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Title: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: curtjr4 on April 14, 2010, 03:43:12 PM
Ok, so I saw that the time was added to the IntelliStar LDL it's self. I think it's a great step up, but, I was wondering... would it be possible to make the LDL come up in full (So the National LDL section wont show), and just send the ad to the IntelliStar and it will show it on the IntelliStars LDL? Since personaly, I think it looks a bit funny with the two different backgrounds  :hmm:

-Curt
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2010, 03:45:30 PM
Ok, so I saw that the time was added to the IntelliStar LDL it's self. I think it's a great step up, but, I was wondering... would it be possible to make the LDL come up in full (So the National LDL section wont show), and just send the ad to the IntelliStar and it will show it on the IntelliStars LDL? Since personaly, I think it looks a bit funny with the two different backgrounds  :hmm:

-Curt
That's what I've been saying all along! But I doubt it will happen.
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: curtjr4 on April 14, 2010, 03:53:22 PM
Ok, so I saw that the time was added to the IntelliStar LDL it's self. I think it's a great step up, but, I was wondering... would it be possible to make the LDL come up in full (So the National LDL section wont show), and just send the ad to the IntelliStar and it will show it on the IntelliStars LDL? Since personaly, I think it looks a bit funny with the two different backgrounds  :hmm:

-Curt
That's what I've been saying all along! But I doubt it will happen.
W00T I'm not alone :happy:
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: hen7713 on April 14, 2010, 03:55:24 PM
I agree, but however I'm sure they use that for advertising. They could at least make the gradients / colors the same.
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: TWCToday on April 14, 2010, 04:44:30 PM
Seriously? Of course they probably thought of this. However the method they use now makes it easier on TWCs end to push advertising. Plus TWC wants to show ads to people not on the IS too. Why send ads to the IS when they are already being shown on screen for legacy STAR viewers?
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: Mike M on April 14, 2010, 05:10:44 PM
Seriously? Of course they probably thought of this. However the method they use now makes it easier on TWCs end to push advertising. Plus TWC wants to show ads to people not on the IS too. Why send ads to the IS when they are already being shown on screen for legacy STAR viewers?
Why not just move the ad back to the upper-right corner like how it was during the chromakey days? This would end the issues altogether, and you can still see the logos just as good.
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: curtjr4 on April 14, 2010, 05:22:11 PM
Seriously? Of course they probably thought of this. However the method they use now makes it easier on TWCs end to push advertising. Plus TWC wants to show ads to people not on the IS too. Why send ads to the IS when they are already being shown on screen for legacy STAR viewers?
Why not just move the ad back to the upper-right corner like how it was during the chromakey days? This would end the issues altogether, and you can still see the logos just as good.
DING DING DING! Thats another efficient solution, thus still meeting the requests for the full LDL, so it doesnt look cheesy with the two backgrounds on the LDLs.
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: tpirfan28 on April 14, 2010, 05:22:19 PM
Seriously? Of course they probably thought of this. However the method they use now makes it easier on TWCs end to push advertising. Plus TWC wants to show ads to people not on the IS too. Why send ads to the IS when they are already being shown on screen for legacy STAR viewers?
Regionalized advertisement.  Not what I would do, but something that could be used in the future.

/Then you could use the space rotating with a full radar!
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2010, 05:52:24 PM
This isn't necessarily a technical problem, so I'm going to move it to general discussion. This issue is pretty much out of the STAR Team's hands, they're just doing what they're told.
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: TWCToday on April 14, 2010, 06:11:32 PM
Seriously? Of course they probably thought of this. However the method they use now makes it easier on TWCs end to push advertising. Plus TWC wants to show ads to people not on the IS too. Why send ads to the IS when they are already being shown on screen for legacy STAR viewers?
Why not just move the ad back to the upper-right corner like how it was during the chromakey days? This would end the issues altogether, and you can still see the logos just as good.
Where do your eyes travel to when you are looking at the TV screen on TWC? MOST viewers are looking at their local forecast on the LDL and are going to view the ad more. I kid you not this plays a roll in how they do stuff. TWC is known for testing every little aspect of their network with study groups. Ads stuck in the local wx will get viewed more with more attention payed to it. Plus they spent money and time creating a brand new ldl with a special place for it. Doubt they want to say.... oops well that didn't work!
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2010, 06:25:14 PM
Seriously? Of course they probably thought of this. However the method they use now makes it easier on TWCs end to push advertising. Plus TWC wants to show ads to people not on the IS too. Why send ads to the IS when they are already being shown on screen for legacy STAR viewers?
Why not just move the ad back to the upper-right corner like how it was during the chromakey days? This would end the issues altogether, and you can still see the logos just as good.
Where do your eyes travel to when you are looking at the TV screen on TWC? MOST viewers are looking at their local forecast on the LDL and are going to view the ad more. I kid you not this plays a roll in how they do stuff. TWC is known for testing every little aspect of their network with study groups. Ads stuck in the local wx will get viewed more with more attention payed to it. Plus they spent money and time creating a brand new ldl with a special place for it. Doubt they want to say.... oops well that didn't work!
What a waste... the nat'l display LDL was supposed to display all kinds of info that I'll bet users liked... i.e. airport delay info, travel cities, almanac, etc. The previous LDL displayed all the CC and forecast data for the main 3 cities necessary :thumbsup:
Plus, they could just sit the ad on top (above) of the LDL. They send the LOT8's ad through to all the Intellistars, so what is wrong with doing that in this case during nat'l broadcasts?
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: Trevor on April 14, 2010, 06:46:58 PM
I've also noticed that sometimes the LDL doesn't show and the ad is still there.......
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: TWCToday on April 14, 2010, 07:03:52 PM
What a waste... the nat'l display LDL was supposed to display all kinds of info that I'll bet users liked... i.e. airport delay info, travel cities, almanac, etc. The previous LDL displayed all the CC and forecast data for the main 3 cities necessary :thumbsup:
Plus, they could just sit the ad on top (above) of the LDL. They send the LOT8's ad through to all the Intellistars, so what is wrong with doing that in this case during nat'l broadcasts?
Why on earth would they want to send them through the Intellistar? TWC has to show the area anyway for satellite and legacy stars. Its just redundant. Almanac on a national ldl is just silly anyway. Most users don't care about that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2010, 07:10:03 PM
Almanac on a national ldl is just silly anyway. Most users don't care about that kind of stuff.
Then why was it added in the first place? Been on the LDL and the LF since the Intellistar was debuted (technically, it has actually been on the LF since the early daze of TWC)... and it's all of a sudden removed just so people can see all kinds of forecast data that NBC thinks they're too lazy to wait a few minutes to see?
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: TWCToday on April 14, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
Almanac on a national ldl is just silly anyway. Most users don't care about that kind of stuff.
Then why was it added in the first place? Been on the LDL and the LF since the Intellistar was debuted (technically, it has actually been on the LF since the early daze of TWC)... and it's all of a sudden removed just so people can see all kinds of forecast data that NBC thinks they're too lazy to wait a few minutes to see?

You can't blame everything on NBC btw :P although it is easy to do so haha. They probably did some study groups and found that kind of information isn't important to most people. If it is then they can wait until the local forecast. Thats exactly why it was removed from the national ldl. People have to wait long enough as it is on the national ldl to see their local forecast so TWC reduced the unneeded stuff. Not putting travel info is an incentive to make people actually watch TWC for their travel info.
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: Zach on April 14, 2010, 07:21:23 PM
I miss the original 40-city loop TWC had on the national LDL. They added the cities that were on the LDA and they also took off Airport Delays, which I found quite useful although in the mornings it would show the major, major hubs with "No Delay" instead of just saying "No Reported Delays" in the entire cycle.
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2010, 07:29:42 PM
I miss the original 40-city loop TWC had on the national LDL. They added the cities that were on the LDA and they also took off Airport Delays, which I found quite useful although in the mornings it would show the major, major hubs with "No Delay" instead of just saying "No Reported Delays" in the entire cycle.
Exactly my point. The LDL was meant to show info not seen on the local forecast and show as much info as possible in that short amount of time. I remember how the airport delays info was intermittently on my LDL on some mornings (back in the early daze), and then when it was permanently added :P

You can't blame everything on NBC btw :P
I can when the graphics were obviously not developed by TWC (who would actually put thought and effort into it)... rather inside a week or so by NBC :P
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: Mike M on April 14, 2010, 09:11:48 PM
Seriously? Of course they probably thought of this. However the method they use now makes it easier on TWCs end to push advertising. Plus TWC wants to show ads to people not on the IS too. Why send ads to the IS when they are already being shown on screen for legacy STAR viewers?
Why not just move the ad back to the upper-right corner like how it was during the chromakey days? This would end the issues altogether, and you can still see the logos just as good.
Where do your eyes travel to when you are looking at the TV screen on TWC? MOST viewers are looking at their local forecast on the LDL and are going to view the ad more. I kid you not this plays a roll in how they do stuff. TWC is known for testing every little aspect of their network with study groups. Ads stuck in the local wx will get viewed more with more attention payed to it. Plus they spent money and time creating a brand new ldl with a special place for it. Doubt they want to say.... oops well that didn't work!
Wow, I just miss the days where networks were more concerned about the purpose of them. Seems all networks care about is money, money, and more money. :/
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: TWCToday on April 14, 2010, 09:26:51 PM
Wow, I just miss the days where networks were more concerned about the purpose of them. Seems all networks care about is money, money, and more money. :/
So true. Sadly the desire to make every penny effects quality
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 14, 2010, 09:31:16 PM
Seriously? Of course they probably thought of this. However the method they use now makes it easier on TWCs end to push advertising. Plus TWC wants to show ads to people not on the IS too. Why send ads to the IS when they are already being shown on screen for legacy STAR viewers?
Why not just move the ad back to the upper-right corner like how it was during the chromakey days? This would end the issues altogether, and you can still see the logos just as good.
Where do your eyes travel to when you are looking at the TV screen on TWC? MOST viewers are looking at their local forecast on the LDL and are going to view the ad more. I kid you not this plays a roll in how they do stuff. TWC is known for testing every little aspect of their network with study groups. Ads stuck in the local wx will get viewed more with more attention payed to it. Plus they spent money and time creating a brand new ldl with a special place for it. Doubt they want to say.... oops well that didn't work!
Wow, I just miss the days where networks were more concerned about the purpose of them. Seems all networks care about is money, money, and more money. :/

As sad as it is, Money makes the world go around.  :hmm:  :(
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: curtjr4 on April 14, 2010, 10:15:49 PM
Wow, I just miss the days where networks were more concerned about the purpose of them. Seems all networks care about is money, money, and more money. :/
So true. Sadly the desire to make every penny effects quality
I blame the fact that the government is doing everything becides helping our horrible economy problem :rolleyes: Helthcare was screwed up, still is, but it didn't even need that much attention like the economy. If the government does something to help the economy, maybe networks will be like they used to, but it clearly isn't the case  :hammer:
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2010, 10:22:02 PM
Let me make one point clear - anything taken out of the LDL (airports, travel cities, etc) was taken out for a reason - because people didn't find it useful! They wouldn't take out something people liked. They're called focus groups people.


I can when the graphics were obviously not developed by TWC (who would actually put thought and effort into it)... rather inside a week or so by NBC :P
They were developed by TWC, not NBC.
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 15, 2010, 05:30:38 AM
I can when the graphics were obviously not developed by TWC (who would actually put thought and effort into it)... rather inside a week or so by NBC :P
They were developed by TWC, not NBC.
Like I said, it's obvious that thought and effort was not put into the development of the new graphics, hence why I noted that this would not have happened without direct influence (in my opinion, force) on part of NBC :yes:
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: Tyler on April 15, 2010, 02:49:09 PM
Where do you see a lack of thought and effort?
Title: Re: LDL Ads (Suggestion)
Post by: TWCToday on April 15, 2010, 05:57:46 PM
I can when the graphics were obviously not developed by TWC (who would actually put thought and effort into it)... rather inside a week or so by NBC :P
They were developed by TWC, not NBC.
Like I said, it's obvious that thought and effort was not put into the development of the new graphics, hence why I noted that this would not have happened without direct influence (in my opinion, force) on part of NBC :yes:
Force? NBC is the parent company now. TWC isn't forced to do anything... they do as they are instructed. These graphics and ideas were worked on for over half a year at least. Why do you say no thought or effort was put into the design? Just because you don't like it?