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General Discussion / Re: House Budget Proposal Could Devastate the NWS’s Watch/Warning Forecasts
« on: February 18, 2011, 02:30:46 AM »
Sorry for the double post (I looked for the thread in the wrong place....it's what happens when you don't frequent the site). Anyways, I am going to state that as a former intern at the NWS, all the private agencies need the services NWS provides.
Why do I say that? Here's why.
-Imagine if you had to pay for weather content. And believe me, if you've ever used AccuWeather's site, you know why. Imagine if it cost $2 every time you wanted to see a radar. $3 every time you wanted the 7-day forecast. And you wouldn't get a warning unless you signed up for the "Premium Plan" for $19.95 a month plus tax. As asinine as it sounds, it has been tried before.
-Not all stations have their own radar. I'm willing to bet 75% of TV stations use NWS radar. And, if they want a radar for wide angles, they don't have competing affiliates in competing companies' radars - they use NWS.
-The sounding reductions may be the biggest blow to them all. If any of you have used Skew-T's to forecast (and if you are in the weather weenie field, you WILL use them, guaranteed ) the only way we can judge how accurate they are is by actual soundings. The soundings are taken twice daily, just like models. (And I know about the RUC and the 06/18z runs, but that is a new thing).
And I'll let you in on another secret. On severe weather days, we at the NWS had additional soundings per the SPC's request. Their severe weather forecasts, on which millions of lives depend on, need those additional soundings. You can't get a feeling for the "loaded gun" scenario unless you have a radiosonde in the air.
-Privately funding weather forecasting is the biggest mistake of them all (and I'm surprised that anyone would say that). Essentially, if you say "OK, the satellites, the radars, the obs grids, let's privatize them". Who do you think has $350 million to buy the satellite? $20 million to buy the obs grid? $5 billion to buy the radar network? Surely not anyone on here. Joel Myers and AccuWeather couldn't wait to get their paws on that. And if you're an independent/consulting forecaster, your information - all of it - could come from a "AccuWeather Professional" site, for which they could charge you whatever they wanted to get money from you - because you wouldn't have any data, and you'd be slave to their charges for $30/month "basic" packages, or whatever.
Be very scared. Be very, very scared if they go through with this. You don't know if that tornado warning may be there when it's three miles from your house.
Why do I say that? Here's why.
-Imagine if you had to pay for weather content. And believe me, if you've ever used AccuWeather's site, you know why. Imagine if it cost $2 every time you wanted to see a radar. $3 every time you wanted the 7-day forecast. And you wouldn't get a warning unless you signed up for the "Premium Plan" for $19.95 a month plus tax. As asinine as it sounds, it has been tried before.
-Not all stations have their own radar. I'm willing to bet 75% of TV stations use NWS radar. And, if they want a radar for wide angles, they don't have competing affiliates in competing companies' radars - they use NWS.
-The sounding reductions may be the biggest blow to them all. If any of you have used Skew-T's to forecast (and if you are in the weather weenie field, you WILL use them, guaranteed ) the only way we can judge how accurate they are is by actual soundings. The soundings are taken twice daily, just like models. (And I know about the RUC and the 06/18z runs, but that is a new thing).
And I'll let you in on another secret. On severe weather days, we at the NWS had additional soundings per the SPC's request. Their severe weather forecasts, on which millions of lives depend on, need those additional soundings. You can't get a feeling for the "loaded gun" scenario unless you have a radiosonde in the air.
-Privately funding weather forecasting is the biggest mistake of them all (and I'm surprised that anyone would say that). Essentially, if you say "OK, the satellites, the radars, the obs grids, let's privatize them". Who do you think has $350 million to buy the satellite? $20 million to buy the obs grid? $5 billion to buy the radar network? Surely not anyone on here. Joel Myers and AccuWeather couldn't wait to get their paws on that. And if you're an independent/consulting forecaster, your information - all of it - could come from a "AccuWeather Professional" site, for which they could charge you whatever they wanted to get money from you - because you wouldn't have any data, and you'd be slave to their charges for $30/month "basic" packages, or whatever.
Be very scared. Be very, very scared if they go through with this. You don't know if that tornado warning may be there when it's three miles from your house.