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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => Programming and Graphics => Topic started by: sboyle522 on June 13, 2011, 08:08:47 AM
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I am a 17 year old, avid Weather Channel fan (actually we can say used to be). I want some feedback from you guys on these topics. I was a fan from 2000-2008. I absolutely loved the Weather Channel. It was all I watched. I actually watched it so much that my parents would tell me to change the station and I got really mad at them when they did that but anyways, I had a dream of working there when I grew up. So now 2008 comes and they have their HD relaunch and layoff meteorologists. Then they introduce Wake Up With Al and other new programming shows and all this junk. Do you guys agree? Do you think The Weather Channel will ever go back to its original self or at least something close? Thanks for your feedback!
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TWC decided to take the same route as all the other channels did... instead of focusing on their initial concept they just focus on ratings. Unless fashion changes I won't count on TWC going back to how it was pre-2009.
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This has been discussed multiple times, but I think most here would agree with you. I personally stopped watching around 2003.
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It went from being all about the weather to weather and the news. And so many stupid shows like Storm Stories that are just the same reruns over and over. I don't like it as much, and I don't plan on it changing. I actually think The Weather Channel will eventually be changed to "The Weather and News Channel."
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Yes, it's been discussed countless times. TWC will not change the path its in currently. I miss hearing monthly,35-song smooth jazz playlists
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Unfortunately, TWC will likely never, ever go back to the TWC we all knew and loved. :cry: Had the station had the chance to do such a thing, I believe it would have happened a long time ago.
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It's best that we don't beat up on an already dead horse for this matter. TWC is never going back to how it used to be years ago, and that's how it's going to be no matter what we do.
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I just watched their crappy update in disgust a few minutes ago. There are severe thunderstorms going on as we speak in Nebraska, the Twin Cities, and Oklahoma City. Paul Goodloe just casually said "there could be golfball-sized hail", and then it immediately went back to "Surviving the Elements." :club: There have to be tornados involved for TWC to even consider preempting their crummy programming. It has gotten beyond ridiculous. :hammer: :angry:
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One can at least hope that TWC is using the dual-feed feature... for those subscribers with IntelliStars. For everyone else, reality programming it is! :angry:
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Honestly, everyone here needs to calm down. The only reason I see TWC not preempting any of their long form is because hardly anyone is watching. When they see more viewers tuned in, they will likely preempt their long form. Most of the time, I watch TWC these days for a source of noise, not on a fan's point of view, and if I do decide to watch on a fan's point of view, it's because I am bored, which is a rarity.
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I hope you all do realize that TWC isn't the best channel to watch when your area is under threat. Local tv stations can do a much better and in depth coverage, which is why most people tune into them. TWC can't cover the entire US during outbreaks, don't expect them to. I don't care for the long form, but some of the programs are okay. I'd rather them have that on @ say 12AM or 1 than 5-7 and 8-10. TWC is what it is, and unless someone steps in that can keep the ratings up while showing weather, it's the news, some weather, and longform for now. The only thing that we could hope for is for them to move the long form to more "convenient" time of the day.
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Watch the weather.com forecasts. They're still hard weather. :happy:
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Hail Weather Nation lol.
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It could be because people get their forcasts online
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While watching You Weather Today this morning, I thought to myself that I actually like some of the things they've done--like a short business segment, some news, and top weather stories like the fires in Arizona. Sure I do miss the old TWC some when it was just all about weather, but time goes on and things change. They need to keep up with the "hip" new technology and all that. Like Patrick said, it's just a fact of life now that NBC has different ideas of how to run the channel, but I'm still going to be open to their changes.
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They are very inconsistent with severe weather coverage. Last night, they preempted the regularly scheduled programming when severe weather was heading toward Chicago. Tonight, Paul Goodloe and Dr. Greg Forbes rushed through the update, even though there is severe weather with tornado damage in Kentucky as we speak. All I see is some dinky weather alert below the screen. They wouldn't even bother to interrupt that "Twist of Fate" program, no matter what. :nono: News flash, TWC, there may be a real life twist of fate going on right now! This is looking like another Flick and a Forecast fiasco again. :hammer: Why can't they stop their programming now, and show us what is happening in Kentucky!!! :angry:
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While watching You Weather Today this morning, I thought to myself that I actually like some of the things they've done--like a short business segment, some news, and top weather stories like the fires in Arizona. Sure I do miss the old TWC some when it was just all about weather, but time goes on and things change. They need to keep up with the "hip" new technology and all that. Like Patrick said, it's just a fact of life now that NBC has different ideas of how to run the channel, but I'm still going to be open to their changes.
I actually like the ideas of the short news segments in the morning. It keeps me from having to watch something else and its kinda like a "one stop shop" for whats happening now in the morning. The only thing I don't like is that the commercials are too long and that is space where weather coverage could be. IMO, things have gotten somewhat better over time since they initially introduced this new way of doing things.
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There is a tornado warning just south of St. Louis but TWC is not pre empting the longform. I agree with the earlier posts, they have been very inconsistent with their coverage of severe weather. In a season like this where severe tstorms happen almost every night TWC has really demonstrated how unreliable it has become. The old TWC we loved isn't coming back, so the best option now is local TV or NOAA radio.
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There is a tornado warning just south of St. Louis but TWC is not pre empting the longform. I agree with the earlier posts, they have been very inconsistent with their coverage of severe weather. In a season like this where severe tstorms happen almost every night TWC has really demonstrated how unreliable it has become. The old TWC we loved isn't coming back, so the best option now is local TV or NOAA radio.
TWC doesn't want to "waste time" covering live weather anymore. It is cheaper and more convenient for them to repeat programming, rather than break into the programming and actually cover the severe weather. We might as well get used to it. TWC will only cover severe weather when they feel like it.
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There is a tornado warning just south of St. Louis but TWC is not pre empting the longform. I agree with the earlier posts, they have been very inconsistent with their coverage of severe weather. In a season like this where severe tstorms happen almost every night TWC has really demonstrated how unreliable it has become. The old TWC we loved isn't coming back, so the best option now is local TV or NOAA radio.
TWC doesn't want to "waste time" covering live weather anymore. It is cheaper and more convenient for them to repeat programming, rather than break into the programming and actually cover the severe weather. We might as well get used to it. TWC will only cover severe weather when they feel like it.
Well, TWC really shouldn't always be the one you count on for weather, although they should cover it. They probably see best that people watch their local weather stations for localized severe coverage.
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I've watched TWC since pretty much it's inception. I don't mind some of the news segments in the middle of a program, but it no longer interests me to watch regularly because they DO NOT cover weather anymore. :angry:
I live in Alabama near the tornado ravaged area and we have very severe storms ALOT. They don't even mention it most of the time and when they do, it's so hurried it's unwatchable. It seems like they're going for the glamour girl look and not the weather reporting that put them on the map. :no:
They let the very good meteorologists go in favor of the babe types and I don't like it, so I don't watch. JMHO
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I've watched TWC since pretty much it's inception. I don't mind some of the news segments in the middle of a program, but it no longer interests me to watch regularly because they DO NOT cover weather anymore. :angry:
I live in Alabama near the tornado ravaged area and we have very severe storms ALOT. They don't even mention it most of the time and when they do, it's so hurried it's unwatchable. It seems like they're going for the glamour girl look and not the weather reporting that put them on the map. :no:
They let the very good meteorologists go in favor of the babe types and I don't like it, so I don't watch. JMHO
I'll agree. Another thing is the '60 Second Forecast'. While it's a good idea, I feel like my forecast is rushed....normally they say nothing about Memphis or they say something like "Memphis coming in at 100", before they have to hurry on to the next city.
Oh, and another thing. During the LWU, they always say "Well, while you're watching Twist of Fate, we're watching a Tornado Warning!"....like it's nothing.
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TWC's decision to show less weather coverage has really pissed me off also :angry:
I'll tell ya one thing, if I was in charge of TWC's programming, I would cancel all of the long-form shows and revert back to 24-hour weather coverage, the way it was meant to be. That outta piss off the guys over at NBC :P
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I've watched TWC since pretty much it's inception. I don't mind some of the news segments in the middle of a program, but it no longer interests me to watch regularly because they DO NOT cover weather anymore. :angry:
I live in Alabama near the tornado ravaged area and we have very severe storms ALOT. They don't even mention it most of the time and when they do, it's so hurried it's unwatchable. It seems like they're going for the glamour girl look and not the weather reporting that put them on the map. :no:
They let the very good meteorologists go in favor of the babe types and I don't like it, so I don't watch. JMHO
I'll agree. Another thing is the '60 Second Forecast'. While it's a good idea, I feel like my forecast is rushed....normally they say nothing about Memphis or they say something like "Memphis coming in at 100", before they have to hurry on to the next city.
Oh, and another thing. During the LWU, they always say "Well, while you're watching Twist of Fate, we're watching a Tornado Warning!"....like it's nothing.
It's obvious that from Monday through Saturday, forget about any type of actual weather coverage past 5pm, besides two dinky hours of Weather Center two hours apart from one another. TWC has sent a message to all of us that they are a weather-related reality/news/entertainment channel now, and don't rely on them for severe weather or weather coverage in general anymore. TWC hopped on the reality/entertainment bandwagon like how MTV, TLC, VH1, A&E, Discovery, etc. hopped on it. Even when there are tornado warnings, they won't cover it during the week. They'd rather show a played-out episode of Storm Stories, Twist of Fate or Peter Lik, rather than break into programming. I haven't seen a preemption in close to a month now, and I don't look for or expect that to change any time soon. I would ignore TWC's primetime until Sunday night, which is the only night you can get real weather coverage throughout the night.
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TampaMill, remember this: severe weather sells.
If they preempt programming, they're expecting ratings/viewership to go up from this coverage, so they can rack up the $$.
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If they preempt programming, they're expecting ratings/viewership to go up from this coverage, so they can rack up the $$.
Money money money.... it's all TV networks care about these days :rolleyes:
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Its unfortunate that as the digital world (internet) continues to grow, the analog world (television and radio) continues to lessen.. my theory about them not preempting is that their TV ratings are low compared to their online services.. Maybe more preempting would happen if their TV services rated higher than their online services.. ;)
Yes, they put too much emphasis on weather.com in their recent promos, but with this economy, they probably have no choice to, as OCMs need less time for them to keep up with payments and so they do not have to worry so much about growing bankrupt. As Mike said, their worry is money, and the only way to attract money is to add more interesting things to channel that will appeal the average viewer, such as Peter Lik's show.
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If they preempt programming, they're expecting ratings/viewership to go up from this coverage, so they can rack up the $$.
Money money money.... it's all TV networks care about these days :rolleyes:
As should any business. Money is kind of an important thing in any business. I think it always has been about money. Viewing habits have changed dramatically over the past decade plus. More and more people spend less and less time watching TV, so when they do, these networks need something that will attract them. I know many of you don't like hearing this, but "reality" sells. Shows like Storm Stories and Peter Lik are probably what people want to see, and it's obviously working for TWC.
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If they preempt programming, they're expecting ratings/viewership to go up from this coverage, so they can rack up the $$.
Money money money.... it's all TV networks care about these days :rolleyes:
As should any business. Money is kind of an important thing in any business. I think it always has been about money. Viewing habits have changed dramatically over the past decade plus. More and more people spend less and less time watching TV, so when they do, these networks need something that will attract them. I know many of you don't like hearing this, but "reality" sells. Shows like Storm Stories and Peter Lik are probably what people want to see, and it's obviously working for TWC.
TWC is a business, and in order for a business to be successful it needs to respond to what the consumer market wants. And now the market wants reality TV. Those of us who are into weather and want a live 24 hour broadcast devoted to it are just a niche. The loss of live weather coverage isn't an accident, TWC knows exactly what it's doing. Unlike back in the 80s when they started, thanks to the internet and other info sources people now have many other ways to get their local weather. Still I think TWC should cover severe weather since that was their original mission, and that even during what live coverage remains their quality has gone downhill, and that's not about to change. A few nights ago I caught a "Live Update" where the OCM basically said "There are big storms in Missouri and Tennessee. You know what, you want more info go to weather.com. Now back to Tornado Diary." The message was clear: "Don't bother looking to us for storm info anymore, go online or elsewhere."