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Title: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on May 17, 2009, 09:22:07 PM
For the past week, my STAR has had new product playlists (the internal name used for what we TWC fans call "flavors") being tested on it. It's not been determined yet whether these changes are final, and a national roll out will occur or not. One of two things may or may not happen tomorrow (Monday) - the playlists will be tested on certain STARs, or they will do a national test. It's really a wait-and-see kind of thing. The biggest changes are outlined below:

-The CC screen no longer starts off each LF. The :08/:38 local starts with the local ob screens.
-When the wx bulletin screen is active, it is the very first screen. Also, this prevents the CC screen from showing during the :18/:48 LF, where the metro CC and regional CC screens are used instead.
-Seeing more of the getaway, air quality, and almanac screens on a regular basis.


Ready... set... discuss!
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: TWCToday on May 17, 2009, 09:22:48 PM
Be interesting to see who gets this tomorrow. Im not a fan of seeing less of the CC screen  :noexpression:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 17, 2009, 09:34:16 PM
Is the CC screen going to show at a different time during the :08/:38, or is it not going to display at all during that forecast? Whether it shows or not, at least we've got the LDL, but the drawback is we don't have narration for current weather data, and there also isn't any current data when there's a weather advisory/warning.

I know the FiOS IntelliStar for Philadelphia starts out with the local obs in one of the flavors. It also currently doesn't show regional maps at all, last I checked.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on May 17, 2009, 09:44:58 PM
Is the CC screen going to show at a different time during the :08/:38, or is it not going to display at all during that forecast?
It doesn't show at all.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 17, 2009, 10:07:58 PM
For the past week, my STAR has had new product playlists (the internal name used for what we TWC fans call "flavors") being tested on it. It's not been determined yet whether these changes are final, and a national roll out will occur or not. One of two things may or may not happen tomorrow (Monday) - the playlists will be tested on certain STARs, or they will do a national test. It's really a wait-and-see kind of thing. The biggest changes are outlined below:

-The CC screen no longer starts off each LF. The :08/:38 local starts with the local ob screens.
-When the wx bulletin screen is active, it is the very first screen. Also, this prevents the CC screen from showing during the :18/:48 LF, where the metro CC and regional CC screens are used instead.
-Seeing more of the getaway, air quality, and almanac screens on a regular basis.


Ready... set... discuss!

They have been testing this on the Atlanta IntelliStar since Friday evening right before that Satillite Outage, I have some videos of it, I thought something may have been wrong with my IntelliStar.

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Be interesting to see who gets this tomorrow. Im not a fan of seeing less of the CC screen 


I'm not a big fan of that happening either.  :no:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: twcfan68 on May 17, 2009, 10:15:36 PM
I'm not too sure what I think about this at the moment. It'll sure be different. But, as a dedicated fan of The Weather Channel, I'm going to support the change.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: beanboy89 on May 17, 2009, 10:23:39 PM
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. In a way it will be like the old days back when the 3000 and 4000 ruled the airwaves; back when some flavors started with the Latest Hourly Observations or Regional Observations screens.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Darr'chelle on May 17, 2009, 10:25:11 PM
Yeah...this is definitely going to be a time warp for some of the longtime fans.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Gil on May 17, 2009, 10:37:30 PM
Don't think I'd like seeing less of the CC and more Getaway/Air Quality.

It's like taking away the information that people really care about, and replacing it with info they don't. :hmm: (Not that I speak for everyone)

It will be interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 17, 2009, 10:50:59 PM
Here's the new flavor for the :18 and :48 Btw I dubbed in the music you hear, I was tired of recording the same songs over and over again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqNRyLpVJP4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqNRyLpVJP4#)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 18, 2009, 08:08:45 AM
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. In a way it will be like the old days back when the 3000 and 4000 ruled the airwaves; back when some flavors started with the Latest Hourly Observations or Regional Observations screens.

I wasn't sure how i felt about this, but when you put it that way it doesn't sound so bad!  :P
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 18, 2009, 08:41:08 AM
It's not a nationwide test yet as I see Albany's LF starting with the CC screen at all times this morning.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: LFMusicFan on May 18, 2009, 09:44:45 AM
I wonder if this means my intellistar will add in the regional maps again. :thinking:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: beanboy89 on May 18, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
At 9:48 AM ET, I saw a LF that started with the metro CC map.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 18, 2009, 10:09:25 AM
i just had a 1 min forecast  :o

I would love to see the 36/48hr forecast earlier in the forecast

Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: beanboy89 on May 18, 2009, 10:12:51 AM
i just had a 1 min forecast  :o
That was strange; It looked like commercials somehow interrupted the local forecast, and then after the commercials, they played the top of the hour Vortex2 bumper.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 18, 2009, 10:14:27 AM
i just had a 1 min forecast  :o
That was strange; It looked like commercials somehow interrupted the local forecast, and then after the commercials, they played the top of the hour Vortex2 bumper.

Im shocked it was the same long form :29/:59 flavor at 10:08am on my STAR :blink:

Did anybody's forecast get cut off?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: tpirfan28 on May 18, 2009, 10:19:55 AM
Another 1min at 10:18, going Metro Obs/Almanac/School Day/Metro Forecasts/Local Forecasts/Week Ahead.

Snipe the School Day for the Daypart and that's decent.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 18, 2009, 10:29:54 AM
CC 8 cities at :28 to start
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: mattregozo1987 on May 18, 2009, 10:41:28 AM
The Now/Current Conditions for the area at the beginning of Local on the 8's is no longer available on IntelliStar. This is the first time since WeatherStar 4000 way back in the 90s that the Regional Conditions start and Latest Observations start beginning to appear at the beginning of the Local Forecast for the first time. Although, you can still use the WeatherStar 4000 Emulator on Computer to look at the Current Conditions segment.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 10:59:44 AM
It's not a nationwide test yet as I see Albany's LF starting with the CC screen at all times this morning.
Yeah, still normal with the E.L. Intellistar as well....... :blink:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 11:10:23 AM
New one minute flavor tested at 11:08 AM EDT for the E.L. Intellistar. For the first time EVER, it skipped over the radar and went right from the metro map CC to the sat/rad product! I will edit videos if my tuner worked properly today after school.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 11:20:16 AM
Wow, new flavor at 11:18 AM EDT!  :biggrin: :dance: ;)

Current conditions metro map> Almanac>Metro Map Forecast> 36 Hour Fcst>Week Ahead  :wacko:

and to top it off, "Night WInd" by Ryan Farish, a primetime song, played!  :blink:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 18, 2009, 01:08:26 PM
Here's all 5 so far

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbtp7MKyiW8&fmt=18#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbtp7MKyiW8&fmt=18#ws)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7W-q54HbIs&fmt=18#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7W-q54HbIs&fmt=18#ws)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W85YrblR_M&fmt=18#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W85YrblR_M&fmt=18#ws)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzABjOPndDM&fmt=18#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzABjOPndDM&fmt=18#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N11JZ9waEUY&fmt=18#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N11JZ9waEUY&fmt=18#ws)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: yourweathertoday on May 18, 2009, 01:29:13 PM
The Now/Current Conditions for the area at the beginning of Local on the 8's is no longer available on IntelliStar. This is the first time since WeatherStar 4000 way back in the 90s that the Regional Conditions start and Latest Observations start beginning to appear at the beginning of the Local Forecast for the first time. Although, you can still use the WeatherStar 4000 Emulator on Computer to look at the Current Conditions segment.
Pat is this a confirmed fact? If it is I'm gonna be reaaaaaaaaaaaaaly pissed  :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: texasstooge on May 18, 2009, 01:43:01 PM
I've gotten the new product lineups as well. Not impressed with it to tell the truth.
Pat is this a confirmed fact? If it is I'm gonna be reaaaaaaaaaaaaaly pissed  :censored: :censored: :censored:
The Now/Current Conditions page still starts at :58 past.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 18, 2009, 01:45:21 PM
The thing that irritates me is the forecasts are shrunk to 1 min to allow ad inserts to take up most of the time before and after the Local forecast :furious:

Which a J Flavor if they could make one should take the ads' place
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: twcfan68 on May 18, 2009, 02:15:53 PM
I'm happy to see a new twist, actually. :)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 02:32:03 PM
I'm happy to see a new twist, actually. :)
Yeah, same here. I still don't understand why TWC is doing this though  :dunno:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 03:05:20 PM
This is an absurd move, I hope they don't finalize this idea, especially the fact that they are one minute forecasts and that the CC and LF screens don't show all the time anymore.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2009, 03:13:49 PM
Terrible decision. They shrunk the local forecasts! That means no more extra minute of music. :angry:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 03:14:58 PM
Terrible decision. They shrunk the local forecasts! That means no more extra minute of music. :angry:
Networks are so money-hungry these days that I wouldn't be surprised if that is permanent. :(
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2009, 03:16:15 PM
I can't believe there doing this for more ads. The 2 min flavours run for the :28 and :58 lfs. I don't care about the :18 and :48 lfs if they're shortened to a minute because they're shortened flavours anyways. The :38 and :08 lfs are still 2 minute though?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 03:19:08 PM
I can't believe there doing this for more ads. The 2 min flavours run for the :28 and :58 lfs. I don't care about the :18 and :48 lfs if they're shortened to a minute because they're shortened flavours anyways. The :38 and :08 lfs are still 2 minute though?
Yeah, I think that's going a little too far. At least make the :08/:38 LFs 1:30. You can't get a lot of weather data in one minute. And no more CC and LF every flavor? I sometimes find the narration in those screens useful while in a hurry.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2009, 03:28:33 PM
I can't believe there doing this for more ads. The 2 min flavours run for the :28 and :58 lfs. I don't care about the :18 and :48 lfs if they're shortened to a minute because they're shortened flavours anyways. The :38 and :08 lfs are still 2 minute though?
Yeah, I think that's going a little too far. At least make the :08/:38 LFs 1:30. You can't get a lot of weather data in one minute. And no more CC and LF every flavor? I sometimes find the narration in those screens useful while in a hurry.
I'm not in favour of this at all. They're shortening the lfs more and more..Before it used to be 2 minute on all local forecasts, then 1:30 at :18 and :48 lfs and now 1 min all flavours except the :28 and :58. National feed still same and boring.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: beanboy89 on May 18, 2009, 03:45:30 PM
For a few days back in September 2006, they tried making the :18 and :48 LFs only a minute long, but the idea was scrapped almost as soon as it started.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 03:47:30 PM
Well, the Lansing and E.L. Intellistar Units sure do try to distance themselves from each other. According to my clip of TWC from today, I see that my Intellistar here in Lansing starting acting strange as of the 9:38 AM EDT LF, and has been alternating the school day and outdoor activity forecast products all morning. I posted earlier that the E.L. Intellistar starting behaving strange (showing different flavors) as of the 11:08 AM EDT LF. I will post videos soon, as soon as I decide what to post.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 18, 2009, 03:49:50 PM
I would love a J Flavor in this lineup and hopefully scrap these 1 min flavors and 1:30 flavors in the near future.

Thats all we need is a 2 min and 2:30 flavor or maybe the J if there was enough time on each lf segment.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 04:08:26 PM
I would love a J Flavor in this lineup and hopefully scrap these 1 min flavors and 1:30 flavors in the near future.

Thats all we need is a 2 min and 2:30 flavor or maybe the J if there was enough time on each lf segment.
While I am in support of this move-around, I do think that there should only be one flavor. I can see why maybe the Getaway Forecast product, for example, shows normally at :38 and :08, but I think there should only be a two minute flavor. These one minute and 90 second flavors just do not seem necessary to me.  :no:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2009, 04:10:32 PM
A 2 min flavour? :huh:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 04:11:36 PM
Well, watching the 4:08 PM EDT LF, I notice that the wintry precip indicators are on the regional radar screen. That then cut to a frozen satellite image. I also see this LF is now 2 minutes.......
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 18, 2009, 04:12:58 PM
Wow lets see at :18 might be a 1 min again i wish it would be a 2 min tho or maybe more...
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: twcfan68 on May 18, 2009, 04:13:54 PM
Does anyone know how the XL and other units are or if they are changing? I'm sure they also need to queue when the IS does as well.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2009, 04:20:01 PM
A K flavor at :18? Huh? Did TWC listen to us or something? :blink:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
A K flavor at :18? Huh? Did TWC listen to us or something? :blink:
Well, things are obviously all over the place and so screwy, so I am not sure there is any answer here.......  :thinking:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 04:30:07 PM
Wow, messed up Almanac on the 4:28 PM EDT LF!
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Robert on May 18, 2009, 04:31:23 PM
Does anyone know how the XL and other units are or if they are changing? I'm sure they also need to queue when the IS does as well.

My XL shows the CC screen on all :08, :18, :28, :38, :48, and :58, but some are shorten to 1 minute. I really don't see what's so bad about this, didn't the 3000, and 4000 units have these type of short flavors in the 90s?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 04:32:26 PM
Either TWC listened, or perhaps the :08/:38 LFs are one minute long outside of the AM/PM Rush?

Wow, messed up Almanac on the 4:28 PM EDT LF!
What about it was messed up?
 
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 18, 2009, 04:32:36 PM
Speaking of Almanacs, the one with the Moon Phases has suddenly returned on my IntelliStar since this new flavor lineup started up nationally, I haven't seen it in over a year!
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
Either TWC listened, or perhaps the :08/:38 LFs are one minute long outside of the AM/PM Rush?

Wow, messed up Almanac on the 4:28 PM EDT LF!
What about it was messed up?
I will upload a video of it soon. It is too difficult to describe  :wacko:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 18, 2009, 04:39:06 PM
Speaking of Almanacs, the one with the Moon Phases has suddenly returned on my IntelliStar since this new flavor lineup started up nationally, I haven't seen it in over a year!
We're still getting the temperature almanac here.

I'm getting both the moon and temperature one, I saw the temperature one at 3:58pm edt and the moon one at 4:08pm edt, I was very surprised to it again.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 04:40:17 PM
Sorry for the double posting, but the almanac appears fine now. Now that I look at my clip again, it looks to me like the almanac just did not transition in properly.

BTW, are the flavors returning to normal now?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 18, 2009, 04:42:17 PM
The thing that irritates me is the forecasts are shrunk to 1 min to allow ad inserts to take up most of the time before and after the Local forecast :furious:

Which a J Flavor if they could make one should take the ads' place
Same here, and agreed. 1 Minutes LF flavor is  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 04:42:33 PM
Sorry for the double posting, but the almanac appears fine now. Now that I look at my clip again, it looks to me like the almanac just did not transition in properly.

BTW, are the flavors returning to normal now?
The local forecast at 4:38 ET started with the local obs, and there was only a 36-hour forecast instead of 48. Other than that, it was pretty much like how it was before 10AM this morning.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2009, 04:58:43 PM
At least it's normal for now. I hope this is only an early morning thing..I don't want this to take place for the rest of the lfs. I don't mind if they changed the flavours but there's no need to further shrink the LF's duration.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: yourweathertoday on May 18, 2009, 05:02:22 PM
I believe there was some Trammel playing during the 4:48 and 4:58 ET LFs!  :yes:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 05:04:22 PM
I believe there was some Trammel playing during the 4:48 and 4:58 ET LFs!  :yes:

Yep! Also, here is my video of the errors at 4:28 PM EDT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5twFMeMskOE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5twFMeMskOE#)

Notice a few things here:
-The wintry precip indicators have been turned on
-The clouds are frozen on the sat/rad product, with 3 frames for the radar portion of it.
-The almanac does not transition completely in, and looks funny.

Here is the 4:48 PM EDT Trammell Outage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mt0H2HdeL8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mt0H2HdeL8#)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: yourweathertoday on May 18, 2009, 05:09:06 PM
haha wow that IS a screwed up Almanac haha  :clap:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wstarcraze on May 18, 2009, 05:17:20 PM
The almanac was messed up. dang.

Possible first sign of graphics degradation on the intellistar?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: TWCToday on May 18, 2009, 06:01:22 PM
The almanac was messed up. dang.

Possible first sign of graphics degradation on the intellistar?
Thats not even possible.


TWC why must you continue to shoot yourself in the foot  :censored:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Robert on May 18, 2009, 06:08:47 PM
TWC why must you continue to shoot yourself in the foot  :censored:

Because they've been hijacked by a bunch of morons..  <_<
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 18, 2009, 06:20:18 PM
I'm not too fond of the new flavors because they're becoming very random and wacky, but I like the segments they're bring back like the Moon Phases on the Almanac, I'm both the moon/sunrise/sunset and temperature/record almanac and I saw the Tonight's Forecast (Regional) I don't remember the last time I saw that one.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wstarcraze on May 18, 2009, 06:41:16 PM
My IntelliSTAR isn't showing moon phases. Just showing temp info/records
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 18, 2009, 07:23:50 PM
The new flavors are ok IMO, but the only one that I don't like was the :18/48 flavor being changed from 90 to 60 seconds...ugh.  :thumbdown: for changing the :18/:48 flavors, thanks to those stupid, useless ads.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Darr'chelle on May 18, 2009, 07:40:02 PM
Bring back Dan Chandler! Turn back the clock!
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Evan2015 on May 18, 2009, 08:01:22 PM
The thing that irritates me is the forecasts are shrunk to 1 min to allow ad inserts to take up most of the time before and after the Local forecast :furious:

Which a J Flavor if they could make one should take the ads' place
I smell a peacock
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on May 18, 2009, 08:18:17 PM
The one minute playlists should be shown from 10am-2pm et, IIRC.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 18, 2009, 08:20:37 PM
The one minute playlists should be shown from 10am-2pm et, IIRC.
agreed.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: beanboy89 on May 18, 2009, 08:40:52 PM
Just saw a flavor here at 8:38 PM ET that started off with the Weather Bulletins screen then had the Current Conditions afterward.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 18, 2009, 08:41:40 PM
Just saw a flavor here at 8:38 PM ET that started off with the Weather Bulletins screen then had the Current Conditions afterward.
The Weather Bulletins screen is always going to be first from now on if it's shown.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: tpirfan28 on May 18, 2009, 08:45:18 PM
-When the wx bulletin screen is active, it is the very first screen.
Does this mean we are any closer to having a map-based wx bulletin screen?
</jackass>
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 18, 2009, 09:00:11 PM
Just saw a flavor here at 8:38 PM ET that started off with the Weather Bulletins screen then had the Current Conditions afterward.
The Weather Bulletins screen is always going to be first from now on if it's shown.

That's right, I recorded a couple of videos of this from :08 and :38 of the hour.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 09:34:19 PM
The one minute playlists should be shown from 10am-2pm et, IIRC.
That's what I thought. What about during weekends? Same time?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: beanboy89 on May 18, 2009, 09:41:24 PM
Here are videos of the one-minute forecasts from this morning:

:08/:38:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4FjjSLMmTg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4FjjSLMmTg#)

:18/:48:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0QmZ9WP0wA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0QmZ9WP0wA#)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on May 18, 2009, 09:56:55 PM
The one minute playlists should be shown from 10am-2pm et, IIRC.
That's what I thought. What about during weekends? Same time?
Just to clarify, my post was a statement (not a wish, or anything). The 1 min locals air from 10am-2pm et. No idea about weekends.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Darr'chelle on May 18, 2009, 10:18:36 PM
Here are some things TWC should do:

1. Run the LDL during commercials and make the commercials smaller.
2. Make the 36-hour forecast a more graphical product...think the old Extended Forecast. No Vocal Local.
3. Stop promoting an entire infomercial of sorts in your Lot8s openers.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 18, 2009, 10:33:58 PM
OK, so this may be answered somewhere in this thread (because I haven't read through all 6 pages yet), but why in the world is the CC screen going away??? :wacko: <_< To me, that seems like one of the most important parts of the Local Forecast.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: twcfan68 on May 18, 2009, 10:54:42 PM
I guess they figure that the LDL takes care of most of that information. I'm glad they chose to keep it at the :28 and :58 though
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Jake on May 19, 2009, 06:53:12 AM
Yeah, not liking the new change. The CC slide is the most important slide.

Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: jtmal0723 on May 19, 2009, 07:03:27 AM
as I've said before... you'll get used to it and will learn to adjust once the next change you don't like comes along......
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 19, 2009, 08:41:31 AM
as I've said before... you'll get used to it and will learn to adjust once the next change you don't like comes along......

Yes but in the meantime they DO have the right to their opinion, positive or negative.  :biggrin: B)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: narunetto on May 19, 2009, 01:05:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN6HNA18zG0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN6HNA18zG0#)
Here's one I took yesterday
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 19, 2009, 01:30:35 PM
I don't know if I just missed a few seconds, but I think the 1:28 PM EDT LF opened right to the 8 city guesses page. I also don't recall hearing narration for the radar while i was typing this. Wow, only a 24 hour text fcst with another 9 second pause before transitioning into the week ahead. Wow, this is definitely going to take some getting used to.  :yes:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: narunetto on May 19, 2009, 01:41:32 PM
That was a weird one... at :38 there was no 36-hour forecast. Jeez.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: beanboy89 on May 19, 2009, 01:48:02 PM
That was a weird one... at :38 there was no 36-hour forecast. Jeez.
From 10am-2pm eastern the :08, :18, :38, and :48 LFs are only a minute long, and the :08 and :38 LFs don't show the text-based forecasts.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on May 19, 2009, 02:48:47 PM
FYI - these changes are just the beginning.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 19, 2009, 02:56:33 PM
FYI - these changes are just the beginning.

I can't wait to see what changes those are to the IntelliSTAR

one good Addition would be a feature that would allow the viewer to choose to turn the narration on and off during a forecast.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on May 19, 2009, 03:36:15 PM
FYI - these changes are just the beginning.

I can't wait to see what changes those are to the IntelliSTAR

one good Addition would be a feature that would allow the viewer to choose to turn the narration on and off during a forecast.

I meant more lineup changes. And that "addition" is impossible to add. :footinmouth:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 19, 2009, 03:40:42 PM
That was a weird one... at :38 there was no 36-hour forecast. Jeez.
From 10am-2pm eastern the :08, :18, :38, and :48 LFs are only a minute long, and the :08 and :38 LFs don't show the text-based forecasts.
ouchie, 11:30am to 2pm are my peak recording times..
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: narunetto on May 19, 2009, 04:04:49 PM
FYI - these changes are just the beginning.
What ever comes, I'm ready.  B)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 19, 2009, 04:07:44 PM
FYI - these changes are just the beginning.
What ever comes, I'm ready.  B)
The beginning of what? IS changes or changes with TWC in general?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 19, 2009, 04:31:58 PM
The beginning of what? IS changes or changes with TWC in general?
Tyler just said only flavor lineup changes. I hope it's nothing too big, like having the current weather data show after the forecast data.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: LFMusicFan on May 19, 2009, 06:39:59 PM
I can't believe even after all these changes, they STILL haven't enabled the regional maps. :no:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: yourweathertoday on May 19, 2009, 06:47:09 PM
I can't believe even after all these changes, they STILL haven't enabled the regional maps. :no:
that would make too much sense  <_< :bleh:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 19, 2009, 06:50:22 PM
I can't believe even after all these changes, they STILL haven't enabled the regional maps. :no:

You haven't had regional maps?  :huh: I've had regional maps prior to this change and still do.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on May 19, 2009, 07:15:43 PM
I can't believe even after all these changes, they STILL haven't enabled the regional maps. :no:
Do you have marine and traffic products? If so, that's probably why.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 19, 2009, 07:26:12 PM
I can't believe even after all these changes, they STILL haven't enabled the regional maps. :no:
Do you have marine and traffic products? If so, that's probably why.
Yes, he does have marine products, but does not have traffic data.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: LFMusicFan on May 19, 2009, 07:59:52 PM
I can't believe even after all these changes, they STILL haven't enabled the regional maps. :no:
Do you have marine and traffic products? If so, that's probably why.
I do have marine products, but for a couple months last year, I can recall consistantly seeing them appear. When they stopped appearing consistantly, I'd occasionally see them if the marine forecast was unavailable or the radar screen was omitted. But recently (before all these changes were made yesterday), they were completely omitted, even during the 1 min flavor (the 8 city list was shown instead).
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 19, 2009, 08:26:46 PM
I can't believe even after all these changes, they STILL haven't enabled the regional maps. :no:
Do you have marine and traffic products? If so, that's probably why.
I've seen IntelliStars up in Central Jersey with both these products and the regional map still shows.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on May 19, 2009, 08:53:37 PM
I just thought of this - you might be on a different playlist (which may not include regional maps). Western STARs are different because of the satellite loop.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 20, 2009, 12:23:56 PM
Are the flavor changes done? Are there any more coming (new ones)? I am still having a hard time getting used to the flavors now  :rofl2:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: tpirfan28 on May 20, 2009, 12:51:08 PM
I've seen all the flavors now, and I really don't see a problem with it.

For people complaining about no Current screen...my IStar covers more than the city on the main screen.  The metro map actually serves me better.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 20, 2009, 01:22:20 PM
I've seen all the flavors now, and I really don't see a problem with it.

For people complaining about no Current screen...my IStar covers more than the city on the main screen.  The metro map actually serves me better.

I agree matt no CC serves me better also because i am able to see my city Fall River, Instead of the nearby city New Bedford
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 20, 2009, 03:45:17 PM
I can't believe even after all these changes, they STILL haven't enabled the regional maps. :no:
Do you have marine and traffic products? If so, that's probably why.
I've seen IntelliStars up in Central Jersey with both these products and the regional map still shows.
The Atlantic City intellistar has this as well.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 20, 2009, 03:56:58 PM
A.C. IntelliStars have traffic reports now? Since when? When I was there last month there was no traffic.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 20, 2009, 04:38:01 PM
I'm talking about the regional maps...
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Darr'chelle on May 20, 2009, 05:18:27 PM
Actually, in certain areas, the lack of Current Conditions makes sense because this is one STAR for a whole metro area.

Oddly enough, there's even a non-suburb on the Phoenix map (Komatke; it's on the Gila River Indian Community that abuts the Phoenix area to the south: if you come from the south on I-10 to Phoenix, it SLAMS into you.)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: narunetto on May 20, 2009, 05:40:01 PM
I think they should still start out the first frame with some type of narration like "The Current Conditions in our area". It just seems weird with nothin in there.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 20, 2009, 08:37:09 PM
I think they should still start out the first frame with some type of narration like "The Current Conditions in our area". It just seems weird with nothin in there.
There is in fact a phrase that was already recorded for the IntelliStar that was never used called "Local observations around our area," or something to that effect. Now would be a great time to use that narration.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: tpirfan28 on May 20, 2009, 08:50:47 PM
This would be a tremendous time to hear it. *hint hint wink wink*
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: narunetto on May 20, 2009, 09:22:36 PM
I think they should still start out the first frame with some type of narration like "The Current Conditions in our area". It just seems weird with nothin in there.
There is in fact a phrase that was already recorded for the IntelliStar that was never used called "Local observations around our area," or something to that effect. Now would be a great time to use that narration.
I thought so. If so, it would be perfect for them to use it.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: TWCToday on May 21, 2009, 12:02:05 AM
That indeed would be a good time for it :yes: Wish they would add it
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 21, 2009, 01:44:33 PM
Well, the 1:28 PM EDT LF started with the 8 city 'guesses' pages with the E.L. Intellistar. Evidently, people with traffic products are not the only ones who see this.  :o

I am not able to keep up with all these different flavors. I like the concept of trying out new flavors, but I am still trying to understand it.  :thinking:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: TWCToday on May 21, 2009, 05:36:18 PM
Let me tell you im not surprised if anyone is confused by the flavors. I can tell you they are REALLY extensive!!
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Al on May 21, 2009, 05:48:42 PM
Let me tell you im not surprised if anyone is confused by the flavors. I can tell you they are REALLY extensive!!

i am...lol anyone wanna recap? haha. i just am never around tv anymore...high school, college, friends, it's all piling up.  :lol:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 21, 2009, 06:04:13 PM
Well, I am real fortunate in regards to the amount of TWC I am able to watch at school. While I can't ever watch it in class, I get to watch a half hour during lunch (10:48 AM EDT-11:20 AM EDT), and at least 1-2 LFs between 1:28 PM EDT and 2:00 PM EDT.  :)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 21, 2009, 09:23:10 PM
TWC is among the few channels in my school's TV system. I am only able to watch it once in a good while.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 21, 2009, 09:27:13 PM
TWC is among the few channels in my school's TV system. I am only able to watch it once in a good while.
A few years ago, I was surprised to find out schools can have cable TV. I never thought a school would get cable simply because of what it is.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 22, 2009, 01:32:23 PM
I seem to be noticing that there are some discrepancies between the Lansing and E.L. Intellistar units. Namely, the music sounds remixed and different as compared to the Lansing headend.

Here is a video to exemplify this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tet-qmVJCaQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tet-qmVJCaQ#)

I honestly don't understand this, as to why the music sound different on the E.L. headend as opposed to the Lansing headend. I have no idea why, but this is driving me crazy.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 22, 2009, 03:22:52 PM
Like I said in that video, it's probably just how the headends rely on the signal. Do you have digital or analog cable in both your houses?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 22, 2009, 03:33:00 PM
Like I said in that video, it's probably just how the headends rely on the signal. Do you have digital or analog cable in both your houses?
Oh okay, I am at school so I don't have any way of knowing you commented. Anyway, the set-up is the same for both my mom's house and my dad's:
Downstairs, in the living room, the cable is originally connected to the cable box, which is also connected to the TV in that room. My TV tuner and any TV upstairs is connected to the closest cable jack in the room.

So, you must be right, in that it is probably the headend. I still don't understand how that would cause the music to sound different. Do you ever notice any differences in how the music sounds between your Mt Holly and Lower Bucks headends?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: tpirfan28 on May 22, 2009, 08:11:11 PM
Something weird...the 8:08PM local started out with the Now/4city/4city start without narration.  Narration was on...the Radar segment and all following were narrated.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 22, 2009, 08:41:28 PM
Something weird...the 8:08PM local started out with the Now/4city/4city start without narration.  Narration was on...the Radar segment and all following were narrated.
Hmm, it started with the Front Page CC with the E.L. headend, but I too noticed no narration at the beginning.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: tpirfan28 on May 22, 2009, 09:41:55 PM
I do like that Along the Way/Hughes seems to be playing a lot at 8/38 with the non-narrated CC screen...that song has a nice intro that gets muddled up with the narration over it.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 22, 2009, 11:04:47 PM
Something weird...the 8:08PM local started out with the Now/4city/4city start without narration.  Narration was on...the Radar segment and all following were narrated.
Hmm, it started with the Front Page CC with the E.L. headend, but I too noticed no narration at the beginning.
The narration wasn't heard most likely because there wasn't enough time for all of it to be heard. Just like how it was like on the old one-minute flavors when there was a weather bulletin.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 23, 2009, 10:35:35 AM
Well, we are beginning the first weekend after the flavor changes began.......
Is there a set of flavors for the weekend? I notice that every :08 and :38 LF opens directly to the 8 city 'guesses' segment.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 23, 2009, 10:45:04 AM
The one minute :08/:38 forecast is a lot like the XL's one minute flavor from 2002-03. The only exception is that the radar displayed after the week ahead instead of after the current conditions.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on May 23, 2009, 11:25:03 AM
I think they might be testing a few new flavors on my STAR. I'm only seeing the radar at :28/:58, and the :18/:48 flavor was weird: Metro CC, Almanac, Metro Forecast (2), 48 Hour Local, Week Ahead.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 23, 2009, 11:28:08 AM
Really? A radar showing continuously for two minutes?

The :28 flavor here started with the local obs instead of the metro map like before.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: beanboy89 on May 23, 2009, 11:35:46 AM
Really? A radar showing continuously for two minutes?
No. He means that the radar is only showing during the :28 and :58 LFs, and it's not showing during the other LFs.

I've been seeing that flavor here as well, Tyler, from 10am-2pm, IIRC.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 23, 2009, 11:37:12 AM
Hmm, let me take a look. I sure hope the radar at least displays on other flavors during events of precipitation.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on May 23, 2009, 11:49:33 AM
I'm still getting the radar here, but that's because there's rain nearby.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 23, 2009, 11:57:53 AM
There was a 2min flavour until 11:08am. now the locals are 1 min except the :28/:58 ones.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 23, 2009, 12:05:50 PM
Well, I am really curious to know how this is affecting the XL or 4000. I am going up to Mt Pleasant tomorrow, and I certainly hope to find an XL. Were all these flavor changes only meant to affect the Intellistar?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 23, 2009, 12:06:51 PM
Well, I am really curious to know how this is affecting the XL or 4000. I am going up to Mt Pleasant tomorrow, and I certainly hope to find an XL. Were all these flavor changes only meant to affect the Intellistar?
Jeremy told me the XL flavor's are unaffected.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 23, 2009, 12:15:10 PM
Well, I am really curious to know how this is affecting the XL or 4000. I am going up to Mt Pleasant tomorrow, and I certainly hope to find an XL. Were all these flavor changes only meant to affect the Intellistar?
Jeremy told me the XL flavor's are unaffected.
Who's Jeremy?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 23, 2009, 12:18:29 PM
Well, I am really curious to know how this is affecting the XL or 4000. I am going up to Mt Pleasant tomorrow, and I certainly hope to find an XL. Were all these flavor changes only meant to affect the Intellistar?
Jeremy told me the XL flavor's are unaffected.
Who's Jeremy?
CriminalCola
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 23, 2009, 12:23:38 PM
Well, I am really curious to know how this is affecting the XL or 4000. I am going up to Mt Pleasant tomorrow, and I certainly hope to find an XL. Were all these flavor changes only meant to affect the Intellistar?
Jeremy told me the XL flavor's are unaffected.
Who's Jeremy?
CriminalCola
Oh wow, I didn't know that. He hasn't been active in ages, and I sure wish he would post another XL video soon.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 23, 2009, 12:28:24 PM
Well, here's post 10,800 in the "Local Forecast" thread. Anyway, the 12:28 PM EDT LF opened right to the 8 city 'guesses' segment. I am still trying to get used to that.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 23, 2009, 03:31:49 PM
Does anyone know if these flavor changes are just the beginning of what could be coming later this summer? :dunno:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Al on May 23, 2009, 04:01:04 PM
fail...we have a severe thunderstorm warning in a effect, and it was not shown on the LF...
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 23, 2009, 05:43:24 PM
fail...we have a severe thunderstorm warning in a effect, and it was not shown on the LF...
Hmm, that's odd  :thinking:

Anyway, the Comcast headend here in the E.L. is having problems receiving the video feed from TWC, but the audio is fine. What is even more bizzarre is that the Intellistar unit is able to generate the forecasts, and I hear the narration along with the music. Again, the one problem, NO VIDEO!
Is this happening to anyone else? I have an uneducated theory that these flavor changes are behind this, as the weather is fine both here and down in Atlanta.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 23, 2009, 06:25:39 PM
fail...we have a severe thunderstorm warning in a effect, and it was not shown on the LF...

I never see warnings on my LF anymore, by the time it does show up or scroll on the LF, my Weatherscan headend has been in Severe Weather Mode for a good 30 minutes, how does Weatherscan announce the warning well before TWC does? :wacko:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 24, 2009, 08:40:32 AM
Well, for starters, I notice the video feed is fine here in Lansing. Anyway, I also see that the :28 LF is not the only one during the day that starts with the 8 city 'guesses' page, as the 8:38 AM EDT LF did :blink:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: yourweathertoday on May 24, 2009, 03:09:35 PM
Does anyone know if these flavor changes are just the beginning of what could be coming later this summer? :dunno:
What exactly are you referring to Pat?  :blink: I know we've heard the rumor of a graphics update this summer, but I don't know if the flavors have anything to do with that. Could be wrong though  :biggrin:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Al on May 24, 2009, 03:14:44 PM
Does anyone know if these flavor changes are just the beginning of what could be coming later this summer? :dunno:
What exactly are you referring to Pat?  :blink: I know we've heard the rumor of a graphics update this summer, but I don't know if the flavors have anything to do with that. Could be wrong though  :biggrin:

where did you hear that rumor? also, kinda doubt it...
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 24, 2009, 06:25:56 PM
Does anyone know if these flavor changes are just the beginning of what could be coming later this summer? :dunno:
What exactly are you referring to Pat?  :blink: I know we've heard the rumor of a graphics update this summer, but I don't know if the flavors have anything to do with that. Could be wrong though  :biggrin:

where did you hear that rumor? also, kinda doubt it...
I was wondering if we've seen all the flavor changes now or if this might be just the beginning of a wave of new changes that will continue later into the summer.  Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: TWCToday on May 24, 2009, 09:48:04 PM
Does anyone know if these flavor changes are just the beginning of what could be coming later this summer? :dunno:
What exactly are you referring to Pat?  :blink: I know we've heard the rumor of a graphics update this summer, but I don't know if the flavors have anything to do with that. Could be wrong though  :biggrin:
That is FALSE
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: yourweathertoday on May 24, 2009, 10:33:09 PM
Does anyone know if these flavor changes are just the beginning of what could be coming later this summer? :dunno:
What exactly are you referring to Pat?  :blink: I know we've heard the rumor of a graphics update this summer, but I don't know if the flavors have anything to do with that. Could be wrong though  :biggrin:
That is FALSE
okokokokokok  :bleh:
I wish it would happen though  <_<
current graphics= :thumbdown:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 24, 2009, 10:54:02 PM
Localonthe8s, are you sure the XL was not affected?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Qhnd1PRg0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Qhnd1PRg0#)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 24, 2009, 10:59:27 PM
Localonthe8s, are you sure the XL was not affected?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Qhnd1PRg0#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Qhnd1PRg0#[/url])

There is no narration in the 1 min lfs for the XLs. It's standard for them.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 24, 2009, 11:06:21 PM
There is no narration in the 1 min lfs for the XLs. It's standard for them.
Don't you notice the different flavor though? This is not how the 1 minute was the last time I was in this headend's area  :blink:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: beanboy89 on May 24, 2009, 11:11:12 PM
There is no narration in the 1 min lfs for the XLs. It's standard for them.
Don't you notice the different flavor though? This is not how the 1 minute was the last tme I was in this headend's area  :blink:
I am not completely positive, but I believe that's the way the one-minute XL flavor has always acted when a Weather Bulletin was displayed. The normal one-minute flavor has a 24-Hour Text-based forecast, but since the Weather Bulletin is displayed, there's not enough time for the full text forecast, so the Daypart Forecast is used instead.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 24, 2009, 11:12:08 PM
There is no narration in the 1 min lfs for the XLs. It's standard for them.
Don't you notice the different flavor though? This is not how the 1 minute was the last tme I was in this headend's area  :blink:
I am not completely positive, but I believe that's the way the one-minute XL flavor has always acted when a Weather Bulletin was displayed. The normal one-minute flavor has a 24-Hour Text-based forecast, but since the Weather Bulletin is displayed, there's not enough time for the full text forecast, so the Daypart Forecast is used instead.
You may actually be right. I noticed the 11:08 PM EDT LF was normal as well.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 24, 2009, 11:25:06 PM
Jeremy's and Rob's XLs are narrationless during the 1 min flavours.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Lightning86 on June 17, 2009, 10:01:34 PM
My question is that when is this beta flavor update going to finish?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 17, 2009, 10:22:48 PM
My question is that when is this beta flavor update going to finish?
yeah! Enough with the 1 minute local forecasts already.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 18, 2009, 03:05:52 AM
or at least use these

1:30 tested out like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gICfuyxnBzE&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gICfuyxnBzE&fmt=18#)

a 2:00 min flavor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl363qLx5DU&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl363qLx5DU&fmt=18#)

and maybe a 1:00 flavor during long form programming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJtf3Ykqzww&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJtf3Ykqzww&fmt=18#)

The Videos are Courtesy of Mike
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on June 18, 2009, 12:03:23 PM
Those are extra weird playlists because your forecast products were unavailable for some reason.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on June 18, 2009, 12:16:07 PM
Those are extra weird playlists because your forecast products were unavailable for some reason.
Yeah, my IntelliStar was reset during the 2PM hour that day.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Gil on June 18, 2009, 12:30:45 PM
There's a flavor where it goes from the Metro maps, directly to the 7 day outlook (skipping the 36 hour forecast)....I like that one. :yes:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on June 18, 2009, 12:53:08 PM
I noticed the one minute flavors only show two cycles of the local radar, just like before September 2004!
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 18, 2009, 12:55:13 PM
I noticed the one minute flavors only show two cycles of the local radar, just like before September 2004!

The ones during :08 and :38 during DP don't even show the radar, I don't like that.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 18, 2009, 02:37:24 PM
I noticed the one minute flavors only show two cycles of the local radar, just like before September 2004!

The ones during :08 and :38 during DP don't even show the radar, I don't like that.
I actually like it. It means less spontaneous narration. I don't feel it is necessary to show the radar if there is nothing on it, so long as they make sure to show the sat/rad product.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: sonicdoommario on June 19, 2009, 04:32:56 AM
A local forecast without current conditions? That's like....

**** you NBTWC.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on June 19, 2009, 11:55:28 AM
TWC had been looking into changing the product playlists since before the acquisition, so I doubt this was NBC's idea. I remember one of TWC's ideas were to have traffic information display right after the current conditions before the forecast data, but I guess they scratched that idea.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: phw115wvwx on June 19, 2009, 02:13:49 PM
TWC had been looking into changing the product playlists since before the acquisition, so I doubt this was NBC's idea. I remember one of TWC's ideas were to have traffic information display right after the current conditions before the forecast data, but I guess they scratched that idea.
I think the fact that most people are watching TV at home and not driving around probably led TWC to lower the priority of traffic displays by moving them to the end of the LF.  There are still a few displays like the "outdoor activity forecast" that I find pointless when you have the local text forecast and a daypart forecast.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 21, 2009, 11:28:15 AM
TWC must've discontinued the 1 min product playlists. The normal 2 min lfs on :08 and :38 and 1:30 flavours at :18 and :48 are back.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 21, 2009, 01:16:35 PM
TWC must've discontinued the 1 min product playlists. The normal 2 min lfs on :08 and :38 and 1:30 flavours at :18 and :48 are back.
IMO, I think all LFs should be 2 minutes. There is not enough time to show much of anything during the one minute flavor, and 1:30 is pointless as well.

But yes, I am wondering why I didn't see any one minutes. I see that the line-up changes (i.e. LF opening to metro map at :18 and :48) are still ongoing.

You know, I keep wondering how these changes would look with the sun background Intellistar? Would the 8 city guesses segment transition in from the right as the LF opens? Would the bulletins page transtion in from the right as the LF opens, or would it just fade in?
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on June 21, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
TWC must've discontinued the 1 min product playlists. The normal 2 min lfs on :08 and :38 and 1:30 flavours at :18 and :48 are back.
:dance:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 21, 2009, 02:08:05 PM
TWC must've discontinued the 1 min product playlists. The normal 2 min lfs on :08 and :38 and 1:30 flavours at :18 and :48 are back.
:dance:

That is good news!  :yes: :happy:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on June 22, 2009, 10:40:46 AM
TWC must've discontinued the 1 min product playlists. The normal 2 min lfs on :08 and :38 and 1:30 flavours at :18 and :48 are back.
The one minute flavors are back today.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 22, 2009, 10:44:18 AM
TWC must've discontinued the 1 min product playlists. The normal 2 min lfs on :08 and :38 and 1:30 flavours at :18 and :48 are back.
The one minute flavors are back today.

Darn.  :(
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Zach on June 22, 2009, 11:14:53 AM
TWC must've discontinued the 1 min product playlists. The normal 2 min lfs on :08 and :38 and 1:30 flavours at :18 and :48 are back.
The one minute flavors are back today.
:cry: :cry3:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 22, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
Crap. :angry: Maybe it's a weekend thing.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on June 22, 2009, 12:34:49 PM
Crap. :angry: Maybe it's a weekend thing.
Correct.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 22, 2009, 01:16:46 PM
Crap. :angry: Maybe it's a weekend thing.
Correct.
Yesterday was the first day when, from 10 AM EDT to 2 PM EDT, there was the normal alternation between 90 second and 2 minute flavors on the weekend. Up through yesterday, the fact that it was weekend day did not matter.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: TWCToday on June 23, 2009, 03:58:58 AM
TWC had been looking into changing the product playlists since before the acquisition, so I doubt this was NBC's idea.
From what I heard it was influenced by them.

Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Tyler on June 23, 2009, 10:28:59 AM
Martin, you're correct. However, TWC was looking into the idea prior to NBC's ourchase of the network, it's just TWC never got around to it.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on June 27, 2009, 11:10:28 AM
Crap. :angry: Maybe it's a weekend thing.
Correct.
Apparently not; the one minute flavors are here today on WN.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 27, 2009, 11:33:42 AM
Crap. :angry: Maybe it's a weekend thing.
Correct.
Apparently not; the one minute flavors are here today on WN.

That's what I see too. Why are they doing this? Do they not realize that we're here to see the weather, not commercials? No wonder more and more people including myself are using weather.com. :wacko:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on June 28, 2009, 12:34:58 PM
As the economy suffers companies are looking for more money. Can't blame TWC for that.
Title: Verizon FiOS Headends change
Post by: mattregozo1987 on July 05, 2009, 09:32:31 AM
Noticed that the Current Conditions/Now product no longer starts off the Local on the 8's every hour on the IntelliStar for Verizon FiOS Headends. Instead, the Local Observations will start off the Local on the 8's at :08 and :38 each hour and :28 and :58 each hour, and the Metro Conditions will start off the Local on the 8's at :18 and :48 each hour.
Title: Re: Verizon FiOS Headends change
Post by: Gil on July 05, 2009, 09:40:19 AM
That has nothing to do with FiOS. TWC does it.
Title: Re: Verizon FiOS Headends change
Post by: mattregozo1987 on July 05, 2009, 09:43:09 AM
Oh, never mind. TWC always does it.
Title: Re: Verizon FiOS Headends change
Post by: mattregozo1987 on July 05, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
Here's the example:
Played at 7:08pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWnFlCikENw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWnFlCikENw#)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: TWCToday on July 05, 2009, 10:40:24 AM
Merged
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on July 08, 2009, 01:18:25 PM
I noticed after the product playlist change, the duration of the traffic screens are the same length as the weather-related products (~8 seconds). They used to be 10-12 seconds long, which really ate up room for other products to display.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: mattregozo1987 on July 09, 2009, 06:39:30 PM
Here's what happened when the Current Conditions/Now Product no longer starts off the Local on the 8's for Verizon FiOS Headends.

Played at 6:18pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ4OZSwo3B0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ4OZSwo3B0#)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: mattregozo1987 on July 09, 2009, 06:40:15 PM
Here's another played at 6:28pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0glv1vmK7k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0glv1vmK7k#)
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: mattregozo1987 on July 16, 2009, 08:25:40 AM
I noticed today that the Current Conditions/Now product also starts off the Local on the 8's at :18 and :48 each hour rather than :28 and :58 each hour. The :18 and :48 each hour starts off by appearing Current Conditions/Now product replacing Metro Conditions.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on July 22, 2009, 02:20:29 AM
What happened to the regional maps at :18/:48? I seem to be getting the metro maps now instead.
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 22, 2009, 02:51:53 AM
just got a metro > regional and radar to start with no other maps idk why? i wish they would stop shoving traffic down our throats so much  :pinch:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 15, 2009, 02:23:23 PM
Sorry for the bump, but does anyone know or have a list of all the current IntelliStar flavors (you can exclude the ones for WUWA)? :dunno: It seems like when I watch all these IntelliStar videos on YouTube, the screens shown and their order are never the same thing twice. :no:

Also, was the Local Observations list discontinued? :unsure:
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 15, 2009, 02:37:08 PM
Sorry for the bump, but does anyone know or have a list of all the current IntelliStar flavors (you can exclude the ones for WUWA)? :dunno: It seems like when I watch all these IntelliStar videos on YouTube, the screens shown and their order are never the same thing twice. :no:

Also, was the Local Observations list discontinued? :unsure:

AFAIK, The LO is still shown at :08 and :38 of the hour excluding during Day Planner and Weekend Now
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 15, 2009, 03:05:35 PM
Sorry for the bump, but does anyone know or have a list of all the current IntelliStar flavors (you can exclude the ones for WUWA)? :dunno: It seems like when I watch all these IntelliStar videos on YouTube, the screens shown and their order are never the same thing twice. :no:


I mean, what kind of flavor is this??? :blink: :blink: The screens are all mixed up, and don't seem to flow well IMO. :no: The traffic screens aren't even all together! :wacko:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVPsN1-13-c# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVPsN1-13-c#)

Video Courtesy: Gt1racer
Title: Re: New Product Playlists (flavors) being tested
Post by: Mike M on August 15, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
that's something he made up, it's not a real flavor ;)