing. Working in the marketing business myself, I have no doubt that TWC had lots of meetings about the new look. And I have no doubt that the company they hired spent a lot of time on the project. That's why I'm so unimpressed.
If you want to be a designer, that's awesome. I wish I was. I look at some of the things people have done and am amazed. I can see the passion in them. I see no passion in this look. I mean, all that time and money, and all you come up with are a bunch of colored boxes and an ugly font? I could have done that! Maybe I just don't "get it" because I'm a developer, but I think it's ridiculous when companies charge millions for ugly designs and/or websites that don't work.
One company I work with, for example, had another company "refresh" the design of two websites we created for them. When we got the design back and I applied it to the sites, I was amazed. I couldn't tell that they had done anything...until they told us. All they did was change the colors and fonts slightly. And I think they added a ribbon to the top of one of the sites. I don't know what they charged for their "services," but knowing the firm, I'm pretty sure it was a lot.
My point is this. If you have the balls to charge a client over a million dollars for something, what you deliver in the end better be f-ing amazing!!
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they said they've been working on it for 8 months
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I actually have a recording of the new Local on the 8's from where I live. I only have one so far. New Intellistar Graphics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7InGTMFfwXk#ws)
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As hard as it may be to believe I'm about 99.9% sure TWC had a fair share of input in how they wanted their graphics to be presented so to make it seem like the group of graphic designers that worked on this for them just sat around on their butts and threw some crap together just for the money is a bit insulting.
Why are you insulted? Are you planning on producing sub-par work when you get a job? My guess is no, so why be bothered by what I think?
Anyway, I was being sarcastic about the no time thing. Working in the marketing business myself, I have no doubt that TWC had lots of meetings about the new look. And I have no doubt that the company they hired spent a lot of time on the project. That's why I'm so unimpressed.
If you want to be a designer, that's awesome. I wish I was. I look at some of the things people have done and am amazed. I can see the passion in them. I see no passion in this look. I mean, all that time and money, and all you come up with are a bunch of colored boxes and an ugly font? I could have done that! Maybe I just don't "get it" because I'm a developer, but I think it's ridiculous when companies charge millions for ugly designs and/or websites that don't work.
One company I work with, for example, had another company "refresh" the design of two websites we created for them. When we got the design back and I applied it to the sites, I was amazed. I couldn't tell that they had done anything...until they told us. All they did was change the colors and fonts slightly. And I think they added a ribbon to the top of one of the sites. I don't know what they charged for their "services," but knowing the firm, I'm pretty sure it was a lot.
My point is this. If you have the balls to charge a client over a million dollars for something, what you deliver in the end better be f-ing amazing!!
I understand and you're absolutely right, if I was working for that graphic design company and TWC was throwing loads of money at me to drafting and completing a set of designs for them I would be putting a 1000% of work and effort into making it the best thing I possibly could.
My problem was just that it's possible that they could have been kept to a short leash by TWC on just how far to go with their designs since they would have the final say anyway. Maybe they were adamant about wanting to keep the final layout "plain and simple." There's a lot of cable networks that have somewhat similar designs I'll admit.
Clearly, I didn't know you were just being sarcastic on the part of your post I bolded, the way you framed it, you sounded serious. Otherwise I wouldn't have responded in the first place. I didn't mean to offend or anything, obviously I made more out of it than I should have and I apologize for that.
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Is it true that our local forecasts on The Weather Channel are getting shorter and local forecasts on Canada's Weather Network are getting longer? These new local forecasts on The Weather Channel do remind me of The Weather Network as there are maybe only two songs that are played and each one has a few variations to them.
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Is the local radar always going to show now regardless if there's precip or not? What happened to the forecast maps we saw in the previews?
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Is it true that our local forecasts on The Weather Channel are getting shorter and local forecasts on Canada's Weather Network are getting longer? These new local forecasts on The Weather Channel do remind me of The Weather Network as there are maybe only two songs that are played and each one has a few variations to them.
speaking of songs, does anyone know the name of the song playing in the LOT8s? I have not seen the "song ID" screen some people claim to see
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Is it true that our local forecasts on The Weather Channel are getting shorter and local forecasts on Canada's Weather Network are getting longer? These new local forecasts on The Weather Channel do remind me of The Weather Network as there are maybe only two songs that are played and each one has a few variations to them.
speaking of songs, does anyone know the name of the song playing in the LOT8s? I have not seen the "song ID" screen some people claim to see
The song ID was for snippets of songs that were playing in the background when they went to a live shot of a random city as they were cuing to commercial break or the LF. The ID would wipe out next to where the show's logo was in the bottom left. The ID had nothing to do with the music playing on the LF.
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You can refer to my video I had posted a couple of posts above. If you pause right at the beginning, you can see a view of a skyline with music playing there. They don't have the titles for the music for the LOT8's.
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Is it true that our local forecasts on The Weather Channel are getting shorter and local forecasts on Canada's Weather Network are getting longer? These new local forecasts on The Weather Channel do remind me of The Weather Network as there are maybe only two songs that are played and each one has a few variations to them.
speaking of songs, does anyone know the name of the song playing in the LOT8s? I have not seen the "song ID" screen some people claim to see
There is no song ID during the actual LF. It was only used for the shows played before going to commercials. That's how I found out the name of a song they played that I hated, because it sounded like a car playing extremely loud, bass-heavy music that rattles the entire block. But now I forgot it. :P
The songs in the LF are part of a sonic branding produced by Man Made Music. (http://www.manmademusic.com/) They also designed the sonic branding for the rebrandings of Univision and UniMás earlier this year. :yes:
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Still tonight, Satellite viewers are not getting any Weather All The Time. The SD feed still has that ugly blank LDL while the HD feed simply has nothing.
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Hmm, I see. Maybe it's just me but the LF music sounds a lot like something you'd hear from McDonalds..
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I was getting tired of it, I mean, Come on! 5 years of the same thing! Unacceptable!
The original WeatherStar lasted, what, five years? Then the WeatherStar III came out with expanded products, and that lasted about another couple of years to a few years, depending on when you got the 4000. Then the 4000 lasted most of the '90s until the XL came out, followed by the IntelliStar. Systems weren't so easy to update, so what was released had to last for a while with very few cosmetic changes.
As another example, during the "Weather You Can Always Turn To" era, fonts, graphics, maps, title banners, etc., stayed pretty much the same for years with hardly any changes at all.
It's really only lately that people demand constant changes, everything new, and everything now. Unfortunately for the broadcasters, it's their job to keep up with public demand, so they have to spend money making changes, releasing updates as soon as possible, and so on. We saw the little glitches that plagued The Weather Channel throughout the day today. Microsoft Windows is guaranteed to never be in 100% working condition when a new version is released because they're so anxious to get something new on the market as soon as possible.
Sometimes change for the sake of change isn't necessarily the best thing.
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There's something I wanted to have clarified about the IS2, did the design remain the same as before or did it also get graphically overhauled like it's IS counterpart? :dunno:
The LDL and local forecast segments on the IS2 are identical to the IS. So identical, in fact, that the IS2 local forecast just has a lot of empty space on the right third of the screen, since there's nothing extra (yet) in the widescreen space that the IS doesn't have.
The only difference between the two is that the IS2 overlays local information on the lower half of the new sidebar.
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Is it true that our local forecasts on The Weather Channel are getting shorter and local forecasts on Canada's Weather Network are getting longer? These new local forecasts on The Weather Channel do remind me of The Weather Network as there are maybe only two songs that are played and each one has a few variations to them.
Today, The Weather Network remains an informational channel, while The Weather Channel is trying to become an entertainment channel. Big difference in terms of the remits the two channels give to themselves. It's a shame.
Even when The Weather Network used the WeatherStar 4000 they got so much more out of it in terms of graphics capabilities. The way they did this was nationally-broadcast backgrounds, so the WS simply had to cue the graphics and text over them without drawing any backgrounds of its own. The graphics and text looked much better than The Weather Channel's output, too, though TWC gave a small preview of what the 4000 was capable of in other modes during "Prime Time Tonight" - same WeatherStar, different fonts. On the other hand, satellite viewers of The Weather Network, or those with a malfunctioning (or no) Star, just got to watch nothing but empty boxes on the screen during the entire local forecast segments. TWN got national forecasts much, much later...
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Is the local radar always going to show now regardless if there's precip or not? What happened to the forecast maps we saw in the previews?
The local radar always showed, whether there was precipitation or not. At least in Daytona Beach, as well as the videos I've seen posted here, the metro radar has only shown when there was precipitation in the area. As far as the forecast maps on the local forecast, I do miss those. I suppose time is a factor, and TWC doesn't seem to be interested in making local forecasts longer than 60 seconds anymore. :cry: Oh, to go back to the days of 3 minute local forecasts... :hmm:
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Here's videos of the first hour from this morning. I do like the changing backgrounds, but find the contrast to be bad on some screens, especially the extended forecast with some of the backgrounds (attached one of them at the bottom). The radar background needs work. Also the general presentation had too much white/light grays during the national broadcast.
4:07 New Local on the 8s - 407am 11/12/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEixuLubcPc#ws)
4:18 New Local on the 8s - 418am 11/12/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-2f8IV266c#ws)
4:28 New Local on the 8s - 428am 11/12/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiY63xFlgdM#ws)
4:38 New Local on the 8s - 438am 11/12/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm5RxHyHT-4#ws)
4:48 New Local on the 8s - 448am 11/12/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rte66dELBEY#ws)
4:58 New Local on the 8s - 458am 11/12/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8unNSvzfZJY#ws)
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"Our first objective is to ensure our fans get their weather, all the time, on our screen, even during commercial breaks and when watching our shows."
Except if you have a cable system that does not have an IS2 and you get nothing on screen during longform and the longform commercial breaks. I get why it's not on screen, technically it's not weather all the time.
"Weather Center Live starts at 10 a.m. ET giving you all the weather stories around our globe and hosted by the most talented meteorologists today."
Huh? A rebroadcast of "Wake Up With Al" was on at 10am ET Tuesday.
"Starting at 8 p.m. ET and throughout the night, every night, we will provide our fans the most engaging stories of real people tackling the natural drama of lives lived in the elements. Shows in November and December at night include Prospectors at 9 p.m. ET and Freaks of Nature at 10 p.m. ET every Sunday."
BS! Prospectors has nothing to do with weather and should be on another channel.
I am happy though that other non weather reality shows are no longer on the schedule.
TWC still does not have a set OCM schedule. Jen was on 4am Tuesday with Alex Walice and today Julie is on with Alex at 4am.
Same music is back under all forecast segments
TWCHD 20131113 0359 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HhB52bYEcQ#ws)
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New Bedford Local Forecast: 11/13/13 Arctic Blast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5e7cx_xVlI#)
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"Our first objective is to ensure our fans get their weather, all the time, on our screen, even during commercial breaks and when watching our shows."
Except if you have a cable system that does not have an IS2 and you get nothing on screen during longform and the longform commercial breaks. I get why it's not on screen, technically it's not weather all the time.
"Weather Center Live starts at 10 a.m. ET giving you all the weather stories around our globe and hosted by the most talented meteorologists today."
Huh? A rebroadcast of "Wake Up With Al" was on at 10am ET Tuesday.
"Starting at 8 p.m. ET and throughout the night, every night, we will provide our fans the most engaging stories of real people tackling the natural drama of lives lived in the elements. Shows in November and December at night include Prospectors at 9 p.m. ET and Freaks of Nature at 10 p.m. ET every Sunday."
BS! Prospectors has nothing to do with weather and should be on another channel.
I am happy though that other non weather reality shows are no longer on the schedule.
TWC still does not have a set OCM schedule. Jen was on 4am Tuesday with Alex Walice and today Julie is on with Alex at 4am.
Same music is back under all forecast segments
TWCHD 20131113 0359 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HhB52bYEcQ#ws[/url])
The SD feed should have WATT right? That's how it is with my hometown cable system. As of a few weeks ago when I checked the cable store in one of our malls, we had the national HD feed because we didn't have IS2 yet. Don't know if they got an IS2 with the Relaunch. Hoping to check Friday.
No Rundown from 6:15AM CT, it worked during Chris' WCL Last Night. Anyone know if we got the LDL during longform before WCL this morning?
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1 addition they should do to the SD intelliStar, where the time is over the TWC logo on the LDL add the current temp and rotate it with the clock.
and i caught this yesterday during the graphics conversion
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1 addition they should do to the SD intelliStar, where the time is over the TWC logo on the LDL add the current temp and rotate it with the clock.
and i caught this yesterday during the graphics conversion
I like that basemap much, much better. The only think they could do is change the text color on the cities from transparent gray to white.
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This might be weird, but I think the old IS radar maps work better on there, while these newer radar maps work better on the IS2.
EDIT: I say this because the newer radar maps look clearer and easier to see/read on the IS2 than they do on the IS. It looks blurry on the IS.
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Spoke to Melissa, the production music is temporary as Martin mentioned before. A new playlist will start soon but all she said was "LOT8s will sound different".
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Spoke to Melissa, the production music is temporary as Martin mentioned before. A new playlist will start soon but all she said was "LOT8s will sound different".
Gangsta Rap!
It looks like the font used on the new Intellistar graphics is Akko Pro Light (result from What The Font). You can see it here http://www.fonts.com/font/linotype/akko/light#try-it-out (http://www.fonts.com/font/linotype/akko/light#try-it-out)
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During long forom shows there is still no weather information on the bottom of screen during commercials beaks for those who do not have the IS2. It should be there because they do it during live shows on the national feed and I don't get why they can't set the computer to turn it on and off during long form?
Are those who have an IS2 getting any info at the bottom during commercials?
Checked out Morning Rush and the lighting was much better today. Overall it had a much brighter and warmer feel.
As they could do with the old studio the walls and now the floor for the desk can change color.
The used a nice warm yellow color for Morning Rush.
(http://t.imgbox.com/abghzojr.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abghzojr) (http://t.imgbox.com/abp0K0KV.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abp0K0KV) (http://t.imgbox.com/abo3yUGI.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abo3yUGI)
(This is an observation not a complaint)
During the first forecast segment at 9am the music was almost at the same level as Mike Bettes' voice.
For WCL they are back to blue. They also started with the OCMs standing at the side table.
(http://t.imgbox.com/abs8Z7SJ.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abs8Z7SJ) (http://t.imgbox.com/adkUDz7a.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/adkUDz7a)
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During long forom shows there is still no weather information on the bottom of screen during commercials beaks for those who do not have the IS2. It should be there because they do it during live shows on the national feed and I don't get why they can't set the computer to turn it on and off during long form?
Are those who have an IS2 getting any info at the bottom during commercials?
The LDL during longform is transparent. If there were a national LDL on the screen, the local LDL would need to have a solid background to cover it up, thus blocking out most, if not all, of the bottom portion of the screen during longform. The only way to show longform full-screen without covering up the bottom is to keep a transparent local LDL, which, unfortunately, means no national LDL underneath.
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During long forom shows there is still no weather information on the bottom of screen during commercials beaks for those who do not have the IS2. It should be there because they do it during live shows on the national feed and I don't get why they can't set the computer to turn it on and off during long form?
Are those who have an IS2 getting any info at the bottom during commercials?
The LDL during longform is transparent. If there were a national LDL on the screen, the local LDL would need to have a solid background to cover it up, thus blocking out most, if not all, of the bottom portion of the screen during longform. The only way to show longform full-screen without covering up the bottom is to keep a transparent local LDL, which, unfortunately, means no national LDL underneath.
I'm not talking about the LDL being on during longform shows. I get why it's off.
I'm talking about the commercial breaks during long form.
Why can't we get LDL the they do on the national feed during commercial breaks on the live shows during longform?
(http://t.imgbox.com/adk1qqEZ.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/adk1qqEZ)
One other observation. They still need to make the lighting on the OCMs at the green screen brighter.
(http://t.imgbox.com/abn7HHNn.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abn7HHNn) (http://t.imgbox.com/advbGM8k.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/advbGM8k)
There's an article from the AP who talked to David Clark.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/weather-channel-tightening-focus (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/weather-channel-tightening-focus)
I found two things interesting,
"Now, The Weather Channel will be able to localize such specialized coverage: if severe weather is threatening the Midwest, for example, the channel in those areas will follow it full-time while other parts of the country will stay in regular programming. Clark said this might happen some 100 to 150 days of the year."
While personally I'd rather watch the severe weather coverage it's good they are going to break into long form for those areas.
This comment also sounds promising,
"The Weather Channel is not abandoning its long-form programming, but is trying to make these shows more focused on science and the weather so they don't seem like they could be on any other channel, Clark said. He cited "Iron Men," a series about construction workers on high-rise buildings, as one that didn't work because it didn't fit the brand. Better fitting the new direction is "Freaks of Nature," a show about people with unusual abilities to withstand the elements."
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If this hasn't been posted yet, here is a clip of my STAR featuring the graphically updated weather advisory scroll:
TWC IntelliSTAR + Weather Statement- Astoria, OR- Nov. 13, 2013- 2:08PM PST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_eUMNIaUNw#)
IMO I like how the scroll does not overlap the LDL so I'll be able to see my current weather conditions at the same time. :yes:
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During long forom shows there is still no weather information on the bottom of screen during commercials beaks for those who do not have the IS2. It should be there because they do it during live shows on the national feed and I don't get why they can't set the computer to turn it on and off during long form?
On the SD feed last night WATT was on during long form the entire time.
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On the SD feed last night WATT was on during long form the entire time.
I think he's talking about the national/satellite feed. which has just the blank grey bar the transparent LDL is cueing over during long form.
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... For example, they don't detail tomorrow's forecast... just today and tonight ...
The Weather Star XL does the same thing. :-P
On the IntelliStar, that appears to be a bug (3rd page not appearing) because in the videos I have seen, the satellite LF gets exposed at the end.
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Please report all bugs and issues related to the IntelliStar or IntelliStar 2 in this thread: https://twctodayforums.com/forums/weatherstar-tech-support/update-related-issues/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/weatherstar-tech-support/update-related-issues/)
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Anyone else with no IS2 notice the clock on the national HD LDL is about 50 seconds behind the actual time?
I know there is a bit of a delay from encoding the HD feed though this seems a bit much.
On my SD IS feed the clock is only off by 4 seconds.
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Spoke to Melissa, the production music is temporary as Martin mentioned before. A new playlist will start soon but all she said was "LOT8s will sound different".
oh good. I thought the playlists were gone for good. This is a relief. Hopefully they stick with the instrumental format.
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Can't TWC just put the National LDL on the SD feed during longform? Or make a smaller LDL to match the IS2? BTW, anyone have vids of the smaller IS2 LDL?
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During long forom shows there is still no weather information on the bottom of screen during commercials beaks for those who do not have the IS2. It should be there because they do it during live shows on the national feed and I don't get why they can't set the computer to turn it on and off during long form?
Are those who have an IS2 getting any info at the bottom during commercials?
The LDL during longform is transparent. If there were a national LDL on the screen, the local LDL would need to have a solid background to cover it up, thus blocking out most, if not all, of the bottom portion of the screen during longform. The only way to show longform full-screen without covering up the bottom is to keep a transparent local LDL, which, unfortunately, means no national LDL underneath.
I'm not talking about the LDL being on during longform shows. I get why it's off.
I'm talking about the commercial breaks during long form.
Why can't we get LDL the they do on the national feed during commercial breaks on the live shows during longform?
Too difficult to keep turning on and off for a few minutes of commercials throughout hours of longform programming?
There's an article from the AP who talked to David Clark.
I'd much rather watch coverage of severe weather anywhere than have to watch whatever longform programming there is, meaning I won't be watching The Weather Channel at all. :hmm:
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I know this May sound harsh but I got to say I absolutely hate these changes to The Weather Channel.
First off I hate the schedule changes. I want weather after 2pm on weekends and later in the evening on weekdays.
2nd I don't like the new graphs/maps at all they look so cheap looking,they looked like they were designed by a bunch of high schoolers in a power point class.
3rd When severe weather breaks out in parts of the country only there going to get break ins what Bullsh-- I want to see the coverage also and not stupid non weather related programming..
4th I don't like the new local on the 8's.
5th. Really don't like that every show after Morning Rush is named WCL. So much for the shows having a different identity with anchor changes.
I see that the weather channel on there facebook page wanted to hear viewers feedback and respond to comments but they never do answer questions on the negative questions or comments that were posted.
Thank god for weather app on my phone this was the final straw for me when it comes to watching the weather channel.
Wonder when we will about the layoffs coming cause it's going to happen.
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Did anyone see this one before? you can barely see the LOT8s font :o
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Did anyone see this one before? you can barely see the LOT8s font :o
It's hidden in the fog. :P
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I like that basemap much, much better. The only think they could do is change the text color on the cities from transparent gray to white.
Really would like to see this too! i'm not really a fan of the current one.
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First off I hate the schedule changes. I want weather after 2pm on weekends and later in the evening on weekdays.
3rd When severe weather breaks out in parts of the country only there going to get break ins what Bullsh-- I want to see the coverage also and not stupid non weather related programming..
I have a feeling due to all the complaints about the reduction in live hours they are going eventually add hours back to the weekends and maybe be an hour weekdays for those on the west coast.
The OCMs that lost shows are being told by their fans on FB how they are not happy.
Agree on the severe weather coverage. Show it everywhere.
What happens if there is sever weather in more than one location? Do they both get the same coverage?
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I am a little confused on the problems with the LDL during long-form, but here is what I saw yesterday.
I have the IS2, so on the HD feed, there was a transparent LDL during the show. During commercials, the transparent LDL was still being used, but a blue box surrounded it.
On the SD feed, the LDL was not transparent and showed up on both the show and commercials.
Also, I think this is being discussed, but for those who have TWC HD and no IS2, what kind of weather information do you get? Just the National Feed?
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I am a little confused on the problems with the LDL during long-form, but here is what I saw yesterday.
I have the IS2, so on the HD feed, there was a transparent LDL during the show. During commercials, the transparent LDL was still being used, but a blue box surrounded it.
On the SD feed, the LDL was not transparent and showed up on both the show and commercials.
Also, I think this is being discussed, but for those who have TWC HD and no IS2, what kind of weather information do you get? Just the National Feed?
During longform (just like right now) nothing. It's the national feed during live programming.
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I am a little confused on the problems with the LDL during long-form, but here is what I saw yesterday.
I have the IS2, so on the HD feed, there was a transparent LDL during the show. During commercials, the transparent LDL was still being used, but a blue box surrounded it.
On the SD feed, the LDL was not transparent and showed up on both the show and commercials.
Also, I think this is being discussed, but for those who have TWC HD and no IS2, what kind of weather information do you get? Just the National Feed?
During longform (just like right now) nothing. It's the national feed during live programming.
OK, now I think I'm understanding the issue. So I guess the only HD viewers getting any type of weather during long-form are those with the IS2. Hopefully they can fix this issue. The transparent idea was cool, but it's not going to work anymore if they need to have a national feed running under the IS2 information.
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HD viewers see absolutely nothing; just the long-form. SD viewers see a blank LDL.
They should definitely start putting the weather data on screen again for SD viewers since there's already an LDL there. Maybe DirecTV or Dish could trade in their current Intellistars (since they aren't used for anything anymore) for Intellistar 2s so that they can display the small LDL containing national data over long form without creating an obstruction for cable viewers.
This wouldn't help cable viewers without an IS2, but TWC really needs to start getting more IS2s deployed to cable providers. SD TV is dying; we're in the HD era now. There's no reason that HD viewers should be getting screwed out of local forecasts. It's 2013. There shouldn't be a such thing as a cable carrier having TWC HD but no Intellistar 2. TWC should've made having an IS2 compulsory for carrying TWC HD just like having some kind of SD Star is compulsory for carrying TWC SD.
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This is what we get on the national feed with no IS2,
(http://t.imgbox.com/acwMkYna.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acwMkYna)
This is why I said it's not really Weather All The Time. They apparently have no setup in place for those who don't have the IS or IS2 to have weather info during longform.
(http://t.imgbox.com/absuQopu.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/absuQopu)
They should at the least turn the national LDL back on during commercials breaks so the gray area is not empty.
(http://t.imgbox.com/acbLlXrG.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acbLlXrG)
On the national SD feed they should turn the national LDL on since they have the space for it and the local LDL would simply cover it up for those who have the IS.
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I don't understand why SD viewers would see a blank LDL on long-form. Since it's not transparent, they could easily have the national LDL running all the time and overlay the local LDL. With HD, as I said, I guess there is no way around the transparency, so TWC is going to need to re-think this idea (though I can't believe they wouldn't have thought about it in the first place). Although, as you were saying SpringRubber, all TWC HD viewers with cable should really have an IS2. Cable providers need to get on that.
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Here's what I'm getting in Cincinnati during "programming hours", during the shows and commercials.
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I'm getting something similar on the SD feed I don't get that Local on the 8s Logo though.
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I know this May sound harsh but I got to say I absolutely hate these changes to The Weather Channel.
First off I hate the schedule changes. I want weather after 2pm on weekends and later in the evening on weekdays.
2nd I don't like the new graphs/maps at all they look so cheap looking,they looked like they were designed by a bunch of high schoolers in a power point class.
3rd When severe weather breaks out in parts of the country only there going to get break ins what Bullsh-- I want to see the coverage also and not stupid non weather related programming..
4th I don't like the new local on the 8's.
5th. Really don't like that every show after Morning Rush is named WCL. So much for the shows having a different identity with anchor changes.
I see that the weather channel on there facebook page wanted to hear viewers feedback and respond to comments but they never do answer questions on the negative questions or comments that were posted.
Thank god for weather app on my phone this was the final straw for me when it comes to watching the weather channel.
Wonder when we will about the layoffs coming cause it's going to happen.
Bitter party of one your table is now ready....LMAO :rofl2:
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Bitter party of one your table is now ready....LMAO :rofl2:
Make that "bitter party of two." I agree with pretty much everything that was said.
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Make that three. The maps are way to simple and it's odd not having snow indicated in white as it is on all other channels.
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I think this could be the solution to the map problem especially on the SD IntelliStar.
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Unfortunately, simplicity is the trend nowadays with graphics, so the maps are here to stay for now. Don't worry, we'll see something else in a few years when a new trend starts haha.
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Make that three. The maps are way to simple and it's odd not having snow indicated in white as it is on all other channels.
It is? As far as I knew TWC was the only channel (on a national scale) using white for snow, I've been seeing blue being used to indicate snow on a radar.
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I've seen both blue and white used to indicate snow on various channels. I suppose it's just what you're used to.
That said, I prefer snow to be indicated by white, and I prefer the land on weather maps to not be white.
P.S.: I remember the days before radar could even show snow. We had to make do with blotchy green and the meteorologist in front of the map explaining that this was snow, and we had to take his word for it!
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I've seen both blue and white used to indicate snow on various channels. I suppose it's just what you're used to.
That said, I prefer snow to be indicated by white, and I prefer the land on weather maps to not be white.
P.S.: I remember the days before radar could even show snow. We had to make do with blotchy green and the meteorologist in front of the map explaining that this was snow, and we had to take his word for it!
Well it wasn't really all that long ago (almost 7 years), that as recently as the IntelliStar didn't have a color code for snow or a wintry mix. So I can understand that. It used to frustrate me to see a shield of green on the radar that wasn't rain, but freezing rain or snow. Sleet was a little easier to detect since it showed up like an embedded thunderstorm in yellows/oranges/reds, but even that could have been mistaken for a regular thunderstorm.
Also the blue isn't something I'm used to, I just wasn't aware any weather related network/website still used white for snow other than TWC. I agree, I rather it be white. To be fari though, it's not like the color codes for rain or a mix is verbatim either. Rain doesn't look green nor does a mixed bag of precipitation coat the ground a fluffy pink. :P
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Good points. I'd personally rather see snow indicated in white on a radar. The idea of white land on weather maps, though, baffles me in any context other than a black-and-white newspaper.
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Speaking of radars, has anyone noticed how the radar on the IS2 seems to be more "zoomed out" than that on the IS? Also, I wish the IS2 would show the bar with the range of times the radar is going through like the IS has, but maybe that's just a personal preference. :hmm:
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Understand your points on the snow color indication.
I do agree with Eric though that the maps should not be white. They should have more of a darker earth color.
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Although this might be off topic TWC is pre-empting Live Weather Coverage after 2pm on Thanksgiving day and Black Friday (11/28-11/29). Hope they reconsider :thumbdown:
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Although this might be off topic TWC is pre-empting Live Weather Coverage after 2pm on Thanksgiving day and Black Friday (11/28-11/29). Hope they reconsider :thumbdown:
I don't remember the schedule in other years but they should reconsider! They're going to get into hot water. If their not already are.
This Sunday is looking intresting for the midwest. wonder what feed DISH and DTV will get? Maybe the area will big enough to cut lonform for everybody?
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Just so you're both aware, they did that last Thanksgiving if I recall correctly. They would have done it last Christmas also, but the Plains was being affected by a snowstorm. It was that "D" storm, but I don't remember the name of it.
The only way they'll reconsider (just like this past Christmas) is if another major winter storm is brewing during that time.
EDIT: Even folks at TWC deserve to be at home w/ family on Turkey Day if the weather across the country is calm and quiet don't ya think?
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Just so you're both aware, they did that last Thanksgiving if I recall correctly. They would have done it last Christmas also, but the Plains was being affected by a snowstorm. It was that "D" storm, but I don't remember the name of it.
The only way they'll reconsider (just like this past Christmas) is if another major winter storm is brewing during that time.
EDIT: Even folks at TWC deserve to be at home w/ family on Turkey Day if the weather across the country is calm and quiet don't ya think?
True and I couldn't remember last year. Heck, I can't even remember the cutting of longform at Christmas last year! Hopefully they'll do that again, however this duel feed talk worries me a little.
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Just so you're both aware, they did that last Thanksgiving if I recall correctly. They would have done it last Christmas also, but the Plains was being affected by a snowstorm. It was that "D" storm, but I don't remember the name of it.
The only way they'll reconsider (just like this past Christmas) is if another major winter storm is brewing during that time.
EDIT: Even folks at TWC deserve to be at home w/ family on Turkey Day if the weather across the country is calm and quiet don't ya think?
True and I couldn't remember last year. Heck, I can't even remember the cutting of longform at Christmas last year! Hopefully they'll do that again, however this duel feed talk worries me a little.
Duel feed? Will Cantore and Bettes be having cage matches to the death? Or maybe sword fights, that'd be cool too. :bleh:
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I've seen both blue and white used to indicate snow on various channels. I suppose it's just what you're used to.
That said, I prefer snow to be indicated by white, and I prefer the land on weather maps to not be white.
P.S.: I remember the days before radar could even show snow. We had to make do with blotchy green and the meteorologist in front of the map explaining that this was snow, and we had to take his word for it!
Not sure what year it was but I remember a graphics update on TWC that had RAIN as blue. It only lasted a short time before going back to green.
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TWC is talking about severe weather for a big part of the mid west on Sunday so it might be the first use of the dual feed or extended live coverage.
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TWC is talking about severe weather for a big part of the mid west on Sunday so it might be the first use of the dual feed or extended live coverage.
I'll take that over the dual feed. Now, maybe I'm in the minority because I have DISH, don't think I've seen dual feed, don't know if DISH qualifies for dual feed. However, I am in WI so Sunday should be very interesting.
They better do something!!!!!!!! I'm a little worried as TWC is also promoting Freaks Of Nature, but that's not till 10PM ET so maybe the weather will be gone by then.
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I counted a total of 130 backgrounds (https://twctodayforums.com/music/backgrounds/)
If an admin wants me to remove them i will gladly do so :)
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Wonder if the backgrounds will change for holidays? Or if the backgrounds can animate?
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"Keith Carson @KeithCarson 13 Nov
There will still be a 7 PM show. It will be hosted by the talented @TWCChrisWarren in a one man kinda format."
All these OCMs and TWC is only using one OCM for 7pm ET after taking away the 10pm and 1am shows?
I just don't get it.
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Krishi wanted me to post this on his behalf, the config of the new Intellistar for Hayward, CA:
First ever Hayward's new Graphics on Local on the 8's at 2:38AM 11/13/2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qnKsGr-tAw#)
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The expert desk is finished!
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Does TWC plan to alternate the time with the current temp?
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Not 100% sure but this looks like the font on all the new graphics
https://www.fontfont.com/fonts/strada/light (https://www.fontfont.com/fonts/strada/light)
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Not 100% sure but this looks like the font on all the new graphics
https://www.fontfont.com/fonts/strada/light (https://www.fontfont.com/fonts/strada/light)
The font was already identified a few pages back (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg186684/?topicseen#msg186684) ;)
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Spoke to Melissa, the production music is temporary as Martin mentioned before. A new playlist will start soon but all she said was "LOT8s will sound different".
Well smooth jazz coming back is like saying three minute LFs are coming back. So if it's not vocals, then it sounds like they're sticking with production music. Oh well just as long as they're not gonna play the same two songs all the time.
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Looks like TWC is still working on the LDL and local on the 8s for the IS#2 :) Now my area has 6 cities in the LDL instead of 3 and they added the hourly temperature page to the local on the 8s today. Also now the backgrounds are different each local on the 8s instead of the original southwest look.
Now my IS#2 LDL has listed:
Arlington
Bedford
Denton
Grand Prairie
Grapevine
Kennedale
which are all Texas Cities on the LDL with Arlington being the Local on the 8s city :) which is whee I am located.
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Spoke to Melissa, the production music is temporary as Martin mentioned before. A new playlist will start soon but all she said was "LOT8s will sound different".
Well smooth jazz coming back is like saying three minute LFs are coming back. So if it's not vocals, then it sounds like they're sticking with production music. Oh well just as long as they're not gonna play the same two songs all the time.
Well I think if they were going to keep vocals wouldn't of they already have a new playlist or keep the old one? I think the tempory production music is coming from the same computer as the vocals did a couple of weeks ago? Also they said LOT8s will sound different. Vocals is not different that's the old format. So if not smooth jazz then I think production music or a different form of instrumental music yet not heard on TWC.
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It's a bit of a shock at first to see the LDL on-screen during commercials, but I suppose it serves a purpose. Mine's the satellite LDL, though, since I'm on satellite.
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This made me Happy!:
Kyla Grogan · 7,281 like this
16 minutes ago ·
Thanks for watching everyone I'll be back Sunday at 3pm to track the severe weather, we are planning to pre empt coverage all day Sunday so join us if you need info
Same old TWC!
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Jennifer Lopez was subbing for Vivian so she is still there since the schedule changes.
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Looks like the entire weekend on air schedule is Weather Center, no more weekend-specific titles.
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I'll probably get slapped for saying this, but anyone think of emulating this?
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A windows xp computer turned off at twc, the old shutdown sound sounded and it was really loud
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Please tell me someone got a clip of that!!
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My TV Guide still shows Day Planner, Weekend View, Weekend Now and First Forecast/On The Radar. When will TWC update there TV Listings?
My opinion about the Relaunch:
On-Air Graphics: C+. Maps are way too simple. Are they still using TruVu? I already miss the old graphics. I do somehow like the new show openers. No one has uploaded the new WCL/WUWA/MR openers yet. These graphics will eventually be outdated in about 2 years.
Intellistar Graphics: A-. The IS really needed new graphics to replace the outdated 2007 graphics. I like it. I'm astonished that the IS could display those graphics.
Schedule: F. You already know.
LDL: B. The LDL should of displayed the Current Temperature at all times, Almanac and ID should of return. I like how the LDL is displayed 24/7 except for Local Inserts. The HD LDL needs to be displayed during Long-Form.
Set: A-
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Saw this happen yesterday:
White squares instead if icons (in some instances):
New Intellistar 2 HD with bad icons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKEVeG9USZ0#ws)
Then the IS2 displayed the local weather, but without a local background:
Local Intellistar 2 over National video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoQW_Fp3750#ws)
After that, the national Lot8s was shown:
National Local on the 8s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YXmWnHX0p0#ws)
I'm left to assume there was a software update and a reboot of some kind.
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No one has uploaded the new WCL/WUWA/MR openers yet.
I did four days ago...
TWC's HD Relaunch: New Show Openers & Teasers - 11/12/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gexRfo33pNk#ws)
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At 2:18 ET there was no LOT8s, but instead a live weather update with the LDL. I'm guessing this will be a weekend-only thing? :dunno:
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I apologize if this isn't something new but it looked different to me...
I just saw a Weather Channel map on NBC Nightly News and the map wasn't all white... There's a gold/brown color on the top that fades to white toward the bottom. I wonder if this is exclusive to NBC, who maybe thought the all-white map is too plain, or something else.
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Strange how some people are getting a transparent LDL during programming, here I'm getting the blue one.
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Strange how some people are getting a transparent LDL during programming, here I'm getting the blue one.
SD gets the blue bar, HD is transparent.
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Strange how some people are getting a transparent LDL during programming, here I'm getting the blue one.
SD gets the blue bar, HD is transparent.
That makes sense, since it allows the widescreen program to not be letterboxed in the classic sense while still maintaining proportion. On the other hand, it doesn't look so pretty. :(
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I really don't care for the graphics. Too generic looking.
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If anyone from twc actually reads these forums...
They mentioned they will be having live severe weather coverage from 4:30 am to 9:30 pm at least, will this be national or just regional with the dual feed? I tried asking on twitter.. no response.
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If anyone from twc actually reads these forums...
They mentioned they will be having live severe weather coverage from 4:30 am to 9:30 pm at least, will this be national or just regional with the dual feed? I tried asking on twitter.. no response.
By the tweets I've seen, I think TWC will go national which is what they should do. BTW, nice Red Mode WCL Open at 5AM CT!
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red mode looks great, except for the blue background on the L bar.. I thought in the previews it was supposed to turn black/gray. would look a lot better. maybe It'll change during the day once they get into breaking weather mode.
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Weather Center Live: Severe Weather Mode Opener (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFqdWSygLSk#)
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red mode looks great, except for the blue background on the L bar.. I thought in the previews it was supposed to turn black/gray. would look a lot better. maybe It'll change during the day once they get into breaking weather mode.
In the preview videos, didn't the L Bar and the LDL look transparent? I haven't seen that since the relaunch during live programing, so maybe that wasn't the best look.
Would someone report if the 11AM ET/10 AM CT WCL turns out to be an extended edition? Thanks.
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Getting a chance to check out clips of the new IS2 LOT8's,
framing the new IS2 local forecast for 4:3 is a step backwards when the finally frame their video and maps for 16:9.
Unless this is just the initial version and a change to full frame is going to happen.
For those wondering, while the studio is already in red mode the national LDL and the wing on the right are still regular colors.
TWC is not going to be live all day as they are already promoting Prospectors for 9pm ET.
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Getting a change to check out clips of the new IS2 LOT8's,
framing the new IS2 local forecast for 4:3 is a step backwards when the finally frame their video and maps for 16:9.
Unless this is just the initial version and a change to full frame is going to happen.
For those wondering, while the studio is already in red mode the national LDL and the wing on the right are still regular colors.
TWC is not going to be live all day as they are already promoting Prospectors for 9pm ET.
The Transparent LDL is only during longform for when video is full screen for those who have the IS2.
Because they made it transparent they can't show the LDL on the national feed during longform.
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red mode looks great, except for the blue background on the L bar.. I thought in the previews it was supposed to turn black/gray. would look a lot better. maybe It'll change during the day once they get into breaking weather mode.
In the preview videos, didn't the L Bar and the LDL look transparent? I haven't seen that since the relaunch during live programing, so maybe that wasn't the best look.
Would someone report if the 11AM ET/10 AM CT WCL turns out to be an extended edition? Thanks.
They just announced all day coverage a few minutes ago.
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Getting a chance to check out clips of the new IS2 LOT8's,
framing the new IS2 local forecast for 4:3 is a step backwards when the finally frame their video and maps for 16:9.
Unless this is just the initial version and a change to full frame is going to happen.
For those wondering, while the studio is already in red mode the national LDL and the wing on the right are still regular colors.
TWC is not going to be live all day as they are already promoting Prospectors for 9pm ET.
Sounds like Prospect and Freaks is a maybe for tonight if there's not severe weather.
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The Weather Alert screen is working on my forecast now, and the alert also shows up on the LDL. You can see both in the video below:
TWC - Memphis IntelliStar - Wind Advisory/Alert Screen - November 17, 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLQNz11Chr4#ws)
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Just seems odd they were promoting Prospectors for 9pm on the 7am hour of WCL.
Why bother promoting the show if you are doing severe storm coverage all day?
The only other answer is they go to the dual feed at 9pm and only the areas with severe weather are getting live coverage.
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Weather Alert worked this morning
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"Dr. Greg Forbes
38 minutes ago
TORNADO OUTBREAK TODAY. I am raising TORCON to 9 for central and east two-thirds of IL, and for IN. TORCON 7 for west OH. TORCON 6 for south MI. TORCON 5 for southeast WI. TORCON 6 for west and north KY. TORCON 4 for east OH. Severe storms and a chance of a tornado in central MI, west IL, east MO, east AR, rest of KY, TN, north AL, north and central MS, northeast LA. TORCON 3 to 4 in these areas. Damaging winds continue across NY, WV, PA, MD overnight."
From the Torcon I'm guessing we might get live coverage 9pm though they are still promoting taped shows for 9pm and 10pm ET.
The HD LDL and Wing have not gone into storm mode yet.
Here's the red storm version of the WCL intro,
TWCHD 20131117 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEvZx_M6AWg#ws)
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I would like to say, the WCL Intro in Storm Alert Mode is awesome. :happy: I really love it. :thumbsup:
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For those wondering about the OCM setup for weekends.
4:30am-7am they are only using one OCM though they use 2 on weekdays.
Ray Stagich was on Saturday. Mark Thibodeau was on Sunday.
Jen Carfagno and Alex Wallace were on 7am-11am.
Julie Martin and Keith Carson are on 11am-2pm.
The severe storm coverage going on now is another reason why TWC should get rid of the jokes when the local forecast starts. Especially in the areas with tornadoes active.
Has the Breaking Weather Alert System (BREWS) graphic been shown on screen since the graphics update?
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That red mode looks quite nice indeed, and it gets the point across.
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Do you know where I can get these icons? I love them! Would be great if they were animated :thrilled: :thrilled: :thrilled: :thrilled: :thrilled: :thrilled: :thrilled: :thrilled: :thrilled:
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OMG Theres a new LOT8s Song!
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They just used the new WCL "red mode" production music during the :08 LF.
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Yeah, I just realized! lol
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I was just about to say. Havent had this happen since 2008
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I may not be so experienced, but I made a small gif image of that cloud with two raindrops! I'm so proud of myself! :dance:
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TWC just scrolled they are live to at least 11pm ET. Good move by them.
Hope for the best for all those effected by the storms.
They have not turned the LDL or HD wing red.
Is the IS2 red for anyone in the area of the storms?
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TWC just scrolled they are live to at least 11pm ET. Good move by them.
Hope for the best for all those effected by the storms.
They have not turned the LDL or HD wing red.
Is the IS2 red for anyone in the area of the storms?
Nope, But My IS2's Wing Did become transparent, and eventually shut off
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TWC just scrolled they are live to at least 11pm ET. Good move by them.
Hope for the best for all those effected by the storms.
They have not turned the LDL or HD wing red.
Is the IS2 red for anyone in the area of the storms?
Nope, But My IS2's Wing Did become transparent, and eventually shut off
As I was typing, my ldl also went transparent
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LDL is staying up through the LF right now
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Nice coverage! I hope TWC's ratings Skyrocket today! Then maybe nights and weekends will change. I'm not thinking it will you never know.
As for LDL and Wing, is it hard to see when its transparent? Nothing has happen to the national info. Yet??? Just saw the :48 LO8, Nice Alert music! I want to say Storm Alert but TWC hasn't said those words since 2008. I don't even remember if they used SA for normal severe weather.
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TWC skipped the breaks at and LOT8s at 3:18 and 3:28pm ET.
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Storm Alert Music
New Bedford IntelliStar: Storm Alert Mode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVGnEiwdxR0#ws)
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The Transparent Wing and LDL are showing over the LF, while the LF is Transparent and you can see the National Forecast Under. I'll include A pic.
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Storm Alert Music
New Bedford IntelliStar: Storm Alert Mode ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVGnEiwdxR0#ws[/url])
That music creeps me out! :blink:
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It sounds like stock music for a chase scene in a move or TV show.
A bit to intense for me.
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I was under a couple Severe Thunderstorm Warnings earlier, so I got to see/hear the warning scroll on TWC. There actually is a warning tone, it's the same one that was used on the IntelliStar from 2004-2013, with Allen Jackson's narration: "A Severe Thunderstorm Warning has been issued for your area."
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There isn't supposed to be a tone. Your IntelliStar must have forgotten the memo. Mine doesn't have a tone/narration and all of the videos I've seen don't either.
Post from Tyler:
Please use this thread to report specific issues with this weeks IntelliStar and IntelliStar 2 update. This thread is not to be used for speculation, only for reporting bugs.
Known issues (please do not report):
- Severe weather crawl: Crawl no longer has beeps - this is intentional. Also, all crawls are now red no matter if they are a warning, watch or advisory
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Has anybody had the cities in the bottom bar change? We have locations on our bar that aren't even within my cable company's territory. Just wondering if this is more of a "regional cities" thing or if they mistakenly added these cities.
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Has anybody had the cities in the bottom bar change? We have locations on our bar that aren't even within my cable company's territory. Just wondering if this is more of a "regional cities" thing or if they mistakenly added these cities.
Sounds like a mistaken addition. Mine are still Frankfort, Shelbyville and Versailles.
EDIT: I caught a glimpse of my now restored IS2, and in addition to the three aforementioned cities, it seems Lexington, Lawrenceburg, Georgetown and Nicholasville were also added.
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IntelliStar Background (https://twctodayforums.com/music/backgrounds/) count up to 200!
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The Weather Alert screen is working on my forecast now, and the alert also shows up on the LDL. You can see both in the video below:
TWC - Memphis IntelliStar - Wind Advisory/Alert Screen - November 17, 2013 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLQNz11Chr4#ws[/url])
The HD version doesn't have the alert screen animations...
Has anybody had the cities in the bottom bar change? We have locations on our bar that aren't even within my cable company's territory. Just wondering if this is more of a "regional cities" thing or if they mistakenly added these cities.
My HD Local added two or three new locations...and they aren't what I would consider local. I live in Berkshire County, MA and only Pittsfield and North Adams are local cities. The rest are Hudson, NY - Westfield, MA - Holyoke, MA and Torrington, CT
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The weather alert screen showed up on my STAR this morning. However, when the alert is shown on the LDL, the text gets cut off. Here's the video:
TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Nov. 18, 2013- 8:28AM PST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ202jO6Jf8#)
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Caught this tornado video yesterday. Notice how the banner is covering up the tornado. Saw this shown a few times with the banner in the same place each time.
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So after about a week of the new Local On at the 8's... I REALLLYYYYY think they should eliminate the opening slide with the "Hello" message on it and also eliminate the last slide with the "Summary". It would allow for a consistent use of the hourly forecast and close up radar. Even when there's an alert. I'm noticing now when there's an alert, instead of cutting out a pointless hello message slide, they only show today's forecast and not tonights, and they also eliminate the hourly forecast because there's precip in the area and have to show both radars. Just get rid of the pointless Hello slide and summary slides so we can have more weather :lol: :biggrin:
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So after about a week of the new Local On at the 8's... I REALLLYYYYY think they should eliminate the opening slide with the "Hello" message on it and also eliminate the last slide with the "Summary". It would allow for a consistent use of the hourly forecast and close up radar. Even when there's an alert. I'm noticing now when there's an alert, instead of cutting out a pointless hello message slide, they only show today's forecast and not tonights, and they also eliminate the hourly forecast because there's precip in the area and have to show both radars. Just get rid of the pointless Hello slide and summary slides so we can have more weather :lol: :biggrin:
micvachon, I could not agree with you more! That hello screen, in my opinion, does absolutely nothing for the viewer. I also noticed that tomorrow's text forecast was eliminated too.
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Tomorrow's text forecast on the SD intellistar only shows during the evening hours (assuming there's no bulletin). Otherwise you get the hourly forecast instead.
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Right, right.. Sorry I meant the 36-hour text forecast... and now it's only 24 hours. My bad.
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The "Hello" screen has to go. It's a nice idea, but unless they update them regularly, they'll get old very quickly. They also stick out during severe weather coverage like yesterday, or if the message goes against the current conditions/forecast.
Also - and this is purely a pet peeve - addressing a city like it's a person drives me up a wall.
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The "Hello" screen has to go. It's a nice idea, but unless they update them regularly, they'll get old very quickly. They also stick out during severe weather coverage like yesterday, or if the message goes against the current conditions/forecast.
Also - and this is purely a pet peeve - addressing a city like it's a person drives me up a wall.
While I was under a tornado watch yesterday mine just said, "Frankfort, this is your weather."
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So after about a week of the new Local On at the 8's... I REALLLYYYYY think they should eliminate the opening slide with the "Hello" message on it and also eliminate the last slide with the "Summary". It would allow for a consistent use of the hourly forecast and close up radar. Even when there's an alert. I'm noticing now when there's an alert, instead of cutting out a pointless hello message slide, they only show today's forecast and not tonights, and they also eliminate the hourly forecast because there's precip in the area and have to show both radars. Just get rid of the pointless Hello slide and summary slides so we can have more weather :lol: :biggrin:
I agree completely. We don't need a large analogue clock or the jokes. The summary is nice, I'll admit, but when time is of the essence (and TWC gives so little time to local forecasts these days), it's not absolutely necessary, anyway.
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While I was under a tornado watch yesterday mine just said, "Frankfort, this is your weather."
At least there wasn't some stupid joke in there. The threat of a tornado pretty much removes any appropriateness of levity in such a situation.
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The best thing that could be added to the IntelliStar instead of a welcome message could be the Metro Map!
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Since I kind of like the jokes (sometimes) here's how I would do it. Remove the entire slide and cue the CC screen earlier, thus giving more time for the ad crawl to run. Just before the local ad begins to crawl, you insert the small joke there. Only for about 2 or 3 seconds and it should be short enough to fit within the limitations of the ad crawl.
Just a thought. :P
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For some reason, my SD feed has fewer cities on the LDL than the HD feed. The SD only has three, whereas the HD has six or seven.
Also, as Steve-O said, the IS2 does not have the animations for the alert screen. Another example of how inconsistent they were. :pinch:
The Welcome page does get old after awhile, and honestly, the Summary page goes by so darn fast that they could probably remove that too. Also, as far as the backgrounds, I wish they could somehow program them to show certain ones for a certain time of day. Seeing a sunrise background at 10:00 at night just didn't seem fitting...
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The welcome screen doesn't really bother me, probably because it flies by so fast. It's only up for like 2 or 3 seconds. A couple of times I wasn't able to read it fast enough.
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Just extend the LF to 1:30 add a headlines screen to the beginning, metro map, extended forecast. When there is an alert, replace the headlines screen. This way everyone gets what they want.
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I'd personally like to see the clock/joke screen gone, and have a local headlines screen added (like on the satellite LF), similar to how local stations do wx headlines. They could come up with hundreds, and create rules so that the IntelliStar knowns which ones to display based on the immediate forecast.
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I'd personally like to see the clock/joke screen gone, and have a local headlines screen added (like on the satellite LF), similar to how local stations do wx headlines. They could come up with hundreds, and create rules so that the IntelliStar knowns which ones to display based on the immediate forecast.
Agreed. The current welcome page is pretty lame. Replacing it with weather headlines is a great idea. They did something similar in the early days of the WeatherSTAR 3000.
http://www.twcclassics.com/watch/482/unk (http://www.twcclassics.com/watch/482/unk)
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An update about local on the 8s music.
As localonthe8s said the current music is temporary and they are working on bringing real music back. But there is no set date. Also they are working on putting the title and artist on screen too.
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To be honest, I'd rather keep the current music than go back to Taylor Swift and Nickelback.
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To be honest, I'd rather keep the current music than go back to Taylor Swift and Nickelback.
Agreed! even though it's 2 production tunes it's way better than the recent vocals.
Another idea would be having a NWS Short Term Forecast at the beginning of each LF or even a Regional Outlook by TWC.
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...Also they are working on putting the title and artist on screen too.
Holy cow! That's something I suggested in the early 90s! :biggrin:
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To be honest, I'd rather keep the current music than go back to Taylor Swift and Nickelback.
Agreed! even though it's 2 production tunes it's way better than the recent vocals.
Another idea would be having a NWS Short Term Forecast at the beginning of each LF or even a Regional Outlook by TWC.
Like the "Local Update" from the WeatherStar 4000? How will that get squeezed into a one-minute forecast, though?
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If there's ever a time that TWC would revert away from the Taylor Swift type of music, it'd be real soon after this transition. I'll be quite content if the music they add in addition to what's playing now is similar to each other. I'm a fan of displaying the song title and artist on screen; however, this kind of hints to me that the music selections will be similar to what we've been hearing lately.
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If there's ever a time that TWC would revert away from the Taylor Swift type of music, it'd be real soon after this transition. I'll be quite content if the music they add in addition to what's playing now is similar to each other. I'm a fan of displaying the song title and artist on screen; however, this kind of hints to me that the music selections will be similar to what we've been hearing lately.
Me too, I'm kinda surprised they decided it was worthy enough to add the song title and artist on the screen. If that's the case, it's likely they won't use production music any further. I hope they don't revert back to vocals. After all the money they spent on the transition, and higher royalties associated with licensing vocals, it wouldn't make sense (especially after all the complaints over the years). TWC has been keeping quiet about the type of music they'd be reusing too which makes me further suspicious.
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The Wintry Mix icon looks like a snowflake with a beard. I kinda like it.
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For anyone with satellite, is there a reason why Washington, DC has been left out for the cities listed under "Today's Forecast" (especially when it shows the Northeast region's map)? It just makes no sense to leave out the forecast for the nation's capital. :blink:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgY8AZcsk5E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgY8AZcsk5E#)
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I have a few problems with the maps/forecasts.
First of all, there is PLENTY of room to put Memphis on that map. The Southeast one or the Midwest one.
Memphis, TN is almost 2x larger than Jackson, MS; yet, not only is Jackson on the map, they are also on the forecast.
You would think that it would almost only have sense to have the exact same cities on the map as on the forecast. I noticed that Charleston, West Virginia is included on the forecast but not on the map for the NE, and then Charleston, South Carolina is included on the map and forecast on the next screen for the SE. That may get confusing, since there are no states labeled.
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Why the hell is Los Angeles in the southeast cities list? :blink:
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It seems the local radar bug is fixed for my star unit.
Now it shows
Hello screen
Current Conditions
Regional Radar
Hourly Forecast
Tonight
Tomorrow
7 Day forecast
Summary
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They need to stop using this layout for the person a the expert desk.
(http://t.imgbox.com/acgOC3Sc.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acgOC3Sc)
It's not necessary to have them on screen with the maps and the maps are way to small.
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I have a few problems with the maps/forecasts.
First of all, there is PLENTY of room to put Memphis on that map. The Southeast one or the Midwest one.
Memphis, TN is almost 2x larger than Jackson, MS; yet, not only is Jackson on the map, they are also on the forecast.
You would think that it would almost only have sense to have the exact same cities on the map as on the forecast. I noticed that Charleston, West Virginia is included on the forecast but not on the map for the NE, and then Charleston, South Carolina is included on the map and forecast on the next screen for the SE. That may get confusing, since there are no states labeled.
I think that's where Los Angeles is listed. Mike is right about LA being in the SE map, Memphis fits in alphabetical order on the list, so it's likely they left out Memphis and put in LA for some peculiar reason.
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I have a few problems with the maps/forecasts.
First of all, there is PLENTY of room to put Memphis on that map. The Southeast one or the Midwest one.
Memphis, TN is almost 2x larger than Jackson, MS; yet, not only is Jackson on the map, they are also on the forecast.
You would think that it would almost only have sense to have the exact same cities on the map as on the forecast. I noticed that Charleston, West Virginia is included on the forecast but not on the map for the NE, and then Charleston, South Carolina is included on the map and forecast on the next screen for the SE. That may get confusing, since there are no states labeled.
They needed to be consistent and list every city that was marked on the map (and vice versa). There's some cities which are marked on the map and not listed (like Bismarck and Washington, DC), and there's some cities which are listed but not marked on the map (like Jacksonville, Birmingham, and Oklahoma City).
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So I tuned in to TWC And I saw The Intellistar had no CC Report and the Doppler radar was missing, so I tuned in to TWC HD And saw that the Intellistar 2 skipped the CC page and Doppler radar! I'm confused. HiRAD Outage Maybe? :hmm:
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Also, There are major STAR Cueing issues, Maybe TWC IS having problems.
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(http://i.imgur.com/DKyrlDL.png)
Honestly, I didn't think they were gonna bother tonight. The previous discussion can continue don't mind me. :P
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So I tuned in to TWC And I saw The Intellistar had no CC Report and the Doppler radar was missing, so I tuned in to TWC HD And saw that the Intellistar 2 skipped the CC page and Doppler radar! I'm confused. HiRAD Outage Maybe? :hmm:
In addition, Weatherscan units have been intermittently rebooting. Some sort of data issue to be sure.
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Forgot to mention, I saw A Black screen with the words "No Video Input" with a countdown clock and a brief view of a WeatherStar XL CC Screen. I am really Confused! I need to sit down.
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Just checked Weatherscan on FiOS and noticed the current conditions for all cities is "no report" and the radar is "Temporarily Unavailable". It just rebooted and is showing TWC SD feed.
On TWC SD I noticed the LDL just giving local forecasts and never shows current conditions.
It also says "A wind advisory is in effect until 6pm this evening." That's 3 hours outdated.
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TWC Is going Nuts!
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Forgot to mention, I saw A Black screen with the words "No Video Input" with a countdown clock and a brief view of a WeatherStar XL CC Screen. I am really Confused! I need to sit down.
Hmm. you saw my video of the XL having a major issue the other week..
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Forgot to mention, I saw A Black screen with the words "No Video Input" with a countdown clock and a brief view of a WeatherStar XL CC Screen. I am really Confused! I need to sit down.
But don't you have the IntelliStar??
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For those who haven't seen this in their area yet, this is what the
Weather Bulletin Alert Page looks like when there's more than one alert issued. The weather related icon that appears on the left side of the alert is removed.
Also I've noticed on the HD feed that the HD National Forecast video has remained scaled up in the left hand corner like it is when the LDL/Sidebar is present, in fact it was present allbeit no information at the time. They probably should keep this way and keep the LDL/Sidebar enabled with information or make the transition into the Local on the 8s segment smoother because they way it was where the video feed suddenly out of the blue popped up fullscreen or the Local on the 8s intro would lock up was very abrupt and didn't look like a clean transition at all. :no:
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My guess is that I saw Zapata, TX' Weatherstar XL. They have one near Laredo also
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Forgot to mention, I saw A Black screen with the words "No Video Input" with a countdown clock and a brief view of a WeatherStar XL CC Screen. I am really Confused! I need to sit down.
Hmm. you saw my video of the XL having a major issue the other week..
Yes I saw your video, but for a split sec. I saw the no video input screen
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I think this is the most colorful radar map you will get on the new IS, thanks to Boreas :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kCA9hItsCQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kCA9hItsCQ)
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I mentioned this before but one of the biggest issues I have with the new local forecast and LDL is that they need to alternate the time with the current temp. If you miss the current temp when they show it, you have to wait for all the cities to cycle through before you can see it again. This feature was shown on the video of the simulated graphics. It needs to happen.
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It seems the local radar bug is fixed for my star unit.
I checked this morning and am still getting the local radar, with no precip.
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It seems the local radar bug is fixed for my star unit.
I checked this morning and am still getting the local radar, with no precip.
I guess that was an error. But that format is better. You got the 24 hour forecast and the hourly forecast.
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Does anyone know how many background pictures they use on the IS2? Seems like every time I watch, I see a new picture.
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Does anyone know how many background pictures they use on the IS2? Seems like every time I watch, I see a new picture.
Was wondering the same thing about the IS. There are tons of different backgrounds, I have seen some repeat, however.
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Okay, I know that the font that TWC is using is Akko. Does anyone have a link of where I can get it as a free download for my computer?
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So, it has been a while since I've Asked...... But has anybody tried to emulate the new graphics? Please Reply. Byeee
:wave:
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Does anyone know how many background pictures they use on the IS2? Seems like every time I watch, I see a new picture.
Was wondering the same thing about the IS. There are tons of different backgrounds, I have seen some repeat, however.
Over 240 (https://twctodayforums.com/music/backgrounds/) different backgrounds.
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Hey guys, I quit watching TWC for awhile, and I haven't been in this website in ages. And I know I'm late to the party, but I think these graphics are great. They look very British.
Also the new LOT8s music is a lot better than that current crap they had.
This channel has regained a viewer.
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This post is regarding the issue about the text for the weekend being hard to read on the 7 day, there's a fairly quick and easy way to fix this: Add the dark pillar bars to "SAT" and "SUN" and there will never be an issue of the BG interfering with the text.
Also about the city markers on the local/regional radars: Add the light gray rectangle they use for the radars on live programming underneath the city names to make it easier to read when there's precipitation.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, there's an example below. Those are just my two cents though. :)
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I have a question for those who have the IS2, should TWC have kept the previous version or do you like the current version?
Formatting the HD LOT8s for 4:3 is a step backwards. There so so much unused space on the right.
The HD LOT8s should be formatted for 16:9 They can easily show the national HD LOT8s letterboxed with the LDL at the bottom for those who don't have the IS on the TWC SD feed.
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I'd like to see a sidebar in there, though I'd prefer a more thorough reformatting to make better use of the screen.
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Here's some artwork on the rebrand..
(http://cdn2.digitalartsonline.co.uk/cmsdata/slideshow/3492803/The-Weather-Channel-Dials.jpg)
(http://cdn2.digitalartsonline.co.uk/cmsdata/slideshow/3492803/The-Weather-Channel-Icons.jpg)
http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/graphic-design/trollbck-company-rebrands-weather-channel/ (http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/graphic-design/trollbck-company-rebrands-weather-channel/)
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For some amusing, and unknown reason, a locally played commercial plate about Tony Chachere's Creole Food Seasoning. Nothing out of the ordinary there, but when that locally played commercial was finished, the same tony chachere's commercial was playing on the national feed about 3 seconds late. Funny
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The studio lighting is still different depending on where the OCMs are and the color balence from one camera to another seems to change to.
Notice how Jen's top changes colors,
(http://t.imgbox.com/acpNH8An.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acpNH8An) (http://t.imgbox.com/acdC9hqb.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acdC9hqb) (http://t.imgbox.com/abs9IYP3.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abs9IYP3) (http://t.imgbox.com/acfwj9Bq.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acfwj9Bq) (http://t.imgbox.com/adsWjbOl.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/adsWjbOl) (http://t.imgbox.com/abipGwZN.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abipGwZN)
Notice how Maria's dress goes from looking dark purple to dark blue when she is standing in the same area.
(http://t.imgbox.com/actm858L.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/actm858L) (http://t.imgbox.com/aczSg1FY.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/aczSg1FY) (http://t.imgbox.com/adsxHFIP.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/adsxHFIP)
The color difference between the studio and the green screen was there before the studio changes and wonder why they can't get the color balance to match.
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TWC Re-Added narration on the IntelliStar. Don't know if it's a bug for my intellistar, but yeah
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I'm just happy Allen is back on my Intellistar, it was getting kinda boring.
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Vocal Local returns to Local On The 8s: 12/17/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNQxoSOhrE4#)
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Woah woah woah, did I just hear the old sound effects to the text forecast? :blink:
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A beach scene background sure does go well with the weather for Memphis, Tenessee. NOT.
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Vocal Local returns to the IntelliSTAR- December 17, 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emyf3ZvSfjU#)
I was shocked to hear that Vocal Local had returned when I saw an LF this morning. What was even more surprising was the return of the weather sound effects! :o
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Does anyone else's SD IS still have green basemaps and buzzing on the 7-day and summary screens?
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Not a huge fan of the weather sound effects. Combined with the music & vocals, it's very distracting and to me, not necessary.
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Not a huge fan of the weather sound effects. Combined with the music & vocals, it's very distracting and to me, not necessary.
Haven't heard it on mine yet since the wx is boring right now, but I agree. It doesn't logically make any sense. :no: I could kinda see if the BGs actually correspond with said sound effects/text forecast like it was on the previous version.
Does anyone else's SD IS still have green basemaps and buzzing on the 7-day and summary screens?
Green Basemaps: NO
Buzzing: YES
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I have a feeling the sound effects may have been added back by mistake. They are indeed distracting, and I am sure TWC will probably remove them soon. I will admit I am rather surprised TWC put Allen back on the IS. I figured they would have just done Cantore's narrations on both unless that's not possible. (But I like Allen better, so I'm not complaining.)
A few observations from the two recent videos posted:
- On Alex's video, with the Winter Weather Advisory, the animating circle and icon to the left is no longer shown - just text.
- The radar does not zoom in when there is no precip. anymore (not sure if this had been fixed earlier or not).
- Also, I really wish TWC would figure out what's wrong with the buzzing and skipping of the LF and audio. This is only on SD, from what I have seen.
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TWC should probably double-check their changes :P because there is an error with the Vocal Local. When a long text-based forecast is being narrated, the narration is not shortened for timing unlike with the old STAR graphics. Instead, the narration gets cut off abruptly at the end of the product time.
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So I found these videos on YouTube. I guess they are the prototype of the real LOT8s, but they feature moving backgrounds, variations of the WCL theme we all know and love, and Jim's narrations. The first is without weather alerts, while the second is with them. Why do I feel that these look better than the real thing? :thinking:
(Of course, the narrations and numbers make no sense - just noticed that. :P )
Local on the 8's No Alert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQB6I22PTIQ#ws)
Local on the 8's Alert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40BeFTpbyMU#ws)
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In addition to the narrations being back, the text forecast audio clips that the IS used of rain/wind/etc...in '07-'08 are back as well.
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In addition to the narrations being back, the text forecast audio clips that the IS used of rain/wind/etc...in '07-'08 are back as well.
Yes, that has already been mentioned ;)
Also, watching on the SD feed, and I noticed that the LOT8s bug window is still there.. I wonder if DirecTV has plans to close that up anytime soon?
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That does look odd on the DirecTV forecast. I wonder if it's even being supported; in other words, whether anyone even cares about updating it.
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Is it me, or does the narration sound louder and clearer than in previous versions. :unsure:
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Is it me, or does the narration sound louder and clearer than in previous versions. :unsure:
I can tell you that the sound effects seem louder to me, at least, on the video that Jim posted. Heck, they almost drowned out the narration, and the music certainly could not be heard.
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Does anyone else's SD IS still have green basemaps and buzzing on the 7-day and summary screens?
Yes I get that clicking sound and sometimes the music stopping just before the 7 Day Forecast.
Also some segments like the hourly forecast have no introduction.
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Is it me, or does the narration sound louder and clearer than in previous versions. :unsure:
I can tell you that the sound effects seem louder to me, at least, on the video that Jim posted. Heck, they almost drowned out the narration, and the music certainly could not be heard.
The sound effects are very loud. The "rain sound" sounds like static. Also not a fan of the narration returning. I hope both are temporary.
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Interesting...I've got showers in the forecast for today. I'm not getting wx sound effects, only the narration.
EDIT: Nevermind I'm hearing them now.
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Just got home and turned on TWC and the HD border is black/Grey and the TWC logo is red! Along with the SA music on the LO8, I'm liking this SA Look!
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The IS LDL is matching the national HD LDL.
There is a bit of dot crawl on the TWC SD logo text.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz5-Uqh2n1E#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz5-Uqh2n1E#ws)
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Both Intellstar SD And intellistar 2 ldl'is haven't cued except for Istar 2 Sidebars
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Dat red LDL though... :3
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Noticed something during a severe thunderstorm warning last night. As the alert crawled, the LDL wasn't active, but the sidebar was. Sometimes even occurred when there wasn't a warning crawl. On another side note, the national LDL's clock looks to be about 2 minutes slow.
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Here on FiOS the TWC HD National LDL clock is 1min behind real time.
They changed something in the lighting on Saturday and now there is a very bright yellowish light on the OCMs when they are at the green screen.
You can notice where the dress is a lighter green from the light being cast on it.
(http://t.imgbox.com/adiBDd4M.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/adiBDd4M)
If the green screen is on the other side of the studio I don't get why this light reflection is happening.
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I saw a little of the Gemini coverage last night. I like the red TWC logo a lot and I find myself wishing they would just use it all the time, but then I guess it would lose its Storm Alert impact. :dunno: At least the normal turquoise logo is still better than the old blue one IMHO.
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There's a big and annoying error with my IntelliStar. The CC Screen is blank most of the time today and sometimes it shows the Current conditions. Anyone else getting this error? It's bad.
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There's a big and annoying error with my IntelliStar. The CC Screen is blank most of the time today and sometimes it shows the Current conditions. Anyone else getting this error? It's bad.
New Bedford IntelliStar: Current Conditions Temporarily Unavailable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmCCbbVpfZA#)
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I really wish I could see what TWC was doing behind the scenes. The re-launch was over a month ago, and yet many errors still remain present on the local forecasts. I know it's all about patience, but I wonder if the technical crews are really working around the clock to fix the issues, or if the LF has, once again, become a secondary project for this channel. Perhaps the holidays slowed things down. :thinking:
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Freezing Rain and Blowing Snow icons on 7 Day Outlook :o
the Blowing Snow icon looks really scary.
Freezing Rain and Blowing Snow Icons on 7 Day Outlook (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj6uDhstVEE#)
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It does seem to be a rather janky update. Like I mentioned on Alex's FB, maybe some of the problem has to do with the 60 second local and the IS is having a difficult time trying to handle everything that it needs to do in such a short amount of time (loading the screen, estimating the narration time on text based before it decides if it has time to show the next text screen and/or daypart, or if it should just skip directly to the ext. forecast.)
It's just a thought.. I don't really know much about the intellistar's system build, but the IS is now over 10 years old isn't it?
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Considering technicians from TWC may be reading this board to see what the technical complaints are, I don't think it's wise to be saying, "fix it or I'll kick you." :hmm:
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My Intellistar is at it again, and is still annoyingly now showing the CC Screen! It happens in a pattern, one LF it's blank, the next it has The CC. It also seems my Intellistar and Intellistar 2 have different temperature readings. It's very annoying! I wanna go to TWC and kick them!
Maybe instead of complaining about it and making threats like that, you should go to the Weather Star tech support board here and create a topic about it :rolleyes:
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Just got home and turned on TWC and the HD border is black/Grey and the TWC logo is red! Along with the SA music on the LO8, I'm liking this SA Look!
Dat red LDL though... :3
That means that the Intellistar is upset! :censored: :rofl2:
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I understand I made a mistake and I won't let anything slip out like that ever again. :happy:
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Now that the graphics have been around for awhile the one thing I still don't like are the white maps with no terrain on them. TWC in my opinion went a bit to simple on the maps and I hope they make changes this year.
The updated graphics on Weather Nation are much better by simply having the terrain on the maps.
(http://t.imgbox.com/abrgVgAu.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abrgVgAu) (http://t.imgbox.com/abgNGiYg.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/abgNGiYg) (http://t.imgbox.com/acsZK45b.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/acsZK45b)
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Emergency Satellite Local Forecast: 1/1/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJK_16QULPM#)
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I thought it might just be one of the live weather updates not using OCM's due to the holiday because they were using the live show music and the IS local LDL was still on screen.
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I thought it might just be one of the live weather updates not using OCM's due to the holiday because they were using the live show music and the IS local LDL was still on screen.
I remember seeing this new emergency satellite feed back in November during Morning Rush when the Satellite forecast didn't work.
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TWC has gone red and gray for storm coverage.
That storm mode local forecast music track is back.
I really don't like that same song being used for every LOT8s.
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TWC has gone red and gray for storm coverage.
That storm mode local forecast music track is back.
I really don't like that same song being used for every LOT8s.
It must of sucked for you to watch TWC during Hurricane Katrina then. :lol:
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I really don't like that same boring, repetitive, production-esque song being used for every LOT8s.
FTFY :biggrin:
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Oh well, y'all can't satisfy everyone :D
HOLY S**T!! OMG WEATHER CHANNEL STORM ALERT!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHJgOT6Y1YM#)
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I still like the sonic branding attached to this relaunch. Very reminiscent of some past sets, for example:
2001-2003
Weather Channel Baseball Weather Center Intro 2002 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9ITbGkFSSo#)
2003-2005
Weather Center open (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7agRV8VAvw#)
2013-
New Weather Center Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiypV-coHpI#ws)
Not identical, but some nice similarities in there.
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I do like the red and gray color theme branding for storm coverage.
I don't remember the music used during Katrina. Was the music as intense as the storm coverage song they are using since the graphics change?
Some of the TWC show production music must come from a music catalog service because I noticed the song used for the old "On The Radar" theme is being used by HSN currently and was used by FOX News for background on a taped segment.
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I don't remember the music used during Katrina. Was the music as intense as the storm coverage song they are using since the graphics change?
After hearing the current storm alert theme in Victor's earlier post, I think it's really weak and lacking depth. I don't hear a lot of true panic and urgency. I linked a video here that someone recorded of the storm alert music that debuted during Katrina just before his area was actually hit. The forecast speaks for itself. You can see what was done in 2005 to compare to today's graphics, and the song is entitled "Eye of the Storm" by Stephen Arnold Music. In my opinion, this song began the whole phenomena of "Storm Alert" to where even the general public recognize it today.
Clip 4 of Hurricane Katrina local forecast 8/28/05 7:08pm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVAwJjnenLY#)
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I do like the red and gray color theme branding for storm coverage.
I don't remember the music used during Katrina. Was the music as intense as the storm coverage song they are using since the graphics change?
Just like Patrick said (and the video clip he posted), it was definitely way more intense than what's being used now. What's being used now is weaksauce in comparison. The 2005 version was the true definition of STORM ALERT and what an appropriate, yet unfortunate coincidence it was first introduced and used for such a monstrous storm.
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Caught this earlier today... where the hell is Cape Code? :rolleyes: :P
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I do like the red and gray color theme branding for storm coverage.
I don't remember the music used during Katrina. Was the music as intense as the storm coverage song they are using since the graphics change?
Some of the TWC show production music must come from a music catalog service because I noticed the song used for the old "On The Radar" theme is being used by HSN currently and was used by FOX News for background on a taped segment.
Yeah, it seems like they do, because one of the old Squeezeback/Live weather update song was called Datastreams on one of those catalogs, but I just cant remember which one.
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I don't remember the music used during Katrina. Was the music as intense as the storm coverage song they are using since the graphics change?
After hearing the current storm alert theme in Victor's earlier post, I think it's really weak and lacking depth. I don't hear a lot of true panic and urgency. I linked a video here that someone recorded of the storm alert music that debuted during Katrina just before his area was actually hit. The forecast speaks for itself. You can see what was done in 2005 to compare to today's graphics, and the song is entitled "Eye of the Storm" by Stephen Arnold Music. In my opinion, this song began the whole phenomena of "Storm Alert" to where even the general public recognize it today.
Clip 4 of Hurricane Katrina local forecast 8/28/05 7:08pm ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVAwJjnenLY#[/url])
Really miss hearing the old storm alert on TWC! A few years ago, I actually made a mp3 clip using the first 5 seconds of it for weather alerts/notifications on my phone..
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I do like the red and gray color theme branding for storm coverage.
I don't remember the music used during Katrina. Was the music as intense as the storm coverage song they are using since the graphics change?
Some of the TWC show production music must come from a music catalog service because I noticed the song used for the old "On The Radar" theme is being used by HSN currently and was used by FOX News for background on a taped segment.
Yeah, it seems like they do, because one of the old Squeezeback/Live weather update song was called Datastreams on one of those catalogs, but I just cant remember which one.
Data streams is from video helper. (Specifically track 27 on the disk 29)
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Caught this earlier today... where the hell is Cape Code? :rolleyes: :P
Whoever typed that out has never been to New England :itsok:
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Now that I think about it, this is the first time the IS LF has ever matched the current on-air look. I specifically say LF, since I'm aware the 2008 LDL matched the on-air look at the time.
Does anyone else think the emergency LF is kind of a downgrade? The transitions look really bare-bones. The look itself does too, but that part I don't mind, since it matches the current graphics, which I really like. It's just the transitions that make it look pretty basic.
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Comparing Evan's still from Dec. 22nd, https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg187453/#msg187453, (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg187453/#msg187453,)
Noticed the storm mode background colors are a little darker compared to the last time it was used.
(http://t.imgbox.com/adxN6FgT.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/adxN6FgT)
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Comparing Evan's still from Dec. 22nd, [url]https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg187453/#msg187453,[/url] ([url]https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg187453/#msg187453,[/url])
Noticed the storm mode background colors are a little darker compared to the last time it was used.
([url]http://t.imgbox.com/adxN6FgT.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imgbox.com/adxN6FgT[/url])
That could just be difference in your capture cards.
Now that I think about it, this is the first time the IS LF has ever matched the current on-air look. I specifically say LF, since I'm aware the 2008 LDL matched the on-air look at the time.
Not really. The IntelliStar technically matched the on-air look during the BWTL era, alongside the SLF and the XL.
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When the IS made it's debut, technically it matched the "Live by It" on air graphics also. The only time it honestly never had any correlation to the on air graphics was definitely the previous graphical look outside the LDL, but after 2010 that was no longer the case.
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So, I think this is an addition, but the LDL stays on the bottom of the screen during LFs. May just be a bug, but it seems after the LF it normally cues. It doesn't happen to the IS2 though. I kinda like this, it gives you more weather.
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It's done that before during a past winter storm this season. Don't remember which one though.
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It's done that before during a past winter storm this season. Don't remember which one though.
Oh, I thought it was added. I guess not. It still looks cool. :yes:
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Doesn't look half bad actually....
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The only problem is it blocks the rundown area at the bottom that tells you what forecast products are coming up next. It's not a big deal, they could just remove it and leave the LDL running. It looks better that way imo.
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I'd honestly prefer to see the LDL on during the local forecasts, too, and perhaps with an expanded sidebar on the HD forecast to make better use of all that wasted space on the side of the screen.
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I think you don't understand, my ldl runs all throughout the LF, and still is continuing to do so.
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I think you don't understand, my ldl runs all throughout the LF, and still is continuing to do so.
Yeah I know, it's doing it here too. It may be done on purpose.
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Saw it today here as well. Something tells me it's intentional, because notice how the clock is absent.
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I think it's pointless. Why have an LDL showing your local weather information when you're watching your local forecast? :rolleyes:
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I think it's pointless. Why have an LDL showing your local weather information when you're watching your local forecast? :rolleyes:
There's (almost) always been an LDL on the local forecast ever since day one. If nothing else, you'd get to see the current conditions if you missed the first few seconds of the local forecast. The IntelliStar 2 didn't have one, and there wasn't one on either IntelliStar since the new format came out.
I think it's handy. You're going to see different pieces of information in the screen and in the LDL at the same time, so you get more bang for your buck, as it were.
P.S.: The strangest LDL error I ever saw was when the WeatherStar 3000 showed the Travel Cities Forecast on the LDL. That just looked... weird.
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Especially with this new LDL, seeing the secondary City "Fall River" and third city "Wareham" during the 8s really make alot of sense with no Metro Page. :)
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I don't remember the music used during Katrina. Was the music as intense as the storm coverage song they are using since the graphics change?
After hearing the current storm alert theme in Victor's earlier post, I think it's really weak and lacking depth. I don't hear a lot of true panic and urgency. I linked a video here that someone recorded of the storm alert music that debuted during Katrina just before his area was actually hit. The forecast speaks for itself. You can see what was done in 2005 to compare to today's graphics, and the song is entitled "Eye of the Storm" by Stephen Arnold Music. In my opinion, this song began the whole phenomena of "Storm Alert" to where even the general public recognize it today.
Clip 4 of Hurricane Katrina local forecast 8/28/05 7:08pm ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVAwJjnenLY#[/url])
That forecast is insane!
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The Storm Alert theme sounds like its from a team rocket hideout in a game boy game.
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:cry: IntelliStar has the popular music again. I liked those 2 songs even though people possibly hated hearing them for 3 months.
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I preferred hearing the same two (or three) songs on the local forecasts instead of the vocal music. I'm simply not a fan of the current popular styles, and hearing the song's lyrics competing with the forecast being read is very annoying. To me, it's just another attempt by The Weather Channel to attract audiences by pretending to be a top 40 radio station. And just think of the money they could save if they weren't paying those royalties...!
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I preferred hearing the same two (or three) songs on the local forecasts instead of the vocal music. I'm simply not a fan of the current popular styles, and hearing the song's lyrics competing with the forecast being read is very annoying. To me, it's just another attempt by The Weather Channel to attract audiences by pretending to be a top 40 radio station. And just think of the money they could save if they weren't paying those royalties...!
Actually the music played is not the top 40. There playing Adult Alternative. Plus out of the past 2 years I have only heard about 1-2 twc vocal songs on the hit radio station. Since I'm in High School I know no one really knows these twc vocal artists. Maybe one here and there. Trust me if twc played top 40 vocal songs so many people would be angry cause of all the trash in the music. Twc would need to be updated to a TV-MA channel. Although we all miss the Jazz days, we got weather nation. Jazz music 24/7. Hopefully comcast will pick it up. Think of it now as 2 weather channels, choose your music preference. Plus Roku carries weather nation. Although advertisments interrupt your forecast every 10 min or so.
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I just saw 'Pittsburgh, this is your weather' on the IntelliStar's welcome screen during LOT8s. :D
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The LOT8s is using a St. Patrick's Day theme. Instead of the Welcome, the national LF started with the phrase "It's quite easy being green.".
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AMHQ graphics package meshes nicely with the current set of graphics, but the gloss on the AMHQ logo and bug sticks out a bit too much. Not sure how I feel about their music package, either. Either it's production music, or they dropped the branded chime already. :itsok:
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I preferred hearing the same two (or three) songs on the local forecasts instead of the vocal music. I'm simply not a fan of the current popular styles, and hearing the song's lyrics competing with the forecast being read is very annoying. To me, it's just another attempt by The Weather Channel to attract audiences by pretending to be a top 40 radio station. And just think of the money they could save if they weren't paying those royalties...!
Actually the music played is not the top 40. There playing Adult Alternative. Plus out of the past 2 years I have only heard about 1-2 twc vocal songs on the hit radio station. Since I'm in High School I know no one really knows these twc vocal artists. Maybe one here and there. Trust me if twc played top 40 vocal songs so many people would be angry cause of all the trash in the music. Twc would need to be updated to a TV-MA channel. Although we all miss the Jazz days, we got weather nation. Jazz music 24/7. Hopefully comcast will pick it up. Think of it now as 2 weather channels, choose your music preference. Plus Roku carries weather nation. Although advertisments interrupt your forecast every 10 min or so.
I hope Comcast picks it up as well. We all can hope. :whistling:
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I preferred hearing the same two (or three) songs on the local forecasts instead of the vocal music. I'm simply not a fan of the current popular styles, and hearing the song's lyrics competing with the forecast being read is very annoying. To me, it's just another attempt by The Weather Channel to attract audiences by pretending to be a top 40 radio station. And just think of the money they could save if they weren't paying those royalties...!
Actually the music played is not the top 40. There playing Adult Alternative. Plus out of the past 2 years I have only heard about 1-2 twc vocal songs on the hit radio station. Since I'm in High School I know no one really knows these twc vocal artists. Maybe one here and there. Trust me if twc played top 40 vocal songs so many people would be angry cause of all the trash in the music. Twc would need to be updated to a TV-MA channel. Although we all miss the Jazz days, we got weather nation. Jazz music 24/7. Hopefully comcast will pick it up. Think of it now as 2 weather channels, choose your music preference. Plus Roku carries weather nation. Although advertisments interrupt your forecast every 10 min or so.
I hope Comcast picks it up as well. We all can hope. :whistling:
Comcast won't pick it up in your dreams. Comcast owns NBC which owns TWC, they never would let competition take over one of their prime networks.
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I preferred hearing the same two (or three) songs on the local forecasts instead of the vocal music. I'm simply not a fan of the current popular styles, and hearing the song's lyrics competing with the forecast being read is very annoying. To me, it's just another attempt by The Weather Channel to attract audiences by pretending to be a top 40 radio station. And just think of the money they could save if they weren't paying those royalties...!
Actually the music played is not the top 40. There playing Adult Alternative. Plus out of the past 2 years I have only heard about 1-2 twc vocal songs on the hit radio station. Since I'm in High School I know no one really knows these twc vocal artists. Maybe one here and there. Trust me if twc played top 40 vocal songs so many people would be angry cause of all the trash in the music. Twc would need to be updated to a TV-MA channel. Although we all miss the Jazz days, we got weather nation. Jazz music 24/7. Hopefully comcast will pick it up. Think of it now as 2 weather channels, choose your music preference. Plus Roku carries weather nation. Although advertisments interrupt your forecast every 10 min or so.
I hope Comcast picks it up as well. We all can hope. :whistling:
Comcast won't pick it up in your dreams. Comcast owns NBC which owns TWC, they never would let competition take over one of their prime networks.
Aw, man! Stupid NBC :thumbdown:
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I wish they would use these maps:
(http://i.imgur.com/6fcfHDU.png)
Instead of the bland white ones: (http://i.imgur.com/o5YpM2N.jpg)
I don't remember space being light blue. :thinking: Oh well, I guess they're used to match the new graphics. Still prefer the other ones.
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Is it me, or do the OCMs sound like they are shouting on air now to the point it's almost ear raping? You can even hear the echo in the studio. :blink:
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Is it me, or do the OCMs sound like they are shouting on air now to the point it's almost ear raping? You can even hear the echo in the studio. :blink:
the show music playing during the forecast segments doesn't help out either :(
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Is this brand new as of today?
EDIT: Looks like they used it back during winter weather coverage. I really have no idea what happens at TWC anymore.
(http://i.imgur.com/Sw0zymtl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/o0zgYjol.jpg)
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I was watching LOT8s this morning and... No more vocal music!
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it happened yesterday while my darn intellistar 2 jr was out i was like (what? where is the vocals? thank goodness!) so... hopefully a music change in the future...
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Just so you guys are aware, discussion about the LOT8s music is happening over in the General LF Discussion (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/general-lf-discussion/msg189645/#msg189645) thread. ;)