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Messages - twcfan

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Everything Else TWC / Re: New Graphics
« on: March 04, 2010, 10:40:56 PM »
Actually I like the simplicity, and think one of the reasons the current set sucked is because they were too detailed and looked horrible when scaled down. That is another reason the classic icons were so good. The new ones look like they'll scale better.

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Everything Else TWC / Re: General TWC Discussion
« on: March 03, 2010, 10:37:38 PM »
Like the concept, but they need to improve the tile composite they're using to create the radar, as there are too many squares absent at a time.

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Local Forecast / Re: New LDL
« on: March 02, 2010, 11:53:44 PM »
Are they really going to wait and have no LDL for a whole week, or is the LDL not present only on satellite feeds (DirecTV and Dish Network) but still visible on cable? I know TWC's penchant to do things on Tuesdays, but this seems to be a problem that should be fixed sooner rather than later. Or perhaps the old style LDLs will reappear for the remainder of the week?

BTW, I just saw the old blue LDL (absent all day on DirecTV) pop up only to disappear in a few seconds.

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Local Forecast / Re: New LDL
« on: March 01, 2010, 02:58:32 PM »
By the way, like the old-school orange and blue theme.

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Local Forecast / Re: New LDL
« on: March 01, 2010, 11:07:57 AM »
Is that what the empty space on the left is for, ads?

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Everything Else TWC / Re: Animated Icons on weather.com's Local Page
« on: February 26, 2010, 11:27:35 PM »
I miss animated icons, so overall I like it. However, it seems like the animation for rain is the same whether light or heavy. Most of all, why do clouds animate (great with fog) but the sun doesn't?

twcfan

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Everything Else TWC / Re: New Graphics
« on: February 26, 2010, 10:56:29 PM »
By the way, do new graphics include new icons, or is it limited to new map sets and new show graphics? I'll be happy with just the latter, but both would make me ecstatic.

twcfan

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Everything Else TWC / Re: New Graphics
« on: February 26, 2010, 10:52:43 PM »
we do not have more dumbing down of the graphics with fewer and fewer details

Sorry, but unfortunately this is a growing trend in the industry. The less info there is, the less confusion there is for the viewer.

Perhaps at the national level this is true, but it seems like the opposite locally. Local stations want to appear that they're actually "microcasting" for your hometown and/or neighborhood, making maps appear more cluttered or making it seem like the weather segment lasts a few maps too long. WGN's Tom Skilling (truly the weather master) actually switched to regional temperature maps that are too detailed with their HD update. I think the lack of detail is one factor that makes watching the local forecast videos (if your city is actually big enough for a true segment) on either weather.com or on Accuweather less satisfying than a local newscast; it's just too vague. The Weather Channel could show more cities if they went back to the way they did the regional maps in the 90s by not showing a forecast icon after every temperature and instead placing icons in key spots to indicate weather conditions.

As for making things simpler, I think the big cold snap was actually an example of how the national maps are too dumbed down. There were not enough cities showing on the map to effectively illustrate the breadth of the cold air, and instead of one good map showing a spread of midwest temps, the OCMs have to click through multiple frames (here's Chicago <click and frame transition> here's Minneapolis. I think another example is during severe weather, where the OCMs geographical knowledge is so poor and no city name is close by that they just speak in generalities or point over there (even the geographically magnificent Bill Kenelly has fallen off, not to mention folks like Warren Madden [major city/Hurricane Hunter name dropper] or Stephanie [okay, unfair]).

While it is always a good idea to make things clear, TWC's attempts at simplification oftentimes makes things worse. An example is the map named "Isobars/Precipitation". If they want to be simple, replace "Isobar" with "Pressure", and go through the trouble of animating H's and L's like local forecasters do. Another example is the strict adherence to the 4-color rain and snow scheme. We have had big snows in the east, and yet the detail of where the snow has actually fallen gets washed out in a sea of violet because no one has the sense to use more gradations of color?

And mentioning trends, TWC seems to be a follower and never a leader, at least when it comes to actual weather and not ratings gimmicks. I give credit for their HD transition. However, remember how long it took for TWC to start showing actual city names on the radar? To show topography on their maps? To use color shading on the temperature maps? To start using winter precipitation radar? And when they try to innovate, the results are often poor. I really wanted to like TruPoint, but using the poor resolution and unlabeled Google map background so you can't really tell where you are on the map is not an example of good simplicity. They never could incorporate dropsonde data well or consistently, either, during hurricane season. Most local weathercasters can display forecast models better than showing them off a website, for another example, and apart from a few like Jim or Carl most OCMs seem ill-equipped. That ultimately may be why TWC needs to simplify, not because it betters understanding, but because it cannot present weather complexity with sufficient finesse across all of its OCMs.

twcfan

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Local Forecast / Re: New LDL
« on: February 26, 2010, 10:21:36 PM »
Yes this does solve that problem with the SD feed and I am glad about that. Dont think there were any pans for the HD feed sadly. They need to make it horizontal

Believe me, as bad as it looks it SD all that extra space looks even worse on HD. Too bad they won't transition the HD feed at the same time (do they ever)?

twcfan

PS Thanks for the video clip.

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Local Forecast / Re: New LDL
« on: February 26, 2010, 10:10:59 PM »
From the youtube video, it appears TWC is finally acknowledging the big waste of space in the bottom of the screen since they switched to the projector instead of the green screen. Hopefully it also means that the left side of the screen will no longer be taken up on the HD feed, as having the left bar really reduces the impact of HD.

twcfan

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Everything Else TWC / Re: New Graphics
« on: February 26, 2010, 09:42:18 PM »
I have been able to confirm that YWT and various other shows will be debuting new graphics very soon.
About time! Among my hopes are 1) the solid background behind city names will be gone and 2) we do not have more dumbing down of the graphics with fewer and fewer details (Remember when the national temp map would actually show temps for more than 10 places at a time?)

twcfan

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Programming and Graphics / The Weather Channel adds a movie night
« on: October 20, 2009, 09:27:28 PM »
Thought this was just a joke in the Onion, but it's on the TWC online press room with The Weather Channel Adds Feature Films to Network Schedule. Starting Fri, Oct 31, with The Perfect Storm and continuing weekly with March of the Penguins,Misery, and Deep Blue Sea. I don't like the continued erosion of weather coverage, but it might make a good diversion.

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