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Local Forecast / Re: Independent Music Removal
« on: July 02, 2009, 12:10:11 PM »
Jazz Nazi. Haha. Love it! :happy:

You're right, Jeanne. Jazz critics and traditional jazz fans are so narrow-minded when it comes to what jazz music is. What I find interesting is that they all say the same thing. It's like they're reading from the "Non-Traditional Jazz Hater's Guide Book." Take a look at a typical "review" by allmusic.com critic Scott Yanow.

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Altoist Eric Marienthal (who is also heard on tenor, soprano and baritone) plays well throughout One Touch but he is the only reason to acquire this disc. The backup, which includes keyboardist-producer Jeff Lorber, a few vocalists and guest appearances from pianist David Benoit and bassist John Patitucci, is mostly pretty anonymous. The originals are forgettable and usually fade out when the music gets too heated. With all of the selections clocking in between three-and-a-half and almost five minutes, potential radio airplay was obviously the main purpose behind the music, which is consistently commercial, accessible, mildly soulful and very predictable. At best, One Touch succeeds as background music but a close listen will frustrate listeners who know that Eric Marienthal is capable of much more.

According to Mr. Yanow, the backup musicians are bad because they stay "anonymous." Um, isn't that what backup musicians are suppose to do? I love his quote about how "potential radio airplay was obviously the main purpose behind the music." That comment is typical in his reviews. Apparently, Eric is an artist that wants to make money and get fans by having his music played on radio. Who does he think he is!? Seriously, what artist doesn't want airplay, fans, and a steady paycheck? :blink:

And what exactly is "a close listen?" You're either listening to the music or you're not. And fans will be frustrated because "Eric Marienthal is capable of much more." Really? Funny, anytime I've listened to (oh, excuse me..."closely" listened to) a song by an artist I liked, I either liked the song or I didn't. I've never been "frustrated" thinking they were "capable of much more." Sounds like something you'd say to your kid.

As for the originals being "forgettable." I agree somewhat. There are some duds on that album. But most albums are like that. But there are some songs that are memorable. Most of Yanow's reviews are like this. However, if you go to his website, he says that he "loves all eras of jazz and blues." Really!? You have a funny way of showing it. Look, I don't expect a critic to like all forms of music, but why in the world would you review a genre (or sub-genre) that you clearly loathe?

Not only does it make you look like a douche, but it's useless to those who do like it. I'd say about 90% of the jazz albums I like have scathing reviews. And they pretty much all say the same thing. "Predictable background music," "anonymous backup musicians," "clearly written for commercial airplay." Gee, thanks Mr. Critic. You've been really helpful. Now I know what to buy  and what to pass up. :yawn:

In addition to jazz being a business like any other genre, "jazz nazi's" don't seem to realize that jazz is a melding of genres. It's rock, it's R&B, it's blues, it's pop. Combined in various forms, improvised, and jazzed-up. That's why I have a tremendous amount of respect for Miles Davis. He understood both. He never stayed with any style for too long. He was always evolving and willing to try new things. Sadly, few artists have that mindset. They're comfortable staying where they are. Never really going out on a limb to try something new, at the risk of it being a flop.

While I have a lot of respect for Miles, I've never really cared for his music. You hear jazz fans all the time saying how "Kind of Blue" is one of the best jazz albums ever made. I honestly don't get it. Sure, it's thoughtful and "cool," but it's also rather dull. The title track, in particular, seems like it's just the same few notes over and over. The only Miles Davis album I like is "Aura." Which was one of his last recordings. I love it because it's unlike any album he ever did. In fact, it's unlike any album you'll probably ever hear! Especially "Yellow." Love that song! :biggrin:

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Everything Else TWC / Re: boycotting the Weather Channel?
« on: July 02, 2009, 10:44:15 AM »
I agree with Martin. I haven't watched TWC for a few years now. They're still there and still making changes I don't agree with. :hmm:

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General Discussion / Re: Google is Ruining Youtube!
« on: June 29, 2009, 10:44:42 AM »
If you're referring to the new profile design, I agree. It's awful. It's mainly ajax (so you can't bookmark or link to things), poorly organized, and doesn't work in IE. I honestly don't see what was wrong with the previous one.

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Local Forecast / Re: Independent Music Removal
« on: June 28, 2009, 02:37:04 PM »
I'm no expert, but I would venture to say that Smooth Jazz is failing because it's gotten so bland. In an attempt to "be all things to all people," they've made all the artists all sound alike. As a result, they've alienated a lot of the their fans (like me) and failed to make enough new ones. People who aren't fans of jazz probably never will be. So why water down the genre in the "hopes" of getting their support?

Some water is good, I guess. If it wasn't for contemporary jazz (the kind jazz critics hate), I would've never been turned on to the genre. Traditional jazz (the kind jazz critics love) is too dull to me. But it's gone too far in the last 10 years. But if they go back to a more melodic approach, instead of the current groove-oriented one, they might get their fans back.

It seems like the same thing happens anytime a group tries to attract more people. TWC is a great example. In an attempt to get more fans, they've dumbed down the forecasts and added watered-down programming. They've also added more rock/rock-influenced music to the local forecast. I assume this has worked, but one has to wonder how many fans they've lost by trying to appeal to everyone.

While I understand why classic rock gets more listeners, I'm personally sick of all the classic rock and 80s/mix type stations. Enough already! Try something new for crying out loud! :club:

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Local Forecast / Re: Independent Music Removal
« on: June 17, 2009, 01:15:20 PM »
The first person said they were going to go with (most likely) production music. The second one said they are still keeping the Jazz music. Someone is lying.
If I'm "the first person," I'm not lying. I never said they definitely would go with production music. I just said that it was an option they were considering. Of course, that was years ago (like I said).

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Conan is the best, no contest. I guess I'm biased, though, since he has my sense of humor. Jimmy Fallon is the opposite of my humor, so I can't stand him. But I think he's a decent host, especially for being new. I've never really seen Craig or Jimmy Kimmell as funny. Jay was reasonably funny, but kind of a dofus. David Letterman is by far the worst. He was great in his hayday, but now he's a bitter, washed-out has-been. That's my opinion, anyway.

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Local Forecast / Re: Independent Music Removal
« on: June 08, 2009, 10:35:10 AM »
This is a little weird. Steve Hurst told me something like this would happen years ago. Well, he didn't say it "would" happen, just that it was an option they were considering. He told me that it's become rather expensive to play commercial music because of outrageous royalty fees (most of which, I'm sure the record companies give to the artists [haha - yah right]). Back in the day, most independent artists were happy to have their music on the air for free (to get exposure). This is not the case anymore. So while I agree that this is a decision that will piss a lot of people off, I can understand why they're doing it. But look on the bright side, maybe they'll play Network Music again? Or Trammell?

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TWC Today News / Re: TWCT Going Strong!
« on: June 04, 2009, 10:46:59 AM »
It's broken? Has the problem worsened from what it was?  :blink: :unsure:
Not entirely broken. There were just a lot of links and features that didn't work.

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TWC Today News / Re: TWCT Going Strong!
« on: June 01, 2009, 11:58:47 AM »
Congrats, guys! Not sure how you managed three times the visitors I had last month with a broken site, but  :biggrin:!

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General Discussion / Re: The Era Of "Bing" Coming Soon?
« on: May 29, 2009, 03:29:33 PM »
Sounds pretty cool. I doubt I'll use it, but it's definitely a good idea for those who prefer to let other people make their decisions. :rolleyes:

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Local Forecast / Re: Official June 2009 Playlist!
« on: May 28, 2009, 10:37:24 AM »
David Helping? Wow, that's an odd selection for them to make. And "Celestial Soda Pop!?" Wow!! That hasn't been on TWC in over 20 years! :o

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Programming and Graphics / Re: Wake Up With Al
« on: May 24, 2009, 12:58:04 PM »
If you read Frank Batton's book, you might recall that NBC was interested in purchasing TWC in the mid 80s. TWC, however, wisely turned them down b/c they didn't agree with NBC's ideas for the channel. Now here we are with NBC having complete control over TWC. I don't have any proof, but I really believe that changes like this will continue. NBC "laid off" a bunch of people, so they could hire their own. And as for future programming changes, watch MSNBC to get an idea. I imagine that's where TWC is headed. "Personality" driven shows and long-form programming that has nothing to do with weather.

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Local Forecast / Re: OMG!!!
« on: May 23, 2009, 03:39:35 PM »
I know the song in the first one is Foundwind by Shadowfax, but does anyone know the second one? Sounds like Artie Traum...
That's "In The Shadow Of The Past" by Steve Smith.

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Local Forecast / Re: Wayman Tisdale dead at 44!
« on: May 15, 2009, 03:27:59 PM »
Wow, that's surprising! :o

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Programming and Graphics / Re: Wx Proof- New TWC Show
« on: May 15, 2009, 03:26:46 PM »
This sounds like a spin-off to ICHT. :thumbdown:
Yah, why have two shows about thing same thing on the same network? :unsure:

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