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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => OCMs & Personalities => Topic started by: TWCJUNKIE on October 30, 2012, 03:17:16 PM
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I Don't understand getting rid of all these fabulous meteorologists but yet keeping Al just because he's connected with NBC, does anyone care for him being on TWC , Personally that's when the weather channel went downhill :nono:
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Personally, I'm indifferent on the subject. I like the show in its present format now that Steph and Al are in the same studio.
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Al Roker is the most widely recognized tv weather personality in the globe. It's commonsense for The Weather Channel to have a show with him now that NBC is a majority owner. I'm sorry you feel that way but the horse as been beaten to death. Lets move on
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In case you haven't noticed, TWC is not the only channel going away from its "original purpose".. things change over time such as the addition of reality shows to TWC and Al Roker, but stuff like this is happening on other channels as well and not just TWC. MSNBC, for example, doesn't air news on the weekends except for in the morning hours. Same with History, Discovery, etc.. reality TV has been taking over television since it's suiting to society these days, in which society may find all news and all weather boring. These are measures by the networks to ensure that they still earn money since these networks are NOT non-profit organizations.
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People on TV giving the weather do not have to be meteorologists. There was a time most people on TV didn't have any kind of Meteorology degree. TWC was actually an exception to the rule, but being able to present well is more important than having a degree when you're on camera. Like Martin said, it's time to move on from this matter as it's been beaten to death a long time ago.
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In case you haven't noticed, TWC is not the only channel going away from its "original purpose".. things change over time such as the addition of reality shows to TWC and Al Roker, but stuff like this is happening on other channels as well and not just TWC. MSNBC, for example, doesn't air news on the weekends except for in the morning hours. Same with History, Discovery, etc.. reality TV has been taking over television since it's suiting to society these days, in which society may find all news and all weather boring. These are measures by the networks to ensure that they still earn money since these networks are NOT non-profit organizations.
MSNBC has actually been airing news on weekends until 5pm the last few weeks.
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I Don't understand getting rid of all these fabulous meteorologists but yet keeping Al just because he's connected with NBC, does anyone care for him being on TWC , Personally that's when the weather channel went downhill :nono:
I'm still wondering why everyone has hatred towards Al, i don't think that him being with NBC had anything to do with him appearing on TWC.
Also as said many times on this forum TWC is trying to expand their horizons into becoming more than the old channel most people used to be accustomed to. So the best thing is to move on from all the positives/negatives changes the network is done and worry about something else worth enjoying.
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I Don't understand getting rid of all these fabulous meteorologists but yet keeping Al just because he's connected with NBC, does anyone care for him being on TWC , Personally that's when the weather channel went downhill :nono:
I don't get the hate everyone has towards Al, i think that him being with NBC had anything to do with him appearing on TWC.
Also as said many times on this forum TWC is trying to expand their horizons into becoming more than the old channel most people used to be accustomed to. So the best thing is to move on from all the positives/negatives changes the network is done and worry about something else worth enjoying.
Hate is a strong word, I don't hate Al Roker, I dislike him though. I didn't like Al well before his WUWA show, he always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason.
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I say NO. In the first place, I really don't like how Stephanie and Al conduct themselves or present the weather, and in the second place too much of WUWA isn't even weather-related. And in the third place Al Roker is and acts much more like an NBC import that was just plopped there for some inscrutable reason instead of someone that belongs on the Weather Channel. Has Roker had his moments? Yes. In fact the Groundhog Day Blizzard wouldn't be the same without his coverage. But most of the time he is a net drag in my view, and it's past time they sent him back to NBC.
TWC has a mission, and that mission is to cover the weather and disseminate weather information. Profit, though important, needs to be subordinated to the mission. If the only mission was to maximize profit, The Weather Channel never would have been created. If you want proof of my assertion that TWC's vision transcends profit, simply look at your computer screen. You should see a big banner saying "TWC Today & TWC Classics". Think about that for a minute - would this website exist and would we be TWC fans if the only mission was to rake in profits? Look at BMW for a guide: they have a mission, and that mission is to produce the ultimate driving machine. Everything is subordinated to that one purpose. If they drifted and tried to chase buyers of lower-end vehicles (who already have better places to go for that sort of vehicle), they wouldn't encounter any additional success, and the quality of the company would be ruined. As it is they provide great cars that their buyers love, and the profit springs from following that mission. See how the logic works? That's just how The Weather Channel operated for many years and should still operate today and into the future.
The question we need to ask here is: Does Al Roker and WUWA help TWC achieve that mission? If the answer is yes, then he needs to stay. If the answer is no, then he should be sent back to NBC, no ifs, ands, or buts.
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No thoughts here on WUWA, but since the show has been on TWC for 3 years, that means it's doing well, and therefore it's there to stay and nothing can be done about it :no: If the show did poorly, it probably wouldn't be on the air anymore today. I am not saying this is either a good thing or a bad thing, I'm just a messenger. That's just how TV business works nowadays :itsok:
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I'm not trying to be rude here, but I'm getting very tired of this. People, please read around on the forum before you start posting. There have been many past incidents about this type of complaining and bashing before and frankly it's just irritating. It's partially what has kept me away from this forum in the past few weeks. Take some time to read past posts before making new ones like this as I'm growing tired of seeing it. We know the state of TWC and have no power to change it, so there is no use in just constantly bringing this stuff up.
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I'm not trying to be rude here, but I'm getting very tired of this. People, please read around on the forum before you start posting. There have been many past incidents about this type of complaining and bashing before and frankly it's just irritating. It's partially what has kept me away from this forum in the past few weeks. Take some time to read past posts before making new ones like this as I'm growing tired of seeing it. We know the state of TWC and have no power to change it, so there is no use in just constantly bringing this stuff up.
I'm in total agreement with you, Donovan. :yes: I just saw this topic now and was planning on locking it, but considering we have had both an admin and moderator post in it and most of the conversation so far is useful, then I guess I'll leave it open for now.
In my mind, separate topics like this to "protest" a show really aren't needed. If you want to talk about WUWA or some other show, we'll likely have another topic for it. And as we've said millions of time, we're going to frown on continued "I HATE NBC/TWC" type posts.
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I'm not trying to be rude here, but I'm getting very tired of this. People, please read around on the forum before you start posting. There have been many past incidents about this type of complaining and bashing before and frankly it's just irritating. It's partially what has kept me away from this forum in the past few weeks. Take some time to read past posts before making new ones like this as I'm growing tired of seeing it. We know the state of TWC and have no power to change it, so there is no use in just constantly bringing this stuff up.
Well said. I'm getting rather tired of posts like these. I don't have enough limbs to count how many times this has been discussed and beaten to death. Besides, I actually like Steph and Al. :yes: WUWA doesn't concern me much, because it's on too early for me to see it live, and I'm already in school during the repeat.
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No thoughts here on WUWA, but since the show has been on TWC for 3 years, that means it's doing well, and therefore it's there to stay and nothing can be done about it :no: If the show did poorly, it probably wouldn't be on the air anymore today. I am not saying this is either a good thing or a bad thing, I'm just a messenger. That's just how TV business works nowadays :itsok:
I don't agree with this. I think Al is an exception to the rule. It's not like WUWA is the only thing to his name on TWC, he's helped produced a lot of the documentaries/reality programming on the network. I think that's enough reason to keep him around also regardless if the show is doing good or not.
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No thoughts here on WUWA, but since the show has been on TWC for 3 years, that means it's doing well, and therefore it's there to stay and nothing can be done about it :no: If the show did poorly, it probably wouldn't be on the air anymore today. I am not saying this is either a good thing or a bad thing, I'm just a messenger. That's just how TV business works nowadays :itsok:
I don't agree with this. I think Al is an exception to the rule. It's not like WUWA is the only thing to his name on TWC, he's helped produced a lot of the documentaries/reality programming on the network. I think that's enough reason to keep him around also regardless if the show is doing good or not.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that :doh: CGA was one of the shows that Al produced. I don't remember what else he did :unsure:
I'm tired of playing the "IT'S ALL NBC'S FAULT!!!" blame game. No matter which program sounds ridiculous in any way, it's TWC's decision to air that show, not NBC's or ours. Simply arguing and/or protesting about it isn't gonna get them to change their minds :no:
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People like to complain about the complainers, but let's face it, there's nothing else to talk about on this forum. Pretty much no one here is interested in what TWC has become, and as a result, these forums now go days without posts compared to, say, four years ago when there was a new post every 5-10 minutes. TWC was interesting back then. There's nothing interesting left on TWC now. We might as well voice our opinions rather than leave the forums dead for days and days.
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People like to complain about the complainers, but let's face it, there's nothing else to talk about on this forum. Pretty much no one here is interested in what TWC has become, and as a result, these forums now go days without posts compared to, say, four years ago when there was a new post every 5-10 minutes. TWC was interesting back then. There's nothing interesting left on TWC now. We might as well voice our opinions rather than leave the forums dead for days and days.
I honestly have to agree with you, Steve. Five years ago, when this forum was started, there were still lots of positive things to talk about TWC, and as a result things were active and vital here, with a generally positive attitude. Now, there's literally nothing positive, at least from the standpoint of the majority of the users, remaining about TWC anymore. I understand the whole idea about not bringing these kinds of issues up constantly, but how can you when there's nothing else to discuss? It's sad that this is what it has come to, but you certainly can't deny it. :no:
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People like to complain about the complainers, but let's face it, there's nothing else to talk about on this forum. Pretty much no one here is interested in what TWC has become, and as a result, these forums now go days without posts compared to, say, four years ago when there was a new post every 5-10 minutes. TWC was interesting back then. There's nothing interesting left on TWC now. We might as well voice our opinions rather than leave the forums dead for days and days.
I honestly have to agree with you, Steve. Five years ago, when this forum was started, there were still lots of positive things to talk about TWC, and as a result things were active and vital here, with a generally positive attitude. Now, there's literally nothing positive, at least from the standpoint of the majority of the users, remaining about TWC anymore. I understand the whole idea about not bringing these kinds of issues up constantly, but how can you when there's nothing else to discuss? It's sad that this is what it has come to, but you certainly can't deny it. :no:
I have to say that I find it very positive that a forum administrator is expressing this opinion. Generally, all I hear is that if you don't have something nice to say about what TWC has become, then don't say anything at all. I honestly don't understand that sentiment, and I never have, but I hear it a lot.
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The reality is that we all feel the same way about TWC, but constantly complaining about it doesn't help anything. I've already been told by several members that they can't stand the complaining and want to focus on more positive things. Playing the blame game with NBC only goes so far as we can't do anything realistically to change it. Thus, we need to appreciate what we were given from the past and what could come in the future even if finding those positive nuggets are rare.
It's actually a reason why I try to focus more on weather and TWC's role in it, because there will always be weather and interesting things to talk about here. Perhaps I should start polling everyone for some new ideas with some relation to TWC that will make everyone more interested and feel positive about this forum. I'll be glad to help if it can make all of us feel a little happier about things here.
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I see what you're saying, Patrick. B)
I wouldn't mind seeing a few changes in focus around here if it spurs a little interest/activity on the boards. That may be the only real option because the whole "no complaining about TWC" philosophy alone is just going to make things worse activity-wise.
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I see what you're saying, Patrick. B)
I wouldn't mind seeing a few changes in focus around here if it spurs a little interest/activity on the boards. That may be the only real option because the whole "no complaining about TWC" philosophy alone is just going to make things worse activity-wise.
I think people just don't want to hear the same complaints rehashed from a couple years ago. Complaints on brand new items or issues would be more tolerable for a little while, but it's already proven socially that people are repelled from negativity and are drawn more to positivity. To address the changes in focus with TWC here, I've opened a new thread, and I would encourage everyone to take a look and give it some thought for suggestions. :yes: