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General Discussion / Re: Bill Gates to Stop Hurricanes?
« on: July 21, 2009, 10:33:39 AM »
Laughable at best.

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General Discussion / Re: Music Artists that you Loathe / Hate
« on: July 14, 2009, 03:28:17 PM »
There's too many for me to name, but pretty much anyone that "everyone" loves. Any artist that critics wet their pants over. As an example, "everyone" seems to love Jack Johnson. And critics seem to love him too. I honestly don't get it. He is, without question, the dullest artist I've ever heard! Then again, I can't stand alternative and modern folk rock in general. Anyway, using WeatherSTAR's list, here's the ones I dislike (the rest I've never heard of and I don't hear the Jonas Brothers enough to be annoyed).

Plain White Ts (wusses)
Nickelback (hard rock wannabes)
Katy Perry (about as fake as you can get)
Snow Patrol (boring and whiny)

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Local Forecast / Re: Jazz is Gone
« on: July 13, 2009, 10:21:41 AM »
When looking through iTunes, that reminded me of something. Doesn't this mean during Christmas time, they wont have the christmas music like Linus & Lucy, Skating, and such?
Probably not. It'll probably like your local Christmas music station (if you have one). So that would mean The Carpenters, Air Supply, Hall & Oates, and John Lennon. :thrilled: :yawn:

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I still don't see the benefit of using Chrome over Mozilla. And now they're working on an OS? :pinch:

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Local Forecast / Re: Jazz is Gone
« on: July 09, 2009, 10:50:49 AM »
XM Watercolors just plays the bland type of jazz where I really could consider it elevator music, not TWC though.
Agreed. I have XM in my car and I rarely hear a song I know on that station. Once in a great while, I'll hear a "new" one I like, but I usually can't find out the artist (they don't answer fan email). XM plays what I've referred to as "safe" music. It isn't likely to offend too many people. But it also isn't likely to gain a lot of fans, except those who use it to fall asleep. :noexpression:

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Local Forecast / Re: Jazz is Gone
« on: July 09, 2009, 10:47:06 AM »
TWC is now owned by NBC, a member of what I call "the media elite" who serve as "gatekeepers " who dictate the culture and popular trends here in America.
Agreed. Though I'm more specific about NBC and refer to them as liberal. :smoke2: I don't blame NBC for turning TWC liberal (though they certainly haven't done anything to stop it). As you know, global warming climate change bad weather was an issue TWC talked about long before the purchase. But while going political wasn't their brightest move when they were owned by Landmark, I highly doubt they would've paid tribute to Michael Jackson. :thumbdown:

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Local Forecast / Re: Jazz is Gone
« on: July 08, 2009, 10:23:33 AM »
I hope you guys understand that they will not fire someone just over music preferences.
I hope you understand if we think you have no idea what you're talking about. :whistling: And we don't want to get him fired, we just want jazz back on the playlist full time. Guess you missed that part in our posts. :thinking:

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Local Forecast / Re: TWC playing Michael Jackson music
« on: July 07, 2009, 03:30:48 PM »
Good Lord, will this MJ nonsense ever end!? :thumbdown:

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Local Forecast / Re: A Different Side of the TWC LF Music Equation
« on: July 06, 2009, 10:55:31 AM »
I'd say it's his fault for not setting the terms before it being played. He may be SOL.
What are you, a lawyer for TWC? Did you read his contract or something? :hammer:

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Local Forecast / Re: A Different Side of the TWC LF Music Equation
« on: July 05, 2009, 06:50:47 PM »
It's not the first time that's happened. I know of at least two other times where an artist's music was played, but they didn't get paid.

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Local Forecast / Re: Jazz is Gone
« on: July 05, 2009, 03:47:32 PM »
You can listen to your rock on B101 or on the countless other rock stations, TWC doesn't need to be the hundredth "station" to host it.
Exactly! The reason why I liked hearing jazz and newage on TWC so much was because it was a way for me to discover new music. Any jazz station we've had in town over the years hasn't lasted more than a year or two. And they only played "safe" jazz. TWC, however, was always willing to take a risk by playing music with blaring saxes, goofy sound effects and/or odd melodies. If it wasn't for TWC, I never would've given bluegrass music a chance. And I never would've known what Zydeco was.

Now they're becoming a classic rock station. Boring! And if anything, they're doing a tremendous disservice to those who love jazz, but don't have a station in town. I'd be amazed if there were many viewers that didn't have access to at least one classic rock station in town.

But I haven't watched TWC in years, so sharing my opinion with what's-his-face would be pointless. However, for those who do watch...I encourage you to email TWC your opinions. Make sure, of course, that your opinions are respectful. He probably won't change his mind if you call him a butthead. Unless this guy is like our president, your comments can make a difference.

BTW, Jesse - if you don't like our comments here, you don't have to reply. :P

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Local Forecast / Re: July 2009 Official Playlist
« on: July 04, 2009, 03:50:21 PM »
I'm confused. I thought there was going to be no more jazz? Yet the playlist has quite a bit of jazz (and newage)? :thinking:

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Local Forecast / Re: Jazz is Gone
« on: July 04, 2009, 03:39:46 PM »
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The drippy smooth jazz that for years has played in the background of the Atlanta-based Weather Channel’s “Local On the 8s” segments has been replaced with soft rock songs people can actually hum instead of going numb.
Have they ever actually listened to the music? You can hum most of it. And they think people won't go "numb" listening to soft rock? :wacko: Maybe I'm missing something here, but I think most find soft rock more sleepy than jazz.

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“I think we’ve been doing an injustice to our viewers playing, for the lack of a better word, elevator music on the segments for all these years,” Geoffrey Darby, the cable network’s new executive vice president of programming, said Thursday.
Translation - he hates jazz and wants to play the music he likes. I don't blame you Jeffy, but don't kid youself by saying that you're doing this for "ratings."

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...which wasn’t great for the audience or the network’s advertisers who prefer viewers who are awake.
Unless they interviewed people that were drunk, I doubt any viewers actually fell asleep when the local forecast came on. :rolleyes:

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eighty percent approval rating
By who? His friends?

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I can’t believe I just heard Devo on the Weather Channel — that is so cool.
Devo was played in the summer of 1990 too...and they quickly dropped it.

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Local Forecast / Re: Independent Music Removal
« on: July 02, 2009, 12:10:11 PM »
Jazz Nazi. Haha. Love it! :happy:

You're right, Jeanne. Jazz critics and traditional jazz fans are so narrow-minded when it comes to what jazz music is. What I find interesting is that they all say the same thing. It's like they're reading from the "Non-Traditional Jazz Hater's Guide Book." Take a look at a typical "review" by allmusic.com critic Scott Yanow.

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Altoist Eric Marienthal (who is also heard on tenor, soprano and baritone) plays well throughout One Touch but he is the only reason to acquire this disc. The backup, which includes keyboardist-producer Jeff Lorber, a few vocalists and guest appearances from pianist David Benoit and bassist John Patitucci, is mostly pretty anonymous. The originals are forgettable and usually fade out when the music gets too heated. With all of the selections clocking in between three-and-a-half and almost five minutes, potential radio airplay was obviously the main purpose behind the music, which is consistently commercial, accessible, mildly soulful and very predictable. At best, One Touch succeeds as background music but a close listen will frustrate listeners who know that Eric Marienthal is capable of much more.

According to Mr. Yanow, the backup musicians are bad because they stay "anonymous." Um, isn't that what backup musicians are suppose to do? I love his quote about how "potential radio airplay was obviously the main purpose behind the music." That comment is typical in his reviews. Apparently, Eric is an artist that wants to make money and get fans by having his music played on radio. Who does he think he is!? Seriously, what artist doesn't want airplay, fans, and a steady paycheck? :blink:

And what exactly is "a close listen?" You're either listening to the music or you're not. And fans will be frustrated because "Eric Marienthal is capable of much more." Really? Funny, anytime I've listened to (oh, excuse me..."closely" listened to) a song by an artist I liked, I either liked the song or I didn't. I've never been "frustrated" thinking they were "capable of much more." Sounds like something you'd say to your kid.

As for the originals being "forgettable." I agree somewhat. There are some duds on that album. But most albums are like that. But there are some songs that are memorable. Most of Yanow's reviews are like this. However, if you go to his website, he says that he "loves all eras of jazz and blues." Really!? You have a funny way of showing it. Look, I don't expect a critic to like all forms of music, but why in the world would you review a genre (or sub-genre) that you clearly loathe?

Not only does it make you look like a douche, but it's useless to those who do like it. I'd say about 90% of the jazz albums I like have scathing reviews. And they pretty much all say the same thing. "Predictable background music," "anonymous backup musicians," "clearly written for commercial airplay." Gee, thanks Mr. Critic. You've been really helpful. Now I know what to buy  and what to pass up. :yawn:

In addition to jazz being a business like any other genre, "jazz nazi's" don't seem to realize that jazz is a melding of genres. It's rock, it's R&B, it's blues, it's pop. Combined in various forms, improvised, and jazzed-up. That's why I have a tremendous amount of respect for Miles Davis. He understood both. He never stayed with any style for too long. He was always evolving and willing to try new things. Sadly, few artists have that mindset. They're comfortable staying where they are. Never really going out on a limb to try something new, at the risk of it being a flop.

While I have a lot of respect for Miles, I've never really cared for his music. You hear jazz fans all the time saying how "Kind of Blue" is one of the best jazz albums ever made. I honestly don't get it. Sure, it's thoughtful and "cool," but it's also rather dull. The title track, in particular, seems like it's just the same few notes over and over. The only Miles Davis album I like is "Aura." Which was one of his last recordings. I love it because it's unlike any album he ever did. In fact, it's unlike any album you'll probably ever hear! Especially "Yellow." Love that song! :biggrin:

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Everything Else TWC / Re: boycotting the Weather Channel?
« on: July 02, 2009, 10:44:15 AM »
I agree with Martin. I haven't watched TWC for a few years now. They're still there and still making changes I don't agree with. :hmm:

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