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Local Forecast / Re: Question about songs airing on multiple flavors in the 1990s

« on: July 06, 2024, 05:18:20 PM »

There's something else I've noticed, consistently, "Outside Solaris" by "Clifford Marshall Van Buren" played as an M flavor, but consistently used the L flavor narration, do you know what happened? Did it eventually play as an L with the L narration, was the narration eventually corrected for the M or did it keep playing as an M with L narration? And do you know how that song worked on the 3000 with its narration?

My guess is that the song was initially selected as a L, but they changed it to a M at the last minute. I'm not sure how the narration worked back then. Whether it was recorded on to the song or added every time the song aired. Either way, when they changed it from a L to a M, they didn't bother to change the narration.

I've heard that the narration was hard wired into the LF music. But I think you're right, it was originally selected as an L, then changed to an M, and they didn't bother to edit the song clip to have the proper narration. I wonder if this confused people watching at the time who weren't avid STAR fans and wondered why the narration had nothing to do with what products were shown on the screen.

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Local Forecast / Re: Question about songs airing on multiple flavors in the 1990s

« on: June 28, 2024, 09:44:51 PM »

I found an old post where you got excited when "Seguaro" played as a BTF song during a J flavor in 1993 due to an error since you never heard it past the :53 mark before. For a lot of people, that was a blast from the past, previously regularly playing on J flavor LFs in 1990 and 1991.

Yah, I was surprised to discover that "Seguaro" was played before I started watching.

There's something else I've noticed, consistently, "Outside Solaris" by "Clifford Marshall Van Buren" played as an M flavor, but consistently used the L flavor narration, do you know what happened? Did it eventually play as an L with the L narration, was the narration eventually corrected for the M or did it keep playing as an M with L narration? And do you know how that song worked on the 3000 with its narration?

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Local Forecast / Re: Question about songs airing on multiple flavors in the 1990s

« on: June 23, 2024, 05:07:19 PM »

The songs were randomly played by a computer. That's how they cued so fast. Why BTF songs played at times, I don't know. You'd have to ask someone that worked there in Master Control, but it's an "error" I saw all the time back then. In fact, there were times I looked forward to it because sometimes they'd play the BTF song longer than 53 seconds.

Here's an example from 1992 from my site:

https://twcclassics.com/watch.php?file=coconut-roads

I found an old post where you got excited when "Seguaro" played as a BTF song during a J flavor in 1993 due to an error since you never heard it past the :53 mark before. For a lot of people, that was a blast from the past, previously regularly playing on J flavor LFs in 1990 and 1991.

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Local Forecast / Re: Question about songs airing on multiple flavors in the 1990s

« on: June 14, 2024, 09:59:03 PM »

Trust me, BTF songs were always played when the regular playlist failed to play. I've witnessed this dozens of times. And yes, it was a technical error. All songs were played at random by a computer, not a person. I don't know how it worked beyond that.

And yes, "Recollections" was used as a L flavor too. I actually have a recording of it in my update queue. And yes, "Morning In Martinique" was also an "E." I'm sure I could find an example of that.

I wonder how a BTF song was cued so fast. And I wonder what made Chazz think Morning In Martinique was played as an L with narration and an M and J without narration. Also, that song started from the beginning in the unusual M flavor airing, but it used a different time-in when played on the BTF. Also, have you ever run across this happening before? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QnKfzmgmKY

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Local Forecast / Re: Question about songs airing on multiple flavors in the 1990s

« on: June 07, 2024, 09:14:42 PM »

No, it was not used as a M, J, or L. At least not officially. It might have played during those flavors when the music computer or whatever failed to play a valid song. A good rule of thumb when you find videos like this is that if there's no narration, it's probably just a BTF song playing.

How does that happen? So TWC just grabbed a BTF song if the music programmer didn't play a valid song? That seems unlikely as the song started right when the LF did, so TWC wouldn't have had time to know they needed a  song that wasn't usually used as that flavor. Maybe it played as an L and J flavor due to a technical difficulty? When it played as a BTF, it didn't start from the beginning, whereas it did in the video Chazz posted way back in 2007. I also read comments that suggest this song played as an M flavor before a 30 second commercial that would be blocked out in some areas, so that explains it playing as an M without narration, but that doesn't explain why Chazz thought it played as an L and a J flavor. The description suggests he thought it played as an L with narration. Another song I wonder about is "Recollection" by "Gary Brunotte", it's listed on your website as playing as an L flavor besides H, but there's only a video of it playing as an H, did it for real play as an L? And did "Morning In Martinique" for real play as an E?

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Local Forecast / Question about songs airing on multiple flavors in the 1990s

« on: June 07, 2024, 03:24:58 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3XESmWjm3c
In this video, "Morning In Martinique" by "EKO" is airing as an M flavor, but on the twcclassics playlist for February 1994, it's only listed as airing during the E and K flavors, as well as BTF (there is a video of it airing during that with a later cut), but all other LF videos only have it airing on K, furthermore, theweatherchazz's (RIP) video description claims it also aired as an L and J (the latter without narration like the M). My question is, I believe it being used for E since it's listed on the playlist, and it obviously aired as an M, and videos confirm it aired as a K, but did it really also air as an L and J or did theweatherchazz have a false memory? And did it start from the beginning on all those flavors, or did at least one have a later cut like the BTF?

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Announcements / Re: Status on the WeatherSTAR III Project (September 3, 2018)

« on: April 30, 2024, 05:16:47 PM »

Is this still a work in progress? The WeatherStar 4000 Simulator is mostly down for the foreseeable future so I was hoping the III Simulator was still being worked on.

It's been a week since I asked and there's no answer, so I'll ask again, is this still a work in progress? The WeatherStar 4000 Simulator is mostly down for the foreseeable future so I was hoping the III Simulator was still being worked on. If this is no longer being worked on, please just say so.

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Local Forecast / Re: Local Forecast video clips that were on the old TWC Today website

« on: April 30, 2024, 07:15:48 AM »

Does anybody here have access to the local forecast video clips that were on the old TWC Today website until the non-forum website was closed in 2020? Local Weather Drewbie on YouTube had uploaded them there, but he recently closed his account so I was hoping somebody somewhere had them stored up on their computer so they wouldn't be lost forever.

Is anybody of any help here? I really hope these videos aren't lost forever.

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Announcements / Re: Status on the WeatherSTAR III Project (September 3, 2018)

« on: April 23, 2024, 09:45:03 PM »

Is this still a work in progress? The WeatherStar 4000 Simulator is mostly down for the foreseeable future so I was hoping the III Simulator was still being worked on.

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Local Forecast / Local Forecast video clips that were on the old TWC Today website

« on: April 15, 2024, 09:53:58 PM »

Does anybody here have access to the local forecast video clips that were on the old TWC Today website until the non-forum website was closed in 2020? Local Weather Drewbie on YouTube had uploaded them there, but he recently closed his account so I was hoping somebody somewhere had them stored up on their computer so they wouldn't be lost forever.

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Local Forecast / Re: Old TWC songs sampled

« on: March 25, 2024, 10:15:47 PM »

In addition to the sampling of "Morning Awakes" by "Dover", I just now found out that "Smooth Sailing" (aka "All That Jazz" by "Trammell Starks" was sampled by somebody going by "PZA" on an album called "Pizza Party" and it's titled "Cloud". https://pza420.bandcamp.com/track/cloud
Plus, I think another song on that same album, this one called "1027" sampled another classic Trammell Starks song. I wonder what's going on with these people sampling classic TWC songs and making them their own songs, especially one that supposedly had its masters lost forever.

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Local Forecast / Re: Updated List of All CC Gilmore & Samuel Lincoln tunes used on TWC

« on: December 30, 2023, 08:33:34 PM »

Here is the list of All known CC Gilmore/Samuel Lincoln tunes
All CC Gilmore tunes

Blue Text = I have those songs

TWC title  - CD (or alternate) Title - CD (if applicable) - year used on TWC ( all songs available on itunes unless otherwise noted)

• IN The Spring - n/a . n/a - 2004*
• in The sun - n/a - n/a - 2004*
• Just Right - n/a - n/a - 2004*
• Truckin - Not sure - not sure - 2006
• Right On Top - n/a - n/a - 2004*
• Down To It - Down With That? - Street Smarts? - 2004*
• With You -Green Light Groove (from bigscoremusic.com) -n/a - 2004
• Afternoon IN The Park - n/a - n/a - 2004*
• The Passage - Waterfall Pina Colada and You (manpower music site title) - n/a - 2004
• The Right Path - Sea Cruise - Millenium-2004
• Make Or Break - turn around - make or break - 2005
• New York Minute - In An Instant - make or break - 2005
• On A roll - All for You - make or break - 2005
• The Good Life - Fusion A La Funk (from bigscoremusic.com)- n/a - 2005
• The Great Beyond - In The Moment- Make Or Break - 2005
• Make It Real - Keep It Real - Street smarts - 2006
• Down With That - Truckin' - Street smarts - 2006
• Unknown TWC Title - Park place - street smarts - 2006
• To The Sky - infinity - street smarts - 2006
• Bright Lights - Swing shift - street smarts - 2006 and 2007
• Back Home Again - Travel tune - street smarts - 2006 and 2007
• Sierra Vista - Sierra (from munchkinstudios.com) - n/a - 2006
• Third time's a charm - tres ami - street smarts - 2008
• blueberry mountain - canyon country - millenium - 2007
• a bright future - millenium - millenium - 2007
• Twenty Three Skidoo - She Had it all (manpower music) - n/a - 2007
• make it happen - lucky star - millenium- 2008
• Bright sky - sun dance  - reflections - 2008
• Groovity - Groove for Al - only the truth - 2008
• Del Fuego - Latin Lover - only the truth - 2008
• once again - (forgot the cd title) - only truth - 2008
• Next Time - Take A Chance - Millenium - 2008
• One And Only - not sure - from bigscormusic - 2008
• Night Wave - (forgot CD title) - millenium - 2009
• Bubblegum - not sure - from bigscoremusic.com - 2009
• Up The Road - not sure - from bigscoremusic.com - 2009
• Cuban Coffee - Cafe Cubano - from bigscoremusic.com - 2009
• Deserted - Animal Parade? or something or other - from bigscoremusic.com - 2009
• Open Highway - Upward Mobility - 2010
• Early Evening - Lazy Afternoon - Millenium - 2010
• In Square Circle -  Circles-  Forever Always - 2010
• Handle On You - You Bet - Forever Always - 2010
• Steppin In - Steppin Out - Enchanted Evening - 2011
• Atmospheres - Hemispheres - Enchanted Evening - 2011
• Rainy Day - Funk Rain - n.a - 2012
  

All The Samuel Lincoln tunes ( song available on itunes or amazon unless otherwise noted)

• Wall - Hide and Seek - millenium - 2004
• Sun Spot - All Of You - reflections - 2004
• On The Road - n/a - not sure ( I have the song...not sure which one) - 2004
• In The Pocket - (not sure) - (not sure) - 2004
• Into You Soul - In the Mouth of the Lion (manpower music) - n/a- 2004
• Cocoon  - Just Playin With You (manpower music) - n/a -2004
• Under The Stars - What I Owe (manpower music) - n/a - 2004
• Northern Lights - Arrow To My Heart (manpower music ) - n/a - 2004
• Park Place - Walk To Me Like That (manpower music) - n/a -2004
• Second Look - Chance Encounter (gmpmusic.com) - n/a - 2004
• Enchanted City - Night In the city (gmpmusic.com) - n/a - 2004
• Way Back When - River Boat (gmpmusic.com) - n/a - 2005
• Her Smile - A World Away (gmpmusic.com) - n/a - 2005
• I Want You Back - On The Move - On The Move - 2005
• Twilight Blue - Break Of Day - On The Move - 2005
• Soon Enough - Soon Enough - On The Move - 2005
• More Than We Know - I Want To Know - On the Move - 2005
• Was It You? - You And Me - On the Move - 2005
• What I Need - More than Ever - On The Move - 2005
• Everything to Me - The One - On The Move - 2005
• More than Ever - More Than Ever - On The Move - 2005
• Needing You - I Want To Know- On The Move - 2005
• Now Is The Time - Now Is The Time - On The Move - 2005
• Night Watch - not sure (found it on manpowermusic though) - n/a - 2006
• Malibu Sunset - Waves Of Sound (from premiertracks.com)- n/a  - 2006
• Waves Of Color - Rays Of Light (from premiertracks.com)- n/a - 2006 and 2007
• Rosie - Rollie (from premiertracks.com)- n/a - 2007
• Above the Horizon- Still feels right (manpower music) - n/a - 2007
• Tempest Wind - Drivin West On Sunset (manpower music) n/a - 2007
• The Dancer - Night Rider - millenium - 2007 (also used in 2004 from a recent youtube video)
• Catamaran - Enchanted Island - On The Move - 2010

*= trying to track them down

Thats All The Updated CC Gilmore and Sam Lincoln tunes, AFAIK used on TWC

Afternoon In The Park, which was played in April 2004, is Lazy Afternoon by Incognito, which played again in June/July 2010 under the title Early Evening. Also, Enchanted Island by Soul Cafe/Catamaran by Samuel Lincoln sounds like something that should have played in 2005.

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Local Forecast / Re: TWC Local Forecast Revamp?

« on: December 27, 2023, 06:22:20 PM »

One can only hope. They've never stayed the same more than 4-5 years. Now its been EIGHT!?!

Not only that, but the longest icons (from an on-air standpoint, not factoring in some cable systems kept STARs using previous icons until as late as 2014) stayed the same before was just short of 9 years, from January 1998-December 2006, but now, the current icon set is over 10 years old. Do you think there'd be any chance TWC would have a relaunch or do you think they'd go off the air before that would happen? And would Local on the 8s ever get a facelift or would it be more likely to be discontinued altogether? The only change since the WATT launch in November 2013 was the font and LDL change in August 2019.

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TWC Fan Art / Re: pjfrix's (TWC) Fan Art

« on: November 24, 2023, 10:33:17 PM »

Where did you get that background? That looks like a background from TWC's Weather Star XL Release Notes from way back in the day, a prototype version of the September 2001-August 2005 background, but how did you get it with no overlays?

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Local Forecast / "Cold Front" by "Rob Weiss" - played in August and September 2005

« on: November 01, 2023, 10:27:20 AM »

https://twcclassics.com/watch.php?file=cold-front  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqL_UnA2EQc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnn5-wrAxPU
I don't think the song in those videos is commercially available, because a full length version is nowhere to be found, but it played on TWC in both August and September 2005, both in the overnight, but when this website had playlists, there was a song called "Cold Front" by "Rob Weiss" listed in the August and September 2005 playlists, but the audio clip was a totally different song. By luck, I have the audio clip here to show you what I mean. Is that song another one called "Cold Front" by another "Rob Weiss", does the song have 2 totally different interludes and the wrong one was listed on this website years ago, or is it just erroneously titled "Cold Front" by "Rob Weiss"? I'd be interested in knowing the name of the song in the file I attached, it's pretty catchy, even if it didn't air on TWC.