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Title: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: curtjr4 on September 07, 2012, 05:30:27 PM
Not sure if there is a thread out there already, but here's what I know. TWC is rolling out a software update (sounds like a hardware update as well) March 5th, 2013 to select units, and will be rolling it out nationwide on March 19th, 2013. Here's the statement I got from TWC:

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In an ongoing effort to constantly improve the quality of our products, The Weather Channel is testing a new format of Local on the 8s. We are modernizing our equipment, and this new look is the first phase in building a superior programming model that is compatible with our HD Intellistar 2 and SD Intellistar boxes, delivering an improved customer experience. The testing of the new format will commence Monday, March 5th, with plans to roll out on a permanent basis two weeks later.

Wonder if this means that more changes are ahead... :thinking:
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Eric on September 07, 2012, 08:48:18 PM
Sounds interesting, and I hope this half-year-long wait will be worth it.  I just hope it doesn't mean retooling the local forecasts to make room for more longform.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCmatthew on September 07, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
It will be interesting to see, however I'm a pretty firm believer of the saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCJim on September 07, 2012, 09:10:41 PM
Interesting. Can't wait to see what TWC has in store for the IS and IS2 next year....
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 07, 2012, 09:16:44 PM
This news makes me want to just forward time and make it March already  :bleh:

Thanks Curt for the info.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 07, 2012, 10:52:10 PM
It will be interesting to see, however I'm a pretty firm believer of the saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Graphically, the IntelliStar is terribly broken and desperately needs to be fixed. I've been preaching this for 5 years now.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: curtjr4 on September 07, 2012, 11:16:47 PM
You're welcome, everyone. :)
It will be interesting to see, however I'm a pretty firm believer of the saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Graphically, the IntelliStar is terribly broken and desperately needs to be fixed. I've been preaching this for 5 years now.
Yeah, the IntelliStar's appearance is severely degraded. It's time for a new appearance, as the current graphics package does not fit the TWCs other graphics. Not just that, but I find it to be crammed (just a personal opinion).
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCToday on September 07, 2012, 11:56:58 PM
TWC has intended to redo the IS in the same format as the IS2. The question has always been do they use new equipment because the IS2 architecture is so radically different or do they squeak some more life out of the IS. It sounds like whoever gave that statement clearly works in the PR division as there is barely any details of any changes. I'm also curious what they mean by "new format". Perhaps that just means new design but I suspect we see a bigger push for the l bar type forecasts.

It will be interesting to see, however I'm a pretty firm believer of the saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Graphically, the IntelliStar is terribly broken and desperately needs to be fixed. I've been preaching this for 5 years now.
Why is it "broken"?
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: twcfan68 on September 08, 2012, 12:34:05 AM
I'm very happy to still see the local forecast on TWC, and I guess there is always room for improvement. I'll be curious to see if they use the HD icons or the ones that are currently used on the IS.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 08, 2012, 07:44:50 AM
TWC has intended to redo the IS in the same format as the IS2. The question has always been do they use new equipment because the IS2 architecture is so radically different or do they squeak some more life out of the IS. It sounds like whoever gave that statement clearly works in the PR division as there is barely any details of any changes. I'm also curious what they mean by "new format". Perhaps that just means new design but I suspect we see a bigger push for the l bar type forecasts.

It will be interesting to see, however I'm a pretty firm believer of the saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Graphically, the IntelliStar is terribly broken and desperately needs to be fixed. I've been preaching this for 5 years now.
Why is it "broken"?

I already explained it, I meant it in a metaphorical sense. It's "broken" because it's  graphically bad. Knowing they were planning to go HD the following year (and I'm sure the IS2 had probably been in the works by then) after they released this version of the IS, I would have rather they kept the previous version (while dated) for X years while they made a version that had "some" sort of a connection to the on air graphics or a HD feel itself like that statement seems to infer to above.

I obviously have no idea how much work went into making the graphical version we have now, but when I look at it, it looks like or personally feels like something that didn't have a lot of thought go into it as the first graphical version did. I'm not as critical about how it graphically looks now as I was years ago since I've gotten an HDTV and it looks only a tinsy bit better. My problem was it's boring, bland, and washed out and although the black text was supposed to make it more readily understandable, I think they should have made the blue text a couple shades darker. That was seriously the ONLY thing I liked about this version of the IS, the blue text seemed to compliment the design better and make it somewhat less unappealing. In my personal opinion, I felt they went several steps backwards with this current design layout.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCJim on September 08, 2012, 11:25:52 AM
I wonder if TWC is also planning to do something with the legacy STARs (4000, XL, Junior) or if they are just gonna leave those STAR units alone  :thinking:
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Eric on September 08, 2012, 11:56:06 AM
It will be interesting to see, however I'm a pretty firm believer of the saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Well, if that's the case, we'd all still be watching the WeatherStar III.  :)
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Tyler on September 08, 2012, 11:58:24 AM
How exactly did you obtain this information? I haven't heard anything about this.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: KevOwensby on September 08, 2012, 12:22:04 PM
I know one thing, the icons will be the same across all platforms of TWC. From online, on-air, IS/IS2, and mobile platforms... they will all have the same icons for forecasts and current conditions.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: KevOwensby on September 08, 2012, 02:10:58 PM
This would also probably mean a new Weatherscan version...?  :dunno:
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 08, 2012, 02:21:10 PM
I'm not doubting you or anything, but where's your source?
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: curtjr4 on September 08, 2012, 02:53:00 PM
Source is Weatheraffiliate.com. TWCs affiliates are all registered on here.

I wonder if TWC is also planning to do something with the legacy STARs (4000, XL, Junior) or if they are just gonna leave those STAR units alone  :thinking:
I'm banking that they'll be left alone. They made no mention of legacy units, and it wouldn't really make much sense anymore as they are already so "stripped down" as it is...
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCJim on January 13, 2013, 02:24:53 PM
*Bump*

Are the IS/IS2 updates still being planned in two months?
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 13, 2013, 02:53:33 PM
*Bump*

Are the IS/IS2 updates still being planned in two months?
I think Martin said somewhere around here that they were delaying it slightly.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 13, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
*Bump*

Are the IS/IS2 updates still being planned in two months?
I think Martin said somewhere around here that they were delaying it slightly.

I hope its not delayed, i was really looking forward to the update.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Eric on January 13, 2013, 06:41:40 PM
Considering what little importance TWC places on the local forecasts these days, I'm very surprised that they're even contemplating any major updates... unless, of course, it's to combine more information into an even shorter period of time.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCToday on January 13, 2013, 07:32:19 PM
I've heard nothing new sadly
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 13, 2013, 09:07:07 PM
Given the fewer and Shorter LFs it probably makes sense to not update any of the products for the time being
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 15, 2013, 09:22:40 AM
I've heard nothing new sadly

Hopefully there is a reason why the update is delayed
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Mike M on January 15, 2013, 02:26:14 PM
I've heard nothing new sadly

Hopefully there is a reason why the update is delayed
Probably just bugs and sorts, just like why any other software upgrade would be delayed.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCmatthew on February 18, 2013, 01:12:41 PM
That topic has been taken off of weatheraffiliate.com. Either the update has been delayed, or has been cancelled. Hopefully the latter, since the IntelliStar graphics are fine just they way they are. We wouldn't want the IS's to be too graphics to be too "high tech"/cluttered.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: curtjr4 on February 18, 2013, 09:09:08 PM
That topic has been taken off of weatheraffiliate.com. Either the update has been delayed, or has been cancelled. Hopefully the latter, since the IntelliStar graphics are fine just they way they are. We wouldn't want the IS's to be too graphics to be too "high tech"/cluttered.
It's way too cluttered as it is. I was excited for this update, since the IS was desperately in need of it in my opinion. Oh well. I'm pretty sure it was cancelled.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Eric on February 18, 2013, 09:42:18 PM
What a shame.  :(
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 18, 2013, 09:55:17 PM
That topic has been taken off of weatheraffiliate.com. Either the update has been delayed, or has been cancelled. Hopefully the latter, since the IntelliStar graphics are fine just they way they are. We wouldn't want the IS's to be too graphics to be too "high tech"/cluttered.

Couldn't disagree more. I get your argument about not wanting the IS to be cluttered, I don't either, but I'm baffled about not wanting it to be high tech. That's exactly what it should be and it never has been imo. :no: Looking back, it seems like most of the IS's hype-factor was all because of that crappy HiRAD technology (and the discontinued traffic products) which varies from being OK to downright terrible. I remember some of the complaints about the IS2 was how they made a lot of the animations/transitions all overly fancy and whatnot, we live in a superficial world filled with millions of extremely short attention spans and that's what they like to see.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCJim on February 19, 2013, 01:06:04 AM
Bummer  :(  I was kinda looking forward to the IS graphical updates. I always thought the current IS graphics looked okay anyway, even though they've been around for over five years now  :P
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCToday on February 19, 2013, 01:51:32 PM
There is more of a focus on next generation devices rather than software updates for the current IS.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Mike M on February 20, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Could also be due to the possible phasing out of the full-screen LOT8s products. I mean christ every few months they're cutting back on them more and more.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: TWCToday on February 20, 2013, 10:07:45 PM
Could also be due to the possible phasing out of the full-screen LOT8s products. I mean christ every few months they're cutting back on them more and more.
Not quite yet.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Mike M on February 20, 2013, 10:31:36 PM
Yet? Oh my...
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: twcfan68 on February 20, 2013, 11:14:27 PM
I dread the day when the "yet" happens. As short and vocal the Local Forecast currently is, it's still resemblant of the previous systems. I truly won't recognize TWC when they permanently pull the plug on the full-screen Local Forecast. I hope that's not the case anytime soon.
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 21, 2013, 12:14:29 AM
It will happen eventually might as well enjoy the lfs for as long as they last
Title: Re: IntelliStar I and II Update planned
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 21, 2013, 10:12:38 AM
I won't be totally surprised when the L-Bar returns the LF would be discontinued.