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Title: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Trevor on April 14, 2010, 06:41:29 PM
We have had Traffic Pulse for many years here in Memphis. I think that Memphis needs traffic. :yes:  Does anyone agree?
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2010, 06:45:35 PM
Apparently the agreement between TWC and Traffic Pulse (ultimately NavTeq) is that the traffic information needs to have been available for 3 months in a media market for it to be added on Intellistars in that specific media market. However, according to traffic.com, there is no data generated for Memphis.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Zach on April 14, 2010, 06:48:25 PM
Not TWC's choice.

http://www.traffic.com/ (http://www.traffic.com/)
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 14, 2010, 06:50:32 PM
Tulsa, OK gets traffic? That's surprising.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 14, 2010, 06:53:51 PM
I gotta ask this, why the heck did they bother using traffic.com when it doesn't even cover half of the country? :dunno: I think it's odd that Salt Lake City gets traffic, but not Memphis or nowhere in MS does... :huh: :blink: 
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Zach on April 14, 2010, 06:55:06 PM
I gotta ask this, why the heck did they bother using traffic.com when it doesn't even cover half of the country? :dunno: I think it's odd that Salt Lake City gets traffic, but not Memphis or nowhere in MS does... :huh: :blink:
Yet there's traffic in Naples, FL? That was a waste too. <_<
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 14, 2010, 07:01:30 PM
I gotta ask this, why the heck did they bother using traffic.com when it doesn't even cover half of the country? :dunno: I think it's odd that Salt Lake City gets traffic, but not Memphis or nowhere in MS does... :huh: :blink:
Yet there's traffic in Naples, FL? That was a waste too. <_<
I thought it was from trafficpulses's site.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Zach on April 14, 2010, 07:05:24 PM
I gotta ask this, why the heck did they bother using traffic.com when it doesn't even cover half of the country? :dunno: I think it's odd that Salt Lake City gets traffic, but not Memphis or nowhere in MS does... :huh: :blink:
Yet there's traffic in Naples, FL? That was a waste too. <_<
I thought it was from trafficpulses's site.
TrafficPulse is a product of traffic.com
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: TWCToday on April 14, 2010, 07:07:41 PM
TrafficPulse simply pulls all the traffic data from local sources. Because your city or location is not served by them is not their fault. TWC uses them because it would be stupid if not impossible to try and get data from every state/city locale that has data. Traffic data is run by local governments. It is up to that state to spend money on senors and infrastructure for major roadways and interstates.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2010, 10:21:13 PM
You can no longer go by the map or data availability on traffic.com. TrafficPulse now uses historical traffic data for many areas, including in markets where TrafficPulse has been available for years. TWC, as with most media outlets, does not use this historical data.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 14, 2010, 10:46:37 PM
Not TWC's choice.

[url]http://www.traffic.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.traffic.com/[/url])


Even if it was just Flow and Incidents Memphis should be able to get some data?
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2010, 10:49:04 PM
Not TWC's choice.

[url]http://www.traffic.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.traffic.com/[/url])


Even if it was just Flow and Incidents Memphis should be able to get some data?

Not if Memphis uses historical data as I mentioned, which I suspect.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Mike M on April 14, 2010, 10:53:34 PM
You can no longer go by the map or data availability on traffic.com. TrafficPulse now uses historical traffic data for many areas, including in markets where TrafficPulse has been available for years. TWC, as with most media outlets, does not use this historical data.
Is this also why the traffic maps have been disabled everywhere?
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2010, 10:59:09 PM
You can no longer go by the map or data availability on traffic.com. TrafficPulse now uses historical traffic data for many areas, including in markets where TrafficPulse has been available for years. TWC, as with most media outlets, does not use this historical data.
Is this also why the traffic maps have been disabled everywhere?
No. Historical data has been used by TrafficPulse for over a year now. The map issue was caused by TrafficPulse changing the coding for the maps, which screwed up TWC's.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Pop Light Brown on April 14, 2010, 11:48:08 PM
TrafficPulse simply pulls all the traffic data from local sources. Because your city or location is not served by them is not their fault. TWC uses them because it would be stupid if not impossible to try and get data from every state/city locale that has data. Traffic data is run by local governments. It is up to that state to spend money on senors and infrastructure for major roadways and interstates.


TennDOT does have traffic info and cameras for the state's metro areas. Traffic.com is run by NAVTEQ. It appears that NAVTEQ and the respective metro area or DOT have a partnership in place that allows NAVTEQ to access and use the data.

http://bhelp.traffic.com/where-does-trafficcom-get-traffic-information (http://bhelp.traffic.com/where-does-trafficcom-get-traffic-information)
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Tyler on April 15, 2010, 01:40:37 AM
It should also be noted that TWC is not (and hasn't for a while) adding anymore traffic data to new, or existing markets. Nothing will be done about that until the system is transitioned to HD.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: xoddf2 on April 15, 2010, 12:46:23 PM
Tulsa, OK gets traffic? That's surprising.
Yes, 22689 has traffic products.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 15, 2010, 12:55:30 PM
Here's the full list

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7261/tfnmmp.jpg)
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: mightynine on April 15, 2010, 01:16:06 PM
Wait a minute, I can tell you for a fact  that New Orleans gets traffic speeds on its Intellistar.  I see it all the time.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 15, 2010, 03:25:25 PM
Here's the full list

([url]http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7261/tfnmmp.jpg[/url])

Yeah, I'm not thinking that list is accurate.

Here are some corrections I noticed right away:
-Baltimore, DFW, and New Orleans have the overview map
-Sacramento and Indianapolis do not.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Tyler on April 15, 2010, 04:18:43 PM
Here are some corrections I noticed right away:
-Baltimore, DFW, and New Orleans have the overview map
-Sacramento and Indianapolis do not.

Whether or not a market uses an overview map has nothing to do with TrafficPulse. The use of overview maps in a market is the choice of TWC. Indy use to have a map, but then TWC pulled maps from markets where the coverage was too little, making the maps virtually useless.
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Zach on April 15, 2010, 05:39:44 PM
Tampa, IMO doesn't need the maps, but I was out in Tampa traffic today and there were lots of people trying to cause accidents and roads were backed up. :wacko:
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: TWCToday on April 15, 2010, 08:21:34 PM
Here's the full list

([url]http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7261/tfnmmp.jpg[/url])


Yea its a little off. I get speed info,etc too
Title: Re: Should Memphis Get Traffic On The IntelliSTAR?
Post by: Tyler on April 16, 2010, 10:48:24 AM
Tampa, IMO doesn't need the maps, but I was out in Tampa traffic today and there were lots of people trying to cause accidents and roads were backed up. :wacko:
You get that everywhere you go. ;)