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Title: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 30, 2007, 09:54:38 PM
I've noticed alot of small discussions about LF related things over in the PBS, discussions that really aren't worthy of their own thread. Therefore, to share the wealth a bit, so to speak, I've created this thread. This thread is for all those little discussions that end up in the PBS, and that just aren't important enough for their own thread.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 01, 2007, 12:46:25 AM
Does anyone know where to find the song "Track9" by Fred Gross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSefLoL20g4)?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on December 01, 2007, 08:17:04 AM
Track 9 is Feels Like Before
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 01, 2007, 08:17:16 AM
Derek, i'm pretty sure its a playlist error. Track 9 is an odd title for a song. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 01, 2007, 09:36:02 AM
Thunder, I've edited your post. Don't push me. You won't like the result.  :nono: :nono:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 01, 2007, 10:48:27 AM
Track 9 is Feels Like Before
Thanks Carlos! B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on December 01, 2007, 12:25:46 PM
At 11:58am ET in Central Park, I heard Vince Madison's "Hill Where The Lord Hides".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 01, 2007, 12:59:36 PM
mostpopular, I've put your post in here. Please don't create new threads just to tell us that you've heard a particular song. It's not really necessary now that we have this general LF discussion thread.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 01, 2007, 01:54:07 PM
Thunder, I've edited your post. Don't push me. You won't like the result.  :nono: :nono:
What on earth are you talking about? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 01, 2007, 04:54:00 PM
Has anyone noticed that LF songs sound so much better on TWC than the full version of the song?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 01, 2007, 04:57:40 PM
Has anyone noticed that LF songs sound so much better on TWC than the full version of the song?
yeah. The music sounds better with the lf in the background
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 01, 2007, 04:59:21 PM
Has anyone noticed that LF songs sound so much better on TWC than the full version of the song?
yeah. The music sounds better with the lf in the background
That and the way the song is distorted.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 01, 2007, 05:15:22 PM
i like the time ins. I cant wait for the primetime playlist!!  :thrilled:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 02, 2007, 05:36:15 PM
Anyone know the name of this (http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/OvernightOutlookOpener.mpeg) song in the very beginning of the opener?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 02, 2007, 05:40:08 PM
Anyone know the name of this ([url]http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/OvernightOutlookOpener.mpeg[/url]) song in the very beginning of the opener?

I think that song is "Cloud-9" by Fred Gross. Awhile back I listened to a clip of this song from the iTunes store and compared it to the song in that video and they both sound like they may be the same song.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 02, 2007, 06:15:40 PM
OMG!! I thought that song was Playing in the Cold by Doug Granville!! It's available!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 02, 2007, 06:18:09 PM
Anyone know the name of this ([url]http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/OvernightOutlookOpener.mpeg[/url]) song in the very beginning of the opener?

I think that song is "Cloud-9" by Fred Gross. Awhile back I listened to a clip of this song from the iTunes store and compared it to the song in that video and they both sound like they may be the same song.

I just listened to the entire song on broadjam. It was very close, but not quite the one above.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 02, 2007, 06:29:14 PM
So its not relatred to Playing in the Cold
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on December 02, 2007, 07:10:28 PM
Speaking of Fred Gross, His 4th CD "Weathering the Storm" is available on CDBaby.com, I picked it up on Friday, should get it sometime this week b)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 02, 2007, 07:20:42 PM
Speaking of Fred Gross, His 4th CD "Weathering the Storm" is available on CDBaby.com, I picked it up on Friday, should get it sometime this week b)
Neat. Thanks for the heads-up, Carlos.  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 02, 2007, 07:41:48 PM
Wait so Cloud 9 and the song in the beginning of the clip are the exact same?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 02, 2007, 07:42:48 PM
Wait so Cloud 9 and the song in the beginning of the clip are the exact same?
No. Listen to cloud-9 for yourself.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 02, 2007, 07:46:31 PM
Good grief. If it was fred gross, then the song could've been obtainable <_< :doh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 03, 2007, 12:05:59 AM
If you search for "Samuel Lincoln" on BMI, the name "Lucy Herrmann" comes up, which I'm guessing is Ray Herrmann's wife. I wonder why it's put under his wife's name.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 03, 2007, 09:30:58 PM
Where did you get the clip of the lf with the Doug Granville song?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 03, 2007, 09:33:48 PM
Where did you get the clip of the lf with the Doug Granville song?
I've had that for nearly a year. I found it somewhere on TWCC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 03, 2007, 09:34:17 PM
Hmm. I'm hoping there are more clips with that song
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 06, 2007, 06:01:00 PM
Got a question for someone who knows the answer. Its actually more of a classic TWC question, but there are several people here whom I know know the answer. Back in the mid 90's, several songs (that I know of) by Schonerz & Scott were used. I know one was "I Remember", but what was the other? The reason I asked is because I was at the library looking at the sale materials today and happened across a Windham Hill compilation disc with the song "Daydreams" (or perhaps it was Daydreaming?) by S & S, which really seemed to ring a bell of familiarity to me, though I failed to buy the CD because I wasn't sure.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 06, 2007, 07:26:41 PM
Does anyone remember the TWC name for this (http://www.manpowermusic.com/lo-fi/MPM1.49.mp3) Frank Josephs song? I just can't remember the name...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 06, 2007, 08:49:50 PM
Does anyone remember the TWC name for this ([url]http://www.manpowermusic.com/lo-fi/MPM1.49.mp3[/url]) Frank Josephs song? I just can't remember the name...

I think it's The Passage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 06, 2007, 08:51:08 PM
gil was looking for this
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 06, 2007, 09:01:40 PM
Ah that's right! I forgot for a second there. :wall:

Yeah, Gil loves that song. I can certainly see why.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 06, 2007, 10:42:07 PM
Anyone know the TWC name for this (http://www.manpowermusic.com/lo-fi/MPM1.116.mp3) Frank Josephs song?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on December 07, 2007, 05:32:26 PM
Got a question for someone who knows the answer. Its actually more of a classic TWC question, but there are several people here whom I know know the answer. Back in the mid 90's, several songs (that I know of) by Schonerz & Scott were used. I know one was "I Remember", but what was the other? The reason I asked is because I was at the library looking at the sale materials today and happened across a Windham Hill compilation disc with the song "Daydreams" (or perhaps it was Daydreaming?) by S & S, which really seemed to ring a bell of familiarity to me, though I failed to buy the CD because I wasn't sure.

Yes Gary. You are correct. Daydreams was used, in Nov 95, from the same CD as "I remember". I have the CD, though I cant remember the title off the top of my head :blushing: :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on December 07, 2007, 05:33:27 PM
Anyone know the TWC name for this ([url]http://www.manpowermusic.com/lo-fi/MPM1.116.mp3[/url]) Frank Josephs song?


Under the Stars (incorrectly identified as Northern Lights) used April 04 Primetime
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 07, 2007, 05:37:15 PM
Got a question for someone who knows the answer. Its actually more of a classic TWC question, but there are several people here whom I know know the answer. Back in the mid 90's, several songs (that I know of) by Schonerz & Scott were used. I know one was "I Remember", but what was the other? The reason I asked is because I was at the library looking at the sale materials today and happened across a Windham Hill compilation disc with the song "Daydreams" (or perhaps it was Daydreaming?) by S & S, which really seemed to ring a bell of familiarity to me, though I failed to buy the CD because I wasn't sure.

Yes Gary. You are correct. Daydreams was used, in Nov 95, from the same CD as "I remember". I have the CD, though I cant remember the title off the top of my head :blushing: :wacko:

I didn't see "I Remember" on the track listing of this compilation CD. I'm going to have to go back over to the library and pick that CD up. I hope its still there!  :ninja:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 08, 2007, 08:47:28 PM
Well, I went to the library to day, and theCD was still there so I picked it up! It's a two cd set called Windham Hill Chill 2, and as I thought , the song Daydreams is on there!  :sunglasses:

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: furball on December 08, 2007, 10:19:20 PM
If you search for "Samuel Lincoln" on BMI, the name "Lucy Herrmann" comes up, which I'm guessing is Ray Herrmann's wife. I wonder why it's put under his wife's name.
I think its because he is also reigstered with ASCAP, however BMI does not allow songwriters to belong to multiple organizations,
so he uses his wife's name to be able to use both. Its not uncommon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on December 09, 2007, 12:47:25 PM
Well, I went to the library to day, and theCD was still there so I picked it up! It's a two cd set called Windham Hill Chill 2, and as I thought , the song Daydreams is on there!  :sunglasses:



Glad you found it. I have Windham Hill's "Chill" first two disc set, and it features "Night In The Land" by Nightnoise used in Fall '94. I am the dreamy-new age chill guy :sunglasses: Good music
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 09, 2007, 03:46:14 PM
Yeah i'm more with new age/electroncia rather than jazz
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 09, 2007, 03:50:52 PM
I guess I'm pretty big on New Age too, seeing as most of my favorite artists would fall in that category, i.e. Trammell Starks, Ficara, Peter Buffett, etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 09, 2007, 03:55:20 PM
I guess I'm pretty big on New Age too, seeing as most of my favorite artists would fall in that category, i.e. Trammell Starks, Ficara, Peter Buffett, etc.
Oh i love Trammell and Ficara music!! Are they planning on making more new music?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 09, 2007, 03:58:06 PM
I guess I'm pretty big on New Age too, seeing as most of my favorite artists would fall in that category, i.e. Trammell Starks, Ficara, Peter Buffett, etc.
Oh i love Trammell and Ficara music!! Are they planning on making more new music?

Trammell DID make some new music, and Ficara said she would if TWC showed interest again (which, according to her, they have not).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 09, 2007, 04:07:50 PM
Well TWc should encourage Ficara to make the music. What are trammell's newst tunz?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 09, 2007, 04:10:44 PM
I don't know, because he recently began including them with the 3 CD lf music set and I bought mine years ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 09, 2007, 04:12:55 PM
I don't know, because he recently began including them with the 3 CD lf music set and I bought mine years ago.
Wow trammell sold those cds that long? :shocked:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 09, 2007, 04:14:24 PM
I don't know, because he recently began including them with the 3 CD lf music set and I bought mine years ago.
Wow trammell sold those cds that long? :shocked:

He's been selling them for at least 10 years, IIRC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 09, 2007, 04:17:12 PM
Amazing. I hope he's making a fortune! I just wish there were more artists as kind as Mr.Starks to purchase their lovely music. e.g. Wayne Gerard "Im All About You" <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 09, 2007, 04:17:59 PM
The way I see it, those who want to act like hardasses are only cheating themsleves in the long run.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 09, 2007, 04:18:51 PM
Amazing. I hope he's making a fortune! I just wish there were more artists as kind as Mr.Starks to purchase their lovely music. e.g. Wayne Gerard "Im All About You" <_<
I'm pretty sure Wayne is working on a new CD, and that song is going to be on it. IIRC, many of Wayne Gerard's songs that are available today were marked unavailable when they aired on TWC a few years back (like Heartland).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 09, 2007, 04:25:21 PM
The way I see it, those who want to act like hardasses are only cheating themsleves in the long run.
Absolutely

I cant wait until Wayne releases a new cd with that song in there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 10, 2007, 07:37:42 PM
Does anyone know where i can ryan farish's songs Touch the Sky, Learning to Fly and Elevation? I realized they are no longer in his profile! <_< :(

Perhaps Ryan is releasing a new CD and TWC keeps it confidental by listing "n/a"? I'm not sure. Any opinions?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 11, 2007, 06:56:35 PM
Does anyone know what "Winter Heat" by Jeanne Ricks sounds like?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 11, 2007, 07:29:53 PM
Does anyone know the name of this cool song from March 2003?
http://vicb14.googlepages.com/unknownMarch03.wav
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 11, 2007, 08:08:02 PM
That's "Summer Nights" by Ryan Farish. I believe that song is from the Daydreamer CD, but it could be from the Traveler CD.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 11, 2007, 09:12:22 PM
That's "Summer Nights" by Ryan Farish. I believe that song is from the Daydreamer CD, but it could be from the Traveler CD.
oh great..not another unavailable ryan farish song! <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 18, 2007, 08:58:40 AM
Has there ever been a playlist w/o Christmas music?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 18, 2007, 11:10:20 AM
Not that I'm aware of. AFAIK, they've played some kind of Christmas music each year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 21, 2007, 12:20:40 PM
Has anyone noticed that LF songs sound so much better on TWC than the full version of the song?
I tried decreasing the quality of a Trammell song to 16 KB per second on Movie Maker and increased the volume a bit. This makes the song sound a lot more like how it sounds like on TWC. Try doing that with other songs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 21, 2007, 12:36:38 PM
Has anyone noticed that LF songs sound so much better on TWC than the full version of the song?
I tried decreasing the quality of a Trammell song to 16 KB per second on Movie Maker and increased the volume a bit. This makes the song sound a lot more like how it sounds like on TWC. Try doing that with other songs.
How do you decrease the quality on WMM?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 21, 2007, 12:48:44 PM
How do you decrease the quality on WMM?
When you are ready to save the file, click on "save to my computer" under the Movie Tasks menu (should be on the left side of the screen). After you name the file and choose where to save it to, click Next. There should be a pull down menu next to "other settings" (if it's not there, click on the link that says "show more choices). Click on the menu and choose "AM quality audio (16kbps)." After that, click Next again and the file will be saved to your computer. If you need more help, let me know.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 22, 2007, 11:33:57 AM
Does anyone know where to find "Night Drive" by Timothy Drury? I can't find it anywhere! :angry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 22, 2007, 12:05:56 PM
Does anyone know where to find "Night Drive" by Timothy Drury? I can't find it anywhere! :angry:
That's my favorite Tim Drury song! I cant find it either
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 22, 2007, 01:29:18 PM
For the first time in months, I saw the outdoor activity screen on my IntelliStar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on December 22, 2007, 04:43:35 PM
For the first time in months, I saw the outdoor activity screen on my IntelliStar.
The OAF screen always shows up on the IS on weekends (and when you're out of school for a break). ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 22, 2007, 11:20:13 PM
The OAF screen always shows up on the IS on weekends (and when you're out of school for a break). ;)
It doesn't show often here since my IntelliStar has traffic, plus the frequently shown getaway forecast was recently added.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 23, 2007, 03:09:54 PM
OMG, i just saw an HD lf on the SD channel. :blink: :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 29, 2007, 10:13:30 AM
Anyone know the name of this wonderful song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsMVFFpWHWE
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 29, 2007, 11:37:20 AM
Anyone know the name of this wonderful song? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsMVFFpWHWE[/url]

I hope Steve has a JR clip of The River and SImple Pleasure too! :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 29, 2007, 12:03:02 PM
I like that song too. I have an IntelliStar clip with that song uploaded on YouTube.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 29, 2007, 12:06:07 PM
I like that song too. I have an IntelliStar clip with that song uploaded on YouTube.
Don't you think it sounds like Kim Hansen?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 29, 2007, 12:12:37 PM
Don't you think it sounds like Kim Hansen?
Yeah it does. It sound very similar to Talk to Me, which is by Kim Hansen. If only we had the playlist from that month. It would have been a lot easier to identify it. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 29, 2007, 12:15:32 PM
Maybe we could ask someone at TWC to identify it for us. Like maybe that person everyone emails for the playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 29, 2007, 12:16:44 PM
I tried emailing Chris Hoitsma (or whatever his name is) to identify the alien song awhile back. He never responded.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 29, 2007, 12:55:23 PM
I talked to wxmancanada, and he said the November 2006, and February and April 2007 playlists were lost <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 29, 2007, 01:12:54 PM
This list has all of Kim Hansen's 100 songs. It is a latin sounding song so maybe if any of her song titles sounds latin, that might be it!
http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&fromrow=1&torow=25&querytype=WriterID&cae=422004717&affiliation=BMI&keyid=803587&keyname=HANSEN%20KIM
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 29, 2007, 01:57:08 PM
I talked to wxmancanada, and he said the November 2006, and February and April 2007 playlists were lost <_<
Yeah, I remember him saying that awhile back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 29, 2007, 02:00:20 PM
Kim Hansen wrote 100 songs? Most of them are likely the songs he wrote with the rest of that Todd Newton band. AFAIK, only six songs by Kim were used on TWC.

I noticed that "Just We Two" is on his BMI account. I spoke to Kim about this song, though, and he said he doesn't recognize it. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 29, 2007, 03:34:29 PM
Yes i saw Coney Island and Talk to Me as well. I also notice every single Ryan Farish song on BMI too.

How can an artist not recognize their own song? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 30, 2007, 12:59:32 PM
Anyone know the name of this wonderful song? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsMVFFpWHWE[/url]

I spoke to Kim about this song, and I can now confirm that this song is indeed by him. Don't know the name yet, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 30, 2007, 01:24:43 PM
Did he say its done by him?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 30, 2007, 03:23:49 PM
Did he say its done by him?
That's what Mike just said. Kim told Mike he composed the song, but Mike doesn't know the name.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 30, 2007, 05:39:09 PM
I thought if the song title sounded latinish, then that would be it but obviously there are no such song titles that sound latinish
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 30, 2007, 05:50:21 PM
Just because a song sounds latinish doesn't necessarily mean it has to have a latinish name. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 31, 2007, 10:44:43 AM
If I had to guess, I'd say the song was called "Lee Latin".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 31, 2007, 11:30:39 AM
yeah the song must be "Lee Latin" by Kim Hansen
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 31, 2007, 11:58:48 AM
let's continue our discussion about Glen Mcnulty :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 31, 2007, 12:01:17 PM
Does anyone have a satellite LF of the Glenn Mcnulty song?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 31, 2007, 12:07:01 PM
Does anyone have a satellite LF of the Glenn Mcnulty song?
i dont but TWCRoadFan has an intellistar video where u can hear most of the song w/o narration
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 31, 2007, 07:19:37 PM
The only new information I could find on Glen was that his only CD was released by Sonic Emerald Publishing...who doesn't exist anymore.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 31, 2007, 08:20:46 PM
I know I came across his MySpace at some point, despite the fact that someone in here said that he didn't have one.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 31, 2007, 08:56:18 PM
Someone said the song will be available in Glen's new CD. IIRC, Glen's only CD is "Raw Silk"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 31, 2007, 11:26:33 PM
Glenn isn't planning to release a new CD. The only way would be to email him for the song, but so far, I haven't found his email. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2008, 11:12:47 AM
Glenn isn't planning to release a new CD. The only way would be to email him for the song, but so far, I haven't found his email. :(
maybe you can find in BMI?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 01, 2008, 11:13:33 AM
Glenn isn't planning to release a new CD. The only way would be to email him for the song, but so far, I haven't found his email. :(
maybe you can find in BMI?
It is in BMI.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2008, 11:14:15 AM
Glenn isn't planning to release a new CD. The only way would be to email him for the song, but so far, I haven't found his email. :(
maybe you can find in BMI?
It is in BMI.
his email?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 01, 2008, 11:15:33 AM
Glenn isn't planning to release a new CD. The only way would be to email him for the song, but so far, I haven't found his email. :(
maybe you can find in BMI?
It is in BMI.
his email?
Oh, I thought you meant the song. No, his email is not on his account.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2008, 11:23:53 AM
I could purchase the song with a license but who has $750?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 01, 2008, 11:29:20 AM
I could purchase the song with a license but who has $750?
You can only get a license if you're getting the song for a business.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2008, 11:30:39 AM
Not for personal use? Why?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 01, 2008, 11:43:28 AM
Not for personal use? Why?
I dunno. Ask BMI.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2008, 11:45:25 AM
I also notice that TWC gets their most of their playlist selections from BMI. Many are retitled so basically its BMI who retitled the songs, not TWC ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 01, 2008, 11:54:11 AM
TWC gets all their music from BMI.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 01, 2008, 01:02:29 PM
TWC gets all their music from BMI.
But aren't there some TWC artists that don't have a BMI account?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2008, 01:44:55 PM
TWC gets all their music from BMI.
But aren't there some TWC artists that don't have a BMI account?
that's what i thought. :huh: Joe Laskota, IIRC, didnt have a BMI account.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 01, 2008, 04:37:48 PM
TWC gets all their music from BMI.
But aren't there some TWC artists that don't have a BMI account?
There are also some artists that send their music directly to TWC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 01, 2008, 05:14:33 PM
alright, let's settle some rumors shall we?

No, TWC DOES NOT get their music from BMI in any way. They get their music directly from the artists, who consequently happen to be members of BMI. Secondly, BMI does not retitle the songs. The artists do that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2008, 07:30:59 PM
Thanks for the updates Gary! :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: furball on January 02, 2008, 10:52:58 AM
Right, TWC gets the music from the artists, then if they have BMI, TWC licenses them there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 02, 2008, 11:09:40 AM
does TWC make money with the lf music?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2008, 11:58:08 AM
Right, TWC gets the music from the artists, then if they have BMI, TWC licenses them there.

No, they have nothing at all to do with BMI. :no:

And no, TWC doesn't make any money.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 02, 2008, 01:12:55 PM
Have you ever been to TWC HQ Gary?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2008, 01:13:34 PM
No I haven't, though I'd love to go there. What does that have to do with anything though?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 02, 2008, 01:14:29 PM
No I haven't, though I'd love to go there. What does that have to do with anything though?  :unsure:
because you know so much! You're also very good with my Ryan Farish song IDs!  :worship:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2008, 01:23:01 PM
Just because I know alot about TWC doesn't mean I've been there. Many of us are quite smart about TWC stuff, and I'm willing to bet that most of us have never set foot on TWC property.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 02, 2008, 01:31:10 PM
Just because I know alot about TWC doesn't mean I've been there. Many of us are quite smart about TWC stuff, and I'm willing to bet that most of us have never set foot on TWC property.
very true and those who have been to TWC property dont know much about the channel <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 02, 2008, 03:01:16 PM
Some of them know quite a bit. The problem, though, is that things are very tight at TWC, so when you go there there's not much chance to explore things and learn about things.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 02, 2008, 04:02:44 PM
Some of them know quite a bit. The problem, though, is that things are very tight at TWC, so when you go there there's not much chance to explore things and learn about things.
that sucks. I'm still praying one day that i can visit the STAR and music department. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 02, 2008, 06:05:09 PM
I'm hoping that I'll get to see another STAR before they're all upgraded.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 02, 2008, 07:37:28 PM
I'm hoping that I'll get to see another STAR before they're all upgraded.
why dont you go to Provo, UT out of Salt Lake City? They have an XL or go to Taos, NM to see their 4000.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 02, 2008, 08:32:18 PM
You would have to have a better reason to go to somewhere other than just to see another STAR unit. Otherwise it would just be a waste of money.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 02, 2008, 08:35:39 PM
It costs money to visit there?

I really like to contact TWC about those possible Kim Hansen songs and the alein song
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 02, 2008, 09:13:04 PM
The only person on TWCC that I know of who visited the TWC studios (besides the STAR team of course) was Jae. I believe you have to work at a company that is affiliated with TWC in some way in order to visit there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 03, 2008, 10:02:37 AM
Although it's unlikely, I'm hoping the hotel we're staying at in Denver will have another STAR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 03, 2008, 10:58:33 AM
The only person on TWCC that I know of who visited the TWC studios (besides the STAR team of course) was Jae. I believe you have to work at a company that is affiliated with TWC in some way in order to visit there.
Wow, whats with all the security? :wacko:

Although it's unlikely, I'm hoping the hotel we're staying at in Denver will have another STAR.
Its possible Derek if you know the cable company. Kevin had a 4000 in NYC!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 03, 2008, 11:16:17 AM
The only person on TWCC that I know of who visited the TWC studios (besides the STAR team of course) was Jae. I believe you have to work at a company that is affiliated with TWC in some way in order to visit there.
Wow, whats with all the security? :wacko:

Although it's unlikely, I'm hoping the hotel we're staying at in Denver will have another STAR.
Its possible Derek if you know the cable company. Kevin had a 4000 in NYC!

What's with the security is that there are lots of crazys and loonies out there, so they've got to keep things tight to prevent any of those crazys from doing any harm to anyone in the studio.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 03, 2008, 11:17:09 AM
I hate this modern day in age. Back in the 80s and 90s, you didnt have to worry about the terrorists or 9/11 or bombings <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 03, 2008, 11:21:07 AM
It really has nothing to do with terrorists or 9/11. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 03, 2008, 11:28:05 AM
they've always been this secure?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 03, 2008, 11:45:35 AM
No, I'm pretty sure they used to be a bit more lax in the earlier days, but as time as gone on and they have become more popular, they've had to tighten things.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 03, 2008, 11:47:42 AM
No, I'm pretty sure they used to be a bit more lax in the earlier days, but as time as gone on and they have become more popular, they've had to tighten things.
Oh, that seems much more logical. I liked the studio setup in the early days. There was carpeting on the floors and a big main studio for forecasting and simple maps. Now its huge with a bunch of studios,  more complex structures, and computers everywhere. And boy talk about bad management...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on January 04, 2008, 12:21:10 AM
How is that bad management? They have to keep up with their growth.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 04, 2008, 09:43:46 AM
How is that bad management? They have to keep up with their growth.
any new lf music yet?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 04, 2008, 11:11:31 AM
How is that bad management? They have to keep up with their growth.

I was gonna say the same thing, but well..you know..some things are better off left alone.  :lol: :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 04, 2008, 02:43:09 PM
no that's not true <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 04, 2008, 03:34:10 PM
Whats not true?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 05, 2008, 03:53:01 PM
I dont know i forgot :wall:

I emailed TWC on why they didnt start new music and i asked them if i can assemble a playlist for them.

It would be a true miracle if i ever get a reply :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 05, 2008, 03:55:05 PM
I dont know i forgot :wall:

I emailed TWC on why they didnt start new music and i asked them if i can assemble a playlist for them.

It would be a true miracle if i ever get a reply :rolleyes:

It would be even more of a miracle if they told you you could assemble a playlsit for them.  :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 05, 2008, 04:00:29 PM
yeah i know. I can't wait!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 05, 2008, 09:02:31 PM
Were there any STAR outages yesterday?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 05, 2008, 09:31:04 PM
Were there any STAR outages yesterday?
Not really an outage, but my IntelliStar failed to queue a few times, and there were some other strange occurrences.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 05, 2008, 09:34:08 PM
Were there any STAR outages yesterday?
Not really an outage, but my IntelliStar failed to queue a few times, and there were some other strange occurrences.
Did you eever get a satellite LF without any LDL?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 05, 2008, 09:43:56 PM
Were there any STAR outages yesterday?
Not really an outage, but my IntelliStar failed to queue a few times, and there were some other strange occurrences.
Did you eever get a satellite LF without any LDL?
Yes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 06, 2008, 11:39:20 AM
Did you eever get a satellite LF without any LDL?
I had an "outage" yesterday where no LDL appreared on the sat lf
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 06, 2008, 10:00:14 PM
Is it true that 4000s and juniors don't see an ID at :57 anymore?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 06, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
Is it true that 4000s and juniors don't see an ID at :57 anymore?
I heard that Juniors don't (or least not on a regular basis), but I don't know about the 4000.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 08, 2008, 10:00:09 PM
Anyone know the name of this song? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNK5YuH8df4) It's been unidentified for over a year now...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 09, 2008, 06:19:52 AM
Anyone know the name of this song? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNK5YuH8df4[/url]) It's been unidentified for over a year now...

It sounds a lot like Rippingtons, Russ Freeman, or Patrick Yandall. It doesn't match with any of the songs I've looked through by those artists, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 09, 2008, 10:17:20 AM
LOL i was watching that same video yesterday. It's probably by Samuel Lincoln
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 09, 2008, 10:52:26 AM
Anyone know the name of this song? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNK5YuH8df4[/url]) It's been unidentified for over a year now...

It sounds a lot like Rippingtons, Russ Freeman, or Patrick Yandall. It doesn't match with any of the songs I've looked through by those artists, though.

Its not Rippingtons or Russ Freeman , I'm certain.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 09, 2008, 07:19:31 PM
Jacob Archer's album Urban Rain, is to be released this month! :thrilled:

Now i can get the songs hopefully on itunes as well
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 10, 2008, 11:30:09 AM
Does anyone know the name of this nice light rock song that is both playing in the daytime and primetime list?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 18, 2008, 09:01:43 PM
Has anyone found any info on the artist "Kathy Ball", whom has been frequently played on TWC lately?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 18, 2008, 09:04:26 PM
Has anyone found any info on the artist "Kathy Ball", whom has been frequently played on TWC lately?
According to BMI she has only 3 works performed
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 18, 2008, 09:06:55 PM
Has anyone found any info on the artist "Kathy Ball", whom has been frequently played on TWC lately?
According to BMI she has only 3 works performed
Have you found any leads on her?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 18, 2008, 09:07:53 PM
What's a lead?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 18, 2008, 09:10:35 PM
What's a lead?
Information.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 18, 2008, 09:14:35 PM
i cant find anything on google about her :angry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on January 18, 2008, 09:16:00 PM
i tryed msn&yahoo
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 19, 2008, 11:35:07 AM
For those of you who like the song "Pressing On" by Yvonne Ayers and noticed that shadyjay removed the clip, I ripped the clip (http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/PressingOn-YvonneAyers.mp3) awhile back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 19, 2008, 11:54:36 AM
For those of you who like the song "Pressing On" by Yvonne Ayers and noticed that shadyjay removed the clip, I ripped the clip ([url]http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/PressingOn-YvonneAyers.mp3[/url]) awhile back.

why did he remove the clip? <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 19, 2008, 05:35:34 PM
What does the tide screen on the 3000 look like?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 19, 2008, 05:39:23 PM
What does the tide screen on the 3000 look like?

Looks pretty much like the one on the Jr.

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2726/snapshot20080119173700hn6.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 19, 2008, 05:40:25 PM
What does the tide screen on the 3000 look like?

Looks pretty much like the one on the Jr.

([url]http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2726/snapshot20080119173700hn6.jpg[/url])

Awesome! Just what I was looking for! :thrilled: :worship:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 19, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
The 3000 looks just like the jr. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on January 19, 2008, 05:53:33 PM
The 3000 looks just like the jr. :blink:
Really? I hadn't noticed. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 19, 2008, 05:54:50 PM
The 3000 looks just like the jr. :blink:
Really? I hadn't noticed. :P
i bet you i have the wxstar 4000 in HD :rofl2: :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 19, 2008, 05:59:47 PM
The 3000 looks just like the jr. :blink:
At first glance, yes. But if you think about it, no.
1. The fonts are different
2. The ad crawl on the 3000 cuts off before it goes off screen
3. The 3000 is much darker than the junior
4. The 3000 has been discontinued
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 19, 2008, 06:00:27 PM
Which is better, the 3000 or junior?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 19, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
Which is better, the 3000 or junior?
Better in what way?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 19, 2008, 06:05:08 PM
in preference?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 19, 2008, 06:07:12 PM
I personally would prefer the 3000, since it has a lot of history with it. Most other people would prefer the 3000 over the junior because they grew up with it or for the same reason I like it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 19, 2008, 07:04:19 PM
I personally would prefer the 3000, since it has a lot of history with it. Most other people would prefer the 3000 over the junior because they grew up with it or for the same reason I like it.
me2. I wish the 3000 came back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 05:43:18 PM
News from Jacob Archer:

"My CD will be released as soon as I get the duplication complete which should be this week. I will post a message when I will definitely have it available. Thanks for the link."

I will ask him where to get the CD! B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 20, 2008, 06:21:00 PM
News from Jacob Archer:

"My CD will be released as soon as I get the duplication complete which should be this week. I will post a message when I will definitely have it available. Thanks for the link."

I will ask him where to get the CD! B)

You'll likely have to order it directly from him. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 20, 2008, 07:20:54 PM
Does anyone have footage of what the 3000 showed on the ID screen in 2004?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 07:50:56 PM
Does anyone have footage of what the 3000 showed on the ID screen in 2004?
i dont think i ever saw footage like that. I have only seen 3 STAR 3000 videos!

Is there video of a Junior's station ID screen?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 20, 2008, 07:52:59 PM
Does anyone have footage of what the 3000 showed on the ID screen in 2004?

i dont think i ever saw footage like that. I have only seen 3 STAR 3000 videos!

Is there video of a Junior's station ID screen?

The junior doesn't show a cable provider, ID, or a channel. It simply says "NewspaperL 53130" or "Radio 53140" I was wondering if the 3000 did that as well.

EDIT: You can see some of it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64cwbvhC-q4) at about 6 minutes in the video.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 20, 2008, 08:05:41 PM
Does anyone have footage of what the 3000 showed on the ID screen in 2004?

i dont think i ever saw footage like that. I have only seen 3 STAR 3000 videos!

Is there video of a Junior's station ID screen?

The junior doesn't show a cable provider, ID, or a channel. It simply says "NewspaperL 53130" or "Radio 53140" I was wondering if the 3000 did that as well.

EDIT: You can see some of it here ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64cwbvhC-q4[/url]) at about 6 minutes in the video.

The "Newspaper L" thing only started happening recently, maybe within the past 12 months. I highly doubt the 3000 ever showed that. I'm willing to bet the 3000's ID hasn't changed since the late 1980s/early 1990s.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 20, 2008, 08:06:55 PM
Does anyone have footage of what the 3000 showed on the ID screen in 2004?

i dont think i ever saw footage like that. I have only seen 3 STAR 3000 videos!

Is there video of a Junior's station ID screen?

The junior doesn't show a cable provider, ID, or a channel. It simply says "NewspaperL 53130" or "Radio 53140" I was wondering if the 3000 did that as well.

EDIT: You can see some of it here ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64cwbvhC-q4[/url]) at about 6 minutes in the video.

The "Newspaper L" thing only started happening recently, maybe within the past 12 months. I highly doubt the 3000 ever showed that. I'm willing to bet the 3000's ID hasn't changed since the late 1980s/early 1990s.

Shaun has video of a junior in March 2006 showing the NewspaperL thing. Would 3000s show a cable provider logo, ID, and a channel?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 20, 2008, 08:15:17 PM
Does anyone have footage of what the 3000 showed on the ID screen in 2004?

i dont think i ever saw footage like that. I have only seen 3 STAR 3000 videos!

Is there video of a Junior's station ID screen?

The junior doesn't show a cable provider, ID, or a channel. It simply says "NewspaperL 53130" or "Radio 53140" I was wondering if the 3000 did that as well.

EDIT: You can see some of it here ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64cwbvhC-q4[/url]) at about 6 minutes in the video.

The "Newspaper L" thing only started happening recently, maybe within the past 12 months. I highly doubt the 3000 ever showed that. I'm willing to bet the 3000's ID hasn't changed since the late 1980s/early 1990s.

Shaun has video of a junior in March 2006 showing the NewspaperL thing. Would 3000s show a cable provider logo, ID, and a channel?

I doubt the 3000 could ever show a cable company graphical logo. My guess it still had this layout in 2004:

(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7957/snapshot20080120201314gi7.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 08:16:22 PM
that looks ancient! I wish the 3000 was still here today :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on January 20, 2008, 08:16:33 PM
I doubt the 3000 could ever show a cable company graphical logo. My guess it still had this layout in 2004:

([url]http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7957/snapshot20080120201314gi7.jpg[/url])

Yeah, I don't think the Jrs and 3000s have the capability of using graphics. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 20, 2008, 08:20:40 PM
The only graphics I ever saw on the 3000 were the occasional background graphics.  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on January 20, 2008, 08:22:51 PM
The only graphics I ever saw on the 3000 were the occasional background graphics.  ;)
However, those weren't generated by the 3000. They were displayed by TWC on the "satellite LF".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 20, 2008, 08:27:37 PM
The only graphics I ever saw on the 3000 were the occasional background graphics.  ;)
However, those weren't generated by the 3000. They were displayed by TWC on the "satellite LF".

No, I'm talking about the illustrated backgrounds that were occasionally used on the regular LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on January 20, 2008, 08:28:57 PM
No, I'm talking about the illustrated backgrounds that were occasionally used on the regular LF.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Those backgrounds were put on the national feed during the LF, and the 3000's text was overlayed over that. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 08:29:06 PM
How come the 3000 and JR never display icons or maps?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 20, 2008, 08:30:11 PM
How come the 3000 and JR never display icons or maps?
Because they weren't designed to, nor do they have the ability to do so.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 08:31:11 PM
Is there a list of cities that currently have the Junior?

I know Penn State, Rutgers, and a couple other places have 'em
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 20, 2008, 08:32:49 PM
No, I'm talking about the illustrated backgrounds that were occasionally used on the regular LF.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Those backgrounds were put on the national feed during the LF, and the 3000's text was overlayed over that. :yes:

Ah, I see what your saying now.  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 20, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
If you look at the very beginning of this video (http://www.twctodayforums.com/7905/2004%2010-28%201028pm%203000%20Dan%20Crawley.wmv), you can see that there is a video with the 3000 id screen. Does anyone have that video?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 20, 2008, 08:35:37 PM
I don't think Dan ever contributed that. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 20, 2008, 08:36:18 PM
I don't think Dan ever contributed that. :no:
Oh that's Dan's video? I could've sworn he lived in Chicago. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on January 20, 2008, 08:37:16 PM
Oh that's Dan's video? I could've sworn he lived in Chicago. :unsure:
It's a different Dan. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 20, 2008, 08:37:33 PM
I don't think Dan ever contributed that. :no:
Oh that's Dan's video? I could've sworn he lived in Chicago. :unsure:

As Stephen said, different Dan.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 08:38:00 PM
which Dan?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 20, 2008, 08:38:25 PM
Dan Crawley. His TWCC name is dannyc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 20, 2008, 08:38:40 PM
Oh that's Dan's video? I could've sworn he lived in Chicago. :unsure:
It's a different Dan. ;)
Hehe... I knew that... :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on January 20, 2008, 08:38:56 PM
which Dan?
I believe this Dan lived in North Carolina, IIRC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 20, 2008, 08:39:20 PM
Oh that's Dan's video? I could've sworn he lived in Chicago. :unsure:
It's a different Dan. ;)
Hehe... I knew that... :whistling:

Suuuuuree.  :rofl2: :rofl2:  :P

Yep Stephen, you are correct.  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 20, 2008, 08:39:53 PM
Dan Crawley. His TWCC name is dannyc.

Actually his username is Dan (http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/index.php?showuser=72). dannyc (http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/index.php?showuser=411) is someone else.

edit: fixed messy BBCode.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 08:40:48 PM
Oh that Dan has an XL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 20, 2008, 08:41:18 PM
Dan Crawley. His TWCC name is dannyc.

Actually his username is Dan ([url]http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/index.php?showuser=72[/url]). dannyc ([url]http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/index.php?showuser=411[/url]) is someone else.

edit: fixed messy BBCode.


Wow, so many Dan's.  :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 08:44:54 PM
Does anyone have any clips from Primetime or overnight July 2005?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on January 20, 2008, 09:13:33 PM
Does anyone have the current IntelliSTAR background, or at least something similar? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 09:18:40 PM
Does anyone have the current IntelliSTAR background, or at least something similar? :unsure:
:)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on January 20, 2008, 09:20:11 PM
:)
I meant a blank background. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 09:20:52 PM
:)
I meant a blank background. ;)
oh i dont. Sorry :(

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 20, 2008, 09:23:36 PM
Does anyone have the current IntelliSTAR background, or at least something similar? :unsure:

Here's the closest I've been able to recreate:

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7906/intellistarv2backgroundnf8.png)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on January 20, 2008, 09:48:27 PM
Thanks, Billy. B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2008, 10:04:33 PM
Jacob Archer said the CD will be available in CDbaby.com next week :thrilled:

Also it will be in itunes as soon as it comes up
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 21, 2008, 06:39:57 PM
Does ayone know where i can get the song "Pleasant Days" by Bobby Love?

Yeah it played in 99, dont start :P :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 21, 2008, 06:42:30 PM
Its not available. For that reason, since I have it, I will send it over to you. But ONLY because its not readily available otherwise.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 21, 2008, 06:43:35 PM
Its not available. For that reason, since I have it, I will send it over to you. But ONLY because its not readily available otherwise.
Thanks. Yeah its one of the unavailable songs unfortunately <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 21, 2008, 06:44:01 PM
Is Terry Coleman's music available (particularly Cool Breeze and Just Groovin')?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 21, 2008, 06:45:01 PM
Is Terry Coleman's music available (particularly Cool Breeze and Just Groovin')?
i can't seem to find his music anywhere :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 21, 2008, 06:47:35 PM
Is Terry Coleman's music available (particularly Cool Breeze and Just Groovin')?

Terry Coleman has a Myspace which has several songs from his Soccole Music album. The only one familiar to us is Cool Breeze.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 21, 2008, 09:05:25 PM
I'm under the impression that the arabian song from February 2007 might actually be from an artist called John Brighton. His music is playing this month too. He has one song called" Arabia Instrumental". Interesting
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&keyID=6455151&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 21, 2008, 09:12:58 PM
That song is actually "El Sueno de la Arana Roja" by David Becker, from his Leaving Argentina album. It's available in many places, including iTunes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 21, 2008, 09:14:40 PM
That song is actually "El Sueno de la Arana Roja" by David Becker, from his Leaving Argentina album.

which one. the arabian song from this clip? http://youtube.com/watch?v=8FR8H4hpQgY
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 21, 2008, 09:15:12 PM
which one. the arabian song from this clip? [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=8FR8H4hpQgY[/url]

Yes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 21, 2008, 09:16:53 PM
OH MY GOD!!!! IT IS!!!

THANK YOU MIKE
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ESumma on January 22, 2008, 01:52:11 AM
There was an outage starting around 8PM on the 21st and still lasting until at least 2:00AM on the 22nd.  The outage had The Weather Channel completely out with the exception of a steady repeat of the national forecasts default (radar, city forecasts, etc.) and no music until around 1:10AM, which the Trammell Starks playlist came into play.  My Comcast Digital Cable WeatherScan also was in disarray as well (nothing except for a frozen crawl and empty blue screens until around 1AM).  It eventually came back to be relatively normal at 1AM, but still had local data that was missing on the left side info bar and glitchy feed.  It was great to hear Trammell's music though. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on January 22, 2008, 05:49:32 PM
That song is actually "El Sueno de la Arana Roja" by David Becker, from his Leaving Argentina album. It's available in many places, including iTunes.

A second song from that album "Racin' Through the Andes" (track 7) was used in the same playlist as the arabian song ( I believe it was 11/06)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 22, 2008, 07:05:05 PM
That song is actually "El Sueno de la Arana Roja" by David Becker, from his Leaving Argentina album. It's available in many places, including iTunes.

A second song from that album "Racin' Through the Andes" (track 7) was used in the same playlist as the arabian song ( I believe it was 11/06)
the arabian song played in Feb 2007.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 24, 2008, 05:30:35 PM
Would the junior show a tan scroll for a flood watch or a wind advisory?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 24, 2008, 05:38:05 PM
Would the junior show a tan scroll for a flood watch or a wind advisory?
no
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 25, 2008, 02:17:29 PM
Is the 4000 ir Junior newer?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 25, 2008, 02:18:43 PM
The junior is newer. In fact, I'm pretty sure the junior came out the year I was born. The 4000 came out in 1990, IIRC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 25, 2008, 02:19:41 PM
I seen saw many 4000 videos from the 90s. Was the Junior and 3000 less common beack then? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 25, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
I seen saw many 4000 videos from the 90s. Was the Junior and 3000 less common beack then? :unsure:
The 3000 was pretty common in the late 80's. The junior was more of an alternative to more expensive STARs like the 4000 and later the XL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 25, 2008, 02:23:01 PM
HOw much does it cost to keep a JR compared to the IS and XL?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 25, 2008, 02:24:56 PM
HOw much does it cost to keep a JR compared to the IS and XL?
I don't know the exact cost, but it's WAYYYY cheaper.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 25, 2008, 02:25:41 PM
Then more cable companies should be implementin' the Junior!!!! :angry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 25, 2008, 02:27:08 PM
Then more cable companies should be implementin' the Junior!!!! :angry:
They probably don't since it's all text based, and not many people would be interested in a text based LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 25, 2008, 02:29:58 PM
I wish my college and hospital would have the Junior. I heard Rutgers University has a weatherstar 4000 from Kevin K?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 25, 2008, 02:30:37 PM
I wish my college and hospital would have the Junior. I heard Rutgers University has a weatherstar 4000 from Kevin K?
I think Rutgers has a junior.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 25, 2008, 02:32:33 PM
I think The Dalles, OR has an XL. SOmeone posted a youtube clip featuring CrapVentures with the XL LDL. Too bad ther's no lf and it was tv tuner quality! <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 25, 2008, 02:40:22 PM
HOw much does it cost to keep a JR compared to the IS and XL?
Much cheaper. The Junior is $500, where as the XL is $6,500. I don't know the cost of the IntelliStar, but it's probably cheaper than the other Stars (except the Junior) since it uses PC-based technology.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 25, 2008, 02:42:22 PM
The Junior is only 500? Get out! My VCR costs more money!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 25, 2008, 05:20:38 PM
A song on BMI costs more than that!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 25, 2008, 05:30:59 PM
A song on BMI costs more than that!
I can ask my brother to license it. He told me had one :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 25, 2008, 05:34:47 PM
A song on BMI costs more than that!
I can ask my brother to license it. He told me had one :D
License what?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 25, 2008, 05:35:37 PM
license a song, silly!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 26, 2008, 01:32:22 PM
a new info about Jeanne Ricks new CD?

She denied my friend request!! :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 27, 2008, 04:14:55 PM
I heard "Along the Way" by Ryan Farish at the pet store today!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 28, 2008, 07:03:26 PM
I heard "Along the Way" by Ryan Farish at the pet store today!
i dont like that song, too cheery :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 31, 2008, 07:25:49 PM
Is there a name for the computer that shows the satellite LF?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 31, 2008, 08:07:48 PM
Is there a name for the computer that shows the satellite LF?
I believe it's run by a computer with WSI software, but I don't know if it has an "official" name.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 31, 2008, 08:24:36 PM
HOw does the WSI software look like?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 31, 2008, 08:50:09 PM
This is the first time I've ever seen a junior actually show what it's supposed to.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 31, 2008, 08:57:52 PM
What's RTC TV? WHere did you find the clip?

So its not graphics compatible!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 01, 2008, 07:41:31 PM
The February 2008 playlist will start on Super Bowl SUnday :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 03, 2008, 11:46:31 AM
Does the XL or IntelliStar have a freezing fog icon, and narration for freezing fog?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 03, 2008, 11:50:19 AM
Does the XL or IntelliStar have a freezing fog icon, and narration for freezing fog?
I dont think so
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 03, 2008, 11:52:44 AM
Does the XL or IntelliStar have a freezing fog icon, and narration for freezing fog?

Nope, neither one has that. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 03, 2008, 05:07:31 PM
Why is there no new lf music? They always start on a SUnday. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 03, 2008, 05:08:46 PM
They always start on a SUnday. <_<
Apparently not if they didn't start today. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 03, 2008, 05:09:27 PM
Do you like lf music Stephen?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 06, 2008, 06:51:06 PM
Is Kathy Ball retitled on itunes?

Also i cannot find "Playing in the Cold" by Doug Granville on BMI :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 06, 2008, 06:57:00 PM
Is Kathy Ball retitled on itunes?
Carlos said on TWCC that he got every song on last month's playlist except the John Brighton and Kathy Ball songs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 06, 2008, 06:59:14 PM
Except Kathy Ball?


Ugh, i hate production music :angry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 06, 2008, 07:00:57 PM
Except Kathy Ball?


Ugh, i hate production music :angry:
There's really nothing we can do about it. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 06, 2008, 07:12:09 PM
I wish i could license the song but i need to ask a rich person to kindly spend a thousands bucks for me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 06, 2008, 10:09:17 PM
Jacob Archer's cd is now available in CD Baby.com!
http://cdbaby.com/cd/jacobarcher

I'm gonna buy the cd with parental permission :dance: :dance: :thrilled:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 06, 2008, 11:13:33 PM
Jacob Archer's cd is now available in CD Baby.com!
[url]http://cdbaby.com/cd/jacobarcher[/url]

I'm gonna buy the cd with parental permission :dance: :dance: :thrilled:


I don't see why your parents wouldn't approve. Its JAZZ music for crying out loud.  :lol: :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 07, 2008, 12:22:12 PM
But they dont like jazz :( <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 07, 2008, 12:38:12 PM
My point is, like or dislike, its not like its dirty or obscene, like vocal music can be. I really don't understand what they would have against you purchasing it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 07, 2008, 01:48:47 PM
Because my dad often doesnt trust independent music sites like CD baby. Since i have an ipod he will go against buying the cd or track. I only want one song in that album and its not available in itunes. Its on diggstation.ocm but ill hafta create ana ccout
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 07, 2008, 02:32:03 PM
So then he wouldn't trust Amazon.com?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 07, 2008, 03:02:00 PM
So then he wouldn't trust Amazon.com?  :unsure:
lol thats the only site he trusts but you're not gonna find many unavailable CDs there
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 09, 2008, 07:01:12 PM
Did the 3000 say "Clear Below 12,000 ft" just like the junior?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 09, 2008, 07:03:07 PM
Did the 3000 say "Clear Below 12,000 ft" just like the junior?
Yes
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on February 09, 2008, 07:59:45 PM
So does the 4000, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 09, 2008, 10:16:42 PM
I can't really tell the difference between the 3000 and JR besides the 3000 having uppercase font
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 09, 2008, 11:07:02 PM
I can't really tell the difference between the 3000 and JR besides the 3000 having uppercase font
That's pretty much the only difference, other than the 3000 having the capability of only showing the text and not the blue background. The products and formatting of the 3000 and Junior are the same.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 02:29:21 PM
Were there weatherstar I and II?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 10, 2008, 02:30:06 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 02:37:36 PM
any info on them?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 10, 2008, 03:23:12 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 13, 2008, 06:56:14 PM
Does anyone know what fonts the XL uses?

Also, will i have to purchase it? Any free equivalents?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 13, 2008, 06:57:15 PM
Does anyone know what fonts the XL uses?

Also, will i have to purchase it? Any free equivalents?

Helvetica is the main font the XL uses. Yes, you would have to purchase it, but there are free equivalents.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 13, 2008, 06:57:40 PM
Does anyone know what fonts the XL uses?

Also, will i have to purchase it? Any free equivalents?
The XL uses variations of Akzidenz Grotesk extended. The ad crawl, temperature readings, and 36 hour forecast use Helvetica Neue Condensed. The titlebar on the v.3 uses the interstate font. And yes, they all cost money.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 13, 2008, 06:57:52 PM
What are the free equivalents?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 13, 2008, 07:39:51 PM
Google helvetica equivalent.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 14, 2008, 05:54:02 PM
Where can I find Steve Glotzer's "Acoustic Food Chain" album? I have a feeling that this is the album that has a song I've been searching for years.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 14, 2008, 05:55:46 PM
What song is it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 14, 2008, 05:55:55 PM
It is available on Amazon.com. The two songs from that CD that TWC used are on this site.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 14, 2008, 09:05:18 PM
Is Northern Lights by Sameul Lincoln composed by Incognito by any chance
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 15, 2008, 05:41:50 PM
Woah, I just watched my tapes from Tuesday night when we did the LOT48s, and my IntelliStar had a really weird flavor lineup. The Getaway Forecast was shown after the 36-hour forecast and before The Week Ahead! I have NEVER seen anything that wacky before on the IntelliStar! :crazy: :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 15, 2008, 05:43:24 PM
Is Northern Lights by Sameul Lincoln composed by Incognito by any chance
No.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 15, 2008, 05:43:50 PM
Woah, I just watched my tapes from Tuesday night when we did the LOT48s, and my IntelliStar had a really weird flavor lineup. The Getaway Forecast was shown after the 36-hour forecast and before The Week Ahead! I have NEVER seen anything that wacky before on the IntelliStar! :crazy: :wacko:
is there a clip of it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 15, 2008, 05:44:55 PM
Woah, I just watched my tapes from Tuesday night when we did the LOT48s, and my IntelliStar had a really weird flavor lineup. The Getaway Forecast was shown after the 36-hour forecast and before The Week Ahead! I have NEVER seen anything that wacky before on the IntelliStar! :crazy: :wacko:
is there a clip of it?
Yes. It was during the Local Across The 48s. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 15, 2008, 05:45:39 PM
A lot of weird thins happen to your IS :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 15, 2008, 06:18:40 PM
Woah, I just watched my tapes from Tuesday night when we did the LOT48s, and my IntelliStar had a really weird flavor lineup. The Getaway Forecast was shown after the 36-hour forecast and before The Week Ahead! I have NEVER seen anything that wacky before on the IntelliStar! :crazy: :wacko:
The same thing happened again that night at 9:38 PM.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 15, 2008, 09:11:28 PM
Woah, I just watched my tapes from Tuesday night when we did the LOT48s, and my IntelliStar had a really weird flavor lineup. The Getaway Forecast was shown after the 36-hour forecast and before The Week Ahead! I have NEVER seen anything that wacky before on the IntelliStar! :crazy: :wacko:
The same thing happened again that night at 9:38 PM.
And my IntelliStar is still doing this during the :08 and :38 flavor.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 15, 2008, 09:14:19 PM
maybe its a new flavor?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 19, 2008, 05:57:24 PM
When will satellite viewers gets the local Intellistar!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 19, 2008, 06:51:22 PM
Perhaps someday. But its really hard to say for sure. I think the technology will be available to do that some day, but it could b awhile.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 19, 2008, 08:39:33 PM
will it come in 2010?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 20, 2008, 11:13:30 AM
Just heard Broad Street on the 11:08 LF. First time I've actually heard it this month. The time in is terrible though. You hear what seems like the last 2:00 of the song. They could've picked a better portion of the song to play.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 20, 2008, 11:42:35 AM
Is it the last two minutes?

I think the time-in is fine
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 20, 2008, 11:44:40 AM
Victor, do you know why you think the time in is fine? Because you never heard it when it originally aired back in the early 90's.

And yes, it really does appear to be the last two minutes of the song, or at least some other rather late point in the song.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 20, 2008, 11:48:35 AM
What was the time-in of the song back in the 90s?

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 20, 2008, 11:56:24 AM
I don't know the exact time, but it was much, much earlier in the song. In fact, it may have started at the very beginning of the song, a well known trend at that time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 20, 2008, 12:10:26 PM
I have not heard "Roadrunner" by Boney James in 2 days. :angry:

Maybe tonight i hope. I'm trying to record the song!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 20, 2008, 04:22:01 PM
I don't know the exact time, but it was much, much earlier in the song. In fact, it may have started at the very beginning of the song, a well known trend at that time.
Most, if not all songs before Hurst came into play started at the very begining of the song. The only exception i could think of was some Trammell incidents.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 20, 2008, 04:27:06 PM
I don't know the exact time, but it was much, much earlier in the song. In fact, it may have started at the very beginning of the song, a well known trend at that time.
Most, if not all songs before Hurst came into play started at the very begining of the song. The only exception i could think of was some Trammell incidents.

That's basically what I said, isn't it?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 20, 2008, 04:29:03 PM
You said it MAY have started at the begining. I backed that up with a definite yes :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 20, 2008, 04:30:10 PM
You said it MAY have started at the begining. I backed that up with a definite yes :yes:

I also said that such was a very well known trend at the time. IOW, songs started from the beginning at that time. I just wasn't sure if that particular one did.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 20, 2008, 04:32:22 PM
So...what's the problem? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 20, 2008, 04:38:06 PM
It seemed more like you were correcting me rather than supporting me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 20, 2008, 04:48:24 PM
No, i was just backing up what you said.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 20, 2008, 06:39:31 PM
I'm hearing Broad Street by George Howard for the first time today
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 21, 2008, 05:44:33 PM
I'm hearing Broad Street by George Howard for the first time today

Really? I've heard it like crazy since the playlist began.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 21, 2008, 05:52:50 PM
I like the song. It brings a blast from the past
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 22, 2008, 05:41:04 PM
It seems on the IS, when the warning crawl disappears, the TWC logo and the time seems to disappear before the rest of the crawl (the part of the TWC logo you do see is from the normal LDL of which the warning crawl overlaps) disappears. See attached screenshot (from Billy's video):
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 22, 2008, 05:47:13 PM
It seems on the IS, when the warning crawl disappears, the TWC logo and the time seems to disappear before the rest of the crawl (the part of the TWC logo you do see is from the normal LDL of which the warning crawl overlaps) disappears. See attached screenshot (from Billy's video):
I've been seeing that happening for a while...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 22, 2008, 05:48:41 PM
I'm going to try to record the entire primetime playlist so stay tuned!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 24, 2008, 03:28:31 PM
Did the music on the Intellistar ever mute when there's narration? This happens on the XL
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 25, 2008, 10:10:57 PM
The music randomization is really screwed. I'm trying to record "Reptile" by Eric Clapton and it hasn't played at all <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 25, 2008, 10:13:00 PM
The music randomization is really screwed. I'm trying to record "Reptile" by Eric Clapton and it hasn't played at all <_<
Yeah, I know. Every time I watch during the primetime playlist, all I hear is "Before Dawn" by Joyce Cooling or "Her Poetry" by Lao Tizer.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 25, 2008, 10:25:49 PM
All i hear is Sun Kiss and Her Poetry. Not to mention "Sacrifice" played 5 times in a row :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 25, 2008, 10:35:20 PM
All i hear is Sun Kiss and Her Poetry. Not to mention "Sacrifice" played 5 times in a row :rolleyes:
Never heard "Sacrifice" before. :lol:

I just heard "Waves of Life" by Chris Geith for the first time this month a few minutes ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 26, 2008, 11:45:02 AM
All i hear is Sun Kiss and Her Poetry. Not to mention "Sacrifice" played 5 times in a row :rolleyes:

Never heard "Sacrifice" before. :lol:

I just heard "Waves of Life" by Chris Geith for the first time this month a few minutes ago.

this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0i7kTgTorW8) is Sacrifice.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 28, 2008, 11:09:53 AM
Jacob Archer's music is now available on itunes. Thanks Derek for the heads up! B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 28, 2008, 11:50:33 AM
Why didn't he give us a heads up on that?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 28, 2008, 12:12:35 PM
Why didn't he give us a heads up on that?  :rolleyes:
He gave it at TWCC. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 28, 2008, 01:29:20 PM
Why didn't he give us a heads up on that?  :rolleyes:
He gave it at TWCC. <_<

This is TWCT.  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 29, 2008, 06:14:23 PM
the music was turned down to at least 2% during the 6:08pm ET LF
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 29, 2008, 06:15:10 PM
the music was turned down to at least 2% during the 6:08pm ET LF
How could you tell it was turned down 2%? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 29, 2008, 06:16:06 PM
How could you tell it was turned down 2%? :huh:
Guess he has highly sensitive ears. :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 29, 2008, 06:16:50 PM
the music was turned down to at least 2% during the 6:08pm ET LF
It was 2%? It sounded more like 3% to me. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 29, 2008, 06:17:13 PM
Are we talking about sound or milk here?  :rofl2: :rofl2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 29, 2008, 06:17:59 PM
How could you tell it was turned down 2%? :huh:
Guess he has highly sensitive ears. :lol:
It wouldn't surprise me :rofl2: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 29, 2008, 06:34:01 PM
How could you tell it was turned down 2%? :huh:
Guess he has highly sensitive ears. :lol:
It wouldn't surprise me :rofl2: :rolleyes:

there was mostly narration on my intellistar with little music
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 29, 2008, 06:35:20 PM
that's why always stick to satellite or jr or 4000!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 29, 2008, 06:39:20 PM
that's why always stick to satellite or jr or 4000!
Huh? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 29, 2008, 06:40:03 PM
that's why always stick to satellite or jr or 4000!
Huh? :huh:
they have no narration...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 29, 2008, 06:45:54 PM
that's why always stick to satellite or jr or 4000!

Well im waiting for my local comcast to get Twc HD  <_< so i can maybe get a glimpse of no narration forecasting 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 29, 2008, 06:50:10 PM
you'll proably still get it with the hd star
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on March 04, 2008, 01:41:39 PM
I just wish there was no narration on the intellistar so i could hear more of the new music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 04, 2008, 01:42:06 PM
I just wish Camstudio doesnt skip the audio <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 07, 2008, 01:26:28 AM
Not only did I find Joe Loskota's BMI account, (http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&fromrow=1&torow=25&affiliation=BMI&cae=493034555&keyID=1004455&keyname=LOSKOTA%20JOSEPH%20DONALD&querytype=WriterID) I also found out he may be a member of this band. (http://www.myspace.com/belfastcowboys) But I'm still not done investigating, so I'm not 100% sure.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 06:09:19 PM
Norman Fisk's music is now available in itunes :)

His song playing this month "Crimson Sunset" is retitled "Love at Midnight"

I have an lf clip of the tune. I'll upload it later
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 09, 2008, 11:23:59 AM
Does anyone think that weatherscan should be viewed online? Like we type in our local area info, and the weatherscan with conditions for our area pop up
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 12, 2008, 10:12:25 PM
did twc have another "greatest hits" cd with artists like phish and ryan farish? It was only available in the promo dept.

I'm curious. does twc still sell it? any1 have it? what songs are in it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 15, 2008, 09:54:15 PM
I've just realized my intellistar's almanac station changed from Monterey to Watsonville. :shocked:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 15, 2008, 09:56:35 PM
You dont get tide forecasts anymore?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 15, 2008, 10:01:37 PM
You dont get tide forecasts anymore?
I get both almanac and tides.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 15, 2008, 10:02:34 PM
Wow I only get tides and marine


Here's the video Derek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c7vXxpRfx0
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2008, 03:05:22 PM
I've just noticed a rather interesting pattern regarding TWC artists published by supermax music and their BMI work numbers. If I, for example, take the work number (8705127) for "Just We Two" by Kim Hansen (featured in March 2007) and I search for 8705126, I get "Above the Horizon" by Sam Lincoln, which was also featured in the March playlist. As I continue going down, here are the results:
8705125 - Tender Moment by Tony Davilio
8705124 - Hip Hop by Patrick Yandall

Once I reach a song that's not on the TWC playlist, I go up from the original number, and I get:
8705129 - Pressing On by Yvonne Ayers
8705130 - Across the Bay by Donna Kilpatrick
8705131 - On the Bayou by Patrick Yandall
etc...

All those songs I listed were in the March playlist. Knowing this, we could possibly figure out some of the songs that were in the February 2007 and April 2007 playlists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2008, 03:08:04 PM
So that's how TWC gets their unavailable music in a playlist?!?!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2008, 03:08:52 PM
So that's how TWC gets their unavailable music in a playlist?!?!
No. It's simply a pattern I noticed over at BMI.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2008, 03:09:36 PM
Yeah i know it's a just a hpyothesesis.  Can you do another pattern?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2008, 03:11:16 PM
Yeah i know it's a just a hpyothesesis.  Can you do another pattern?
You can do one yourself. It isn't that hard.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2008, 03:14:23 PM
i did and i only get one result
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2008, 03:17:31 PM
Derek, can you show me how? I dontt hink i'm doing it right
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2008, 03:18:08 PM
Derek, can you show me how? I dontt hink i'm doing it right
Victor, it's not hard. Read my original post.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2008, 03:20:24 PM
It works!!

For "Smoothy McGroovy"

i get "Mountains of Unaka", "Back on Track" and "Nashville Skylien" :wow:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 16, 2008, 03:21:11 PM
Vic, what did I say about double posting?  :poke:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2008, 03:22:57 PM
It works!!

For "Smoothy McGroovy"

i get "Mountains of Unaka", "Back on Track" and "Nashville Skylien" :wow:
Yep, I just did that one. Keep in mind it only applies to artists published by supermax music, such as Kathy Ball, CC Gilmore/Samuel Lincoln, Jay Soto, Patrick Yandall, Doug Markley, Joe Loskota, Mick Mahan, John Brighton, Richard Smith, Kim Hansen, Donna Kilpatrick, Yvonne Ayers, Art Ruprecht, etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2008, 03:25:14 PM
No wonder. It typed Norman's Fisk name and i got "She's so Hot" :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2008, 03:26:10 PM
No wonder. It typed Norman's Fisk name and i got "She's so Hot" :huh:
Yeah, Norman Fisk isn't published by supermax, so it won't work. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I haven't found any yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2008, 03:34:27 PM
Does Supermax have song samples?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2008, 03:39:21 PM
Does Supermax have song samples?
No :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2008, 03:40:53 PM
I can;t even find their website!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2008, 03:46:57 PM
I can;t even find their website!
That's because they don't have one. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2008, 03:53:31 PM
I think you can play unavaialbe music on the radio too! They have a radio license
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 20, 2008, 12:17:54 PM
Does anyone know who Ron Thornton Valentine is? I've seen a lot of their music in the overnight playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 22, 2008, 08:01:50 PM
For those who have been wondering if the XL still has the 3-day forecast, I can confirm it still does. CriminalCola, an XL viewer, told me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 22, 2008, 08:04:24 PM
That's good! The xl never gets updated
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 22, 2008, 08:04:49 PM
For those who have been wondering if the XL still has the 3-day forecast, I can confirm it still does. CriminalCola, an XL viewer, told me.
That's good to hear that the 3-day EF not totally dead yet (I'm sure it'll live on in the 4000 and Jr for a long while, though).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 22, 2008, 08:05:24 PM
That's good! The xl never gets updated
I wouldn't say that. Recently, CriminalCola said he had a bunch of new cities added to his radar map.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 22, 2008, 08:06:14 PM
Well that's pretty minor and only happens in his area. im talking about flavor product changes, icon changes, new fonts
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 22, 2008, 08:07:10 PM
Don;t fix what ain't broken. Thats what I always say.  :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 24, 2008, 01:20:24 PM
I got a reply from Eddie Reasoner :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 24, 2008, 01:27:53 PM
I got a reply from Eddie Reasoner :)
What did he say?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 24, 2008, 01:30:16 PM

Hey Victor,
 
Thanks for listening to my music.  Currently I'm in the process of making some new recordings,  Mts. of Unaka is just one of those from the new project which is currently ongoing.  As I get the project near completion, I'll let you know, or better yet,  just keep in touch and thanks for believing in my music......be sure and let the Weather Channel music supervisor Brian Picard know that you really liked this as well.
 
Best,
 
E.R.


He's nice :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 24, 2008, 01:32:27 PM
Well we now have confirmation of the identity of the music man.  :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 24, 2008, 01:32:59 PM
I asked him for the music guys email
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 24, 2008, 01:33:53 PM
I'd be surprised if he gave it to you. That's not info that we're authorized to have. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 24, 2008, 01:34:56 PM
Me too. I don't think he's allowed to. Plus I never even heard of Brian Picard's name. How come we're not authorized?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 24, 2008, 01:36:43 PM
If you know the format of the email addresses for TWC employees, it's not hard to figure out. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 24, 2008, 01:38:14 PM
so the format would be like this?

Completely fictional:

some guy named Whatsittoya Freak :P

wfreak@weather.com?

EDIT: edited post for the sake of the TWC  employess.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 24, 2008, 01:39:03 PM
so the format would be like this?

Completely fictional:

some guy named EricWilson :P

ewilson@weather.com?
Possibly... :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 24, 2008, 01:40:47 PM
r u positive?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 24, 2008, 01:41:27 PM
r u positive?
For the sake of the employees at TWC, I'm not gonna say it publicly. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 24, 2008, 01:43:10 PM
But how come unless we're artists, not allowed to email Mr. Music man?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 24, 2008, 02:16:02 PM
Because if everyone were allowed do you realize how many people would? And do you realize how many people would send spam?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 24, 2008, 02:16:54 PM
I can keep it confidental. I don't know the guy's email and even i did, i don't think i'll ever email him
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 24, 2008, 02:20:51 PM
No sharing of e-mails please. Thank you.  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicRocks on March 25, 2008, 12:21:09 AM
I can keep it confidental. I don't know the guy's email and even i did, i don't think i'll ever email him

yeah, you made a good point. If someone asks me for the email on a LF song, they make it a point not to email me
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 25, 2008, 01:00:08 PM
I've been in contact with Trammell Starks via AIM, and he told me he plans on joining this forum and TWCC. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 25, 2008, 01:02:15 PM
Excellent! I asked Eddie to join this forum too but i got no response. someone shoud tell him on aims
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 25, 2008, 01:48:10 PM
Excellent! I asked Eddie to join this forum too but i got no response. someone shoud tell him on aims
He's out of town, remember? So we should wait a bit before asking him.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 25, 2008, 02:02:42 PM
no he isn't. he replied to my email
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 25, 2008, 02:04:11 PM
Look, I don't mind you guys inviting him to join and stuff, but don't be pestering the man on our behalf. I certainly don't want him thinking badly of the site.  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 25, 2008, 02:05:56 PM
Why would he think this site is bad?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 25, 2008, 02:06:07 PM
Look, I don't mind you guys inviting him to join and stuff, but don't be pestering the man on our behalf. I certainly don't want him thinking badly of the site.  :)
Oh, I wasn't AIMing him about joining the site. I was asking for Mountains of Unaka. And even then, I only AIMd him twice, and he didn't seem bothered by me at all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 25, 2008, 02:06:54 PM
I've never AIM'd him before. Partly, becuz i think it's rude
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 25, 2008, 02:12:02 PM
All I know is you guys are talking about e-mailing him about joining. That's fine, as long as you control yourselves about it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 25, 2008, 02:12:51 PM
All I know is you guys are talking about e-mailing him about joining. That's fine, as long as you control yourselves about it.
I never mentioned once to him about the site. I only asked about his song.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 25, 2008, 02:13:56 PM
I talked to be him about the site in a reply. He replied to last message and I thought I'd just reply him back rather than start a new message
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 25, 2008, 02:16:02 PM
Again, that's fine. Just don't bug him again. Once is enough.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on March 25, 2008, 02:46:18 PM
I've been in contact with Trammell Starks via AIM, and he told me he plans on joining this forum and TWCC. :yes:
I've been talking to him as well. He's really nice. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 25, 2008, 03:09:22 PM
I've been in contact with Trammell Starks via AIM, and he told me he plans on joining this forum and TWCC. :yes:

I'm glad to hear that. It won't count for anything to this forum as he'll be at TWCC as well, but he'll certainly be a welcome addition regardless.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 25, 2008, 05:42:16 PM
Why does the satellite LF seem to have white strips appear during the radar/satellite loop so often?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 25, 2008, 06:13:24 PM
Can you show us an example?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 25, 2008, 06:20:27 PM
Can you show us an example?

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1924/snapshot20080325181829uk2.jpg)

They're likely just spots of missing or corrupt data. It happens from time to time on all satellite imagery.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 25, 2008, 06:21:26 PM
Can you show us an example?

([url]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1924/snapshot20080325181829uk2.jpg[/url])

They're likely just spots of missing or corrupt data. It happens from time to time on all satellite imagery.

But it's been happening a lot more often now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 25, 2008, 06:22:48 PM
I see that all the time.  It's either missing data or information is not up to date from the computer that gives the radar images.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 26, 2008, 02:04:21 PM
Interesting article on TWC music:
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck/episodes/2008/01/24/segments/92333

with programmer Brian Picard.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 26, 2008, 02:53:55 PM
Interesting article on TWC music:
[url]http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck/episodes/2008/01/24/segments/92333[/url]

with programmer Brian Picard.

If you listen at 15 out 0f 20 minutes of the radio interview, Brian Picard  says that another smooth jazz cd will be released on the 29th of April.

EDIT: Found it! It's to be released on May 13, 2008 and is called "The Weather Channel Presents Best of Local on the 8s"
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7646264
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 26, 2008, 04:00:12 PM
That's very interesting. I wonder which artists will be featured on the next CD.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 26, 2008, 04:17:21 PM
Me too. I hope there is at least one unavailable song. At lteast there will be another addition to the weather channel cxd
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on March 26, 2008, 04:26:32 PM
maybe the original simple pleasures?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 26, 2008, 04:34:33 PM
nope. they already put a cd version of it in the first cd.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on March 26, 2008, 05:35:45 PM
Brian Piccard is supposed to be a very cool guy, from what I hear.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 26, 2008, 05:37:33 PM
What makes you say that?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on March 26, 2008, 06:09:37 PM
nope. they already put a cd version of it in the first cd.

i know vic but you never know it might be on the next cd like richard tyznik
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 26, 2008, 06:12:35 PM
oOnly time will tell
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 29, 2008, 02:25:26 PM
My CC site had changed to Levittown after having Northeast Philadelphia Airport (abbreviated as "N. Phila Arpt.") as it's site since at least ten years ago.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 29, 2008, 06:37:54 PM
Does the AC Boardwalk use Hirad for its CC?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 29, 2008, 06:38:18 PM
Does the AC Boardwalk use Hirad for its CC?
If it's an intellistar, then it has HiRAD. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 29, 2008, 06:38:59 PM
I thought so because the NWS only has Atlantic City airport as the nearest site :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 29, 2008, 07:06:00 PM
All IntelliStars use hirad, even if the CC site is an airport.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on March 29, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
All IntelliStars use hirad, even if the CC site is an airport.
Confirmed, because it's difficult to tell when HiRad is down for me...the non-HiRad and HiRad site is the same in name (South Bend (Airport)).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 29, 2008, 07:26:55 PM
Confirmed, because it's difficult to tell when HiRad is down for me...the non-HiRad and HiRad site is the same in name (South Bend (Airport)).
That was the same case here in the Lower Bucks IntelliStar, until the past month when the HiRAD site changed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 31, 2008, 06:55:01 PM
I have a question, where in TWC do they program/make the music for the LocalOn the 8s? Is it in Master Control?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 31, 2008, 07:07:08 PM
They don't MAKE any of it. But I believe the music man has his own room where he takes care of the music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 31, 2008, 07:10:03 PM
They probley call it the "music room" :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 31, 2008, 08:59:15 PM
I'm betting 50/50 that TWC will start new music tomorrow. Anyone agree?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 31, 2008, 11:43:47 PM
Seeing as its the first of the month I'd say they will.  :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 03, 2008, 09:37:06 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRUu4MpTEs8) is something I'd love to see on TWC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on April 03, 2008, 10:47:34 PM
Oh man is that cool!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on April 04, 2008, 09:54:04 AM
This is kinda cool, just came across it:
http://www.ustream.tv/kpetree10

As well a stream of WeatherSTAR Recordings:
http://www.mogulus.com/theweatherstarchannel
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on April 04, 2008, 10:06:21 AM
As well a stream of WeatherSTAR Recordings:
[url]http://www.mogulus.com/theweatherstarchannel[/url]

They're not his, though. :no: I know one of those clips are from Billy.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 04, 2008, 10:11:26 AM
I heard the song "Celebration" by Norman Brown in a Wawa store earlier this morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 04, 2008, 11:58:55 AM
As well a stream of WeatherSTAR Recordings:
[url]http://www.mogulus.com/theweatherstarchannel[/url]

They're not his, though. :no: I know one of those clips are from Billy.

Yeah....

Who created that stream? I'd like to talk to them. I'm flattered that they're using my videos, but they really should've asked for my permission first. :furious:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 04, 2008, 01:08:09 PM
The Vineland NJ Weatherscan clip looks awfully familiar :rolleyes:

It's not mine, but I know the person who uploaded the original clip on YT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on April 04, 2008, 02:31:49 PM
As well a stream of WeatherSTAR Recordings:
[url]http://www.mogulus.com/theweatherstarchannel[/url]

They're not his, though. :no: I know one of those clips are from Billy.

Yeah....

Who created that stream? I'd like to talk to them. I'm flattered that they're using my videos, but they really should've asked for my permission first. :furious:

Want me to take the channel down? I have the copyright form filled out, just have to mail it... Not joking ither.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on April 04, 2008, 02:52:02 PM
How does that work? We can't claim copyrights on those videos. The content is not ours. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 04, 2008, 02:59:39 PM
How does that work? We can't claim copyrights on those videos. The content is not ours. :no:
What on videos we created ourselves, like emulators?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on April 04, 2008, 03:09:11 PM
There is a like secondary copyright act though, technically the content is property of TWCi but the video was captured by you and posted by you... You can ask that it be removed, its not a sure thing though.

If we are playing this card, Billy can't put his tag in it ither... but since he did, he can ask that it be removed, again not a sure thing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on April 04, 2008, 03:36:39 PM
Bottom line-your not going to get it removed that way. I wish more than any of you that there was some way to get our videos removed from video sharing sites, but the fact of the matter is that its an extremely unregulated industry. I'd venture to say that 75% or more of the videos posted to YouTube are copyright violations in some way, but you don't see those going anywhere fast do you?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 05, 2008, 02:08:23 PM
I Wish i had the choice to turn off the Allen Jackson Narration part the LF so i can listen to most of the music without him cutting in  :noexpression:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 10, 2008, 04:09:54 PM
For some reason they played a one minute local forecast at 3:59 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 10, 2008, 06:50:33 PM
If you hear 1:19 of this song, you can hear vocals! :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyquMpmT73I
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 10, 2008, 08:24:24 PM
My intellistar hasn't been showing the radar screen all day! :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 10, 2008, 08:32:40 PM
My intellistar hasn't been showing the radar screen all day! :huh:
Is there any precipitation in your area?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 10, 2008, 08:33:41 PM
My intellistar hasn't been showing the radar screen all day! :huh:

Is there any precipitation in your area?

Nope. Nothing. I'll have a clip of it soon on youtube...

EDIT: Here's the :28/:58 flavor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCEfkS_AfFY
And here's the :08/:38 Flavor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoM3ZxrPpWk
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 12, 2008, 11:10:09 AM
Does anyone think TWC will bring back the vocal music next May?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 12, 2008, 11:17:04 AM
Does anyone think TWC will bring back the vocal music next May?
Vocal Music + TWC = (http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/disdain%20%281%29.gif)

If it was only around for one day, then nobody liked it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 12, 2008, 11:21:16 AM
I hated the vocal music. But i wish it stayed a bit longer. There's always a chance they'll do something spiffy during their relaunch times.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on April 12, 2008, 11:33:04 AM
Vocal Music + TWC = ([url]http://www.twcclassics.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/disdain%20%281%29.gif[/url])

I thought you liked vocal music on TWC? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 12, 2008, 11:56:00 AM
Yeah, but I didn't like most of the songs TWC used. Most of them I never even heard of before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 12, 2008, 11:57:54 AM
Most of the songs they used were heavily played in radio stations like "Far Away" by Nickelback "Chasing Cars" by Snow Patrol, "Tender Box" James Blunt etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 13, 2008, 12:36:10 PM
I could've sworn this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rNK5YuH8df4) song back in November 2006 is done by Patrick Yandall. it sounds familiar
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 13, 2008, 12:38:07 PM
I could've sworn this ([url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=rNK5YuH8df4[/url]) song back in November 2006 is done by Patrick Yandall. it sounds familiar

I love that song! No, it's not Patrick Yandall. I've checked all his songs many times, and none of them sounded even remotely like that one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 13, 2008, 12:38:58 PM
I could've sworn this ([url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=rNK5YuH8df4[/url]) song back in November 2006 is done by Patrick Yandall. it sounds familiar

I love that song! No, it's not Patrick Yandall. I've checked all his songs many times, and none of them sounded even remotely like that one.

Anthony James Baker is another possiblity. His sound is similar to that lovely song i'm looking for.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 14, 2008, 05:12:54 PM
If anyone wants to know how the Reno, NV Intellistar looks like click here: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=186535410

It contains the song "Desert Tripping" by Bobby Adams from his myspace. Geez, i didn't know that many people used tv tuners :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 18, 2008, 05:57:24 PM
Norman Fisk's music is now in itunes!

Smooth Ride from 1/08
Just South of Santa Cruz from 1/08
Border Winds from this month
Burned by the moon by this month
and Crimson Sunset from 3/08 all played on TWC

I'm purchasing all 5 tunes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 18, 2008, 08:14:38 PM
The version of "Smooth Ride" that aired on TWC is available on itunes. The one that was there before had a totally different melody.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 18, 2008, 09:45:27 PM
When will TWC get rid of the little WWCH ad on the top right of the screen during the LF? It's bugging the crap out of me. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 22, 2008, 07:04:33 PM
At 5:58 pm before I see my LF forecast, they brought back the WWCH opener. :huh: I am getting sick of that opener. :sick:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 22, 2008, 08:36:19 PM
At 7:29pm my Intellistar has the local radar. Looks like it's a rainy day in Northeast Mexico.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 22, 2008, 08:47:16 PM
At 7:29pm my Intellistar has the local radar. Looks like it's a rainy day in Northeast Mexico.
Mexico has the Intellistar? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on April 22, 2008, 08:47:52 PM
What do you mean Mexico? He's in Texas.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 22, 2008, 08:50:16 PM
He said his local radar shows a Rainy Day in Mexico. I'm no Intellistar expert, but I thought no radar info is displayed when the map is shown on other countries.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on April 22, 2008, 08:50:51 PM
He said his local radar shows a Rainy Day in Mexico. I'm no Intellistar expert, but I thought no radar info is displayed when the map is shown on other countries.

The IntelliStar can show Mexican cities if he's near enough. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 22, 2008, 08:51:13 PM
He said his local radar shows a Rainy Day in Mexico. I'm no Intellistar expert, but I thought no radar info is displayed when the map is shown on other countries.

The IntelliStar can show Mexican cities if he's near enough. :yes:
Aah, that's kool.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 22, 2008, 09:10:28 PM
At 7:58 pm, my IntelliStar didn't narrate the current conditions! :o That's odd for my IntelliStar.

Yes, Laredo is located in near Nuevo Laredo,(Laredo's sister city) MX.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 22, 2008, 09:22:53 PM
At 7:58 pm, my IntelliStar didn't narrate the current conditions! :o That's odd for my IntelliStar.


The one minute flavor will not narrate the current conditions if there is not enough time to do so. It happens quite often if there is a Weather Bulletins screen and there is precipitation on the radar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 22, 2008, 09:31:45 PM
At 7:58 pm, my IntelliStar didn't narrate the current conditions! :o That's odd for my IntelliStar.


The one minute flavor will not narrate the current conditions if there is not enough time to do so. It happens quite often if there is a Weather Bulletins screen and there is precipitation on the radar.

You're right. :sunglasses:

My Intellistar was showing the local radar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 23, 2008, 05:34:58 PM
i found wayne gerard's email in CD Baby and it's prbably different then the one i was given. Should I email him and ask for "I'm ALL About you"?

Wanna ask permission first even though i doubt he'll reply and/or give a harsh response.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 23, 2008, 05:41:52 PM
i found wayne gerard's email in CD Baby and it's prbably different then the one i was given. Should I email him and ask for "I'm ALL About you"?

Wanna ask permission first even though i doubt he'll reply and/or give a harsh response.
Go right ahead. Just be sure to include your email address in the message so he knows how to contact you.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 23, 2008, 05:45:01 PM
I'll contact him. I emailed him about 3 weeks ago so I guess it's safe i email him again. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 24, 2008, 07:19:03 AM
@ 7:14am My LDL was playing my lf during the commercals
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 24, 2008, 07:35:39 PM
My IntelliStar begins using the local radar again this day. This is the thrid day with local radar. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 24, 2008, 09:02:52 PM
At 7:58 pm my IntelliStar's radar was not working. That rarley happen in my IntelliStar v3.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 24, 2008, 09:14:12 PM
Before I see my lf I notice the black bar was showing on commarals! :o After the opener it's fixed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 24, 2008, 09:31:03 PM
The radar for my IntelliStar is brought back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 26, 2008, 07:55:06 PM
does anyone know where i can get Jill Switzer's music? Specifically "Here and Now".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on April 26, 2008, 08:13:31 PM
Try their website:

http://www.richandjill.net/ (http://www.richandjill.net/)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 26, 2008, 08:29:57 PM
is it retitled on their website?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on April 26, 2008, 08:32:28 PM
I think so.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 26, 2008, 08:32:52 PM
Which one is it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 26, 2008, 08:45:54 PM
Which one is it?
None of them. I listened to all of the samples and "Here and Now" is not there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 26, 2008, 09:28:17 PM
It's on Broadjam I think. I remember hearing it there awhile back. Try searching it there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 26, 2008, 09:57:23 PM
It's not in broadjam, i checked.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 26, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
It's not in broadjam, i checked.
Yeah, it is. I searched for "here and now" on the "song name" field and "jill switzer" on the artist field and that song is the first and only result.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 26, 2008, 10:14:53 PM
Thanks for the help Mike. :twothumbs:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 27, 2008, 12:58:01 PM
I found the song "Precious Time" by Steve Glotzer on itunes but it's retitiled "A Little Bit Funky".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 28, 2008, 08:37:05 PM
At 7:29 pm, my IntelliStar was showing the record low screen. :o That's rarley shown on my IntelliStar. The temp will be 56, Which is an odd temp for late April.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 28, 2008, 10:55:15 PM
When the May 2008 playlist starts, who's going to record videos for the next playlist? I am. I will record some clips at daytime/primetime, and maybe 10  clips for overtime. Anyone?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 29, 2008, 01:58:53 PM
When the May 2008 playlist starts, who's going to record videos for the next playlist? I am. Anyone?

I usually record only the overnight playlist   ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 29, 2008, 03:24:45 PM
When the May 2008 playlist starts, who's going to record videos for the next playlist? I am. Anyone?
I will
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 30, 2008, 06:30:29 PM
That's weird, they kept playing my favorite song: JTTL by Ryan Farish.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 30, 2008, 10:29:02 PM
Anyone else's IntelliStar radar unavailable? Mine's been down all evening.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 30, 2008, 10:39:10 PM
Anyone else's IntelliStar radar unavailable? Mine's been down all evening.
Mine's down too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 01, 2008, 12:12:54 AM
It's now May, so you know what that means...? The UV index returns to the IntelliStar LDL!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 01, 2008, 07:48:05 PM
Anyone else's IntelliStar radar unavailable? Mine's been down all evening.
Mine's down too.

so was mine :ko3:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 01, 2008, 07:59:57 PM
Anyone else's IntelliStar radar unavailable? Mine's been down all evening.
Mine's down too.

so was mine :ko3:
So was mine. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 01, 2008, 08:33:13 PM
Does any members take a picture from the LF today?  I did.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 04, 2008, 03:03:21 PM
Glitch on my IntelliStar. At 1:58 pm, the current conditions says that Laredo was 8 dergees :o. Glitch to me. The temp right now is 86.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 04, 2008, 03:24:57 PM
Glitch fixed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 04, 2008, 05:51:46 PM
There is a new WeatherSTAR XL location!! Too bad the user's TV Tuner broke...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNKlSzl5XNA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 04, 2008, 06:34:23 PM
There is a new WeatherSTAR XL location!! Too bad the user's TV Tuner broke...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNKlSzl5XNA[/url]
The location for that XL is Carroll, Iowa. BTW, the song in that video is Eye of the Storm by Ken Gregory.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 04, 2008, 06:37:29 PM
There is a new WeatherSTAR XL location!! Too bad the user's TV Tuner broke...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNKlSzl5XNA[/url]
The location for that XL is Carroll, Iowa. BTW, the song in that video is Eye of the Storm by Ken Gregory.

I was gonna keep it a secret until users view the video. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 04, 2008, 07:56:29 PM
There is a new WeatherSTAR XL location!! Too bad the user's TV Tuner broke...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNKlSzl5XNA[/url]
The location for that XL is Carroll, Iowa. BTW, the song in that video is Eye of the Storm by Ken Gregory.

I was gonna keep it a secret until users view the video. <_<


What's the purpose of secret keeping?  :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 04, 2008, 07:56:48 PM
i thought it would interest people.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 04, 2008, 07:57:26 PM
Then you should tell people instead of hiding it from them!  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 04, 2008, 08:59:06 PM
But people like surprises?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 05, 2008, 09:18:04 PM
Upated on my IntelliStar:
San Diego, TX has been added to the latest conditions. :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 05, 2008, 10:47:54 PM
One more: Freer is removed from the lastest conditions.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 06, 2008, 08:01:33 PM
One LF Question: Do you like ads crawl that appear on the LF? I don't because they too annoying espically the one from Lancaster,PA. Mine are OK. I wish ad crawl are removed because they has been on lf for  25 years. Anyone hates ad crawl?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 07, 2008, 03:25:15 PM
Today marks one year since the LF music programmer change, and the night of the vocal music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 07, 2008, 03:29:14 PM
Who can't remember what happened a year ago from today? :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on May 07, 2008, 03:31:24 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VYM503pnadk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1OLI3E32HgY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8hkloCkSsuc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=thU5pBZIk7w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KoB4iQ4Fq6Y
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 07, 2008, 03:32:55 PM
Today marks one year since the LF music programmer change, and the night of the vocal music.

Ummm...vocal music, yes. Music programmer change, no. He came aboard in July of last year. Refer to the July 2007 thread.  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 07, 2008, 03:39:35 PM
Today marks one year since the LF music programmer change, and the night of the vocal music.
I remember this day... I was laying in bed watching A&B and almost dozed off until the 8:18 PM ET local forecast. It started off with no narration, and I was like "this is strange" then I hear the vocals come in. I was like "OMG, WTF?!" then the local forecast cut out early in the middle of the forecast. I was so freaked out that I jumped out of bed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 07, 2008, 03:41:30 PM
I remembered the first song that aired in the primetime list last year, "Chasing Cars" by Snow Patrol...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 07, 2008, 04:29:10 PM
Ummm...vocal music, yes. Music programmer change, no. He came aboard in July of last year. Refer to the July 2007 thread.  B)
Nope, it was May 2007. I remember Matt (twcclassics) receiving an email from Steve Hurst that month and he said a new person have took over when the vocal music started.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 07, 2008, 05:04:45 PM
Ummm...vocal music, yes. Music programmer change, no. He came aboard in July of last year. Refer to the July 2007 thread.  B)
Nope, it was May 2007. I remember Matt (twcclassics) receiving an email from Steve Hurst that month and he said a new person have took over when the vocal music started.

Then where on earth did WE get the impression that July 2007 was the new guy's first playlist?  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on May 07, 2008, 05:53:15 PM
Funny, May 7 2007 was 5 years since my first taping of TWC. :yes:

Whoever got the idea that Brian started in July?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 07, 2008, 05:58:58 PM
Funny, May 7 2007 was 5 years since my first taping of TWC. :yes:

Whoever got the idea that Brian started in July?

I don't know, but apparently someone did because if you refer to the July 2007 playlist thread that's what is talked about in there.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on May 07, 2008, 06:09:17 PM
Funny, May 7 2007 was 5 years since my first taping of TWC. :yes:

Whoever got the idea that Brian started in July?

I don't know, but apparently someone did because if you refer to the July 2007 playlist thread that's what is talked about in there.


Perhaps thats just when people found out about it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 07, 2008, 06:50:24 PM
Funny, May 7 2007 was 5 years since my first taping of TWC. :yes:

Whoever got the idea that Brian started in July?

I don't know, but apparently someone did because if you refer to the July 2007 playlist thread that's what is talked about in there.


Perhaps thats just when people found out about it.

Who knows. But I really don't think he was there this early. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 07, 2008, 08:10:06 PM
People may of just thought July was the first playlist by the new programmer because the music used was a lot different than the May 2007 playlist, but the new programmer seems to use completely different artists each month with only three songs at best being carried over from the previous month. Steve used to carry a lot of songs from recent playlists onto the next month's playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 07, 2008, 09:32:22 PM
Brian uses new music from new artists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 07, 2008, 11:07:25 PM
Not entirely true. I've heard many songs that I haven't heard on TWC in years (Homeward Bound and When A Child Smiles to name a couple).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on May 07, 2008, 11:26:50 PM
What about Eddie Reasoner? He's certainly not a new artist. Brian just has different music tastes than Steve did.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 07, 2008, 11:37:02 PM
His tastes don't seem to include rock, thank god. As I've said before, rock and TWC DO NOT go together. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on May 07, 2008, 11:37:50 PM
His tastes don't seem to include rock, thank god. As I've said before, rock and TWC DO NOT go together. :no:
What about the stuff played in Sept/Oct 2007? That playlist was MOSTLY rock. I dont mind some of the stuff.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 07, 2008, 11:42:23 PM
His tastes don't seem to include rock, thank god. As I've said before, rock and TWC DO NOT go together. :no:
What about the stuff played in Sept/Oct 2007? That playlist was MOSTLY rock. I dont mind some of the stuff.

There were only 4 or 5 rock songs on that list.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on May 08, 2008, 05:33:00 AM
While the new programmer does carry over some songs from previous years...overall I have noticed an average of 6 new CDs per month used since November 2007. We're projected to have 72 CDs used this year at that rate if it continues. That is more CD's used on TWC than any other year except 1986, during the days of large playlists. so far 35 or so CDs have been used. to compare I have  52 albums with music fatured on TWC in 2004, 53 from 2005, 51 from 2006, and just 43 CDs from 2007. The lower number of CDs is due to 2 missing playlists (feb and apr), a greater appearance of "n/a" tunes, and the fact that a few of the playlists lasted two months.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 08, 2008, 03:10:46 PM
Could we request TWC to provide a time-in'd playlist? I like to see the cuts especailly for the unavailable songs...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 09, 2008, 03:02:03 PM
How strange. "Homeward Bound" by Patrick O'Hearn played at 2:59 PM ET. That song is supposed to be on the primetime playlist, so it shouldn't have played then.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 09, 2008, 03:09:17 PM
They play the primetime songs everyday at 2:58PM when there's special programming. It's nothing new. Has been happening for about a year. I don't know why though must be a bug in the music computer.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 09, 2008, 03:40:47 PM
They play the primetime songs everyday at 2:58PM when there's special programming. It's nothing new. Has been happening for about a year. I don't know why though must be a bug in the music computer.
About a year? The long form programming from 2 PM ET through 3 PM ET has only been happening for about seven months now. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 09, 2008, 03:43:08 PM
My bad around that timeframe. But YES they still do air primetime tunes on the 1 minute flavors after SS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 09, 2008, 03:59:20 PM
My intellistar is showing Light Rain and Fog as my current conditions, and is showing the drizzle and fog icon. I didn't know IntelliStars showed other precip and fog conditions other than drizzle and fog.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 10, 2008, 04:36:54 PM
Who hate Traffic Pulse? I do. The reason why I don't like Traffic Pulse to be in the weather channel. It's has been on TWC since 2005.  :furious: I wish Traffic Pulse was removed from the weather channel before they changed to HD. I'm glad I'm only see an IntelliStar with Traffic Pulse. Who agree with me?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TheRolyPoly on May 10, 2008, 04:41:49 PM
I love traffic pulse
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 10, 2008, 04:45:49 PM
I never like it because it's replaced the regional forecast during the 28/58 2 minutes. :no: I like TP a little. The only IntelliStar I see with Traffic Pluse is San Antonio's, which is great.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 10, 2008, 05:17:44 PM
anyone notice the satellite feed has been stuck for an hour now? They're showing the screen with Orlando, Tampa, Miami and atlanta for the entire lf.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujo1i86mG0g
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 10, 2008, 05:46:43 PM
anyone notice the satellite feed has been stuck for an hour now? They're showing the screen with Orlando, Tampa, Miami and atlanta for the entire lf.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujo1i86mG0g[/url]

Problem is still occuring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl5fo9TH2Hs
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 10, 2008, 06:38:29 PM
anyone notice the satellite feed has been stuck for an hour now? They're showing the screen with Orlando, Tampa, Miami and atlanta for the entire lf.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujo1i86mG0g[/url]

Yes. At the 4:58 PM ET LF, right before the IntelliStar queued, I saw the satellite LF make an appearance, and it was frozen on that screen. And it happened again at 6:38 PM ET. I saw the satellite feed for a split second.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 10, 2008, 06:41:49 PM
I wonder how long this will occur. Should I record more clips?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on May 10, 2008, 06:49:06 PM
Yep, still the same.  Been like that for several hours now, I think.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on May 10, 2008, 08:27:39 PM
I never like it because it's replaced the regional forecast during the 28/58 2 minutes. :no: I like TP a little. The only IntelliStar I see with Traffic Pluse is San Antonio's.

and quite honestly, i love it being in this metro.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 10, 2008, 10:30:00 PM
Who hate Traffic Pluse? I do. Anyone hates TP?
You may hate it now, but when you start driving, you'd couldn't live without Traffic Pulse.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 10, 2008, 11:30:46 PM
Someone should seriously fix the satellite LF. It's still frozen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 10, 2008, 11:33:13 PM
Someone should seriously fix the satellite LF. It's still frozen.
Still? I guess they're taking Saturday night off. I wonder if it will be down all weekend? You'd think someone would've noticed it by now at TWC and either fixed it or reverted to the emergency feed for LFs.

Edit: And with the satellite LF being frozen, satellite viewers will not obviously be able to see all the warnings in effect on this very stormy and severe night. This is posing a safety threat. TWC really needs to get around to fixing this soon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 11, 2008, 02:51:03 AM
1:48 AM CT - the satellite LF has finally returned!

Apparently someone got bored at such a late hour and thought, "Hey, maybe I should busy myself by fixing that." :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 11, 2008, 10:20:20 AM
Yeah it's finally fixed. It's about time. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 11, 2008, 05:20:12 PM
Hey, was anyone's radar down last night?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 11, 2008, 06:00:53 PM
The name of Jeanne Ricks' new CD is "Now's the Time"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 17, 2008, 09:46:25 PM
After the LF Following WeatherVentures the sat. kicked in with TS, Weird :fear:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 18, 2008, 05:51:10 PM
We're not allowed to discuss that here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 18, 2008, 06:30:33 PM
Don't know where this would go, but when I was driving around town, I heard Love's Theme by Love Unlimited Orchestra. Was that a song ever played on TWC?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2008, 06:32:08 PM
Don't know where this would go, but when I was driving around town, I heard Love's Theme by Love Unlimited Orchestra. Was that a song ever played on TWC?
Yep it played in 9/07 overnight
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2008, 06:39:04 PM
Don't know where this would go, but when I was driving around town, I heard Love's Theme by Love Unlimited Orchestra. Was that a song ever played on TWC?
I hear that song in stores occasionally. I heard it at Wawa (local convenience store) about a year ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2008, 07:23:42 PM
I heard the song "Wait a Minute" by Mark Krurnowski on Forecast Earth today
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 18, 2008, 07:51:43 PM
Too bad they don't play Blues Concerto from LUO around stores and stuff. It's my favorite song from them (kudos for Mike for having a video of it).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2008, 08:34:05 PM
Too bad they don't play Blues Concerto from LUO around stores and stuff. It's my favorite song from them (kudos for Mike for having a video of it).
That's a nice song too. I hope they play it on TWC again. I'm eager to hear more of Eddie Reasoner's stuff on TWC. Especially his new songs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 19, 2008, 07:35:49 PM
In Youtube, I found a new video of the IntelliStar from April 2005 @ Memphis, TN. It's was added 20 hours ago. The song is Oh Yeah by Brian Hughes. Thanks for the video who record it. :)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo (ftp://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo)

P.S. My first post with a link attached.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 19, 2008, 07:42:22 PM
In Youtube, I found a new video of the IntelliStar from April 2005 @ Memphis, TN. It's was added 20 hours ago. The song is Oh Yeah by Brian Hughes. Thanks for the video who record it. :)

The link is here. Thanks for the find!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 19, 2008, 09:14:05 PM
WOW I REMEMBER (AND LOVE) THAT SONG

Wasn't the March and April 05 playlist the same? Unlike some of the dual month playlists, it was awesome.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on May 19, 2008, 09:14:55 PM
WOW I REMEMBER (AND LOVE) THAT SONG

Wasn't the March and April 05 playlist the same? Unlike some of the dual month playlists, it was awesome.
Yes, it was.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 19, 2008, 09:15:11 PM
I could've sworn it was different, but I think quite a few songs carried over between months.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 19, 2008, 09:48:22 PM
The March 05 primetime had some of the most weirdest songs ever though.

Love of Strings freaked me out when I first heard it
There was another song, the song itself is vocal, but the vocal was removed on TWC. It had some rap feeling to it.
And I loved Soon Enough by Sammy Lincoln. It's one of those songs that fits the 1 minute LF after Storm Stories or WWCH, if you get what I'm saying.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on May 19, 2008, 09:54:22 PM

There was another song, the song itself is vocal, but the vocal was removed on TWC. It had some rap feeling to it.
Love by G. Love.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 19, 2008, 10:20:26 PM
That was one of them, but here's the song I was pointing to in specific called "Booty Calls"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B0002O09OQ001004/105-9998928-2026015
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 24, 2008, 12:45:42 PM
Does anyone have a complete list of retitled Doug Markley's songs?

The only ones I have found identifed (courtesy of Carlos)

were

In touch which is Forgiven
and North west which is Southwest.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on May 27, 2008, 07:30:16 PM
Okay, I'm going to be a complete jacka** now, but the School Day Forecast screen has been replaced with the Outdoor Activity Forecast screen during the week.  I thought that happened a lot later (like mid-June).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 27, 2008, 07:37:54 PM
Okay, I'm going to be a complete jacka** now, but the School Day Forecast screen has been replaced with the Outdoor Activity Forecast screen during the week.  I thought that happened a lot later (like mid-June).
I may be wrong, but I believe the School Day Forecast runs Labor Day through Memorial Day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 03, 2008, 06:47:08 PM
Since the weather channel is in HD already, I hope Traffic Pulse's gone already. It's nothing but rush power and traffic imorfation. I also don't want Traffic Pulse in Texas, either. I don't want Traffic Pulse in The Weather Channel in HD. I hope it's gone. :angry: It's has been on TWC since 2005. And also, almost every TWC Fans has CrapPulse. Who argeed with me that have Traffic Pulse?

EDIT: from now on, i will be calling CrapPulse instead of Traffic Pulse.:)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 03, 2008, 07:01:06 PM
TrafficPulse isn't going anywhere. When you start driving to work you'd probably couldn't live without it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on June 03, 2008, 07:03:56 PM
TrafficPulse isn't going anywhere. When you start driving to work you'd probably couldn't live without it.

I don't know about that, but it is useful, for sure.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on June 03, 2008, 07:05:28 PM
TrafficPulse isn't going anywhere. When you start driving to work you'd probably couldn't live without it.

But i bet we could live without the aggrivating narration of our local intellistar forecasts which i sure dear hope is sooner rather than later
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 03, 2008, 07:21:33 PM
TrafficPulse isn't going anywhere. When you start driving to work you'd probably couldn't live without it.

What if it doesn't cover your route? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on June 03, 2008, 07:25:27 PM
[...]

But i bet we could live without the aggrivating narration of our local intellistar forecasts which i sure dear hope is sooner rather than later
The narration is useful to the blind, and people not looking at the television screen during the forecast, however I have no use for it. To me, it is just useful noise.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on June 03, 2008, 08:25:01 PM
[...]

But i bet we could live without the aggrivating narration of our local intellistar forecasts which i sure dear hope is sooner rather than later
The narration is useful to the blind, and people not looking at the television screen during the forecast, however I have no use for it. To me, it is just useful noise.

well thats good in a sense but i hope I get TWC HD soon or i will be  :furious: at Comcast
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 03, 2008, 09:17:52 PM
TrafficPulse isn't going anywhere. When you start driving to work you'd probably couldn't live without it.
Laredo never Traffic Pulse, which is great. I'm glad that El Paso, TX, San Antonio,TX San Jose, CA, and Des Moines, IA dosen't has TP.

Rate for Traffic Pulse:5/10= OK.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 03, 2008, 09:50:00 PM
San Antonio doesn't have Traffic Pulse? That city has 1.8 million people! :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on June 03, 2008, 10:01:01 PM
TrafficPulse isn't going anywhere. When you start driving to work you'd probably couldn't live without it.
Laredo never Traffic Pulse, which is great. I'm glad that El Paso, TX, San Antonio,TX San Jose, CA, and Des Moines, IA dosen't has TP.

Rate for Traffic Pulse:5/10= OK.
Hang on. That can't be right. I've stayed in San Jose before, and they had traffic pulse. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 03, 2008, 10:08:21 PM
San Antonio has it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on June 04, 2008, 12:22:11 AM
yes, san antonio has had it for about a year now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 04, 2008, 05:00:29 PM
yes, san antonio has had it for about a year now.
More than a year, because one day I stayed at San antonio in Summer 2005 and they has Traffic Pulse.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 04, 2008, 07:39:43 PM
Then why did you say they had it? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 04, 2008, 07:44:02 PM
Then why did you say they had it? :huh:
He said they DIDN'T have it. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 13, 2008, 10:28:26 PM
Would anyone know what "Sandbox" and "Chain of Pearls" by yvonne ayers from 11/05 is retitled as on broadjam? thanks
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 20, 2008, 02:31:28 PM
I just saw a very weird 1 minute flavor:

Current Conditions
Local Observations
Metro Conditions
Radar/Satellite
Almanac
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 20, 2008, 03:01:29 PM
Another weird flavor:

Current Conditions
Metro Conditions
Local Observations
Regional Conditions
Regional Radar
Local Radar
Radar/Satellite


Apparently my STAR had just rebooted, causing all information to be lost. I recorded this and I'll have it on YouTube in a little bit.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 20, 2008, 03:31:43 PM
Flavors are pretty much back to normal now, but the forecast for today is still unavailable, thus the "our local forecast" narration is heard on the 48 hour forecast. I've recorded the past four LF's and I'll have them uploaded early next week.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 20, 2008, 06:52:03 PM
That exact same thing happened to me last October after an extended IS outage and reboot. I have a few videos of it up on my YouTube account.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 22, 2008, 01:31:50 AM
Do you guys think this (http://www.billywalshband.com/billy.html) may be the same Billy Walsh who did music for TWC, including My Bed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbut91Fuuew)?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on June 22, 2008, 01:40:32 AM
yes, san antonio has had it for about a year now.
More than a year, because one day I stayed at San antonio in Summer 2005 and they has Traffic Pulse.

i'm pretty certain we didn't get it in 2005...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on June 22, 2008, 09:55:50 AM
Do you guys think this ([url]http://www.billywalshband.com/billy.html[/url]) may be the same Billy Walsh who did music for TWC, including My Bed ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbut91Fuuew[/url])?


I thought it was, but I've tried contacting him several times, and have gotten no response.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 22, 2008, 11:42:48 AM
That is an awesome song. Wish I had it. It sounds a lot like 16th and Mission by Glenn McNulty
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 22, 2008, 07:39:13 PM
A recent comment for your humor:

"More vocal music tryouts are expected for the fall of 2008 because the Weather Channel people are permanently switching to vocal music on the new unit."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OLI3E32HgY&feature=email
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on June 22, 2008, 07:40:10 PM
LOL, why do people insist on spreading false rumors?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on June 22, 2008, 07:40:45 PM
A recent comment for your humor:

"More vocal music tryouts are expected for the fall of 2008 because the Weather Channel people are permanently switching to vocal music on the new unit."
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OLI3E32HgY&feature=email[/url]

I got a comment from that same guy in one of my videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt94zuHqFns
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on June 22, 2008, 07:41:12 PM
Wow, what a nutcase.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 22, 2008, 07:42:48 PM
A recent comment for your humor:

"More vocal music tryouts are expected for the fall of 2008 because the Weather Channel people are permanently switching to vocal music on the new unit."
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OLI3E32HgY&feature=email[/url]

I got a comment from that same guy in one of my videos: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt94zuHqFns[/url]

What a dumbass. He didn't even provide a source.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on June 22, 2008, 07:44:42 PM
I hope Sailing through the city by David Benoit is on the July 2008 Playlist
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 22, 2008, 08:00:53 PM
Its possible. TWC has been bringing back lots of old tunes this year like Broad Sreet by George Howard, Trade Winds by Eddie Reasoner. Both Sides by Roger Smith, Homeward Bound by Patrick oHearn, Cool in the Shade by Russ Freeman etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 23, 2008, 11:09:04 AM
Flavors are pretty much back to normal now, but the forecast for today is still unavailable, thus the "our local forecast" narration is heard on the 48 hour forecast. I've recorded the past four LF's and I'll have them uploaded early next week.


Here they are:

2:59 PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJtf3Ykqzww)
3:08 PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl363qLx5DU&feature=related)
3:18 PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gICfuyxnBzE&feature=related)
3:28 PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-JjBAFaIlE&feature=related)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 30, 2008, 03:00:13 PM
"Love of Strings" by Moby played at 2:59 PM. Isn't this song from the primetime playlist?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 30, 2008, 03:23:37 PM
"Love of Strings" by Moby played at 2:59 PM. Isn't this song from the primetime playlist?
it is. everyday at 2:58 they play primetime songs at that time. for almost a year now
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 30, 2008, 03:35:14 PM
it is. everyday at 2:58 they play primetime songs at that time. for almost a year now
Probably because long-form programming used to be in the Primetime time slot, and it's possible that the LFs during the long-form programming is still programmed to use songs from the Primetime playlist. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 30, 2008, 04:08:57 PM
Probably because long-form programming used to be in the Primetime time slot, and it's possible that the LFs during the long-form programming is still programmed to use songs from the Primetime playlist. :yes:
That's quite possible. I heard that same song at 3:59 PM ET as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 30, 2008, 08:58:47 PM
They also played overnight songs during 9:29PM EST during ICHT and FFN back in 2006. Those hours normally play primetime songs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 01, 2008, 02:06:54 AM
Strange, on the 12:58 AM CT LF, the IS cued as normal, but it froze, and stayed that way for a few seconds, and then went to a silent Satellite LF, then after a few minutes the audio came back on. I thought my IS had crashed for a second until my LDL came up just fine the next segment... :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on July 17, 2008, 02:41:56 PM
I think this LF song would be an awesome fit on any of the playlists anytime soon does anyone agree?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta7Npd6Dwtg&feature=related
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 17, 2008, 03:38:29 PM
I think this LF song would be an awesome fit on any of the playlists anytime soon does anyone agree?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta7Npd6Dwtg&feature=related[/url]

It's production music. TWC only plays BMI songs
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 17, 2008, 03:39:00 PM
I think this LF song would be an awesome fit on any of the playlists anytime soon does anyone agree?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta7Npd6Dwtg&feature=related[/url]

It's production music. TWC only plays BMI songs


They do?  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 17, 2008, 03:41:46 PM
Yep. Not all. Most are songs they licensed on BMI for their Local on the 8s. Some artists who dont have BMI will send their CD to TWC (like Michael Ripoll) and if Brian likes it, he'll play it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 17, 2008, 03:43:11 PM
I don't understand why that is, but OK.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on July 17, 2008, 03:43:58 PM
So, in one post, you say, (TWC only plays BMI music)

Then in the next post you say, (If Brian likes it, he'll play it).

Which is it? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 17, 2008, 03:44:49 PM
So, in one post, you say, (TWC only plays BMI music)

Then in the next post you say, (If Brian likes it, he'll play it).

Which is it? :huh:
Both. Brian will license BMI songs he likes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 17, 2008, 03:45:29 PM
So, in one post, you say, (TWC only plays BMI music)

Then in the next post you say, (If Brian likes it, he'll play it).

Which is it? :huh:
Both. Brian will license BMI songs he likes.

Brian doesn't license anything. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on July 17, 2008, 03:46:53 PM
TWC's licensing department does that. He just selects them.

I find it interesting that he has an open budget for music. Seems like that could get costly. :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 17, 2008, 03:57:18 PM
Yeah licensing 35 songs per month. I don't think I'd have enough money to do that.

But basically, most of the unavailable songs are in BMI that TWC uses. So sometimes the artists will send the music and they license it for usage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on July 17, 2008, 05:49:48 PM
I think this LF song would be an awesome fit on any of the playlists anytime soon does anyone agree?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta7Npd6Dwtg&feature=related[/url]

It's production music. TWC only plays BMI songs


Vic you never know they might play more music like this sooner or later
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ilovetarget91 on July 19, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
I have a question...are the following artists mainstream artists?

-Chris Geith
-Wayne Gerard
-Doug Markley
-Bernie Williams
-Mark Carter

Thanks
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 19, 2008, 01:24:27 PM
Yes, they all have CD's that are easily puchaseable anywhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 19, 2008, 01:27:55 PM
Some of their songs are hard to find or unavailable though, such as the more recently heard Chris Geith and Doug Markley songs, and Wayne Gerard's "I'm All About You."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 19, 2008, 01:29:16 PM
Doug Markley's songs can be found on iTunes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 20, 2008, 10:54:22 PM
Do we know the exact lineup of the new alternate Trammell playlist yet?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on July 20, 2008, 11:50:54 PM
Do we know the exact lineup of the new alternate Trammell playlist yet?
I don't think so. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 24, 2008, 01:34:08 PM
Has anyone been able to contact Billy Walsh who did "My Bed" and "Gone"?

I am trying to contact William T Walsh Junior but haven't gotten a repyl.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 24, 2008, 01:39:24 PM
Has anyone been able to contact Billy Walsh who did "My Bed" and "Gone"?

I am trying to contact William T Walsh Junior but haven't gotten a repyl.

Where did you find contact information for him? That's the guy, so its a shame he hasn't responded. I've tried too, but haven't gotten a response either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 24, 2008, 01:46:03 PM
From BMI. You can contact artists on BMI. BMI can give you contact info for any artist in their repertoire if you're lucky. They just won't give it to any Tom, Dick and Harry
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 24, 2008, 02:21:43 PM
Has anyone been able to contact Billy Walsh who did "My Bed" and "Gone"?

I am trying to contact William T Walsh Junior but haven't gotten a repyl.
Any other secrets you wish to share with the world? :rolleyes: :club:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 24, 2008, 02:28:02 PM
Has anyone been able to contact Billy Walsh who did "My Bed" and "Gone"?

I am trying to contact William T Walsh Junior but haven't gotten a repyl.
Yeah, I've tried as well and had no luck. I'd love to get My Bed. I've never heard "Gone" though (unless I did but don't remember how it sounded like).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 24, 2008, 02:37:57 PM
Has anyone been able to contact Billy Walsh who did "My Bed" and "Gone"?

I am trying to contact William T Walsh Junior but haven't gotten a repyl.
Any other secrets you wish to share with the world? :rolleyes: :club:
How is that a secret? :huh: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 24, 2008, 02:56:49 PM
From BMI. You can contact artists on BMI. BMI can give you contact info for any artist in their repertoire if you're lucky. They just won't give it to any Tom, Dick and Harry

And yourNOT any Tom, Dick, or Harry?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 24, 2008, 03:01:27 PM
Well i contacted him last time 3 weeks ago and didn't get anything.

I'm assuming he doesn't want to tell anything about his music
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 24, 2008, 09:19:42 PM
I'm just going to tack this on here...

I'm getting ready to update my sig with a new bar for TWCT (to match the new IStar LDL)...what's the font used again?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 24, 2008, 09:34:51 PM
Arial and Helvetica
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 24, 2008, 10:10:43 PM
From BMI. You can contact artists on BMI. BMI can give you contact info for any artist in their repertoire if you're lucky. They just won't give it to any Tom, Dick and Harry
Dude, I have a hard time getting contact info, how the hell can you pull it off?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 24, 2008, 10:12:08 PM
Like I said, it didn't work for me. It may work, becuase I have a BMI account, but I've only contacted BMI for that and got no reply. There not supposed to give out that info anyways so I'm not surprised BMI didn't reply.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 24, 2008, 11:20:41 PM
From BMI. You can contact artists on BMI. BMI can give you contact info for any artist in their repertoire if you're lucky. They just won't give it to any Tom, Dick and Harry
Dude, I have a hard time getting contact info, how the hell can you pull it off?

LOL, I don't know, but you would be more entitled to it than he.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 24, 2008, 11:29:00 PM
From BMI. You can contact artists on BMI. BMI can give you contact info for any artist in their repertoire if you're lucky. They just won't give it to any Tom, Dick and Harry
Dude, I have a hard time getting contact info, how the hell can you pull it off?
Who do you email when you contact BMI?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 24, 2008, 11:40:05 PM
Just found these WeatherSTAR 4000 video on YouTube from Bel Air, MD.  B) http://www.youtube.com/user/epzik8
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 24, 2008, 11:50:33 PM
FINALLY! A 4000 in this area! I've been waiting 4 years (or since the emulator come out) to find one so I could get an accurate regional observations map!  :dance: :dance:

I had no idea they had one in Bel Air though. Then again, it is a rather rural area, so maybe its not such a surprise.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 24, 2008, 11:56:32 PM
Just found these WeatherSTAR 4000 video on YouTube from Bel Air, MD.  B) [url]http://www.youtube.com/user/epzik8[/url]

That's strange that there's no sky CC or wind. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 24, 2008, 11:59:05 PM
Yeah, b/c it comes from the baltimore Inner Harber, which doesn't record sky conditions. If 4000's weren't so difficult to make changes to, they could of changed the CC site to Martin State Airport.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 25, 2008, 12:00:08 AM
Mike is correct. The Inner Harbor station has ever reported those conditions.

On a seperate note, is it really that diificult to change the reporting site on a 4000?  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 25, 2008, 12:02:29 AM
Mike is correct. The Inner Harbor station has ever reported those conditions.

On a seperate note, is it really that diificult to change the reporting site on a 4000?  :blink:
Yes, the Star Team has confirmed awhile back that it is difficult to make changes to 4000's these days. I don't understand why though, because it should be just as easy to make changes to it as it was when it was new. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 25, 2008, 12:05:43 AM
Sounds like an excuse to me.  :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 25, 2008, 12:43:33 AM
Am I going crazy, or did I watch a TWC video earlier today on YouTube of the the satellite IntelliStar rebooting, the satellite company (I think Dish) inserting commercials, then a satellite local forecast with no LDL? I swear I watched a video like that and now I can't find it! :wacko: :dunno:

EDIT: Found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsFmRchsQxA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 25, 2008, 01:48:11 AM
Mike is correct. The Inner Harbor station has ever reported those conditions.

On a seperate note, is it really that diificult to change the reporting site on a 4000?  :blink:
Yes, the Star Team has confirmed awhile back that it is difficult to make changes to 4000's these days. I don't understand why though, because it should be just as easy to make changes to it as it was when it was new. :wacko:

It's all in the software, XL / IS / IS2 are all controlled by Intel / PC Hardware and PC (modern) software, where as the 4000's deal with Intel Macro / Assembly Language, cant remember which I just know its a totally different system from what is used to edit the x86 systems, programming an IS deals with a software key change where as with the 4000 its like reprogramming a eeprom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEPROM) chip.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 25, 2008, 02:05:21 AM
So is the process of making changes to the XL basically the same as the IntelliStar, since both those units have a harddrive and OS (albeit different OS's)?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 25, 2008, 10:34:45 AM
Mike is correct. The Inner Harbor station has ever reported those conditions.

On a seperate note, is it really that diificult to change the reporting site on a 4000?  :blink:
Yes, the Star Team has confirmed awhile back that it is difficult to make changes to 4000's these days. I don't understand why though, because it should be just as easy to make changes to it as it was when it was new. :wacko:

It's all in the software, XL / IS / IS2 are all controlled by Intel / PC Hardware and PC (modern) software, where as the 4000's deal with Intel Macro / Assembly Language, cant remember which I just know its a totally different system from what is used to edit the x86 systems, programming an IS deals with a software key change where as with the 4000 its like reprogramming a eeprom ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEPROM[/url]) chip.


That is a rather difficult task then.  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 25, 2008, 12:28:20 PM
So is the process of making changes to the XL basically the same as the IntelliStar, since both those units have a harddrive and OS (albeit different OS's)?
Pretty much, its like the difference between editing a text file (easily done via remote software) vs. reprogramming a chip (diffucult via remote software).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 25, 2008, 12:32:49 PM
Is the junior also very difficult to make changes to?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on July 25, 2008, 12:40:14 PM
Is the junior also very difficult to make changes to?
Same boat as the 4000. There's no OS, and it uses EEPROMs aswell.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 25, 2008, 01:42:51 PM
I'm baffled Comcast of all cable companies, would carry a 4000
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 25, 2008, 01:46:41 PM
I'm baffled Comcast of all cable companies, would carry a 4000

I don't think its Comcast. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 25, 2008, 01:49:38 PM
I don't think its Comcast. :no:

It is. Look at the description of another 4000 clip from that area:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXPIsKl7oxc
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 25, 2008, 01:51:08 PM
Thats interesting. My aunt lives up there (yeah I'm not just saying this stuff for my health) and she's got Comcast, and an IS.  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 25, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
Well, there's another company down there called Clearview Cable. Maybe that's the company and he got mixed up. Unless, his Comcast headend is a small one that serves a portion of Bel Air, and Gary's aunt lives in a different portion of the town that's served by another headend.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 25, 2008, 01:55:31 PM
Thats interesting. My aunt lives up there (yeah I'm not just saying this stuff for my health) and she's got Comcast, and an IS.  :blink:
Bel Air, MD might have 2 different comcast headends. My area has two Comcast headends and their both 5 miles apart. The configuaration is also slightly different.

One of them might carry an  Intellistar and the other would carry a 4000
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 25, 2008, 01:56:26 PM
Well, there's another company down there called Clearview Cable. Maybe that's the company and he got mixed up. Unless, his Comcast headend is a small one that serves a portion of Bel Air, and Gary's aunt lives in a different portion of the town that's served by another headend.

I was going to say that I thought it was Clearview, but Stephen referred me to the comment just before I made the post.

But i it is Comcast I guess it IS possible that this guy and my aunt are served by two different headends.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 25, 2008, 01:58:24 PM
Yep, that's likely the case. I think Philadelphia also has several Comcast headends (I know there's a Center City one, a northeast one, a West Philly one, and possibly a few others).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 25, 2008, 02:13:53 PM
I'm not 100% sure yet. Clearview serves a decent portion of hat area. Maybe that guy will eventually join u and clarify the situation.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 25, 2008, 02:17:18 PM
Yeah, probably just two different headends. Comcast is notorious for that.

There use to be several here in Pittsburgh, until they consolidated into three headends.  :angry:

Before Spring 2007:

22420 - Metro Pittsburgh
22434 - Oakmont/Natrona Hts/New Kensington
22435 - Greensburg/Latrobe
22436 - Leechburg & vicinity
22437 - Coraopolis/Sewickley/PIT Int'l Arpt. area
22438 - Penn Hills
24114 - California/Portvue/Monessen
26163 - Monroeville
26164 - Murrysville-Plum
26165 - Bethel Park/Mt Lebanon/Upper St. Clair
26276 - Freeport area


NOW:
22420 - all of Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Fayette, Greene, Indiana, Washington, Westmoreland counties (except for the headend areas below)
22438 - Penn Hills
26164 - a larger combined area of Murrysville, Plum, Latrobe, Balirsville, and Ligonier

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 25, 2008, 02:24:12 PM
Wow, you must travel a lot to find out all of those ID's!  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 25, 2008, 02:28:03 PM
Its amazing how you guys live hundreds of miles away and pretty much assume this is the case. I only live 20-25 miles away and I'm not convinced just yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 25, 2008, 02:41:04 PM
Wow, you must travel a lot to find out all of those ID's!  :blink:
I have family spread throughout the entire Pittsburgh region. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ilovemikebettes on July 25, 2008, 02:43:10 PM
Wow,that must be nice. :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on July 25, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Back in the XL and early IS days, Chicago had at least 4 headends. Now we have 2, which is basically North and South.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 25, 2008, 11:07:55 PM
Philly still has dozens of Comcast headends, but that will probably change soon though. Comcast has combined headends in Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Miami, so it could happen to Philadelphia too. I just hope it doesn't happen anytime soon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 26, 2008, 12:45:08 AM
Philly still has dozens of Comcast headends, but that will probably change soon though. Comcast has combined headends in Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Miami, so it could happen to Philadelphia too. I just hope it doesn't happen anytime soon.
Seems like they've already started though... didn't the Bensalem and Levittown headends merge?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 26, 2008, 01:41:15 AM
Hmm, is it me or do the roads on the traffic overview maps look bolder than they used to?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 26, 2008, 10:18:03 AM
Mike, I saw that too. It seemed to be an error. I have a pic that I'll upload later on...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 26, 2008, 11:33:24 AM
On Weatherscan, it's only showing the bolder roads it on the first map, and not the second, zoomed in one. Weird.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 26, 2008, 02:18:17 PM
Now my Weatherscan zoomed in traffic map is a black background, with all white roads!  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on July 26, 2008, 02:24:09 PM
Now my Weatherscan zoomed in traffic map is a black background, with all white roads!  :blink:



that happens on my intellistar's Traffic map
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on July 26, 2008, 02:24:18 PM
Hey, what's up with Traffic Pulse? It's messed up on my IS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 27, 2008, 12:47:42 AM
Here's a screen shot (sorry for horrible quality - from my phone):

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/tylert120/0726080151a.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 27, 2008, 12:51:57 AM
Here's a screen shot (sorry for horrible quality - from my phone):

Maybe they just want you to know that those roads are really important. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 27, 2008, 12:55:58 AM
Still having problems with my map here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 27, 2008, 12:57:09 AM
Here's a screen shot (sorry for horrible quality - from my phone):

Maybe they just want you to know that those roads are really important. :P
Then they're highlighting the wrong roads. I-376 is most certainly the most important road on that map. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 27, 2008, 12:57:22 AM
speaking of which...are there any plans for the traffic maps to return to other Intellistars? i'm kinda pissed it didn't last long here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ilovemikebettes on July 27, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
I don't know.  I am to upset that id din't last long.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on July 27, 2008, 03:41:30 PM
I think it just depeneds in what kind of market you are in. I'm in the Providence/Boston area, so my Intellistar has TrafficPulse.

If you're somewhere in I don't know, Idaho, they probably wouldn't bother to put up TrafficPulse.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on July 29, 2008, 07:15:06 PM
Earlier, our STAR duplicated a traffic report:

Quote
Incident, Hwy-11 Gilcrease Exwy WB

[MEDIUM IMPACT] - at Memorial Dr - earlier accident is clear

Incident, Hwy-11 Gilcrease Exwy EB

[MEDIUM IMPACT] - at Memorial Dr - earlier accident is clear
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 29, 2008, 11:41:44 PM
Earlier, our STAR duplicated a traffic report:

Quote
Incident, Hwy-11 Gilcrease Exwy WB

[MEDIUM IMPACT] - at Memorial Dr - earlier accident is clear

Incident, Hwy-11 Gilcrease Exwy EB

[MEDIUM IMPACT] - at Memorial Dr - earlier accident is clear

That's because one report is for WB, one for EB.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 29, 2008, 11:50:31 PM
Earlier, our STAR duplicated a traffic report:

Quote
Incident, Hwy-11 Gilcrease Exwy WB

[MEDIUM IMPACT] - at Memorial Dr - earlier accident is clear

Incident, Hwy-11 Gilcrease Exwy EB

[MEDIUM IMPACT] - at Memorial Dr - earlier accident is clear

That's because one report is for WB, one for EB.

its kind of a waste of space (not to mention confusing)...can't they simply combine the two:

Incident, Hwy-11 Gilcrease Exwy WB & EB

[MEDIUM IMPACT] - at Memorial Dr - earlier accident is clear

btw did you ever get my pm on twcc?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 30, 2008, 12:16:57 AM
The problem is, the data comes from a third-party vendor, they [TWC] have no way of editing it. Traffic Pulse's response to this was - they have to keep it separate (EB & WB or NB & SB) as that's how their platform is built. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 30, 2008, 12:32:25 AM
The problem is, the data comes from a third-party vendor, they [TWC] have no way of editing it. Traffic Pulse's response to this was - they have to keep it separate (EB & WB or NB & SB) as that's how their platform is built. :thinking:

what a bunch of bull.  lol

is that what the star team told you?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 30, 2008, 12:33:42 AM
is that what the star team told you?
I believe they said it in the forums once when a complaint was posted about it awhile back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 31, 2008, 10:25:43 PM
Anyone else's IntelliStar radar been down all evening?

EDIT: The radar is back as the 12:08 AM LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 01, 2008, 12:56:18 AM
Yeah, same here. In addition, Weatherscan's estimated precip map was unavailable. It returned just after midnight tonight.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on August 01, 2008, 08:13:55 AM
there is no August 2008 playlist yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 01, 2008, 12:43:51 PM
I'm certain Chris Hoitsma is on vacation which is why he's not sending any playlists.

It's not a big deal though i'm hoping they'll post the august playlist on twc's site.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on August 01, 2008, 05:24:53 PM
I went to Seguin, TX last Friday and  they has an IntelliStar from New Braunfles with Traffic Pulse from San Antonio.

I remeber back in August 2007, I went to South Padre Island and they didn't had their own IntelliStar. Instead, they has it from Brownsville.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on August 02, 2008, 10:07:24 AM
I'm thinking most likely the new August playlist will start either Sunday or Monday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ilovemikebettes on August 02, 2008, 12:44:48 PM
I think it'll start on Monday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 02, 2008, 12:51:55 PM
I'm betting it'll start tomorrow. Most of the playlists this year so far started on a Sunday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on August 05, 2008, 07:20:22 PM
Satellite LF Temp text has changed colors, its now yellow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on August 06, 2008, 12:21:01 PM
As well, on the LDL... It now shows the words "HI:" in yellow, instead of white.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 06, 2008, 12:23:43 PM
As well, on the LDL... It now shows the words "HI:" in yellow, instead of white.
Those have always been in yellow, haven't they?  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 06, 2008, 12:47:25 PM
As well, on the LDL... It now shows the words "HI:" in yellow, instead of white.
Those have always been in yellow, haven't they?  :huh:
Nope.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on August 06, 2008, 04:21:34 PM
Traffic Report Today : notice the Unspecified on I-95 NB


(http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3010/intellistar8608py0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3010/intellistar8608py0.3920e43401.jpg) (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=378&i=intellistar8608py0.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 06, 2008, 04:41:09 PM
I think the Outdoor Activity Forecast might of been discontinued. I've been seeing the Air Quality Forecast at :08/:38 instead of the outdoor activity in the past week or two.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 07, 2008, 11:16:41 AM
I think the Outdoor Activity Forecast might of been discontinued. I've been seeing the Air Quality Forecast at :08/:38 instead of the outdoor activity in the past week or two.
I take that back, I'm still seeing it occasionally at :28/:58. Apparently the Air Quality Forecast has been put on a higher priority than the outdoor activity on the :08/:38 flavor. I wonder if this is a sign that it may be discontinued soon?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 07, 2008, 09:44:23 PM
Okay, so is anyone else's LDL out right now?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 07, 2008, 09:55:56 PM
Okay, so is anyone else's LDL out right now?

Yeah, mines is out right now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on August 07, 2008, 09:58:23 PM
I've been without an LDL on and off for the past hour... My station ID was also blank. (Dish)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on August 07, 2008, 10:01:31 PM
I've been without an LDL on and off for the past hour... My station ID was also blank. (Dish)
Last time I saw my LDL was at 9:25PM EST... It is now back, and was back at the 10:00PM EST Local.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 22, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
Found an XL video not far from Las Vegas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTu3OBCmRbY
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on August 22, 2008, 11:09:53 AM
You've got to be freakin kiddding me!! I was in Vegas last Saturday!!! :doh2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 22, 2008, 11:18:47 AM
I don't know why they are using Las Vegas as the CC site though. There's an ASOS in Bullhead City they can use. It isn't even in its local obs pages, when this site is in the XL's serving area. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 22, 2008, 12:43:29 PM
Told ya Nevada is chock full of older STARs :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 27, 2008, 11:19:07 PM
Anyone familiar with this IntelliStar?

(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5237/snapshot3569264si7.jpg)

Or this Weatherscan?

(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1554/snapshot3409367uz6.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 27, 2008, 11:30:25 PM
That's in the Philly area.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 27, 2008, 11:31:16 PM
That's in the Philly area.
Yeah, I know. Just wondering if anyone had seen either of these STARs before?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 27, 2008, 11:39:58 PM
I've seen that Weatherscan before...never the ISTAR. Where did you find the images/
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 27, 2008, 11:52:46 PM
I've seen that Weatherscan before...never the ISTAR. Where did you find the images/


This site: http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 28, 2008, 03:33:06 PM
I emailed TWC for the September 2008 Playlist and haven't gotten it yet :( Hopefully Chris will give it to me tomorrow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on August 28, 2008, 10:34:13 PM
I emailed TWC for the September 2008 Playlist and haven't gotten it yet :( Hopefully Chris will give it to me tomorrow.

Looking forward to that  :dance:

If anyone is interested I posted some more videos of the Intellistar at NASA Langley in Hampton, Va. It was somehow removed from TWCs database (according to the star support) had has not been updated since last year. I was shocked seeing that old ldl.  :P
http://www.youtube.com/user/mmcornick
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 29, 2008, 12:24:15 PM
I haven't gotten the 9/08 playlist yet. I'm not too concerned since TWC is usually slow to reply but does anyone else here have the playlist?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on August 29, 2008, 12:35:10 PM
I haven't gotten the 9/08 playlist yet. I'm not too concerned since TWC is usually slow to reply but does anyone else here have the playlist?

I doubt it. Or at least I'd hope that if someone did they would have posted it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 29, 2008, 06:10:11 PM
Neat. Just saw that York Airport is now the Almanac reporting site on my Hanover IntelliStar. Harrisburg International used to be the reporting site.

EDIT: It turns out the change was actually made two weeks ago, and I just noticed it now. :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 29, 2008, 06:14:08 PM
I haven't gotten the 9/08 playlist yet. I'm not too concerned since TWC is usually slow to reply but does anyone else here have the playlist?
It's not even September yet.  Chill.

(oof.  That was cranky.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 29, 2008, 06:53:51 PM
I haven't gotten the 9/08 playlist yet. I'm not too concerned since TWC is usually slow to reply but does anyone else here have the playlist?
It's not even September yet.  Chill.

(oof.  That was cranky.)
Huh?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 29, 2008, 08:28:38 PM
Interesting. I've seen that Marcus Hook Weatherscan before, but IMO Chester should be the CC site if that Weatherscan serves all of Delaware County. I don't think Marcus Hook is as popular as Chester.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 30, 2008, 01:12:14 PM
Has anyone been getting the precipitation counters on their LDL's almanac lately? I've haven't seen it on mine in weeks, and yes we've seen precip this month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 30, 2008, 01:15:50 PM
Has anyone been getting the precipitation counters on their LDL's almanac lately? I've haven't seen it on mine in weeks, and yes we've seen precip this month.
Yep, mine is still present. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 30, 2008, 01:17:17 PM
Hmm, that's odd. It's not displaying on either of my two IntelliStars or on the Belmar IntelliStar. I'll try reporting this to the Star Team.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on August 30, 2008, 01:17:43 PM
Whoa, since when has the precip counter shown on the intellistar? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 30, 2008, 01:20:09 PM
Whoa, since when has the precip counter shown on the intellistar? :huh:
Since always. ;)

IIRC, you don't get it because Watsonville doesn't report monthly precipitation.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 30, 2008, 01:20:56 PM
Whoa, since when has the precip counter shown on the intellistar? :huh:
On the "almanac" tab during national segments. If Watsonville doesn't report precip then maybe they can use Monterey, as that is not too far.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on August 30, 2008, 01:22:20 PM
Whoa, since when has the precip counter shown on the intellistar? :huh:
Since always. ;)

IIRC, you don't get it because Watsonville doesn't report monthly precipitation.
Wow, I've never seen that on ANY intellistar. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on August 30, 2008, 01:43:25 PM
Whoa, since when has the precip counter shown on the intellistar? :huh:
Since always. ;)

IIRC, you don't get it because Watsonville doesn't report monthly precipitation.
Wow, I've never seen that on ANY intellistar. :no:
Neither have I. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TV Shows Fan on August 31, 2008, 12:32:18 AM
Has anyone been getting the precipitation counters on their LDL's almanac lately? I've haven't seen it on mine in weeks, and yes we've seen precip this month.
Mine was doing the same thing it was gone on the 22nd and it came back doing sometime this week.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 31, 2008, 01:37:42 PM
Pardon my ignorance but what is a "precipitation counter"? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 31, 2008, 01:40:00 PM
The feature on the LDL that shows how much precipitation fell (not including snow) so far this month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 31, 2008, 01:56:50 PM
I haven't seen that at all this month on my intellistar.

I'm thinking about requesting my cable company to downgrade their star to a Junior. It could happen since Comcast was late to update my IS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 31, 2008, 01:58:07 PM
I'm thinking about requesting my cable company to downgrade their star to a Junior. It could happen since Comcast was late to update my IS.
ROFL... Good luck with that...  :rofl2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 31, 2008, 02:03:27 PM
Impossible. Cable companies (especially media giants like Comcast) don't like to hear the word "downgrade."

Besides, Comcast upgraded most of Philadelphia area XL's to the IntelliStars circa January-February 2004, before it even went out of beta. So they weren't late in upgrading.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 31, 2008, 02:04:50 PM
What about the Comcast headend in Sharon, pa? They had an IS and downgraded to an XL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 31, 2008, 02:06:34 PM
They could. The ppl in my headend could care less about TWC's STARs. They probably don't even watch TWC. :rolleyes: The Junior is way cheaper and look at my intellistar videos do you have ever see the Regional Doppler? It hardly rains/snows here so a radar is unnecessary. And a Junior lacks a radar.

If I had a Junior, I could enjoy narrationless LF Music along with a local forecast  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 31, 2008, 02:06:56 PM
No, that occured when the Adelphia headend there was aquired by Time Warner. Comcast never served Sharon, AFAIK.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 31, 2008, 02:09:17 PM
They could. The ppl in my headend could care less about TWC's STARs. They probably don't even watch TWC. :rolleyes: The Junior is cheaper and look at my intellistar videos? Do you have ever see the Regional Doppler? It hardly rains/snows here so a radar is unnecessary. And a Junior lacks a radar
We're not getting rain because we're in a dry spell, it doesn't mean we never get rain. There are some months where we gets tons of rain. We also get lots of precip in the winter because of nor'easters, and besides the average viewer wouldn't want a Junior. They use outdated hardware and software, and also hard to upgrade and make changes to because they have no harddrive or OS. The IntelliStar also has much more useful products, such as air quality and getaways, which satisfies the average viewer.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 31, 2008, 02:11:24 PM
But no one in area watches TWC. I can't tell you how many times I have heard offensive things about TWC from my neighbors and friends at school. Most common "TWC is gay". :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on August 31, 2008, 08:21:41 PM
It looks like TWC is now in "Storm Alert" mode, but they haven't thrown up the music on the LF. Also, they skipped a LF at the top of the hour, and they just ran a 1-minute LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 31, 2008, 08:49:39 PM
Huh.  This wasn't a typical 1M flavor.

CC/Metro/Busted Radar/Morning Comm/Afternoon Comm/24hr Forecast/Week Ahead.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 31, 2008, 08:51:35 PM
What about the Comcast headend in Sharon, pa? They had an IS and downgraded to an XL.
That XL has since been upgraded, and merged with other regional headends, and is now part of the "Grove City/Mercer/Slipper Rock" headend. And yes, that is how the LF pages are titled (with 3 cities).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC015 on August 31, 2008, 09:21:21 PM
My WeatherSTAR 4000 is currently having timing problems. It just showed the :58 screen with the cable provider at 8:17 with commercials playing in the background and then went to the local on the 8's with the commercials playing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 31, 2008, 09:27:26 PM
My WeatherSTAR 4000 is currently having timing problems. It just showed the :58 screen with the cable provider at 8:17 with commercials playing in the background and then went to the local on the 8's with the commercials playing.
Oooo...can you/did you get a video clip?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC015 on August 31, 2008, 09:28:59 PM
i did not get a video clip of that but i can of other local on the 8's
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 31, 2008, 09:32:39 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 31, 2008, 10:11:40 PM
They skipped yet another lf
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 31, 2008, 10:12:40 PM
They skipped yet another lf
They're skipping all the :08 and :38 local forecasts because the :00 and :30 segments are running for ten minutes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 31, 2008, 10:19:32 PM
IStar radar = still down
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 31, 2008, 10:22:36 PM
I wonder why the radars are down, mines has been down since SA started.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 31, 2008, 10:23:47 PM
I may be crazy, but I've noticed that when local forecasts seem to run off schedule, the IntelliStar radars seem to go down. I've seen it happen countless times before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on August 31, 2008, 11:26:31 PM
That's weird.  I wonder why that is...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 31, 2008, 11:33:38 PM
My sources say that gremlins are the problem.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on August 31, 2008, 11:35:41 PM
My sources say that gremlins are the problem.
That makes sense!

Also wheres my storm alert music :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on August 31, 2008, 11:45:46 PM
I noticed there was no local forecast at all at 11:38.
EDIT: Oops just noticed Billys post about that
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on September 01, 2008, 12:11:33 AM
I wonder why the radars are down, mines has been down since SA started.
AS of 12:11:01 AM, My ISTAR's Radar has 15 min. worth of data (Source: Weatherscan's Corner Radar)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 01, 2008, 12:20:26 AM
Mine is from the last 20 minutes, though it was definitely 15 at the time you posted that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on September 01, 2008, 02:49:34 AM
These flavors are so weird. It's making my IS wack-out. It didn't announce a few things and its not even showing traffic products.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on September 01, 2008, 08:29:55 AM
5:28 PST Storm Alert Music kicks in.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on September 01, 2008, 08:59:10 AM
Modified 2005 Storm alert @ 8:58am EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on September 01, 2008, 09:13:35 AM
They skipped the LF..........What the hell...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on September 01, 2008, 09:21:34 AM
8:18, they skipped another LF. This is rediculously unacceptable. <_< :censored: :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 01, 2008, 09:23:21 AM
I know same here they're only showing lfs at :28 and :58
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 01, 2008, 09:40:39 AM
So its unnacceptable for them to skip your local forecast to deal with Gustav? How self-centered of you.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 01, 2008, 10:25:18 AM
Well TWC could've ran 1 minute lfs at :08 and :18. They've done it before even with Katrina.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 01, 2008, 10:29:05 AM
It also looks like they are running the flavors with the almanac and getaway at :28/:58, when they are usually seen at :08/:38.

I think this is a great idea of skipping LF's. If I'm tired of it, there's always Weatherscan. :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 01, 2008, 10:36:17 AM
Well TWC could've ran 1 minute lfs at :08 and :18. They've done it before even with Katrina.

That's bullshit Vic. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 01, 2008, 10:56:44 AM
OK not a problem. B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on September 01, 2008, 10:59:30 AM
So its unnacceptable for them to skip your local forecast to deal with Gustav? How self-centered of you.
Not all of the 48 states are affected by this...

They could use their fancy dual-feed thingy, and skip locals there, but I want my LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on September 01, 2008, 11:00:14 AM
Storm Alert Music!  :clap:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 01, 2008, 11:00:39 AM
So its unnacceptable for them to skip your local forecast to deal with Gustav? How self-centered of you.
Believe it or not, not all of the 48 states are affected by this.

They could use their fancy dual-feed thingy, and skip locals there, but I want my LF.

No, but its far more important than your weather, which you can get from WxScan, or any of a million other avenues.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 01, 2008, 11:01:16 AM
No. People around the country are interested in Gustav, not just people on the Gulf Coast. Are you not aware that people in other parts of the country have interest or family connections in the gulf coast?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on September 01, 2008, 11:02:24 AM
So its unnacceptable for them to skip your local forecast to deal with Gustav? How self-centered of you.
Believe it or not, not all of the 48 states are affected by this.

They could use their fancy dual-feed thingy, and skip locals there, but I want my LF.

No, but its far more important than your weather, which you can get from WxScan, or any of a million other avenues.

Granted, it's an important/dangerous situation, but it hardly constitutes skipping the LF for EVERYONE in the country. Like I said, they could use their dual-feed. :yes: Besides, what's 12 minutes out of an hour's worth of programming? :dunno:

Also, I noticed the Storm Alert music is different than the one I remember. Did they change it?. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 01, 2008, 11:09:48 AM
the music on the LF? It has been used since 2006.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on September 01, 2008, 11:10:59 AM
the music on the LF? It has been used since 2006.
They must have changed it since 2005 then, cause I remember it being A LOT different when they were playing it for Katrina.

I liked the old one better. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 01, 2008, 11:12:44 AM
Yeah, the 2005 one had much more of a "hurricane" feel to it. the 2006-present music doesn't sound like hurricane music to me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 01, 2008, 11:13:01 AM
I think they have two Storm Alert themes, don't they? :unsure:  I've only heard one so far. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 01, 2008, 11:15:05 AM
So its unnacceptable for them to skip your local forecast to deal with Gustav? How self-centered of you.
Believe it or not, not all of the 48 states are affected by this.

They could use their fancy dual-feed thingy, and skip locals there, but I want my LF.

No, but its far more important than your weather, which you can get from WxScan, or any of a million other avenues.

Granted, it's an important/dangerous situation, but it hardly constitutes skipping the LF for EVERYONE in the country. Like I said, they could use their dual-feed. :yes: Besides, what's 12 minutes out of an hour's worth of programming? :dunno:

Also, I noticed the Storm Alert music is different than the one I remember. Did they change it?. :huh:

It's a shame your so selfish. You really ought to be ashamed of yourself for putting yourself before alot of other people who appreciate what TWC is doing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 01, 2008, 11:15:15 AM
Yeah they had two in 2006-2007. It looks like they are only using the one theme from that year now. I was hoping they'd use new music this season though. The music they are using on the LF doesn't match with the current storm alert/hurricane opener music at all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 01, 2008, 11:31:09 AM
Yeah they had two in 2006-2007. It looks like they are only using the one theme from that year now.
Nope, they are indeed using both of the 2006 Storm Alert LF themes this year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on September 01, 2008, 11:40:30 AM
Wait, they're playing more than one Storm Alert theme? :huh:

So its unnacceptable for them to skip your local forecast to deal with Gustav? How self-centered of you.
Believe it or not, not all of the 48 states are affected by this.

They could use their fancy dual-feed thingy, and skip locals there, but I want my LF.

No, but its far more important than your weather, which you can get from WxScan, or any of a million other avenues.

Granted, it's an important/dangerous situation, but it hardly constitutes skipping the LF for EVERYONE in the country. Like I said, they could use their dual-feed. :yes: Besides, what's 12 minutes out of an hour's worth of programming? :dunno:

Also, I noticed the Storm Alert music is different than the one I remember. Did they change it?. :huh:

It's a shame your so selfish. You really ought to be ashamed of yourself for putting yourself before alot of other people who appreciate what TWC is doing.
Again, what's 12 minutes out of an hour...I'm focusing on the logical aspect, not personal.

What's funny, an hour or 2 ago, Mike Bettes was reporting, and said the maximum wind gust that he recorded was 40 MPH.  :rofl2: But who knows, It could have increased dramatically since then. I'm really not following closely. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 01, 2008, 11:54:11 AM
Wait, they're playing more than one Storm Alert theme? :huh:

So its unnacceptable for them to skip your local forecast to deal with Gustav? How self-centered of you.
Believe it or not, not all of the 48 states are affected by this.

They could use their fancy dual-feed thingy, and skip locals there, but I want my LF.

No, but its far more important than your weather, which you can get from WxScan, or any of a million other avenues.

Granted, it's an important/dangerous situation, but it hardly constitutes skipping the LF for EVERYONE in the country. Like I said, they could use their dual-feed. :yes: Besides, what's 12 minutes out of an hour's worth of programming? :dunno:

Also, I noticed the Storm Alert music is different than the one I remember. Did they change it?. :huh:

It's a shame your so selfish. You really ought to be ashamed of yourself for putting yourself before alot of other people who appreciate what TWC is doing.
Again, what's 12 minutes out of an hour...I'm focusing on the logical aspect, not personal.

What's funny, an hour or 2 ago, Mike Bettes was reporting, and said the maximum wind gust that he recorded was 40 MPH.  :rofl2: But who knows, It could have increased dramatically since then. I'm really not following closely. :yes:

The bad side of the hurricane hasn't reached land yet. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on September 01, 2008, 11:56:32 AM
One side is stronger than the other? I always thought the strength of a Hurricane was always evenly distributed.

Just goes to show how much I know about Tropical Weather. :rofl2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 01, 2008, 11:57:09 AM
One side is stronger than the other? I always thought the strength of a Hurricane was always evenly distributed.

Just goes to show how much I know about Tropical Weather. :rofl2:

Nope. The worst part of the storm is on the back end of the eye. It's always worse after the eye than before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 01, 2008, 12:52:26 PM
How long will the storm alert music on the lf last for?

If my mind serves me right, last time for Ernesto it was for 2 days.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 01, 2008, 01:01:41 PM
How long will the storm alert music on the lf last for?

If my mind serves me right, last night on Ernesto it was for 2 days.
I would expect it to last until Gustav looses hurricane status.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on September 01, 2008, 04:18:45 PM
Now would be the perfect time for them to figure out a :30 Local again.

CC/Radar/(Daypart)Forecast/Week Ahead.

Boom.  There it is.  They can piggyback it after a segment.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 05, 2008, 11:05:11 PM
A Wind Advisory crawl is currently running on my IntelliStar, and all "C"s on the crawl were replaced with small "6"s.

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4900/snapshot20080905230241rf6.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on September 05, 2008, 11:41:25 PM
Wow, that's pretty 6razy...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 05, 2008, 11:44:14 PM
I smell degradation.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 05, 2008, 11:47:27 PM
I smell degradation.
I don't. I smell a glit6h.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Thecoolwriter on September 05, 2008, 11:53:21 PM
What in the world?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on September 06, 2008, 12:17:43 AM
The Intellistar doesn't use the same dated technology to generate the graphi6s as the 4000 does; I wouldn't expe6t it to suffer nearly the same problems as the 4000.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 06, 2008, 12:20:12 AM
In 6ase anyone's interested, here is a video if the 6rawl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkZc2jIZ9D4
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 06, 2008, 10:38:01 PM
Hey Gary, is this your IntelliStar? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZowjTlm9Go
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 06, 2008, 10:40:51 PM
Hey Gary, is this your IntelliStar? :D

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZowjTlm9Go[/url]


Why, yes, it is.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 06, 2008, 11:08:00 PM
Quick IntelliStar Marine Forecast question:

What happens when the text of the Marine Forecast is long enough that it goes to the end of the first page? Does the remaining text overflow to a second page or is the text simply truncated at the end of the first page?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 06, 2008, 11:27:01 PM
Marine Forecast only has one page. There have been cases where an advisory would be so long or so many advisories in effect that the actual marine forecast doesn't have room to display.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 06, 2008, 11:30:00 PM
Hmm... why isn't the weather bulletin on my IntelliStar not showing? There's still a flood watch in effect...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on September 06, 2008, 11:54:23 PM
Quick IntelliStar Marine Forecast question:

What happens when the text of the Marine Forecast is long enough that it goes to the end of the first page? Does the remaining text overflow to a second page or is the text simply truncated at the end of the first page?
There is no second page. I've seen one instance during a major storm here where the weather info doesn't fit on one page, and it just cuts off.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 18, 2008, 04:21:19 PM
Holy macaroni!! :o

I saw a teacher today at my school who looks EXACTLY like Jeanne Ricks! Spooky :blink: Maybe it was Jeanne in disguise at my school.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 20, 2008, 10:33:36 AM
Has anyone seen "sprinkles" in the forecast? It's showing up here and it uses the few showers icon. I haven't seen sprinkles being used in years! :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on September 20, 2008, 11:19:28 AM
Has anyone seen "sprinkles" in the forecast? It's showing up here and it uses the few showers icon. I haven't seen sprinkles being used in years! :o
Yeah, they use it every now and then. I haven't seen it regularly since 2005-06.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 20, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
It's still showing up here. I hope it stays on there tomorrow night when I see what the text-based forecasts say for sprinkles.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on September 21, 2008, 06:30:56 PM
This may sound silly, but does anyone know if BMI has a way to ID songs? I was thinking about asking them to try and ID a couple unknown TWC songs...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 21, 2008, 06:34:44 PM
This may sound silly, but does anyone know if BMI has a way to ID songs? I was thinking about asking them to try and ID a couple unknown TWC songs...
You can give it a try, wouldn't hurt. I doubt they can help though it's not like BMI has some special software that can identify any song in its repertoire.

As for those unknown Nov06/Feb07/Apr07 songs contacting Steve Hurst IMHO is the best idea. Matt gave me his email a while back but I can't seem to find it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on September 21, 2008, 06:39:36 PM
This may sound silly, but does anyone know if BMI has a way to ID songs? I was thinking about asking them to try and ID a couple unknown TWC songs...
You can give it a try, wouldn't hurt. I doubt they can help though it's not like BMI has some special software that can identify any song in its repertoire.

As for those unknown Nov06/Feb07/Apr07 songs contacting Steve Hurst IMHO is the best idea. Matt gave me his email a while back but I can't seem to find it.
I have tried absolutely every possible way to ID those songs. I tried contacting Brian Picard and Tony Fulkerson, but they claim they didn't keep music records then. And Steve Hurst's email no longer works. I also tried using my BMI pattern to try and ID the songs, but my guess is that the artist is not published by supermax music. I've even tried searching on google and myspace for someone linking and identifying those songs, but have turned up nothing. I even gave clips to Gary with hopes that the artist might come here. So contacting BMI would be my absolute last resort.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on September 21, 2008, 07:00:43 PM
BMI would know nothing. They don't hold music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 21, 2008, 07:09:03 PM
But it's worth a try. I'm desperate for that song from November 2006 that we've been looking for forever.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 21, 2008, 07:12:53 PM
Unfortunately I have to side with the folks who say BMI won't know. I just can't imagine anyone being able to identify a song from a clip. Its not like they intimately know every song by every artist in their repertoire.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on September 21, 2008, 07:18:48 PM
Aww crap. :( I guess now it's offical, those 5 songs are lost forever. :cry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 21, 2008, 07:30:23 PM
Yeah it doesn't seem possible for BMI to ID songs, way too many songs in their repertoire. Have you tried asking Brian if he can contact Steve for you?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on September 21, 2008, 07:34:59 PM
Yeah it doesn't seem possible for BMI to ID songs, way too many songs in their repertoire. Have you tried asking Brian if he can contact Steve for you?
It probably won't do any good, but it's worth a shot. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 21, 2008, 07:37:16 PM
Try it please. Brian can always contact Steve. Brian needs to convince Steve that he needs the following songs from April 2007 and November 2006 identified.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on September 21, 2008, 07:41:51 PM
Try it please. Brian can always contact Steve. Brian needs to convince Steve that he needs the following songs from April 2007 and November 2006 identified.
I just sent the email.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 21, 2008, 07:45:45 PM
Excellent!! Hopefully he should reply tomorrow. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 22, 2008, 12:09:11 PM
The 12:08 PM ET local forecast had no LOT8s opener before it.

Went right from commercial to LF. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 22, 2008, 12:35:44 PM
The 12:08 PM ET local forecast had no LOT8s opener before it.

Went right from commercial to LF. :huh:

That certainly is unusual.  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 22, 2008, 01:39:23 PM
Then at 1:30 PM ET, the LOT8s sponsorship ad played after the local forecast and before Day Planner resumed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 22, 2008, 05:30:25 PM
Then at 1:30 PM ET, the LOT8s sponsorship ad played after the local forecast and before Day Planner resumed.
And they did it again at 5:30 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 22, 2008, 05:33:47 PM
They did it at 4:30 too... and before the :08/:38 LF's, they are using the generic LOT8's sponsorship graphics even though the narrator mentions that the sponsor is celebrating the first day of fall.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 22, 2008, 07:53:16 PM
Has anyone got any luck in getting Andrew Korus's "Hello There" ?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on September 22, 2008, 08:34:26 PM
That's like asking if anyone has hit the lottery.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 22, 2008, 08:35:20 PM
Has anyone got any luck in getting Andrew Korus's "Hello There" ?
We'll never get that song. People have tried contacting him over the phone and they either get negative responses or no answer.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on September 22, 2008, 09:27:51 PM
I got nothing from Brian or Steve yet. :( I need more suggestions as to how I could ID those 5 songs..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 23, 2008, 03:31:01 PM
Hack into TWC's Music Computer :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on September 23, 2008, 10:52:44 PM
I am almost certain that the latin one is an unreleased Anthony James Baker song. His music was used that month, and frequently, artists have more than one song of theirs airing during a playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 28, 2008, 12:59:03 PM
Did "Above the Serengeti" by Palomino Duck previously air on TWC Besides this month? If so, which playlist?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 01, 2008, 11:30:24 AM
My IntelliStar is currently showing night icons for the current conditions...at 11:28 AM!  :wacko:

Edit, and it's happening on weather.com, too...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 01, 2008, 10:00:06 PM
I see they are airing the one minute flavors during WWCH now. Didn't they used to show 1:30 flavors?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 01, 2008, 10:02:52 PM
I see they are airing the one minute flavors during WWCH now. Didn't they used to show 1:30 flavors?
Yeah, I noticed that, too.  :wacko:

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on October 02, 2008, 06:44:12 PM
I grabbed this around the time of the Olympics. August 16 through the 17th iirc... there was a glitch in this background image on my IntelliStar (21873 - Camden)... It had lasted for about a day until the Star was taken down about 4am to fix the image.

I apologize for the TiVo progress bar on the screen...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 02, 2008, 06:49:48 PM
I grabbed this around the time of the Olympics. August 16 through the 17th iirc... there was a glitch in this background image on my IntelliStar (21873 - Camden)... It had lasted for about a day until the Star was taken down about 4am to fix the image.

I apologize for the TiVo progress bar on the screen...
Wow I had no idea you lived in my area! I have a Slingbox myself too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on October 02, 2008, 07:00:06 PM
I grabbed this around the time of the Olympics. August 16 through the 17th iirc... there was a glitch in this background image on my IntelliStar (21873 - Camden)... It had lasted for about a day until the Star was taken down about 4am to fix the image.

I apologize for the TiVo progress bar on the screen...
Wow I had no idea you lived in my area! I have a Slingbox myself too.

Something about your username led me to think that.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 02, 2008, 07:54:18 PM
I grabbed this around the time of the Olympics. August 16 through the 17th iirc... there was a glitch in this background image on my IntelliStar (21873 - Camden)... It had lasted for about a day until the Star was taken down about 4am to fix the image.

I apologize for the TiVo progress bar on the screen...
That same thing happened (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,1195.0.html) to my IntelliStar back in July!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 02, 2008, 08:02:07 PM
Weird... I wonder if this happened to mine as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 02, 2008, 10:19:37 PM
I don't remember having a glitch like that on my IS except for the comment I made a couple months ago about the radar showing rainbow colors. :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on October 04, 2008, 12:57:43 PM
Does anyone know what the XL LDL shows during shows such as ICHT, FFN, or WWCH?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Robert on October 04, 2008, 01:33:20 PM
Does anyone know what the XL LDL shows during shows such as ICHT, FFN, or WWCH?

It shows usually an hour by hour forecast of the current day or next day, depending on what time it is during the day, then it shows the weather forecast for the next three days, I think, and then the current conditions. I'm not sure since I don't watch those shows much, but I'm confident that the ldl does show that during those shows... :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 04, 2008, 01:35:03 PM
Does anyone know what the XL LDL shows during shows such as ICHT, FFN, or WWCH?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeHRolkDO2c
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on October 04, 2008, 03:12:54 PM
Curious question... any reason why the XL didn't get the new weather icons? Not that I like the new icons, because I still don't after almost 2 years...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on October 04, 2008, 03:17:30 PM
Curious question... any reason why the XL didn't get the new weather icons? Not that I like the new icons, because I still don't after almost 2 years...
I would guess the hardware wouldn't support it. Or (more likely) TWC wanted to keep large differences between the XL and IS to encourage cable companies to upgrade their units.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 04, 2008, 08:28:46 PM
The new icons would look horrible on the XL. :sick:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on October 04, 2008, 08:40:33 PM
Does anyone have a clip with the XL sleet icon? I need it to see in what direction the little sleet pellets move for my emulator.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 04, 2008, 08:41:54 PM
The sleet pellets moved straight down, I believe.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on October 04, 2008, 09:13:00 PM
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=K_EqGjVN6Ew
Wind Advisory!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ilovemikebettes on October 04, 2008, 09:28:44 PM
It's probably gonna be a windy night for you.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 04, 2008, 09:55:13 PM
It's probably gonna be a windy night for you.
What in the hell gave you that idea?  :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ilovemikebettes on October 04, 2008, 09:56:04 PM
It's probably gonna be a windy night for you.
What in the hell gave you that idea?  :bleh:
narunetto saying there was a wind advisory.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 04, 2008, 10:33:00 PM
When I was at the dentist's in Huntingdon Valley, PA last week, they had me choose what to have on TV so I tuned to TWC. The local forecast was from Willow Grove. Oddly enough, their IntelliStar uses the same exact metro map mine had until last March.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 04, 2008, 10:34:40 PM
When I was at the dentist's in Huntingdon Valley, PA last week, they had me choose what to have on TV so I tuned to TWC. The local forecast was from Willow Grove. Oddly enough, their IntelliStar used the same exact metro map mine used to show until last March.
I always tune into TWC whenever i'm in the hospital in Wilmington DE. They're intellistar serves more of SE PA...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on October 04, 2008, 10:35:06 PM
It's probably gonna be a windy night for you.
What in the hell gave you that idea?  :bleh:
Hahaha :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 04, 2008, 10:36:11 PM
I always tune into TWC whenever i'm in the hospital in Wilmington DE. They're intellistar serves more of SE PA...
Is it the Drexel Hill/Delaware County, PA IntelliStar?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 04, 2008, 10:36:40 PM
I always tune into TWC whenever i'm in the hospital in Wilmington DE. They're intellistar serves more of SE PA...
Is it the Drexel Hill/Delaware County, PA IntelliStar?
No Aston/West Chester PA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 04, 2008, 10:37:27 PM
Really, in Delaware? I figured Wilmington would have their own Star. West Chester is pretty far away.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 04, 2008, 10:43:43 PM
They do, they have 2 seperate stars
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 05, 2008, 09:51:29 PM
This is odd... at some point last week, the retired-22434 (New Kensington headend) was brought back! This area had been seeing 22420 since mid-2006! Wonder what made Comcast bring it back all of a sudden?

I should also note that this STAR has been reconfigured since it was decommissioned. It still serves the same area, but has a different metro map, as well as different radar cities. The forecast title is now "ALLEGHENY VALLEY AREA" as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 05, 2008, 09:53:08 PM
Wow, weird that it's the same ID# too!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 05, 2008, 09:54:14 PM
Well, Comcast still had the STAR in its possession, it was just no longer in use. I wonder if other STARs in the area decommissioned at the same time were brought back...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 05, 2008, 10:10:28 PM
My LDL just qued during the LOT8's opener, though the LF played fine after that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 05, 2008, 10:42:56 PM
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVLSR7arszs

Volume's a bit loud. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 06, 2008, 04:10:10 PM
You can soon get Chris Geith's unavailable TWC songs on Broadjam! :thrilled:
http://www.broadjam.com/artists/home.php?artistID=55311
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 06, 2008, 04:11:00 PM
Cool, can't wait to see High Season on it!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 06, 2008, 04:28:54 PM
Cool, can't wait to see High Season on it!
Me too! I want Metropolis and Fast Forward too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on October 06, 2008, 06:42:36 PM
Awesome!!! I can't wait for "Island of a Thousand Dreams", "Metropolis", "High Season", "Fast Forward", "Tales and Legends", and "Good Looks"! :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on October 06, 2008, 09:34:10 PM
This is odd... at some point last week, the retired-22434 (New Kensington headend) was brought back! This area had been seeing 22420 since mid-2006! Wonder what made Comcast bring it back all of a sudden?

I should also note that this STAR has been reconfigured since it was decommissioned. It still serves the same area, but has a different metro map, as well as different radar cities. The forecast title is now "ALLEGHENY VALLEY AREA" as well.
Wow that is odd :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: texasstooge on October 07, 2008, 12:37:58 AM
This is odd... at some point last week, the retired-22434 (New Kensington headend) was brought back! This area had been seeing 22420 since mid-2006! Wonder what made Comcast bring it back all of a sudden?

I should also note that this STAR has been reconfigured since it was decommissioned. It still serves the same area, but has a different metro map, as well as different radar cities. The forecast title is now "ALLEGHENY VALLEY AREA" as well.
Could this mean that IntelliStar #22107 serving the Irving-Grapevine-Coppell areas be brought back into commission? Would be nice though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 07, 2008, 04:48:18 PM
Doubt it, especially since you have a different cable company than him.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 09, 2008, 01:17:42 PM
Do we know if it is Brian Picard who chose what Trammell songs to air on the emergency feed, or was it chosen by someone else?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 09, 2008, 01:24:37 PM
Do we know if it is Brian Picard who chose what Trammell songs to air on the emergency feed, or was it chosen by someone else?

From when I emailed Brian back in May:

Quote from: Brian Picard
We run a backup loop of Trammell Starke songs that play automatically when we experience problems with our automation system.   The songs are from our library of TS cuts, from which I created a loop of about 20 tracks.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 11, 2008, 12:09:15 PM
Is anyone's national audio (including the music) much quieter than the IntelliStar narration?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on October 11, 2008, 12:09:39 PM
Is anyone's national audio (including the music) much quieter than the IntelliStar narration?
I noticed that last night. It's awful.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 11, 2008, 12:25:54 PM
Yes, it's worser on the national feed. The narration for the Lot8s intro is extremely loud then the music fades very quietly during the lf.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Robert on October 11, 2008, 12:30:30 PM
A lot of the audio on TWC has been really odd lately.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 11, 2008, 12:52:47 PM
What is wrong with the National IntelliSTAR? :wacko:
It has some BIG TIME cuing issues with the station ID (ignore emulator clip I inserted).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN1m1Rjyl8k&fmt=18
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 11, 2008, 12:58:01 PM
Do you guys think Brian Picard will make a "best of" December 2008 playlist?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Thecoolwriter on October 11, 2008, 01:24:55 PM
I don't know, but he needs to because the playlists so far have been great
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 11, 2008, 01:27:28 PM
He didn't last year, so he probably won't this year either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 12, 2008, 04:19:26 PM
Cool, can't wait to see High Season on it!
Me too! I want Metropolis and Fast Forward too.
Ugh it's been nearly a week and Chris still didn't upload any new songs <_< Maybe I should email him again...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 12, 2008, 04:41:46 PM
Ugh it's been nearly a week and Chris still didn't upload any new songs <_< Maybe I should email him again...
Me? :huh:

EDIT: NM. Chris Geith. :rofl2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 12, 2008, 04:42:24 PM
:rofl2:

Not you silly, Chris GEITH.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 12, 2008, 04:44:58 PM
:rofl2:

Not you silly, Chris GEITH.
Sorry. I'll edit the post, Vic. :( :hmm:

But "UPLOAD was the key word that got me. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 12, 2008, 04:49:07 PM
rofl i dont even know ur email
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on October 12, 2008, 05:39:50 PM
How do you know that Chris will be uploading his unavailable songs to broadjam? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on October 12, 2008, 06:26:57 PM
Speaking of unavailable songs, wasn't Leon Ayers supposed to release "Get Back", aka "Pressing On" this year? :unsure: :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on October 12, 2008, 06:35:13 PM
Speaking of unavailable songs, wasn't Leon Ayers supposed to release "Get Back", aka "Pressing On" this year? :unsure: :huh:
Yeah, he is. I *think* he still plans on releasing it this year, but then again, I haven't talked to him in months.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on October 12, 2008, 06:41:32 PM
Hope he does. I love that song! :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 12, 2008, 07:11:52 PM
Chris sent me an email awhile back after I asked him if GoodLooks was available. Can one of you contact Leon and see if he will release his TWC songs in a new CD? I LOVE "Other Side of Blue" and "On My Own".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 14, 2008, 06:47:20 PM
Interesting someone one iTunes submitted a playlist available for public view called "Great Music futured on The Weather Channel iMix". Interesting I never saw that before. It has 56 songs from artists like Chris Geith, Nick Colionne, Tony Yardley, Derek Harris, max Groove and Fred Gross.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 14, 2008, 08:03:28 PM
iMix? Never heard of that before. Where on iTunes did you find this?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 14, 2008, 08:05:00 PM
Search for "More Than You Think" by Derek Harris on itunes and on the results, on the right side of the page u should see a playlist that says "Great Music featured on the Weather Channel".

Not sure who made it but it could be someone here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 14, 2008, 08:08:28 PM
I searched for it and didn't see any playlists on there that say "Great Music featured on TWC" :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 14, 2008, 08:09:41 PM
I can post a link to it but IDK how to post an iTunes link.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 14, 2008, 08:11:21 PM
iTunes doesn't use URLs. Can you post a screenshot of what you see?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 14, 2008, 08:17:40 PM
iTunes doesn't use URLs. Can you post a screenshot of what you see?

ok

(http://vicb14.googlepages.com/imix.JPG)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 14, 2008, 08:19:16 PM
Ah, looks like this is something new in iTunes 8, which I don't have. I'll install it now...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 14, 2008, 08:20:02 PM
Ah, looks like this is something new in iTunes 8, which I don't have. I'll install it now...
Nope I've seen this in iTunes 6 as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on October 14, 2008, 08:21:20 PM
I've NEVER seen that before. Pretty cool though. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 14, 2008, 08:25:21 PM
here are some more:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 14, 2008, 08:25:46 PM
Nevermind, I found it. B)

Great songs he chose there. I wonder who submitted it? They don't say who submits the playlists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 14, 2008, 08:38:26 PM
I'm curious too . Maybe that mostpopular87 guy since he made several playlists on IMEEM.x
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on October 15, 2008, 04:47:42 PM
Interesting someone one iTunes submitted a playlist available for public view called "Great Music futured on The Weather Channel iMix". Interesting I never saw that before. It has 56 songs from artists like Chris Geith, Nick Colionne, Tony Yardley, Derek Harris, max Groove and Fred Gross.

That was yours truly who created that iMix that you saw :P  B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 15, 2008, 04:50:03 PM
Good choices you picked! B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 15, 2008, 06:17:30 PM
Interesting someone one iTunes submitted a playlist available for public view called "Great Music futured on The Weather Channel iMix". Interesting I never saw that before. It has 56 songs from artists like Chris Geith, Nick Colionne, Tony Yardley, Derek Harris, max Groove and Fred Gross.

That was yours truly who created that iMix that you saw :P  B)
Wow Chuck i'm very impressed with your choices! They are awesome :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 19, 2008, 08:45:44 PM
I was wondering, who assembles the playlists? Brian Picard or Chris Hoitsma?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 19, 2008, 09:30:40 PM
I was wondering, who assembles the playlists? Brian Picard or Chris Hoitsma?
Brian Picard. He's the music programmer. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 23, 2008, 10:48:24 AM
Today is the one-year anniversary of the IntelliStar version 2 upgrade.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 23, 2008, 06:26:54 PM
Today is the one-year anniversary of the IntelliStar version 2 upgrade.
I remembered. I saw this live on the Wilmington, DE IS. I liked it! I wish the blue font would come back , the black font looks a bit ugly.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on October 23, 2008, 07:14:15 PM
Today is the one-year anniversary of the IntelliStar version 2 upgrade.

Hard to believe its been that long already!  :blink: :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 24, 2008, 01:22:34 AM
So for some reason, my IntelliStar (actually HiRAD) is reporting Light Snow. I just looked out the window, and it's clear.  :thinking: :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on October 24, 2008, 05:45:00 PM
the LF just started up during normal programming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 24, 2008, 05:46:55 PM
Then they aborted the LF about 1:40 into it, and the IS LF LDL cued during commercials.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 25, 2008, 04:18:05 PM
If I can eat at my grandmother's on Friday, I might be able to get my tuner over there and record 24629. B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 25, 2008, 04:54:16 PM
If I can eat at my grandmother's on Friday, I might be able to get my tuner over there and record 24629. B)
Can't wait to see it!

BTW, will you have DirecTV in your new house in Tampa too?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 25, 2008, 04:55:49 PM
If I can eat at my grandmother's on Friday, I might be able to get my tuner over there and record 24629. B)
Can't wait to see it!

BTW, will you have DirecTV in your new house in Tampa too?
:yes: (Damn It! :doh2:)

But when I get enough money, I might personally subscribe to Bright House Networks. And sorry Mike, there's no WeatherSCAN. :( :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 27, 2008, 05:18:19 PM
I can't wait to hear the November playlist. So far, the Novembers of every year had excellent playlists. ^_^
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 02, 2008, 07:28:57 PM
I do apologize about not getting that IntelliSTAR. :sing:

We had issues with my brother's brakes. :rolleyes:

I told him that they were failing, and he said tht they weren't. :rolleyes:

But then they totally popped off a few days ago. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 02, 2008, 07:37:53 PM
I do apologize about not getting that IntelliSTAR. :sing:

We had issues with my brother's brakes. :rolleyes:

I told him that they were failing, and he said tht they weren't. :rolleyes:

But then they totally popped off a few days ago. :rolleyes:
LOL looks like you're trying to type out the lyrics to a song. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 03, 2008, 06:49:16 AM
Oh why am I hearing "My Dancing Heart"? :sing: :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 06, 2008, 09:01:22 PM
DirecTV revealed a new logo during the Station ID. I'll post the video soon. :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 06, 2008, 09:43:53 PM
Here's that new logo: :twothumbs:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 06, 2008, 09:45:44 PM
Doesn't look new or different to me...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 06, 2008, 09:58:08 PM
Doesn't look new or different to me...
Here it is previously:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 06, 2008, 10:01:18 PM
Looks like they just shrunk a bit to me... :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on November 06, 2008, 10:06:28 PM
Looks like they just shrunk a bit to me... :thinking:
The new one looks shinier if you look closely.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on November 06, 2008, 10:50:32 PM
The one that was on there before was their old company logo. The one thats on there now is the new updated one thats been around for probably a year or two.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 07, 2008, 03:52:48 PM
The font size is different too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 07, 2008, 04:01:35 PM
The one that was on there before was their old company logo. The one thats on there now is the new updated one thats been around for probably a year or two.

That's probably why it didn't seem new. It's not.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 08, 2008, 07:47:36 PM
Would it be possible for a radio station to play unavailable music? If you had a BMI license you can license whatever song you want and air at the local radio station, right?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 08, 2008, 08:20:11 PM
Would it be possible for a radio station to play unavailable music? If you had a BMI license you can license whatever song you want and air at the local radio station, right?
Doubt it. Radio stations play available music so listeners can look for it and buy it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on November 08, 2008, 10:00:13 PM
I imagine that would piss off a lot of people.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on November 09, 2008, 06:35:33 AM
I saw this today when I was watching "House".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on November 09, 2008, 09:46:40 AM
House, as in the show with the egotistical ass?  The doctors?  Dr. Lisa Cuddy?

I might just go back and find that....
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on November 09, 2008, 10:24:03 AM
House, as in the show with the egotistical ass?  The doctors?  Dr. Lisa Cuddy?

I might just go back and find that....
That's the one.

It sucks now though. I haven't watched it past the 3rd season, when they fucked up the team of doctors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 09, 2008, 10:28:32 AM
they fucked up the team of doctors.
That's the season that I noticed House was going downhill. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 14, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
For those who have been looking for this Nov 2006 song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcPnccwISOw&feature=email), it's "Tee Time" by Kenny Carr (thanks to tiger12688).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 14, 2008, 08:24:39 PM
For those who have been looking for this Nov 2006 song ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcPnccwISOw&feature=email[/url]), it's "Tee Time" by Kenny Carr (thanks to tiger12688).

Wow thanks! That's a good song, Kenny Carr's music last aired in October 2005.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 15, 2008, 12:29:19 PM
Also, this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIH-ayQP_gU), also from Nov 2006 is Turn the Page by Kenny Carr.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on November 15, 2008, 02:20:19 PM
Does anyone know if 4000's today show the haze icon on the regional conditions segment?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 15, 2008, 02:37:54 PM
Does anyone know if 4000's today show the haze icon on the regional conditions segment?
Yeah they do. AFAIK, they haven't removed the haze icons on the 4000
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 22, 2008, 01:06:52 PM
OMG!!!!!!

Chris Geith just signed a record deal with UMG the Universal Music Group. I saw this in his myspace status message :

"Chris Geith signs with Universal Music Group!"

Now all of our Lf clips with his music will be flagged and removed from Youtube. :wall:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 22, 2008, 01:12:10 PM
OMG!!!!!!

Chris Geith just signed a record deal with UMG the Universal Music Group. I saw this in his myspace status message :

"Chris Geith signs with Universal Music Group!"

Now all of our Lf clips with his music will be flagged and removed from Youtube. :wall:
What a bunch of :censored:.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 22, 2008, 01:13:59 PM
Not so fast guys. What makes you think your stuff will be removed?

And may I remind you that signing with a major label will make his music easier to get.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 22, 2008, 01:31:15 PM
It is good news, because many of us want his unavailable songs.

The bad part is that UMG forces YT to remove videos with their music because they're too hungry for money. Several members encountered this. Joyce Cooling, Norman Brown, Rippingtons, Joe Sample, David Benoit, Mannheim Stroller, Vince Guaraldi, Bernie Williams, Charlie Parker, etc. There was a huge topic in TWCC about this issue.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 22, 2008, 01:49:59 PM
It is good news, because many of us want his unavailable songs.

The bad part is that UMG forces YT to remove videos with their music because they're too hungry for money. Several members encountered this. Joyce Cooling, Norman Brown, Rippingtons, Joe Sample, David Benoit, Mannheim Stroller, Vince Guaraldi, Bernie Williams, Charlie Parker, etc. There was a huge topic in TWCC about this issue.

The topic, then, was all wrong. Joyce Cooling is on the Narada label, Norman Brown has been on Warner and Motown labels (and only Motown is with Universal), Charlie Parker is on Rhino, Benoit is on GRP, Joe sample is on Warner, Vince Guaraldi is on Fantasy, and Bernie Williams and Rippingtons are both GRP. Only one album from one artist is on a Universal label.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 22, 2008, 01:56:33 PM
Those record labels all belong to UMG though. My video with Dont Mind if Do by JOyce Cooling was removed. That song was on a Verve label which is part of UMG.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 22, 2008, 01:58:02 PM
Check this out:

http://new.umusic.com/labels.aspx?Group=1 (http://new.umusic.com/labels.aspx?Group=1)

Those labels are NOT repeat NOT with Universal.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 22, 2008, 02:02:00 PM
Then, how did mine and several others get their clips get removed? UMG claimed the copyright on all of those videos with music from those respective artists based on the YT notices.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 22, 2008, 02:04:01 PM
I don't know, but you can clearly see that those are not UMG groups.  ;)

I'm guessing that no one at TWCC did any research to figure this out?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 22, 2008, 02:07:21 PM
Those labels are affiliated with UMG. Motown and Verve are smaller record labels belonging to UMG. UMG is the parent company and owns these labels.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 22, 2008, 02:22:19 PM
So your still going to try to argue with me, after looking at UMG's groups and seeing that those are NOT there?  :pinch:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 22, 2008, 02:35:11 PM
Verve is its own entity, just like UMG. Its called Verve Music Group. Under it are the Verve and GRP labels. I told you it was not part of UMG.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on November 22, 2008, 03:49:22 PM
The topic, then, was all wrong. Joyce Cooling is on the Narada label, Norman Brown has been on Warner and Motown labels (and only Motown is with Universal), Charlie Parker is on Rhino, Benoit is on GRP, Joe Sample is on Warner, Vince Guaraldi is on Fantasy, and Bernie Williams and Rippingtons are both GRP. Only one album from one artist is on a Universal label.
Interesting, because I got a copyright notice on YT for a Joe Sample song posted at it was from UMG, not Warner. I wonder why UMG claimed it instead of Warner. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 22, 2008, 04:08:11 PM
The topic, then, was all wrong. Joyce Cooling is on the Narada label, Norman Brown has been on Warner and Motown labels (and only Motown is with Universal), Charlie Parker is on Rhino, Benoit is on GRP, Joe Sample is on Warner, Vince Guaraldi is on Fantasy, and Bernie Williams and Rippingtons are both GRP. Only one album from one artist is on a Universal label.
Interesting, because I got a copyright notice on YT for a Joe Sample song posted at it was from UMG, not Warner. I wonder why UMG claimed it instead of Warner. :huh:


I don't know. That's very puzzling indeed.  :thinking:

I'll say it again. You all can argue with me all you want, but the information is right there in front of your faces. I didn't make this up. I'm just passing along my findings on THEIR website.

All you have to do is go to Amazon and look up an album. Each listing tells you what label its on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 25, 2008, 05:18:50 PM
Looks like another TWC artist is dead. It's Johnny Young, whose song "Hot Shot" is airing on this month's overnight. It's kinda funny because that song was recently added to the BMI repertoire. :huh:
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/apr/21/news/chi-hed-young-21-apr21
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 02, 2008, 10:09:18 PM
Did the orange text on the black LDL (for severe wx watches) always exist since the IntelliStar's debut? Because I don't recall ever seeing this on mine until mid 2005.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 02, 2008, 10:10:15 PM
No, it did not exist until the 2005 relaunch. Or some point close to it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 02, 2008, 10:12:41 PM
This clip from April 2005 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo#noexternalembed)) has the orange text on it, so it has to be from then. I know I've been under severe weather watches in Summer 2004 and I can't recall seeing this. Maybe it was the Sept 2004 update? The first time I saw this on my Star was Summer 2005.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 02, 2008, 11:59:18 PM
This clip from April 2005 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo#noexternalembed[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo#noexternalembed[/url])) has the orange text on it, so it has to be from then. I know I've been under severe weather watches in Summer 2004 and I can't recall seeing this. Maybe it was the Sept 2004 update? The first time I saw this on my Star was Summer 2005.


I don't think it was the September 2004 update. I'm 95% sure that the orange text was not around anytime before 2005.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 04, 2008, 10:16:21 PM
This clip from April 2005 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo#noexternalembed[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo#noexternalembed[/url])) has the orange text on it, so it has to be from then. I know I've been under severe weather watches in Summer 2004 and I can't recall seeing this. Maybe it was the Sept 2004 update? The first time I saw this on my Star was Summer 2005.


I thought I remember seeing that orange text during severe weather on my IS in 2004, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 04, 2008, 10:26:59 PM
This clip from April 2005 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo#noexternalembed[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fy9TY2u3Oo#noexternalembed[/url])) has the orange text on it, so it has to be from then. I know I've been under severe weather watches in Summer 2004 and I can't recall seeing this. Maybe it was the Sept 2004 update? The first time I saw this on my Star was Summer 2005.


I thought I remember seeing that orange text during severe weather on my IS in 2004, but I could be wrong.


You are. It hasn't been around that long.  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 06, 2008, 12:22:23 PM
Does anyone have a video of the current station ID screen without any logos that could be used in my emulations?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 06, 2008, 12:27:58 PM
Does anyone have a video of the current station ID screen without any logos that could be used in my emulations?
If I can get to it, I'll crop the HD feed on my reciever and record it. :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 06, 2008, 12:35:00 PM
Does anyone have a video of the current station ID screen without any logos that could be used in my emulations?
If I can get to it, I'll crop the HD feed on my reciever and record it. :biggrin:
That'd be great! Thanks Chris! :worship:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 06, 2008, 04:40:10 PM
Does anyone have a video of the current station ID screen without any logos that could be used in my emulations?
If I can get to it, I'll crop the HD feed on my reciever and record it. :biggrin:
That'd be great! Thanks Chris! :worship:
Here you go, Derek. B)

And other members may use this, too. :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Robert on December 06, 2008, 06:06:03 PM
Thanks Chris! B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 06, 2008, 06:51:32 PM
Does anyone have a video of the current station ID screen without any logos that could be used in my emulations?
If I can get to it, I'll crop the HD feed on my reciever and record it. :biggrin:
That'd be great! Thanks Chris! :worship:
Here you go, Derek. B)

And other members may use this, too. :biggrin:

Its not yours to dictate who can use it.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 06, 2008, 09:45:11 PM
Out of curiousity, has anyone tried messaging Timothy Bright/Dover for "December Snow" on myspace? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 06, 2008, 09:57:38 PM
I hope so. If not, I hope someone will. I'd really like to have that song!  :yes:

BTW, shouldn't this be in the classic section of the forum? :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 06, 2008, 09:58:56 PM
I hope so. If not, I hope someone will. I'd really like to have that song!  :yes:

BTW, shouldn't this be in the classic section of the forum? :thinking:
Well, I just messaged him. :happy: I'll let y'all know what happens!

Oh, you're right, it should be. My bad.. :pinch:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 06, 2008, 09:59:43 PM
I hope so. If not, I hope someone will. I'd really like to have that song!  :yes:

BTW, shouldn't this be in the classic section of the forum? :thinking:
Well, I just messaged him. :happy: I'll let y'all know what happens!

Oh, you're right, it should be. My bad.. :pinch:

Can't wait! I hope he replies in a somewhat timely fashion.  :D

No worries. No harm done.  B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 12, 2008, 11:01:20 AM
So, I just got back from the thrift sotre, and while I was there I picked up Bernie Williams' "The Journey Within" CD for just $1.40!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 12, 2008, 11:06:00 AM
Bernie is going to try and play for Puerto Rico in the World Baseball Classic this spring.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 13, 2008, 01:33:54 PM
When will the christmas playlist  start? This following week?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 13, 2008, 01:36:53 PM
When will the christmas playlist  start? This following week?
More than likely the 17th like last year. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 13, 2008, 01:49:48 PM
They always start on the 17th?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 13, 2008, 01:53:04 PM
They always start on the 17th?
Well, when I tuned in last year, the earliest I heard the Xmas music was on the 17th. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 13, 2008, 01:53:33 PM
Yes, since 1999 the holiday playlist has always started a week before Christmas.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 13, 2008, 01:56:39 PM
Sweet it will start on Wed :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on December 18, 2008, 06:56:17 PM
Intellistar kicks in at 6:55pm (the :48 flavor)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 18, 2008, 06:57:13 PM
Did anyone see the LOT8's sponsor? :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 18, 2008, 11:39:36 PM
My IS is playing during commercials, it cued at 11:36pm EST while Paul Goodloe was finishing his segment in the West.

(It's playing at it's normal time at 11:38pm now.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC015 on December 19, 2008, 02:25:34 PM
My WeatherSTAR 4000 was in a continuous loop with no music for about 10 minutes. It showed travel forecast and other screens not normally seen. Here is a clip of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVZX3ecBNkU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVZX3ecBNkU)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 19, 2008, 02:29:50 PM
Oh.  My.  God.

(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3707/travel4000gu9.png)

...and there's a text-based Almanac in there, too!!!!!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 19, 2008, 03:29:32 PM
My WeatherSTAR 4000 was in a continuous loop with no music for about 10 minutes. It showed travel forecast and other screens not normally seen. Here is a clip of it. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVZX3ecBNkU[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVZX3ecBNkU[/url])

OMG, that just made my day! I was having a very crappy one, but now I feel better.  :happy:

Looks like it's running the old (1990-November 1992) J flavor, but with the old Almanac in place of the 30 Day Outlook (probably because the Outlook data is unavailable).

And it's nice to see the TCF again.  :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 19, 2008, 03:41:40 PM
Wow, that IS a day maker! Thanks for posting that!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 19, 2008, 06:31:53 PM
Does anyone have a late-90's backup Travel Cities Forecast?  I think I have found a fairly big 4000 TCF change.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 19, 2008, 06:50:27 PM
Does anyone have a late-90's backup Travel Cities Forecast?  I think I have found a fairly big 4000 TCF change.

Dan's got two on his site (http://twcdan.com/localforecastsegments.html)...

http://twcdan.com/videos/2q98/mid%20may%201998%202.html (http://twcdan.com/videos/2q98/mid%20may%201998%202.html)
http://twcdan.com/videos/2q98/mid%20may%201998.html (http://twcdan.com/videos/2q98/mid%20may%201998.html).


Denver -> Denver Int'l
Detroit -> Detroit Metro
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 19, 2008, 06:52:26 PM
Whoa, how long has the TCF said 'Denver Int'l' and 'Detroit Metro'??! :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 19, 2008, 06:52:57 PM
What have you found, Matt?  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 19, 2008, 06:54:05 PM
What have you found, Matt?  :thinking:
There are at least two cities that have slightly changed (see my post above).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 19, 2008, 06:55:05 PM
Hmmm...that's interesting. But doesn't seem like the "fairly big" change Matt mentioned... :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 19, 2008, 06:56:18 PM
What Billy and Derek said.

Considering the 4000 hasn't had a single change since the image change...yeah, I'd call it a fairly big change.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 19, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
I agree that its big in terms of how long its been since the last update. But the actual change itself...not big.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on December 19, 2008, 09:24:29 PM
Actually, there were some changes relating to weather bulletin displays and formatting in 2002 and headend ID changes in 2005.

I've added information on this to Wikipedia, as this is rather major.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 19, 2008, 10:23:00 PM
I can't understand why the addition of two words to the TCF is major. The addition of a city to the TCF-major. The removal of a city from the TCF-major. A change to the look of the TCf-definitely major. But a small tweak to the names of a couple of cities? Not major.  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC015 on December 19, 2008, 10:43:55 PM
During the loop of the WeatherSTAR 4000, the channel also had excess static. I don't know if this is of importance but I just wanted to inform all of you.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 20, 2008, 10:58:27 AM
I can't understand why the addition of two words to the TCF is major. The addition of a city to the TCF-major. The removal of a city from the TCF-major. A change to the look of the TCf-definitely major. But a small tweak to the names of a couple of cities? Not major.  :no:
Well, considering someone updated a product that is never seen...

What's more surprising is that TCF data is still sent to those STARs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on December 20, 2008, 02:23:10 PM
I can't understand why the addition of two words to the TCF is major. The addition of a city to the TCF-major. The removal of a city from the TCF-major. A change to the look of the TCf-definitely major. But a small tweak to the names of a couple of cities? Not major.  :no:
Well, considering someone updated a product that is never seen...

What's more surprising is that TCF data is still sent to those STARs.

I still don't think that makes it any bigger.  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 27, 2008, 05:18:24 PM
Is there anyone who can see if this IntelliStar has weird flavors? :unsure:
Thanks to shaneomac1986 for capturing. B)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LfT7M1cfaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LfT7M1cfaw)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on December 27, 2008, 08:30:13 PM
Was anyone just watching at 8:28 PM EST?

I really liked the song, wouldn't mind an ID!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 27, 2008, 09:01:42 PM
Was anyone just watching at 8:28 PM EST?

I really liked the song, wouldn't mind an ID!
Not sure but you can look at my primetime clips for an ID.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 27, 2008, 09:07:47 PM
Looks like the control isn't cuing the STARs at all...no Locals and no LDLs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on December 27, 2008, 09:09:27 PM
same here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on December 27, 2008, 09:16:26 PM
I've seen this for over an hour now...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on December 27, 2008, 09:17:10 PM
Vic, do you have a link?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 27, 2008, 09:32:50 PM
Vic, do you have a link?
I'm too lazy to post all 10 links. :P What instruments are in it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on December 27, 2008, 09:41:28 PM
Vic, do you have a link?
I'm too lazy to post all 10 links. :P What instruments are in it?
Oh nevermind, I thought you had a playlist on YouTube..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 27, 2008, 09:43:03 PM
Vic, do you have a link?
I'm too lazy to post all 10 links. :P What instruments are in it?
Oh nevermind, I thought you had a playlist on YouTube..
I do, I have all 10 primetime songs in the list recorded and uploaded

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 27, 2008, 10:40:36 PM
Ky, did the song air at :08 past? If so, its "Fireworks" by Moby.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 28, 2008, 10:16:10 PM
Is there anyone who can see if this IntelliStar has weird flavors? :unsure:
Thanks to shaneomac1986 for capturing. B)

(video) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LfT7M1cfaw[/url])
Wow, 68 mph on the traffic flow? That's high, my traffic routes never report any higher than 55 mph, even on the rural parts of I-295.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on December 29, 2008, 01:24:05 PM
Just so you know, I found the song Vic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLtpsqjEGOw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLtpsqjEGOw)

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 29, 2008, 01:34:49 PM
Pat Metheny's "Follow Me" , nice choice haha.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 30, 2008, 11:40:17 PM
New Boney James CD coming out in Feb 09:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7804180 (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7804180)

Sounds good!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 31, 2008, 06:34:22 PM
I noticed the strangest thing today. I was watching my intellistar this morning, and the radar was shifted a little more to the southwest with some different cities, and the cities on the 8-city observation list were also different. But then during the next LF, it reverted back to the normal configuration. I wonder what happened... :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: texasstooge on December 31, 2008, 06:42:17 PM
I noticed the strangest thing today. I was watching my intellistar this morning, and the radar was shifted a little more to the southwest with some different cities, and the cities on the 8-city observation list were also different. But then during the next LF, it reverted back to the normal configuration. I wonder what happened... :unsure:
Your cable company might've switched to a back-up IntelliStar until your normal one is fixed. Did you get the Local WX ID's?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 31, 2008, 06:45:52 PM
I noticed the strangest thing today. I was watching my intellistar this morning, and the radar was shifted a little more to the southwest with some different cities, and the cities on the 8-city observation list were also different. But then during the next LF, it reverted back to the normal configuration. I wonder what happened... :unsure:
Your cable company might've switched to a back-up IntelliStar until your normal one is fixed. Did you get the Local WX ID's?
It was really early in the morning, and I don't really pay attention to the IDs. But IIRC, the CC city was the same (Santa Cruz), just the 8 city list and the radar were different. But I do recall seeing a slightly different intellistar similar to this one while at a nearby hotel less than a mile away, so maybe you're right. This is the first time I've ever seen this happen. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: texasstooge on December 31, 2008, 06:50:39 PM
I noticed the strangest thing today. I was watching my intellistar this morning, and the radar was shifted a little more to the southwest with some different cities, and the cities on the 8-city observation list were also different. But then during the next LF, it reverted back to the normal configuration. I wonder what happened... :unsure:
Your cable company might've switched to a back-up IntelliStar until your normal one is fixed. Did you get the Local WX ID's?
It was really early in the morning, and I don't really pay attention to the IDs. But IIRC, the CC city was the same (Santa Cruz), just the 8 city list and the radar were different. But I do recall seeing a slightly different intellistar similar to this one while at a nearby hotel less than a mile away, so maybe you're right. This is the first time I've ever seen this happen. :blink:
I've had a similar situation in late 2005 when I saw the forecast for Flower Mound-Lewisville (#22110). Luckily, it only lasted a week as my area's former IntelliStar (#22107) was being repaired.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on December 31, 2008, 06:55:03 PM
Wow, mine didn't last that long. It lasted only 1 LF. I wonder if anyone here has been lucky enough to be switched to a neighboring XL, 4000, or jr while their intellistar was repaired. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: texasstooge on December 31, 2008, 07:00:06 PM
Wow, mine didn't last that long. It lasted only 1 LF. I wonder if anyone here has been lucky enough to be switched to a neighboring XL, 4000, or jr while their intellistar was repaired. :thinking:
Unless they don't have TrafficPulse, I highly doubt it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2009, 12:46:17 PM
I don't understand why my city doesn't have Traffic Pulse on the IS. We're part of the Philly area, and every other city in South Jersey has Traffic Pulse from Philly. I mean, I don't like the extra narration on Intellistars with traffic pulse but it could be quite useful here since everyone commutes to/back from Philadelphia. Also some towns just 10 miles north of us, have Traffic Pulse on their Intellistar but it is based out of New York. :huh:  Ocean County NJ is part of the NY metro area though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 01, 2009, 12:50:24 PM
Yeah, I never understood why you don't get traffic. Belmar's IntelliStar gets traffic from NYC, and the distance from Belmar to NYC is nearly the same if not farther than the distance from Atlantic City to Philly. Even the IntelliStar/Weatherscan in northern Delaware don't seem to get traffic, either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2009, 12:56:43 PM
Barnegat, NJ gets traffic pulse from New York. Although it's a heck lot closer to Philly.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 01, 2009, 04:12:20 PM
Wow, mine didn't last that long. It lasted only 1 LF. I wonder if anyone here has been lucky enough to be switched to a neighboring XL, 4000, or jr while their intellistar was repaired. :thinking:
Yeah, it's happened before. Back in early 2006, someone in the Boston area temporarily had a neighboring XL for a few hours.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 01, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
I hope the January playlist starts tomorrow. Time to hear some new songs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on January 01, 2009, 05:31:03 PM
I never hear or heard any trammell songs on the LF here at Toledo, Ohio.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on January 01, 2009, 06:25:44 PM
STAR rolled at 6:25.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on January 01, 2009, 07:25:18 PM
well, an interesting night at TWC I suppose
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 02, 2009, 12:29:19 PM
Strange that the January playlist hasn't started yet. Lately they've been so good at starting them on the first day of the month. I guess we'll have to wait until Monday at this point.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 02, 2009, 12:40:51 PM
Strange that the January playlist hasn't started yet. Lately they've been so good at starting them on the first day of the month. I guess we'll have to wait until Monday at this point.
I've noticed a pattern though. The Jan playlists of the past years always start on a Sunday and never on the 1st..I remembered:

2006- Jan playlist started on Sunday the 8th
2007- Jan playlist started on Sunday the 7th
2008- Jan playlist started on Sunday the 6th
2009- most likely on Sunday the 4th based on the previous years. I hope it doesn't start on Monday...I have school.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 02, 2009, 01:04:07 PM
I think the reason why they let December playlist stay on the air until a few days after New Years is because it's only heard for about 2-3 weeks in December (because of the holiday playlist).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on January 02, 2009, 01:12:53 PM
Has anyone seen Freezing Drizzle on their 7 day outlook before?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on January 04, 2009, 05:27:36 AM
Strange that the January playlist hasn't started yet. Lately they've been so good at starting them on the first day of the month. I guess we'll have to wait until Monday at this point.
I've noticed a pattern though. The Jan playlists of the past years always start on a Sunday and never on the 1st..I remembered:

2006- Jan playlist started on Sunday the 8th
2007- Jan playlist started on Sunday the 7th
2008- Jan playlist started on Sunday the 6th
2009- most likely on Sunday the 4th based on the previous years. I hope it doesn't start on Monday...I have school.
Today's 01/04. However, the Jan 09 playlist hasn't started, though.  <_< I'm still hearing the Dec 08 playlist. I really want that playlist to end Already. I want to hear to some new songs already. (Today's Sunday, BTW.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 04, 2009, 08:07:47 AM
Has anyone seen Freezing Drizzle on their 7 day outlook before?  :unsure:

I have.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 04, 2009, 12:14:00 PM
Strange that the January playlist hasn't started yet. Lately they've been so good at starting them on the first day of the month. I guess we'll have to wait until Monday at this point.
I've noticed a pattern though. The Jan playlists of the past years always start on a Sunday and never on the 1st..I remembered:

2006- Jan playlist started on Sunday the 8th
2007- Jan playlist started on Sunday the 7th
2008- Jan playlist started on Sunday the 6th
2009- most likely on Sunday the 4th based on the previous years. I hope it doesn't start on Monday...I have school.
Today's 01/04. However, the Jan 09 playlist hasn't started, though.  <_< I'm still hearing the Dec 08 playlist. I really want that playlist to end Already. I want to hear to some new songs already. (Today's Sunday, BTW.)
I know. I would've expected the list to start today. <_< It also doesn't surprise me if TWC went back to bi-monthly or quarterly playlists given TWC's state and the economy.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on January 04, 2009, 06:59:31 PM
Blank I.D screen at 6:57PM EST
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on January 04, 2009, 07:44:41 PM
alright, who is in charge of cuing the LF, because whoever it is sucks at their job...end of story.

seriously within a control room full of people, it takes over an hour to fix an overlapping LF?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on January 04, 2009, 11:49:33 PM
Istar cues at 11:46pm et then cuts to commercial for a min then cuts to extended forecast and traffic then resets to the k flavor at 11:48pm et
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on January 05, 2009, 01:42:05 PM
looks like we have to wait even longer for the January playlist to start. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 05, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Alright if the playlist doesn't start anytime this week, someone's gotta email Brian...If it doesn't start then either there's no Jan playlist or TWC might be reinstating bimonthly/quartly playlists
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on January 05, 2009, 05:48:09 PM
Last night, I tune to TWC and see The Week Ahead and hear commercial audio. Then the LF starts over again.

It was a mess...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on January 06, 2009, 09:10:58 PM
At 8:18pm Et, Nyc reported rain/sleet. i got video of this!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on January 10, 2009, 11:28:19 PM
Yeah...rain and sleet is one of the rarer (but still existing) conditions. It's in the XL icons and QuickCast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 11, 2009, 12:02:34 AM
Just saw an odd observation on my IntelliStar's CC screen: Light Freezing Rain and Fog.

 :blink:

It was using the Freezing Rain icon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 11, 2009, 12:32:39 AM
Earlier today I saw "Light Snow and Sleet" being reported. It used the light snow icon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 11, 2009, 12:43:48 AM
I've seen freezing drizzle. That's an odd condition.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 11, 2009, 12:35:59 PM
Just saw an odd observation on my IntelliStar's CC screen: Light Freezing Rain and Fog.

 :blink:

It was using the Freezing Rain icon.

I saw that yesterday, as well as Snow & Fog too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on January 12, 2009, 04:56:21 PM
Alright gumshoes, need some help.  My local weather channel added something like 20 songs to their rotation, and the song attached sounds awfully familiar...I think it was used on the Locals very recently.  I didn't get the recording quick enough, so this is the back end of the song...maybe someone can ID it just from this.

Warning...turn your volume down a little when listening.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on January 12, 2009, 07:12:09 PM
I could be wrong, but I REALLY think that's Dave Koz.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 12, 2009, 08:46:31 PM
That's "Groovity" by CC Gilmore, aka "Groove For Al" by Incognito. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on January 13, 2009, 08:54:23 AM
Has it been used on the Locals?  I've been looking and can't find it...but I could swear it was.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on January 13, 2009, 10:16:31 AM
Has it been used on the Locals?  I've been looking and can't find it...but I could swear it was.
Yep. April 2008.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on January 13, 2009, 10:18:37 AM
Cool gang, thanks!  I know many of the pieces are stock (they sound super generic)...I'm just waiting for a confirmed Network Music piece to show up.   :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 13, 2009, 06:26:40 PM
Has it been used on the Locals?  I've been looking and can't find it...but I could swear it was.

Yep, it was. It was used in April 2008. :yes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-5RW3TZX_I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-5RW3TZX_I)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 16, 2009, 07:10:19 PM
lol there's a song called "Local on the 8s" by Greg Witt from the album Smooth Jazz Rock. The song It wa You was used in October's but not that one. Can't say I heard a jazz song with a lot8s beat.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 23, 2009, 01:08:19 PM
I found this on a google search....profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=65340580

idk if this artist has music that aired on the weather channel but would they be responsible for composing any april or feb 2007 songs?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 23, 2009, 11:19:06 PM
Would anyone still like my video from March 2008 of Trade Winds by Eddie Reasoner? There is some skipping though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on January 24, 2009, 10:06:55 AM
Would anyone still like my video from March 2008 of Trade Winds by Eddie Reasoner? There is some skipping though.

If you want to show it i will watch it  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 27, 2009, 06:34:08 PM
Does anyone know the exact date the narration for the "Incidents & construction impacting our area" page was discontinued, so I can edit the wikipedia article?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on January 28, 2009, 09:07:28 PM
my star is frozen on the LF Screen, and has been since 7:40.

its been awhile since i've seen the SA Star malfunction.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on January 28, 2009, 09:08:47 PM
Does anyone know the exact date the narration for the "Incidents & construction impacting our area" page was discontinued, so I can edit the wikipedia article?

it never was discontinued. i get that narration til this very day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 28, 2009, 09:20:47 PM
Yeah, there are still a few that carry this for some reason. The Orlando Star has also had the narration for all three traffic screens since 2007. Here, it was discontiued sometime in early January 2006 IIRC.

Maybe the reason why these STARs still have the traffic incidents/traffic flow narration is because of the fact that the traffic overview map isn't available for those locations.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on January 28, 2009, 09:48:22 PM
Yeah, there are still a few that carry this for some reason. The Orlando Star has also had the narration for all three traffic screens since 2007. Here, it was discontiued sometime in early January 2006 IIRC.

Maybe the reason why these STARs still have the traffic incidents/traffic flow narration is because of the fact that the traffic overview map isn't available for those locations.

well i thought the overview maps were pulled for maintenance, have some ISTARs gotten them back?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 28, 2009, 09:58:58 PM
Maybe the reason why these STARs still have the traffic incidents/traffic flow narration is because of the fact that the traffic overview map isn't available for those locations.
That's exactly the reason. Locations with overview maps only get overview narration. Headends without the overview map get narration for the traffic flow and incident pages.



well i thought the overview maps were pulled for maintenance, have some ISTARs gotten them back?
They were pulled out of the majority of markets because the maps didn't have enough digital data, making them less accurate. They only remained in major markets - NYC, DC, LA, MSP, DFW, San Francisco/Oakland, Chicago, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Houston, Boston, Seattle, Tampa, Philadelphia, and a few others.

Some of the markets where the maps were removed include - San Antonio, Miami, Orlando, Raleigh/Durham, Charlotte, Nashville, Providence RI, Richmond VA, Hartford CT, Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Louisville, etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on January 28, 2009, 11:30:11 PM
Maybe the reason why these STARs still have the traffic incidents/traffic flow narration is because of the fact that the traffic overview map isn't available for those locations.
That's exactly the reason. Locations with overview maps only get overview narration. Headends without the overview map get narration for the traffic flow and incident pages.



well i thought the overview maps were pulled for maintenance, have some ISTARs gotten them back?
They were pulled out of the majority of markets because the maps didn't have enough digital data, making them less accurate. They only remained in major markets - NYC, DC, LA, MSP, DFW, San Francisco/Oakland, Chicago, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Houston, Boston, Seattle, Tampa, Philadelphia, and a few others.

Some of the markets where the maps were removed include - San Antonio, Miami, Orlando, Raleigh/Durham, Charlotte, Nashville, Providence RI, Richmond VA, Hartford CT, Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Louisville, etc.

so basically we're not gettin them back? well that sucks. i liked the overview maps.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 29, 2009, 07:58:09 AM
Maybe the reason why these STARs still have the traffic incidents/traffic flow narration is because of the fact that the traffic overview map isn't available for those locations.
That's exactly the reason. Locations with overview maps only get overview narration. Headends without the overview map get narration for the traffic flow and incident pages.



well i thought the overview maps were pulled for maintenance, have some ISTARs gotten them back?
They were pulled out of the majority of markets because the maps didn't have enough digital data, making them less accurate. They only remained in major markets - NYC, DC, LA, MSP, DFW, San Francisco/Oakland, Chicago, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Houston, Boston, Seattle, Tampa, Philadelphia, and a few others.

Some of the markets where the maps were removed include - San Antonio, Miami, Orlando, Raleigh/Durham, Charlotte, Nashville, Providence RI, Richmond VA, Hartford CT, Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Louisville, etc.

so basically we're not gettin them back? well that sucks. i liked the overview maps.

Once Traffic Pulse adds more digital routes to your market, then you'll get it back. But I don't know when that will be. However, they're constantly expanding. They add roads here all the time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on January 29, 2009, 08:58:46 AM
Phoenix needs to lose its map...a major section of freeway is missing from our maps because ADOT built it in the last five years. And the one section of that ENTIRE freeway (practically) never has data.

Data is sufficient for every other highway, though, but it's a gaping hole.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on January 29, 2009, 09:18:02 AM
I have the Providence Traffic overview map and Route 495,and RI route 4 are unavailable
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 08, 2009, 06:24:09 PM
Today I saw a TWC ad scrolling on my IntelliStar. :blink: That's the first non-local ad crawl I've seen on it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on February 08, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
What for?  Mine has rolled recently a super short, super generic "Watch TWC in HD" scroll (and we don't even get TWC|HD!).

Also, one for getting your flu shot.  If you didn't get one yet (and you wanted one), you fail.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 08, 2009, 06:32:06 PM
It said "Get picture perfect weather with The Weather Channel HD."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on February 08, 2009, 06:52:35 PM
Today I saw a TWC ad scrolling on my IntelliStar. :blink: That's the first non-local ad crawl I've seen on it.
Nothing new. I remember seeing on before Epic Conditions premiered. Also, for TWC-HD, and now, just today, for the Storm Stories comeback.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 08, 2009, 07:02:52 PM
I know it isn't new, but it's the first I've seen it on my Intelistar. There must be fewer local crawls in the system than there usually is, resulting in the TWC ads to show.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 08, 2009, 07:58:07 PM
I saw one of those TWC HD crawls on my IS the other day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 08, 2009, 08:39:09 PM
So did I. Heh. I was like "wtf" when I saw it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 09, 2009, 04:30:29 PM
Maybe TWC programmed it on all STARs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 09, 2009, 09:10:40 PM
When did they update the L Bar during special programming? It's pretty neat.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 09, 2009, 09:17:25 PM
When did they update the L Bar during special programming? It's pretty neat.
December 12, 2008.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on February 11, 2009, 08:58:16 AM
We're getting that TWC HD crawl. That exact same one has popped up on Weatherscan, so I'm thinking that the IS web crawl system inserts it automatically or if TWC is putting out an override.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 11, 2009, 10:15:26 PM
Does anyone know what the difference is (in meaning) of these two icons?
(http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/AMClouds.png)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 11, 2009, 10:17:16 PM
Does anyone know what the difference is (in meaning) of these two icons?
([url]http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/AMClouds.png[/url])
They're both AM clouds, PM sun, but the one on the left was used more on the maps on TWC for Partly Cloudy, iirc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 11, 2009, 11:38:55 PM
That's what I thought. Thanks for the help! :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 16, 2009, 07:59:50 AM
There is some weird amazonic like music playing on my LF. :blink: :wacko:

EDIT: The music stopped when the 7 day segment came up.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 16, 2009, 04:37:15 PM
For those of you looking for Norman Fisks Back Door Jam, Against the Tide, Mood Swing (all from last month) and his past TWC songs, you can download them for free here, and I checked its legal. :D I actually found this from just googling "Norman Fisk Back Door Jam" so if you were looking for his recent music, you might've came across the link.
http://www.jamesrury.com/music.html (http://www.jamesrury.com/music.html)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 16, 2009, 05:39:53 PM
Does anyone know what the difference is (in meaning) of these two icons?
([url]http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/AMClouds.png[/url])
They're both AM clouds, PM sun, but the one on the left was used more on the maps on TWC for Partly Cloudy, iirc.
I can't see any pictures, but I'm assuming he's referring to the two AM clouds icons, the one with the cloud on the upper left and one with the cloud on lower left part of the sun. The first one (upper left) was used on the XL, and the early days of the Weatherscan IntelliStar. The second one debuted sometime in late 2002 on the national broadcasts. As Jesse stated, it was also used as a Partly Cloudy icon on national broadcasts from 2002-2003, except without the AM indicator of course.

The newer AM clouds icon debuted on the local forecasts on the IntelliStar in 2004, and the Weatherscan IntelliStar started using it too several months later on the extended forecast (the older version was still used on the regional maps however, until the icons upgrade in late 2006). The domestic XL still uses the older AM clouds icon to this day.

There was also an even older version of the AM clouds icon on the national broadcasts that looked similar to the mostly cloudy icon. They stopped using that in 2001 or 2002.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on February 16, 2009, 10:51:11 PM
There is some weird amazonic like music playing on my LF. :blink: :wacko:

EDIT: The music stopped when the 7 day segment came up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXvPcsjVtcg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXvPcsjVtcg)
 :blink:

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 16, 2009, 11:15:36 PM
There is some weird amazonic like music playing on my LF. :blink: :wacko:

EDIT: The music stopped when the 7 day segment came up.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXvPcsjVtcg[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXvPcsjVtcg[/url])
 :blink:


That's exactly what I hear this morning Martin, I thought I was hearing things at first, thanks for uploading it.  :thumbsup: Thinking about it now it sounds like something coming out of an old horror movie. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 17, 2009, 11:26:09 AM
There is some weird amazonic like music playing on my LF. :blink: :wacko:

EDIT: The music stopped when the 7 day segment came up.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXvPcsjVtcg[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXvPcsjVtcg[/url])
 :blink:


Might be a march playlist or October Playlist preview  :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on February 18, 2009, 07:46:23 AM
I don't know what is going on, but something is wrong with my intellistar. The screen is black, with just the LDL running non-stop, except for two commercials that play twice an hour. After the second commercial is over, the screen goes back to black with the LDL, but the LDL just pops up without appearing effects. Is this just a  problem with my intellistar unit or is it happening anywhere else?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 18, 2009, 12:12:52 PM
Your Intellistar is not receiving the feed from TWC; the two ads you're seeing are the local ads that are inserted above the Intellistar by the cable company. I suggest calling them and explaining the problem.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 20, 2009, 07:00:50 PM
Black Intellistar Traffic map at 6:59pm et
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 21, 2009, 11:49:56 AM
I swear that one of the unknown April 2007 songs is on CD Baby....over the next few weeks I will sampling every song from every smooth jazz album in the site. Sounds dumb...but I believe in miracles
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on February 21, 2009, 12:11:43 PM
Your Intellistar is not receiving the feed from TWC; the two ads you're seeing are the local ads that are inserted above the Intellistar by the cable company. I suggest calling them and explaining the problem.
Yea I had this happen once except with an audio problem. Im surprised someone had not caught it. Well maybe not, the star unit in my area went 2 1/2 days without audio until I bothered to call someone.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 21, 2009, 07:24:24 PM
MAJOR DISCOVERY!!!!

I found "Good Move" by Robbin Scholl on iTunes as "Time to Move" by Baron Brown, Eric Marienthal, Mark Scholl, Power of Two and Wally Minko, type in itunes time to move two debut and you'll find it. The album "Two Debut" also contains other Robbin Scholl songs TWC previously used.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on February 21, 2009, 08:25:04 PM
MAJOR DISCOVERY!!!!

I found "Good Move" by Robbin Scholl on iTunes as "Time to Move" by Baron Brown, Eric Marienthal, Mark Scholl, Power of Two and Wally Minko, type in itunes time to move two debut and you'll find it. The album "Two Debut" also contains other Robbin Scholl songs TWC previously used.
Nice find! :clap:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 22, 2009, 01:07:27 PM
Found the link:
http://cdbaby.com/style/76/all (http://cdbaby.com/style/76/all)

I'm *HOPING" one of the jazz songs I have tested was used in April 2007. Because I just know that the latin song or one of the bluesy guitar songs from April 2007 is in the site.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 22, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
Found the link:
[url]http://cdbaby.com/style/76/all[/url] ([url]http://cdbaby.com/style/76/all[/url])

I'm *HOPING" one of the jazz songs I have tested was used in April 2007. Because I just know that the latin song or one of the bluesy guitar songs from April 2007 is in the site.

To make things a little easier, why not got to that page and hit Ctrl + F, and type in some keywords to search for, like "latin", "guitar", "electric guitar", etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 22, 2009, 01:42:18 PM
Found the link:
[url]http://cdbaby.com/style/76/all[/url] ([url]http://cdbaby.com/style/76/all[/url])

I'm *HOPING" one of the jazz songs I have tested was used in April 2007. Because I just know that the latin song or one of the bluesy guitar songs from April 2007 is in the site.

To make things a little easier, why not got to that page and hit Ctrl + F, and type in some keywords to search for, like "latin", "guitar", "electric guitar", etc.

I could try but the results might not be the same. Like in that page I posted, you can find all of the artists who music was on TWC- Darryl Alexander, mark Barrios, Eldredge Jackson, Johnny Menzano, Funkee Boy, etc..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 24, 2009, 07:51:34 PM
I just saw a Storm Stories ad crawl on my IntelliStar! :blink:

"The Storm is Back and Bigger Than Ever! Catch an All New Season of Storm Stories Tonight at 8pm on The Weather Channel."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on February 24, 2009, 08:23:20 PM
Crawl number 2 that has to be a national override.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on February 24, 2009, 10:14:01 PM
I just saw a Storm Stories ad crawl on my IntelliStar! :blink:

"The Storm is Back and Bigger Than Ever! Catch an All New Season of Storm Stories Tonight at 8pm on The Weather Channel."
Same here, I saw it earlier.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on February 24, 2009, 10:41:52 PM
Whats with an lf at 10:41? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 24, 2009, 10:42:28 PM
Whats with an lf at 10:41? :blink:
They ran the last segment to :38.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 24, 2009, 10:43:01 PM
Well that explains it.  :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on February 24, 2009, 10:43:19 PM
Whats with an lf at 10:41? :blink:
They ran the last segment to :38.
Oh thats odd. I changed channels for a bit and didn't notice that
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 25, 2009, 06:13:16 PM
New Patrick Yandall CD. I think it'll be used either next month or in April.
http://cdbaby.com/cd/yandall8 (http://cdbaby.com/cd/yandall8)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on February 25, 2009, 06:49:37 PM
New Patrick Yandall CD. I think it'll be used either next month or in April.
[url]http://cdbaby.com/cd/yandall8[/url] ([url]http://cdbaby.com/cd/yandall8[/url])
Sound cool! 8) My favorite songs in this CD are A New Day, Urban Flight, and If You Love Me, and Do You Feel.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on February 26, 2009, 03:24:09 AM
MAJOR DISCOVERY!!!!

I found "Good Move" by Robbin Scholl on iTunes as "Time to Move" by Baron Brown, Eric Marienthal, Mark Scholl, Power of Two and Wally Minko, type in itunes time to move two debut and you'll find it. The album "Two Debut" also contains other Robbin Scholl songs TWC previously used.


Those CD have been avail. since 2006. Mark Scholl has a site (Google it) I've had those CD's since 2006
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 26, 2009, 03:23:53 PM
I know, you posted a link to Mark Scholl and the Screaming Tigers once but as you know me, I'm interested in downloads. :D :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 26, 2009, 05:27:49 PM
It seems as though my Getaway forecast has updated to another city, it removed Great Smokey Mtns. and replaced it with Highland, NC. This is the second city config. change since the graphical IS change in October 2007.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on February 26, 2009, 07:10:05 PM
It seems as though my Getaway forecast has updated to another city, it removed Great Smokey Mtns. and replaced it with Highland, NC. This is the second city config. change since the graphical IS change in October 2007.

that should be happening often, it's about money now...my getaway forecast has been updated numerous times with new cities. some with urls underneath them others, not so much.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 28, 2009, 01:06:14 PM
I saw a new Leon Ayers Jr CD on itunes, "Smooth Jazz Vol 1" but I don't know if any of the songs in that album were used on TWC.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 28, 2009, 03:15:25 PM
ANOTHER find!!!!

"On the Horizon" by Howard Isaacson from August 2008 overnight is retitled as "Blue Skies" from his album Blue Skies.
http://cdbaby.com/cd/isaacson2 (http://cdbaby.com/cd/isaacson2)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 01, 2009, 01:50:17 PM
I got a HiRAD outage going on right now!  :thrilled:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 01, 2009, 01:51:54 PM
Yep, Hirad is out here too. I betcha hirad is thrown off because of those messed up radar frames. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 01, 2009, 01:55:03 PM
Yep, Hirad is out here too. I betcha hirad is thrown off because of those messed up radar frames. :yes:
Oh yeah, I'm getting that too! Nice to see a legitament report for my local forecast for once!  :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 01, 2009, 01:57:07 PM
Yep, I've got N. Phila Arpt. on my IntelliStar and Weatherscan. Takes me back to pre-2006. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on March 01, 2009, 02:31:21 PM
Instead of saying Downtown Toledo My IntelliSTAR just says Toledo.

Is something not working? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 01, 2009, 02:34:13 PM
Is something not working? :unsure:
HiRAD. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on March 01, 2009, 02:35:48 PM
Is something not working? :unsure:
HiRAD. ;)

Oh.

Some of the radar frames are messed up to.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 01, 2009, 02:39:49 PM
Some of the radar frames are messed up to.
That's likely why they shut down HiRAD, since the HiRAD conditions are based on the color codes on the radars and satellites.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 01, 2009, 02:48:30 PM
Does this HiRAD Outage explain to why the Satellite LF's LDL is showing "Unknown Precipitation"? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 01, 2009, 03:00:04 PM
I got this message from TWC on Twitter saying that HiRAD is out due to a communications issue.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 01, 2009, 03:02:47 PM
I got this message from TWC on Twitter saying that HiRAD is out due to a communications issue.
Ah, interesting! Good to know  :lol:

I should enjoy legitament, accurate, and actual observations!  :P (as opposed to guesses from HiRAD)  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on March 01, 2009, 03:38:42 PM
Here's what's happening to the DISH LF LDL because of this:

(http://g.imagehost.org/0069/0301091428.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 01, 2009, 04:10:42 PM
HiRAD is back at 4:10 PM ET!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 02, 2009, 10:08:30 AM
Is anyone's LDL not showing average high/low temperatures?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 02, 2009, 11:01:07 AM
What was the name of the song that played at 10:38am?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 02, 2009, 11:11:58 AM
Is anyone's LDL not showing average high/low temperatures?
Mine is showing them. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 02, 2009, 11:13:49 AM
Yeah, it's back here now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 02, 2009, 11:23:40 AM
What was the name of the song that played at 10:38am?
Give U My Heart by Pieces of a Dream.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 02, 2009, 11:42:37 AM
What was the name of the song that played at 10:38am?
Give U My Heart by Pieces of a Dream.

Thanks, that's a good song. :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 02, 2009, 04:02:05 PM
Does anyone know if HiRAD is capable of reporting Blowing Snow? There's been some of that here and I've seen some airport stations reporting blowing snow, but no locations on my IntelliStar are reporting it.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 02, 2009, 04:07:37 PM
Does anyone know if HiRAD is capable of reporting Blowing Snow? There's been some of that here and I've seen some airport stations reporting blowing snow, but no locations on my IntelliStar are reporting it.  :hmm:
That's a good question.  :thinking: Sorry, I don't know the answer either :dunno: , but it seems to me like HiRAD is incapable of reporting heavy snow and/or visibilities down below 0.3 miles as well. During recent snows here (and even a heavy sleet event in November) the visibility got down to zero but HiRAD said 0.3 miles.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 02, 2009, 04:08:37 PM
I've seen 0.1 mile reportings on HiRAD before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 03, 2009, 06:18:49 AM
Once again, my intellistar is not working properly  :dance:

Here is how it looked at 4:58 AM this morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBFyWIBr6w#hq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBFyWIBr6w#hq)

And again at 5:08 AM, but with the metro forecast map fixed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efxQ2xoFSJA#hq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efxQ2xoFSJA#hq)

Notice the terrible line-up and the fact that the regional forecast map goes straight to the week ahead.  :thinking:

Anybody else's doing this?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 03, 2009, 06:46:53 AM
Never mind, problem fixed as of 6:39 AM EST  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 03, 2009, 06:53:54 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but could that have been a beta test to a new flavor? :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 03, 2009, 07:49:00 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but could that have been a beta test to a new flavor? :thinking:
Perhaps it was, but why?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 04, 2009, 11:51:49 PM
Is anyone else noticing how frequently that "Tomorrow's Promise" by Chris Geith is being played on the local forecast these past several hours?  It seems to be really overplayed lately. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 05, 2009, 12:04:06 AM
Is anyone else noticing how frequently that "Tomorrow's Promise" by Chris Geith is being played on the local forecast these past several hours?  It seems to be really overplayed lately. :unsure:
I wish TWC would play every song equally.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 05, 2009, 12:11:59 AM
Is anyone else noticing how frequently that "Tomorrow's Promise" by Chris Geith is being played on the local forecast these past several hours?  It seems to be really overplayed lately. :unsure:
I wish TWC would play every song equally.  :thumbdown:
At least more random playing would be nice.  In just the last hour, I've heard it played at 11:48 PM, 12:08 AM, and again at 12:28 AM.  I like the song overall, but it's going to be milked dry at this rate. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 05, 2009, 12:35:39 PM
No kidding..."Rendezvous" by Eric Marienthal played 5 times within 2 hours. I need the Boney James song "I'm Gonna Love You Just A Little More Baby" and I haven't heard it on TWC 2 night in a row so far.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 05, 2009, 02:21:34 PM
Just as I feared, I was only hearing "Tomorrow's Promise" and "Rendezvous" alternating back and forth during the local forecasts.  So, I only heard two unique songs between 11 PM and 1 AM last night.  Something's messed up. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 05, 2009, 02:40:29 PM
Have you heard a song between 11:58am to 12:58am on a 2 min flavour that started with light drum beats then progressed to a light sax? (not talking about euge groove)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 05, 2009, 02:42:21 PM
Have you heard a song between 11:58am to 12:58am on a 2 min flavour that started with light drum beats then progressed to a light sax? (not talking about euge groove)
I haven't yet, but I can check later this afternoon if it reappears.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 05, 2009, 02:44:52 PM
Have you heard a song between 11:58am to 12:58am on a 2 min flavour that started with light drum beats then progressed to a light sax? (not talking about euge groove)
I haven't yet, but I can check later this afternoon if it reappears.
I meant 11:58 PM to 12:58 am lol.It only airs during the primetime hours. I really like that Boney James song....
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 05, 2009, 02:58:39 PM
Just as I feared, I was only hearing "Tomorrow's Promise" and "Rendezvous" alternating back and forth during the local forecasts.  So, I only heard two unique songs between 11 PM and 1 AM last night.  Something's messed up. :rolleyes:
Well, then I can tell you that I've definitely not heard it yet.  Look at my previous post that I quoted, and you'll see why.
(Wow, this is my 100th post already! :lol:)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 06, 2009, 07:40:28 PM
Seems that my IntelliStar is showing more and more mixed case ad crawls now. In the past it has always shown ads in all caps. Has anyone else noticed this on theirs?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 06, 2009, 07:50:01 PM
For anyone who's seen the fog/drizzle icon on the CC screen, what does the text below it say? Is it 'Drizzle/Fog'? Or 'Drizzle & Fog'? I'm curious..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 06, 2009, 07:57:47 PM
For anyone who's seen the fog/drizzle icon on the CC screen, what does the text below it say? Is it 'Drizzle/Fog'? Or 'Drizzle & Fog'? I'm curious..
I'm pretty sure it's "Drizzle and Fog." I know I remember seeing "Light Rain and Fog" on my IntelliStar awhile back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 06, 2009, 08:09:02 PM
Seems that my IntelliStar is showing more and more mixed case ad crawls now. In the past it has always shown ads in all caps. Has anyone else noticed this on theirs?
Same here... But lately, most are mixed case ad crawls now. About time they switched to mixed case instead of ALL CAPS....
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 07, 2009, 12:21:02 AM
The CAPS issue is up to the local headend. It's how they insert it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Rico on March 07, 2009, 01:26:28 PM
I thought when it was all caps, it was the default setting. When severe weather alerts come on, it is in all caps, is that how it's supposed to be as well?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 07, 2009, 01:50:40 PM
I thought when it was all caps, it was the default setting. When severe weather alerts come on, it is in all caps, is that how it's supposed to be as well?
For ad crawls, the crawl will appear however the cable company inserts the crawl. For severe weather alert crawls, they will always be in all caps, because that is how the alerts are issued by the NWS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2009, 03:06:04 PM
I hope the composer of those unknown April 2007 tunes makes new music so TWC would air them. I don't know, but that daytime sax song was stuck in my head since this morning. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 07, 2009, 09:33:13 PM
Does anyone know if the XL had a PM clouds icon?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 07, 2009, 09:38:08 PM
Does anyone know if the XL had a PM clouds icon?
No, I had always thought that there should be one since Sunday afternoons always seem to cloud up for no apparent reason. There is an "Am Clouds, PM Sun" icon, but no "PM Clouds" icon. Then again, try using one. It would be interesting to see  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 08, 2009, 01:44:28 PM
I see Jeanne has added some new CDs to her music page. :blink:
http://www.ricksofactomusic.com/music.html (http://www.ricksofactomusic.com/music.html)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 10, 2009, 05:57:05 AM
LDL bar playing during commercials at 5:56am ET
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 10, 2009, 07:50:24 AM
LDL bar playing during commercials at 5:56am ET
Yeah, that was happening to me too. The LDL did not disappear and re-cue after the 5:58 AM LF either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 10, 2009, 06:24:11 PM
LDL bar playing during commercials at 5:56am ET
Yeah, that was happening to me too. The LDL did not disappear and re-cue after the 5:58 AM LF either.
I saw that too, but nothing appeared when the DirecTV lf came on, you could see the ldl on the LF, after the local forecast exited.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on March 10, 2009, 07:09:34 PM
Does anyone know if the XL had a PM clouds icon?

There is an AM Fog PM Clouds...I made my own version of it. I've only seen it ONCE in an LF, from around Christmas 07 (the Hannibal-Quincy STAR).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 10, 2009, 08:12:02 PM
Does anyone know if the XL had a PM clouds icon?
I know national broadcasts and the satellite forecast in the late 90's/early 00's did, but I've never seen it on the XL. I can try to make a mockup for you if you want.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 11, 2009, 06:52:11 PM
Does anyone know if the XL had a PM clouds icon?
I know national broadcasts and the satellite forecast in the late 90's/early 00's did, but I've never seen it on the XL. I can try to make a mockup for you if you want.
Oh yes, please do. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on March 13, 2009, 09:24:38 PM
Found out the song from the Feb overnight it's “I Double Dare You” by Ed Taylor (Thanks to Brian Picard)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VuZ_T93-mA&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VuZ_T93-mA&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 15, 2009, 08:56:47 PM
I was able to get a quick glimpse of the Harrisburg IntelliStar while in Mechanicsburg yesterday. I couldn't get any clips but here's what I remember...

Carlisle, Dauphin, Mechanicsburg, Millersburg, and I think New Cumberland and Hershey were on the local obs screens. I know there were other cities that were at least 10-15 miles from Harrisburg so this IntelliStar must serve a big area. IIRC, the metro map covered from just east of Chambersburg to Lancaster and from north to south Millersburg to Gettysburg. The regional map was the same as mine, and the ID was 22605 (just three digits off of Billy's Hanover Star).

If I go there next time I'll make sure to bring my camera with an empty memory card...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 15, 2009, 09:20:43 PM
Thanks Mike. All the IntelliStars in the area seem to have been installed around the same time (possibly by the former Suscom). Lancaster's is 22601, Harrisburg's is 22605, and Hanover's is 22608. What was the current conditions site, forecast title, and almanac location?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 15, 2009, 09:42:19 PM
CC was Harrisburg, forecast was Harrisburg Area, and the almanac was Harrisburg Int'l. As for IntelliStar ID numbers the same goes for here in Philadelphia. All of the Comcast ones I've seen around here are 218xx, except for Norristown which starts with 25xxx I believe.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 15, 2009, 09:56:22 PM
As for IntelliStar ID numbers the same goes for here in Philadelphia.

That's pretty much how it is all over the country. When the installed the IntelliStars, they did it by cable provider, then by market. All the Comcast Pittsburgh ones start with 224xx.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 15, 2009, 10:23:01 PM
All the Comcasts in my area (Mount Holly, Camden) start with 218xx... At Dave's house, he has Mount Holly for his Current Conditions screen, and the ID is 21872... I have Camden, which is 21873.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 15, 2009, 10:24:43 PM
At Dave's house, he has Mount Holly for his Current Conditions screen, and the ID is 21872.
I get that same one here in Marlton. I think I live right near the border of 21872 and 21873's coverage areas. Cherry Hill, just a mile or two down NJ 70 from here, gets 21873. Berlin, also only 10-15 mins from here, gets 21896. I also think I live really close to the border of Camden's and Vineland's Weatherscan coverage areas.

South Jersey has at least 10-15 domestic IntelliStar units, but only three regional Weatherscan units that serve several headends and therefore huge areas (Camden, Vineland, Atlantic City).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2009, 06:25:47 PM
Does anyone know what flavor the XL marine forecast would show up on, and what screen it would replace?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 16, 2009, 06:32:52 PM
Does anyone know what flavor the XL marine forecast would show up on, and what screen it would replace?
hmmm Wikipedia doesn't seem to have it :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 16, 2009, 07:53:56 PM
Does anyone know what flavor the XL marine forecast would show up on, and what screen it would replace?
hmmm Wikipedia doesn't seem to have it :thinking:
I am not sure what flavor it shows up on, but I do know that it replaces the almanac which exists on non-coastal Intellistars like mine.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 16, 2009, 09:57:35 PM
Does anyone know what flavor the XL marine forecast would show up on, and what screen it would replace?
IIRC, it was on the M flavor after the Tides, replacing the daypart.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 16, 2009, 10:19:06 PM
Does anyone know what flavor the XL marine forecast would show up on, and what screen it would replace?
IIRC, it was on the M flavor after the Tides, replacing the daypart.
Oh, it replaces the daypart? I thought it only replaced the almanac that shows up on non-coastal Intellistars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2009, 10:28:03 PM
Does anyone know what flavor the XL marine forecast would show up on, and what screen it would replace?
IIRC, it was on the M flavor after the Tides, replacing the daypart.
Ah, that would make sense to come right after the tides. Do you know if the air quality screen did the same thing?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 16, 2009, 10:37:01 PM
Ah, that would make sense to come right after the tides. Do you know if the air quality screen did the same thing?
Not sure about that, never seen video of it or in person. I'd assume that would replace the daypart too since it's one of those rare and optional screens like the marine forecast is.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 16, 2009, 10:48:44 PM
Does anyone know what flavor the XL marine forecast would show up on, and what screen it would replace?
IIRC, it was on the M flavor after the Tides, replacing the daypart.

On the XL, the marine forecast replaced the normal almanac, not the daypart.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 16, 2009, 11:03:31 PM
It did? I thought I remember seeing the tides, then marine forecast on the Cape May area XL. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 17, 2009, 03:29:12 PM
Oh wait, I was just thinking tides for some reason. Yes, the marine forecast did replace the daypart. However, when the marine forecast didn't play, the daypart was shown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS26XX6bLzI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS26XX6bLzI#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Squizz on March 17, 2009, 03:48:45 PM
I have been noticing that with DirecTV on the 58's it has my "Local" forecast for my zipcode. I didin't give them my ZIP. How did they get it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 17, 2009, 03:53:01 PM
It is automatically set to your billing zip.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Squizz on March 17, 2009, 03:54:38 PM
It is automatically set to your billing zip.
Duh. :doh:
Okay. Case Closed!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 20, 2009, 12:16:24 AM
It's been a year since the three-day Extended Forecast has been discontinued on the IntelliStar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 20, 2009, 12:17:05 AM
It's been a year since the three-day Extended Forecast has been discontinued on the IntelliStar.
I've noticed that... I haven't seen it in forever!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 20, 2009, 12:25:01 AM
It's been a year since the three-day Extended Forecast has been discontinued on the IntelliStar.
I've noticed that... I haven't seen it in forever!
That's because it's been, well... discontinued. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 21, 2009, 12:24:36 PM
I can't wait for the April 2009 playlist to start. :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on March 21, 2009, 12:28:54 PM
I can't wait for the April 2009 playlist to start. :happy:
Me too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 21, 2009, 12:47:25 PM
Let's hope it's a good one. There hasn't been a good playlist since December.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 21, 2009, 12:54:03 PM
I disagree, January's was very good and had a lot of variety and Feb's was alo minus the variety. March's playlist is good (not very good and not ok) there were some nice songs in it but too many reused songs. I hope April's has a lot of new songs, more new songs on each daypart, and maybe a song or two peviously used in April 2007.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 21, 2009, 01:32:10 PM
I have a couple of local forecast clips from Feb 2008 in my camcorder. I will try to transfer them to VHS. Would anyone be interested in watching them?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 21, 2009, 01:35:31 PM
I have a couple of local forecast clips from Feb 2008 in my camcorder. I will try to transfer them to VHS. Would anyone be interested in watching them?
Yes. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 21, 2009, 01:36:59 PM
I have a couple of local forecast clips from Feb 2008 in my camcorder. I will try to transfer them to VHS. Would anyone be interested in watching them?
Oh of course I would!  :yes:

I remain hopeful to once again hear some songs on the playlist some time this year from my wanted list, especially "Breathe In"!  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 21, 2009, 04:50:57 PM
What are the names of these 2 trammell songs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrC5YSJa2Uk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrC5YSJa2Uk#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 21, 2009, 06:23:01 PM
Lots of no reports. Time and temp only on ldl right now. No blue bar at all
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 21, 2009, 06:23:27 PM
Same here Martin. The LDL is borked majorly.  :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on March 21, 2009, 06:28:29 PM
...which leads into a good 'ol Sat. forecast.

EDIT:  ...the hell?  STAR has indeed crapped.  Looks cool with just the clock and temp, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 21, 2009, 06:34:03 PM
Lots of no reports. Time and temp only on ldl right now. No blue bar at all
Wow, that's bizzare! It's happening here too.......  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 21, 2009, 06:35:26 PM
National IntelliStar's doing the same. Video to come. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on March 21, 2009, 06:40:30 PM
oddly though, no trammell

This jogs my memory to another outage similar to this

Weatherscan seriously Screwed up, Video to come
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on March 21, 2009, 06:51:14 PM
Bar is back, no CCs, and is repeating tabs like four or five times.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 21, 2009, 06:53:16 PM
My guess is data outage on TWCs end
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 21, 2009, 06:54:22 PM
Only seeing Almanac, Tonight, and Sunday forecast tabs on the IS LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 21, 2009, 07:00:14 PM
Only seeing Almanac, Tonight, and Sunday forecast tabs on the IS LDL.
I am also seeing the "Air Quality" tab, and the information under the "Almanac" tab appears to repeat twice in a row.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 21, 2009, 07:01:51 PM
The LDL looks fine Except the Airport Delay and Now tabs are missing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 21, 2009, 07:20:56 PM
Intellistar for the first time went through the entire forecast. Ad scroll repeated twice. No light grey bar to the left of the time/temp
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 21, 2009, 07:22:16 PM
Intellistar for the first time went through the entire forecast. Ad scroll repeated twice. No light grey bar to the left of the time/temp
What? I still saw the Satellite LF, and nothing appears to have changed in the past 45 minutes
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 21, 2009, 07:23:45 PM
I just got back home not too long ago and this is what I'm seeing on my IntelliStar and LDL (so far)

Blue strip is missing from blue LDL
Ad crawl repeats on LDL during LF
No "The Week Ahead" segment
Now tab missing from LDL
The only available tabs on the LDL are 3 day, traffic, almanac, air quality then it loops back over.
Weatherscan is out, showing a frozen IntelliStar logo and no music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 21, 2009, 07:23:46 PM
Here's a video. What an odd OCM pairing btw. :wacko:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFPr_IhI8GQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFPr_IhI8GQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 21, 2009, 07:29:54 PM
Intellistar for the first time went through the entire forecast. Ad scroll repeated twice. No light grey bar to the left of the time/temp
What? I still saw the Satellite LF, and nothing appears to have changed in the past 45 minutes
Once in a while my intellistar kicks in for the 1min of the lf then goes to the sat.  :blink: Mostly sat forecasts though
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 21, 2009, 07:40:07 PM
Same as before.

Complete local forecast with no grey bar to the left of time/temp. Ad scroll loops over and over again
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 21, 2009, 07:41:11 PM
Intellistar for the first time went through the entire forecast. Ad scroll repeated twice. No light grey bar to the left of the time/temp
What? I still saw the Satellite LF, and nothing appears to have changed in the past 45 minutes
Once in a while my intellistar kicks in for the 1min of the lf then goes to the sat.  :blink: Mostly sat forecasts though
Okay, my IS is back, but it is also not showing the tab bar, and the ad crawl appears twice in a row here too. Also skips "The Week Ahead" as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on March 21, 2009, 07:45:35 PM
something is up must be a national problem and i saw 3 straight regional screens for the 1st time :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 21, 2009, 07:48:23 PM
Here is to what the National IntelliStar was doing earlier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hpB6DmX8k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hpB6DmX8k#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 21, 2009, 07:49:29 PM
back to normal I think
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 21, 2009, 07:50:13 PM
Intellistar is back to normal...  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 21, 2009, 07:52:47 PM
Gah, why do I always have to be away from home when things like this happen... <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 21, 2009, 07:56:16 PM
Intellistar is back to normal...  <_<
What's wrong with that? :huh:
I wasn't ready for it to go back to normal yet. I think it is funny when these things happen, and I was hoping for even more of an outage with some Trammell.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 21, 2009, 07:57:35 PM
Intellistar is back to normal...  <_<
What's wrong with that? :huh:
I wasn't ready for it to go back to normal yet. I think it is funny when these things happen, and I was hoping for even more of an outage with some Trammell.  :biggrin:
It's not that big of a deal. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on March 21, 2009, 08:03:56 PM
The IntelliStar is back to normal as of 6:58PM CDT. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 21, 2009, 08:09:05 PM
That was a wacky outage. Wonder what caused it?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 21, 2009, 08:09:45 PM
Gah, why do I always have to be away from home when things like this happen... <_<

I been asking myself the same thing recently.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on March 21, 2009, 08:16:38 PM
Intellistar for the first time went through the entire forecast. Ad scroll repeated twice. No light grey bar to the left of the time/temp
What? I still saw the Satellite LF, and nothing appears to have changed in the past 45 minutes
Once in a while my intellistar kicks in for the 1min of the lf then goes to the sat.  :blink: Mostly sat forecasts though
Okay, my IS is back, but it is also not showing the tab bar, and the ad crawl appears twice in a row here too. Also skips "The Week Ahead" as well.
that happened to me too

(p.s. My Luckiest Post, Number 777!)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 21, 2009, 09:59:14 PM
http://g.imagehost.org/download/0491/messup-0321-618pm (http://g.imagehost.org/download/0491/messup-0321-618pm) <= the first part of the IntelliStar screw up.
http://g.imagehost.org/download/0093/messup-0321-738pm (http://g.imagehost.org/download/0093/messup-0321-738pm) <= the attempted recovery before it got back to normal.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 22, 2009, 11:36:51 AM
Here is to what the National IntelliStar was doing earlier:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hpB6DmX8k#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27hpB6DmX8k#[/url])

I never saw that on my end. :blink: The LDL was completely off when they showed that segment.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 22, 2009, 01:57:40 PM
I found Wayne Gerard's myspace with his TWC music but it doesn't have "I'm All About You" or "My Favorite Girl". I'm guessing those songs were available in the old mp3.com. It also said in his profile that a "new cd" was in the works.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=388238156 (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=388238156)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 22, 2009, 06:13:22 PM
I hope this is not spamming, but I too got video of my IS booting, apparently a little later than everyone else's did.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yprwBInXgic#ws-hd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yprwBInXgic#ws-hd)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on March 23, 2009, 07:11:29 PM
I think my IS has gone carzy... it's showing that we got to a record low of 21 last night; although it actually was in the 50's. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on March 23, 2009, 07:29:27 PM
I think my IS has gone carzy... it's showing that we got to a record low of 21 last night; although it actually was in the 50's. :wacko:
Wouldn't that be an error with TWC's database? :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on March 23, 2009, 07:56:59 PM
Wouldn't that be an error with TWC's database? :thinking:
Most likely, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 24, 2009, 07:07:11 PM
Jeanne's CD "Make it Work" must be "More 2 Say" - her new album which has her TWC songs. You'll see a flash banner on the top showing that same exact CD "More 2Say"
http://www.ricksofactomusic.com/music.html (http://www.ricksofactomusic.com/music.html) I don't see any song samples so I'm not 100% sure.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 26, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
That XL has since been upgraded, and merged with other regional headends, and is now part of the "Grove City/Mercer/Slipper Rock" headend. And yes, that is how the LF pages are titled (with 3 cities).
Greenville, PA apparently still gets the Mercer County XL as of last October. This is the same XL Sharon used to have, just a modified config:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOoZcWWHh_g&feature=channel_page# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOoZcWWHh_g&feature=channel_page#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 26, 2009, 07:09:03 PM
Yeah, that's a separate unit, which is through an independent cable co., IIRC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 27, 2009, 06:03:02 AM
Satellite outage has been going on for the past couple of hours or so, I just saw a blank station ID for the first time ever here at 5:58 AM EDT, and no LDL! What gives?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2009, 06:22:36 AM
Same problems here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 27, 2009, 06:26:42 AM
Two in one week? This must be bad if I got a blank station ID, since I never get those...  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Jonathan on March 27, 2009, 07:57:03 PM
I really wish the Satellite LF would get more graphically advanced than several seemingly-GIF images with a fade transition.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on March 27, 2009, 08:42:02 PM
I really wish the Satellite LF would get more graphically advanced than several seemingly-GIF images with a fade transition.
Yeah, they've been using the same one for many years. I think since 99. Not sure.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Jonathan on March 27, 2009, 09:57:19 PM
I really wish the Satellite LF would get more graphically advanced than several seemingly-GIF images with a fade transition.
Yeah, they've been using the same one for many years. I think since 99. Not sure.

That is excluding changes to the headers and (occasionally) fonts. However, I think they just continually re-render the backgrounds and say, "Okay! Done!" and leave the building.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 28, 2009, 12:17:42 AM
I really wish the Satellite LF would get more graphically advanced than several seemingly-GIF images with a fade transition.
Yeah, they've been using the same one for many years. I think since 99. Not sure.
Yeah, they've been using it since mid 1999. IMO, there's nothing wrong with the current satellite LF, so why change it? I believe TWC must think the same way, or else they probably would've changed it by now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 28, 2009, 11:59:56 AM
I agree, they should change the base maps and radars. They've been the same since 2003, it should be changed. I don't see why they changed the graphics and the Precip/severe wx maps but not the radars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 28, 2009, 12:06:25 PM
I agree, they should change the base maps and radars. They've been the same since 2003, it should be changed. I don't see why they changed the graphics and the Precip/severe wx maps but not the radars.
Didn't they change the satellite forecast maps slightly in 2005 (like May or June)?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 28, 2009, 12:13:05 PM
I agree, they should change the base maps and radars. They've been the same since 2003, it should be changed. I don't see why they changed the graphics and the Precip/severe wx maps but not the radars.
Didn't they change the satellite forecast maps slightly in 2005 (like May or June)?
Nope it was exactly the same. They just changed the graphics and titlebars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 28, 2009, 01:06:19 PM
Does anyone know how 'scattered strong thunderstorms' would show up on the XL during the daypart and week ahead screens? I ran into this problem yesterday while creating a video for Gulfport. Since the XL spells out 'scattered' during the daypart forecast, and 'strong thunderstorms' already takes up 2 lines, how would it show up? Here are images of the two screens if it helps.

(http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/XL_Dpt.png)

(http://myrandomtwcstuff.googlepages.com/XL_Wk.png)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 28, 2009, 01:13:59 PM
They abbreviated Thunderstorms with "T-Storms". Like "Sct T-Storms" or "Strong T-Storms".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on March 28, 2009, 01:16:53 PM
I think it would only say just "Strong Storms" i remember seeing it on my XL in 2003.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 28, 2009, 03:08:42 PM
Does anyone know how 'scattered strong thunderstorms' would show up on the XL during the daypart and week ahead screens? I ran into this problem yesterday while creating a video for Gulfport. Since the XL spells out 'scattered' during the daypart forecast, and 'strong thunderstorms' already takes up 2 lines, how would it show up?
During the daypart, "Sct'd Strong" would appear on the first line followed by Thunderstorms as usual on the bottom line.
During the week ahead, "Sct'd" displays on the first line, followed by "Strong" on the second line and "Storms" on the bottom/3rd line.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 29, 2009, 12:14:56 PM
Well I found Wayne Gerard's "I'm All About You" on the old mp3.com.
http://web.archive.org/web/20000707023126/artists.mp3s.com/artists/29/wayne_gerard.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20000707023126/artists.mp3s.com/artists/29/wayne_gerard.html)

If ya'll are able to find a way to play the track, let us know but I'm guessing this is where all of Wayne Gerard's unavailable music used to be, same with Ryan Farish and Chris Geith. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 29, 2009, 07:42:11 PM
Did they reduce the number of beeps for a Severe Thunderstorm Warning crawl from 7 to 4? Both warnings I've had only had 4 beeps...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 29, 2009, 07:45:48 PM
Did they reduce the number of beeps for a Severe Thunderstorm Warning crawl from 7 to 4? Both warnings I've had only had 4 beeps...

I think they did, I was under a Severe T-Storm Warning and Flood Warning yesterday and it only beeped 4 times.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 29, 2009, 07:46:01 PM
Did they reduce the number of beeps for a Severe Thunderstorm Warning crawl from 7 to 4? Both warnings I've had only had 4 beeps...
That's odd...
Did you hear this at all?:
3 Beeps, then "A Severe Thunderstorm Warning has been issued for your area", then 3 more beeps?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 29, 2009, 07:51:19 PM
Did they reduce the number of beeps for a Severe Thunderstorm Warning crawl from 7 to 4? Both warnings I've had only had 4 beeps...
That's odd...
Did you hear this at all?:
3 Beeps, then "A Severe Thunderstorm Warning has been issued for your area", then 3 more beeps?
that's what it used to do, it hasn't today :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 29, 2009, 07:59:07 PM
Did they reduce the number of beeps for a Severe Thunderstorm Warning crawl from 7 to 4? Both warnings I've had only had 4 beeps...

That's odd...
Did you hear this at all?:
3 Beeps, then "A Severe Thunderstorm Warning has been issued for your area", then 3 more beeps?
that's what it used to do, it hasn't today :thinking:
I'm going to recant that now... It just fixed itself, as well as trying to initialize the crawl four times  :blink:
http://f.imagehost.org/download/0970/4initialize (http://f.imagehost.org/download/0970/4initialize)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 29, 2009, 08:45:29 PM
I've had several warnings today and only heard the usual 3 and 3.  :yes:

Vic, those songs can't be downloaded in any way because they no longer exist on the server.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 29, 2009, 09:56:43 PM
We had a severe thunderstorm warning issued until 9pm. Nothing at all, no thunder or rain. :( I did record a 1 min local forecast of the warning activated though.

And Gary, I understand now. I guess it wouldn't work if they archived the player either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 31, 2009, 08:37:01 PM
I hope any songs from Apr 07 play on the Apr list tomorrow. :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on March 31, 2009, 08:38:36 PM
I can't wait for the April 2009 playlist to start. :happy:
I'm guessing that the 4/09 playlist will start tomorrow.
I hope any songs from Apr 07 play on the Apr list tomorrow. :happy:
Me too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 01, 2009, 09:15:09 AM
So far no new playlist yet  :censored:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 01, 2009, 02:40:20 PM
So far no new playlist yet  :censored:
I see that. Don't worry, it will transition eventually.
Remember this:
In November 2008, the October playlist continued for the first two days of the month, and on the 3rd and 4th, November songs were intermingled with the October songs until it finally transitioned over to the November playlist.

In January 2009, the playlist did not change from December to January songs until the first Monday of the month, January 6th.

So be patient, it will happen over the next 24-48 hours.  :yes:
...or wait a couple weeks, since something appears to be happening at TWC :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 06, 2009, 11:59:50 AM
Wow. The National IntelliStar is displaying an advertisement for the MLB Network. :blink:

Video to come shortly. :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on April 06, 2009, 12:37:23 PM
Wow. The National IntelliStar is displaying an advertisement for the MLB Network. :blink:

Video to come shortly. :biggrin:
So are the local IntelliStars. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on April 06, 2009, 04:07:25 PM
don't know if this is a state the obvious contest, but earlier this morning, i noticed the station ID at 6:57 was of a flower background.. looked kinda pastel-ish.. also intro to the LF showing with TWC logo filled up by rain, the audio was changed to a female announcer.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on April 06, 2009, 04:10:25 PM
Yes, a new station ID and a new LF intro were introduced today.  I think someone else mentioned them in the TWC General Discussion thread, too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 06, 2009, 04:15:08 PM
don't know if this is a state the obvious contest, but earlier this morning, i noticed the station ID at 6:57 was of a flower background.. looked kinda pastel-ish.. also intro to the LF showing with TWC logo filled up by rain, the audio was changed to a female announcer.
whoa that's new! It would be cool to hear a female narration on the IntelliSTAR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 06, 2009, 04:16:04 PM
Yes, a new station ID and a new LF intro were introduced today.  I think someone else mentioned them in the TWC General Discussion thread, too.
I actually noticed two new station ID's this morning, the other one being of what looked like a dock at the level of a lake.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 06, 2009, 04:22:59 PM
I think I found the unknown latin primetime song on CDBaby after searching for "Sounds like Jesse Cook and Ottmar Liebert".  :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on April 06, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
has anyone recorded the new station ID bits ?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 06, 2009, 04:26:27 PM
has anyone recorded the new station ID bits ?
I have recorded the one with the flower, but missed the one with the dock...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 06, 2009, 04:28:47 PM
has anyone recorded the new station ID bits ?
sure i can record the :58 one
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 06, 2009, 06:05:48 PM
As of today, my IntelliSTAR is finally showing the monthly precipitation for my area on the almanac tabs. Finally, hasn't seen the monthly precipitation on the LDL since before the HD relaunch.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 06, 2009, 06:34:26 PM
Today, the monthly precip indicator switched from NWS sites to Truepoint sites. All Istars should now show the precip data from your HiRAD ob point.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 06, 2009, 06:42:22 PM
Yes, a new station ID and a new LF intro were introduced today.  I think someone else mentioned them in the TWC General Discussion thread, too.
I actually noticed two new station ID's this morning, the other one being of what looked like a dock at the level of a lake.
It's about time since they change the Station ID's. :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 06, 2009, 06:47:17 PM
Yes, a new station ID and a new LF intro were introduced today.  I think someone else mentioned them in the TWC General Discussion thread, too.
I actually noticed two new station ID's this morning, the other one being of what looked like a dock at the level of a lake.
It's about time since they change the Station ID's. :happy:
Exactly, could not agree more.  :thumbsup:
I actually saw one that looked like a city at 5:57  :clap:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on April 06, 2009, 09:09:25 PM
Yay! I've been waiting for them to change the station id's for a while now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 07, 2009, 08:54:21 AM
Today, the monthly precip indicator switched from NWS sites to Truepoint sites. All Istars should now show the precip data from your HiRAD ob point.
So more illegitament information now?
What are they going to guess on next?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 07, 2009, 08:58:47 AM
That precip indicator from Truepoint must have been glitching up or it's not that accurate, it said I picked up 1.36 in. then it said 1.34 in. how do you lose precip that you already gained? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 07, 2009, 09:43:34 AM
I don't know if this is just my Intellistar or anybody else's, but my Intellistar has been ending two seconds or so past the music, and the audio is constantly in and out for the last 20-30 seconds. Also, I saw two seconds of the satellite LF before my Intellistar cued in on the most recent LF. However, this only occurred at 9:38 AM EDT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 07, 2009, 09:51:14 AM
Of course, as soon as I say something about it, any problems seen are fixed.  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 07, 2009, 09:56:08 AM
I don't know if this is just my Intellistar or anybody else's, but my Intellistar has been ending two seconds or so past the music, and the audio is constantly in and out for the last 20-30 seconds. Also, I saw two seconds of the satellite LF before my Intellistar cued in on the most recent LF. However, this only occurred at 9:38 AM EDT.

I saw this problem a lot yesterday, I even saw the Sat LF run the whole 2 mins. whenever it came up.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: kpetree10 on April 07, 2009, 09:56:58 AM
I noticed that on mine too, I saw the Satellite LF at first, I didn't notice if the music ended early.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 09, 2009, 09:10:20 AM
has anyone ever seen this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNHy0q3GE7g&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNHy0q3GE7g&fmt=18#)

Double click to see it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 09, 2009, 09:41:53 AM
That precip indicator from Truepoint must have been glitching up or it's not that accurate, it said I picked up 1.36 in. then it said 1.34 in. how do you lose precip that you already gained? :blink:
Also, my Intellistar is guessing 1.73" for the month of April. Yesterday, it guessed 1.68". Lansing has seen some nice sunny weather over the past couple of days, and not a drop has fallen (and definitely not 0.05"). The airport, which is less than 5 miles away from me, has an official reading of 1.61", and has not changed since the 6th.

This is just plain stupid, as all local information has become far too local and is now just completely computer guesses. Nothing beats the real thing (actual, not computer guessed, observations). Plus, some Intellistars serve pretty big areas. Mine does not serve as big an area as some other Intellistar units, but it does serve a pretty large one. All kinds of factors play in to precip amounts, including local demographics, and where thunderstorms track. I know here in Lansing, I-496, which goes straight through Lansing, is basically the dividing line for everything. People south of I-496 can get thunderstorms and pouring rain while those of us north of R.E. Olds Freeway get nothing. While this is the problem that the Intellistar is trying to solve, it does a poor job at it, that is for sure.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 09, 2009, 04:11:43 PM
Just made a really interesting find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ7pGVWWEtU#ws-hd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ7pGVWWEtU#ws-hd)

An XL from Clovis, NM. Check out the Current Conditions... "Blowing Dust" with the Partly Cloudy icon and no Current Conditions narration. B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on April 09, 2009, 10:07:09 PM
uhhhh those are the exact same videos :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 09, 2009, 10:29:21 PM
uhhhh those are the exact same videos :unsure:
Oops, didn't see his post.  :pinch:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 10, 2009, 10:10:05 AM
After watching one of Zach's Satellite IntelliStar videos, it seems that the "Local On The 8s" logo in the upper right-hand corner is now transparent (the blue background of the logo is gone).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2hTjTZs-m0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2hTjTZs-m0#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 10, 2009, 11:31:47 AM
It's been like that for about 4 days now LOL. I like the transparent logo!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 10, 2009, 11:33:09 AM
Yeah, I kinda didn't know about that until I saw one of Molly's videos. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on April 11, 2009, 01:28:25 PM
Just made a really interesting find:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ7pGVWWEtU#ws-hd[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ7pGVWWEtU#ws-hd[/url])

An XL from Clovis, NM. Check out the Current Conditions... "Blowing Dust" with the Partly Cloudy icon and no Current Conditions narration. B)


I wonder how the XL takes up the whole screen like that...I didn't think XLs broadcast in HD. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 11, 2009, 01:32:05 PM
Just made a really interesting find:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ7pGVWWEtU#ws-hd[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ7pGVWWEtU#ws-hd[/url])

An XL from Clovis, NM. Check out the Current Conditions... "Blowing Dust" with the Partly Cloudy icon and no Current Conditions narration. B)


I wonder how the XL takes up the whole screen like that...I didn't think XLs broadcast in HD. :unsure:

It's because the camera that was used to record it recorded it in HD. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on April 11, 2009, 05:58:39 PM
That's a 4:3 SD picture stretched to 16:9 on the HDTV. It'd not HD.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 11, 2009, 06:55:41 PM
Found 3 Smyrna, GA HD Star pics on Sillicondust

http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/54/snapshot_11025754.jpg (http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/54/snapshot_11025754.jpg)

http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_11000855.jpg (http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_11000855.jpg)

http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/14/snapshot_11057114.jpg (http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/14/snapshot_11057114.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 11, 2009, 09:03:07 PM
Found 3 Smyrna, GA HD Star pics on Sillicondust

[url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/54/snapshot_11025754.jpg[/url] ([url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/54/snapshot_11025754.jpg[/url])

[url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_11000855.jpg[/url] ([url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_11000855.jpg[/url])

[url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/14/snapshot_11057114.jpg[/url] ([url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/14/snapshot_11057114.jpg[/url])

Those aren't the HD STAR. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 11, 2009, 10:06:00 PM
Sorry billy i got alittle to excited

I Found a new XL *Seminole,TX*

http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/80/snapshot_10939180.jpg (http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/80/snapshot_10939180.jpg)

http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/69/snapshot_11022669.jpg (http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/69/snapshot_11022669.jpg)

http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_10970455.jpg (http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_10970455.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 11, 2009, 11:59:11 PM
That's actually probably from Andrews, TX seeing how that's the forecast city. BTW, how did you know about Silicondust? I've known that site for months but didn't know anyone else here did.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on April 12, 2009, 12:18:31 AM
That's actually probably from Andrews, TX seeing how that's the forecast city. BTW, how did you know about Silicondust? I've known that site for months but didn't know anyone else here did.
It became the subject of discussion in Martin's stream channel.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 12, 2009, 01:26:49 PM
proof providence has a traffic map

http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/85/snapshot_9958485.jpg (http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/85/snapshot_9958485.jpg)

also i saw the providence star in December and it had the same config
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 12, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
Sorry billy i got alittle to excited

I Found a new XL *Seminole,TX*

[url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/80/snapshot_10939180.jpg[/url] ([url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/80/snapshot_10939180.jpg[/url])

[url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/69/snapshot_11022669.jpg[/url] ([url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/69/snapshot_11022669.jpg[/url])

[url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_10970455.jpg[/url] ([url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_10970455.jpg[/url])

How exactly does that site work? I can't seem to get it to show any TWC pictures from my area or any neighboring areas... :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 12, 2009, 03:28:35 PM
Type in the zip. Not all areas have TWC, my area didn't have TWC recognized. :(
http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us (http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on April 12, 2009, 06:27:10 PM
[url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/54/snapshot_11025754.jpg[/url] ([url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/54/snapshot_11025754.jpg[/url])

[url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_11000855.jpg[/url] ([url]http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/55/snapshot_11000855.jpg[/url])
Left display area (that new thing) = win.  Graphics look awesome, and would make an excellent STAR HD, well, LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 13, 2009, 05:07:40 PM
Hmm, no ad crawl at 4:58 PM EDT  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 13, 2009, 05:41:55 PM
I think I have an idea as to what happened.......

It seems to me as though the text in the LF was enlarged as an update was made to the Intellistar. Notice the size of the text expecially in the CC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on April 13, 2009, 05:46:42 PM
...and at the same time, they launched this new logo for the satellite STARs:

http://g.imagehost.org/0615/0413091639.jpg (http://g.imagehost.org/0615/0413091639.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 13, 2009, 05:51:03 PM
...and at the same time, they launched this new logo for the satellite STARs:

[url]http://g.imagehost.org/0615/0413091639.jpg[/url] ([url]http://g.imagehost.org/0615/0413091639.jpg[/url])

Hmm, interesting, I think I like that one  :yes:
So, did they actually enlarge all the text? And why isn't the ad crawl displaying (not that that is a hue problem to me, but it is strange and there must be a reason behind its lack of presence)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 13, 2009, 05:54:33 PM
...and at the same time, they launched this new logo for the satellite STARs:

[url]http://g.imagehost.org/0615/0413091639.jpg[/url] ([url]http://g.imagehost.org/0615/0413091639.jpg[/url])
I like this one better than the other one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 13, 2009, 07:51:48 PM
Notice the size of the text expecially in the CC.

You talking about the domestic Istar? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 13, 2009, 08:44:47 PM
Notice the size of the text expecially in the CC.
You talking about the domestic Istar? :unsure:
Yes I am. I have been scanning the LF for changes, and the text on the front page CC as well as the 8 city 'guesses' page (both city and temp) and the text on the text based forecast seem larger to me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 14, 2009, 11:11:40 AM
if anyone is looking for chris geith twc tunes (http://searchservice.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sitesearch.results&qry=chris%20geith&type=Music&prev=Web) here you go!


Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2009, 03:16:25 PM
Well, I have made a strange discovery today. The ad crawl is STILL missing on my Intellistar, but at school today (I go to school at Haslett, which gets the East Lansing headend), I noticed the ad crawl displayed there, so I assumed it came back. However, it is still missing in Lansing. I wonder if any other Intellistar units are doing this, or if it is just mine acting up again?  :dunno:

I also saw two new LF intros today.  :clap: One of them was a modified version of an intro from last year I was looking for!  :thrilled:  :dance:
I will edit my montage and re-upload it as soon as I see another new one, since my rule is to update it once I get 3 new intros to add to it :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2009, 03:41:26 PM
1) The text was never enlarged.

2) Missing ad crawls aren't a problem. It may of been your headend's decision to pull them (for whatever reason).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
1) The text was never enlarged.

2) Missing ad crawls aren't a problem. It may of been your headend's decision to pull them (for whatever reason).
Okay. It was just one of those feelings where something seems off and I am not sure what is not normal or out of place.

Well, it is still a mystery to me as to why the ad crawl was pulled then. Perhaps I should call and ask them why, but then again, I most likely won't reach my actal cable office and it is not a problem to me anyway. :itsok:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 14, 2009, 04:20:08 PM
Speaking of ad crawls, I've seen IntelliStars in the area (pretty much all along interior South Jersey) showing ads about a cigar shop in the area, and has for years. Isn't it illegal to advertise tobacco products?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2009, 04:26:02 PM
Isn't it illegal to advertise tobacco products?

No? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2009, 04:42:11 PM
Speaking of ad crawls, I've seen IntelliStars in the area (pretty much all along interior South Jersey) showing ads about a cigar shop in the area, and has for years. Isn't it illegal to advertise tobacco products?
Well, it must not be if it has been allowed to be on the ad crawl for all those years. Unfortuately, there is nothing you can do about the ad crawls  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2009, 04:53:04 PM
Well, 'False'point (as I like to call it) is now guessing I have received 2.58" of precipitation this month, when it said 2.63" just a few minutes ago.

How often does 'False'point update? Once a day around midnight like the legitament observations are done, or is it instaneous?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2009, 04:58:49 PM
Pretty much done as fast as HiRAD updates.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2009, 05:01:07 PM
Well, 'False'point (as I like to call it) is now guessing I have received 2.58" of precipitation this month, when it said 2.63" just a few minutes ago.
Correction, now up to 2.62".

Pretty much done as fast as HiRAD updates.
Well, not to be annoying or redundant, but about how often is that?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2009, 05:19:56 PM
As often as your CC obs update. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 14, 2009, 05:39:10 PM
Well, 'False'point (as I like to call it) is now guessing I have received 2.58" of precipitation this month, when it said 2.63" just a few minutes ago.

How often does 'False'point update? Once a day around midnight like the legitament observations are done, or is it instaneous?
lol, Falsepoint. Odd how the precip total dropped, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 14, 2009, 05:40:01 PM
Well, not to be annoying or redundant, but about how often is that?  :dunno:
Three times an hour; at :05, :25, and :45.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 14, 2009, 05:51:57 PM
if anyone is looking for chris geith twc tunes ([url]http://searchservice.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sitesearch.results&qry=chris%20geith&type=Music&prev=Web[/url]) here you go!
Thanks for the find!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2009, 05:52:50 PM
Well, not to be annoying or redundant, but about how often is that?  :dunno:
Three times an hour; at :05, :25, and :45.
Okay, thanks!  :D

Well, 'False'point (as I like to call it) is now guessing I have received 2.58" of precipitation this month, when it said 2.63" just a few minutes ago.

How often does 'False'point update? Once a day around midnight like the legitament observations are done, or is it instaneous?
lol, Falsepoint. Odd how the precip total dropped, though.
Yeah, I am not going to call it "tru"point since it is merely a computer guessing how much precipitation has fallen on a 50+ square mile area (for my headend, I think.......)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 14, 2009, 05:55:43 PM
Well, not to be annoying or redundant, but about how often is that?  :dunno:
Three times an hour; at :05, :25, and :45.
It's not necessarily always at those specific times.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 14, 2009, 06:06:17 PM
Oh, okay. When I look up the weather on weather.com it always says the last update was one of those three times, so I assumed it was the same on TV.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 14, 2009, 06:31:09 PM
got some news everyone

 Jeanne just told in a message headsup the music company that did not sign her, has "gone under."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on April 14, 2009, 09:56:06 PM
got some news everyone

 Jeanne just told in a message headsup the music company that did not sign her, has "gone under."
What does this news mean for the LF music then? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 14, 2009, 11:35:33 PM
if anyone is looking for chris geith twc tunes ([url]http://searchservice.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sitesearch.results&qry=chris%20geith&type=Music&prev=Web[/url]) here you go!
Thanks for the find!

Uhh I see nothing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 14, 2009, 11:54:28 PM
got some news everyone

 Jeanne just told in a message headsup the music company that did not sign her, has "gone under."
What does this news mean for the LF music then? :dunno:
Nothing, it's just about her signing up for a major company.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 16, 2009, 08:22:47 AM
Well, Falsepoint was guessing that Downtwon Lansing has received 3.52" of precip for April, and starting at 9 PM EDT, it decided that we have received 3.22". I am so annoyed that the last piece of credible information was replaced by a computer guess that can't make up its mind!  :censored:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 16, 2009, 08:25:19 AM
Well, Falsepoint was guessing that Downtwon Lansing has received 3.52" of precip for April, and starting at 9 PM EDT, it decided that we have received 3.22". I am so annoyed that the last piece of credible information was replaced by a computer guess that can't make up its mind!  :censored:
Well, the feature is pretty new. Maybe it's just a glitch or something that has to be fixed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 16, 2009, 03:53:09 PM
Well, Falsepoint was guessing that Downtwon Lansing has received 3.52" of precip for April, and starting at 9 PM EDT, it decided that we have received 3.22". I am so annoyed that the last piece of credible information was replaced by a computer guess that can't make up its mind!  :censored:
Well, the feature is pretty new. Maybe it's just a glitch or something that has to be fixed.

I hope so, it's playing the same guessing games for me too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 16, 2009, 04:02:32 PM
Well, Falsepoint was guessing that Downtwon Lansing has received 3.52" of precip for April, and starting at 9 PM EDT, it decided that we have received 3.22". I am so annoyed that the last piece of credible information was replaced by a computer guess that can't make up its mind!  :censored:
Well, the feature is pretty new. Maybe it's just a glitch or something that has to be fixed.

I hope so, it's playing the same guessing games for me too.
Well, this all just proves my point. All that it is is a complete guess. As everyone can probably tell by now, I am sick and tired of computer guesses completely filling my LF. That is why I am glad there appears to be a HiRAD outage right now, less than 10 minues after my Intellistar rebooted! (perhaps that is why HiRAD is out here?)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 16, 2009, 04:23:34 PM
This is one strange but cool song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 16, 2009, 04:31:05 PM
This is one strange but cool song!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed[/url])


I really like that song.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: zone OH11 on April 16, 2009, 04:31:36 PM
I instantly like that song. I haven't noticed anything odd on my intellistar for a while now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on April 16, 2009, 04:33:47 PM
Well, Falsepoint was guessing that Downtwon Lansing has received 3.52" of precip for April, and starting at 9 PM EDT, it decided that we have received 3.22". I am so annoyed that the last piece of credible information was replaced by a computer guess that can't make up its mind!  :censored:
Well, the feature is pretty new. Maybe it's just a glitch or something that has to be fixed.

I hope so, it's playing the same guessing games for me too.
Well, this all just proves my point. All that it is is a complete guess. As everyone can probably tell by now, I am sick and tired of computer guesses completely filling my LF. That is why I am glad there appears to be a HiRAD outage right now, less than 10 minues after my Intellistar rebooted! (perhaps that is why HiRAD is out here?)

there seems to be a lot of complaining going around -- really; just get over it. there is nothing we can do about what you dislike, you said it already don't repeat what you've already said.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 16, 2009, 04:36:26 PM
This is one strange but cool song!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed[/url])


I really like that song.  :yes:

Same here! I recorded it :)
Is it copyrighted at all?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on April 16, 2009, 04:37:48 PM
Speaking of ad crawls, I've seen IntelliStars in the area (pretty much all along interior South Jersey) showing ads about a cigar shop in the area, and has for years. Isn't it illegal to advertise tobacco products?

It is illegal to advertise cigarette products on TV and the radio.

I'm not so sure about cigars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 16, 2009, 04:39:05 PM
Well, Falsepoint was guessing that Downtwon Lansing has received 3.52" of precip for April, and starting at 9 PM EDT, it decided that we have received 3.22". I am so annoyed that the last piece of credible information was replaced by a computer guess that can't make up its mind!  :censored:
Well, the feature is pretty new. Maybe it's just a glitch or something that has to be fixed.

I hope so, it's playing the same guessing games for me too.
Well, this all just proves my point. All that it is is a complete guess. As everyone can probably tell by now, I am sick and tired of computer guesses completely filling my LF. That is why I am glad there appears to be a HiRAD outage right now, less than 10 minues after my Intellistar rebooted! (perhaps that is why HiRAD is out here?)

there seems to be a lot of complaining going around -- really; just get over it. there is nothing we can do about what you dislike, you said it already don't repeat what you've already said.
Yeah, ok. You complaining about me complaining is not going to solve any problems either. And really, it is not that bad. I have made it obvious how I feel, but I don't just complain and complain day in, day out. Try ignoring my posts when you think I am complaining.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 16, 2009, 04:40:06 PM
This is one strange but cool song!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed[/url])


I really like that song.  :yes:


Here's the song http://media.imeem.com/m/KMT2Ea-bp1 (http://media.imeem.com/m/KMT2Ea-bp1)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: hen7713 on April 16, 2009, 05:00:49 PM
Are they using Production Music on the LF now?
I don't even want to watch the LF anymore, the main reason I watch TWC is for the Jazz on the LF.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on April 16, 2009, 05:22:30 PM
Are they using Production Music on the LF now?
I don't even want to watch the LF anymore, the main reason I watch TWC is for the Jazz on the LF.  :hmm:
The playlist for April/May 2009 was posted in another thread recently.  Here's the link to that post:  https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,2122.msg92849.html#msg92849 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,2122.msg92849.html#msg92849)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 16, 2009, 05:31:25 PM
Urm, that song is by the Verve Music Group which is a division of UMG. Better remove it...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 16, 2009, 05:33:59 PM
Urm, that song is by the Verve Music Group which is a division of UMG. Better remove it...
Why remove it? If it's on YT safe then keep it there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 16, 2009, 05:35:01 PM
Urm, that song is by the Verve Music Group which is a division of UMG. Better remove it...
Why remove it? If it's on YT safe then keep it there.
Yes, but eventually it will be removed and I'm not risking getting suspended.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 16, 2009, 05:37:50 PM
Chances are that it'll never be removed once you are able to upload it successfully within this past year. If u uploaded a copyrighted song in 2006 then you might want to remove it but if you uploaded it recently then it's fine.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on April 16, 2009, 06:18:07 PM
As of today, Houston, TX is now brought back on the IntelliStar ID #24920's Getaway Forecast page.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 18, 2009, 11:52:08 AM
This may have been asked before...but how come some IntelliStars have Ad crawls displayed during the local forecast segments while others don't?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on April 18, 2009, 12:48:55 PM
This may have been asked before...but how come some IntelliStars have Ad crawls displayed during the local forecast segments while others don't?

it's completely up to the cable company from my understandings.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 18, 2009, 04:05:47 PM
This may have been asked before...but how come some IntelliStars have Ad crawls displayed during the local forecast segments while others don't?

it's completely up to the cable company from my understandings.
That is correct. Sometimes TWC puts their own ads onto the Stars, though, such as the ones advertising Storm Stories, TWC HD, etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on April 18, 2009, 08:59:09 PM
This is one strange but cool song!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPZCA1dwlA#noexternalembed[/url])


Blues From Brother George Jackson by Archie Shepp from Verve Remixed 2 (straight ahead jazz meets techno) style album
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: texasstooge on April 20, 2009, 02:53:19 PM
As of today, my IntelliSTAR is finally showing the monthly precipitation for my area on the almanac tabs. Finally, hasn't seen the monthly precipitation on the LDL since before the HD relaunch.

I've got that as well.

As of now, the precip in "Irving" (according to HiRad/TruPoint) has reached 2.25 in.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 20, 2009, 05:24:23 PM
Got some news everyone its about the Intellistar!

i got in contact with someone from The Weather Channel about the Narration (i know its not going anywhere) but here's what Lee Pettit, Manager of the Fall River account of The Weather Channel.

Quote
We are planning some product enhancements (software upgrade) to the IStar this summer and in fact, are already talking about developing the next generation of Star.  Hopefully one of these two initiatives will fix the problems you are having.
 
- Lee

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on April 20, 2009, 05:35:02 PM
Got some news everyone its about the Intellistar!

i got in contact with someone from The Weather Channel about the Narration (i know its not going anywhere) but here's what Lee Pettit, Manager of the Fall River account of The Weather Channel.

Quote
We are planning some product enhancements (software upgrade) to the IStar this summer and in fact, are already talking about developing the next generation of Star.  Hopefully one of these two initiatives will fix the problems you are having.
 
- Lee

she's probably referring to the final release of the HD Star...i don't see the intellistar going anywhere anytime soon, especially since it just received a so called "graphic overhaul", and if they are considering developing another generation of the weather star...then let mother nature from a tropical system in the middle of texas. :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on April 20, 2009, 05:57:48 PM
That's cool that it's going to receive an upgrade this summer. Maybe it will actually correspond with the on-air stuff? :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 20, 2009, 06:31:36 PM
Interesting..would this affect the satellite IStar by any chance?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 20, 2009, 06:49:14 PM
Interesting..would this affect the satellite IStar by any chance?

I think so let's wait and see ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 20, 2009, 09:09:22 PM
Along the way by brian hughes has played on every single 2 minute flavour since 8 o clock so far. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 23, 2009, 11:51:18 AM
HiRAD is really messed up right now. It's reporting temperatures in the region in the low 30s when actually temps are in the 50s.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 23, 2009, 03:50:16 PM
HiRAD is really messed up right now. It's reporting temperatures in the region in the low 30s when actually temps are in the 50s.
Fine <coughs> guessing illegitament numbers that are at least close here. There must be something wrong with your unit specifically.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 23, 2009, 04:07:40 PM
HiRAD is really messed up right now. It's reporting temperatures in the region in the low 30s when actually temps are in the 50s.
There must be something wrong with your unit specifically.
No, they were wrong on weather.com, too. The problem was fixed about 30 minutes after I originally posted.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 23, 2009, 05:40:38 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a list of all Intellistar units that exist or were installed along with the unit ID's and locations? I am curious to know where the first Intellistar was installed and the Unit ID's for some areas around here. I am also hoping to find out which area has unit ID 22841, as there is a gap between 22840 (Lansing) and 22842 (East Lansing).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 23, 2009, 10:20:08 PM
"Rendezvous" by Eric Marienthal once again at 9:49 PM EDT.......  :blink:  :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 23, 2009, 10:21:38 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a list of all Intellistar units that exist or were installed along with the unit ID's and locations? I am curious to know where the first Intellistar was installed and the Unit ID's for some areas around here. I am also hoping to find out which area has unit ID 22841, as there is a gap between 22840 (Lansing) and 22842 (East Lansing).
There is no official list that I know of. We did have a database here on the site where users would submit their STAR data to it, but that disappeared awhile back for whatever reason.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 24, 2009, 03:24:19 PM
"Rendezvous" by Eric Marienthal once again at 9:49 PM EDT.......  :blink:  :wacko:
My god.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 24, 2009, 07:11:28 PM
Got some news everyone its about the Intellistar!

i got in contact with someone from The Weather Channel about the Narration (i know its not going anywhere) but here's what Lee Pettit, Manager of the Fall River account of The Weather Channel.

Quote
We are planning some product enhancements (software upgrade) to the IStar this summer and in fact, are already talking about developing the next generation of Star.  Hopefully one of these two initiatives will fix the problems you are having.
 
- Lee
Hey Alex (I think that is your name), could you give me the contct information (e-mail) for this person you e-mailed about the Intellistar in the quote above? I have a few questions to ask him. Also, could I have the e-mail address for the person you e-mailed about the April 2009 playlist back at the beginning of the month? Thanks  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 24, 2009, 08:48:41 PM
"Rendezvous" by Eric Marienthal once again at 8:47 PM EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 25, 2009, 11:43:54 AM
Well what's going on here?  :dunno:
Severe Thunderstorm Watch 181 was issued about an hour ago. It took until the 11:08 AM EDT LF to even show up on the bulletin page. There still has not been a Severe Thunderstorm Watch crawl and the tab for it has not appeared at all yet. Is this a problem with my Intellistar specifically?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 27, 2009, 04:12:54 PM
I don't know if it is just me, but over the past couple of days, some of the songs on the playlist sound different or remixed.  :dunno:
Video to come soon, a sped-up comparison of "Camouflage" by Boney James in both versions.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 27, 2009, 06:01:51 PM
I don't know if it is just me, but over the past couple of days, some of the songs on the playlist sound different or remixed.  :dunno:
Video to come soon, a sped-up comparison of "Camouflage" by Boney James in both versions.
I heard that too this morning. :wacko:

Also, why is "If I Could" by Phish being played during Daytime Hours during DE Flavors Only? :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 27, 2009, 07:06:15 PM
I don't know if it is just me, but over the past couple of days, some of the songs on the playlist sound different or remixed.  :dunno:
Video to come soon, a sped-up comparison of "Camouflage" by Boney James in both versions.
I heard that too this morning. :wacko:

Also, why is "If I Could" by Phish being played during Daytime Hours during DE Flavors Only? :thinking:
By DE Flavors, do you mean the one minute LF flavor (I don't have them memorized yet)?
If so, TWC always seems to play primetime music at 2:59 and 3:59 (also 4:59 on the weekends) in the afternoon. I have no idea why, but I have noticed it after it has been mentioned. I have also heard "Night Wind" by Ryan Farish as well on the daytime period.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 27, 2009, 07:26:58 PM
Here is your flavor guide:

D- 1:00
E- 1:00
K- 1:30
L- 2:00
M- 2:00

So basically, yes. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 27, 2009, 08:11:37 PM
I'm starting to think the regional map has been completely discontinued on my intellistar.. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on April 27, 2009, 08:21:15 PM
I'm starting to think the regional map has been completely discontinued on my intellistar.. :hmm:
I have a feeling it can still draw it... your IntelliStar could possibly not have any room to show it though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 28, 2009, 11:08:38 AM
Wow, I am so confused! I just heard "Cuban Coffee" at 10:48 AM EDT and "Camouflage" at 10:58 AM EDT. BOTH sound off and like bizzarre remixes to me  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 28, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
I'm starting to think the regional map has been completely discontinued on my intellistar.. :hmm:
I have a feeling it can still draw it... your IntelliStar could possibly not have any room to show it though.
Oh it can draw it I'm sure, it just chooses not to. >.<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 28, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
Wow, that was one late LF! That last LF started just 5 seconds before 10:10!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 29, 2009, 04:00:48 PM
What the heck is this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlooqI8tu54# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlooqI8tu54#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 29, 2009, 04:17:32 PM
What the heck is this?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlooqI8tu54#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlooqI8tu54#[/url])


From the looks of your video, the audio and video during ICHT weren't in sync, so for whatever reason they played a piece of production music from the VideoHelper Library (it's been used before on EE and WC) during the LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 29, 2009, 04:37:13 PM
From the looks of your video, the audio and video during ICHT weren't in sync, so for whatever reason they played a piece of production music from the VideoHelper Library (it's been used before on EE and WC) during the LF.
Ah, okay. I had heard this at school and thought it was another one of those LF music act-ups.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on April 30, 2009, 06:26:45 PM
Does anyone know what screens were shown during the 1 minute flavor on the XL v1?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on April 30, 2009, 06:42:34 PM
Does anyone know what screens were shown during the 1 minute flavor on the XL v1?
DE (Original)    1:00    Current Conditions, Regional Conditions, Regional Forecast, Extended Forecast, Radar
DE (Modified)    1:00    Current Conditions, 36 Hour Forecast, The Week Ahead, Radar

^ from the Wikipedia article... I hope this helps somehow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 30, 2009, 09:13:35 PM
There was another version used roughly from 2002-03 that involved the Daypart and Regional/Metro maps. They were replaced by the 24-hour forecast in 2003.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 01, 2009, 11:19:24 AM
I know this is one VERY minuscule little thing, but I think the word "Weather" was changed when it displays as "Local Weather ID" during the LF in the LDL. Instead of being displayed as "Local Weather ID" it was changed to say "Local weather ID", so the w was lowercased. I do not know this for sure, but it looks that way to me.

Also, did the Falsepoint precip counter have to manually reset this morning? When I woke up, it actually said "May Precip: 7.6", and it now says "May Precip 0.0"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 01, 2009, 11:24:40 AM
uhhhh, that's been like that with the Local weather ID ever since it's been getting displayed on the LDL. :dunno:

And why do you call it "FalsePoint"? I see nothing wrong with it nor HiRAD. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 01, 2009, 12:25:34 PM
uhhhh, that's been like that with the Local weather ID ever since it's been getting displayed on the LDL. :dunno:

And why do you call it "FalsePoint"? I see nothing wrong with it nor HiRAD. :unsure:
You and I have A LOT of disagreements then. They both produce illegitament observations that are
1) Not accurate
2) Not proven (where the location is)
3) And nothing beats the real thing

I call it Falsepoint because the results are not accurate. They are simply computer guesses. The results for April rainfall are in:
Lansing Capital City Arpt: 6.49"
Downtown Lansing guess (5 miles from Airport): 7.6"
See anything wrong?

And I was being nitpicky about the W being changed to lower case.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 01, 2009, 09:03:14 PM
Since I'm not a local IS viewer, please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think there has ever been a capital "W" in "Local weather ID". :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 01, 2009, 09:34:23 PM
Since I'm not a local IS viewer, please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think there has ever been a capital "W" in "Local weather ID". :huh:
This morning I thought there was, but then again, I also thought a lot of the text on the IS was also enlarged, so false alarm  :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 02, 2009, 01:27:00 AM
Zach is right, the W was never captialized even in the old LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 02, 2009, 01:31:11 AM
Shame TWC doesn't team up with colleges, schools, and private business like weatherbug does for example. It would provide a lot more reporting locations. Granted they may not be reliable but the IS could easily switch to a backup when one of these were down.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 02, 2009, 02:07:09 AM
Shame TWC doesn't team up with colleges, schools, and private business like weatherbug does for example. It would provide a lot more reporting locations. Granted they may not be reliable but the IS could easily switch to a backup when one of these were down.
I've seen some of the WeatherBug stations, and many of them are dreadful in terms of accuracy and reliability.  If they were to be shown on the LF, I'd have someone pick out a handful for each region to check out their quality and deem them worthy of being reported.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on May 02, 2009, 02:28:14 AM
The ones on wunderground are pretty accurate. I like that site more.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 02, 2009, 02:40:22 AM
Shame TWC doesn't team up with colleges, schools, and private business like weatherbug does for example. It would provide a lot more reporting locations. Granted they may not be reliable but the IS could easily switch to a backup when one of these were down.
I've seen some of the WeatherBug stations, and many of them are dreadful in terms of accuracy and reliability.  If they were to be shown on the LF, I'd have someone pick out a handful for each region to check out their quality and deem them worthy of being reported.
You have a good point!

The ones on wunderground are pretty accurate. I like that site more.
Yes Wunderground has a great network of personal weather stations. Its the place I stream my station to

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 02, 2009, 12:02:06 PM
For those of you looking for 'Lost in the Garden' by Steve Glotzer ifrom Oct 08 overnight it's available as 'Sara's Garden' by Lynn Patrick.
http://cdbaby.com/cd/lynnpatrick3 (http://cdbaby.com/cd/lynnpatrick3)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 02, 2009, 12:07:00 PM
Yes Wunderground has a great network of personal weather stations. Its the place I stream my station to
They are okay, but a lot of them don't report sky conditions, so any sky condition you see on a personal weather station actually comes from the nearest airport. I've also came across a few that report inaccurate temperatures when the sun shines on them.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 03, 2009, 12:13:18 PM
I Think i just found all of Ursula's (http://www.lala.com/#search/Claudio%20Spiewak) twc tunes


please correct me if i'm wrong
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WIWeather on May 03, 2009, 04:11:34 PM
Would it be awesome if Trammell Starks was included in one of TWC's monthly playlists? Imagine that!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 03, 2009, 04:17:21 PM
Yes Wunderground has a great network of personal weather stations. Its the place I stream my station to
They are okay, but a lot of them don't report sky conditions, so any sky condition you see on a personal weather station actually comes from the nearest airport. I've also came across a few that report inaccurate temperatures when the sun shines on them.
Ha i wish I could report sky conditions.  Equipment cost a fortune though <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 03, 2009, 05:07:10 PM
Yes Wunderground has a great network of personal weather stations. Its the place I stream my station to
They are okay, but a lot of them don't report sky conditions, so any sky condition you see on a personal weather station actually comes from the nearest airport. I've also came across a few that report inaccurate temperatures when the sun shines on them.
Ha i wish I could report sky conditions.  Equipment cost a fortune though <_<
I would just report sky conditions myself manually just by looking at the sky.  Sometimes, the LF's sky conditions don't always match up with what you see out the window. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 03, 2009, 07:37:17 PM
Yes Wunderground has a great network of personal weather stations. Its the place I stream my station to
They are okay, but a lot of them don't report sky conditions, so any sky condition you see on a personal weather station actually comes from the nearest airport. I've also came across a few that report inaccurate temperatures when the sun shines on them.
Ha i wish I could report sky conditions.  Equipment cost a fortune though <_<
I would just report sky conditions myself manually just by looking at the sky.  Sometimes, the LF's sky conditions don't always match up with what you see out the window. :rolleyes:
Well, that seems a little far-fetched to always look at the sky and report it on a computer. For some reason, I can't even send in daily reports to CoCoRaHS anymore (I was the first person to register in the entire state of Michigan the morning it finally opened to Michigan residents in June of last year). That last sentence could open up a whole debate, IMO. HiRAD doesn't report correct sky CC to me, but that's just me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 04, 2009, 05:52:35 PM
OMG, "Local On The 1's"!  :bleh:
Late K Flavor LF at 5:51 PM EDT with "Journey To The Light" by Ryan Farish and the big 9 second pause!  :thrilled:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 06, 2009, 07:14:22 PM
Hi Jesse.  :wave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKglFRdBYVQ&feature=channel_page# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKglFRdBYVQ&feature=channel_page#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwQBaITF-uQ&feature=channel_page# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwQBaITF-uQ&feature=channel_page#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-RTLkfs8g&feature=channel_page# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-RTLkfs8g&feature=channel_page#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 06, 2009, 09:45:12 PM
Were these taken when you went to Voorhees?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 06, 2009, 09:52:25 PM
Were these taken when you went to Voorhees?
yeah
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 07, 2009, 12:55:53 AM
I understand I have been posting a lot as of late.

The LDL has been on non-stop for an hour, with the same tabs (should only display during nat'l broadcasts) rotating for that time. I wonder what is going on  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 07, 2009, 06:29:37 AM
Today marks two years since TWC tried out the failed "No Repeat Workday" concept, and the start of narration-free primetime playlists which lasted for nearly five months.

I still have clips during that night that were on my YT account, which were removed due to copyright infringement.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 07, 2009, 08:36:58 AM
Today marks two years since TWC tried out the failed "No Repeat Workday" concept, and the start of narration-free primetime playlists which lasted for nearly five months.

I still have clips during that night that were on my YT account, which were removed due to copyright infringement.
I was thinking about that, but I can't believe I actually forgot about that this morning!
I thought it was a refreshing change of pace, and I will never forget it. I sure wish I could have gotten some recordings!

Could you send me any clips you have from that night? I would greatly appreciate it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 07, 2009, 11:16:57 AM
Today marks two years since TWC tried out the failed "No Repeat Workday" concept, and the start of narration-free primetime playlists which lasted for nearly five months.

I still have clips during that night that were on my YT account, which were removed due to copyright infringement.

I wish they could do it again, but as you all know TWC does not care what we all think.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 07, 2009, 12:23:19 PM
Today marks two years since TWC tried out the failed "No Repeat Workday" concept, and the start of narration-free primetime playlists which lasted for nearly five months.

I still have clips during that night that were on my YT account, which were removed due to copyright infringement.

I wish they could do it again, but as you all know TWC does not care what we all think.
True that. If only they would.......
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 07, 2009, 03:29:03 PM
TWC must of gotten TONS of complaints if the concept only lasted for a day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 07, 2009, 04:24:07 PM
Today marks two years since TWC tried out the failed "No Repeat Workday" concept, and the start of narration-free primetime playlists which lasted for nearly five months.

I still have clips during that night that were on my YT account, which were removed due to copyright infringement.
Wow that felt like it happened yesterday. :blink: I wish they could do that to the IntelliStar again. :P I don't mind many vocal songs but it doesn't fit with TWC's image. Or maybe it does seeing how screwy TWC has been lately..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 07, 2009, 08:02:08 PM
I actually liked the vocal music on the LF. It was only during the evening playlist, which I didn't mind. I wouldn't want to hear it all day, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 07, 2009, 08:21:29 PM
I actually liked the vocal music on the LF. It was only during the evening playlist, which I didn't mind. I wouldn't want to hear it all day, though.
Yeah, I really liked it too. I thought it was a refreshing change of pace, and it was an awesome surprise!  :thrilled:  :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 07, 2009, 11:13:06 PM
Are they mixing in new music tonight? I didn't recognize the song that played a few mins. ago at 11:08pm.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 08, 2009, 05:18:54 AM
Wow, I just saw a new Vortex2 commercial. Only one more, and I update my big montage on youtube.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 09, 2009, 03:51:22 PM
IntelliStar LDL did not cue during Epic Conditions but did for a short time during this commercial break.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 09, 2009, 08:33:33 PM
According to Spring Rubber, the Local on the 8s logos seen on the National IntelliStars disappeared this morning. :(


Video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CldyRcZXBFI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CldyRcZXBFI#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 14, 2009, 04:49:29 PM
A new group is taking over TWC"s music and changing it in July according to a reliable source from TWC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 14, 2009, 04:54:46 PM
A new group is taking over TWC"s music and changing it in July according to a reliable source from TWC.
So the current playlist is lasting through June as well?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 14, 2009, 05:01:02 PM
A new group is taking over TWC"s music and changing it in July according to a reliable source from TWC.
So the current playlist is lasting through June as well?
No, there'll be a June playlist. July, is when there'll be other genres besides jazz playing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 14, 2009, 05:13:13 PM
Well, that's sort of like what's happening right now. We've got a few songs that aren't jazz, like the CC Gilmore and Thievery Corporation tracks.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 14, 2009, 05:21:57 PM
I think it's just a test. It seems they're going to make it permanent. I wish regular jazz was back, soundtrack and chill sounds awkward on TWC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 15, 2009, 03:11:50 PM
I think it's just a test. It seems they're going to make it permanent. I wish regular jazz was back, soundtrack and chill sounds awkward on TWC.
I actually like what TWC is doing with their playlists now. As long as there is at least some jazz on there like there is now, I'm happy. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 15, 2009, 03:50:40 PM
I think it's just a test. It seems they're going to make it permanent. I wish regular jazz was back, soundtrack and chill sounds awkward on TWC.
I actually like what TWC is doing with their playlists now. As long as there is at least some jazz on there like there is now, I'm happy. :yes:
I feel the exact same way. The same old music for years on end does getboring, and if they add genres in that appeal to other people, they may get some new viewers as well :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 15, 2009, 03:52:06 PM
As long as they keep jazz , then i'm fine ^_^
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 16, 2009, 06:14:48 PM
As long as they keep jazz , then i'm fine ^_^
I agree. Im not a fan of some of those songs they are messing around with
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 17, 2009, 02:02:24 AM
Got some news everyone its about the Intellistar!

i got in contact with someone from The Weather Channel about the Narration (i know its not going anywhere) but here's what Lee Pettit, Manager of the Fall River account of The Weather Channel.

Quote
We are planning some product enhancements (software upgrade) to the IStar this summer and in fact, are already talking about developing the next generation of Star.  Hopefully one of these two initiatives will fix the problems you are having.
 
- Lee
Nope no big changes are going to happen to the IS. Straight from the horses mouth too...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on May 17, 2009, 07:32:38 AM
Got some news everyone its about the Intellistar!

i got in contact with someone from The Weather Channel about the Narration (i know its not going anywhere) but here's what Lee Pettit, Manager of the Fall River account of The Weather Channel.

Quote
We are planning some product enhancements (software upgrade) to the IStar this summer and in fact, are already talking about developing the next generation of Star.  Hopefully one of these two initiatives will fix the problems you are having.
 
- Lee
Nope no big changes are going to happen to the IS. Straight from the horses mouth too...
Based off their past patterns, a design change to the STAR is imminent sometime this year. Don't hold me to that though. I follow patterns, lol.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 17, 2009, 07:47:48 AM
Nope no big changes are going to happen to the IS. Straight from the horses mouth too...
Based off their past patterns, a design change to the STAR is imminent sometime this year. Don't hold me to that though. I follow patterns, lol.
Outside of the sound effects being disabled back in March, no major modifications have been made since the LDL was modified on September 3rd last year, or since the blue LDL replaced the black one in 2008 (depends on what your opinion of "major" is). To me, it is unusual to have this long of a period when nothing is modified on the Intellistar.......  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 17, 2009, 01:01:43 PM
Based off their past patterns, a design change to the STAR is imminent sometime this year. Don't hold me to that though. I follow patterns, lol.
Don't count on it. All focus is on the HD STAR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 17, 2009, 01:31:54 PM
TWC might soon make a standard version of the HD Star. After all, another STAR may be due soon, since the XL was the newest STAR for only 5-6 years, and how technology had changed fast since work on the IntelliStar began in 2003.
...or since the blue LDL replaced the black one in 2003....
You mean 2008, right? ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 17, 2009, 01:38:01 PM
Based off their past patterns, a design change to the STAR is imminent sometime this year. Don't hold me to that though. I follow patterns, lol.
Don't count on it. All focus is on the HD STAR.
you REALLY should take his word on it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 17, 2009, 01:47:54 PM
TWC might soon make a standard version of the HD Star.
...no.  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 17, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
TWC might soon make a standard version of the HD Star. After all, another STAR may be due soon, since the XL was the newest STAR for only 5-6 years, and how technology had changed fast since work on the IntelliStar began in 2003.
...or since the blue LDL replaced the black one in 2008....
You mean 2008, right? ;)
Yes, that was an error on my part. I guess I said 2003 since I had just read that wikipedia article on Weatherstar XL and had the idea of 2003 implanted in my head. That was when the black bar originally came about.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on May 17, 2009, 06:14:28 PM
Based off their past patterns, a design change to the STAR is imminent sometime this year. Don't hold me to that though. I follow patterns, lol.
Don't count on it. All focus is on the HD STAR.
I'm willing to put money on the table that says that some sort of design change will happen between now and March of 2010.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 17, 2009, 07:08:12 PM
Based off their past patterns, a design change to the STAR is imminent sometime this year. Don't hold me to that though. I follow patterns, lol.
Don't count on it. All focus is on the HD STAR.
I'm willing to put money on the table that says that some sort of design change will happen between now and March of 2010.
Yeah, I would too. It has been a while since a major update has taken place, which is highly unusual to me  :blink: :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 06:34:35 AM
Is anyone's IntelliStar/Weatherscan not reporting airport delays right now?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on May 18, 2009, 06:46:56 AM
Is anyone's IntelliStar/Weatherscan not reporting airport delays right now?
My IntelliStar is reporting airport delays properly by saying Philadelphia Int'l is reporting no delays.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 07:56:44 AM
Is anyone's IntelliStar/Weatherscan not reporting airport delays right now?
My IntelliStar is reporting airport delays properly by saying Philadelphia Int'l is reporting no delays.
Yeah, mine is working the same way as well, Jesse. I wonder why though, that it never does report delays, as I have seen delays according to Lansing's Capital City Arpt website before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: hen7713 on May 18, 2009, 05:23:32 PM
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/henry7713/IMG_2080.jpg)
That's part off the glitches
the IS background during the LF is missing, also.
I'll upload those images later.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 05:29:31 PM
Yeah, mine is working the same way as well, Jesse. I wonder why though, that it never does report delays, as I have seen delays according to Lansing's Capital City Arpt website before.
I have the same problem with Atlantic City and Lehigh Valley Airport, as these airports are used in the Weatherscans here. My guess is they don't report them publicly to the FAA or something.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 18, 2009, 06:24:34 PM
Hmm my local radar showed snow for a second. Kinda funny
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 18, 2009, 06:27:52 PM
thats all they should do is discontinue the narration on the 36/48hr

and maybe this chaos would stop
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 18, 2009, 07:04:59 PM
Hmm my local radar showed snow for a second. Kinda funny

I been getting the snow and mix indicators on my radar again, I guess 60's qualify for snow in May now.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 18, 2009, 10:00:27 PM
Hmm my local radar showed snow for a second. Kinda funny

I been getting the snow and mix indicators on my radar again, I guess 60's qualify for snow in May now.  :P
Yep, same here. I noticed them on as of the 3:59 PM EDT LF. It seems to me like they have been permanently turned on again :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2009, 10:13:15 PM
I saw snow mistakenly being shown on one of the radar frames earlier which caused the indicators to show.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 19, 2009, 03:38:03 PM
([url]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/henry7713/IMG_2080.jpg[/url])
That's part off the glitches
the IS background during the LF is missing, also.
I'll upload those images later.

What's your STAR ID#?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: hen7713 on May 19, 2009, 06:02:29 PM
Quoted Image Removed
That's part off the glitches
the IS background during the LF is missing, also.
I'll upload those images later.
What's your STAR ID#?
24688
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 19, 2009, 06:35:28 PM
Is anyone's IntelliStar/Weatherscan not reporting airport delays right now?
I wouldn't know, even though, IS does show airport and so does weatherscan's upper crawl, i don't pay att'n :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 19, 2009, 08:37:08 PM
Here's an High Quality pic of the Istar background

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3567/ibackstar2.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ibackstar2.jpg)

 (http://g.imageshack.us/img132/ibackstar2.jpg/1/)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on May 19, 2009, 08:56:40 PM
Here's an High Quality pic of the Istar background
if you want the IntelliStar backgrounds, all you had to do was ask :P

(http://f.imagehost.org/0460/domestic.png)
(http://f.imagehost.org/0159/domesticBulletin.png)
(http://f.imagehost.org/0829/domesticMarine.png)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 21, 2009, 08:32:52 PM
I seem to be noticing that there are some discrepancies between the Lansing and E.L. Intellistar units. Namely, the music sounds remixed and different as compared to the Lansing headend.

Here is a video to exemplify this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tet-qmVJCaQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tet-qmVJCaQ#)

I honestly don't understand this, as to why the music sound different on the E.L. headend as opposed to the Lansing headend. I have no idea why, but this is driving me crazy.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tuez13 on May 21, 2009, 10:07:30 PM
I've been noticing that the LF has been a little different recently, too.  My IS sometimes skips the detailed current conditions (first slide) and goes straight to the regional temp map, which never used to happen.  It also occasionally skips the 'currently in our area...bla bla bla' on the first slide.  I have noticed this happening in the past week and a half during Weather Center and other live programming like that, during the normal LOT8s versus the shortened version after programs like When Weather Changed History, etc.  It seems as though TWC is attempting to switch up the LF somehow but has failed...much like the design aspect for the current LF (backgrounds/transitions/etc).  I'd be happy with the detailed currents, regional temps, radar, daypart forecast graphic and 7-day.  Just my 5 cents...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 21, 2009, 10:11:18 PM
I've been noticing that the LF has been a little different recently, too.  My IS sometimes skips the detailed current conditions (first slide) and goes straight to the regional temp map, which never used to happen.  It also occasionally skips the 'currently in our area...bla bla bla' on the first slide.  I have noticed this happening in the past week and a half during Weather Center and other live programming like that, during the normal LOT8s versus the shortened version after programs like When Weather Changed History, etc.  It seems as though TWC is attempting to switch up the LF somehow but has failed...much like the design aspect for the current LF (backgrounds/transitions/etc).  I'd be happy with the detailed currents, regional temps, radar, daypart forecast graphic and 7-day.  Just my 5 cents...

Your right, as of last Friday, they have been experimenting with new flavors most of which don't include the Current Conditions screen anymore.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 23, 2009, 01:23:25 AM
So, does HiRAD work for sites in other countries? Ever since Hamilton, Ontario was put on my metro map and now E.L.'s, there never has been a sky CC, but simply a temperature. Sometimes, there is no observation at all. This still happens, even during the HiRAD days.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 23, 2009, 11:04:17 AM
AFAIK, HiRAD only works in the lower 48, so it's probably a reporting station that's on there. It's quite possible the reporting station is simply not reporting sky conditions. There are some around here that are like this, such as Andover, NJ and the inner harber in Baltimore.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 24, 2009, 10:43:11 AM
Does anyone know if the IntelliStar still has its "significant weather mode," when the radar is shown more and other products (air quality, traffic products, etc) are shown less? I haven't seen this here since April 2007, and we've had plenty of winter storms and severe weather events since. Has this feature been discontinued?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 24, 2009, 01:35:25 PM
It was never a feature, but rather just a temporary playlist created and manually sent out to certain STARs by the STAR Team.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: curtjr4 on May 24, 2009, 02:55:11 PM
So, does HiRAD work for sites in other countries? Ever since Hamilton, Ontario was put on my metro map and now E.L.'s, there never has been a sky CC, but simply a temperature. Sometimes, there is no observation at all. This still happens, even during the HiRAD days.
For Hamilton, Ontario I have only seen the sky condition once durring a cc segment... but that was about 8 months ago...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 24, 2009, 07:57:56 PM
Since when was the warning tone only four beeps? I just noticed this here tonight.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 24, 2009, 08:06:28 PM
Since when was the warning tone only four beeps? I just noticed this here tonight.

It's been like that for a while, I recorded some LF with the warning tone back in February and I think that's the last time I ever heard it sound off 7 beeps.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 24, 2009, 09:33:43 PM
More cowbell beeping :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 24, 2009, 10:18:14 PM
Does anyone know if the IntelliStar still has its "significant weather mode," when the radar is shown more and other products (air quality, traffic products, etc) are shown less? I haven't seen this here since April 2007, and we've had plenty of winter storms and severe weather events since. Has this feature been discontinued?
I am not sure there is any mode for it, but you can see this in my "June 7th Flash Flooding" Video. I am guessing that in times of severe weather, the radar would need more time to loop, and there would be less time for other products.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on May 25, 2009, 07:28:39 PM
This morning there was a malfunction with the local on the 8s bug. It showed the old one instead of the new one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 25, 2009, 07:47:59 PM
Did it happen at 4:58 AM ET or at some other time?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on May 25, 2009, 08:13:09 PM
It happened between 8:00 AM and 10:00 AM Today
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 27, 2009, 10:11:37 PM
Has anyone been able to find "Both Sides" by Roger Smith?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 27, 2009, 10:12:47 PM
Has anyone been able to find "Both Sides" by Roger Smith?
yes
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 02, 2009, 05:42:38 PM
Well, TWC has been having sporadic audio issues today. I notice the audio was out from 6:59 AM EDT to approximately 8:50 AM EDT this morning, and the 5:18 PM EDT LF had music 45 seconds in, until that LF became silent. Oddly, a 5 or so second clip from a Petsmart commercial played during that LF. The music was fine for the 5:28 PM EDT LF, but the 5:38 LF was silent, completely.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 03, 2009, 06:47:42 AM
Apparently, the LF only allows enough time for two forecast periods on the text based, no matter what flavor.......  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on June 08, 2009, 09:59:50 PM
My DirecTV receiver just cued a Local Forecast during identification...

[2009-06-08T21:08-0500] Update: It happened again during LOT8s open!

[2009-06-09T02:10-0500] Update: My DirecTV receiver just went through an entire LF without cuing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 15, 2009, 08:47:06 AM
Think something's wrong with the HD LF right now? :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on June 15, 2009, 03:27:32 PM
Does anyone know the old XL v.2 1 minute flavor lineup? I swore it included the regional forecast and the daypart forecast, but I'm not too sure. And I haven't had any luck finding a video of it..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 15, 2009, 03:36:20 PM
I swore it included the regional forecast and the daypart forecast, but I'm not too sure. And I haven't had any luck finding a video of it..
Pretty sure it did at one point, most likely from 2002-2003. This lineup is shown in one of the old release notes for the XL. But, the first lineup for XL v.2 was CC>Regional Conditions>Regional Forecast>EF>Radar, which I assumed lasted from the version 2 launch until the daypart was introduced in the spring of 2002.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on June 15, 2009, 03:48:20 PM
I swore it included the regional forecast and the daypart forecast, but I'm not too sure. And I haven't had any luck finding a video of it..
Pretty sure it did at one point, most likely from 2002-2003. This lineup is shown in one of the old release notes for the XL. But, the first lineup for XL v.2 was CC>Regional Conditions>Regional Forecast>EF>Radar, which I assumed lasted from the version 2 launch until the daypart was introduced in the spring of 2002.
Oh yes, that was the one. I don't know why I thought the daypart forecast was included. Thanks!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 17, 2009, 10:23:32 AM
Anyone notice anything wrong here?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 17, 2009, 02:12:39 PM
I just uploaded several August 2008 playlist clips I forgot about to YouTube. If there's demand I'll add more.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 17, 2009, 02:34:35 PM
Well, big news today. I turned on TWC 45 minutes ago and I notced a few configuration changes. Charlotte, just SW of Lansing, was added on the Local Radar Screen. The almanac title was also changed to Lansing (instead of "Lansing Capital City Airport"), and the airport name under the airporttab on the LDL was changed from "Lansing Capital City Arpt" to "Capital Reg. Int'l Airport". Also, Grand Ledge, and Eaton Rapids, all outlying communities of Lansing and all in the same county as Charlotte, were added as additional current conditions sites under the "now" tab and also under te forecast tab. I am thinking that several units around the area were consolidated today. I called the STAR team with the number I was given, and I of course had to leave a voicemail. I will leave a notification on TWC Classics. What's worse, I come home this morning from the E.L. headend, and everything was as it previously was. I was not recording during the change :-(
I am noticing that looping info is also gone on the Local Forecast, and that there is absolutely no information on the station ID. Now, is this happening nationally? Is this just a new thing TWC is trying out, or could it actually be consolidation of Lansing area headends?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 17, 2009, 03:17:57 PM
Well, big news today. I turned on TWC 45 minutes ago and I notced a few configuration changes. Charlotte, just SW of Lansing, was added on the Local Radar Screen. The almanac title was also changed to Lansing (instead of "Lansing Capital City Airport"), and the airport name under the airporttab on the LDL was changed from "Lansing Capital City Arpt" to "Capital Reg. Int'l Airport". Also, Grand Ledge, and Eaton Rapids, all outlying communities of Lansing and all in the same county as Charlotte, were added as additional current conditions sites under the "now" tab and also under te forecast tab. I am thinking that several units around the area were consolidated today. I called the STAR team with the number I was given, and I of course had to leave a voicemail. I will leave a notification on TWC Classics. What's worse, I come home this morning from the E.L. headend, and everything was as it previously was. I was not recording during the change :-(
I am noticing that looping info is also gone on the Local Forecast, and that there is absolutely no information on the station ID. Now, is this happening nationally? Is this just a new thing TWC is trying out, or could it actually be consolidation of Lansing area headends?

I haven't paid attention to any changes on my STAR, but I have seen blank station IDs today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 17, 2009, 05:25:35 PM
I have seen blank station IDs today.
I thought my IntelliSTAR was broken. :blink: :wacko:

Thanks for clarifying Tavores. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 17, 2009, 05:31:57 PM
Well, I will upload a video momentarily of how it looks here in Lansing. My theory is that several units around the area consolidated into one- mine. I am going to my dad's place over there in Haslett to see if this is indeed the case.

Edit: I checked over my clip from this afternoon again. I see the looping information on the sat/rad product was gone for the 4:08 PM EDT LF but back for the 4:28 PM EDT LF. Thus, this big change (whatever it may be; I am not sure what has happened yet) most likely happened between 11 AM EDT and 11:30 AM EDT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on June 17, 2009, 05:59:16 PM
No blank station IDs, map changes, etc. My almanac does show No Report for the Yesterday Actual field.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 17, 2009, 06:08:26 PM
When did the station IDs disappear?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 17, 2009, 06:09:09 PM
Well, I will upload a video momentarily of how it looks here in Lansing. My theory is that several units around the area consolidated into one- mine. I am going to my dad's place over there in Haslett to see if this is indeed the case.
Most of the time, when you mention your Star to the Star Team about requests, they make other tweaks to the system too. It doesn't necessarily mean there was a headend expansion.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 17, 2009, 06:42:39 PM
Well, I will upload a video momentarily of how it looks here in Lansing. My theory is that several units around the area consolidated into one- mine. I am going to my dad's place over there in Haslett to see if this is indeed the case.
Most of the time, when you mention your Star to the Star Team about requests, they make other tweaks to the system too. It doesn't necessarily mean there was a headend expansion.
I just talked to my dad about it, and he said that there was a seperate ad crawl and the Local weather ID shown was 22842. I would like the almanac to say more than just "Lansing", but I have a feeling though that the STAR team will not respond to my postings on TWC Classics  <_<

When did the station IDs disappear?
They had been gone all day, on both the E.L. and Lansing units. I noticed that the station ID returned as of 4:57 PM EDT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 17, 2009, 06:44:18 PM
FYI, I think Almanacs are based from the closest metropolitan city. Billy's almanac comes out of Harrisburg. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 17, 2009, 07:18:13 PM
Here's a video of that blank station ID, today was my first time actually seeing on TV in person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moVZPhTf51k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moVZPhTf51k)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 17, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
FYI, I think Almanacs are based from the closest metropolitan city. Billy's almanac comes out of Harrisburg. :thumbsup:
Nope. As of a while back, they changed it to York Airport.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 17, 2009, 08:40:56 PM
FYI, I think Almanacs are based from the closest metropolitan city. Billy's almanac comes out of Harrisburg. :thumbsup:
Nope. As of a while back, they changed it to York Airport.

 :doh: :wall: I need to pay more attention to your videos then.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on June 17, 2009, 10:03:59 PM
Anyone know the name of this song? I think I took it off of someone's video, but I can't find it now. It's from February 2008 overnight.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 17, 2009, 10:25:12 PM
Anyone know the name of this song? I think I took it off of someone's video, but I can't find it now. It's from February 2008 overnight.
That's "The Joy of Being" by Joseph Akins. I couldn't find that song earlier because TWC mistakenly labeled the artist as "Joseph Atkins" instead. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 18, 2009, 12:26:40 AM
Well here we go, here is how it all looked before the change:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35g4Dz47sFk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35g4Dz47sFk#)

And now after the change:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH4zc1yxpiI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH4zc1yxpiI#)
About 14 months after Capital City Airport's name was changed to Capital Region International Airport, it finally updates on the Intellistar here.

Here are the primary changes included:
-The listing formerly labeled "Capital City Arpt" on the 8 city guesses segment now says "Capital Region Int'l", but it takes too much room as the l in "Int'l" is hidden underneath the temperature. It should be changed to take up two lines, IMO.
-Charlotte was added southwest of Lansing on the "Local Radar" segment.
-The almanac title was changed from "Lansing Capital City Arpt" to just "Lansing"


Here is another video which includes a full LDL cycle on Weather Center:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo_SZ2E-kRg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo_SZ2E-kRg#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 18, 2009, 05:57:09 AM
Interesting changes  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on June 18, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
WTF Happened with the audio at 4:01 PM EDT?!?! :blink:

Edit: It just did it again between 5:00 and 5:03 PM EDT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 18, 2009, 04:11:02 PM
WTF Happened with the audio at 4:01 PM EDT?!?! :blink:
That has nothing to do with the LF. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on June 18, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
Oops. :pinch:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 18, 2009, 04:20:37 PM
WTF Happened with the audio at 4:01 PM EDT?!?! :blink:
Hmm, I guess the PM Edition Intro didn't play correctly  :wacko:
I can upload a clip if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 18, 2009, 04:54:56 PM
More updates today! I will post videos as soon as I publish and upload them.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 18, 2009, 06:04:22 PM
Sorry for the double post, but here is the first video, with a freeway update to all maps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jURJgJA45-o# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jURJgJA45-o#)

And here is the update to the listing of my area's airport on my 8 city guesses segment, and also the metro map shift as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JogF-jHko4c# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JogF-jHko4c#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 19, 2009, 04:22:21 PM
During the time that the station IDs were blank, the moon almanac was removed from my STAR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 19, 2009, 09:54:33 PM
Finally tuned the colors to help my I-Star look perfect (it might look like a mirage but it looks like the sun is moving on the top right and the sun could somewhat be seen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8rGXAHMyTQ&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8rGXAHMyTQ&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 20, 2009, 08:49:04 PM
Hey Guys breaking news

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1007/traffic2.jpg) (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/traffic2.jpg/)

And here is the video of it enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5M3htnPezM&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5M3htnPezM&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 20, 2009, 08:51:16 PM
Hey Guys breaking news

([url]http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1007/traffic2.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img197.imageshack.us/i/traffic2.jpg/[/url])

And here is the video of it enjoy!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5M3htnPezM&fmt=18#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5M3htnPezM&fmt=18#[/url])

What about it? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 20, 2009, 08:57:31 PM
Hey Guys breaking news

([url]http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1007/traffic2.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img197.imageshack.us/i/traffic2.jpg/[/url])

And here is the video of it enjoy!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5M3htnPezM&fmt=18#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5M3htnPezM&fmt=18#[/url])

What about it? :unsure:


Maybe the serious injuries and other stuff being reported on that Traffic report. :rolleyes:. That's interesting though, I don't see traffic reports that long that often, and I have never seen it report "Serious injuries".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 21, 2009, 01:18:03 AM
Wow, I never seen a traffic report that explained injuries! And we've had plenty of those kinds of accidents here for sure. Usually when there's accidents involving injuries and especially deaths it would say something along the lines of "closed for investigations."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 21, 2009, 01:34:01 AM
I saw a report here once last year that explained deaths on Rt-28. That's the only one I can recall though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 22, 2009, 12:02:07 AM
That was weird; just now they showed a Local Forecast sponsor graphic prior to the forecast saying that the LF was sponsored by Foster Grant, but the Canon logo ended up displaying during the LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 22, 2009, 12:10:24 AM
I saw a report here once last year that explained deaths on Rt-28. That's the only one I can recall though.
I think ive seen a couple like that too
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 22, 2009, 12:13:50 AM
That was weird; just now they showed a Local Forecast sponsor graphic prior to the forecast saying that the LF was sponsored by Foster Grant, but the Canon logo ended up displaying during the LF.
Wow, looking over my clip of it, I see that. Odd  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 22, 2009, 12:41:01 AM
Odd, I see TWC is still showing the First Day Of Summer Intro and the Stay Tuned sponsor segments, even the day after. Are they waiting until the First Day is "technically" over at 1:46 AM EDT?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 22, 2009, 12:46:52 AM
Odd, I see TWC is still showing the First Day Of Summer Intro and the Stay Tuned sponsor segments, even the day after. Are they waiting until the First Day is "technically" over at 1:46 AM EDT?
For those on the west coast it's still not over. ;)

Plus, TWC's broadcasting day begins/ends at 4am et.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 22, 2009, 01:09:22 AM
Odd, I see TWC is still showing the First Day Of Summer Intro and the Stay Tuned sponsor segments, even the day after. Are they waiting until the First Day is "technically" over at 1:46 AM EDT?
For those on the west coast it's still not over. ;)

Plus, TWC's broadcasting day begins/ends at 4am et.
Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 22, 2009, 02:19:16 AM
Plus, TWC's broadcasting day begins/ends at 4am et.
Although, the commercials/sponsors don't switch over until 5 AM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 22, 2009, 08:45:43 AM
my twc feed just got knocked out since the local radar at 8:38am edt has this happened to anyone else?

Only the audio is working and Local ad inserts are working

Main TWC video feed is down on my star + local forecast
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 22, 2009, 08:57:43 AM
my twc feed just got knocked out since the local radar at 8:38am edt has this happened to anyone else?

Only the audio is working and Local ad inserts are working

Main TWC video feed is down on my star + local forecast
This exact same problem happened with the E.L. STAR back on Memorial Day. It may take a couple of days for video feed to get restored, so be sure to notify the STAR team about it. The Intellistar here in Lansing is working properly.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 22, 2009, 09:08:19 AM
my twc feed just got knocked out since the local radar at 8:38am edt has this happened to anyone else?

Only the audio is working and Local ad inserts are working

Main TWC video feed is down on my star + local forecast
This exact same problem happened with the E.L. STAR back on Memorial Day. It may take a couple of days for video feed to get restored, so be sure to notify the STAR team about it. The Intellistar here in Lansing is working properly.

Mine is working fine too, I was recording a segment then that I missed an hour before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 22, 2009, 10:34:42 AM
just a big blank screen with no ldl and no video, Aaron did it take 3 days to come back on the E.L Star?

If so it's bad timing and i guess no LOT'48's for me :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 22, 2009, 12:11:09 PM
here's the video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6m9EiSq504&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6m9EiSq504&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 22, 2009, 12:55:55 PM
just a big blank screen with no ldl and no video, Aaron did it take 3 days to come back on the E.L Star?

If so it's bad timing and i guess no LOT'48's for me :(
I believe it took somewhere between 36 and 48 hours, but I am not 100% positive. I noticed the video feed went out right in the middle of the 3:29 PM EDT LF on 5/23, right as the metro map switched from the "today's forecast" product to the "tonight's forecast" product. I know it was out for 24 hours, but I went over to the thumb on the 24th, and then up to Houghton Lake that same evening. I came back on Memorial Day and the 1:38 PM EDT LF was fine.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 22, 2009, 05:43:39 PM
Well, I notice the forecast title here in the E.L. was changed. They took the "Area" part of the name off, so instead of "East Lansing Area" it just says "East Lansing". Odd, and I just now noticed it as of the last LF.  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 22, 2009, 06:48:49 PM
the problem was fixed 3hrs later  :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 22, 2009, 07:48:38 PM
Now I'm having that problem. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 22, 2009, 08:31:30 PM
Wow, the 8:29 PM EDT LF just ran over Storm Stories!  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 22, 2009, 08:39:44 PM
Wow, the 8:29 PM EDT LF just ran over Storm Stories!  :blink:
Master control aborted the local forecast. The 8:00 pm episode of Storm Stories ran late (until 8:30), then the LF started, and master cut it off after about 15 seconds and started the 8:30 episode of Storm Stories. Since the STARs had already cued, they remained running over the beginning of the 8:30 episode.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 22, 2009, 08:42:20 PM
Anyone know if the video feed problem is on TWC's end or my cable provider Comcast? I can't check any of the other channels because unfortunately my cable remote is broken of all days...... <_<

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlbXmNWudo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlbXmNWudo#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 23, 2009, 01:26:55 AM
Anyone know if the video feed problem is on TWC's end or my cable provider Comcast? I can't check any of the other channels because unfortunately my cable remote is broken of all days...... <_<

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlbXmNWudo#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlbXmNWudo#[/url])

Video removed?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 23, 2009, 06:27:51 AM
Anyone know if the video feed problem is on TWC's end or my cable provider Comcast? I can't check any of the other channels because unfortunately my cable remote is broken of all days...... <_<

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlbXmNWudo#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlbXmNWudo#[/url])

Tavores, it is for sure your specific Comcast headend. Like I said in a previous post in this thread, it happened to the E.L. headend back in late May. This is bound to happen to every headend across the country at some point, we just don't know how many headends it happens to and how frequently because there are only a limited amount of us who would even know what is going on. I would suggest reporting it to the STAR team at TWC Classics. That method seems to have worked for Alejandro.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 23, 2009, 06:28:45 AM
Video removed?
He probably removed it because someone rated it a one star.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 23, 2009, 07:44:57 AM
Video removed?
He probably removed it because someone rated it a one star.

No, I removed it because I figured out what the problem is, there's a cable outage here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 23, 2009, 09:06:48 AM
Does 7and5 have a CD out? I just got this email from Melissa Medori:
Quote
Hi Aaron,
 
The July playlist is not yet finalized, but feel free to check back in a few days.  To submit music, you are welcome to send a song, in compact disc format, to Local Forecast Music, The Weather Channel, 300 Interstate N. Pkwy, SE, Atlanta, GA 30339.
and I would like to send a CD down there ASAP.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on June 23, 2009, 02:02:42 PM
My DirecTV receiver just cued an LM flavour Local Forecast at the beginning of Storm Stories after the 12:58 CDT LF... o_O
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 23, 2009, 02:09:51 PM
Tavores, it is for sure your specific Comcast headend. Like I said in a previous post in this thread, it happened to the E.L. headend back in late May. This is bound to happen to every headend across the country at some point, we just don't know how many headends it happens to and how frequently because there are only a limited amount of us who would even know what is going on. I would suggest reporting it to the STAR team at TWC Classics. That method seems to have worked for Alejandro.
I had a similar problem back in January where my feed was black, but I was still getting the local ad insets. The feed then returned later that day, but for a month after that my headend, located in Cherry Hill, was pulling a feed from the Willingboro headend, and therefore received their Burlington-based IntelliStar. The problem was finally fixed on February 4 after contacting Comcast many times about it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 23, 2009, 04:14:33 PM
Tavores, it is for sure your specific Comcast headend. Like I said in a previous post in this thread, it happened to the E.L. headend back in late May. This is bound to happen to every headend across the country at some point, we just don't know how many headends it happens to and how frequently because there are only a limited amount of us who would even know what is going on. I would suggest reporting it to the STAR team at TWC Classics. That method seems to have worked for Alejandro.
I had a similar problem back in January where my feed was black, but I was still getting the local ad insets. The feed then returned later that day, but for a month after that my headend, located in Cherry Hill, was pulling a feed from the Willingboro headend, and therefore received their Burlington-based IntelliStar. The problem was finally fixed on February 4 after contacting Comcast many times about it.
Bet that was a real pain to explain to the comcast support!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 24, 2009, 06:23:25 AM
They fixed the cable problem.  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 24, 2009, 08:09:58 AM
I think the music randomizer is broken...the same guitar song that repeats over and over has repeated over and over and over again for like the last hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on June 24, 2009, 09:30:08 AM
I think the music randomizer is broken...the same guitar song that repeats over and over has repeated over and over and over again for like the last hour.
I thought that was the case a couple days ago as well, so it's not just me that thinks the LF music randomization has been nonrandom lately. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 24, 2009, 03:54:15 PM
Hmmm, TWC or the national IS doesn't seem to know what logo to cue at times, so it seems to cue the old one. :thinking:

(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab313/TWCZach/General%20TWC%20Pics/2009-06-24_150047.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 24, 2009, 07:11:24 PM
Wish they would just play the darn songs in order or make it so they each get played equally.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 24, 2009, 07:33:49 PM
Wish they would just play the darn songs in order or make it so they each get played equally.

Yeah, I haven't heard "Colortones" by Ryan Farish, "Advanced Funk" by Maceo Parker, or "Distance to the Sun" by Gooding in a long time.  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on June 25, 2009, 10:42:24 AM
Wish they would just play the darn songs in order or make it so they each get played equally.
Yeah, I haven't heard "Colortones" by Ryan Farish, "Advanced Funk" by Maceo Parker, or "Distance to the Sun" by Gooding in a long time.  :no:
During the older days of TWC, the songs were played in order within their respective time slots.  I'm not sure why that has been changed. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 25, 2009, 02:51:20 PM
Yeah, I haven't heard "Colortones" by Ryan Farish, "Advanced Funk" by Maceo Parker, or "Distance to the Sun" by Gooding in a long time.  :no:
I heard Colortones earlier this morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 25, 2009, 02:55:25 PM
Yeah, I haven't heard "Colortones" by Ryan Farish, "Advanced Funk" by Maceo Parker, or "Distance to the Sun" by Gooding in a long time.  :no:
I heard Colortones earlier this morning.
That seems to be the song of the day getting overused. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 25, 2009, 02:56:26 PM
Yeah, I haven't heard "Colortones" by Ryan Farish, "Advanced Funk" by Maceo Parker, or "Distance to the Sun" by Gooding in a long time.  :no:
I heard Colortones earlier this morning.
That seems to be the song of the day getting overused. :yes:
I agree, I have heard it a lot today.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 25, 2009, 03:25:37 PM
Wish they would just play the darn songs in order or make it so they each get played equally.
Exactly. The current method gives me a headache when I try to record all the songs from the playlist at the beginning of the month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 25, 2009, 03:32:16 PM
I wish this playlist would end already. It's getting on my nerves hearing the same particular songs hour after hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 25, 2009, 03:34:33 PM
I wish this playlist would end already. It's getting on my nerves hearing the same particular songs hour after hour.
I pray for more jazz music next month!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 25, 2009, 03:35:41 PM
I wish this playlist would end already. It's getting on my nerves hearing the same particular songs hour after hour.
I pray for more jazz music next month!
Well Chris Geith will be on. Scott ward told me he sent a CD in late May so some Scott Ward might air in July. I wish there was some Steve Glotzer and more Jeanne.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 25, 2009, 03:37:01 PM
I wish this playlist would end already. It's getting on my nerves hearing the same particular songs hour after hour.
I pray for more jazz music next month!
Agreed.  :thumbsup: :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 25, 2009, 03:41:37 PM
Someone needs to send a PM to 7and5 on myspace (since I don't feel lyke dueing it because I am new to the site) so they will send a CD to TWC :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on June 25, 2009, 11:27:24 PM
I wish this playlist would end already. It's getting on my nerves hearing the same particular songs hour after hour.
I pray for more jazz music next month!
Agreed.  :thumbsup: :yes:
I'm hoping that the July playlist is better than this month's as well. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 25, 2009, 11:28:13 PM
I wish this playlist would end already. It's getting on my nerves hearing the same particular songs hour after hour.
I pray for more jazz music next month!
Agreed.  :thumbsup: :yes:
I'm hoping that the July playlist is better than this month's as well. :yes:
Hope they keep it fairly "normal"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 25, 2009, 11:31:44 PM
So do I. More jazz, less other genres please.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 25, 2009, 11:34:14 PM
We'll know what the final jury is on next month's playlist in just a week from now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on June 26, 2009, 06:18:05 AM
I wish this playlist would end already. It's getting on my nerves hearing the same particular songs hour after hour.
I pray for more jazz music next month!
I pray for less jazz music next month! I'm sorry, I like the rock.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 26, 2009, 11:00:10 AM
i would like there to be a mix next month (just leave the overnight alone and keep it jazz)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 26, 2009, 11:18:30 AM
I liked the variety they used last month, a playlist like that would be good for next month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 26, 2009, 11:34:45 AM
I liked the variety they used last month, a playlist like that would be good for next month.
So long as they include Breathe In and other music by 7and5, I don't care what else is on the playlist  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 26, 2009, 11:35:56 AM
ryan farish isn't jazz so obvoiusly TWC had played other styles besides jazz in the past.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 26, 2009, 01:20:53 PM
i wish this was a new flavor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMWjzNzzD8g&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMWjzNzzD8g&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 26, 2009, 01:32:31 PM
It makes no sense to me to start a LF with forecast products, then get into current products.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 26, 2009, 01:34:07 PM
that's just you, anyone could want it.

Any opinions?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 26, 2009, 01:39:59 PM
I'm not for it. :no:

I'm actually one of the people who would go like this:

Radar>CC>Local Obs>Other Stuff Here>Forecast>Extended>Traffic
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 26, 2009, 02:06:33 PM
I'm not for it. :no:

I'm actually one of the people who would go like this:

Radar>CC>Local Obs>Other Stuff Here>Forecast>Extended>Traffic


Here's Zach's Idea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB61NdDzMVM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB61NdDzMVM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 26, 2009, 02:23:37 PM
Wow, I knew the randomness of the LF music is pretty bad, but I didn't know it was this bad! I received a request from Joseph (LightningFever86 on youtube) to upload a clip of "He Reigns" by Bernie Williams. According to my recordings, I couldn't find it at all yesterday, and I found it on one two minute LF from Wednesday (around noon) and on a 90 second flavor from that morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 26, 2009, 02:53:18 PM
UGH!!!  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 26, 2009, 05:19:58 PM
Hmm, I'm hearing "Walking Through" by Kaya Project, a primetime song on the daytime at 5:18 PM EDT  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 26, 2009, 06:31:00 PM
might be mixing the music before the playlist change,

Finally here is another flavor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaZsXAQ--5A&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaZsXAQ--5A&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 27, 2009, 03:19:06 AM
Woah new flavor at :08

Regional Doppler>local doppler>Regional satellite>almanac>air quality>Marine>Outdoor activity>Daypart>Tonight's forecast>36hr forecast>7 day outlook
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: curtjr4 on June 27, 2009, 03:32:35 AM
Aww, great. I new flavor :footinmouth: I am really getting upset about the new flavors. They are shorter for one to allow more commercials, and I like seeing the Current Conditions segment first. It will be a shame to see now flavors pop up like this :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 27, 2009, 05:28:09 AM
Well, that could have been due to the fact that you have traffic data and marine products. I don't, and I saw the Front Page CC as well as a few other things. What is odd is that I did see that HiRAD was temporarily out for that specific LF.
My guess is that the odd flavor you saw was due to the fact that HiRAD was out now that I look over my clip.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 27, 2009, 05:29:12 AM
I also see they have not switched to the daytime list yet, as I am hearing "Allure" by Ryan Farish at 5:28 AM EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 27, 2009, 05:59:47 AM
Sorry for the triple post here, but I see "Make It Work" by Jeanne Ricks, one of the two dominant songs from overnight (the other being Celestial Soda Pop) continues the overnite playlist at 5:58 AM EDT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 27, 2009, 11:09:28 AM
Woah new flavor at :08

Regional Doppler>local doppler>Regional satellite>almanac>air quality>Marine>Outdoor activity>Daypart>Tonight's forecast>36hr forecast>7 day outlook
Could HiRAD of been unavailable? That might of been why the local obs didn't show.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 27, 2009, 11:15:51 AM
Woah new flavor at :08

Regional Doppler>local doppler>Regional satellite>almanac>air quality>Marine>Outdoor activity>Daypart>Tonight's forecast>36hr forecast>7 day outlook
Could HiRAD of been unavailable? That might of been why the local obs didn't show.

Yep, that's what I said above. I checked my recording from last night and saw that for that particular LF only, the observation site said "Lansing" instead of "Downtown Lansing". It was only that LF, and every other LF had HiRAD available on it. I don't have traffic data, which is why mine opened to the Front Page CC screen and Alejandro's opened to the radar segments.

Notice the observation site in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxs2pLgjAV8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxs2pLgjAV8)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 27, 2009, 12:52:27 PM
on the LDL New Bedford was showing but HIRAD might have been down
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 29, 2009, 05:33:32 AM
Something has definitely changed with the music timeslots. I know for sure that the daytime playlist doesn't start until 6 AM ET now. I'm not sure what's going on with the primetime playlist, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 29, 2009, 06:08:25 AM
I have noticed that lately too, I heard Carolina Shore by Trance Fury at 5:58 am EDT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on June 29, 2009, 11:09:30 AM
There must be some errors going on with the music switching between time slots that they haven't detected yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 29, 2009, 11:15:23 AM
There must be some errors going on with the music switching between time slots that they haven't detected yet.
If the overnight list goes until 6 AM EDT every morning, I would think they made the change intentionally. It doesn't seem like an error to me. In fact, I am in favor of it, and with the overnight playlist orginally ending at 2 AM PDT, at least it would not end so early. Now I am more likely to catch the overnight songs I am looking for when I travel to record an XL  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 29, 2009, 11:53:54 AM
I like it that the overnight list now goes to 6am. During school, I usually get up at that time so it'll be easy to catch overnight songs on my VCR. Only downside is that I can only fit 8 local's on the time schedule...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 29, 2009, 11:55:17 AM
6AM makes sense. Most places are still pretty dark at the 5AM hour anyway.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 29, 2009, 12:50:36 PM
6AM makes sense. Most places are still pretty dark at the 5AM hour anyway.
Agreed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 29, 2009, 04:42:30 PM
Fall River IntelliStar has been Discontinued

Now it is all New Bedford
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 29, 2009, 04:59:25 PM
Fall River IntelliStar has been Discontinued

Now it is all New Bedford
I thought New Bedford and Fall River had always been served by the same STAR, hence why the forecast was for "Fall River/New Bedford." :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 29, 2009, 05:00:42 PM
Fall River IntelliStar has been Discontinued

Now it is all New Bedford
I thought New Bedford and Fall River had always been served by the same STAR, hence why the forecast was for "Fall River/New Bedford." :unsure:


Not no more now my IStar only serves New Bedford now  :(

Videos of New alone Star  (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gt1racer&view=videos)

And here's the new ldl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgUdECjC_5Y&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgUdECjC_5Y&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 29, 2009, 09:01:53 PM
Maybe your headend expanded and they chose New Bedford since it's centered on it's viewing area? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 30, 2009, 12:28:55 AM
Maybe your headend expanded and they chose New Bedford since it's centered on it's viewing area? :unsure:

I guess your right Mike they expanded the headend, The cool thing about it is i get a better metro map, new radar cities and i see fall river on the CC cities more often.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 30, 2009, 11:50:22 AM
I could've sworn that this morning during the 8 AM and 9 AM hours, I was seeing the sponsors for Storm Stories that you would usually see on Local IntelliSTARs rather than the good old DBS logo for satellite customers. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 30, 2009, 01:37:18 PM
What happened to Ryan Farish's Everlasting album? It's not on iTunes anymore.  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 30, 2009, 11:32:57 PM
Wow, I never seen a traffic report that explained injuries! And we've had plenty of those kinds of accidents here for sure. Usually when there's accidents involving injuries and especially deaths it would say something along the lines of "closed for investigations."
Just saw an incident saying "accident only left lane gets by - with injury."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 30, 2009, 11:46:11 PM
Wow, I never seen a traffic report that explained injuries! And we've had plenty of those kinds of accidents here for sure. Usually when there's accidents involving injuries and especially deaths it would say something along the lines of "closed for investigations."
Just saw an incident saying "accident only left lane gets by - with injury."
Did you record it? I am a traffic data fanatic, and I would really like to see it.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 30, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
I'll try to see if it's still there on the next LF. They updated it to include that police and fire crew are there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 01, 2009, 12:03:49 AM
I got it recorded but it will be awhile before I can upload the video. For now, here's a camera pic (I hope the text is readable).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 01, 2009, 12:12:59 AM
I just hope I don't see stuff like that at local street levels on the IntelliSTAR (the non-Highways). :hmm:


Anyways, I might be able to get Tampa IntelliSTAR clips this Friday. :thrilled:

My goal is to get 6 of them (one with the STAR ID). I aim to get the :08-:58 LFs in the hour that I'm at my grandmother's house if I go see her.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 01, 2009, 08:02:18 AM
Those generic human paper cut outs they were using for holiday openers in 2007 are back for the Independence Day opener. :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on July 01, 2009, 08:59:36 AM
Those generic human paper cut outs they were using for holiday openers in 2007 are back for the Independence Day opener. :thumbdown:
It's was also used in last year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 01, 2009, 09:06:35 AM
Those generic human paper cut outs they were using for holiday openers in 2007 are back for the Independence Day opener. :thumbdown:
It's was also used in last year.
The holiday openers used to be far more creative and interesting in earlier times.  It's a shame that they haven't been updated in some way for the past two years now. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 01, 2009, 10:52:05 AM
Those generic human paper cut outs they were using for holiday openers in 2007 are back for the Independence Day opener. :thumbdown:
I've never been a fan of those either. The pre-2007 openers were much better.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 03, 2009, 09:43:09 AM
My IntelliStar has been frozen on the Radar screen since 9:28 AM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 03, 2009, 11:32:47 AM
My IntelliStar has been frozen on the Radar screen since 9:28 AM ET.
I haven't seen that kind of error before on the IntelliStar. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 03, 2009, 02:20:21 PM
My IntelliStar has been frozen on the Radar screen since 9:28 AM ET.
It was unfrozen sometime between 12 PM and 2 PM today, but the STAR is still down.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 03, 2009, 03:36:42 PM
This is a question to IntelliSTAR users with Traffic Products. Is it natural for IntelliSTARs with traffic not to display traffic at the end on a one-minute flavor? :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 03, 2009, 04:27:40 PM
This is a question to IntelliSTAR users with Traffic Products. Is it natural for IntelliSTARs with traffic not to display traffic at the end on a one-minute flavor? :thinking:
Correct. Traffic does not display during one minute locals.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 03, 2009, 04:56:59 PM
Well, I got the IntelliSTAR clips as promised, and I noticed that the regional maps didn't show at all. :thinking:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2EAFD7194BC46B2F (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2EAFD7194BC46B2F)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 05, 2009, 09:00:19 PM
I am up in Alpena, MI tonite. I notice that this Intellistar (ID 23855) has two different regional maps, with different cities on the Current Conditions regional map than there is on the Forecast regional map. Has anyone ever heard of this before? I will post a video some time after 11 PM when long form is over.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 05, 2009, 09:05:30 PM
If anyone is looking for a different cut to Breathe in Here it is!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnSNSUB-WZI&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnSNSUB-WZI&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 05, 2009, 10:29:40 PM
I am up in Alpena, MI tonite. I notice that this Intellistar (ID 23855) has two different regional maps, with different cities on the Current Conditions regional map than there is on the Forecast regional map. Has anyone ever heard of this before? I will post a video some time after 11 PM when long form is over.
No but I've seen an IntelliStar up in the NYC area that had a different metro CC map than the forecast map (there was one city on the CC map that wasn't on the forecast map). There were many XL's (mine wasn't one of them) that were also like this during the first few years of its run.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 05, 2009, 10:38:54 PM
I am up in Alpena, MI tonite. I notice that this Intellistar (ID 23855) has two different regional maps, with different cities on the Current Conditions regional map than there is on the Forecast regional map. Has anyone ever heard of this before? I will post a video some time after 11 PM when long form is over.
No but I've seen an IntelliStar up in the NYC area that had a different metro CC map than the forecast map (there was one city on the CC map that wasn't on the forecast map). There were many XL's (mine wasn't one of them) that were also like this during the first few years of its run.
Ah, okay. It still sounds unusual for this deal with the regional map here. I didn't know the XL once did show CC on the regional map, since I haven't seen it on any of the XL's I have seen  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 06, 2009, 11:19:55 PM
Anyone know the name of this song? I think I took it off of someone's video, but I can't find it now. It's from February 2008 overnight.
That's "The Joy of Being" by Joseph Akins. I couldn't find that song earlier because TWC mistakenly labeled the artist as "Joseph Atkins" instead. :rolleyes:
(I meant to bring this up awhile ago). Actually, that isn't the Joseph Atkins song. Is the song not on the playlist? I've sampled all the others except for the Ronald Valentine song... God, I hope it's not the Ron Valentine song..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 06, 2009, 11:29:29 PM
Hmm, they do both sound similiar. Ron Valentine is the only one left then and he's a pianist as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 06, 2009, 11:38:56 PM
Hmm, they do both sound similiar. Ron Valentine is the only one left then and he's a pianist as well.
Oh fudge. This is one of the few artists I've been completely unable to contact.. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 06, 2009, 11:41:29 PM
I contacted him several times on BMI with no reply.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 07, 2009, 01:32:16 AM
I contacted him several times on BMI with no reply.
They gave me his email, but it's either outdated, or he didn't reply. >.<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on July 07, 2009, 12:59:19 PM
They're playing Billie Jean during the LF? o_O
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 07, 2009, 01:01:26 PM
They're playing Billie Jean during the LF? o_O

I caught a recording of it to, wasn't exactly expecting that!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on July 07, 2009, 01:09:07 PM
It appears to be back to normal as of the 12:08 CDT LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 07, 2009, 01:20:51 PM
They're playing Billie Jean during the LF? o_O

i personally think it would be an awesome idea to play MJ music on TWC for today, but that's just me.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 07, 2009, 01:28:06 PM
Please post a video of that one (I don't buy it, but maybe...)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 07, 2009, 01:37:14 PM
Please post a video of that one (I don't buy it, but maybe...)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5FiSHZa0KM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5FiSHZa0KM#)

Here it is! Trust me it's REAL!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on July 07, 2009, 01:39:46 PM
It happened again at 12:38 CDT.

TOTPD! :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 07, 2009, 01:43:33 PM
Please post a video of that one (I don't buy it, but maybe...)


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5FiSHZa0KM#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5FiSHZa0KM#[/url])

Here it is! Trust me it's REAL!


I heard this song, as well. :yes: This is no joke.

IMO, it does not fit very well with TWC at all. :thumbdown: is this vocal music a new thing TWC is bringing out, or was it just for Michael Jackson? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on July 07, 2009, 01:46:18 PM
It must be temporary. In the LFs between 11:58 CDT and 12:38 CDT, they played tracks from the normal daytime playlist. They tried vocal music once (in May 2007), but as we know, it lasted only one night.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 07, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
Please post a video of that one (I don't buy it, but maybe...)


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5FiSHZa0KM#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5FiSHZa0KM#[/url])

Here it is! Trust me it's REAL!


I heard this song, as well. :yes: This is no joke.

IMO, it does not fit very well with TWC at all. :thumbdown: is this vocal music a new thing TWC is bringing out, or was it just for Michael Jackson? :dunno:


I'm pretty sure it only played becasue today is MJ's memorial service.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 07, 2009, 01:52:14 PM
While listening to Billy Jean (which, for some reason, would have fit really well with a STAR 3000 running with it), I heard Layla on TWC itself, and it sounds like they slightly fixed the time in on that song to an extent...the piano part now starts with the Local (the first note was getting cut off at first).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 07, 2009, 02:22:05 PM
I thought I was hearing things at the 12:58 lf at my friends IntelliStar. Odd..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Gil on July 07, 2009, 02:22:47 PM
Okay, kickass song! I wouldn't mind hearing it on TWC for a day!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 07, 2009, 02:24:20 PM
They're playing Billie Jean during the LF? o_O

i personally think it would be an awesome idea to play MJ music on TWC for today, but that's just me.  :biggrin:
Same here! I don't mind hearing Don't Stop Till You Get Enough with its' vocals.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 07, 2009, 02:26:49 PM
Vivian Brown did say they were going to be playing his music today as a tribute during the LF at the end of Day Planner today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 07, 2009, 02:30:44 PM
It's on again!!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 07, 2009, 02:32:38 PM
They could play some of his other songs besides "Billie Jean". :rolleyes: I wanna hear "Thriller".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on July 07, 2009, 02:34:08 PM
It happened again at 13:29 CDT between episodes of It Could Happen Tomorrow.

Back to normal at 13:59 CDT...

Again at 14:29 CDT...

Back to normal at 14:59 CDT...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 07, 2009, 06:21:41 PM
I don't think the Atlantic City  intellistar has the new flavors in effect. There would be a satellite lf every :08 and :38 and the same :28 and :58 lineups
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 07, 2009, 07:01:37 PM
so i know some members have come across this issue on the IS Crawl...letters missing.

is it a self-fix, or should it be reported?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 08, 2009, 12:04:02 AM
so i know some members have come across this issue on the IS Crawl...letters missing.

is it a self-fix, or should it be reported?
Yeah, I have a problem with the ad crawls where it shows an X in place of where colons and apostrophes should be. My guess is the colon isn't in the IntelliStar's harddrive or something... shouldn't be too hard to fix.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 08, 2009, 12:08:02 PM
Does anyone know the name of this song? It's so familiar, yet I just can't remember the name...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpEZP2hcGl8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpEZP2hcGl8#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 08, 2009, 12:34:11 PM
Sarsandeo by Mark Krurnowski
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 08, 2009, 12:36:24 PM
Sarsandeo by Mark Krurnowski
No it isn't. If it is Mark then it has to be Things I've Known since that's the only one on the playlist that isn't on iTunes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 08, 2009, 12:37:12 PM
Sarsandeo by Mark Krurnowski
No it isn't. If it is Mark then it has to be Things I've Known since that's the only one on the playlist that isn't on iTunes.
That song was in Nov 06, and it's a completely diff track.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 08, 2009, 01:01:53 PM
Does anyone have a clip of "Six Four" by the Rippingtons when it played in March 2007?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 09, 2009, 07:53:17 AM
Does anyone have a clip of "Six Four" by the Rippingtons when it played in March 2007?
Wow, I didn't know it played then as well. Sorry, I have very little from '07 :(

Anyway, I sent 7and5 a message on myspace, and found a reply this morning:

Quote
The Weather Channel has both of my CDs and you are right it has been a little bit since we have been given airplay.

They seemed to have moved more towards smooth jazz, but I do still hear Ruan Farish on there.

With email requests from listeners like yourself, I am sure they would put 7and5 back in their rotation. Nothing speaks louder than the customer...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 09, 2009, 07:59:00 AM
New summer station ID at 7:57 AM EDT!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 09, 2009, 08:59:01 AM
Another new one which looks like a pool in summer at 8:57 AM EDT!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 10, 2009, 04:39:26 PM
Has anyone been able to find the Ryan Farish song playing this month yet?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 10, 2009, 04:43:31 PM
Has anyone been able to find the Ryan Farish song playing this month yet?
It's a terrible song IMO, but I have a habit of collecting every Ryan Farish song TWC uses...so I might as well get the song. Ryan will email it to me but you have to wait for a week.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 10, 2009, 05:37:33 PM
here's a weird one!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 10, 2009, 06:00:19 PM
I'm not sure if it was a genius idea, but I have created a Fan Page for Local on the 8s.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anywhere-in-the-US/Local-on-the-8s/138852553760?ref=s (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anywhere-in-the-US/Local-on-the-8s/138852553760?ref=s)


Become a fan if you want. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on July 10, 2009, 06:46:16 PM
Alejandro: I got that recently for Sky Harbor International Airport (PHX/22329).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 11, 2009, 01:40:23 PM
Does anyone know the name of this song? It's so familiar, yet I just can't remember the name...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpEZP2hcGl8#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpEZP2hcGl8#[/url])

I'm starting to think that this song is either the Mark Carter song or the Mick Mahan song. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 11, 2009, 01:53:56 PM
That song sounds alot like Mark K
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 11, 2009, 01:57:12 PM
I sample "Smooth Dancer" by Mark Carter and it sounds similiar. Mick Mahan played sax I thought.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 11, 2009, 02:06:11 PM
I sample "Smooth Dancer" by Mark Carter and it sounds similiar. Mick Mahan played sax I thought.
No, Mick Mahan plays bass.  :yes:

And no, it's not Mark Krurnowski either. There are no keyboards in Mark's songs. Plus, I have all his songs that aired during this time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 11, 2009, 02:18:41 PM
I sample "Smooth Dancer" by Mark Carter and it sounds similiar. Mick Mahan played sax I thought.
No, Mick Mahan plays bass.  :yes:

And no, it's not Mark Krurnowski either. There are no keyboards in Mark's songs. Plus, I have all his songs that aired during this time.
I don't hear any bass song in that song..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 11, 2009, 05:50:56 PM
as seen in derek's vid i wonder how the current backround would look with all the old transtions and the old screens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PKhh0MoZaQ&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PKhh0MoZaQ&fmt=18#)

would anyone like to see that?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on July 11, 2009, 08:46:19 PM
as seen in derek's vid i wonder how the current backround would look with all the old transtions and the old screens

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PKhh0MoZaQ&fmt=18#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PKhh0MoZaQ&fmt=18#[/url])

would anyone like to see that?
I do. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 11, 2009, 09:27:55 PM
As much as I like the current layout that would look nice too. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 12, 2009, 02:18:36 PM
Heres the Radar Pics of a heavy cell that rolled through Southeast Mass
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on July 12, 2009, 03:04:21 PM
Cool shots!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 12, 2009, 08:16:07 PM
I found this image of the DirecTV LF app on the DirecTV website, and the font looks different than the font on the "real" thing.

(http://h.imagehost.org/0992/d-twc_localonthe8s.jpg)

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=1200065 (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=1200065)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 12, 2009, 08:32:55 PM
A WeatherSTAR 4000 in the Bahamas?? :blink:

(http://h.imagehost.org/0029/30903077qvXjKsgGeN_ph.jpg)

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1030903077028330488qvXjKsgGeN (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1030903077028330488qvXjKsgGeN)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 12, 2009, 08:36:06 PM
I found this image of the DirecTV LF app on the DirecTV website, and the font looks different than the font on the "real" thing

[url]http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=1200065[/url] ([url]http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=1200065[/url])
Might just be a mockup, or perhaps an image during its beta testing days.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 12, 2009, 10:12:56 PM
Speaking of the 4000, does anyone know about or even seen a tornado icon appear on the CC page before?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 12, 2009, 10:18:22 PM
Speaking of the 4000, does anyone know about or even seen a tornado icon appear on the CC page before?

I don't think one even exists, it would be kinda hard to put something like that on a 4000 or any STAR unless they were definite there was one heading for that STAR's location.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 12, 2009, 10:23:37 PM
Speaking of the 4000, does anyone know about or even seen a tornado icon appear on the CC page before?

I don't think one even exists, it would be kinda hard to put something like that on a 4000 or any STAR unless they were definite there was one heading for that STAR's location.
Because someone told me they've seen one once, when 'FC' was reported in the METAR report.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 12, 2009, 10:26:21 PM
I wonder if HiRAD is capable of reporting Funnel Clouds and Tornadoes as a current weather observation though...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 12, 2009, 10:34:10 PM
I wonder if HiRAD is capable of reporting Funnel Clouds and Tornadoes as a current weather observation though...

We had EAS bulletins interrupting regular programming when we got hit by a tornado 16 months ago, I t would have been really neat to see something like that on my IntelliStar that night, but knowing me I would have been freaking out at the same time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 12, 2009, 10:46:15 PM
I wonder if HiRAD is capable of reporting Funnel Clouds and Tornadoes as a current weather observation though...

We had EAS bulletins interrupting regular programming when we got hit by a tornado 16 months ago, I t would have been really neat to see something like that on my IntelliStar that night, but knowing me I would have been freaking out at the same time.
I always wondered about that too. My area is sometimes under a tornado warning and all they show is a severe/heavy thunderstorm icon instead.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 12, 2009, 10:53:14 PM
I wonder if HiRAD is capable of reporting Funnel Clouds and Tornadoes as a current weather observation though...

We had EAS bulletins interrupting regular programming when we got hit by a tornado 16 months ago, I t would have been really neat to see something like that on my IntelliStar that night, but knowing me I would have been freaking out at the same time.
I always wondered about that too. My area is sometimes under a tornado warning and all they show is a severe/heavy thunderstorm icon instead.

Up until this past week, all I ever saw was the Rain, Heavy Rain ,and Showers icons, it used to really tick my off because it was always wrong most of the time it was lightning and thundering like crazy and it would say showers in the vicinity and usually it was 20 minutes behind on updating to any kind of precip outside.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 12, 2009, 11:48:38 PM
I'm not talking about hirad or if there's a tornado warning. I'm talking about if the 4000 were to encounter a METAR report such as this:
KARR 052345Z 25008KT 9SM FC FEW065 23/16 A2990 RMK FUNNEL CLOUD......

Rather than displaying 'partly cloudy' (which would be shown because of 'FEW'), the 4000 would display some kind of tornado icon on the CC screen.

And I can assure you that neither the intellistar nor the XL are capable of reporting tornado/funnel cloud as a current condition.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 13, 2009, 12:04:17 AM
I wonder if HiRAD is capable of reporting Funnel Clouds and Tornadoes as a current weather observation though...
Nope.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 13, 2009, 01:19:17 AM
I wonder if HiRAD is capable of reporting Funnel Clouds and Tornadoes as a current weather observation though...
Nope.
HiRAD has a lot of issues. Needs to be accurate for once before it can a display tornado/funnel cloud icon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 13, 2009, 01:25:12 AM
It needs better tweaking so it can report fog and haze more often. It's hazy here all the time during the summer, but I've only seen haze being reported here once since HiRAD was put into play, and that was in August 2007. Fog and haze is reported a lot more often with the reporting stations.

We also had smoke around here last spring when wildfires were burning in the Pine Barrens, but no HiRAD locations were reporting smoke, even locales located near or within the pine barrens like Fort Dix, Browns Mills, and Lakewood.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 13, 2009, 01:57:03 AM
It needs better tweaking so it can report fog and haze more often. It's hazy here all the time during the summer, but I've only seen haze being reported here once since HiRAD was put into play, and that was in August 2007. Fog and haze is reported a lot more often with the reporting stations.

We also had smoke around here last spring when wildfires were burning in the Pine Barrens, but no HiRAD locations were reporting smoke, even locales located near or within the pine barrens like Fort Dix, Browns Mills, and Lakewood.
Well, as it says in my signature, I have never seen Heavy Snow, Heavy Rain, or Visibilities lower than 0.3 miles, not once since HiRAD was installed here. Really bothers me when I can't see 10 feet down Pennsylvania Avenue in snow, not even down to the hospital a block to my north.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 13, 2009, 11:08:08 AM
I see heavy rain being reported here all the time here. Only seen heavy snow once or twice, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on July 13, 2009, 01:32:37 PM
My biggest gripe is that HiRAD is verrrry wrong with temperature around here. It varies too much around here for HiRAD to work. For example it might be 78 at the Seattle Airport where the reporting station is, but it'll be 86 here in Auburn. But, instead HiRAD only thinks it's 81 here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 13, 2009, 01:56:43 PM
The HiRAD temperature for Bensalem is almost always the same (maybe 1-2º apart sometimes) as the temperature reading at the Northeast Philadelphia airport station, which is only about 10-15 minutes from here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 13, 2009, 03:11:14 PM
I see heavy rain being reported here all the time here. Only seen heavy snow once or twice, though.
Could just be a fluke with my unit. I've never seen it happen though, even when the airport is reporting heavy precip or visibilities less than 0.3 miles, and I am less than 5 miles from it.

My biggest gripe is that HiRAD is verrrry wrong with temperature around here. It varies too much around here for HiRAD to work. For example it might be 78 at the Seattle Airport where the reporting station is, but it'll be 86 here in Auburn. But, instead HiRAD only thinks it's 81 here.
That seems to me like the idea HiRAD was originally developed to address. My biggest thing is that a software program installed on a STAR will NEVER do a good job with local demographics (changes in elevation, population density, etc).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 13, 2009, 03:39:14 PM
All you people do is bitch complain. :rolleyes:

HiRAD, while not perfect, is a VERY neat technology. If you think you can do better, go to college, develop something better, and then get back to me and we'll talk.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 13, 2009, 03:50:43 PM
All you people do is bitch complain. :rolleyes:

HiRAD, while not perfect, is a VERY neat technology. If you think you can do better, go to college, develop something better, and then get back to me and we'll talk.
Amen. :clap:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 13, 2009, 07:58:58 PM
All you people do is bitch complain. :rolleyes:

HiRAD, while not perfect, is a VERY neat technology. If you think you can do better, go to college, develop something better, and then get back to me and we'll talk.
Tyler, I hate to break it to you, but you don't know everything. You have terrible temperment, and you are much too cocky. If my "bitching" really bothers you that much, ignore it and either change the topic of discussion or stay out of here until someone else does. Your opinion of HiRAD is fine, but I think it is crap, and I know it always will be. Any reason TWC has to cut itself off from the NWS? Try acting more mature than you think I am for once. I may not be helping my case, but you are not the administrator here.

Amen. :clap:
You know Zach, I seem to remember a time when you were on the other side of the fence. When did the tables suddenly turn? I obviously wasn't aware of it. Don't try to make yourself look good, because that is exactly what you were doing there. Tyler wants to interpret things the wrong way here, maybe I should follow suit.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 13, 2009, 08:07:14 PM
I'm just agreeing with him because all you guys are doing is arguing over how much you hate HiRAD. What's wrong with HiRAD? I don't see what there is to hate about it. I mean, I'd rather get Current Conditions from Thonotosassa rather than Tampa International Airport for Pete's sake.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 13, 2009, 08:09:27 PM
I'm just agreeing with him because all you guys are doing is arguing over how much you hate HiRAD. What's wrong with HiRAD? I don't see what there is to hate about it. I mean, I'd rather get Current Conditions from Thonotosassa rather than Tampa International Airport for Pete's sake.
No, the best idea would have been to stay out of it, and you know that. HiRAD is shit, and computer software will NEVER beat the real observations.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 13, 2009, 08:14:17 PM
HiRAD is not one of my favorite things, i wish they would revert back to the Pre HiRAD Days.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lightning86 on July 13, 2009, 08:23:24 PM
HiRAD is okay for me. If it's wrong, I just look outside the window to make sure. But I agree with you guys, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 13, 2009, 08:31:32 PM
HiRAD is okay for me. If it's wrong, I just look outside the window to make sure. But I agree with you guys, though.

I do that all the time, there was only one time where the HiRAD CC on my IntelliStar was completely wrong and that was during the March 1st Snowstorm, it said 37° and light rain, but I looked outside and it was moderate snow falling and sticking to the ground, it took about 20 mins. for that to update to snow. The NWS was right though, they said it was 34° and snow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 13, 2009, 10:53:24 PM
All you people do is bitch complain. :rolleyes:

HiRAD, while not perfect, is a VERY neat technology. If you think you can do better, go to college, develop something better, and then get back to me and we'll talk.
Tyler, I hate to break it to you, but you don't know everything. You have terrible temperment, and you are much too cocky. If my "bitching" really bothers you that much, ignore it and either change the topic of discussion or stay out of here until someone else does. Your opinion of HiRAD is fine, but I think it is crap, and I know it always will be. Any reason TWC has to cut itself off from the NWS? Try acting more mature than you think I am for once. I may not be helping my case, but you are not the administrator here.

You're entitled to you're opinion, but all you do is complain about it. Obviously, it's not perfect, nothing is. I mean, NWS obs aren't always up-to-the minute, are they? No. Some NWS sites don't report 24 hours, do they? No. HiRAD was invented to help areas where NWS sites like this exist, or they are too-far in between, and above all, to be MORE LOCAL. Like I said, it's not perfect, but nothing is. It continually undergoes changes and routine maintenance to make it better. But, complaining about it all the time isn't going to do anything about it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 13, 2009, 11:07:54 PM
Hmm... my headend seems to once again be pulling Burlington's TWC feed like what happened back in January. Time for more headaching chatting with Comcast. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 13, 2009, 11:58:48 PM
All you people do is bitch complain. :rolleyes:

HiRAD, while not perfect, is a VERY neat technology. If you think you can do better, go to college, develop something better, and then get back to me and we'll talk.
Tyler, I hate to break it to you, but you don't know everything. You have terrible temperment, and you are much too cocky. If my "bitching" really bothers you that much, ignore it and either change the topic of discussion or stay out of here until someone else does. Your opinion of HiRAD is fine, but I think it is crap, and I know it always will be. Any reason TWC has to cut itself off from the NWS? Try acting more mature than you think I am for once. I may not be helping my case, but you are not the administrator here.

You're entitled to you're opinion, but all you do is complain about it. Obviously, it's not perfect, nothing is. I mean, NWS obs aren't always up-to-the minute, are they? No. Some NWS sites don't report 24 hours, do they? No. HiRAD was invented to help areas where NWS sites like this exist, or they are too-far in between, and above all, to be MORE LOCAL. Like I said, it's not perfect, but nothing is. It continually undergoes changes and routine maintenance to make it better. But, complaining about it all the time isn't going to do anything about it.
Tyler, I am not complaining about it. I have made my opinions on it clear, but I am not complaining about it. You are clearly interpreting it the wrong way. Believe it or not, there is such a thing as TOO LOCAL. Here's something you may not be realizing:
Many headends serve massive areas. I know mine does. To my knowledge, my headend serves Grand Ledge, Eaton Rapids, and Ionia, all at least 10 miles away from the location of the STAR itself (where the HiRAD and Falsepoint sites are set to), and Ionia is indeed 30 miles away. The next headend to the west is over there in Grand Rapids. When headends are this large, there is no point for HiRAD. The "local" feel goes away. Precipitation amounts (especially with thunderstorms) vary greatly over the areas served by these headends. Does it do any good for the people north of Lansing to see a report of a thunderstorm that is over the headend south of Lansing? Do the people of Ionia 30 miles away care if south Lansing is getting heavy snow from a lake effect band when it is just cloudy for them? Sure, NWS sites can be spread out, but HiRAD does not do any better to solve this problem. In most cases, it is just changing the central location from the NWS site to the HiRAD site.

When you get into even bigger cities like Detroit or, Pittsburgh for example, there are more airports that are closer together and are more likely to produce legit and accurate results that are plenty close enough to the headends themselves. The NWS sites in cities/central locations DO produce 24 hour observations. The sites that may not do so are way out in sparsely populated areas where cable is most likely not available anyway. Also, HiRAD updates 3 times an hour. Is this better than the legit NWS sites that produce hourly observations? Sure. But is it better than the sites that update twice an hour? Not really, or at least the difference is neglegable.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 14, 2009, 05:06:31 AM
Hmm... my headend seems to once again be pulling Burlington's TWC feed like what happened back in January. Time for more headaching chatting with Comcast. <_<
Hopefully it goes well. In the mean time, try to get some video. I am curious to see what this feed looks like.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 14, 2009, 07:52:38 AM
Still getting it this morning. I got a reply from Comcast and all those b****'s asked for is my service address, like my ZIP code isn't enough for them.  :rolleyes: I don't think Marlton is served by multiple IntelliStars. I'd ask the Star Team but I don't want them making other changes to my STAR like what happened to yours last month, and you weren't satisfied with those changes. If Comcast doesn't want to cooperate with me that might be my only option, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 14, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
Still getting it this morning. I got a reply from Comcast and all those b****'s asked for is my service address, like my ZIP code isn't enough for them.  :rolleyes: I don't think Marlton is served by multiple IntelliStars. I'd ask the Star Team but I don't want them making other changes to my STAR like what happened to yours last month, and you weren't satisfied with those changes. If Comcast doesn't want to cooperate with me that might be my only option, though.
I'm not completely unsatisfied, there are just further changes that need to be made. What did you do back in January to get the problem fixed? How long did it take?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 14, 2009, 10:24:51 AM
All I did was contacted Comcast countless times about this. It was fixed a month later, but I don't know if the technical department actually saw the emails I sent, or they just noticed it themselves.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 14, 2009, 11:02:25 AM
All I did was contacted Comcast countless times about this. It was fixed a month later, but I don't know if the technical department actually saw the emails I sent, or they just noticed it themselves.
That's the advice I would offer to you in this case. Be persistent, and perhaps it will pay off. Try going to the headend office where the Bensalem Intellistar is located and see if they know what is going on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 14, 2009, 11:07:52 AM
This is for the iStar here in Marlton, not Bensalem. I'll see about visiting my headend today, I think it's in Cherry Hill somewhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 14, 2009, 11:21:18 AM
Oh okay, I thought you were still in Bensalem.
I found a location that says it is in nearby Maple Shade, but when I look at it on Virtual Earth, it looks like a shopping center. If worse comes to worse, ask Comcast where the location is to verify. I would think there is no reason they would want to conceal it from you.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on July 14, 2009, 11:27:40 AM
Where I live I think HiRAD is not needed because Toledo Suburban airport gives new observations every 1 to 3 minutes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 14, 2009, 11:31:30 AM
Mike, as I look at the satellite image, I think I found the location of your Intellistar unit:

1250 Berlin Rd, Cherry Hill, NJ
(856) 354-1660

Hope this helps  :wave:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 14, 2009, 11:54:50 AM
Mike, as I look at the satellite image, I think I found the locaton of your Intellistar unit:

1250 Berlin Rd, Cherry Hill, NJ
(856) 354-1660

Hope this helps  :wave:
I've been to that Comcast headend many times....Its BIG
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 14, 2009, 11:57:27 AM
Mike, as I look at the satellite image, I think I found the location of your Intellistar unit:

1250 Berlin Rd, Cherry Hill, NJ
(856) 354-1660

Hope this helps  :wave:
I've been to that Comcast headend many times....Its BIG
I know, I see that. I can't seem to find any satellite dishes on it though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 14, 2009, 12:00:40 PM
It's not far from where my relatives in Voorhees live, I don't think there are many it's just mainly a 1 story buliding. Looks mainly like a office but I don't remember seeing any units there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 14, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
You know, I've been curious as to where my headend is as well.. The bill says its "Comcast of Scotts Valley", however I do recall seeing a rather large comcast building in Santa Cruz, which would make more sense. Also, if my Intellistar was based out of Scotts Valley, the config is shifted way too far south.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on July 14, 2009, 12:10:32 PM
I've been to Washington, PA and my grandma living in Mcmurray told me that the Comcast service there is excellent.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 14, 2009, 12:12:25 PM
The Comcast headend in my area is in Pleasantville, but on the shore communities it just lists A.C Boardwalk as the reporting site. In the mainland, it just says Atlantic City.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 14, 2009, 12:18:17 PM
Well, I seem to be lucky in this case. I know right where my STAR is. My headend serves a very large area, and everything is disproportionate here too. People in Eaton Rapids 10 miles to the SSW and Ionia 30 miles to the WNW see the same info I do. I am not sure where the E.L. STAR is though, can't seem to figure that one out.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 14, 2009, 12:19:15 PM
Haha, I must have the smallest headend because mine only serves Hillsborough County. :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 14, 2009, 02:24:50 PM
Mike, as I look at the satellite image, I think I found the location of your Intellistar unit:

1250 Berlin Rd, Cherry Hill, NJ
(856) 354-1660

Hope this helps  :wave:
Yeah that's what I saw too. I'll make a call first, and if that doesn't help I'll take a drive there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 14, 2009, 02:29:15 PM
Nevermind, 21872 is back!  :clap: Looks like it had to be rebooted, as it's missing some data.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 14, 2009, 03:25:13 PM
You know, I've been curious as to where my headend is as well.. The bill says its "Comcast of Scotts Valley", however I do recall seeing a rather large comcast building in Santa Cruz, which would make more sense. Also, if my Intellistar was based out of Scotts Valley, the config is shifted way too far south.

Your IntelliStar is Scotts Valley. When there is a Current Conditions outage on the IntelliStar, the headend location will appear on the Current Conditions page, like in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysj7UonWx0&feature=channel_page# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysj7UonWx0&feature=channel_page#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 14, 2009, 03:37:51 PM
You know, I've been curious as to where my headend is as well.. The bill says its "Comcast of Scotts Valley", however I do recall seeing a rather large comcast building in Santa Cruz, which would make more sense. Also, if my Intellistar was based out of Scotts Valley, the config is shifted way too far south.

Your IntelliStar is Scotts Valley. When there is a Current Conditions outage on the IntelliStar, the headend location will appear on the Current Conditions page, like in this video:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysj7UonWx0&feature=channel_page#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysj7UonWx0&feature=channel_page#[/url])

Oh so it's not the backup Hirad station?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 14, 2009, 03:43:24 PM
You know, I've been curious as to where my headend is as well.. The bill says its "Comcast of Scotts Valley", however I do recall seeing a rather large comcast building in Santa Cruz, which would make more sense. Also, if my Intellistar was based out of Scotts Valley, the config is shifted way too far south.

Your IntelliStar is Scotts Valley. When there is a Current Conditions outage on the IntelliStar, the headend location will appear on the Current Conditions page, like in this video:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysj7UonWx0&feature=channel_page#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysj7UonWx0&feature=channel_page#[/url])

Oh so it's not the backup Hirad station?

Yeah, that's the headend location. The backup for HiRAD are the NWS observation sites.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 14, 2009, 05:35:37 PM
What confuses me as to why the radar and metro maps aren't centered on Scotts Valley then.. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 14, 2009, 06:26:49 PM
here's the marine template screen
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 14, 2009, 06:56:41 PM
What confuses me as to why the radar and metro maps aren't centered on Scotts Valley then.. :thinking:
Your Intellistar unit could be much like mine isn't. My maps and guess sites are centered right over the location of the STAR, where guesses are gathered. This being said, maps and data are only focused on the eastern portion of Lansing itself, as opposed to the center of the area served which should be 15 or so miles to the WSW. Anyway, my guess is that in your case, data gathered and guessed is for the area served, not necessarily the location of the STAR itself.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 14, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
So, my IntelliStar must be in Fort Dix then, not Cherry Hill.  :thinking: I guess Cherry Hill is what carries the Camden County IntelliStar then (21873), or maybe just a customer service facility.

I've been to that Comcast headend many times....Its BIG
Yeah, I just passed by that and noticed they have a drive thru to make your payments. I've never seen others like that before. Bensalem's building isn't like that. The road is on is actually Haddonfield Berlin road, not Berlin road. Then again, Google messed up on a lot of the roads here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 14, 2009, 07:18:40 PM
I've been to that Comcast headend many times....Its BIG
Yeah, I just passed by that and noticed they have a drive thru to make your payments. I've never seen others like that before. Bensalem's building isn't like that.
My headend has the same thing, but it is not open 24 hours though. My headend is considerably smaller than the Cherry Hill one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on July 14, 2009, 07:47:03 PM
Mike, as I look at the satellite image, I think I found the location of your Intellistar unit:

1250 Berlin Rd, Cherry Hill, NJ
(856) 354-1660

Hope this helps  :wave:
Yeah that's what I saw too. I'll make a call first, and if that doesn't help I'll take a drive there.
That's just one of my payment offices. My headend is in Audubon, NJ.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 14, 2009, 08:02:31 PM
Yeah, that's mine too. As I said earlier, my headend is in Fort Dix (near where McGuire is) after Billy pointed out that the headend name is what appears on your IntelliStar when there's no data. I wouldn't travel all the way up there just to ask for them to fix the cable feed. Well, at least it's fixed now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 14, 2009, 08:24:15 PM
i know its july but my area is constantly getting record lows
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 14, 2009, 08:34:02 PM
Billy is right. Usually, the locality that appears while current products are unavailable is where the headend is. However, TWC doesn't have the location of some headends, because the cable co only gives TWC the "name" of the headend. For example, the South Hills headend here doesn't use a location - it uses a name, so when there is an outage, the top of the CC screen reads "S HILLS GROUP/Bthl/Cstl Shn/MLeb/Drmt," which translates to the group of South Hills communities of Bethel Park, Castle Shannon, Mount Lebanon, and Dormont. This happened when Comcast took over Adelphia and consolidated the 4 headends in the South Hills to just one.

As another example, my Verizon headend displays "Pittsburgh VHO11," because that is the headend name (VHO stands for Video Hub Office, and Pittsburgh is Verizon's 11th headend).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 14, 2009, 09:00:52 PM
Billy is right. Usually, the locality that appears while current products are unavailable is where the headend is. However, TWC doesn't have the location of some headends, because the cable co only gives TWC the "name" of the headend. For example, the South Hills headend here doesn't use a location - it uses a name, so when there is an outage, the top of the CC screen reads "S HILLS GROUP/Bthl/Cstl Shn/MLeb/Drmt," which translates to the group of South Hills communities of Bethel Park, Castle Shannon, Mount Lebanon, and Dormont. This happened when Comcast took over Adelphia and consolidated the 4 headends in the South Hills to just one.

As another example, my Verizon headend displays "Pittsburgh VHO11," because that is the headend name (VHO stands for Video Hub Office, and Pittsburgh is Verizon's 11th headend).
Yeah, it's like that on the Bensalem/Levittown IntelliStar too; it doesn't show the city the headend is located, so instead, during an outage, the CC page shows the same title as the forecast title (Lower Bucks).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2009, 10:20:57 PM
I have a quick question about the April 2007 playlist...I do know Trans Warp Conduit by Anthony James Baker was used that month, but was the song "Salamander" used too? It sounds very familiar...

Take a listen here: http://www.lala.com/#album/2810527642498944138 (http://www.lala.com/#album/2810527642498944138)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 16, 2009, 10:34:26 PM
I have a question too. I have something rare for even me going on tomorrow, according to my NWS Office over there in Grand Rapids:
Quote
Record cool maximum temperatures expected

Unseasonably cold weather is in store for Southwest Lower Michigan Friday and Saturday. Maximum temperatures are expected to remain below 70 degrees across the area Friday and Saturday. As a result Grand Rapids is expected to break the daily record lowest maximum temperatures for both Friday and Saturday.

At Lansing the record lowest maximum temperatures are 70 on Friday and 67 on Saturday. Both of these records are expected to be broken.

Muskegon’s record lowest maximum temperatures are in the lower 60s both days, which would be harder to break - but is not out of the question.

Warmer weather should return early next week with highs in the mid to upper 70s by Monday. 

 RECORD LOW MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES
GRAND RAPIDS FRIDAY: 71 DEGREES - 1937
                SATURDAY: 68 DEGREES - 1914
MUSKEGON FRIDAY: 60 DEGREES - 1934
           SATURDAY: 63 DEGREES - 1924
LANSING FRIDAY: 70 DEGREES - 1937
        SATURDAY: 67 DEGREES - 1912
TWC has 68 and 69 in, respectively for tomorrow and Saturday. Now, do record low maximums trigger the record low screen?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 16, 2009, 10:42:02 PM
Now, do record low maximums trigger the record low screen?
Aaron, I don't think you'll see one as the only records that average people care about are the usual record highs and lows.  I don't think screens for other records exist, but if you do see it, then please show a clip of it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 16, 2009, 11:13:18 PM
No screen exists. There's just a record low and high screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 09:39:02 AM
Darn, I was hoping to see it. I see the miserable weather is going to keep temps up at night, 10 degrees above the record lows. I haven't had a record low set at KLAN since 2002, so I have never seen the record low screen in person.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 17, 2009, 11:55:54 AM
I just realized something odd on my intellistar's LDL. As of this morning, it's showing the current conditions for Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley, and Soquel (which has never shown up on the LF before). I wasn't aware that the LDL could show conditions for 3 cities like that.. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 12:01:55 PM
I just realized something odd on my intellistar's LDL. As of this morning, it's showing the current conditions for Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley, and Soquel (which has never shown up on the LF before). I wasn't aware that the LDL could show conditions for 3 cities like that.. :unsure:
That is not uncommon at all. In fact, both the Lansing and E.L. units do it. Grand Ledge and Eaton Rapids are on the Lansing STAR as well, and Haslett along with Dwntwn Lansing was added to the E.L. Intellistar unit. I also saw this in Grand Rapids. This is done when STARs serve multiple areas.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 17, 2009, 12:11:37 PM
Hmm, mine's like this too! I now have current conditions for Bordentown and Moorestown in addition to Mount Holly. Has this become a nationwide feature?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 17, 2009, 12:18:01 PM
This feature isn't new, it was implemented when the new LDL came out. All the STARs around here have had it since that point:

22420: Downtown Pittsburgh, Beaver Falls, Washington
22434: New Kensington, Oakmont, Gibsonia
22438: Penn Hills, McKeesport
27542: Downtown Pittsburgh, Bethel Park, Penn Hills
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 17, 2009, 12:23:53 PM
The FiOS Star in Philadelphia has always had this feature, but now the Comcast STARs seem to be like this too. I'll see what cities 21884 has (I'd imagine Bensalem and Bristol are the other two).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 17, 2009, 12:25:22 PM
I can imagine that when I see the Richmond IntelliSTAR tomorrow night, it will be Richmond, Petersburg, and Colonial Heights. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 17, 2009, 01:41:52 PM
Mine has been like that since the Blue LDL beta came out in late May last year, I have Dunwoody and College Park,The first day we got the blue LDL, the wrong HiRAD location was on there, it said Piedmont Park instead of Downtown Atlanta.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 17, 2009, 03:08:48 PM
This feature isn't new, it was implemented when the new LDL came out. All the STARs around here have had it since that point:

22420: Downtown Pittsburgh, Beaver Falls, Washington
22434: New Kensington, Oakmont, Gibsonia
22438: Penn Hills, McKeesport
27542: Downtown Pittsburgh, Bethel Park, Penn Hills

but it's only for certain stars, i don't like when features like that aren't available to all stars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 17, 2009, 03:10:56 PM
It's not for certain STARs. It's just to add it to all STARs would require them to go through each and every one. I think they're adding this to most STARs when they do their periodic review of each individual STAR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 17, 2009, 03:18:41 PM
I find it impossible how the STAR team could add additional cities on the LDL to all of the IntelliStars in one day...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 17, 2009, 04:11:11 PM
Technically, they could. It would be a half-assed job, but they could, They never would do it that way though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 04:16:51 PM
I hate to start an argument but anyone care to call this HiRAD normal-cy?
Spot the fail!

I know these two images were not taken at the exact same time, but HiRAD does not update in the time between these two images.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 17, 2009, 04:20:38 PM
I hate to start an argument but anyone care to call this HiRAD normal-cy?
Spot the fail!

I know these two images were not taken at the exact same time, but HiRAD does not update in the time between these two images.
Actually, I believe HiRAD updates at :18, :38, and :58 past, so it could have still not updated yet. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 04:21:43 PM
I hate to start an argument but anyone care to call this HiRAD normal-cy?
Spot the fail!

I know these two images were not taken at the exact same time, but HiRAD does not update in the time between these two images.
Actually, I believe HiRAD updates at :18, :38, and :58 past, so it could have still not updated yet. ;)
Zach, I was making the point that HiRAD did not update in between the two images, so there is an accurate and legit comparison.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 17, 2009, 04:23:23 PM
The IntelliStar doesn't always get all of the data updated in time for the next forecast. Don't think that's a bug or anything, that's just how it is.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 04:26:31 PM
Again, I am trying to make that point. HiRAD did not update between the two pictures, so the same data that is shown in the second image was used to make the inaccurate guess on the first image.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 17, 2009, 04:28:15 PM
I don't know what you're trying to say. NWS says it's 68 and partly cloudy in Owosso, and it's 63 and cloudy at Fitch Beach Airport near Hastings. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 04:32:06 PM
I don't know what you're trying to say. NWS says it's 68 and partly cloudy in Owosso, and it's 63 and cloudy at Fitch Beach Airport near Hastings. :thinking:
I didn't say that reading for Hastings is wrong. I'm not that crazy about the airport in Owosso; it is hardly ever accurate. Doppler radar shows a spec of precip over Owosso anyway. With a cloudy set-up like the one today, there is no way it can be cloudy here and in Flint, but nearly sunny halfway in between  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 17, 2009, 04:35:07 PM
If it's never accurate, then HiRAD for Owosso can never be accurate.

And why circle Hastings then?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 04:36:52 PM
If it's never accurate, then HiRAD for Owosso can never be accurate.

And why circle Hastings then?
I don't know, I was just pointing out that is chilly for even my area this time of year. I was not trying to prove that reading inaccurate, though I still don't trust it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 17, 2009, 04:44:17 PM
If you're not trying to prove it's wrong, then why complain?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 04:52:04 PM
If you're not trying to prove it's wrong, then why complain?

There you go again Tyler, interpreting the wrong way that I am complaining. I was proving the guess for Owosso wrong.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 17, 2009, 04:53:10 PM
Must we have another fight in this thread? This will be two in one week. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 04:56:57 PM
Must we have another fight in this thread? This will be two in one week. :wacko:
I'm not exactly happy about it either. I am just playing (as Ana calls it) spot the fail.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 17, 2009, 05:03:40 PM
/me sighs

And apparently playing "Spot the Fail" makes Tyler upset for some odd reason. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 05:05:31 PM
/me sighs

And apparently playing "Spot the Fail" makes Tyler upset for some odd reason. :rolleyes:
You're telling me  <_<
NEVER a good idea to pair someone who is as much against HiRAD as it gets with someone who actually supports it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 17, 2009, 05:24:39 PM
I think you're missing the point. HiRAD's "guess" isn't wrong - as it almost matches the NWS ob from that site. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 17, 2009, 05:57:13 PM
Technically, they could. It would be a half-assed job, but they could, They never would do it that way though.
So, how were all the IntelliStars able to display three-city LDL's in one day? Were they all added ahead of time, and then all the IntelliStars rebooted this morning?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on July 17, 2009, 06:07:34 PM
The intelliSTAR for my area is showing current conditions for more than 1 location.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 17, 2009, 06:34:29 PM
Technically, they could. It would be a half-assed job, but they could, They never would do it that way though.
So, how were all the IntelliStars able to display three-city LDL's in one day? Were they all added ahead of time, and then all the IntelliStars rebooted this morning?

thats the thing...not all stars have that feature. mine doesn't.  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 17, 2009, 07:03:12 PM
Maybe they're going in order by STAR ID or something. Mine is 22884, so its definitely one of the early STARs. If this is the case, I would expect your STAR Al, to receive this update within the coming days..

On a totally different subject, is anyone familiar with a 'mountain snow valley rain' icon from the XL's icon set?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 17, 2009, 07:38:31 PM
Maybe they're going in order by STAR ID or something. Mine is 22884, so its definitely one of the early STARs. If this is the case, I would expect your STAR Al, to receive this update within the coming days..

On a totally different subject, is anyone familiar with a 'mountain snow valley rain' icon from the XL's icon set?
No, have you seen one?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on July 17, 2009, 07:49:06 PM
I just realized something odd on my intellistar's LDL. As of this morning, it's showing the current conditions for Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley, and Soquel (which has never shown up on the LF before). I wasn't aware that the LDL could show conditions for 3 cities like that.. :unsure:
For me, it's shows Laredo, Hebbronville, and Freer on the current conditions/today tabs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on July 17, 2009, 07:53:19 PM
Technically, they could. It would be a half-assed job, but they could, They never would do it that way though.
So, how were all the IntelliStars able to display three-city LDL's in one day? Were they all added ahead of time, and then all the IntelliStars rebooted this morning?
my STAR rebooted last night, I saw it happen live during Weather Center, lol.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 17, 2009, 08:24:26 PM
My IS still only displays one city's current conditions on the LDL, and it's ID is 22608, a low-numbered IS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 17, 2009, 08:45:03 PM
Hm, I started noticing something odd with my IS...whenever an advisory (including watches/warnings) is issued, the star displays it on the LDL/IS fine, but whenever the advisory is lifted/expired I get the Satellite LF shortly after.

we haven't had many advisory's issued this summer, but when we did have advisories this happened.

i started thinking about it after an advisory was issued for rain the in area, left for a while, came back and the Satellite LF was being displayed.

maybe it's just me :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 17, 2009, 08:48:41 PM
Mine has been updated since june 29th seen here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgUdECjC_5Y&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgUdECjC_5Y&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 17, 2009, 09:01:54 PM
I've had three cities on the LDL since June 2, 08, and has only had one alteration (that same day, too...I think.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 17, 2009, 09:05:25 PM
No, have you seen one?
I haven't seen it, but someone told me that it exists. I would imagine it was used back when the NWS forecasts were used, because I've never seen TWC issue a forecast like that.. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 17, 2009, 10:15:54 PM
I'm looking at the E.L. Intellistar tonight, and I am noticing something odd. Haslett and Downtown Lansing were added to the now tab on the LDL. However, in the forecast tabs, it rotates from East Lansing to Lansing then shows East Lansing a second time before the next tab moves over.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: brbjambajuice on July 17, 2009, 11:41:52 PM
I just noticed this but it had to be recent, 2 cities added to the current conditions, tomorrows forecast and tonights forecast tab on the LDL (I have never heard of Hufsmith, TX) :
(http://h.imagehost.org/0507/Hufsmith.jpg)
(http://h.imagehost.org/0463/Spring.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 17, 2009, 11:54:03 PM
Technically, they could. It would be a half-assed job, but they could, They never would do it that way though.
So, how were all the IntelliStars able to display three-city LDL's in one day? Were they all added ahead of time, and then all the IntelliStars rebooted this morning?
No, they might just being adding a while bunch now. It has to be done on a STAR-by-STAR basis, unless they deploy the cities by DMA, but that wouldn't make sense, and they're obviously not doing that anyway.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 18, 2009, 12:24:40 AM
After checking on some things, here's what I now know. When the LDL update came in '08, the additional cities were added to only the IntelliStars with the largest viewing areas, as well as all the STARs in the Atlanta and Pittsburgh DMAs. Over time, some more were added (in no order). Now, they are starting to go through and add cities to more and more IntelliStars. Hope that clears things up for some of you.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 18, 2009, 12:33:22 AM
After checking on some things, here's what I now know. When the LDL update came in '08, the additional cities were added to only the IntelliStars with the largest viewing areas, as well as all the STARs in the Atlanta and Pittsburgh DMAs. Over time, some more were added (in no order). Now, they are starting to go through and add cities to more and more IntelliStars. Hope that clears things up for some of you.

that makes sense  :yes:, as of sometime tonight the feature has been added to my star.  B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 18, 2009, 12:46:36 AM
Which cities, Al?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 18, 2009, 08:54:29 AM
Some nasty cells came through my area this morning
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 18, 2009, 02:19:30 PM
Mike, as I look at the satellite image, I think I found the location of your Intellistar unit:

1250 Berlin Rd, Cherry Hill, NJ
(856) 354-1660

Hope this helps  :wave:
I looked up Comcast offices near Fort Dix and the headend that houses Mount Holly's star would have to be in either Browns Mills or Pemberton, as those are the closest buildings nearby. The building that houses the Burlington IntelliStar I received is in Willingboro.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on July 18, 2009, 03:11:51 PM
You know the multiple cities on the ldl is logical! I really like it now that I have it. My STAR covers multiple cities. Nice to have it mention through those cities now

Downtown Norfolk, VA Beach, Chesapeake
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 18, 2009, 03:15:32 PM
Yeah, I've been wanting to ask the STAR team about adding multiple cities to my LDL for awhile, but they have so many requests pending right now I didn't want to bother.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 18, 2009, 03:32:58 PM
Hmm, odd, I see the 3:28 PM EDT LF went right to the Local Radar screen, skipping the Regional Radar segment after the front page CC. Since when does that happen?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on July 18, 2009, 04:06:45 PM
You know the multiple cities on the ldl is logical! I really like it now that I have it. My STAR covers multiple cities. Nice to have it mention through those cities now

Downtown Norfolk, VA Beach, Chesapeake

I noticed this too. The cities are Downtown Phoenix/Phoenix Area, Phoenix, and Mesa. This implementation really is bad (I'd say it should be Phoenix, Glendale, and Mesa) because of the duplication between the first two.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 18, 2009, 07:39:09 PM
Which cities, Al?

San Antonio, Universal City, and Helotes...all on the northside, i just realized that.  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 18, 2009, 11:09:01 PM
I saw the Richmond FiOS IS, and the cities are: Downtown Richmond; Chester, VA; and Richmond :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 19, 2009, 01:02:44 AM
I saw the Richmond FiOS IS, and the cities are: Downtown Richmond; Chester, VA; and Richmond :huh:
Are you going to get some Weatherscan clips too while you're there?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 19, 2009, 01:17:29 AM
Zach, Al, and Raymie, I would create a thread in Tech Support about your cities. Al, it doesn't seem logical that all 3 cities should be on the north side of the viewing area, and the other two have duplicate cities.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 19, 2009, 01:51:32 AM
As mentioned earlier,
I'm looking at the E.L. Intellistar tonight, and I am noticing something odd. Haslett and Downtown Lansing were added to the now tab on the LDL. However, in the forecast tabs, it rotates from East Lansing to Lansing then shows East Lansing a second time before the next tab moves over.

I am looking at the E.L. Intellistar again tonight, and I am noticing a rather strange error. Last night, Falsepoint was guessing 0.5" for the month of July thus far on the Local Forecasts. However, it was guessing 0.45" under the almanac tab during nat'l broadcasts. At first, I thought it could have just been an adjustment, but it was consistent. I came back tonight to record the error, and I notice it updated, but the problem is still ongoing. Falsepoint is now guessing 0.52" for the month during the Local Forecasts, and 0.46" under the almanac tab during nat'l broadcasts. Perhaps it could be two different sites?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 19, 2009, 02:00:40 AM
Could be... I'd shoot a notification to the Star Team about it, though it may take awhile with all of those other requests on their hands.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 19, 2009, 03:15:41 PM
Hmmm, this IntelliSTAR's logo is off from the actual TWC logo. :hmm: :thinking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxN-Ytt8bEE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxN-Ytt8bEE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 19, 2009, 06:21:24 PM
Here are some Richmond IntelliSTAR clips. Please rate them and I should have another batch to record and upload Thursday. :)

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B6AA9054B1F43691 (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B6AA9054B1F43691)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 19, 2009, 11:12:00 PM
Did anyone's cities on the LDL duplicate a city already on the local observation screen...does that defeat the purpose, or was that the main idea?

Also Tyler, as suggested I did make a topic.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on July 19, 2009, 11:16:44 PM
Al, having Phoenix Area and Phoenix on the same LDL is a waste of time and graphics.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 20, 2009, 12:33:33 AM
Did anyone's cities on the LDL duplicate a city already on the local observation screen...does that defeat the purpose, or was that the main idea?

That is perfectly fine. For example, on my FiOS STAR, both Bethel Park and Penn Hills are on the local obs screen, and on the LDL. There's no problem unless there is a duplicate city on the LDL, for example a Downtown location, and then a generic city location without the "downtown" moniker.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 20, 2009, 12:55:24 AM
Did anyone's cities on the LDL duplicate a city already on the local observation screen...does that defeat the purpose, or was that the main idea?

That is perfectly fine. For example, on my FiOS STAR, both Bethel Park and Penn Hills are on the local obs screen, and on the LDL. There's no problem unless there is a duplicate city on the LDL, for example a Downtown location, and then a generic city location without the "downtown" moniker.

alrighty then =]
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 20, 2009, 01:56:13 PM
Lower Bucks IntelliStar has Center City and Bordentown, NJ as it's cities. Center City is okay, but not Bordentown as its far off the forecast area and not a commen travel destination. I'd have Bensalem on there instead.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 20, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
Has anyone been getting any dual-feed updates lately? I haven't been getting any since late 2007 and was wondering if the recent layoffs have prevented them from doing dual feed updates.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 20, 2009, 05:52:38 PM
Has anyone been getting any dual-feed updates lately? I haven't been getting any since late 2007 and was wondering if the recent layoffs have prevented them from doing dual feed updates.
One of the last ones I remember seeing was on July 30, 2008.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 20, 2009, 07:08:32 PM
The last time I saw them do one was in early 2008, I haven't seen any since. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 20, 2009, 07:30:47 PM
Since when did "windy" become a condition on it's own during the current condition screen?

"Currently in our area...97 Degrees with windy conditions"

isn't it usually associated with the sky condition as well?

"Currently in our area...97 Degrees under cloudy skies with windy conditions"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 20, 2009, 10:29:24 PM
Since when did "windy" become a condition on it's own during the current condition screen?

"Currently in our area...97 Degrees with windy conditions"

isn't it usually associated with the sky condition as well?

"Currently in our area...97 Degrees under cloudy skies with windy conditions"
That's a rare one. I have one video from a long time ago with just windy as a condition somewhere...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on July 20, 2009, 11:32:57 PM
Lower Bucks IntelliStar has Center City and Bordentown, NJ as it's cities. Center City is okay, but not Bordentown as its far off the forecast area and not a commen travel destination. I'd have Bensalem on there instead.
The Camden IntelliStar has Camden, NJ, Moorestown, NJ, and Bordentown, NJ as the 3 cities.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 21, 2009, 12:03:37 AM
I have the same additional cities on my Mount Holly STAR, Jesse.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 21, 2009, 01:30:06 AM
Odd........
The 1:28 AM EDT LF (with my favorite overnite song, SOYCD) began with a satellite LF for a second. What is strange is that the LDL cued before the STAR  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 21, 2009, 06:41:49 PM
Odd........
The 1:28 AM EDT LF (with my favorite overnite song, SOYCD) began with a satellite LF for a second. What is strange is that the LDL cued before the STAR  :blink:
The STAR is capable of producing a local forecast on top of the national LDL. I've seen it before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 21, 2009, 07:01:21 PM
Odd........
The 1:28 AM EDT LF (with my favorite overnite song, SOYCD) began with a satellite LF for a second. What is strange is that the LDL cued before the STAR  :blink:
The STAR is capable of producing a local forecast on top of the national LDL. I've seen it before.
I obviously haven't though. I didn't know that was possible. Did all STARs do this at that time?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 21, 2009, 10:50:28 PM
Lower Bucks IntelliStar has Center City and Bordentown, NJ as it's cities. Center City is okay, but not Bordentown as its far off the forecast area and not a commen travel destination. I'd have Bensalem on there instead.
The Camden IntelliStar has Camden, NJ, Moorestown, NJ, and Bordentown, NJ as the 3 cities.
Teterboro's has the mentioned city, Morristown, and Dover. I think Fort Lee and Dumont are better locations IMO.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 21, 2009, 11:31:56 PM
FYI... after some checking around, each STAR had the extra two LDL cities added individually. They were not done in a mass-DMA deployment.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 21, 2009, 11:42:42 PM
FYI... after some checking around, each STAR had the extra two LDL cities added individually. They were not done in a mass-DMA deployment.

i don't think the star team liked my suggestion to change the cities that are all on the northside. lol  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 21, 2009, 11:51:02 PM
They might not of gotten to it yet, Al. And, before any changes are made, they have to finish adding cities to all the STARs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 22, 2009, 10:13:05 PM
After seeing two orange crawls tonight (one for a Special Weather Statement and one for a Flood Advisory), it seems that orange crawls on the IntelliStar now last 20 minutes instead of 10 minutes as before. Not sure if this also effects yellow Severe Thunderstorm Watch crawls.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 22, 2009, 10:21:10 PM
Here are 3 cities featured on the Teterboro IS LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 22, 2009, 11:13:54 PM
Dover, NJ? Never heard of that. How about Somerville, Newark, or Paterson instead?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 23, 2009, 12:49:21 AM
Mike, just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean anything. Like I said, each city was picked individually for each STAR. The cities on the LDL are certainly in the viewing area of the particular STAR in question.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 23, 2009, 02:18:28 AM
Does anyone have a clip of Daywin by Bobby Love from the January 2008 playlist?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 23, 2009, 09:39:15 AM
Is this the song? (1:11) I been looking for it for about a year now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J5SJBEAfyk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J5SJBEAfyk#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 23, 2009, 11:21:47 AM
That sounds like it, it's a good song but I can't find it anywhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 23, 2009, 04:34:51 PM
Here are some screenshots of the title bar glitch I noticed on my Local Forecast this morning. I would think this was an issue exclusive to my unit, but because it lasted almost exactly 30 seconds, I am beginning to wonder if this was a nat'l issue.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on July 23, 2009, 04:47:13 PM
usually issues like that are with the unit itself, as a matter a fact it's a known issue...just differently.

some stars have experienced blank (black) graphics with the title bar showing, this happens to be reversed.
i'm also never up in the morning so it could have been a national issue too. haha  :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 23, 2009, 06:47:19 PM
Well, I came back to my dad's house in Haslett for a few minutes. I see the Falsepoint error is still ongoing. Now, here is what the info looks like:

Data displayed on the LF
East Lansing  Jul Precip: 1.8"

Data displayed under the Almanac tab on the LDL during nat'l broadcasts
East Lansing  Jul Precip: 2.19"

So, both numbers keep updating, but continue to remain inconsistent. This must mean that two different sites are being used. This error has been ongoing for at least a week, AFAIK. I see the Forecast tabs were updated. East Lansing no longer shows up twice. "Dwntwn Lansing" was changed to "Lansing", and Okemos replaced Haslett, which does not make me happy. As soon as I transfer files that I am recording to my desktop, I will post screenshots here and notify the STAR team.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 23, 2009, 06:51:22 PM
That sounds like an issue you may want to bring up with the STAR Team. I think it's the STAR recieving wrong data, not TruPOINT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 23, 2009, 07:01:18 PM
Here's the Latest Advisories due to the ongoing storm coming to New England
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 23, 2009, 08:35:46 PM
Okay, I finally got screenshots of the Falsepoint error with the E.L. headend. I will be notifying the STAR team momentarily about it.

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4706/pict200907230800228.jpg)

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/474/pict200907230800328.jpg)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6167/pict200907230800548.jpg)

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/114/pict200907230801078.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 23, 2009, 10:07:11 PM
To me, it seems they have two different dicast points set, with one obviously labeled wrong.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on July 24, 2009, 03:11:28 PM
My "False"Point went from 0.18" to 0.1". Literally.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 24, 2009, 08:50:57 PM
They changed the cities on my LDL, it used to be Downtown Atlanta, College Park, and Dunwoody, but now it's Atlanta, Marietta, and Decatur. They took Downtown out on the LDL, but the IntelliStar is still labeled as "Downtown Atlanta". I don't get what was wrong with College Park and Dunwoody being on the LDL, but whatever I guess.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on July 25, 2009, 04:38:37 PM
The Radar Satellite no longer has the time lapse bar. It had continued to have the bar even after the 2007 IS relaunch when they were removed from the local and regional radar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 25, 2009, 05:17:52 PM
The Radar Satellite no longer has the time lapse bar. It had continued to have the bar even after the 2007 IS relaunch when they were removed from the local and regional radar.
The time lapse bar will not appear if there is not a full five hours of radar or satellite data present.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 25, 2009, 05:37:59 PM
Well, as seen in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPRuGxz-T24# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPRuGxz-T24#)

The narration is continuing to have skipping issues during the text based segment. It usually occurs on and off, lasting for several hours, then on a hiatus for a couple days before returning once again. However, it has been happening for the past week. The narration skips, and this slows down the Local Forecast, thus prolonging it and making it last from a half a second to as much as 5 seconds past the music. The error is only during the text based and ends before the Week Ahead segment. Is this happening to anyone else? This seems to be exclusive to my unit. I have heard it on the E.L. unit, but it does not happen as often on that unit nor is it as significant.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 26, 2009, 05:01:34 PM
My IntelliStar played "When Summer Comes" by George Howard from it's internal playlist at 4:59 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 26, 2009, 05:02:09 PM
My IntelliStar played "When Summer Comes" by George Howard from it's internal playlist at 4:59 PM ET.
Can you post a clip of it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 26, 2009, 05:09:13 PM
My IntelliStar played "When Summer Comes" by George Howard from it's internal playlist at 4:59 PM ET.

It's must have been only on your IS, I heard Layla on my IS at that time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 26, 2009, 05:18:09 PM
My IntelliStar played "When Summer Comes" by George Howard from it's internal playlist at 4:59 PM ET.
That song is in the IntelliStar's "alternate" built-in playlist that is typically used for dual-feed coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on July 26, 2009, 05:21:26 PM
My IntelliStar played "When Summer Comes" by George Howard from it's internal playlist at 4:59 PM ET.
Get a clip of it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 26, 2009, 05:58:49 PM
My IntelliStar played "When Summer Comes" by George Howard from it's internal playlist at 4:59 PM ET.
That song is in the IntelliStar's "alternate" built-in playlist that is typically used for dual-feed coverage.
Yes, hence why I said "internal playlist". ;) There was no dual-feed update after the LF, however. But there was one at 4PM, I didn't get a clip of that.

Yes, I did record it. I'll have it up tomorrow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 26, 2009, 06:14:10 PM
Well, the saga of changes to the E.L. Intellistar continues. I was over there for a couple hours, and noticed a few things. Lansing replaced Okemos, and Haslett was added. So now, the cycle under the now and forecast tabs is East Lansing> Haslett> Lansing. If they would replace Lansing with Okemos, that would be nice. Falsepoint was updated, so both numbers provided on the LF and under the almanac tab are consistent. I barely caught a glimpse of the regional map, but I saw that Hamilton was replaced with London on the regional map. Finally, the almanac title was changed, so it appears as "Lansing Capital Reg. Int'l Arpt". However, nothing was changed on the Lansing unit.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 26, 2009, 06:15:25 PM
Did you check to see if "Channel 40" was added to the station ID?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 26, 2009, 06:16:38 PM
Did you check to see if "Channel 40" was added to the station ID?
No, I was only able to watch the 5:18 and 5:28 LFs as I finished the lawn around 5:10 and left at 5:30. I hope to be going back over there tomorrow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 26, 2009, 06:32:42 PM
My LDL's cities changed too...from two major cities to two smaller cities (and one city that isn't even served by the STAR, too...)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 26, 2009, 06:42:11 PM
looks like my star was one of the last ones to get the Tab Update for Severe Weather.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 26, 2009, 07:17:51 PM
looks like my star was one of the last ones to get the Tab Update for Severe Weather.
Am I missing something? That's what you'd normally see (the watch crawl, and then it'll display on the normal LDL). :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 26, 2009, 07:28:42 PM
looks like my star was one of the last ones to get the Tab Update for Severe Weather.
Am I missing something? That's what you'd normally see (the watch crawl, and then it'll display on the normal LDL). :unsure:

I never got that Tab Before so thats why i suspected that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 26, 2009, 08:00:50 PM
Road to Venlo by David Becker on my IntelliStar at 7:58, now getting a dual-feed update.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 26, 2009, 08:02:40 PM
Road to Venlo by David Becker on my IntelliStar at 7:58, now getting a dual-feed update.
I'm confused. What does this mean? Nothing is happening to my Intellistar,
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 26, 2009, 08:05:27 PM
It only happened to IntelliStars here. Road to Venlo is a song in the IntelliStar's internal playlist, which is used when the system is about to show a local weather update (due to severe weather in the area).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 26, 2009, 08:07:12 PM
It only happened to IntelliStars here. Road to Venlo is a song in the IntelliStar's internal playlist, which is used when the system is about to show a local weather update (due to severe weather in the area).

They still do that? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 26, 2009, 08:10:44 PM
Yeah, apparently. It's the first time I've seen it happen since late 2007.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 26, 2009, 08:59:12 PM
Yeah, apparently. It's the first time I've seen it happen since late 2007.

I have the backup list too it was craig chaquico it 8:28
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 26, 2009, 10:15:18 PM
I never got that Tab Before so thats why i suspected that.
That tab has existed since this LDL format premiered. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 27, 2009, 10:02:21 AM
WTF? Since when did the flavors at :58 turn into 1 minute? The one at 9:58 was only 1 min. Have they just completely gotten rid of 2 minute flavors?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 27, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
WTF? Since when did the flavors at :58 turn into 1 minute? The one at 9:58 was only 1 min. Have they just completely gotten rid of 2 minute flavors?  :dunno:
I'm pretty sure that's just a WUWA thing: I believe it was a 1 minute flavor at that time last week, too. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 27, 2009, 11:56:18 AM
No, I'm pretty sure there was a two minute flavor at :58 last week. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 27, 2009, 11:58:48 AM
Day Planner still has two minute flavors at :28/:58
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 27, 2009, 11:59:08 AM
New Weatherstar XL at North Bend/Coos Bay, OR...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuXaHh-HWSk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuXaHh-HWSk#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 27, 2009, 12:01:35 PM
ohh, nice find!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TV Shows Fan on July 27, 2009, 12:17:51 PM
On my ldl bar for the multiple cities Hamburg was removed and Tonawanda was added.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 27, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
oh at 5:58am a One min also came on  :censored:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 27, 2009, 08:25:31 PM
Well, I am back in Lansing. I finally managed to get recordings, and I caught the 6:58 PM EDT station ID. I see the station ID is now completely blank. No Comcast logo at all, no channel number, no STAR ID. However, the radio station/newspaper info is working properly. The regional map was shifted northwest, and looks exactly like the Lansing regional map, with London added. I wonder if the STAR team mistook the changes I requested to be done on 22840 and made them to 22842.......  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 27, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
Ok now TWC decides to change the ldl cities again from Fall River, and Wareham to Somerset and East Wareham. whats the point?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 27, 2009, 08:52:55 PM
Ok now TWC decides to change the ldl cities again from Fall River, and Wareham to Somerset and East Wareham. whats the point?
Hmm... why the use of minor cities? I'm pretty sure Fall River and Wareham are more populated, and are both served by your headend.

Still no changes on either of my STARs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on July 27, 2009, 08:54:33 PM
Whoa, I have multiple cities on my Intellistar's LDL now, rather than just Taunton.

It now does conditions/forecasts for Attleboro (my city)/Somerset/Taunton.

Really cool addition.

When was the last time I applauded TWC?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 27, 2009, 09:00:30 PM
Ok now TWC decides to change the ldl cities again from Fall River, and Wareham to Somerset and East Wareham. whats the point?
Hmm... why the use of minor cities? I'm pretty sure Fall River and Wareham are more populated, and are both served by your headend.

Still no changes on either of my STARs.

I don't why they would do that if the other cities were perfectly fine.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 27, 2009, 09:36:17 PM
I also see London was added to the regional map in Lansing!  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 27, 2009, 10:11:47 PM
I also see London was added to the regional map in Lansing!  :blink:
Was that something you requested to the STAR team, Aaron?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 27, 2009, 10:39:32 PM
Ok now TWC decides to change the ldl cities again from Fall River, and Wareham to Somerset and East Wareham. whats the point?
Hmm... why the use of minor cities? I'm pretty sure Fall River and Wareham are more populated, and are both served by your headend.

Still no changes on either of my STARs.

I don't why they would do that if the other cities were perfectly fine.

They may of been requested by a viewer.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 27, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
I also see London was added to the regional map in Lansing!  :blink:
Was that something you requested to the STAR team, Aaron?
Yes, it was. They have implemented some of my requests, but have not done so with others and have made changes that were not needed as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wstarcraze on July 28, 2009, 01:06:36 PM
Apparently the NWS site closest to my location gives new observations every 30 minutes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 28, 2009, 03:54:31 PM
Ok now TWC decides to change the ldl cities again from Fall River, and Wareham to Somerset and East Wareham. whats the point?
Hmm... why the use of minor cities? I'm pretty sure Fall River and Wareham are more populated, and are both served by your headend.

Still no changes on either of my STARs.

I don't why they would do that if the other cities were perfectly fine.

They may of been requested by a viewer.

Maybe, but i put on twc now and i see Fall River and Wareham again   :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 28, 2009, 04:04:47 PM
Could it of been another STAR your headend was pulling accidentally? This happens to me sometimes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 28, 2009, 04:11:20 PM
Could it of been another STAR your headend was pulling accidentally? This happens to me sometimes.

I'm right next to Somerset (1/4 mile away) so your right mike it could of been that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 28, 2009, 05:08:04 PM
That hasn't happened to me, even though my headend (and also where I live further north) is almost right on the eastern edge of the area, the only time I can ever remember my STAR pulling in data from another headend was in summer 2006 when it pulled in the E.L. headend.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on July 28, 2009, 06:12:11 PM
That hasn't happened to me, even though my headend (and also where I live further north) is almost right on the eastern edge of the area, the only time I can ever remember my STAR pulling in data from another headend was in summer 2006 when it pulled in the E.L. headend.
It seems to be happening to me today, Lawrenceburg and Versailles changed to Lexington and Nicholasville (Which is just south of Lexington)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 28, 2009, 06:44:49 PM
My IntelliStar's LDL cities have just changed from Bordentown and Moorestown to Fort Dix and Cinnaminson.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 28, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
My IntelliStar's LDL cities have just changed from Bordentown and Moorestown to Fort Dix and Cinnaminson.
21872 or 21884?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 28, 2009, 07:07:16 PM
My IntelliStar's LDL cities have just changed from Bordentown and Moorestown to Fort Dix and Cinnaminson.


Might be a test rollout on certain stars (it only occurred one day for me).

The only reason i want Fall River on the LDL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFPHCA8o39s&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFPHCA8o39s&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 29, 2009, 08:37:09 AM
Apparently now LF flavors that were initially only with WUWA are standard in the morning as I noticed the 8 city guesses segment at 8:18 AM EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 29, 2009, 10:56:54 AM
Apparently now LF flavors that were initially only with WUWA are standard in the morning as I noticed the 8 city guesses segment at 8:18 AM EDT
AFAIK, they've always been like that. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 29, 2009, 11:27:32 AM
Apparently now LF flavors that were initially only with WUWA are standard in the morning as I noticed the 8 city guesses segment at 8:18 AM EDT
AFAIK, they've always been like that. :yes:
Well then, it could just be that I am usually asleep at that time  :rofl2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on July 29, 2009, 03:12:47 PM
My Additional Cities changed today to Shelbyville and Versailles, in response to some changes I requested the STAR team do. I'll try to have videos later.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 29, 2009, 06:03:45 PM
A couple of nights ago when I stayed near Savannah, I did get a capture of the local Transitions ad insert, and I'm surprised to see it cued because all other ad inserts were the national ones on this STAR. :thinking:

(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab313/TWCZach/General%20TWC%20Pics/transitionslocaltwc.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 29, 2009, 06:04:43 PM
As of today, the regional maps have returned to my IS!!! :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 29, 2009, 07:32:29 PM
A couple of nights ago when I stayed near Savannah, I did get a capture of the local Transitions ad insert, and I'm surprised to see it cued because all other ad inserts were the national ones on this STAR. :thinking:

([url]http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab313/TWCZach/General%20TWC%20Pics/transitionslocaltwc.jpg[/url])


Only certain metros get certain inserts. The UV index is available everywhere, however.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 30, 2009, 05:40:08 PM
I noticed earlier today that 24130 is the STAR on DirecTV instead of 24131. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 30, 2009, 07:01:10 PM
Well, I am over at my dad's for a few minutes again, and I see the station ID was fixed and all information (STAR ID, Comcast logo, radio/newspaper info, and yes, finally, the Channel #) is displaying properly.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 30, 2009, 09:18:27 PM
Now checking the Lower Bucks STAR, and Bordentown was replaced with Bensalem as the third LDL city. Also, the main forecast title on the LDL changed from Lower Bucks to Levittown, as did the UV Index (formerly Lower Bucks) and Air Quality (formerly Philadelphia) sections. However, the Air Quality Forecast screen on the LOT8's still says "Philadelphia Area."  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 31, 2009, 05:42:02 PM
First long text on my star's 36hr

http://a.imagehost.org/0627/fullgra1.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/0627/fullgra1.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 31, 2009, 05:49:01 PM
First long text on my star's 36hr

[url]http://a.imagehost.org/0627/fullgra1.jpg[/url] ([url]http://a.imagehost.org/0627/fullgra1.jpg[/url])


 :thinking: I didn't know the text goes past the 7th line on this IntelliStar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 31, 2009, 06:03:47 PM
First long text on my star's 36hr

[url]http://a.imagehost.org/0627/fullgra1.jpg[/url] ([url]http://a.imagehost.org/0627/fullgra1.jpg[/url])


 :thinking: I didn't know the text goes past the 7th line on this IntelliStar.

It can happen as I think I have seen it on my unit as well. That is an interesting forecast and I must admit it is rare to see that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 31, 2009, 06:07:28 PM
It would be really interesting if the text forecast was so long it had go over to the next page like the XL did.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 31, 2009, 06:16:44 PM
It would be really interesting if the text forecast was so long it had go over to the next page like the XL did.
I'm sure TWC makes sure to make the text based as short as they possibly can, but sometimes, they can only simplify it so much. I highly doubt though that the text would be allowed to go to two pages.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lightning86 on July 31, 2009, 07:39:17 PM
Yeah, me too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on July 31, 2009, 09:59:37 PM
Tavores, the text taking up the entire screen has happened to me to, as seen in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBf-poSe6yE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBf-poSe6yE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 31, 2009, 10:13:59 PM
Tavores, the text taking up the entire screen has happened to me to, as seen in this video:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBf-poSe6yE#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBf-poSe6yE#[/url])


Ok, next time there's any major weather event, I'll see if I catch a long forecast like that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 01, 2009, 06:01:28 AM
Has Anyone ever gotten a Weird Ceiling Reading on their istar before?

I just got 10100 ft for a reading
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 01, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
Has Anyone ever gotten a Weird Ceiling Reading on their istar before?

I just got 10100 ft for a reading
Yes, I saw 18,600 feet yesterday evening on mine.  Ceilings are estimated in 100-foot increments.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 01, 2009, 05:52:57 PM
Just caught this morning on my Star

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkIXj2BNEI8&fmt=18# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkIXj2BNEI8&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 01, 2009, 09:42:05 PM
Is the radar down on anyone's IS? Mine is and there's a line of thunerstorms coming in from AL.  <_< :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 01, 2009, 10:15:37 PM
Is the radar down on anyone's IS? Mine is and there's a line of thunerstorms coming in from AL.  <_< :rolleyes:
Yes, mine is too. Down for the past 2 hours of frames
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 01, 2009, 10:18:20 PM
Is the radar down on anyone's IS? Mine is and there's a line of thunerstorms coming in from AL.  <_< :rolleyes:
Yes, mine is too. Down for the past 2 hours of frames

10:52pm - Damn, it's out again. :angry:
That sucks! It's been down about the same amount of time here too. I have to go to the NWS for radar data, I gotta know when these storms are coming in, they look kinda nasty from the last time I saw them on TWC.

EDIT: The radar is back as of 10:29pm EDT, but only as one frame.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on August 01, 2009, 11:19:46 PM
Is the radar down on anyone's IS? Mine is and there's a line of thunerstorms coming in from AL.  <_< :rolleyes:
Yes, mine is too. Down for the past 2 hours of frames

10:52pm - Damn, it's out again. :angry:
That sucks! It's been down about the same amount of time here too. I have to go to the NWS for radar data, I gotta know when these storms are coming in, they look kinda nasty from the last time I saw them on TWC.

EDIT: The radar is back as of 10:29pm EDT, but only as one frame.
Mine has been very sporadic all day, since about 4:00 PM
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 04, 2009, 02:11:41 PM
Looks like Chris Geith's music will be on the radio this Friday at 2 PM EST.

More here: http://twitter.com/ChrisGeith/status/2899533534 (http://twitter.com/ChrisGeith/status/2899533534)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 07, 2009, 12:08:47 PM
For a time this morning, the LF music was distorted and full of static.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 07, 2009, 06:20:10 PM
For a time this morning, the LF music was distorted and full of static.
oh, I actually thought that was an issue with the Intellistar I was seeing in the Detroit area. I had thought it could be an error on part of TWC, but assumed it was the STAR since it was having all kinds of audio and video issues that morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on August 08, 2009, 01:27:57 AM
I just realized something odd on my intellistar's LDL. As of this morning, it's showing the current conditions for Santa Cruz, Scotts Valley, and Soquel (which has never shown up on the LF before). I wasn't aware that the LDL could show conditions for 3 cities like that.. :unsure:
For me, it's shows Laredo, Hebbronville, and Freer on the current conditions/today tabs.
For New Braunfels, TX, it's shows San Marcos and Seguin.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 09, 2009, 11:41:13 AM
XL from Bremerton WA
http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/43/snapshot_13372943.jpg (http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/43/snapshot_13372943.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 09, 2009, 12:17:47 PM
Nice find!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 09, 2009, 12:22:23 PM
Bremerton, WA isn't mentioned in Wikipedia's XL list, so it would be a new find.  Where did you find that picture?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 09, 2009, 12:27:51 PM
Bremerton, WA isn't mentioned in Wikipedia's XL list, so it would be a new find.  Where did you find that picture?

http://silicondust.com (http://silicondust.com)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 10, 2009, 12:43:31 PM
I just noticed this, but the fonts on my DirecTV LF have changed. :blink:


Before:
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab313/TWCZach/General%20TWC%20Pics/fonts2.jpg)

After:
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab313/TWCZach/General%20TWC%20Pics/font1.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on August 10, 2009, 03:44:29 PM
Did you change receivers?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on August 10, 2009, 08:44:39 PM
The HD receivers got upgraded about a month ago, and in turn, the fonts changed
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 10, 2009, 08:52:04 PM
It looks more clear, but it's also a little more jaggity.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 10, 2009, 08:53:48 PM
It was a DirecTV HD reciever and always has been one. :yes:

It looks more clear, but it's also a little more jaggity.
The jagged seems to happen with my Pinnacle when I record with it for some reason. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 10, 2009, 09:40:44 PM
The second one is clearer, but there is no visible difference in the text :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 10, 2009, 10:34:16 PM
The second one is clearer, but there is no visible difference in the text :no:
In the first screenshot, all the text is shifted up a few pixels. It's noticeable in the "For ZIP 33592" line.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 11, 2009, 01:07:45 AM
Has anyone had their istar fritzing yesterday-today? mine has had audio skipping during the lf and the video screwing up during both long form and national programming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 11, 2009, 09:03:19 AM
Has anyone had their Intellistar fritzing yesterday-today? mine has had audio skipping during the lf and the video screwing up during both long form and national programming.
This seems to be a national issue from what I have been told, and has been ongoing for some time now. It always happens to my unit.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on August 12, 2009, 02:38:28 PM
Here are the two clips of the New Braunfels, TX IntelliSTAR (ID#24716). Sorry that both clips are one minute favors. Both were taken at a hotel in Seguin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEtfxQYquoU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEtfxQYquoU#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3UWd05JS6I# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3UWd05JS6I#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 12, 2009, 03:44:40 PM
Thanks  again for those Wonderful clips Felix!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 13, 2009, 06:45:25 AM
Back in the daze of legit CC reports, did the icon set change based on what the station reports? Or did they change as the location reaches sunrise or sunset times? I notice London on my regional map is still reporting clear skies with a moon, when every other city beside Chicago and Milwaukee are guessing sunny skies. Are they supposed to change based on when each location reaches sunrise/sunset?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 13, 2009, 01:53:48 PM
My area would be sporadic when it came to the sunrise and sunset on the CC, CC regional and metro. so it might be the second theory.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 13, 2009, 06:29:02 PM
Automated stations will report "clear" whether it's day or night.  So, I'm pretty sure that the sunrise and sunset times are used to distinguish between "sunny" for daytime and "clear" for nighttime.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 13, 2009, 06:32:19 PM
Automated stations will report "clear" whether it's day or night.  So, I'm pretty sure that the sunrise and sunset times are used to distinguish between "sunny" for daytime and "clear" for nighttime.
Actually, the day/night icons are based on civil twilight.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 13, 2009, 06:43:45 PM
Automated stations will report "clear" whether it's day or night.  So, I'm pretty sure that the sunrise and sunset times are used to distinguish between "sunny" for daytime and "clear" for nighttime.
Actually, the day/night icons are based on civil twilight.
That's interesting.  I find it a little odd that a sunny icon would be showing while you can't see the sun as it either hasn't risen yet or has already set, but it doesn't make that much of a difference overall.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 13, 2009, 06:48:50 PM
Yeah, that's what the STAR team said awhile back, as well as Bill when he was developing the 4000 emulator.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 13, 2009, 07:41:48 PM
Actually, the day/night icons are based on civil twilight.
Civil Twilight?

I also had another question. When I was in Romulus, I did manage to see the metro map (both guesses and forecast). I noticed Essex, Ontario was on the forecast metro map, but not on the CC metro map. I notice that there are no Mexican cities on Felix's Intellistar either. Is the metro map not capable of showing legit reports from international cities even if they are right there?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 14, 2009, 02:59:15 AM
Just found this looks like thats all that city headend can fit up top!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 14, 2009, 03:06:24 AM
For a short time, 22434's forecast title was OAKMONT-NEW KEN.-NATRONA HEIGHTS which barely fit, and was a horrible title in my opinion. It was soon renamed ALLEGHENY VALLEY AREA, which is much better.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 15, 2009, 09:17:29 AM
Has anyone seen a 10+ Extreme before on their star for uv?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on August 15, 2009, 11:03:12 AM
Has anyone seen a 10+ Extreme before on their star for uv?
Yes, all the time due to hot weather.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 15, 2009, 11:08:24 AM
Has anyone seen a 10+ Extreme before on their star for uv?
I've seen STARs showing that, yeah, but the UV index can only get up to 10 here.

Felix, it doesn't have to be hot for the UV index to be high.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 15, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
Has anyone seen a 10+ Extreme before on their star for uv?
I've seen STARs showing that, yeah, but the UV index can only get up to 10 here.

Felix, it doesn't have to be hot for the UV index to be high.

Yeo, I see this all the time mostly during the summer though. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 15, 2009, 11:17:08 AM
It's usually the same in our area, yet there's more sun in the winter than in the summer. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 15, 2009, 02:48:09 PM
Has anyone seen a 10+ Extreme before on their star for uv?
Alex, I've seen this lots of times during a sunny summer day.  It happens more often than you think, especially in the South.

Yes, all the time due to hot weather.
Felix, the UV index determines the intensity of UV radiation hitting the ground, so sun angle and cloud cover are the major factors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 15, 2009, 04:30:44 PM
Is it not supported by the Intellistar to have an Int'l site on the metro map? I noticed when I was in Romulus that Essex, Canada appeared on the forecast metro maps, but not the CC metro maps. I also see that Felix's Intellistar is this same way with Mexico.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 15, 2009, 04:48:44 PM
Is it not supported by the Intellistar to have an Int'l site on the metro map? I noticed when I was in Romulus that Essex, Canada appeared on the forecast metro maps, but not the CC metro maps. I also see that Felix's Intellistar is this same way with Mexico.
That is correct.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 15, 2009, 04:58:23 PM
Is it not supported by the Intellistar to have an Int'l site on the metro map? I noticed when I was in Romulus that Essex, Canada appeared on the forecast metro maps, but not the CC metro maps. I also see that Felix's Intellistar is this same way with Mexico.
That is correct.
Why is that though? If there is a legit reporting site inside the metro map, there should be no reason why a legit Int'l site shouldn't appear
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 15, 2009, 05:03:26 PM
Simply because the metro maps are no longer configured to use actual reporting sites - they can only show HiRAD observations.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 15, 2009, 05:05:18 PM
Simply because the metro maps are no longer configured to use actual reporting sites - they can only show HiRAD observations.
Makes sense, since the metro CC maps premiered after HiRAD did.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 15, 2009, 05:33:22 PM
I seems really odd to me though that the regional map is configured to show legit Int'l reports, but the metro map isn't.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 15, 2009, 05:41:07 PM
I seems really odd to me though that the regional map is configured to show legit Int'l reports, but the metro map isn't.

I think that's because the regional maps were around WELL before the metro maps were added around the debut of HiRAD so it's able to get observations.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 15, 2009, 07:11:42 PM
I hope a new playlist comes out soon.  I have a feeling the playlists will be bimonthly <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 16, 2009, 12:27:02 AM
XL in Canton,MA!!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 16, 2009, 11:35:57 AM
XL in Canton,MA!!!
Taunton?! That's really close to your place!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 16, 2009, 01:55:04 PM
Well, I have yet another question here. Does the Intellistar show radar imagery from Canadian radars on the sat/rad as well as the radar segments? Mike pointed out to me that storms (such as Ike last year) always seem to collapse and dissipate as soon as they cross Lake Huron into Ontario. I pointed out to him that it could be that the Intellistar does not integrate Canadian radar imagery into its radar products. Is this true?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 16, 2009, 07:23:01 PM
Well, I have yet another question here. Does the Intellistar show radar imagery from Canadian radars on the sat/rad as well as the radar segments? Mike pointed out to me that storms (such as Ike last year) always seem to collapse and dissipate as soon as they cross Lake Huron into Ontario. I pointed out to him that it could be that the Intellistar does not integrate Canadian radar imagery into its radar products. Is this true?
I don't recall seeing radar echos in Canada either on my IntelliStar, so I believe that it's true.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 17, 2009, 02:02:24 AM
as of 2am EDT My Star is frozen :dance: just came back at 2:02
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 17, 2009, 04:49:01 AM
Commercials over 4:48am LF
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on August 17, 2009, 09:14:50 AM
I had an issue where TWC had macroblocking overnight (1am ET hour) and would cut to gray. After I had TWC on for 15 minutes, my cable box rebooted. It was downstream from the IS though, so it could have been my box.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 17, 2009, 09:41:42 AM
Just like the morning I was in Romulus (8/7), there is an awful staticy sound to the music yet again. This is especially evident with "Martha" by the Allman Brothers.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 17, 2009, 04:57:24 PM
Has anyone seen this Localonthe8s Summer Intro yet? :dunno: I recorded this last night, but I saw it for the first time Sunday Morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Z_i1PPQ5s# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Z_i1PPQ5s#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 17, 2009, 05:06:34 PM
I first saw it last night, so it must be new as of yesterday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 17, 2009, 05:14:28 PM
That's the first time I've seen that LF intro, so I'm pretty sure Mike is right in saying that it debuted yesterday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 17, 2009, 05:16:53 PM
I wish they were showing it over those stupid WUWA LOT8s ads, "everybody wakes up al" wek know who cares anymore.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 17, 2009, 05:20:50 PM
Weatherstar 4000 at Denison IA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 17, 2009, 05:30:37 PM
I wish they were showing it over those stupid WUWA LOT8s ads, "everybody wakes up al" wek know who cares anymore.
They seemed to cut the advertising of WUWA a little, but I still see ads for it several times an hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 17, 2009, 05:40:08 PM
XL in Albia IA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 17, 2009, 08:38:11 PM
Has anyone seen this Localonthe8s Summer Intro yet? :dunno: I recorded this last night, but I saw it for the first time Sunday Morning.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Z_i1PPQ5s#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Z_i1PPQ5s#[/url])


I would think it's almost a little too late to be debuting new summer LOT8s intros, but it does beat seeing ones for WUWA and TWC - THE Hurricane Authority all the time. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 17, 2009, 11:14:19 PM
i caught the sunrise line on my star
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lightning86 on August 17, 2009, 11:17:39 PM
Wow, this is neat. I never seen thsi before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 18, 2009, 05:49:39 AM
Okay, WHY is TWC running a one minute at 5:47 AM EDT? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on August 18, 2009, 07:08:49 AM
Okay, WHY is TWC running a one minute at 5:47 AM EDT? :blink:
To get the timing right so that they can start WUWA at 5:59am.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on August 18, 2009, 12:13:57 PM
Does any one know if the haze icon was ever shown on the XL? I always see it as '...under partly cloudy skies with some haze' with the partly cloudy icon shown.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 18, 2009, 01:34:37 PM
Does any one know if the haze icon was ever shown on the XL? I always see it as '...under partly cloudy skies with some haze' with the partly cloudy icon shown.  :unsure:
No, I don't think the XL ever showed a haze icon. I do know the XL has narration that just says "under hazy skies." Not sure if you've heard it, but if not, here's a video if it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPw3mfp14f8# (http://www.youtube.com/v/yPw3mfp14f8&amp;ap=%2526fmt%3D18&amp;rel=0&amp;fs=1%22%20target=%22_blank)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 21, 2009, 01:34:21 PM
My IntelliStar is using the built-in playlist again. At 1:28 PM ET, I heard "Deux Cafe" by Brian Hughes instead of Layla.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 21, 2009, 02:12:44 PM
My IntelliStar is using the built-in playlist again. At 1:28 PM ET, I heard "Deux Cafe" by Brian Hughes instead of Layla.
If only the two DBS STARs did that. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 21, 2009, 03:29:43 PM
My IntelliStar is using the built-in playlist again. At 1:28 PM ET, I heard "Deux Cafe" by Brian Hughes instead of Layla.
Road to Venlo at 3:29 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 22, 2009, 06:16:35 PM
I played one of my Chincoteague 4000 videos in Media Player classic, and here's a snapshot I took of the 4000 when it first boots up!

(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab313/TWCZach/General%20TWC%20Pics/4000bootup.png)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 24, 2009, 09:50:36 AM
Odd, they played the "normal" K flavor at 9:48 instead of the one with the traffic products in the beginning. :huh:

Also, at 7:48, a one minute flavor played.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 24, 2009, 11:13:16 AM
I don't understand this, but the DBS IntelliSTAR (as I call it) displays the normal "LOT8s Logo" unless there's a sponsor for that LF during the live WUWA, but on the 10 AM rebroadcast, it shows the WUWA Logos. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 24, 2009, 11:39:47 AM
Looks like Shane posted another Tampa IS video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXH6wb2vLd0&feature=channel_page# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXH6wb2vLd0&feature=channel_page#)


If you go to the description, you'll see he says "One of the longest one's i have seen in awhile, more traffic is shown than i have ever seen.", I'm not sure what he means by that. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 24, 2009, 11:49:43 AM
Copyrighted audio, go figure. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on August 24, 2009, 12:21:50 PM
Wait, he doesn't have the 4000 anymore?? :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 24, 2009, 01:00:30 PM
Wait, he doesn't have the 4000 anymore?? :(
The 4000 was located in Mexico Beach, FL, and the last time I PM'd him (which was months ago), he said it was still there (in which he was already in Tampa by then). :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 25, 2009, 01:14:21 PM
Here's a video of the San Juan, PR IntelliStar if no one has seen it before. What startled me is that I didn't know PR even had TWC, let alone their own star. :blink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfK2zT1n_mc&feature=channel_page# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfK2zT1n_mc&feature=channel_page#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on August 27, 2009, 12:46:55 AM
San Angelo's Intellistar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft0ln6lSyGM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft0ln6lSyGM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 29, 2009, 11:30:37 AM
Looks like the daytime playlist now starts at 11AM instead of noon, as I have been hearing daytime songs so far this hour (Visiting by Gooding at :28, Windjammer at :18).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on August 29, 2009, 11:37:51 AM
Looks like the daytime playlist now starts at 11AM instead of noon, as I have been hearing daytime songs so far this hour (Visiting by Gooding at :28, Windjammer at :18).
IMO, the daytime should start at 12PM CT rather than 10-11AM CT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 29, 2009, 11:57:52 AM
Looks like the daytime playlist now starts at 11AM instead of noon, as I have been hearing daytime songs so far this hour (Visiting by Gooding at :28, Windjammer at :18).
I thought something was strange when I heard "Take Five" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet at 11:08 AM ET today. Maybe it's just a weekend thing. I guess we'll find out in the coming days.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 29, 2009, 12:22:44 PM
I always thought it made better sense for the daytime list to start at 11AM, since that is when DP/WN and the one minute flavor format starts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 29, 2009, 01:22:37 PM
Yep....expect more changes in the October list.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 29, 2009, 05:30:16 PM
A Loss for Words by Gooding at :28. I guess primetime is now at 5pm
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 29, 2009, 05:32:50 PM
A Loss for Words by Gooding at :28. I guess primetime is now at 5pm
This would mean for a major problem for me to capture Heat Index when I am up in St Ignace (UP side of the Mackinac Bridge). I hope they did not move the start of the primetime up to 5.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 29, 2009, 05:38:56 PM
While I don't mind the dayparts changing, it's really bad timing they chose. This makes morning and now daytime difficult to record. Now, Moments in Love by Art of Noise.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on August 29, 2009, 05:51:12 PM
While I don't mind the dayparts changing, it's really bad timing they chose. This makes morning and now daytime difficult to record. Now, Moments in Love by Art of Noise.
I agree. I do think that the primetime list should start earlier than 8 PM ET, but 5 is far too early. I would say more like 7 PM ET. Now I am going to have a difficult time capturing the daytime list when I go up north.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 30, 2009, 03:13:58 PM
New XL!

Kingsland.GA


Obs site: Saint Simons Island, GA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 30, 2009, 04:35:12 PM
So I got up to school yesterday, and to my surprise, they discontinued Comcast service, and replaced it with channels from DirecTV. They had the DirecTV local forecast last night when I got up to school, but it's gone missing today for whatever reason. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 30, 2009, 04:56:12 PM
So I got up to school yesterday, and to my surprise, they discontinued Comcast service, and replaced it with channels from DirecTV. They had the DirecTV local forecast last night when I got up to school, but it's gone missing today for whatever reason. :unsure:
Same here, there's no DTV forecast all day and I didn't disable anything.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 30, 2009, 05:09:28 PM
So I got up to school yesterday, and to my surprise, they discontinued Comcast service, and replaced it with channels from DirecTV. They had the DirecTV local forecast last night when I got up to school, but it's gone missing today for whatever reason. :unsure:
Same here, there's no DTV forecast all day and I didn't disable anything.
The DirecTV LF is back as of 5:08 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 30, 2009, 05:23:28 PM
So I got up to school yesterday, and to my surprise, they discontinued Comcast service, and replaced it with channels from DirecTV. They had the DirecTV local forecast last night when I got up to school, but it's gone missing today for whatever reason. :unsure:
Same here, there's no DTV forecast all day and I didn't disable anything.
The DirecTV LF is back as of 5:08 PM ET.
I'm still not getting an LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 30, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
So I got up to school yesterday, and to my surprise, they discontinued Comcast service, and replaced it with channels from DirecTV.
:(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on August 30, 2009, 10:25:45 PM
So I got up to school yesterday, and to my surprise, they discontinued Comcast service, and replaced it with channels from DirecTV.
:(
I agreed, that's sucks. =( DirecTV is boring.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 01, 2009, 11:46:06 AM
A 3 min flavor would really help with the local forecast drought and would help counter react these useless 1min flavors and commercials during this 11am-2pm timeslot and plus twc would get more viewers by making this change.

It shouldn't be a problem as the Intellistar has enough products to incorporate a 3 min flavor which would make anyone who doesen't see the product they never get to see happy!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 01, 2009, 06:38:44 PM
Homemade cloud deck makes it own eye (Bottom Right)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 02, 2009, 06:00:37 AM
Did anyone catch the song that played at 5:57 AM EDT? It did not sound like a playlist song. Due to issues with my desktop, I was not able to record it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 02, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
i wish there was a way to expand the daypart forcast into 4 screens = 48hrs instead of hearing the local forecast over and over.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 02, 2009, 01:58:53 PM
Did anyone catch the song that played at 5:57 AM EDT? It did not sound like a playlist song. Due to issues with my desktop, I was not able to record it.
I heard it vaguely while I was napping before school this morning. :yawn:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 02, 2009, 03:12:28 PM
are you sure it's not an overnight or morning song?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 02, 2009, 03:38:24 PM
are you sure it's not an overnight or morning song?
I don't think so. I have finally memorized the morning and overnite lists, and could not ID the song. Like I said, my desktop does not work, and I did not have my laptop tuner set up at the time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 02, 2009, 04:41:07 PM
The song at 5:57 (which is most likely a WUWA only song) is Sunshine Instrumental by Timbuk 3
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 03, 2009, 07:41:35 PM
The DirecTV LF has been down here since at least 11:58 PM ET yesterday. Ugh, this getting annoying.  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 03, 2009, 08:12:29 PM
The DirecTV LF has been down here since at least 11:58 PM ET yesterday. Ugh, this getting annoying.  <_<
if the reciever isn't in your room but rather getting run in through a cable, could someone be pressing exit on the remote? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 03, 2009, 08:28:18 PM
The DirecTV LF has been down here since at least 11:58 PM ET yesterday. Ugh, this getting annoying.  <_<
if the reciever isn't in your room but rather getting run in through a cable, could someone be pressing exit on the remote? :unsure:
I have no idea where the receiver is. I assume it's somewhere on campus. I don't think anyone is pressing the remote to exit, because the "Get Local Weather Now/Clear" thing is still appearing during national programming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 04, 2009, 08:23:31 AM
I forgot that I actually did record the song at 5:57 on Tuesday morning before my desktop went out. Just to clarify to everyone, here it is, and it is indeed a WUWA song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sERG489q1Lo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sERG489q1Lo#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 06, 2009, 05:44:01 PM
I'm sorry for the double post here, but I have seen some major errors on the St Ignace XL unit. First, Channel 21 is listed on the station ID, when it is actually channel 26. I just saw the almanac, and it's telling me that sunrise is at 11:06 AM tomorrow, and sunset is at 12:09 AM.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 06, 2009, 05:51:43 PM
I'm sorry for the double post here, but I have seen some major errors on the St Ignace XL unit. First, Channel 21 is listed on the station ID, when it is actually channel 26. I just saw the almanac, and it's telling me that sunrise is at 11:06 AM tomorrow, and sunset is at 12:08 AM.

That's weird.  :blink: I'm having this thing where the temp on the blue LDL is different from the one on the time tab on the LDL. Should I report this to the STAR team?  :dunno:

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 06, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
I'm sorry for the double post here, but I have seen some major errors on the St Ignace XL unit. First, Channel 21 is listed on the station ID, when it is actually channel 26. I just saw the almanac, and it's telling me that sunrise is at 11:06 AM tomorrow, and sunset is at 12:08 AM.

That's weird.  :blink: I'm having this thing where the temp on the blue LDL is different from the one on the time tab on the LDL. Should I report this to the STAR team?  :dunno:

I suggest you give them a try, if not i guess its nothing they can do or fix.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 06, 2009, 06:20:22 PM
I'm sorry for the double post here, but I have seen some major errors on the St Ignace XL unit. First, Channel 21 is listed on the station ID, when it is actually channel 26. I just saw the almanac, and it's telling me that sunrise is at 11:06 AM tomorrow, and sunset is at 12:08 AM.

That's weird.  :blink: I'm having this thing where the temp on the blue LDL is different from the one on the time tab on the LDL. Should I report this to the STAR team?  :dunno:

I suggest you give them a try, if not i guess its nothing they can do or fix.

Hmm, it doesn't seem to be doing it during the LF running right now. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 06, 2009, 07:50:52 PM
Rare find i can't believe thats the "MetroWest Metro map"

maybe one small city could fit on there west of Fitchburg and Sterling
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 08, 2009, 11:09:39 AM
Hmm, I wonder if TWC switched back to the old playlist format. "This Place Hotel" from the morning list played at 11:08 AM ET.  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 08, 2009, 11:19:58 AM
Hmm, I wonder if TWC switched back to the old playlist format. "This Place Hotel" from the morning list played at 11:08 AM ET.  :thinking:
Maybe not, Firecracker at 11:18 AM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on September 08, 2009, 11:25:00 AM
Hmm, I wonder if TWC switched back to the old playlist format. "This Place Hotel" from the morning list played at 11:08 AM ET.  :thinking:
Maybe not, Firecracker at 11:18 AM ET.
It could have been just a fluke, Mike.  I've heard of situations where LF songs that don't belong on the playlist get played by accident.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 08, 2009, 11:39:59 AM
Possibly. This Place Hotel played again at 11:38 AM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 08, 2009, 02:32:27 PM
Hmm, I wonder if TWC switched back to the old playlist format. "This Place Hotel" from the morning list played at 11:08 AM ET.  :thinking:
Love that song. :wub:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on September 09, 2009, 07:39:43 AM
Is the DirecTV LF not working for anyone else?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on September 10, 2009, 06:08:50 PM
Here are some screen shots from my Istar at college. #24111 through Armstrong cable.

CC: Grove City
LDL cities: Grove City, Slippery Rock, Butler
Local obs: Butler, Franklin, Kennerdale, Meadville, New Castle, Pittsburgh Int'l, Slippery Rock, Youngstown
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 11, 2009, 11:10:20 AM
Darn, I wish these one min flavors would go away  :club:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 11, 2009, 12:51:15 PM
Darn, I wish these one min flavors would go away  :club:
Uh, well, don't we all? :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on September 11, 2009, 03:34:34 PM
Darn, I wish these one min flavors would go away  :club:
Uh, well, don't we all? :P
There's not much we can do about it.  LF flavors under two minutes in length have been around for quite a while.  They even existed in TWC's early days.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 12, 2009, 09:07:27 PM
Here is a clip of that erroneous almanac data I was talking about last week. Also notice the interesting narration error in this. I was hoping I could capture an error like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PyZV33lbc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PyZV33lbc#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 14, 2009, 04:09:30 PM
Sat then George Howard at :08 :dance: (Backup playlist after istar late cue) Clip coming!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 14, 2009, 04:29:14 PM
Sat then George Howard at :08 :dance: (Backup playlist after istar late cue) Clip coming!

It's playing at 4:28pm EDT too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 14, 2009, 04:45:03 PM
Sat then George Howard at :08 :dance: (Backup playlist after istar late cue) Clip coming!
Sounds like your IntelliStar is using its dual feed playlist, which is weird because there's no weather in your area that would prompt dual feed coverage.

Edit: I checked and my IntelliStar played this song too :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 14, 2009, 04:49:34 PM
New WUWA opener at :48

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 14, 2009, 04:54:12 PM
I'm hearing some song with a funky beat that's not on the normal playlist on my end. :blink: :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 14, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
With my slingbox gone and the TV changed, does anyone know if they're playing George Howard on the satellite feed too?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 14, 2009, 04:59:36 PM
nope no George Howard :no: :(

However, DirecTV is using 24130 again. Can they leave it on 24131? :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 14, 2009, 05:27:52 PM
Wow, I got George Howard music as well. First time I have been able to record any of his music!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 14, 2009, 06:41:02 PM
I love XL hunting.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on September 15, 2009, 10:52:31 AM
I just heard The Simpson's Theme on Local On the 8's just now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on September 15, 2009, 01:29:19 PM
I just heard The Simpson's Theme on Local On the 8's just now.

Are you serious????  :blink: :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on September 15, 2009, 02:15:56 PM
Yup! I also heard Mission Impossible theme yesterday on local on the 8's on Wake Up with Al.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on September 15, 2009, 02:17:53 PM
Hmm...I definetly assume that this week is TV shows week on WUWA.
I would love to see that happening... :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on September 15, 2009, 02:33:35 PM
I'll try to tape it tomorrow for interesting songs and put it on youtube if it would allow me too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 15, 2009, 03:46:46 PM
I just heard The Simpson's Theme on Local On the 8's just now.

Are you serious????  :blink: :blink:

I heard The Simpson theme song this morning too, as much as I love that show, it was very odd and didn't fit right playing on the LF. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 15, 2009, 03:49:29 PM
I just placed my request in. Hope it gets featured lol. :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 15, 2009, 04:03:38 PM
Due to the overload of Traffic, Marine, AQ, and Getaway on my ISTAR this is the 1st time in a long while i've seen School Day Weather appear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvjPcUbqZc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvjPcUbqZc#)

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on September 15, 2009, 04:36:40 PM
I could be wrong but one of the songs that I heard this morning was kinda short and it started over. I think it was Barny Miller theme.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 15, 2009, 04:59:59 PM

THANK YOU!!!  :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on September 15, 2009, 06:02:16 PM
Simpsons FTW :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on September 15, 2009, 07:39:14 PM
Due to the overload of Traffic, Marine, AQ, and Getaway on my ISTAR this is the 1st time in a long while i've seen School Day Weather appear.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvjPcUbqZc#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvjPcUbqZc#[/url])


Thats "If I only had a Brain"  covered by Gary Brunotte


on a side note.. I heard the Kinght Rider Theme today
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 17, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
Weird, TWC appears to be running normal LF lengths (90 seconds) at :18 and :48 during Day Planner now. I am not sure about the :08 and :38 LFs. I was watching during the 11:48 and 12:18 LFs and saw normal K flavors playing. I would be excited to see this come back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 17, 2009, 01:06:19 PM
Yup i saw at :38 they brung back the 2 min  :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 17, 2009, 01:08:48 PM
Yup i saw at :38 they brung back the 2 min  :dance:
I wonder if perhaps this is a one day thing, as I see the Climate Quiz component was brought back as well. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 17, 2009, 01:11:45 PM
Yup i saw at :38 they brung back the 2 min  :dance:
I wonder if perhaps this is a one day thing, as I see the Climate Quiz component was brought back as well. :dunno:

I hope not i bet they chose to switch the format back has something to do with viewers complaints from the internet (Facebook, Twitter, Etc.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 17, 2009, 01:16:50 PM
Yup i saw at :38 they brung back the 2 min  :dance:
I wonder if perhaps this is a one day thing, as I see the Climate Quiz component was brought back as well. :dunno:

I hope not i bet they chose to switch the format back has something to do with viewers complaints from the internet (Facebook, Twitter, Etc.)
One would think so, but it would not have taken this long for the formats and lengths to be back to normal due to complaints if TWC actually cared about their feedback.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 17, 2009, 02:10:51 PM
Wow, I hope this is permanent!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 17, 2009, 02:11:36 PM
Wow, I hope this is permanent!
You're not the only one  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 17, 2009, 02:44:22 PM
I see they still have the flavor changes (i.e. K flavors opening to metro map, etc) in place, but the normal LF schedule appears to be back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 17, 2009, 04:16:41 PM
A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!!! :clap: :clap: :thrilled: :thrilled: :dance: :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 17, 2009, 04:21:06 PM
A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!!! :clap: :clap: :thrilled: :thrilled: :dance: :dance:
Like I said, I am concerned it was only for today since they wanted to add in the climate quiz, but it is quite possible the normal schedule is here to stay :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 17, 2009, 04:55:59 PM
Yup i saw at :38 they brung back the 2 min  :dance:
I wonder if perhaps this is a one day thing, as I see the Climate Quiz component was brought back as well. :dunno:

I hope not i bet they chose to switch the format back has something to do with viewers complaints from the internet (Facebook, Twitter, Etc.)
I hope not either like the last time. This would be great when recording daytime songs on the weekends.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 18, 2009, 11:41:44 AM
Just Saw the :38 it definitely was a 2min
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 18, 2009, 11:53:12 AM
Well, I am concerned now, as a one minute played at 11:48 AM EDT

Edit: One minute LFs appear to be back :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 18, 2009, 03:20:59 PM
Well, I am concerned now, as a one minute played at 11:48 AM EDT

Edit: One minute LFs appear to be back :(
See, it was only a 1 day thing. I don't know why they do it on certain days though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 18, 2009, 05:00:49 PM
It was likely because of those climate quizzes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 19, 2009, 08:33:13 PM
Not sure if anyone is interested, but someone uploaded a favorite TWC song in full length. It's funny how the person who uploaded this song didn't even know TWC used it. :wacko:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T146_9iRQ44&feature=channel_page# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T146_9iRQ44&feature=channel_page#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on September 20, 2009, 07:40:32 PM
My DirecTV receiver just cued a Local Forecast over a DirecTV technical difficulties notice. o_O

[2009-09-20T18:43-0500] Update: ...and the GET LOCAL WEATHER NOW/CLEAR thing at :43
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 20, 2009, 09:59:51 PM
First vid of the problem (only local and comcast ads work)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMfYgI859Qk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMfYgI859Qk#)

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1CwPgpqcH8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1CwPgpqcH8#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on September 21, 2009, 04:01:21 PM
Not sure if anyone is interested, but someone uploaded a favorite TWC song in full length. It's funny how the person who uploaded this song didn't even know TWC used it. :wacko:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T146_9iRQ44&feature=channel_page#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T146_9iRQ44&feature=channel_page#[/url])

I love that song for some reason. It came back 3 times. Oh! Batman song is back and some other songs too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on September 21, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
Not sure if anyone is interested, but someone uploaded a favorite TWC song in full length. It's funny how the person who uploaded this song didn't even know TWC used it. :wacko:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T146_9iRQ44&feature=channel_page#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T146_9iRQ44&feature=channel_page#[/url])

I love that song for some reason. It came back 3 times. Oh! Batman song is back and some other songs too.


I like it too. Pretty catchy :)

So, I'm guessing they are repeating the WUWA theme from last week?  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 21, 2009, 04:50:24 PM
did anyone notice on their star Mix/Ice and Snow indicators are up on the reg/ local radars?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 21, 2009, 04:59:02 PM
did anyone notice on their star Mix/Ice and Snow indicators are up on the reg/ local radars?
Yep, precip indicators on the regional radar screen, and the sat/rad is reset
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 21, 2009, 07:14:05 PM
did anyone notice on their star Mix/Ice and Snow indicators are up on the reg/ local radars?
Yep, precip indicators on the regional radar screen, and the sat/rad is reset

I saw snow/mix frames come up in the radar frames around 4 this afternoon, which is what I believe initated the snow/mix indicators come up for us.

OT: While Jim was doing a live report from Peachtree Creek, they were showing the Wintry Mix icon for a current condition.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 22, 2009, 11:33:20 AM
could we do a mini lat48's for the fall time changeover at 5:19pm?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 22, 2009, 11:43:55 AM
I'll be recording :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 22, 2009, 11:54:57 AM
could we do a mini lat48's for the fall time changeover at 5:19pm?
I will be recording as well, and I hate to be selfish, but I thought of the idea first, last Winter :P
I'll be at my dad's, so as long as my desktop tuner holds, I will have recordings from two locations :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 22, 2009, 01:58:34 PM
Weird, I thought the station ID was fixed on 22842. Just saw a blank one at 1:57 PM EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 22, 2009, 05:07:51 PM
could we do a mini lat48's for the fall time changeover at 5:19pm?
Sorry, no can do.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 22, 2009, 05:10:34 PM
could we do a mini lat48's for the fall time changeover at 5:19pm?
Sorry, no can do.
neither can I as I just turned my TV over to my mom <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 22, 2009, 06:57:35 PM
No LF Station ID.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 23, 2009, 11:28:12 AM
here's the Changeover from Mount Washington

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKX7nTwW9_A# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKX7nTwW9_A#)

i'll get the New Bedford one up soon
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 23, 2009, 07:37:47 PM
I know I'm probably being a burden here, but does anyone know what I can do about my headend pulling 21865's feed instead of its own IntelliStar? I have been getting this IntelliStar for nearly two weeks now after TWC was frozen here back on 9/11 for at least a day. I've tried everything, including contacting Comcast about this via email, but I get no useful information, just saying they will forward the issue and don't seem to understand what's going on. I really want 21872 back, as what I get now doesn't serve my area well. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on September 23, 2009, 08:36:52 PM
Mike, did you contact the STAR team about this issue?  I can't offer any better advice though, so I hope someone else can help you here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 23, 2009, 08:59:44 PM
Yes, I posted over there last week but so far no response
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on September 23, 2009, 09:09:04 PM
Yes, I posted over there last week but so far no response
Okay, then there's nothing else I know you can do except wait it out. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 24, 2009, 03:49:18 PM
Mike, I concur with Patrick on this one, you may just have to ride it out. I would say that you should be proactive and presistent, thus keep trying with not only the STAR team but also Comcast and try to talk to as many people as possible.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 24, 2009, 05:00:34 PM
Mike the best thing to do is get in contact with the district/county office and hope they have an answer.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 25, 2009, 05:25:07 PM
Traffic problems on my end anyone else having this issue?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oetPnQKfo6M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oetPnQKfo6M#)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxB-F9mIYTU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxB-F9mIYTU#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6PCj1FGuDw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6PCj1FGuDw#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 26, 2009, 01:43:06 PM
"Rainbow Seeker" by Joe Sample played at 1:28pm EDT on my IntelliStar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 26, 2009, 02:03:08 PM
"Rainbow Seeker" by Joe Sample played at 1:28pm EDT on my IntelliStar.
"Take 5" played on 22840, so your Intellistar must be utilizing dual-feed then
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 26, 2009, 06:34:23 PM
"Rainbow Seeker" by Joe Sample played at 1:28pm EDT on my IntelliStar.
"Take 5" played on 22840, so your Intellistar must be utilizing dual-feed then

 :yes: "South of Market" by Joyce Cooling also played at 4:58pm EDT. UGH, I hate they keep playing when I don't have my tv tuner plugged up and they play but only once.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 26, 2009, 06:46:52 PM
"Rainbow Seeker" by Joe Sample played at 1:28pm EDT on my IntelliStar.
"Take 5" played on 22840, so your Intellistar must be utilizing dual-feed then

 :yes: "South of Market" by Joyce Cooling also played at 4:58pm EDT. UGH, I hate they keep playing when I don't have my tv tuner plugged up and they play but only once.  :hmm:
Well, I got that crappy excuse for a song "$160 Million Chinese Man" on that LF, so again, 22204 must be utilizing the dual feed feature.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 26, 2009, 06:50:30 PM
How about 24130 (or 24131 if it comes back) play those songs and recieve dual feed. :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 27, 2009, 05:43:53 PM
Has this ever happened before?

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1342/pict200909270440464.jpg)

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2664/pict200909270440534.jpg)

I know it is possibly due to the fact that TWC changes the forecast periods at 4 AM and PM each day, but still, I find it sort of interesting.......
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 27, 2009, 08:30:20 PM
Some nice config for Buffalo i found
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 28, 2009, 12:41:36 AM
The past two LFs, DirecTV IS has been showing the old blue Local On The 8s logo.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 28, 2009, 12:05:51 PM
The error with the text based happened again this morning. I will upload a clip as soon as I get back to Lansing this afternoon, and I'll see if it happens again at 4 PM EDT this afternoon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 28, 2009, 12:09:15 PM
Again, I apologize for the double post here, but it appears as though the normal LF schedule has been brought back once again today  :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 28, 2009, 12:38:06 PM
Hmm that is weird. Won't be surprised if the one minute schedule is brought back tomorrow
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 28, 2009, 12:58:04 PM
Hmm that is weird. Won't be surprised if the one minute schedule is brought back tomorrow
Well, I see they have put in Allstate as a sponsor for the :08 LF, and I am pretty sure there is one for the :38 LF as well. TWC does not do LF sponsors for one minute local forecasts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 28, 2009, 01:50:13 PM
YWT and Wuwa flavor at 1:48pm EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 28, 2009, 02:05:53 PM
YWT and Wuwa flavor at 1:48pm EDT
Hmm, weird. I'll check my recording when I get home within the next couple of hours or so. By WUWA/morning flavor, do you mean the traffic data beginning first?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 28, 2009, 02:20:34 PM
Traffic then (Weather Bulletin) > CC > Radar
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 28, 2009, 02:35:53 PM
Traffic then (Weather Bulletin) > CC > Radar
oh, okay. I obviously don't get traffic products here, but I usually get the bulletin before the CC and then the 8 city guesses.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 28, 2009, 05:14:40 PM
The past two LFs, DirecTV IS has been showing the old blue Local On The 8s logo.
It happened at 4:28 PM ET too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 28, 2009, 09:17:15 PM
The past two LFs, DirecTV IS has been showing the old blue Local On The 8s logo.
It happened at 4:28 PM ET too.
It's been happening quite a lot today. I'd say it's a 50/50 split between the old and new LOT8s logo.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on September 29, 2009, 11:52:11 AM
Wow, has the normal flavor schedule returned for good? WUWA flavor (CC>8 city>radar) at 11:48 AM EDT there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 29, 2009, 12:52:33 PM
The old blue Local On The 8s logo is gone today from the DirecTV IS.

Edit: I take that back. Blue logo appeared at 1:08 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 29, 2009, 01:22:57 PM
i think twc made a variation change for the 10am - 2pm slot and put the normal K at :18 and the Morning K (Wuwa/ywt) at :48
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 30, 2009, 02:50:11 PM
The DirecTV "Get Local Weather Now   Clear" box that appears around the 3s was too low and was covering the LDL at 2:43 PM ET.

Edit: Also, the Airport Delays tab is currently missing on the DirecTV IS LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on September 30, 2009, 02:51:32 PM
The DirecTV "Get Local Weather Now   Clear" box that appears around the 3s was too low and was covering the LDL at 2:43 PM ET.

It does that ALL the time.  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 30, 2009, 04:34:53 PM
I hope the October list starts tomorrow. If it's a delayed list with more rock, I'm gonna flip out. I'm sick of this month's list already even though it wasn't very bad.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 30, 2009, 04:54:40 PM
I hope the October list starts tomorrow. If it's a delayed list with more rock, I'm gonna flip out. I'm sick of this month's list already even though it wasn't very bad.
Agreed, I hope it does too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 30, 2009, 06:46:22 PM
Another Traffic alert
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 01, 2009, 12:08:08 PM
its now 12:08 and still September music :sick:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on October 01, 2009, 10:46:32 PM
I wonder if they are going to do another bi-monthly playlist if the September music is still ongoing?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 02, 2009, 10:50:18 AM
I wonder if they are going to do another bi-monthly playlist if the September music is still ongoing?

i think your right Patrick because i would of gotten the playlist emailed to me by now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 02, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
I've emailed Melissa several times about the playlist and have gotten no response, so I don't know what is going on here
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 02, 2009, 01:29:07 PM
Got some Clarification from Lee

Quote
Play list is still being worked on.  No ETA for you.  Sorry.  Keep checking weather.com once it is finalized, it will be posted immediately.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 02, 2009, 02:33:57 PM
Got some Clarification from Lee

Quote
Play list is still being worked on.  No ETA for you.  Sorry.  Keep checking weather.com once it is finalized, it will be posted immediately.
That figures; they're always delaying it nowadaze. TWC and NBC need to realize that the playlists are to be decided by the first day of the month, no ifs, ands, or butts. Never has been a problem before this year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 02, 2009, 02:42:38 PM
Nothing new. There hasn't been a playlist that started on the 1st since March. Seems they like to start new playlists at random times now  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 02, 2009, 02:44:04 PM
Nothing new. There hasn't been a playlist that started on the 1st since March. Seems they like to start new playlists at random times now  :hmm:
Good point, and I do remember a lot of playlists specifically over the past year that started late. I guess we should just remain hopeful, as there obviously is no set date for the beginning of the new playlist currently.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 02, 2009, 05:39:57 PM
The almanac on my IntelliStar is reporting that the low this morning was 1°!  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on October 02, 2009, 05:44:48 PM
The almanac on my IntelliStar is reporting that the low this morning was 1°!  :blink:

Nah that's impossible. That's probably a fail.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 02, 2009, 05:53:09 PM
The almanac on my IntelliStar is reporting that the low this morning was 1°!  :blink:

Nah that's impossible. That's probably a fail.

It's a HUGE FAIL, it was chilly, but it was 52° chilly, not 1° bone chilling.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 02, 2009, 07:21:43 PM
The almanac on my IntelliStar is reporting that the low this morning was 1°!  :blink:

Nah that's impossible. That's probably a fail.

It's a HUGE FAIL, it was chilly, but it was 52° chilly, not 1° bone chilling.
Is it triggering the record low screen?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 02, 2009, 07:51:41 PM
The almanac on my IntelliStar is reporting that the low this morning was 1°!  :blink:

Nah that's impossible. That's probably a fail.

It's a HUGE FAIL, it was chilly, but it was 52° chilly, not 1° bone chilling.
Is it triggering the record low screen?

 :no: , it's just another one of those glitches that I suspect was caused by the LDL glitch that the STAR team fixed the other day. I would provide a picture, but I don't have my tuner pulgged up right now and I'm working on an XL emulation that was requested by a youtuber.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on October 02, 2009, 09:03:28 PM
That figures; they're always delaying it nowadaze. TWC and NBC need to realize that the playlists are to be decided by the first day of the month, no ifs, ands, or butts. Never has been a problem before this year.
I hope you're kidding. I'm sure they have plenty of other things to be doing besides getting the playlist ready; I'm almost certain music playlists aren't one of the highest priorities. And contrary to your belief, there have indeed been cases in years past where the playlist wasn't ready by the first of the month.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 02, 2009, 09:28:56 PM
Is is still Brian Picard who puts the playlists together and programs the music, or is this done by a company now? I ask since Brian often started the playlists on the 1st up until they started playing rock music on the LFs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on October 03, 2009, 03:17:39 AM
I found out that DirecTV is now using the LFs on TWC HD.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 03, 2009, 11:15:48 AM
Is is still Brian Picard who puts the playlists together and programs the music, or is this done by a company now? I ask since Brian often started the playlists on the 1st up until they started playing rock music on the LFs.


i think TWC is using a music collaboration group to pick out music (maybe/not including brian) these might be the reasons why the playlists are late

1.not enough music found for the playlist.

2.music copyrights are failing when they reach twc which leads twc to find a different artist/group.

3. cannot find any worthwhile songs for the playlist, which leads to songs already found on the music computer/wuwa playlists.

there are so many sites to look at and twc should look at this one for example

http://www.jazztrax.com/jazz/release.html (http://www.jazztrax.com/jazz/release.html)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 04, 2009, 09:00:31 AM
Here's some icons never seen on the south east coast in a long time Sun/Fog
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 04, 2009, 09:41:28 AM
Here's some icons never seen on the south east coast in a long time Sun/Fog
Nothing new to me. :no: I've seen that icon plentiful amounts of times on the Satellite LF. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on October 04, 2009, 11:14:23 AM
Here's some icons never seen on the south east coast in a long time Sun/Fog
Nothing new to me. :no: I've seen that icon plentiful amounts of times on the Satellite LF. :yes:
Just curious, have you seen the am fog pm clouds icon? It should look just like that, but with a cloud instead of a sun.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 04, 2009, 12:23:40 PM
I haven't seen a fog/clouds icon on the new set yet. Not too sure if such an icon exists on this set. Has anyone seen it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 04, 2009, 12:47:53 PM
Here's some icons never seen on the south east coast in a long time Sun/Fog
Nothing new to me. :no: I've seen that icon plentiful amounts of times on the Satellite LF. :yes:
Just curious, have you seen the am fog pm clouds icon? It should look just like that, but with a cloud instead of a sun.
Nope. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 04, 2009, 06:58:48 PM
I found out that DirecTV is now using the LFs on TWC HD.
You do realize that I started a topic about this days ago don't you? :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 05, 2009, 11:02:03 AM
Finally The Canton Star in action!!!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 05, 2009, 11:47:33 AM
Well as some may know, the radar was out this morning, but was restored as of the 6:48 AM EDT LF. The looping info on the sat/rad is still gone on 22842 though. On the upside, normal LF lengths and schedules are continuing! :dance:


Finally The Canton Star in action!!!!
Nice!  :clap:
So you are now getting recordings of another XL?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 05, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
Well as some may know, the radar was out this morning, but was restored as of the 6:48 AM EDT LF. The looping info on the sat/rad is still gone on 22842 though. On the upside, normal LF lengths and schedules are continuing! :dance:


Finally The Canton Star in action!!!!
Nice!  :clap:
So you are now getting recordings of another XL?

Hopefully in the near future when i go back up there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 06, 2009, 01:38:15 PM
Has anyone seen the Traffic report reach the last line before? or is there one more line?

This is the first i seen it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 06, 2009, 02:18:34 PM
Has anyone seen the Traffic report reach the last line before? or is there one more line?

This is the first i seen it
No, I haven't seen in any of the 3 times that I have come in contact with traffic data. Wow, that one sure is long though. Usually they simplify it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 06, 2009, 04:12:39 PM
Has anyone seen the Traffic report reach the last line before? or is there one more line?

This is the first i seen it
No, I haven't seen in any of the 3 times that I have come in contact with traffic data. Wow, that one sure is long though. Usually they simplify it.
Do you even have traffic pulse on your istar to back up that claim lol? :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 06, 2009, 05:13:27 PM
Has anyone seen the Traffic report reach the last line before? or is there one more line?

This is the first i seen it

I've seen ones like this. During the G20, the list of road closures actually ran off screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 06, 2009, 07:21:56 PM
Has anyone seen the Traffic report reach the last line before? or is there one more line?

This is the first i seen it
No, I haven't seen in any of the 3 times that I have come in contact with traffic data. Wow, that one sure is long though. Usually they simplify it.
Do you even have traffic pulse on your istar to back up that claim lol? :wacko:
I was referring to the STARs I found in Cincinnati last October, and in Romulus and Novi in August
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 10, 2009, 10:01:30 AM
I hope 24130 isn't permanent because it's been on that STAR for almost a month now. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 10, 2009, 10:26:23 AM
Well, 24130 and 24131 have the same exact config so it isn't that much of a problem. Certainly better than me receiving 21865 instead of 21872, and who knows when that issue will be corrected... really starting to lose my patience on this
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 10, 2009, 10:44:10 AM
I wonder if Dish Network is getting the old DBS bug because I've only seen the current one like three times today. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 10, 2009, 12:42:10 PM
I know I'm late asking this, but when did they eliminate the 1 min. forecasts during Weekend Now and I'm assuming Day Planner too? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 10, 2009, 03:16:44 PM
I know I'm late asking this, but when did they eliminate the 1 min. forecasts during Weekend Now and I'm assuming Day Planner too? :dunno:
They got rid of them starting the week of 9/28, IIRC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 10, 2009, 07:01:06 PM
Wow, the radar has been blinking this evening (or at least I have noticed it this evening). I assume since Mike is also reporting this issue that it is a national issue?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 10, 2009, 07:22:21 PM
Wow, the radar has been blinking this evening (or at least I have noticed it this evening). I assume since Mike is also reporting this issue that it is a national issue?

Yes, it's a national issue, which I believe is the reason why the IntelliStar has been out for several hours now, I hope it stays out all weekend there's nothing intereesting (weatherwise) happening here and it gives me a chance to record good songs w/o the narration running in the background. I haven't caught an IntelliStar outage since July so it's been a while.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 10, 2009, 07:43:13 PM
Wow, the radar has been blinking this evening (or at least I have noticed it this evening). I assume since Mike is also reporting this issue that it is a national issue?

Yes, it's a national issue, which I believe is the reason why the IntelliStar has been out for several hours now, I hope it stays out all weekend there's nothing intereesting (weatherwise) happening here and it gives me a chance to record good songs w/o the narration running in the background. I haven't caught an IntelliStar outage since July so it's been a while.
Wait, so you're seeing satellite LFs and no LDL? The Intellistar is functioning fine for me. I would think HiRAD would be taken offline while this issue is ongoing, but TWC isn't smart enough to do that :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 10, 2009, 08:22:30 PM
Wow, the radar has been blinking this evening (or at least I have noticed it this evening). I assume since Mike is also reporting this issue that it is a national issue?

Yes, it's a national issue, which I believe is the reason why the IntelliStar has been out for several hours now, I hope it stays out all weekend there's nothing intereesting (weatherwise) happening here and it gives me a chance to record good songs w/o the narration running in the background. I haven't caught an IntelliStar outage since July so it's been a while.
Wait, so you're seeing satellite LFs and no LDL? The Intellistar is functioning fine for me. I would think HiRAD would be taken offline while this issue is ongoing, but TWC isn't smart enough to do that :P

Yes, that's exactly what's happening, it's weird because the LDL cues in and 1 second later it reverses and cues out.  :blink:  I'm uploading some primetime clips I recorded while PME was on of what I'm talking about.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that this outage started at either 4:28pm or 4:58pm EDT (4:58pm I know for sure) and the LDL is still out at the moment.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 10, 2009, 08:47:14 PM
Wow, the radar has been blinking this evening (or at least I have noticed it this evening). I assume since Mike is also reporting this issue that it is a national issue?

Yes, it's a national issue, which I believe is the reason why the IntelliStar has been out for several hours now, I hope it stays out all weekend there's nothing intereesting (weatherwise) happening here and it gives me a chance to record good songs w/o the narration running in the background. I haven't caught an IntelliStar outage since July so it's been a while.
Wait, so you're seeing satellite LFs and no LDL? The Intellistar is functioning fine for me. I would think HiRAD would be taken offline while this issue is ongoing, but TWC isn't smart enough to do that :P

What does the LF being out for some folks have to due with TWC taking HiRAD offline?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 10, 2009, 09:53:12 PM
What does the LF being out for some folks have to due with TWC taking HiRAD offline?
Of course, you look for my quotes attacking HiRAD and the LF...
Anyway, perhaps I should have been more clear. I added in that last sentence when I was referring to the radar glitching. Not sure why HiRAD is not taken offline while that issue is ongoing
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 10, 2009, 10:50:52 PM
But I'm asking you why do you think they would take HiRAD offline just because of a radar glitch??
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 11, 2009, 12:33:49 AM
But I'm asking you why do you think they would take HiRAD offline just because of a radar glitch??
I'm pretty sure since you advocate for the mistake known as HiRAD that you would know radar is a major part of the formula for HiRAD??
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on October 11, 2009, 12:36:46 AM
Would you two stop bickering, please?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on October 11, 2009, 01:08:19 AM
I'm pretty sure since you advocate for the mistake known as HiRAD that you would know radar is a major part of the formula for HiRAD??
Just because the radar image that is shown on the STAR isn't correct or not functioning doesn't mean HIRAD wouldn't function. Ive always assumed HIRAD was generated back at TWC. The raw radar data from the nws would still be fine just there was an error in generating the precip graphics that are distributed to the STARs. Thats just how I have always thought of it. Plus I am quite confident if X condition/variable is missing then HIRAD wont show.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 11, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
Martin is 100% correct. The radar we see on LOT8s has  nothing to do with HiRAD. HiRAD uses it's own radar and satellite system in part to generate it's observations, among several other factors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 11, 2009, 10:56:07 PM
Wow i noticed this when i was checking twc on my tuner this morning
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 11, 2009, 11:02:54 PM
PennDot has a long term plan to expand I-376 from it's current designation (eastern suburbs of Monroeville/Plum/Penn Hills to Downtown) to go all the way to Pittsburgh Int'l Airport and re-designate parts of I-279 and PA-60 north all the way to I-76 in Mercer county. Recently, the first rounds of changes happened, by changing I-279 from Downtown to I-79 to I-376. What I find interesting is that the traffic.com products haven't been updated yet - but the flows on TWC have. Here's a screen shot from the New Ken Weatherscan. I'll get screen shots from the other STARs tomorrow.

In this picture - the I-79 route used to read "I-279/Parkway West to Bridgeville." You can see how it differs. The screen shots I'll post tomorrow have more substantial changes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 12, 2009, 05:16:34 PM
About 50 minutes ago, my IntelliStar rebooted, but with the wrong ID # (22207) which is for Marietta, instead of (22204) which is for Downtown Atlanta. Should I tell the STAR team about this or should i wait a few days and see if it's fixed on it's own? The configuration is not all that bad, but since I do live much closer to the Downtown Atlanta area, I like to have that one back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aNSGUSTVr0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aNSGUSTVr0#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 12, 2009, 05:22:52 PM
About 50 minutes ago, my IntelliStar rebooted, but with the wrong ID # (22207) which is for Marietta, instead of (22204) which is for Downtown Atlanta. Should I tell the STAR team about this or should i wait a few days and see if it's fixed on it's own? The configuration is not all that bad, but since I do live much closer to the Downtown Atlanta area, I like to have that one back.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aNSGUSTVr0#ws[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aNSGUSTVr0#ws[/url])

Hmm, I would wait a few daze (2 or 3). Speaking of the STAR team, I wish they would change my forecast titles. I do like the one you are receiving, Tavores.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 12, 2009, 06:31:06 PM
Wow, you're having the same issue I'm having right now, Tavores. For the past month I've been getting 21865 instead of 21872.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 12, 2009, 06:51:53 PM
Wow, you're having the same issue I'm having right now, Tavores. For the past month I've been getting 21865 instead of 21872.

Yeah, I knew something was going to be different when it rebooted, the same thing happened to my Weatherscan unit at the beginning of the year when it rebooted. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 12, 2009, 08:52:43 PM
Looks like you're just getting the wrong unit. Your default unit may be temporarily out of service, so you are seeing this unit in place of your normal one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Jake on October 12, 2009, 10:26:41 PM
anyone got a date for the IS relaunch?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 12, 2009, 10:27:47 PM
anyone got a date for the IS relaunch?
:censored: There is no relaunch planned...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on October 12, 2009, 11:26:16 PM
PennDot has a long term plan to expand I-376 from it's current designation (eastern suburbs of Monroeville/Plum/Penn Hills to Downtown) to go all the way to Pittsburgh Int'l Airport and re-designate parts of I-279 and PA-60 north all the way to I-76 in Mercer county. Recently, the first rounds of changes happened, by changing I-279 from Downtown to I-79 to I-376. What I find interesting is that the traffic.com products haven't been updated yet - but the flows on TWC have. Here's a screen shot from the New Ken Weatherscan. I'll get screen shots from the other STARs tomorrow.

In this picture - the I-79 route used to read "I-279/Parkway West to Bridgeville." You can see how it differs. The screen shots I'll post tomorrow have more substantial changes.
Does the STAR team make these changes or are they just added automatically?

anyone got a date for the IS relaunch?
The IS isnt going to be changed for a long time. I dont know why people keep thinking its ever gonna change. Just because TWC hasn't made any changes in a long time doesn't mean they are going to do something. There really is no need to change it. I know a lot of people here dont like it in its current state but its stable and sufficient for what TWC needs. I would be very surprised to see any significant changes to the IS in terms of the hardware or software. A graphics upgrade isn't really needed in my opinion. Unlike the other stars, the intellistar is a remarkable system that wont be quickly changed or removed as previous systems. I can easily see the IS being used for 7+ years without a hardware upgrade.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 12, 2009, 11:47:09 PM
PennDot has a long term plan to expand I-376 from it's current designation (eastern suburbs of Monroeville/Plum/Penn Hills to Downtown) to go all the way to Pittsburgh Int'l Airport and re-designate parts of I-279 and PA-60 north all the way to I-76 in Mercer county. Recently, the first rounds of changes happened, by changing I-279 from Downtown to I-79 to I-376. What I find interesting is that the traffic.com products haven't been updated yet - but the flows on TWC have. Here's a screen shot from the New Ken Weatherscan. I'll get screen shots from the other STARs tomorrow.

In this picture - the I-79 route used to read "I-279/Parkway West to Bridgeville." You can see how it differs. The screen shots I'll post tomorrow have more substantial changes.
Does the STAR team make these changes or are they just added automatically?
All changes are made manually by the STAR team.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on October 12, 2009, 11:50:37 PM
All changes are made manually by the STAR team.
Oh ok. I always wondered if the IS just automatically took traffic data from a database. Its quite interesting traffic.com wasn't updated before TWC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 13, 2009, 06:59:25 AM
Okay, this is weird. I heard "Rainbow Seeker" by Joe Sample at 5:58 AM EDT, and "Road To Venio" at 6:58 AM EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 13, 2009, 08:14:31 AM
Yeah, apparently the IntelliStar has been using its internal playlist, which shouldn't happen unless there's dual-feed weather coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 13, 2009, 10:07:33 AM
I thought I was the only one who heard "Rainbow Seeker" play this morning, funny thing I was going to record that LF forgetting that WUWA playlist starts then.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on October 14, 2009, 05:53:40 AM
I heard Rainbow Seeker and Road To Venlo on LF's yesterday.

Bill Pounds "Casa Del Sol" is on his Spirit Gift CD on iTunes
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 14, 2009, 01:02:06 PM
Finally, 22840's forecast title was changed to "Greater Lansing" after over 3 years of "Lansing Area". However, 22842, the STAR I put more emphasis on having the forecast title changed to be one that includes all areas served by it, has not been changed. It still remains "East Lansing", and I have no idea why.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 14, 2009, 04:00:36 PM
My IntelliStar is back! (22204) Looks like Tyler was right, my STAR was probably unavailable after the 48 hr. IntelliStar outage I experienced this weekend and the just gave me the next closest STAR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 14, 2009, 04:07:06 PM
Finally, 22840's forecast title was changed to "Greater Lansing" after over 3 years of "Lansing Area". However, 22842, the STAR I put more emphasis on having the forecast title changed to be one that includes all areas served by it, has not been changed. It still remains "East Lansing", and I have no idea why.
If the cable headend requested the title be East Lansing, then TWC can't change it no matter what.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 14, 2009, 04:32:24 PM
I caught the newest updated record temp forecast
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on October 14, 2009, 04:51:43 PM
surely you're being sarcastic.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 14, 2009, 04:53:44 PM
Finally, 22840's forecast title was changed to "Greater Lansing" after over 3 years of "Lansing Area". However, 22842, the STAR I put more emphasis on having the forecast title changed to be one that includes all areas served by it, has not been changed. It still remains "East Lansing", and I have no idea why.
If the cable headend requested the title be East Lansing, then TWC can't change it no matter what.
Well, I need the STAR team to tell me that for sure, because I notice you are speaking hypothetically.

I caught the newest updated record temp forecast
Is that just a capture from before the title and graphic had time to fade in?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 14, 2009, 06:27:26 PM
Quote
I caught the newest updated record temp forecast
Is that just a capture from before the title and graphic had time to fade in?


Nope i caught it when the title and graphics were on the last frame of fading out.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on October 14, 2009, 09:22:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML7UK0NBUiM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML7UK0NBUiM#)

At 1:41-1:42, I have never see the narration said "Record high temperature expected" before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 14, 2009, 10:15:22 PM
Wow, interesting. I have only heard "near record high temperatures" here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 15, 2009, 08:11:10 AM
Looks like you're just getting the wrong unit. Your default unit may be temporarily out of service, so you are seeing this unit in place of your normal one.
Is this also why I'm receiving 21865 instead of 21872? I've been receiving the wrong STAR for more than a month and Comcast seems clueless as to why this is occuring, as with the STAR team. According to both, 21872 is working fine so my headend just seems to be pulling the wrong IntelliStar feed (after TWC froze back on 9/11). I really want my right intellistar back, and would appreciate any help on doing so.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 15, 2009, 09:52:32 AM
Finally an updated Traffic flow map!

I-195 and I-495 finally have observations!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 15, 2009, 02:38:23 PM
Looks like you're just getting the wrong unit. Your default unit may be temporarily out of service, so you are seeing this unit in place of your normal one.
Is this also why I'm receiving 21865 instead of 21872? I've been receiving the wrong STAR for more than a month and Comcast seems clueless as to why this is occuring, as with the STAR team. According to both, 21872 is working fine so my headend just seems to be pulling the wrong IntelliStar feed (after TWC froze back on 9/11). I really want my right intellistar back, and would appreciate any help on doing so.

Well, in your case, since Comcast reports the STAR is operating properly, then maybe they changed where your feed comes from.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 15, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
Well, they should probably reconfigure 21865 a little then, as it doesn't serve my area all that well
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on October 15, 2009, 07:10:16 PM
There was a test card during the 18:08 CDT LF... o_O

TOTPD! :dance:

[2009-10-15T18:19-0500] Update: Now the satellite LF is blank and silent... All I see is the Satellite IntelliStar's Local on the 8s bug... o_O The entire LF was like that...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 15, 2009, 10:28:57 PM
They're currently running the emergency feed LF with normal playlist music. They haven't done that in ages.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 15, 2009, 11:10:50 PM
The Satellite LF is now frozen on the Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Fransisco, Seattle daypart forecast screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 16, 2009, 12:10:29 AM
SD satellite is currently dead. The 12:08 AM ET LF started as a test pattern with music then faded to black and no music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on October 16, 2009, 12:14:31 AM
SD satellite is currently dead. The 12:08 AM ET LF started as a test pattern with music then faded to black and no music.
My LF in SD had the IS running but no music.  My LF in HD was completely normal.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 16, 2009, 12:23:35 AM
The test pattern that started out the last two LFs:

(http://i.imagehost.org/0334/snapshot20091016002253.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 16, 2009, 12:31:57 AM
At 12:28 AM ET, the normal playlist music resumed, and they used a looping 6-region radar satellite from the emergency feed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on October 16, 2009, 02:11:08 AM
The audio cut out in the middle of the LF and is continuing to stay off
...until NOW
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on October 16, 2009, 02:15:09 AM
The audio cut out in the middle of the LF and is continuing to stay off
...until NOW
There have been a ton of audio problems with the LF all evening it seems.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 16, 2009, 09:28:14 AM
As of now, the Satellite LF is still on the emergency feed, and is just looping the regional forecast pages.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 16, 2009, 09:45:21 AM
Well, in your case, since Comcast reports the STAR is operating properly, then maybe they changed where your feed comes from.
Is it supposed to be like this? Because the STAR I'm receiving doesn't serve my area all that well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 16, 2009, 10:57:56 AM
For the 10:58 AM ET LF, they're using a Titan HD radar loop of the west.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 16, 2009, 12:00:00 PM
Hmm, was another song booted out this morning? Aside from the horrific narration skipping on 22842 (barely 2 seconds of narration through the whole text based), I heard a new song that I couldn't recognize at 11:48 AM EDT. The LF started out silent, I believe.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 16, 2009, 01:16:27 PM
Hmm, was another song booted out this morning? Aside from the horrific narration skipping on 22842 (barely 2 seconds of narration through the whole text based), I heard a new song that I couldn't recognize at 11:48 AM EDT. The LF started out silent, I believe.
Whenever they switch over to the Titan HD radar feed, that other song plays. Not sure what it is, might be a production piece.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 16, 2009, 02:00:32 PM
Hmm, was another song booted out this morning? Aside from the horrific narration skipping on 22842 (barely 2 seconds of narration through the whole text based), I heard a new song that I couldn't recognize at 11:48 AM EDT. The LF started out silent, I believe.
Whenever they switch over to the Titan HD radar feed, that other song plays. Not sure what it is, might be a production piece.
Well, I'll get a clip up of it within the next 2 hours then, as soon as I get home.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 16, 2009, 02:04:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4W9KD8fUQ4&fmt=18

I guess thats the song.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on October 16, 2009, 02:07:05 PM
ugh, I'm always the last one to posting these things on youtube, lol
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 16, 2009, 02:11:45 PM
ugh, I'm always the last one to posting these things on youtube, lol
You're not alone :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 23, 2009, 06:20:12 PM
Did TWC just air a 2 minute flavor at :18? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 24, 2009, 09:29:29 AM
Sorry for taking so long, but here's the DirecTV HD LF I caught almost a month ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEBkQw8qkw
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 04, 2009, 10:30:05 AM
Wow, out of nowhere a Jazz artist adds me and his music is sick

http://www.myspace.com/louisrobersonsr1

all of his songs especially Moonlight is sure to be featured on TWC soon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 05, 2009, 05:02:39 PM
New ID screen, might be something regarding HD?

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 05, 2009, 10:07:08 PM
That's an error, it happened once before early last month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 05, 2009, 10:13:52 PM
That's an error, it happened once before early last month.


Thanks for the Clarification Mike  :)

Here's the error in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v4kjf9tlVo
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on November 05, 2009, 10:17:16 PM
I don't think that's an error; it must be something new they're trying out. My IS has shown a full-screen graphic for the radio station lately as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 07, 2009, 11:08:49 AM
I don't think that's an error; it must be something new they're trying out. My IS has shown a full-screen graphic for the radio station lately as well.

I just noticed that graphic for the first time today about 10 minutes ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 07, 2009, 11:26:46 AM
I just noticed it on my STAR too and that's the first time it's ever listed a radio station. :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 07, 2009, 12:45:43 PM
I've seen radio stations listed on the STAR ID screens before, but the only thing I see different is that a new background is being used for the radio station graphic.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 08, 2009, 09:20:26 AM
Just saw Windy on my DirecTV LF. Never seen this before. :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 08, 2009, 09:52:04 AM
Just saw Windy on my DirecTV LF. Never seen this before. :o
I think I have seen that in the EF, but not in the Text Forecast. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 08, 2009, 09:52:41 AM
Yesterday I saw Sirius/XM as the radio station on my station ID for the first time. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 08, 2009, 10:26:40 AM
Yesterday I saw Sirius/XM as the radio station on my station ID for the first time. :blink:
Same here. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on November 08, 2009, 12:11:58 PM
There are times I try to tune into TWC to get a black screen. The entire channel - even STAR output - doesn't show. It's quite a serious issue. (And there's no TWC HD on this system.)

It does seem to be horribly glitched and I wouldn't know why. It's only TWC, too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on November 08, 2009, 02:19:39 PM
Just saw Windy on my DirecTV LF. Never seen this before. :o
Just saw Windy on my DirecTV LF. Never seen this before. :o
I think I have seen that in the EF, but not in the Text Forecast. ;)
I have seen that many times.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 08, 2009, 02:44:26 PM
Just saw Windy on my DirecTV LF. Never seen this before. :o
Just saw Windy on my DirecTV LF. Never seen this before. :o
I think I have seen that in the EF, but not in the Text Forecast. ;)
I have seen that many times.
As have I.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on November 08, 2009, 04:11:45 PM
Just saw Windy on my DirecTV LF. Never seen this before. :o

I have, several times.  :yes:. Not new to me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on November 08, 2009, 10:43:15 PM
Should we be starting to hear Storm Alert music soon?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on November 09, 2009, 10:25:40 AM
Should we be starting to hear Storm Alert music soon?

They didnt. I'm hearing Disney music instead on the LF (heard it on the supposed WUWA hour which was replaced by a 4th hour of YWT)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 09, 2009, 03:40:03 PM
TWC isn't going into Storm Alert Mode unless they plan on pulling an Ernesto.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on November 09, 2009, 03:41:41 PM
actually, they're already in "semi" storm alert...

not exactly storm alert, but i like it...no storm stories. =p
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on November 09, 2009, 03:43:38 PM
actually, they're already in "semi" storm alert...

not exactly storm alert, but i like it...no storm stories. =p

That's EXACTLY what I had in mind.
Red l3rds, preemptied long form, but dont see the OMG in it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 10, 2009, 11:18:33 AM
Some kind of music change has been happening on my star since a Istar outage

Here's the new music

http://www.youtube.com/user/gt1racer
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 13, 2009, 10:27:23 PM
LF with When Summer Comes played at 10:25 PM ET
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on November 14, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
So apparently it gets dark at 3pm in California...

(http://a.imagehost.org/0530/snapshot20091114122424.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on November 14, 2009, 11:31:57 PM
So apparently it gets dark at 3pm in California...
Hahaha, nice. I should check that out sometime! :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 20, 2009, 12:13:48 PM
Just went to Warwick,RI and saw the Providence I-Star with the changes from august and here's the 8 Cities

CC City: Either Warwick or Providence (i'll check when i go back on weds)

Page 1

Boston, MA

Nantucket, MA

New Bedford, MA (my Home headend)

Newport, RI

Page 2

Smithfield, RI

Providence, RI

Westerly, RI

Worcester, MA

Metro Map/Regional map (i'll check on Weds)

Regional Doppler: Added Pittsfield, MA and Chatham, MA

Local Doppler: Added Norwalk,CT

Marine: Still Narragansett Bay

 LDL 3 Cities: Providence, North Providence, Smithfield
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 21, 2009, 09:58:41 AM
As of this morning, 24131 is back! :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on November 23, 2009, 12:34:08 AM
I was down partying with some friends at CalU this weekend and managed to get a few pics of the STAR down there. It's 24224 on Armstrong Cable. It serves a very large, weirdly shaped area. It goes from Latrobe in the north, down through Mt. Pleasant, south to Connellsville, and all the way east to California. The area is so large and diversely-shaped that the forecast area is called "SW Pennsylvania." It's rare to find IntelliStars with a forecast name like that anymore. The CC site was Mt. Pleasant.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 24, 2009, 11:50:18 AM
Wow, yeah you don't see titles like that anymore. I know the Pocono area STAR uses the title "NE Pennsylvania" for the air quality forecast (possibly since there aren't a whole lot of AQ locations available in that area from the EPA) but not in any of the other screens (the rest Pocono Area). Thanks for sharing those pics :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on November 24, 2009, 05:06:25 PM
Anyone have Ocean City, MD on their Getaway Forecast? It's been "Temporarily Unavailable" on my IS's Getaway Forecast for about two weeks now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 24, 2009, 05:28:23 PM
Something weird just happened to my star at 5:18 here's the pics

And video
Weird Error for New Bedford I-Star (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h7AahCCjVQ#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: BOLT96 on November 24, 2009, 08:55:51 PM
Something weird just happened to my star at 5:18 here's the pics

And video
Weird Error for New Bedford I-Star ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h7AahCCjVQ#ws[/url])

 Whoa! I've never seen anything like that! Wonder what happened... :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 24, 2009, 10:01:31 PM
Anyone have Ocean City, MD on their Getaway Forecast? It's been "Temporarily Unavailable" on my IS's Getaway Forecast for about two weeks now.
I only get that city during the summer months.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on November 24, 2009, 10:25:19 PM
Anyone have Ocean City, MD on their Getaway Forecast? It's been "Temporarily Unavailable" on my IS's Getaway Forecast for about two weeks now.
Billy, have your 3 cities changed yet? I know mine did a couple weeks ago.
This happened to me back in April right before the switch to the summer site set.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on November 24, 2009, 11:10:08 PM
Anyone have Ocean City, MD on their Getaway Forecast? It's been "Temporarily Unavailable" on my IS's Getaway Forecast for about two weeks now.
Billy, have your 3 cities changed yet? I know mine did a couple weeks ago.
This happened to me back in April right before the switch to the summer site set.
Yeah, still on the summer set. I'd think they would be switching over to the winter set soon, right?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on November 25, 2009, 01:03:29 AM
i dont know what happened.. but my star id for willow grove changed from 21863 to 29427. anyone have any possible insight on this?

(http://copper.yi.org/wsl/wlgrv1.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on November 25, 2009, 01:31:07 AM
Maybe they replaced your IntelliStar. That would be my best guess.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on November 25, 2009, 07:21:44 AM
Maybe they replaced your IntelliStar. That would be my best guess.
I would say that too, except I thought the highest STAR ID's were in the low 28000's or so. I had no idea they go that high.
Brian, has the configuration changed? That would tell us if Tyler's hypothesis is correct.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 25, 2009, 08:35:43 AM
Wow, that's a high ID. Must be a new STAR. Is the configuration still the same? When I was in my dentist's office last week (they have the same Willow Grove-based STAR), the ID was the old one, 21863.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on November 25, 2009, 09:11:22 AM
Anyone have Ocean City, MD on their Getaway Forecast? It's been "Temporarily Unavailable" on my IS's Getaway Forecast for about two weeks now.
Billy, have your 3 cities changed yet? I know mine did a couple weeks ago.
This happened to me back in April right before the switch to the summer site set.
Yeah, still on the summer set. I'd think they would be switching over to the winter set soon, right?
Mine already did early on last week, I'm surprised your set has not changed yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 25, 2009, 11:23:38 AM
Something weird just happened to my star at 5:18 here's the pics

And video
Weird Error for New Bedford I-Star ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h7AahCCjVQ#ws[/url])

 Whoa! I've never seen anything like that! Wonder what happened... :blink:


that error  may have been triggered by this error on monday night

Someone broke my star! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjND2S8n9QI&fmt=18#ws)

that was the 1st night when the problems started.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 25, 2009, 07:55:08 PM
:blink: at this traffic map glitch
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 25, 2009, 08:17:38 PM
:blink: at this traffic map glitch

I have seen that glitch since July 2008 most recently just last week, but it was much worse. I know the IntelliStar doesn't technically "degrade" like the 4000, but couldn't these glitches be considered a different kind of degradation?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on November 26, 2009, 04:18:20 AM
Wow, that's a high ID. Must be a new STAR. Is the configuration still the same? When I was in my dentist's office last week (they have the same Willow Grove-based STAR), the ID was the old one, 21863.

configuration looks exactly the same, i usually record wuwa every morning, so i gotta see between which days it changed. there was nothing wrong with the machine, unless something is happening behind the scenes and we arent being told. for example, a machine upgrade because of something TWC is up to or in the works to do.. i do know that ive had 21863 since 2003.. my area is always picked on to be the first for new stuff, so who knows what..?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on November 26, 2009, 06:29:08 AM
okay on the 17th, it was still 21863, on the 18th it was 29427. heres a video depicting those day-to-day differences.

IntelliStar 21893 changed to 29427 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCbaSg7g388#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on November 26, 2009, 01:07:56 PM
:blink: at this traffic map glitch

I have seen that glitch since July 2008 most recently just last week, but it was much worse. I know the IntelliStar doesn't technically "degrade" like the 4000, but couldn't these glitches be considered a different kind of degradation?
As far as the traffic map goes... no it's not degradation at all. The map is actually a product of it's own and is not built into the STAR. The map is actually on it's own computer at TWC and is more or less "inserted" into the LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 26, 2009, 01:18:23 PM
okay on the 17th, it was still 21863, on the 18th it was 29427. heres a video depicting those day-to-day differences.
Wow, your local forecast uses the same exact metro map the Bensalem-based unit used to use (now it uses a map centered on Lower Bucks instead on Philly).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 27, 2009, 09:07:48 AM
IntelliStar: Jaffrey, NH/Peterborough,NH

Metro maps
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on November 27, 2009, 02:16:17 PM
Hmm, is it normal for Intellistars that do not have the AQ forecast product available to show All 4 CC products (Front page with narration, metro CC, 8 cities, and regional map, in that order) on :38/:58 LFs? I also noticed the appearance of the 8 city product on the :28/:58 flavors as well. I just find this odd since I never saw this in Alpena, and it does not appear as though that unit has the AQ forecast available either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 27, 2009, 02:34:45 PM
It depends on many things, such as whether or not a local radar is present, or how much narration is used on the text-based forecast product.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 27, 2009, 05:02:54 PM
On the text based 36 hr LF, Sunday instead of Saturday came up with "Temporarily Unavailable" right under it. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on November 27, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
On the text based 36 hr LF, Sunday instead of Saturday came up with "Temporarily Unavailable" right under it. :blink:
Same here...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on November 27, 2009, 06:02:12 PM
On the text based 36 hr LF, Sunday instead of Saturday came up with "Temporarily Unavailable" right under it. :blink:
Same here...
Wow, this is odd, I'm seeing that same error here in Port Huron as well  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 27, 2009, 07:00:29 PM
I'm not seeing this issue here... is anyone else still getting it or was it fixed?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on November 27, 2009, 08:00:10 PM
I think it was fixed at some point during the 5 PM EST hour, as I believe I saw it working correctly at some point before I left.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 28, 2009, 10:07:37 AM
New Station ID at 9:58am EST this morning (pier-esqe)

New Bedford Station ID Screen November 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFrddcgsmEg&fmt=18#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 28, 2009, 10:17:26 AM
Why make a station ID of a dock? It's almost December O_o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 28, 2009, 10:25:16 AM
I saw the one w/ the snowy cabin used last winter.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 28, 2009, 10:48:41 AM
I wish TWC would bring back the 2 minute flavours for the :18 and :48 local forecasts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 28, 2009, 02:00:12 PM
I wish TWC would bring back the 2 minute flavours for the :18 and :48 local forecasts.
We all do, but TWC is so money hungry right now :/
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 30, 2009, 08:53:08 PM
Interesting article on Norman Fisk...

http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=75131 (http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=75131)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 01, 2009, 01:04:53 PM
Playlist/Traffic product Fail: Trammell kicks in (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_t1lh_cAxA&fmt=18#)

is this the normal K flavor without traffic product? i'm asking because i never seen this flavor in person before.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 01, 2009, 01:47:59 PM
Sorry for the double post but i noticed the Traffic is either down or gone?  EDIT: i noticed only the :48 and the :58 are only pulling Either just the Traffic Map or the Traffic flow graphic.

Edit 2: Traffic's absense makes WeatherScan reboot and gets rerouted to Brockton and Reboots the Radar at the Bottom left

Playlist/Traffic product Fail: National Flavor used (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C63vTecnSrY&fmt=18#)

Playlist/Traffic product Fail: National Flavor used 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8XJksLbjMw&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mames on December 01, 2009, 03:55:56 PM
Did I hear Eagle Eye Cherry's "Save Tonight" on one LF during the replay of WUWA?  I think it was on for the :48. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 01, 2009, 09:19:14 PM
Interesting article on Norman Fisk...

[url]http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=75131[/url] ([url]http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=75131[/url])

There was an article about him back in Dec 07 as well. Kinda interested to see this article again though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 04, 2009, 09:37:12 AM
Here's the Canton, MA  Xl CC Screen!

And i noticed michael jackson's i just can't stop loving you played at :57 before wuwa replay @ 10am
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: BOLT96 on December 05, 2009, 10:14:30 AM
The OCMs started talking before the LF was over haha
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 05, 2009, 11:47:42 AM
Anyone know if the DirecTV LF is supposed to show the Weather Bulletins screen for a Winter Weather Advisory?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 05, 2009, 12:15:43 PM
Anyone know if the DirecTV LF is supposed to show the Weather Bulletins screen for a Winter Weather Advisory?

Yes, I believe it does. I know I've seen Molly show a clip of that at some point.

EDIT: Here's a clip of that:
Carbon Hill, AL wx forecast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDmmZ3ghMUM#ws)

I don't know though, it may only display more serious WWA.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 05, 2009, 12:28:24 PM
It only shows the Severe Wx screen if there's Flash Flooding, tornado, and severe thunderstorm watches/warnings.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 05, 2009, 12:29:51 PM
It only shows the Severe Wx screen if there's Flash Flooding, tornado, and severe thunderstorm watches/warnings.
Right, I was referring to the weather bulletin screen, unless that's what you mean.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 05, 2009, 02:48:10 PM
It only shows the Severe Wx screen if there's Flash Flooding, tornado, and severe thunderstorm watches/warnings.
Okay. I guess I'll have to wait a while before I see one of those.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 06, 2009, 01:08:16 AM
I thought this was an interesting find.......
Spanaway, WA Intellistar (December 2008 Cold Weather) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNg49TBJ_30#)

Notice how the CC displayed on the LDL is different than what is used on the front page, and the use of 3 cities for the AQ forecast. I thought that was only southern California, up until this point apparently.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 06, 2009, 10:25:06 AM
Wow, nice find on the 3-city AQ forecast. Thought that was only available in SoCal these days.

On a second note, has the Outdoor Activity/School Day forecast been discontinued from regular usage? I haven't seen this screen at all since the summer. I used to see it all the time on the one minute and :08/:38 LFs. Even the non-traffic STARs rarely show it anymore. I'm lucky to see it here once in a blue moon at :28 and :58 but that's it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 06, 2009, 10:35:42 AM
Wow, nice find on the 3-city AQ forecast. Thought that was only available in SoCal these days.

On a second note, has the Outdoor Activity/School Day forecast been discontinued from regular usage? I haven't seen this screen at all since the summer. I used to see it all the time on the one minute and :08/:38 LFs. Even the non-traffic STARs rarely show it anymore. I'm lucky to see it here once in a blue moon at :28 and :58 but that's it.
Oh, I'm still seeing them. Not seeing the school day forecast right before the morning daypart like I used to though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 07, 2009, 01:00:08 PM
Radar is out as of this morning, not sure for how long though.

Also, the radar was frozen toward the end of the 11:00 AM EST hour on Friday

EDIT: Radar is back, but only one frame is available. Same case for the sat/rad too. Haven't decided if I want to upload a clip of it or not.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 11, 2009, 08:11:17 PM
Anyone want to guess when the Christmas playlist will start? I'd have to guess this coming Monday (December 14th).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 11, 2009, 09:24:51 PM
I'm thinking Wednesday or Friday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 12, 2009, 08:04:52 AM
Anyone want to guess when the Christmas playlist will start? I'd have to guess this coming Monday (December 14th).
I would assume it starts 10 daze before Christmas (which in this case would be Tuesday, the same day TWC is going digital here).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 12, 2009, 09:59:38 AM
Has anyone's LOT8s been having a rather staticy sound this morning? In the past few LFs I've been hearing static for a second or so on some of the screens, particularly the CC and traffic products.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 12, 2009, 11:28:29 AM
Has anyone's LOT8s been having a rather staticy sound this morning? In the past few LFs I've been hearing static for a second or so on some of the screens, particularly the CC and traffic products.
Yes, the buzzing is back today...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 12, 2009, 11:29:50 AM
I remember how big of a problem this was back in 2005, and now it seems to be back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 12, 2009, 11:39:47 AM
Hmm, I haven't heard any buzzing of that sort. I suppose I could look through my clip this morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on December 12, 2009, 01:02:02 PM
What causes that buzzing sound or static on the LF?  Is it just interference with something?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 12, 2009, 04:48:15 PM
So three years ago today, the rather disrespected weather icons we see today debuted...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 12, 2009, 04:50:57 PM
So three years ago today, the rather disrespected weather icons we see today debuted...
Wow, I see you beat me to mentioning it. But yeah, I will never forget the morning I turned on my TV and first saw them...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 12, 2009, 05:35:08 PM
When I first saw them I actually like them, but then a couple of days passed........ :thumbdown: Even now I only like the winter ones (excluding the freezing rain ones) and the thunderstorm ones, I just wish they had two distinct t-storm icons like they did with the XL set.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 12, 2009, 05:37:20 PM
The big thing about the original icons is how simple and straightforward they were. Very easy to tell intensity differences, and yes, there was a strong storms set.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 12, 2009, 07:47:49 PM
I didn't like them at first but I don't mind either one now... the current set is definitely more realistic than the old one. I just wish there were more icons in the set (i.e. severe storms, am clouds, fog and clouds, etc)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 12, 2009, 08:38:55 PM
I wonder how the Christmas playlist will sound like. It may start on a Monday just like it has in the previous years.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on December 12, 2009, 10:01:14 PM
I wonder how the Christmas playlist will sound like. It may start on a Monday just like it has in the previous years.

I would say Monday or Tuesday, at it's latest... Christmas is coming close.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 13, 2009, 06:33:47 AM
I keep thinking it will be 10 daze before Christmas when the Christmas list starts, like it did last year... which would make it Tuesday. But, it could start Monday as well like it also did last year. Another question is what time of day will it start?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 13, 2009, 08:27:52 AM
Probably in the Morning or Daytime playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on December 13, 2009, 08:57:37 PM
Went to Lexington today to watch the Bengals Game (lost 30-10 to MIN) and right before we left my cousin's house, he turned it on TWC. I can't confirm much, but I know the CC has multiple cities:
LEXINGTON
Nicholasville
Winchester
Didn't get ID, I plan to go back to Lexington sometime and get the ID. As for the XL in Georgetown, I still can't confirm it, all the people I know in Georgetown have satellite so, there is no hope to re-confirm in this year, I hope to do that in the next year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on December 16, 2009, 01:39:44 PM
WTF, the same song has played on the last three LFs. *head explodes*
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 16, 2009, 02:17:25 PM
I keep thinking it will be 10 daze before Christmas when the Christmas list starts, like it did last year... which would make it Tuesday. But, it could start Monday as well like it also did last year. Another question is what time of day will it start?

Sometimes it can lean towards overnight but i tend to agree with SnowManiac
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 16, 2009, 02:21:03 PM
I thought the Holiday playlist always started a week before Christmas (since 1999)? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 16, 2009, 02:22:11 PM
I guess there's no holiday list this year since TWC's been quiet about it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on December 16, 2009, 02:52:29 PM
I think there will still be something for Christmas, but it may not come until just a few days before as that's been the trend with playlists this year being delayed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on December 16, 2009, 03:13:09 PM
it's 9 days till Christmas... they should have started it by now.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 16, 2009, 03:50:41 PM
Well there's still my second guess which is Friday, they better not do it the way they did it on Halloween......... :club:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 16, 2009, 04:13:02 PM
It could be a Christmas only list...meaning they'll only play on that day
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 16, 2009, 05:06:35 PM
I asked (http://twitter.com/beanboy89/status/6738437042) TWCi about it on Twitter, but they ignored it/never replied.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 16, 2009, 05:34:36 PM
I asked ([url]http://twitter.com/beanboy89/status/6738437042[/url]) TWCi about it on Twitter, but they ignored it/never replied.

They probably don't know or have an answer yet. You can try firing an email to Brian Picard if that works
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 17, 2009, 04:20:19 PM
Interesting... the Pittsburgh regional map was updated today, removing Elkins WV, replacing it with Clarksburg WV, and adding Washington DC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 17, 2009, 04:46:55 PM
You know, I was wondering a couple things:
In the picture I am attaching of my metro map (here in Lansing), what is that icon used for Grand Rapids? I've seen that icon several times, and can't figure out what it is. I know it is not Wintry Mix.

Also, are HiRAD guesses gathered for the actual location for a city, or just for where the city is placed on the map? If that's the case, then data is being gathered for Clare in the Bay City map I attached. Mt Pleasant should be where the circle is.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 17, 2009, 04:49:39 PM
That could be the Snow/Sleet icon, it's hard to tell the difference between that one and the Wintry Mix. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 17, 2009, 04:54:23 PM
That could be the Snow/Sleet icon, it's hard to tell the difference between that one and the Wintry Mix. :hmm:
Now that I think about it, looking at the temperature being guessed for Grand Rapids, it must be a rain/sleet icon. There is a much more notable difference when the icons are animated.

As for the other question I had, I'm really curious.

Interesting... the Pittsburgh regional map was updated today, removing Elkins WV, replacing it with Clarksburg WV, and adding Washington DC.
Interesting, I always love seeing changes like that. Not sure why Elkins was removed, that was fine as it was. DC was a smart addition though. Can you get a clip?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 18, 2009, 06:58:17 AM
YAY I was right Chris Geith starts off our Xmas Playlist! The song is "Joy to the World"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 18, 2009, 06:59:45 AM
YAY I was right Chris Geith starts off our Xmas Playlist! The song is "Joy to the World"

OMG, I would have beaten you to that post if it hadn't been for this  :censored: slow desktop of mine

And since when are you online in the mornings?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 18, 2009, 07:16:33 AM
YAY I was right Chris Geith starts off our Xmas Playlist! The song is "Joy to the World"

OMG, I would have beaten you to that post if it hadn't been for this  :censored: slow desktop of mine

And since when are you online in the mornings?


I'm online in the mornings, I just don't post.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 24, 2009, 07:41:40 AM
Anyone notice the rare icon used?

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2w6z7k2.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 24, 2009, 08:01:56 AM
Wow, yet another STAR I have found that does not have the AQ forecast product available. What's interesting to me is that this unit doesn't seem to be displaying any of the outdoor activity/schoolday forecast products either... yet this STAR is not at all acting like the one I found in Port Huron. In Port Huron, the 8 city appeared on nearly every 90 second and 2 minute LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 24, 2009, 10:05:25 AM
I'm pretty sure the OA/SD forecast was discontinued from regular usage on all the STARs. I haven't seen it on mine since like October.

As for the eight city observations, you're not seeing that because of the weather bulletin screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 24, 2009, 12:09:54 PM
I'm pretty sure the OA/SD forecast was discontinued from regular usage on all the STARs. I haven't seen it on mine since like October.
My IntelliStar still shows the School Day/Outdoor Activity Forecast on a regular basis.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 24, 2009, 05:57:33 PM
I'm pretty sure the OA/SD forecast was discontinued from regular usage on all the STARs. I haven't seen it on mine since like October.
My IntelliStar still shows the School Day/Outdoor Activity Forecast on a regular basis.
Yeah, I am still seeing them on mine as well. What's more, I don't recall seeing the daypart forecast at all in Marquette  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 25, 2009, 12:48:23 AM
Interesting... the Pittsburgh regional map was updated today, removing Elkins WV, replacing it with Clarksburg WV, and adding Washington DC.
Interesting, I always love seeing changes like that. Not sure why Elkins was removed, that was fine as it was. DC was a smart addition though. Can you get a clip?

Elkins was a horrible choice for a regional map city - it only has around 7,000 people! Clarksburg is a much better choice since it's more heavily traveled through than Elkins (Clarksburg sits on I-79).

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on December 25, 2009, 06:23:23 AM
Interesting... the Pittsburgh regional map was updated today, removing Elkins WV, replacing it with Clarksburg WV, and adding Washington DC.
Interesting, I always love seeing changes like that. Not sure why Elkins was removed, that was fine as it was. DC was a smart addition though. Can you get a clip?
Elkins was a horrible choice for a regional map city - it only has around 7,000 people! Clarksburg is a much better choice since it's more heavily traveled through than Elkins (Clarksburg sits on I-79).
Oh, okay. Hey, I know Michigan better than I know West Virginia :P
That's a pretty good regional map, but I like to brag that I have the best one :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 26, 2009, 01:27:35 AM
I'm pretty sure the OA/SD forecast was discontinued from regular usage on all the STARs. I haven't seen it on mine since like October.
My IntelliStar still shows the School Day/Outdoor Activity Forecast on a regular basis.
I don't get it. I've even seen traffic IntelliStars showing the OA/SD and the daypart forecast often, but all I ever see here between the radars and local forecast are the almanac, AQ forecast, getaway, and the metro maps. The OA/SD forecast never shows anymore, and I'm lucky to see the daypart 1-2 times an hour, never when there's precip and/or incidents. I don't know what the deal is here, but I really want to see the OA/SD and daypart more often than I do.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 05, 2010, 11:35:04 AM
Still no playlist yet  :cry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 05, 2010, 01:44:47 PM
In years past the January playlist has started the 6th or 7th so hopefully we'll see a new playlist one of those days this month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on January 05, 2010, 06:03:34 PM
In years past the January playlist has started the 6th or 7th so hopefully we'll see a new playlist one of those days this month.
I hope tomorrow. I'm ready to hear some new music already.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on January 06, 2010, 07:41:10 AM
In years past the January playlist has started the 6th or 7th so hopefully we'll see a new playlist one of those days this month.
I hope tomorrow. I'm ready to hear some new music already.
Still no new playlist. <_<

* Felix smacks face.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 06, 2010, 10:29:55 AM
Also still no reply from TWC about a new playlist but i have some good news.

I sent them the Final Petition of "Indie Smooth Jazz Belongs on TWC"

Here's the finished petition below
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on January 06, 2010, 11:52:49 AM
Also still no reply from TWC about a new playlist but i have some good news.

I sent them the Final Petition of "Indie Smooth Jazz Belongs on TWC"

Here's the finished petition below
69 signatures? well it's a start at least.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 06, 2010, 04:43:30 PM
TWC is still showing plenty of indie jazz, especially on the daytime playlists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on January 07, 2010, 07:08:24 AM
Also still no reply from TWC about a new playlist but i have some good news.
Fine, I will wait for a day or two until this horrible playlist is over.

* Felix hates the Nov/Dec playlist now thanks to this. :club: :hammer:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 07, 2010, 11:32:17 AM
Geez, calm down Felix :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 07, 2010, 12:30:21 PM
My Traffic Map is gone

Is anyone else's map gone?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 07, 2010, 02:33:07 PM
My TWC video feed has been blacked out since about 1:30 PM ET. The national and STAR audio are present, but there is no video, except for the local ad inserts twice an hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 07, 2010, 03:28:27 PM
My Traffic Map is gone

Is anyone else's map gone?
Mine was fine during the 1 PM hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 07, 2010, 06:31:23 PM
Hopefully tomorrow @ 6:58am ET or at Noon a new playlist
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 07, 2010, 09:00:32 PM
My Traffic Map is gone

Is anyone else's map gone?
When data is unavailable, it won't display. Additionally, they are also taken down for routine maintenance.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 08, 2010, 07:07:32 AM
it did come back 6pm last night and it went down an hour later. maybe something graphical?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Thecoolwriter on January 08, 2010, 10:57:02 AM
I hope they do play some new music because I'm getting tired of the same ol' songs over and over again.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 08, 2010, 08:25:55 PM
The earliest the playlist can start is Sunday and the latest is next Friday imo.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on January 09, 2010, 01:29:11 AM
Yeah I'm a little fed up with this playlist too....I'm too lazy to dig up the song that seems to play 50 times a day, but this is always the first song I hear when I tune to a local forecast for some reason....

Also, why is the Mermaidman and Barnacleboy song on the playlist?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 10, 2010, 12:53:28 PM
TWC is really quiet about the music *Turns off TWC*
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on January 10, 2010, 02:03:53 PM
TWC is really quiet about the music *Turns off TWC*
Exactly. The Nov/Dec 09 playlist has to go. :hammer:

* Felix quits and gives up with the Local Forecast playlist now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 10, 2010, 02:10:08 PM
No offense, but you guys are kind of overreacting to this. It's just a music playlist, and the majority don't tune to TWC just to listen to LF music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 10, 2010, 02:22:07 PM
Right, I think we all need to calm down. Yeah, I'm sure we all are getting irritated... but TWC can't hear our frustrations.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on January 10, 2010, 02:37:37 PM
Remember how every playlist in late 2009 was constantly delayed or late?  Well, the trend is your friend here, and I'm expecting more of the same in 2010.  We're just going to have to wait it out now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 10, 2010, 02:39:10 PM
Remember how every playlist in late 2009 was constantly delayed or late?  Well, the trend is your friend here, and I'm expecting more of the same in 2010.  We're just going to have to wait it out now.
You may recall the late 90's when TWC would have quarterly, 3 month playlists (sometimes even longer) which consisted of only 10-12 songs. No dayparts either. At least right now it's not as bad - with 40 songs and different playlists for different parts of the day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on January 10, 2010, 02:46:57 PM
You may recall the late 90's when TWC would have quarterly, 3 month playlists (sometimes even longer) which consisted of only 10-12 songs. No dayparts either. At least right now it's not as bad - with 40 songs and different playlists for different parts of the day.
In the early 90's, the playlists were almost a year long.  I think that the music side is swamped with so many songs and time slots to fill as we discussed earlier in this forum.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 10, 2010, 04:58:50 PM
Remember how every playlist in late 2009 was constantly delayed or late?  Well, the trend is your friend here, and I'm expecting more of the same in 2010.  We're just going to have to wait it out now.
You may recall the late 90's when TWC would have quarterly, 3 month playlists (sometimes even longer) which consisted of only 10-12 songs. No dayparts either. At least right now it's not as bad - with 40 songs and different playlists for different parts of the day.


Yeah, but the songs they picked then were decent enough that you wouldn't care that it played for several months, I never liked this playlist since it started in November. If it had of been any other playlist besides this one I wouldn't mind it playing this long. I always mute the volume when the LF comes on or go online to get the forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 10, 2010, 05:20:16 PM
Okay clearly, quite simply put, it's NBC being lazy... no matter how you see it. They obviously have other things on their agenda... being as large a corporation as they are, finding ways to make money, stay a profitable company, and increase ratings. It's obviously not like it was before NBC took over (nor will it likely ever be) at TWC, and to see the LF music be extended in coverage time like this seems inevitable. The people behind the scenes at TWC know that there used to be quarterly and yearly playlists, and they are using that as a justification to not configure new playlists.

The things that I have said here may sound debatable, but honestly, that's how I see it. We all know our ranting and wishing will not solve anything, so the most any of us can do is hope that a new playlist comes about.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 11, 2010, 04:35:39 PM
i decided to do my own format of playlists from now on

2 sides to your local forecast which sounds better? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVYgBh8jS4#ws)

as this vid shows i did 2 sped up vids but im going to try a normal speed vid and a sped up vid after the normal vid

Which vid sounds better?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 15, 2010, 10:58:38 AM
Are the WUWA-specific music playlists gone?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 15, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
Are the WUWA-specific music playlists gone?


Seems like it, there was Normal morning music at 6am

Barnstable, MA Local Radar
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4474/caperadar2.jpg)

Boston, MA CC Screen
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7871/boston7.jpg)

Boston, MA Almanac Screen
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7063/boston8.jpg)

Boston, MA Metro Conditions
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8918/boston3b.jpg)

Boston, MA Week Ahead
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8006/boston4.jpg)

Boston, MA 8 cities (Page1)
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2889/boston5.jpg)

Boston, MA Getaway Forecast
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4599/boston6.jpg)


Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 15, 2010, 03:20:18 PM
OMG

Tony gave my friend a timeframe!

Quote
the new HD Locals will be rolling out later this Spring, I’ll know the schedule in about a month.  Check with me in a month or so and I can let you know when your system is starting them.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 15, 2010, 04:12:31 PM
Are the WUWA-specific music playlists gone?
It sure seems that way, and I seemed to confirm it when I heard Chris Geith's "Northeast Winter" at 6:49 AM EST. However, while it could just be a coincidence, I found it odd that if this really is the case, that I also heard that same song at 10:49...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 15, 2010, 04:32:28 PM
Are the WUWA-specific music playlists gone?
I hope not, I actually liked the vocal music in the morning.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 15, 2010, 05:28:44 PM
OMG

Tony gave my friend a timeframe!

Quote
the new HD Locals will be rolling out later this Spring, I’ll know the schedule in about a month.  Check with me in a month or so and I can let you know when your system is starting them.

I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on January 15, 2010, 09:15:30 PM
OMG

Tony gave my friend a timeframe!

Quote
the new HD Locals will be rolling out later this Spring, I’ll know the schedule in about a month.  Check with me in a month or so and I can let you know when your system is starting them.

I'll believe it when I see it.
Yea that sounds.... optimistic to me
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 16, 2010, 01:14:42 PM
Anyone ever seen a three page weather bulletin?

Weather Channel Local on the 8s (1/9/2010) - Florida Ice/Snow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khoQY_SSHmE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 16, 2010, 01:24:08 PM
Whoa that's excessive! :blink:
I haven't even seen a 2 page bulletin yet...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on January 16, 2010, 02:29:52 PM
Whoa that's excessive! :blink:
I haven't even seen a 2 page bulletin yet...
Me neither.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 16, 2010, 02:45:46 PM
Whoa that's excessive! :blink:
I haven't even seen a 2 page bulletin yet...
Me neither.

Thats very weird, i wonder how many pages they can do?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 16, 2010, 03:09:04 PM
I've seen two page weather bulletins on this version and the previous version of the IntelliStar, but I never seen three before.  :blink: I also think some of those watches/warnings were unnessecary imo. Like that Freeze Watch on the third page, they were already under two Hard Freeze Watches....
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 16, 2010, 03:32:56 PM
I've seen two page weather bulletins on this version and the previous version of the IntelliStar, but I never seen three before.  :blink: I also think some of those watches/warnings were unnessecary imo. Like that Freeze Watch on the third page, they were already under two Hard Freeze Watches....
I would imagine it was like that because the temperatures were not completely below freezing... and did warm into the 50's by day. Thus, the NWS has to issue Hard Freeze/Freeze Watches and Warnings for every last period that would warrant them... however unnecessary it may seem.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 20, 2010, 11:03:09 AM
Never seen this before "it's been around 30 since last night and this morning in New Bedford so this has to be a huge error"

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3779/recordd1.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 20, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
Hmm, is HiRAD out for anyone else?  :blink:

EDIT: Looks like HiRAD pulled the same trick it did back in June- only out for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 20, 2010, 05:21:25 PM
I was wondering, when there is a weather bulletin out, do they purposely skip over the regional maps and go to the radar? Like today, I'm under a Flood Watch and after showing that it went straight to the radars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 20, 2010, 05:22:37 PM
I was wondering, when there is a weather bulletin out, do they purposely skip over the regional maps and go to the radar? Like today, I'm under a Flood Watch and after showing that it went straight to the radars.
Depending on whether or not there's a local radar and traffic incidents, yes it can happen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 20, 2010, 05:29:49 PM
I was wondering, when there is a weather bulletin out, do they purposely skip over the regional maps and go to the radar? Like today, I'm under a Flood Watch and after showing that it went straight to the radars.
Depending on whether or not there's a local radar and traffic incidents, yes it can happen.

Ok, the local radar being shown is probably why then because I know it didn't do this at the beginning of the month when I was under that Winter Weather Advisory.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 21, 2010, 10:51:28 AM
HiRAD's out again! :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 21, 2010, 10:58:02 AM
i like seeing the radar 1st! on :08/18/38/48 so i get to see more maps on the 18/48.

Star reboot @ 1:08pm ET and Hirad prob fixed as of 1:10pm
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 21, 2010, 03:25:23 PM
D'oh, missed it :angry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 22, 2010, 01:11:24 PM
Here's 3 vids of it

New Bedford Intellistar: National HiRAD Outage 2010 Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSPhB4zvWxk&fmt=18#ws)

New Bedford Intellistar: National HiRAD Outage 2010 Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Dkr1M52kg&fmt=18#)

New Bedford Intellistar: National HiRAD Fix Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TwR-D6LezQ&fmt=18#)

I'm wishing for a Traffic Outage + HiRAD Outage!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on January 22, 2010, 02:07:21 PM
I aplogize if this is the wrong place to ask this, but does anyone know if the attached songs are "WMG safe"? I'm wayyyy out of the swing of things, and I have no idea what's safe and what's not anymore. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 22, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
I aplogize if this is the wrong place to ask this, but does anyone know if the attached songs are "WMG safe"? I'm wayyyy out of the swing of things, and I have no idea what's safe and what's not anymore. Thanks! :)

Song 1: Ads

Song 2: Clean

Song 3: Clean

Song 4: Clean

Song 5: Clean
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 22, 2010, 05:36:26 PM
I aplogize if this is the wrong place to ask this, but does anyone know if the attached songs are "WMG safe"? I'm wayyyy out of the swing of things, and I have no idea what's safe and what's not anymore. Thanks! :)
Song 1: Young Holt Unlimited- Soulful Strut
Song2: Isaac Hayes- Shaft
Song3:John Williams- Jurassic Park Theme
Song4: Sam Spence- Magnificent Eleven (love that song)
Song5: Gooding- Two Masters One Muse

none are WMG songs but u may get ads
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 22, 2010, 06:23:55 PM
Oh wow, I need to get my videos of the HiRAD outage up... can't believe I haven't done that yet :blink:
And you would think I would have gotten them up right away :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 23, 2010, 12:33:47 PM
Big Radar Glitch @ :18

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5804/rglitch1.jpg)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/770/rglitch2.jpg)

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on January 23, 2010, 01:12:55 PM
Big Radar Glitch @ :18

Usually happens when there is a problem processing the radar images (at TWC) or an issue/diruption in the transfer process to the STARs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 23, 2010, 02:08:51 PM
Big Radar Glitch @ :18

Usually happens when there is a problem processing the radar images (at TWC) or an issue/diruption in the transfer process to the STARs.

Thanks for the clarification Martin, also due to that happening the Radar on Wxscan Rebooted (loop only moving up to 1.5hrs)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 24, 2010, 01:23:04 AM
I was doing a search on Flickr for "weather channel" and found this:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/2868633916_1d78024106.jpg)

The uploader says it's from Alaska. Poor 4000. :(


EDIT: And an XL from International Falls, MN! :o

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/175/419888827_8774bf0464.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on January 24, 2010, 02:01:27 AM
There's still legacy stars out there, but you just have to know where to find them. :yes:

I'd feel bad if I were looking at that International Falls LF as that's real cold! :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 24, 2010, 08:20:21 AM
There's still legacy stars out there, but you just have to know where to find them. :yes:

I'd feel bad if I were looking at that International Falls LF as that's real cold! :blink:

Yeah, I would like to see a legacy STAR  this year. I wonder if Perry,GA still has that XL down there. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 24, 2010, 08:23:00 AM
I know of a few locations that may still have undiscovered legacy STARs in northern Michigan, but I am not in the position to record a STAR I have already seen. Even though Charter does not list locations in Rogers City and Gaylord, I think those may be places to try. When I went to Marquette, my original intent was to stay in Newberry, a small town in the eastern part of the UP. I'm also looking at Oscoda and Tawas City.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 24, 2010, 08:24:07 AM
There's still legacy stars out there, but you just have to know where to find them. :yes:

I'd feel bad if I were looking at that International Falls LF as that's real cold! :blink:

Yeah, I would like to see a legacy STAR  this year. I wonder if Perry,GA still has that XL down there. :thinking:
me too I heard they still used v2. Not surprised with a legacy in AK. There are bound to be dozens of legacies in the remote AK communities
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 24, 2010, 08:30:23 AM
Hai Patrick :wave:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40397489@N00/390646896/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40397489@N00/390646896/#)
:bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on January 24, 2010, 12:36:45 PM
Hai Patrick :wave:
[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/40397489@N00/390646896/#[/url] ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/40397489@N00/390646896/#[/url])
:bleh:

That shot was definitely from the Valentine's Day Blizzard of 2007, so I was certainly watching my LF at that time. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 24, 2010, 01:30:21 PM
It appears that the :58 intellistar flavor also airs at :28 now during DP and WN.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 24, 2010, 01:41:42 PM
The backup playlist is playing with David Becker Tribune at 1:38pm
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 24, 2010, 01:46:20 PM
It appears that the :58 Intellistar flavor also airs at :28 now during DP and WN.
I thought they were always the same flavor, since the idea is generally to air the same flavor twice an hour during normal programming :yes:

The backup playlist is playing with David Becker Tribune at 1:38pm
Hmm, that's odd... I heard "Turning Pages" by Mark Krurnowski
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 24, 2010, 01:50:46 PM
It appears that the :58 Intellistar flavor also airs at :28 now during DP and WN.
I thought they were always the same flavor, since the idea is generally to air the same flavor twice an hour during normal programming :yes:

The backup playlist is playing with David Becker Tribune at 1:38pm
Hmm, that's odd... I heard "Turning Pages" by Mark Krurnowski

I meant to say I was hearing it on my STAR, most likely because of the severe weather moving in.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 24, 2010, 04:27:28 PM
The :28 LF used to have its own flavor during middays that was somewhat similar to the :08/:38 flavor, except it had the getaway forecast instead of the metro/regional maps. Now it uses the same playlist the :58 LF uses.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 24, 2010, 04:58:59 PM
No opener preceded the 4:58 PM LF, even though there was a commercial break before that. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 24, 2010, 05:00:11 PM
No opener preceded the 4:58 PM LF, even though there was a commercial break before that. :wacko:
That's how they've been doing long-form all weekend. I guess they're trying out a new schedule for Weather Proof and Cantore's Stories.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 24, 2010, 05:02:23 PM
At least it aired on the 8's though. Last night, it aired at :55. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 24, 2010, 05:05:12 PM
At least it aired on the 8's though. Last night, it aired at :55. :blink:

I saw one air at 3:22pm.  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 24, 2010, 08:31:20 PM
Do they not show LF's during Storm Stories anymore? They just went right onto the next episode at 8:29 after the previous episode ended.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 24, 2010, 08:38:26 PM
Do they not show LF's during Storm Stories anymore? They just went right onto the next episode at 8:29 after the previous episode ended.

I guess it could be something new they're messing around with.  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 25, 2010, 03:28:29 PM
My Star is suffering Severe degration It really need to be updated/rebooted

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3052/degration1.jpg)

(http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8883/degration2.jpg)

(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3585/degration3.jpg)

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7274/degration4.jpg)

(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2079/degration5.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on January 25, 2010, 03:42:05 PM
My Star is suffering Severe degration It really need to be updated/rebooted

intellistar's don't go through degradation...might want to rethink that one. they're too young.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 25, 2010, 04:31:56 PM
It could just be me, but the first 3 images just look like the local forecast fading out to me... unless there is some scrambling there (can't tell if that is the STAR's video output or your tuner). I've seen multiple STAR video issues myself (including when 22842's video went completely out while the sound was fine back in May).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 25, 2010, 04:36:57 PM
Itcould just be me, but the first 3 images just look like the local forecast fading out to me... unless there is some scrambling there (can't tell if that is the STAR's video output or your tuner). I've seen multiple STAR video issues myself (including when 22842's video went completely out while the sound was fine back in May).

Has to be the star's output because my tuner is working just fine.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 28, 2010, 05:36:55 PM
Does anyone have an audio or video clip of the Wayne Gerard song, "I'm All About You"? It played in October 2006. The video with that song has been removed on YT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 30, 2010, 02:05:42 PM
Looks like the Perry, GA XL finally got its graphics upgrade. :cry3: :cry3:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28883310@N03/2700782334/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28883310@N03/2700782334/#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 30, 2010, 02:15:57 PM
Looks like the Perry, GA XL finally got its graphics upgrade. :cry3: :cry3:

[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/28883310@N03/2700782334/#[/url] ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/28883310@N03/2700782334/#[/url])

Either that or the LaGrange XL
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 30, 2010, 03:25:02 PM
Looks like the Perry, GA XL finally got its graphics upgrade. :cry3: :cry3:

[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/28883310@N03/2700782334/#[/url] ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/28883310@N03/2700782334/#[/url])


That's cool, at least they still have an XL  :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 30, 2010, 08:19:47 PM
What if... at 8:18pm et Daytime in the primetime slot O_o

Edit: now Bossa licious @ :28
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 30, 2010, 08:33:32 PM
What if... at 8:18pm et Daytime in the primetime slot O_o

Edit: now Bossa licious @ :28
WTF I just heard Bossalicious as well. I'm sure this is just a fluke. O_O
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 30, 2010, 08:40:17 PM
Wow, glad I'm not the only one noticing this. Bossa-licious at 8:38 PM EST as well...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 31, 2010, 09:01:08 AM
lol, even though we already know about this unit, this was an interesting find :P

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dstroma/357692903/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dstroma/357692903/#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on January 31, 2010, 01:16:49 PM
lol, even though we already know about this unit, this was an interesting find :P

[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/dstroma/357692903/#[/url] ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/dstroma/357692903/#[/url])

Likely out of Youngstown, OH, wouldn't be surprised, they are a small college town
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 31, 2010, 01:21:18 PM
lol, even though we already know about this unit, this was an interesting find :P

[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/dstroma/357692903/#[/url] ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/dstroma/357692903/#[/url])

Likely out of Youngstown, OH, wouldn't be surprised, they are a small college town

Nope, it's Youngstown, PA.  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 31, 2010, 02:35:57 PM
lol, even though we already know about this unit, this was an interesting find :P

[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/dstroma/357692903/#[/url] ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/dstroma/357692903/#[/url])

Likely out of Youngstown, OH, wouldn't be surprised, they are a small college town

Nope, it's Youngstown, PA.  ;)


You're both wrong...it's from the Sharon, PA XL. Youngstown, OH has had the Istar for years, and Youngstown, PA is served by the Greensburg Istar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 31, 2010, 04:33:01 PM
Hmm, how recently was the Youngstown, OH STAR upgraded? My mom seems to remember the 4000 graphics there at some point.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 31, 2010, 05:34:28 PM
I was there in late 2005 and they had it already.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 31, 2010, 05:44:48 PM
Wow, must have been a while then. Say, do you know how often TWC updates the temperature records on the Intellistar almanacs? I noticed that on 12/27, the old record of 55 (set in 1959) was still showing on my almanac for the airport here, but it was broken by a new record of 61 back in 2008.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 31, 2010, 06:01:14 PM
Every few years I think..they probably haven't done it recently since all focus has been on the HD STAR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 31, 2010, 06:14:06 PM
Anyone know if the Heat Safety Tips screen is still on any current IntelliStar playlist/flavor lineup?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 31, 2010, 07:59:03 PM
Anyone know if the Heat Safety Tips screen is still on any current IntelliStar playlist/flavor lineup?
That's a good question... I would think so.

Anyways, wow, I just learned something new today about the Intellistar. As I'm sure everyone already knows, London, Canada is my regional map. I found it interesting that moderate snow was being shown on my regional map on the LF at 7:48 PM EST there, so I decided to check out the report from Environment Canada for London Int'l (I attached a picture of the forecast page with the CC). I notice that London Int'l was actually reporting Light Snow. So then I look at the visibility reading, and see it is 0.4 km, which I then found out was equivalent to a quarter mile. Here I thought the Intellistar only took into account the temperature and the actual CC report all this time. Interesting, imo  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on February 01, 2010, 02:09:30 AM
Anyone know if the Heat Safety Tips screen is still on any current IntelliStar playlist/flavor lineup?
Its still on the lineup as far as I know. However the priority is so low that you rarely will see it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 03, 2010, 10:40:07 AM
Hartford, CT Regional Doppler  :D

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3969/connradar.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 05, 2010, 06:56:17 PM
For those of you who haven't seen "blizzard" or "blowing snow" in a local forecast here you go:
Local forecast 2/5/10- 6:28pm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Jo_hY6IJA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on February 07, 2010, 09:05:43 AM
I'm sure that "blizzard" icon would like even nicer if it animated the snow going all over the place. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 07, 2010, 10:41:01 AM
Here's the problem with animation of icons on the LF app: look closely in this video, and the icon at the beginning doesn't even look fully transparent. :no:

HOLY **** IT'S SNOWING IN FLORIDA!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mYOsCUWQjo#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 07, 2010, 11:18:45 AM
Here's the problem with animation of icons on the LF app: look closely in this video, and the icon at the beginning doesn't even look fully transparent. :no:

HOLY **** IT'S SNOWING IN FLORIDA!!!! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mYOsCUWQjo#[/url])

You don't have TWC HD anymore? You don't upload those clips anymore
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 07, 2010, 11:41:55 AM
Here's the problem with animation of icons on the LF app: look closely in this video, and the icon at the beginning doesn't even look fully transparent. :no:

HOLY **** IT'S SNOWING IN FLORIDA!!!! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mYOsCUWQjo#[/url])

You don't have TWC HD anymore? You don't upload those clips anymore

I do still have it, but I just have no way of compressing the videos I record of it into 16:9. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 07, 2010, 01:10:25 PM
Here's the problem with animation of icons on the LF app: look closely in this video, and the icon at the beginning doesn't even look fully transparent. :no:

HOLY **** IT'S SNOWING IN FLORIDA!!!! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mYOsCUWQjo#[/url])

You don't have TWC HD anymore? You don't upload those clips anymore

I do still have it, but I just have no way of compressing the videos I record of it into 16:9. :no:

Say Zach, I don't suppose you could record the two Chris Geith songs this month in stereo?? I know for a fact they're not gonna be released on his new CD....
In regards to the jr emulation, sorry about that. I did make one, I just forgot to send it. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 07, 2010, 01:27:53 PM
Here's the problem with animation of icons on the LF app: look closely in this video, and the icon at the beginning doesn't even look fully transparent. :no:

HOLY **** IT'S SNOWING IN FLORIDA!!!! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mYOsCUWQjo#[/url])

You don't have TWC HD anymore? You don't upload those clips anymore

I do still have it, but I just have no way of compressing the videos I record of it into 16:9. :no:

Say Zach, I don't suppose you could record the two Chris Geith songs this month in stereo?? I know for a fact they're not gonna be released on his new CD....
In regards to the jr emulation, sorry about that. I did make one, I just forgot to send it. ;)

I haven't been around my TV lately but I can try to hook up an audio jack from my receiver to my laptop and record it through Audacity. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on February 10, 2010, 08:10:58 AM
Finally, I got a reply to a PM I sent to a user who lives in Davison, on the east side of Flint. He got a video up of his Intellistar:
Local on the 8's - Snow Storm in Flint/Davison, Michigan 2-10-10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaqiSZtdtvQ#)

Definitely one of the most interesting configurations I have seen. Note the seemingly bigger focus on the many smaller towns dotted about east central Michigan (i.e. the use of Ithaca, my mom's home town, on the metro map instead of Alma which is twice as big). Also check out the error with Oakland and Pontiac on the bottom of the metro map- plus, Oakland is the name of that county, and no such city exists. Also note the big focus on Flint.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on February 10, 2010, 09:46:33 AM
Finally, I got a reply to a PM I sent to a user who lives in Davison, on the east side of Flint. He got a video up of his Intellistar:
Local on the 8's - Snow Storm in Flint/Davison, Michigan 2-10-10 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaqiSZtdtvQ#[/url])

Definitely one of the most interesting configurations I have seen. Note the seemingly bigger focus on the many smaller towns dotted about east central Michigan (i.e. the use of Ithaca, my mom's home town, on the metro map instead of Alma which is twice as big). Also check out the error with Oakland and Pontiac on the bottom of the metro map- plus, Oakland is the name of that county, and no such city exists. Also note the big focus on Flint.

Wow, the metro map looks like my old WS 4K Emulator map, til I cleaned it up :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 12, 2010, 07:34:57 PM
Does anyone know where this song is available?
Local forecast 11/17/05 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_EhX5Jfo-Y#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 14, 2010, 08:21:32 AM
Is the CC narration on the IntelliStar disabled during the LF that comes on at :48 during Weekend Now?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 14, 2010, 08:34:27 AM
Is the CC narration on the IntelliStar disabled during the LF that comes on at :48 during Weekend Now?  :dunno:
It doesn't always play depending on how long the screen shows. I noticed this happens a lot when all three traffic screens and the 8-city obs are both showing (which shortens the duration of the CC screen).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on February 14, 2010, 08:48:20 AM
For those of us non-traffic viewers, there are all kinds of factors that affect whether or not the CC screen displays and for how long. On the :08/:38, I can sometimes see the normal length for the front page along with narration... then I may see the metro map AND the 8 city or it will go straight to the 8 city. Sometimes I see it, but it is not on long enough for it to be narrated... and it goes to the metro map and then the 8 city. If the local radar is showing, then I will not see the front page at all at :08/:38, but if the weather bulletin is displaying (without the local radar), then I will see a brief appearance of the front page between the bulletin and the 8 city. Sheesh, it's crazy lol.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on February 14, 2010, 09:22:13 AM
Finally, I got a reply to a PM I sent to a user who lives in Davison, on the east side of Flint. He got a video up of his Intellistar:
Local on the 8's - Snow Storm in Flint/Davison, Michigan 2-10-10 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaqiSZtdtvQ#[/url])

Definitely one of the most interesting configurations I have seen. Note the seemingly bigger focus on the many smaller towns dotted about east central Michigan (i.e. the use of Ithaca, my mom's home town, on the metro map instead of Alma which is twice as big). Also check out the error with Oakland and Pontiac on the bottom of the metro map- plus, Oakland is the name of that county, and no such city exists. Also note the big focus on Flint.

Thats a lot of snow in the forecast :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 14, 2010, 09:47:30 AM
Thanks Mike and Aaron for explaining it to me, it's pretty rare for me to not hear CC narration so I thought it was odd not to hear it at all during that time when WN was on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 14, 2010, 10:15:39 AM
The presence and duration of the CC screen also depends on how many dayparts there are on the text-based forecast. On rare occasions I see it here at :08/:38.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on February 14, 2010, 12:10:00 PM
I kind of wish the CC screen appeared every time though as that seems higher in priority to me than some of the other features that you sometimes see in a LF.  It must be a challenge to handle all these screens when special ones are needed during severe weather.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on February 14, 2010, 12:17:20 PM
I kind of wish the CC screen appeared every time though as that seems higher in priority to me than some of the other features that you sometimes see in a LF.  It must be a challenge to handle all these screens when special ones are needed during severe weather.
I agree, it is a high priority as many of the icons look too much like each other. It's obvious how the front page CC can be added back to the :18/:48 LFs... do you really need to see both the metro AND regional guesses in the same LF?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on February 14, 2010, 07:30:09 PM
omg, this is ridiculous. Shaft, Olympic Spirit, and The Theme From Jurassic Park have anchored the past 90 minutes. I need to hear how Eminence Front sounds on 22842.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 14, 2010, 08:05:39 PM
omg, this is ridiculous. Shaft, Olympic Spirit, and The Theme From Jurassic Park have anchored the past 90 minutes. I need to hear how Eminence Front sounds on 22842.
Aaron, do any of those songs sound different on 22840 compared to 22842?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on February 14, 2010, 09:17:10 PM
omg, this is ridiculous. Shaft, Olympic Spirit, and The Theme From Jurassic Park have anchored the past 90 minutes. I need to hear how Eminence Front sounds on 22842.
Aaron, do any of those songs sound different on 22840 compared to 22842?
Shaft does... though I didn't catch a clip of it. I have to record 22842 with a camera until I find some way to get a TV tuner over there. I'm going back to my dad's on Tuesday, so I'll see what I can catch then.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on February 17, 2010, 03:49:45 PM
Anyone have an idea what may have happened here?
TWC [HD] Local Forecast- 2/17/10 Local Forecast Blooper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwmnL-hMq0#)

What I take from this is:
1) It is a pre-recorded segment, that was mistakenly aired instead of the LF music. I believe this because if you'll notice, the person talking gets cut off by a live shot with Kim Perez.
2) I believe it is Mike Bettes talking... but wow, some of the things he says :P

I don't know for sure who it is talking or who he is talking to, nor do I know if this also occurred for the SD viewers.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 17, 2010, 05:59:16 PM
Anyone have an idea what may have happened here?
TWC [HD] Local Forecast- 2/17/10 Local Forecast Blooper ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwmnL-hMq0#[/url])

What I take from this is:
1) It is a pre-recorded segment, that was mistakenly aired instead of the LF music. I believe this because if you'll notice, the person talking gets cut off by a live shot with Kim Perez.
2) I believe it is Mike Bettes talking... but wow, some of the things he says :P

I don't know for sure who it is talking or who he is talking to, nor do I know if this also occurred for the SD viewers.


That's definitely Mike Bettes. I wonder who he was talking about when he said "When you're young and dumb you'll do just about anything."  :lol:

This reminds me of the two videos I saw of Vivian Brown and Jennetta Jones of the same error.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on February 17, 2010, 06:14:24 PM
Where was Mike this morning?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on February 17, 2010, 06:23:52 PM
Where was Mike this morning?
I'm not sure, but that sounds like a behind the scenes recording from back during the hurricane season... note how he says "A monster hurricane beats down on-".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on February 18, 2010, 11:51:21 AM
Where was Mike this morning?
I'm not sure, but that sounds like a behind the scenes recording from back during the hurricane season... note how he says "A monster hurricane beats down on-".
He could also have been doing a recording for a future long-form program that features a hurricane, too.  It's not the first time that an OCM has left his or her microphone on during a LF to where we hear the OCM talk with or without the normal LF music.  Just ask Jeanetta Jones as she did it several times during the 90s, and I even found two YT videos to prove it. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 20, 2010, 06:32:42 PM
I think there was a late IS cue at :28. LOT8s bug cued late. Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on February 20, 2010, 10:48:41 PM
I think there was a late IS cue at :28. LOT8s bug cued late. Can anyone confirm this?
I can. Nearly recorded it with two tuners :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 01, 2010, 06:13:25 PM
 :blink: :wacko: :blink: :wacko:

(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9044/59811240.jpg)

Snapshot courtesy of Molly (taken by me, but from a video she sent me).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 01, 2010, 06:32:29 PM
Looks like something when wrong when it rendered the image. Interesting
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 01, 2010, 06:43:26 PM
The LDL appears to be broken right now, at least on the DirecTV IS. At 6:40 PM ET, the bottom part of the LDL slid in, and then it disappeared right away.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 01, 2010, 06:59:20 PM
My DirecTV LF is doing crazy things. anyone know the glitch at the beginning?
March 2010 Primetime 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CXyGse6AM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 01, 2010, 07:08:58 PM
My DirecTV LF is doing crazy things. anyone know the glitch at the beginning?
March 2010 Primetime 3 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CXyGse6AM#[/url])

I think I just posted that same thing. :wacko:

:blink: :wacko: :blink: :wacko:

([url]http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9044/59811240.jpg[/url])

Snapshot courtesy of Molly (taken by me, but from a video she sent me).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 01, 2010, 07:10:48 PM
There's no background music :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 01, 2010, 08:00:14 PM
The LDL appears to be broken right now, at least on the DirecTV IS. At 6:40 PM ET, the bottom part of the LDL slid in, and then it disappeared right away.
Wonder if they are testing/upgrading it for the near future  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 01, 2010, 09:41:48 PM
The LDL appears to be broken right now, at least on the DirecTV IS. At 6:40 PM ET, the bottom part of the LDL slid in, and then it disappeared right away.
Wonder if they are testing/upgrading it for the near future  :thinking:
yes seems likely in preparation of the new ldl
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 02, 2010, 10:58:53 AM
Still no playlist >_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 02, 2010, 02:39:05 PM
The DirecTV IntelliStar LDL is still not working.

The DirecTV LF app "GET LOCAL WEATHER NOW/CLEAR" bar is now at the right top corner of the screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 02, 2010, 04:08:57 PM
The DirecTV IntelliStar LDL is still not working.

Because it's most likely for preparations for the new LDL as I said above...

DirecTV did the same thing disabling the LDL 12 hours before the DirecTV LF debuted in Sept 08
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tuez13 on March 02, 2010, 04:25:23 PM
New LDL would be sweet!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 02, 2010, 04:41:08 PM
:blink: :wacko: :blink: :wacko:

([url]http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9044/59811240.jpg[/url])

Snapshot courtesy of Molly (taken by me, but from a video she sent me).

What's funny is that I actually saw that same thing when the Intellistar cued a few seconds late at 6:18 AM EST this morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 03, 2010, 07:06:31 PM
Does WUWA have a set playlist, or is it a different song each time?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 03, 2010, 07:24:34 PM
Does WUWA have a set playlist, or is it a different song each time?
They have a set of songs that play each day (i.e. the song that plays at 6:48 AM ET also airs at 10:48 AM ET that morning), which change from day to day. It's been like this since the week of Labor Day, IIRC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 03, 2010, 07:48:03 PM
Does WUWA have a set playlist, or is it a different song each time?
They have a set of songs that play each day (i.e. the song that plays at 6:48 AM ET also airs at 10:48 AM ET that morning), which change from day to day. It's been like this since the week of Labor Day, IIRC.
Aww that's a shame. So I won't hear a song that aired say.. 2 weeks ago on WUWA? :/
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 03, 2010, 09:10:10 PM
They do often recycle songs used previously so you may hear it again.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 03, 2010, 10:07:25 PM
Does WUWA have a set playlist, or is it a different song each time?
They have a set of songs that play each day (i.e. the song that plays at 6:48 AM ET also airs at 10:48 AM ET that morning), which change from day to day. It's been like this since the week of Labor Day, IIRC.
Aww that's a shame. So I won't hear a song that aired say.. 2 weeks ago on WUWA? :/
OMG Derek, since when did vocal music on WUWA interest you? That's something I don't expect from you! :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 04, 2010, 10:04:04 AM
lol like I've said, I've become totally different these last few months. I listen to plenty of other stuff besides TWC jazz all the time. And one of the songs I heard on WUWA was one of my favorite non-TWC songs. Only I'm not really sure at what time this WUWA playlist runs..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 04, 2010, 02:58:06 PM
lol like I've said, I've become totally different these last few months. I listen to plenty of other stuff besides TWC jazz all the time. And one of the songs I heard on WUWA was one of my favorite non-TWC songs. Only I'm not really sure at what time this WUWA playlist runs..
Yeah, these past couple of years, I've learned to listen to almost anything. That's why I don't usually hate a song that airs on the local forecast unless it really is bad.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 06, 2010, 09:51:03 AM
Something isn't right here... how can an accident be "scheduled" until noon Sunday? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 06, 2010, 12:58:20 PM
Something isn't right here... how can an accident be "scheduled" until noon Sunday? :blink:
Wow, I knew the Garden State Parkway was bad at times, but I didn't know that your area could "schedule" accidents! :rofl2:  I'm hoping in reality that they plan to reopen the lanes that are blocked on Sunday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 06, 2010, 01:17:12 PM
Have you been on the Parkway before Patrick? That highway is HEAVILY congested during summer weekends, especially from the AC Expressway southward.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 06, 2010, 01:19:00 PM
Have you been on the Parkway before Patrick? That highway is HEAVILY congested during summer weekends, especially from the AC Expressway southward.
I've only been on it once, but that one experience was enough for me even though I didn't see any accidents.  I'm aware why the traffic portion of your LF would be so busy now based on some stories others in NJ have shared with me over the years.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 06, 2010, 01:21:52 PM
Yeah, I almost always see traffic accidents and construction coming from the NJ Turnpike and the Parkway. Those roads are hectic.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 06, 2010, 05:45:43 PM
Anyone have any idea how this happens? I find it interesting that this happened again, considering I caught just back in November...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 06, 2010, 07:35:53 PM
The weather.com reports for Dewitt (where the airport is) doesn't show a 95 degree reading at all for yesterday, so that is a mystery.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 06, 2010, 07:57:23 PM
Yea probably just a sensor error
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 06, 2010, 08:52:11 PM
Well what's funny is that when this happened back in November
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5465/110409almanacerror.jpg)

102 (coincidentally our all time record high) was reported for a high, but also a low of 4 was reported... which was a daily record low that day.

This time though, it's only the high that is mistaken. But if you look at the F6 report for Lansing... the high appears as normal (I have attached it here). Also Mike, the information that shows up on the almanac actually is directly from the airport itself... and is not HiRAD based.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 06, 2010, 09:32:25 PM

This time though, it's only the high that is mistaken. But if you look at the F6 report for Lansing... the high appears as normal (I have attached it here). Also Mike, the information that shows up on the almanac actually is directly from the airport itself... and is not HiRAD based.
Nobody said anything about hirad
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan on March 06, 2010, 10:40:42 PM
Weird error.

I wished I lived in a city that had the almanac in the LF while I had cable instead of seeing moon phases and sunrise/set times.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 06, 2010, 10:47:12 PM
Weird error.

I wished I lived in a city that had the almanac in the LF while I had cable instead of seeing moon phases and sunrise/set times.
That's still the almanac. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 07, 2010, 08:41:22 AM

This time though, it's only the high that is mistaken. But if you look at the F6 report for Lansing... the high appears as normal (I have attached it here). Also Mike, the information that shows up on the almanac actually is directly from the airport itself... and is not HiRAD based.
Nobody said anything about hirad
It just sounded like he was talking about HiRAD since he mentioned weather.com's report for Dewitt for yesterday, and we all know how dependent TWC is on the NWS these daze :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 09, 2010, 09:35:00 PM
Is it possible to have only one line on a daypart of the text based?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 09, 2010, 09:45:46 PM
Is it possible to have only one line on a daypart of the text based?
I remember a couple times it being like this on version one (may have video of it too), but I don't think it's possible on the current version because of how the margins on the text area is smaller due to the weather graphics on the right.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 09, 2010, 10:17:48 PM
Is it possible to have only one line on a daypart of the text based?
I remember a couple times it being like this on version one (may have video of it too), but I don't think it's possible on the current version because of how the margins on the text area is smaller due to the weather graphics on the right.

Right. With the v1 IntelliStar it was possible to have a one-line text-based forecast, but with v2, the shortest you can have will always extend to the second line.

(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/249/isv1text.jpg)(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/940/isv2text.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 10, 2010, 06:00:06 AM
Hmm, okay, that's what I had thought. I was just thinking that if it would say "Sunny" instead of "Cloudy" there, it might be able to squeeze on one line. But it makes sense since I have never seen it. Now this brings me to another question... is it possible to have two pages for one daypart? I know I've never seen it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 10, 2010, 10:59:19 AM
Hmm, okay, that's what I had thought. I was just thinking that if it would say "Sunny" instead of "Cloudy" there, it might be able to squeeze on one line. But it makes sense since I have never seen it. Now this brings me to another question... is it possible to have two pages for one daypart? I know I've never seen it.

They Could do that, only if the pointless weather graphics were gone.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 10, 2010, 02:37:34 PM
My IntelliStar now has three observation and forecast points on the LDL: Downtown Hanover, Gettysburg, and York.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 10, 2010, 03:38:37 PM
My IntelliStar now has three current condition and forecast points on the LDL: Downtown Hanover, Gettysburg, and York.
You just now got that feature? I was one of the earliest at getting it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on March 10, 2010, 05:00:26 PM
Here's a screen shot from the HD LF with the new icons.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 10, 2010, 05:06:02 PM
they also changed the fonts and sizes on the HD LDL
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: hen7713 on March 10, 2010, 05:30:17 PM
I must admit, I like the older icons better.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 10, 2010, 05:34:26 PM
they also changed the fonts and sizes on the HD LDL
just the temp font seems changed to me...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: narunetto on March 10, 2010, 05:40:19 PM
I must admit, I like the older icons better.
I dunno, I don't mind the new ones. I bet a lot of peoplein the general audience will like the change (if they notice it, you never know.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 10, 2010, 05:55:18 PM
I can see this one coming now :rolleyes: :P

(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2366/tampaxlupgradedicons.png)

(sorry...had to do it...:bleh:)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 10, 2010, 09:11:05 PM
My IntelliStar now has three current condition and forecast points on the LDL: Downtown Hanover, Gettysburg, and York.
You just now got that feature? I was one of the earliest at getting it.
No, you weren't. Did you have it when the blue LDL premiered?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 10, 2010, 09:14:18 PM
Billy, did you request that change to TWC?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 10, 2010, 09:18:01 PM
Billy, did you request that change to TWC?
No. I did request that they fix my Getaway Forecast (it was still showing summer locations and Ocean City, MD was unavailable since November), and I guess they added it then.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 11, 2010, 03:23:55 PM
Final Transmission of 2006-2010 icons

Final Transmission of TWC's previous Icons set 2006-2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LnkF-tTxpE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tuez13 on March 12, 2010, 02:11:45 AM
Final Transmission of 2006-2010 icons

Final Transmission of TWC's previous Icons set 2006-2010 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LnkF-tTxpE#[/url])


RIP realistic icons and WeatherCenter lower thirds  :cry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 12, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
i found the Reincarnation of Wayman!!!!!!

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/julianvaughn2 (http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/julianvaughn2)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 13, 2010, 01:49:42 AM
Final Transmission of 2006-2010 icons

Final Transmission of TWC's previous Icons set 2006-2010 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LnkF-tTxpE#[/url])


RIP realistic icons and WeatherCenter lower thirds  :cry:

Miss the old lower thirds already :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 16, 2010, 05:55:51 PM
Icon fail.

(http://e.imagehost.org/0608/snapshot20100316175336.png)

I highly doubt the sun is out at 9pm in Minneapolis this time of year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 16, 2010, 06:21:56 PM
Icon fail.

([url]http://e.imagehost.org/0608/snapshot20100316175336.png[/url])

I highly doubt the sun is out at 9pm in Minneapolis this time of year.

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7222/scatteredshowersnightne.png)

:P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 16, 2010, 06:27:24 PM
([url]http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7222/scatteredshowersnightne.png[/url])

:P

Hey Zach, where'd you get that?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 16, 2010, 06:29:41 PM
([url]http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7222/scatteredshowersnightne.png[/url])

:P

Hey Zach, where'd you get that?

I made it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on March 17, 2010, 05:50:31 AM
([url]http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7222/scatteredshowersnightne.png[/url])

:P

Hey Zach, where'd you get that?

I made it. :thumbsup:


thats what she said!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tuez13 on March 17, 2010, 08:00:19 AM
OH SNAP!!!!  hahaha
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 17, 2010, 03:44:49 PM
Uhh what are you guys talking about? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 17, 2010, 03:47:51 PM
Uhh what are you guys talking about? :huh:
i was about to ask that same question :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anistorm on March 17, 2010, 04:00:00 PM
It's just a random moment. It happens. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tuez13 on March 17, 2010, 06:21:28 PM
Yeah, I think you kinda had to be there...but it seemed funny to me at the time!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 17, 2010, 06:44:25 PM
some weird Traffic Report

Incident, RT-146 SB
   
Medium impact - at I-295 - accident blocking the right lane and the left lane - Traffic getting by in the middle lane.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 19, 2010, 11:29:13 AM
How would this map color look?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msfIQHXHX8M&fmt=18



Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tuez13 on March 19, 2010, 04:25:34 PM
It looks normal to me, aside from the higher overall color and contrast of the entire video.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 21, 2010, 12:55:50 PM
I don't know when this occurred, but I noticed yesterday that all the display names on the segments of my IntelliStar was simplified to "Atlanta" including the Almanac which makes absolutely no sense when the display name was previously Hartsfield-Jackson Int'l Airport where the almanac data is observed and records are kept. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 23, 2010, 05:48:36 PM
I don't know when this occurred, but I noticed yesterday that all the display names on the segments of my IntelliStar was simplified to "Atlanta" including the Almanac which makes absolutely no sense when the display name was previously Hartsfield-Jackson Int'l Airport where the almanac data is observed and records are kept.

Interesting how Joseph has reported this same thing on his Intellistar in the Bronx. The forecast title and even his CC site was changed to "New York", as seen in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQYCDXAey6I
Could this mean something?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 23, 2010, 05:54:40 PM
My Star is acting weird,

Notice the attachment, ever since last Thursday morning @ 4:38am my star froze on the Traffic Overview map and cut to satellite then ever since then it showed up as a huge error with color coded errors.

This has to be either local or nationwide?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 23, 2010, 07:39:52 PM
That is a known, nationwide error.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 23, 2010, 07:47:06 PM
That is a known, nationwide error.

Thanks for answering Tyler, i was wondering because i saw the same thing on my Brockton Weatherscan headend.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on March 24, 2010, 05:20:32 PM
Moved from the Porch:
Hey, for anyone that has the IntellISTAR, is the local forecast weather animations showign up in the 36 Hour Forecast? For some reason the STAR where I am isn't showing it. I hope TWC didn't plan on taking them out...
Here too.  Did they get removed when the LDLs changed?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 24, 2010, 06:00:39 PM
Still working for me...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 24, 2010, 06:12:31 PM
Moved from the Porch:
Hey, for anyone that has the IntellISTAR, is the local forecast weather animations showign up in the 36 Hour Forecast? For some reason the STAR where I am isn't showing it. I hope TWC didn't plan on taking them out...
Here too.  Did they get removed when the LDLs changed?
That's a possible sign that your STAR was recently rebooted. Give it a couple hours and they should reappear.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 24, 2010, 06:26:41 PM
I've never actually seen an update as it came through... so this was interesting to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-YPUVT_ZE8
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 24, 2010, 07:42:59 PM
Moved from the Porch:
Hey, for anyone that has the IntellISTAR, is the local forecast weather animations showign up in the 36 Hour Forecast? For some reason the STAR where I am isn't showing it. I hope TWC didn't plan on taking them out...

Here too.  Did they get removed when the LDLs changed?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU0aakTf0RM

same here between 4:28-38pm EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 24, 2010, 09:59:02 PM
I've never actually seen an update as it came through... so this was interesting to see.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-YPUVT_ZE8[/url]

Odd yours was so late
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 25, 2010, 06:08:20 AM
I've never actually seen an update as it came through... so this was interesting to see.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-YPUVT_ZE8[/url]

Odd yours was so late

I thought all updates were sent to all Intellistars at the same time?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 25, 2010, 03:43:14 PM
I've never actually seen an update as it came through... so this was interesting to see.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-YPUVT_ZE8[/url]

Odd yours was so late

I thought all updates were sent to all Intellistars at the same time?

The new LDL update was sent out at 3:45 ET and was working fine at 4:00am ET for the start of First Outlook.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 26, 2010, 07:32:33 PM
While it's not significant, I just thought of another LF-related question... would an all time record high/low temperature actually show up on the record high/low screen, or would it just display a daily record high/low? I know how random all-record temps are.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 26, 2010, 09:55:15 PM
While it's not significant, I just thought of another LF-related question... would an all time record high/low temperature actually show up on the record high/low screen, or would it just display a daily record high/low? I know how random all-record temps are.
Pretty sure it's just daily records.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 26, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
Canton/Foxboro, MA XL Regional Map + Radar

(http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/704/raddd1.jpg)

(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9435/regional1.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 26, 2010, 11:09:59 PM
ooh nice, a metro map!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 26, 2010, 11:21:11 PM
Is that the only XLv3 with a metro map! :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 26, 2010, 11:46:59 PM
Hot looking metro! :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 27, 2010, 12:39:56 AM
Since the bigger urban areas have moved on to the IS over the XL, it wouldn't surprise me if that's one of only the few remaining XLs with a metro map. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2010, 12:46:19 AM
Is that the only XLv3 with a metro map! :o
There's another XL a little farther north in Gloucester that also has a metro map as of 2006.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 27, 2010, 08:49:19 AM
Canton/Foxboro, MA XL Regional Map + Radar

([url]http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/704/raddd1.jpg[/url])

([url]http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9435/regional1.jpg[/url])

Can you get video Alex?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2010, 09:42:18 AM
I'm pretty sure those came from silicondust, those aren't his.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 27, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
It's kinda odd to see the 7 day jump to the Traffic Flow map w/o the other two traffic maps coming before that like I just saw a couple of minutes ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2010, 10:44:05 AM
It's kinda odd to see the 7 day jump to the Traffic Flow map w/o the other two traffic maps coming before that like I just saw a couple of minutes ago.
I haven't been seeing my traffic map all morning here either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 27, 2010, 10:54:50 AM
Either the XL v2 that was found just SW of Cleveland was 'upgraded', or there is an Intellistar VERY close to it...
(http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/66/snapshot_18026366.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2010, 10:58:55 AM
Judging from the ad crawl that Intellistar is from an Armstrong headend. The XL for that area was a Grafton Cable unit, IIRC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 27, 2010, 11:00:46 AM
Judging from the ad crawl that Intellistar is from an Armstrong headend. The XL for that area was a Grafton Cable unit, IIRC.
Yeah, it is Armstong. I didn't realize the XL was on Grafton, but I don't see that provider listed on silicondust. BTW, why is it that (for the most part), we can only seem to view TWC snapshots of Comcast headends? I can't get anything for any Charter or Cox headends.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2010, 11:23:46 AM
Because Comcast is the company that's more active in switching to digital, and thus offers the most QAM channels (which is what you see on silicondust).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 27, 2010, 11:24:23 AM
Judging from the ad crawl that Intellistar is from an Armstrong headend. The XL for that area was a Grafton Cable unit, IIRC.
Yeah, it is Armstong. I didn't realize the XL was on Grafton, but I don't see that provider listed on silicondust. BTW, why is it that (for the most part), we can only seem to view TWC snapshots of Comcast headends? I can't get anything for any Charter or Cox headends.
TWC/BHN headends, and FiOS headends never list either. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2010, 11:25:50 AM
I see FiOS listed for areas around here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 27, 2010, 11:27:38 AM
Oh right, I think Philly was the only one I saw with a TWC listing. :doh:

And also, look up Charter in Corinth, TX and see what version of TWC they have listed. :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 27, 2010, 12:16:42 PM
Oh right, I think Philly was the only one I saw with a TWC listing. :doh:
Silicondust shows FiOS TWC listings in the Baltimore/Washington area.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 27, 2010, 12:29:39 PM
Because Comcast is the company that's more active in switching to digital, and thus offers the most QAM channels (which is what you see on silicondust).
Verizon Fios, Mediacom and WAVE Cable also have TWC listings on silicondust.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 27, 2010, 01:42:20 PM
Oh right, I think Philly was the only one I saw with a TWC listing. :doh:
Silicondust shows FiOS TWC listings in the Baltimore/Washington area.
Never even bothered checking, thanks. B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 27, 2010, 01:58:28 PM
Oh right, I think Philly was the only one I saw with a TWC listing. :doh:
Silicondust shows FiOS TWC listings in the Baltimore/Washington area.
The site shows the Pittsburgh FiOS listings as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 27, 2010, 02:12:13 PM
Not to mention the fact a few weeks ago I saw Comcast of Pittsburgh showing listings for TWC HD but last time I checked they were gone. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 27, 2010, 02:46:22 PM
It's kinda odd to see the 7 day jump to the Traffic Flow map w/o the other two traffic maps coming before that like I just saw a couple of minutes ago.
I haven't been seeing my traffic map all morning here either.


Maybe TWC took it down Temporarily to fix the Map problem.

But the thing is Traffic Flow wasn't working Thursday Morning... Here's the Video

IntelliStar Without Traffic Flow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrBDUAwCug#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 27, 2010, 02:50:39 PM
It's kinda odd to see the 7 day jump to the Traffic Flow map w/o the other two traffic maps coming before that like I just saw a couple of minutes ago.
I haven't been seeing my traffic map all morning here either.

Maybe TWC took it down Temporarily to fix the Map problem.

But the thing is Traffic Flow wasn't working Thursday Morning... i got a video of it uploading now
Bingo.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 27, 2010, 05:22:39 PM
It's kinda odd to see the 7 day jump to the Traffic Flow map w/o the other two traffic maps coming before that like I just saw a couple of minutes ago.
I haven't been seeing my traffic map all morning here either.

This brings me to another question, When did they bring back the regional maps at :08/:38?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 27, 2010, 05:37:04 PM
It's kinda odd to see the 7 day jump to the Traffic Flow map w/o the other two traffic maps coming before that like I just saw a couple of minutes ago.
I haven't been seeing my traffic map all morning here either.

This brings me to another question, When did they bring back the regional maps at :08/:38?
I would assume that's because the traffic maps have been disabled for the time being.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2010, 07:59:18 PM
Maybe TWC took it down Temporarily to fix the Map problem.
What map problem? There was nothing wrong with my map. Also, how long are they going to be disabled??
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 27, 2010, 09:26:49 PM
Maybe TWC took it down Temporarily to fix the Map problem.
What map problem? There was nothing wrong with my map. Also, how long are they going to be disabled??


Some maps across the nation had a color issue like mine which was showing erroneous information.

(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4440/trafficerror.jpg)

and hopefully it comes back in the near future.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 27, 2010, 10:09:49 PM
Yeah, I noticed that the map in a lot of the videos Tavores has uploaded recently had the edges of all the roads (in the view) labeled yellow. I didn't realize this was an actual error.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 27, 2010, 10:10:29 PM
No time line for a return... problem is on traffic.com's end.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 28, 2010, 05:06:42 PM
I heard Joyce Cooling's "South of Market" from the IntelliStar's backup playlist about 10 minutes ago. I'm assuming due to the severe weather and the tornado watch out to my east.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 29, 2010, 12:25:41 AM
No time line for a return... problem is on traffic.com's end.

I doubt it will be a quick fix either, might not even be on TWC's mind anyway with really one highly anticipated thing on everyone's mind the HD Star.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 29, 2010, 06:58:12 AM
Another station ID change... remember this one from last year? This time it's a still...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 29, 2010, 09:54:07 AM
I noticed since the Traffic map temporary removal these are the times music can be heard (not counting narration)

M/L Flavors

24hr = 1:40 out of 2:00

36hr = 1:30 out of 2:00

48hr = 1:20 out of 2:00

With Narration

24hr = :20 out of 2:00

36hr = :30 out of 2:00

48hr = :40 out of 2:00

Example of 24hr without map

New Bedford IntelliStar Without Traffic 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gu0ikuABbE#ws)

Example of 48hr without map

New Bedford IntelliStar Without Traffic 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0xOt0VUn0U#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 30, 2010, 06:20:19 PM
The original blue Local On The 8s ad bug has made a return on the DirecTV IS today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on March 31, 2010, 09:48:28 AM
I'm liking the Traffic Map being gone for now because i get to see my Radar/Satellite Map more often.

Also has anyone seen this bulletin before?

New Bedford Intellistar: Emergency Management Alert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p8irV0U5vo&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Jake on March 31, 2010, 12:40:36 PM
I'm liking the Traffic Map being gone for now because i get to see my Radar/Satellite Map more often.

Also has anyone seen this bulletin before?

New Bedford Intellistar: Emergency Management Alert ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p8irV0U5vo&fmt=18#[/url])


Yes, that LDL was shown in my area after Hurricane Isabel. Though I believe at the time, it beeped.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 31, 2010, 04:12:18 PM
I was longing to see this with the new almanac title! :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lightning86 on March 31, 2010, 06:35:26 PM
I was longing to see this with the new almanac title! :dance:
Oh nice one!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 31, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
I was longing to see this with the new almanac title! :dance:
Oh nice one!
Hehe thanks :)

BTW, for those of you who were wondering what the "new" haze icon looked like...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 31, 2010, 07:57:07 PM
BTW, for those of you who were wondering what the "new" haze icon looked like...
Just like the old one... lol. :yawn:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on March 31, 2010, 08:12:52 PM
1 min LF @ 8:09pm EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 31, 2010, 09:11:14 PM
O_o one minute at 9:08 PM too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 31, 2010, 09:18:34 PM
O_o one minute at 9:08 PM too.
Its so they have time to do their climate special
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on March 31, 2010, 10:47:48 PM
BTW, for those of you who were wondering what the "new" haze icon looked like...
Just like the old one... lol. :yawn:

That's disappointing. <_< It doesn't even "fit" with the others. :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 31, 2010, 11:08:06 PM
It almost looks as if they forgot to update the haze icon. With the way the FOG icon looks like, I would expect haze to look something like that. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 01, 2010, 03:10:17 PM
Hazy CC + Narration

Hazy Skies Current Conditions 4/1/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpT2f9GRICk&fmt=18#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 01, 2010, 03:19:24 PM
Hazy CC + Narration

Hazy Skies Current Conditions 4/1/10 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpT2f9GRICk&fmt=18#[/url])

Whoa, I've never seen that before!

Anyone ever know the phrase, let alone the narration of, "Cooler near the lakeshore" existed on the Intellistar text based?

TWC Local Forecast Monroe, MI- 4/1/10 6:58 AM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS3D2yF6Fp4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 01, 2010, 04:21:00 PM
I heard hazy skies on the intellistar once back in 2004. That lakeshore narration is neat too, I wonder if something similar exists for ocean coastal areas too?

Wow, it feels so great not having a traffic map. I get to see my regional maps again! :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 01, 2010, 04:26:33 PM
I heard hazy skies on the intellistar once back in 2004. That lakeshore narration is neat too, I wonder if something similar exists for ocean coastal areas too?

Wow, it feels so great not having a traffic map. I get to see my regional maps again! :D
Hehe, enjoy :P

A couple of LF related things I don't get here.
If the Intellistar can read the word "lakeshore" when it is used in the phrase "cooler near the lakeshore", then why can't it read lakeshore when it is part of the phrase "Lakeshore Flood Warning"?

Also, now that I'm seeing (and recording) the record high screen on 22842... I notice it uses simply "Lansing" as the site name in the wording... yet the almanac title is "Lansing Capital Reg. Int'l Arpt". I thought the Intellistar pulls the site name from the almanac title?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 01, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
If the Intellistar can read the word "lakeshore" when it is used in the phrase "cooler near the lakeshore", then why can't it read lakeshore when it is part of the phrase "Lakeshore Flood Warning"?
There's probably no audio file in the system for lakeshore flood warnings.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 01, 2010, 04:36:05 PM
If the Intellistar can read the word "lakeshore" when it is used in the phrase "cooler near the lakeshore", then why can't it read lakeshore when it is part of the phrase "Lakeshore Flood Warning"?
There's probably no audio file in the system for lakeshore flood warnings.
The Intellistar combines phrases... hence why you sometimes hear very brief pauses between some words that you and I could normally say connected. For instance, "very warm". I know the Intellistar has the narration for flood warning (as I've heard it for the Flash Flood Warning tone, and "Flood Warning" is how it reads "Lakeshore Flood Warning").
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 01, 2010, 04:42:34 PM
Now no Traffic Flow Graphic!

Intellistar New Bedford with National Config! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLdZ78nkO0Y#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 01, 2010, 05:03:50 PM
Now no Traffic Flow Graphic!

Just like it used to be pre BWTL era. :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on April 01, 2010, 05:39:10 PM
While I know some of you like seeing traffic on the LF, I personally don't think it belongs there.  Now that the traffic coverage is temporarily gone, you're seeing how much time is freed up for more weather products that I believe should be shown more often.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 01, 2010, 05:48:33 PM
While I know some of you like seeing traffic on the LF, I personally don't think it belongs there.  Now that the traffic coverage is temporarily gone, you're seeing how much time is freed up for more weather products that I believe should be shown more often.

I never liked having traffic products on my IntelliStar  :no: I'm glad it's gone for now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 01, 2010, 06:02:21 PM
While I know some of you like seeing traffic on the LF, I personally don't think it belongs there.  Now that the traffic coverage is temporarily gone, you're seeing how much time is freed up for more weather products that I believe should be shown more often.

I never liked having traffic products on my IntelliStar  :no: I'm glad it's gone for now.

Agreed, The only reason i hated my I-Star Was because of useless Traffic Info
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 01, 2010, 06:26:20 PM
While I know some of you like seeing traffic on the LF, I personally don't think it belongs there.  Now that the traffic coverage is temporarily gone, you're seeing how much time is freed up for more weather products that I believe should be shown more often.

I never liked having traffic products on my IntelliStar  :no: I'm glad it's gone for now.

Agreed, The only reason i hated my I-Star Was because of useless Traffic Info
I also agree as it kills the music on the teterboro IS
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 01, 2010, 06:36:30 PM
I was able to get "Malibu" by Eddie Reasoner w/o traffic data today and the song fits well with the summer weather we saw today. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 01, 2010, 07:01:46 PM
The cities on my DirecTV LF have changed. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 01, 2010, 08:02:29 PM
Something's not right, why am I getting the national LDL? :blink:

EDIT: NM, it's been fixed, I guess it was a goof.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 01, 2010, 08:11:15 PM
Uh - Oh Traffic Flow unavailable Screen
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 01, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
Uh - Oh Traffic Flow unavailable Screen

Hmm, I didn't get that on my STAR. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 01, 2010, 08:17:22 PM
Uh - Oh Traffic Flow unavailable Screen

Hmm, I didn't get that on my STAR. :unsure:

all 3 sites on the flow map read "Temporarily Unavailable"

Comcast Commercial Runs into LF @ 18
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 01, 2010, 08:31:06 PM
Comcast Commercial Runs into LF @ 18
Yeah, I saw that too. Stupid Comcast :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 01, 2010, 09:14:52 PM
The Intellistar combines phrases... hence why you sometimes hear very brief pauses between some words that you and I could normally say connected. For instance, "very warm". I know the Intellistar has the narration for flood warning (as I've heard it for the Flash Flood Warning tone, and "Flood Warning" is how it reads "Lakeshore Flood Warning").
If I understand your post, "very warm" is one phrase, not two seperate ones. Also, just because there is narration for "cooler near the lakeshore" doesn't mean there is narration for lakeshore flood warnings. There isn't just an audio file in the system that just says "lakeshore."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on April 01, 2010, 09:18:32 PM
A couple of LF related things I don't get here.
If the Intellistar can read the word "lakeshore" when it is used in the phrase "cooler near the lakeshore", then why can't it read lakeshore when it is part of the phrase "Lakeshore Flood Warning"?

There is no Lakeshore Flood Warning. The Intellistar uses thousands of phrases. While its true they are broken up, they are not broken up by word. ie. cooler near the lakeshore is a singe file. It can't just choose a single word from it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 01, 2010, 10:13:15 PM
That's what I meant to say, just didn't word it right.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on April 01, 2010, 10:53:51 PM
That's what I meant to say, just didn't word it right.
Yea you beat me to it. By the time I hit submit you already had yours up haha. But yea same idea
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 01, 2010, 11:04:12 PM
I know this is very unlikely to happen ever, but if there's both a record low and a record high reached on the same day, would the IntelliStar show both record screens?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on April 01, 2010, 11:34:37 PM
I know this is very unlikely to happen ever, but if there's both a record low and a record high reached on the same day, would the IntelliStar show both record screens?
I strongly doubt it. The record screen has a low priority as it is. I don't think its configured to show two
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 02, 2010, 04:37:28 PM
New K Flavor!  :dance:

Awesome New IntelliStar Flavor: 4/2/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iVkc66BCeo#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 02, 2010, 04:38:55 PM
Where did your air quality forecast go? I still see it here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 02, 2010, 04:43:00 PM
Where did your air quality forecast go? I still see it here.

Must be an outage or removed because its gone @ :28 & :38 too

Edit: Came Back @ :48 lets see if it comes back @ :18
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 02, 2010, 06:55:32 PM
Wow, that's the exact same 90 second flavor I saw in Port Huron. It's definitely different not seeing ANY traffic products on your local forecasts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on April 02, 2010, 10:40:41 PM
New K Flavor!  :dance:

Awesome New IntelliStar Flavor: 4/2/10 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iVkc66BCeo#[/url])

Too redundant on the regional conditions imo
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 03, 2010, 06:54:28 PM
Just heard 2 pieces of narration i never heard before

"Areas of fog developing with patchy drizzle possible"

"Areas of morning fog with some patchy drizzle. Cloudy skies early, followed by partial clearing"

i can provide a video if anybody wants to hear it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 11, 2010, 11:21:17 AM
I would love a forecast like this :bleh: (snapshot from yesterday...)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ruhgster on April 11, 2010, 12:40:49 PM
I know this is very unlikely to happen ever, but if there's both a record low and a record high reached on the same day, would the IntelliStar show both record screens?

Just an FYI, it has happened.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 11, 2010, 01:27:27 PM
I know this is very unlikely to happen ever, but if there's both a record low and a record high reached on the same day, would the IntelliStar show both record screens?

Just an FYI, it has happened.
You've seen it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 11, 2010, 03:45:39 PM
Sorry for interrupting here, but Matthew just uploaded some clips of the Intellistar in Jackson... just 35 miles to my south. Odd how the ID is 22843... only one higher than my Intellistar in the E.L.

Jackson, MI IntelliStar 22843- 4/10/10 6:58 PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD7u_-i7XLk#ws)

Jackson, MI IntelliStar- 4/11/10 9:08 AM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLHZy_uoSkQ#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 12, 2010, 11:03:52 AM
Boston, MA Regional (Metro Area) Forecast

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4488/1reggboston.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ruhgster on April 12, 2010, 12:45:30 PM
I know this is very unlikely to happen ever, but if there's both a record low and a record high reached on the same day, would the IntelliStar show both record screens?


Just an FYI, it has happened.
You've seen it?


Hey Mike,

No I have not seen it if you're referring to how the intellistart handles it.  All I'm saying is there have been occurances where the record low and high for a place were set on the same day.

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/journal/recordday.htm (http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/journal/recordday.htm)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 12, 2010, 01:48:10 PM
Here's most of the songs from the 04-07 list Enjoy!  :happy: 00-03 coming up!

2007

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=37F50A4D3AFE4B4D (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=37F50A4D3AFE4B4D)

2006

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EC481133DA092054 (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EC481133DA092054)

2005

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E592848395F930A2 (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E592848395F930A2)

2004

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=25120618C65E6FCE (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=25120618C65E6FCE)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on April 12, 2010, 10:46:09 PM
I know this is very unlikely to happen ever, but if there's both a record low and a record high reached on the same day, would the IntelliStar show both record screens?


Just an FYI, it has happened.
You've seen it?


Hey Mike,

No I have not seen it if you're referring to how the intellistart handles it.  All I'm saying is there have been occurances where the record low and high for a place were set on the same day.

[url]http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/journal/recordday.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/journal/recordday.htm[/url])

Thats amazing!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 13, 2010, 09:41:33 AM
Hopefully a new playlist Starts next week
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 13, 2010, 10:52:01 AM
Hopefully a new playlist Starts next week
Or hopefully this week seeing how it was this week last year when the playlist changed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 13, 2010, 12:24:51 PM
Hopefully a new playlist Starts next week
Or hopefully this week seeing how it was this week last year when the playlist changed.
I honestly don't expect a new list until the first week of May, as was the case for this list.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 13, 2010, 02:03:21 PM
What is going on with TWC today? :blink: :wacko: :blink: :wacko: (no pun intended :P)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: 4000 weatherman on April 13, 2010, 02:08:41 PM
What is going on with TWC today? :blink: :wacko: :blink: :wacko: (no pun intended :P)

Ive seen it do that even on the maps!

Thats how I got my templates for my sat. emulator.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 13, 2010, 02:13:55 PM
What is going on with TWC today? :blink: :wacko: :blink: :wacko: (no pun intended :P)
Thats how I got my templates for my sat. emulator.
Sat emulator? Where? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on April 13, 2010, 02:51:08 PM
I am uploading a video of this "outage" to YouTube.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on April 13, 2010, 03:53:24 PM
Just rewinded to 12:28PM CDT on my DVR, and saw that the SF on at that time was missing most of the forecasts, only the city labels were showing..........

Serious Satellite Forecast Glitch - April 13, 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxJRmN-UYVQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 13, 2010, 04:10:22 PM
As of 4:08 PM ET the issues are fixed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on April 13, 2010, 06:30:14 PM
Yep  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 13, 2010, 10:20:07 PM
So a few LF oddities I've noticed of late:
-The 10:08 PM ET LF seems to cue the Intellistar late quite often
-The overcast icon on the current set seems to have a blueish glow around it.
-"Listening Room" by Jeanne Ricks plays at 11:28 AM ET 9 times out of 10
-On the previous list, "Magnificent Eleven" by Sam Spence paraded in the primetime list at 5:08 most evenings

Anyone else notice these things?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 13, 2010, 10:57:14 PM
So a few LF oddities I've noticed of late:
-The 10:08 PM ET LF seems to cue the Intellistar late quite often
-The overcast icon on the current set seems to have a blueish glow around it.
-"Listening Room" by Jeanne Ricks plays at 11:28 AM ET 9 times out of 10
-On the previous list, "Magnificent Eleven" by Sam Spence paraded in the primetime list at 5:08 most evenings

Anyone else notice these things?
It's like that on all of the web versions of that set. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 14, 2010, 03:48:44 PM
So a few LF oddities I've noticed of late:
-The 10:08 PM ET LF seems to cue the Intellistar late quite often
-The overcast icon on the current set seems to have a blueish glow around it.
-"Listening Room" by Jeanne Ricks plays at 11:28 AM ET 9 times out of 10
-On the previous list, "Magnificent Eleven" by Sam Spence paraded in the primetime list at 5:08 most evenings

Anyone else notice these things?
As for Listening Room, yes. It plays too much sometimes back to back every LF for an hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 14, 2010, 03:50:48 PM
It's a shame they pulled the almanac from the :58 longform flavor. I liked seeing that, and it looks like it was only replaced by two metro map forecasts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 16, 2010, 09:12:53 PM
Well I see the Getaway Forecast sites were changed to the summer set today. It's weird how Gaylord, on my winter set, displayed "Temporarily Unavailable" right before the switch, which it also did last April.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 17, 2010, 10:02:11 AM
So yesterday marked one of the best playlists in modern times, the April/May 2009 playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 17, 2010, 11:23:40 AM
Clean 4000 LF from Warroad, MN

TWC Local Forecast: Warroad, Minnesota 9/27/09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEi8bFmXdW4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 17, 2010, 11:26:12 AM
Clean 4000 LF from Warroad, MN

TWC Local Forecast: Warroad, Minnesota 9/27/09 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEi8bFmXdW4#[/url])

That song takes me back to when I first got into this community, I miss it. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 17, 2010, 11:27:56 AM
Takes me back to March 2007 (when it first played) :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on April 17, 2010, 12:49:54 PM
I really liked that song....before I was ever into recording TWC I would tune to it and hear that song....I miss that song :cry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 17, 2010, 04:39:17 PM
I really liked that song....before I was ever into recording TWC I would tune to it and hear that song....I miss that song :cry:
That's Going Home by Mark Krurnowski
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 17, 2010, 06:50:22 PM
Local ads on DirecTV overlapped the 5:48 PM ET LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 17, 2010, 07:06:11 PM
Local ads on DirecTV overlapped the 5:48 PM ET LF.
Happened on my end too
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on April 17, 2010, 09:27:31 PM
Local ads on DirecTV overlapped the 5:48 PM ET LF.
What the heck is that ad for? :P haha
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on April 18, 2010, 12:08:32 PM
o_O A local ad?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 18, 2010, 12:11:33 PM
o_O A local ad?
Local ad? I didn't see one. :huh:

And FYI Trevor, DirecTV cannot insert ads for just your area without the entire country seeing them, thus TWC doesn't show local ads at that time, but rather at :16/:46.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 18, 2010, 02:00:53 PM
For some reason, all morning and now into the afternoon, my Intellistar has been freezing for a second when it transitions from the daypart forecast to the metro forecast. Anyone else seeing this?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 18, 2010, 02:28:42 PM
Has anyone ever identified that piano song that played back in Nov '06 daytime? I had a clip of it but lost it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 18, 2010, 04:05:38 PM
Has anyone ever identified that piano song that played back in Nov '06 daytime? I had a clip of it but lost it.
What do you mean by piano? You mean Birds of Paradise by Jacob Archer?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on April 18, 2010, 07:46:15 PM
Local ads on DirecTV overlapped the 5:48 PM ET LF.

Then what did you mean by local ads?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 18, 2010, 07:55:17 PM
Local ads on DirecTV overlapped the 5:48 PM ET LF.

Then what did you mean by local ads?
I need to ask you that same question...

What I meant by local ads is the ones DirecTV inserts over normal TWC programming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on April 22, 2010, 11:10:48 PM
something went horribly wrong at the start of the 10:08 (Central) local forecast  :blink:. it started out with the National Satellite LF, and the Big LDL cued in, and was later taken out...weird.

oh and I'm now under a tornado watch  :o B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 24, 2010, 08:47:28 AM
Is it true that the traffic map is gone for good now?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 24, 2010, 09:07:16 AM
Is it true that the traffic map is gone for good now?
No, I believe it's temporary. Nevertheless, I wouldn't expect it to return that soon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 24, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
Is it true that the traffic map is gone for good now?
Quite possibly, yes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 24, 2010, 09:11:03 PM
I remember how some of you said that the strip of the blue LDL disappeared when something like a Tornado Watch was issued since the new LDL debuted. Well I'm under my first Tornado Watch since that new LDL debuted and so far nothing seems to be wrong with the blue LDL on my end.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 24, 2010, 09:15:59 PM
I remember how some of you said that the strip of the blue LDL disappeared when something like a Tornado Watch was issued since the new LDL debuted. Well I'm under my first Tornado Watch since that new LDL debuted and so far nothing seems to be wrong with the blue LDL on my end.
Notice that the "Now" tab is missing and it seems the STAR Team fixed the issue.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on April 24, 2010, 09:41:33 PM
I remember how some of you said that the strip of the blue LDL disappeared when something like a Tornado Watch was issued since the new LDL debuted. Well I'm under my first Tornado Watch since that new LDL debuted and so far nothing seems to be wrong with the blue LDL on my end.
OT: I think i'm under that same tornado watch :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 24, 2010, 11:53:03 PM
I remember how some of you said that the strip of the blue LDL disappeared when something like a Tornado Watch was issued since the new LDL debuted. Well I'm under my first Tornado Watch since that new LDL debuted and so far nothing seems to be wrong with the blue LDL on my end.
Notice that the "Now" tab is missing and it seems the STAR Team fixed the issue.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Now tab, but that's been fixed as well.

EDIT: When Summer Comes by George Howard just played on my IntelliStar!  :dance: Samantha Mohr came on with a dual severe wx update.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 25, 2010, 09:42:10 AM
EDIT: When Summer Comes by George Howard just played on my IntelliStar!  :dance: Samantha Mohr came on with a dual severe wx update.
Would be nice if I could see that some time. I complain they don't pay much attention to Michigan for a reason :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 26, 2010, 09:30:10 PM
Anyone ever seen this before?
E. Lansing Intellistar- 4/26/10 4:28 PM EDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdUBsAwKg4Q#)

Spot the fail! :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 26, 2010, 10:43:21 PM
I've seen it happen here, but rarely.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 27, 2010, 06:40:11 AM
Curt tells me he's seen it a bit on that Intellistar, and the last time I remember seeing it over there was last March. Odd how I happened to record the song I was looking for on that Intellistar, along with the video and audio glitches :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: brbjambajuice on April 27, 2010, 07:48:39 PM
Bit Rot is munching on the intellistar >:O that's my guess.

Also, why did you block me on YT?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: hen7713 on April 27, 2010, 07:51:20 PM
There's a very very very low chance of that happening. The IntelliSTAR uses a hard drive, unlike the 4000.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 27, 2010, 08:11:41 PM
Also, why did you block me on YT?
This isn't the place to discuss that. Take it to PM or IM, please.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 28, 2010, 06:47:20 PM
Anyone happen to notice anything wrong here?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 28, 2010, 06:53:57 PM
Anyone happen to notice anything wrong here?

looks like the text was jumbled and ended up being removed from the template.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 28, 2010, 08:01:05 PM
Post that in tech support. There was a previous bug where certain letters in the warning crawls were being omitted. This likely is a similar issue.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 28, 2010, 08:19:18 PM
Post that in tech support. There was a previous bug where certain letters in the warning crawls were being omitted. This likely is a similar issue.
I was thinking about doing that, but there were a couple reasons I decided to make a simple reply here. For one thing, it only happened once. I checked through my recordings, and couldn't find it on any other local forecast. Also, I sent the STAR team a request a few weeks ago that was ignored, so I really don't want to bother them with something that isn't happening anymore.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 28, 2010, 08:21:39 PM
It should still be posted there just so they know its happening again. The similar issue I mentioned (warning crawl) was also very sporadic, but they were able to fix the problem.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 29, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Santa Ana, CA

(http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/91/snapshot_19162591.jpg)

Ridgecrest, CA

(http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/85/snapshot_18841885.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Pop Light Brown on April 30, 2010, 03:08:37 PM
Not long ago, I saw a severe thunderstorm warning and a flood advisory scroll on top of the new LDL that covered the lower third of the screen...and I thought a new warning system would accompany the new LDLs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on April 30, 2010, 05:02:27 PM
Not long ago, I saw a severe thunderstorm warning and a flood advisory scroll on top of the new LDL that covered the lower third of the screen...and I thought a new warning system would accompany the new LDLs.
That's how the warning crawl works right now with the expanded LDL.  Whether something will change in the future, I have no idea, though, to be honest, I don't know what kind of change is possible, short of creating a THIRD size of LDL to fit within the larger window, but shrunk a little to fit the warning crawl.  Sounds like a good idea, in my opinion, but the amount of programming work sounds too absurd for such a thing to happen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 30, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
I'm a little sick of this horribly configured regional map...

Also, any particular reason they are airing overnight music on the local forecasts? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 30, 2010, 08:29:42 PM
Also, any particular reason they are airing overnight music on the local forecasts? :blink:
Probably a glitch in the system since it's usually not configured to air regular playlist music on Friday evenings.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 30, 2010, 08:35:14 PM
Also, any particular reason they are airing overnight music on the local forecasts? :blink:
Probably a glitch in the system since it's usually not configured to air regular playlist music on Friday evenings.
On a positive note, if I catch the overnight songs I wanted, I might be able to get some sleep tonight :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 30, 2010, 08:43:46 PM
Most Likely to counteract  the time missing because of the severe coverage and no movie.

Makes alot of sense to put Overnight on right now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 30, 2010, 09:15:44 PM
I'm a little sick of this horribly configured regional map...

Also, any particular reason they are airing overnight music on the local forecasts? :blink:
That map disgusts me, IMO. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 30, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
I'm a little sick of this horribly configured regional map...

Also, any particular reason they are airing overnight music on the local forecasts? :blink:

They must don't like putting Canadian cities on there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 30, 2010, 09:44:46 PM
Canadian and Mexican cities don't show up on current maps, only forecast maps.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 30, 2010, 09:54:37 PM
Canadian and Mexican cities don't show up on current maps, only forecast maps.
Lansing shows London, ON on the current map...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 30, 2010, 10:04:06 PM
Canadian and Mexican cities don't show up on current maps, only forecast maps.
Lansing shows London, ON on the current map...
As Does BUffalo NY (IIRC from a YT video)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 30, 2010, 10:10:28 PM
As Does Buffalo NY (IIRC from a YT video)
That's actually Toronto. Many upstate NY Intellistars have Toronto on their regional maps.

They must not like putting Canadian cities on there.
I doubt it's intentional... judging from how quickly Intellistars were configured years ago.

But also, look at this metro map. Mount Pleasant is placed where Clare actually is, Shepherd is placed where Mount Pleasant is actually located, and Shepherd is placed where Alma is actually located. It's beyond me why Shepherd... a town of about 1400... should be on any Intellistar map.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on April 30, 2010, 10:20:54 PM
Canadian and Mexican cities don't show up on current maps, only forecast maps.
Lansing shows London, ON on the current map...

As Does BUffalo NY (IIRC from a YT video)

I think some major foreign cities, such as London, do appear, but most don't. See Anahauc, Mexico in this video: Laredo, TX IntelliStar from 05/27/08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uFy9CjHoGs#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 02, 2010, 05:50:11 PM
Um... :blink:

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4605/intellistar22840regiona.jpg)

Intellistar 22840 Regional Map Glitch- 4/16/10 8:38 AM EDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8uX5u96VTI#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on May 02, 2010, 06:20:33 PM
Wow...   :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 02, 2010, 10:20:20 PM
I think this is the first time I've heard narration skipping on my IS. (1:34)

IntelliStar - May 2, 2010 1:08pm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxh6k6AbAPg#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 03, 2010, 05:16:07 PM
Anyone remember this song?
TWC HD LF 5/3/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY7j1BIj13o#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 03, 2010, 09:20:17 PM
Friend is at his dad's house, and he gets Lawrenceburg cable
Lawrenceburg Intellistar Information

CC City: Lawrenceburg
STAR ID: 026194
Forecast Locale: Central Kentucky

LDL Cities:
Lawrenceburg
Junction City
Versailles

Going to have Metro and 8 CC cities soon
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: medziatkowicz on May 04, 2010, 10:01:38 PM
I know this has been asked before but how does one get a location changed on the intellistar and a feature such as traffic for a nearby major city added?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on May 04, 2010, 11:09:05 PM
I know this has been asked before but how does one get a location changed on the intellistar and a feature such as traffic for a nearby major city added?

You can make a request in the "WeatherStar Tech Support" folder at https://twctodayforums.com/forums/weatherstar-tech-support/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/weatherstar-tech-support/) ... however, remember that the tech staff has to balance the needs of the entire viewing area with your request.  However, it's anything but a lost cause, because such requests have been followed through before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: medziatkowicz on May 06, 2010, 11:54:15 AM
do i contact comcast or the weather channel to get traffic for a nearby metro area included in my local on the 8s?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 06, 2010, 01:41:05 PM
As was already stated, you can make the request here on TWCToday in the tech support area, which is located here: https://twctodayforums.com/forums/weatherstar-tech-support (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/weatherstar-tech-support)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 06, 2010, 03:33:48 PM
So the radar has been out since 1:30 PM EDT today, and it has messed with some of the flavors. I noticed at 1:38, that the regional CC made an appearance (which does not happen on that flavor for Intellistars with the AQ forecast)... and also that the sat/rad must be completely out. An extra school day forecast screen has made an appearance on the :29 longform and on the 1:48 LF. Also, for anyone who has not seen how something like this would affect the bigger LDL (I haven't)...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: 4000 weatherman on May 06, 2010, 04:28:40 PM
They just fixed he radar on my end. But the loop doesn't work it's just the same frame.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 06, 2010, 04:30:55 PM
They just fixed he radar on my end. But the loop doesn't work it's just the same frame.
Yeah, it was fixed, at the same time I received some unrequested updates.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 06, 2010, 10:50:39 PM
They just fixed he radar on my end. But the loop doesn't work it's just the same frame.
Yeah, it was fixed, at the same time I received some unrequested updates.
Guess thats what you get for continuing to request changes. Should have left things alone
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 07, 2010, 08:20:54 AM
They just fixed he radar on my end. But the loop doesn't work it's just the same frame.
Yeah, it was fixed, at the same time I received some unrequested updates.
Guess thats what you get for continuing to request changes. Should have left things alone
Martin, I didn't realize it would screw up the rest of the config. I now know I shouldn't have made that request, but it's too hard dealing with this for months now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 07, 2010, 01:12:37 PM
Continued requests make different STAR Team members look at the STAR, and the area served, which inevitability means changes.

but it's too hard dealing with this for months now.
Sounds like you're depressed or something  :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 07, 2010, 02:52:17 PM
Continued requests make different STAR Team members look at the STAR, and the area served, which inevitability means changes.
Right, and I can understand that, but it becomes a problem when the area's main airport has next to no love or mention on our Intellistar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 07, 2010, 03:05:50 PM
The average viewer doesn't really care about the observation at the airport. They'd rather see info for somewhere closer to them.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 07, 2010, 04:26:19 PM
The average viewer doesn't really care about the observation at the airport. They'd rather see info for somewhere closer to them.
So then, is it really necessary to have "Lansing" and Dtwn Lansing" both within the 8 city? Not to mention this Intellistar does serve areas near and north of the airport ;)

And what exactly compelled them to simplify the almanac name again, when I had already had it lengthened?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 07, 2010, 04:46:54 PM
The average viewer doesn't really care about the observation at the airport. They'd rather see info for somewhere closer to them.
And what exactly compelled them to simplify the almanac name again, when I had already had it lengthened?
I stated weeks ago they are moving toward using just city names, no airport names, no "downtown," no "area" or "metro" etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 07, 2010, 06:19:53 PM
Continued requests make different STAR Team members look at the STAR, and the area served, which inevitability means changes.
I thought Tony Fulkerson was the only person who monitored the boards? Or is he just a public relations guy who forwards the requests to the actual tech people?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on May 07, 2010, 07:42:35 PM
Whats disturbing to me is that you care so much about the names on a weather forecast on TV. Get over it. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Ill tell you how many people care about these changes". 1 person and thats you. Nobody wants to hear your incessant whining about how your star isn't perfect. Take it somewhere else

This response from you actually surprises me.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 07, 2010, 08:12:15 PM
Whats disturbing to me is that you care so much about the names on a weather forecast on TV. Get over it. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Ill tell you how many people care about these changes". 1 person and thats you. Nobody wants to hear your incessant whining about how your star isn't perfect. Take it somewhere else

This response from you actually surprises me.  :hmm:
I do apologize if I offended you. Most everyone here is able to exercise self control when asking for changes and modified content. This unfortunately is not one of those cases and its results could hinder the approval of changes made by others. Its perfectly ok to request a change here or there to the TWC STAR team but when you do it all the time its not fair to them or other members.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 07, 2010, 08:41:19 PM
Guys, I shouldn't have made the requests that I did. But now some issues are going on behind the scenes that are too difficult to handle. I would appreciate it though if my issues with requests, the administration, and the STAR team, stay just between me and them. Please no one else get involved, since it really isn't anyone else's issue.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on May 07, 2010, 08:44:22 PM
I do apologize if I offended you. Most everyone here is able to exercise self control when asking for changes and modified content. This unfortunately is not one of those cases and its results could hinder the approval of changes made by others. Its perfectly ok to request a change here or there to the TWC STAR team but when you do it all the time its not fair to them or other members.

What you said here is, in my opinion, a polite, respectful, and yet firm way of dealing with the situation.  I think you just let your temper get the best of you earlier.  I agree that discretion is very important, especially considering the tech folks at The Weather Channel are nice enough to come here and read the message board.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on May 07, 2010, 08:46:17 PM
Guys, I shouldn't have made the requests that I did. But now some issues are going on behind the scenes that are too difficult to handle. I would appreciate it though if my issues with requests, the administration, and the STAR team, stay just between me and them. Please no one else get involved, since it really isn't anyone else's issue.

I think what must be remembered here is that, as much as some may want it to be, the Stars aren't our own personal "toys," and, even though we watch them umpteen times a day, it doesn't mean we get to tweak them to show exactly what we want them to show.  There are a whole lot of other people who watch them, too, and the needs of only an occasional TWC viewer are no less important than the needs of a constant viewer.  The Star techs have to keep everyone in mind, and, while pleasing everyone just isn't possible, I think they do a pretty good job of keeping as many people happy as possible.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 07, 2010, 08:53:31 PM
Guys, I shouldn't have made the requests that I did. But now some issues are going on behind the scenes that are too difficult to handle. I would appreciate it though if my issues with requests, the administration, and the STAR team, stay just between me and them. Please no one else get involved, since it really isn't anyone else's issue.

I think what must be remembered here is that, as much as some may want it to be, the Stars aren't our own personal "toys," and, even though we watch them umpteen times a day, it doesn't mean we get to tweak them to show exactly what we want them to show.  There are a whole lot of other people who watch them, too, and the needs of only an occasional TWC viewer are no less important than the needs of a constant viewer.  The Star techs have to keep everyone in mind, and, while pleasing everyone just isn't possible, I think they do a pretty good job of keeping as many people happy as possible.
That's pretty impressive, and all the more correct. That had finally begun to occur to me, which was why I stopped making actual requests. I simply asked for some glitches to be fixed, and more was screwed up. But let's just drop this. It's done, and what I've caused is my own issue.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 07, 2010, 09:22:25 PM
I think what must be remembered here is that, as much as some may want it to be, the Stars aren't our own personal "toys," and, even though we watch them umpteen times a day, it doesn't mean we get to tweak them to show exactly what we want them to show.  There are a whole lot of other people who watch them, too, and the needs of only an occasional TWC viewer are no less important than the needs of a constant viewer.  The Star techs have to keep everyone in mind, and, while pleasing everyone just isn't possible, I think they do a pretty good job of keeping as many people happy as possible.
I couldn't have said it better myself. :clap:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 07, 2010, 10:39:14 PM
Continued requests make different STAR Team members look at the STAR, and the area served, which inevitability means changes.
I thought Tony Fulkerson was the only person who monitored the boards?
No, other STAR members monitor the boards as well.


Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 07, 2010, 11:51:45 PM
Not to take off from this little topic going on there, but is anyone else getting a dual-feed update?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 08, 2010, 02:56:33 PM
Wow, I'm finally getting local radio stations on my station ID again, about time!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 08, 2010, 09:48:13 PM
Has anyone ever seen a 1 min LF end w/ the metro map on the IS before? I ran across this video today and it seems really odd.  :noexpression:

IntelliStar - January 24, 2010 428pm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTe6ohIEYIM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 08, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Has anyone ever seen a 1 min LF end w/ the metro map on the IS before? I ran across this video today and it seems really odd.  :noexpression:
It makes sense, actually. A 1 page bulletin and the appearance of the local radar is enough for the :59 one minute flavor to not show the week ahead (and thus end with the text based). So, I'm not surprised a 2 page bulletin (which I still have yet to see) and the local radar made that LF end with a metro forecast. Haven't seen that here though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 10, 2010, 04:45:13 PM
So my Intellistar froze and aborted mid-LF again this morning. Odd how it's doing that all of a sudden, even though it is sporadic. I'm also noticing constant static pops with the audio.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 10, 2010, 09:27:48 PM
The "buzzing" as we call it. That's something that has existed for all istars since day one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 11, 2010, 06:30:57 AM
I seemed to think that was only my Intellistar, but I guess I didn't realize what it was. Speaking of audio errors, my Intellistar just had another skipping episode, and this time, it couldn't even narrate the week ahead.

EDIT: more popping today. Must be a midday through early afternoon thing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 11, 2010, 11:42:41 PM
Has anyone heard "Traffic Flow for our area" before?

Cincinnati Intellistar March 5, 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQCfdxFhBFE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on May 12, 2010, 12:54:25 AM
Has anyone heard "Traffic Flow for our area" before?

Yes, I have.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 12, 2010, 02:29:25 AM
Might only be used if only that traffic product is available.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 12, 2010, 02:37:05 AM
Flow and incident narration was disabled shortly after the overview maps were introduced. They were put back in place in markets where the overview maps were removed.  Now that the overview maps are gone, I wouldn't be surprised to see the narration for incidents and flow come back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 12, 2010, 04:34:26 PM
At about 4 AM this morning, due to my DirecTV receiver updating, the LF app cued 30 seconds late.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on May 12, 2010, 05:49:41 PM
Flow and incident narration was disabled shortly after the overview maps were introduced. They were put back in place in markets where the overview maps were removed.  Now that the overview maps are gone, I wouldn't be surprised to see the narration for incidents and flow come back.

wait, are the overflow maps gone for good? i thought it was only temporary. :unsure:

i liked the overflow map feature. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 12, 2010, 06:51:48 PM
The issue was a change on TrafficPulse's side, and can't be changed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 14, 2010, 04:00:55 PM
Does the Weather Bulletins screen not show during one-minute IntelliStar flavors anymore? I've been under a Severe Thunderstorm Watch for over an hour now, and the Weather Bulletins screen has been missing from all three one-minute LFs thus far. It has been present on the LDL, however.

Edit: No Weather Bulletins on the two-minute LF at 4:08 PM ET. Also, the lightning bolt for the watch tab is missing after the first time the LDL cycles through the watch (I believe this is already documented).

Edit: The Bulletins screen showed at 4:18 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 15, 2010, 08:36:34 AM
I've always had that problem where watches wouldn't display on the bulletin until as long as two hours after the watch was issued.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 15, 2010, 11:29:35 PM
Flow and incident narration was disabled shortly after the overview maps were introduced. They were put back in place in markets where the overview maps were removed.  Now that the overview maps are gone, I wouldn't be surprised to see the narration for incidents and flow come back.

wait, are the overflow maps gone for good? i thought it was only temporary. :unsure:

i liked the overflow map feature. :(
Yea its a shame they are gone for good. I had hoped to have them for my area at some point
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 15, 2010, 11:35:14 PM
Glad I got clips from the Detroit area when I did then.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 17, 2010, 08:11:48 PM
Did WC start late? no lf @ 8:08pm EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2010, 06:35:18 AM
Yea its a shame they are gone for good. I had hoped to have them for my area at some point
Even though they will be missed, it is great to see the CC screen at :08/:38 again (as long as there are no bulletins, local radar, or incidents).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 20, 2010, 05:29:49 PM
Intellistar Reboot Process if anyone is interested

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0F1CC1FBDEC1EFFF (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0F1CC1FBDEC1EFFF)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on May 21, 2010, 10:51:17 AM
Yesterday (2010-05-20 14:38-0500), I saw IntelliStar 22689 displaying "Temporarily unavailable." under "Today" in the Local Forecast product. Unfortunately, I was in a public place when I saw it, and I could not tell if it used the "Our local forecast" narration because that television's volume was either muted or very low.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 21, 2010, 11:19:41 AM
Yesterday (2010-05-20 14:38-0500), I saw IntelliStar 22689 displaying "Temporarily unavailable." under "Today" in the Local Forecast product. Unfortunately, I was in a public place when I saw it, and I could not tell if it used the "Our local forecast" narration because that television's volume was either muted or very low.

I can confirm that narration was used, you should hear it in my playlist posted above.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 22, 2010, 11:42:05 AM
For some reason, the special weather statement crawling on TWC and on Weatherscan right now is only labeled as "Weather Statement" instead of "Special Weather Statement." Wonder why? I checked and the NWS still refers to it as a Special Weather Statement.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 23, 2010, 01:31:03 PM
OMG ROAD TO VENLO JUST PLAYED ON THE DIRECTV LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 24, 2010, 02:11:25 PM
Traffic Report/Flow is back on the Istar as of 2:08pm EDT on my end.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on May 24, 2010, 07:11:03 PM
I didn't think that this needed it's own topic, so:

Does anyone know if the National IntelliSTAR Crawl will be activated like last year? (I think it was 2009, but it may have been 2008.) Ya know, like saying how any tropical developent will scroll on this crawl? If it will, when will it? I think that it was a few days before the OFFICIAL start of Hurricane Season.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 25, 2010, 10:10:53 PM
I didn't think that this needed it's own topic, so:

Does anyone know if the National IntelliSTAR Crawl will be activated like last year? (I think it was 2009, but it may have been 2008.) Ya know, like saying how any tropical developent will scroll on this crawl? If it will, when will it? I think that it was a few days before the OFFICIAL start of Hurricane Season.

Thanks in advance!
If its needed I guess it will
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 26, 2010, 03:41:21 PM
I don't remember the national crawl being activated last year. If it did, I'd have a video of it. They usually do that if a major hurricane or tropical system was going to come to a certain part of the country like Hannah or Gustav
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 26, 2010, 04:43:41 PM
I don't remember the national crawl being activated last year. If it did, I'd have a video of it. They usually do that if a major hurricane or tropical system was going to come to a certain part of the country like Hannah or Gustav

Hanna was only a TS, Gustav didn't have one IIRC, and Ike had one. The one for Hanna said "TWC Update" and the one for Ike said "TWC Update" outside of Storm Alert, but while in Storm Alert, it said "Ike Update". I have a video:

September 2008 Daytime Chris Geith Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYLYr7MNoNs#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 27, 2010, 07:34:40 PM
Of all the places... I found a new XL!

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2853/traversecityweatherstar.jpg)

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2853/traversecityweatherstar.jpg)

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2853/traversecityweatherstar.jpg)

Should have come here back in March :P

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 27, 2010, 07:44:36 PM
Of all the places... I found a new XL!

([url]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2853/traversecityweatherstar.jpg[/url])

([url]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2853/traversecityweatherstar.jpg[/url])

([url]http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2853/traversecityweatherstar.jpg[/url])

Should have come here back in March :P



From silicondust?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 27, 2010, 07:49:51 PM
Nope. I'm in Traverse City :P

Traverse City Weatherstar XL- 5/27/10 6:58 PM EDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCMJLw0GROE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 27, 2010, 07:53:30 PM
Cabot, AR XL!

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 27, 2010, 09:47:25 PM
After a few uploading issues, I got a video up. Tell me your thoughts! :)

Traverse City Weatherstar XL- 5/27/10 7:39 AM EDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYKVkQTD5K4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 27, 2010, 09:53:07 PM
Wow, I'm surprised Traverse City has an XL! :o Alpena has less people and they have an intellistar..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 27, 2010, 09:54:45 PM
Cabot, AR XL!


This is around Fairfield Bay which used a 4000 previously.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 27, 2010, 09:56:08 PM
Cabot, AR XL!


This is around Fairfield Bay which used a 4000 previously.
IIRC, Matt has grandparents that live in AR and have a 4000. Is this that area?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 27, 2010, 10:03:09 PM
Wow, I'm surprised Traverse City has an XL! :o Alpena has less people and they have an intellistar..
Population really has nothing to do with the version of STAR used. It has to do with the cable company and headend itself. I've been in some very rural places in VA, NC, and SC, most of which had IntelliStars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 27, 2010, 10:22:17 PM
Wow, I'm surprised Traverse City has an XL! :o Alpena has less people and they have an intellistar..
Population really has nothing to do with the version of STAR used. It has to do with the cable company and headend itself. I've been in some very rural places in VA, NC, and SC, most of which had IntelliStars.
True, and adding to that point I found that Intellistar in South Haven... when the city only has about 5,000 people. But this is pushing boundaries. Traverse City itself only has 15,000 people, but the greater area has over 142,000. There must be an Intellistar downtown.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 28, 2010, 09:00:57 AM
Where are you now, at Acme?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 28, 2010, 10:01:30 AM
Where are you now, at Acme?
Yes, actually I am :yes:

What really puzzles me the most is that this XL is even here. Don't get me wrong at all, I am 200% for seeing an XL. But take a look at how large an area both the Petoskey and Houghton Lake XL units cover. Petoskey's unit goes all the way up to Mackinaw City. Houghton Lake's unit not only serves Houghton Lake, but also West Branch and Grayling, both of which are just about 30 miles away. And I still believe there is an Intellistar in downtown Traverse City.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on May 28, 2010, 11:05:50 PM
Poor Escanaba... covering the title bar like that on the radar. :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 29, 2010, 10:24:42 AM
My DirecTV HD LF cued just as the LF was ending and is only changing screens when segments change on TWC. :wacko:

EDIT: Cued perfectly at 10:28 (:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 29, 2010, 12:03:42 PM
Actually, a few minutes ago, the local insertion at the end of the Sherman Williams ad didn't cue, the when it was time for the LF, the SW ad popped on, and a satellite LF for the rest of the LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 30, 2010, 12:33:38 PM
Sorry to change the subject a bit here, but does anybody have a LF recording sometime around the summer 2008 of the HD sizzling sun LF intro (it's very red)? I haven't been able to find that one, and that was my favorite HD intros of all time. I saw videos of it in the past, but I haven't been able to find it lately. I hope TWC will bring that one back someday. I hope you guys know what I mean.  :blushing:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 30, 2010, 12:49:24 PM
Sorry to change the subject a bit here, but does anybody have a LF recording sometime around the summer 2008 of the HD sizzling sun LF intro (it's very red)? I haven't been able to find that one, and that was my favorite HD intros of all time. I saw videos of it in the past, but I haven't been able to find it lately. I hope TWC will bring that one back someday. I hope you guys know what I mean.  :blushing:
I know exactly what you're talking about. I have a clip on my desktop that I'll upload when I'm back home tonight or tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 30, 2010, 01:29:00 PM
Oh, that would be awesome! Thanks!  :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Darr'chelle on May 30, 2010, 10:28:19 PM
Flow and incident narration was disabled shortly after the overview maps were introduced. They were put back in place in markets where the overview maps were removed.  Now that the overview maps are gone, I wouldn't be surprised to see the narration for incidents and flow come back.

wait, are the overflow maps gone for good? i thought it was only temporary. :unsure:

i liked the overflow map feature. :(
Yea its a shame they are gone for good. I had hoped to have them for my area at some point

They needed to go out here. Major freeway growth since 2003-04 meant highways weren't coded properly or didn't show up. There were many Unavailable stretches, highways coded as major roads without color, and one stretch of highway that ended before an actual interchange. I even gave the notice to the STAR Team: they were added late, though.

The maps were outdated even when they came online for us, essentially.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 31, 2010, 03:12:14 PM
I wish TWC would use a Trammell Starks Playlist they have enough songs for each daypart Morning-Overnight
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 31, 2010, 03:14:56 PM
I wish TWC would use a Trammell Starks Playlist they have enough songs for each daypart Morning-Overnight
That would be awesome! :thrilled:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 31, 2010, 03:26:49 PM
I think if it wasn't being used as back up music they probably would use some of the songs in the regular playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 01, 2010, 05:25:16 PM
This has probably been talked about before but here's my find

http://www.twcmediakit.com/cable/local/local-on-the-8s.html (http://www.twcmediakit.com/cable/local/local-on-the-8s.html)

Also notice the HD screenshots and products in the video
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 02, 2010, 12:08:21 PM
I wish the June playlist starts already. I'm getting tired of playlists ending and starting late and then continues as a crappy bimonthly playlist, which gets boring after a while. :thumbdown: It's not the same anymore with playlists starting on the first day of the month (last time they did this was March 2009 playlist). This is the reasons why TWC needs to go back to monthly playlists and never do any crappy bimonthly playlists again :hammer: :club:. Overall, this year's playlists are horrible (all of them are bimonthly).

/me wish that the next playlist starts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 02, 2010, 03:30:07 PM
I wish the June playlist starts already. I'm getting tired of playlists ending and starting late and then continues as a crappy bimonthly playlist, which gets boring after a while. :thumbdown: It's not the same anymore with playlists starting on the first day of the month (last time they did this was March 2009 playlist). This is the reasons why TWC needs to go back to monthly playlists and never do any crappy bimonthly playlists again :hammer: :club:. Overall, this year's playlists are horrible (all of them are bimonthly).

/me wish that the next playlist starts.

I feel for ya, and the lack of smooth jazz and the repeats. Maybe when the HD Star comes out, music will be a priority for them once again.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 02, 2010, 04:47:11 PM
The HD STAR has delayed tons of other things, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's also the reason why playlist changes have been delayed so much.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 02, 2010, 04:52:42 PM
Or maybe it's because the average person doesn't notice when the playlist changes, or if it lasts for one month or two.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 02, 2010, 04:56:22 PM
Or maybe it's because the average person doesn't notice when the playlist changes, or if it lasts for one month or two.
Actually they do, I've gotten many comments and messages on YT from casual TWC viewers/average TWC viewers over the years who like the music asking about the next playlist and when they would air it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 02, 2010, 04:59:21 PM
Or maybe it's because the average person doesn't notice when the playlist changes, or if it lasts for one month or two.
Actually they do, I've gotten many comments and messages for casual TWC viewers/average TWC viewers who like the music asking about the next playlist and when they would air it.

Hmm, I'm surprised. :yes: I didn't think average viewers really knew what a "playlist" was (not to call them stupid or anything). If a song is not overplayed and many different ones are used, the average viewer may have no idea that there is certain music for a certain month. :yes:

So how long has the current playlist been out? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 02, 2010, 05:06:34 PM
Since April 20th.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 02, 2010, 08:10:40 PM
Actually they do, I've gotten many comments and messages on YT from casual TWC viewers/average TWC viewers over the years who like the music asking about the next playlist and when they would air it.
TWC even proved this back when the first smooth jazz CD came out in 2007.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 02, 2010, 08:26:14 PM
I didn't say viewer's didn't like or pay attention to the music. I'm just saying the average viewer won't notice if the playlist goes more than a month without changing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 02, 2010, 08:29:40 PM
I didn't say viewer's didn't like or pay attention to the music. I'm just saying the average viewer won't notice if the playlist goes more than a month without changing.
I'd hate to argue with that, but back in early 2008 when I was one of those "average viewers", even I noticed the music changing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on June 02, 2010, 08:44:11 PM
My favorite playlist was in the early 1990s, at the end of the "You need us for everything you do" era.  I still remember my favorite songs.  I can't identify them here, but if I heard them, I'll immediately be able to tell you which ones.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: kswx29 on June 03, 2010, 12:43:35 PM
Is it just me or is the local forecast coming on at :09 after...and rushing through.  I don't tend to watch TWC's LF except at night, and it always seems to come on at :09 and like rush through all the sections.  I barely have time to read the local conditions (of other towns) before it's movin on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on June 05, 2010, 04:52:13 PM
I wish the June playlist starts already. I'm getting tired of playlists ending and starting late and then continues as a crappy bimonthly playlist, which gets boring after a while. :thumbdown: It's not the same anymore with playlists starting on the first day of the month (last time they did this was March 2009 playlist). This is the reasons why TWC needs to go back to monthly playlists and never do any crappy bimonthly playlists again :hammer: :club:. Overall, this year's playlists are horrible (all of them are bimonthly).

/me wish that the next playlist starts.

I feel for ya, and the lack of smooth jazz and the repeats. Maybe when the HD Star comes out, music will be a priority for them once again.

Yeah, it seems this current playlist will never end. I don't think we'll see monthy playlists again.  :cry3: TWC has become very unpredictible, if not erratic with their playlists. In fact, I'll say that TWC has become reckless with their music. The new playlist could begin next week, but I would not be surprised if the playlist may not begin until mid-June, if even that soon.  :(  Also, the repeats and reduced smooth jazz is gettin really annoying. It has been a year since TWC came up with the bright idea to change their music format, and I am not satisfied with the change at all.  :club: It seems TWC is completely averse to playing smooth jazz in the morning, and especially the primetime. In the primetime, all we hear is crappy soundtrack music, and dinky soft rock.  :angry: What makes it worse is that primetime is the longest daypart!!!!!!  If TWC knows what's good for them, they'll overhaul this new format, and play smooth jazz regularly and predominantly again.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 05, 2010, 05:22:41 PM
I wish the June playlist starts already. I'm getting tired of playlists ending and starting late and then continues as a crappy bimonthly playlist, which gets boring after a while. :thumbdown: It's not the same anymore with playlists starting on the first day of the month (last time they did this was March 2009 playlist). This is the reasons why TWC needs to go back to monthly playlists and never do any crappy bimonthly playlists again :hammer: :club:. Overall, this year's playlists are horrible (all of them are bimonthly).

/me wish that the next playlist starts.

I feel for ya, and the lack of smooth jazz and the repeats. Maybe when the HD Star comes out, music will be a priority for them once again.

Yeah, it seems this current playlist will never end. I don't think we'll see monthy playlists again.  :cry3: TWC has become very unpredictible, if not erratic with their playlists. In fact, I'll say that TWC has become reckless with their music. The new playlist could begin next week, but I would not be surprised if the playlist may not begin until mid-June, if even that soon.  :(  Also, the repeats and reduced smooth jazz is gettin really annoying. It has been a year since TWC came up with the bright idea to change their music format, and I am not satisfied with the change at all.  :club: It seems TWC is completely averse to playing smooth jazz in the morning, and especially the primetime. In the primetime, all we hear is crappy soundtrack music, and dinky soft rock.  :angry: What makes it worse is that primetime is the longest daypart!!!!!!  If TWC knows what's good for them, they'll overhaul this new format, and play smooth jazz regularly and predominantly again.
Why don't you write a kind letter to them? This can certainly help
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on June 07, 2010, 12:50:55 PM
I wish the June playlist starts already. I'm getting tired of playlists ending and starting late and then continues as a crappy bimonthly playlist, which gets boring after a while. :thumbdown: It's not the same anymore with playlists starting on the first day of the month (last time they did this was March 2009 playlist). This is the reasons why TWC needs to go back to monthly playlists and never do any crappy bimonthly playlists again :hammer: :club:. Overall, this year's playlists are horrible (all of them are bimonthly).

/me wish that the next playlist starts.

I feel for ya, and the lack of smooth jazz and the repeats. Maybe when the HD Star comes out, music will be a priority for them once again.

Yeah, it seems this current playlist will never end. I don't think we'll see monthy playlists again.  :cry3: TWC has become very unpredictible, if not erratic with their playlists. In fact, I'll say that TWC has become reckless with their music. The new playlist could begin next week, but I would not be surprised if the playlist may not begin until mid-June, if even that soon.  :(  Also, the repeats and reduced smooth jazz is gettin really annoying. It has been a year since TWC came up with the bright idea to change their music format, and I am not satisfied with the change at all.  :club: It seems TWC is completely averse to playing smooth jazz in the morning, and especially the primetime. In the primetime, all we hear is crappy soundtrack music, and dinky soft rock.  :angry: What makes it worse is that primetime is the longest daypart!!!!!!  If TWC knows what's good for them, they'll overhaul this new format, and play smooth jazz regularly and predominantly again.
Why don't you write a kind letter to them? This can certainly help

If the June/July playlist is subpar or worse, I just might do that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 07, 2010, 02:10:35 PM
A letter?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 07, 2010, 02:21:30 PM
A letter?  :rolleyes:
I agree. If TWC doesn't respond to emails, why would they listen to letters. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 07, 2010, 04:07:35 PM
A letter?  :rolleyes:
umm you were the one who suggested it last year.. :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 07, 2010, 04:15:03 PM
A letter?  :rolleyes:
umm you were the one who suggested it last year.. :whistling:
Did anybody do it? Probably not. At this point in the game its not worth it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on June 07, 2010, 10:38:23 PM
I don't mind the current playlist, but I think that that the smooth jazz is a more suitable theme for the Local Forecasts. As long as the music's good, then I don't care how often they change the music. Hehe. But I do, too, believe that changing the playlist monthly makes a lot of sense. If TWC doesn't care about the music, it would be great if we could arrange the monthly playlists here and send it to them. But that probably will never happen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 08, 2010, 03:13:36 PM
Whoever decided to add "movie themes" to the music genre of TWC really needs to rethink about that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 08, 2010, 08:38:52 PM
Anyone ever see everything on the Almanac on the IntelliStar totally missing?

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1248/snapshot20100608203612.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 08, 2010, 08:43:34 PM
Anyone ever see everything on the Almanac on the IntelliStar totally missing?

([url]http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1248/snapshot20100608203612.jpg[/url])

I've seen the layer not fading in underneath the information several times, but I have not seen what you're showing in the picture :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on June 08, 2010, 09:06:38 PM
Wow - I've never seen an Almanac page without data!  That information is supposed to be generated from within the Intellistar unit itself, based on geographic location, so it's "technically" not supposed to ever expire, since it can be created even without a data feed from TWC.

Guess this picture proved my theory wrong!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 08, 2010, 09:11:42 PM
Wow - I've never seen an Almanac page without data!  That information is supposed to be generated from within the Intellistar unit itself, based on geographic location, so it's "technically" not supposed to ever expire, since it can be created even without a data feed from TWC.

Guess this picture proved my theory wrong!

That's what I thought, but I guess my unit didn't have enough time to calculate this data right after the reboot. In case any one is wondering what an IntelliStar looks like with absolutely no data, today's your lucky day. :P

IntelliStar - June 8, 2010 - 1:38pm - Reboot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XymtuWqLp44#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 08, 2010, 09:35:48 PM
That must be very rare... all of my videos that have unavailable data still have almanac information in it (but with moons instead of temperatures).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on June 08, 2010, 11:47:47 PM
That must be very rare... all of my videos that have unavailable data still have almanac information in it (but with moons instead of temperatures).

Right - that's the way it should be.  Temperature data requires a data feed from TWC, while moon data is calculated directly on the Intellistar itself.  Actually, all of the Stars calculate this data on their own, along with sunrise and sunset information, which is why the Almanac page should never expire or be "unavailable."  So that's why this photo really surprised me.

I mentioned a while back about the XL that my area had, and how it seldom worked properly.  There were many times (especially in the morning) when data kept expiring without getting updated, so there were a lot of "temporarily unavailable" screens, but the Almanac page, if nothing else, always behaved properly.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on June 08, 2010, 11:56:20 PM
In case any one is wondering what an IntelliStar looks like with absolutely no data, today's your lucky day. :P

It would be nice if an Intellistar could simply not cue for a local forecast and show the national broadcast instead if it has absolutely no information to show.

At least an Intellistar still looks "pretty" with no data.  I remember the days when the WeatherStar 4000 or, even worse, the WeatherStar III had no data.  Nothing's worse than looking at three minutes (remember when local forecasts used to take longer than the blink of an eye?) of a blue screen saying "No report" and such.

Well, at least your Intellistar wasn't 100% without information... it did have a radar/satellite frame to show in the LDL. :)

Random memory, speaking of the WeatherStar III.  We were under a tornado watch, so the brown screen appeared with the scrolling warning.  In the middle of its second repeat, a tornado warning was issued, but instead of the red screen completely replacing the brown screen, the red began right at the first line of the warning, scrolling up along with the text and replacing the brown.  When the warning had finished after a couple of repeats, the red ended at the last line, scrolled up, and we saw the brown again appearing from underneath the red, and that stayed on for one more repeat of the watch before returning to the national broadcast.  This would have been in the summer of 1991 or 1992 at the absolute latest, and was the only time I ever saw such an "effect" on the WeatherStar III.  Never saw it on the WeatherStar 4000 when it also scrolled the red warnings before putting them on the LDL line.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 09, 2010, 12:04:52 AM
This is unrelated, and I have no idea why I was just thinking of this... but remember the days of the L-bar? And how when the L-bar was first cued it needed an extra second or two to render the radar images (thus why viewers would see "Local Doppler Radar" before the mini radar actually appeared? I wonder if they worked that issue out for the mini radar on the LDL, or if that's why the data itself (text and all) takes a second or two to pop-up once the blue background rises up from the bottom of the screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 09, 2010, 12:03:34 PM
Looks to me like that issue was addressed.

On another note, not that it's a huge deal, one of my teachers' dad lives up in Traverse City, on the opposite corner to where I found that XL. I asked her to send some snapshots of each of the STARs to him, asking which one he sees. According to his response, that same XL I found serves the entire city. I still don't think even the winter (permanent) population is low enough to allow an XL to serve that area. I understand it does not directly correlate with population or demographics, but this is pushing limits.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 11, 2010, 05:36:55 PM
I'm really starting to rethink months of learning about demographics and what is involved in what type of STAR unit I find. I found Michigan's 6th known XL in Sault Ste Marie, MI.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 11, 2010, 05:43:11 PM
That's because the star type doesn't necessarily have to do with demographics.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 11, 2010, 06:02:23 PM
Has anyone seen the new Sun/Fog icon?

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7757/snapshot20100611180053.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 11, 2010, 06:09:01 PM
Has anyone seen the new Sun/Fog icon?

([url]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7757/snapshot20100611180053.jpg[/url])

Yeah, I have. Really nothing special. The size of the font in relation to the icon makes it look like it's screaming at me.

Also, odd to hear "Locomotion" by James Brown at 6:18 PM EDT...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 11, 2010, 07:31:04 PM
Here is Road to Velno playing via TWC's dual feed if anyone is interested:


TWC Dual Feed Song - Road To Velno - May 23, 2010.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kin-GUSeeBU#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on June 11, 2010, 09:01:24 PM
Here is Road to Velno playing via TWC's dual feed if anyone is interested:


TWC Dual Feed Song - Road To Velno - May 23, 2010.wmv ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kin-GUSeeBU#[/url])


That would be a nice song to bring back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 11, 2010, 09:51:31 PM
Well shifting back to the subject of rarely seen icons for a moment, has anyone seen the one for Sawyer there? I've seen the drizzle/fog icon many times, but this one looks new for some reason  :thinking:

(http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/1105/saultstemariexlrainandf.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 11, 2010, 10:30:37 PM
Well shifting back to the subject of rarely seen icons for a moment, has anyone seen the one fore Sawyer there? I've seen the rain/fog icon many times, but this one looks new for some reason  :thinking:

I believe that's actually Drizzle/Fog. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 11, 2010, 11:11:05 PM
Has anyone seen the new Sun/Fog icon?

([url]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7757/snapshot20100611180053.jpg[/url])


I didn't think they put "text" icons on the Week Ahead screen because the text below the icon takes care of that. :thinking: :unsure: Is this something new? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 11, 2010, 11:35:11 PM
I've seen that drizzle and fog icon on my intellistar once or twice.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 12, 2010, 12:47:33 AM
Saw that fog and drizzle icon a lot in the XL days, because KPIT reported fog and drizzle a lot.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 12, 2010, 04:21:36 AM
Well I've seen the drizzle and fog icon many a time before, but notice how the icon I'm pointing out has the rain drops totally obscured. I'm used to  the drizzle and fog icon being just a fog cloud with three un-obscured rows of rain drops below it.

Also, why is it that most XL's have the main observation site also on the 8 city? There were some very nasty storms that went through TC and Petoskey last night, and the only reporting site on this XL's 8 city that is in the lower peninsula is Pellston. And that was on the north edge of the line of storms that moved through that area. As far as I've known, the thumb's XL is the only XL I've seen (in person) where the main CC site is not also on the 8 city.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 12, 2010, 08:44:31 AM
Here's Light Rain/Fog

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8834/fograinlt1.jpg)

Video: New Bedford Local Current Conditions for 3/22/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSA16aU--ds#ws)

The narration said Currently the temperature is 49 degrees with light rain.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 12, 2010, 11:01:46 AM
Trammell @ 10:00AM CST.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 12, 2010, 12:08:54 PM
Also, why is it that most XL's have the main observation site also on the 8 city?
All STARs are like this, including even a few intellistars (though it was a lot more common before HiRAD). In your case, it's  likely either because 1) there aren't enough airports in the area or 2) in case you missed the data on the first CC page.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 12, 2010, 12:38:08 PM
Also, why is it that most XL's have the main observation site also on the 8 city?
All STARs are like this, including even a few intellistars (though it was a lot more common before HiRAD). In your case, it's  likely either because 1) there aren't enough airports in the area or 2) in case you missed the data on the first CC page.
A shortage of observation sites is far from an issue up here. Surprisingly, there are a lot of airports in the northland. For example, Traverse City, Cadillac, Bellaire (between TC and Petoskey), Petoskey, Charlevoix, Gaylord, Pellston, Cheboygan, Beaver Island, Mackinac Island, Chippewa Arpt (halfway between the bridge and the soo), Sault Ste Marie municipal, Newberry, Manistique, Marquette, Escanaba... just to name a few.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 12, 2010, 02:41:28 PM
Well I've seen the drizzle and fog icon many a time before, but notice how the icon I'm pointing out has the rain drops totally obscured. I'm used to  the drizzle and fog icon being just a fog cloud with three un-obscured rows of rain drops below it.
The icon your picture is the XL's official Light Drizzle & Fog icon. The other icon you're describing is just the Light Drizzle icon, when no fog is reported.


Also, why is it that most XL's have the main observation site also on the 8 city? There were some very nasty storms that went through TC and Petoskey last night, and the only reporting site on this XL's 8 city that is in the lower peninsula is Pellston. And that was on the north edge of the line of storms that moved through that area. As far as I've known, the thumb's XL is the only XL I've seen (in person) where the main CC site is not also on the 8 city.
Almost all XL's have the main ob on the local obs screen, and as Mike said, most IntelliStars did pre-HiRAD. The reason they did that with the XL is pretty much because back in those days there weren't as many ob sites as there are today. The reason the STAR you described might not have the main ob in the local obs is that it was more recently configured (for the most part, they no longer insert the main ob in the local obs pages when there are enough other ob sites nearby). It could also be for the fact that the unit serves a very large area and they needed to get another ob point on the local obs in place of the main ob site.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 12, 2010, 05:28:16 PM
The XL he was referring to (in Bad Axe/Pigeon) has only been serving that area since 2006, so you're probably right Tyler.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 12, 2010, 05:35:45 PM
I dunno if things are different now for IntelliSTARs, but as of July 2009, 24629 didn't have the main Obs site in the latest obs. Main CC site is Downtown Tampa.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 12, 2010, 05:47:37 PM
I dunno if things are different now for IntelliSTARs, but as of July 2009, 24629 didn't have the main Obs site in the latest obs. Main CC site is Downtown Tampa.
That's normal - most Intellistars don't have the main ob site on the 8-cities now that there's HiRAD and trupoint to cover virtually any city.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on June 13, 2010, 12:01:21 AM
Man, my STAR has been out since Wednesday morning. I tried e-mailing FPB from their website, no luck. Not good, especially since we had a close call with severe tonight...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on June 13, 2010, 01:19:51 AM
Man, my STAR has been out since Wednesday morning. I tried e-mailing FPB from their website, no luck. Not good, especially since we had a close call with severe tonight...
launch a thread in the weatherstar tech support forum.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 14, 2010, 01:13:40 PM
Well golly, my Intellistar just froze on me, except this time I saw it live. Froze several times during the LF, and then aborted halfway into the text based. This has been happening a lot the past couple of months, but I'm not so sure I should report it. More pressing issues, imo.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 14, 2010, 07:07:14 PM
Funny you should mention about the 8th city thing. When Brian modified the xl coding to accept emulator data the CC and 8th city data being inputed had to be the same or it would throw a fit
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 14, 2010, 07:13:44 PM
Funny you should mention about the 8th city thing. When Brian modified the xl coding to accept emulator data the CC and 8th city data being inputed had to be the same or it would throw a fit
One of the reasons I brought it up was just that I noticed the Petoskey and TC XL's each have their own main city on their 8 city, but not each other, if you know what I mean. So wait, you're saying the main site does or does not have to be on the emulator's 8 city?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 14, 2010, 07:15:07 PM
Funny you should mention about the 8th city thing. When Brian modified the xl coding to accept emulator data the CC and 8th city data being inputed had to be the same or it would throw a fit
One of the reasons I brought it up was just that I noticed the Petoskey and TC XL's each have their own main city on their 8 city, but not each other, if you know what I mean. So wait, you're saying the main site does or does not have to be on the emulator's 8 city?
In our case the main site and 8th city had to be the same :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 14, 2010, 10:59:52 PM
It seems like there is some delay tonight while starting the LF music. At the start of every LF, you can normally hear the music for a brief second before the IntelliStar narration kicks in, but tonight, there it has been completely silent before the narration.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 15, 2010, 07:23:23 AM
It seems like there is some delay tonight while starting the LF music. At the start of every LF, you can normally hear the music for a brief second before the IntelliStar narration kicks in, but tonight, there it has been completely silent before the narration.
For some reason, I thought that was something that was up with my Intellistar. There's always a black screen before the station ID and LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 15, 2010, 09:24:09 AM
"Perfect" by Smashing Pumpkins just aired at 9:18 AM ET. :blink:

EDIT: "Sunshine" by Timbuk3 at 10:28 AM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 15, 2010, 10:43:16 AM
Sunshine is apparently on the Wake Up With Al playlist this morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 15, 2010, 11:24:33 AM
Malibu Nights by Armik played at :58 which is an overnight song...:blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 15, 2010, 01:05:09 PM
Seems like TWC is waiting until July for a new playlist, especially because of everything else going on with the network.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on June 16, 2010, 11:07:08 PM
Seems like TWC is waiting until July for a new playlist, especially because of everything else going on with the network.
What else is going on with the network? I think they are just going with bi monthly playlsits
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 17, 2010, 08:29:35 AM
It's obvious, noticing the increase in Harry Potter ads on all NBC networks (not least of which is TWC), that the inclusion of Hedwigs Theme on the LF playlist is a promotion. But I just heard Jen Carfagno mentioning on TWC that the Harry Potter resort is opening in Orlando this weekend. Steph and Al will be there promoting it next week. I would expect this list to continue through at least next week for that very reason. I'm sure you all remember "Olympic Spirit", which irritated me faster than it was put on the list, being continued for so long just because of the Winter Olympics in February.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 17, 2010, 11:34:20 AM
Seems like TWC is waiting until July for a new playlist, especially because of everything else going on with the network.
What else is going on with the network? I think they are just going with bi monthly playlsits
Well the June list was supposed to start 2 weeks ago based on the patterns and they always start on a Tuesday or Thursday. It would make sense to start for them to start a list on July because of the various things going on in TWC like the HD STAR, WUWA, etc and also I suspect they didn't have enough new songs for the June list (likewise there would be a ton of repeats like this playlist) so they probably wanted to wait a little longer for more artists to send in their albums to fill in the gap.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 17, 2010, 11:39:48 AM
Seems like TWC is waiting until July for a new playlist, especially because of everything else going on with the network.
What else is going on with the network? I think they are just going with bi monthly playlsits
Well the June list was supposed to start 2 weeks ago based on the patterns and they always start on a Tuesday or Thursday. It would make sense to start for them to start a list on July because of the various things going on in TWC like the HD STAR, WUWA, etc and also I suspect they didn't have enough new songs for the June list (likewise there would be a ton of repeats like this playlist) so they probably wanted to wait a little longer for more artists to send in their albums to fill in the gap.
I'm 50/50 with that. As Aaron mentioned, they were promoting that Harry Potter attraction on NBC networks, and Hedwig's Theme was on this playlist. I could have sworn, though, that the playlist with Olympic Spirit changed right after the Olympics were over.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 17, 2010, 12:08:45 PM
Seems like TWC is waiting until July for a new playlist, especially because of everything else going on with the network.
What else is going on with the network? I think they are just going with bi monthly playlsits
Well the June list was supposed to start 2 weeks ago based on the patterns and they always start on a Tuesday or Thursday. It would make sense to start for them to start a list on July because of the various things going on in TWC like the HD STAR, WUWA, etc and also I suspect they didn't have enough new songs for the June list (likewise there would be a ton of repeats like this playlist) so they probably wanted to wait a little longer for more artists to send in their albums to fill in the gap.
I'm 50/50 with that. As Aaron mentioned, they were promoting that Harry Potter attraction on NBC networks, and Hedwig's Theme was on this playlist. I could have sworn, though, that the playlist with Olympic Spirit changed right after the Olympics were over.
Wait, when did the olympics end?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 17, 2010, 01:13:50 PM
The Olympics ended on February 28th, but the playlist with that song ended March 4th.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 17, 2010, 03:04:58 PM
My IntelliSTAR froze 3 times, went to the Satellite LF, and is now showing the national LDL.

EDIT: Satellite LF @ 2:08 CT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 18, 2010, 06:43:05 PM
Well I have both a Flash Flood Watch and a Severe Thunderstorm Watch, yet only the Severe Thunderstorm Watch is showing up on my bulletins screen (22842). I've had the Flash Flood Watch since 6:00 EDT, and I checked the zone forecast for Ingham County... it shows up there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 18, 2010, 06:47:21 PM
I have no TWC feed (sometimes static), but the XL has been queing. I just caught it looping a minute ago. Now there's a blank screen with a Severe Thunderstorm Watch on the LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 19, 2010, 02:06:25 PM
Has anyone noticed that there has been a second or two of black before the station IDs and the local forecasts boot the past couple days?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 19, 2010, 02:11:07 PM
Has anyone noticed that there has been a second or two of black before the station IDs and the local forecasts boot the past couple days?
You bet I have. Station IDs and promos are cutting in late, and commercials/TWC promos are cut in to. I also notice local ads are coming in a second late as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 19, 2010, 02:20:30 PM
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this then, I didn't say anything because I didn't think it was worth mentioning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 20, 2010, 05:29:13 AM
I've noticed on a couple of my E.L. clips that there is buzzing/popping right as the LF fades in and the narration begins. Is this part of that nationwide issue that has occasionally occurred?

Apparently I'm hearing buzzing on the HD LF as well...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on June 20, 2010, 05:30:55 AM
I've noticed on a couple of my E.L. clips that there is buzzing/popping right as the LF fades in and the narration begins. Is this part of that nationwide issue that has occasionally occurred?
Yes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 21, 2010, 08:53:25 AM
The Record High Temperature screen is being shown on 24745 right now.
Memphis IntelliSTAR - Record High Temperatures - June 21, 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h_B95U_-20#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 21, 2010, 11:43:22 AM
The "First Day of Summer" LOT8s opener was shown today...it's really nothing special, though. :(

Was there one for Father's Day yesterday? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 21, 2010, 11:45:03 AM
The "First Day of Summer" LOT8s opener was shown today...it's really nothing special, though. :(

Was there one for Father's Day yesterday? :dunno:
Yes. I wasn't too crazy about the Father's Day one but I do like the summer one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 21, 2010, 11:47:01 AM
Interesting. They just played a Coppertone-sponsored UV forecast local insert, and right when the local portion cued, I heard the IntelliStar buzzing. I've never heard it outside the local forecast before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 21, 2010, 02:21:29 PM
Has the audio on anyone else's IntelliStar been dropping in and out? Mine has been today and a couple of times before today recently.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 21, 2010, 02:40:27 PM
Actually, the music on the Satellite LF just dropped out for about a second.........
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 21, 2010, 09:32:26 PM
When did they change the textured snow to solid snow on the Satellite LF regional maps?

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2544/snapshot20100621212953.jpg)

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8486/snapshot20100621212924.jpg)

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 21, 2010, 10:19:11 PM
Was that first picture from the meltdown? Because I'm pretty sure the snow color codes changed around May 2005.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 21, 2010, 10:21:26 PM
Around May 2005, IIRC.
I'd look at the logo if I were you. ;) :P

I remember the maps looking like that back in 2005 during Katrina, only thing was the Satellite LF had mix-cased letters in 2005 on the Metro/3-Day/Radar-Satellite map titlebars until the new on-air titlebars were implemented into the Thunderstorm/Precip forecasts, which occurred either in late 2005 or early 2006. I don't know when the textured snow got changed as I never watched TWC much in 2006. So my guess would be when the icons got upgraded.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 21, 2010, 10:22:56 PM
That first picture was from the meltdown on 1/22/08, which reverted a lot of things on the satellite LF. But I'm pretty sure it was in 2005 as I stated, a few months before the BWTL relaunch.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 21, 2010, 10:27:08 PM
That first picture was from the meltdown on 1/22/08, which reverted a lot of things on the satellite LF. But I'm pretty sure it was in 2005 as I stated, a few months before the BWTL relaunch.
Right, but wouldn't the titlebars and logo have reverted as well? :unsure: I thought the relaunch was in August 2005. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 22, 2010, 01:44:51 AM
Odd, I think my Intellistar just rebooted as I was watching it :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 23, 2010, 10:00:19 AM
The Satellite LF is starting off with the Precip Forecast than going to a Watches/Warnings slide. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 23, 2010, 10:10:03 AM
The Satellite LF is starting off with the Precip Forecast than going to a Watches/Warnings slide. :huh:
Fixed at 10:08. And I can't seem to edit posts. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 23, 2010, 11:29:08 AM
The Satellite LF is starting off with the Precip Forecast than going to a Watches/Warnings slide. :huh:
Fixed at 10:08. And I can't seem to edit posts. :unsure:

But doesn't it always do that? :blink: Or are you talking about HD? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 23, 2010, 01:00:32 PM
The Satellite LF is starting off with the Precip Forecast than going to a Watches/Warnings slide. :huh:
Fixed at 10:08. And I can't seem to edit posts. :unsure:

But doesn't it always do that? :blink: Or are you talking about HD? :unsure:
Watches/Warnings have always been first. If it only needs one screen, the Precip Forecast would be replaced followed by the Thunderstorm Forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 23, 2010, 02:02:45 PM
It's been like that ocassionaly. If u see my sunshine by Timbuk3 vid u will also see the same thing . I presume it's because of the updAtes of when the warnings come into effect
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan1123 on June 23, 2010, 08:52:21 PM
Let me ask this...there was a Sports bar in Omaha that had Direct TV and on the LF is shows a forecast for somewhere in California not Omaha. What up with that
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 23, 2010, 10:08:49 PM
Let me ask this...there was a Sports bar in Omaha that had Direct TV and on the LF is shows a forecast for somewhere in California not Omaha. What up with that
They had the ZIP code set wrong on their receiver box.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 24, 2010, 02:54:17 PM
Someone decapitated my "C"s!

(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/408/snapshot20100624145301.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on June 24, 2010, 06:46:33 PM
Someone decapitated my "C"s!

Maybe they wanted to have their cake and eat it, too!  Off with their heads!  :club: :hammer:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 27, 2010, 11:08:44 PM
Was the outdoor activity forecast discontinued? I haven't seen it on my STAR in nearly a year, even after the traffic maps being discontinued. I still, however, see the schoolday forecast during the school year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 27, 2010, 11:50:53 PM
Was the outdoor activity forecast discontinued? I haven't seen it on my STAR in nearly a year, even after the traffic maps being discontinued. I still, however, see the schoolday forecast during the school year.
It's still alive and well. I suppose because you have more products on your STAR, the OAF gets bumped to a lower priority.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 28, 2010, 12:07:38 AM
Was the outdoor activity forecast discontinued? I haven't seen it on my STAR in nearly a year, even after the traffic maps being discontinued. I still, however, see the schoolday forecast during the school year.

Maybe if Traffic Flow only was allowed to show up when Traffic Report is shown, then maybe you would be able to see OAF
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 30, 2010, 10:33:02 AM
Is the music randomization broken today? "Love of Strings" by Moby and "Oscillate Wildly" by The Smiths played today on WUWA. :huh: However, :18 had the morning Ryan Farish song.

Also, it seems 1:30 flavors have been shortened to 1:00 flavors today as part of Alex coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 30, 2010, 10:39:50 AM
a normal 1 min flavor for long form :58 @ 10:38am
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 30, 2010, 11:42:17 AM
So far it's 1 min flavors right now with the :08 and :38 lf's dropped. I also heard an overnight song, "Dreaming You" by Lynn Patrick at :58. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 30, 2010, 12:44:37 PM
I've heard just 2 mornings and the rest were primetime and WUWA had normal music from the actual list, but dayparts were mixed up. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 01, 2010, 03:41:38 PM
Strange, there was a minor change to my IntelliStar today. Fort Dix on the radars and metro map have been replaced with "Joint Base MDL."

EDIT: Apparently Fort Dix became part of the Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst last October...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Base_McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Base_McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst)

Jesse, did you notice any change with McGuire AFB on your IntelliStar?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 01, 2010, 05:12:43 PM
Was anyone else aware that the blue LDL was brought back on Dish's LF??  :huh:  I went to ATL, and when I turned on the TV, it had the blue LDL....
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 01, 2010, 06:16:48 PM
Is it me, or have the basemaps on the Sat LF changed a little? :unsure: First snapshot is from September 2008 and the second one is from May 2010.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 01, 2010, 07:22:29 PM
I was watching a video from Kipkay....and noticed that he is showing an IntelliSTAR at the beginning:

Weekend Project: Super TV-B-Gone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v17o2itd-lU&feature=related#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 01, 2010, 07:25:08 PM
I was watching a video from Kipkay....and noticed that he is showing an IntelliSTAR at the beginning:

Weekend Project: Super TV-B-Gone ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v17o2itd-lU&feature=related#ws[/url])

Wow, I didn't know he was from my area! :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 02, 2010, 09:35:26 AM
Found an XL in Estes Park, CO

Estes Park XL #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtpdQ-YnMZc#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on July 02, 2010, 10:10:14 AM
Strange, there was a minor change to my IntelliStar today. Fort Dix on the radars and metro map have been replaced with "Joint Base MDL."

EDIT: Apparently Fort Dix became part of the Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst last October...
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Base_McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Base_McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst[/url])

Jesse, did you notice any change with McGuire AFB on your IntelliStar?
My IntelliStar never had Fort Dix on the radar or Metro maps. McGuire AFB has never been on my radar. It is still on my metro maps though as "Mcguire AFB" (yes, the G is not capitalized).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 03, 2010, 08:08:09 PM
Does anyone miss the previous icon set?

Final Transmission of TWC's previous Icons set 2006-2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LnkF-tTxpE#)

Weatherscan Brockton, MA Before-After Update (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJTSxqsSBZ4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 03, 2010, 09:26:15 PM
Yes I do, I hated them at first but they warmed up to me. I especially liked the thunderstorm , blowing snow, wind, and rain icons.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 04, 2010, 01:24:55 AM
The previous icon set was definitely more realistic than the current ones.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on July 04, 2010, 03:56:11 PM
Is this some kind of new flavor on the XL? Cuz I've never seen this before...

Estes Park XL #4 (New Flavor??) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Z2-HBs0hc#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 04, 2010, 04:01:44 PM
That flavor has been in use since WUWA premiered. It airs at :18/:48 during WUWA and at :48 from 7-10 weekdays and 11-2 everyday. It was actually in use before that as well however, from 2002-2004.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 06, 2010, 03:06:51 PM
This was recorded on my trip to Atlanta, GA back in June. My tuner was acting up, so after about 30 seconds of being up, it would freeze. But I thought I would at least get a partial clip, because most of us rarely get to see the national blue LDL bar anymore (unless you have Dish). It cut out in the middle because my tuner froze mid-LF.

Partial Reording Of Dish Network's Local On The 8's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omwfBSvYD4U#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on July 06, 2010, 06:39:56 PM
Does anyone miss the previous icon set?
Yea but the past is the past I suppose. Funny how everyone "hated" the previous icon set and now that the icons have a more XL look people still hate them  :hammer:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 06, 2010, 06:58:33 PM
Yea but the past is the past I suppose. Funny how everyone "hated" the previous icon set and now that the icons have a more XL look people still hate them  :hammer:
I think what throws people off the most is the same icons are used for several different conditions (i.e. showers/light rain, and rain use the same icon, as well as drizzle/few showers, thunderstorms/strong thunderstorms, and isolated/scattered to name a few).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 08, 2010, 08:44:41 AM
Wow, this is a FIRST!!
Our 3 cities on our LDL are Memphis, Germantown, and Horn Lake.

I asked the STAR Team to change Germantown to West Memphis, and Horn Lake to Southaven. They made the changes that I wanted, but we still have Germantown on our LDL! Yes, that's right, we now have 4 CITIES on our LDL!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 08, 2010, 10:30:37 AM
The new LDL has the ability to show 5 cities (one primary, four secondary).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 10, 2010, 10:28:43 PM
Providence, RI Metro Map

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9982/pmetro.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on July 11, 2010, 11:02:59 PM
I just seen the XL use an unusual 1 minute flavor. I dont think I have seen it before.
The flavor was: Current Conditions > Daypart Forecast > Extended Forecast > Radar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 12, 2010, 06:32:41 PM
I was greeted to a surprise when I arrived at work this morning as someone had TWC on through a separate cable network (not Comcast) that is used for the Virginia Tech campus.  Blacksburg, VA has a WeatherStar 4000, and it didn't show any obvious signs of degradation.  It's nice to know the 4000s are still out there and going strong. B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 12, 2010, 09:58:44 PM
I was greeted to a surprise when I arrived at work this morning as someone had TWC on through a separate cable network (not Comcast) that is used for the Virginia Tech campus.  Blacksburg, VA has a WeatherStar 4000, and it didn't show any obvious signs of degradation.  It's nice to know the 4000s are still out there and going strong. B)
Can you post a video or picture? Not a surprise hearing this since many college campuses and their own cable systems use older TWC Stars like the Jr at Rutgers and Penn State. (both replaced by DirecTV now)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 13, 2010, 04:01:43 AM
Can you post a video or picture? Not a surprise hearing this since many college campuses and their own cable systems use older TWC Stars like the Jr at Rutgers and Penn State. (both replaced by DirecTV now)
I don't think I'll be able to do so at work as they don't want people taking pictures around or inside a federal government office, but I'll try if I see it somewhere else.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on July 14, 2010, 05:59:27 PM
I was greeted to a surprise when I arrived at work this morning as someone had TWC on through a separate cable network (not Comcast) that is used for the Virginia Tech campus.  Blacksburg, VA has a WeatherStar 4000, and it didn't show any obvious signs of degradation.  It's nice to know the 4000s are still out there and going strong. B)
Can you post a video or picture? Not a surprise hearing this since many college campuses and their own cable systems use older TWC Stars like the Jr at Rutgers and Penn State. (both replaced by DirecTV now)
Wait I thought this was already known. Ive seen it several times a few years back. I could have sworn there was video on YT of it  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
I was greeted to a surprise when I arrived at work this morning as someone had TWC on through a separate cable network (not Comcast) that is used for the Virginia Tech campus.  Blacksburg, VA has a WeatherStar 4000, and it didn't show any obvious signs of degradation.  It's nice to know the 4000s are still out there and going strong. B)
Can you post a video or picture? Not a surprise hearing this since many college campuses and their own cable systems use older TWC Stars like the Jr at Rutgers and Penn State. (both replaced by DirecTV now)
Wait I thought this was already known. Ive seen it several times a few years back. I could have sworn there was video on YT of it  :unsure:
Was it on your YT account? I saw a video of the Wakefield, VA 4000 but IDK if its that same 4000 we're talking about.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 15, 2010, 01:46:56 PM
It seems Virginia is a common place to find 4000s. The one Patrick is talking about is exclusive to Virginia Tech and reports from Blacksburg.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 15, 2010, 10:53:18 PM
It seems Virginia is a common place to find 4000s. The one Patrick is talking about is exclusive to Virginia Tech and reports from Blacksburg.
That's correct.  I didn't realize until staring at it during a break today that this 4000 still has the original TWC gradient logo on the upper-left corner during the LF.  The STAR ID is 3950 if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 15, 2010, 11:01:19 PM
It seems Virginia is a common place to find 4000s. The one Patrick is talking about is exclusive to Virginia Tech and reports from Blacksburg.
That's correct.  I didn't realize until staring at it during a break today that this 4000 still has the original TWC gradient logo on the upper-left corner during the LF.  The STAR ID is 3950 if anyone is interested.
Wow, the original logo? I thought all 4000s were updated to the newer logo by 2000.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 15, 2010, 11:09:00 PM
Wow, the original logo? I thought all 4000s were updated to the newer logo by 2000.
Well, I'll have to look more closely to see if it's indeed what I believe.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2010, 11:09:34 PM
Wow, the original logo? I thought all 4000s were updated to the newer logo by 2000.
Well, I'll have to look more closely to see if it's indeed what I believe.
Well, didn't the Ocracoke, NC 4000 also have the original TWC logo?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 15, 2010, 11:18:32 PM
Wow, the original logo? I thought all 4000s were updated to the newer logo by 2000.

Well, I'll have to look more closely to see if it's indeed what I believe.

Well, didn't the Ocracoke, NC 4000 also have the original TWC logo?

Ocracoke, NC WeatherStar 4000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yPadI17oWI#)

It has the newer logo.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 15, 2010, 11:36:59 PM
Pic from taiganet forums
(http://www.taiganet.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=255)

interesting how that snapshot has the old logo
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2010, 11:41:23 PM
Pic from taiganet forums
([url]http://www.taiganet.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=255[/url])

interesting how that snapshot has the old logo

Yup, I thought so. Interesting how it got upgraded.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 15, 2010, 11:56:01 PM
Are you sure that's the old logo and it doesn't just appear to look that way? The picture quality isn't that great to begin with...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2010, 11:58:07 PM
Are you sure that's the old logo and it doesn't just appear to look that way? The picture quality isn't that great to begin with...
good point.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 15, 2010, 11:59:55 PM
Pic from taiganet forums
([url]http://www.taiganet.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=255[/url])

interesting how that snapshot has the old logo

I'm positive that it's the 1996-2005 TWC logo in that picture.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 16, 2010, 12:01:22 AM
Plus, I highly doubt TWC were to have the capabilities to upgrade a 4000 easily by that time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on July 16, 2010, 04:49:51 AM
It seems Virginia is a common place to find 4000s. The one Patrick is talking about is exclusive to Virginia Tech and reports from Blacksburg.
I have a cousin in Blacksburg at Tech that I visited a few years back. I recall the 4000 but I swore I saw a video on YT of it at one time. I cant seem to find it now. Hummm
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 16, 2010, 11:01:51 AM
It seems Virginia is a common place to find 4000s. The one Patrick is talking about is exclusive to Virginia Tech and reports from Blacksburg.
I have a cousin in Blacksburg at Tech that I visited a few years back. I recall the 4000 but I swore I saw a video on YT of it at one time. I cant seem to find it now. Hummm
There was also one in Fredricksburg back in 2005. I was shocked to find out via Youtube that Wakefield had one! :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 18, 2010, 04:13:28 PM
I heard South of Market by Joyce Cooling on the SD satellite lf at 3:58pm. During that same time, Winding Down by Josh Harris played on the HD feed
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 20, 2010, 10:21:59 AM
This morning, I've noticed that the animation of the radar on my IntelliStar has been very jumpy. I don't know if it's a problem with the actual radar data or the IntelliStar itself.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on July 20, 2010, 11:47:34 AM
This morning, I've noticed that the animation of the radar on my IntelliStar has been very jumpy. I don't know if it's a problem with the actual radar data or the IntelliStar itself.

It's been that way here in Topeka, too. I thought maybe it was just the showers and storms moving a lot faster than the radar sites were updating but I guess not.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 20, 2010, 12:39:04 PM
Has anyone noticed that the SD Satellite LF got a minor update this morning? The severe weather/radar maps are more darker now as is the radar maps.
Weather Channel SD Satellite Local Forecast Update- 7/20/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEWV0n469Dk#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 20, 2010, 12:48:09 PM
Has anyone noticed that the SD Satellite LF got a minor update this morning? The severe weather/radar maps are more darker now as is the radar maps.
Weather Channel SD Satellite Local Forecast Update- 7/20/10 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEWV0n469Dk#[/url])

As I had wondered, the new basemaps have migrated their way over the the SD SatLF. Thanks for the video.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 20, 2010, 01:19:43 PM
Is this pointing the finger to a possible full satellite LF overhaul?

And also, I don't see anything changed with the radar basemaps....  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 20, 2010, 02:01:05 PM
Is this pointing the finger to a possible full satellite LF overhaul?

And also, I don't see anything changed with the radar basemaps....  :no:
It's possible that the Satellite LF could get another update sometime soon, perhaps this is the beginning of a series of updates
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 20, 2010, 02:02:44 PM
The regional forecast/radar basemaps on the sat LF haven't been updated since 2004... they are well overdue for changes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 20, 2010, 02:05:05 PM
The regional forecast/radar basemaps on the sat LF haven't been updated since 2004... they are well overdue for changes.
Their topography was adjusted back in 2008 when the new HD graphics came along and later adjusted in 2009 for the current topography we see now

EDIT see post here https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/general-lf-discussion/msg134637/#msg134637 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/general-lf-discussion/msg134637/#msg134637)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 20, 2010, 02:34:34 PM
Yeah but I don't think anything was changed to the regional forecast maps.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 20, 2010, 08:05:47 PM
I came with my sister for her college orientation, and our hotel has an XL! It is on Coaxial Cable TV in Edinboro, PA (in Erie County). CC site is Erie and forecast site is Edinboro. I'll get a cell phone video later on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 26, 2010, 06:54:01 PM
Ok, so this is what I am doing.

I am going to do a "kindof" LAT48's, but with only 4 clips. And it will be in one clip. And they will be played at the same time! But how? Well, I am looking for 3 other people that recorded the 8:48AM/7:48AM CT LF on July 8, 2010. If you recorded during this time, please send the clip to trevorbirchett@yahoo.com. After I get all of the clips, I will put them into Sony Vegas and crop them where I can fit 4 STAR's on one screen. Then, I will upload the video to YouTube! Thanks SO much!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 28, 2010, 06:51:53 PM
When do you think the new August Playlist will start?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 28, 2010, 07:16:46 PM
When do you think the new August Playlist will start?
Knowing TWC's pattern with changing playlists these days, probably not for another 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 28, 2010, 08:46:57 PM
Yeah maybe the second or third week of august. I know a lot of jazz artists who sent their CDs to twc but they got nothing back from them. Maybe twc hasn't gotten around to assembling the playlist yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 28, 2010, 10:55:53 PM
I'll try calling Brian tomorrow and see whats going on. I have his extension somewhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 28, 2010, 11:47:12 PM
Good luck. I called him but it took me to his answering machine . I heard a music group now does the playlists though
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 30, 2010, 02:29:28 PM
I've been told the August playlist is scheduled to start around the 3rd or 4th.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 30, 2010, 02:34:51 PM
YESSSSS!  :rofl:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 30, 2010, 02:39:39 PM
I wouldn't keep my hopes up. I'd be surprised if they did start it next week, given TWC's pattern with the playlists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 30, 2010, 04:57:45 PM
I've been told the August playlist is scheduled to start around the 3rd or 4th.

I'm not holding my breath TWC has other things to worry about and music isn't even in their thoughts right now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 30, 2010, 05:07:09 PM
I've been told the August playlist is scheduled to start around the 3rd or 4th.
Who told you that?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on July 31, 2010, 12:52:47 AM
I've been told the August playlist is scheduled to start around the 3rd or 4th.
I can confirm I was told this too
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 05, 2010, 12:57:09 PM
Im really considering my parents into getting the TV service through FiOS. Reason being is that recently DirecTV has been problematic to us such as the receiver not powering on even by resetting it and rain fade has been occurring more often as of late :thumbdown:

With FiOS the standard is that you can have up to 3 outlets in your house and we have the employee discount in effect we could probably get its basic HD service for maybe what we payed with DirecTV or lower

What Im worried about is the STAR at the headend here. It serves 5 counties that are about 100 miles in width and almost 200 miles in legnth (Pasco, Pinellas, Hillsborough, Polk, Manatee, and Sarasota). The same WxScan serves those counties and I wonder how the STAR is gonna handle CC. Unlike Comcast and other major cable television providers Verizon in a metro area only has one headend.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 06, 2010, 12:18:46 PM
I wish TWC could make one minor change, bringing back the 2 min flavor during the :18/:48 slots.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on August 06, 2010, 03:22:27 PM
I wish TWC could make one minor change, bringing back the 2 min flavor during the :18/:48 slots.
Yes I do miss those!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on August 10, 2010, 08:23:41 PM
Someone a LOOOOOOOONG time ago asked
Quote
Is it possible to have a Record High Screen and a Record Low Screen on the same day?

Well, it just so happens that on my TWC calendar that gives monthly weather facts that
Quote
On August 11, 1984, Miami had a record high of 96 degrees F and a record low of 70 degrees F on the same day, due to a thunderstorm.

Well, it can happen, but you wouldn't see a Record Temperature Screen back then.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 10, 2010, 10:52:56 PM
Someone a LOOOOOOOONG time ago asked
Quote
Is it possible to have a Record High Screen and a Record Low Screen on the same day?

Well, it just so happens that on my TWC calendar that gives monthly weather facts that
Quote
On August 11, 1984, Miami had a record high of 96 degrees F and a record low of 70 degrees F on the same day, due to a thunderstorm.

Well, it can happen, but you wouldn't see a Record Temperature Screen back then.  :P

Are you sure?  The WeatherStar I and WeatherStar II local forecasts way back in the day actually had some "narrative" screens that got dropped in the mid-1980s (around 1986), so it's quite possible that something like that could have been on the local forecast!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 28, 2010, 01:51:19 PM
A friend of mine has received confirmation that the September playlist will start on August 31st.

to avoid any speculation this is only from a source, the date is subject to change
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 28, 2010, 05:38:57 PM
Guys, please wait until either the playlist starts or is released before posting a new playlist topic.  Martin made it very clear that he didn't like how you all were doing this earlier last month:

Ive asked before that topics regarding playlists not be started until after the playlist starts or a playlist has been released
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 28, 2010, 05:54:32 PM
Guys, please wait until either the playlist starts or is released before posting a new playlist topic.  Martin made it very clear that he didn't like how you all were doing this earlier last month:

Ive asked before that topics regarding playlists not be started until after the playlist starts or a playlist has been released
I thought this was discussed already lol..In regards to the August playlist, that really did start on the 3rd of August.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 28, 2010, 06:19:17 PM
As molly said this was discussed and I was told i can post this information so i don't see what the problem is? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 28, 2010, 06:26:28 PM
Well its good to know that it looks like TWC is trying to put out monthly playlists again :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 29, 2010, 11:37:49 AM
The LF cuings are off again like they were in June

TWC DirecTV Local Forecast 8/29/2010 @ 10:58 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfzXk84GDO0#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 29, 2010, 03:01:33 PM
Region-Wide Outage in SE MA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 29, 2010, 03:12:24 PM
Region-Wide Outage in SE MA

Neat! I have never seen the N/A icon used before ever, I guess it's good to see how it looks on a STAR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 29, 2010, 03:36:13 PM
Here's the CC screen

Narration was "Currently The Temperature Is 92 Degrees."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 29, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
Must be a new addition to the set. I'm guessing the previous two icon sets didn't have an N/A icon for the intellistars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 29, 2010, 03:48:31 PM
Very interesting! Did you take a video clip too, Alex?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 29, 2010, 03:49:27 PM
Very interesting! Did you take a video clip too, Alex?

I will upload both when time permits.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 29, 2010, 06:06:32 PM
Must be a new addition to the set. I'm guessing the previous two icon sets didn't have an N/A icon for the intellistars.

That's strange...I know the previous two icon sets had a N/A icon, and it was used a lot on weather.com. Nice to finally see it on an IS, though. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 30, 2010, 10:25:52 AM
here's the videos promised

Intellistar Not Available Icon N/A part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbgTYAmXNws#)

Intellistar Not Available Icon N/A part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBAU3x0nvj4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on August 30, 2010, 10:41:01 AM
here's the videos promised

Intellistar Not Available Icon N/A part 1 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbgTYAmXNws#[/url])

Intellistar Not Available Icon N/A part 2 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBAU3x0nvj4#[/url])
mmmmm, reminds me of pre 10/23/2007...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 30, 2010, 04:27:06 PM
Seems like Ozone Action Day Finally made it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 31, 2010, 08:17:44 PM
A friend of mine has received confirmation that the September playlist will start on August 31st.

to avoid any speculation this is only from a source, the date is subject to change
So much for that. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 01, 2010, 11:09:05 AM
A friend of mine has received confirmation that the September playlist will start on August 31st.

to avoid any speculation this is only from a source, the date is subject to change
So much for that. :P

Hopefully a better confirmation soon, especially with Earl coming though it might have something to do with that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 01, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
I think this playlist will continue at least another couple weeks, if not into early October.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 01, 2010, 06:42:04 PM
I think this playlist will continue at least another couple weeks, if not into early October.
yeah same, given all the songs in this list. I expect the list to change either in early october or in later September, somewhere around after the 20th.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 02, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
It's now September... meaning the school day forecast is back in the Intellistar :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 03, 2010, 08:33:55 PM
Looks like they are playing the Flick and a Forecast LF music tonight, despite long-form being preempted.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 03, 2010, 09:23:50 PM
Looks like they are playing the Flick and a Forecast LF music tonight, despite long-form being preempted.

Um, I thought FaaF was cancelled? :blink: And what kind of special music do they used for that, anyway?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 03, 2010, 10:15:46 PM
They still play the LF production music from FAAF on Friday nights during long-form though.

"Flick And A Forecast Theme" By The Weather Channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzsxVhlVuOg#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 03, 2010, 10:16:58 PM
It happened again today...

(http://j.imagehost.org/0087/snapshot20100903215426.jpg)

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on September 04, 2010, 09:23:28 AM
Local on the 8s have resumed as of 9am from what I'm seeing. LFs at 9:08, 9:18am so far, so...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on September 05, 2010, 03:00:05 AM
Looks like they are playing the Flick and a Forecast LF music tonight, despite long-form being preempted.

Um, I thought FaaF was cancelled?
It was never actually cancelled. I don't know how that rumor started
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 05, 2010, 03:43:28 PM
Please don't disappoint us... :)

Honestly, I haven't heard a single compliment about "Flick and a Forecast."  It just doesn't belong on The Weather Channel.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 05, 2010, 09:42:54 PM
Please don't disappoint us... :)

Honestly, I haven't heard a single compliment about "Flick and a Forecast."  It just doesn't belong on The Weather Channel.

Especially when FAAF is airing in the midst of a tornado, without preempting.  :hammer:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on September 07, 2010, 12:31:16 PM
Please don't disappoint us... :)

Honestly, I haven't heard a single compliment about "Flick and a Forecast."  It just doesn't belong on The Weather Channel.

Especially when FAAF is airing in the midst of a tornado, without preempting.  :hammer:
They did continue on the dual feed but I admit thats weak
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 08, 2010, 03:28:20 PM
One of the only reasons i could think that this August Playlist is continuing into September is because of the NFL Opener between the Saints and the Vikings "Magnificent Eleven" just like how "Olympic Spirit" was used until the Olympics ended.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on September 10, 2010, 02:59:45 AM
One of the only reasons i could think that this August Playlist is continuing into September is because of the NFL Opener between the Saints and the Vikings "Magnificent Eleven" just like how "Olympic Spirit" was used until the Olympics ended.
Huh?  :blink: :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 10, 2010, 06:12:14 AM
One of the only reasons i could think that this August Playlist is continuing into September is because of the NFL Opener between the Saints and the Vikings "Magnificent Eleven" just like how "Olympic Spirit" was used until the Olympics ended.
I doubt it, TWC is just continuing with the 1.5-2 month playlist span.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on September 10, 2010, 07:35:59 AM
random question, but is it only me thats noticed that the tall ldl hasnt been used since before Earl ?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on September 10, 2010, 08:57:00 AM
random question, but is it only me thats noticed that the tall ldl hasnt been used since before Earl ?
No.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on September 20, 2010, 04:55:04 PM
Scary weather in Kittanning and Oil City tonight! :P
(taken from my dorm room)

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 20, 2010, 05:32:39 PM
lol, now that would be even more ironic during Halloween!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on September 21, 2010, 09:24:20 PM
Scary weather in Kittanning and Oil City tonight! :P
(taken from my dorm room)


No moon for you!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 21, 2010, 09:40:48 PM
Scary weather in Kittanning and Oil City tonight! :P
(taken from my dorm room)


No moon for you!
Are you the moon nazi? :rofl2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 22, 2010, 04:07:39 PM
Scary weather in Kittanning and Oil City tonight! :P
(taken from my dorm room)
Is the moon back?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 25, 2010, 11:13:14 AM
Today marks the 2-year anniversary of the DirecTV LF premiering
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 25, 2010, 11:26:05 AM
Today marks the 2-year anniversary of the DirecTV LF premiering
And Wednesday will mark one year since the HD DirecTV LF premiered. Kinda ironic, because it came out the day after I left Vermont and the hotel there had DirecTV HD. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 25, 2010, 11:44:18 AM
Today marks the 2-year anniversary of the DirecTV LF premiering
And Wednesday will mark one year since the HD DirecTV LF premiered. Kinda ironic, because it came out the day after I left Vermont and the hotel there had DirecTV HD. :P
Speaking of which, is it just me, or is the DirecTV LF still using the '06-'10 icons, and not cueing all the time? That happens to both of the receivers in my house.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 25, 2010, 11:45:24 AM
Yes, I think we are all well aware the DTV LF still uses the old icons. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 25, 2010, 11:45:57 AM
Speaking of which, is it just me, or is the DirecTV LF still using the '06-'10 icons, and not cueing all the time? That happens to both of the receivers in my house.

Last I checked (the end of May), the DirecTV local forecast does use the older icon set.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 25, 2010, 12:09:34 PM
Today marks the 2-year anniversary of the DirecTV LF premiering
And Wednesday will mark one year since the HD DirecTV LF premiered. Kinda ironic, because it came out the day after I left Vermont and the hotel there had DirecTV HD. :P
Speaking of which, is it just me, or is the DirecTV LF still using the '06-'10 icons, and not cueing all the time? That happens to both of the receivers in my house.
The icons will likely not change and as for not cuing all the time dont press exit on the remote  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 25, 2010, 12:13:46 PM
Today marks the 2-year anniversary of the DirecTV LF premiering
And Wednesday will mark one year since the HD DirecTV LF premiered. Kinda ironic, because it came out the day after I left Vermont and the hotel there had DirecTV HD. :P
Speaking of which, is it just me, or is the DirecTV LF still using the '06-'10 icons, and not cueing all the time? That happens to both of the receivers in my house.
The icons will likely not change and as for not cuing all the time dont press exit on the remote  ;)
I don't press exit. The LF just doesn't cue most of the time.

This is my 200th post! :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 25, 2010, 12:20:20 PM
Do you leave your box on continuously? I know the LF stops showing after 24 hours of leaving your box on and tuned to TWC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 25, 2010, 12:43:10 PM
Do you leave your box on continuously? I know the LF stops showing after 24 hours of leaving your box on and tuned to TWC.
No, I turn it off when no one's watching TV. I don't always leave the TV on TWC because my family watches other stuff.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 25, 2010, 05:30:39 PM
Is HiRAD out? My Directv lf just displayed temporarily unavailable
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 25, 2010, 06:15:24 PM
IDK let me turn on and see if I am getting Temporarily Unavailable....


-Welcome to the 200's on the LF Discussion!-
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 25, 2010, 06:20:58 PM
Well, I missed the :18 LF, but I will catch the next one.

-EDIT: I think it's just your local app, because mine isn't showing TU-
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 25, 2010, 06:31:30 PM
Well, I missed the :18 LF, but I will catch the next one.

-EDIT: I think it's just your local app, because mine isn't showing TU-
Well maybe because it occurred 50 minutes prior to your post  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 25, 2010, 06:38:18 PM
I'm just sayin' because the last time mine said TU it wasn't seen on anyone elses.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 25, 2010, 07:56:36 PM
i noticed Traffic hasn't been working since 1pm on the Istar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 25, 2010, 07:58:06 PM
This is my 200th post! :dance:

Do members really have to post their post counts if everyone can see it on the left side? it becomes very annoying.

Some people take pride in their post counts and enjoy celebrating milestones.  I know I do, and, obviously, I'm not alone.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on September 25, 2010, 08:11:35 PM
Hey, can we please get back on topic? :club:  TWC and Apple 4eva, you're going to be watched if you can't stay on topic with consistency around here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 25, 2010, 08:13:08 PM
Thanks Patrick  :biggrin:

Btw as for the HiRAD it was only at 5:28 it was tu
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on September 25, 2010, 09:49:58 PM
This is my 200th post! :dance:

Do members really have to post their post counts if everyone can see it on the left side? it becomes very annoying.

Some people take pride in their post counts and enjoy celebrating milestones.  I know I do, and, obviously, I'm not alone.
An occasional post in celebration of a posting milestone is certainly acceptable. TWC and Apple 4eva did no harm and made sure to include his message with something relevant to the topic. Those who were in the wrong were the ones commenting on if it was acceptable or now. Report a post if you think it goes against forum policy or should be removed.

Back to the discussion, traffic has been working for me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 25, 2010, 11:48:31 PM
Sorry for causing any trouble, i've removed my previous posts to avoid any conflicts

and traffic has been temporarily unavailable and still hasn't been showing since 1pm, must be my headend
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 26, 2010, 09:54:39 AM
Did they remove or temporarily disable the traffic products from the :28/:58 and :08/:38 flavors? I've noticed that the local forecast has been ending on the 7 day. I haven't seen the :48 K flavor yet, so I don't know if it's still showing on there.

EDIT: Nevermind, it's back.  :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 26, 2010, 12:58:06 PM
Did they remove or temporarily disable the traffic products from the :28/:58 and :08/:38 flavors? I've noticed that the local forecast has been ending on the 7 day. I haven't seen the :48 K flavor yet, so I don't know if it's still showing on there.

It might be a test for the new programming schedule?

The K is showing Marine after the Today's Forecast Metro page

I really like this idea TWC has been doing since yesterday @ 1pm EDT with the Traffic pages, maybe it's for the better because more "Weather Related" screens are being shown.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 26, 2010, 01:09:20 PM
Did they remove or temporarily disable the traffic products from the :28/:58 and :08/:38 flavors? I've noticed that the local forecast has been ending on the 7 day. I haven't seen the :48 K flavor yet, so I don't know if it's still showing on there.

It might be a test for the new programming schedule?

The K is showing Marine after the Today's Forecast Metro page

I really like this idea TWC has been doing since yesterday @ 1pm EDT with the Traffic pages, maybe it's for the better because more "Weather Related" screens are being shown.

It is a good thing, especially on a day like today where as much as 3-6 inches of rain is expected.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 29, 2010, 04:41:17 PM
Now that Day Planner runs through 5 PM ET, the SD Satellite LF now shows the regional forecast maps every :28 and :58 LF (instead of the 3-day forecast) through 5 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 08, 2010, 05:55:22 PM
A year ago today, the best playlist since the 7/09 format changes debuted. Man did I love that playlist. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on October 08, 2010, 08:46:57 PM
A year ago today, the best playlist since the 7/09 format changes debuted. Man did I love that playlist. :hmm:

I agree. From Morning through Overnight, that was a very good playlist. Since the format changes, there have really been only a few consistently good playlists:  Oct/Nov 09, Nov/Dec 09, Mar/Apr 10, and Aug/Sept 10.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 23, 2010, 02:23:34 AM
Three years ago today, version 2.0 of the IntelliStar rolled out nationwide.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on October 23, 2010, 09:52:39 AM
Three years ago today, version 2.0 of the IntelliStar rolled out nationwide.
I remember. Also, around 10/26/07, version 2 of IS went back to v1.5 IS. That error only lasted a day. I don't know if it was just on my STAR or if it was a national issue.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 25, 2010, 10:41:24 AM
Anyone else's LF out?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 25, 2010, 03:45:16 PM
3 seconds after "The Week Ahead" Narration @ 3:28pm EDT the LF Failed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on October 30, 2010, 05:36:25 AM
Remember how I was ranting about the DirecTV LF not cueing? Well, I found the solution. If a little window pops up saying, "GET LOCAL WEATHER NOW" or something like that, if you want to see the LF app, don't respond to those little windows.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 31, 2010, 09:32:07 AM
Anyone know if TWC is going to do a Halloween playlist today like they did last Halloween or was that a one time thing?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 31, 2010, 09:43:57 AM
Anyone know if TWC is going to do a Halloween playlist today like they did last Halloween or was that a one time thing?

i would be surprised if they start a mini list during the long form hours.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 10, 2010, 02:25:51 PM
Since The Weather Channel lHDl Discussion thread is locked i'll post it here

Would this be a suitable LF Flavor if TWC were to give it a try?

HD Satellite Forecast Flavor Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0982FKKB16s#ws)

It would make sense for the Satellite viewers so the end of the app could match up the current Flavor guide used for the SD Satellite.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 15, 2010, 08:12:11 PM
Some playlist issues this morning.

Trammell during 6am hour of WUWA and the first 3 LFs of 10am hour.

Push by Jackiem Joyner played at 10:28am, Mr. Miller at 10:38, and Lily was Here at 10:48.

Also, In The Light by DC Talk played at 11:18am today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 17, 2010, 10:50:15 PM
Finally i found a video of the FiOS STAR here!  :biggrin: the radar looks horrible IMO :wacko:

Indiana Jones on the Weather Channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvgEMdNuXh8#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on November 18, 2010, 02:27:06 AM
YouTube member MrDaniel789 (http://www.youtube.com/user/MrDaniel789#g/u) has posted a ton of Satellite LF videos from 1999 through 2004. Some of them are certainly worth a watch just due to the rarity of Satellite LF footage from that era.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 23, 2010, 08:09:51 PM
WeatherSTAR XL 11/23/10 648PM - Rain turning to snow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC1NJfgUTXs#)

Courtesy Clayton.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 23, 2010, 08:32:17 PM
That icon so good i gave this a shot  :P

(http://zach.dyndns-work.com:53205/art/rain to snow.gif)

its a gif so quality is horrible
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 23, 2010, 10:54:05 PM
I see that a bunch of you already can't wait for the mixed precipitation narrations and icons to reappear on the LF. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 23, 2010, 11:00:57 PM
I see that a bunch of you already can't wait for the mixed precipitation narrations and icons to reappear on the LF. :P
Its not that but just that the icon on the extended LF has never been seen before  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 23, 2010, 11:10:27 PM
I see that a bunch of you already can't wait for the mixed precipitation narrations and icons to reappear on the LF. :P
Its not that but just that the icon on the extended LF has never been seen before  :no:

On the extended lf? Heck I never saw it period.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on November 28, 2010, 07:38:07 PM
I finally got to see York's IntelliStar today (22607). The configuration is very similar to Hanover's IntelliStar (22608). The regional and metro maps are identical; the Regional Radar is slightly different. The CC location is York, and the forecast title is York Metro. I'll attempt to get a video or some screenshots at some point in the future.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 08, 2010, 12:07:58 PM
New Flavor Lineup? All Flavors now use 48hr

New Flavor? :08/38/58 Segment (With Metro Radar) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5lXiMxOpPY#)

New Flavor? :18 (With Metro Radar) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vsJBOCiLQ#)

New Flavor? :48 (With Metro Radar) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uHNNjE9ic#)

New Flavor? :18 Segment (Without Metro Radar) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekamv2rNe6M#)

New Flavor? :08/38/58 Segment (Without Metro Radar) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbD1V16vNY#)

New Flavor? :48 Segment (Without Metro Radar) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q13F6VKxiQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 08, 2010, 12:56:42 PM
New Flavor Lineup?

New Flavor? :08/38/58 Segment (With Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5lXiMxOpPY#[/url])

New Flavor? :18 (With Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vsJBOCiLQ#[/url])

New Flavor? :48 (With Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uHNNjE9ic#[/url])

New Flavor? :18 Segment (Without Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekamv2rNe6M#[/url])

New Flavor? :08/38/58 Segment (Without Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbD1V16vNY#[/url])

New Flavor? :48 Segment (Without Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q13F6VKxiQ#[/url])

lol and you were just wanting a new intellistar flavor the other day..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 08, 2010, 03:47:33 PM
New Flavor Lineup?

New Flavor? :08/38/58 Segment (With Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5lXiMxOpPY#[/url])

New Flavor? :18 (With Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vsJBOCiLQ#[/url])

New Flavor? :48 (With Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5uHNNjE9ic#[/url])

New Flavor? :18 Segment (Without Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekamv2rNe6M#[/url])

New Flavor? :08/38/58 Segment (Without Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbD1V16vNY#[/url])

New Flavor? :48 Segment (Without Metro Radar) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q13F6VKxiQ#[/url])

lol and you were just wanting a new intellistar flavor the other day..


I was gonna post about this yesterday, but I forgot. I like it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 08, 2010, 06:36:25 PM
I was gonna post about this yesterday, but I forgot. I like it.

You should upload clips too if you can?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 08, 2010, 10:09:59 PM
I was gonna post about this yesterday, but I forgot. I like it.


You should upload clips too if you can?


Excuse the skipping in the first clip, my TV tuner was having one of it's days tonight. Also is the traffic products being removed temporary or for good? Because I would be happy if they were gone for good, it gives the other forecast products more attention.  :yes:

Old Man Winter About to Give the South The Cold Finger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOminCvUpqo#)





Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 08, 2010, 10:44:05 PM
I'm pretty sure they are gone for good. I also notice the traffic segments on Weatherscan are gone as of last week. :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 08, 2010, 10:50:07 PM
I'm pretty sure they are gone for good. I also notice the traffic segments on Weatherscan are gone as of last week. :happy:

I think its for good also, The Traffic Logo was removed as of 1:48pm EST
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 08, 2010, 11:38:55 PM
TWC did not renew it's contract with Traffic Pulse, hence why all traffic products have bene pulled from tv, web, and mobile. There is a possibility TWC could find a new provider sometime next year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 09, 2010, 12:00:26 AM
There is a possibility TWC could find a new provider sometime next year.


http://www.sigalert.com/Map.asp (http://www.sigalert.com/Map.asp) ?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 09, 2010, 12:42:45 AM
I have no idea. There's a lot of providers out there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 09, 2010, 05:11:43 AM
Interesting that they didnt renew.. does that mean the flow maps might return if they find someone else for a source?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 09, 2010, 06:37:24 AM
TWC did not renew it's contract with Traffic Pulse, hence why all traffic products have bene pulled from tv, web, and mobile. There is a possibility TWC could find a new provider sometime next year.
I'm not that surprised... I knew TWC would stop using traffic.com eventually after the traffic overview problems and the removal of traffic on the LDL.

Interesting that they didnt renew.. does that mean the flow maps might return if they find someone else for a source?
I'd imagine that would take awhile to implement... the traffic pulse overview map was hard enough as it is. Besides, I believe Tyler or Martin said the overview map data was often outdated.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on December 09, 2010, 07:21:41 AM
TWC did not renew it's contract with Traffic Pulse, hence why all traffic products have bene pulled from tv, web, and mobile. There is a possibility TWC could find a new provider sometime next year.

Good riddance.  The only thing I liked less about the traffic on the local forecast is when the local forecast began with the traffic products.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on December 09, 2010, 08:57:05 AM
TWC did not renew it's contract with Traffic Pulse, hence why all traffic products have bene pulled from tv, web, and mobile. There is a possibility TWC could find a new provider sometime next year.

Good riddance.  The only thing I liked less about the traffic on the local forecast is when the local forecast began with the traffic products.
That was pretty weird and dumb. I saw that on the IS in Columbus. It's confusing, because the last time I saw the IS before then (2 years ago), all flavors started with the CC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 09, 2010, 10:48:13 PM
Is the School Day Weather/Outdoor Activity gone too? I don't see it at :48 during daytime or at :58 during other dayparts anymore, even without traffic now. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 09, 2010, 11:43:36 PM
There is a possibility TWC could find a new provider sometime next year.


[url]http://www.sigalert.com/Map.asp[/url] ([url]http://www.sigalert.com/Map.asp[/url]) ?

On second thought, this may not surprise me. TWC already has a partnership with Westwood One/Metro Networks, the parent company of sigalert.com. We shall see...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 10, 2010, 05:08:41 PM
my local NBC station WHDH-TV (http://www1.whdh.com/traffic/) and SmarTraveler (http://www.smartraveler.com/traffic.asp?market=Providence&zone=Providence-Warwick-Pawtucket) use the SigAlert based maps and Incidents/Speeds so i provided the link wondering if TWC might incorporate the same thing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 10, 2010, 07:02:53 PM
Just a heads up... I received a warning/strike from YouTube for having Walking Through by Kaya Project, which is affiliated with the company Love Cat Music. So I advise those who have this song up to remove it to avoid a warning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 10, 2010, 07:32:27 PM
Just a heads up... I received a warning/strike from YouTube for having Walking Through by Kaya Project, which is affiliated with the company Love Cat Music. So I advise those who have this song up to remove it to avoid a warning.

Thanks for informing us, I couldn't remember if I had a video of it up, but I checked and deleted it. I already have 1 strike I don't need another one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on December 10, 2010, 08:12:36 PM
Does Verizon FiOS does the same as most cable headends?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 11, 2010, 10:06:43 AM
It appears that there's always a 48 hour local forecast no matter what now, even if there is precipitation. Is this true?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 11, 2010, 12:02:30 PM
It appears that there's always a 48 hour local forecast no matter what now, even if there is precipitation. Is this true?

Yep they've been showing since the flavor change
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 11, 2010, 03:52:50 PM
I will try to see if i can confirm this but Im sure that with traffic being gone for now that 24629 might actually be displaying a regional map! :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 11, 2010, 06:42:37 PM
Just to do something different, I'm thinking of doing a timelapse video of the storm moving across the country now using the IntelliStar similar to the video below except it'll include local/regional obs and the radar and that's it so each forecast clip wouldn't be any longer than maybe 40 secs. It's also only going to include conditions that are updated so it won't be every forecast from now until tomorrow night, I'm not that crazy.  :P This video would only be to show the storm evolving over our region the next 24 hours. Would anyone be interested in seeing it if I do it?

Local Conditions for July 23-24, 2008 /w narration and original music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SCvx9YM5QA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 11, 2010, 07:15:00 PM
Does Verizon FiOS does the same as most cable headends?
I'm not sure I understand your question...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on December 11, 2010, 09:02:35 PM
WS XL showing Rain & Freezing Rain as Current Conditions

http://www.youtube.com/v/42--oEkfudM
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on December 12, 2010, 12:04:46 AM
WS XL showing Rain & Freezing Rain as Current Conditions

Interesting narration. Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 12, 2010, 11:21:09 AM
36hr Local Forecast is appearing while the Weather Bulletins Page is present.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 12, 2010, 11:28:40 AM
These new flavors seem reverted to what it was in early 2009, but does the bulletins page still show first if active?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 12, 2010, 11:35:54 AM
These new flavors seem reverted to what it was in early 2009, but does the bulletins page still show first if active?

Yep it does.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 12, 2010, 11:48:10 AM
These new flavors seem reverted to what it was in early 2009, but does the bulletins page still show first if active?
No it's still a little different. The 8-cities never aired at :28/:58, neither did the air quality or getaway (the school day and metro forecast showed instead). As well, there wasn't an almanac at :18/:48 or the one minute flavors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 12, 2010, 12:13:20 PM
On second thought, this may not surprise me. TWC already has a partnership with Westwood One/Metro Networks, the parent company of sigalert.com. We shall see...

Please let us know as soon as you hear anything!

hopefully things get interesting soon
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on December 12, 2010, 06:43:18 PM
I like these "new" or "old" flavors. It looks like they were changed with the ending of the Traffic segment.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 12, 2010, 06:48:20 PM
I like these "new" or "old" flavors. It looks like they were changed with the ending of the Traffic segment.
Me too, it's nice to see the daypart and regional maps again (rarely showed here before with traffic). :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on December 12, 2010, 08:49:19 PM
Here's some more XL clips for your enjoyment. One features Heavy Snow as the current conditions, the other Blowing Snow.


http://www.youtube.com/v/WH1-N-_g5P0

http://www.youtube.com/v/WM3GU2gby5E
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on December 13, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
Here's some more XL clips for your enjoyment. One features Heavy Snow as the current conditions, the other Blowing Snow.


[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/WH1-N-_g5P0[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/WM3GU2gby5E[/url]

I love those heavy snow and blowing snow icons. Thanks for sharing! :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on December 13, 2010, 10:55:02 AM
Here's some more XL clips for your enjoyment. One features Heavy Snow as the current conditions, the other Blowing Snow.


[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/WH1-N-_g5P0[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/WM3GU2gby5E[/url]
You're lucky to still have the XL. :yes: You should enjoy it while it lasts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jimifan98 on December 13, 2010, 06:48:51 PM
Hello everyone @ TWC Today !  This is Mark Krurnowski writing to say thank you for your interest in my music that has been used during Local on the 8's over the past few years.  I wanted to let you all know that I've recently released a CD entitled "Olive Fingers" which contains 18 tracks.  Some of the tunes have been used on the Weather Channel and some are brand new.  The CD is in the process of being added to iTunes and also features Joy to the World which is on current holiday playlist on W.C.   You can check out more @ www.myspace.com/markkrurnowski (http://www.myspace.com/markkrurnowski) .  Cheers !  - mark k.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 13, 2010, 07:06:17 PM
Hello everyone @ TWC Today !  This is Mark Krurnowski writing to say thank you for your interest in my music that has been used during Local on the 8's over the past few years.  I wanted to let you all know that I've recently released a CD entitled "Olive Fingers" which contains 18 tracks.  Some of the tunes have been used on the Weather Channel and some are brand new.  The CD is in the process of being added to iTunes and also features Joy to the World which is on current holiday playlist on W.C.   You can check out more @ [url=http://www.myspace.com/markkrurnowski]www.myspace.com/markkrurnowski[/url] ([url]http://www.myspace.com/markkrurnowski[/url]) .  Cheers !  - mark k.

Thanks for stopping by Mark! and excellent job with your rendition of Joy to the World being featured on TWC this year!!  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 13, 2010, 08:24:10 PM
Hello everyone @ TWC Today !  This is Mark Krurnowski writing to say thank you for your interest in my music that has been used during Local on the 8's over the past few years.  I wanted to let you all know that I've recently released a CD entitled "Olive Fingers" which contains 18 tracks.  Some of the tunes have been used on the Weather Channel and some are brand new.  The CD is in the process of being added to iTunes and also features Joy to the World which is on current holiday playlist on W.C.   You can check out more @ [url=http://www.myspace.com/markkrurnowski]www.myspace.com/markkrurnowski[/url] ([url]http://www.myspace.com/markkrurnowski[/url]) .  Cheers !  - mark k.

thanks for letting us know! :) love your stuff
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on December 14, 2010, 11:35:42 PM
When the Weather Bulletins page became the first screen still, they skipped to the Local Doppler Radar instead of after seeing the Regional Doppler Radar directly following the Front Page Current Conditions screen during the 1-minute flavors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 17, 2010, 08:29:41 PM
My IntelliStar's radar was temporarily unavailable at 8:28 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on December 17, 2010, 09:50:39 PM
Happened to catch the Lexington Radar screen on Silicondust:

(http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/59/snapshot_24343659.jpg)

Looks like the LDL has Lexington and Winchester, not sure about the 3rd city...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 17, 2010, 10:29:05 PM
My IntelliStar's radar was temporarily unavailable at 8:28 PM ET.
Two hours later, and it's still down.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 17, 2010, 11:29:48 PM
My IntelliStar's radar was temporarily unavailable at 8:28 PM ET.
Two hours later, and it's still down.

Mine is out too, is this a national issue with the IS?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 17, 2010, 11:57:24 PM
My IntelliStar's radar was temporarily unavailable at 8:28 PM ET.
Two hours later, and it's still down.

Mine is out too, is this a national issue with the IS?
It certainly appears to be the case.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 18, 2010, 12:44:28 PM
Mine's not working either, but what's even more strange is that the radar/satellite is working just fine. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 18, 2010, 12:47:33 PM
Weatherscan shows Temporarily Unavailable on the radars too and the Bottom-Left Quadrant (Where the Radar is supposed to be) is Missing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 18, 2010, 02:09:53 PM
My IS's radar came back around 2 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on December 18, 2010, 02:47:53 PM
My IntelliStar's radar came back around 11:30 AM. It still needs to load 3 hours worth of data.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 18, 2010, 11:52:51 PM
Mine's not working either, but what's even more strange is that the radar/satellite is working just fine. :blink:
Makes sense, because they're completely different feeds.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 20, 2010, 01:57:06 PM
Is there a way a cable company could have 2 or more Intellistar Headends on 1 system?

for example (New Bedford) and the adjacent headend (Taunton)

and appear on different channel frequencies? (45 & 47)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 20, 2010, 10:07:04 PM
Is there a way a cable company could have 2 or more Intellistar Headends on 1 system?

for example (New Bedford) and the adjacent headend (Taunton)

and appear on different channel frequencies? (45 & 47)
I'm pretty sure Comcast's Cherry Hill system is like that. There are locations in that area that receive the same Weatherscan and same exact channel lineup and services, but different domestic stars depending on where you are.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 20, 2010, 10:41:09 PM
Is there a way a cable company could have 2 or more Intellistar Headends on 1 system?

for example (New Bedford) and the adjacent headend (Taunton)

and appear on different channel frequencies? (45 & 47)
I'm pretty sure Comcast's Cherry Hill system is like that. There are locations in that area that receive the same Weatherscan and same exact channel lineup and services, but different domestic stars depending on where you are.
Yup, Comcast in Pittsburgh is like that too. They have several different IntelliStars, but only operates two Weatherscans, one for metro Pittsburgh and points south, and several WV and OH counties, and the other for northern counties and a few east central OH counties.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 31, 2010, 06:05:19 PM
I got to see 24629 again today.. As i speculated, regional maps do show, however those replace the metro maps on the 2:00 flavors and metro maps display on 1:30 flavors.. not sure about 1:00 flavors for now

Sorry for reposting, posted in the wrong topic by accident and didnt see it til now :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 02, 2011, 07:40:15 PM
For some odd reason, the DirecTV IS has been displaying the original blue LOT8s bug instead of the standard white one all day today :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 07, 2011, 10:24:32 PM
Question: That phrase "The National Weather Service Has Issued a Weather Bulletin For Our Area" anyone know if it's supposed to say that on certain local forecasts? I've been hearing off and on since they issued the Winter Storm Watch here along with the Wind Advisory.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 07, 2011, 10:44:12 PM
Sometimes if there's more than one advisory, the Istar will cue that narration to save time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 18, 2011, 10:40:17 AM
Ever since i got my HD pvr ive noticed this but for anyone with TWC HD, have you ever noticed how the thunderstorm forecast/precip forecast banners looked aliased or roughened? I thought it was my tuner at first until i moved my LCD TV to my living room with an HDMI signal going to it (the HD PVR uses component video or for you "techies", YCbCr) and noticed it there :unsure: however the severe weather warnings banner looks fine
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tuez13 on January 18, 2011, 03:02:51 PM
I think they produce the original image larger than what is used and the proportions are changed in the process giving it the pixelated look.  I noticed that back in the day, too.  That would be my guess. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 21, 2011, 10:58:31 PM
Should TWC bring back the 3 Day Outlook? (like the XL uses)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Donovan on January 22, 2011, 01:53:13 AM
Ever since i got my HD pvr ive noticed this but for anyone with TWC HD, have you ever noticed how the thunderstorm forecast/precip forecast banners looked aliased or roughened? I thought it was my tuner at first until i moved my LCD TV to my living room with an HDMI signal going to it (the HD PVR uses component video or for you "techies", YCbCr) and noticed it there :unsure: however the severe weather warnings banner looks fine
I think VIZ does that to the images so they don't slow the system down to much. I've seen other examples of viz and it does something similar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 22, 2011, 12:47:15 PM
Should TWC bring back the 3 Day Outlook? (like the XL uses)

No.  It's simply a relic from the distant past.

The WeatherStar III and before only displayed text.  At first, the extended forecast was written out like the local forecast, but in the 1990s it changed to a 3-day tabular format similar to the WeatherStar 4000.  The WeatherStar 4000 didn't have the resolution necessary to display anything more than a 3-day forecast.  (Like the III, the 4000 also displayed a prose-style extended forecast at the very beginning.)

When the XL came out, it simply carried over many of the details from the 4000, and this included the 3-day extended forecast.  There's really no reason to keep it now.  A 7-day forecast gives you a lot more information (though forecasts aren't perfectly accurate that far out, they at least can give you a general idea of what to expect.)  Showing a 3-day forecast now would not only give you less information, but the only benefit I can see would be to see really large weather icons, if someone's interested in that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 22, 2011, 02:03:14 PM
Even though the 3-day had less info, it read it to you, meaning you would hear more information... but I can understand why TWC removed it anyway.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on January 22, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
These days, a 3-day forecast isn't enough for most of the public.  With so many 7-day to even 15-day forecasts out there, the public wants to see out into the future as far as possible.  So, TWC almost had no choice but to abandon the 3-day forecast to be competitive with everyone else.  I think 7 days is just right for now as forecasts beyond that mark would become as good as throwing darts. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 22, 2011, 02:22:53 PM
I think 7 days is just right for now as forecasts beyond that mark would become as good as throwing darts. :P
I think even beyond 2 days is pushing it :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on January 22, 2011, 02:53:11 PM
I think 7 days is just right for now as forecasts beyond that mark would become as good as throwing darts. :P
I think even beyond 2 days is pushing it :P

Yeah, I find forecasts even overnight can change rapidly. I agree, I think the 7 day should be the only extended forecast product, and that is just right when it comes to accuracy.  Anything beyond that I really don't bother to trust.

So here's the question of the day... I haven't heard the narration phrase "Snowfall rates around one inch" for the wording phrase "Snowfall around one inch" on any Intellistar in years. The exception would be a video that user ajatwister recently uploaded.
Middle Tennessee Snowstorm (2)- Local on the 8s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgEFc-axXmc#)
So why is it that some Intellistars seem to have the phrase, but most don't?

And then I got to thinking about another phrase. My aunt and uncle live in San Clemente, CA (my mom just went to visit them two weeks ago)... and the phrase "Stronger winds in and below canyons and passes" appears on their text forecast a lot.
I recorded an LF with a camera I had when I went there in November 2007... but I lost it when my desktop was reformatted in February 2008. So does anyone know if the Intellistar has that phrase?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 22, 2011, 03:19:41 PM
So here's the question of the day... I haven't heard the narration phrase "Snowfall rates around one inch" for the wording phrase "Snowfall around one inch" on any Intellistar in years. The exception would be a video that user ajatwister recently uploaded.
So why is it that some Intellistars seem to have the phrase, but most don't?
We get the phrase "Snowfall rates around one inch" all the time. All Intellistars have the same phrases, it's just how the forecast is written by TWC.


And then I got to thinking about another phrase. My aunt and uncle live in San Clemente, CA (my mom just went to visit them two weeks ago)... and the phrase "Stronger winds in and below canyons and passes" appears on their text forecast a lot.
I recorded an LF with a camera I had when I went there in November 2007... but I lost it when my desktop was reformatted in February 2008. So does anyone know if the Intellistar has that phrase?
Yes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 22, 2011, 03:28:42 PM
I've also heard "stronger winds near the lake shore" (or somewhere to that extent) before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on January 22, 2011, 08:30:33 PM
I've heard "Cooler near the lakeshore" narration when reading, right between the High/Low temperature, and the wind information.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 22, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
And to think Allen Jackson/Jim Cantore had to record all these. :wacko: (unless these phrases are not narrated...)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Donovan on January 24, 2011, 11:42:57 PM
My area doesn't get the local-localonthe8s forecast, its the national feed. How do you get it or do you have to request it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 25, 2011, 03:57:59 AM
My area doesn't get the local-localonthe8s forecast, its the national feed. How do you get it or do you have to request it?

Are you talking about the standard definition or high definition feed?  Very few high definition feeds are equipped with IntelliStars to receive a local forecast, but the vast majority of standard definition feeds have a Star.

However, this is for cable.  Satellite viewers may or may not have a local forecast generated based on their zip code, but this is a combination of local information and the national feed, and looks quite different than a local forecast generated by a Star at a cable headend.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on January 25, 2011, 12:21:55 PM
Here is another XL I discovered while I was at work. It serves the Tuscola, Arcola, and Sullivan, IL area. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/v/TKvVALQLRZg
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 26, 2011, 01:20:36 PM
Ever since 12:10 Both Weatherscan and Intellistar are showing No Report/Not Currently Available and No Data Available for Current Conditions. and Radar "Temporarily Unavailable"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on January 26, 2011, 01:49:19 PM
post from twc's facebook page:

Quote
We are experiencing weather data outages at this time and are working to correct the problem. We are sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

looks like it's affecting weather.com too.  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 26, 2011, 02:39:00 PM
Here is another XL I discovered while I was at work. It serves the Tuscola, Arcola, and Sullivan, IL area. Enjoy.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/TKvVALQLRZg[/url]

Nice! I noticed that the maps are shifted more towards northern Illionois/Southern Wisconsin.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 26, 2011, 02:44:09 PM
Here is another XL I discovered while I was at work. It serves the Tuscola, Arcola, and Sullivan, IL area. Enjoy.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/TKvVALQLRZg[/url]

Nice! I noticed that the maps are shifted more towards northern Illionois/Southern Wisconsin.

Its the same regional map as his Mattoon XL... :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 26, 2011, 02:46:16 PM
For you non-HD viewers, the HD LF is frozen causing Trammell to come up.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on January 26, 2011, 03:04:48 PM
Local and national LDL gone right now (SD).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 26, 2011, 03:18:32 PM
Here is another XL I discovered while I was at work. It serves the Tuscola, Arcola, and Sullivan, IL area. Enjoy.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/TKvVALQLRZg[/url]

Nice! I noticed that the maps are shifted more towards northern Illionois/Southern Wisconsin.

Its the same regional map as his Mattoon XL... :unsure:

No, look closely. The radar is shifted more towards western Indiana.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 26, 2011, 03:22:49 PM
Could have specified... I thought you meant regional maps.. where do you see Wisconsin though in the radar map? :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 26, 2011, 04:19:34 PM
HD LDL also gone, IS2 has to be affected too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on January 26, 2011, 09:43:48 PM
Well, the national SD LDL is back, but the tab bar is solid yellow instead of the normal gradient.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 27, 2011, 07:10:21 AM
IntelliStar Graphics Failure: Fall River, MA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmF25RvuZKo#)

Heavy Snow with Windy Conditions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dizn8g2VRhU#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on January 27, 2011, 08:02:12 AM
24130 is still running…
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on February 03, 2011, 07:43:26 AM
My 24585 Current Weather Conditions lost my data again today from
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 04, 2011, 05:42:25 PM
My 24585 Current Weather Conditions lost my data again today from


Samething happened to me too. It must of been a national thing with all IS systems.

IntelliStar February 3, 2011 CC Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xfmSXNTryU#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on February 06, 2011, 08:48:24 AM
Hmmm, a :90 second local at :08? Here's the proof, "Frankenstein" plays at 8:08, which is normally a :120 second LF. The video is 2:02 minutes long, but I also recorded a TWC winter weather promo and a few seconds of live programming.

 Blizzard of 2011 Local Forecast - 1/31/11 8:08 PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRYlpcekRms#)

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on February 13, 2011, 03:14:46 AM
Since they did away with that large weatherbar, I sure wish they would turn the XL's black bar back on!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on February 13, 2011, 03:45:37 AM
Since they did away with that large weatherbar, I sure wish they would turn the XL's black bar back on!

It honestly doesn't make any sense for them not to, other than to save some computer programmer a couple of hours' worth of work.

Really, if you don't have an IntelliStar, then The Weather Channel now has precious little to offer in the way of local weather information: no LDL, no local squeezeback... just "Local on the 8s" during live programming and weather advisory scrolls.  And, considering the amount of longform programming now, the lack of the LDLs, especially, and also the squeezebacks, means you'd better hope you live in a city that's covered by whatever the national feed shows.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 19, 2011, 11:20:15 AM
I didn't think to ask this at the time it happened, but are there any IntelliStar units where the almanac data comes from an AFB location? Back in Oct. 2009 when my IntelliStar unit was down after about two days of the Satellite feed, I temporarily got the Marietta IntelliStar, but I thought it was weird that the almanac data came from Hartsfield Int'l Airport. I would have thought it would come from Dobbins AFB since it's located in Marietta.

Atlanta IntelliStar reboots to Marietta IntelliStar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIu2qDWXhO4#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 19, 2011, 12:27:39 PM
They try to stay away from most minor airport hubs like air force bases and naval air stations because they don't keep track of records as far back as international airports do (most of the AFB's and NAS's here only have record data dating back to the 1990's).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 19, 2011, 12:53:19 PM
They try to stay away from most minor airport hubs like air force bases and naval air stations because they don't keep track of records as far back as international airports do (most of the AFB's and NAS's here only have record data dating back to the 1990's).

Oh ok, now it makes sense. Thanks!  :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on February 21, 2011, 06:48:02 PM
Someone uploaded with the now-defunct 3-day Extended Forecast with modified weather icons following The Week Ahead over St. Louis, MO. We all miss the 3-day Extended Forecast, and I wish I'd bring it back on the IntelliStar in the future.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on February 21, 2011, 08:00:35 PM
Someone uploaded with the now-defunct 3-day Extended Forecast with modified weather icons following The Week Ahead over St. Louis, MO. We all miss the 3-day Extended Forecast, and I wish I'd bring it back on the IntelliStar in the future.

But why do you miss it? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 21, 2011, 08:05:49 PM
Someone uploaded with the now-defunct 3-day Extended Forecast with modified weather icons following The Week Ahead over St. Louis, MO. We all miss the 3-day Extended Forecast, and I wish I'd bring it back on the IntelliStar in the future.

But why do you miss it? :dunno:
Because its defunct ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on February 22, 2011, 06:52:38 AM
Someone uploaded with the now-defunct 3-day Extended Forecast with modified weather icons following The Week Ahead over St. Louis, MO. We all miss the 3-day Extended Forecast, and I wish I'd bring it back on the IntelliStar in the future.

But why do you miss it? :dunno:
Because its defunct ;)

So is duck and cover.  Not everything that's defunct needs to be brought back simply because it's defunct.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on March 01, 2011, 07:40:22 AM
My local data has lost again from Central Park, NY occuring on March 1, 2011 at 6:18am.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 01, 2011, 08:58:53 AM
My local data has lost again from Central Park, NY occuring on March 1, 2011 at 6:18am.

it came back as of 7:58am on my end.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on March 06, 2011, 05:22:50 PM
The "WINDY" icon was not worded in any of the Current Conditions products even with the Regional and Metro maps, as well as the LDL. Only Snow and Windy icon and Rain and Windy icon worded in the Regional and Metro maps during the Current Conditions maps. At least, we need the Partly Cloudy and Windy icon, Cloudy and Windy icon, and Sunny and Windy icon on any of the Current Conditions products along with the Regional and Metro maps, as well as the LDL in the future.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 07, 2011, 02:08:03 AM
Saw the rare thundersnow icon this morning during the LF. Unfortunately, by the time the next LF came around, the location was no longer reporting thundersnow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on March 07, 2011, 04:31:36 PM
No music on the second half of the 4:28 PM EST LF.

And then, a black screen for a couple minutes beginning at 4:30 EST.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 09, 2011, 06:07:25 PM
An orange "Winter Weather Message" crawl is running on my IntelliStar. It looks to be the same thing as a Local Snowfall Report crawl.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on March 09, 2011, 06:53:46 PM
My IntelliStar for Central Park, NY has failed to cue at 6:08pm ET, 6:28pm ET and 6:38pm ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 12, 2011, 06:04:31 AM
looks like the HD Sat has integrated the Squeezebar Sky Background.

HD Satellite Local Forecast Update - Squeezebar Background 3/12/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueZqgNTWbzY#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 12, 2011, 06:18:02 AM
looks like the HD Sat has integrated the Squeezebar Sky Background.

HD Satellite Local Forecast Update - Squeezebar Background 3/12/11 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueZqgNTWbzY#[/url])

Looks quite buggy. They need to loose that background for the maps.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on March 12, 2011, 11:42:24 AM
looks like the HD Sat has integrated the Squeezebar Sky Background.

HD Satellite Local Forecast Update - Squeezebar Background 3/12/11 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueZqgNTWbzY#[/url])

Looks quite buggy. They need to loose that background for the maps.
Agreed. The new background just looks weird when used with the maps, but it fits the other screens better.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 12, 2011, 11:50:22 AM
They dont have it now... ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 12, 2011, 12:03:54 PM
They dont have it now... ;)

The reason it's not showing now is because the background failed during the transitions, don't be surprised it if reappears soon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 15, 2011, 03:58:14 PM
xD ...IT'S BACK! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53FhELlNKIU#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 19, 2011, 03:36:07 AM
For those that didn't hear, Mattoon's WeatherSTAR XL crashed :cry3: late Wednesday night (3/16) and was replaced by a WS 4000 unit Thursday Morning. The Area Director of Mediacom made it sound like the 4000 is temporary until they get a replacement unit to replace the XL. We will see..
Until then, enjoy some Weatherstar 4000 clips..

This is when the unit was first initialized and did not have all of the correct info and maps.
http://www.youtube.com/v/igFcIVDAAp8

Current weather info.. (sorry about skipping)
http://www.youtube.com/v/o2kJZ6zYrRU
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on March 19, 2011, 03:26:21 PM
How interesting!  I used to have "nightmares" when our 4000 was replaced with an XL over a decade ago that, for whatever reason, the XL would again be replaced with a 4000!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCDude on March 19, 2011, 08:59:21 PM
For those that didn't hear, Mattoon's WeatherSTAR XL crashed :cry3: late Wednesday night (3/16) and was replaced by a WS 4000 unit Thursday Morning. The Area Director of Mediacom made it sound like the 4000 is temporary until they get a replacement unit to replace the XL. We will see..
How interesting :thinking:. I guess they decided to go with the "ancient" 4000 unit. I assume they don't have the funds for an IntelliStar. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 22, 2011, 02:06:31 PM
Hey the XL for my area is back on! :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on March 22, 2011, 06:11:22 PM
Hmm, IS weren't cuing nationwide from 5:48 to 6:10 EDT this evening.


Hey the XL for my area is back on! :dance:
Nice!

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 25, 2011, 06:42:47 PM
Now that i live in Allentown i wasn't able to see what happened but luckily a friend of mine caught this for me

Intellistar New Bedford, MA Startup (2/4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gorc4AU-S34#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on March 25, 2011, 07:12:06 PM
How interesting!

I had never seen a national map for the "regional" radar before.  I wonder if anyone actually ever sees this under normal circumstances.  The metro forcast map is just hilarious!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 05, 2011, 03:40:51 PM
I wish there was a way the forums could be notified of a playlist start instead of having to email TWC for it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on April 07, 2011, 01:08:15 AM
I wish there was a way the forums could be notified of a playlist start instead of having to email TWC for it.
I don't think we'll ever be able to have that luxury.  I just hope you and the others who love the music don't bombard TWC with too many emails about when the next playlist is coming out every time as they could get annoyed and stop responding altogether.  At least you're able to find out as it stands!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 07, 2011, 07:39:09 AM
I just hope you and the others who love the music don't bombard TWC with too many emails about when the next playlist is coming out every time as they could get annoyed and stop responding altogether.

uh, i was just asking so other members knew about this and i don't bombard them with playlist emails because i stopped in 2009  :whistling2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mr. Rainman on April 07, 2011, 01:37:49 PM
I don't think he was targeting you, bud. Just giving a polite tip to the entire forum.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on April 07, 2011, 02:36:42 PM
I just hope you and the others who love the music don't bombard TWC with too many emails about when the next playlist is coming out every time as they could get annoyed and stop responding altogether.

uh, i was just asking so other members knew about this and i don't bombard them with playlist emails because i stopped in 2009  :whistling2:
That's fine.  I don't know who does the playlist emails these days anyway, so I had to make it all inclusive for everyone in the forum.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on April 11, 2011, 09:35:37 PM
If I were to guess, it'll probably start anytime between the middle of this month and  the beginning of May.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 14, 2011, 11:33:15 AM
Decided to make one

gt1racer's Customized Local Forecast Flavor 4/11/2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAK8oEeULGs#)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on April 14, 2011, 10:04:08 PM
Now that i live in Allentown i wasn't able to see what happened but luckily a friend of mine caught this for me

Intellistar New Bedford, MA Startup (2/4) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gorc4AU-S34#[/url])
Did I just see a NATIONAL map on the Doppler? And LOL, your friend must live in a very crowded city!  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on April 16, 2011, 12:26:42 PM
The Weather Bulletins have two pages on them, but they skipped to the Local Doppler, instead of after seeing the Regional Doppler if precipitation is detected on my IntelliStar during the :28/:58 2-minute Flavors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 18, 2011, 04:37:59 PM
Y'all wanna know something funny? It seems that a new playlist starts whenever Green Is Universal week approaches. The April 09, Nov 09 and April 2010 playlists all started during Green Is Universal week. It gives me a hunch that the Apriil/May playlist may start sometime this week..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 18, 2011, 04:41:33 PM
Y'all wanna know something funny? It seems that a new playlist starts whenever Green Is Universal week approaches. The April 09, Nov 09 and April 2010 playlists all started during Green Is Universal week. It gives me a hunch that the Apriil/May playlist may start sometime this week..
Lets also see if they jack the list with Ryan farish again.. there were plentiful amounts of him in the april/may 2010 list and the April/May 2009 list :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 18, 2011, 04:54:19 PM
Y'all wanna know something funny? It seems that a new playlist starts whenever Green Is Universal week approaches. The April 09, Nov 09 and April 2010 playlists all started during Green Is Universal week. It gives me a hunch that the Apriil/May playlist may start sometime this week..
Lets also see if they jack the list with Ryan farish again.. there were plentiful amounts of him in the april/may 2010 list and the April/May 2009 list :bleh:
Don't care for him anymore..I just wanna hear some 7and5 again...!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 18, 2011, 04:59:29 PM
My hunch is somewhere between the 22nd and the 25th. I don't know why, but I think it will be somewhere in that timeframe.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 18, 2011, 05:02:24 PM
My hunch is anywhere from the 20th to the 25th.

Of course, we all could go on about when we think the new playlist will start and will probably be wrong.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 18, 2011, 08:51:28 PM
Thursday, April 21st. Who's with me?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 18, 2011, 09:33:41 PM
Thursday, April 21st. Who's with me?
That, or Friday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 23, 2011, 10:30:37 AM
Noticed the fios IntelliStar in Pittsburgh has a three-city AQ screen

FiOS LF 4/22/11 8:58 am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuV0cKGrHiw#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on April 23, 2011, 12:38:42 PM
Noticed the fios IntelliStar in Pittsburgh has a three-city AQ screen

FiOS LF 4/22/11 8:58 am ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuV0cKGrHiw#ws[/url])


Cool...thanks for posting! :thumbsup: I thought those were discontinued awhile back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 23, 2011, 01:30:55 PM
Cool...thanks for posting! :thumbsup: I thought those were discontinued awhile back.
The west coast stars still have them, but this is the first one I've seen outside of that region with that product since 2005.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 26, 2011, 04:37:49 PM
It's nearing may and still there is no new playlist >.<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on April 26, 2011, 04:40:01 PM
It's nearing may and still there is no new playlist >.<
At least this playlist's good. I agree however, it's kinda weird that there's no playlist yet.  :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 26, 2011, 05:17:04 PM
It's good but I'm so tired of it :P I want to hear some new music already haha
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on April 26, 2011, 07:49:11 PM
The earliest it'll probably begin in early May. The way how past playlists have gone however, it wouldn't shock me to see it go a couple weeks into May, either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 26, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
The earliest it'll probably begin in early May. The way how past playlists have gone however, it wouldn't shock me to see it go a couple weeks into May, either.

TWC isn't in a rush to update the music, they have other intentions other than LF Music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 28, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
"Searching" by Ryan Farish played at 5:08 PM EDT. It plays during the morning, not primetime. New list?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 28, 2011, 05:13:58 PM
Did it have the same time in?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 28, 2011, 05:15:26 PM
Did it have the same time in?
I think it did, but I'm not totally sure. I didn't expect it to play.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 28, 2011, 05:19:16 PM
"You Don't Know" by Mouth Of Wilson plays at 5:18 PM EDT...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 28, 2011, 05:19:41 PM
WTF... the morning list is playing  :blink:  well its not like 2 of the songs would change anyways :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 28, 2011, 05:29:05 PM
At 5:28 PM EDT, "Alma de Caballo" by Lino aired. Back to normal.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 28, 2011, 05:29:51 PM
As of 5:28 PM EDT, March/April 2011 Primetime music is airing like normal.
Alma de Caballo by Lino..seems like a random fluke to me, unless they're trying to transition in a new playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 28, 2011, 05:30:20 PM
The HD LF faded in late...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 28, 2011, 05:35:14 PM
As of 5:28 PM EDT, March/April 2011 Primetime music is airing like normal.
Alma de Caballo by Lino..seems like a random fluke to me, unless they're trying to transition in a new playlist.
That's what I was thinking... Well, it looks like it failed this time... if they were even switching to the May list.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on April 28, 2011, 05:42:16 PM
As of 5:28 PM EDT, March/April 2011 Primetime music is airing like normal.
Alma de Caballo by Lino..seems like a random fluke to me, unless they're trying to transition in a new playlist.
That's what I was thinking... Well, it looks like it failed this time... if they were even switching to the May list.
Primetime songs playing now... They played Hyperbolicsyllabicesquedalymistic by Isaac Hayes at 5:38 PM EDT and Terminal Frost by Pink Floyd at 5:48 PM EDT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 28, 2011, 06:09:10 PM
Searching :08
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on April 28, 2011, 06:09:46 PM
"Searching" by Ryan Farish played at 5:08 PM EDT. It plays during the morning, not primetime. New list?  :unsure:
Played again at 6:08 PM.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on April 28, 2011, 06:10:47 PM
I think they have just shuffled the songs up from April's lists up to make the May list.. lol
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 28, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
I think they have just shuffled the songs up from April's lists up to make the May list.. lol
Remember what happened between 11/3/10 and 11/8/10? this seems to be a similar effect
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on April 28, 2011, 06:13:03 PM
I think they have just shuffled the songs up from April's lists up to make the May list.. lol
Remember what happened between 11/3/10 and 11/8/10? this seems to be a similar effect
They had a rough time transitioning the lists..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 28, 2011, 06:13:44 PM
I think they have just shuffled the songs up from April's lists up to make the May list.. lol
lol, I hope not. :P

But, this is weird. I really do think TWC is trying to switch to the May 2011 Playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 28, 2011, 06:17:58 PM
I heard gut feeling earlier, I don't think there's a new list yet but I won't be surprised if it starts on the usual Fridays like tomorrow
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 28, 2011, 06:30:29 PM
'In The Spotlight" by Ben Kopec aired at 6:28, so I really don't know if the morning or primetime list aired. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 28, 2011, 07:11:32 PM
Searching again
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on April 29, 2011, 03:29:15 PM
They still haven't aired the new playlist, right now (3:28 PM), they're playing "nuGroove".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 29, 2011, 06:53:05 PM
The List will most likely Start in may, the continued timeline between playlists seem to be in the 2 to 2 & 1/2 month range.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on April 29, 2011, 06:58:13 PM
As I said, I think it will either start the first week in May, or it could extend till the middle of the month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 29, 2011, 07:30:00 PM
The List will most likely Start in may, the continued timeline between playlists seem to be in the 2 to 2 & 1/2 month range.
In other words,they're bi-monthly..

The May playlist should start somewhere around this week though
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on May 01, 2011, 10:13:22 AM
Searching again
Searching seems to have joined the primetime list now.  :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 01, 2011, 10:14:39 AM
Searching again
Searching seems to have joined the primetime list now.  :dance:
Did it play last night and the night before, though? ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on May 01, 2011, 10:15:22 AM
Searching again
Searching seems to have joined the primetime list now.  :dance:
Did it play last night and the night before, though? ;)
I think I heard it 2 nights ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 01, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
flukes... they happen.. they get fixed... ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 01, 2011, 07:10:10 PM
O hai You dont know by mouth of wilson at :08  :yawn:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on May 01, 2011, 07:14:11 PM
I have a feeling tomorrow or Tuesday will be the day for the May playlist to start...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on May 02, 2011, 10:30:58 PM
:08 and :38 2-minute satellite LF flavor aired at 10:28 pm.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on May 03, 2011, 06:51:01 AM
"The In Crowd" by Ramsey Lewis Trio aired during WUWA at 6:48 EDT this morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on May 03, 2011, 08:13:37 AM
Yeah, WUWA was playing some instrumentals today.
5:58 am: White Castle Blues by The Smithereens (from last month's morning playlist)
6:48 am: The "In" Crowd by The Ramsey Lewis Trio (mentioned above)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on May 06, 2011, 01:41:23 PM
When Vocal Local Allen Jackson was reading Chance of precip 30%, early years, he narrated a short abbreviated "Chance of precip. 30%", but beginning in the 2005-2006 Winter Season, he now narrates "Chance of precipitation 30%".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 06, 2011, 08:46:02 PM
When Vocal Local Allen Jackson was reading Chance of precip 30%, early years, he narrated a short abbreviated "Chance of precip. 30%", but beginning in the 2005-2006 Winter Season, he now narrates "Chance of precipitation 30%".

He narrates both. It depends how the forecast is written. If it is written precip, it reads precip, and if it is written as precipitation, its read precipitation.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 14, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
Got a clip of 24629 up from today... never seen this flavor before.. (not even in YT videos)  :wacko:
Local Forecast - May 14, 2011 - 12:38 PM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdsQTSPBa6w#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 15, 2011, 02:01:16 PM
IMO, the daypart forecast really needs to be shown more. It only shows regularly at :28 after and there's too much emphasis on the regional maps. It's good to see them, but not on every single forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 16, 2011, 05:04:57 PM
I'm not sure if this is on all IntelliStars or some kind of experiment, but there is another new flavor I saw during the 4pm hour at 4:08 and 4:38, the moon data almanac is being used and the temperature data almanac is being used at :28 and :58. I haven't seen the moon data since June 2009. I actually like the idea of both versions being used.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 16, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
I'm not sure if this is on all IntelliStars or some kind of experiment, but there is another new flavor I saw during the 4pm hour at 4:08 and 4:38, the moon data almanac is being used and the temperature data almanac is being used at :28 and :58. I haven't seen the moon data since June 2009. I actually like the idea of both versions being used.

Very interesting. I remember this idea had been floating around since at least 2006, so it's neat to see if they're going to implement it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 16, 2011, 08:41:01 PM
I'm not sure if this is on all IntelliStars or some kind of experiment, but there is another new flavor I saw during the 4pm hour at 4:08 and 4:38, the moon data almanac is being used and the temperature data almanac is being used at :28 and :58. I haven't seen the moon data since June 2009. I actually like the idea of both versions being used.


Very interesting. I remember this idea had been floating around since at least 2006, so it's neat to see if they're going to implement it.


This is how it's set up on mine: Current Conditions > Regional/Local Doppler Radar > Moon Data Almanac > Metro Forecast > Text Forecast > The Week Ahead

IntelliStar - New K Flavor (5/16/2011) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-WzekIULuE#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 16, 2011, 09:01:07 PM
Philadelphia's FiOS STAR has had it like this since 2008 (since it uses its own custom flavors). Nice to see it's rolling out on other STARs too. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 16, 2011, 09:52:40 PM
Yeah, as Mike said, FiOS STARs have always had this. And as Billy said, the STAR Team talked about this a few years back, but it was never rolled out nationwide. I'll see what I can find out about this.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TV Shows Fan on May 18, 2011, 02:43:40 PM
I'm not sure if this is on all IntelliStars or some kind of experiment, but there is another new flavor I saw during the 4pm hour at 4:08 and 4:38, the moon data almanac is being used and the temperature data almanac is being used at :28 and :58. I haven't seen the moon data since June 2009. I actually like the idea of both versions being used.
My IntelliStar has it like that too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCDude on May 19, 2011, 09:15:18 PM
Pittsburgh, PA IntelliStar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfsEN-37KNU#)
I've noticed that the Air Quality Forecast was changed from one reporting location to three on the Pittsburgh FiOS IntelliStar. I find it interesting that TWC has done something like this. Did anyone else receive this update as well?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: vanhalen1014 on May 19, 2011, 09:19:47 PM
Pittsburgh, PA IntelliStar ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfsEN-37KNU#[/url])
I've noticed that the Air Quality Forecast was changed from one reporting location to three on the Pittsburgh FiOS IntelliStar. I find it interesting that TWC has done something like this. Did anyone else receive this update as well?
Nice catch!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 19, 2011, 10:30:27 PM
Pittsburgh, PA IntelliStar ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfsEN-37KNU#[/url])
I've noticed that the Air Quality Forecast was changed from one reporting location to three on the Pittsburgh FiOS IntelliStar. I find it interesting that TWC has done something like this. Did anyone else receive this update as well?

It's been like this for sometime now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCDude on May 19, 2011, 11:30:22 PM
Pittsburgh, PA IntelliStar ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfsEN-37KNU#[/url])
I've noticed that the Air Quality Forecast was changed from one reporting location to three on the Pittsburgh FiOS IntelliStar. I find it interesting that TWC has done something like this. Did anyone else receive this update as well?

It's been like this for sometime now.

I must've been out of the loop for a while. That's why I haven't noticed it until now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on May 24, 2011, 07:07:22 PM
Notice today, they skipped the Local on the 8s at 5:28pm ET, 5:58pm ET, 6:28pm, and 6:58pm due to Severe Weather Coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on May 24, 2011, 10:23:00 PM
On the weather.com multimedia page when I clicked on Dallas, TX, Vocal Local narrates "With a Strong Thunderstorm and Hail".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Donovan on May 25, 2011, 04:14:27 PM
I just saw the HD LF on my SD feed. Is this the thing now? or a blooper? it was at 4:09PMEDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Jonathon on May 25, 2011, 04:18:27 PM
I just saw the HD LF on my SD feed. Is this the thing now? or a blooper? it was at 4:09PMEDT
Definitely a blooper. Or Dish Network might have screwed up something over there, who knows.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Donovan on May 25, 2011, 04:22:07 PM
I just saw the HD LF on my SD feed. Is this the thing now? or a blooper? it was at 4:09PMEDT
Definitely a blooper. Or Dish Network might have screwed up something over there, who knows.
I don't think its a blooper. Its in a new flavor that isn't on the regular HD one. It just happened again too @ 4:18. Also a logo in the upper right corner was the YWT one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Jonathon on May 25, 2011, 04:31:13 PM
I just saw the HD LF on my SD feed. Is this the thing now? or a blooper? it was at 4:09PMEDT
Definitely a blooper. Or Dish Network might have screwed up something over there, who knows.
I don't think its a blooper. Its in a new flavor that isn't on the regular HD one. It just happened again too @ 4:18. Also a logo in the upper right corner was the YWT one.
Is the Dish Network Intellistar LDL cuing over the HD LF?
EDIT: Scratch that. Turns out the SD Satellite LF updated.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Donovan on May 25, 2011, 04:34:27 PM
I just saw the HD LF on my SD feed. Is this the thing now? or a blooper? it was at 4:09PMEDT
Definitely a blooper. Or Dish Network might have screwed up something over there, who knows.
I don't think its a blooper. Its in a new flavor that isn't on the regular HD one. It just happened again too @ 4:18. Also a logo in the upper right corner was the YWT one.
Is the Dish Network Intellistar LDL cuing over the HD LF?
Its not cuing over to it. It starts as the HD LF. I think TWC may have finally made the SD look like the HD. It has a slightly different design than i've seen of the actual HD version.
EDIT: It is a new version, no blooper.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 25, 2011, 04:36:43 PM
please look here: https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/new-sd-satellite-lf/msg154267/#new (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/new-sd-satellite-lf/msg154267/#new)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 25, 2011, 05:43:32 PM
The DBS Stars are finally showing the animated IS ads seen on local ISs  :dance:

Back-to-Back Satellite Forecasts - May 25, 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC4KQaFvmxE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on May 26, 2011, 11:53:50 AM
whatever happened to the 8 city observational screen? is that still around? i was thinking about it this morning, and I haven't seen it in my area lately...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 26, 2011, 04:13:08 PM
The moon almanac appearing at :48 was indeed an error. This should be corrected as of this afternoon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 26, 2011, 04:51:55 PM
The moon almanac appearing at :48 was indeed an error. This should be corrected as of this afternoon.

You posted it right when it fixed :P

just saw the normal almanac as 4:08pm
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 28, 2011, 09:17:25 AM
Apparently i lied about no LOT8s bugs anymore... a new one debuted

(http://zach.dyndns-work.com:53205/upload/files/Untitled.jpg)

As for the animated ads, the sponsor ads will still animate just as they did before August 2008 :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on May 28, 2011, 07:31:21 PM
I have a question about the XL:

Does the XL show road markers for US roads? I've only seen them on IntelliStar's. Thanks in advance for any help.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 28, 2011, 07:37:19 PM
I have a question about the XL:

Does the XL show road markers for US roads? I've only seen them on IntelliStar's. Thanks in advance for any help.
Only places in major markets with XLs containing a metro map can US and state highway markers be seen; the XLs radar map is just a large file with all the interstate highway markers embedded into it, while the IS's maps have the borders as a seperate overlay from the actual map image, thus making any road markers movable and editable  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on May 29, 2011, 12:15:31 AM
Kenny Brooks - Just Promise Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUZKd4lVqZI#)

Heard on the August/September 2010 Daytime Playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on June 01, 2011, 05:27:12 PM
The LDL turns on and off every 10 minutes during Special Weather Coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 14, 2011, 11:41:19 AM
Just saw this ad in the ad space...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on June 14, 2011, 12:08:23 PM
Just saw this ad in the ad space...
They started using that yesterday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 27, 2011, 10:48:26 AM
I was digging through the archives and found this text on the 36-hour forecast. I had never seen it before...has anyone else? "Rain....perhaps a rumble of thunder in the afternoon".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 27, 2011, 10:49:43 AM
I was digging through the archives and found this text on the 36-hour forecast. I had never seen it before...has anyone else? "Rain....perhaps a rumble of thunder in the afternoon".

I noticed that in one of their forecasts last week i was doing in an emulation :blink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-4CdmQbrM&feature=player_detailpage#t=85s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-4CdmQbrM&feature=player_detailpage#t=85s)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 27, 2011, 11:07:31 AM
I was digging through the archives and found this text on the 36-hour forecast. I had never seen it before...has anyone else? "Rain....perhaps a rumble of thunder in the afternoon".

Yeah, I've seen that plenty of times. Particularly during the winter/early spring.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on June 27, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
I was digging through the archives and found this text on the 36-hour forecast. I had never seen it before...has anyone else? "Rain....perhaps a rumble of thunder in the afternoon".
I remember seeing that text quite often on my XL a few years ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 27, 2011, 11:33:00 PM
Boston, MA Verizon FIOS Metro Map (Looks like a Regional map than anything else) compared to my Comcast New Bedford, MA regional and metro maps
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on June 27, 2011, 11:56:21 PM
Boston, MA Verizon FIOS Metro Map (Looks like a Regional map than anything else) compared to my Comcast New Bedford, MA regional and metro maps
Wow, the Fios metro map is zoomed way out compared the Comcast metro map.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 30, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
My IntelliStar's radar has been unavailable since late last evening.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 30, 2011, 06:39:09 PM
I was digging through the archives and found this text on the 36-hour forecast. I had never seen it before...has anyone else? "Rain....perhaps a rumble of thunder in the afternoon".
I have seen that several times on the 36 hour forecast
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 01, 2011, 01:19:05 AM
Are the songs that played at :08 and :18 already on the list?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 01, 2011, 03:03:03 AM
Steppin' In by CC Gilmore was at :08

and Sweetest Nights - Leigh Robbins was at :18

Atmospheres - CC Gilmore was at :28

so yes it's still May/June.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 01, 2011, 07:45:04 AM
The day is still young, not every playlist starts overnight.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 01, 2011, 11:08:58 AM
Nope, still no new music. Right now, Checkin You Out is playing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on July 01, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
Nope, still no new music. Right now, Checkin You Out is playing.
Well, we still have Primetime coming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 01, 2011, 11:17:48 AM
A new playlist has never started on Friday primetime. If not by then, then it'll probably be 7/5
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 01, 2011, 11:22:01 AM
A new playlist has never started on Friday primetime. If not by then, then it'll probably be 7/5
I wouldnt doubt that.. since March the playlists have started on the 1st Tuesday of every other month
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 01, 2011, 11:23:33 AM
Yup and they wouldn't put it on the 4th, so it seems Tuesday the 5th would be logical
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 01, 2011, 01:55:27 PM
Well, we still have Primetime coming.
There hasn't been a playlist that started on primetime since April 2010, so I doubt it. I'm going with Molly's prediction.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 01, 2011, 07:12:12 PM
Here's the reply i got when i recieved the May/June 2011 Playlist about playlist durations.

"While it’s always a bit TBD – yes, I do think around two months is the duration we will stick with for the foreseeable future"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 04, 2011, 11:41:04 AM
Another daypart begins and the playlist waiting game continues.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 04, 2011, 01:11:48 PM
Another daypart begins and the playlist waiting game continues.  :thumbdown:
I'm telling you it will start tomorrow. It's a national holiday. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 04, 2011, 01:55:37 PM
How about we all just wait until the damn thing starts already? An artist told me it would be on the 1st, but obviously that didn't happen. Even though I partially took part in this,we have to just wait and see; guessing day after day for it doesn't help.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on July 04, 2011, 04:46:55 PM
I guarantee it'll be sometime before the 10th, and I don't even have inside information.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 04, 2011, 10:45:59 PM
How about we all just wait until the damn thing starts already? An artist told me it would be on the 1st, but obviously that didn't happen. Even though I partially took part in this,we have to just wait and see; guessing day after day for it doesn't help.
Thank you, Molly. B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on July 05, 2011, 11:09:20 AM
Still the May/June playlist as of 11:08 EDT. :/
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 05, 2011, 12:04:35 PM
Didn't the January playlist start at some point during daytime? I'm hoping the new one does too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on July 05, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
This is the longest playlist we've had since the Oct/Nov playlist, which lasted from the end of September all the way to early December, if you excuse that week in November when the Aug/Sept playlist returned.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 05, 2011, 02:02:38 PM
My IntelliStar now has a Xfinity logo on the station ID as opposed to a Comcast logo.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 05, 2011, 02:57:44 PM
My IntelliStar now has a Xfinity logo on the station ID as opposed to a Comcast logo.

They changed it to Xfinity here too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 05, 2011, 03:13:56 PM
My area is still a . so i'm not able to see it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 08, 2011, 11:20:58 AM
Did anyone have any IS cueing issues as of 11:18 AM ET? I noticed that it's 11:20 AM ET and commercials are still running on DirecTV.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 08, 2011, 11:33:02 AM
Did anyone have any IS cueing issues as of 11:18 AM ET? I noticed that it's 11:20 AM ET and commercials are still running on DirecTV.

I think they purposely did that so they could cover the final space shuttle launch.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 09, 2011, 01:54:41 PM
My area is still a . so i'm not able to see it.


I'm not sure if you've seen it by now, but here's how it looks. It's at the very beginning.

Local Forecast - 7/9/2011 4:28am (Stanley Turrentine - Side Steppin' ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-jLE4UjG8#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 09, 2011, 01:59:49 PM
On the :48 LF, the IS read the Weather Bulletin screen as 'The NWS has issued a weather bulletin'.

On the :58 LF, the IS read it as 'A Heat Advisory and an Excessive Heat Watch has been issued for our area'.

What is the difference, and why is it alternating?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 09, 2011, 02:29:00 PM
On the :48 LF, the IS read the Weather Bulletin screen as 'The NWS has issued a weather bulletin'.

On the :58 LF, the IS read it as 'A Heat Advisory and an Excessive Heat Watch has been issued for our area'.

What is the difference, and why is it alternating?

For time most likely, like sometimes if the text forecast is long to save time it won't read things like the wind speeds or it will read a more simplified phase.

EDIT: Also the phase you said was used at :48 is used more often if you have more than 2 weather bulletins from what I've noticed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 09, 2011, 10:35:42 PM
My area is still a . so i'm not able to see it.


I'm not sure if you've seen it by now, but here's how it looks. It's at the very beginning.

Local Forecast - 7/9/2011 4:28am (Stanley Turrentine - Side Steppin' ) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-jLE4UjG8#[/url])


thanks for catching that my area still shows a . for an id
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 10, 2011, 08:53:33 PM
Just saw something that I've never seen on the Memphis IntelliStar -- the Morning/Afternoon commute :blink:

I know that most STARs had it already, but I had never seen it before today on 24745.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on July 10, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
What is the difference between the radar on the XL and IS? I know that the IS has HiRAD, but I wasn't sure if the XL did or not. The XL reminds me of a better color paletted version of the 4000's radar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 12, 2011, 01:26:08 PM
Hmm, I've never seen a weather bulletin written this way on the IntelliStar before... :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 12, 2011, 01:47:48 PM
Hmm, I've never seen a weather bulletin written this way on the IntelliStar before... :thinking:

That is VERY odd. :thinking: We are under an Excessive Heat Warning and it is still showing in the basic format. Great catch!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 12, 2011, 01:51:23 PM
I thought anyone might be interested in seeing the Williamsburg, VA intellistar.. (You may want to turn the speakers down, they are LOUD)

Video 1 was taken at 9:58pm on 6/20 , notice how Williamsburg itself, is listed on the Getaway page
Williamsburg, VA Intellistar 1 - 6/20/11 9:58PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiyORn9XXWM#)

Video 2 was taken at 10:38pm and has a very interesting metro map:
Williamsburg, VA Intellistar 2 - 6/20/11 10:38PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9NGpmSWX7o#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 12, 2011, 03:46:01 PM
That is probably because Getaways are programmed based on DMA, and Williamsburg is in the Hampton Roads DMA.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 12, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
Hmm, I've never seen a weather bulletin written this way on the IntelliStar before... :thinking:
The weather bulletin product takes it's information directly from the zone forecasts the NWS puts out, which is why there is no consistency to how the bulletins are formatted.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on July 12, 2011, 11:34:02 PM
That is probably because Getaways are programmed based on DMA, and Williamsburg is in the Hampton Roads DMA.
Correct
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 14, 2011, 02:19:59 PM
In the 12:38 CT SD sat LF, the look of the radar/satellite portion changed. The glassy border is gone, and there is now a fade transition between each region.

For some reason, the LF is already showing tomorrow's forecast, even though it's only 3:18 ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 14, 2011, 03:21:31 PM
There were complaints about the border.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 14, 2011, 03:22:10 PM
Can someone get a new video of the ticker?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 14, 2011, 03:23:12 PM
Complaints? Surprised they even took action with a request like that
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 14, 2011, 04:08:43 PM
This is a new one :blink:

The IS cut out mid-forecast but the LDL stayed on...

EDIT: Cut out again at :08, no audio and no LDL this time. I think our IS is re-booting.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 14, 2011, 04:12:03 PM
This is a new one :blink:

The IS cut out mid-forecast but the LDL stayed on...

EDIT: Cut out again at :08, no audio and no LDL this time. I think our IS is re-booting.
The music also cut out on the satellite feed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 14, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
I wish they would remove the extra blue box space on the DirecTV IS's corner ads.. Ive seen it covering up some data on the SLF :hmm:

However, what I dont get is why the Dish STAR doesnt have this box.. the Dell ad running today had the blue box around it in the corner ad on DirecTV but Dish's doesnt :dunno:

(video of it on Dish)
Satellite Local Forecast on July 14, 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJSSDpfJxPg#)

I think that this box is on the DirecTV IS ads because of the DirecTV LF app's window to show the ads and so the animations in the background dont distract the viewer.. but it makes no sense :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 14, 2011, 05:34:12 PM
I wish they would remove the extra blue box space on the DirecTV IS's corner ads.. Ive seen it covering up some data on the SLF :hmm:

However, what I dont get is why the Dish STAR doesnt have this box.. the Dell ad running today had the blue box around it in the corner ad on DirecTV but Dish's doesnt :dunno:

(video of it on Dish)
Satellite Local Forecast on July 14, 2011 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJSSDpfJxPg#[/url])

I think that this box is on the DirecTV IS ads because of the DirecTV LF app's window to show the ads and so the animations in the background dont distract the viewer.. but it makes no sense :unsure:


It's due to the DirecTV LF App. They want it to fill the ad space.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 14, 2011, 10:23:13 PM
Complaints? Surprised they even took action with a request like that
It obviously depends on who complains about it... they don't listen to FB/Twitter complaints but moreso on what they receive over the phone.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 15, 2011, 01:00:45 AM
Complaints? Surprised they even took action with a request like that
It obviously depends on who complains about it... they don't listen to FB/Twitter complaints but moreso on what they receive over the phone.
Wrong. They listen to complaints via social media more than emails and phone calls.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 15, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Found this picture on Twitter.. very interesting :yes: (and yes, the labeling was done by me :P)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 15, 2011, 11:01:02 AM
Wow... so many local forecasts all at once...!  :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2011, 01:05:06 PM
Found this picture on Twitter.. very interesting :yes: (and yes, the labeling was done by me :P)
When was that picture taken? posted?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 15, 2011, 07:46:58 PM
Has anyone been able to get a full 720p cap of anything TWC from live TV?

Found this picture on Twitter.. very interesting :yes: (and yes, the labeling was done by me :P)
When was that picture taken? posted?
It'd have to be pretty recent...that's the new SD Sat LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 18, 2011, 01:33:35 PM
Some more changes to the SD satellite LF: at 12:28 CT, the five-day forecast became a three-day one. The TWC logo is built into that slide. You can tell when the weather.com and TWCM logos overlap the regular one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 18, 2011, 04:41:13 PM
I've always wondered why, on the Weather Bulletin screen, most of the warnings are listed like this:
Tornado Watch
Excessive Heat Warning

etc.

But that the Excessive Heat Watches are listed as:
Excessive heat watch


:thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 18, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
The Sat LF looks terrible now. I really liked the borders and the 5 day forecast, but now the transitions look rather dull... :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 18, 2011, 09:54:50 PM
It's not what I'd call ideal.  I'd actually like to see a return to the 1990s style satellite forecasts, when a list of cities with a 3-day forecast was included along with maps for temperatures, current conditions, satellite and radar, etc.

It seems like the satellite forecasts now have gotten much too busy for the limited amount of information they contain.  And, considering forecasts these days last no longer than 2 minutes, all of those fancy transitions just eat up time that could be used for showing actual weather information.

Granted... it's still better than the never-ending "Travel Cities Forecast" scroll.  Believe me, it was downright boring when you had to stare at a grey screen with lines and lines of text scrolling across the screen for up to three minutes at a stretch!  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 18, 2011, 10:59:40 PM
It seems like the satellite forecasts now have gotten much too busy for the limited amount of information they contain.  And, considering forecasts these days last no longer than 2 minutes, all of those fancy transitions just eat up time that could be used for showing actual weather information.
I know right! And I thought people wanted things to be more simple, which was why they made the transitions on the Intellistar more basic back in 2007.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Donovan on July 19, 2011, 01:31:18 AM
Why is the SD National LF only showing 3 Day forecasts now?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 19, 2011, 07:50:15 AM
Why is the SD National LF only showing 3 Day forecasts now?

They're still making changes to it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 19, 2011, 01:25:36 PM
Why is the SD National LF only showing 3 Day forecasts now?

Who knows. :wacko: If they're still making changes, they really need to add precipitation and thunderstorm maps. :club:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 19, 2011, 02:36:42 PM
LA area XL :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 19, 2011, 02:59:32 PM
Why is the SD National LF only showing 3 Day forecasts now?

I think it's to make it different from the HD version and more like the 2008 SD version was, I actually like it better that way. It doesn't make sense to have the SD and HD Satellite LF look so much the same if you ask me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 19, 2011, 03:52:49 PM
LA area XL :blink:
Is that Time Warner for Van Nuys? If so, I found the very same XL a few months ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 19, 2011, 08:04:46 PM
LA area XL :blink:
Is that Time Warner for Van Nuys? If so, I found the very same XL a few months ago.
I dunno.. i knew there was an XL out in Van Nuys but i didnt think it was that close to LA :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 19, 2011, 09:12:33 PM
Do you know which city u found this XL from? I wanna add it to my silicondust legacy database b/c I just searched Van Nuys, n twc don't show up
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 21, 2011, 03:53:45 PM
it would be nice if the 8 city obs page could be seen during the :08 and :38 flavors instead of having to wait to see the conditions on the LDL after those LFs, i bring this up because the flavor goes from CC page and jumps to Regional Radar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 22, 2011, 12:48:25 PM
Is the Heat Safety Tips screen still in the IntelliStar's playlist? I haven't seen it at all since 2006 before the K flavors returned at :18/:48, and it's well above the 103° heat index that prompted the screen to show here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on July 22, 2011, 01:15:45 PM
I noticed an interesting outage on Jun 22nd.
On my system we don't have an IS2 and just get the national forecast on the 8's.
There was a problem with the system that generates the HD national forecast and displays the LDL.
When going to the national forecast and we get music and a black screen.
Shortly after we get switched to an SD video feed with weather forecasts and maps.
Am I correct that this is the system that is used if The Weather Channel goes off the air?
Local Forecast Outage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bWTvD2rf6U#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 22, 2011, 01:52:57 PM
I noticed an interesting outage on Jun 22nd.
On my system we don't have an IS2 and just get the national forecast on the 8's.
There was a problem with the system that generates the HD national forecast and displays the LDL.
When going to the national forecast and we get music and a black screen.
Shortly after we get switched to an SD video feed with weather forecasts and maps.
Am I correct that this is the system that is used if The Weather Channel goes off the air?
Local Forecast Outage ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bWTvD2rf6U#ws[/url])


That's the ESF. 100% normal.



Is the Heat Safety Tips screen still in the IntelliStar's playlist? I haven't seen it at all since 2006 before the K flavors returned at :18/:48, and it's well above the 103° heat index that prompted the screen to show here.


Apparently you missed my post. I just saw it yesterday, but it was only on 1 LF and it was never seen again.

https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/newreturning-product/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/newreturning-product/)

Here's a video:
TWC - Memphis IntelliStar - Heat Safety Tips Screen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWFs-2yqQJc#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 24, 2011, 07:06:55 PM
I just heard the IS buzzing in person for the first time! :happy:

IntelliStar Local Forecast - July 24, 2011 - Buzzing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob7hAy-57K8#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 24, 2011, 09:05:56 PM
Hi there :wave:,

So on my LF, there are 2 HiRad sites serving Memphis: Downtown and at the airport (about 7 miles from each other). The Downtown site is used on the CC and LDL, and the airport site is used on the metro and regional maps. Sometimes the temperature/weather is different. For instance, just now, the CC reported Mostly Cloudy skies and 84, while the metro map reported a Thunderstorm and 78.

Seeing that this could confuse some viewers, I asked about this once in the Tech Support thread, with no reply. I don't want to ask again because it seems like some people are getting ticked off about my numerous posts in that thread recently.

So, I'm asking you, would this annoy you if it were on your STAR? If so, is it worth posting another topic on?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 24, 2011, 09:10:35 PM
The Tampa STAR is configured that way, so i dunno. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 26, 2011, 06:39:28 PM
A 3-Day Extended Forecast? On the IntelliStar? In February 2011? Well, believe it or not, here it is.

TWC Intellistar error Florissant, MO with 3-day forecast part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbPw2_wYNoA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 26, 2011, 07:04:31 PM
It looks like that Intellistar was having some problems - lots of missing data, for example, which is why it showed the non-traditional 3-day forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 26, 2011, 10:04:25 PM
Don't see this happen everyday. Pic is from the New Ken headend.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 27, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
if TWC ever can't make a playlist due to money issues they should just revert to Network Music Playlists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 27, 2011, 01:30:47 PM
if TWC ever can't make a playlist due to money issues they should just revert to Network Music Playlists.
Has nothing to do with money... the average viewer doesn't wait every first day of the month for a playlist. We should be grateful that TWC at least puts out a playlist every two months, with songs that we haven't heard in awhile.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 27, 2011, 01:57:34 PM
if TWC ever can't make a playlist due to money issues they should just revert to Network Music Playlists.
Has nothing to do with money... the average viewer doesn't wait every first day of the month for a playlist. We should be grateful that TWC at least puts out a playlist every two months, with songs that we haven't heard in awhile.
But why would that matter? They've been doing this for over a decade, so why would they suddenly stop putting the playlists on a monthly basis? Whether it'd be money or Picard being lazy with his job, there probably has to be a more sensible reason. In all honesty, I just think they're doing random playlists simply because they don't have enough new songs to fill a playlist in one month's time. They're being more selective with music, so it would probably make sense to go monthly only if they brought back the 35 song jazz playlists. Just look at primetime, it's all (primarily) repeats, clearly if they went back to monthlies, the primetime list would be completely composed of repeats, and probably the same for the morning list, too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 27, 2011, 02:10:27 PM
But why would that matter? They've been doing this for over a decade, so why would they suddenly stop putting the playlists on a monthly basis?
It's been said time and time again...the average viewer doesn't care. And with viewership on a steady decline, music should be the least of their worries.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 27, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
But why would that matter? They've been doing this for over a decade, so why would they suddenly stop putting the playlists on a monthly basis?
It's been said time and time again...the average viewer doesn't care. And with viewership on a steady decline, music should be the least of their worries.
If the average viewer doesn't care, then maybe they shouldn't have changed the playlists with rock music, a morning daypart and extra songs, then. Could've just left the playlists back to where they used to be..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 29, 2011, 06:39:20 PM
Reasons why the 48hr and 36hr Text-Based Local Forecast should be discontinued

1. there is no need to show example "Saturday Night" and "Sunday's" Forecast because the average viewer isn't going to sit through 2 mins and 90 seconds just for 4 text-based screens.

2. With both the 48hr and 36hr removed, more weather-related screens would show in their place.

3. the current effect of both the 48hr and 36hr allow for longer text to be shown which means longer narration and a dragged on boring local forecast, if TWC only showed the 24hr they could just show what is going to occur in a day's span instead of an erroneous 2 days the 48hr and 36hr show.

it's just basic common sense to limit the Text to 24hr if the next day is already shown on the 7 day Forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 29, 2011, 07:04:13 PM
I disagree.  The text-based local forecast can provide much more information than can be provided on regional/metro maps or in the 7-day forecast.  On days when it's just going to be sunny and pleasant, maybe they can seem superfluous, but when any significant weather event takes place, they can prove of vital importance, conveying information that otherwise wouldn't be available.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on July 29, 2011, 07:09:52 PM
Notice last time during the Winter Season, when visiting weather.com/multimedia, and if you click on any Midwest City such as Flint, MI, notice the Vocal Local narration doesn't say the temperatures that say zero degree or temperatures below zero on the Current Conditions video page. He says "Currently the temperature is..." then skipped to the sky conditions when temperature reaches 0 or below.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 29, 2011, 07:11:16 PM
but when any significant weather event takes place, they can prove of vital importance, conveying information that otherwise wouldn't be available.

with the current Statement feature (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/daypart/msg157697/#msg157697) being added to the Star's the Text-Based forecast in the 36hr and 48hr format would no longer be needed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 29, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
I disagree.  The text-based local forecast can provide much more information than can be provided on regional/metro maps or in the 7-day forecast.  On days when it's just going to be sunny and pleasant, maybe they can seem superfluous, but when any significant weather event takes place, they can prove of vital importance, conveying information that otherwise wouldn't be available.
I completely agree. It would be asinine to remove the 36- and 48-hour text forecasts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 29, 2011, 08:12:58 PM
but when any significant weather event takes place, they can prove of vital importance, conveying information that otherwise wouldn't be available.

with the current Statement feature (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/daypart/msg157697/#msg157697) being added to the Star's the Text-Based forecast in the 36hr and 48hr format would no longer be needed.

Again, I disagree.  Two lines of text can't possibly take the place of a detailed narrative.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 30, 2011, 08:12:40 PM
So everyone is happy how about this?

two things TWC should do next is implement the 36hr forecast when precipitation is forecasted in a 36hr period.

and implement the 24hr Forecast when no precipitation is forecasted in a 24hr period.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 30, 2011, 10:43:26 PM
So everyone is happy how about this?

two things TWC should do next is implement the 36hr forecast when precipitation is forecasted in a 36hr period.

and implement the 24hr Forecast when no precipitation is forecasted in a 24hr period.
On the 1:30 forecasts yes, since there's a limited amount of time for products. But it should remain 48 hrs on the two minute forecasts, just like how it was prior to last winter.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 31, 2011, 08:20:02 AM
I think there's a solution to this whole thing of the local observations and the metro maps. They could add current/forecasted wind speeds to the metro maps in white text like under the sky/temp conditions. That would definitely render the 8 city local observations utterly useless.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 01, 2011, 01:07:08 PM
Here's my shot at 720p

Recorded Video Failure on Weather Center Live (8/1/11) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWuPC51PxHM#ws)

and here's Socool's quality in HD (looks either 720p or 1080i) Hauppauge HD-PVR

Hauppauge HD PVR High Definition Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veEk6raUEis#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 01, 2011, 01:09:50 PM
Aaron has the same device I have.. see this

HD Local Forecast - December 25, 2010 - 8:58 AM ET (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VKP4TxgwRQ#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on August 03, 2011, 11:24:21 AM
Just now, an LF was played alongside Day Planner. It was the L-bar format. Is that going to be the new thing? That's the last straw for me if it is, no joke. The music is practically the only reason why I still watch, and that L-bar would take it out. I'll delete this post if I'm just completely misinformed about this. I don't mean to be a noob; I haven't been paying much attention to TWC as of late.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on August 03, 2011, 11:27:32 AM
Unless it's when they are covering a big storm I do not want to lose the full local forecast to this during live programming.
If they do it again I'll post a clip.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 03, 2011, 11:31:38 AM
this has to be a test for the coverage of emily or throughout longform, if not then TWC really pulled another bad move
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 03, 2011, 11:49:56 AM
this has to be a test for the coverage of emily or throughout longform, if not then TWC really pulled another bad move

It seems to be something they're doing for 18/48 past the hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 03, 2011, 11:51:34 AM
It seems to be something they're doing for 18/48 past the hour.

that must mean those K flavors are gone  :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on August 03, 2011, 11:55:35 AM
Boo.

Well, that's better than that being the only form of LF. I really will be disappointed if that's going to be the future LF except for :28/:58 because only two songs an hour would be very lame. I can live with it for :18/:48, but I will seriously can TWC if they do more than that. I'm not trying to make drama, people, I'm just a bit disgusted at some of the changes they've made recently. It's just not the TWC that I was captivated by 10 years ago, is all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 03, 2011, 11:59:54 AM
and i was hoping they would add the :28/:58 flavor to either the :18/:48 or :08/:38

way to sway the viewers TWC  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 03, 2011, 12:02:07 PM
Boo.

Well, that's better than that being the only form of LF. I really will be disappointed if that's going to be the future LF except for :28/:58 because only two songs an hour would be very lame. I can live with it for :18/:48, but I will seriously can TWC if they do more than that. I'm not trying to make drama, people, I'm just a bit disgusted at some of the changes they've made recently. It's just not the TWC that I was captivated by 10 years ago, is all.

They showed the LF at 08/38, only the LF at 18/48 had the LF squeeze-back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on August 03, 2011, 12:11:22 PM
Here's a video from the national HD feed,
Local Forecast Day Planner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5cFF6WSfVY#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 03, 2011, 12:15:54 PM
Bullshit. That's all I can say. Someone please tell me this BETTER not be permanent.  :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 03, 2011, 12:17:23 PM
Bullshit. That's all I can say. Someone please tell me this BETTER not be permanent.  :censored: :censored: :censored:

i hope it isn't either because artists on the playlist lose airtime over this.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 03, 2011, 12:17:55 PM
I thought this was a fluke when I saw this, but I guess now. First the LF's from :08 and 38 get shrinked into K flavors and now the :18 and :48 lfs are gone completely? While I never liked the :18/:48 lfs because of the missing extra 30 seconds of music, I'm not happy to see the LF's completely eliminated
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 03, 2011, 12:19:08 PM
LFs are back at 12:18
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 03, 2011, 12:23:43 PM
I think you all are seriously overreacting, please take a chill pill. It's not replacing the LOT8s concept. Even TWC isn't that stupid. I believe it's just something they will do when they have extended coverage instead of having to cue a STAR for the local forecast they'll show the squeeze back instead to have more airtime.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 03, 2011, 12:23:44 PM
LFs are back at 12:18

i just hope now they use a 2 min flavor either :08 or :18 (hopefully they do in the near future)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 03, 2011, 12:30:15 PM
LFs are back at 12:18

i just hope now they use a 2 min flavor either :08 or :18 (hopefully they do in the near future)
they won't
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 03, 2011, 12:33:11 PM
Nothing shown today is permanent.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jrhtwc on August 03, 2011, 12:49:27 PM
Nothing shown today is permanent.
    do you happen to know what will be permanent?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on August 03, 2011, 12:57:08 PM
Well, that's good then. TWC didn't go past the line for me yet.

I was just going to be really upset if it were permanent and if only LF's at :28/:58 would be shown. For me, I would've missed the music and the overall nostalgia for local forecasts. I'm glad that's not looking like it's going to be the case at the moment, according to Tyler. Thank goodness.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 03, 2011, 01:05:32 PM
Nothing shown today is permanent.
That's good. Just curious, but will the 2 minute locals return on the :08's and :38's?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on August 03, 2011, 01:06:08 PM
i'm actually a fan of this concept. i wouldn't mind it too much if it was permanent, but it does appear to be for extended coverage, which again, i wouldn't mind.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 03, 2011, 01:30:44 PM
It's just not the TWC that I was captivated by 10 years ago, is all.

This certainly isn't the channel I was captivated by 23 years ago.  Things were so much better then.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 03, 2011, 01:44:54 PM
You guys are overacting way too much here, and let's calm down the language as well.  What if TWC was just testing a new concept during extended coverage for highly significant weather moments?  If a major hurricane is about to make landfall or there's an incredible amount of severe weather going on at once, this isn't a bad mode to have ready.  TWC is supposed to do live weather first when things are very active.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 03, 2011, 02:06:39 PM
IMO, the daypart forecast really needs to be shown more.
Based on the recent changes, you kinda got your wish there :blushing: :P

You guys are overacting way too much here, and let's calm down the language as well.  What if TWC was just testing a new concept during extended coverage for highly significant weather moments?  If a major hurricane is about to make landfall or there's an incredible amount of severe weather going on at once, this isn't a bad mode to have ready.  TWC is supposed to do live weather first when things are very active.
I agree. I remember once earlier this year, they halted an LF for severe weather coverage once a tornado warning got issued, but I can see why they are making moves like this.. when that LF I speak of was halted, only satellite viewers or viewers with no STAR got to see it, as the STARs continued to finish up their cycles.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 03, 2011, 02:45:55 PM
You guys are overacting way too much here, and let's calm down the language as well.

the reason everyone is overreacting is because it's a change no one is used to yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 03, 2011, 02:54:02 PM
You guys are overacting way too much here, and let's calm down the language as well.

the reason everyone is overreacting is because it's a change no one is used to yet.
Just because people aren't used to it ins't an excuse to overreact or use unacceptable language.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on August 03, 2011, 04:15:06 PM
This video features an Excessive Heat Warning, an Excessive Heat Watch, 106° narration, Record Temperature Screen, Heat Safety Tips Screen, and a Code Orange Alert.

Someone please bring me a bucket, I am melting down here.

TWC - Memphis IntelliStar- Dangerously Hot Temperatures (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDhgcw29hjk#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mr. Rainman on August 03, 2011, 04:22:06 PM
You are not the only one. It's in the triple digits in South Carolina too :P

EDIT: I have never seen that heat safety tips screen before.  :blink: Probably cause it hasn't gotten that hot here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on August 03, 2011, 05:22:34 PM
Ha-ha, I even mentioned in my post that I wasn't trying to cause drama, but, of course, it happened, and I'm probably the instigator to blame for bringing it up. Since I haven't been paying much attention to TWC lately, I didn't know what to anticipate. I just didn't like what I saw and nothing more. If I really wanted to, I could've just changed the channel. End of story. I don't know if the overreacting comments were directed towards me or not, but I don't really care about the change (if it ever happens). I just would've missed the music. For a hurricane or other weather phenomenon, it actually looks like a good idea, I agree. But I think we can put this petty predicament at peace (puh puh puh) and move on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 05, 2011, 07:43:04 AM
Am i not the only one who can't stand the 48hr Text Based Local Forecast? i wouldn't mind seeing it discontinued in favor of the 36hr or 24hr on all dayparts.

Edit: the Squeezeback is on at 11:18am
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on August 05, 2011, 10:06:48 PM
Notice when there's more Snow expected during the Winter Season, the text might say "Potential Winter Weather expected (name of the day), Additional details available now on weather.com".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on August 12, 2011, 09:18:43 AM
Does anyone have a clip of the HD LF intro with the red summer sun or know the link to one? They showed that in 2008, and I haven't seen that in so long. TWC showed HD intros in 2008 to promote the new channel--there was clouds, rain, the sun, and others. I was just curious if any of you have a clip of that. Thanks!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 12, 2011, 04:21:52 PM
I found an interesting article about The Weather Channel and it's criteria for selecting their LF music:
http://morristown.patch.com/articles/morristown-trainer-realizes-musical-dream (http://morristown.patch.com/articles/morristown-trainer-realizes-musical-dream)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on August 13, 2011, 03:32:00 PM
so are there not any local vocals during the current conditions product anymore? my star hasn't been narrating it today. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 13, 2011, 04:09:54 PM
so are there not any local vocals during the current conditions product anymore? my star hasn't been narrating it today. :unsure:

Working here in MA, maybe there is an error with your headend.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 13, 2011, 04:35:16 PM
so are there not any local vocals during the current conditions product anymore? my star hasn't been narrating it today. :unsure:
are you seeing any screens like record heat, heat safety tips, or anything else that isnt regularly seen? if all other segments are narrating properly then it must be that your STAR doesnt have time to narrate the CC to make room for other products
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on August 14, 2011, 01:15:12 AM
no. it rained all day today, there was no other product out of the norm. except for the CC not narrating.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 14, 2011, 01:45:48 AM
ah yeah, that happens when the local radar has to be used (I think)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on August 14, 2011, 07:44:49 PM
During the "Text-paged Local Forecast" on the IntelliStar, notice on the next day (I.E. on Tuesday), the text say "Partly cloudy skies", but the Vocal Local mistakenly say "Mainly sunny", and usually the nighttime, the text say "A few passing clouds", but generally the Vocal Local say the reading, but eventually he says "A few passing clouds, otherwise generally clear".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on August 14, 2011, 08:52:27 PM
That doesn't sound like an error. Sometimes the Vocal Local will be a tad dirrerent from the text, but that is on purpose.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 14, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
That doesn't sound like an error. Sometimes the Vocal Local will be a tad dirrerent from the text, but that is on purpose.
It wasn't always like that. I first noticed issues like this happening in early 2007.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 14, 2011, 09:16:11 PM
That doesn't sound like an error. Sometimes the Vocal Local will be a tad dirrerent from the text, but that is on purpose.
It wasn't always like that. I first noticed issues like this happening in early 2007.

When I used to have an ISTAR and on current ones I've seen, extremely long text forecasts (usually for thunderstorms or winter storms) are not read word-for-word. And in some cases, the wording is changed a little to be more concise.

But in the instance above, the text and narration don't necessarily go together properly, so this could be an error...IDK.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on August 14, 2011, 10:28:43 PM
In the early years, when the wet snow is expected during the "Text-based Local Forecast", Vocal Local used to read that text that's used for wet snow, but he doesn't read that text anymore. For example "1 to 3 inches of wet snow expected".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on August 15, 2011, 08:07:17 AM
I've seen

Quote
Today
Thunderstorms. A few storms may be severe, and produce large hail and damaging winds...

(things in ITALIC being things that he didn't read)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 15, 2011, 05:53:08 PM
In the early years, when the wet snow is expected during the "Text-based Local Forecast", Vocal Local used to read that text that's used for wet snow, but he doesn't read that text anymore. For example "1 to 3 inches of wet snow expected".
Yeah, I've noticed several phrases that the IS doesn't narrate anymore. I've pointed these issues out to the STAR team in the past several years, but never got a response.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 15, 2011, 06:22:11 PM
In the early years, when the wet snow is expected during the "Text-based Local Forecast", Vocal Local used to read that text that's used for wet snow, but he doesn't read that text anymore. For example "1 to 3 inches of wet snow expected".
Yeah, I've noticed several phrases that the IS doesn't narrate anymore. I've pointed these issues out to the STAR team in the past several years, but never got a response.

While I wouldn't have a good explanation, it may be possible that they're trying to cut down on some of the narration. I have no idea why; the only reason I know narration is limited is when there is a lot to be read in very little time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 16, 2011, 03:12:57 PM
i have a hunch we're gonna have an august/september playlist sometime next week instead of a september playlist
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on August 16, 2011, 03:40:30 PM
i have a hunch we're gonna have an august/september playlist sometime next week instead of a september playlist
I seriously doubt it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 16, 2011, 03:48:39 PM
i have a hunch we're gonna have an august/september playlist sometime next week instead of a september playlist


Unless you contacted someone from TWC that is a wild hunch :P the month hasn't even ended yet.

i got to thinking and saw this K Flavor this afternoon, it seems like the best one TWC has been airing lately (loads of content)

The Dominant K Flavor: 12:08pm EDT 8/16/2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo9AWM0mZSY#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on August 16, 2011, 09:34:50 PM
Browsing the new TWC Index (here (http://fcgi.weather.com/web/) is a link if you haven't seen it), I found this. I thought it was good enough to share, being that we think 30000's are a huge STAR ID number :P

(http://fcgi.weather.com/web/aboutus/marketing/areaserved.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 16, 2011, 09:42:31 PM
That directory isnt new (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg155670/#msg155670) ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on August 16, 2011, 09:56:44 PM
By 'new' I meant not the XOAP. We sometimes still refer to the 2010-Present icons as 'new' sometimes, and that's what I meant by that ;) I've known about this for a while now. I just posted another link because I know some people don't know about it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 20, 2011, 12:34:26 PM
does anyone know what song played at 10:28 (eastern) last night?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 22, 2011, 10:57:36 AM
I read that a fire weather warning, aka a red flag warning, is supposed to go in effect in Spokane and surrounding areas from 1PM PT to 8PM PT later today because of low humidity, high temps and breezy conditions.

Now here's my question: does anyone if a scroll is supposed to appear at the the bottom of the screen on TWC when the FWW goes in effect, or does it even exist and has anyone ever seen any scrolls of this warning? Just need a heads-up.

Thanks,
TWCJim :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 22, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
I read that a fire weather warning, aka a red flag warning, is supposed to go in effect in Spokane and surrounding areas from 1PM PT to 8PM PT later today because of low humidity, high temps and breezy conditions.

Now here's my question: does anyone if a scroll is supposed to appear at the the bottom of the screen on TWC when the FWW goes in effect, or does it even exist and has anyone ever seen any scrolls of this warning? Just need a heads-up.

Thanks,
TWCJim :)
Nothing will appear on your IntelliStar for a Red Flag Warning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 22, 2011, 01:42:34 PM
Thanks for the info. I was just curious.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 22, 2011, 03:13:21 PM
I now have the red box highlighting Sunday on my IS's Week Ahead screen for possible heavy rain associated with Hurricane Irene.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Steve-O on August 22, 2011, 08:06:35 PM
I also have a red box around Sunday on the 7 day.

**Fixed the size of the image - I posted the previous image from my cell phone full size**
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on August 23, 2011, 06:34:40 AM
No Vocal Music was played during Wake Up with Al due to Special Weather Coverage of Hurricane Irene.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 23, 2011, 11:02:36 AM
I wonder if the Storm Alert music will return because of Irene approaching the US   :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: stormymikala on August 23, 2011, 12:11:44 PM
I also had a red box for when SWFlorida was in the storm cone. I should take a pic if another storm forms.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 23, 2011, 04:02:49 PM
I wonder if TWC will activate the Satellite product for IntelliStars along the east coast in anticipation of Irene?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 23, 2011, 04:37:46 PM
I wonder if TWC will activate the Satellite product for IntelliStars along the east coast in anticipation of Irene?

I already see it on a regular basis when the close-up radar isn't needed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 23, 2011, 04:41:11 PM
I wonder if TWC will activate the Satellite product for IntelliStars along the east coast in anticipation of Irene?

I already see it on a regular basis when the close-up radar isn't needed.
The actual Satellite product or the Radar/Satellite? The Satellite product is only typically seen on the west coast, and in some circumstances in the past on the east coast when a large blizzard or hurricane was approaching.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 23, 2011, 04:51:39 PM
I wonder if TWC will activate the Satellite product for IntelliStars along the east coast in anticipation of Irene?

I already see it on a regular basis when the close-up radar isn't needed.
The actual Satellite product or the Radar/Satellite? The Satellite product is only typically seen on the west coast, and in some circumstances in the past on the east coast when a large blizzard or hurricane was approaching.

Sorry - the radar/satellite.  With a landfalling (or approaching) hurricane, I think the radar/satellite would be more valuable than just the satellite.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on August 24, 2011, 12:06:27 PM
We are getting the same red graphics.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 24, 2011, 12:40:39 PM
My Star says Hurricane Conditions Possible Sunday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 24, 2011, 02:18:50 PM
The red box disappeared about a day and a half ago when it became clear that the Daytona Beach area won't have too much of an impact from Irene.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 25, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
Speaking of the red box, does the IS2 not have this capability? Martin's IS2 videos he posted did not have red boxes on the Week Ahead. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on August 25, 2011, 06:40:17 PM
Considering the XL was discontinued a LDL, I don't believe that it would be redboxed, eh?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on August 25, 2011, 07:18:53 PM
Considering the XL was discontinued a LDL, I don't believe that it would be redboxed, eh?
The update was only for the Intellistar and IS2. I'm afraid the XL likely won't be getting anymore updates.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 25, 2011, 07:49:05 PM
Windchimes by 7and5 at :48 :huh:

Horizon by Paul Taylor at :58 :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 25, 2011, 07:58:30 PM
Windchimes by 7and5 at :48 :huh:

Horizon by Paul Taylor right now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on August 25, 2011, 08:19:39 PM
Some weird music that I have never heard before at :18. New playlist? Definitely not SA Music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 25, 2011, 08:22:30 PM
Some weird music that I have never heard before at :18. New playlist? Definitely not SA Music.
No, its Say No More by Paul Taylor, from the overnight

Horizon again @ :28 :yawn:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 25, 2011, 08:33:13 PM
Your new SA = Random Playlist Music  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 25, 2011, 08:59:02 PM
Your new SA = Random Playlist Music  :P

Either that or Paul Taylor is the new Trammell Starks tonight. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 25, 2011, 09:01:06 PM
They might be starting the storm alert music. They mixed up playlist music before the real storm alert music started in the past
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on August 25, 2011, 09:20:42 PM
Chasing in The Wind at :18 :blink:

What was the song at :08 and :28? I know it's from the morning list.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 25, 2011, 09:43:14 PM
Chasing in The Wind at :18 :blink:

What was the song at :08 and :28? I know it's from the morning list.

Wild shot in the dark, but I'm gonna assume it was "Horizon" by Paul Taylor.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 25, 2011, 09:46:13 PM
What was the song at :08 and :28? I know it's from the morning list.

Your Hand in Mine by Explosions in the Sky at :08 Primetime song

Horizon - Paul Taylor at :28 - Morning Song.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on August 25, 2011, 10:03:41 PM
What was the song at :08 and :28? I know it's from the morning list.

Your Hand in Mine by Explosions in the Sky at :08 Primetime song

Horizon - Paul Taylor at :28 - Morning Song.
Thanks, but I thought Horizon played at :08, and Your Hand in Mine played at :58.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on August 25, 2011, 10:10:23 PM
Marcus Anderson at :08!  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 25, 2011, 10:32:34 PM
I love this jazzy primetime. Haven't heard such music since early 09
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 25, 2011, 10:39:03 PM
Very odd though, something's not right about this...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 25, 2011, 10:51:20 PM
Say no more is back on primetime xD
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on August 26, 2011, 10:02:50 AM
They might be starting the storm alert music. They mixed up playlist music before the real storm alert music started in the past

Storm Alert music should start either this afternoon, tonight, or tomorrow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on August 26, 2011, 10:55:04 AM
No More Sages at :48
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 26, 2011, 11:23:07 AM
It appears the L-bar has made a return at :18  :o

Maybe it hasn't been discontinued for good.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 26, 2011, 12:50:44 PM
It appears the L-bar has made a return at :18  :o

Maybe it hasn't been discontinued for good.

Assuming the L-bar is the squeezeback, I wonder if TWC has now reached the final stage of their expanded coverage by showing the LOT8s utilizing the squeezeback, allowing them to simultaneouly show local weather and continued coverage.

This was tested earlier on. Pretty neat idea, IMO. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on August 26, 2011, 12:55:28 PM
It appears the L-bar has made a return at :18  :o

Maybe it hasn't been discontinued for good.

Wait.
Please tell me you mean the XL - I wasn't paying attention earlier. I was instead making my top secret awesome STAR concept (off-topic).  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 26, 2011, 09:24:30 PM
I've been meaning to ask this for the longest time, but are they ever going to fix that pesky glitch of the Satellite LDL being underneath the IntelliStar LDL?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 26, 2011, 09:32:57 PM
I've been meaning to ask this for the longest time, but are they ever going to fix that pesky glitch of the Satellite LDL being underneath the IntelliStar LDL?

What do you mean?  The Weather Channel broadcasts a nationwide LDL, which local Intellistars cover up with their own LDLs.  If the timing is right, then an Intellistar viewer shouldn't see the national LDL.  Viewers with an XL, 4000, Jr., and no star, however, will see the national LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 26, 2011, 09:43:52 PM
I've been meaning to ask this for the longest time, but are they ever going to fix that pesky glitch of the Satellite LDL being underneath the IntelliStar LDL?


What do you mean?


I assume this:

(http://i.imgur.com/VyUAO.png)

Notice that you can see a few pixels of the national LDL above the local LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 26, 2011, 09:49:49 PM
I've been meaning to ask this for the longest time, but are they ever going to fix that pesky glitch of the Satellite LDL being underneath the IntelliStar LDL?


What do you mean?


I assume this:

([url]http://i.imgur.com/VyUAO.png[/url])

Notice that you can see a few pixels of the national LDL above the local LDL.


Yes, that's what I mean.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 26, 2011, 10:53:34 PM
The Squeezebar is just plain annoying, I'm waiting for either a 28/58 local and i see 5 minutes of commercials  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 26, 2011, 11:05:45 PM
I don't know if this happened the previous hour or not because I wasn't watching, but at 10:59pm I saw the station ID. I thought that was kinda odd to show up randomly. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on August 27, 2011, 01:04:00 AM
We have a channel called News Zone that shows the different news channels on one screen. For TWC they show the feed from Hutchinson, KS. I saw the extended forecast red box showing up on it this afternoon. All I could make out was that there were isolated thunderstorms possible that day and I thought it said something about severe weather possible. Anyone in Hutchinson see this and verify? I'm thinking this is something auto-triggered based on forecast and not something meteorologists have to trigger manually like someone had mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 27, 2011, 01:30:58 AM
That sounds like an extremely interesting channel to have!  And I'm under the impression that the red box has to be manually triggered.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 27, 2011, 01:34:02 AM
I miss the LF already  :cry3:

Does anybody else miss it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 27, 2011, 01:46:51 AM
I'm scared that this is yet another step in the "experimentation" of replacing the local forecast with the L-bar on a more permanent basis.  More time for commercials and longform that way.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 27, 2011, 01:50:43 AM
I'm scared that this is yet another step in the "experimentation" of replacing the local forecast with the L-bar on a more permanent basis.  More time for commercials and longform that way.

Oh gosh, I certainly hope not. :thumbdown: In a video about LOT8s and its transition to HD created a few years ago on TWC MediaKit, Cantore stated that the LOT8s was the #1 reason why people tune to The Weather Channel. Sure the squeezeback gives some local info but not all of it. If the average viewer no longer cares about getting a local forecast, then TWC really shouldn't even exist anymore.

Plus, the STAR team just came out with a sparkling, new IS2. I don't think this will happen. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 27, 2011, 02:36:09 AM
Have you read the article on Wikipedia about channel drift?

I remember back in the day when each cable channel had its own purpose.  They're all becoming the same, and, unfortunately, that "same" means sinking to the lowest common denominator to acquire the widest possible audience.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on August 27, 2011, 08:31:27 AM
I have my own Local on the Eights at the house with my weather station... it just doesn't have radar (but I sure wish it did  :cry3: )... I keep TWC on mainly for background sound now - when I'm not watching other news.

Oh, hasn't anyone thought of the idea that 24hr live weather was cut for longform *cough*bs*cough* because NBC didn't want to pay the OCM's to be on 24hr/day? I bet they're pissed now if that is the case...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 27, 2011, 12:18:33 PM
For those complaining about the LF not airing, why dont you guys even realize that this is a catastrophic situation going on in an area that hasnt seen conditions like this since 2003? At least give credit for TWC in preempting their long form all week and give them credit for doing their best on covering Irene.. its not the end of the world that you cannot get your local forecast on TV for petes sake... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on August 27, 2011, 12:19:51 PM
Longform: "WAA, WHY AREN'T THEY ON THE AIR???"

Actually covering the situation: "WAA, WHY AREN'T THEY SHOWING THE LF???"

So, you guys are :cry3: either way.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 27, 2011, 12:29:43 PM
For those complaining about the LF not airing, why dont you guys even realize that this is a catastrophic situation going on in an area that hasnt seen conditions like this since 2003? At least give credit for TWC in preempting their long form all week and give them credit for doing their best on covering Irene.. its not the end of the world that you cannot get your local forecast on TV for petes sake... :rolleyes:

 :clap: :clap: Just like I said in the general TWC discussion thread, viewers must not be complaining much or they would have gone back to showing the traditional local forecast by now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on August 27, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Would anyone happen to know the Ryan Farish song that was used in the February 2009 playlist? Also, is there a list of playlists somewhere? Unfortunately, Victor/Molly's channel was suspended, and that's where I've been hearing LF music for years, and I would like to get the names of the songs so I can find them on iTunes. Thank you anyone who can help.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 27, 2011, 01:28:34 PM
https://twctodayforums.com/music (https://twctodayforums.com/music)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 27, 2011, 01:49:42 PM
Of course, the only time my TV tuner works and the LF's are discontinued. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on August 27, 2011, 01:55:24 PM
Longform: "WAA, WHY AREN'T THEY ON THE AIR???"

Actually covering the situation: "WAA, WHY AREN'T THEY SHOWING THE LF???"

So, you guys are :cry3: either way.

I agree. I don't particularly care for the lack of actual LFs, but in the big scheme of things, it is no big deal. Let's be glad they are actually covering weather for a change, and not doing :30 updates with "Hurricane Irene is bearing down on the Carolinas, now back to Peter Lik (or Twist of Fate)."  :rofl2:

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on August 27, 2011, 02:05:01 PM
Now that I think about it... since they haven't been airing an actual LF during the event but one every 30min the other day... is Storm Alert music discontinued?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 27, 2011, 02:07:44 PM
Has anyone with DirecTV or Dish seen their IntelliStar advisory crawl activated?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 27, 2011, 02:08:55 PM
Has anyone with DirecTV or Dish seen their IntelliStar advisory crawl activated?
Its not activated on 24131  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 27, 2011, 02:15:12 PM
Now that I think about it... since they haven't been airing an actual LF during the event but one every 30min the other day... is Storm Alert music discontinued?

I think it's safe to say that the "Storm Alert" as we once knew it is discontinued, therefore the music probably doesn't exist anymore either. The only way to really know for sure is to have a CAT 3 or above hit the U.S. if TWC is really picky about when they want to activate it, but the extended coverage and amount of "red" we are seeing now is basically "Storm Alert," just without the name and special LF music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 27, 2011, 02:45:59 PM
You all need to think about this whole situation from a ratings point of view:  When there is boring weather, the long-form shows are more interesting to average people and draw better viewership than live weather coverage.  But when there is a hurricane making landfall, the live weather coverage draws far more interest than anything else.  All of these actions taken by TWC are exactly what you would expect if you consider their point of view.  Besides, the internet, a weather radio, and local news stations are becoming the best sources for local weather no matter what TWC shows on a LF.  I don't understand why there is so much complaining here. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on August 27, 2011, 03:30:48 PM
Thanks so much for the link, Zach. I don't know why I couldn't find that myself, lol. Again, thanks a lot. I can't wait to vastly expand my TWC music library on my iPod. I honestly didn't know TWCToday had a thing like this. Another reason to stay with the best.

I actually think TWC's plan for nonstop weather coverage is a good innovation. I just don't think Irene is the storm for it, but not a bad idea if we get another Ike, Katrina, Rita, etc. We haven't had a hurricane hit the US in nearly 3 years, so TWC is seizing the opportunity to make the most of it. I can't really blame them, as I would probably do the same thing if I were in their shoes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: bobalong on August 27, 2011, 03:35:49 PM
Longform: "WAA, WHY AREN'T THEY ON THE AIR???"

Actually covering the situation: "WAA, WHY AREN'T THEY SHOWING THE LF???"

So, you guys are :cry3: either way.

I agree. I don't particularly care for the lack of actual LFs, but in the big scheme of things, it is no big deal. Let's be glad they are actually covering weather for a change, and not doing :30 updates with "Hurricane Irene is bearing down on the Carolinas, now back to Peter Lik (or Twist of Fate)."  :rofl2:
30 seconds might give them just enough time to add that there could be damaging winds and storm surge. In all seriousness while I do miss the LF it's good to see TWC providing actual coverage of Irene, and if there's too much complaining about that coverage then they just might go back to longform. I will say I'm disappointed that they took Jim Cantore out of Rhode Island, so if I'm not mistaken there is now nobody reporting from New England.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on August 27, 2011, 05:08:29 PM
You all need to think about this whole situation from a ratings point of view:  When there is boring weather, the long-form shows are more interesting to average people and draw better viewership than live weather coverage

True, but I think many complain over Long-form because of the fact that it airs when there is a severe weather event occurring. If I am not mistaken, several wind gusts near hurricane force and several tornadoes touched down in Oklahoma for over 6hrs one night and all that was done was a quick update before going back to LFP.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 27, 2011, 05:23:09 PM
Just ask your provider to get WeatherScan (2nd best choice)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 28, 2011, 07:39:47 PM
Since the LFs aren't cueing because of Irene, does this mean the SA music is gone for good then?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 28, 2011, 07:45:17 PM
Since the LFs aren't cueing because of Irene, does this mean the SA music is gone for good then?

This has been asked several times. :yawn: We are not 100% sure, because TWC has not gone into a true "Storm Alert" mode since 2008. If a CAT 3 or higher hits the U.S. and they don't use the music, we'll know for sure. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 28, 2011, 07:53:17 PM
Since the LFs aren't cueing because of Irene, does this mean the SA music is gone for good then?

This has been asked several times. :yawn: We are not 100% sure, because TWC has not gone into a true "Storm Alert" mode since 2008. If a CAT 3 or higher hits the U.S. and they don't use the music, we'll know for sure. ;)

My bad then. Guess I wasn't paying attention  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcc_Dj0287 on August 28, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
For all of you missing the storm alert theme, I recorded this exactly six years ago today!

Clip 4 of Hurricane Katrina local forecast 8/28/05 7:08pm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVAwJjnenLY#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 28, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
For all of you missing the storm alert theme, I recorded this exactly six years ago today!

Clip 4 of Hurricane Katrina local forecast 8/28/05 7:08pm ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVAwJjnenLY#[/url])


Think there could have been any more statements on the Weather Bulletin? :P Wonder why they showed a blank page, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 28, 2011, 10:34:15 PM
The IStar came back at :28  :dance:  but it seems it's running the 90-second flavor. Hopefully the normal 2-minute flavor will be restored soon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 28, 2011, 10:42:31 PM
The IStar came back at :28  :dance:  but it seems it's running the 90-second flavor. Hopefully the normal 2-minute flavor will be restored soon.

Regular Schedule should start hopefully during YWT at 7am EDT/4am PDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on August 29, 2011, 04:56:44 AM
Just ask your provider to get WeatherScan (2nd best choice)
This is the only bad thing about the XL and older stars.  I haven't seen any type of local forecast for nearly 4 days. I so wish we had weatherscan! On another note: I actually seen a LF tonight at 328AM CDT but then after that they went back to the Lbar
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on August 29, 2011, 08:19:46 AM
As of 7:08am CT, L-Bar only, no LF...
Too bad I still have an XL, this is just making me mad now. I want to see the freaking STAR run for once.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 29, 2011, 11:10:46 AM
Saw an LF at 8:08AM PT. Looks like everything is back to normal   :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on August 29, 2011, 05:55:44 PM
For all of you missing the storm alert theme, I recorded this exactly six years ago today!

Clip 4 of Hurricane Katrina local forecast 8/28/05 7:08pm ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVAwJjnenLY#[/url])


Think there could have been any more statements on the Weather Bulletin? :P Wonder why they showed a blank page, though.


I was thinking the blank page was just due to the narration still going and it couldn't transition yet.  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on August 29, 2011, 05:59:11 PM
Morning or Daytime music playing at 5:58 PM EDT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 29, 2011, 06:31:32 PM
i will be uploading playlist clips from the HD feed whenever the new list starts. stay tuned!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on August 29, 2011, 06:47:10 PM
Saw an LF at 8:08AM PT. Looks like everything is back to normal   :biggrin:

Everything is now back in working and correct order. Welcome back, longform.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 29, 2011, 06:49:23 PM
Saw an LF at 8:08AM PT. Looks like everything is back to normal   :biggrin:

Everything is now back in working and correct order. Welcome back, longform.
Okay, but preemption is going on right now...  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on August 29, 2011, 06:57:09 PM
I could have sworn I saw a longform show on earlier!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on August 30, 2011, 11:47:47 AM
I love this jazzy primetime. Haven't heard such music since early 09

I like it too, even though it is kind of random.  :P It continued last night, with daytime and morning music being used in primetime.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 01, 2011, 10:51:12 AM
I hope the September playlist starts later today or tomorrow
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 01, 2011, 11:22:36 AM
It normally doesn't start this late in the week. It'll probably be some time after Labor Day, either Tuesday or Wednesday. Hopefully, it'll be before the 10th.  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 01, 2011, 12:05:24 PM
I hope the September playlist starts later today or tomorrow

It might start later today which might explain the random daypart confusion (playlist transition)

It normally doesn't start this late in the week. It'll probably be some time after Labor Day, either Tuesday or Wednesday. Hopefully, it'll be before the 10th.  ;)

I got confirmation that playlists are indeed Bi-Monthly, and that future playlists will start earlier in the month because of programming/content reasons. which is basically saying it could start anytime between now and the 10th (even a weekend start isn't out of the realm of possibility.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 03, 2011, 04:30:02 PM
Lee is seen from my regional radar

IntelliStar Forecast - September 3, 2011 - 11:18 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1_sOuejCkM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 05, 2011, 02:59:37 PM
Is anyone else's TWC feed of audio and video out of sync right now?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 05, 2011, 06:41:01 PM
Is anyone else's TWC feed of audio and video out of sync right now?


Yeah:
My Movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0qRfiyB5o#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 05, 2011, 07:35:34 PM
Pardon me if this has been answered countless times, but does anybody know why TWC's music is still a bit iffy? As for me, I haven't heard songs like "Supernova" since the playlist issue after Irene, and I just heard a morning song that I'm not too particularly fond of at 6:28 CT. Moreover, I'm just wondering if this will be fixed before/if a Sept. playlist gets released.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 05, 2011, 07:37:58 PM
Pardon me if this has been answered countless times, but does anybody know why TWC's music is still a bit iffy? As for me, I haven't heard songs like "Supernova" since the playlist issue after Irene, and I just heard a morning song that I'm not too particularly fond of at 6:28 CT. Moreover, I'm just wondering if this will be fixed before/if a Sept. playlist gets released.

The playlist issues must still be occurring

Is anyone else's TWC feed of audio and video out of sync right now?


Yeah:
My Movie ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0qRfiyB5o#[/url])
I dont think thats possible in what Trevor was describing, because in your video the audio of the output is out of sync (including the STAR audio).. because what he meant was just the national audio, in which STAR audio wouldnt be affected  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 05, 2011, 07:42:08 PM
Last week or so, I heard Supernova in the morning. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jazzlover93 on September 05, 2011, 07:48:47 PM
Last week or so, I heard Supernova in the morning. :blink:
That's crazy. Hopefully all these randomization issues are fixed once the September/October playlist rolls out.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 05, 2011, 07:59:54 PM
Is anyone else's TWC feed of audio and video out of sync right now?


Yeah:
My Movie ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0qRfiyB5o#[/url])
I dont think thats possible in what Trevor was describing, because in your video the audio of the output is out of sync (including the STAR audio).. because what he meant was just the national audio, in which STAR audio wouldnt be affected  :blink:


Actually, it was almost exactly what was featured in his video. Except mine was definitely an issue with my cable box, because when I rewound the DVR, it corrected itself.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 05, 2011, 08:02:41 PM
I'm wondering why Jung at Heart has been playing so rarely now. It used to play all the time, especially on 2:00 flavors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 05, 2011, 08:18:50 PM
Pardon me if this has been answered countless times, but does anybody know why TWC's music is still a bit iffy? As for me, I haven't heard songs like "Supernova" since the playlist issue after Irene, and I just heard a morning song that I'm not too particularly fond of at 6:28 CT. Moreover, I'm just wondering if this will be fixed before/if a Sept. playlist gets released.

There may have been copyright issues with some of the songs, which might explain why some songs are not playing or haven't been heard in awhile (removed from playlist).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 05, 2011, 09:03:08 PM
Pardon me if this has been answered countless times, but does anybody know why TWC's music is still a bit iffy? As for me, I haven't heard songs like "Supernova" since the playlist issue after Irene, and I just heard a morning song that I'm not too particularly fond of at 6:28 CT. Moreover, I'm just wondering if this will be fixed before/if a Sept. playlist gets released.

The playlist issues must still be occurring

Is anyone else's TWC feed of audio and video out of sync right now?


Yeah:
My Movie ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0qRfiyB5o#[/url])
I dont think thats possible in what Trevor was describing, because in your video the audio of the output is out of sync (including the STAR audio).. because what he meant was just the national audio, in which STAR audio wouldnt be affected  :blink:


I think my problem was related to Windows Media Center. Every time I run WMC it causes my computer to have a virtual stroke. It is really starting to tick me off, and I have no alternative other than the Pinnacle software that came with the tuner, which causes the computer to have a heart attack, a stroke, and then a clot (in such a case, the clot would come before the stroke or heart attack).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 05, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
Pardon me if this has been answered countless times, but does anybody know why TWC's music is still a bit iffy? As for me, I haven't heard songs like "Supernova" since the playlist issue after Irene, and I just heard a morning song that I'm not too particularly fond of at 6:28 CT. Moreover, I'm just wondering if this will be fixed before/if a Sept. playlist gets released.

There may have been copyright issues with some of the songs, which might explain why some songs are not playing or haven't been heard in awhile (removed from playlist).
That's absurd, I've never heard of such a thing happening. The least they can do is to revert back to the August/September 2010 playlist again. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 05, 2011, 10:19:06 PM
That's absurd, I've never heard of such a thing happening. The least they can do is to revert back to the August/September 2010 playlist again. :P

Not if TWC's rights to the music have already run out.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 05, 2011, 10:26:57 PM
I'm hoping they would run their rights out for the songs in this playlist. Would just be another reason for them to go back to monthlies
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 05, 2011, 10:36:32 PM
Pardon me if this has been answered countless times, but does anybody know why TWC's music is still a bit iffy? As for me, I haven't heard songs like "Supernova" since the playlist issue after Irene, and I just heard a morning song that I'm not too particularly fond of at 6:28 CT. Moreover, I'm just wondering if this will be fixed before/if a Sept. playlist gets released.

There may have been copyright issues with some of the songs, which might explain why some songs are not playing or haven't been heard in awhile (removed from playlist).

I could believe that, but I couldn't imagine them losing rights to Ryan Farish's music or Chris Geith for that matter, yet Explosions in the Sky, Boney James, and Craig Chaquico are still being used with no problems. I would think they would lose rights to these artists too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 05, 2011, 10:48:41 PM
I have a feeling the playlist could start tomorrow since it's the first Tuesday of the month. It could probably start in the overnight like the March/April and May/June lists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 06, 2011, 02:01:36 PM
I wonder how many members are really anticipating a new playlist  :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 06, 2011, 04:25:41 PM
I wonder how many members are really anticipating a new playlist  :bleh:
I am.  :yes: I am starting to wonder if the playlist won't start till the middle of the month. This was a good playlist, but it is time for a new one.  It has been on since July 5, and the longer it is on, the less likable the playlist becomes.  :yawn:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on September 06, 2011, 04:34:29 PM
I wonder how many members are really anticipating a new playlist  :bleh:
I am definitely! It should start by 5:08 (or 5:28 if longform airs). In the past 2 playlists, they would start on the first Tuesday of every other month, at the beginning of Primetime.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 06, 2011, 04:59:11 PM
I wonder how many members are really anticipating a new playlist  :bleh:
I am definitely! It should start by 5:08 (or 5:28 if longform airs). In the past 2 playlists, they would start on the first Tuesday of every other month, at the beginning of Primetime.

I guess we'll find out in the next 10 minutes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 06, 2011, 05:06:20 PM
Considering the July Playlist Started on the 5th i won't be surprised if the September airs between today and friday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 06, 2011, 05:10:02 PM
Same old playlist at 5:08 PM ET <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 06, 2011, 05:22:33 PM
I gotta confess, but I will miss the July playlist if the September one rolls around... i liked it and was a complete turnaround from May/Junes list and it actually had uplifting Boney James songs  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 06, 2011, 05:29:02 PM
New playlist has begun as of :28!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on September 06, 2011, 05:32:46 PM
New playlist has begun as of :28!
Hmm, I guess that TWC let the playlist start at 5:28 in case there was longform.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 06, 2011, 05:43:26 PM
New playlist has begun as of :28!
Hmm, I guess that TWC let the playlist start at 5:28 in case there was longform.
But :38 was Horizon :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 06, 2011, 05:44:12 PM
New playlist has begun as of :28!
Hmm, I guess that TWC let the playlist start at 5:28 in case there was longform.
But :38 was Horizon :dunno:

and :28 was She Loves The Water (which has been playing for days on primetime since irene,) there is no new playlist until i see the XLS file.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 06, 2011, 06:25:46 PM
Hopefully whenever the next playlist starts, TWC will continue this trend of jazzy primetimes, as it has since Irene. Horizon and She Loves the Water sound good in primetime.  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 07, 2011, 02:58:18 PM
I was watching a live TWC stream from PA on my sis' TV via Justin.tv on her Roku box, and I saw what looked like a graphics-updated WeatherStar XL. Can anyone tell me if this is real or if this is an emulator?

Pic provided from the actual video streaming site itself.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 07, 2011, 03:26:15 PM
Wow - this is very interesting!

On the one hand, I'd want to say it's an emulator that combines the look of the XL with the new SD satellite local forecast backgrounds, but it almost seems "too perfect."  The weather information is accurate and everything appears as it should.

Are there any other screenshots or videos available?  I guess, in the absence of someone coming forward to say that it's an emulator that he/she made, we'll just have to wait and see what our XL viewers in the forum say about what they observe happening to their local Stars.

And, of course, this raises the question... if this IS real, will the Intellistar soon be updated to match this background, too, thus providing a constant and similar look across three platforms?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 07, 2011, 03:28:16 PM
That's Chazz's emulator. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 07, 2011, 03:36:04 PM
Darn it - I think it's a great design!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 07, 2011, 03:56:37 PM
That's Chazz's emulator. ;)

Ah OK then. I wonder how they were able to get the emulator to run simultaneously with the LF while streaming the TWC feed live on JTV    :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 07, 2011, 04:08:59 PM
It's an actual XL using custom graphics...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 07, 2011, 04:12:24 PM
It's an actual XL using custom graphics...

Oh I see now. Thanks Zach  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 07, 2011, 04:24:32 PM
There's something I don't understand. Why is it that the phrase "Near record high/low temperatures expected" never shows up on my IntelliStar? I always see the record low/high screen, but never that phrase on the text local forecast. For example TWC is forecasting 55 tonight which would break the record low of 56 set back in 1984, I'm seeing that record low screen, but I'm not seeing that phrase being used on the text forecast. I've seen it on other IntelliStars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 07, 2011, 08:29:48 PM
It's an actual XL using custom graphics...


Are you talking about the "graphically updated XL?"
If so, I don't think that statement is correct.

Albuquerque Dust Storm - WeatherSTAR XL V4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1yKCCBTYaI#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 07, 2011, 08:41:36 PM
It's an actual XL using custom graphics...


Are you talking about the "graphically updated XL?"
If so, I don't think that statement is correct.

Albuquerque Dust Storm - WeatherSTAR XL V4 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1yKCCBTYaI#[/url])

No. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do4WmJsqqT4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 07, 2011, 08:55:45 PM
Quote from: Description of Video
V4 Graphics courtesy of The Weather Chazz.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 07, 2011, 09:00:07 PM
Right, but the video I posted is an actual XL. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 07, 2011, 09:13:04 PM
Right, but the video I posted is an actual XL. :rolleyes:

There may be an actual XL in the video but the "graphically enhanced" part of it is not a real XL unit. Chazz gave him the project code, if I am not mistaken.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 07, 2011, 09:38:26 PM
Right, but the video I posted is an actual XL. :rolleyes:

There may be an actual XL in the video but the "graphically enhanced" part of it is not a real XL unit. Chazz gave him the project code, if I am not mistaken.
No, it is all from his unit. the only thing Chazz did was give him the graphics... it is part of the XL unit
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 07, 2011, 09:39:01 PM
1. Chazz made new graphics
2. He sent them to this person who already had an XL v3 unit
3. He put Chazz's graphics into his personal XL unit, much in the same way that TWC updates STAR Graphics

End of story. Zach is right. (OT: I'm typing on my iPad and Zach is autocorreting to Zachary :blink:)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 07, 2011, 09:42:35 PM
Glad you're all smart enough to do such things. I wouldn't know how to do that like I don't know the answer to x times x devided by y without numbers.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 07, 2011, 09:45:53 PM
Trust me, I definitely could NOT do any such a think with an XL, much less get it functioning or succesfully complete a graphics overhaul...I just read the video description.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 07, 2011, 10:02:25 PM
I wish I could find an XL already. The only ones I have come across are broken, the harddrives are out, or the system refuses to boot. Besides, I'd like to know how the people who have one connect to their television. Coaxial cable?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on September 08, 2011, 10:58:52 AM
New Ryan Farish song at 9:58 CT!! I do believe it was "Kiss of Life."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 08, 2011, 11:13:06 AM
New Ryan Farish song at 9:58 CT!! I do believe it was "Kiss of Life."

you could create the Sept/Oct 2011 Playlist thread ya know :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on September 08, 2011, 11:21:46 AM
New Ryan Farish song at 9:58 CT!! I do believe it was "Kiss of Life."

you could create the Sept/Oct 2011 Playlist thread ya know :P
LOL, I suppose I could.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcc_Master Marik on September 08, 2011, 02:43:06 PM
How long has the little note underneath the forecast conditions for the 7-day outlook (as an example, they had a little note about hurricane conditions possible in the days before Hurricane Irene hit and the day where the conditions were possible had a red rectangle around it) been there? It just suddenly appeared like a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 08, 2011, 02:57:37 PM
How long has the little note underneath the forecast conditions for the 7-day outlook (as an example, they had a little note about hurricane conditions possible in the days before Hurricane Irene hit and the day where the conditions were possible had a red rectangle around it) been there? It just suddenly appeared like a few weeks ago.

About 6 weeks.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 12, 2011, 02:02:25 PM
TWC sure loves to recycle old stock footage, this looks like the same stock footage they used of the lady waiting in the rain for a taxi from the "Live By It" era  decade ago.

(http://thumbnails50.imagebam.com/14917/864392149162818.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/864392149162818)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 12, 2011, 04:29:54 PM
TWC sure loves to recycle old stock footage, this looks like the same stock footage they used of the lady waiting in the rain for a taxi from the "Live By It" era  decade ago.

([url]http://thumbnails50.imagebam.com/14917/864392149162818.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.imagebam.com/image/864392149162818[/url])


Why, oh why, couldn't we see said era again? This was their best, always will have been.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 12, 2011, 05:30:27 PM
Omg yeah, before 9/11 I would always see that promo on air! I loved the graphics, music and the scene with the lady waiting for a taxi in the rain. Live by It brings back great memories, definitely some goodtimes for twc and the world alike
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 12, 2011, 06:08:44 PM
TWC sure loves to recycle old stock footage, this looks like the same stock footage they used of the lady waiting in the rain for a taxi from the "Live By It" era  decade ago.

([url]http://thumbnails50.imagebam.com/14917/864392149162818.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.imagebam.com/image/864392149162818[/url])


Why, oh why, couldn't we see said era again? This was their best, always will have been.


I'm feeling nostalgic now.
I really miss Evening Edition. I think it is still a load of trash they knocked it off air.

Stephen Arnold - The Weather Channel Evening Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSGS6WRPRU0#)
Stephen Arnold - The Weather Channel Montage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT3qR_R-Scs#)
Weather Channel Cable/Satellite Station ID Backgrounds 2004-2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QObB4vjUNAU#)
The Weather Channel's Show Openers (2003 -2005) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoT-ZlqzCv0#)
Evening Edition 2003-2005 Music Segment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT2QrIO57eg#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on September 12, 2011, 07:13:55 PM
Today the L-Bar has cued for every LF, with the exception of LFs at :28 and :58. Wonder if this is going to become a permanent thing?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on September 12, 2011, 07:22:42 PM
Today the L-Bar has cued for every LF, with the exception of LFs at :28 and :58. Wonder if this is going to become a permanent thing?

I hope not, it's better when it is full screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jrhtwc on September 12, 2011, 07:55:58 PM
Today the L-Bar has cued for every LF, with the exception of LFs at :28 and :58. Wonder if this is going to become a permanent thing?

It's even happening during WCL! This is odd! It's  nice seeing 1 more minute of live coverage however.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 12, 2011, 08:12:32 PM
I will be in contact with someone at NBC/TWC if it does. I was noticing the same and was confused.

And what exactly are you going to do? You expect them to take you seriously? :dunno: They'll probably put you on hold and laugh at you.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on September 12, 2011, 10:26:16 PM
No, actually... I can't see the difference between the two pictures of the crater because it's the size of a Picture in Picture on my 42" HDTV because of the L-bar. I officially hate the L-bar. :thumbdown: It makes me want to hit Exit on my remote because I think the program guide is on if I'm not paying attention and look over.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on September 12, 2011, 10:52:55 PM
I don't see the point of the L-Bar. Just to get a minute and a half of more coverage? Really??? TWC must be really desperate. It seems that this would be a permanent thing. Looks like we may need to take some action  :club:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 12, 2011, 11:08:42 PM
I don't think it's going to be a permanent thing. They were just trying to expand their coverage of the flooding, I'm sure. I can also assure you that any action we would take would be a joke.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 12, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
TWC sure loves to recycle old stock footage, this looks like the same stock footage they used of the lady waiting in the rain for a taxi from the "Live By It" era  decade ago.

([url]http://thumbnails50.imagebam.com/14917/864392149162818.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.imagebam.com/image/864392149162818[/url])


Why, oh why, couldn't we see said era again? This was their best, always will have been.


I think the late 1980s-early 1990s was TWC's best era.  Great OCMs and beyond superb weather coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ap215 on September 12, 2011, 11:20:06 PM
I also hope this won't be a permanent thing this was the one thing since the 80's i became a fan of the TWC the musicals.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 12, 2011, 11:58:47 PM
I don't see the point of the L-Bar. Just to get a minute and a half of more coverage? Really??? TWC must be really desperate. It seems that this would be a permanent thing. Looks like we may need to take some action  :club:

Taking action is not going to help. ;) Most likely the use of the L-Bar is due to flooding coverage that will, obviously once again, boost their ratings. However, is there also a possibility that TWC thinks (or knows) viewers will tune-in if they extend their live coverage by scaling down on the LOT8s? I know to us its horrific, but we did say we would prefer more weather coverage, especially if it ads up over the hour. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 13, 2011, 01:25:42 AM
The L-bar trend is continuing on the 1 am edition of WCL. I sure hope this is just a test, because it would be utterly ridiculous to only have two LFs per hour, and a waste of a good playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on September 13, 2011, 01:49:56 AM
The L-Bar during Irene actually made sense. Someone at TWC mentioned to me that with the feed being broadcast over Sirus/XM, the L-Bar allowed them to better serve that audience. With the L-Bar people only listening by audio were not interrupted by three minutes of smooth jazz. Not sure what the incentive is now though
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 13, 2011, 08:11:58 AM
If one of the two actually happened (1: XL's, 4000's, Jr's are all replaced by IStar) or (2: Support for L-Bar would be added for XL), I wouldn't mind the L-Bar every now and then. I would definitely miss the music, but I'd at least get a LOCAL forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 13, 2011, 08:13:46 AM
I really don't mind if the lbar is on daily, it makes playlist uploading harder but that's why I got them all up the 1st 2 days before this occurred
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 13, 2011, 09:10:12 AM
I don't think the playlist are going away. At least we have the 2 min lfs..the :08s and :18 locals are already shortened, so recording them would make no sense anyways
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 13, 2011, 10:56:53 AM
Guys, I know a lot of you absolutely love to follow the playlist, but I really don't think that's something most viewers care about. So I don't think TWC is thinking twice about removing normally scheduled LOT8s just because they would reduce the playlist to twice an hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 13, 2011, 11:09:21 AM
Well, obviously, I don't think the playlists would be discontinued because they just released a new one. I must say that I'd be pretty bummed if I didn't see a full screen local forecast at every :8's, but I'll manage. They're doing what they think is best. It might not even be permanent, for all I know.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 13, 2011, 11:21:15 AM
Now I know why I was told the playlist would start earlier in the month for content and programming purpouses (Squeezeback)  I won't be surprised if more things will be added during programming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 13, 2011, 11:25:15 AM
If they seriously even remotely considered getting rid of the LOT8s format, they just wasted a VERY considerable amount of time and money working on a new HD STAR that is not only been around for a little over a year, but is still not widely available to everyone.

If that truly became the case, that time, money and resources could have been spent working on a flashy and stylish local forecast squeezeback, oh wait.... :unsure: :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 13, 2011, 11:36:10 AM
When I turned on to TWC during WUWA, I didn't see the L-bar. I saw a LF, oddly used at :39, but I would assume that there were five other LFs used during that hour. Now during Day Planner, it's back! I really don't care for the two LFs per hour, but as WeatherWitness said, TWC is obviously not worried about reducing their music LFs, and perhaps these new viewers don't care either. But I know that the music is partly what attracted me and many others to TWC. For TWC to reduce their LFs to twice an hour, if it is permanent, IMO, is the cherry on the sundae in terms of the deterioration of TWC over the last few years.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 13, 2011, 11:45:52 AM
If they seriously even remotely considered getting rid of the LOT8s format, they just wasted a VERY considerable amount of time and money working on a new HD STAR that is not only been around for a little over a year, but is still not widely available to everyone.

Welcome to the corporate world!  I can't tell you how many ghastly money-wasting ideas have been implemented, only to be changed or outright cancelled almost immediately where I work.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 13, 2011, 11:48:00 AM
But I know that the music is partly what attracted me and many others to TWC. For TWC to reduce their LFs to twice an hour, if it is permanent, IMO, is the cherry on the sundae in terms of the deterioration of TWC over the last few years.

I haven't been a fan of the music on TWC for about 20 years.  It's the information in the local forecast that I'm after.  A squeezeback is good in case of an emergency so that more live coverage can be broadcast, but, otherwise, I can't think of any good reason to reduce the number of actual local forecasts... unless TWC is trying to even further deemphasize its original mission.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCC_VernonMetcalf on September 13, 2011, 02:00:44 PM
When I turned on to TWC during WUWA, I didn't see the L-bar. I saw a LF, oddly used at :39, but I would assume that there were five other LFs used during that hour. Now during Day Planner, it's back! I really don't care for the two LFs per hour, but as WeatherWitness said, TWC is obviously not worried about reducing their music LFs, and perhaps these new viewers don't care either. But I know that the music is partly what attracted me and many others to TWC. For TWC to reduce their LFs to twice an hour, if it is permanent, IMO, is the cherry on the sundae in terms of the deterioration of TWC over the last few years.
Regular LFs were shown during Your Weather Today, as well.

With some headends using the legacy STARs; ironically, the lack of LFs should have been a violation against FCC standards.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 13, 2011, 02:53:56 PM
With some headends using the legacy STARs; ironically, the lack of LFs should have been a violation against FCC standards.

While I agree with you in theory, I don't think there's actually any FCC regulation requiring any cable network to display weather warnings.  What the FCC does require, however, is that the display of local weather warnings be accompanied by an audible tone.  This is why the WeatherStar III had to be retired: it was capable of producing a tone (assuming it still worked on any given unit) only during the first display of a warning, but not on any subsequent warnings.  An upgrade to conform to FCC regulations would have been too expensive and time-consuming for a 20-year-old computer system.

By its nature, the national feed local forecast/L-bar/LDL can only give so much information.  Even when it shows weather advisories and warnings on a national map, they're not detailed enough to warrant the warning tone: a tone for a tornado warning in ABC county in Texas would be not only worthless, but actually "crying wolf" for a viewer in XYZ County in Montana watching the national feed forecast.

I do agree with you 100%, though, that the loss of non-Intellistar LDLs and the lack of non-Intellistar L-bars is a major drawback for TWC's viewership.  Non-Intellistars are now able to broadcast anything (not counting weather advisories) only during regular local forecast segments - and those are becoming fewer and fewer in number, apparently.  While the Intellistar is used in a lot of headends, it's not used everywhere, leaving so many TWC viewers without their own local weather for large amounts of time.  The "tune to Weatherscan instead" argument doesn't even work, considering how few people have it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on September 13, 2011, 04:39:17 PM
I really could care less about the music at all. I just want the information the LOT8's provides. The squeezeback needs to be redone if they're going to continue using it on a constant basis. There's a lot of empty screen space that could be utilized with information, especially on the HD feed. Just my opinion. I also don't like that the people who have XL's, etc still don't get the local info on a squeezeback. I have friends that live in Carbondale, KS with Mediacom. They don't have an Intellistar. That means they rarely get local weather information. I'm just lucky I have Weatherscan here in Topeka.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 13, 2011, 06:27:36 PM
The "tune to Weatherscan instead" argument doesn't even work, considering how few people have it.

Thank you so much for mentioning this, Eric. :thumbsup: I am tired of hearing how people always say "If you don't have a LOT8s, then you can always tune to WeatherScan" because it is not available for all cable companies!


Question: Does YWT transition directly from live coverage to LOT8s?

Here's something I've thought of. The use of normal LOT8s during peak shows (such as WUWA and YWT) and the squeezeback during less peak shows such as DP kind of reminds me of what they did with the big (33%) LDL when they had it. The LOT8s is used normally during peak shows because viewership is high (this unfortunately does NOT explain why it is not used on WCL). On the contrary, the squeezeback is used on less peak shows. Just a theory...

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 13, 2011, 06:50:05 PM
Like i said before anyone who has an XL is basically like someone who can't access the internet for weather = screwed because now we know TWC loves the 2mins at 28/58 just for extra weather coverage during other times of the schedule.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 13, 2011, 06:52:02 PM
The "tune to Weatherscan instead" argument doesn't even work, considering how few people have it.

Thank you so much for mentioning this, Eric. :thumbsup: I am tired of hearing how people always say "If you don't have a LOT8s, then you can always tune to WeatherScan" because it is not available for all cable companies!


Question: Does YWT transition directly from live coverage to LOT8s?
-Yes, but IDK if it's for every LF though.

Here's something I've thought of. The use of normal LOT8s during peak shows (such as WUWA and YWT) and the squeezeback during less peak shows such as DP kind of reminds me of what they did with the big (33%) LDL when they had it. The LOT8s is used normally during peak shows because viewership is high (this unfortunately does NOT explain why it is not used on WCL). On the contrary, the squeezeback is used on less peak shows. Just a theory...

Good theory, but like you said that doesn't really explain why WCL was using the squeezeback last night. I thought WCL was a fairly high rated show. In fact I thought only DP was the lowest rated because it comes on during the day when most people are not at home.

As for Weatherscan: Try this for worst case scenario, How about having Weatherscan available in your area, but you can't watch it because the Crapfinity wants to screw you out of as much money as possible by pushing it up on a higher, more expensive digital cable package than you had before which they have done once before in the past. <_< And this is even better, they leave us with a defunct NBC Weatherplus station that only shows a radar w/ no sound and both of these channels are on the lineup right next to eachother! :facepalm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 13, 2011, 07:22:39 PM
I'm going to be pissed though if this is indeed the format they're going to stick with for the long-run though. I thought the NBC corps mentioned the Local on the 8s are an integral and vital part of the network? Nowadays, I only watch TWC to listen to the music and to check my weather forecast - all of which are in the LOT8s. If they are planning on permanently removing the LOT8s, then playlists will probably be at jeopardy. While I don't think there's a danger to the playlists yet, I can't think what TWC would be without the playlists then. I'm sure many artists would be bummed
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 13, 2011, 07:48:30 PM
I never knew a lot of the artists on TWC until their songs premiered on the LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 13, 2011, 08:03:11 PM
I smell a lawsuit :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 13, 2011, 08:04:53 PM
I smell a lawsuit :P

I think I do, too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on September 13, 2011, 09:10:56 PM
I don't see the point of the L-Bar. Just to get a minute and a half of more coverage? Really??? TWC must be really desperate. It seems that this would be a permanent thing. Looks like we may need to take some action  :club:

Taking action is not going to help. ;) Most likely the use of the L-Bar is due to flooding coverage that will, obviously once again, boost their ratings. However, is there also a possibility that TWC thinks (or knows) viewers will tune-in if they extend their live coverage by scaling down on the LOT8s? I know to us its horrific, but we did say we would prefer more weather coverage, especially if it ads up over the hour. :thinking:
But do you think extending the coverage by a minute and 30 seconds really helps? :dunno: No offense but I don't think they need to keep doing extensive coverage on the flooding. The rain (for the most part) has stopped and most of the rivers have receded below flood stage. Of course the destruction caused is terrible, but just to get a minute and 30 seconds more or coverage? I know that it adds up to the amount of coverage but I don't think it's all too necessary just for the coverage of flooding. Btw, I didn't really mean that we needed to take action, just joking  :rofl2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ap215 on September 14, 2011, 11:17:08 AM
I've noticed one change they've done since this new format started no vocals which i watched Wake Up With Al they use to do vocal segments during the local on the 8's and now that's gone and as far as a lawsuit goes as Local just mentioned yeah i sense it too as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 14, 2011, 01:54:23 PM
I smell a lawsuit :P

I agree, because these artists will end up wasting their time and money in recording and submitting music to TWC. As I said earlier, having only two LFs defeats the purpose of even having a playlist. What is the use of having a playlist if several songs end up not being played? Plus, those who don't have Intellistar will have no idea what is going on in their area.  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 14, 2011, 03:25:05 PM
If it's permanent, one of three scenarios could happen:

1) The playlists will be discontinued
2) They will switch to 1 or 2 production songs, similiar to what TWN has
3) The playlists will be reduced. There's no way I can see them continuing 40+ song playlists if they are only showing 2 LF's. Besides, the playlists are already full of repeats. This would just solve the repeat issue as well
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 14, 2011, 03:56:30 PM
Where in the hell are you guys getting this info that the :08/:18/:38/:48 LFs were discontinued? There were LFs at 5:38, 5:48, and 6:08 this morning :huh:

EDIT: whoa... i see what you guys mean now :blink: squeezeback @ 4:08 PM ET
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 14, 2011, 04:31:28 PM
The squeezeback has been on since this morning. I don't know about overnight though..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 14, 2011, 04:37:33 PM
The squeezeback has been on since this morning. I don't know about overnight though..

It was last night, I was kinda surprised.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 14, 2011, 05:04:28 PM
The LF's have basically been discontinued on normal programming excluding WUWA and YWT because of the current testing. just be lucky the :28 and :58 haven't been removed yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 14, 2011, 05:21:29 PM
Where in the hell are you guys getting this info that the :08/:18/:38/:48 LFs were discontinued? There were LFs at 5:38, 5:48, and 6:08 this morning :huh:

EDIT: whoa... i see what you guys mean now :blink: squeezeback @ 4:08 PM ET

Where've you been, Zach? :P

The LF's have basically been discontinued on normal programming excluding WUWA and YWT because of the current testing. just be lucky the :28 and :58 haven't been removed yet.

Now I just can't see that happening. That seems like such a waste with the IS2 and LOT8s promotion (done a couple of years ago). These half-hour LOT8s are kind of like the "live weather update" during long-form, with the "live weather" being specific to your area (unless you have the National Feed).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: spinnerwv on September 14, 2011, 05:38:45 PM
I wonder what is going through the minds of the cable companies that use the XL and other units.  Now they got an unit costing over $6,000 that now will only show a local forecast twice an hour and a cable ID.  TWC needs to either upgrade the units to produce a L bar forecast or replace the units with the intellistar(at no cost to the cable provider).  I wouldn't be surprised that these cable operators take legal action against Comcast or drop TWC from their line-up.   

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 14, 2011, 06:36:07 PM
TWC has made some dumb decisions over the years (Flick and a Forecast, Peter Lik, "Primed for Excitement", rock music, longform, etc), but this really takes the cake. For all I care, they may eventually drop the LOT8s altogether in the future. There needs to be a petition to return LFs on the 8s of each hour during live programming, as there was a petition to return smooth jazz to TWC. If this two LF per hour trend continues, I will no longer tune in to TWC, because it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to wait til :28 or :58 for a true local forecast.  :club:  I really hope they weren't naive enough to believe that our request for more weather coverage meant at the expense of locals.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on September 14, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
I totally agree with you TampaMillTWC88. We need to sign a petition, each of us, although we would need a lot of people, maybe more than everyone on this site. Who knows, I'm just hoping this isn't a permanent thing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 14, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
Here's where to start the petition (http://www.care2.com/create/start-petition)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on September 14, 2011, 07:51:34 PM
Here's where to start the petition ([url]http://www.care2.com/create/start-petition[/url])

I don't want to start it, I want to make sure I have all right info before I make it. If someone else can make it, I would be glad.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 14, 2011, 08:27:43 PM
In light of recent events, I have decided to review a few of my videos but found instead a few good songs that TWC aired. I think they need to air "Push to Start" by Paul Taylor, "Perfect Clarity" by Ryan Farish, and "One More Time" by Brian Simpson.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 14, 2011, 09:11:53 PM
Guys, I'm just going to be frank: this is really getting out-of-hand. First off, we don't know 100% if this is even going to be permanent. Alex said they were just "testing" something.

Second of all, I highly doubt a petition is going to help at all. TWC employees have (or at least should have) more important things to do than read a petition trying to save the LOT8s.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jrhtwc on September 14, 2011, 09:21:04 PM
Guys, I'm just going to be frank: this is really getting out-of-hand. First off, we don't know 100% if this is even going to be permanent. Alex said they were just "testing" something.

Second of all, I highly doubt a petition is going to help at all. TWC employees have (or at least should have) more important things to do than read a petition trying to save the LOT8s.

Like getting the L Bar and LDL back on longfrom!  I know TWC can do it if they want to. Saw it Sat night.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 14, 2011, 11:13:30 PM
No one believed me, but I said a while back (and I'm not going to look it up) that with the L-bar, TWC will probably start using that to replace the local forecast segments.  And... it looks like they're testing just that.

If they're going to rely on the L-bar (and the occasional LDL alone) for "local forecasts," I wish they'd at least bring back the expanded LDL.  That would give us more information - precious little as it is already without the full local forecast.

And everyone's right about non-Intellistar viewers - those poor people are really missing out on their local weather.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on September 15, 2011, 12:35:50 AM
Guys, I'm just going to be frank: this is really getting out-of-hand. First off, we don't know 100% if this is even going to be permanent. Alex said they were just "testing" something.

Second of all, I highly doubt a petition is going to help at all. TWC employees have (or at least should have) more important things to do than read a petition trying to save the LOT8s.

I'm not trying to be rude at all, in any way, but I'm honestly waiting for someone to say they're contacting a senator.

Lawsuits, trying to call a corporate office... and now petitions? Come on, guys. It sucks, it's annoying, I'm not a fan of it at all... but I honestly think most of you are more mad about the lack of music than the lack of local weather. It's The Weather Channel, not MTV. I've never talked to anyone, ever, that cared about the music they play during the LOT8's (including me) until I found this forum. They want to see the radar and what the forecast is. Let's face it, most of us are diehard TWC fans or we wouldn't care about coming to this forum. The majority of the viewing population is not. The best way to let them know you'd like the LOT8's back is to use their Feedback or Contact Us pages on weather.com.

Again, I'm not trying to be rude... but let's calm down a bit here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mr. Rainman on September 15, 2011, 10:21:25 AM
I agree with Kev on this one. Besides, as sad as it is, petitions are not nearly as effective as you think they are. Just because all of us may have signed it and passed it on to the desk of the producers and TWC doesn't mean they are obligated to make that change. Let's be honest: we're an extremely small percentage of the viewers of TWC at any given day. Just 50 or 60 signatures won't do anything. To make them even consider, you need signatures probably in the thousands.

This is one of those situations where you calm down and you deal with change. If you don't like it, if you absolutely can't stand it, then don't watch. It's that simple. I made that decision months ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 15, 2011, 11:05:41 AM
and they must be testing this for reasons we don't even know about.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 15, 2011, 02:15:09 PM
I got word that it's still testing due to viewer feedback. It's mist likely going to be a permanent change but if we do complain, they'll yank the lbar locals out
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on September 15, 2011, 02:21:13 PM
I got word that it's still testing due to viewer feedback. It's mist likely going to be a permanent change but if we do complain, they'll yank the lbar locals out
I just got a reply back too.
"Effective Mon, 9/12, we started using a squeeze back Local on the 8s during most live programming at :08, :18, :38 and :48.  Full screen locals will remain as is at :28 / :58. It is most likely a permanent change, although we do continue to monitor viewer feedback. I will be sure to forward your note to our Locals team.
Thank you for letting us know what you think."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 15, 2011, 02:30:13 PM
I got word that it's still testing due to viewer feedback. It's mist likely going to be a permanent change but if we do complain, they'll yank the lbar locals out
I just got a reply back too.
"Effective Mon, 9/12, we started using a squeeze back Local on the 8s during most live programming at :08, :18, :38 and :48.  Full screen locals will remain as is at :28 / :58. It is most likely a permanent change, although we do continue to monitor viewer feedback. I will be sure to forward your note to our Locals team.
Thank you for letting us know what you think."

 :cry3: :cry3: :cry3:

What possible benefit do they think this has?  For viewers who actually watch The Weather Channel for weather information, very little.  Unfortunately, this isn't the audience TWC is interested in anymore.  :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on September 15, 2011, 02:38:07 PM
I got word that it's still testing due to viewer feedback. It's mist likely going to be a permanent change but if we do complain, they'll yank the lbar locals out
I just got a reply back too.
"Effective Mon, 9/12, we started using a squeeze back Local on the 8s during most live programming at :08, :18, :38 and :48.  Full screen locals will remain as is at :28 / :58. It is most likely a permanent change, although we do continue to monitor viewer feedback. I will be sure to forward your note to our Locals team.
Thank you for letting us know what you think."

 :cry3: :cry3: :cry3:

What possible benefit do they think this has?  For viewers who actually watch The Weather Channel for weather information, very little.  Unfortunately, this isn't the audience TWC is interested in anymore.  :(
I know. I would watch it a lot to get my local info and I liked most of the music as well, but since I can only get my local info at 28/58.. I will most likely get my weather information elsewhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 15, 2011, 02:40:48 PM
I got word that it's still testing due to viewer feedback. It's mist likely going to be a permanent change but if we do complain, they'll yank the lbar locals out
I just got a reply back too.
"Effective Mon, 9/12, we started using a squeeze back Local on the 8s during most live programming at :08, :18, :38 and :48.  Full screen locals will remain as is at :28 / :58. It is most likely a permanent change, although we do continue to monitor viewer feedback. I will be sure to forward your note to our Locals team.
Thank you for letting us know what you think."

 :cry3: :cry3: :cry3:

What possible benefit do they think this has?  For viewers who actually watch The Weather Channel for weather information, very little.  Unfortunately, this isn't the audience TWC is interested in anymore.  :(
I know. I would watch it a lot to get my local info and I liked most of the music as well, but since I can only get my local info at 28/58.. I will most likely get my weather information elsewhere.

Ah well, just another reason not to rely on the Weather Channel for real weather anymore. If the message wasn't clear before, it surely is now, with a big exclamation point. Not a big deal in the big scheme of things, but it is certainly a real bummer for loyal TWC viewers. It bothered me at first, but at this point, I really don't even care if they drop music and/or LFs altogether (which I guarantee they'll do in the future). Life moves on. There are other sources to find out weather.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 15, 2011, 02:44:28 PM
Thank god I'm not a meteorology major. TWC would be the last place I would use to check my local weather info..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 15, 2011, 03:06:02 PM
I got word that it's still testing due to viewer feedback. It's mist likely going to be a permanent change but if we do complain, they'll yank the lbar locals out
I just got a reply back too.
"Effective Mon, 9/12, we started using a squeeze back Local on the 8s during most live programming at :08, :18, :38 and :48.  Full screen locals will remain as is at :28 / :58. It is most likely a permanent change, although we do continue to monitor viewer feedback. I will be sure to forward your note to our Locals team.
Thank you for letting us know what you think."

 :cry3: :cry3: :cry3:

What possible benefit do they think this has?  For viewers who actually watch The Weather Channel for weather information, very little.  Unfortunately, this isn't the audience TWC is interested in anymore.  :(
I know. I would watch it a lot to get my local info and I liked most of the music as well, but since I can only get my local info at 28/58.. I will most likely get my weather information elsewhere.

Ah well, just another reason not to rely on the Weather Channel for real weather anymore. If the message wasn't clear before, it surely is now, with a big exclamation point. Not a big deal in the big scheme of things, but it is certainly a real bummer for loyal TWC viewers. It bothered me at first, but at this point, I really don't even care if they drop music and/or LFs altogether (which I guarantee they'll do in the future). Life moves on. There are other sources to find out weather.

I believe that's doubtful, I don't think it will get any more radical with changes than it has already w/ the LF squeezeback. I don't see the :28/:58 forecasts going anywhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 15, 2011, 03:38:07 PM
Looks like TWC got what they wished for with the change = viewership   IStar/IS2 and satellite will get the 1:00 or 1:30 depending on content (no new sceens will be added) and the XL will get nothing relating to the squeezeback
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 15, 2011, 04:20:02 PM
TWC employees have (or at least should have) more important things to do than read a petition trying to save the LOT8s.

I went all over with this post, please try to follow along.  :rolleyes:

Here is my thing about the LOT8's. It was a revolution for its time. It was great, until the internet came along. People began going online to get their weather. Yes, most have a computer, but for those who don't (or the elderly, for an example), they need local weather information! Perhaps they could get it at the 5pm news, but it is only current for that moment. Those with an XL - out of luck. Those with a 4000 - out of luck. If TWC isn't going to provide WEATHER or force an IStar upgrade (decommission XL, 4K, and Jr), they need to go off the air, or make it a permanent channel meant for one thing that turned into another (aka., MTV, VH1, etc.) - CRAP.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mr. Rainman on September 15, 2011, 04:48:09 PM
Thank god I'm not a meteorology major. TWC would be the last place I would use to check my local weather info..

I'm confused. What does a meteorology major have to do with this?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 15, 2011, 05:36:13 PM
TWC employees have (or at least should have) more important things to do than read a petition trying to save the LOT8s.

I went all over with this post, please try to follow along.  :rolleyes:

Here is my thing about the LOT8's. It was a revolution for its time. It was great, until the internet came along. People began going online to get their weather. Yes, most have a computer, but for those who don't (or the elderly, for an example), they need local weather information! Perhaps they could get it at the 5pm news, but it is only current for that moment. Those with an XL - out of luck. Those with a 4000 - out of luck. If TWC isn't going to provide WEATHER or force an IStar upgrade (decommission XL, 4K, and Jr), they need to go off the air, or make it a permanent channel meant for one thing that turned into another (aka., MTV, VH1, etc.) - CRAP.

Yup. You forgot to add Nickelodeon, TLC, and Disney to that list. No TV channel is the same now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 15, 2011, 07:26:24 PM
Thank god I'm not a meteorology major. TWC would be the last place I would use to check my local weather info..

I'm confused. What does a meteorology major have to do with this?
cuz that's where I actually had a passion of the weather, from observing and learning the weather information that was displayed on my XL and IS over the years. Also, if I was majoring in meteorology I would be inclined to check the LOT8s more often for weather forecasts and observations.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 15, 2011, 07:39:21 PM
I don't hate the squeezeback, but I just see it to be an unnecessary feature, as--well, in my case--it's hard to see the pictures and weather info TWC is displaying with the squeezeback. Plus, I just don't see how people will watch what TWC is airing while they are trying to see the local forecast. I think the squeezeback is less attractive, and I think more people like the background music than some would think. (I've even seen TWC on at gas stations because of the local forecast during storms.) We can rant all we want, but that's not going to change anything. Either we can accept the changes or watch a different channel. I honestly find the local news to provide much better, more accurate weather info as it is specifically designated to you a specific area. I will miss the local forecast every 10 minutes if this is a permanent thing. It's a pretty big change for me, but, like I said, we can either just roll with it or not because complaining won't do a thing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 15, 2011, 07:47:18 PM
TWC needs to provide to everybody a Weatherscan unit. That way, we get to hear the music AND get our LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 15, 2011, 07:47:34 PM
It's too distracting as well. I don't know whether to check the local weather information or to check the weather coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 15, 2011, 08:05:18 PM
I bet this won't be permanent, TWC is just trying to scare you  :P

My honest opinion it will be gone in the next couple weeks and we could put this little charade to rest.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 15, 2011, 09:01:13 PM
I bet this won't be permanent, TWC is just trying to scare you  :P

My honest opinion it will be gone in the next couple weeks and we could put this little charade to rest.

They're trying to make us flinch, which we're doing majorly. If we stop flinching, they'll stop.

Off topic, I want your weather @Alex.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mr. Rainman on September 15, 2011, 09:33:02 PM
Thank god I'm not a meteorology major. TWC would be the last place I would use to check my local weather info..

I'm confused. What does a meteorology major have to do with this?
cuz that's where I actually had a passion of the weather, from observing and learning the weather information that was displayed on my XL and IS over the years. Also, if I was majoring in meteorology I would be inclined to check the LOT8s more often for weather forecasts and observations.

That's interesting. I'm a meteorology major, but just so you know, under no circumstances do we use information from TWC and Local on the 8s. National Weather Service products and official models are all that are used.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 15, 2011, 10:17:25 PM
Thank god I'm not a meteorology major. TWC would be the last place I would use to check my local weather info..

I'm confused. What does a meteorology major have to do with this?
cuz that's where I actually had a passion of the weather, from observing and learning the weather information that was displayed on my XL and IS over the years. Also, if I was majoring in meteorology I would be inclined to check the LOT8s more often for weather forecasts and observations.

That doesn't really make any sense to me. I'm not sure why any meteorologist would base their forecast solely off of what TWC says. Any average Joe can do that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 15, 2011, 10:24:43 PM
I just wonder why the squeezeback isn't being used on FO.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 15, 2011, 10:28:29 PM
I just wonder why the squeezeback isn't being used on FO.
It also isnt being used on WUWA and YWT  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 15, 2011, 10:32:28 PM
I just wonder why the squeezeback isn't being used on FO.
It also isnt being used on WUWA and YWT  ;)
I've already known. :P Wasn't it supposed to be used on low-rated shows or something? I would think that FO wouldn't have high ratings, then again WCL has high ratings, but it's using the SB.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 15, 2011, 10:44:22 PM
I bet this won't be permanent, TWC is just trying to scare you  :P

My honest opinion it will be gone in the next couple weeks and we could put this little charade to rest.


OK, so one moment someone says this is going to be permanent, and the next moment someone else says this is only temporary. Now I'm really confused :blink: I guess as with any change, we'll just have to wait and see...

Also, I am even more confused with those of you who are quoting my posts (Kevin and skywarnal) but then either saying the same thing I did, even though it looks like you're trying to argue with me, or getting upset and then mentioning something that doesn't even have to do with what you quoted.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on September 16, 2011, 10:09:04 AM
I was agreeing with you. Which is what I started out saying bluntly and pretty much leaving it at that, but after about 10 re-edits it ended up just being my own rant. It was late. haha Had nothing to do with any arguments with you... cause I have none. In fact, after re-reading your post quote then what I said... I fail to see how it had nothing to do with your post. I'm sorry if you feel that way, let me know if you'd like me to remove your quote and I will gladly do so. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 16, 2011, 12:01:04 PM
I was agreeing with you. Which is what I started out saying bluntly and pretty much leaving it at that, but after about 10 re-edits it ended up just being my own rant. It was late. haha Had nothing to do with any arguments with you... cause I have none. In fact, after re-reading your post quote then what I said... I fail to see how it had nothing to do with your post. I'm sorry if you feel that way, let me know if you'd like me to remove your quote and I will gladly do so. :dunno:

No, it's fine...no worries. :) What you said actually had to do with my quote; I was talking about skywarnal for that part.

But anyway, I hope we can find out soon what the deal is with this squeezeback. Too bad they can't make a 2 minute flavor of it; that would give viewers more information.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 16, 2011, 01:51:18 PM
when I asked about the squeezeback being on daily I wanted to know if there was plans for it to be 2 minutes in the future I was told no changes will be made.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 16, 2011, 03:59:05 PM
Is Whisper to Me by 7and5 even on this playlist anymore? I have not heard it at all since last Thursday. All I hear on daytime is Villa by the Sea and I'm Waiting for You for the umpteenth time
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 16, 2011, 05:04:19 PM
just saw a colorbox screen with TWC~HD 334401L before it cued to Trammell at 4:58pm EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 16, 2011, 09:26:04 PM
Is Whisper to Me by 7and5 even on this playlist anymore? I have not heard it at all since last Thursday. All I hear on daytime is Villa by the Sea and I'm Waiting for You for the umpteenth time
I haven't heard S7ven Large either since last Thursday. That's the problem with the reduced LFs.  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on September 17, 2011, 11:22:58 AM
The Squeezeback L-Bar featured during Weekend Now at :08/:38 and :18/:48 replacing 90 second Local on the 8s.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 17, 2011, 11:26:16 AM
looks to be permanent then if the weekend shows are implenting it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 17, 2011, 04:55:08 PM
I'm removing TWC from my television channel list program. Let me know when they decide this is a stupid idea and remove it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 17, 2011, 08:29:45 PM
That's a little extreme if that wasn't sarcasm. Disliking change is one thing, but disowning a channel because of experimentation is a little much.

To be honest, TWC isn't a big part of my life anymore. It used to be my only sole channel, but that's no longer the case. I don't even watch television that much because school's keeping me busy and I'm trying to do other things to keep occupy my active self, which I think is a really good, healthy thing for me to do. I'm not crazy about the L-bar, I will admit that, but if I'm going to let an L-bar infuriate me that much, then I obviously don't have my priorities straight.



Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 17, 2011, 11:52:53 PM
The way the L-Bar should be *Black Screen*

Local Forecast Squeezeback 9/17/11 1:48pm EDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JqRaquPR4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 18, 2011, 09:53:27 AM
The way the L-Bar should be *Black Screen*

Local Forecast Squeezeback 9/17/11 1:48pm EDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13JqRaquPR4#[/url])


(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.ch/thumb/5/52/Double-facepalm.jpg/750px-Double-facepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on September 18, 2011, 12:40:30 PM
it's kinda interesting how Tyler nor Martin have not replied in response to these changes.  :P

(or I read over their response)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 18, 2011, 01:24:49 PM
it's kinda interesting how Tyler nor Martin have not replied in response to these changes.  :P

(or I read over their response)
IKR?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on September 18, 2011, 02:25:23 PM
Perhaps they:
1. don't feel like getting involved with a semi-childish discussion (read, the classic "I'm removing TWC from lineup for [insert reason here])
2. They don't want to make a statement or comment until they have some solid information on the subject.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 18, 2011, 05:05:40 PM
If it is considered childish and unwelcome, then I will proudly leave the forum, as everybody has an opinion and right to free speech.

Anyways, I have removed TWC from my lineup and I'll tell you why. The management at TWC thinks that the XL doesn't have the capabilities to operate such a thing like an LDL or L-Bar. Why should I give a crap about the forecast two thousand miles away from my location? Because they at least gave us the national?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 18, 2011, 05:59:26 PM
Andy did you really have to post that? that just adds fuel to the fire. back on topic with the recent changes of the removal of the Outdoor Activity and Schoolday Forecast I wasn't surprised they removed the short locals for the squeezeback.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on September 18, 2011, 06:21:01 PM
If they'd remove the Sunrise/Sunset screen on the squeezeback I think it would help a little. I just don't know a valuable screen to replace it with. It's not exactly pertinent information. Ideas? Even if they made it in to an Almanac screen it might help. I really just wish they'd take advantage of all the wasted space, especially on the HD feed. I know this is the first version of it so things will change.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 18, 2011, 06:38:09 PM
VHS Quality: WeatherSTAR 4000 LF on September 18 at 2pm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzV5DfllngY#)

Check out the redraw at 0:50 (go to 0:48 for full view)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 18, 2011, 06:45:19 PM
Andy did you really have to post that? that just adds fuel to the fire. back on topic with the recent changes of the removal of the Outdoor Activity and Schoolday Forecast I wasn't surprised they removed the short locals for the squeezeback.

Post deleted. Please excuse my immature behavior. :wall:

Anyway, I personally think the squeezeback can be just as useful as the full-screen LF if they would make a 2 minute flavor of it and use the same screens, etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 18, 2011, 07:09:46 PM
I was told there is no plans for a 2 minute squeezeback flavor, The current use for the 60 and 90 second flavors are with the essential IStar/IS2 products.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 18, 2011, 07:22:35 PM
So all the squeezeback LF's last for 1 minutes? Why not at least use a 1 min LF in place of the squeezeback, then?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 18, 2011, 07:29:19 PM
I was wondering the same thing, if there is anymore future changes to this format I will be sure to post them.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 18, 2011, 07:29:39 PM
Honestly, I dislike the idea of having the squeezeback running in place of the LFs.. its not because Im an avid fan wanting my LOT8s in full screen, but even with my HDTV on the HD feed, I cant even read the text up in the corner of the national broadcast :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on September 18, 2011, 08:11:55 PM
VHS Quality: WeatherSTAR 4000 LF on September 18 at 2pm ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzV5DfllngY#[/url])

Check out the redraw at 0:50 (go to 0:48 for full view)


So I guess you're whole "TWC is removed from my lineup" thing is out the window...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 18, 2011, 09:24:53 PM
No, did you see the post I made on The Front Porch? I stated I'd be posting several more LF videos and they'd be my final ones for a while. I'm uploading the last one and they're all going to be at my artwork and creations topic.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 19, 2011, 10:30:44 AM
So all live TWC programs but Wake Up With Al use the L-bar that is presumably gonna replace the 90-second flavors permanently? Why use the L-bar at all if you're not going to use it one program?   <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 19, 2011, 11:02:23 AM
So all live TWC programs but Wake Up With Al use the L-bar that is presumably gonna replace the 90-second flavors permanently? Why use the L-bar at all if you're not going to use it one program?   <_<
Also it isn't used on YWT either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 19, 2011, 11:20:49 AM
There has to be some sort of ratings spread that lead to this radical change
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on September 19, 2011, 01:23:43 PM
Probably because the locals are more valuable during the morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on September 19, 2011, 05:17:27 PM
The ratings should go down. There's really no point in watching TWC anymore. It's not just good anymore. The L-Bar was the tipping point for me. This IS permanent. They aren't testing this. They been using the L-Bar quite often even before this  :censored: happened. Like for Hurricane Irene, they were using it. We can rule out testing because they have been using the L-Bar for a long time now. I've been tuning into TWC everyday to see if they reverted back. Obviously not.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on September 20, 2011, 05:33:46 PM
My problem with TWC is a lack of access to products in this current age.  If it's 12-after the hour and I want to see a radar, I either have to wait six minutes (or trending toward 8 now)........or change the channel to my local station's wx subchannel that runs a radar every couple minutes (and gives a local weather update with a meteorologist every 10-15 minutes).

Personally I think it's time for TWC to completely ax the classic Local AND the lower line for a complete Weatherscan-type format...programming constantly surrounded by an L-bar with constant radar and wx information (unless there are special circumstances, like a hurricane).

(apologizes to the ownership for the mess created by my post...I'll clean up the exploded heads.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 20, 2011, 05:40:56 PM
My problem with TWC is a lack of access to products in this current age.  If it's 12-after the hour and I want to see a radar, I either have to wait six minutes (or trending toward 8 now)........or change the channel to my local station's wx subchannel that runs a radar every couple minutes (and gives a local weather update with a meteorologist every 10-15 minutes).

Personally I think it's time for TWC to completely ax the classic Local AND the lower line for a complete Weatherscan-type format...programming constantly surrounded by an L-bar with constant radar and wx information (unless there are special circumstances, like a hurricane).

(apologizes to the ownership for the mess created by my post...I'll clean up the exploded heads.)

The Weather Channel is no longer a channel concerning LIVE weather, rather REALITY SHOWS. As I have said before, they're turning into MTV, VH1, and such channels. It'd take time and effort to do this - and they won't do ANYTHING like this with the XL or 4000. Know how the L-Bar is? Think of it like that, except 24/7 with an XL/4000/Jr. I'd be content if they would do something with the XL and L-Bar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 20, 2011, 06:26:28 PM
Not to mention the IS2 has been put to waste..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 20, 2011, 06:39:42 PM
My problem with TWC is a lack of access to products in this current age.  If it's 12-after the hour and I want to see a radar, I either have to wait six minutes (or trending toward 8 now)........or change the channel to my local station's wx subchannel that runs a radar every couple minutes (and gives a local weather update with a meteorologist every 10-15 minutes).

Personally I think it's time for TWC to completely ax the classic Local AND the lower line for a complete Weatherscan-type format...programming constantly surrounded by an L-bar with constant radar and wx information (unless there are special circumstances, like a hurricane).

(apologizes to the ownership for the mess created by my post...I'll clean up the exploded heads.)

I am starting to think that's where they're headed, too. :yes: A lot of stations now a days have a format like this, with an L-Bar simultaneously running with live programming.

In all honestly, what would this hurt if TWC has a 24-hour L-Bar? Playlists? I think TWC could survive without them. The IS2? That would certainly be a waste of money, so this may be a problem. Lack of local weather information? If TWC goes this route, they should re-design the L-Bar to include more information and local information for XL viewers.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 20, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
Makes me think that cable companies are at fault now for not having the budget to get the IS  :P

If this is indeed the way for TWC now, I really wish DirecTV and TWC could get off their butts and enhance the LF app to include a squeezeback-safe one, since IMO, lack of seeing the LF app they designed 2 years ago is also a waste  :ermm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 20, 2011, 07:52:38 PM
I think they should continue showing the LF every thirty minutes as they are now and do the 24hr L-Bar, but what would that mean for the HD studio on an SD feed? Already seems cramped as it is now... sigh.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 20, 2011, 08:05:56 PM
I'm extremely surprised that some people here are calling for the L-bar to be permanently displayed, considering how much opposition there was to the expanded LDL, which people said made the screen too crowded already.  I'd personally like the expanded LDL to return at the expense of the L-bar, which has a lot of wasted space (especially in the HD feed).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 20, 2011, 08:59:42 PM
I'm extremely surprised that some people here are calling for the L-bar to be permanently displayed, considering how much opposition there was to the expanded LDL, which people said made the screen too crowded already.  I'd personally like the expanded LDL to return at the expense of the L-bar, which has a lot of wasted space (especially in the HD feed).

I didn't care much for the large LDL for the main reason you said about it taking up space, but if I had to choose between the large LDL and the L Bar I would agree with you and choose the large LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 20, 2011, 09:10:46 PM
Hmm, the big LDL seemed to slip my mind. :thinking: That would actually work better with the SD/HD trouble, except of course the dreaded sidebar would return on HD.

Since they're using the squeezeback now, I'm assuming this is what they will stick with for awhile, at least.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on September 21, 2011, 06:15:44 AM
Perhaps they:
1. don't feel like getting involved with a semi-childish discussion (read, the classic "I'm removing TWC from lineup for [insert reason here])
2. They don't want to make a statement or comment until they have some solid information on the subject.
Check and Check ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on September 21, 2011, 06:39:29 AM
OK I guess I have to get into this. TWC doesn't do anything without lots of testing and a tooon of focus groups. If they are reducing the amount of locals its because they are getting enough statistical feedback to do so. The average user could care less about the music. In fact most people I know joke about it and dislike it. 

We are living in a multitasking sort of life. I can look on my smartphone in about two seconds and find the local forecast for my area. TWC is evolving so that it offers content that is unique and attracts viewers. The new format for lfs offer more information at once to the viewer. And really what is the average viewer loosing my not having a full lf? A screen telling them they broke a temp record? Air quality information? Stuff the average person could care less about. 

Now I am not a fan of the change either and I dislike them as much as you all do but posting endlessly about something you can't change is pointless. Make the comment and move on. Non stop speculation and bashing isn't productive. I highly encourage those who are interested in the older days of TWC and how things used to be to discuss it in the classics area or post about some of the things you really liked. No sense in always being so negative.

I'm not trying to be rude at all, in any way, but I'm honestly waiting for someone to say they're contacting a senator.

Lawsuits, trying to call a corporate office... and now petitions? Come on, guys. It sucks, it's annoying, I'm not a fan of it at all... but I honestly think most of you are more mad about the lack of music than the lack of local weather. It's The Weather Channel, not MTV. I've never talked to anyone, ever, that cared about the music they play during the LOT8's (including me) until I found this forum. They want to see the radar and what the forecast is. Let's face it, most of us are diehard TWC fans or we wouldn't care about coming to this forum. The majority of the viewing population is not. The best way to let them know you'd like the LOT8's back is to use their Feedback or Contact Us pages on weather.com.

Again, I'm not trying to be rude... but let's calm down a bit here.
Well said.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ap215 on September 23, 2011, 09:55:16 AM
To my surprise this am when i tuned into Abrams & Bettes they went back to the music instead of the LBar feature interesting. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 23, 2011, 10:01:36 AM
FO, YWT, and WUWA never had the L-Bar implemented.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 24, 2011, 11:41:49 PM
For the first time in weeks, I heard Metameme. I've been wondering why it never seemed to play.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 25, 2011, 01:06:01 AM
Really? I hear it almost every day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 25, 2011, 09:01:28 AM
IMO TWC needs to either remove the sunrise/sunset panel or make it into a full almanac panel on the L-Bar. There is no need to see sunrise/set times every eight-to-ten minutes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 25, 2011, 04:40:49 PM
Spokane, WA IntelliStar Blowing Dust Report 9/25/2011 1:28PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6fuSOZXAM#)

Aside from talking about the retarded L-bar, here's a little treat for everyone. I caught this rare report on my IStar  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 25, 2011, 05:43:50 PM
Awesome! Thanks for sharing  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 25, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
Does anyone know what song played at :58? I'm hoping it's not aperture..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 26, 2011, 08:03:27 AM
TWC's new ID bumper is up. Will get a video soon (and won't include LF) from the next :57.

Also, I've got a song I need to be ID'd from 8:28pm last night.
That sound is my chair. I haven't oiled it in about a half-year.

You might need iTunes to listen, I don't know about .m4a files, all I do know is it was "Sent from my iPod."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 26, 2011, 11:01:57 AM
Did u get the song at 7:58, 10:58 or 11:58pm eastern too?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 26, 2011, 06:27:58 PM
Just got that one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 27, 2011, 09:10:21 AM
The best thing for satellite viewers is to have the DTV app cue when the L-Bar comes up (dish should have their own app), the XL should have some sort of bar to go with the current L-Bar
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 27, 2011, 11:24:27 AM
It seems TWC doesn't care about LFs and the legacy STARs these days  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 27, 2011, 12:13:02 PM
The best thing for satellite viewers is to have the DTV app cue when the L-Bar comes up (dish should have their own app)

You mean it doesn't?  That's such a waste.  Actually, I'd be very disappointed if it wasn't possible to cue the app on demand.

I know Dish Network has their own version of the local forecast, but, since those are so rare now, it would be nice if they'd have an app, too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 27, 2011, 12:19:27 PM
It seems TWC doesn't care about LFs and the legacy STARs these days  :no:

To be fair, legacy support is generally limited across the board.  For example, Windows 3.1, just a couple of years younger than the WeatherStar 4000, hasn't been supported by Microsoft for a full decade, yet TWC does continue to support the 4000.  Because of its technological limitations, it's just impossible for it to implement an L-bar, and an opaque LDL is barely within its abilities, though not exactly matching how TWC uses LDLs now, meaning the 4000 couldn't produce an L-bar leaving the ad space on the left transparent.

But you're right - TWC is caring less and less about reporting the weather.  It really is only a matter of time before TWC turns into another Discovery Channel.  And even that channel's original mission has been distorted and perverted so that every channel is getting to be just like every other channel.

Ideally, competition between channels would make each channel increase the quality of its programming to attract more viewers.  However, that would require a level of intellectualism that generally isn't "attractive."  Instead, competition means that every channel lowers itself closer and closer to the lowest common denominator while making their programming choices blend into those of other channels.  Thus, the more channels there are, the less there is worth watching.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 27, 2011, 06:06:22 PM
Here's an idea.

The Weather Channel - LIVE, 24HR WEATHER COVERAGE with LOT8s.
Reality Weather - Long-form programming and LBar for Nat'l, no local.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 28, 2011, 02:48:04 AM
It is really weird that TWC decided to make such a drastic, unannounced change. But perhaps, we should have seen this coming after their coverage of Irene. During Irene, several hours would go by without an LF. TWC has become increasingly reality based since 2005, anyway, and NBC's purchase just heightened TWC newfound focus on reality and entertainment programming. But it absolutely does not make sense for YWT and WUWA to have the typical LFs on the 8s of the hour, and all the other programs only have it at :28 and :58.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 28, 2011, 03:00:12 AM
Coverage of hurricanes and other weather emergencies can be forgiven for disrupting the usual schedule - it's more important to get urgent information communicated quickly.

As for the morning shows, I guess this is when they figure the audience is most interested in weather information, and so they're likely to turn to TWC to get it than at any other time of the day, hence the regular use of local forecast segments.

But for the rest of the day... weather reporting takes a backseat, and, sadly, that now also includes the local forecasts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 28, 2011, 10:43:08 AM
I wonder why TWC starting using the L-bar to replace 90-second IS flavors during the daytime in the first place...   :thinking:

Could it be ratings, or they just simple don't care for their viewers anymore?   :dunno:

It'll only be a matter of time before a controversy brews and TWC realizes they've done a horrible thing, but that time will be... NEVER  :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 28, 2011, 10:47:12 AM
the reason they removed the K flavors is because they mistakenly took off the L flavors at :08 & :38, another reason was when they removed Traffic after the contract expired. maybe if a Traffic Vendor got in touch with TWC and requested to be on LOT8's we may see a K flavor return.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 28, 2011, 11:25:10 AM
Looks like TWC heard me, i tuned in at :18 and heard I'm waiting for you - Jackiem Joyner K Flavors are back!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 28, 2011, 11:49:41 AM
Looks like TWC heard me, i tuned in at :18 and heard I'm waiting for you - Jackiem Joyner K Flavors are back!

This is what Tyler said in the General TWC Discussion thread...

The locals will be temporarily coming back during all live programming until they can fix a few things and send out an update. Then the squeezeback will return for :08/:18/:38/:48, and the locals will only play at :28/:58.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 28, 2011, 11:55:09 AM
I wonder what the updates are, bummer the squeezeback is returning.  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 28, 2011, 03:02:54 PM
I'm unable to check...are the locals at :28 and :58 (when the squeezeback is being used at all other times) 1:30 or 2:00 flavors? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 28, 2011, 03:15:37 PM
I'm unable to check...are the locals at :28 and :58 (when the squeezeback is being used at all other times) 1:30 or 2:00 flavors? :dunno:


They Air 2 minute flavors (the new batch before the L-bar update)

The Weather Channel's New :28 Locals on the IntelliSTAR 7/26/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf6zxOoVmWE#)

The Weather Channel's New :58 Locals on the IntelliSTAR 7/26/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4kW95xMeeQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 28, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
How long is temporary? I don't understand why they can';t just get rid of it and bring back the regular locals.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 28, 2011, 04:13:30 PM
How long is temporary? I don't understand why they can';t just get rid of it and bring back the regular locals.

Well, as metioned earlier, there is probably a "method to their madness." I am assuming (and believe someone mentioned this) that ratings or viewership or something is showing that the squeezeback being used most of the time for locals is a good idea.

What Tyler said in the General TWC Discussion thread was that it was being temporariliy disabled "to fix a few things" and then "to send out an update." What this means...IDK. I would like to know if this "fixing a few things" and "update" has to do with bugs in the system loading or whatnot, or if TWC is updating the graphics of the squeezeback to fit HD better and make better use of the screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 28, 2011, 04:18:05 PM
I wonder how long it will last, though. I can see them using the L-bar during longform because obviously people would want to check their local weather information while watching longform, but isn't it a little different with live programming? That's what the LDL is for.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on September 28, 2011, 04:20:35 PM
When you guys are saying L-bar, you do mean squeezeback... right? 'Cause to me the L-bar is the old style L-bar with current conditions for cities across the US scrolling on the left side with a radar at bottom left and local conditions along the bottom. The squeezeback is what they've been using lately that comes on the 8's where it has the clouds behind it with local information and squeezes the broadcast in to the upper right corner.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 28, 2011, 04:33:32 PM
The L-Bar from 2006 has always had the technical term "squeezeback", and vice-versa.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 28, 2011, 04:35:02 PM
When you guys are saying L-bar, you do mean squeezeback... right? 'Cause to me the L-bar is the old style L-bar with current conditions for cities across the US scrolling on the left side with a radar at bottom left and local conditions along the bottom. The squeezeback is what they've been using lately that comes on the 8's where it has the clouds behind it with local information and squeezes the broadcast in to the upper right corner.

Yes, we are using the terms "L-Bar" and "squeezeback" interchangeably. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 28, 2011, 07:18:44 PM
I could see TWC putting up CC's for the Nationwide cities in the Top-Right corner like in this IS video. (Atlanta,Boston,Charlotte) etc. if they made an L-bar for Satellite viewers.

TWC Local on the 8's Boston L-bar during Weather Center 9/27/11 at 1:38 AM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_c_HbZfGU#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: MoopieLips on September 29, 2011, 05:42:43 PM
I've actually noticed a return of the real full screen LOT8's recently. Maybe TWC realized that some people had a hard time seeing their coverage with that setup during the Local Forecast. I honestly don't care what they do, but, personally, I check for the classic Local Forecast, and I really hope that stays.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on September 30, 2011, 01:41:04 PM
I've actually noticed a return of the real full screen LOT8's recently. Maybe TWC realized that some people had a hard time seeing their coverage with that setup during the Local Forecast. I honestly don't care what they do, but, personally, I check for the classic Local Forecast, and I really hope that stays.

Here is your answer as to why you are seeing the full screen locals right now.
The locals will be temporarily coming back during all live programming until they can fix a few things and send out an update. Then the squeezeback will return for :08/:18/:38/:48, and the locals will only play at :28/:58.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on September 30, 2011, 03:25:37 PM
Well that sucks. I knew this **** was permanent.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Al on September 30, 2011, 04:30:20 PM
Well that sucks. I knew this **** was permanent.  :thumbdown:

get over it. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on September 30, 2011, 08:00:36 PM
Well that sucks. I knew this **** was permanent.  :thumbdown:

get over it. :rolleyes:
You mad?  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on September 30, 2011, 08:02:11 PM
Well that sucks. I knew this **** was permanent.  :thumbdown:

Though I am in agreeance that it sucks, there isn't anything we can do over it except complain. I call no more complaints. Who's with me?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on September 30, 2011, 08:03:21 PM
Well that sucks. I knew this **** was permanent.  :thumbdown:

Though I am in agreeance that it sucks, there isn't anything we can do over it except complain. I call no more complaints. Who's with me?
True, complaining ain't gonna get us anywhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on September 30, 2011, 08:32:35 PM
Well, I'm enjoying it while it lasts.  :P Hopefully, they will have a change of heart, like when TWC wanted to change to all rock music, until there was considerable backlash.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 01, 2011, 10:38:50 AM
Here's 2 songs that should air on TWC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuenvaOt8j8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuenvaOt8j8#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_VFi1Fwppc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_VFi1Fwppc#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 03, 2011, 10:48:02 PM
Why did u remove ur vid with Jay Soto?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 03, 2011, 11:11:35 PM
Why did u remove ur vid with Jay Soto?

Because i added a different song in it's place (added above)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on October 04, 2011, 12:45:06 AM
Gulf Breeze by Michael C. Lewis would sound good on TWC too.

http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/5063126 (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/5063126)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 04, 2011, 01:02:30 PM
thank god the L-bar is still off :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on October 10, 2011, 07:38:40 AM
On the IntelliStar, when Windy Conditions reported, the Windy icon doesn't display in any of the Current Conditions products, like Sunny and Windy, and Partly Cloudy and Windy, and Cloudy and Windy, but I hope in the future, Sunny and Windy icon, and Partly Cloudy and Windy, and Cloudy and Windy icon might be reported in any of the Current Conditions products, as well as the regular Windy icon when reported as "Fair and Windy", and "Mostly Cloudy and Windy".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on October 10, 2011, 11:00:54 AM
I suppose it's not displayed on the current conditions page because it's superfluous.

For one thing, it's a rather large icon that's displayed, so, for example, the slanted rain or snow is easy to tell from the vertical rain or snow.  In addition, the wind speed and gusts are displayed on the same screen, and the word "windy" is printed under the icon with the other weather conditions.

It makes sense to have the word "windy" added to the icon on regional maps, etc., but I really don't think it's necessary on the current conditions screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 10, 2011, 02:59:41 PM
So...did twc say fackin bye, bye to the l-bar localonthe8s?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on October 10, 2011, 05:49:33 PM
So...did twc say fackin bye, bye to the l-bar localonthe8s?
I don't know.  :dunno: They have been using the normal LFs for about two weeks now. As i said before, maybe they saw the negative public reaction and reconsidered, much like they did when they were supposed to drop jazz back in 09.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 10, 2011, 06:02:11 PM
Well I hope that's the case. And twc didn't listen to our changes in regard to jazz music. There is still primetime, morning and overnight we have to deal with. I'm sure if twc listened, we would be having 35 song jazz playlists back now
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on October 10, 2011, 06:21:44 PM
Goodbye, LBar, hopefully for good :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on October 10, 2011, 06:44:39 PM
On the IntelliStar, when Windy Conditions reported, the Windy icon doesn't display in any of the Current Conditions products, like Sunny and Windy, and Partly Cloudy and Windy, and Cloudy and Windy, but I hope in the future, Sunny and Windy icon, and Partly Cloudy and Windy, and Cloudy and Windy icon might be reported in any of the Current Conditions products, as well as the regular Windy icon when reported as "Fair and Windy", and "Mostly Cloudy and Windy".

The windy icon has never (and will likely) never be used on the CC product or The Week Ahead product because having an icon with the word "WINDY" right above a text forecast that says "windy" is redundant.

So if the L-Bar forecast is gone, does this mean regular locals are returning. TWC needs to make up their :censored: minds on what they are going to do unless they are still "testing" whatever the heck they were testing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on October 10, 2011, 08:03:08 PM
So if the L-Bar forecast is gone, does this mean regular locals are returning. TWC needs to make up their :censored: minds on what they are going to do unless they are still "testing" whatever the heck they were testing.

I'll tell you what they were testing... they were testing a loaded baked potato hock-loogie Mariokart Wii cheddar cheese and sour cream beef dog corn  :censored:.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 10, 2011, 08:05:04 PM
So if the L-Bar forecast is gone, does this mean regular locals are returning. TWC needs to make up their :censored: minds on what they are going to do unless they are still "testing" whatever the heck they were testing.

I'll tell you what they were testing... they were testing a loaded baked potato hock-loogie Mariokart Wii cheddar cheese and sour cream beef dog corn  :censored:.
They were obviously testing a concept and apparently viewers werent pleased, so they do have reasons behind what they do :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 10, 2011, 09:58:19 PM
So if the L-Bar forecast is gone, does this mean regular locals are returning. TWC needs to make up their :censored: minds on what they are going to do unless they are still "testing" whatever the heck they were testing.

I'll tell you what they were testing... they were testing a loaded baked potato hock-loogie Mariokart Wii cheddar cheese and sour cream beef dog corn  :censored:.
The locals are already back. I just wish they would make the :38 and :08 flavors back to 2 minutes. Doubt they'll do it but it doesn't hurt with viewer feedback.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on October 10, 2011, 10:30:59 PM
So if the L-Bar forecast is gone, does this mean regular locals are returning. TWC needs to make up their :censored: minds on what they are going to do unless they are still "testing" whatever the heck they were testing.

I'll tell you what they were testing... they were testing a loaded baked potato hock-loogie Mariokart Wii cheddar cheese and sour cream beef dog corn  :censored:.
They were obviously testing a concept and apparently viewers werent pleased, so they do have reasons behind what they do :rolleyes:

To be honest, I didn't think the average viewer cared that much about a full screen LOT8s. Then again, I remember Cantore saying that the LOT8s was the number one reason why people tune to The Weather Channel. So I'm confused! :wacko:

Bottom line is, the regular locals are back and unless we get confirmation from one of our trusty sources, I guess we can assume this is a permanent change (for the better)...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on October 10, 2011, 10:35:10 PM
Um, it was said previously that the squeezeback is having some changes made to it and will resume when they're worked out. Don't know what they are, don't know why, just that it will be back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 10, 2011, 10:50:20 PM
I will find out and check myself..I am skeptical that the reversion back to full screen locals is permanent. Something just doesn't seem right here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on October 10, 2011, 10:50:49 PM
The Weather Channel without local forecasts is just not The Weather Channel, period.  L-bars just don't cut it.  Even more so when a mere LDL replaces the local forecast segment.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on October 11, 2011, 12:39:29 AM
Um, it was said previously that the squeezeback is having some changes made to it and will resume when they're worked out. Don't know what they are, don't know why, just that it will be back.

Oh that's right...duh. :wall: For some reason it just seems like such a long time ago when Tyler made this post below (in the General TWC Discussion thread). And I think I misread a post above to where I thought the L-Bar was brought back after the "changes" but then discontinued again.

The locals will be temporarily coming back during all live programming until they can fix a few things and send out an update. Then the squeezeback will return for :08/:18/:38/:48, and the locals will only play at :28/:58.


So, for those confused (including myself :P), the L-Bar is still temporarily disabled to "fix a few things." Like Vic, I was skeptical about the full screen locals as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on October 11, 2011, 12:43:07 AM
Um, it was said previously that the squeezeback is having some changes made to it and will resume when they're worked out. Don't know what they are, don't know why, just that it will be back.

Oh that's right...duh. :wall: For some reason it just seems like such a long time ago when Tyler made this post below (in the General TWC Discussion thread). And I think I misread a post above to where I thought the L-Bar was brought back after the "changes" but then discontinued again.

The locals will be temporarily coming back during all live programming until they can fix a few things and send out an update. Then the squeezeback will return for :08/:18/:38/:48, and the locals will only play at :28/:58.


So, for those confused (including myself :P), the L-Bar is still temporarily disabled to "fix a few things." Like Vic, I was skeptical about the full screen locals as well.

Well, we just gotta enjoy it while it lasts, I guess... :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 11, 2011, 12:56:32 AM
The only way i could see the :08 and :38 2 minutes coming back is if Tru View Max Traffic is added. about the LBar i was told it was a test and viewer input was needed to either (keep it or remove it by the testing group) so anything other than that is pure speculation.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 11, 2011, 08:41:52 AM
The only way i could see the :08 and :38 2 minutes coming back is if Tru View Max Traffic is added. about the LBar i was told it was a test and viewer input was needed to either (keep it or remove it by the testing group) so anything other than that is pure speculation.

Your source? We should go by confirmation, not what one sees
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 11, 2011, 08:58:37 AM
T fulkerson: The Local Bar is in a Testing Phase, it should be a mixture of both Full Screen Locals and the Localized Bar. that was sometime in September so testing may have concluded by now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on October 11, 2011, 10:18:03 PM
I notice on my SD feed the TWC logo on the L bar does not line up with the logo on the TWC feed.
It's showing to the left and top behind the logo on the L Bar.
Is this how it normally is?
(http://thumbnails56.imagebam.com/15359/11dab8153581445.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/11dab8153581445)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 11, 2011, 11:49:37 PM
I notice on my SD feed the TWC logo on the L bar does not line up with the logo on the TWC feed.
It's showing to the left and top behind the logo on the L Bar.
Is this how it normally is?
([url]http://thumbnails56.imagebam.com/15359/11dab8153581445.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.imagebam.com/image/11dab8153581445[/url])


Wow, you have the same Intellistar that I have. :o The headend is from Newark, though, I don't think Teterboro has their own Fios headend. Does your intellistar look like this? And yes, I saw this a few weeks ago and it was out of place. Not only that,but the local forecast keeps kicking in 5 seconds late.

Newark Intellistar 3/3 8-8-11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqF6Lo7oz8Y#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on October 12, 2011, 07:03:53 PM
Yes I have the same local forecast. FiOS only has one local forecast for NJ VH07.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 12, 2011, 10:25:04 PM
The only way i could see the :08 and :38 2 minutes coming back is if Tru View Max Traffic is added. about the LBar i was told it was a test and viewer input was needed to either (keep it or remove it by the testing group) so anything other than that is pure speculation.
What exactly is your obsession with Tru View Max Traffic and TWC?

Also, the reason the L-bar has temporarily disappeared has nothing to do with group testing at this point. There are a few things they are working out (as I already said), then it will return.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 12, 2011, 10:28:30 PM
The only way i could see the :08 and :38 2 minutes coming back is if Tru View Max Traffic is added. about the LBar i was told it was a test and viewer input was needed to either (keep it or remove it by the testing group) so anything other than that is pure speculation.
What exactly is your obsession with Tru View Max Traffic and TWC?

It's not really an obsession (i don't know where you got that idea from), all i'm basically saying is it would just be nice to see Traffic again on TWC sometime soon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 12, 2011, 11:56:26 PM
The only way i could see the :08 and :38 2 minutes coming back is if Tru View Max Traffic is added. about the LBar i was told it was a test and viewer input was needed to either (keep it or remove it by the testing group) so anything other than that is pure speculation.
What exactly is your obsession with Tru View Max Traffic and TWC?

It's not really an obsession (i don't know where you got that idea from), all i'm basically saying is it would just be nice to see Traffic again on TWC sometime soon.
Alex, you've been makings posts here in this thread and elsewhere (I believe the IS2, General TWC Discussion) about Tru Max. Tyler obviously didn't mention anything about traffic, so he has a valid point about your obsession. If TWC has no interest in bringing traffic products back seeing that their contract with TrafficPulse expired, what would motivate them to use another service? I think the local forecasts are fine without the traffic products. I, never, have used the traffic products on the Local forecast as a method of finding our traffic. There's a reason why the radio, more specifically, FM traffic radio, exists. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 13, 2011, 06:03:32 AM
Its ironic in a way, though to see the platform being developed by the parent company of TWC, though I will agree with Tyler and Vic on this one that TWC likely has no intentions on using traffic products during the LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 15, 2011, 03:58:07 PM
Local Forecast with No Current Conditions Narration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i8wSBZrXas#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 24, 2011, 01:44:05 PM
Are the locals during longform supposed to play during :18 and :48? Not sure why they are cuing 10 minutes early.
TWC HD 1 minute LF - 10/23/11 5:48PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRtXg0Uownk#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on October 27, 2011, 05:34:36 PM
Is the song that played at :27 on the list?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 27, 2011, 06:07:22 PM
Is the song that played at :27 on the list?
What played at :27? ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 27, 2011, 06:08:20 PM
Is the song that played at :27 on the list?
What played at :27? ;)

Craig Chaquico from the Intellistar backup playlist, but is that the song your referring to?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 27, 2011, 06:10:43 PM
Return of the Eagle played?! That's two dual feed error sightings in one week! :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on October 27, 2011, 06:12:54 PM
Is the song that played at :27 on the list?
What played at :27? ;)

Craig Chaquico from the Intellistar backup playlist, but is that the song your referring to?
Ok, thanks. It did play at :27. The LF cuing times during longform have been out of whack recently. And that song also played at :58.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 27, 2011, 06:27:06 PM
South of the Market @ :28
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 27, 2011, 06:44:06 PM
Is the song that played at :27 on the list?
What played at :27? ;)

Craig Chaquico from the Intellistar backup playlist, but is that the song your referring to?
Ok, thanks. It did play at :27. The LF cuing times during longform have been out of whack recently. And that song also played at :58.
Yes, that's what I posted on the previous page. They are airing 10 minutes earlier than they're supposed to.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on October 27, 2011, 06:52:19 PM
Man, I keep missing when that happens! I'd be nice if those songs were on the actual primetime playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 27, 2011, 06:57:38 PM
South of the Market again @ :58
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 27, 2011, 06:59:18 PM
South of the Market again @ :58
Is that for DirecTV? I thought those songs are for the Intellistar. :huh: Don't know why they'd pop on the national feed...If they play Road to Venlo and When Summer Comes from the Intellistar feed, my life is happy. ^_^
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 27, 2011, 07:00:15 PM
DirecTV has an IntelliStar... we have discussed this before Vic.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 27, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
DirecTV has an IntelliStar... we have discussed this before Vic.
Then why is it that everyone who had uploaded clips of these songs have the clips coming from the Intellistar? Something isn't right here
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 27, 2011, 07:01:38 PM
seems to be only occurring during the 5-7pm long form block  :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 27, 2011, 07:02:56 PM
DirecTV has an IntelliStar... we have discussed this before Vic.
Then why is it that everyone who had uploaded clips of these songs have the clips coming from the Intellistar? Something isn't right here
Maybe because a majority of us TWC fans uploading clips of the errors have cable and not satellite? ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on October 27, 2011, 07:03:44 PM
South of the Market again @ :58
South of Market :P

It actually played at :55 :blink: (yes, you read that right).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 27, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
DirecTV has an IntelliStar... we have discussed this before Vic.
Then why is it that everyone who had uploaded clips of these songs have the clips coming from the Intellistar? Something isn't right here
Maybe because a majority of us TWC fans uploading clips of the errors have cable and not satellite? ;)
yeah, that could be why :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on October 27, 2011, 08:33:51 PM
Rainbow Seeker at :28.  :huh: It is refreshing to hear these classics come back, though. It's funny how errors can make the primetime list better.  :P First it started during Irene when various dayparts were used in primetime, and now this apparent Intellistar error.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on October 27, 2011, 09:20:34 PM
Alright, hold up a second.  DirecTV has an actual IntelliSTAR? I know they had that "local weather app" or whatever it is, but I didn't realize they had an IS. When did this happen? :blink:

Also, why in the heck would the playlist be different for the IS and National Feed? I'm confused. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on October 27, 2011, 09:28:21 PM
Road to Venlo at :27!!!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on October 27, 2011, 09:37:18 PM
Something similar occurred sometime in 2006. You can hear a different song when the national feed comes on for a split-second at the beginning, then, the IS cues, and "Road to Venlo" airs.

TWC IntelliStar Local Forecast with old weather icons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVntRqt8p7s#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 27, 2011, 09:56:42 PM
Alright, hold up a second.  DirecTV has an actual IntelliSTAR? I know they had that "local weather app" or whatever it is, but I didn't realize they had an IS. When did this happen? :blink:

Also, why in the heck would the playlist be different for the IS and National Feed? I'm confused. :wacko:

1) DirecTV has had an IntelliStar at their headend since 2004.  ;)

2) This is the IntelliStar's internal playlist, and is being cued for some odd reason on most 1:00 LFs tonight.

EDIT: here's a clip of 24131 using the playlist
Local Forecast Dual Feed Error - October 27, 2011 #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJh7ZqG_pSM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 28, 2011, 05:28:53 PM
dual feed errors continue tonight on long form with Joyce cooling @ :28
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 28, 2011, 11:30:12 PM
dual feed errors continue tonight on long form with Joyce cooling @ :28

George Howard @ 11:29pm EDT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on November 02, 2011, 08:30:01 PM
I just heard Deux Cafe, one of my favorite Brian Hughes songs at :28! :happy: Even though this is an Intellistar error, it is nice to hear these classics play again.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 03, 2011, 09:59:55 AM
Looking back @ 9:58 AM ET.. why is WUWA still using the September list? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on November 03, 2011, 10:20:12 AM
Looking back @ 9:58 AM ET.. why is WUWA still using the September list? :huh:
And Exotica just played at :18.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 03, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
maybe they haven't decided to switch the playlist yet on WUWA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on November 03, 2011, 11:42:35 AM
I am in no way a "playlist" expert, but why can't TWC just use the same playlist (for its designated two months) 24/7?  I know WUWA used to play vocal music, but since that doesn't look like it is happening anymore, shouldn't they just have the same playlist as all the other shows? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 04, 2011, 10:32:48 PM
HiRAD is out!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on November 04, 2011, 10:40:00 PM
HiRAD is out!

Ironically it's working on Weatherscan. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 04, 2011, 11:06:08 PM
HiRAD is out!

Ironically it's working on Weatherscan. :huh:
Its more than likely your airport site.. not all STARs/WxScans switch their CC title to airport names during a HiRAD outage. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 04, 2011, 11:19:35 PM
HiRAD appears to be working again, according to weather.com. I checked my weather conditions online and it has been updated from 6:05PM PT to 8:05PM PT  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on November 04, 2011, 11:39:55 PM
HiRAD was out from an unknown time to 11:15PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 04, 2011, 11:52:36 PM
It was out sometime around 9:05 PM ET for me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 13, 2011, 02:24:35 AM
On the IntelliStar, when Windy Conditions reported, the Windy icon doesn't display in any of the Current Conditions products, like Sunny and Windy, and Partly Cloudy and Windy, and Cloudy and Windy, but I hope in the future, Sunny and Windy icon, and Partly Cloudy and Windy, and Cloudy and Windy icon might be reported in any of the Current Conditions products, as well as the regular Windy icon when reported as "Fair and Windy", and "Mostly Cloudy and Windy".


The windy icon has never (and will likely) never be used on the CC product or The Week Ahead product because having an icon with the word "WINDY" right above a text forecast that says "windy" is redundant.

You spoke too soon :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RwpWxpM_KtE#t=65s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RwpWxpM_KtE#t=65s)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 14, 2011, 01:40:41 AM
I believe "windy" (with no other weather accompanied by it) is used in the IntelliStar CC screen when rain squalls are being reported. I remember this happening here back in 2009.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on November 14, 2011, 11:58:49 AM
Unrelated, but who else hates that LF intro in that video?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 14, 2011, 12:22:26 PM
Unrelated, but who else hates that LF intro in that video?

I do! :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 14, 2011, 12:34:40 PM
Unrelated, but who else hates that LF intro in that video?
YES! That's probably the cheapest intro they have made, and the country music makes it even more awful.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on November 14, 2011, 01:08:28 PM
Unrelated, but who else hates that LF intro in that video?
The intro production is sucky, but it's the music that kills it for me. I'm not against country, but that is absolutely the worst application of it I have heard/seen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on November 14, 2011, 02:48:55 PM
The music is terrible!  :hammer:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on November 14, 2011, 04:14:34 PM
Unrelated, but who else hates that LF intro in that video?

I don't like it.  The music doesn't seem very professional.

On another note, I didn't realize I made that false statement until I looked over your post again, Zach. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on November 15, 2011, 06:01:54 PM
That into is pretty silly
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on November 15, 2011, 06:06:32 PM
Don't lie, you love to like it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 16, 2011, 11:43:48 AM
Maybe this is just me, but doesn't it seem like the radars they use on the IntelliStar are in "low resolution"? What I mean by that is it seems like it underestimates the intensity of storms. The ones they use on-air look much better.

EDIT: Heck, even the XL looks a little better.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 16, 2011, 03:59:49 PM
I actually disagree about your statement with the XL's radar for two reasons: it gets the same data from where the IS does, but processes it differently and the IS's radar is more higher-resolution (the XL's is pixellated) and the IS's radar maps easily can be easily customized for a headend's service area by having the map zoomed in/out, and more local if needbe. The XL only has one radar map and the only thing that could be customized were its plotted cities and geographical positioning of the map (no zooming, no hi-res data, etc).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 16, 2011, 04:21:39 PM
I actually disagree about your statement with the XL's radar for two reasons: it gets the same data from where the IS does, but processes it differently and the IS's radar is more higher-resolution (the XL's is pixellated) and the IS's radar maps easily can be easily customized for a headend's service area by having the map zoomed in/out, and more local if needbe. The XL only has one radar map and the only thing that could be customized were its plotted cities and geographical positioning of the map (no zooming, no hi-res data, etc).


I already knew that, what I mean is even with the XL's radar being pixellated, it still looks better to me as far as showing intensity of storms. For example, this picture is from a couple of hours ago. Would you really believe the storm circled in red is tornadic? It just looks like a heavy rain shower to me.

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1520/snapshot111162011414pm.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/snapshot111162011414pm.png/)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 16, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
It would be nice if the IS Radar was updated to Tru-Vu Max
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 16, 2011, 04:38:14 PM
I already knew that, what I mean is even with the XL's radar being pixellated, it still looks better to me as far as showing intensity of storms. For example, this picture is from a couple of hours ago. Would you really believe the storm circled in red is tornadic? It just looks like a heavy rain shower to me.
Be careful with that last statement as some tornadic storms don't always show a reflectivity hook.  You would need velocity data for true confirmation.  I would hope that the IS2 does an even better job with radar pixelation than the XL and the IS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 16, 2011, 04:55:34 PM
I already knew that, what I mean is even with the XL's radar being pixellated, it still looks better to me as far as showing intensity of storms. For example, this picture is from a couple of hours ago. Would you really believe the storm circled in red is tornadic? It just looks like a heavy rain shower to me.
Be careful with that last statement as some tornadic storms don't always show a reflectivity hook.  You would need velocity data for true confirmation.  I would hope that the IS2 does an even better job with radar pixelation than the XL and the IS.

That's precisely my problem with the IS's radar. There's really no hint that any of the storms on that radar picture could be tornadic unless I checked the velocity. If it wasn't for the crawl indicating to me what storm was tornadic and where it's going, I wouldn't think anything else of what I was seeing on the radar other than "oh, it's nothing but some heavy rain". I know the colors only are meant to indicate how intense the rain and hail is, but if I'm looking at other sources such as NWS, interactive radars, local news affiliates and they showing dark reds and purples from the same exact storm the IS is only showing yellows and oranges something is seriously wrong. It may be "high resolution" compared to the XL and 4000, but it's still not of high enough resolution as it should be. I can't fairly judge the IS2 until I can see it first hand during severe weather, but I hope it's better than the IS in resolution.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 16, 2011, 05:03:00 PM
That's precisely my problem with the IS's radar. There's really no hint that any of the storms on that radar picture could be tornadic unless I checked the velocity. If it wasn't for the crawl indicating to me what storm was tornadic and where it's going, I wouldn't think anything else of what I was seeing on the radar other than "oh, it's nothing but some heavy rain". I know the colors only are meant to indicate how intense the rain and hail is, but if I'm looking at other sources such as NWS, interactive radars, local news affiliates and they showing dark reds and purples from the same exact storm the IS is only showing yellows and oranges something is seriously wrong. It may be "high resolution" compared to the XL and 4000, but it's still not of high enough resolution as it should be. I can't fairly judge the IS2 until I can see it first hand during severe weather, but I hope it's better than the IS in resolution.
The color scale is likely different between what you see on the IS, the XL, and other sources that you mentioned.  Unfortunately, the real solution to this problem is to show the dBZ values on the color scale that is given on the LF.  However, nobody in the general public would have a clue what that means or even what dBZ is. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mr. Rainman on November 16, 2011, 05:05:03 PM
True, but people would probably easily understand the fact that dark colors are bad. Such a simple statement, but so true. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 16, 2011, 09:12:53 PM
It would be nice if the IS Radar was updated to Tru-Vu Max
Such an upgrade is likely not feasible on a system that's eight years old and doesn't have HD capabilities.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on November 18, 2011, 10:51:31 AM
Monoliths at :48? :blink: The WUWA playlist is still mixing dahparts up.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 18, 2011, 04:32:19 PM
Monoliths at :48? :blink: The WUWA playlist is still mixing dahparts up.
Yeah, WUWA has its own playlist profile, so we are aware. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on November 18, 2011, 04:40:27 PM
Monoliths at :48? :blink: The WUWA playlist is still mixing dahparts up.
Yeah, WUWA has its own playlist profile, so we are aware. :thumbsup:
Oh, thanks. I was thinking it was an error. And oops, I meant dayparts. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 25, 2011, 06:42:19 PM
I saw the Ocala, FL IntelliStar (ID #22417) again today and its LDL cities were different than they were back in April.. they are now Ocala, Silver Springs and Gainesville. They previously were Ocala, Orlando D'town and Downtown Tampa. However, when I saw its almanac, the city on it was Leesburg.. doesn't Ocala have an airport of their own? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on November 25, 2011, 08:27:39 PM
I saw the Ocala, FL IntelliStar (ID #22417) again today and its LDL cities were different than they were back in April.. they are now Ocala, Silver Springs and Gainesville. They previously were Ocala, Orlando D'town and Downtown Tampa. However, when I saw its almanac, the city on it was Leesburg.. doesn't Ocala have an airport of their own? :unsure:
I'm not sure...but the observation site that the NWS uses for the Ocala area is: Ocala Municipal Automatic Weather Observing. But Leesburg is a good distance away from Ocala, about halfway between Ocala and Orlando.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 25, 2011, 11:06:51 PM
Leesburg's records probably go back farther than Ocala's, so they chose the former.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on November 27, 2011, 08:22:25 AM
Saw a really weird 36-Hour Forecast last night...

Tonight
Rain and a few thunderstorms. Winds E at less than 5 MPH, increasing to 10 to 20 MPH as the night progresses. Low 45.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 27, 2011, 01:49:28 PM
Saw a really weird 36-Hour Forecast last night...

Tonight
Rain and a few thunderstorms. Winds E at less than 5 MPH, increasing to 10 to 20 MPH as the night progresses. Low 45.
As for the winds, I've seen the opposite occur (10 to 20 mph decreasing to less than 5 mph).

BTW, was the temperature info really after the wind info? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on November 27, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
Yes it was. It was very odd. I'll see if by chance I recorded it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 27, 2011, 09:48:35 PM
Hopefully there is some good Christmas music in the list this year.

alot of good ones are playing on here (http://www.181.fm/playing.php?station=181-xsmooth&embed=1)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 28, 2011, 05:21:31 PM
Looks like Local on the 8s will be Local on the 2s during the 5pm hour.  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 29, 2011, 07:35:00 PM
The IS LDL shown on programming appears to be glitching again. It has not turned off before commercial breaks and is preventing the IS from cuing. It's November 6 all over again...  :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2011, 07:43:13 PM
Did anyone catch the strange glitch on the 7:28 PM HD LF? The LF started out properly, but just as the NE region radar was transitioning into the weather for tomorrow, the radar froze; and the LF remained stuck at that screen for most of the local forecast (with the exception of the LDL, which was working properly)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 29, 2011, 08:07:33 PM
Did anyone catch the strange glitch on the 7:28 PM HD LF? The LF started out properly, but just as the NE region radar was transitioning into the weather for tomorrow, the radar froze; and the LF remained stuck at that screen for most of the local forecast (with the exception of the LDL, which was working properly)
It happens occassionally.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 29, 2011, 08:18:43 PM
Did anyone catch the strange glitch on the 7:28 PM HD LF? The LF started out properly, but just as the NE region radar was transitioning into the weather for tomorrow, the radar froze; and the LF remained stuck at that screen for most of the local forecast (with the exception of the LDL, which was working properly)
It happens occassionally.
It definitely freezes on occasion, but not like what it did tonight.. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on November 29, 2011, 08:20:29 PM
It's still frozen on the NE Radar on TWC HD.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2011, 08:21:21 PM
UPDATE: A completely different glitch occured on the 7:58 PM LF; this one was even stranger than the 7:28 PM error. The LF worked properly for about 2 or 3 seconds, and then the area on top of the LDL turned black, and then turned gray. A national map (seen on 1-minute LFs) then appeared, and the LDL froze at the same time. About a half second later, Trammell cut in - and it stayed on the Trammell feed for the rest of the LF. I wonder what the hell is going on with the HD LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 29, 2011, 08:27:55 PM
UPDATE: A completely different glitch occured on the 7:58 PM LF; this one was even stranger than the 7:28 PM error. The LF worked properly for about 2 or 3 seconds, and then the area on top of the LDL turned black, and then turned gray. A national map (seen on 1-minute LFs) then appeared, and the LDL froze at the same time. About a half second later, Trammell cut in - and it stayed on the Trammell feed for the rest of the LF. I wonder what the hell is going on with the HD LF.

For a few seconds after the initial trigger of Trammell at this LF, the HD LF returned again (frozen on one of the spinning-globe transitions), but only for a split second before Trammell came back.

Also, this is the 7:48 error

HD Local Forecast Glitch - November 29, 2011 - 7:48 PM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EFB4P5eL2M#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 29, 2011, 11:43:27 PM
UPDATE: A completely different glitch occured on the 7:58 PM LF; this one was even stranger than the 7:28 PM error. The LF worked properly for about 2 or 3 seconds, and then the area on top of the LDL turned black, and then turned gray. A national map (seen on 1-minute LFs) then appeared, and the LDL froze at the same time. About a half second later, Trammell cut in - and it stayed on the Trammell feed for the rest of the LF. I wonder what the hell is going on with the HD LF.

For a few seconds after the initial trigger of Trammell at this LF, the HD LF returned again (frozen on one of the spinning-globe transitions), but only for a split second before Trammell came back.

Also, this is the 7:48 error

HD Local Forecast Glitch - November 29, 2011 - 7:48 PM ET ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EFB4P5eL2M#ws[/url])

Zach, how were you able to get your clip of First Snow unmuted? I see it got tagged at least but they muted my clip of it. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 30, 2011, 06:09:23 AM
UPDATE: A completely different glitch occured on the 7:58 PM LF; this one was even stranger than the 7:28 PM error. The LF worked properly for about 2 or 3 seconds, and then the area on top of the LDL turned black, and then turned gray. A national map (seen on 1-minute LFs) then appeared, and the LDL froze at the same time. About a half second later, Trammell cut in - and it stayed on the Trammell feed for the rest of the LF. I wonder what the hell is going on with the HD LF.

For a few seconds after the initial trigger of Trammell at this LF, the HD LF returned again (frozen on one of the spinning-globe transitions), but only for a split second before Trammell came back.

Also, this is the 7:48 error

HD Local Forecast Glitch - November 29, 2011 - 7:48 PM ET ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EFB4P5eL2M#ws[/url])

Zach, how were you able to get your clip of First Snow unmuted? I see it got tagged at least but they muted my clip of it. <_<

It may have been because it wasn't all First Snow and transferred to Trammell later on in the video. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 30, 2011, 10:55:41 AM
The copyright system on YT seems a little random, like for example a 2 min. LF of the song Layla I had up was tagged, but the 1 min LF I had of the same song wasn't...I've noticed that they go after the videos that are 2 min. or more first, while the ones under that go by untagged or muted for a while.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 30, 2011, 03:25:31 PM
as of 11:20am EDT the IS LDL started showing Today and Tonight's forecast for the secondary LDL cities

New Bedford IS - (Fall River, Wareham)

Taunton IS - (Attleboro, Somerset)

The Weather Channel's New IntelliStar LDL Update (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTNmevIFS5I#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on November 30, 2011, 06:29:23 PM
I haven't stayed up to par on the LF troubles recently, however, I noticed my XL stopped displaying an ID and the narrations haven't been on since about a week and a half ago. I know the IS in Panama City, FL isn't displaying an ID either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 02, 2011, 10:50:01 PM
I got confirmation this week that the Holiday 2011 playlist will start either thursday december 8th or Friday December 9th. but I didn't get the list :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 02, 2011, 11:11:30 PM
Good to see that it will start early again :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on December 03, 2011, 02:03:31 AM
Cool! Hopefully the Intellistar error will get fixed by then. The internal playlist continues to play during longform for some strange reason.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Jake on December 03, 2011, 02:26:16 AM
I noticed that Jim Cantore no longer narrates on my IS2, I now have no narration. Does anyone else have this issue?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 03, 2011, 08:33:33 AM
Cool! Hopefully the Intellistar error will get fixed by then. The internal playlist continues to play during longform for some strange reason.
There's always the HD feed though :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on December 03, 2011, 03:45:12 PM
HiRAD is out.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on December 04, 2011, 06:59:37 PM
I still think HiRad is a piece of crap. It can and does underestimate precip
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 04, 2011, 07:01:06 PM
I still think HiRad is a piece of crap. It can and does underestimate precip
How would you even know? You have an XL, which in no way uses HiRAD technology...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on December 04, 2011, 07:11:47 PM
And I've never lived in a location that uses an Intellistar which DOES use HiRAD? Try asking before speaking.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on December 04, 2011, 08:52:37 PM
You just posted in the PBS about how you 'don't feel welcome here' (making it sound like people are rude to you), but then you turn around and post that? You're sounding kind of rude yourself... :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on December 04, 2011, 08:55:35 PM
Guys, please get back on topic here.  The personal discussions can be taken elsewhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on December 04, 2011, 08:56:31 PM
Sorry, Patrick. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on December 04, 2011, 09:57:16 PM
I wonder if there will be any special Christmas LF openers this year and when they will debut.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 05, 2011, 03:24:25 PM
I caught this rare advisory on my IS earlier today...

IntelliStar with an Air Stagnation Advisory- Spokane, WA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poaL9pZoZak#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 05, 2011, 06:43:55 PM
I caught this rare advisory on my IS earlier today...

IntelliStar with an Air Stagnation Advisory- Spokane, WA ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poaL9pZoZak#[/url])


Someone spiked his color settings like i used to do  :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 05, 2011, 07:06:45 PM
I caught this rare advisory on my IS earlier today...

IntelliStar with an Air Stagnation Advisory- Spokane, WA ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poaL9pZoZak#[/url])


Someone spiked his color settings like i used to do  :bleh:


Yeah, I thought I'd be a little fun to mess around with my tuner settings...  B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 06, 2011, 05:00:59 PM
Metro map update - They changed Midtown to Atlanta, I just noticed it  a few minutes ago. Took them long enough, it's only been about 6 years or so. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 06, 2011, 05:04:40 PM
That's actually a change I like. Seeing how many people visit the Atlanta area, they wouldn't know what Midtown was, even though it was obviously over the city of Atlanta itself. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 06, 2011, 10:59:32 PM
That's actually a change I like. Seeing how many people visit the Atlanta area, they wouldn't know what Midtown was, even though it was obviously over the city of Atlanta itself. :no:

True, but I've gotten so accustomed to seeing Midtown there that seeing Atlanta take it's place it looks kinda weird.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on December 09, 2011, 05:23:43 PM
Just thought I'd ask this which may have been answered already but, does anyone know when TWC will start using Christmas music in the LF's? I heard stuff around that it was supposed to happen today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on December 09, 2011, 05:25:55 PM
Just thought I'd ask this which may have been answered already but, does anyone know when TWC will start using Christmas music in the LF's? I heard stuff around that it was supposed to happen today.
See this thread that was already created for the answer to your question:

https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/christmas-2011-playlist/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/christmas-2011-playlist/)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 09, 2011, 07:39:56 PM
The IntelliSTAR station ID looks rather odd. The radio segment is shown, but not the cable headend logo  :hmm:

Are the legacy STARs are still showing their headend logos? Can anyone with an XL or a 4000 confirm?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on December 09, 2011, 08:02:10 PM
There is a glitch that is causing the Radio ID to cue over the Cable Provider.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 10, 2011, 09:00:44 PM
Oh no, I think the dual feed errors may have finally ended... the 8:58 PM ET LF had normal music without a sponsor. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on December 11, 2011, 08:28:52 AM
CHRISTMAS PLAYLIST IS ON!!!  :lol: :biggrin: :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on December 12, 2011, 01:09:36 AM
The IntelliSTAR station ID looks rather odd. The radio segment is shown, but not the cable headend logo  :hmm:

Are the legacy STARs are still showing their headend logos? Can anyone with an XL or a 4000 confirm?
My XL has not displayed  the ID or logo for a  while now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on December 12, 2011, 08:00:45 AM
Mine hasn't been showing anything, not even a dot
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 13, 2011, 12:03:37 PM
Has anyone seen Unknown Precipitation on the lHDl LF before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGp9vf3yx0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGp9vf3yx0#ws)

at Eric's request it's on NYC on the 1st video and throughout the 2nd LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on December 13, 2011, 12:23:05 PM
No, I've never seen it before.  It must be even more interesting to see that on a local Star-based local forecast!

I'd like to pass on a little request, if you don't mind.  If you want us to notice something, but post a four and a half minute video for us to find it in, it might be helpful if you tell us where to look: what part of the screen, and, most importantly, how far into the video we have to look.  My eyes were going back and forth between the LDL and the maps waiting for this to show up, knowing it wouldn't be long, and I was dreading having to watch over four minutes before I could find it.  Fortunately, I didn't have to wait that long, but I still didn't enjoy not knowing where to look or how long I'd have to look.

So, to those who are also interested: look on the LDL for the current conditions from New York City.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on December 13, 2011, 01:08:59 PM
Has anyone seen Unknown Precipitation on the lHDl LF before?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGp9vf3yx0#ws[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGp9vf3yx0#ws[/url])
No, but I've already seen it on the SD sat LF a few times. For that CC, it just uses the cloudy icon, AFAIK.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 13, 2011, 03:44:18 PM
Has anyone seen Unknown Precipitation on the lHDl LF before?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGp9vf3yx0#ws[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGp9vf3yx0#ws[/url])
No, but I've already seen it on the SD sat LF a few times. For that CC, it just uses the cloudy icon, AFAIK.

Not sure about you, but I certainly have.. back in 2009
Back to Back TWC HD Satellite LFs- HiRAD Outage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnQ98tR4HZI#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on December 15, 2011, 10:04:25 AM
I've seen it on our IS and NWS report a long time ago. It was in winter time, I remember that much.

Also, I kept looking for something on the radar. Yes, definitely let people know what we're looking for. haha I would never have noticed that.  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 16, 2011, 09:29:31 PM
Remember that music glitch on the first day of the Christmas 2008 playlist? I just now heard that same party-like noise in a commercial on the radio, so apparently it's a production track somewhere. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on December 16, 2011, 09:36:51 PM
Remember that music glitch on the first day of the Christmas 2008 playlist? I just now heard that same party-like noise in a commercial on the radio, so apparently it's a production track somewhere. :huh:
I think I know which commercial you are talking about. I heard it too. :P I kind of cringe when I listen to that glitch though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 16, 2011, 09:58:06 PM
Remember that music glitch on the first day of the Christmas 2008 playlist? I just now heard that same party-like noise in a commercial on the radio, so apparently it's a production track somewhere. :huh:
I think I know which commercial you are talking about. I heard it too. :P I kind of cringe when I listen to that glitch though.
I heard it on 94.9 if that's where you heard it too :lol: haha
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 19, 2011, 11:22:46 AM
They cued the 60 second flavor at :19   :hmm:

Is this a hint of a possible new flavor lineup?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 19, 2011, 11:54:39 AM
...then they cued the 60 second flavor again at :49  :thumbdown:

I hope this isn't going to be a permanent thing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on December 19, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
Eh...no big deal. Let's be thankful that there is at least a :60 LF rather than a squeezeback.  :itsok:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 19, 2011, 12:30:29 PM
They cued the 60 second flavor at :19   :hmm:

Is this a hint of a possible new flavor lineup?
Probably not.

Martin can fill us in though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on December 19, 2011, 12:35:12 PM
Well, technically it isn't a "Local on the 8s" if they're cuing the forecast at :19 or :49. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 19, 2011, 12:42:23 PM
Oh, Andy. :P

Anyways, I wouldn't be complaining.. a fullscreen 60-second local is better than the squeezeback locals, IMO.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 19, 2011, 04:03:23 PM
Yes, much better than no full LF at all. As long as they still got 2 mins I'm fine with it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 20, 2011, 09:22:20 AM
Looks like the cc narration is gone too during the flavor

New 1 Minute Express Flavor during Daytime Programming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP0g3QSUsMQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 22, 2011, 11:50:26 AM
Either this is a glitch or my IntelliStar can't tell time because it's still displaying a Dense Fog Advisory nearly 4 hours after it expired.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 22, 2011, 12:02:03 PM
Speaking of glitches, did anyone see that the glitch with the station ID segment has now been fixed? Now the cable/satellite provider logos are showing again  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 22, 2011, 12:05:45 PM
No.. because I was on the HD feed :P

Good to see it fixed.. now you IS viewers can enjoy seeing the different ID screens! :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 22, 2011, 02:58:19 PM
TWC finally went Hip Hop  :bleh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3bUhmPaeDk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3bUhmPaeDk#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 22, 2011, 03:09:07 PM
Nah, they've been hip hop already :P

DirecTV Local Forecast - 1/23/2011 - 11:38 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujXrWOuJvCg#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 22, 2011, 03:13:53 PM
Either this is a glitch or my IntelliStar can't tell time because it's still displaying a Dense Fog Advisory nearly 4 hours after it expired.  :P

This is definitely a glitch, it's still showing up as of now.

EDIT: Nevermind, it's been corrected.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 22, 2011, 03:15:46 PM
Nah, they've been hip hop already :P
Dat HIPPITY HOP! :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 22, 2011, 03:20:46 PM
Nah, they've been hip hop already :P

DirecTV Local Forecast - 1/23/2011 - 11:38 AM ET ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujXrWOuJvCg#[/url])

I had a feeling you were going to do that :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 23, 2011, 04:08:39 AM
TWC finally went Hip Hop  :bleh:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3bUhmPaeDk#ws[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3bUhmPaeDk#ws[/url])

I really like this open. :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 23, 2011, 10:44:00 AM
TWC finally went Hip Hop  :bleh:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3bUhmPaeDk#ws[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3bUhmPaeDk#ws[/url])

I really like this open. :biggrin:

I have to agree with that :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on December 23, 2011, 11:15:07 AM
But no new TWC lot8's holiday opener could beat the ones like this:

TWC Local Forecast Christmas 2004 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0eObTcjpTU#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on December 23, 2011, 11:17:15 AM
Where did you find that video? :wow: It's my IntelliStar back in the good 'ol days!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on December 23, 2011, 11:31:06 AM
Where did you find that video? :wow: It's my IntelliStar back in the good 'ol days!
YT user publisher73 has some more clips from the Memphis area.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 24, 2011, 05:53:35 PM
Dish Network DishHOME Weather 12/24/2011 1:28PM PST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS_cOL5esBY#)

For those of you who have Dish Network and haven't checked out the DishHOME weather app in a while, here it is, with updated graphics.

It seems that they are now using the 2006-2011 IS icons much like DirecTV's weather apps  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on December 24, 2011, 07:12:04 PM
Oh, I'm not a fan of that app at all!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on December 24, 2011, 11:12:03 PM
But no new TWC lot8's holiday opener could beat the ones like this:

TWC Local Forecast Christmas 2004 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0eObTcjpTU#[/url])


Ahh, how I miss the "Live By It" openers. Good memories.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Donovan on December 25, 2011, 09:11:22 PM
This App would be okay if it wasn't so slow to load and the radar was focused in on your area more... I've only used this on a handful of occasions before I had my weather station to check the temps while in bed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 02, 2012, 11:20:57 PM
Not sure if anyone knows this, but several of Steve Glotzer's tunes that were used on TWC in the past are available on iTunes under the artist listing PM Steve Glotzer! :thrilled:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 13, 2012, 07:50:45 PM
Is Linus & Lucy still ok to upload? I don't care if they tag the video with an ID, but is it still ok to put up w/o being muted? I don't want to waste my time putting it up if it will be because it's going to be together in a compilation of other LFs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on January 13, 2012, 08:11:42 PM
Is Linus & Lucy still ok to upload? I don't care if they tag the video with an ID, but is it still ok to put up w/o being muted? I don't want to waste my time putting it up if it will be because it's going to be together in a compilation of other LFs.


I believe it has been unmuted and/or unb& for everybody.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on January 23, 2012, 07:23:53 PM
PDS Tornado Watch

TWC - Memphis IntelliStar - Tornado Watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVLGJcTMPUI#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on January 26, 2012, 11:45:40 AM
The LDL Squeeze Back has returned.
At 11:38am & 11:48 ET as you try to watch the local forecast a promo for Coast Guard Alaska is playing.
When the promo ends so does the local forecast and we go back to programming full screen.
I don't like it and I hope people complain and they give up on the LDL Squeeze Back except for storm coverage.
At least they are not doing it during actual programming.
This is from the cable HD feed with no IS2 on FiOS. The SD feed has the same format.
LDL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q9sylglTug#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 26, 2012, 12:23:08 PM
Oh nooo!!! The L-bar has returned!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGXZmTMMwQk#)

Here's what the L-bar looks like with the IS, slightly modified from the 2011 version.

I sure hope this won't be a permanent thing  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on January 26, 2012, 12:39:20 PM
The video window on the SD feed still shows the 4:3 letterboxed video incorrectly.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on January 26, 2012, 12:58:24 PM
It really doesn't matter to me at this point, as long as rock music continues to be used.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 26, 2012, 01:11:51 PM
It's returned... with an ad scroll!!!  Good heavens... I think that means they're so serious about using it again that they're willing to put the ad scroll on it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 26, 2012, 01:17:12 PM
I'm curious as to why putting something that minor as an ad crawl in had to take several months, the other changes they made are so minor they aren't worth pointing out.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on January 26, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
...so the ad crawl on the squeezeback is new?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 26, 2012, 02:38:09 PM
...so the ad crawl on the squeezeback is new?

Yep, but that's about it and modified some of the forecast products and fonts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on January 26, 2012, 02:48:45 PM
At least it looks a little better than it did back when it first started. Our IS2 is down still (for a month) so I don't know what it looks like on the HD version.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 26, 2012, 03:47:07 PM
Also, the logo overlay is the same one that was seen on TWC HD for the LDA/LDA LDL combo from March 2010 through September 2010, instead of the rotating TWC, TWC Mobile, and weather.com seen on 2:00 locals for satellite viewers
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on January 26, 2012, 04:16:03 PM
What bull. It might not be a permanent thing, they're just be using it to gain views for Coast Guard Alaska and they might stop after about a week or so.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 26, 2012, 04:23:40 PM
What bull. It might not be a permanent thing, they're just be using it to gain views for Coast Guard Alaska and they might stop after about a week or so.
I doubt it has anything to do with CGA promotion.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on January 26, 2012, 04:49:40 PM
Well yeah, hopefully they end the L-Bar and use it during Long-form programming instead. I can't tell much because I've only watched one LF of it.
If they were doing this to get a few more commercials in like they did several months ago, they would cue it on the 0's. So it would be Local on the 0's  :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 26, 2012, 05:33:28 PM
Or maybe ppl were complaining about the rock music so they are using the LBar as a means of showing fewer full screen lfs and in turn, fewer opportunities to notice the music change
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 26, 2012, 05:42:10 PM
Or maybe ppl were complaining about the rock music so they are using the LBar as a means of showing fewer full screen lfs and in turn, fewer opportunities to notice the music change

I really think it's just so when they have extended coverage, they can save time by having shorter forecasts and more airtime. At this point I don't care about them having the sqeezeback cut back on LFs. I don't watch TWC that much nowadays anyway except at times when they bother to give a damn about doing severe weather coverage.  <_< :rolleyes: Today can be an exception since there aren't any warnings out and haven't been for a while.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 26, 2012, 05:58:45 PM
It's really a shame to see TWC shooting themselves in the foot. But with the shit music they play nowadays, I doubt it makes any difference
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 26, 2012, 06:02:58 PM
Guys, I think the return of the L-Bar/squeezeback is for good. ;)  Remember several months ago when they removed it, the reason being for "little tweaks?"  Well, I think the addition of the ad-crawl, and whatever else they changed, are the "little tweaks" they did.  Why it would take that long to ad an ad-crawl and make many miniscule tweaks is beyond me.

What I don't understand is why TWC is only showing this 2 times an hour.  Maybe it is still in a "beta test" and will soon be implemented?  Also, from the videos you all posted, I noticed that they are showing an ad in the video screen section instead of live coverage.  Seems odd to me, unless TWC is now despearately relying on more ads, but I will admit that a squeezeback with live coverage was very distracting.  What do I focus on?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 26, 2012, 06:07:56 PM
Guys, I think the return of the L-Bar/squeezeback is for good. ;)  Remember several months ago when they removed it, the reason being for "little tweaks?"  Well, I think the addition of the ad-crawl, and whatever else they changed, are the "little tweaks" they did.  Why it would take that long to ad an ad-crawl and make many miniscule tweaks is beyond me.

What I don't understand is why TWC is only showing this 2 times an hour.  Maybe it is still in a "beta test" and will soon be implemented?  Also, from the videos you all posted, I noticed that they are showing an ad in the video screen section instead of live coverage.  Seems odd to me, unless TWC is now despearately relying on more ads, but I will admit that a squeezeback with live coverage was very distracting.  What do I focus on?
I think you got that mixed up with full-screen locals.. the squeezebacks are 4 times an hour. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 26, 2012, 06:15:41 PM
Guys, I think the return of the L-Bar/squeezeback is for good. ;)  Remember several months ago when they removed it, the reason being for "little tweaks?"  Well, I think the addition of the ad-crawl, and whatever else they changed, are the "little tweaks" they did.  Why it would take that long to ad an ad-crawl and make many miniscule tweaks is beyond me.

What I don't understand is why TWC is only showing this 2 times an hour.  Maybe it is still in a "beta test" and will soon be implemented?  Also, from the videos you all posted, I noticed that they are showing an ad in the video screen section instead of live coverage.  Seems odd to me, unless TWC is now despearately relying on more ads, but I will admit that a squeezeback with live coverage was very distracting.  What do I focus on?
I think you got that mixed up with full-screen locals.. the squeezebacks are 4 times an hour. ;)

Oops.  :P  Well, that make more sense then.

Two more things I don't like:
1. I wish they would bring back the rotating logo (TWC, weather.com, TWC mobile)
2. Though I don't want a debate on this, I wish the clock was back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 26, 2012, 07:37:23 PM
...so the ad crawl on the squeezeback is new?

I never saw it until the squeezebacks were reintroduced and slightly retooled.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 26, 2012, 11:53:35 PM
Ugh, :censored: you too TWC. :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 27, 2012, 12:00:46 AM
Ugh, :censored: you too TWC. :angry: :angry:

You upset, Mike? :P

To my knowledge, the squeezeback was not used during WCL this evening.  I think this was the case before, so what are the shows that use it?  IMO, as much as we all hate it, I think TWC should be consistent with its use.  Either use it for all programming, or not at all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 27, 2012, 12:17:55 AM
I'm guessing it's only for Day Planner, just like the case with the one minute LFs in 2009.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on January 27, 2012, 07:32:06 AM
If they are going to do a squeezeback, DirecTV could, at the least, develop a squeezeback app.


Paul @ 6:46am: "We always will guarantee you a local on the 8's on The Weather Channel!"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on January 27, 2012, 09:41:38 AM
Looks like they don't cue it during YWT either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 27, 2012, 10:58:40 AM
I won't be surprised if the L-Bar is gone in march with a new playlist starting.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 27, 2012, 12:57:19 PM
Remember, the last time the L Bar came into effect they weren't implemented during the late overnight hours or morning hours. They only implemented them from 11:08am to 1:48am in the overnight hours.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 27, 2012, 02:01:31 PM
I won't be surprised if the L-Bar is gone in march with a new playlist starting.

Not to try to bash you here, but honestly, what does a playlist have to do with anything? :dunno:  I wouldn't think that TWC would develop a squeezeback and air it for two months just because the playlist was getting stale.  Could be wrong, though.  I'm not the mind of TWC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: spinnerwv on January 27, 2012, 06:13:08 PM
I got this email from my cable provider this past September when I inquired about the squeezeback.

Thanks for writing to Shentel. I did not have immediate answers to your questions, so I had to go investigate. Here is what I have found out.

You are correct. About three weeks ago, the Weather Channel changed the Star Platform to only show local on the 8s at :28 and :58 past the hour. We will not be upgrading to Intellistar because TWC has announced an entirely new platform that is supposed to be even better and they have run out of Intellistars. So we have to make do until the new option is ready which our engineering guy said it would be mid-1012.


I'm guessing all intellistars will be upgraded to the new platform and all remaining headends will upgrade to the intellistar.  I hope they retire the legacy stars.  I just can't see TWC using 5 different Star platforms out in the field.    I just remembered about the email or i would have posted it back in Sept.  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on January 27, 2012, 06:28:45 PM
I got this email from my cable provider this past September when I inquired about the squeezeback.

Thanks for writing to Shentel. I did not have immediate answers to your questions, so I had to go investigate. Here is what I have found out.

You are correct. About three weeks ago, the Weather Channel changed the Star Platform to only show local on the 8s at :28 and :58 past the hour. We will not be upgrading to Intellistar because TWC has announced an entirely new platform that is supposed to be even better and they have run out of Intellistars. So we have to make do until the new option is ready which our engineering guy said it would be mid-1012.


I'm guessing all intellistars will be upgraded to the new platform and all remaining headends will upgrade to the intellistar.  I hope they retire the legacy stars.  I just can't see TWC using 5 different Star platforms out in the field.    I just remembered about the email or i would have posted it back in Sept.  :)

Finally! The Intellistar's graphics are outdated and I am glad that they will upgrade there Stars to look modernized and not outdated.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 27, 2012, 06:37:07 PM
I got this email from my cable provider this past September when I inquired about the squeezeback.

Thanks for writing to Shentel. I did not have immediate answers to your questions, so I had to go investigate. Here is what I have found out.

You are correct. About three weeks ago, the Weather Channel changed the Star Platform to only show local on the 8s at :28 and :58 past the hour. We will not be upgrading to Intellistar because TWC has announced an entirely new platform that is supposed to be even better and they have run out of Intellistars. So we have to make do until the new option is ready which our engineering guy said it would be mid-1012.


I'm guessing all intellistars will be upgraded to the new platform and all remaining headends will upgrade to the intellistar.  I hope they retire the legacy stars.  I just can't see TWC using 5 different Star platforms out in the field.    I just remembered about the email or i would have posted it back in Sept.  :)
Wonder why your headend refuses to upgrade.. if there's enough hype from viewers, they should. The IntelliStar actually costs less than the XL from what I hear, which is quite ironic if your headend refuses to upgrade.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: spinnerwv on January 27, 2012, 06:59:14 PM
Wonder why your headend refuses to upgrade.. if there's enough hype from viewers, they should. The IntelliStar actually costs less than the XL from what I hear, which is quite ironic if your headend refuses to upgrade.

I've wondered that myself.   They actually bought our cable system about 2 years ago.  Upgrading to an Intellistar  was prob on the bottom of their to-do list.  They will most likely upgrade to the new platform when it becomes available and skip the Intellistar.  I remember when it was Time Warner they went from a 3000 to the XL.

What will the new STAR be called?  Any ideas?   If it looks like the HD Star.  I think Intellistar XL would be cool.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on January 27, 2012, 07:25:21 PM
I hope they'll at least be keeping the Intellistar 2. They only worked on it for 2 years now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 27, 2012, 09:14:56 PM
Alright, I've got a couple questions to ask about this e-mail:


Thanks for writing to Shentel. I did not have immediate answers to your questions, so I had to go investigate. Here is what I have found out.

You are correct. About three weeks ago, the Weather Channel changed the Star Platform to only show local on the 8s at :28 and :58 past the hour. We will not be upgrading to Intellistar because TWC has announced an entirely new platform that is supposed to be even better and they have run out of Intellistars. So we have to make do until the new option is ready which our engineering guy said it would be mid-1012.

What do they mean by TWC has "run out of IntelliSTARs?" :blink:  I didn't think something like this could "run out."

Also, to respond to some of you, I can't imagine that TWC will be developing a new STAR, considering they just released the IS2 a couple of years ago.  This "new platform" almost sounds like the squeezeback will be the new "LOT8s."  This does not explain what the fate will be of the IS2; can't believe they would ditch something like that so quickly, unless it's got to do with money.

And, unless TWC gains great profits from it, I don't think the playlist disappearing would matter to the company or the average viewer.  I know some might miss it, but I don't think that's their primary concern. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on January 27, 2012, 09:32:39 PM
Also, to respond to some of you, I can't imagine that TWC will be developing a new STAR, considering they just released the IS2 a couple of years ago.  This "new platform" almost sounds like the squeezeback will be the new "LOT8s."  This does not explain what the fate will be of the IS2; can't believe they would ditch something like that so quickly, unless it's got to do with money.

And, unless TWC gains great profits from it, I don't think the playlist disappearing would matter to the company or the average viewer.  I know some might miss it, but I don't think that's their primary concern. ;)

I believe that the new STAR there developing would probably be used only on the SD channel to replace the aging Inteillistar. I don't think the squeezeback will replace the LOT8s and will probably be used in Long-form programs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 27, 2012, 09:35:13 PM
it's nice to know a new platform is coming out, now there is something to look forward to in 2012  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on January 28, 2012, 05:27:44 PM
it's nice to know a new platform is coming out, now there is something to look forward to in 2012  :P

Wouldn't hold my breath on that. If they are developing a new platform-and it's not the squeezeback, big if-it probably won't come out this year. Look how much time was spent developing the IS 2.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on January 28, 2012, 06:30:14 PM
Well either way I'd be in favor of a new designed STAR whether good or bad. I'd like to see new icons as well on the new STAR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on January 28, 2012, 06:31:40 PM
Also, to respond to some of you, I can't imagine that TWC will be developing a new STAR, considering they just released the IS2 a couple of years ago.  This "new platform" almost sounds like the squeezeback will be the new "LOT8s."  This does not explain what the fate will be of the IS2; can't believe they would ditch something like that so quickly, unless it's got to do with money.

And, unless TWC gains great profits from it, I don't think the playlist disappearing would matter to the company or the average viewer.  I know some might miss it, but I don't think that's their primary concern. ;)

I believe that the new STAR there developing would probably be used only on the SD channel to replace the aging Inteillistar. I don't think the squeezeback will replace the LOT8s and will probably be used in Long-form programs.
Why would TWC release a new SD-only STAR? Think about it, they could possibly save TONS of money by having cable companies show the HD feed (letterboxed, similar to CNN and Fox News) on the SD channel if they have an IS2. Not to mention that, yes, the Intellistar is aging but, it's built on much better technology and hardware than 4000s and XLs were, they were built to last, and they will last.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 28, 2012, 07:10:46 PM
I think you've got it backwards Evan.. a new STAR to head ends for TWC would actually be beneficial since the units are leased (?), and a subscription to TWC

anyways.. full screen LF @ :08 now.. is this only on DP/WN?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 28, 2012, 08:13:29 PM
anyways.. full screen LF @ :08 now.. is this only on DP/WN?
Yes... hopefully it stays that way.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Patricius Maximus on January 29, 2012, 08:30:59 AM
Apparently the "squeezeback attack" has been repulsed. For what it's worth, I got this reply from a message I sent to TWC via their feedback page:

Quote
We we were just doing some testing that has ended. Your lot8s have returned to normal.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 29, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
Now if only the January/February 2012 playlist was just a "test"... :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 29, 2012, 11:25:57 AM
i would love to see pictures or some specs on the new platform  :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 29, 2012, 11:34:34 AM
i would love to see pictures or some specs on the new platform  :happy:
We don't even know if it's out yet.. :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on January 29, 2012, 11:43:17 AM
Well either way I'd be in favor of a new designed STAR whether good or bad. I'd like to see new icons as well on the new STAR.


I liked the ORIGINAL Intellistar (not XL) icons, from 2007.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 29, 2012, 11:44:03 AM
Smoke on the DirecTV LF

DirecTV HD Local Forecast - Smoke Reported (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bOR_86410A#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 29, 2012, 11:47:51 AM
I emailed the music director. He said, "They decided not to use anymore smooth jazz."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 29, 2012, 11:48:22 AM
Is the music still under the supervision of Picard?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 29, 2012, 11:51:09 AM
I emailed the music director. He said, "They decided not to use anymore smooth jazz."
I find it hard to believe you got a reply... no one else ever gets emails from him. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 29, 2012, 01:28:34 PM
i would love to see pictures or some specs on the new platform  :happy:
We don't even know if it's out yet.. :wacko:

Until Tyler or Martin or other reliable source confirms that there is indeed a new STAR platform, I think we need to be patient and not hold our breath.  Rumors can go a long way, and what if this is one of them?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 29, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
i would love to see pictures or some specs on the new platform  :happy:
We don't even know if it's out yet.. :wacko:

Until Tyler or Martin or other reliable source confirms that there is indeed a new STAR platform, I think we need to be patient and not hold our breath.  Rumors can go a long way, and what if this is one of them?

I agree, I don't believe there's gonna be a new STAR anytime soon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on January 29, 2012, 01:39:27 PM
I don't know, TWC introduces a new STAR every five years or so, and the Intellistar is from 2006 (6 years ago).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 29, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
I don't know, TWC introduces a new STAR every five years or so, and the Intellistar is from 2006 (6 years ago).

Actually 8 years ago (2004) and I said that because the IntelliStar is "supposed" to be far more superior so it should still have quite of hardware life left in it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 29, 2012, 01:50:08 PM
Actually, I think it's the XL that has better hardware, though TWC isn't pushing the O2 to it's full capacity with what the XL does... however, the IS has pretty good hardware to go with it as well. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on January 29, 2012, 05:16:45 PM
I don't know, TWC introduces a new STAR every five years or so, and the Intellistar is from 2006 (6 years ago).

Even if that could be termed "conventional wisdom," it can basically be thrown out the window. Every STAR unit was developed under the previous ownership, with the exception of the IS 2. And just because something seems to have an apparent "pattern" does NOT mean that is why it is being done.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on January 29, 2012, 08:23:48 PM
Actually, I think it's the XL that has better hardware, though TWC isn't pushing the O2 to it's full capacity with what the XL does... however, the IS has pretty good hardware to go with it as well. :yes:


What hardware does the IS have? I never remembered what it had. TWC needed to do SOMETHING with the XL, considering the O2 is capable of some pretty freakin' awesome 3D graphics.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 29, 2012, 08:36:40 PM
I actually am quite surprised that TWC is still using the older STARs. Aren't they going to at least retire all the 4000s and Juniors at some point? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 29, 2012, 09:06:56 PM
Actually, I think it's the XL that has better hardware, though TWC isn't pushing the O2 to it's full capacity with what the XL does... however, the IS has pretty good hardware to go with it as well. :yes:

That's what I don't understand, if they know this then why aren't they taking advantage of it? The IntelliStar is great and all for what it does, but I still would rather have the XL over it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 29, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
There are likely software restrictions that apply to that factor.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 29, 2012, 09:19:59 PM
The XL has so much potential that TWC isn't taking... they could add in video clips of the current on-air graphic animations (albeit not in HD) and it would still work flawlessly. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on January 29, 2012, 10:10:25 PM
I actually am quite surprised that TWC is still using the older STARs. Aren't they going to at least retire all the 4000s and Juniors at some point? :unsure:


Though I do love the 4000 and Junior both, there comes a time that they do indeed need to retire such old equipment. I know that our 4000 crashes every time there is a severe warning that warrants an LDL, and when it doesn't crash, the radar or extended forecast does. We're at a point in time where people want the latest graphics and more, not this old (however vintage) piece of unreliable hardware. If TWC would make the next STAR as they did with the Intellistar (however using a better method) where they could add anything they needed to specific or all units via the internet, that'd be nice.


So, what is everyone's bets on the next name? I say something like Infinistar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 29, 2012, 10:12:19 PM
I'll believe it when I see it, although the news is nevertheless encouraging.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 29, 2012, 10:41:52 PM
TWC Satellite Emergency feed from January 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Z0mpwp0PU#)
Clip courtesy of MrDaniel789

Along with StumbleAudioJazz's clips, Farish apparently might be the new emergency feed music.

Is this the end of Trammell on TWC?   :cry3:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 29, 2012, 10:53:14 PM
I liked the ORIGINAL Intellistar (not XL) icons, from 2007.

They look very good in HD, but they were replaced in SD because they just weren't clear enough.  Precipitation, in my experience, often looked like a hazy grey blob with smaller blobs falling from the clouds.  On a 19" TV I honestly had a hard time telling whether the precipitation was rain, snow, or a mix, and, living in Massachusetts, that made quite a difference.  The smaller the icons got, the harder it was to tell just what was falling.

Yes, they're very realistic, but the clarity in SD just wasn't there, which is why they were replaced.  Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with the current SD graphics.  They're not as realistic, but they're very clear, and that's what's essential in communication.

That said, now that I have access to the Intellistar 2, the realistic icons look fantastic, and there's no confusion about what kind of precipitation is being shown.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 29, 2012, 10:54:05 PM
Smoke on the DirecTV LF

That's probably a rarity!  Pity the icon has that dark blue line drawn around it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 29, 2012, 10:59:53 PM

Along with StumbleAudioJazz's clips, Farish apparently might be the new emergency feed music.

Is this the end of Trammell on TWC?   :cry3:

Oh well, he had a great 16 year run. :itsok:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 29, 2012, 11:01:20 PM

Along with StumbleAudioJazz's clips, Farish apparently might be the new emergency feed music.

Is this the end of Trammell on TWC?   :cry3:

Oh well, he had a great 16 year run. :itsok:
Ditto. :itsok:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 29, 2012, 11:21:40 PM

Along with StumbleAudioJazz's clips, Farish apparently might be the new emergency feed music.

Is this the end of Trammell on TWC?   :cry3:

Oh well, he had a great 16 year run. :itsok:
Ditto. :itsok:

Yikes! :o  I am going to miss Trammell; after 16 years, they're really going to replace his music?!  The emergency feed isn't a regular thing to be shown anyway, so what's the point in updating the music?  Now we can't talk about "Trammell Sightings" anymore...oh I'm sad. :cry:  Maybe it was just a fluke.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 29, 2012, 11:42:11 PM
Yes, that's true, too. Just like how jazz is gone and the LFs are reduced, it's too soon to come up with any radical conclusions. TWC is known to change their content upon viewer complaints/feedback so we're just going to see how these experiments carry out for the time-being
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on January 30, 2012, 01:07:06 AM
TWC Satellite Emergency feed from January 2012 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Z0mpwp0PU#[/url])
Clip courtesy of MrDaniel789

Along with StumbleAudioJazz's clips, Farish apparently might be the new emergency feed music.

Is this the end of Trammell on TWC?   :cry3:

Well TWC has made it clear they are going to ditch the jazz, so it appears that Trammell music is gone.  :( I also hear Oscillate Wildly used as emergency feed music. And as Tavares said, it has been a great 16 year run of Trammell.  ;) Now I wonder what the Intellistar emergency feed music is. It was rather refreshing to hear classics like When Summer Comes and South of Market return for several weeks during longform.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 30, 2012, 12:04:37 PM
TWC Satellite Emergency feed from January 2012 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Z0mpwp0PU#[/url])
Clip courtesy of MrDaniel789

Along with StumbleAudioJazz's clips, Farish apparently might be the new emergency feed music.

Is this the end of Trammell on TWC?   :cry3:

Well TWC has made it clear they are going to ditch the jazz, so it appears that Trammell music is gone.  :( I also hear Oscillate Wildly used as emergency feed music. And as Tavares said, it has been a great 16 year run of Trammell.  ;) Now I wonder what the Intellistar emergency feed music is. It was rather refreshing to hear classics like When Summer Comes and South of Market return for several weeks during longform.


Look on the bright side though, Trammell is NOT completely gone from TWC. Six songs of his still play on Weatherscan.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 30, 2012, 01:27:16 PM

Until Tyler or Martin or other reliable source confirms that there is indeed a new STAR platform, I think we need to be patient and not hold our breath.  Rumors can go a long way, and what if this is one of them?

why would you think the reply it's a rumor? i bet if you asked your cable company you'd get a reply about the platform too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on January 30, 2012, 03:22:32 PM
Now I wonder what the Intellistar emergency feed music is. It was rather refreshing to hear classics like When Summer Comes and South of Market return for several weeks during longform.
I doubt they touch them. TWC hardly ever uses the dual-feed anymore, so why bother going through all the work to send out a potentially-troublesome software update to every domestic IntelliStar to change something that gets heard maybe once every three months if you're lucky?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 30, 2012, 03:56:54 PM

Until Tyler or Martin or other reliable source confirms that there is indeed a new STAR platform, I think we need to be patient and not hold our breath.  Rumors can go a long way, and what if this is one of them?

why would you think the reply it's a rumor? i bet if you asked your cable company you'd get a reply about the platform too.

You can't really take that for gospel either, they could be telling you what you want to hear, not actually knowing what you're talking about. If there's a new STAR in the works, great, but I need more solid proof evidence of this.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 30, 2012, 04:50:34 PM

Until Tyler or Martin or other reliable source confirms that there is indeed a new STAR platform, I think we need to be patient and not hold our breath.  Rumors can go a long way, and what if this is one of them?

why would you think the reply it's a rumor? i bet if you asked your cable company you'd get a reply about the platform too.

Well Alex, if I asked my "cable" company about a new STAR platform, they would probably scratch their heads and wonder what the heck I was talking about, considering my provider is AT&T U-verse and they don't even have a STAR! :rofl:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 30, 2012, 04:57:59 PM

Until Tyler or Martin or other reliable source confirms that there is indeed a new STAR platform, I think we need to be patient and not hold our breath.  Rumors can go a long way, and what if this is one of them?

why would you think the reply it's a rumor? i bet if you asked your cable company you'd get a reply about the platform too.

Well Alex, if I asked my "cable" company about a new STAR platform, they would probably scratch their heads and wonder what the heck I was talking about, considering my provider is AT&T U-verse and they don't even have a STAR! :rofl:

That's something that has always bothered me about them. AT&T U-Verse is supposed to be a cable company right? I don't think it's right that they don't provide a local forecast (STAR), they should be required to do so. Every other cable company (and DirecTV) does so why can't they do the same? Eventhough I can get the forecasts online, I may not have access to the internet or no local news might not be on, I would want to be able to have the ability to see a local forecast and not a national one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: spinnerwv on January 30, 2012, 06:33:11 PM
I emailed Shentel this afternoon here is their reply....

Nice to hear from you, Jimmy.

My engineers said they are not sure of a particular product name, however, Weather Channel engineers told us that they are working on a new platform.  I believe that they said the device would be based on the “Intellistar” platform, but that it would be a completely new platform and not named after the “Intellistar” platform or the “Weather Star” platform.  They said that it would be based off of their HD feed and would allow for HD Local Forecasts.

Hope this is helpful to you.

Cindy
 

Her last sentence sorta confused me.  Don't know if she meant that the new STAR will mirror the graphics they use on the HD STAR or they are going letterbox (like fox and cnn) on the SD feed. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 30, 2012, 06:37:27 PM
Well Alex, if I asked my "cable" company about a new STAR platform, they would probably scratch their heads and wonder what the heck I was talking about, considering my provider is AT&T U-verse and they don't even have a STAR! :rofl:

See I didn't know you had Uverse :P I meant i'd be better if you ask your cable companies director of public relations since they are in close contact with local headend techs.

Her last sentence sorta confused me.  Don't know if she meant that the new STAR will mirror the graphics they use on the HD STAR or they are going letterbox (like fox and cnn) on the SD feed.

from that email it looks to sound like it would mirror the HD Star.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 04, 2012, 11:20:57 AM
Dont think fog has ever been seen on the new SD SLF O_o

(http://i.imgur.com/fEqHL.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 04, 2012, 11:33:04 AM
Dont think fog has ever been seen on the new SD SLF O_o

([url]http://i.imgur.com/fEqHL.jpg[/url])


I'm certain I've seen fog before on the current SD SLF but I can't remember  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on February 04, 2012, 06:49:02 PM
Dont think fog has ever been seen on the new SD SLF O_o

([url]http://i.imgur.com/fEqHL.jpg[/url])


I'm certain I've seen fog before on the current SD SLF but I can't remember  :no:
I've seen it several times already.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 04, 2012, 07:38:35 PM
Thanks for the input guys.. if you remember, I only either watch the HD feed, or whenever I watch the SD feed, my LF app is enabled :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 13, 2012, 06:02:21 AM
It might be premature for me to say this, but it looks like my IntelliStar unit is out, I've been getting the Satellite feed for about the past hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 14, 2012, 09:17:32 AM
It might be premature for me to say this, but it looks like my IntelliStar unit is out, I've been getting the Satellite feed for about the past hour.

A little over 24 hours and it's still out. I'll wait until the end of the week to report it if it's still out then.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 14, 2012, 03:41:23 PM
It might be premature for me to say this, but it looks like my IntelliStar unit is out, I've been getting the Satellite feed for about the past hour.

A little over 24 hours and it's still out. I'll wait until the end of the week to report it if it's still out then.
I wouldnt even wait that long, maybe tomorrow report it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 14, 2012, 06:35:08 PM
It might be premature for me to say this, but it looks like my IntelliStar unit is out, I've been getting the Satellite feed for about the past hour.

A little over 24 hours and it's still out. I'll wait until the end of the week to report it if it's still out then.
I wouldnt even wait that long, maybe tomorrow report it.

Well I didn't want to jump right into reporting it too soon. It seems to be similar to the situation in October 2009 where it was out a couple of days then it came back so that was why I was gonna wait a while before I report it in case they already know and could be fixing or replacing it or something.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 17, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
*sees satellite LDL*

(http://i.imgur.com/xMNp3.jpg)


:P

Actually, it looks like this is a local issue. The local forecast cues normally, but then during the text-based forecast,  it freezes and aborts to the satellite LF. The local LDL never cues then during the proceeding segment. I've had this happen a few times before. Once the junk forecast data that's making the STAR crash is expired, the issue should be solved.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on February 17, 2012, 03:52:56 PM
Definitely a problem locally. My STAR is working fine.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 17, 2012, 04:29:06 PM
Today during my lunch period the teacher I usually help out with had TWC on his TV today, and it seems my school is served by IntelliStar 24629.. (Tampa) :itsok: I would have expected though that the eastern suburbs of Hillsborough County had a different STAR because the weather out here can vary to that of the city of tampa.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 19, 2012, 03:24:00 AM
If TWC is really going to use different genres then the March/April 2012 Playlist will be a test of future playlists to come.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on February 21, 2012, 03:14:28 AM
So have they disabled Vocal Local on all XL units nationwide? Does anyone know?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 21, 2012, 06:12:05 AM
I thought WUWA began dayparting the songs :huh: guess not because Enchanted played at 6:08 AM ET  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 21, 2012, 06:27:11 AM
So have they disabled Vocal Local on all XL units nationwide? Does anyone know?

If that's the case they should do the same to the IS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 21, 2012, 07:58:50 AM
So have they disabled Vocal Local on all XL units nationwide? Does anyone know?

If that's the case they should do the same to the IS.

The whole purpose of the narration of the IS is so people who are visually impaired or have short attention spans can hear the forecast, they're not going to remove it. The XL was limited in narration anyway saying only what 3 phases for the CC, LF, and the EF. so it makes since that they removed it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 21, 2012, 09:32:17 AM
Rushing - Moby at 9:28am EST   :o

Local Forecast 2/21/12 9:28am EST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP-5fnF-x9Y#)



Morning


I'm Not Listening   Gooding   The Return
New Divide   Linkin Park   New Divide- Single
Songbird   Ryan Farish   Bloom
What I Got   Sublime   Sublime
Rough Eyes   The Bunny The Bear   If You Don't Have Anything Nice To Say...
Hidden Hand, Hidden Fist   STS9 - Sound Tribe Sector 9   Peaceblaster
Come Into My World   Ryan Farish   Come Into My World - Single
Eminence Front   The Who   It's Hard (remastered)
End Of Line   Daft Punk   TRON: Legacy
Montana Girl   Gooding   Kingdom 2 Music
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 21, 2012, 10:28:40 AM
Probably disabled because they want to put vocal music  again the future, which doesn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 21, 2012, 12:33:41 PM
Primetime music now playing on daytime.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on February 21, 2012, 01:22:33 PM
So why does it seem like the playlists get all screwed up right before new ones for the next two months are launched? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 21, 2012, 03:48:38 PM
Ah, so apparently that's why I heard Enchanted during WUWA today... :wacko:

11:28 AM ET had Fireworks by Moby and 11:58 AM ET had Time is Tight, both from primetime   :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 23, 2012, 12:38:32 AM
If a new playlist doesn't start later today, it should start either next tuesday (28th) or thursday (1st)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 23, 2012, 06:16:23 AM
were dayparts messed up yesterday? Your Hand In Mine played at 6:08 AM ET this morning
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 23, 2012, 08:36:52 AM
If a new playlist doesn't start later today, it should start either next tuesday (28th) or thursday (1st)
Where did you get the idea that it would start today? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 23, 2012, 12:05:27 PM
Where did you get the idea that it would start today? :unsure:

Because the pattern recently has been either a Tuesday/Thursday and rarely a Friday.

were dayparts messed up yesterday?

Yep, Daytime was mixed up yesterday, i didn't have a chance to hear primetime or overnight though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 23, 2012, 02:33:58 PM
I don't see a new playlist starting until Tuesday the 6th or Thursday the 8th...just my two cents.

BTW, is "Rushing" still playing on the morning list?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on February 23, 2012, 04:47:52 PM
I don't see a new playlist starting until Tuesday the 6th or Thursday the 8th...just my two cents.

BTW, is "Rushing" still playing on the morning list?

I heard it today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 23, 2012, 05:27:29 PM
♥ Rushing.. now if they would play more Moby!! they keep overlooking Sunday for some odd reason :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 24, 2012, 06:11:13 AM
Rushing played at 6:08 AM ET :wub:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 24, 2012, 10:49:54 AM
Rushing played at 6:08 AM ET :wub:

it must be in the March/April 2012 Morning Daypart if it's playing this early, by being mixed in with this list.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 24, 2012, 11:25:25 AM
Instead of assuming, why don't you ask zmelissa and see if she has anything to say? I'm sure she has a better answer than us regarding this issue. Also, it seems like you guys are hearing Rushing only once in the morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 24, 2012, 11:57:46 AM
Instead of assuming, why don't you ask melissa and see if she has anything to say?\

I already have asked her about the rotation issues when Rushing started appearing and since then haven't gotten a reply.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 24, 2012, 12:30:20 PM
It's just a song...I dont get the hype. :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on February 24, 2012, 12:33:00 PM
Rotation issues were happening before the start of the Jan/Feb playlist, if I recall correctly. "Rushing" is a fantastic song, and it's not necessarily a smooth jazz one. If TWC chooses to use contemporary songs like that one, then I'll be very pleased. I think next month's list will be a good precursor of what's to come in the upcoming months.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on February 24, 2012, 03:58:13 PM
Rotation issues were happening before the start of the Jan/Feb playlist, if I recall correctly. "Rushing" is a fantastic song, and it's not necessarily a smooth jazz one. If TWC chooses to use contemporary songs like that one, then I'll be very pleased. I think next month's list will be a good precursor of what's to come in the upcoming months.
Rushing is a classic. :yes:  If they aren't bringing back smooth jazz, I'd like to see more new age music like that and artists like 7and5.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 26, 2012, 10:49:50 AM
It's not often you see Scattered Strong Thunderstorms in the local forecast 3 days in advance (well actually 4 because it was there yesterday also). Yet, it's still not enough to warrant one of those mets to add a red tag to the LF.  :no:
Am I going to have to resort to scolding them to get them to add one?  :poke: :punish: :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on February 26, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
Really? That's odd. There are three tags on mine, and they're calling for possible severe weather when there is only isolated thunderstorms. It's too sensitive on mine and not enough on yours, for some reason.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 26, 2012, 01:56:22 PM
Uploaded today...
WeatherStar 4000 - Seven Springs, PA - 02/26/2012 658am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUwlZ4pqh0#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 26, 2012, 02:16:31 PM
Really? That's odd. There are three tags on mine, and they're calling for possible severe weather when there is only isolated thunderstorms. It's too sensitive on mine and not enough on yours, for some reason.

And of course they removed it changing it to Scattered Thunderstorms. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on February 26, 2012, 02:30:16 PM
Really? That's odd. There are three tags on mine, and they're calling for possible severe weather when there is only isolated thunderstorms. It's too sensitive on mine and not enough on yours, for some reason.

And of course they removed it changing it to Scattered Thunderstorms. :rolleyes:

Hey, we've got a red tag for Tuesday, but the forecast doesn't even say "strong" storms...just scattered t-storms/wind. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on February 26, 2012, 04:57:51 PM
Yikes - that 4000 is in awful condition, except, interestingly, for the radar!  I must admit, though, that it makes for some very interesting visual effects.

Have you made any effort to contact TWC or the Star team here to get the problem looked at?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on February 26, 2012, 05:04:38 PM
I guess that poor unit is really taking a lack of rest hard. Also, I guess the moon is made out of cheese after all!

Anyone else a little annoyed that the local forecast pretty much always starts at the 9's except for at :28 and :58? Might as well change the name because it's pretty misleading at this point, even though I doubt they will because of the historical aspect of its name.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 26, 2012, 05:13:05 PM
Have you made any effort to contact TWC or the Star team here to get the problem looked at?
It's not my 4000  :no: the ST wouldnt be able to take care of it either its a totally diff department

Anyone else a little annoyed that the local forecast pretty much always starts at the 9's except for at :28 and :58? Might as well change the name because it's pretty misleading at this point, even though I doubt they will because of the historical aspect of its name.
Thats because the LFs at :08/:38 and :18/:48 are not full 2:00 LFs.. also, I dont know about you but those LFs dont always start at :x9 after for me
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 26, 2012, 06:08:53 PM
Uploaded today...
WeatherStar 4000 - Seven Springs, PA - 02/26/2012 658am ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUwlZ4pqh0#[/url])


Why is Living playing on that LF? (Johnstown is in EST). Isn't it an overnight song O_o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 26, 2012, 06:16:53 PM
Uploaded today...
WeatherStar 4000 - Seven Springs, PA - 02/26/2012 658am ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUwlZ4pqh0#[/url])


Why is Living playing on that LF? (Johnstown is in EST). Isn't it an overnight song O_o

I thought you knew about the playlist issues? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 26, 2012, 07:55:07 PM
Yikes - that 4000 is in awful condition, except, interestingly, for the radar!  I must admit, though, that it makes for some very interesting visual effects.
The radar usually doesn't degrade much when there isn't precipitation on it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on February 26, 2012, 09:48:08 PM
Sometimes, the 4000 switches color pallets on the radar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 27, 2012, 07:42:19 AM
FINALLY! I only had to use some "forceful" convincing to get this to show up. :club:

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6677/capture20120227073049.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/capture20120227073049.jpg/)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 27, 2012, 03:20:16 PM
Yikes - that 4000 is in awful condition, except, interestingly, for the radar!  I must admit, though, that it makes for some very interesting visual effects.
The radar usually doesn't degrade much when there isn't precipitation on it.

That isnt necessarily true.. this 4000 had the same amount of precip on it as the one above yet it still has degradation to it

TWC Local Forecast: Carrington, North Dakota 6/22/09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ciqj64JFnY#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on February 27, 2012, 08:42:23 PM
FINALLY! I only had to use some "forceful" convincing to get this to show up. :club:

([url]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6677/capture20120227073049.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/capture20120227073049.jpg/[/url])

TWC should only use that text discription box for either severe weather like the one in the picture above or any even use that little box to display the 30 day outlook durring non-severe weather events (like what the 3000 and 4000 used to have). I personly don't like that EF discription box most of the time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 01, 2012, 10:32:14 AM
Has anyone seen the Snow/Fog icon on the Intellistar? it only showed up as the normal snow icon on my istar's CC page.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on March 04, 2012, 08:01:15 PM
I've noticed this weekend the music on the LF for all day parts has been the same coming from the evening playlist.
Will they be changing it up soon?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jrhtwc on March 05, 2012, 03:22:40 PM
The LO8 L Bar is back this PM. Look for it this afternoon. It wasn't on at 2:18PM CT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on March 05, 2012, 04:43:44 PM
Yep, I saw the lovely L-bar at 3:38 CST. I recall TWC taking it down for some "fixing up." I wouldn't be surprised if it's back for good in the near future.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on March 05, 2012, 07:27:58 PM
So much wasted space on the National HD feed since they don't format for 16:9.
This layout is useless and should only be using during storm coverage.
(http://t.imgbox.com/aazVJN15.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/aazVJN15)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 05, 2012, 07:38:02 PM
So much wasted space on the National HD feed since they don't format for 16:9.
This layout is useless and should only be using during storm coverage.
([url]http://t.imgbox.com/aazVJN15.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imgbox.com/aazVJN15[/url])

Or better yet back to its original usage for long form programming as it was intended.. :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on March 05, 2012, 11:52:39 PM
OK, the use of the L-Bar (aka squeezeback) keeps going back and forth and back and forth.  When will TWC make up their minds on this thing? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 06, 2012, 01:38:01 AM
I've noticed this weekend the music on the LF for all day parts has been the same coming from the evening playlist.
Will they be changing it up soon?

it would be nice if TWC did notify us a playlist change is coming, the current rotation issues are really annoying.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 06, 2012, 05:03:39 AM
I've noticed this weekend the music on the LF for all day parts has been the same coming from the evening playlist.
Will they be changing it up soon?

it would be nice if TWC did notify us a playlist change is coming, the current rotation issues are really annoying.
Speaking of which, its becoming an everyday trend for me to notice that "Come Into My World" plays at 11:48 AM ET and "Time Is Tight" at 11:58 AM ET... :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 06, 2012, 10:37:47 AM
A new playlist is being worked on. The mixup of songs is temporary until the March list comes out
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on March 06, 2012, 10:48:10 AM
I've noticed this weekend the music on the LF for all day parts has been the same coming from the evening playlist.
Will they be changing it up soon?

it would be nice if TWC did notify us a playlist change is coming, the current rotation issues are really annoying.
Speaking of which, its becoming an everyday trend for me to notice that "Come Into My World" plays at 11:48 AM ET and "Time Is Tight" at 11:58 AM ET... :wacko:
This is not the first time that has happened. I remember that back in day (1998), a Bryan Savage song would play practically every Saturday morning at some time between 7am and 8am.  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on March 06, 2012, 11:47:38 AM
When will TWC make up their minds on this thing? :blink:

Never! :twothumbs:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 06, 2012, 12:11:16 PM
Have they been using it today?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 06, 2012, 01:12:07 PM
Have they been using it today?

Haven't seen it yet, i won't be surprised if it was only being tested for Ice Pilots.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 06, 2012, 03:46:37 PM
I've noticed this weekend the music on the LF for all day parts has been the same coming from the evening playlist.
Will they be changing it up soon?

it would be nice if TWC did notify us a playlist change is coming, the current rotation issues are really annoying.
Speaking of which, its becoming an everyday trend for me to notice that "Come Into My World" plays at 11:48 AM ET and "Time Is Tight" at 11:58 AM ET... :wacko:
This is not the first time that has happened. I remember that back in day (1998), a Bryan Savage song would play practically every Saturday morning at some time between 7am and 8am.  ;)
Hmm, that wasnt the case today.. :thinking: the Smokey's Farmland Band daytime song played at 11:48 but the dayparts are still mixed up because Enchanted played at 6:08 AM ET (another song at a typical time :itsok:) and a primetime song played at 11:28 AM ET (cant remember which one though)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on March 06, 2012, 04:11:20 PM
The LDL Squeeze back was not used 11am-2pm, It's back for the 2pm-5pm edition of Day Planner used at 8min after the hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 08, 2012, 02:09:47 PM
looks like my Istar finally decided to act up

New Bedford IntelliStar's Constant Struggles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CBMpxoagSE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 08, 2012, 03:52:47 PM
looks like my Istar finally decided to act up

New Bedford IntelliStar's Constant Struggles ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CBMpxoagSE#[/url])

That's just a sun outage though :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on March 08, 2012, 10:42:53 PM
looks like my Istar finally decided to act up

New Bedford IntelliStar's Constant Struggles ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CBMpxoagSE#[/url])

That's just a sun outage though :wacko:


Ditto, the Bozeman, MT IntelliStar has been having similar issues all day.
EDIT: The ditto was in regards to Zach's post.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on March 09, 2012, 01:23:29 AM
The STAR itself or the feed?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 09, 2012, 05:00:51 AM
The STAR itself or the feed?
Both, actually. The LDL didn't receive the signal to shut off for commercials when the feed went blank. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on March 09, 2012, 06:57:01 AM
I think I heard a new song on the HD LF at 5:48 CST. The Standford-definition LF didn't play one at that time.

Sorry, nevermind. False alarm I am ready for a playlist change, though. I did hear a song that I don't recall 10 mins ago, but I guess it wasn't a new one.

Nope, I was right the first time! New songs are in the mix. Just heard "11, 12 & 13" by David Holmes. I love that song. :) I didn't hear it on standard LF though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on March 10, 2012, 10:45:44 AM
Yeah, Wichita, KS and Topeka, KS were both doing the same thing that day. I chalked it up to the solar storm.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 10, 2012, 11:33:14 AM
Just saw 24131 use the old LOT8s logo. O_o

I chalked it up to the solar storm.
It's not just the solar storm to blame.. it was this time of year for the vernal equinox "sun outages" to occur where the sun is in perfect alignment with many communication satellites, thus overpowering the signal. They usually happen in early March and late September, and for 5-15 minutes each afternoon for about a week.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on March 10, 2012, 11:56:42 AM
Today will be exactly 9 years since I ran into TWCClassics, which enabled me to obtain all the classics I thought I could never obtain. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on March 10, 2012, 12:23:49 PM
One upon a time The Weather Channel ran regular PSAs during the equinoxes reminding people of how the sun disrupted satellite signals temporarily.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 11, 2012, 11:19:28 AM
This hasnt happened since July 2008! The emergency feed music running behind the HD LF! :blink:

|||"TWCHD - Satellite Feed Music Plays On HD Local Forecast"||| ((("Stereo Sound"))) 3/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPhbS5gp2Aw#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on March 11, 2012, 05:54:08 PM
Just saw my Intellistar II unexpectedly cue during the middle of CGA then went to a commercial break.  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on March 13, 2012, 03:40:22 PM
DID THEY JUST CUE THE L-BAR AT 3:38PM EDT??????? :wow:

I BELIEVE THEY DID. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 13, 2012, 03:57:46 PM
DID THEY JUST CUE THE L-BAR AT 3:38PM EDT??????? :wow:

I BELIEVE THEY DID. :no:
I assume you havent been watching TWC, because they have been since last week during DPWC at :08/:38 ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on March 13, 2012, 04:28:09 PM
Haha, guess I haven't  :oops:

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on March 13, 2012, 05:30:07 PM
Why only two-times an hour? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 13, 2012, 05:31:44 PM
Why only two-times an hour? :blink:
Because the other 4 LFs are fullscreen locals? :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 13, 2012, 06:04:18 PM
They accidentally cued the XL at 458 CT while they did the squeezeback forecast

Okay.. maybe it's not an accident, it cued again at 528PM CT while they were talking  in the background.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on March 13, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
Why only two-times an hour? :blink:
Because the other 4 LFs are fullscreen locals? :P

No! :P  Only two-times an hour seems silly.  Either do it four/six-times or not at all.  What makes the :08 and :38 times so "special" that a squeezeback is needed?

They accidentally cued the XL at 458 CT while they did the squeezeback forecast

They cued the squeezeback at a :58 time?  This contradicts what Zach had said and what I'm confused about. Maybe it was the other way around; the squeezeback did not cue at the right time and the XL was fine. :thinking:


Why am I being so picky about all of this?  Because consistency is key!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 13, 2012, 06:35:40 PM
4:58 PM CT is a longform LF, not a live program LF ;) the squeezeback LFs are during Day planner, not longform :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 13, 2012, 06:39:18 PM
Sorry, I couldn't see what was going on in the background. I just assumed it was a squeezeback. And, it was just awkward for the XL to  cue two different times (458/528PM CT) with  longform programming in the background instead of LF music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 15, 2012, 06:34:01 PM
For those wondering, the songs on the IS's internal playlist are unchanged. I heard "Return of the Eagle" at 6:28 PM ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on March 15, 2012, 07:44:49 PM
For those wondering, the songs on the IS's internal playlist are unchanged. I heard "Return of the Eagle" at 6:28 PM ET.
Great! If it continues we can finally hear some smooth jazz again (at least those with IS)!  :P :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 15, 2012, 07:55:38 PM
For those wondering, the songs on the IS's internal playlist are unchanged. I heard "Return of the Eagle" at 6:28 PM ET.
Great! If it continues we can finally hear some smooth jazz again (at least those with IS)!  :P :dance:
It may have just been that particular LF though and or only heard around his area ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 16, 2012, 02:13:23 PM
How do I even describe this one?! :blink: :wacko:

Deux Cafe? - March 16, 2012 - 2:08 PM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XnMOrsfzDM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 16, 2012, 07:43:37 PM
How do I even describe this one?! :blink: :wacko:

Deux Cafe? - March 16, 2012 - 2:08 PM ET ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XnMOrsfzDM#[/url])


I actually like that idea with the squeezeback.  :P

You have to be aware that I didnt dub that though :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on March 16, 2012, 08:52:53 PM
Of all the bloopers, this one pretty much negates the whole need for an L-bar in the first place!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on March 16, 2012, 09:11:37 PM
How do I even describe this one?! :blink: :wacko:

Deux Cafe? - March 16, 2012 - 2:08 PM ET ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XnMOrsfzDM#[/url])


I actually like that idea with the squeezeback.  :P

You have to be aware that I didnt dub that though :no:


I know that, I was just saying that sometimes they could play music on the L-bar.  ;) I think someone on here mentioned that a while back. They should make sure that doesn't happen when talking about major events such as tornadoes or severe weather though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 16, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
How do I even describe this one?! :blink: :wacko:

Deux Cafe? - March 16, 2012 - 2:08 PM ET ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XnMOrsfzDM#[/url])


I actually like that idea with the squeezeback.  :P

You have to be aware that I didnt dub that though :no:


I know that, I was just saying that sometimes they could play music on the L-bar.  ;) I think someone on here mentioned that a while back. They should make sure that doesn't happen when talking about major events such as tornadoes or severe weather though.

It was only on the DirecTV IS it happened but i see what u mean
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TV Shows Fan on March 17, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
4:58 PM CT is a longform LF, not a live program LF ;) the squeezeback LFs are during Day planner, not longform :no:
The squeezeback is also used during longform. I've seen it being used at 5:28PM ET, 5:58PM ET, and 6:28PM ET.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 17, 2012, 08:40:26 PM
4:58 PM CT is a longform LF, not a live program LF ;) the squeezeback LFs are during Day planner, not longform :no:
The squeezeback is also used during longform. I've seen it being used at 5:28PM ET, 5:58PM ET, and 6:28PM ET.  :yes:
Yeah I posted that before I saw it myself :P however the DirecTV LF still cues at those time slots :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 17, 2012, 10:31:32 PM
The squeezeback is also used during longform. I've seen it being used at 5:28PM ET, 5:58PM ET, and 6:28PM ET.  :yes:
Wait, no more full LF's during long form now? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on March 17, 2012, 11:15:33 PM
The squeezeback is also used during longform. I've seen it being used at 5:28PM ET, 5:58PM ET, and 6:28PM ET.  :yes:
Wait, no more full LF's during long form now? :blink:
There still are, but they're cuing at about :18 and :48.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on March 17, 2012, 11:25:38 PM
the DirecTV LF still cues at those time slots :blink:

That must be annoying!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 18, 2012, 12:05:37 AM
the DirecTV LF still cues at those time slots :blink:


That must be annoying!!

Not at all, but what IS annoying is when their IS cues too...

(http://i.imgur.com/MmH8p.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 19, 2012, 02:21:40 AM
Looks like I'm having a current conditions outage on my IntelliStar. Anyone else seeing this? No report for all conditions. It doesn't seem to be a HiRAD outage, for other sources (weather.com, etc.) seem to be active.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on March 19, 2012, 07:12:04 PM
The LDL Squeezeback is being used at 7:08pm on WCL.
Only other time it's been used since returning was during the 2pm-5pm hours.
I checked the 3pm hour and it was not used.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on March 29, 2012, 02:17:59 PM
Last Tuesday, new weather icons debuted on weather.com, but the weather icons still use the 2010-Present ones during Live Programming and the SD IntelliStar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on March 29, 2012, 02:23:35 PM
Here's what it look like:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 29, 2012, 03:23:46 PM
Last Tuesday, new weather icons debuted on weather.com, but the weather icons still use the 2010-Present ones during Live Programming and the SD IntelliStar.

For now i was told they are Web/Mobile Only until otherwise noted.

Quote
We do want the icons to be similar across all our platforms, but the process of updating icons on certain STAR computers (ie. older versions would not support new graphics, etc) would not make it possible. While consistency is the overall goal, these icons are more likely only to be on our digital platforms (ie. weather.com, mobile apps, interactive TV apps, etc) for now until we can confirm STAR updating for newer systems.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 29, 2012, 03:48:00 PM
Last Tuesday, new weather icons debuted on weather.com, but the weather icons still use the 2010-Present ones during Live Programming and the SD IntelliStar.
Yes there is already talk in General TWC Duscussion ;)

Here's what it look like:

You could have just used print screen.. I can barely see them because your picture is very dark and small nonetheless :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on March 29, 2012, 05:44:54 PM
I'm sorry, but these new icons are crap. :sick:  I certainly hope they do not debut at any time on live programming/the SD-IS!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 29, 2012, 06:02:30 PM
I'm sorry, but these new icons are crap. :sick:  I certainly hope they do not debut at any time on live programming/the SD-IS!
They don't blend in too well with exclusiveness and uniqueness for TWC IMO <_< they look too much like the icons of other weather info services
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on March 30, 2012, 10:25:18 AM
Talk about contradicting oneself rather efficiently!

On the one hand, they want continuity across all platforms, but, on the other hand, they simultaneously admit that it's not possible because of technical reasons.

I actually have to agree with the latter point.  I remember the days when the current IS2 icon set was used on the IS.  That set simply did not look good on a standard definition display.  I honestly couldn't tell the difference between rain and snow on that set - it looked like random "stuff" falling from a grey cloud against a grey background.  All I could see was "precipitation," not rain or snow.  The current icon set, I think, is much more suited to SD.  It may not be as realistic, but it gets the message across instantly - and THAT is, in my opinion, the most important thing.  On the other hand, the higher resolution of HD means that the IS2 icon set looks fantastic AND is also able to convey its message easily.

(I find it ironic that vocal supporters of the 4000 are often those who criticize the current IS/SD feed icon set.  Really, Lego-block rain is better looking?!)

</rant #2 for the day>
This is what happens when I wake myself up hours earlier than I would have liked because I thrash around when I sleep... and a broken radio that fell off a bedside table is the result.  Two stereo systems have broken within the past couple of months, one just yesterday, because of advanced age, and now this.  I'm running out of equipment!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 30, 2012, 11:01:03 AM
I'm sorry, but these new icons are crap. :sick:  I certainly hope they do not debut at any time on live programming/the SD-IS!

they're not really crap you just might have to get used to the new "realistic" cheeseballs  :bleh:

and with TWC modernizing their image i won't be surprised if they use them on air in the near future.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on April 01, 2012, 08:56:25 AM
Am I the only one not getting any local info at all? Nothing from IS2, thought it was another IS2 outage here... then switched to the SD version, no IS coming on there either!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 01, 2012, 09:52:59 AM
Are your IS/IS2s out or are they working with no data at all?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 01, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
My IS is out also when I checked earlier, still seems to be now because the Satellite LDL is still being shown.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 01, 2012, 10:30:09 AM
Yep, my IntelliStar is out too :thinking: I popped in a DVD to try and capture a reboot if one happens
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 01, 2012, 10:44:35 AM
Maybe its TWC's April Fool's joke  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 01, 2012, 10:49:44 AM
Maybe its TWC's April Fool's joke  :P
Haha, that's exactly what I was thinking :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 01, 2012, 11:03:09 AM
Ah crap, if it is that means I've been tricked twice today already. :pinch:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 01, 2012, 11:05:18 AM
Ah crap, if it is that means I've been tricked twice today already. :pinch:
We dont know for sure if thats the case though xD it could just be coincidental too
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 01, 2012, 11:29:47 AM
Not sure when it came back, but my IntelliStar is back as of 11:28 now
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on April 01, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
Not sure when it came back, but my IntelliStar is back as of 11:28 now

Yeah, they're back up and running now. Thinking it had to do with the control room since none of them were cueing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 01, 2012, 02:47:21 PM
Not sure when it came back, but my IntelliStar is back as of 11:28 now

Yeah, they're back up and running now. Thinking it had to do with the control room since none of them were cueing.
I looked at my recording shortly after I posted that, and they were back at 11:18 AM ET :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 05, 2012, 08:37:36 PM
Can someone give me a list of songs that have been heard so far, including any unknowns?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 07, 2012, 11:58:07 AM
Can someone give me a list of songs that have been heard so far, including any unknowns?
Moby - Inside - Play
Moby - Everloving - Play
Moby - Rushing - Play
Moby - Look Back In - 18
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Behind the Sun (Instrumental Demo) - Ultimate Mofo Party Plan
Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again (Aggro Mix) - Never Let Me Down Again
Kaki King - Night After Sidewalk - Everybody Loves You
Death Cab for Cutie - I Will Possess Your Heart - Narrow Stars
Matthew C. Shuman - Running out of Time - Escape from Reality
Patrick Droney - Everything - The Other Side
The Smithereens - White Castle Blues - White Castle Blues
David Holmes - 11, 12, 13 - Ocean's 13 Soundtrack
David Holmes - $160 Million Chinese Man - Ocean's 11 Soundtrack
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 07, 2012, 12:09:38 PM
I think it's ok to officially refer to this playlist as the "Q1 2012 Playlist" ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 08, 2012, 08:36:56 PM
just like the old days  :bleh:

which means as expected 2008's music will never be replicated.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 08, 2012, 11:26:50 PM
It seems that the cable headend logos and their channel numbers on the station ID segment, cued by the IntelliStar, are missing, but the radio station screens are cuing as normal. At first I thought this might have been a local headend issue with Charter in Astoria, but I saw that Xfinity in Spokane has done it also.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on April 09, 2012, 03:40:45 AM
It seems that the cable headend logos and their channel numbers on the station ID segment, cued by the IntelliStar, are missing, but the radio station screens are cuing as normal. At first I thought this might have been a local headend issue with Charter in Astoria, but I saw that Xfinity in Spokane has done it also.
My unit hasn't showed the logos in well over a year or so. Still shows that little dot in the corner. Can't really confirm if its happening. Perhaps some other members can check?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 09, 2012, 05:07:36 AM
It seems that the cable headend logos and their channel numbers on the station ID segment, cued by the IntelliStar, are missing, but the radio station screens are cuing as normal. At first I thought this might have been a local headend issue with Charter in Astoria, but I saw that Xfinity in Spokane has done it also.
My unit hasn't showed the logos in well over a year or so. Still shows that little dot in the corner. Can't really confirm if its happening. Perhaps some other members can check?
Happening on 24131 as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 10, 2012, 06:13:30 AM
Okay, is it just me or has everyones' IntelliStars just been making popping sounds at random (caused by the "buzz") as of late? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 10, 2012, 04:09:41 PM
Cliffs of Dover at :58 during Storm Riders.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on April 10, 2012, 04:21:00 PM
Cliffs of Dover at :58 during Storm Riders.
Huh?! IS error?  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 10, 2012, 04:34:58 PM
Huh?! IS error?  :huh:

I've been told that playlists have been discontinued for the time being. Music will be changed occasionally as a new group is looking to change the music

;)

Anyways, that is a song I like! :thrilled:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 10, 2012, 05:18:30 PM
Cliffs of Dover at :58 during Storm Riders.
Huh?! IS error?  :huh:

it was on HD too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 13, 2012, 07:54:23 PM
Okay, is it just me or has everyones' IntelliStars just been making popping sounds at random (caused by the "buzz") as of late? :unsure:
...and its just happening every few seconds now :wacko: what is going on? I have never heard 24131 produce any form of the "buzz" ever until just recently :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 15, 2012, 11:04:13 AM
Oops, looks like TWC forgot to put the blue box around this sponsor ad for 24131.. havent seen that happen in quite awhile :P

(http://i.imgur.com/SODD2.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 15, 2012, 07:21:48 PM
Oops, looks like TWC forgot to put the blue box around this sponsor ad for 24131.. havent seen that happen in quite awhile :P

([url]http://i.imgur.com/SODD2.jpg[/url])

OT: is that your directv receiver?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 17, 2012, 05:22:37 PM
I guess were gonna see some severe weather and flooding this weekend. :unsure:

11:58am today
(http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/3/snapshot141720121215pm.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/848/snapshot141720121215pm.png/)

4:58pm today
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1584/snapshot14172012519pm.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/snapshot14172012519pm.png/)


Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 17, 2012, 05:25:55 PM
24629 had the red box for severe weather on Sunday today... obviously some overhype there :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on April 18, 2012, 07:19:58 AM
Oops, looks like TWC forgot to put the blue box around this sponsor ad for 24131.. havent seen that happen in quite awhile :P

([url]http://i.imgur.com/SODD2.jpg[/url])

OT: is that your directv receiver?



No... I believe it is a BOSE system
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on April 20, 2012, 05:00:31 PM
Now that I have 21813, I noticed that it was finally updated with the weather.com text. When was the ad scroll on the squeezeback introduced?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 20, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
Now that I have 21813, I noticed that it was finally updated with the weather.com text. When was the ad scroll on the squeezeback introduced?

It was introduced in January.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 22, 2012, 10:50:18 PM
Eric Clapton's "Signe" has been cleared just fyi. (Well not 100% cleared, you get tagged w/ matching 3rd party, but it still can be listened to worldwide.) :thumbsup:

IntelliStar - August 26, 2009 8:58pm EDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71mxWXayewE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 24, 2012, 06:25:20 AM
Is anyone's IntelliStar out as of now (not later)? I think 24131 just shut off completely because there was no audio on TWC at 6:10 AM for me and the picture looked to be shifted :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 24, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
Is anyone's IntelliStar out as of now (not later)? I think 24131 just shut off completely because there was no audio on TWC at 6:10 AM for me and the picture looked to be shifted :huh:
I looked at my DVD recording and it was indeed a reboot of the IntelliStar! I've never seen that happen on 24131 before! :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on April 25, 2012, 08:59:24 AM
Forgive me for asking this, but how do you tell when HiRAD is out? I have a feeling it was out on my IS yesterday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 25, 2012, 09:09:09 AM
Forgive me for asking this, but how do you tell when HiRAD is out? I have a feeling it was out on my IS yesterday.
If your CC screen uses an airport ob, if only the CC screen and no other CC products show, and if the LDL during programming has N/A cuurents but the LF LDL/CC screen had currents
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on April 25, 2012, 02:37:50 PM
Forgive me for asking this, but how do you tell when HiRAD is out? I have a feeling it was out on my IS yesterday.
If your CC screen uses an airport ob, if only the CC screen and no other CC products show, and if the LDL during programming has N/A cuurents but the LF LDL/CC screen had currents
All of the above happened, so HiRAD was out. The CC screen had MIDWAY INT'L ARPT.* as the obs. on the 6:28 PM or 6:38 LF yesterday--I don't remember which--and after that, Chicago had "No Data Available" on the programming LDL, but the other two cities were fine. By the next LF, it was back to normal.

*Normally, ARPT. does not show.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 25, 2012, 06:01:34 PM
The satellite LDL is still peeking over the IntelliSTAR LDL, which has been going on for months now. Anyone have any idea when they might fix this glitch?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on April 25, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
The satellite LDL is still peeking over the IntelliSTAR LDL, which has been going on for months now. Anyone have any idea when they might fix this glitch?  :unsure:

Months? Try a year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 25, 2012, 06:13:16 PM
The satellite LDL is still peeking over the IntelliSTAR LDL, which has been going on for months now. Anyone have any idea when they might fix this glitch?  :unsure:

Months? Try a year.
Not quite a year, but about 10-11 months
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on April 27, 2012, 05:17:50 PM
 :wacko:
The satellite LDL is still peeking over the IntelliSTAR LDL, which has been going on for months now. Anyone have any idea when they might fix this glitch?  :unsure:

Don't plan on it being fixed. We notice it, because we pay attention to graphics details. The average viewer doesn't notice it, and even if they did, 9 changes out of 10 they wouldn't care.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on April 30, 2012, 01:18:19 AM
Does anyone's IS show the 8-city regularly? On mine, it only seems to show up at random times at :28 and :58.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 30, 2012, 05:03:15 AM
Does anyone's IS show the 8-city regularly? On mine, it only seems to show up at random times at :28 and :58.
That's completely normal on STARs w/o marine products or STARs with marine products and no air quality :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on April 30, 2012, 07:46:03 AM
My IS has the red box for Wednesday…
(https://p.twimg.com/ArugfNBCAAAPbhn.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 30, 2012, 09:38:05 PM
Does anyone's IS show the 8-city regularly? On mine, it only seems to show up at random times at :28 and :58.
It mainly depends on what is on the text-based forecast, i.e. how long it takes to narrate each page, and whether there are 3 or 4 dayparts on it. Then of course the local radar and weather bulletins also can kick the 8-cities off the playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on May 02, 2012, 11:04:50 PM
The text on the bottom of the Week Ahead screen was updated for the redesign:
(http://p.twimg.com/Ar8EEmtCQAA8mK9.jpg)

My IS has the red box for Wednesday…
What severe thunderstorms? Good thing they took the box off yesterday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 03, 2012, 05:07:30 AM
The text on the bottom of the Week Ahead screen was updated for the redesign:
([url]http://p.twimg.com/Ar8EEmtCQAA8mK9.jpg[/url])
What redesign? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on May 03, 2012, 07:40:31 AM
The text on the bottom of the Week Ahead screen was updated for the redesign:
([url]http://p.twimg.com/Ar8EEmtCQAA8mK9.jpg[/url])
What redesign? :unsure:
The weather.com redesign. Oops. :blushing:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on May 03, 2012, 11:42:11 PM
The IntelliSTAR in Astoria, OR isn't showing the marine forecast product and instead skips directly from the air quality forecast to the tides forecast, and the blue LDL and the sponsorship bug (The Facebook/Twitter and others) are running over the satellite LF for the last few seconds (picture shown on attachment.) Anyone else with coastal STARs experiencing this glitch?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 04, 2012, 05:03:19 AM
The IntelliSTAR in Astoria, OR isn't showing the marine forecast product and instead skips directly from the air quality forecast to the tides forecast, and the blue LDL and the sponsorship bug (The Facebook/Twitter and others) are running over the satellite LF for the last few seconds (picture shown on attachment.) Anyone else with coastal STARs experiencing this glitch?  :unsure:
Whenever that happens, it usually is a local issue.. and the coastal products were fine on 24629
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 05, 2012, 08:24:18 AM
Hmm, I always assumed TWC uses the SPC to determine using the wording of "Some storms may be severe" on LFs, but that can't be the case here today where they're using that wording because weren't not under any slight risk today, but we are tomorrow and they use that wording for Sunday also. :thinking:

EDIT: Since this post this morning, the SPC has added N. GA/SC into a slight risk for severe wx today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 06, 2012, 10:55:15 AM
Did they remove the vocals from that Widespread Panic song?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 06, 2012, 11:17:03 AM
Did they remove the vocals from that Widespread Panic song?
Wow, I haven't heard that song since I recorded it two weeks ago! :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 06, 2012, 12:14:10 PM
When I recorded it, no.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 06, 2012, 12:41:50 PM
When I recorded it, no.
Like i said, I havent heard that song in two weeks but heard it plenty of times prior to and it had the vocals
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 07, 2012, 12:02:30 PM
Hard to believe that exactly 3 years ago from today, we were hearing this on the LF:
Camden Intellistar 2/3 5-6-09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tmq289ccTU#)

RIP :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 07, 2012, 01:24:17 PM
That's too bad. Music like that is more suitable for getting weather information. I don't think songs by ADELE will get more people to watch because the average viewer does not watch TWC for that reason.

Only 6 months ago we heard music by Euge Groove!

Has the TWC music management committee changed? I don't even know who's in charge, but I have to wonder. This is a pretty big shift in music genres for national television. People do notice.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on May 07, 2012, 02:13:35 PM
11 years ago this month songs like this was being played.  :cry3:

Classic TWC Satellite Local Forecast from May 2001 #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSnY8aHZByQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 07, 2012, 03:48:33 PM
What amuses me is that TWC released smooth jazz CDs and mentioned that "people look forward to new music selections every month." I don't understand how that suddenly changed in just 4 years, and I know for a fact that it has not! Also, TWC used to LISTEN to viewers (i.e. what happened on 5/7/07). I see more complains about the current selection today than five years ago, yet they do not listen. Look, they even said it in the email Scott Windham on the other topic... "we are looking for new selections that WE want to play. Um, it's not about what you think Scott, it's about us. <_<

There are also music artists such as Chris Geith, Patrick Yandall, and Vincent Ingala who do not appreciate the new selection. I think they should get a little more support since the market is terribly slow now. A few smooth jazz songs like in 2009 will NOT hurt ratings. I even pointed this out to the whole press team, and they seem like they do not even want to think about that. Well, screw you too then. <_<

Well there's one difference between 5 years ago and now and that's management from top to bottom. Sure back then they may have taken those things into consideration, but now it feels like, "Hey were all about nothing but changes with everything on our network so you're either with us or not."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 07, 2012, 04:26:08 PM
I made a topic last month in TWC's feedback thread about it. Feel free to vote on it if you wish.
http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv/suggestions/2731941-what-happened-to-the-smooth-jazz-on-the-local-on-t (http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv/suggestions/2731941-what-happened-to-the-smooth-jazz-on-the-local-on-t)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 07, 2012, 10:41:17 PM
11 years ago this month songs like this was being played.  :cry3:

Classic TWC Satellite Local Forecast from May 2001 #1 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSnY8aHZByQ#[/url])

That song also played in January of 2009, but I did remember Tortilla Flat from May of 2001, too. I was glued to TWC's LF music before 9/11 ( Stopped watching it after 9/11 through late 2004) and remember it as if it played yesterday. Good memories.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 07, 2012, 10:59:07 PM
I didn't mention this earlier, but do they seriously have a rating system for music, like Nielsen Rating type of ratings? If so who does that? Do they sit there going through charts and graphs and say, "Uh oh, the smooth jazz selection is slipping by a quarter percent this month, it's time to put it on hiatis and bring in a midquarter replacement of Linkin Park, Beyonce, and Adele."  :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on May 08, 2012, 11:43:15 PM
I don't understand why this is such a huge deal. You guys act like you're the only ones that watch the channel. I'm bored with the put me to sleep music all the time. The fact is you apparently think you're the only ones that matter and reality is the AVERAGE viewer listens to today's music. So instead of falling asleep while they watch their local forecast, they'd rather listen to the stuff they hear on the radio. Don't bother jumping down my throat. :censored:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 09, 2012, 12:07:04 AM
I don't understand why this is such a huge deal. You guys act like you're the only ones that watch the channel. I'm bored with the put me to sleep music all the time. The fact is you apparently think you're the only ones that matter and reality is the AVERAGE viewer listens to today's music. So instead of falling asleep while they watch their local forecast, they'd rather listen to the stuff they hear on the radio. Don't bother jumping down my throat. :censored:

I halfway agree with you. I don't really care about the music changing the way it has, it hasn't stopped me from looking at the LF whenever I want to, in fact I have liked some of the songs I've heard (vocal/non vocal) but it could have been a compromise of all types of genres of music on the playlist. I don't think they really had to shunt out smooth jazz and new age completely, they could have chosen to keep a handful of them mixed in with the other music they're playing now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 09, 2012, 07:48:14 AM
Does the average viewer actually watch Coast Guard Alaska?

The average viewer probably doesn't care much about the music change, but if that were the case, then the need to remove jazz doesn't make sense unless it's clearly TWC's idea to do it without viewer input. If the music change was because jazz ratings were falling, then that wouldn't make much sense because the average viewer watches for weather, not music.

Also, you'd think that TWC would maybe check out what some of their viewers are saying about anything TWC. Is this the only major forum pertaining to TWC? If so, then I'm surprised that they're not even curious to see what people think about their current decisions. This is a good source of feedback. I don't know what their methods are.

For now, I'm generally pleased with the LF. I'm not sure how much longer these full screen local forecasts will be around, but at least that's been a constant for the past 20 or so years
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 09, 2012, 10:26:57 AM
The average viewer probably doesn't care much about the music change

That's a misconception :lol: Viewers are complaining on TWC's Facebook page about the music change every few posts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 09, 2012, 10:49:15 AM
Neither was I expecting my post on TWCs feedback forum to top 120 votes either O_o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 09, 2012, 11:16:46 AM
I would love to see that forum because I can't find it. I didn't see many music complaints but I did see this post by David Fowler:

"When is the weather channel going to get back to covering weather instead of all these programs that should be on other channels?If you want to do all these things,then start a channel for them to be seen."

His opinion sums up ours pretty well. We are not the only ones who feel this way, and I honestly think that every member here also feels that TWC's new changes are tough to handle. Sadly, if TWC is not willing to listen, there there isn't much we can do. :pinch:

They did return to jazz after 2009, though. They might at least take vocals out if people complain. They honestly don't sound good with narration on local forecasts at all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 09, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
I would love to see that forum because I can't find it.


Here's the Feedback Forums (http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv)

This is where i got the replies about the HD Star and the Vocal Music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 09, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
I would love to see that forum because I can't find it.


Here's the Feedback Forums ([url]http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv[/url])

This is where i got the replies about the HD Star and the Vocal Music.

Specifically here (http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv/suggestions/2731941-what-happened-to-the-smooth-jazz-on-the-local-on-t)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 09, 2012, 12:05:18 PM
Thanks for the link! I voted for it. I think it's a good point.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 10, 2012, 12:59:54 PM
More new songs have aired, but they're all vocal.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 10, 2012, 03:08:37 PM
More new songs have aired, but they're all vocal.

 :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:

I hope TWC's ratings go down the toilet because of this bull :censored:  music change.
Believe me: they won't. They are attempting to appeal to a younger audience and so far it seems to be working
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 10, 2012, 04:06:47 PM
How do you know it's working? If new music actually works, then I guess I can't blame them. I can't believe that would really make much of a difference.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 10, 2012, 04:11:52 PM
Here we go again with everyone being overdramatic. :rolleyes:  Let me ask you guys a question: why do you hate vocal music?  It is because it's just not TWC?  Well, TWC hasn't been "itself" in years, so get over it.  One big thing is that the locals and narration are a bad combo, and I'm aware of that.  I just don't understand why everyone is freaking out.  It's not like they got rid of the LOT8s.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 10, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
The banter on the music changes was hilarious 3 years ago, fast forward to now and it feels like I'm reading into a never ending soap opera with cheesy horse beaten story plots, only entertaining to read into when I get tired of breaking into random people's cars.

Disclaimer: This is a sarcastic post for those who don't pick up on it easily, don't take what I say to heart.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 10, 2012, 05:06:01 PM
About the Widespread Panic song discussion from earlier, Javier uploaded a clip from today of the song, and it still has vocals..

Here we go again with everyone being overdramatic. :rolleyes:  Let me ask you guys a question: why do you hate vocal music?  It is because it's just not TWC?  Well, TWC hasn't been "itself" in years, so get over it.  One big thing is that the locals and narration are a bad combo, and I'm aware of that.  I just don't understand why everyone is freaking out.  It's not like they got rid of the LOT8s.
Wow, I would have to agree with that. :clap:

How do you know it's working?
Believe me, they would have stopped it in February or March if it didnt work.. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 10, 2012, 05:48:13 PM
Apparently, everyone forgot to read my post about this matter in another thread from ten days ago that was meant to serve as a warning.  So, here's the link to that post again:

https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/marchapril-playlist-2012/msg169828/#msg169828 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/marchapril-playlist-2012/msg169828/#msg169828)

Quit complaining and whining as it does nothing but ruin the experience for everyone else on these forums!  You can't do anything about what TWC does with the music as it's a private-sector company that's only interested in drawing ratings and profit, which means they're going to appeal to the vast majority of viewers whether we like it or not.  You can find plenty of resources to listen to the music you enjoy even if you're not into mainstream music.  I'm not wild about the music decisions either, but I'm not constantly bickering and fuming about it.  So, if any of the administrators or moderators here have to intervene again on this matter, we will take action as all of us are getting sick and tired of the repetitive complaining on such old issues that we don't want to discuss them anymore. :club:

All of you have your right to voice your opinions on this matter, which you all have already done multiple times.  Now, get over it, move on, and let's talk about something positive about the LF for a change!  Life is going to continue no matter what TWC decides to do with the music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 10, 2012, 06:22:27 PM
You can find plenty of resources to listen to the music you enjoy even if you're not into mainstream music.
It's sad though that even the selection of that is going down.. the wav is like the only place left and I won't be surprised if that station is losing money too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 10, 2012, 06:27:25 PM
It's sad though that even the selection of that is going down.. the wav is like the only place left and I won't be surprised if that station is losing money too.
Then, I would try to buy CDs and show some support for the artists so that they can survive and continue making music you enjoy.  If you don't have as much money, you can also use YT to make a library of all your favorite songs to download as mp3s and place them in your iPods or any other device you have.  I just want all the complaining to stop here as it's something we've all discussed for years, and it's really not worth our time and effort to keep hounding on it.  We should be thankful that TWC even provided us music to enjoy in the first place. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on May 10, 2012, 09:50:47 PM
This sounds like a decent song TWC would play (mainly the first minute.)

http://www.rocktownhall.com/RockTownHall/03-Flying.mp3 (http://www.rocktownhall.com/RockTownHall/03-Flying.mp3)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 10, 2012, 10:21:11 PM
I don't mind the music change, the only problem is the Vocal Music playing over the IS/IS2 Narration.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 13, 2012, 01:13:09 PM
Here's the FiOS STAR from Tampa, FL

The Weather Channel - Local on the 8s for Tampa, FL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1dCcTy6bJY#)

IMO, the metro map could use some adjustment (move slightly to the east a little) and its regional radar is a bit more zoomed in than 24629's
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 14, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
I haven't heard a song with vocals in it for a while. Maybe it's extreme coincidence but most of yesterday and every LF I caught today had no vocals...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Patricius Maximus on May 14, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
That Intellistar's metro map needs to be shifted quite a ways to the east - there's no point to showing that much water. Some of the Great Lakes Intellistars are an example of what I'm talking about. The regional radar and the radar/satellite also need to be zoomed out more.

Maybe it's extreme coincidence but most of yesterday and every LF I caught today had no vocals...

One can only hope that the vocals will be vanquished.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 14, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
No vocals didn't last very long, Maroon 5 @ 11:18am
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 14, 2012, 11:20:35 AM
Heh, I was about to say. I didn't hear them all morning before that one! Maybe they'll be less frequent or something.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 14, 2012, 11:34:09 AM
Heh, I was about to say. I didn't hear them all morning before that one! Maybe they'll be less frequent or something.

It's most likely the way the music is being rotated, some are just being played more than others. Heck, I didn't realize "Rushing" was still playing, I didn't know it was moved to the overnight hours. No wonder I haven't heard it since like March I think.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on May 14, 2012, 11:45:40 AM
I remember hearing a vocal song at 6:58 CT this morning. It was that one that goes “Ooh la la, I'm in love.” Something like that. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 14, 2012, 12:31:40 PM
I remember hearing a vocal song at 6:58 CT this morning. It was that one that goes “Ooh la la, I'm in love.” Something like that. :P
"I Would Do Anything For You" by Foster the People.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on May 14, 2012, 04:51:46 PM
Heh, I was about to say. I didn't hear them all morning before that one! Maybe they'll be less frequent or something.

It's most likely the way the music is being rotated, some are just being played more than others. Heck, I didn't realize "Rushing" was still playing, I didn't know it was moved to the overnight hours. No wonder I haven't heard it since like March I think.
I was wondering that too. Big Moby fan here :wave:. I think if they are going to play more vocal songs, they should include some of Moby's vocal songs (ex. "Why Does My Heart Feel so Bad")
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 14, 2012, 05:52:19 PM
More Moby (vocal or instrumental) in general would be better than a lot of the vocal/instrumental songs that's being played. :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on May 14, 2012, 05:57:59 PM
More Moby (vocal or instrumental) in general would be better than a lot of the vocal/instrumental songs that's being played. :biggrin:
Along with 7and5.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 14, 2012, 07:58:55 PM
I think Ryan Farish could do as well...  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 14, 2012, 08:11:52 PM
Absolutely, but his older music particularly his "Beautiful" Album. I would love to hear Adoration, Atlantica, Everlasting, Secret Garden, Full Sail and Letting Go return again. :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 14, 2012, 08:41:48 PM
Absolutely, but his older music particularly his "Beautiful" Album. I would love to hear Adoration, Atlantica, Everlasting, Secret Garden, Full Sail and Letting Go return again. :happy:
Oh yes, those are some of my absolute favorites of his! :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 14, 2012, 08:58:36 PM
I would like to hear some stuff from From the Sky too like "from the sky", "home again", "pacific wind", "shine"  and "living water"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on May 15, 2012, 12:09:44 AM
I would like to hear some stuff from From the Sky too like "from the sky", "home again", "pacific wind", "shine"  and "living water"
Also Angel, Night Wind, Highland, and If Only.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on May 15, 2012, 07:33:58 PM
Is anyone besides me seeing the satellite L-bar, whereas the local IntelliSTAR L-bar hasn't been cuing at all today?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 15, 2012, 07:35:54 PM
Is anyone besides me seeing the satellite L-bar, whereas the local IntelliSTAR L-bar hasn't been cuing at all today?  :unsure:
I noticed that earlier with my IS2. Got the national squeezeback and a local LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on May 15, 2012, 09:04:33 PM
Is anyone besides me seeing the satellite L-bar, whereas the local IntelliSTAR L-bar hasn't been cuing at all today?  :unsure:
It's been happening on my IS as well, but the LF and LDL have been cuing normally.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 16, 2012, 02:20:46 PM
My last petition worked, so here's another (http://www.thepetitionsite.com/598/040/307/bring-smooth-jazz-back-to-local-on-the-8s/) shot at it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 16, 2012, 04:14:18 PM
How many signatures did you get back then? 1,000 doesn't seem like a high enough number to catch anyone's attention. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 16, 2012, 04:30:02 PM
How many signatures did you get back then? 1,000 doesn't seem like a high enough number to catch anyone's attention. :no:
I agree with you. I heard somewhere though that 500 complaints is the minimum to change the issue that is causing the complaint
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 16, 2012, 04:39:04 PM
I know for a fact that Patrick has asked you guys to quit complaining about the music here.. but I'm gonna be honest and add my two-cents: don't watch TWC if you hate their current stage! Complaining does nothing to solve the problem at all, and remember that we are only a portion of their viewership.. It's their channel, so they can do whatever they want to it, and if they don't want to use smooth jazz and new age music during the local forecast, then they don't have to... There are other sources of music for you people to listen to, and you should really take advantage of that! TWC is not the only place for you to hear music on, so get over the complaining! It's been almost 5 months now. Do you think TWC is going to change? I doubt so very much!

As for the petition, it may have only worked in 2009 because of the discretion of their programming director. TWC may indeed have a different programming director than they did 3 years ago, but remember this: if they keep the format, it apparently works. End of rant.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 16, 2012, 04:43:36 PM
My last petition worked, so here's another ([url]http://www.thepetitionsite.com/598/040/307/bring-smooth-jazz-back-to-local-on-the-8s/[/url]) shot at it.


I signed the petition  :biggrin:


:facepalm:

Guys, I'm really sorry, but I'm going to need to say a few things too.  First of all, why can't you all be open to change?  Wouldn't it get boring if things were the same way all the time?  Maybe parallel TWC not changing the music to TWC not changing its graphics...ever.  Sometimes, change is a good thing.

Also, I'm afraid if you all keep bugging TWC about this, then they're going to do the exact opposite of what you want them to do and start ignoring you.  I wish you all would give them a break and let them make their decisions.  Sometimes it is best to not know what's going on and let them make their own decisions (yes, I know a lot of them haven't been good ones, but I still have faith in TWC! :P)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Donovan on May 16, 2012, 06:22:49 PM
Guys, you all need to learn that petitioning a company/organzation isn't worth the time. They make the decision they want to make and you have little to no power. They're the "boss", you're his  :censored:. Figure that out and you'll be better off.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on May 16, 2012, 07:53:51 PM
If TWC never brings smooth jazz back, big deal.  :itsok: I obviously would prefer that, and I am as perturbed as everyone else, but, there are other venues to listen to, and we can reminisce on the great years that TWC has had. I have enjoyed watching TWC for the better part of 17 years, and will still look at the forecasts when they do air. Just like I miss when MTV actually showed videos, and Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon and Disney showed better programming, you just have to accept that as time moves on things change.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 16, 2012, 08:17:33 PM
How many signatures did you get back then? 1,000 doesn't seem like a high enough number to catch anyone's attention. :no:

if i remember it was a couple hundred, the 1000 was default it should be saying 500.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on May 16, 2012, 09:24:44 PM
All I want is TWC to respect their elders, their names are Weatherstar 4000, Weatherstar Junior, and WeatherStar XL. They can start by either telling cable companies to put them out of commission or actually air LFs since they don't air those L-Bars.

Seriously? You've got it backwards, my friend. TWC is THEIR elder. They made the 4000, the Junior, or the XL. TWC holds NO, and I will repeat, NO requirements or conditions to what they "need" to do with their units-it's their property, and their channel. They do NOT answer to you, to me, or to any of us. You wanna "teach them a lesson" so-to-speak? Turn them off. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 16, 2012, 10:14:10 PM
While I know complaining doesn't solve anything, I don't see what's wrong with trying a petition. TWC inevitably branches away from jazz time after time, but if this really worked in 2009 (I wasn't aware there was a petition in 2009), then why not try if someone has enough desire to make one?

We're also entitled to opinion, both positive and negative. I honestly don't like the new music (none of us do, I can tell), but we should be able to discuss the music without being labeled as music sentimentalists. Saying stuff like, "I want to kill TWC and NBC because of their music" is out of line and stupid, but discussing it and saying, "The new genres don't seem to fit the Local Forecast because the vocals don't accompany the narration well" is totally logical and acceptable conversation on a message board. I'm not trying to be a moderator or anything, but that's how I feel about this music discussion, and I think some people overreact way too much to this kind of thing.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on May 16, 2012, 10:41:38 PM
Christina, this whole issue is so old that it's not even funny.  Everyone has already made their opinions on this matter loud and clear multiple times.  Now, let's move on!  The local forecast isn't all about the music, yet I see the same things repeated over and over even after several members have asked for it to stop, including myself. <_<  Some of you still don't get it that TWC is going to do whatever benefits them as they're a private sector company.  Their job is not to provide good music, good graphics, or good weather coverage.  It's to make good ratings and a good profit just like any other private corporation, period!

I've already sent a PM to Martin about this thread, and he and I will decide what actions to take on this matter from here.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 17, 2012, 11:19:09 AM
As Patrick said this issue has been repeated many many times. There is nothing wrong with enjoying the content from the past years of TWC. Some of you are just going to have to accept that TWC is moving in a new direction, as is EVERY other television channel in existence. The network isn't doing this just to spite you and loyal viewers. It's trying to find a balance that more people will enjoy. Christina you are right that everyone is entitled to their opinion but when the topic has been repeated over and over again its time to stop. Most of the people discussing this have made their opinions clear in various other topics and posts. What has changed to warrant the discussion? The topic of discussion has been going on for years. Clearly nothing has or will change. Albert Einstein once said the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Some of you may want to keep that in mind.

If you wish to start a petition well more power to you. I will be frank in saying they don't work but believe what you like. If you want to have any impact at all I suggest you make your comments over here http://feedback.weather.com/ (http://feedback.weather.com/) 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on May 17, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
On the last LF, I heard the narration say "Cooler near the lakeshore." Has anyone heard the is narration before?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on May 17, 2012, 08:23:05 PM
On the last LF, I heard the narration say "Cooler near the lakeshore." Has anyone heard the is narration before?

I have not. However, I feel it is definitely a nice (and accurate) touch.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 17, 2012, 09:41:38 PM
Anyone ever seen this happen before? (Skip to 0:15 in)

Graphics FAIL During Local Forecast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKgxtAcBi2s#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 18, 2012, 12:07:40 PM
If TWC sees it that way, then they will change it. As for me, it's something I can get used to if I just accept it. After all, it's still the local forecast. I actually like to mute it and play jazz on my iPod from time to time.

Very weird glitch, Tavores! No, I have never seen that before. I mainly watch my IS2, however, and it does not seem to glitch nearly as often as the IS would.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 19, 2012, 12:39:25 PM
Going off the topic of music... :hammer:

I have noticed recently where TWC's LOT8s bumpers say no more than "And now your LOT8s" and last for about a couple of seconds.  They aren't advertising anything beforehand.  It's possible, though, that some of these are also mixed in with ones that do advertise longform, etc.  I don't know when this started, or if it has been discussed before, but I feel like it's been awhile since we've seen a LOT8s intro without any form of advertisement before it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 19, 2012, 12:50:02 PM
Going off the topic of music... :hammer:

I have noticed recently where TWC's LOT8s bumpers say no more than "And now your LOT8s" and last for about a couple of seconds.  They aren't advertising anything beforehand.  It's possible, though, that some of these are also mixed in with ones that do advertise longform, etc.  I don't know when this started, or if it has been discussed before, but I feel like it's been awhile since we've seen a LOT8s intro without any form of advertisement before it.
They've been doing that for a month or two. It's either a LOT8s intro advertising something, or an advertisement preceding the short intro.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 19, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Going off the topic of music... :hammer:

I have noticed recently where TWC's LOT8s bumpers say no more than "And now your LOT8s" and last for about a couple of seconds.  They aren't advertising anything beforehand.  It's possible, though, that some of these are also mixed in with ones that do advertise longform, etc.  I don't know when this started, or if it has been discussed before, but I feel like it's been awhile since we've seen a LOT8s intro without any form of advertisement before it.
They've been doing that for a month or two. It's either a LOT8s intro advertising something, or an advertisement preceding the short intro.
They're also only done like that at the :28/:58 LFs during live programming.. not sure if its the same for longform though
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 19, 2012, 03:46:28 PM
The footage before that shorter segment comes from one of the Ice Pilots promos. Hey, I don't mind the lack of advertisement. It seemed desperate to me, to be quite honest. I like the one they use now.

What I miss are those HD intros. Those were beautiful. I would die for a collage of ALL of them. I still can't find the sunset one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 19, 2012, 03:56:36 PM
What I miss are those HD intros. Those were beautiful. I would die for a collage of ALL of them. I still can't find the sunset one.
That heatwave one they used in the summer 2008? I have that one, I'll look for it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 19, 2012, 04:26:55 PM
To Mike: Thank you! If you direct me to a video with it or anything, I would like to see it again!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on May 20, 2012, 01:35:09 AM

What I miss are those HD intros. Those were beautiful. I would die for a collage of ALL of them. I still can't find the sunset one.
Those really were good. I miss them
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 20, 2012, 10:47:02 AM
I miss the BWTL era, all their creativity and uniqueness went right out the door after TWC went HD. Anyone know anybody that's close to building a time machine? :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 20, 2012, 11:04:40 AM
If you had to pick a TWC meteorologist to do the IntelliStar Narration instead of Allen Jackson who would you pick?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on May 20, 2012, 12:59:27 PM
If you had to pick a TWC meteorologist to do the IntelliStar Narration instead of Allen Jackson who would you pick?

I would probably have used Marshall Seese, were he still there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on May 21, 2012, 02:22:53 PM
TWC IntelliSTAR- Spokane, WA- June 3, 2005- 5:29PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxIvbXLAp8#)

I had a request to upload a clip of this 60-second STAR flavor from 2005. Can anyone ID this song?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 21, 2012, 04:59:21 PM
That's "Tequilla Sunrise" by Yvonne Ayers.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on May 22, 2012, 11:17:14 AM
At :08 a 60-second flavor aired  :o

First the music, now the reduction of LF flavors? I sense major controversy coming...  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 22, 2012, 12:10:39 PM
At :08 a 60-second flavor aired  :o

First the music, now the reduction of LF flavors? I sense major controversy coming...  :hmm:

Yeah, I noticed that too.  At 10:28 CT, a 1:30 flavor (I believe...on the HD Satellite LF it did not show the city-by-city forecast) aired.  I don't know if this is permanent or some test, because I always remember 2 minute flavors showing at :28.

Also, vocal music played then too, although I can't ID the song. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 22, 2012, 12:27:07 PM
At :08 a 60-second flavor aired  :o

I bet all shows will have the Squeezeback showing :08 and :38 at this rate.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on May 22, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
No more 2-minute Flavors at :28 and :58 each hour during Weather Center Live.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on May 22, 2012, 05:25:21 PM
No more 2-minute Flavors at :28 and :58 each hour during Weather Center Live.

Day Planner didn't have those flavors either  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 22, 2012, 05:53:02 PM
Wow, this must officially be the end of the 2 minute flavors then. 2 minutes has always been the longest amount of time possible for the LFs since J flavours were discontinued in the late 90's.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 22, 2012, 09:31:38 PM
Wow, this must officially be the end of the 2 minute flavors then. 2 minutes has always been the longest amount of time possible for the LFs since J flavours were discontinued in the late 90's.

IMO, this shouldn't be the case.  Now the National Feed no longer shows the city-by-city 5 day forecast (3-day on SD), which leads to a greater lack of information.  Bad move. :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 22, 2012, 09:49:20 PM
Wow, this must officially be the end of the 2 minute flavors then. 2 minutes has always been the longest amount of time possible for the LFs since J flavours were discontinued in the late 90's.

IMO, this shouldn't be the case.  Now the National Feed no longer shows the city-by-city 5 day forecast (3-day on SD), which leads to a greater lack of information.  Bad move. :thumbdown:
Not too sure on the SD feed, but the 5-day forecast is shown on 1:00 LFs on the HD feed :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on May 22, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
Wow, this must officially be the end of the 2 minute flavors then. 2 minutes has always been the longest amount of time possible for the LFs since J flavours were discontinued in the late 90's.

IMO, this shouldn't be the case.  Now the National Feed no longer shows the city-by-city 5 day forecast (3-day on SD), which leads to a greater lack of information.  Bad move. :thumbdown:
Not too sure on the SD feed, but the 5-day forecast is shown on 1:00 LFs on the HD feed :yes:
There's no city-by-city forecast on 1:00 flavors on the SD feed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 22, 2012, 09:54:42 PM
Wow, this must officially be the end of the 2 minute flavors then. 2 minutes has always been the longest amount of time possible for the LFs since J flavours were discontinued in the late 90's.

IMO, this shouldn't be the case.  Now the National Feed no longer shows the city-by-city 5 day forecast (3-day on SD), which leads to a greater lack of information.  Bad move. :thumbdown:
Not too sure on the SD feed, but the 5-day forecast is shown on 1:00 LFs on the HD feed :yes:

Well, that's strange. :blink:  Because they're not shown on the 1:30 flavors on HD.  They show the region-by-region radar and single day forecast, then the national thunderstorm map and precip map or severe weather warnings if any are in effect.  No city-by-city 5-day is shown.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 22, 2012, 10:23:26 PM
Here's the HD flavor lineups:

2:00
region by region (6 regions, 1 slide for radar, 1 slide for forecast) > precip forecast (subject for preemption if watches/warnings active) > thunderstorm forecast (subject for preemption if watches/warnings active) > 5-day forecast (4 slides, 6 cities per slide)

1:30
region by region (6 regions, 1 slide for radar, 1 slide for forecast) > precip forecast (subject for preemption if watches/warnings active) > thunderstorm forecast (subject for preemption if watches/warnings active)

1:00
national radar > national forecast > precip forecast (subject for preemption if watches/warnings active) > thunderstorm forecast (subject for preemption if watches/warnings active) > 5-day forecast (4 slides, 6 cities per slide)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 22, 2012, 11:16:56 PM
Thanks Zach, that clears things up! :thumbsup:  All I am saying is that I think the 5-day forecast is important, so I am not a fan of the 1:30 flavor.  (But I know it's going to sound pretty strange if I say I prefer a 1-minute flavor over a 1:30 one. :fear:)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on May 23, 2012, 12:48:18 AM
I still remember the 2008–(I think) 2011 SD satellite LF product playlists:

DE (60s): Precipitation Forecast/Thunderstorm Forecast/Severe Warnings, 6-region Regional Forecast, 4-region Radar/Satellite
K (90s): Precipitation Forecast/Thunderstorm Forecast/Severe Warnings, Daypart Forecast, 6-region Regional Forecast, 4-region Radar/Satellite
L (120s): Precipitation Forecast/Thunderstorm Forecast/Severe Warnings, Daypart Forecast, 6-region Regional Forecast, 4-region Radar/Satellite
M (120s): Precipitation Forecast/Thunderstorm Forecast/Severe Warnings, Daypart Forecast, 3-day Forecast, 4-region Radar/Satellite
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 23, 2012, 08:12:56 AM
Just one more reason why I'm glad don't watch TWC anymore. :-D

BTW, if the 2 minute flavors are discontinued, then the IntelliStar playlists should be modified so all of the products can still be shown. AQ, dayparts, and radar/satellites don't show regularly on the 1:00 or 1:30 playlists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 23, 2012, 09:07:08 AM
I wonder why they feel the need to shorten the LF's. More ad time, I suppose?

Not many good changes lately, but as Patrick reaffirmed earlier, TWC's just going to do what gives them money in their pocket. If they were losing money before, then what is there to lose by changing things?

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if TWC became a channel one would find on channel 180 instead of 14. With today's technology, one can find all the weather info they need online or on their phone. The need for TWC just isn't what it once was, and they need to work around that to still profit.

 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 23, 2012, 02:51:13 PM
Just got this email today.

Quote
Programming has temporarily gone to shorter locals during certain time periods of the day. This is not permanent but will be for an extended time for now.

Tony F
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 23, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
Just got this email today.

Quote
Programming has temporarily gone to shorter locals during certain time periods of the day. This is not permanent but will be for an extended time for now.

Tony F

Keywords right there, I don't get where this whole thing about 2 min. flavor lineups being permanently removed came from when it's only been mentioned this change has happened during WCL and DP. This is really no different from what they did almost 3 years ago back in July 2009 when they reduced LFs then also during certain times of the day. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 24, 2012, 12:35:47 AM
YWT has this lineup too I think... I saw a 1 minute LF at 8:08am.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 24, 2012, 03:18:13 PM
As does Day Planner. The new timing of the Local Forecasts appears to be for all shows. Most of the Local Forecasts start on the 9's for me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 24, 2012, 03:40:36 PM
At 11:38 AM ET, I saw an interesting flavor lineup on 24629.. :thinking:

CC > Regional Radar > Marine Forecast > Today's Forecast (metro map) > 36 Hour Forecast > The Week Ahead

The CC narration was omitted and all 3 text LF slides omitted the wind narration.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 24, 2012, 06:13:14 PM
At 11:38 AM ET, I saw an interesting flavor lineup on 24629.. :thinking:

CC > Regional Radar > Marine Forecast > Today's Forecast (metro map) > 36 Hour Forecast > The Week Ahead

The CC narration was omitted and all 3 text LF slides omitted the wind narration.
IIRC, one minute flavors have had the marine forecast since the 2010 flavor changes. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 24, 2012, 08:28:43 PM
Is End of the Line by Daft Punk ok to upload on YT? Scratch that, is any Daft Punk song that played back in May 2011 ok to upload? (And I don't mean through any kind of tricks or workarounds with the audio, that doesn't work for me anyway I've tried.) There was a severe weather outbreak here in the latter part of that month and one of the LFs features music by them. I don't care if it's tagged, but if the video is going to be blocked in certain countries I'll just skip over it.

And while I'm thinkin' about it, how about "Guyute" by Phish also. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 24, 2012, 08:43:40 PM
End of Line im not too sure, maybe a tag?

And Guyute will have a tag :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 24, 2012, 08:59:35 PM
Oh ok, I guess I might change the music in the video that has Daft Punk in it. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 24, 2012, 09:01:28 PM
Oh ok, I guess I might change the music in the video that has Daft Punk in it. Thanks for the help.
You can try, because I have a DP song up with only ads
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 24, 2012, 09:25:42 PM
Guyute is fine. End of Line is a hit or miss. My Williamsburg, VA IS clip of it was tagged but not blocked but my HD LF clip of it was blocked
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 24, 2012, 09:49:50 PM
Guyute is fine. End of Line is a hit or miss. My Williamsburg, VA IS clip of it was tagged but not blocked but my HD LF clip of it was blocked

Well I guess I'll be lucky and only get a tag at worst since the clip I'm talking about is from the IntelliStar which is perfectly fine. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TheTWCman on May 26, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
Has anyone ever captured a Red, purple (or even maroon, should it exist on any LF system)?
I'd love to see one, as I can't seem to find anything worse than orange.
Also: Does maroon exist on any LF system and would it have its own LDL crawl?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on May 26, 2012, 04:26:07 PM
Red or purple what? Please be more specific.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TheTWCman on May 26, 2012, 04:35:33 PM
Sorry, somehow forgot the most important part: Air Quality Forecast. How could I miss that out?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on May 26, 2012, 06:03:11 PM
Ah, LOL. I was a bit confused.

The colors on the Air Quality screen have always been as follows (from bottom to top). The words in parentheses are the words that show on the color itself.

Green (Good)
Yellow (Moderate)
Orange (Unhealthy for Sensitive Groups)
Red (Unhealthy), I've seen this once or twice on my STAR in person but never online, fairly rare
Maroon (Very Unhealthy), Never seen this one in person or online...VERY rare


In my opinion, Maroon shouldn't exist...I don't even think it's ever shown on a STAR. If Maroon were to show, I would think there would be a Weather Bulletin for an Air Quality Alert.

Hope that I answered some of your questions. Again, anyone feel free to chime in or correct me on the above. :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 26, 2012, 06:26:09 PM
I haven't had the STAR in awhile, so I may be incorrect, but it is to my knowledge that purple comes before maroon in air quality alerts.  Purple means "very unhealthy" and maroon means "hazardous."  Purple is not normally shown on the STAR unless it is needed, of course.  I think the worst level I have seen on a STAR is red.

Also, I believe a Weather Bulletin for an air pollution watch is shown for levels orange and above, not just for maroon. ;)  I am not sure if there is such as thing as a bulletin for an "air quality alert" though.  (I assume there is a difference.  To me, the alert is like a warning.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 26, 2012, 06:27:33 PM
No, the order that Trevor said is correct :thumbsup: there is no purple on the AQ

(http://billy.mozfaq.org/twc/screenshots/intellistar_version_2/air_quality.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 26, 2012, 06:32:11 PM
No, the order that Trevor said is correct :thumbsup: there is no purple on the AQ

([url]http://billy.mozfaq.org/twc/screenshots/intellistar_version_2/air_quality.jpg[/url])


Well, I mean, honestly, that looks kind of like purple to me.  According to all air quality color guides I have looked at, purple comes before maroon. ;)  Maroon is very rare and is often left off of most of the guides.  If the top color on the screenshot you posted is maroon, Zach, then TWC has it wrong. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 26, 2012, 06:34:46 PM
Andy, you sure you arent colorblind? :P

But if you notice, nothing on graphics by TWC is of pure color..  :no:

EDIT: I did find this (http://www.ncair.org/airaware/AirAwareColorCodeSheetPDF7-27-09.pdf), which has the exact colors TWC uses
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 26, 2012, 06:37:54 PM
Andy, you sure you arent colorblind? :P

But if you notice, nothing on graphics by TWC is of pure color..  :no:

EDIT: I did find this ([url]http://www.ncair.org/airaware/AirAwareColorCodeSheetPDF7-27-09.pdf[/url]), which has the exact colors TWC uses


ALL I am trying to say is that purple should come before maroon on the AQI. :P  Just take a look at this link: http://www.epa.gov/apti/ozonehealth/aqi.html (http://www.epa.gov/apti/ozonehealth/aqi.html).

Whether the I-STAR has it right or not is another story I guess.  One color (it should be maroon) is left of off the screenshot you posted, Zach.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on May 26, 2012, 06:49:36 PM
I haven't had the STAR in awhile, so I may be incorrect, but it is to my knowledge that purple comes before maroon in air quality alerts.  Purple means "very unhealthy" and maroon means "hazardous."  Purple is not normally shown on the STAR unless it is needed, of course.  I think the worst level I have seen on a STAR is red.

Also, I believe a Weather Bulletin for an air pollution watch is shown for levels orange and above, not just for maroon. ;)  I am not sure if there is such as thing as a bulletin for an "air quality alert" though.  (I assume there is a difference.  To me, the alert is like a warning.)
I remember recently the AQ on my IS was orange, but there was nothing for it on the Weather Bulletin.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 27, 2012, 07:28:15 AM
Speaking of Air Quality, would an AQ alert show up on the 4000 as a weather bulletin? I'm guessing no since it doesn't show up on the IS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on May 27, 2012, 01:15:10 PM
There's a quick LOT8's intro for Memorial Day.
It was running with no audio but is now updated.
TWCHD 20120527 1059 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDpUntgdSMU#ws)

One other change on the national HD feed, insted of the LDL wiping down off the screen when going to a commercial break it now fades off and then the show promo graphic appears.
TWCHD_20120527 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJlzJ6N70Jg#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on May 27, 2012, 01:39:05 PM
Looks like the 90-second flavors started playing at :28 and :58 each hour as well during the Weekend Morning Hours.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 27, 2012, 03:29:19 PM
Looks like the 90-second flavors started playing at :28 and :58 each hour as well during the Weekend Morning Hours.

So if these 90-second flavors are part of all weekend shows, DP, and WCL at :28/:58 now, when are they not used?  I thought someone said not all shows were like this.  I would have to guess YWT and WUWA by process of elimination. :P  (But that might not be right.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 27, 2012, 04:17:08 PM
Looks like the 90-second flavors started playing at :28 and :58 each hour as well during the Weekend Morning Hours.

So if these 90-second flavors are part of all weekend shows, DP, and WCL at :28/:58 now, when are they not used?  I thought someone said not all shows were like this.  I would have to guess YWT and WUWA by process of elimination. :P  (But that might not be right.)
They may have just expanded over to the morning shows this morning. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 27, 2012, 06:21:32 PM
My Prediction for every live show by the end of 2012

2 Minute > 1:30 Minute > 1 Minute > L-Bar

Bold = Currently
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 27, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
My Prediction for every live show by the end of 2012

2 Minute > 1:30 Minute > 1 Minute > L-Bar

Bold = Currently
I would give it some time. Maybe we'll see the restoration of 2:00 LFs at :28/:58 again, but for now we'll just have to deal with it. :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 27, 2012, 08:12:07 PM
Sorry, somehow forgot the most important part: Air Quality Forecast. How could I miss that out?
We've seen Unhealthy air quality here a few times during the summer. Very unhealthy is pretty rare anywhere around the states, except in southern California.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 28, 2012, 11:33:03 AM
Looks like the 90-second flavors started playing at :28 and :58 each hour as well during the Weekend Morning Hours.

So if these 90-second flavors are part of all weekend shows, DP, and WCL at :28/:58 now, when are they not used?  I thought someone said not all shows were like this.  I would have to guess YWT and WUWA by process of elimination. :P  (But that might not be right.)
They may have just expanded over to the morning shows this morning. :yes:

I saw a 2 min flavor at 28/58 past on YWT this morning so they're still showing there. :yes:

On the topic of air quality, I thought I remember seeing a LF on YT where the AQ forecast showed a red level. I could be wrong though. This was a few years ago if I'm remembering right.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on May 29, 2012, 02:37:20 PM
Since because of the 90-second flavors started airing May 22, 2012 at :28 and :58 each hour during Day Planner, and Weather Center Live, the 3-Day Extended Forecast is shown on WeatherStar XL, and because of the 60 second forecast aired at :08/:38 each hour, the 7-Day Forecast is once again shown on the XL during Day Planner and Weather Center Live.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 31, 2012, 06:12:47 PM
QUESTION: Anyone know what timeframe the 4000 transitioned from UPPERCASE to Sentence Case?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 31, 2012, 07:28:10 PM
Looks like the 90-second flavors started playing at :28 and :58 each hour as well during the Weekend Morning Hours.

So if these 90-second flavors are part of all weekend shows, DP, and WCL at :28/:58 now, when are they not used?  I thought someone said not all shows were like this.  I would have to guess YWT and WUWA by process of elimination. :P  (But that might not be right.)
They may have just expanded over to the morning shows this morning. :yes:
I saw a 2 min flavor at 28/58 past on YWT this morning so they're still showing there. :yes:
Hmm, I am beginning to ponder if you saw this or not.. I'm not doubting you, but I saw a 1:30 LF at 5:58 before WUWA this morning :thinking: You sure you didnt mistake it for a 1:30 LF? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 31, 2012, 07:35:59 PM
It was 2 minutes indeed because they showed the 8 city observations on my IS, they don't show those outside of 2 minute flavors here. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 31, 2012, 10:49:43 PM
Attached: Metro Map yesterday afternoon on the top, Metro Map today on the bottom.

Barnstable County, MA

Falmouth, Hyannis

Plymouth County, MA

Plymouth, Wareham

Bristol County, MA

Fall River, New Bedford, Taunton

Providence County, RI

Providence

Newport County, RI

Newport
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 01, 2012, 09:30:52 AM
9:28a ET was definitely a 2 minute flavor.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ap215 on June 02, 2012, 10:04:09 AM
Check this out

http://paper.li/f-1338405992 (http://paper.li/f-1338405992)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 06, 2012, 06:11:42 AM
Ooh.. HiRAD is out on my DirecTV LF now. :happy: not sure if it's on my end or TWC's though :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on June 06, 2012, 06:49:38 AM
Ooh.. HiRAD is out on my DirecTV LF now. :happy: not sure if it's on my end or TWC's though :thinking:

It's working for me on the Intellistar and Intellistar 2.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 06, 2012, 03:20:15 PM
HD Test with my Samsung Galaxy S 1280x720

Overnight HD local forecast 6/5/12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGetr1hG_Gk#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 11, 2012, 10:11:10 AM
Looks like 2 minute flavors have returned at :28/:58, at least on YWT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 11, 2012, 10:32:47 AM
Looks like 2 minute flavors have returned at :28/:58, at least on YWT.
I just noticed that!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 11, 2012, 10:39:45 AM
It's always been like that. Only on ywt wuwa and the :28 lf after weather classroom on weekends will you get 2 min flavors
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 11, 2012, 12:06:06 PM
It's always been like that. Only on ywt wuwa and the :28 lf after weather classroom on weekends will you get 2 min flavors
No, YWT didn't. Only WUWA and Weather Classroom did.

No changes on DP, however the 1 minute forecasts now have the almanac instead of two metro forecast pages.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 11, 2012, 02:27:01 PM
Yes it did play on YWT :) my clip of take on me was recorded during YWT (can't post links on phone(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 12, 2012, 10:36:30 PM
Great to see another known 4000 is still around  :)

WeatherStar 4000 State College 061112 958am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq2DvI2szMw#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 12, 2012, 10:57:45 PM
Great to see another known 4000 is still around  :)

WeatherStar 4000 State College 061112 958am ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq2DvI2szMw#[/url])

This is the same 4000 Steve posted back in 2008. It's used by D&E Communcations
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 12, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
Great to see another known 4000 is still around  :)

WeatherStar 4000 State College 061112 958am ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq2DvI2szMw#[/url])

This is the same 4000 Steve posted back in 2008. It's used by D&E Communcations
I know, which is why I did say "known" 4000 ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 13, 2012, 10:28:48 AM
Did anyone come across this article about 7and5's music on TWC? http://www.newagemusicworld.com/the-weather-channel-music-by-7and5/ (http://www.newagemusicworld.com/the-weather-channel-music-by-7and5/)

Kinda interesting to hear the history behind their music on there. I'm also surprised they mentioned by Top 10 TWC songs for 2011 video, too. :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 13, 2012, 10:30:52 AM
I'm also surprised they mentioned by Top 10 TWC songs for 2011 video, too. :o

Someone on youtube is famous now  :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 13, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
I'm also surprised they mentioned by Top 10 TWC songs for 2011 video, too. :o


Someone on youtube is famous now  :D
As are some others... :bleh: :blushing:

http://matthewcshuman.com/ (http://matthewcshuman.com/)

It's quite common for articles on websites about TWC artists and or TWC artists themselves on their websites to use our videos as a showcase of showing their music on TWC :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on June 14, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
It seems like my SD IS is down  :huh:
I'm getting a feed from the Westhampton Beach IS and that one seems to be failing too  :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 14, 2012, 11:24:03 AM
It seems like my SD IS is down  :huh:
I'm getting a feed from the Westhampton Beach IS and that one seems to be failing too  :wacko:
Can u get a video of that star?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on June 14, 2012, 11:52:25 AM
What the LF? 6-14-12 11:28AM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqExdtRnbFA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 14, 2012, 12:15:06 PM
I wish my STAR would fail like that, LOL. I've never seen mine do that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 14, 2012, 12:20:02 PM
What the LF? 6-14-12 11:28AM ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqExdtRnbFA#[/url])
That is the Islip IntelliStar (aka the one you should see). :yes:

In this case, your IS feed wasn't switched.. but whenever there is a N/A CC screen on the IS (for all IntelliStars as a matter of fact), it's defaulted to the headend's location (hence the mixed-case site). :thumbsup:

Also, IMO, I would check and make sure the IDs are different or not before assuming that you're seeing a different IS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 14, 2012, 09:08:12 PM
I say keep it like this, LOL. I find that the production music fits the LF quite well :)

|||"TWC - No Talking During Local On The 8s"||| ((("Setreo Sound"))) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR-iy84pbuA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 14, 2012, 09:13:13 PM
I say keep it like this, LOL. I find that the production music fits the LF quite well :)

|||"TWC - No Talking During Local On The 8s"||| ((("Setreo Sound"))) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR-iy84pbuA#[/url])
Or better yet... ;)

Local Forecast Error - March 16, 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnJWZI85x2g#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 16, 2012, 12:31:59 AM
Obviously this wasn't real but I couldn't stop laughing :rofl:
TWC has lost it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5TT1aDhokQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on June 16, 2012, 02:44:39 AM
Obviously this wasn't real but I couldn't stop laughing :rofl:
TWC has lost it ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5TT1aDhokQ#[/url])

 :rofl2:
Sorta sounds like a rock combination of Missy Elliott and Nicki Minaj.  Actually, this could sound good on an instrumental.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 16, 2012, 09:53:22 AM
You had me fooled at first, but it actually wouldn't be so bad if it really was instrumental. It has a great beat to it. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 16, 2012, 10:32:29 AM
Yes it does, I couldn't find an instrumental though. I hope you guys got a good laugh though :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 22, 2012, 08:48:59 AM
New Station ID

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 22, 2012, 10:02:59 AM
Is the music to it different?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 22, 2012, 10:30:11 AM
Yeah, it sounded different.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 22, 2012, 10:53:49 AM
I'm sorry, but the horse was a bit much.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 22, 2012, 11:12:55 AM
I like it, actually.. its gonna take time to get used to for sure though... also Ive attached a full-scale 1920x1080 HD version if anyone wants to see it :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on June 22, 2012, 12:39:20 PM
I like the horse - it reminds me of the early "Weather you can always turn to" IDs.   :clap:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 23, 2012, 06:31:55 PM
 :o I've only looked at the computer models concerning TS Debby. I didn't know another heatwave was coming. Amazingly, we still wouldn't tie or break the record for Thursday/Friday.

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/History.aspx?location=USGA0028 (http://www.intellicast.com/Local/History.aspx?location=USGA0028)

EDIT: Also, has anyone ever seen a Weather Bulletin worded this way before? :dunno:
IntelliStar - July 12, 2011 1:28pm Side Steppin - Stanley Turrentine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X0enVhBLhU#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 23, 2012, 09:18:28 PM
EDIT: Also, has anyone ever seen a Weather Bulletin worded this way before? :dunno:

I haven't, the Bulletins that are usually issued here are just generalized like "Heat Advisory in effect Until 7pm EDT this evening" (Thursday)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 23, 2012, 09:30:28 PM
What's weird is that was the only time I saw it. I never saw it written that way again since. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on June 25, 2012, 07:38:18 AM
Anyone hear about the potential for a brought-back Storm Alert mode, featuring the music and the whole nine yards? That would be splendid.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 25, 2012, 11:32:57 AM
Where did you hear about that? I honestly don't think that's going to happen, especially with the recent transition to vocal music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 25, 2012, 11:43:09 AM
During recent severe storms I've wondered if playing pop, rock, and movie sound track songs was appropriate and if they should switch to an instrumental playlist?

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 25, 2012, 11:46:35 AM
There was another new Station ID I saw on TWCHD this morning of a beach and a small boat sitting idle out in the water with cumulonimbus clouds overhead a blue sky.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 25, 2012, 11:54:50 AM
I checked 5am-7am and 9am and it was the horse video.
If I get it on a recording I'll post it.

Anyone know who is voicing this new LOT8s promo? Does not sound like one of the regular voices.
TWCHD 20120625 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfGl5bcB0Qo#ws)

Is the woman voicing the station IDs new to?


Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 25, 2012, 11:57:26 AM
There was another new Station ID I saw on TWCHD this morning of a beach and a small boat sitting idle out in the water with cumulonimbus clouds overhead a blue sky.

I saw that yesterday.

Speaking of the station ID segment, is anyone else besides me seeing that the cable company logo/channel number as well as the radio station ID cards aren't showing at all during the recent ID segments with the new backgrounds?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on June 25, 2012, 12:56:33 PM
There was another new Station ID I saw on TWCHD this morning of a beach and a small boat sitting idle out in the water with cumulonimbus clouds overhead a blue sky.

I saw that yesterday.

Speaking of the station ID segment, is anyone else besides me seeing that the cable company logo/channel number as well as the radio station ID cards aren't showing at all during the recent ID segments with the new backgrounds?  :unsure:

Not getting station ID's here in Topeka, so you're not the only one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 25, 2012, 01:04:38 PM
Are you guys just getting the "." in the corner, or is the ID screen totally blank?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 25, 2012, 01:17:55 PM
Are you guys just getting the "." in the corner, or is the ID screen totally blank?

Are you guys referring the HD or SD channel local ID?

FiOS only has the IS installed for the SD channel.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 25, 2012, 01:24:16 PM
Are you guys just getting the "." in the corner, or is the ID screen totally blank?

Are you guys referring the HD or SD channel local ID?

FiOS only has the IS installed for the SD channel.
Any feed that has a STAR
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 25, 2012, 02:04:43 PM
FiOS had no logos or text on TWC SD during the ID segment.
(http://t.imgbox.com/aalV2kfn.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/aalV2kfn)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 25, 2012, 02:14:29 PM
I'm seeing no text on the ID screen on 24745 for XFINITY as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 25, 2012, 05:39:18 PM
FiOS had no logos or text on TWC SD during the ID segment.
([url]http://t.imgbox.com/aalV2kfn.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imgbox.com/aalV2kfn[/url])


22622 is not showing any text either
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 25, 2012, 05:48:37 PM
Guess I should capture an ID screen while I can for emulation purposes :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 25, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
Are you guys just getting the "." in the corner, or is the ID screen totally blank?

Are you guys referring the HD or SD channel local ID?

FiOS only has the IS installed for the SD channel.
Any feed that has a STAR
I'm seeing no text on the ID screen on 24745 for XFINITY as well.
The XL isn't showing the cable operator or STAR ID either
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 25, 2012, 06:14:28 PM
Is the Cable Providers logo display optional?
I'm not sure Verizon FiOS has ever put their logo on screen during the ID segment.

Tonight I'll be able to check FiOS and Cablevision TWC SD channels at the same time and let you know if either has the local cable system or radio station IDs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 25, 2012, 06:29:55 PM
It's not just FIOS. Everyone above is saying it's happening on XFINITY as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 26, 2012, 12:59:58 AM
Friend mentioned no local ID on COX TWC SD in KS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 26, 2012, 05:21:17 AM
I'm pretty sure it's a national issue now, I'm not getting an ID number or Xfinity logo either. :no:

EDIT: This is how the other Station ID looks for those who haven't seen it btw. Turns out I kinda over exaggerated about the clouds, but in my defense I had another sleepless night and I first saw it around 4:57 in the morning. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ap215 on June 26, 2012, 10:38:43 PM
It looks fabulous
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 27, 2012, 12:41:15 AM
Is the Cable Providers logo display optional?
I'm not sure Verizon FiOS has ever put their logo on screen during the ID segment.

In the past few months, they updated my screen ID and instead of a logo, in text it says VERIZON SERVICES CORP. and it now has my ID. As of tonight the station ID is blank though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on June 27, 2012, 08:01:59 AM
Just to bring up this crazy thing I just saw on the LDL. HiRAD is reporting Medford, NY with a thunderstorm right now, when there is clearly nothing on the radar.  :dunno:  :wacko:

EDIT: It appears the LDL is stuck on 2 days ago! The forecast on the LDL called for 73°F with a 100% chance of Thunderstorms, which was the forecast for 6/25/12! The LDL is still on during the commercial breaks. The forecast on the LDL also includes a forecast for Tuesday, which already happened!!! Deja Vu
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 27, 2012, 09:59:00 AM
Is the LDL frozen? I would definitely report that to the STAR Team.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on June 27, 2012, 11:26:51 AM
Is the LDL frozen? I would definitely report that to the STAR Team.
No, but it is stuck on two days ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 27, 2012, 05:35:42 PM
Code Red ozone was just issued for Memphis. I'm going to get a recording of it!

EDIT: The IS is just showing a Code Orange, but you can clearly see here (http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=MSZ001&warncounty=MSC033&firewxzone=MSZ001&local_place1=3+Miles+NE+Nesbit+MS&product1=Air+Quality+Alert) that it's in effect for today and tomorrow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 27, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
Double post, sorry. Code PURPLE in effect for the Memphis area. Oh, how I wish the IS didn't update at 4:00. Otherwise, I'd be recording a rare video.

http://airnow.gov/index.cfm?action=airnow.local_city&cityid=179 (http://airnow.gov/index.cfm?action=airnow.local_city&cityid=179)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 27, 2012, 08:28:44 PM
Since WinTV doesn't work on my acer i tried using the tuner as a webcam on Skype and here's how it came out (Recorded with Camstudio)

Cape Cod Garden Thunderstorms with Atlantic Ocean Swirl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qacqS2p77GA#)

Pyros lHDl Opener (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZSkqs8sFcQ#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on June 28, 2012, 12:16:56 AM
Just to bring up this crazy thing I just saw on the LDL. HiRAD is reporting Medford, NY with a thunderstorm right now, when there is clearly nothing on the radar.  :dunno:  :wacko:

EDIT: It appears the LDL is stuck on 2 days ago! The forecast on the LDL called for 73°F with a 100% chance of Thunderstorms, which was the forecast for 6/25/12! The LDL is still on during the commercial breaks. The forecast on the LDL also includes a forecast for Tuesday, which already happened!!! Deja Vu
That's been happening a lot on my IS lately. The first time I saw it happening, the LDL stayed on for more than a day. When it was supposed to be on, there would appear to be two "lights" under the yellow city bar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 28, 2012, 08:01:31 AM
I feel incredibly stupid for not noticing this sooner, but I never realized there's a fade in/out transition on the time shown on the HD LF. :no: I noticed it for the first time yesterday while doing a test video recording on my HD PVR.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 28, 2012, 11:39:43 AM
Would this make a good IntelliStar background? this was used during the extreme heat segment
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 28, 2012, 12:00:37 PM
With some color tweaking, I think it would look pretty good.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 28, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
With the current templates being used? Absolutely not, that burnt contrast of colors doesn't work. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 28, 2012, 01:20:48 PM
With the current templates being used? Absolutely not, that burnt contrast of colors doesn't work. :no:

The templates would probably be different if that background was used.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 28, 2012, 04:03:49 PM
I'm under a CODE RED Air Quality Alert now for tomorrow. I'll see if it shows up on the LF this evening because I've also have never seen a code red on the current IS before. :no:

Quote
AIR QUALITY ALERT MESSAGE
GEORGIA DEPT OF NATURAL RESOURCES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION DIVISION
RELAYED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA
140 PM EDT THU JUN 28 2012

...CODE RED AIR QUALITY ALERT IS IN EFFECT FOR ATLANTA FOR
FRIDAY JUNE 29...

THE GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES...ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION DIVISION HAS ISSUED A CODE RED (UNHEALTHY FOR
MANY PEOPLE) AIR QUALITY ALERT FOR ATLANTA FOR
FRIDAY JUNE 29.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 28, 2012, 04:17:03 PM
I tried to record the Code Purple yesterday, but the IS had already switched over to the next day ;(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 28, 2012, 04:37:29 PM
I tried to record the Code Purple yesterday, but the IS had already switched over to the next day ;(

Was it in effect for Wednesday and it had already switched over to Thursday's AQF? If so, it must of have been after 4pm ET when you tried to catch it, that's usually when the forecast products update to the following day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 28, 2012, 04:40:44 PM
Yes, exactly. It was issued yesterday at 5 PM CT until sunset. It had already switched to today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 28, 2012, 05:04:01 PM
Yes, exactly. It was issued yesterday at 5 PM CT until sunset. It had already switched to today.

Oh ok, well that explains it then. In my case it's in effect for tomorrow so I should be able to catch it. The problem is I don't know from memory what LFs show the AQ forecast since they reduced the flavors. Hopefully tomorrow I'll catch it then (I didn't see it show up during the 4pm hour of WCL) so I'm guessing that must mean their on 2 min. flavors now. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 28, 2012, 05:32:04 PM
I tried to record an AQF yesterday, in the odd chance that it did show purple, but I didn't see it at all :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 28, 2012, 05:36:06 PM
There's a reason that it's called the Air Quality Forecast.. ;) Chances are that it updates to the following day whenever the current day's forecast product expires.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 28, 2012, 05:54:50 PM
I meant that the product did not show at all yesterday. It hasn't shown today either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 28, 2012, 06:04:13 PM
Because the AQF isn't in any 1:00 or 1:30 flavors I dont think :no: your best bet would be to watch during YWT/WUWA at :28/:58 and see then since those are the last places to see a 2:00 flavor on the network
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 28, 2012, 11:58:51 PM
Here's the newest ID video.
TWCHD_20120628 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk7rk0fKLsw#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 29, 2012, 05:22:48 AM
There's a third new ID of a swimming pool and a pool floater. Saw it a half an hour ago.

EDIT: I was able to catch the Code Red on the AQ forecast this morning. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 29, 2012, 10:43:54 AM
"Smog Alert"...I've never seen that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 29, 2012, 10:50:53 AM
There's a third new ID of a swimming pool and a pool floater. Saw it a half an hour ago.

EDIT: I was able to catch the Code Red on the AQ forecast this morning. :yes:

Nice catch  :thumbsup: :clap:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 29, 2012, 04:49:01 PM
I uploaded a sat lf of the nations temps. Feel free to watch it here:
TWC HD LF 6/29/12 Heatwave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFIA-LaHgNI#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 29, 2012, 07:56:52 PM
Bedford, MA Fios IntelliStar
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 29, 2012, 10:59:38 PM
The ID is back on TWC SD on FiOS.

Star ID number on the top right.
"VERIZON SERVICES CORP." in the middle.

Font was bold. I'll add a pic when it runs this hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 29, 2012, 11:18:52 PM
Yes, we know what the station ID looks like for those with text-only.. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 29, 2012, 11:25:36 PM
Ok. It's been so long since since I've seen a cable system ID and the old one used a different font.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 29, 2012, 11:30:52 PM
Ok. It's been so long since since I've seen a cable system ID and the old one used a different font.
What exactly do you mean by the "old one"? :unsure: Do you mean the STAR XL? The different platforms each have different fonts for the ID screen
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 30, 2012, 06:47:22 AM
I don't know what the criteria for this is, but I wonder if I'll see the Heat Safety Tips screen today? Eh, probably not since they shrunk the LFs down in time, there may not be enough time to show it. :hmm: :(

EDIT: I forgot to mention my ID is displaying info again. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on June 30, 2012, 01:52:55 PM
"A few isolated thunderstorms developing during the afternoon under partly cloudy skies."

Has anyone heard this narration? To me, it sounds a little weird.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 30, 2012, 04:43:39 PM
Ok. It's been so long since since I've seen a cable system ID and the old one used a different font.
What exactly do you mean by the "old one"? :unsure: Do you mean the STAR XL? The different platforms each have different fonts for the ID screen


I was thinking pre Intellistar of this ID font from the Weather Star 3000.
Weather Channel ID 2002 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9x3JZsyRbw#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 30, 2012, 05:02:07 PM
Ok. It's been so long since since I've seen a cable system ID and the old one used a different font.
What exactly do you mean by the "old one"? :unsure: Do you mean the STAR XL? The different platforms each have different fonts for the ID screen


I was thinking pre Intellistar of this ID font from the Weather Star 3000.
Weather Channel ID 2002 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9x3JZsyRbw#[/url])
That's the 4000, not the III.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on July 01, 2012, 02:00:55 PM
I noticed just before the 1:58pm ET Local Forecast TWC ran a "Happy 4th of July" animation for the "Now your local on the 8's: promo.
Do they usually run holiday promos early?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 01, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
Yes, and they always have for holidays.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 01, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
I'm surprised they bothered to show an LF at 11 past. I figured they would have skipped that one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on July 01, 2012, 03:39:23 PM
A question about the alert scrolls on the IntelliStar.
On the alert scrolling now on FiOS it's just four alert tones at the start of the text scroll.
If I'm correct there's another version with 3 beeps and then a voice played saying something similar to "A severe thunderstorm warning is in effect for your area."
Who determines if it's 4 beeps and no voice or 3 beeps and the voice?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 01, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
Usually you'll hear 3-beep narration 3-beep at initial issue of the warning then after the first completion of the product, it will go to the 4-beep pattern until the warning expires. Do correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 01, 2012, 03:49:00 PM
Zach, AFAIK, that's exactly right.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 01, 2012, 04:01:43 PM
Sometimes when it first starts over with the warning the narration still plays like it did the first time, then the third time it's the 4 beeps. I've seen that happen numerous times. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 01, 2012, 10:22:43 PM
Usually you'll hear 3-beep narration 3-beep at initial issue of the warning then after the first completion of the product, it will go to the 4-beep pattern until the warning expires. Do correct me if I am wrong.
Occasionally however the warning crawl restarts entirely (you can tell when the crawl flashes a split second), even if there isn't an update. When this occurs you'll also hear the narration.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 02, 2012, 10:12:40 AM
Been meaning to ask this for a while, what does the "TL" stand for when they show the forecast for South/North Central regions?



Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 02, 2012, 10:38:09 AM
Been meaning to ask this for a while, what does the "TL" stand for when they show the forecast for South/North Central regions?

I keep thinking it's short for CTL = Central but i might be wrong

my area ended up getting the red box this morning for the 4th
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 02, 2012, 10:50:52 AM
 :doh: I should really think before I post. That was so obvious, I was only thinking about the SC/NC part being an abbreviation for North/South Central, I wasn't even thinking about the fact that "CTL" as a whole stood for central.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on July 02, 2012, 07:41:11 PM
I had thought some of the 11am-2pm hours used the LDL Squeeze back LF  at :10 and :40 after like the do with WCL. Today it was not used for Day Planner at 1pm ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 02, 2012, 07:45:26 PM
It's never been used on DP since the integration of the afternoon longform block :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on July 02, 2012, 09:33:16 PM
Right it's used at 2pm. I forgot since I don't watch those hours since the schedule change.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 04, 2012, 11:15:55 AM
The heat safety tips screen showed up on my IS at :58, due to the heat index being 100°. I wish I had recorded it. >_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 04, 2012, 11:28:41 AM
The heat index was only 100, and they showed the HST screen? Ours doesn't show unless it is 115º+ and there is an open slot :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 04, 2012, 11:33:18 AM
The heat index was only 100, and they showed the HST screen? Ours doesn't show unless it is 115º+ and there is an open slot :unsure:
IIRC, yours showed at a 105° value last year.. at any rate, it really varies by geographical location (I think).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 04, 2012, 11:45:50 AM
Nope, the first and only time I saw it last year, it was at 120. Either way, it does vary by location, similar to the Heat Advisory criteria at the NWS. I would think that since Pavel was in Chicago, 100 would be nothing compared to the forecasted 110 heat index reading today. Then again, maybe it was manually triggered due to their Excessive Heat Warning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 04, 2012, 11:57:17 AM
Nope, the first and only time I saw it last year, it was at 120. Either way, it does vary by location, similar to the Heat Advisory criteria at the NWS. I would think that since Pavel was in Chicago, 100 would be nothing compared to the forecasted 110 heat index reading today. Then again, maybe it was manually triggered due to their Excessive Heat Warning.
There's still an excessive heat warning in effect, so I'm guessing that's why. The HST screen only shows up on 2:00 LFs, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 04, 2012, 04:07:56 PM
4 years ago to this date. I wish they would use it again but it probably sounds too jazzy for them :(
July 2008 Daytime 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuAjQ-C5f3k#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Steve-O on July 05, 2012, 12:17:54 AM
I noticed the red outline box on the seven day for possible severe weather.  Last time I saw it was back when Irene was going to hit us back last August.  Has it been brought back?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 05, 2012, 12:23:18 AM
I noticed the red outline box on the seven day for possible severe weather.  Last time I saw it was back when Irene was going to hit us back last August.  Has it been brought back?
The red boxes only appear whenever extreme weather is prominent in your area and has to be activated by TWC manually. It's never been discontinued, but maybe nothing major has happened between now and Irene to where your area's IntelliStar would need to have the red box utilized.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Steve-O on July 05, 2012, 10:01:17 AM
I noticed the red outline box on the seven day for possible severe weather.  Last time I saw it was back when Irene was going to hit us back last August.  Has it been brought back?
The red boxes only appear whenever extreme weather is prominent in your area and has to be activated by TWC manually. It's never been discontinued, but maybe nothing major has happened between now and Irene to where your area's IntelliStar would need to have the red box utilized.

Strange. We've had significant weather since Irene but I've not seen the red box on the seven day until yesterday. Thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 06, 2012, 06:25:24 PM
Though it's an NBCUniversal station and has probably happened before, it was interesting and just a little different to see TWC advertising a show on E! for their LOT8s bumper. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on July 06, 2012, 07:01:20 PM
In March the LOT8's was sponsored by the FOX show "Touch",
FOX Promo on The Weather Channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_RfBVBAWOs#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 06, 2012, 11:24:46 PM
Though it's an NBCUniversal station and has probably happened before, it was interesting and just a little different to see TWC advertising a show on E! for their LOT8s bumper. :thinking:
In May or June they were advertising Necessary Roughness (from USA) on the white bottom bar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 10, 2012, 11:52:35 AM
Sorry for the double post, but is anyone else's IS out? Mine has been out for several LFs already.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on July 10, 2012, 12:22:48 PM
...is anyone else's IS out? Mine has been out for several LFs already.

My IS is working fine. The outage on yours could be an issue with your headend.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on July 13, 2012, 10:32:00 PM
Sorry for the double post, but is anyone else's IS out? Mine has been out for several LFs already.
Has your IS come back by now?  If not, you might want to post a thread about it in the Tech Support boards.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on July 14, 2012, 01:06:00 AM
Sorry for the double post, but is anyone else's IS out? Mine has been out for several LFs already.
Has your IS come back by now?  If not, you might want to post a thread about it in the Tech Support boards.
No, it hasn't. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on July 17, 2012, 10:13:45 AM
We're getting the red "bar" for Monday on our LOT8's now due to "continuing drought conditions will persist on MONDAY." First time I've seen it activated for anything other than severe or tropical weather.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 17, 2012, 10:52:10 AM
We're getting the red "bar" for Monday on our LOT8's now due to "continuing drought conditions will persist on MONDAY." First time I've seen it activated for anything other than severe or tropical weather.

That's a very interesting use of the red bar.  I also had no idea they'd use it for long-term events like a drought. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on July 17, 2012, 11:58:09 AM
We're getting the red "bar" for Monday on our LOT8's now due to "continuing drought conditions will persist on MONDAY." First time I've seen it activated for anything other than severe or tropical weather.

Wow that's interesting  :huh:

Can you post a screenshot if possible? I would love to see the red box for drought conditions.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 17, 2012, 12:00:12 PM
I think that's a rather odd reason to initiate a red box since it's not something short term if you ask me.  :noexpression:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on July 17, 2012, 05:16:13 PM
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2731/droughtv.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/droughtv.jpg/)
Looks horrible with it taken from my iPhone, cropped, then resized. Sorry. :/

By the way... it also shows up on weather.com, except it's on Tuesday, July 24.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 25, 2012, 06:59:00 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked, but does anyone have a list of songs currently on the emergency feed?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 25, 2012, 07:23:41 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked, but does anyone have a list of songs currently on the emergency feed?
In no particular order:
Gooding - Station
Gooding - Montana Girl
Ryan Farish - Anthem of Hope
Ryan Farish - Searching
Bobby Arnold - Daydreamer
Moby - Rushing
The Smiths - Oscilatte Wildly

There's also a Trance Fury song on the list, but I am unsure of the title.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 25, 2012, 11:39:40 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked, but does anyone have a list of songs currently on the emergency feed?
In no particular order:
Gooding - Station
Gooding - Montana Girl
Ryan Farish - Anthem of Hope
Ryan Farish - Searching
Bobby Arnold - Daydreamer
Moby - Rushing
The Smiths - Oscilatte Wildly

There's also a Trance Fury song on the list, but I am unsure of the title.
Thanks.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on July 25, 2012, 11:49:23 PM
In no particular order:
Gooding - Station
Gooding - Montana Girl
Ryan Farish - Anthem of Hope
Ryan Farish - Searching
Bobby Arnold - Daydreamer
Moby - Rushing
The Smiths - Oscilatte Wildly

There's also a Trance Fury song on the list, but I am unsure of the title.

I was also wondering about what songs are currently being played on the current EF. Thanks much Mike!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 25, 2012, 11:58:57 PM
In no particular order:
Gooding - Station
Gooding - Montana Girl
Ryan Farish - Anthem of Hope
Ryan Farish - Searching
Bobby Arnold - Daydreamer
Moby - Rushing
The Smiths - Oscilatte Wildly

There's also a Trance Fury song on the list, but I am unsure of the title.

I was also wondering about what songs are currently being played on the current EF. Thanks much Mike!  :biggrin:
Sounds right, but are you sure? I don't recall seeing Trance Fury on there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 26, 2012, 01:52:36 PM
They got rid of Trammell off the emergency feed?! When did this happen?  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 26, 2012, 01:55:14 PM
They got rid of Trammell off the emergency feed?! When did this happen?  :huh:
It happened back in late January.. :hmm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh4VRl1wD0g&feature=player_detailpage#t=54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh4VRl1wD0g&feature=player_detailpage#t=54s)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 26, 2012, 01:59:59 PM
It happened back in late January.. :hmm:
Shows you how much I've been paying attention. :P That's a damned shame though. <_<

Although I guess it kind of makes sense why they did that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 26, 2012, 02:00:45 PM
In no particular order:
Gooding - Station
Gooding - Montana Girl
Ryan Farish - Anthem of Hope
Ryan Farish - Searching
Bobby Arnold - Daydreamer
Moby - Rushing
The Smiths - Oscilatte Wildly

There's also a Trance Fury song on the list, but I am unsure of the title.


I was also wondering about what songs are currently being played on the current EF. Thanks much Mike!  :biggrin:

Sounds right, but are you sure? I don't recall seeing Trance Fury on there.
Is this Trance Fury?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUQ2jbJu6cA&feature=player_detailpage#t=14s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUQ2jbJu6cA&feature=player_detailpage#t=14s)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 26, 2012, 02:26:29 PM
In no particular order:
Gooding - Station
Gooding - Montana Girl
Ryan Farish - Anthem of Hope
Ryan Farish - Searching
Bobby Arnold - Daydreamer
Moby - Rushing
The Smiths - Oscilatte Wildly

There's also a Trance Fury song on the list, but I am unsure of the title.


I was also wondering about what songs are currently being played on the current EF. Thanks much Mike!  :biggrin:

Sounds right, but are you sure? I don't recall seeing Trance Fury on there.
Is this Trance Fury?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUQ2jbJu6cA&feature=player_detailpage#t=14s[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUQ2jbJu6cA&feature=player_detailpage#t=14s[/url])

That was a later cut of Montana Girl, and Oscillate Wildly playing in the middle of the clip.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 26, 2012, 02:59:21 PM
In no particular order:
Gooding - Station
Gooding - Montana Girl
Ryan Farish - Anthem of Hope
Ryan Farish - Searching
Bobby Arnold - Daydreamer
Moby - Rushing
The Smiths - Oscilatte Wildly

There's also a Trance Fury song on the list, but I am unsure of the title.


I was also wondering about what songs are currently being played on the current EF. Thanks much Mike!  :biggrin:

Sounds right, but are you sure? I don't recall seeing Trance Fury on there.
Is this Trance Fury?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUQ2jbJu6cA&feature=player_detailpage#t=14s[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUQ2jbJu6cA&feature=player_detailpage#t=14s[/url])

That was a later cut of Montana Girl, and Oscillate Wildly playing in the middle of the clip.
Wow, I see that now (and I have the song :wacko:).. so I guess that's the emergency feed
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 26, 2012, 04:00:03 PM
A YouTube user commented how one of the songs on the June playlist would be fitting as a Storm Alert Theme. I would have to agree with him. This sounds a lot like a fitting storm alert theme or a winter storm warning theme.
Bumblebee - Steve Jablonsky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x7qrRCBw3c#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 26, 2012, 04:03:05 PM
A YouTube user commented how one of the songs on the June playlist would be fitting as a Storm Alert Theme. I would have to agree with him. This sounds a lot like a fitting storm alert theme or a winter storm warning theme.
Bumblebee - Steve Jablonsky ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x7qrRCBw3c#ws[/url])


If only they removed the vocal music for movie music like this i'll be happier with the playlists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on July 27, 2012, 10:09:18 AM
I think I recall Moby's "Living" also on the EF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 27, 2012, 10:40:25 AM
I think I recall Moby's "Living" also on the EF.
You sure you aren't confusing it for Rushing by Moby or Station by Gooding? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 27, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
I think she means Flying Foxes. I recorded the morning daypart this morning for my august playlist and did not hear Living  (but this was SD)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 27, 2012, 11:44:34 AM
I think she means Flying Foxes. I recorded the morning daypart this morning for my august playlist and did not hear Living  (but this was SD)
No no no, she was talking about the emergency feed (hence the "EF"). ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 27, 2012, 12:56:24 PM
Oh sorry I didn't see that part
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 07, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
At :48, I saw that my STAR displayed the tides screen in place of the marine forecast screen  :blink: 

Is the tides product supposed to be seen during 60-second flavors for coastal STARs?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 07, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
At :48, I saw that my STAR displayed the tides screen in place of the marine forecast screen  :blink: 

Is the tides product supposed to be seen during 60-second flavors for coastal STARs?  :unsure:

Here we only see the Marine Page on the 60 second.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 07, 2012, 08:51:28 PM
At :48, I saw that my STAR displayed the tides screen in place of the marine forecast screen  :blink: 

Is the tides product supposed to be seen during 60-second flavors for coastal STARs?  :unsure:

Here we only see the Marine Page on the 60 second.

Me too here in Long Beach/Astoria. The only time I ever see the tides screen is only during the 2-minute flavors which happens during the morning hours, so I'm guessing that the appearance of that particular screen on the 60-second flavor must a rare sight to see  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lightning on August 08, 2012, 06:26:29 PM
What is so annoying to me is during long-form programming, depending on what show is on, they'll have a "local on the 8s" by showing the LDL bar, but no radar, like the local on the 8s shows. Just the normal LDL bar that you see when OCMs are reporting the weather like during "Day Planner". The LDL bar during long-form programming is no local on the 8s!  :angry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 10, 2012, 11:34:35 AM
The Weather Channel - Severe thunderstorm warning in Maine - July 30, 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebHnfcNnrKc#)

Clip courtesy of epzik8 on YouTube

Look at the very beginning and the end of this video clip. Do you see what I see?  :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 10, 2012, 11:42:14 AM
So they don't feed data to 33% LDL anymore? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on August 10, 2012, 11:44:50 AM
My first thought was maybe TWC will bring that LDL back for the Local on the 8's for shows that only the LDL is used. Like Lightning said, maybe they realize a radar is important for a local forecast. Interesting to see. Thanks!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 10, 2012, 08:45:44 PM
So they don't feed data to 33% LDL anymore? :huh:

I would think the Data was missing for a reason.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 14, 2012, 09:23:13 AM
So they don't feed data to 33% LDL anymore? :huh:

I would think the Data was missing for a reason.

Talked with someone from TWC and they said the 33% LDL was showing by mistake and the Star has since been rebooted.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 14, 2012, 11:25:11 AM
So the fog icon is messed up on the DirecTV LFs now  :P

Moby - Flying Foxes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqeigUyi5xg#)

Taken at 7:08 AM ET
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 14, 2012, 01:02:26 PM
I just noticed something... the new (meaning newer than the DirecTV local forecast) national local forecast LDL must be extremely annoying (not to mention totally useless) to viewers now, being visible just from Sacremento to Washington, D.C.

I never understood why they don't extend the DirecTV forecast out by another several seconds just to fill the entire local forecast segment.  Cable viewers don't get national radar and satellite views, so I don't know why the DirecTV viewers have to.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 14, 2012, 01:09:08 PM

I never understood why they don't extend the DirecTV forecast out by another several seconds just to fill the entire local forecast segment.  Cable viewers don't get national radar and satellite views, so I don't know why the DirecTV viewers have to.
Personally, I like the idea, since the DirecTV LF's radar is almost impossible to see...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 14, 2012, 01:19:59 PM
I just noticed something... the new (meaning newer than the DirecTV local forecast) national local forecast LDL must be extremely annoying (not to mention totally useless) to viewers now, being visible just from Sacremento to Washington, D.C.
You have to understand that this product was developed back in 2008, and the day prior to its release, the (at the time) IntelliStar-generated LDL stopped appearing on the LFs, and when the LF slides finished, the last product was a view of the satellite/radar for the last 3 hours covering 4 regions of the nation. As for the newer satellite LF, you also have to know that DISH customers see the national forecast at all times, so having conditions for 46 major cities across the states seems reasonable.

I never understood why they don't extend the DirecTV forecast out by another several seconds just to fill the entire local forecast segment.  Cable viewers don't get national radar and satellite views, so I don't know why the DirecTV viewers have to.
I absolutely agree with you. In fact, before it came out (but the news was made), I was expecting to see a similar lineup of that to the IntelliStar (such as local radar and air quality). As for the radar, I really think there could be both a national and a local radar screen. However, the only radar images existent in TWC's database are completely watermarked and I doubt TWC would want to publish their local radar images ("Classic map" on weather.com) without watermark.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 23, 2012, 11:24:51 AM
There was a problem withthe text based forecast on my IntelliStar, (may have been a HiRAD outage) the narration said "our local forecast", the weather animation the right side was missing on all 3 slides for today, tonight, and Friday and the weather information under each daypart for example was one sentence.

Today
Sunny skies.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on August 23, 2012, 11:47:11 AM
There was a problem withthe text based forecast on my IntelliStar, (may have been a HiRAD outage) the narration said "our local forecast", the weather animation the right side was missing on all 3 slides for today, tonight, and Friday and the weather information under each daypart for example was one sentence.

Today
Sunny skies.

Same thing happened in my Central Park with an incomplete Local Forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 23, 2012, 12:08:21 PM
I just posted a similar thing in the blooper thread.  The Intellistar 2 showed (in the text-based, not primarily-picture, format) a one-sentence forecast for all three slides - just the weather conditions, no temperature, wind, or chance of precipitation.  The animation was accurate, but there was no narration due to time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 23, 2012, 12:11:50 PM
If only the narration could stay that way, gives the LF an XL feel when you don't have to listen to him blab on and on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on August 23, 2012, 12:35:03 PM
The XL's text-based forecast is  messed up too. It's just giving one-sentence per slide, which is just the forecast sky conditions, nothing else.
http://www.youtube.com/v/UIggG1UBUGA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 23, 2012, 12:49:32 PM
What if this was a beta test over all platforms? because i don't know how the IS2,XL,IS would see the same one sentence Forecasts.

and i was told there were no changes slated for this summer. (got this reply in July)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on August 23, 2012, 12:51:24 PM
It's doing it on weather.com too
http://www.weather.com/weather/narrative/61938 (http://www.weather.com/weather/narrative/61938)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on August 23, 2012, 03:04:03 PM
The full text based forecast is back starting with Tonight's Forecast and beyond.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 23, 2012, 03:53:14 PM
The XL's text-based forecast is  messed up too. It's just giving one-sentence per slide, which is just the forecast sky conditions, nothing else.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/UIggG1UBUGA[/url]
Gee, that surely doesn't look vague..  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 23, 2012, 07:00:21 PM
TWC has this annoying graphic on screen during taped programming.
([url]http://t.imgbox.com/adhx2KT7.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imgbox.com/adhx2KT7[/url])
When the national LDL came on at 6:18pm for the local forecast it was on top of the graphic.
If the storm is that important then stay live if not the graphic on screen is really unnecessary.
What does that have to do with the LF though? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 23, 2012, 09:11:57 PM
To be fair, it's showing up during live programming also.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 23, 2012, 10:19:48 PM
They are doing something different during live shows. The graphic is above the LDL.
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg175231/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg175231/)
Again, that has nothing to do with the LF :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 23, 2012, 10:31:13 PM
They are doing something different during live shows. The graphic is above the LDL.
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg175231/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/general-twc-discussion/msg175231/)
You might want to post these on-air findings in the General TWC Discussion thread.  This LF thread is read by a lot who are only looking for things just related to the LF. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 24, 2012, 05:22:01 PM
HD LF video feed ran about 12 seconds (approx.) too late, there was a black screen with the audio still playing anyway and the HD LF gets abruptly cut off as there's not enough time to run the rest of the forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 25, 2012, 11:03:29 AM
I got some pics of 24629 from today.. including a red box on the week ahead and a flood warning update. Also attached are its metro map, radar maps and ID screens
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 25, 2012, 05:31:25 PM
Uploaded my latest batch of TWC tunes on the WFMZ Accuweather channel. check it out if you wish, and figure out how many you remember hearing on the LF:
Weather Channel Songs on Accuweather 69 #9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGsFD5Fw5wE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 26, 2012, 11:29:35 AM
11:28am LF - Storm alert music? :huh:

EDIT: Maybe it's not, but I still would like to know what that music was (attached a small clip below)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 26, 2012, 11:59:10 AM
Why is Rushing playing right now? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 26, 2012, 11:59:44 AM
Why is Rushing playing right now? :huh:
Are you hearing the emergency feed?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 26, 2012, 12:10:45 PM
No..it's on both SD and HD I flipped on both feeds to double check and I heard moby
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 26, 2012, 12:11:58 PM
No..it's on both SD and HD I flipped on both feeds to double check and I heard moby
The normal HD and SD SLFs can run properly with the emergency feed music so it must have been that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 26, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
Oh then I stand corrected. Now they're playing some headbanging rock tune i dont like it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 26, 2012, 12:31:46 PM
Oh then I stand corrected. Now they're playing some headbanging rock tune i dont like it
"All For You" by Sister Hazel.. I actually like that one :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 26, 2012, 01:29:45 PM
Take back what I said about the emergency feed, because Rushing is playing during the 1:28 PM ET LF.. weird :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 26, 2012, 01:46:43 PM
I'm looking at Daniel's YT clips and apparently they added some new instrumental songs on the overnight. Perhaps Rushing is on the August playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on August 26, 2012, 02:01:53 PM
Noticed a different ID playing today. It's from June but not been used much.
TWC ID (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZGEjFxtyNA#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 26, 2012, 02:09:26 PM
11:28am LF - Storm alert music? :huh:

EDIT: Maybe it's not, but I still would like to know what that music was (attached a small clip below)

TWC Local on the 8s Song from August 2012 #8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkFZZ36mydU#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on August 26, 2012, 02:14:44 PM
Checked a recording and that song played at 2:58am ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 26, 2012, 02:15:40 PM
Whatever song that is, I love it. :wub:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on August 26, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
Anybody else noticing the HD Intellistar LOT8's is staying on at 8pm ET/7pm CT for about 30 seconds and then it closes out area by area, then when it's all gone the local information is showing on the LDL with no background? So it's showing up over the national LDL. It's really weird.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: thegrudge58 on August 26, 2012, 08:42:29 PM
I haven't been on in a while, but I logged in to report that my intellistar HD was doing that thing where the LDL doesn't have the background. I'm gonna make a topic in the support board.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on August 26, 2012, 10:22:53 PM
I notice that the L-Bar/Squeezeback is not appearing at :08/:38 as it always does. The LF plays instead.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 27, 2012, 11:04:30 AM
As of this morning I have not seen a 2-minute LF flavor (it might be a mix-up due to coverage of TS Isaac) unless I missed something. Did anyone see a 2-minute flavor this morning?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on August 27, 2012, 11:07:34 AM
As of this morning I have not seen a 2-minute LF flavor (it might be a mix-up due to coverage of TS Isaac) unless I missed something. Did anyone see a 2-minute flavor this morning?  :unsure:
The LFs are shortened due to Isaac, something that's been done since 2005 :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 27, 2012, 11:13:06 AM
As of this morning I have not seen a 2-minute LF flavor (it might be a mix-up due to coverage of TS Isaac) unless I missed something. Did anyone see a 2-minute flavor this morning?  :unsure:
The LFs are shortened due to Isaac, something that's been done since 2005 :yes:
Ahh, I see now. I was well unaware that shortened LFs during coverage of hurricanes/tropical storms are normal. Thanks for the info Zach  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 27, 2012, 04:36:08 PM
Anyone ever seen this phrase before?  :unsure:(underlined in red)



Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 27, 2012, 04:54:12 PM
I haven't seen that phrase before, but I can interpret it as I've seen that come up in NWS forecasts.  It's saying that while showers are likely given the 60% chance of rain, the chance of a thunderstorm is lower but still there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 28, 2012, 10:13:14 AM
No LF at 10:08am, we may be heading into the duration of coverage where LFs will be limited or temporarily discontinued.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 28, 2012, 10:34:50 AM
No LF at 10:08am, we may be heading into the duration of coverage where LFs will be limited or temporarily discontinued.
Maybe the LF's would only be limited to only :28/:58?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 28, 2012, 10:42:44 AM
No LF at 10:08am, we may be heading into the duration of coverage where LFs will be limited or temporarily discontinued.
Maybe the LF's would only be limited to only :28/:58?

It might be, but since I made that post all LFs have aired at their specific timeslots (the one for :18 after the hour aired a minute early)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 28, 2012, 10:52:12 AM
The lf aired at :38
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 28, 2012, 12:51:41 PM
LFs have been discontinued since the Special advisory announced on now Hurricane Isaac.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 28, 2012, 01:00:02 PM
LFs have been discontinued since the Special advisory announced on now Hurricane Isaac.
I'm seeing an LF right now (12:58 pm eastern).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on August 28, 2012, 10:10:31 PM
LF's have been discontinued for :08/:18/:38/:48 and only air at :28/:58
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on August 28, 2012, 10:32:20 PM
No LF at 10:28pm ET on the national HD feed. Commercials then back to hurricane coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 28, 2012, 11:25:47 PM
No LF at :58 either  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on August 30, 2012, 08:53:14 PM
TWC - Memphis IntelliStar - FULL DAY of CC Screen Observations! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEsL6-nmLOU#ws)


I was home sick from school today, so I decided to record ALL of the day's LF's CC screens (with the exception of the 3:18 PM CT LF because my IS decided not to cue) and put them into this video. I was even lucky enough to catch a Tornado Warning scroll and a Wind Advisory scroll, courtesy of some of the outer bands of Isaac. Notice the "Showers in the Vicinity with Windy Conditions" CC report at 1:40!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 30, 2012, 09:42:26 PM
That's very interesting to see how the weather progresses throughout the day!  Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this! :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on August 30, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
How odd, I was listening to "Rushing" by Moby on my computer and then I clicked to play your video only to find out that Rushing was playing again and then I realized that you used Rushing for the video.  :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 02, 2012, 11:23:54 AM
Just wondering if anyone else is surprised that TWC is still playing the electronic music without many vocals. I know it's not an official playlist, but I'm happy that this selection of music is lasting this long.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 02, 2012, 11:59:47 AM
Electronic music? :unsure: The only song close to electronic that I can think of is Solar Sailer...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 02, 2012, 12:01:09 PM
She probably means the new age and stuff. I hope it lasts this way, for once I don't have to mute the tv whenever the lf comes on :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 02, 2012, 12:14:57 PM
It doesn't seem like to me they're using dayparts anymore, it seems like most of these songs play at any time of the day now...... :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 02, 2012, 01:14:35 PM
Yep, I meant the new-age stuff like "Rushing" and "Sunspot" because I wouldn't classify those as jazz (and iTunes categorizes them as electronic  :P). I'd take those songs over a daypart with the previous vocal music. Mainly, I'm just surprised that these nice songs continue to play well after Isaac.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 03, 2012, 12:38:12 AM
I like how the music is all instrumentals now and such, but I'm most certain that the vocal music will return to TWC sooner or later, unless the network eliminated the vocal music in response to the cries and criticism from the long-time viewers.  :thinking:  I guess we'll just have to find out what happens next, won't we?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 03, 2012, 01:06:00 AM
...unless the network eliminated the vocal music in response to the cries and criticism from the long-time viewers.  :thinking:

That will never happen.  NBC doesn't really care about the die-hard weather fans anymore.  It's more profitable to market to the longform program fans instead. :cry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 03, 2012, 04:06:56 AM
i have a feeling when WUWA or YWT come on today the Vocal Playlist will return.

Edit: Vocals back at 4:08am.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on September 03, 2012, 09:23:31 AM
They just couldn't bloody wait...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 03, 2012, 09:59:03 AM
I don't even hear any vocals yet. I don't care too much anymore, but I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 03, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
I don't even hear any vocals yet. I don't care too much anymore, but I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

4:08am was the only vocal song that played, i haven't heard any since either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 03, 2012, 12:27:36 PM
That's the Steve winwood song...at was playing during Isaac coverage
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 03, 2012, 12:30:28 PM
That's the Steve winwood song...at was playing during Isaac coverage
What's the Steve Winwood song? :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 03, 2012, 01:22:17 PM
Sigh..I wonder if anyone even bothered reading my other post in the playlist thread.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 03, 2012, 01:48:51 PM
Sigh..I wonder if anyone even bothered reading my other post in the playlist thread.
You didn't mention the title of the song in that post, so how was I supposed to know? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 04, 2012, 05:28:26 PM
TWC: This was [suspension of vocals], indeed, due to Isaac coverage. Vocals will be back soon – most likely tomorrow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 04, 2012, 05:42:31 PM
TWC: This was [suspension of vocals], indeed, due to Isaac coverage. Vocals will be back soon – most likely tomorrow.

I knew I had a feeling they would bring back the vocal music now that coverage of Isaac has finished  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 04, 2012, 05:47:26 PM
TWC: This was [suspension of vocals], indeed, due to Isaac coverage. Vocals will be back soon – most likely tomorrow.
Yeah, as was suspension of vocals after Irene during WUWA last year.. :club: :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lightning on September 04, 2012, 06:39:04 PM
The vocals do not belong on TWC as local forecast on the 8s music. Only instramental music should be featured on there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 04, 2012, 09:02:58 PM
We'll see what the verdict is when First Outlook Starts.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on September 04, 2012, 09:22:32 PM
At least they understand that vocal music is very unprofessional and very inappropriate to play during major severe weather situations. If only they knew it's not right to play vocal music anytime...just doesn't fit well on the lf.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 04, 2012, 09:59:38 PM
I'm not surprised they'll return, but I am surprised they didn't come back sooner. I still find it weird that they find their own music unprofessional at times...I just don't like how they find tacky songs that have weather in the song. Too cute for me.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on September 04, 2012, 10:35:09 PM
I'm surprised some of you even thought vocal music was over here.  The majority of most people prefer vocal music over instrumental music.  I hear it everywhere from others, which is why I keep most of my musical interests to myself.  TWC wants to look serious when everyone cares about their on-air programming during significant weather, but the general public really could care less when there's no weather.  Thus, entertainment is the only option left to keep viewership and ratings.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 05, 2012, 08:05:03 AM
I never thought it was over, but I did find it odd that the lack of the vocals continued for this long. I do applaud TWC for being professional about the music in times of dangerous weather though. The change of music was merely just an observation from me.

I actually didn't know most people preferred vocal over instrumental. TWC's choice in music does make sense.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 05, 2012, 10:31:18 AM
But if you really think about it wouldn't the average viewer find vocal music mixed with Narration rather annoying anyway?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on September 05, 2012, 03:04:22 PM
But if you really think about it wouldn't the average viewer find vocal music mixed with Narration rather annoying anyway?
I wonder if most people tune out the narration these days unless hearing Jim Cantore on the IS2 changes that issue.  While you have a point, it doesn't seem to be a big enough issue for TWC to bother with it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on September 05, 2012, 04:48:08 PM
People that may be illiterate or blind may need to hear the narrations on the local forecast, but with vocal music, it can be rather disrupting.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 05, 2012, 04:59:57 PM
I dont really think the vocals are a distraction from the narration.. both the IntelliStar and the IS2 duck down the national TWC audio when narration is playing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 05, 2012, 06:35:08 PM
At first, I completely hated the vocal music when they started playing it a few months ago, but then I kinda got used to it and then just accepted it  :itsok:  I imagine TWC added the vocal music just for ratings and money, and if that's what they're doing, then we the viewers will just have to probably accept it, right?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on September 05, 2012, 08:17:19 PM
At first, I completely hated the vocal music when they started playing it a few months ago, but then I kinda got used to it and then just accepted it  :itsok:  I imagine TWC added the vocal music just for ratings and money, and if that's what they're doing, then we the viewers will just have to probably accept it, right?
That's pretty much the answer, but you can look forward to another big weather event that will cause them to change the music now that you know what they did for Isaac coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on September 06, 2012, 02:16:49 AM
But if you really think about it wouldn't the average viewer find vocal music mixed with Narration rather annoying anyway?
Nope in fact most people I know actually pay attention to it more.

At first, I completely hated the vocal music when they started playing it a few months ago, but then I kinda got used to it and then just accepted it  :itsok:  I imagine TWC added the vocal music just for ratings and money, and if that's what they're doing, then we the viewers will just have to probably accept it, right?
I mean ratings and money dont really have anything to do with the local on the 8s. It probably cost a lot more to license the vocal songs. Its about attracting audiences and keeping people interested. Songs people recognize and relate to help draw them in more and pay closer attention. Smooth jazz is nice but few people appreciate it. I think its a smart idea. I've enjoyed many of the selections they picked. I do miss the fact that TWC was a place to find and discover jazz music. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 06, 2012, 11:55:49 AM
At first, I completely hated the vocal music when they started playing it a few months ago, but then I kinda got used to it and then just accepted it  :itsok:  I imagine TWC added the vocal music just for ratings and money, and if that's what they're doing, then we the viewers will just have to probably accept it, right?
I mean ratings and money dont really have anything to do with the local on the 8s. It probably cost a lot more to license the vocal songs. Its about attracting audiences and keeping people interested. Songs people recognize and relate to help draw them in more and pay closer attention. Smooth jazz is nice but few people appreciate it. I think its a smart idea. I've enjoyed many of the selections they picked. I do miss the fact that TWC was a place to find and discover jazz music. :(

I miss the smooth jazz myself  :( 

If TWC wants to change the music on the LOT8s to attract more viewers, then I guess it's best to just live with it.

Let's all be thankful that the LOT8s is still around  ;)  despite that there are less of them during long-form blocks.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 06, 2012, 02:39:51 PM
I miss the smooth jazz myself  :( 

If you miss the Smooth Jazz you'll always have the Music Page (https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=music/monthly) as a reference of memory :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 07, 2012, 09:39:57 AM
Looks like they forgot about the vocals :P Wednesday has long passed
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 07, 2012, 10:48:41 AM
I don't remember what the name of this song was on the playlist, but apparently it's ID on YT as "Easy Ride" by Bill Kilpatrick.

IntelliStar - September 23, 2011 1:28am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSTJMlPkBMo#)

EDIT: CDBaby confirms this.  :yes:
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/billkilpatrick2 (http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/billkilpatrick2)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 07, 2012, 12:35:39 PM
Over Easy
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 07, 2012, 12:38:00 PM
Look at the text-based forecast on this LF clip I recorded from my local STAR this morning...

TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Sep. 7, 2012- 7:58AM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4ERo9eT3w4#)

Did anyone here ever seen or heard of those two phrases?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 07, 2012, 03:50:12 PM
Looks like they forgot about the vocals :P Wednesday has long passed
Well, they do have "Can't Find My Way Home" by Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood on the playlist but I'm not sure if that really warrants being classified as a "vocal" song since the vocals in the time of the song chosen are maybe only 20-40 seconds.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 12, 2012, 01:23:15 AM
Anyone here besides me find the :28/:58 LOT8s intro that simply just says "Now, your local on the 8s" dull and boring?  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 12, 2012, 10:10:00 AM
Anyone here besides me find the :28/:58 LOT8s intro that simply just says "Now, your local on the 8s" dull and boring?  :thumbdown:

Not really since i don't pay attention to it  :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on September 12, 2012, 10:51:03 AM
Can't say I do! I prefer that over a promo for a show.

Still no vocals yet. I'm surprised. I'm happy to hear the current music as long as TWC is willing to keep it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on September 12, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
Anyone here besides me find the :28/:58 LOT8s intro that simply just says "Now, your local on the 8s" dull and boring?  :thumbdown:
As soon as the holidays approach, I'm sure it will change anyway.  They always have in the past.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 13, 2012, 10:59:13 AM
Can't say I do! I prefer that over a promo for a show.

Still no vocals yet. I'm surprised. I'm happy to hear the current music as long as TWC is willing to keep it.

That didn't last very long, vocals are back at 10:58am
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on September 13, 2012, 12:01:17 PM
Looks like there were others that appreciated the temporary change back to instrumentals.. and TWC even liked the post!
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n285/claytonleffler/twclot8s.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on September 14, 2012, 06:17:47 AM
So it seems the instrumentals that were playing have been confined to the Overnight list only. :itsok:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 14, 2012, 11:23:09 AM
So it seems the instrumentals that were playing have been confined to the Overnight list only. :itsok:

At this rate (since the overnight is my favorite daypart) i think that's the only benefit for me to watch TWC anymore.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 15, 2012, 09:07:37 PM
I was checking out the forecast for tonight in Spokane, WA via weather.com and at point it said "Areas of smoke and haze are possible, reducing visibilities at times." Anyone ever see (or even hear) that phrase on the IntelliSTAR before?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 19, 2012, 04:59:41 PM
Anybody wanna take a crack at telling me why it's important to mention about an ongoing drought for two out of the ten days on the forecast as if the drought will magically end after the second day? :rolleyes:

I could see if it's mentioned ALL ten days, but it's not. What's so special about those two days? :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 20, 2012, 09:01:46 AM
Since TWC is playing John Legend can't they play other R&B Artists?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 22, 2012, 06:30:54 AM
I just went through some scheduled recordings I set while I slept (trying to get that Eric Clapton song) and apparently new Autumn Station IDs debuted. (4:58 and 5:58am respectfully) :yes:

-First is of a backyard with rain falling and raindrops dripping off of an awning.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img13/8159/snapshot29222012115pm.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/snapshot29222012115pm.png/)

-Second is of a creek or stream with orange leaves banked up against rocks.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img802/6728/snapshot19222012114pm.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/snapshot19222012114pm.png/)

EDIT: Screenshots if you don't want to download the attachments.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 23, 2012, 01:15:46 PM
I'm embarrassed to say I'm Trammell illiterate :P Could someone tell me the name of this song? Found this in my old backups: Trammell Error May 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmwL8yzQKE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 23, 2012, 01:21:28 PM
I'm embarrassed to say I'm Trammell illiterate :P Could someone tell me the name of this song? Found this in my old backups: Trammell Error May 2009 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmwL8yzQKE#[/url])


It's called "Easy Times"  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 23, 2012, 01:48:38 PM
I'm embarrassed to say I'm Trammell illiterate :P Could someone tell me the name of this song? Found this in my old backups: Trammell Error May 2009 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmwL8yzQKE#[/url])


It's called "Easy Times"  ;)

thank u ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 24, 2012, 12:24:12 PM
I haven't seen the cable headend logo nor the radio station card during the station ID segments since Saturday morning, possibly due to the new fall backgrounds. Is anybody else not seeing this on their headends either?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 24, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
I haven't seen the cable headend logo nor the radio station card during the station ID segments since Saturday morning, possibly due to the new fall backgrounds. Is anybody else not seeing this on their headends either?

it's blank here in southern new england also.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on September 24, 2012, 09:49:08 PM
I haven't seen the cable headend logo nor the radio station card during the station ID segments since Saturday morning, possibly due to the new fall backgrounds. Is anybody else not seeing this on their headends either?

it's blank here in southern new england also.
Missing here too
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 01, 2012, 12:14:13 PM
Looks like the New Bedford Intellistar deserves a reboot, it's currently showing a Severe Thunderstorm Watch from July 18th.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0490.html (http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0490.html)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 02, 2012, 05:16:51 PM
It appears my hometown and surrounding areas just went under a red flag warning for low humidity and winds. Just out of curiosity, how come TWC doesn't scroll this warning or show it on the weather bulletin page during LFs?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KevOwensby on October 02, 2012, 05:45:40 PM
It appears my hometown and surrounding areas just went under a red flag warning for low humidity and winds. Just out of curiosity, how come TWC doesn't scroll this warning or show it on the weather bulletin page during LFs?  :dunno:

They show Red Flag Warnings on our IS and IS2, but not on Weatherscan here. Why they show it on the other two and not a full-blown weather channel I have no idea. I don't know why it wouldn't scroll for you anywhere. It usually runs for a couple minutes then goes away. It cycles for about half an hour of scrolling off and on. It doesn't show up on the bulletins page, though. (At least that's how it is on the IS2.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 18, 2012, 04:04:10 PM
Caught this slight fail of the marine forecast on my STAR this morning....
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on October 23, 2012, 07:01:41 PM
Noticed a slight change to the Local On The 8's graphic background during taped programming.
(http://t.imgbox.com/aceP1KfV.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/aceP1KfV)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on October 23, 2012, 07:44:42 PM
Noticed a slight change to the Local On The 8's graphic background during taped programming.
([url]http://t.imgbox.com/aceP1KfV.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://imgbox.com/aceP1KfV[/url])


That doesn't look good at all. :no:  I doesn't match the rest of the LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on October 26, 2012, 10:35:04 PM
What's the pattern on which TWC logo is used on the satellite HD LF? (TWC HD vs. the TWC/weather.com/TWC Mobile logos) Is it random?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on October 26, 2012, 11:35:10 PM
What's the pattern on which TWC logo is used on the satellite HD LF? (TWC HD vs. the TWC/weather.com/TWC Mobile logos) Is it random?
The rotating logo is used on 2:00 flavors, while the static logo is used on the other flavors (same goes for SD satellite).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 27, 2012, 11:48:50 AM
I wish TWC still used the old Storm Alert music for approaching hurricanes such as Sandy  :(  I wonder why they stopped using it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 27, 2012, 05:58:46 PM
I wish TWC still used the old Storm Alert music for approaching hurricanes such as Sandy  :(  I wonder why they stopped using it.
Me too, it was very exclusive imo. I wish they would make a new theme or something
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on October 28, 2012, 08:48:11 AM
Winamac, Indiana's citywide cable system has a perfectly-working 4000.  Saw it last week when in town.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 28, 2012, 11:21:22 AM
Daheq, the icons on the HD LF's LDL were the nighttime ones at the 11:18 AM ET LF :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on October 28, 2012, 11:46:49 AM
It did it at :38 as well.

EDIT: Here's my video that I recorded at 11:38 AM ET. As of 12:18 PM ET, it's still showing night icons.

TWC - HD Satellite Forecast Glitch - Nighttime Icons on LDL - October 28, 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MheUQIYgDE#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on October 28, 2012, 01:23:47 PM
I'm surprised they have not switched to an instrumental playlist for the LOT8s.
As of 11am it was still the regular playlist.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 28, 2012, 02:09:33 PM
I'm surprised they have not switched to an instrumental playlist for the LOT8s.
As of 11am it was still the regular playlist.
I think that's Brian's responsibility to do that. Brian doesn't work on the weekends.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 28, 2012, 02:24:16 PM
I'm surprised they have not switched to an instrumental playlist for the LOT8s.
As of 11am it was still the regular playlist.
I think that's Brian's responsibility to do that. Brian doesn't work on the weekends.
I guess that explains why the instrumentals started on a Monday then during Isaac :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 28, 2012, 03:39:00 PM
I really like the music they're using for the Hurricane Sandy LOT8s intros. It reminds me of the 2006 Storm Alert music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 28, 2012, 08:31:03 PM
This song from the June 2012 playlist just played at 8:28pm ET. Ironically, I used this song in an emulation today. :blink:

June 2012 Overnight Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4rEFLWq7iE#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 28, 2012, 09:55:13 PM
This song from the June 2012 playlist just played at 8:28pm ET. Ironically, I used this song in an emulation today. :blink:

June 2012 Overnight Song ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4rEFLWq7iE#ws[/url])

"Rainy Day" by CC Gilmore. I'm watching TWC now it looks like they went to all instrumentals.

I heard a Steve Glotzer like song at :38 followed by "Montana Girl" by Gooding at :48
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 28, 2012, 09:59:26 PM
"Deluge" by Jeff Pearce at 9:58 PM ET
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 28, 2012, 10:00:39 PM
This song from the June 2012 playlist just played at 8:28pm ET. Ironically, I used this song in an emulation today. :blink:

June 2012 Overnight Song ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4rEFLWq7iE#ws[/url])

"Rainy Day" by CC Gilmore. I'm watching TWC now it looks like they went to all instrumentals.

I heard a Steve Glotzer like song at :38 followed by "Montana Girl" by Gooding at :48


That's a CC Gilmore song? Hmm, I would have never guessed that.  :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 28, 2012, 10:10:06 PM
"Chasing the Wind" by Matthew C Shuman now..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 28, 2012, 10:11:22 PM
My name is lincoln played at :28.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 28, 2012, 10:13:14 PM
As of today, there is a new fall background during the station ID segment.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 29, 2012, 06:12:44 AM
So are the currents on the hd LF broken? cuz the LDL temps/sky conditions now remain unchanged from yesterday morning .. :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on October 29, 2012, 10:26:40 AM
Recently I've heard The Vocal Local narration uses "Winds could occasionally gust over 40/50/60 mph. early/late" and now he said "Winds could occasionally gust over 70 mph. early". That's because of Hurricane Sandy threatening New York City.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsCfK3-MKp0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsCfK3-MKp0)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on October 29, 2012, 11:13:00 AM
If TWC just switches to instrumentals during storms and times of higher ratings, that tells me that they are embarrassed of the vocals and know it's unprofessional. Just stick with one choice so you don't need to alter the playlists. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 30, 2012, 01:18:52 AM
Even though Sandy is the top priority right now, there has not been one LF at all in 24 hours. That's gotta be the longest time no LF has aired due to extensive hurricane coverage :o and I'm assuming to going to continue for a while due to coverage of Sandy's aftermath  :unsure:

EDIT: An LF has aired as of 8:28AM PT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Patricius Maximus on October 30, 2012, 09:54:39 PM
LF's are definitely back, and I outlined in another post how it is a shame that commercials are prioritized over our local forecasts, but at the same time I prefer no LF's over that half-baked squeezeback. I also second this post:

If TWC just switches to instrumentals during storms and times of higher ratings, that tells me that they are embarrassed of the vocals and know it's unprofessional. Just stick with one choice so you don't need to alter the playlists. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on October 31, 2012, 10:17:23 AM
If TWC just switches to instrumentals during storms and times of higher ratings, that tells me that they are embarrassed of the vocals and know it's unprofessional. Just stick with one choice so you don't need to alter the playlists. Just my opinion.
I agree. They should just stick with a more professional type of music [instrumental].
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 31, 2012, 08:13:00 PM
As of 5PM PT the LDL is back in normal mode (i.e. no Sandy mini-radar.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 01, 2012, 02:54:10 PM
I did hear "Montana Girl" and that Yvonne Ayers song from June last night.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 01, 2012, 03:53:58 PM
Hi Alex,
 
The instrumental playlist is for severe weather, and it will end after Sandy coverage dies down.
 
I appreciate it,
Melissa
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 01, 2012, 08:10:03 PM
Do you guys know if they were using 2 minute locals on the :28 and :58 LFs this morning?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on November 01, 2012, 08:14:10 PM
Hi Alex,
 
The instrumental playlist is for severe weather, and it will end after Sandy coverage dies down.
 
I appreciate it,
Melissa

I can't handle the vocal music, it turns my stomach upside down every time I hear it
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 01, 2012, 09:17:23 PM

I can't handle the vocal music, it turns my stomach upside down every time I hear it

Same here.

Don't ya just miss all of the good times when the LF music was all instrumentals? Even though I've grown to accept the vocal music on TWC, I'm still a little disappointed that they are now using vocal music in their playlists  :(  The only thing I can do now is just listen to Weatherscan music on my computer or watch my DVD recordings of classic TWC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on November 02, 2012, 07:33:23 PM
Hi Alex,
 
The instrumental playlist is for severe weather, and it will end after Sandy coverage dies down.
 
I appreciate it,
Melissa

I can't handle the vocal music, it turns my stomach upside down every time I hear it
Amen to that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Patricius Maximus on November 02, 2012, 09:18:26 PM

The instrumental playlist is for severe weather, and it will end after Sandy coverage dies down.


 :rolleyes:


I can't handle the vocal music, it turns my stomach upside down every time I hear it

Same here.

Don't ya just miss all of the good times when the LF music was all instrumentals? Even though I've grown to accept the vocal music on TWC, I'm still a little disappointed that they are now using vocal music in their playlists  :( 

Me too. Instrumentals alone won't cut it for me - I need good instrumentals. Preferably from a variety of genres, including smooth jazz (City Streets in March 2010 was great). The better playlists from 2009 to 2011 conform to my standard. When there's a good playlist on, listening to local forecasts is actually a pleasure, but now actually deriving pleasure from seeing a LF is a foreign experience, with the exception of a few songs from the Sandy coverage. I only record LF's now if I have a particular desire to document the weather forecast, and even then I have an extreme aversion to recording any of the vocal songs - I always keep the LF with the least vocals.

Of course, any instrumental playlist is better than what they have now, but what sort of standard is that? That's like using toxic waste dumps as the baseline to measure the quality of all landfills (I know, horrible metaphor, but it gets the point across).

To give an idea of how we're in a severe depression when it comes to playlist quality, for the entirety of this year to date there have only been two new songs that I've loved - Matthew Shuman's Running out of Time, and Jeff Pearce's deluge. That's it. The previous norm was at least 10 per year (including songs that were reused but not recently (<1 year)).

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The only thing I can do now is just listen to Weatherscan music on my computer or watch my DVD recordings of classic TWC.

There's another option. Sometimes I like to look at TWC locals on mute with some better (perhaps jazzy) music playing on my computer, and I imagine what it would be like if TWC used my playlists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 02, 2012, 09:25:54 PM

The instrumental playlist is for severe weather, and it will end after Sandy coverage dies down.


 :rolleyes:

She doesn't realize saying that is just going to run LFs into the ground.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 04, 2012, 11:05:44 AM
Quick question for everybody here: Was anyone's IntelliSTAR and/or Weatherscan affected by this morning's DST switch?  :unsure:  Usually these units glitch during each DST switch but earlier this morning it didn't seem to affect the STAR units at all   :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 04, 2012, 11:15:50 AM
Quick question for everybody here: Was anyone's IntelliSTAR and/or Weatherscan affected by this morning's DST switch?  :unsure:  Usually these units glitch during each DST switch but earlier this morning it didn't seem to affect the STAR units at all   :huh:
If TWC was live at both 1 AM EDT and 1 AM EST, then there was probably no effect. Two years ago, they were live at 1 AM EDT but had longform at 1 AM EST and at 1 AM EST, IntelliStars nationwide were cuing on the '8s as if it was live programming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 04, 2012, 11:21:32 AM
Quick question for everybody here: Was anyone's IntelliSTAR and/or Weatherscan affected by this morning's DST switch?  :unsure:  Usually these units glitch during each DST switch but earlier this morning it didn't seem to affect the STAR units at all   :huh:
If TWC was live at both 1 AM EDT and 1 AM EST, then there was probably no effect. Two years ago, they were live at 1 AM EDT but had longform at 1 AM EST and at 1 AM EST, IntelliStars nationwide were cuing on the '8s as if it was live programming.

Ah, I get it now  :yes:

I remember last year the IntelliSTAR didn't cue at all during the 1AM EDT hour, then the programming LDL cued and remained stuck throughout the 1AM EST hour, with the IS itself cuing either late or early.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on November 04, 2012, 03:14:49 PM
Gosh, I am loving this music TWC is playing right now, especially that song by Day Behavior (that's what SoundHound told me it was, anyway). I actually think this music sounds cooler than jazz--or is at least as good. I think TWC would be very sound with LF music if they kept the taste they showcase in times of inclement weather. Heck, it seems easier to keep it one way all the time, anyway. It's too bad TWC doesn't feel the same way about the matter.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on November 07, 2012, 06:37:52 PM
The word phrase "Snowfall around one inch" is narrated as "About one inch of snow expected", like the word phrase shown on the IntelliStar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Nathan - a.k.a. NWRGeek on November 10, 2012, 10:58:50 AM
Quick question for everybody here: Was anyone's IntelliSTAR and/or Weatherscan affected by this morning's DST switch?  :unsure:  Usually these units glitch during each DST switch but earlier this morning it didn't seem to affect the STAR units at all   :huh:
My Weatherscan did. I got lucky - I actually DVR'd mine for the DST switch and it COMPLETELY rebooted. I feel lucky to have gotten it, we had DirecTV installed the next day! This post will be edited soon to include said video, once YouTube's glitches are done with.

Two years ago, they were live at 1 AM EDT but had longform at 1 AM EST and at 1 AM EST, IntelliStars nationwide were cuing on the '8s as if it was live programming.
LOL!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 10, 2012, 09:19:49 PM
High Wind Watch in effect "near beaches and headlands" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei_sx52-1_s#)

Anyone here seen the phrase "near beaches and headlands" on the weather bulletin product before?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on November 12, 2012, 07:05:00 AM
Notice, no 90-second forecast or 2-minute Local Forecast due to program changes by The Weather Channel today. After the live segment, 1-minute local forecast is played just before the commercial breaks. Normally the local on the 8s shown at 8s of every hour after commercials.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on November 12, 2012, 07:57:41 AM
Notice, no 90-second forecast or 2-minute Local Forecast due to program changes by The Weather Channel today. After the live segment, 1-minute local forecast is played just before the commercial breaks. Normally the local on the 8s shown at 8s of every hour after commercials.

Gross. Another stupid idea, hate to say. Wrong direction again.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on November 12, 2012, 08:41:32 AM
I saw/heard a very interesting phrase on the text based forecast this morning..."Any remaining showers and thunderstorms will diminish as the day progresses".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 12, 2012, 10:28:27 AM
I guess 2 minute locals are no more
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 12, 2012, 10:33:59 AM
RIP 2-minute flavors  :cry:

I wonder why TWC decided to eliminate those flavors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on November 12, 2012, 11:36:45 AM
I guess 2 minute locals are no more

Yeah. Just the 1-minute local and the 90-second locals.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 12, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
I guess 2 minute locals are no more

Yeah. Just the 1-minute local and the 90-second locals.
But why? I thought the 2 minute locals weren't going anywhere in the morning. I don't see a need to shorten the LFs with the new programming change unless they're that desperate for extra ads
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on November 12, 2012, 05:29:58 PM
Weather Center Live is not using the LDL Squeeze back LOT8s on the 5pm show.
Under the old WCL schedule the LDL Squeeze back was used at :8 and :38 minuets after the hour.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 13, 2012, 07:10:04 PM
i'll see if i can get a reply tomorrow regarding the 2 mins.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 13, 2012, 10:26:49 PM
i'll see if i can get a reply tomorrow regarding the 2 mins.
let us know plz
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 14, 2012, 11:53:51 AM
I got a reply from Melissa but since I have no access to TWC I can't confirm: 2 minute locals still on mornings from 6 am to 11 am. After 2 pm, they are shortened to 1 minute. Not sure if the :28/:58 locals during primetime and overnight count either I assume it's not
etime 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on November 14, 2012, 02:52:47 PM
I've been seeing a lot of D, E, K, and O flavors, just no M's.. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on November 15, 2012, 08:54:17 AM
I've been seeing a lot of D, E, K, and O flavors, just no M's.. Hope that helps.
They really need to bring back the I and N flavors. :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 15, 2012, 08:51:53 PM
spoke with bfarmer of TWC and got this reply

Quote
As of now, 2 minute lot8s is eliminated.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: BritishAutophone on November 15, 2012, 09:25:35 PM
I saw/heard a very interesting phrase on the text based forecast this morning..."Any remaining showers and thunderstorms will diminish as the day progresses".

I heard that phrase once several years ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 15, 2012, 09:25:43 PM
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As of now, 2 minute lot8s is eliminated.

Goodbye, 2 minute LF flavors  :cry: :cry3:

I sure hope TWC will bring them back someday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: BritishAutophone on November 15, 2012, 09:28:35 PM
That is probably why I don't watch the weather channel anymore...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 18, 2012, 03:38:13 PM
Did anyone see if they are still using the 2 min segment on the 4:28 LF Sat and sunday morning?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on November 20, 2012, 05:58:42 AM
If you watch "Local on the 8s" on the IntelliStar, you notice "weather.com" didn't display underneath the logo (even when the ad-crawl overlap) on the blue LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 20, 2012, 12:32:54 PM
Here are snapshots I took of the IntelliSTAR and the LDL without the "weather.com" text.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 20, 2012, 12:38:01 PM
What the heck, why are they removing the weather.com branding all of a sudden? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on November 20, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
For those who have one, did they remove the weather.con text on the IS2 as well?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on November 20, 2012, 02:23:55 PM
What the heck, why are they removing the weather.com branding all of a sudden? :huh:

Somehow, to me, it just looks more professional without it.  Also, on the HD feed, it was always getting cut-off (on my TV, anyway).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 20, 2012, 02:35:32 PM
What the heck, why are they removing the weather.com branding all of a sudden? :huh:

Somehow, to me, it just looks more professional without it.  Also, on the HD feed, it was always getting cut-off (on my TV, anyway).
Aw come on, it looks so bare without it on the screen! :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on November 20, 2012, 03:29:29 PM
A bit of speculation here: TWC removed the "weather.com" text from the LDLs because of burn-in concerns on certain displays. The "weather.com" text was one of the few static parts of the LDL (aside from the TWC logo which they'll never remove). Now that weather.com is removed from the LDL, TWC can feel a bit safer about leaving the LDL up for the entire duration of long-from programming without damaging viewer's TVs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 21, 2012, 11:40:49 AM
Somehow, to me, it just looks more professional without it.

I really like the new look, plus the shine under the logo and the weather.com text on the IntelliStar locals didn't really look good anyway.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 23, 2012, 09:59:50 AM
The "|HD|" part of the HD LF's logo is no more. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 25, 2012, 11:17:18 PM
Why are they using the morning playlist from
4 am? :huh: the overnight playlist currently only plays from 1 to 2 am :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on November 26, 2012, 05:48:14 AM
What the heck, why are they removing the weather.com branding all of a sudden? :huh:
Seems very odd!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on November 26, 2012, 06:28:17 PM
What the heck, why are they removing the weather.com branding all of a sudden? :huh:
Seems very odd!

Maybe NBC might rename or rebrand The Weather Channel and it's website.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 26, 2012, 06:38:52 PM
What the heck, why are they removing the weather.com branding all of a sudden? :huh:
Seems very odd!

Maybe NBC might rename or rebrand The Weather Channel and it's website.
:facepalm: NBC has nothing to do with decisions like that.. those are all done by TWC themselves
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: texasstooge on November 26, 2012, 08:49:29 PM
What the heck, why are they removing the weather.com branding all of a sudden? :huh:
Seems very odd!

Maybe NBC might rename or rebrand The Weather Channel and it's website.
:facepalm: NBC has nothing to do with decisions like that.. those are all done by TWC themselves

I've noticed it as well. Could be a technical glitch on their part.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on November 27, 2012, 04:47:39 PM
TWCCompanies was renamed as ''The Weather Company" saying that their products (on air, online, mobile) are all separated now. That would be my only reasoning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 04, 2012, 02:47:33 PM
Somebody questioned about the recent elimination of the 2-minute LF flavors on one of my recent YouTube videos, apparently in a pissed-off mood:

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Can't those sons of bitches at least put the :58 LFs back to 2 minutes, so people can see their marine/tides and the daypart forecast?

This was probably answered already, but was there a reason behind the elimination of the 2-minute LF flavors?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 04, 2012, 03:02:31 PM
Somebody questioned about the recent elimination of the 2-minute LF flavors on one of my recent YouTube videos, apparently in a pissed-off mood:

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Can't those sons of bitches at least put the :58 LFs back to 2 minutes, so people can see their marine/tides and the daypart forecast?

This was probably answered already, but was there a reason behind the elimination of the 2-minute LF flavors?  :dunno:
More time for commercials (they're in need of extra ad revenue)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on December 04, 2012, 03:44:11 PM
More ads=more irritation.

I'd cut back more live programming before I cut out time in the LF. While TWC hates to believe it, most people watch for the LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 12, 2012, 10:07:31 PM
Has the Tides screen been completely removed from the IntelliStar lineups? All I see nowadays on 24629 (on both 1:00's and 1:30's) is the Marine Forecast :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 12, 2012, 10:27:29 PM
Has the Tides screen been completely removed from the IntelliStar lineups? All I see nowadays on 24629 (on both 1:00's and 1:30's) is the Marine Forecast :unsure:

The 2-minute LFs still air at 4:28AM ET on Saturday and Sunday mornings, so the tides product is still around.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 12, 2012, 10:56:23 PM
Has the Tides screen been completely removed from the IntelliStar lineups? All I see nowadays on 24629 (on both 1:00's and 1:30's) is the Marine Forecast :unsure:

The 2-minute LFs still air at 4:28AM ET on Saturday and Sunday mornings, so the tides product is still around.
That doesnt explain why they cant just move the product around though.. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 12, 2012, 11:04:35 PM
Air quality also doesn't show on the shorter LFs. They really should consider modifying the product playlists.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 17, 2012, 12:08:47 AM
Is it true that the overnight playlist only runs from 1-2am now? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 17, 2012, 12:20:31 AM
Yes Mike where have you been :P I think it's a fluke though one of you should contact twc about this. The morning list starts at 4am now too but the other daypart times are unchanged :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 17, 2012, 05:03:10 AM
The morning list starts at 4am now too but the other daypart times are unchanged :huh:
It does? :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 17, 2012, 11:23:53 AM
Yes Mike where have you been :P I think it's a fluke though one of you should contact twc about this. The morning list starts at 4am now too but the other daypart times are unchanged :huh:
Even on weekends? During the week I understand with the new morning show format.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 17, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
Yeah. The overnight playlist stops when FO starts at 4 and all I hear then is the vocals from morning
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on December 21, 2012, 04:17:30 PM
The LDL is in holiday mode,  on during taped programming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 21, 2012, 07:41:03 PM
I noticed a new IS corner bug for "Deadliest Space Weather" at the 7:38pm ET LF just now, and it's the animated one on the DirecTV IntelliStar... :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 22, 2012, 10:59:20 AM
A new ID screen premiered today, and it's using the same music from last year's Winter ID screens. It's stock footage of snow-covered grounds with a person running across it at the top (you can only see the feet of the person)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 25, 2012, 02:32:30 PM
Apologize the double post, but...

Was that a 2:00 flavor at 2:28pm ET??!?!?!  :blink: The 6-regional maps aired alongside the 5-day forecast slides on the HD LF!!  :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 25, 2012, 02:40:11 PM
Yes it was...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on December 25, 2012, 02:41:09 PM
I noticed that, too. The music clip wasn't even long enough for the LF
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 25, 2012, 02:51:19 PM
Apologize the double post, but...

Was that a 2:00 flavor at 2:28pm ET??!?!?!  :blink: The 6-regional maps aired alongside the 5-day forecast slides on the HD LF!!  :o

were you able to record it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 25, 2012, 02:51:42 PM
Apologize the double post, but...

Was that a 2:00 flavor at 2:28pm ET??!?!?!  :blink: The 6-regional maps aired alongside the 5-day forecast slides on the HD LF!!  :o

were you able to record it?
No I wasnt but I will record at :58 :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on December 25, 2012, 03:02:06 PM
Apologize the double post, but...

Was that a 2:00 flavor at 2:28pm ET??!?!?!  :blink: The 6-regional maps aired alongside the 5-day forecast slides on the HD LF!!  :o

were you able to record it?
No I wasnt but I will record at :58 :yes:
I caught the one at :58 as well. And for some reason, the blizzard warning that we are under is not showing on the bulletins page  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 25, 2012, 03:12:29 PM
I saw it too but didn't record it. I think the 2 mins are only for this time due to extended coverage. The :08 and :38 lfs on primetime were also 2 mins long last year when they preempted longform to cover the late April tornado outbreak
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 25, 2012, 03:18:22 PM
Here's 2:58pm ET.. I haven't seen the Regional Forecast/Getaway Forecast slides on the DirecTV LF in forever! :)

DirecTV HD Local Forecast - 2 Minute Flavor - December 25, 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=023c9PlFQOA#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on December 25, 2012, 03:18:46 PM
I saw it too but didn't record it. I think the 2 mins are only for this time due to extended coverage. The :08 and :38 lfs on primetime were also 2 mins long last year when they preempted longform to cover the late April tornado outbreak
You are probably right, it's probably just a temporary change.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on December 25, 2012, 03:20:18 PM
Here's 2:58pm ET.. I haven't seen the Regional Forecast/Getaway Forecast slides on the DirecTV LF in forever! :)

DirecTV HD Local Forecast - 2 Minute Flavor - December 25, 2012 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=023c9PlFQOA#ws[/url])

Today was the first time I have seen the Almanac on the XL since.... well, I cannot remember the last time I saw it! :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 25, 2012, 03:25:42 PM
Here's 2:58pm ET.. I haven't seen the Regional Forecast/Getaway Forecast slides on the DirecTV LF in forever! :)

DirecTV HD Local Forecast - 2 Minute Flavor - December 25, 2012 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=023c9PlFQOA#ws[/url])

you can always watch the 4:28am LF on the weekends :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 25, 2012, 03:28:58 PM
A K flavor at :28 Well that was fast :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 25, 2012, 03:31:11 PM
A K flavor at :28 Well that was fast :P
Did you record it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 25, 2012, 03:32:26 PM
A K flavor at :28 Well that was fast :P
Did you record it?
yes
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 25, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
Yeah, that didn't last long.. 1:00 flavor at 3:38pm ET <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 25, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Yeah, that didn't last long.. 1:00 flavor at 3:38pm ET <_<
Were they playing the 90 second flavors at the other times during the 2 pm hour?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 25, 2012, 03:50:32 PM
Yeah, that didn't last long.. 1:00 flavor at 3:38pm ET <_<
Were they playing the 90 second flavors at the other times during the 2 pm hour?
Yep.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on December 26, 2012, 12:29:55 AM
I just heard Treka EML by David Banks  from the regular December list on the 11:28PM CT LF. They didn't waste any time switching back
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 26, 2012, 12:47:47 AM
Strange. Before I went to bed they were playing wizards in winter at the :58 lf
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 26, 2012, 11:53:54 AM
According to IntelliStar2 from YouTube, there was a new emergency feed that appeared back on Monday at 4:18PM ET/1:18PM PT  :unsure:  but I never saw it. Just wondering if anybody here has seen the new EF at all yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 26, 2012, 12:40:54 PM
According to IntelliStar2 from YouTube, there was a new emergency feed that appeared back on Monday at 4:18PM ET/1:18PM PT  :unsure:  but I never saw it. Just wondering if anybody here has seen the new EF at all yet.

I saw it, but it wasn't around that time, it was in the morning. Jen Carfagno was having mic problems and it popped up. It was the same graphics they use on the weekly planner/7 day outlook now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 26, 2012, 01:59:11 PM
A new ID screen premiered today, and it's using the same music from last year's Winter ID screens. It's stock footage of snow-covered grounds with a person running across it at the top (you can only see the feet of the person)

Another new one was shown today of a skier riding down a mountainous slope.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 26, 2012, 02:10:49 PM
2 min Lfs will run at :28 and :58 this hour get yer tuners ready....
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 26, 2012, 03:40:52 PM
Caught both the SD and HD LFs at :28 and :58, but both have vocal music  :itsok:  Is TWC planning to bring back the 2-minute LFs for real in the near future, or is this just a temporary thing?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on December 26, 2012, 04:40:33 PM
I hope so. All recent changes have involved less weather coverage. I'm too lazy to check my phone for weather, haha. Ad time is really frustrating.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on December 26, 2012, 09:50:16 PM
Caught both the SD and HD LFs at :28 and :58, but both have vocal music  :itsok:  Is TWC planning to bring back the 2-minute LFs for real in the near future, or is this just a temporary thing?
Probably just temporary.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 28, 2012, 10:17:28 AM
12-24-12 Wheaton, MN - TWC (Flurries) 12:19 am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1F9D7sb4JA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on December 29, 2012, 02:07:21 PM
Does the morning playlist start at 4am ET on weekends too?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 29, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
Does the morning playlist start at 4am ET on weekends too?
yes, the change was made to fit in with the morning lineup according to melissa.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 29, 2012, 10:07:03 PM
Southern New England Snow 12/29/12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZNiPF4ic8k#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on December 29, 2012, 11:41:34 PM
As much as I dislike living in Florida, I certainly do not miss that kind of weather!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on January 02, 2013, 04:02:02 PM
The holidays are over and TWC still has the LDL on during taped programming in storm colors with airport delays.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 02, 2013, 04:03:52 PM
The holidays are over and TWC still has the LDL on during taped programming in storm colors with airport delays.
That has nothing to do with the LF though :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on January 02, 2013, 04:17:31 PM
It sort of does as the LDL is giving local information which we usually don't get when they turn it off during taped programming.
I thought the General LF thread was also for the LDL or is there a better place to post?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 02, 2013, 04:43:57 PM
General LF Discussion is solely about Local on the 8s, not programming. The LDL is outside of the LF. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 03, 2013, 07:55:10 PM
Update on the 2 minute situation
Quote
Currently, there are no plans to bring back the 2-minute local. The locals are re-looked at each quarter so the times may eventually change again.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 04, 2013, 11:40:53 AM
It's amazing (and sad) that the #1 selling point for The Weather Channel back in the day has now been marginalized to barely existing at all.  I remember when 3+ minute local forecasts were common and, at certain times of the day, would be shown more often than 6 times per hour.

Now, you blink and you miss it.

The local forecast is really all that keeps me tuning into TWC right now.  The live weather programming outside of a weather emergency focuses so little on the actual weather.  It's a lot of talking, a lot of hype, tabloid-style reporting (especially during "Wake Up With Al"), and more discussion about social media and interactivity through the internet than I care to hear about.

Even the larger LDLs would have been able to provide more weather information on a constant basis, but those have been thoroughly discarded by now (though, thanks to a glitch or two, I know they're still programmed into the Stars).  Instead, most of the actual local weather information viewers can see is on the tiny LDL throughout the day.  (Granted, the Intellistar 2 provides more information in the LDL than the Intellistar, but non-Intellistar viewers get no local information, unless they're lucky enough to live in a major city, in which case you get current conditions and a 2-day forecast if you can manage to wait for the list to cycle through.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 11, 2013, 06:41:53 PM
I contacted Melissa several times about this to no avail. I really wish this song's name could be found!
October/November 2012 Playlist 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 18, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
Guess what today is:
Guess what today is? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt0br8jIXNU#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 18, 2013, 03:31:43 PM
Guess what today is:
Guess what today is? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt0br8jIXNU#ws[/url])
One year since the SOPA/PIPA blackout :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 18, 2013, 03:39:16 PM
Guess what today is:
Guess what today is? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt0br8jIXNU#ws[/url])
One year since the SOPA/PIPA blackout :P

lol xD
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Pop Light Brown on January 19, 2013, 02:32:32 PM
It's amazing (and sad) that the #1 selling point for The Weather Channel back in the day has now been marginalized to barely existing at all.  I remember when 3+ minute local forecasts were common and, at certain times of the day, would be shown more often than 6 times per hour.

Now, you blink and you miss it.

The local forecast is really all that keeps me tuning into TWC right now.  The live weather programming outside of a weather emergency focuses so little on the actual weather.  It's a lot of talking, a lot of hype, tabloid-style reporting (especially during "Wake Up With Al"), and more discussion about social media and interactivity through the internet than I care to hear about.

Even the larger LDLs would have been able to provide more weather information on a constant basis, but those have been thoroughly discarded by now (though, thanks to a glitch or two, I know they're still programmed into the Stars).  Instead, most of the actual local weather information viewers can see is on the tiny LDL throughout the day.  (Granted, the Intellistar 2 provides more information in the LDL than the Intellistar, but non-Intellistar viewers get no local information, unless they're lucky enough to live in a major city, in which case you get current conditions and a 2-day forecast if you can manage to wait for the list to cycle through.)

I agree with this guy 100 percent.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on January 19, 2013, 05:09:03 PM
Has anyone else ever recorded an Ice Storm Warning on the bulletin screen? If not, I'm the first B)

TWC - Memphis Intellistar - Ice Storm Warning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owjsrJAsyVo#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on January 20, 2013, 10:36:25 PM
Getting glitches on the national HD local forecast radar maps.
TWCHD 20130120 22:28 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w65ToC1Zh9U#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 20, 2013, 10:46:58 PM
Getting glitches on the national HD local forecast radar maps.
TWCHD 20130120 22:28 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w65ToC1Zh9U#ws[/url])
That's a new one! :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lightning on January 20, 2013, 11:09:42 PM
I saw it too but didn't record it. I think the 2 mins are only for this time due to extended coverage. The :08 and :38 lfs on primetime were also 2 mins long last year when they preempted longform to cover the late April tornado outbreak
They needed to cover that April 25-28, 2011 tornado outbreak. There were multiple long-tracked violent tornadoes (EF4 and EF5) on the ground, obliterating buildings and killing people.

I wish they would do 2 minute local forecasts, again.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 20, 2013, 11:45:18 PM
I wish they would do 2 minute local forecasts, again.

Me too.

IMO 60 or 90 seconds just isn't enough time for a local forecast  :no:  If only TWC listened to the begs and cries from their audience, but I doubt that'll ever happen  :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 20, 2013, 11:51:03 PM
According to someone on taiganet, 2 mins are supposed to return next Monday. We shall wait n see...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 21, 2013, 06:22:00 AM
I wish they would do 2 minute local forecasts, again.

Me too.

IMO 60 or 90 seconds just isn't enough time for a local forecast  :no:  If only TWC listened to the begs and cries from their audience, but I doubt that'll ever happen  :(

Apparently, the weather forecast-loving audience is the population that The Weather Channel is not interested in hearing from anymore.  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on January 21, 2013, 07:34:00 AM
I'd love the Taiganet rumor to be true. I don't even care about the music, I just want to get the detailed forecast I was able to depend on seeing on this channel. Ads before and after a 60 second LF infuriate me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on January 21, 2013, 09:09:04 AM
Could it be true, that they are actually listening for once? We'll have to wait and see. I sure hope so.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on January 21, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Hopefully TWC does in fact get up off their knees and bring back the 2 minute flavors. Now, if only they get rid of the crappy background noise on the LOT8's and replace it with traditional (pre 2012) local forecast music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 21, 2013, 11:53:43 AM
I agree Matthew
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on January 21, 2013, 07:27:20 PM
I had been a fan of TWC (and weather in general) since 2003, but I hadn't really watched the channel in a while except for severe weather coverage.  Upon turning it on once again last week, I realized immediately that the LF was shorter than it used to be.  Of course, the LF song was a vocal one which I had never heard on LOT8's before, but it didn't bother me as much as the reduced duration did.  I'll be watching closely for any change to the 60-second forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 21, 2013, 07:56:20 PM
Freezing Rain & Sleet on 7 Day
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 22, 2013, 11:10:58 AM
It's a forecast like that that makes me glad I moved to Florida.  Nothing else makes me glad, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 22, 2013, 12:47:31 PM
I would love to see some weather like that (except the freezing rain/sleet). It's been exactly a decade (Jan '03) since we had single digit lows here too so I wouldn't mind seeing that either if it means shattering some record lows.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on January 22, 2013, 01:39:34 PM
Hey, I'll take it!  I practically never see record lows, but I do see about 5 - 10 record highs tied or broken every single year.

It's been exactly a decade (Jan '03) since we had single digit lows

This is one of many reasons I liked '03.  While we didn't really get many single digit lows, we had plenty of cold weather nonetheless.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 22, 2013, 07:18:52 PM
Found the Song ID of the unknown October 2009 Song

On The Boardwalk - Baxter Poe

New Bedford IStar - October 16th 2009 LF Music Error (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taLJ6dWUi-4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCCraig on January 22, 2013, 08:09:32 PM
"Potential for significant snowfall Friday" red box. Also includes cold narration.

Local on the 8's: 1-22-12 12:58PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zOeYlcDqZY#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 23, 2013, 10:49:03 AM
October 2009 Daytime Clip with the Traffic Express K Flavor at 4:04

New Bedford IntelliStar - October 2009 Daytime (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFbj-8-mRVQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on January 28, 2013, 06:58:31 AM
Is traffic still displayed on the LF? I don't remember them stopping, but logically speaking, they can't fit traffic info that one-minute LF and display adequate weather information.

Just watched WUWA. So far no two-minute LF. :hmm: (They were rumored to return today.) Instead, I'm seeing commercials/ads last about 4 minutes and 3 minutes of weather coverage..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 28, 2013, 07:17:33 AM
TWC's contract with Traffic Pulse ran out quite some time ago.  I don't remember exactly when, but it's been a couple of years that there have been no traffic reports on the local forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 28, 2013, 02:05:45 PM
Local forecast update must be delayed due to the extended coverage for winter storm luna. Hopefully the 2 minute locals will return tomorrow at 11:08am ET.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 28, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
Local forecast update must be delayed due to the extended coverage for winter storm luna. Hopefully the 2 minute locals will return tomorrow at 11:08am ET.
I can assure you that it was a false rumor. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 28, 2013, 04:31:44 PM
Winter Storm Luna could be the reason for the delay, but I believe it is a false rumor myself especially if it was from someone who supposedly left TWC :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 28, 2013, 05:31:58 PM
The Taiganet rumor was probably just a false one, but I could be wrong. We'll just have to keep an eye out for any changes to the flavor lineups in the coming days  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 28, 2013, 06:01:21 PM
I think the Taiganet post was absolutely false. After all, the member who posted it was none other than our little friend obsessed with "witchoowa" :rolleyes: (and y'all know exactly who I am talking about)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 28, 2013, 06:41:00 PM
I think the Taiganet post was absolutely false.

I wouldn't call this false yet, Swindam still works at TWC as far i can tell and he is usually active in the Feedback Forums.

We'll see if the 2 minute locals do indeed come back tomorrow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on January 28, 2013, 07:11:20 PM
I think the Taiganet post was absolutely false. After all, the member who posted it was none other than our little friend obsessed with "witchoowa" :rolleyes: (and y'all know exactly who I am talking about)
What's the "witchoowa"?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 28, 2013, 07:28:05 PM
I think the Taiganet post was absolutely false. After all, the member who posted it was none other than our little friend obsessed with "witchoowa" :rolleyes: (and y'all know exactly who I am talking about)
What's the "witchoowa"?
There was a member who kept pestering people over and over again about a certain song. He was also responsible for other ill events towards members aka "Jimmy Ruska", "TWCMax", "Intellistar2" and other names.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 28, 2013, 07:33:28 PM
I think the Taiganet post was absolutely false.

I wouldn't call this false yet, Swindam still works at TWC as far i can tell and he is usually active in the Feedback Forums.

We'll see if the 2 minute locals do indeed come back tomorrow.
Yeah, but then again, the user who obtained the news is known for spreading rumors <_< I have my doubts but you're right Alex, let's just wait and see :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on January 28, 2013, 09:00:05 PM
I think the Taiganet post was absolutely false. After all, the member who posted it was none other than our little friend obsessed with "witchoowa" :rolleyes: (and y'all know exactly who I am talking about)
What's the "witchoowa"?
There was a member who kept pestering people over and over again about a certain song. He was also responsible for other ill events towards members aka "Jimmy Ruska", "TWCMax", "Intellistar2" and other names.
Did anyone ever figure out what song he was talking about that went "witchoowa"? LOL! :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 29, 2013, 10:54:03 AM
Are the LFs still the same?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 29, 2013, 11:30:02 AM
:28/58 - K Flavor
:08/38 - 1 Minute
:18/48 - 1 Minute

a couple 2 Min flavors did air at 12:58pm and 1:58pm ET but haven't appeared since TWC started Extended Coverage at 2pm.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 29, 2013, 05:04:12 PM
I briefly went downstairs to check TWC and saw a 2 minute LF playing at 1:58 :thrilled:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 29, 2013, 05:19:21 PM
I briefly went downstairs to check TWC and saw a 2 minute LF playing at 1:58 :thrilled:

Hopefully they do return in full but let's wait and see since Severe Weather is Forecasted tomorrow, which means Extended Coverage would continue.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 29, 2013, 05:27:51 PM
I briefly went downstairs to check TWC and saw a 2 minute LF playing at 1:58 :thrilled:

Hopefully they do return in full but let's wait and see since Severe Weather is Forecasted tomorrow, which means Extended Coverage would continue.
Yeah, but they also brought back 2 min lFs last month during the Christmas storm tornado outbreak even though it was just for the 2pm hour
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 29, 2013, 08:44:31 PM
Maybe I'm just too old-fashioned, but a "full" local forecast for me is three minutes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on January 29, 2013, 09:57:49 PM
Maybe I'm just too old-fashioned, but a "full" local forecast for me is three minutes.

Now let's not get greedy.  :P

Two minutes would be good enough for me to watch it more often, and also respect TWC for a change instead of criticizing the network. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they do return.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on January 29, 2013, 11:01:30 PM
Maybe I'm just too old-fashioned, but a "full" local forecast for me is three minutes.

Now let's not get greedy.  :P

Two minutes would be good enough for me to watch it more often, and also respect TWC for a change instead of criticizing the network. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they do return.
If only those five or six minute overnight LFs would return.  :rofl:  I've always liked the idea of a long overnight LF like how it was between 1987-91.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on January 29, 2013, 11:46:54 PM
I wouldn't mind a 5 or 6-minute local forecast... if there were more products available.  Back then, they just ran the same flavor twice.  Trust me, seeing the "Travel Cities Forecast" play twice in just a few minutes gets a little mind-numbing.  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on January 30, 2013, 09:21:33 AM
I saw a 2-minute LF at 10:28 pm ET last night.  It was the first time I had ever seen the daypart forecast on satellite.  I just hope it wasn't only because of the severe weather outbreak going on yesterday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 30, 2013, 12:18:25 PM
Hopefully they added the 2 minute locals to the Weekend Schedule.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on January 30, 2013, 03:48:15 PM
I saw a 2-minute LF at 10:28 pm ET last night.  It was the first time I had ever seen the daypart forecast on satellite.  I just hope it wasn't only because of the severe weather outbreak going on yesterday.
They dont air the daypart forecast on the satellite lf unless u mean the DirecTV LF but even then the daypart forecast airs on 90sec flavors
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on January 30, 2013, 04:32:10 PM
With the 24 + hour live storm coverage and the storms being severe it might be time to switch to instrumental music.
Just my opinion, the pop and rock songs just don't fit with the coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 30, 2013, 07:54:28 PM
With the 24 + hour live storm coverage and the storms being severe it might be time to switch to instrumental music.
Just my opinion, the pop and rock songs just don't fit with the coverage.

With all this severe weather going on would it seem the extended coverage might continue until Saturday?

and i wish they would put the Emergency Playlist on instead of the same bland vocals since December.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 30, 2013, 08:37:15 PM
With the 24 + hour live storm coverage and the storms being severe it might be time to switch to instrumental music.
Just my opinion, the pop and rock songs just don't fit with the coverage.

With all this severe weather going on would it seem the extended coverage might continue until Saturday?

and i wish they would put the Emergency Playlist on instead of the same bland vocals since December.

Same here.

IMO TWC should have just switched to all instrumentals during the coverage of the severe weather, like they did with Isaac and Sandy. Vocal music, to me, is just not appropriate during coverage of potentially life-threatening weather events such as the hurricanes or the recent severe weather outbreak.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on January 30, 2013, 08:52:39 PM
Are the 2-minute LFs only on certain dayparts right now? Yesterday, I saw that the LF at 5:28 PM CT was only :90.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Ice Man on January 30, 2013, 08:54:58 PM
IMO TWC should have just switched to all instrumentals during the coverage of the severe weather, like they did with Isaac and Sandy. Vocal music, to me, is just not appropriate during coverage of potentially life-threatening weather events such as the hurricanes or the recent severe weather outbreak.

*scratches 'Rock You Like a Hurricane' off the playlist*

Same here.

IMO TWC should have just switched to all instrumentals during the coverage of the severe weather, like they did with Isaac and Sandy. Vocal music, to me, is just not appropriate during coverage of potentially life-threatening weather events such as the hurricanes or the recent severe weather outbreak.

I never cared much for the vocals anyhow. Aesthetically, it feels like scratching a chalk board when the LF speaker is talking over another voice. And whenever it's been mainstream music, something that I had already heard a million times overplayed on the radio, I just wanted to tear my hair out.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 30, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Are the 2-minute LFs only on certain dayparts right now? Yesterday, I saw that the LF at 5:28 PM CT was only :90.

So far it's been sporadic since the Extended Coverage started, it should return when the normal schedule begins.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on January 30, 2013, 09:52:22 PM
The LFs I've seen today are back to 90 seconds, even at times ending in :28 and :58, with the daypart forecast but no radar.

On the music front, I agree that instrumentals should be used for the LF, particularly during severe weather.  Now, for the record, I'm not anti-vocal music.  I listen to vocal music as well as instrumentals, but the vocals are more likely to put me to sleep.  :yawn:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 31, 2013, 12:22:53 PM
The LFs I've seen today are back to 90 seconds, even at times ending in :28 and :58, with the daypart forecast but no radar.

TWC is still doing Extended Coverage which is why the 2 Minute locals aren't showing
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 31, 2013, 11:35:12 PM
They need to change the playlist. I want to hear some new instrumentals even if its only 3 or 4 songs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 01, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
Looks like the 2 Minute Locals were only on Tuesday at 12:58pm and 1:58pm ET, the K Flavors are showing at :28/:58 and DE Flavors at :08-:18/:38-:48.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on February 01, 2013, 01:46:58 PM
I guess it wasn't meant to be.  This makes the theory that the 2-minute locals were some kind of fluke that much more believable.

Additionally, we've got the same old playlist from January (or possibly December) from what I've heard so far on the LFs.  There was a time when I looked forward to the first day of every month due to the chance to hear a new playlist, but that's gone by the wayside.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lightning on February 01, 2013, 03:47:42 PM
TWC's contract with Traffic Pulse ran out quite some time ago.  I don't remember exactly when, but it's been a couple of years that there have been no traffic reports on the local forecast.
I wondered what happened to the traffic pulse. Glad I know now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 01, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
Looks like the 2 Minute LF return was just another rumor  <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 01, 2013, 05:32:46 PM
Looks like the 2 Minute LF return was just another rumor  <_<
not surprised, that's why I didn't record anything after hearing nothing from the star team in the first place :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 02, 2013, 11:00:06 AM
i already contacted the star team on Wednesday and no reply from them or the feedback forums. i just think its funny how a rumor like this could start an uproar  :wacko:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 02, 2013, 01:19:36 PM
i already contacted the star team on Wednesday and no reply from them or the feedback forums. i just think its funny how a rumor like this could start an uproar  :wacko:
A lot of people in that department were cut and those who weren't are more busy then ever, so don't expect a speedy reply. Why do you think they haven't been on here since October? Besides whether its 1, 1:30, or 2 minutes. At least you still get your forecast. Be grateful the LOT8s is still around.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 02, 2013, 02:05:27 PM
i already contacted the star team on Wednesday and no reply from them or the feedback forums. i just think its funny how a rumor like this could start an uproar  :wacko:
A lot of people in that department were cut and those who weren't are more busy then ever, so don't expect a speedy reply. Why do you think they haven't been on here since October?

I ended up getting a speedy reply yesterday about the situation (i didn't have time to check my email since i been busy) here's the reply i got.

Quote
Currently, there are no plans to bring back the 2-minute local. The locals are re-looked at each quarter so the times may eventually change again.

Tony F
Local on the 8's Support
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 02, 2013, 06:37:43 PM
Anyone remember "Dat Hippity Hop" that freaked everyone out  2 years ago? :P
January/February 2011 Daytime 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2L-I-NDUa0#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on February 04, 2013, 01:39:39 PM
Anyone know if the playlist is getting a change songs this week?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 04, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
Anyone know if the playlist is getting a change songs this week?

I haven't gotten a reply from my TWC contact about any Playlist Change yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 07, 2013, 10:43:59 PM
Wow, talk about a double-mash up between classic and modern! :blink:

The Weather Channel, Local on the 8s Segment, Broken Bow, NE, May 25, 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG3xXgFyfKE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 07, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
Wow, talk about a double-mash up between classic and modern! :blink:

The Weather Channel, Local on the 8s Segment, Broken Bow, NE, May 25, 2008 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG3xXgFyfKE#[/url])

It's 1993 all over again.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 08, 2013, 03:42:52 PM
The playlist has gone to all instrumentals
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 08, 2013, 03:54:58 PM
The playlist has gone to all instrumentals

Sadly, it hasn't   :no:  There was a vocal song at :48.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 08, 2013, 04:10:31 PM
Really?! All I heard were instrumentals in the past hour they probably will shortly
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on February 08, 2013, 06:14:46 PM
It was probably just a lucky series of selections that happened not to include any vocals.  I've been hearing the same old playlist.

Oh, and that video is a major dose of win.  B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 09, 2013, 03:59:16 PM
Looks like Nemo ruined my area's IntelliStar *Pixelated*
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 09, 2013, 04:10:08 PM
Looks like Nemo ruined my area's IntelliStar *Pixelated*
I doubt Nemo has anything to do with that. If it was the national feed, then there'd be a different story,
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 09, 2013, 04:16:37 PM
Looks like Nemo ruined my area's IntelliStar *Pixelated*
I doubt Nemo has anything to do with that. If it was the national feed, then there'd be a different story,

What would cause this? it's been like this since power returned.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 09, 2013, 04:43:06 PM
Looks like Nemo ruined my area's IntelliStar *Pixelated*
I doubt Nemo has anything to do with that. If it was the national feed, then there'd be a different story,

What would cause this? it's been like this since power returned.
It's definitely a bandwidth problem
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 09, 2013, 04:45:55 PM
It's definitely a bandwidth problem

If it gets any worse i'll either Email Comcast Boston or Email TWC Feedback on Monday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on February 10, 2013, 11:41:14 AM
What is the name of the Ryan Farish song that kind of sounds like the Storm Alert theme?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on February 10, 2013, 12:03:18 PM
Northern Lights?

"Northern Lights" by Ryan Farish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQCtprbfEbA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2013, 12:09:55 PM
What is the name of the Ryan Farish song that kind of sounds like the Storm Alert theme?

You're going to have to be more specific, there's tons of RF songs but if you mean by this list, I would say "The Summit"
The Summit - Ryan Farish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCbd9iCR9sI#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 10, 2013, 12:11:14 PM
Northern Lights?

"Northern Lights" by Ryan Farish ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQCtprbfEbA#[/url])
I know which one he's talking about and it's not "Northern Lights" :no: I heard it yesterday as well and if I had to guess it would have to be "The Summit" by Farish
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 11, 2013, 10:25:37 AM
As of 10am this morning
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 11, 2013, 02:49:14 PM
As of 10am this morning
Is your IntelliStar offline? I notice the national LDL is on in that picture. Also, if you can, try to get a tuner capture of that if you intend to report the issue, but that's just if you can.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 11, 2013, 03:00:46 PM
As of 10am this morning
Is your IntelliStar offline? I notice the national LDL is on in that picture. Also, if you can, try to get a tuner capture of that if you intend to report the issue, but that's just if you can.
His tuner broke recently.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 11, 2013, 05:23:20 PM
I know it won't change how the Music airs on TWC but here's my attempt  :)

Posted on TWC's Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/TheWeatherChannel/posts/10151484988795921)

As of 10am this morning
Is your IntelliStar offline? I notice the national LDL is on in that picture. Also, if you can, try to get a tuner capture of that if you intend to report the issue, but that's just if you can.

I wish i could, the reason i'm trying to have this fixed is because something like this could cause a seizure.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 11, 2013, 05:28:13 PM
I wish i could, the reason i'm trying to have this fixed is because something like this could cause a seizure.
Actually, I looked at your pictures and they do seem high enough in quality.. also, now that you mentioned seizures, is your IS doing this? :thinking:

Severely messed up IntelliStar - Feb. 13, 2009 - 8:58pm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rljJLAN1rvk#)

So yeah Alex, do post a topic in tech support :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 13, 2013, 05:30:20 PM
I wish i could, the reason i'm trying to have this fixed is because something like this could cause a seizure.
Actually, I looked at your pictures and they do seem high enough in quality.. also, now that you mentioned seizures, is your IS doing this? :thinking:

Severely messed up IntelliStar - Feb. 13, 2009 - 8:58pm ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rljJLAN1rvk#[/url])

So yeah Alex, do post a topic in tech support :yes:


its not as bad as that Zach but it's more like a picture problem which makes the TV picture pixelate every half a second almost like a strobing light effect. (The error is occurring in all of the IntelliStar's Coverage area including Fall River and New Bedford.)

The issue is still ongoing - I discussed this with Local Forecast Star Support yesterday and they said after everything was fine on their end.

So now i have to email Comcast Boston and notify them of the situation because one of my friends is prone to seizure and i don't want them to get one just watching TWC.

Here's the video of the problem

Xfinity Intellistar Picture Problems #22622 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO-mc9JcBHU#)

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 16, 2013, 12:07:14 PM
TWC IntelliSTAR- Corvallis, OR- Feb. 16, 2013- 1:27AM PST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI8TDg_lkIo#)

Greetings from Corvallis, Oregon!  :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 18, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
Sorry for double-posting, but there was a 60-second flavor at :28  :o  I think WCL may be the new WUWA  :blink:  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 18, 2013, 08:10:03 PM
Sorry for double-posting, but there was a 60-second flavor at :28  :o  I think WCL may be the new WUWA  :blink:  :P
Well I'm not surprised, guess we can say the K flavors are history too :P This will no doubt mark the death of the Local on the 8s, slowly but surely.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on February 19, 2013, 09:25:08 AM
Sorry for double-posting, but there was a 60-second flavor at :28  :o  I think WCL may be the new WUWA  :blink:  :P
Well I'm not surprised, guess we can say the K flavors are history too :P This will no doubt mark the death of the Local on the 8s, slowly but surely.

Not only the K Flavors, but also the long-lived 2-minute flavors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on February 19, 2013, 10:55:38 AM
Sorry for double-posting, but there was a 60-second flavor at :28  :o  I think WCL may be the new WUWA  :blink:  :P

So wait a minute: TWC is only showing 60-second LFs now? :blink:

Whatever happened to the days when the "LOT8s was the number 1 reason why people tune in to The Weather Channel?"  Jim Cantore said that quote in a video; I think it was the one talking about the IS transition to HD.  Guess that's all gone out the window. :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 19, 2013, 11:36:50 AM
Sorry for double-posting, but there was a 60-second flavor at :28  :o  I think WCL may be the new WUWA  :blink:  :P

So wait a minute: TWC is only showing 60-second LFs now? :blink:

Whatever happened to the days when the "LOT8s was the number 1 reason why people tune in to The Weather Channel?"  Jim Cantore said that quote in a video; I think it was the one talking about the IS transition to HD.  Guess that's all gone out the window. :(

I guess we can breathe a sigh of relief, because the 90-second flavor aired at :28 during DP. I've got a feeling that will probably change in the coming weeks and/or months.

Also, I always wondered myself what happened to those days. Nowadays I bet TWC only cares about money and ratings, and that they no longer give a hoot about their viewers wanting their Local on the 8's  :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on February 19, 2013, 01:11:55 PM
If they ever go through with making LF's 60 seconds exclusively, then I will declare a shark jump.   :club:  Arguably, this has already happened between the addiction to long-form, the questionable removal of some OCM's, and the new LF music format, but I feel that 60-second LOT8's only will represent a true shark jump more than anything we've seen so far.  In a 60-second format, some segments have to be left out, or else each segment must go by faster.  Both of these outcomes lead to a less complete LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on February 19, 2013, 07:02:06 PM
I'm noticing for the 6pm hour of WCL they are using the format of Wake Up With Al and AM Rush where they go from programming to the local forecast then the commercial break. Is this going to be the standard for format for all live programming?

The last LOT8s at 6:58pm was only 60 seconds.

At 7pm they are back to airing 2min of commercials before the LOT8s.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 19, 2013, 07:09:50 PM
I'm noticing for the 6pm hour of WCL they are using the format of Wake Up With Al and AM Rush where they go from programming to the local forecast then the commercial break. Is this going to be the standard for format for all live programming?

The last LOT8s at 6:58pm was only 60 seconds.

At 7pm they are back to airing 2min of commercials before the LOT8s.

So basically the Express Locals are here to stay from "Morning Rush" to "Evening Rush"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on February 19, 2013, 07:12:20 PM
There's another format used just now where they went programming to commercials, a live preview of the next segment on WLC then to the LOT8's,  a 30 second commercial then back to programming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 22, 2013, 11:18:50 AM
Hey, it's not that bad. It means only one minutes of vocals now instead of two :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 22, 2013, 12:44:42 PM
And its a 1 minute version of seeing the cheeseball.

it would be nice to update the icons, its 2013.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 23, 2013, 01:23:03 AM
I just put a blank DVD inside my recorder and then set a timer recording for the disc at 1:28AM my time tomorrow morning. Let's just all hope TWC will leave the sole 2-minute LF alone  :P


EDIT: Just checked my recording, and it looks like TWC left the sole 2-minute flavor alone  :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 23, 2013, 07:27:21 PM
Alex, is this what your IntelliStar is doing?

A seriously messed up Intellistar February 20th,9:28 Am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_KtLOPdO0M#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 23, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
The :28 LF was a K flavor, so it looks like this is just a midweek thing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 23, 2013, 09:35:49 PM
Alex, is this what your IntelliStar is doing?

A seriously messed up Intellistar February 20th,9:28 Am ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_KtLOPdO0M#ws[/url])


nope i posted what happened when i notified Comcast here is what it was doing

Comcast told me it was a faulty piece of equipment and they fixed the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO-mc9JcBHU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO-mc9JcBHU)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on March 01, 2013, 11:33:55 AM
There was an error with the CC product at :28 (as well as the previous two LFs) where there was only the temp and the N/A icon (Allen Jackson just reads the temperature only.) I was unable to get a clip because I woke up just minutes before the :28 LF and had no time to set up my tuner  :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 02, 2013, 04:35:29 PM
Does anyone miss the 33% LDL and should it return? or do a agree with TWC for removing it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 02, 2013, 04:36:52 PM
Does anyone miss the 33% LDL and should it return? or do a agree with TWC for removing it?
I feel that takes up too much of the screen during a live segment.  I prefer a smaller LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 02, 2013, 04:40:29 PM
Does anyone miss the 33% LDL and should it return? or do a agree with TWC for removing it?
I feel that takes up too much of the screen during a live segment.  I prefer a smaller LDL.

I really liked the radar on the Large LDL, it would be awesome if the Smaller LDL had the radar on the left side instead of ad space.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 02, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
Does anyone miss the 33% LDL and should it return? or do a agree with TWC for removing it?
I feel that takes up too much of the screen during a live segment.  I prefer a smaller LDL.
I really liked the radar on the Large LDL, it would be awesome if the Smaller LDL had the radar on the left side instead of ad space.
Correction: the show title <_< :P j/k because they do sometimes have actual sponsors in the corner spot
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on March 02, 2013, 06:49:55 PM
I think I'm in the minority, but I miss the large LDL.  It contained so much more weather information, and, considering how weather information is at such a premium on TWC right now, it could be very useful.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 02, 2013, 07:42:49 PM
The big LDL would be fine during taped programming, but during live programming I think the small LDL is fine.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Stephen on March 02, 2013, 09:39:09 PM
The big LDL would be fine during taped programming, but during live programming I think the small LDL is fine.
I agree. Perhaps shrinking down the screen during the "Local on the 8s" during longform where they normally show the small LDL and show the big LDL instead would work. The current on-air graphics would not work with the big LDL anyway, plus they don't use a video wall anymore for the majority of the map segments, so I wouldn't want to see it return during live programming.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on March 02, 2013, 09:46:06 PM
TWC Local on the 8's Squeezeback- Spokane, WA- Oct. 14, 2010- 3:38PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3SiZUl4Ydk#)

I wish TWC would use this squeezeback again during long-form, which features the big LDL. Then I think they should use the smaller LDL full time during the rest of the long-form program just like they used to do, instead of cuing the small LDL at :08/:38, :28/:58, etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on March 03, 2013, 03:51:22 AM
I think I'm in the minority, but I miss the large LDL.  It contained so much more weather information, and, considering how weather information is at such a premium on TWC right now, it could be very useful.

The weather information is definitely a plus, but there's just too much going on on-screen for me personally. The lower 3rd looks too compressed, and it makes the frame really bottom-heavy, visually. Even now, with the show title, motion-layered (and icky) red lower 3rd, and rather poor-looking LDL at the bottom of the screen, it looks cluttered. There's no graphical unity. Shame they didn't take all of the new graphics in the same direction as the previous WUWA and final YWT graphics set-those were slick, and professional looking. Wx Center Live just looks cheesy as all get-out, and don't even get me started on the map framing....
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 03, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
TWC Local on the 8's Squeezeback- Spokane, WA- Oct. 14, 2010- 3:38PM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3SiZUl4Ydk#[/url])

I wish TWC would use this squeezeback again during long-form, which features the big LDL. Then I think they should use the smaller LDL full time during the rest of the long-form program just like they used to do, instead of cuing the small LDL at :08/:38, :28/:58, etc.


Thanks Jim for posting that, the squeezeback during longform is what i was trying to refer to.

and for those viewers with the IS2 they could finally see the Marine Product on the LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 03, 2013, 09:45:17 AM
TWC Local on the 8's Squeezeback- Spokane, WA- Oct. 14, 2010- 3:38PM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3SiZUl4Ydk#[/url])

I wish TWC would use this squeezeback again during long-form, which features the big LDL. Then I think they should use the smaller LDL full time during the rest of the long-form program just like they used to do, instead of cuing the small LDL at :08/:38, :28/:58, etc.


Thanks Jim for posting that, the squeezeback during longform is what i was trying to refer to.

and for those viewers with the IS2 they could finally see the Marine Product on the LDL.
While that format of the squeezeback would be okay for IS viewers, it wouldn't be for all others.. in that time alone, those without an IntelliStar saw maybe about 5-10 cities on the LDL out of all the possible cities, which may have not included their own.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 03, 2013, 09:53:47 AM
While that format of the squeezeback would be okay for IS viewers, it wouldn't be for all others.. in that time alone, those without an IntelliStar saw maybe about 5-10 cities on the LDL out of all the possible cities, which may have not included their own.

If you had a choice Zach would you like to see the 33% LDL during the whole duration of a Long Form show? or would the Squeezeback be suitable?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 03, 2013, 10:17:10 AM
While that format of the squeezeback would be okay for IS viewers, it wouldn't be for all others.. in that time alone, those without an IntelliStar saw maybe about 5-10 cities on the LDL out of all the possible cities, which may have not included their own.

If you had a choice Zach would you like to see the 33% LDL during the whole duration of a Long Form show? or would the Squeezeback be suitable?
Personally, I would just want to see something that I could have weather access with. The way they had the format from January 2011 through July 2011 is fine to me. (16% LDL on at all times; squeezeback on the 8s)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on March 07, 2013, 01:38:17 PM
LDL still running during the commercials even before Local on the 8s.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lightning on March 07, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
Looks like the 2 Minute LF return was just another rumor  <_<
Well, I hope it becomes a reality again. I doubt it will, though. <_<
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2013, 06:07:12 PM
Looks like the 2 Minute LF return was just another rumor  <_<
Well, I hope it becomes a reality again. I doubt it will, though. <_<

It took you over a month to realize that? :P

New XL in Morris, MN
Taylor Swift Weather Channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZs4LIVNPqw#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 08, 2013, 01:16:19 AM
Looks like the 2 Minute LF return was just another rumor  <_<
Well, I hope it becomes a reality again. I doubt it will, though. <_<

It took you over a month to realize that? :P

New XL in Morris, MN
Taylor Swift Weather Channel ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZs4LIVNPqw#ws[/url])

Woot! WeatherStar XL!!! -22° on Wednesday? burrr that's a tad bit chilly!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on March 08, 2013, 09:38:53 PM
LDL still running during the commercials even before Local on the 8s.

That'd be awesome. ESPN has that with their Bottom Line, and it's also a way to know for sure you have it on TWC. The increased ad time also makes this a better idea.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 09, 2013, 09:59:38 AM
Hopefully the intellistar beta is still on, march 15th is just around the corner.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 09, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
Hopefully the intellistar beta is still on, march 15th is just around the corner.
What exactly are you talking about?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on March 09, 2013, 03:09:19 PM
Hopefully the intellistar beta is still on, march 15th is just around the corner.

Wasn't the IntelliStar update scrapped? That's not TWC's priority right now. LOT8s just get shorter all the time anyway. Enjoy them while they're still around.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 09, 2013, 03:11:59 PM
Hopefully the intellistar beta is still on, march 15th is just around the corner.
What exactly are you talking about?

https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/intellistar-i-and-ii-update-planned/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/intellistar-i-and-ii-update-planned/)

and i meant to post 5th not 15th

and if it has been scrapped sorry for posting this, i haven't been on in a long time and thought this was still going on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 10, 2013, 04:56:26 AM
I don't think there was ever any truth to that.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 11, 2013, 05:41:10 PM
I'm still shocked there are 617 votes and still there isn't any changes made to the LF Music (http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv/suggestions/2731941-what-happened-to-the-smooth-jazz-on-the-local-on-t).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 11, 2013, 06:15:33 PM
I'm still shocked there are 617 votes and still there isn't any changes made to the LF Music ([url]http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv/suggestions/2731941-what-happened-to-the-smooth-jazz-on-the-local-on-t[/url]).

That's a TINY number compared to the tens of millions of households who watch the network.

At this point I don't give a damn about what TWC does anymore. It's been months since I've really watched it. You all should consider doing the same if you keep predicting TWC is going to bring things back like two minute LFs or jazz music. The odds of that happening at this point is like trying to get the lottery jackpot, it's slim to none...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 12, 2013, 06:42:01 PM
I'm still shocked there are 617 votes and still there isn't any changes made to the LF Music ([url]http://feedback.weather.com/forums/131825-tv/suggestions/2731941-what-happened-to-the-smooth-jazz-on-the-local-on-t[/url]).

That's a TINY number compared to the tens of millions of households who watch the network.

At this point I don't give a damn about what TWC does anymore. It's been months since I've really watched it. You all should consider doing the same if you keep predicting TWC is going to bring things back like two minute LFs or jazz music. The odds of that happening at this point is like trying to get the lottery jackpot, it's slim to none...


Which i totally agree with Mike, i'm even surprised TWC replied to my post (http://www.facebook.com/TheWeatherChannel/posts/10151542640275921) on their page.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on March 12, 2013, 08:54:41 PM
The Weather Channel Local Outage #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0l6cSQUe9c#)

Fast forward to 2:29. The Tides product makes an appearance during a 60-second flavor in place of the marine forecast product   :o

Video courtesy of MrDaniel789 on YouTube.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 12, 2013, 09:33:34 PM
The Weather Channel Local Outage #1 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0l6cSQUe9c#[/url])

Fast forward to 2:29. The Tides product makes an appearance during a 60-second flavor in place of the marine forecast product   :o

Video courtesy of MrDaniel789 on YouTube.
That's a sun outage
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on March 12, 2013, 09:48:10 PM
The Weather Channel Local Outage #1 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0l6cSQUe9c#[/url])

Fast forward to 2:29. The Tides product makes an appearance during a 60-second flavor in place of the marine forecast product   :o

Video courtesy of MrDaniel789 on YouTube.
That's a sun outage


So that explains why Daniel's TWC feed was black all day  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 16, 2013, 02:32:05 PM
This a K flavor TWC should look into for Weekday Programming during all live shows.

:28/:58 - Current Conditions, Metro Conditions, Local Doppler, Radar/Satellite, Daypart Forecast, AM Metro Forecast, PM Metro Forecast, 48 hr Local Forecast, 7 Day Outlook

Solution to the Weekday local forecasts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V7ji1FYuz8#)

I also caught the 2 Minute Local from the "Weather Classroom" programming block.

Weather Classroom Local Forecast 3/16/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ikswc-NcA0#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 16, 2013, 03:12:29 PM
I recorded the same LF lol
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on March 16, 2013, 05:00:04 PM
Nice! So the two-minute LF isn't completely erased forever then. Also, very jazzy-sounding song...I like it.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 16, 2013, 06:48:00 PM
I recorded the same LF lol
I thought u stopped recording TWC
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on March 16, 2013, 07:39:53 PM
Are they only running the 90 second LF at :28 & :58 after on live programming?
Seems all other times it's only 60 seconds which seems very short for a LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 16, 2013, 09:10:10 PM
Are they only running the 90 second LF at :28 & :58 after on live programming?
Seems all other times it's only 60 seconds which seems very short for a LF.
Sunrise Weather is still all 1:30 LFs, and I think Weekend View as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on March 16, 2013, 09:47:57 PM
I caught the 2-minute LF this morning as well  :P

What I Got is a clip of the now-rare 2 minute LF :P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLRtjKVi4dA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 16, 2013, 10:07:50 PM
Also, very jazzy-sounding song...I like it.
It was dubbed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 17, 2013, 05:26:25 PM
Looks like viewers are in agreement with the current state of the Local Forecast (http://www.facebook.com/TheWeatherChannel/posts/10151550085995921) (even if its a small portion.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 19, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
Best of 2009
Weather Channel Top 10 Songs of 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_53Th_HCI#)

Best of 2010
The Weather Channel Top 10 Best Songs of 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpidg_MFtDc#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 26, 2013, 03:40:19 PM
The XL for my area has been looping the LF for about 10 min now. Kinda neat, even though there is no audio.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 26, 2013, 04:42:03 PM
The XL for my area has been looping the LF for about 10 min now. Kinda neat, even though there is no audio.

Please tell me your recording this!  :thrilled:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 26, 2013, 05:24:26 PM
The XL for my area has been looping the LF for about 10 min now. Kinda neat, even though there is no audio.

Please tell me your recording this!  :thrilled:
I didn't catch it the first time. I was having issues with the tuner :(, but I did catch it the second time that it did it. :thumbsup: I caught a 15 min clip. I am adding some music to it so it won't be so boring and I should have the clip uploaded in about 20 min
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 26, 2013, 06:09:52 PM
The XL for my area has been looping the LF for about 10 min now. Kinda neat, even though there is no audio.


Please tell me your recording this!  :thrilled:

I didn't catch it the first time. I was having issues with the tuner :(, but I did catch it the second time that it did it. :thumbsup: I caught a 15 min clip. I am adding some music to it so it won't be so boring and I should have the clip uploaded in about 20 min

Here it is!
http://www.youtube.com/v/sLTgJdwVoZU
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 26, 2013, 06:17:30 PM
The XL for my area has been looping the LF for about 10 min now. Kinda neat, even though there is no audio.


Please tell me your recording this!  :thrilled:

I didn't catch it the first time. I was having issues with the tuner :(, but I did catch it the second time that it did it. :thumbsup: I caught a 15 min clip. I am adding some music to it so it won't be so boring and I should have the clip uploaded in about 20 min

Here it is!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/sLTgJdwVoZU[/url]

interesting, with the exception of Sing to You I have used and uploaded these songs in test playlists last year
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 26, 2013, 06:25:51 PM
Quote
interesting, with the exception of Sing to You I have used and uploaded these songs in test playlists last year
I had thought about using a combination of new and old RF songs, but I just decided to go with a combination of new age and smooth jazz songs and those were the 4 that I happened to pick.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 26, 2013, 06:31:43 PM
The XL for my area has been looping the LF for about 10 min now. Kinda neat, even though there is no audio.


Please tell me your recording this!  :thrilled:

I didn't catch it the first time. I was having issues with the tuner :(, but I did catch it the second time that it did it. :thumbsup: I caught a 15 min clip. I am adding some music to it so it won't be so boring and I should have the clip uploaded in about 20 min

Here it is!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/v/sLTgJdwVoZU[/url]


Awesome clip, thanks for uploading this!

i wish the IntelliStar could do that even if it was in my area.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on March 26, 2013, 10:03:13 PM
The XL for my area has been looping the LF for about 10 min now. Kinda neat, even though there is no audio.

Are there any additional products that you're seeing that aren't usually shown?  (Edit: I see in the video that there aren't any.  :( )  I ask this because I remember when the WeatherStar III and 4000 got stuck in a loop (usually due to a loss of the TWC broadcast signal or other technical error) they would show every product they had built into them for that geographic area.

When I lived in suburban Boston, the XL we had was very bad, and I can't overstate that.  During the morning programming, it was almost guaranteed that there would be no updates for a couple of hours, and all the products would eventually display "no report."  It glitched quite often, even at the best of times.  It even got so bad that the cable company had to switch from Boston's XL to Worcester's during reboots.  (And there's often a huge difference between the weather in Boston and in Worcester.)  Despite adopting both the 4000 and the XL later than many other areas, the cable company fortunately upgraded to the IntelliStar at the first opportunity.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2013, 10:56:39 AM
I remember seeing my XL looping once for a while back in 2000. Can't remember if there was audio or not though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 31, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Holy XL! :blink:
Fawn Grove Township, PA
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 31, 2013, 05:46:43 PM
Holy XL! :blink:
Fawn Grove Township, PA
It's the one by Armstrong Communications. I think a kid on YT uploaded an XL clip of it a few years ago
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 01, 2013, 11:33:05 AM
I had a feeling this would happen eventually-- as of this morning all of the LFs during DP are now 60-seconds in length, joining WCL and all of the weekday morning shows  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 01, 2013, 11:36:08 AM
I had a feeling this would happen eventually-- as of this morning all of the LFs during DP are now 60-seconds in length, joining WCL and all of the weekday morning shows  :rolleyes:

I'm still grateful that Weekend View has K Flavors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on April 01, 2013, 08:56:04 PM
Same here. No telling how long even those will stick around.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 01, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
And I'm probably the only person here who says "I don't even care anymore." :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on April 01, 2013, 11:37:27 PM
And I'm probably the only person here who says "I don't even care anymore." :D
You're not alone. :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on April 02, 2013, 10:02:30 AM
It's not that I don't care, but we're powerless to the changes. The passage of time inevitably leads to change, and there's plenty of it going on at TWC and even in our own lives. I'll be happy if I turn on the network one day to see the TWC that was around in 2010, but I don't honestly expect that. I remember all the complaining even back then, but compare TWC in 2010 to TWC now and the rate of change is much greater today. It's disappointing, but I understand now that the more it changes, the less the likelihood is that TWC we want will magically return. That's why I don't like it but unfortunately have to accept it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 02, 2013, 03:57:11 PM
So this is the FiOS metro map in Tampa.. I want to know why more than half of the map is water? :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on April 02, 2013, 04:13:34 PM
I'm a big beach bum, and I think the map looks cool with a lot of water on it. It's more colorful than just green-brown. Also, Tampa is a coastal city, you know.  :P Most maps are centered on the area it focuses on, and I think that's why it's so centered on Tampa, even if it includes the ocean.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on April 02, 2013, 08:22:25 PM
So this is the FiOS metro map in Tampa.. I want to know why more than half of the map is water? :blink:

By default, the home city for the Star is located in the center of the screen.  If the city's on a coast, then, naturally, one half of the screen will be land and the other half will be water.

When I moved to Daytona Beach in the middle of 2011, I noticed that my IntelliStar's maps had the same problem yours has.  I asked the Star team here in this forum to make an adjustment to show more land, and now the map is 90% land and 10% water.  In other words, they just moved the map further to the west to show more land and more cities.

Last year, we got the HD feed on my cable system with the IntelliStar 2, and, once again, Daytona Beach is in the center of the half-land/half-water map.  Unfortunately, the Star team told me it's a very different process for changing the map view on the IS2, and so there really wasn't much they could do for me at that time.  I assume nothing's changed since, which is why I have no intention of repeating my request.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on April 02, 2013, 10:33:59 PM
And I'm probably the only person here who says "I don't even care anymore." :D

It's not that I don't care

FWIW, I still care somewhat (not as much as I used to, granted).  Of course, I don't watch TWC nearly as much as I did in the '00s; my TWC-watching is primarily relegated to severe weather events or times when nothing else is on.  Now, if I had only a plain-Jane cable package in which TWC was the best available channel, then I suppose I would watch it a lot more.  Even if I don't like (or don't care about) some of the changes to the LFs, it's still an interesting "soap opera" of sorts nonetheless to see whether a K-flavor gets played or whether any instrumentals are played.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on April 05, 2013, 11:25:24 AM
TWC - Memphis Intellistar - Foggy Friday Morning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-IN4rjq1NU#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on April 06, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
I had a feeling this would happen eventually-- as of this morning all of the LFs during DP are now 60-seconds in length, joining WCL and all of the weekday morning shows  :rolleyes:

I'm still grateful that Weekend View has K Flavors.

I now think there are no more K flavors. So now all LF's are 60 seconds, except for that one after Weather Classroom.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 06, 2013, 10:05:20 AM
I had a feeling this would happen eventually-- as of this morning all of the LFs during DP are now 60-seconds in length, joining WCL and all of the weekday morning shows  :rolleyes:

I'm still grateful that Weekend View has K Flavors.

I now think there are no more K flavors. So now all LF's are 60 seconds, except for that one after Weather Classroom.

i posted in the graphics thread the k and l flavors on weather classroom have been replaced with the 60 second locals.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on April 06, 2013, 11:39:21 AM
That's a shame. I'm just guessing that this is a transition to an end to the LOT8's as we know it. They only get shorter, which often foreshadows change.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 07, 2013, 09:24:43 AM
Have you guys ever noticed that on the text based forecast, when the high or low temperature ends in a "0" or a "5", it will read "around" or "near", for example, "High around 60" or "Low near 50." That's a pattern I've been noticing for several years.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 07, 2013, 10:41:02 PM
So before I believe it can someone here chime in and tell us for sure that the LOT8s as we know it really is going byebye as indirectly stated in the article?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 08, 2013, 07:54:11 AM
Lexington, NE WeatherStar XL

Cable Provider: Charter
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 08, 2013, 02:23:23 PM
So before I believe it can someone here chime in and tell us for sure that the LOT8s as we know it really is going byebye as indirectly stated in the article?

I wouldn't think they would answer anything about the new format since the upfront was just last week and they don't want to release any new information to the public at this time.

I tried to get some sort of answer last week and this was the reply i got

Quote
Unfortunately I cannot speak to those details. We apologize for any inconvenience.

and this morning i got this from Local On The 8s Support about the 60 second locals during all dayparts.

Quote
GT, it will be that way for the foreseeable future...a programming decision
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 08, 2013, 03:38:20 PM
Future Weather Channel LOT8s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl_ajM-Q5BI#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 08, 2013, 06:32:56 PM
Have you guys ever noticed that on the text based forecast, when the high or low temperature ends in a "0" or a "5", it will read "around" or "near", for example, "High around 60" or "Low near 50." That's a pattern I've been noticing for several years.
Yes, I've noticed that since the XL era. In fact, TWC used to always use the terms "around" and "near" for all temperature readings until July 2002. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on April 08, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
Localonthe8s, is that a 30-second LF you've got there?  I certainly hope it's not coming to that, but we've gone from 2 minutes to 60 seconds, so this is the next likely step.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 08, 2013, 10:55:31 PM
Localonthe8s, is that a 30-second LF you've got there?  I certainly hope it's not coming to that, but we've gone from 2 minutes to 60 seconds, so this is the next likely step.
Yes, that's a new overnight flavor
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 09, 2013, 05:25:46 PM
Here are 3 versions of the 60 second flavor which would allow the Metro Conditions page to show compared to the Metro Forecast.

My Proposed 60 Second Local for TWC (No Precip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKUW6Azt7k#)

My Proposed 60 Second Local for TWC (Precip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c-zEBJDIUk#)

My Proposed 60 Second Local for TWC (Weather Bulletin) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UypOWnFYKJA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on April 10, 2013, 01:00:15 AM
Localonthe8s, is that a 30-second LF you've got there?  I certainly hope it's not coming to that, but we've gone from 2 minutes to 60 seconds, so this is the next likely step.
Yes, that's a new overnight flavor

I thought the 30-second flavor was just a sarcastic video. If that's true, then TWC is making the LF as short as its ever been. It's sad. This will probably be the last stretch of TWC in my life.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on April 10, 2013, 01:25:53 AM
This is a reminder that there actually were 30-second LFs at one point:

http://www.twcclassics.com/local-forecast/flavors/weatherstar-3000 (http://www.twcclassics.com/local-forecast/flavors/weatherstar-3000)
http://www.twcclassics.com/local-forecast/flavors/weatherstar-4000 (http://www.twcclassics.com/local-forecast/flavors/weatherstar-4000)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Ice Man on April 10, 2013, 04:39:18 AM
This is a reminder that there actually were 30-second LFs at one point:

[url]http://www.twcclassics.com/local-forecast/flavors/weatherstar-3000[/url] ([url]http://www.twcclassics.com/local-forecast/flavors/weatherstar-3000[/url])
[url]http://www.twcclassics.com/local-forecast/flavors/weatherstar-4000[/url] ([url]http://www.twcclassics.com/local-forecast/flavors/weatherstar-4000[/url])


If I'm not mistaken, the 4k wasn't a forecast at all, and only showed local/regional conditions. The 3k 'maybe' but I remember times when that would skip forecasts as well.

Are all 30-second LF's going by the zip code instead of a local name? That seems SO impersonal.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on April 10, 2013, 08:59:48 AM
So, it's real then.  That's a bummer.  :huh:  At least I got to see a few K-flavors and 2-minute flavors in the last few months.  I guess I had better enjoy the 60-second locals while they're still around.  :itsok:  Since we're dropping 30 seconds each time the LFs are chopped down, the next step after :30 is :0.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on April 10, 2013, 10:51:38 AM
Are all 30-second LF's going by the zip code instead of a local name? That seems SO impersonal.

The DirecTV-generated local forecasts use ZIP codes, and regular Stars use location names.  I don't think I've ever seen ZIP codes used on a Star.  Unless you're talking about something else that I'm missing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 10, 2013, 11:28:00 AM
Yeah, and those are not real Icons either. For some reason, the icons are not displaying properly on my feed
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on April 10, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
During the past few years I've been here, it's been incredible how much the LOT8's has changed. I remember in 2009 people were still complaining about the IS icons and wanted the XL ones back. Then people didn't like how many of the LOT8's songs were repeats in the years 2010-2011. 2012 was the big permanent music shift--or debacle, for some-- from jazz to vocals, and 2013 has just been a serious diminishing of the LOT8's importance. I was one of the people to complain about the music, too, but it's amazing how many of us took the LOT8's for granted the past few years, complaining about things such as icons and music repeats. None of those things, though, compare to the phasing out of the LOT8's. I didn't think it'd happen this quickly, but time does inevitably lead to change, and TWC is living up to that principle. I wish the network the best, but I don't see it surviving on major TV networks much longer with all the negative changes I'm observing. If TWC doesn't keep the LOT8's, it won't be keeping my attention or viewership, as I mainly watch for my local weather anyhow unless there is some serious weather news around the country.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Ice Man on April 10, 2013, 07:17:22 PM
The DirecTV-generated local forecasts use ZIP codes, and regular Stars use location names.  I don't think I've ever seen ZIP codes used on a Star.  Unless you're talking about something else that I'm missing.

Yeah, that's what I was talking about.

During the past few years I've been here, it's been incredible how much the LOT8's has changed. I remember in 2009 people were still complaining about the IS icons and wanted the XL ones back. Then people didn't like how many of the LOT8's songs were repeats in the years 2010-2011. 2012 was the big permanent music shift--or debacle, for some-- from jazz to vocals, and 2013 has just been a serious diminishing of the LOT8's importance. I was one of the people to complain about the music, too, but it's amazing how many of us took the LOT8's for granted the past few years, complaining about things such as icons and music repeats. None of those things, though, compare to the phasing out of the LOT8's. I didn't think it'd happen this quickly, but time does inevitably lead to change, and TWC is living up to that principle. I wish the network the best, but I don't see it surviving on major TV networks much longer with all the negative changes I'm observing. If TWC doesn't keep the LOT8's, it won't be keeping my attention or viewership, as I mainly watch for my local weather anyhow unless there is some serious weather news around the country.

It's very depressing, the way that broadcasting has gone. Subject to the same kind of hyper-inflation that has hit, well I guess an OK example is the health industry.

Premium Cable, which once upon a time was meant to be a holy grail for broadcasting because it would be free of ads, has now fallen right back into it. Only now the technology just demands everything to be even MORE costly than it was before. Combined with the kind of 'ADHD-proof' programming that is prominent now, and it's not surprising that nobody can ever expect to sit down and RELAX to watch a weather forecast. If it takes more than 5 seconds to get your message across, you risk losing your audience. Even the coverage of Golf... of all things, Golf... has started to show signs of trying to make itself super-exciting. Last year I did a literal face palm when I saw an ad for a tournament set to music from Inception (complete with the dramatic foghorn noise). I felt like I was watching one of those satirical youtube trailers where they take something cute/romantic and turn it into a horror piece.

TWC hasn't even taken the brunt of this though. The history channel seems to have had to reinvent itself as the fantasy channel just to keep itself alive.

Growing up, I wanted to get into broadcasting. I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole now.  :club:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 12, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
which would present the best updated local weather information during the 60 second locals?

Metro Conditions after Current Conditions (Attached) or Metro Forecast before 36 Hour Local Forecast (Attached)?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 24, 2013, 12:04:08 AM
Weather Channel Xl 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy440SgRFiE#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on April 24, 2013, 12:23:12 AM
How interesting!!  I live in Daytona Beach, but only for almost 2 years, so I've only ever seen the IntelliStar and IntelliStar 2 down here.  I did see a 4000 from Orlando on YouTube, but this is the first time I've ever seen any older Star from Daytona Beach.

Thanks for the share! :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 24, 2013, 07:51:40 PM
Vic, I hope you realize that is Eltiempo10's XL video from 2004 that some random teenybopper took a video of with his camera with a different song dubbed in...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on April 24, 2013, 09:16:24 PM
Vic, I hope you realize that is Eltiempo10's XL video from 2004 that some random teenybopper took a video of with his camera with a different song dubbed in...

Yeah, not sure what the purpose of the video is.  The title says "Weather Channel XL 2013" but the date on the XL is June 10, which hasn't even happened yet. :wacko:  So obviously it's not from this year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on April 25, 2013, 12:11:24 AM
Vic, I hope you realize that is Eltiempo10's XL video from 2004 that some random teenybopper took a video of with his camera with a different song dubbed in...

Yeah, not sure what the purpose of the video is.  The title says "Weather Channel XL 2013" but the date on the XL is June 10, which hasn't even happened yet. :wacko:  So obviously it's not from this year.
Plus, June 10 is going to be on a Monday this year too.  ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 27, 2013, 12:52:55 AM
There was a full-screen LOT8's a couple of minutes ago during "Loaded." Are the squeezebacks gone now?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 27, 2013, 08:12:15 AM
There was a full-screen LOT8's a couple of minutes ago during "Loaded." Are the squeezebacks gone now?  :unsure:

The only thing i could guess they aren't doing cut-ins during shows anymore.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 28, 2013, 01:29:47 AM
I finally got the icon issue fixed on my DirecTV feed: :D
May 2013 Playlist 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ_dAXyfmmM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on April 28, 2013, 04:58:32 AM
That was a freaky problem and must have been annoying to look at.  Any idea what caused it?  How did you get it fixed?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 28, 2013, 10:05:41 AM
The receiver must have rebooted by itself because we had a strong thunderstorm a few weeks ago that briefly knocked power to the campus that housed television department. A reboot is usually all you needed, but I am glad the icons are back to normal.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on April 28, 2013, 05:15:58 PM
You know, the icons did the same exact thing on my DirecTV.  Since others have experienced it, it makes me wonder if the problem was on DirecTV as a whole rather than an individual receiver.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 28, 2013, 08:29:05 PM
I really do miss the Metro "Now" and Radar/Satellite products on the IntelliStar  :hmm:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 28, 2013, 09:29:17 PM
I didn't know this at first, but "Look to the West" by Steve Glotzer is called "Morning Brew" on his gettyimages account. Ironically there is a song on there called Look to the West, but it sounds nothing like what played back in August 2010.

http://www.gettyimages.com/music/artists/43434-steve-glotzer (http://www.gettyimages.com/music/artists/43434-steve-glotzer)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on April 29, 2013, 07:50:23 PM
While you're watching "Local on the 8s" on the IntelliStar, The sponsor ad (as Proven Winners shown) is usually in the upper right hand corner,  but now moved about three spaces to the left.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 29, 2013, 08:45:24 PM
does anyone else agrees that this should be a new 60 second local?

IntelliStar - New Flavor Lineup - May 18, 2009 - 11:18am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0QmZ9WP0wA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on May 02, 2013, 09:43:45 AM
Yes.  If they have to do 60-second locals, this works.  True, you only get 7-8 seconds for each screen, but something has to give when time is so short.

Apparently, my DirecTV setup doesn't know what to do with the 60-second LF's.  It showed two more screens (the 7-day forecast and the local radar) after the music had stopped and the OCMs had reappeared.  So, you could say I got a 90-second LF "under the table."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 04, 2013, 08:18:20 AM
New Bedford Intellistar October 2009 Daytime Songs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYC0PtEqtTY#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 07, 2013, 10:46:35 AM
How would this Background look on the IntelliStar? i saw this during the Today Show.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 07, 2013, 05:06:40 PM
How would this Background look on the IntelliStar? i saw this during the Today Show.
Do you have a higher res version of that image?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 07, 2013, 07:55:56 PM
How would this Background look on the IntelliStar? i saw this during the Today Show.

That looks like the XL v.2 background. If I didn't know any better, I'd say it is.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 08, 2013, 06:35:49 AM
How would this Background look on the IntelliStar? i saw this during the Today Show.
Do you have a higher res version of that image?

This is the most hi-res i could do 1357x744
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on May 09, 2013, 10:58:49 AM
My first LF clips from Spokane since June of 2012!  :dance:


TWC IntelliSTAR- Spokane, WA- May 8, 2013- 4:48PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M1kp0kVvW4#)

TWC Local on the 8's Squeezeback- Spokane, WA- May 8, 2013- 5:18PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXShsg6gzOc#)


Both clips have been recorded at the residence of an old friend of mine, of whom I was just visiting for the day yesterday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 10, 2013, 10:12:11 AM
I wonder when the new local on the 8s format is going to debut (my thinking might be late may or early june)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 21, 2013, 12:29:09 PM
They have switched to all instrumentals as of this morning
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 21, 2013, 12:31:15 PM
Was just about to say the same thing. Recently heard "Falling Star" by Ryan Farish, which was a Feb/March song. I support the temporary adjustment, but I still don't like how the switch is TWC's backhand way of admitting that their other music is tacky and not well-suited all the time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 27, 2013, 06:38:53 PM
I think I found a new 4000 in Johnstown, PA. Quite a bit of degradation on this baby
(RARE!) Weatherstar 4000 on TWC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONiCfLPbd0s#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 27, 2013, 06:41:45 PM
does anyone know if the instrumentals are still airing on twc?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 27, 2013, 07:01:17 PM
does anyone know if the instrumentals are still airing on twc?
yes, though that may change later this week if they decide to use the june playlist
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on May 27, 2013, 07:34:05 PM
Nice find!  It sure is a colorful local forecast, certainly!  How ironic that the radar screen displays better than anything else!  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on May 27, 2013, 08:03:50 PM
I think I found a new 4000 in Johnstown, PA. Quite a bit of degradation on this baby
(RARE!) Weatherstar 4000 on TWC ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONiCfLPbd0s#ws[/url])

Not new at all.. Shaun recorded this 4000 last year :yes:

WeatherStar 4000 - Seven Springs, PA - 02/26/2012 948am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hIpu1Ozfl8#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 02, 2013, 07:28:30 PM
What the new 60 Second Local May Look Like? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prq3O2P1dYM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 02, 2013, 10:26:23 PM
Has the song "Deep Sea Sharp" by Kenny Kilgore been used on TWC before? :dunno: It sounds familiar... :thinking:

http://www.gettyimages.com/music/download-songs/pop-rock-52069-deep-sea-sharp (http://www.gettyimages.com/music/download-songs/pop-rock-52069-deep-sea-sharp)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 05, 2013, 07:03:08 PM
Uh, is it normal for the local radar screen to get skipped like this? :dunno:

IntelliStar Local Forecast - June 5, 2013 - Tropical Storm Andrea (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb2VT1ANBfM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 05, 2013, 10:05:17 PM
Uh, is it normal for the local radar screen to get skipped like this? :dunno:

IntelliStar Local Forecast - June 5, 2013 - Tropical Storm Andrea ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb2VT1ANBfM#[/url])


There must have been too much stuff to fit in one minute would be my guess.  The Weather Bulletin took up two pages, so that used more time.  Another reason why the locals need to be longer... :club:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 05, 2013, 10:24:48 PM
Uh, is it normal for the local radar screen to get skipped like this? :dunno:

IntelliStar Local Forecast - June 5, 2013 - Tropical Storm Andrea ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb2VT1ANBfM#[/url])


There must have been too much stuff to fit in one minute would be my guess.  The Weather Bulletin took up two pages, so that used more time.  Another reason why the locals need to be longer... :club:
Andy, I completely agree with you on the locals.. and I mean, couldnt they just have it where the 36-hour forecast is cut down to a 24-hour forecast, that way the local radar screen could be shown in such an instance? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on June 05, 2013, 10:46:04 PM
This LF is just fail.  :rolleyes:  About the only way to get everything in is to take about 7-10 seconds for each screen.  At that point, you pretty much have to record it and play it in slow motion after the fact.  So, they figure skipping screens is a better alternative in a lose-lose situation.  Imagine what it will be like when the 30-second LFs debut (and I hate to even give TWC the idea).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 06, 2013, 10:17:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awsMm48F0vY#t=27s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awsMm48F0vY#t=27s)

they heard my complaint :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 07, 2013, 12:59:08 AM
At 9:18PM PT, I saw the tides product on my STAR where the marine forecast product should be. Sadly, I was unable to get a video or picture of the now-rare tides screen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 07, 2013, 08:43:11 AM
Instrumentals are here to stay according to my source from Local On The 8s Support, the reason Smooth Jazz and Vocal Music had stop airing during the 8s is because TWC's budget towards music has run dry. (WeatherScan's Music isn't slated to change this year either.)

This makes sense because TWC is deciding to revamp sometime in late fall according to a friend of mine who got a reply earlier this week from Local On The 8s Support. "Local Weather all the time"

there is nothing announced at this time about changes to Flavors/Durations/Music/Weatherscan since i was told mostly everything is in discussion and up in the air at this time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 07, 2013, 09:15:02 AM
Well that can't be too bad, I mean it probably costs more to license vocal songs anyways
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on June 07, 2013, 04:09:32 PM
So, this means the vocals are gone?  I guess you could call that a win.  :)  For some reason, though, all I'm picturing when I hear "Local Weather all the time" is a continuous LDL with no actual LOT8's segments (and thus no music).  I suppose it could also mean that there will be a separate "local" TWC which will play continuous LFs, complete with music, while the "main" TWC shows longform or live (or not live) OCM segments.  Those are my two guesses, although I unfortunately think the former of the two is more real.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 09, 2013, 10:50:30 AM
I heard what I got by sublime at :48 and don't recall it playing the weeks before when they dropped the vocals :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 09, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
Just heard a instrumental song that I don't think I have ever heard before at 1:18PM CT
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on June 10, 2013, 09:50:03 AM
I'll be pretty happy if the vocals are gone. I know I've said this before, but there is no point in changing music styles in times of disaster and higher ratings. Keep the music consistently pleasant and professional without excessive tacky weather lyrics. It just makes sense, and this would be the first positive change in a long while.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on June 17, 2013, 05:20:18 PM
Vocals are back.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 17, 2013, 06:39:03 PM
Vocals are back.
Well it was good while it lasted :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 18, 2013, 08:27:17 AM
Vocals are back.

i won't be surprised if the Full Screen Locals are gone in the Fall with "Local Weather All The Time" so i'll just let the Vocal era run it's course.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 18, 2013, 11:43:15 AM
Vocals are back.

Bummer.

As Alex said, we might as well just wait until the fall when the LF revamps kick in  :itsok:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 18, 2013, 11:57:11 AM
Vocals are back.

i won't be surprised if the Full Screen Locals are gone in the Fall with "Local Weather All The Time" so i'll just let the Vocal era run it's course.

I'm confused, though, because just a little under two weeks ago you said you had a source from the LOT8s support team that said TWC's budget towards the locals music had "run dry," so the vocals and smooth jazz were gone for what seemed like the foreseeable future until this "revamp" was done in the fall.  So I am surprised that vocals would have returned so soon if money problems were indeed the case unless they just got some random spike in revenue recently. :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 18, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
I'm confused, though, because just a little under two weeks ago you said you had a source from the LOT8s support team that said TWC's budget towards the locals music had "run dry," so the vocals and smooth jazz were gone for what seemed like the foreseeable future until this "revamp" was done in the fall.  So I am surprised that vocals would have returned so soon if money problems were indeed the case unless they just got some random spike in revenue recently. :thinking:

I agree Andy i'm confused too, the source said the exact things you just referred to. i just think the source lied just to stop viewers from contacting TWC Feedback regarding the current state of TWC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on June 18, 2013, 02:18:25 PM
It must be about priorities.  Evidently, having vocals on the LFs is enough of a priority that TWC had to do whatever they could to get them back on the air.  Did they borrow money?  :D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 18, 2013, 03:14:18 PM
Didn't someone not too long ago (I can't remember who) post about TWC having their credit downgraded. I think I recall within that small article mentioning how they as a company needed to borrow some money to pay off debts. I know the music department is an entirely different beast from what ever department(s) or whatever within the company that's responsible for the debt, but I would think if you're in debt and you're borrowing money, wouldn't a good cost effective initiative be to play in house production music instead of inquiring licenses to play mainstream musicians? I don't know how much licensing music for a company like TWC would cost, but I surely doubt it's cheap. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 18, 2013, 03:24:37 PM
Didn't someone not too long ago (I can't remember who) post about TWC having their credit downgraded. I think I recall within that small article mentioning how they as a company needed to borrow some money to pay off debts. I know the music department is an entirely different beast from what ever department(s) or whatever within the company that's responsible for the debt, but I would think if you're in debt and you're borrowing money, wouldn't a good cost effective initiative be to play in house production music instead of inquiring licenses to play mainstream musicians? I don't know how much licensing music for a company like TWC would cost, but I surely doubt it's cheap. :no:

Well, that's kind of what Alex and I were talking about earlier, Tavores.  See the posts above and this post (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/general-lf-discussion/msg183673/#msg183673).  Now I don't know about an article, but Alex said he received feedback from LOT8s support saying their budget on music had "run dry" so that's why they weren't playing smooth jazz or vocals anymore.  I guarantee acquiring the licenses for this popular music is not cheap, so seeing that his post was less than two weeks ago and vocals are somehow back, I think we are all confused at this point. :blink:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 18, 2013, 04:24:26 PM
Maybe it was a miscommunication or misunderstanding?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on June 18, 2013, 05:44:52 PM
They've been playing a lot of smooth jazz along with the vocals in the last year or two, haven't they?  :D  It's too bad they only just recently stopped playing it this year.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 18, 2013, 09:56:02 PM
I'm confused about the music issue as well  :wacko:  If TWC is airing vocal music again, wouldn't they have to acquire new licenses to air the songs again by paying the license holders again?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on June 19, 2013, 04:42:46 AM
No telling. As Tavores said, TWC has their own music--the Beach Street music, to be exact. Alex's source must have either been mistaken or TWC changed their mind soon after. In fact, I don't think I've heard a single instrumental since TWC switched back. Like the rest of you, I'd like to see them make up their mind and stick with it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 19, 2013, 08:14:29 AM
No telling. As Tavores said, TWC has their own music--the Beach Street music, to be exact. Alex's source must have either been mistaken or TWC changed their mind soon after. In fact, I don't think I've heard a single instrumental since TWC switched back. Like the rest of you, I'd like to see them make up their mind and stick with it.

I'll see if i get a reply from TWC Feedback about the change, or i might just get another lie again  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on June 19, 2013, 12:18:04 PM
They most certainly have to pay fees to ASCAP for playing of the music used on the LOT8's. It's usually covered by a rights usage contract.

Blanket License
"Blanket license" is a license which allows the music user to perform any or all of over 8.5 million songs in the ASCAP repertory as much or as little as they like. Licensees pay an annual fee for the license. The blanket license saves music users the paperwork, trouble and expense of finding and negotiating licenses with all of the copyright owners of the works that might be used during a year and helps prevent the user from even inadvertently infringing on the copyrights of ASCAP's members and the many foreign writers whose music is licensed by ASCAP in the U.S. [see also Per Program License]
http://www.ascap.com/licensing/termsdefined.aspx (http://www.ascap.com/licensing/termsdefined.aspx)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 19, 2013, 06:26:18 PM
They use BMI, not ASCAP.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 19, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
I'm sure Beach Street made hundreds of songs for TWC, seeing how track numbers ended in the hundreds in their volumes. I'm also positive a good number of them are suitable for today's genre of music that's desired for the LFs as well. TWC should just use them, and save money.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 19, 2013, 08:52:07 PM
I'm sure Beach Street made hundreds of songs for TWC, seeing how track numbers ended in the hundreds in their volumes. I'm also positive a good number of them are suitable for today's genre of music that's desired for the LFs as well. TWC should just use them, and save money.

Even if TWC used the Dewolfe and other libraries TWN used to use the LFs would be restored imo
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 22, 2013, 05:52:56 PM
I heard rushing at 1:08 this morning
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on June 22, 2013, 07:09:13 PM
I heard rushing at 1:08 this morning
Emergency feed perhaps?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 22, 2013, 08:08:47 PM
I heard rushing at 1:08 this morning
Emergency feed perhaps?
No, they played it since they had brought back vocals I was just too lazy to post it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 01, 2013, 08:00:02 AM
Has anyone seen "High Rip Current Risk" on the Bulletin Screen before?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 01, 2013, 10:57:43 AM
Yes, I've seen it on the Daytona Beach Intellistar before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on July 01, 2013, 11:48:06 AM
Has anyone seen "High Rip Current Risk" on the Bulletin Screen before?

Never seen that weather bulletin before. Was there narration?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 01, 2013, 04:12:41 PM
Has anyone seen "High Rip Current Risk" on the Bulletin Screen before?

Never seen that weather bulletin before. Was there narration?

Since the locals have been 60 seconds there was no narration.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 04, 2013, 05:22:02 PM
What on earth is this? A new type of satellite LF? Don't they use these graphics during Day Planner? OMG WTF IS THIS? NEW LOCAL FORECAST?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0K17yjeCYg#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 04, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
What on earth is this? A new type of satellite LF? Don't they use these graphics during Day Planner? OMG WTF IS THIS? NEW LOCAL FORECAST?! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0K17yjeCYg#[/url])
It's the emergency feed
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on July 04, 2013, 05:38:15 PM
What on earth is this? A new type of satellite LF? Don't they use these graphics during Day Planner? OMG WTF IS THIS? NEW LOCAL FORECAST?! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0K17yjeCYg#[/url])


That was my reaction when I first saw these new graphics a couple of months ago  :P  Later on, I found out that the graphics were part of the EF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 04, 2013, 06:46:21 PM
What on earth is this? A new type of satellite LF? Don't they use these graphics during Day Planner? OMG WTF IS THIS? NEW LOCAL FORECAST?! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0K17yjeCYg#[/url])


Yikes - the EF is not SD safe! :o

More discussion on the EF and its new look can be found here: https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/emergency-feed-sightnings/msg183199/#msg183199 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/emergency-feed-sightnings/msg183199/#msg183199)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 04, 2013, 07:04:51 PM
What on earth is this? A new type of satellite LF? Don't they use these graphics during Day Planner? OMG WTF IS THIS? NEW LOCAL FORECAST?! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0K17yjeCYg#[/url])


Yikes - the EF is not SD safe! :o

More discussion on the EF and its new look can be found here: [url]https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/emergency-feed-sightnings/msg183199/#msg183199[/url] ([url]https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/emergency-feed-sightnings/msg183199/#msg183199[/url])

Interesting, I must've missed it I don't recall seeing that before. I just thought the EF was the old pre-2011 graphics.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on July 06, 2013, 04:33:49 PM
During the past few years I've been here, it's been incredible how much the LOT8's has changed. I remember in 2009 people were still complaining about the IS icons and wanted the XL ones back. Then people didn't like how many of the LOT8's songs were repeats in the years 2010-2011. 2012 was the big permanent music shift--or debacle, for some-- from jazz to vocals, and 2013 has just been a serious diminishing of the LOT8's importance. I was one of the people to complain about the music, too, but it's amazing how many of us took the LOT8's for granted the past few years, complaining about things such as icons and music repeats. None of those things, though, compare to the phasing out of the LOT8's. I didn't think it'd happen this quickly, but time does inevitably lead to change, and TWC is living up to that principle. I wish the network the best, but I don't see it surviving on major TV networks much longer with all the negative changes I'm observing. If TWC doesn't keep the LOT8's, it won't be keeping my attention or viewership, as I mainly watch for my local weather anyhow unless there is some serious weather news around the country.

You're just talking about a few years. I have been watching TWC since 1991.  I see a much greater range of changes...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 09, 2013, 11:58:58 AM
Solar sailer at :58 :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 10, 2013, 02:37:24 AM
Solar sailer at :58 :huh:
Any other instrumentals?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on July 19, 2013, 04:34:50 AM
Pretty sure I just heard Ryan Farish - Neon Stars at 3:28AM CT. It may not have been Neon Stars, but it was one of RF's newer songs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 19, 2013, 06:04:38 AM
Pretty sure I just heard Ryan Farish - Neon Stars at 3:28AM CT. It may not have been Neon Stars, but it was one of RF's newer songs.


Fall River/New Bedford IntelliStar Local Forecast 7/19/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWpVbPtWyB0#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Matt "Trance" Fury on July 19, 2013, 10:07:24 AM
Solar sailer at :58 :huh:
Any other instrumentals?

Hi all! I just got word that "February (Mid Winter Nigh Mix) will be playing soon. Sounds like Brian is getting more time to spend on Local Forecast music. Glad to see he still considers me. Thanks for the support!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on July 19, 2013, 11:40:38 AM
Hi all! I just got word that "February (Mid Winter Nigh Mix) will be playing soon. Sounds like Brian is getting more time to spend on Local Forecast music. Glad to see he still considers me. Thanks for the support!

That is awesome news!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 19, 2013, 01:18:52 PM
Pretty sure I just heard Ryan Farish - Neon Stars at 3:28AM CT. It may not have been Neon Stars, but it was one of RF's newer songs.


Fall River/New Bedford IntelliStar Local Forecast 7/19/13 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWpVbPtWyB0#[/url])
I used "Neon Stars" on my June playlist last year, and the cut is almost identical! :o Perfect summer song, skip to 6:30 http://youtu.be/emWX1Gk-d9A (http://youtu.be/emWX1Gk-d9A)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 19, 2013, 03:36:27 PM
Solar sailer at :58 :huh:
Any other instrumentals?

Hi all! I just got word that "February (Mid Winter Nigh Mix) will be playing soon. Sounds like Brian is getting more time to spend on Local Forecast music. Glad to see he still considers me. Thanks for the support!

Awesome news Matt! thanks for sharing hopefully i can catch a clip of it soon.

Hopefully this means Brian is going to bring instrumental music back in the near future and ditch the vocals one can dream  :innocent:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on July 19, 2013, 04:55:24 PM

Hi all! I just got word that "February (Mid Winter Nigh Mix) will be playing soon. Sounds like Brian is getting more time to spend on Local Forecast music. Glad to see he still considers me. Thanks for the support!

That's awesome! I enjoyed that one in September 2011. We're grateful to hear any instrumentals at this point, I guess.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 19, 2013, 07:50:10 PM
Solar sailer at :58 :huh:
Any other instrumentals?

Hi all! I just got word that "February (Mid Winter Nigh Mix) will be playing soon. Sounds like Brian is getting more time to spend on Local Forecast music. Glad to see he still considers me. Thanks for the support!
Whatever happened to them playing your new song, "Florida Sun (Sieve Oichre Sunset) Mix?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Matt "Trance" Fury on July 20, 2013, 11:23:32 PM
Solar sailer at :58 :huh:
Any other instrumentals?

Hi all! I just got word that "February (Mid Winter Nigh Mix) will be playing soon. Sounds like Brian is getting more time to spend on Local Forecast music. Glad to see he still considers me. Thanks for the support!
Whatever happened to them playing your new song, "Florida Sun (Sieve Oichre Sunset) Mix?

Good question! It's available for TWC/Brian to pick up but I'm not sure if they didn't think it fit or just haven't had time. The piano that Nick remixed at the tail end of this remix is just incredible and would fit perfectly on Lot8's. Anyone who has someone's ear at TWC. please request!! :-D
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on July 21, 2013, 08:38:52 AM
I'm looking forward to hearing "February."  Any music that captures the "true feel" of TWC gets my vote.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on July 21, 2013, 11:14:10 PM
I used "Neon Stars" on my June playlist last year, and the cut is almost identical! :o Perfect summer song, skip to 6:30
I thought I had heard it on one of your test lists before!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on July 23, 2013, 09:40:59 AM
David Holmes - "11, 12, 13" just played at 9:38 AM EDT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 23, 2013, 12:04:48 PM
Rushing - Moby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoLoRSG37Nk#ws)

Neon Stars - Ryan Farish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp4nN6W5yrA#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCgx2GQ2GLE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCgx2GQ2GLE#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 23, 2013, 05:56:22 PM
Oh good, I'm glad Rushing is back. It's not like we hear it every couple of weeks when the emergency feed is cued. :P

But seriously, I'd take this over vocals.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on July 26, 2013, 02:02:21 AM
Hi all! I just got word that "February (Mid Winter Nigh Mix) will be playing soon. Sounds like Brian is getting more time to spend on Local Forecast music. Glad to see he still considers me. Thanks for the support!

It just played at 1:58am.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on July 26, 2013, 10:30:45 AM
Hi all! I just got word that "February (Mid Winter Nigh Mix) will be playing soon. Sounds like Brian is getting more time to spend on Local Forecast music. Glad to see he still considers me. Thanks for the support!

It just played at 1:58am.
Of course...on the Overnight playlist. I wish it would play during the daytime.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on August 05, 2013, 09:43:08 PM
When I visit weather.com and typed in states in NY Metropolitan areas, such as New York City and Staten Island, the weather icon shows the sun icon instead of the moon icon during the nighttime hours, which was reported as an error.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 23, 2013, 02:45:05 AM
The squeezeback local during a 2:00AM ET long-form show doesn't seem to be showing the current conditions at all anymore (just says "Data Not Available") since I first noticed this error about a week or two ago. Not sure if it's my STAR that's doing this or if it's all of the STARs nationwide  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 23, 2013, 08:11:44 AM
The squeezeback local during a 2:00AM ET long-form show doesn't seem to be showing the current conditions at all anymore (just says "Data Not Available") since I first noticed this error about a week or two ago. Not sure if it's my STAR that's doing this or if it's all of the STARs nationwide  :dunno:

I can check at 2:18pm today when it comes on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 27, 2013, 07:47:08 PM
Charter cable in the town of Grand Coulee, Washington no longer shows any LOT8s whatsover  :no:  The headend used to show the WeatherSTAR 4000 up in Omak but as of now it only shows satellite LFs and LDL. I don't believe this is a LOT8s outage, though, as Grand Coulee and Omak are two separate headends (TWC is on channel 12 in Grand Coulee while up in Omak it's on channel 14). I'm guessing that the Omak TWC feed must have been simulcasted in Grand Coulee until 2008, when the GC headend discontinued its digital tier package and the TWC feed must have became it's own separate feed in GC.

Because of this discovery today at my grandmother's house in Grand Coulee, I don't know what the fate is of Omak's WeatherSTAR 4000 unit  :dunno:  but I guess it was worth finding out for myself.

Here is my last recorded video clip of Omak's 4000 unit from six and a half years ago.

TWC WeatherSTAR 4000- Omak, WA- Apr. 1, 2007- 6:59PM PST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxQeOJOHW4o#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on August 27, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
Charter cable in the town of Grand Coulee, Washington no longer shows any LOT8s whatsover  :no:  The headend used to show the WeatherSTAR 4000 up in Omak but as of now it only shows satellite LFs and LDL. I don't believe this is a LOT8s outage, though, as Grand Coulee and Omak are two separate headends (TWC is on channel 12 in Grand Coulee while up in Omak it's on channel 14). I'm guessing that the Omak TWC feed must have been simulcasted in Grand Coulee until 2008, when the GC headend discontinued its digital tier package and the TWC feed must have became it's own separate feed in GC.

Because of this discovery today at my grandmother's house in Grand Coulee, I don't know what the fate is of Omak's WeatherSTAR 4000 unit  :dunno:  but I guess it was worth finding out for myself.

Here is my last recorded video clip of Omak's 4000 unit from six and a half years ago.

TWC WeatherSTAR 4000- Omak, WA- Apr. 1, 2007- 6:59PM PST ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxQeOJOHW4o#[/url])

Maybe TWC is planning on ending support of the WeatherSTAR 4000? :unsure: It's possible that the workers at that Charter headend might be aware of the end of TWC's analog satellite signal. The one in Litchfield, IL is still being used as of late.
WeatherStar 4000 8/23/2013 Brown vertical scroll error (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS1O31w332U#)
It's possible that they couldn't even afford an InteliStar or even an InteliStar 2. It would be nice if TWC were to offer most of their cable affiliates a free upgrade if they still have an older legacy model. The 4000 is already 23 years old.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 27, 2013, 10:26:25 PM
Groton, CT IntelliStar

Star ID: 22512

Headend: Norwich, CT Xfinity/Comcast

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 03, 2013, 10:53:41 PM
Has anyone ever seen an error like this before? I didn't know the IS could mess up like that. :o

TWC- Local on the 8's error- Chicago Comcast cable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L4yFzoR-NY#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 09, 2013, 09:38:12 AM
Has anyone ever seen an error like this before? I didn't know the IS could mess up like that. :o

TWC- Local on the 8's error- Chicago Comcast cable ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L4yFzoR-NY#ws[/url])


Yes.

Severely messed up IntelliStar - Feb. 13, 2009 - 8:58pm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rljJLAN1rvk#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 10, 2013, 12:57:25 PM
Has anyone ever seen an error like this before? I didn't know the IS could mess up like that. :o

TWC- Local on the 8's error- Chicago Comcast cable ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L4yFzoR-NY#ws[/url])


Yes.

Severely messed up IntelliStar - Feb. 13, 2009 - 8:58pm ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rljJLAN1rvk#[/url])


Heh, I guess I lied. I actually do remember seeing that video before, but it's been so long I guess I forgot.  :P


Here's another question for anyone who can answer I have about the XLv2 (2001-2004)

On the text forecast (36 hr. forecast), what was the max amount of lines shown per daypart screen before the remainder carries over to another screen? Is it 6 or 7? I'm guessing 6, but I could be wrong. :dunno:

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on September 10, 2013, 01:46:34 PM


Here's another question for anyone who can answer I have about the XLv2 (2001-2004)

On the text forecast (36 hr. forecast), what was the max amount of lines shown per daypart screen before the remainder carries over to another screen? Is it 6 or 7? I'm guessing 6, but I could be wrong. :dunno:

Pretty sure it's 6. 7 lines would be overlapping part of the LDL
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 24, 2013, 01:12:20 PM
IntelliSTAR #26203, Pullman, WA. The headend is Time Warner Cable.

TWC IntelliSTAR- Pullman, WA- Sep. 23, 2013- 7:28AM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R7pjGuPVCQ#)

I once saw a WeatherSTAR XL on this headend about 8 years ago  :yes:  back when the headend was still Adelphia. The XL was replaced with the IS when Time Warner acquired Adelphia in late 2005.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on September 24, 2013, 03:43:34 PM
IntelliSTAR #26203, Pullman, WA. The headend is Time Warner Cable.

TWC IntelliSTAR- Pullman, WA- Sep. 23, 2013- 7:28AM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R7pjGuPVCQ#[/url])

I once saw a WeatherSTAR XL on this headend about 8 years ago  :yes:  back when the headend was still Adelphia. The XL was replaced with the IS when Time Warner acquired Adelphia in late 2005.

Before when TimeWarner Cable took over with the IntelliStar, by any chance did this XL have the version 3 graphics update? Or did they replace the XL shortly before the logo change on August 15 of that year?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 24, 2013, 06:26:21 PM
IntelliSTAR #26203, Pullman, WA. The headend is Time Warner Cable.

TWC IntelliSTAR- Pullman, WA- Sep. 23, 2013- 7:28AM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R7pjGuPVCQ#[/url])

I once saw a WeatherSTAR XL on this headend about 8 years ago  :yes:  back when the headend was still Adelphia. The XL was replaced with the IS when Time Warner acquired Adelphia in late 2005.

Before when TimeWarner Cable took over with the IntelliStar, by any chance did this XL have the version 3 graphics update? Or did they replace the XL shortly before the logo change on August 15 of that year?


I saw the XL in late August of 2005 and it did have the version 3 graphics.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 28, 2013, 04:26:05 PM
Sorry for double posting but I caught this rare CC report of fog and wind on my STAR 15 minutes ago:

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/star23550fogwindy_zpsf96d64da.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 05, 2013, 03:19:17 AM
Looks like there is a HiRAD outage right now. Both my domestic IS and Weatherscan are reporting no CC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 12, 2013, 02:48:17 AM
The 2:18AM ET squeezeback LF still doesn't seem to be showing CC conditions each time at the said time. Not sure if it's national or just only on my end. :unsure:

TWC Local on the 8's Squeezeback Error- Astoria, OR- Oct. 11, 2013- 11:18PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JikdGUj1ego#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 16, 2013, 07:44:30 PM
Wow, so apparently separate flavors still do exist on the IntelliStar. :o I caught an LF this morning with CC screen narration and no marine forecast, then another without CC narration and a marine forecast :wacko:

IntelliStar Tampa, FL - October 16, 2013 - 6:58 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeA8E8aBVV4#)

IntelliStar Tampa, FL - October 16, 2013 - 7:28 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cLRBoegrRs#)

Is there a reason that it's like this though? Is it just random? Because back in the day :28/:58 always had the same lineups iirc :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on October 16, 2013, 09:49:15 PM
Weather icons made its debut on October 8, 2013 from the official website, it looks very similar to The Weather Network in Canada. This icon will match when The Weather Channel makes big changes in November with brand-new graphics, Local on the 8s, and much more.

(http://s.imwx.com/v.20131006.214956/img/wxicon/120/32.png) - Sunny
(http://s.imwx.com/v.20131006.214956/img/wxicon/120/31.png) - Clear

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on October 17, 2013, 12:52:06 AM
Those are pretty simple icons. Know the horse has been beaten to death relentlessly in the past, but the XL icons were the perfect blend of simplicity and attractiveness. But as long as the message gets across, that's all most viewers care about. I wonder how the music will be affected by the changes?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on October 17, 2013, 01:29:44 PM
I don't think anyone knows yet?  :dunno: However on TWC's community feedback page "Weather All the Time" the smooth Jazz post has I think 16 likes 0 dislikes, and All Instrumental's no vocals 26 likes and 5 dislikes. However the post to bring back 2 minute forecasts has about 28 likes and 1 dislike. So the requests for all instrumental music and possibly smooth jazz and 2 minute forecasts are about tied. This is as of Yesterday around 4pm. So let's see what TWC does. Maybe they ignored the request for smooth jazz because they were busy with the relaunch coming up? So I think we have a lot of a better chance of getting are music back since this is all they really are focusing on right now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on October 17, 2013, 06:59:06 PM
Those are pretty simple icons. Know the horse has been beaten to death relentlessly in the past, but the XL icons were the perfect blend of simplicity and attractiveness. But as long as the message gets across, that's all most viewers care about. I wonder how the music will be affected by the changes?
I agree that the old XL icons showed more detail. I don't mind the icons that the IntelliStar/IntelliStar 2 currently use; I just think the XL ones looked a lot better. I also miss those 4000-style icons that TWC had back in the '90s whenever they would show their regional forecasts on their national segments. Ironically, the new weather.com icons kind of remind me of the graphics that Microsoft uses in their commercials as well Windows 8.  :o  I did some searching on their server, and it seems like they only have 47 icons (some of them are even duplicates of the same icons).
I don't think anyone knows yet?  :dunno: However on TWC's community feedback page "Weather All the Time" the smooth Jazz post has I think 16 likes 0 dislikes, and All Instrumental's no vocals 26 likes and 5 dislikes. However the post to bring back 2 minute forecasts has about 28 likes and 1 dislike. So the requests for all instrumental music and possibly smooth jazz and 2 minute forecasts are about tied. This is as of Yesterday around 4pm. So let's see what TWC does. Maybe they ignored the request for smooth jazz because they were busy with the relaunch coming up? So I think we have a lot of a better chance of getting are music back since this is all they really are focusing on right now.
As for bringing the two minute LFs back, I too would also agree. Especially on legacy STARs, because that it would show additional features. Even the IntelliStar/IntelliStar 2 would also show more features too. I just don't like how TWC is "dumbing down" their LFs. I also think the vocal music is annoying for the most part. They should bring back the smooth jazz and most of the non-vocal instrumentals back. Playing mainstream music just doesn't fit well with TWC. It's no wonder why I have been collecting classic TWC music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 17, 2013, 08:29:39 PM
Especially on legacy STARs, because that it would show additional features.
it wouldnt matter anyways cuz legacy STARs are gonna soon be a thing of the past
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Austin M. on October 17, 2013, 08:49:25 PM
I don't think anyone knows yet?  :dunno: However on TWC's community feedback page "Weather All the Time" the smooth Jazz post has I think 16 likes 0 dislikes, and All Instrumental's no vocals 26 likes and 5 dislikes. However the post to bring back 2 minute forecasts has about 28 likes and 1 dislike. So the requests for all instrumental music and possibly smooth jazz and 2 minute forecasts are about tied. This is as of Yesterday around 4pm. So let's see what TWC does. Maybe they ignored the request for smooth jazz because they were busy with the relaunch coming up? So I think we have a lot of a better chance of getting are music back since this is all they really are focusing on right now.


Activism does nothing in today's society. Well, most of the time, anyways.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Metarvo on October 17, 2013, 09:48:16 PM
It seems like no one listens anymore.  This is a trait that has pervaded our society.  The people who want 2-minute locals or instrumental-only playlists (myself included) unfortunately might be viewed by TWC as a fringe fanbase.  If the channel doesn't make any changes as a result of this poll, then the poll has been rendered a mere formality.  Will it be time for me to flip the channel to SonicTap once again for the umpteenth time to get my fix?

With that aside, the poll is a positive move.  If they are willing to listen to the loyal viewers, then maybe some of the issues will be sorted out.  Even with satellite LFs I would watch more if I could count on hearing some rare gems or seeing two (or even 1½) minutes worth of weather information.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on October 18, 2013, 03:32:29 AM
Those are pretty simple icons. Know the horse has been beaten to death relentlessly in the past, but the XL icons were the perfect blend of simplicity and attractiveness. But as long as the message gets across, that's all most viewers care about. I wonder how the music will be affected by the changes?

I agree that the old XL icons showed more detail. I don't mind the icons that the IntelliStar/IntelliStar 2 currently use; I just think the XL ones looked a lot better. I also miss those 4000-style icons that TWC had back in the '90s whenever they would show their regional forecasts on their national segments. Ironically, the new weather.com icons kind of remind me of the graphics that Microsoft uses in their commercials as well Windows 8.  :o  I did some searching on their server, and it seems like they only have 47 icons (some of them are even duplicates of the same icons).

it wouldnt matter anyways cuz legacy STARs are gonna soon be a thing of the past

I know I will certainly miss the XL after they change everything next month. TWC & my local forecast just won't be the same. I've been uploading the older XL video clips that I have to my Youtube channel. I had forgot about some of the good songs they used to play before they decided to go all mainstream on us.
Taking you back to 2010 here's 2 clips featuring songs that I'm sure we would all appreciate hearing during local forecasts..
http://www.youtube.com/v/mDHbnDtnKA0
http://www.youtube.com/v/DCjY92XJpFU
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 22, 2013, 11:23:19 PM
Looks like someone in the TWC graphics department forgot to drink their coffee this morning  :P  because as of today, a new sponsorship bug now has the blue box that is normally shown behind the Dish/DirecTV IntelliSTAR sponsorship bugs.

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/iswithsponsorshipbugbluebox_zpsa0925d7b.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on October 22, 2013, 11:32:07 PM
Looks like someone in the TWC graphics department forgot to drink their coffee this morning  :P  because as of today, a new sponsorship bug now has the blue box that is normally shown behind the Dish/DirecTV IntelliSTAR sponsorship bugs.

([url]http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/iswithsponsorshipbugbluebox_zpsa0925d7b.jpg[/url])
I saw that happen when I was on vacation in Virginia 2 years ago.. and there have also been times where the blue box doesn't show up for ads on the DirecTV STAR too

WTF is this... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvDDWaoAPYs#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 23, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
The fog icon made a rare appearance on my STAR's 7-day:

TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Oct. 23, 2013- 8:58AM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hwS-1HexMc#)

Looks like someone in the TWC graphics department forgot to drink their coffee this morning  :P  because as of today, a new sponsorship bug now has the blue box that is normally shown behind the Dish/DirecTV IntelliSTAR sponsorship bugs.

([url]http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/iswithsponsorshipbugbluebox_zpsa0925d7b.jpg[/url])
I saw that happen when I was on vacation in Virginia 2 years ago.. and there have also been times where the blue box doesn't show up for ads on the DirecTV STAR too

WTF is this... ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvDDWaoAPYs#[/url])


I've also seen the blue box on the regular STARs in the past, and the box has made appearances on the Dish STAR as well.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on October 24, 2013, 01:42:03 AM
So...does anyone have any insight to the changes to the Local on the 8's next month? It sort of sounds like it's going to have a new name--Weather All the Time. There's a strong emphasis on simplicity with this new debut, as well. I haven't bothered to sign up on weather.com for a preview, but maybe somebody on here knows what we can expect and can share with us.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on October 24, 2013, 04:02:59 AM
So...does anyone have any insight to the changes to the Local on the 8's next month? It sort of sounds like it's going to have a new name--Weather All the Time. There's a strong emphasis on simplicity with this new debut, as well. I haven't bothered to sign up on weather.com for a preview, but maybe somebody on here knows what we can expect and can share with us.

https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/90/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/90/) there's a video in there somewhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on October 24, 2013, 12:43:40 PM
So...does anyone have any insight to the changes to the Local on the 8's next month? It sort of sounds like it's going to have a new name--Weather All the Time. There's a strong emphasis on simplicity with this new debut, as well. I haven't bothered to sign up on weather.com for a preview, but maybe somebody on here knows what we can expect and can share with us.

https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/90/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/90/) there's a video in there somewhere.
The video that was originally posted by Martin is no longer available. I posted a link that will take you directly to the video of the LOT8s preview. https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg185912/#msg185912 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/new-graphics-coming-to-twc/msg185912/#msg185912)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on October 24, 2013, 12:45:20 PM
Or you can just go to YouTube and watch the preview:
The Weather Channel Weather All The Time Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sUJqtZNtkk#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on October 24, 2013, 12:52:38 PM
Or you can just go to YouTube and watch the preview:
The Weather Channel Weather All The Time Video ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sUJqtZNtkk#[/url])

I didn't think about checkin YT again since the audio had been halfway muted on the one that was posted a few weeks ago, and then it wasn't available anymore.  :bleh:  And BTW, thanks for subscribing to my YT channel!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on October 24, 2013, 02:49:33 PM
Nothing disappears from YouTube for long. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 10, 2013, 12:54:57 PM
TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Nov. 10, 2013- 9:28AM PST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ADZmzJX-HY#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 10, 2013, 02:07:52 PM
This is weird, but why on earth are there two ad bugs for Prospectors?  :wacko:

(http://i.imgur.com/N5wiFXH.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/3gF5JKZ.png)

Click for full size.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on November 16, 2013, 05:50:47 PM
I don't know what is up with the XL in my area. It has been looping the LF for nearly a hour and a half, with the exception of a few quick breaks where the live feed returned for a minute and then it resumed looping.  And then  a while later, it did some crazy flickering on screen that I had never seen before.
XL says "Screw Longform, I'm gonna show you the LF for a while and then be a strobe light! "
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 16, 2013, 09:14:25 PM
I don't know what is up with the XL in my area. It has been looping the LF for nearly a hour and a half, with the exception of a few quick breaks where the live feed returned for a minute and then it resumed looping.  And then  a while later, it did some crazy flickering on screen that I had never seen before.
XL says "Screw Longform, I'm gonna show you the LF for a while and then be a strobe light! "
Did it loop the two minute flavor?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on November 17, 2013, 09:34:29 AM
Did it loop the two minute flavor?
Yes, and it did a few other things I've never seen it do..
https://www.youtube.com/v/NT2cOfBMros
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 17, 2013, 12:11:17 PM
Did it loop the two minute flavor?
Yes, and it did a few other things I've never seen it do..
https://www.youtube.com/v/NT2cOfBMros
I love that strong storm icon, still my favorite XL icon out of all of them in the set.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on November 17, 2013, 03:10:54 PM
Pretty sure I just heard new music on the local forecast
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on November 17, 2013, 03:13:59 PM
They used the new WCL "red mode" production music during the last LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 17, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
New storm alert music huh? I wasn't expecting that. When did this start? I heard it for the first time a few minutes ago. I don't remember hearing this earlier this morning. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on November 17, 2013, 06:46:01 PM
New storm alert music huh? I wasn't expecting that. When did this start? I heard it for the first time a few minutes ago. I don't remember hearing this earlier this morning. :no:
It started exactly at 3:08 PM Eastern Time. Had TWC on all afternoon. To me TWC is watchable for once.  :bleh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on November 21, 2013, 09:40:33 AM
That was a interesting LF.. started out with the prod music for a few seconds, and then went to a different song for a few seconds and then changed again..  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on November 21, 2013, 01:07:46 PM
That was a interesting LF.. started out with the prod music for a few seconds, and then went to a different song for a few seconds and then changed again..  :thinking:
That happened to me on the 12th. It was silent then it went to some song which I swear had a jazz guitar sound then it went to something acoustic. Weird.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on November 24, 2013, 07:39:57 PM
Something's going on. IntelliStar showed the satellite feed, then cued late. Seems like they just sent out a mass update.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on November 24, 2013, 10:52:24 PM
The Weatherscan and IS computers are rebooting at the same time and it's happening about every 2min.
WeatherScan was showing the national TWC SD feed and TWC SD was showing the national LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 26, 2013, 09:21:01 AM
Did the XL have a "wintry mix to rain" icon? For some reason I faintly remember seeing one on air but don't have the icon and don't see footage of it anywhere...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on November 26, 2013, 09:48:59 AM
Did the XL have a "wintry mix to rain" icon? For some reason I faintly remember seeing one on air but don't have the icon and don't see footage of it anywhere...
I don't think so. Just a rain to snow and snow to rain.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 26, 2013, 06:50:10 PM
the new Weather Bulletins page with High Wind Warning and Flood Watch

Winter Storm Boreas Local Forecast: 11/26/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MblXHvwuVI#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on November 26, 2013, 08:11:57 PM
Did the XL have a "wintry mix to rain" icon? For some reason I faintly remember seeing one on air but don't have the icon and don't see footage of it anywhere...

I don't think so. Just a rain to snow and snow to rain.

Yes it does. Well, it just uses the "Wintry Mix" icon with a different label. I think any forecast condition involving wintry mix used that one icon. You'll see it used in two different ways in the clips below. The "wintry Mix to rain"  is used in the first clip below in The Week Ahead and the second video shows "Wintry Mix & Wind" with the same icon on the daypart forecast
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZxcPurLiouw

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http://www.youtube.com/v/MW-Vc-i6G-I
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on November 30, 2013, 12:22:28 AM
Just had a silent LF at 11:18 PM CST, at least for the national feed on my end.  No music, not even the chime to introduce the LF.  Was this problem on my end only, or have silent LFs happened before during longform?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 04, 2013, 03:30:34 PM
Does anyone know if TWC will even have a Christmas playlist? Or maybe just use holiday production stuff
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 06, 2013, 06:36:42 PM
The Weather Channel Top 10 Best Songs of 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kg31qkUtKo#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on December 08, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
Noticed on the 7:58 ET LOT8's the jingle played for the welcome screen then there was no music on the national HD feed and the SD IS feed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KwestMX2 on December 09, 2013, 11:10:34 PM
I Have Directv and i did you know that the LF is almost in sync? because right at the end i noticed that you get the regional forecast at the end from the National Forecast. and because i have DIRECTV i do have to watch it powered by my box.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 17, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
I wish vocals were back  :cry3:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KwestMX2 on December 18, 2013, 12:25:28 AM
if they do i want to see them try with R&B. Anita baker for example.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on December 18, 2013, 10:43:01 AM
I wish vocals were back  :cry3:
Woah, hold on there.  :wow: I know that the same 2 production songs are annoying but in my opinion this is 1000000000000000000000000++++++ to infinity percent better than that. If anything encourage them to bring back the old instrumentals. The vocals were torture. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on December 18, 2013, 08:16:53 PM
I wish vocals were back  :cry3:
Woah, hold on there.  :wow: I know that the same 2 production songs are annoying but in my opinion this is 1000000000000000000000000++++++ to infinity percent better than that. If anything encourage them to bring back the old instrumentals. The vocals were torture.

Vocals are here, people kvetch. Vocals go away, same people still kvetch. Curious...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 18, 2013, 08:20:37 PM
I wish vocals were back  :cry3:
Woah, hold on there.  :wow: I know that the same 2 production songs are annoying but in my opinion this is 1000000000000000000000000++++++ to infinity percent better than that. If anything encourage them to bring back the old instrumentals. The vocals were torture.

Vocals are here, people kvetch. Vocals go away, same people still kvetch. Curious...
You bet, it's a cycle xD
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 21, 2013, 07:47:22 PM
Local Forecasts in Storm Alert Mode 12/21/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbn6ryFaA4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 21, 2013, 10:15:54 PM
Looks like the Dish STAR is still cuing the old LOT8s bug on the satellite LF with the current graphics.

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/dishstarwithlot8sbug_zpsa49f2c23.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on December 21, 2013, 10:58:46 PM
Local Forecasts in Storm Alert Mode 12/21/13 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbn6ryFaA4#[/url])
So they can change the music for alert mode, but not for the holidays? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 22, 2013, 09:26:53 AM
For the past two LF's (and possibly longer) my IS has not been showing any current conditions. The Now screen has been blank, as has the left side of the Summary screen at the end of the LF. Furthermore, no current conditions have been appearing on the LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on December 22, 2013, 09:29:08 AM
For the past two LF's (and possibly longer) my IS has not been showing any current conditions. The Now screen has been blank, as has the left side of the Summary screen at the end of the LF. Furthermore, no current conditions have been appearing on the LDL.

Might be everyone affected, I have the same issue.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KwestMX2 on December 22, 2013, 05:26:00 PM
Local Forecasts in Storm Alert Mode 12/21/13 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbn6ryFaA4#[/url])
So they can change the music for alert mode, but not for the holidays? :rolleyes:


this music is also for the Weather Center Live reports if there's breaking news of severe weather in an area where its happening.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on December 23, 2013, 11:39:57 AM
Drizzle/Fog and Heavy Rain icons

New IntelliStar's Heavy Rain and Drizzle Icons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jACbAU6P6pY#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on December 24, 2013, 12:48:08 AM
For the past two LF's (and possibly longer) my IS has not been showing any current conditions. The Now screen has been blank, as has the left side of the Summary screen at the end of the LF. Furthermore, no current conditions have been appearing on the LDL.


Video:

Local Forecast - December 22, 2013 - 9:18am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5RsiFZm6lQ#)

Also notice the cutoff text and narration on the single local forecast slide, plus abundant buzzzzzzzing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on January 04, 2014, 11:31:54 PM
Weird my star unit at 11:18 said it was going to rise 30 degrees in 2 hours. 12 am was going to be 17
and clear and at 2 it said 51 and rain  :wow:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on January 05, 2014, 02:27:58 PM
I'm noticing my IS is about 5 seconds late to start the local forecast and the national plays and then it's 5 seconds late to end. Is this a known issue or should I report it in the WeatherStar section?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 14, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Looks like the WeatherSTAR 4000 up in Omak, WA is no more.  :(  I went to my grandmother's house earlier today in Grand Coulee and brought along my tuner, but I still saw national forecasts when I looked on channel 12 via the local Charter cable headend.

The last time I looked was back in August, and like today I did not see the 4000 back then, so it appears that the unit was not in an outage stage and is definitely gone for sure based on my discovery.  :cry:  :itsok:

Here is one of the satellite LFs that I recorded today:

TWC Satellite Local Forecast- Jan. 14, 2014- 3:28PM PST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWdePUBx-K8#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 28, 2014, 06:51:20 AM
Question: Has anyone ever heard or seen these phases on the text forecast before? :dunno:

"Lowering and thickening clouds. A steady snow developing as the day wears on." Skip to 0:28 to see it in the video.

Atlanta IntelliStar - WINTER STORM WARNING - January 28, 2014 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI-odax1ahc#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 30, 2014, 07:19:49 AM
i found the daypart error on the Summary screen.

New Bedford IntelliStar: 7 Day Outlook Glitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBrBcGIirVg#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 30, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
I've seen that numerous times, I'm curious what causes the lag in the update (with the icons)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 30, 2014, 11:39:48 AM
The satellite local bows has the boxes behind the cities on the radar/satellite maps, just like the cities on maps during live tv. Makes the cities easier to read.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on January 30, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
Couple of things:
On Tavores' video, it looks like TWC has now properly shortened Jackson's narrations so that they don't get cut-off anymore.  For example, the wind speeds were not narrated.
On Alex's video, has TWC changed the order of the screens so that the Hourly Forecast comes before the 36-hour (err, 24-hour) forecast like it was on the old IS, or is that part of the error?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 30, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
The satellite local bows has the boxes behind the cities on the radar/satellite maps, just like the cities on maps during live tv. Makes the cities easier to read.

It would help tremendously. Just like it would help if they didn't make the template for the weekend on the SD IS transparent because it's nearly impossible to read on a bright BG. It should be dark just like MON-FRI is. I think people have the common sense to be able to differentiate between the weekdays and the weekend w/o doing it the way it is now. (at least I hope they do...) :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on January 31, 2014, 01:11:12 AM
Local Forecasts in Storm Alert Mode 12/21/13 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbn6ryFaA4#[/url])

I actually really like this theme! Very nice

I'm noticing my IS is about 5 seconds late to start the local forecast and the national plays and then it's 5 seconds late to end. Is this a known issue or should I report it in the WeatherStar section?

I've heard of it happening before. Usually a unit reset fixes it. I'd pass it along to the support section if it's still occurring :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on January 31, 2014, 05:03:28 PM
Vocal Songs have returned to Local on The 8s
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 31, 2014, 06:12:46 PM
Vocal Songs have returned to Local on The 8s
Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm actually *glad* for once. I thought those two songs would be playing FOREVER. :o Still miss the instrumental/jazz stuff they have on
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 31, 2014, 06:13:00 PM
I had a feeling that the vocal music would return at some point  :rolleyes:  but I'm a bit surprised it took TWC this long to restore the vocal music after November's graphics update, I thought the network would do it almost right away.

Bummer that the vocal music is back.  :itsok:  The three production tracks were enjoyable while they lasted, even if they were being repeated over and over. Still beats vocal music IMO.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on February 01, 2014, 07:25:48 PM
I'm sure the staff at TWC finally realized that playing the same two production tracks over and over again gets really annoying. At least I still don't mind the long Dan Chandler narrations that they used to have back in the autumn of 1987. That only lasted for two months. :rofl:

http://www.twcclassics.com/files/updates/12-16-09/3000/unk7.flv (http://www.twcclassics.com/files/updates/12-16-09/3000/unk7.flv)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on February 02, 2014, 04:39:05 PM
Vocal Songs have returned to Local on The 8s
Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm actually *glad* for once. I thought those two songs would be playing FOREVER. :o Still miss the instrumental/jazz stuff they have on
Haha I feel ya! From what I gather it was an attempt to market their new branding and theme. There was always intent to bring back the regular music but I too am a bit surprised it took this long.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on February 02, 2014, 09:37:35 PM
Mattoon Intellistar on consolidated communications
https://www.youtube.com/v/Wlh8EAF_kAo
And yes, I still have the XL on Mediacom. I was at a friends house who had a different provider (Consolidated Communications), which has a IS on their system
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on February 16, 2014, 09:15:54 PM
Has anyone ever seen this wording on the text-based forecast?

Winter Storm Warning : WSXL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQNrR3dQLzM#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on February 16, 2014, 09:44:26 PM
"As we move through the night"?  Certainly not in the NWS-issued forecast days, but now that TWC is writing the forecasts, I suppose anything's possible.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 17, 2014, 01:29:37 PM
Looks like TWC finally got rid of the random jokes on the IS welcome screen as of today.

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/nogreetingsontheistar_zps9242b6ff.jpg)

Anybody else seeing "This is your weather" on their IS?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on February 17, 2014, 01:32:04 PM
Looks like TWC finally got rid of the random jokes on the IS welcome screen as of today.

([url]http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/nogreetingsontheistar_zpsc8cbdca1.jpg[/url])

Anybody else seeing "This is your weather" on their IS?
Is there a weather alert in effect for your area? If so, that's what you'll see instead of a joke.

Edit: Now that I've taken another look at it, I don't remember that message having a period before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 17, 2014, 01:35:08 PM
Looks like TWC finally got rid of the random jokes on the IS welcome screen as of today.

([url]http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/nogreetingsontheistar_zpsc8cbdca1.jpg[/url])

Anybody else seeing "This is your weather" on their IS?
Is there a weather alert in effect for your area? If so, that's what you'll see instead of a joke.


Not under any weather alert at the moment.  :no:  This is the only text that was shown on all the LFs as of this morning.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on February 17, 2014, 02:12:00 PM
Hmm, Mine said at 2:08 PM EST,

Mt. Holly,
Food.
Sleep.
Weather

 :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 17, 2014, 07:33:46 PM
The jokes have returned to my IS welcome screen as I just saw one at 4:28PM PT. Not sure why my IS was just showing only "This is your weather" earlier today.  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on February 17, 2014, 10:59:03 PM
As short as the local forecasts already are, I think the clock and jokes are a tremendous waste of time.  They're completely, totally, wholly, thoroughly unnecessary. :club:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on February 19, 2014, 12:47:31 PM
Something weird happened on the last LF on my IS2. At the end of the LF, after the summary page, it went right back to the first page of the 24-hour forecast. The rundown bar at the bottom of the screen has the summary icon, but no text next to it. After that, the graphics overlapped with the satellite LF for a split second, then rather than the "window" sliding up until it disappeared, it slid to the left and out of the screen.

Has anyone ever seen this happen?

EDIT: Here's a video of the error. It's not the exact same LF, but it does show what I'm talking about.
Odd Error on IntelliStar 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6vUNoZiMaY#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 19, 2014, 09:01:06 PM
From that video there is so much space on the right side. they could have Current Conditions for up to 2 cities in that whole spot.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on February 19, 2014, 09:31:50 PM
From that video there is so much space on the right side. they could have Current Conditions for up to 2 cities in that whole spot.

I agree.  The local forecast segments are formatted specifically for 4:3, and the extra space in widescreen is left completely unused.  The local forecasts are already very lacking in products because they're only 60 seconds long now, and there's so much of the screen that has nothing except a pretty picture.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on February 19, 2014, 10:38:11 PM
From that video there is so much space on the right side. they could have Current Conditions for up to 2 cities in that whole spot.

I agree.  The local forecast segments are formatted specifically for 4:3, and the extra space in widescreen is left completely unused.  The local forecasts are already very lacking in products because they're only 60 seconds long now, and there's so much of the screen that has nothing except a pretty picture.

Yeah, the fact that the HD forecasts have all that wasted space just baffles my mind.  I thought the whole purpose of HD was to have that extra space be used for something.  An added bonus.  That blank space is just taking the bonus away.  I would rather see them extend the boxes to fill the screen than put a sidebar or something there.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 19, 2014, 11:23:36 PM
Hmm, Mine said at 2:08 PM EST,

Mt. Holly,
Food.
Sleep.
Weather

 :no:
Woah woah woah, since when was 21865's CC city changed to Mount Holly?! I know for a fact that's served my my STAR 21872... 21865 serves the river side communities between Delran and Bordentown. I know before the WATT relaunch the city was Burlington, which was far more appropriate.

Also, I noticed some of my radar cities were altered today.  Anyone else encountered any changes to theirs?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on February 20, 2014, 06:54:01 AM
Hmm, Mine said at 2:08 PM EST,

Mt. Holly,
Food.
Sleep.
Weather

 :no:
Woah woah woah, since when was 21865's CC city changed to Mount Holly?! I know for a fact that's served my my STAR 21872... 21865 serves the river side communities between Delran and Bordentown. I know before the WATT relaunch the city was Burlington, which was far more appropriate.

Also, I noticed some of my radar cities were altered today.  Anyone else encountered any changes to theirs?
I know. That sucked because I could get conditions for Bordentown on the bottom of the screen.  :cry: Now it says Cinnaminson and Joint Base MDL? What's the purpose. I also notice that a lot of commercials are being overlaid on top of WATT.
Also on 11/12/13 it went from Burlington to Mt. Holly with the LDL cities still normal but after about a month or so it changed to MOUNT HOLLY and it looks like that 21872 now serves Bordentown. It also did from to my knowledge 2006-2008.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 20, 2014, 10:33:14 AM
Sounds to me like Comcast combined our two headends, which probably explains why my radars/maps were shifted to focus more on Mt Holly as opposed to Fort Dix.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on February 20, 2014, 03:10:57 PM
I also notice that a lot of commercials are being overlaid on top of WATT.
Maybe your cable headend might be cueing local commercials during the commercial break. Most cable companies had been doing this since the dawn of cable television. If the headend stopped cuing local commercials during the commercial break, you would have seen the WATT bar uninterrupted. Most cable companies also do this on CNBC during the stock market coverage. Whenever a local commercial is cued on CNBC, the cable system interrupts the stock ticker. The same thing also happens on all of the ESPN networks. Whenever a local cable commercial is cued on one of the ESPN channels, the "Bottom Line" score ticker also gets interrupted during the local commercials before returning to the main national feed.
TWC had always been like that since the WeatherStar III era back in the '80s. Whenever any STAR model receives a local severe weather message (Watches/Warnings/Advisories, etc.), the cable company could interrupt the severe weather crawl or scroll every time a local commercial is cued. Local EAS alerts are like that too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on February 20, 2014, 05:19:57 PM
Where's the "like" button for that post? :biggrin:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: HulkieD on February 21, 2014, 01:50:15 PM
First time I've been getting the generic "This is your weather" on my IS.  Then again, we're in tornado watch and severe thunderstorm warning for the first time since WATT began.

Also, my basemaps are now the correct color.  Finally.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on February 21, 2014, 02:31:28 PM
First time I've been getting the generic "This is your weather" on my IS.  Then again, we're in tornado watch and severe thunderstorm warning for the first time since WATT began.

Also, my basemaps are now the correct color.  Finally.  :P
Took long enough. :P Mine didn't convert until near the end of last month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on February 21, 2014, 04:32:28 PM
Where's the "like" button for that post? :biggrin:
About my rant about the local cable commercials interrupting the WATT bar? That would have been a nice feature to these forums. :yes:
Either way, it's no wonder why cable companies are getting too much ad revenue. That might be one of the reasons why our monthly bills are rising.  :wall:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on March 04, 2014, 06:06:08 PM
As of this afternoon, my STAR's regional radar map has been updated:

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/astoriaorstarradar20140304_zpsf3d1d8a1.jpg)

Hoquiam and Olympia have been removed, and Ocean Park, Seaside, and Goldendale have been added. I've yet to see what the local radar map looks like.

EDIT: The local radar map was also changed:

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/astoriaorstarlocalradar20140304_zps66727b45.jpg)

Vernonia, Cannon Beach, South Bend and Cathlamet have been removed, and Castle Rock has been added.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 04, 2014, 10:06:37 PM
The town of Dahlonega, GA was added to the regional radar map (replacing Helen, GA) in my area. I think the radar may have been shifted south some too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on March 05, 2014, 08:26:50 PM
The cities on my IntelliStar's radar have been altered as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 11, 2014, 12:08:48 PM
East Hampton, NY was added to my Regional Radar recently.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on March 11, 2014, 05:10:59 PM
I don't know if this is related to the radar change, but on my IS2hd's radar, Mcallen has changed to McAlllen which is the correct way to spell McAllen. Barely noticed today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 12, 2014, 11:00:15 AM
Atlanta's IS unit must be down, my LF is coming from Marietta instead... :huh: :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 12, 2014, 05:31:27 PM
Atlanta's IS unit must be down, my LF is coming from Marietta instead... :huh: :dunno:

6 hours later it's back to normal.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 14, 2014, 07:13:59 PM
Anyone with satellite noticing issues with the SD LF? The SD LF is zoomed in too far towards the top left and it's been like that for nearly an hour now. It's only the LF that's zoomed in too far, everything else is ok especially when programming is on. I can't be the only one :huh:

EDIT: Seems to have been fixed now
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on March 16, 2014, 07:37:33 PM
I've noticed my Intellistar 2 is not narrating the CC screen. It occasionally will narrate it but sometimes won't
  :hmm: I'm not sure what it is
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on March 25, 2014, 10:45:47 AM
My first XL sighting! :thrilled:
Greetings from Pipestem State Park in WV!

I'll make sure to upload a video later. I can't right now, cause the wifi here is too slow.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on March 25, 2014, 05:05:34 PM
Was this XL from a hotel?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on March 25, 2014, 05:18:47 PM
Was this XL from a hotel?
No, this was from a cottage in Pipestem Resort State Park.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 26, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
New Bedford's new Metro Radar
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on March 29, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
My first XL sighting! :thrilled:
Greetings from Pipestem State Park in WV!

I'll make sure to upload a video later. I can't right now, cause the wifi here is too slow.

Here's the video!
Weather Star XL Bluefield/Princeton, WV 3/25/2014 8:48 AM ET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ta9vfHstos#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on April 01, 2014, 06:39:37 AM
TWC Changed the clock on the LDL from showing only the time to scrolling the temperature.
Seems like my IntelliStar only had it, Not my IS2
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 01, 2014, 12:31:04 PM
TWC Changed the clock on the LDL from showing only the time to scrolling the temperature.
Seems like my IntelliStar only had it, Not my IS2

I'm seeing this on my STAR's LDL as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on April 01, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
TWC Changed the clock on the LDL from showing only the time to scrolling the temperature.
Seems like my IntelliStar only had it, Not my IS2

I'm seeing this on my STAR's LDL as well.
Didn't it always do this? I thought I remember seeing a while back of it showing the time and scroll to the temperature?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mightynine on April 01, 2014, 03:02:47 PM
Didn't it always do this? I thought I remember seeing a while back of it showing the time and scroll to the temperature?

It was shown in the teaser video before the launch of the new graphics that it would, but it didn't go into effect until today.

It's also active on the Cox IS in New Orleans.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on April 01, 2014, 07:39:24 PM
Didn't it always do this? I thought I remember seeing a while back of it showing the time and scroll to the temperature?

It was shown in the teaser video before the launch of the new graphics that it would, but it didn't go into effect until today.

It's also active on the Cox IS in New Orleans.
The IntelliStar had always been like this since the V1 era ten years ago. Even the XL once had a dual time/temp display back when they supported the black bar LDL on the XL. Since V3 came out on the IntelliStar and V2 on the IS2, I wonder if the IntelliStar still displays only the clock whenever it shows a severe weather crawl message? The IS had always displayed only the time, but not the temperature whenever it displays a severe weather crawl message. I'm not sure whether or not if the IS2 does this since I've never seen one in person.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Steve-O on April 01, 2014, 11:49:17 PM
TWC Changed the clock on the LDL from showing only the time to scrolling the temperature.
Seems like my IntelliStar only had it, Not my IS2

'bout time...I've been wondering when it would happen.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mightynine on April 02, 2014, 10:29:17 AM
Cox New Orleans IS2 (sorry, don't know the ID) also has the scrolling time/temp now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 03, 2014, 02:29:18 AM
the New Bedford IS also has this but it only shows the primary cities temps on the clock, i just wish it showed the secondary cities LDL temps like the '10 version of the IS.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on April 03, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
Has anyone ever seen this phrase of the text forecast? (Sorry for the poor photo quality.)
"Showers early with mainly sunny skies later in the day as drier air moves in on gusty breezes."
I've never seen that phrase on the IS before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on April 03, 2014, 08:31:21 PM
Has anyone ever seen this phrase of the text forecast? (Sorry for the poor photo quality.)
"Showers early with mainly sunny skies later in the day as drier air moves in on gusty breezes."
I've never seen that phrase on the IS before.
Woah, that nearly takes up the whole page on your Intellistar!  That's a strange phrase! :rofl2:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on April 03, 2014, 10:22:34 PM
Does TWC stop using those jokes and comments on the IS and IS2 local forecast intro page during severe weather or just stop them in the areas effected?

Though I'm not in a severe weather area I am still getting those comments on my IS.
They should really turn them off during severe weather coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on April 03, 2014, 10:58:13 PM
Does TWC stop using those jokes and comments on the IS and IS2 local forecast intro page during severe weather or just stop them in the areas effected?

Though I'm not in a severe weather area I am still getting those comments on my IS.
They should really turn them off during severe weather coverage.
Agree completely. Severe weather isn't a joke, and TWC shouldn't make it one with the pre-LOT8's jokes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 14, 2014, 07:32:16 AM
what the IntelliStar looks like with no Local Forecast and extended summary.

IntelliStar local forecast: 24hr local missing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Fk-uEdAyk#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on April 14, 2014, 11:36:50 AM
Huh, haven't heard that version of the Local on The 8s chime before.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 27, 2014, 10:04:47 AM
This was on the latest The Front survey! hope this means Jazz is coming soon.

Jazz Returning? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KwiaHD3FcM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on April 27, 2014, 11:50:59 AM
This was on the latest The Front survey! hope this means Jazz is coming soon.

Jazz Returning? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KwiaHD3FcM#[/url])


Are you sure this not edited? what was the survey about?

Edit: TWC is considering going back to jazz music. I took the survey. FINALLY!! :worship:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on April 28, 2014, 06:25:47 PM
Just for those wondering what the survey videos were, you can see them right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uocsym0leKQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uocsym0leKQ)

*This is off topic but why can't I embed the video?*
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 29, 2014, 07:42:38 AM
Just for those wondering what the survey videos were, you can see them right here.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uocsym0leKQ[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uocsym0leKQ[/url])

*This is off topic but why can't I embed the video?*


take the s out of http:// and the video will be embedded

The Weather Channel Proposed Local On The 8s Music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uocsym0leKQ#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on May 03, 2014, 07:40:38 AM
Anyone else's Intellistar not showing The Current Conditions? It's happening again..... :( :rolleyes: :club: Oh well....
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 05, 2014, 09:59:28 AM
Is anyone's IntelliStar LDL off during programming? i'm seeing national information but the IntelliStar LF cues. Also for anyone who has the IS2 did this occur before the upgrade?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on May 05, 2014, 11:12:15 AM
Not seeing the local programming LDL on my STAR, just the clock/temperature box.

EDIT: The local LDL is back as of 8:20AM PT.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 07, 2014, 12:47:00 AM
found this on an airline survey site
http://www.visitdelaware.com/includes/content/images/media/images/Frontier-Terminal.jpg (http://www.visitdelaware.com/includes/content/images/media/images/Frontier-Terminal.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 15, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
TWC changed the daypart times for the playlist:

Morning: 4am - 11am
Daytime 11am-8pm (pre-2009)
Evening 8pm-4am

They eliminated the overnight playlist essentially, which made sense since it was only running for one hour anyways last year
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 17, 2014, 08:24:26 AM
Is there a link to the actual survey, by any chance? I didn't see one by Googling it, either.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on May 19, 2014, 08:02:32 PM
New IntelliSTAR 2 Junior in Grand Coulee, WA:

TWC IntelliSTAR 2 Junior- Grand Coulee, WA- May 19, 2014- 2:48PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59EEKk0Jfpg#)

This unit replaced a WeatherSTAR 4000 (Omak) which I last saw over 7 years ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on May 20, 2014, 02:40:40 PM
Has anyone seen this wording on the text forecast? I'm pretty sure this is how it went.
"Scattered thunderstorms, some locally strong to perhaps severe."
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 20, 2014, 11:47:11 PM
I've never heard that one before. I've noticed some peculiar phrases lately, too. I think they may be modified because of the shorter local forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on May 21, 2014, 01:16:04 AM
New IntelliSTAR 2 Junior in Grand Coulee, WA:

TWC IntelliSTAR 2 Junior- Grand Coulee, WA- May 19, 2014- 2:48PM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59EEKk0Jfpg#[/url])

This unit replaced a WeatherSTAR 4000 (Omak) which I last saw over 7 years ago.

Dang, another legacy STAR bit the dust. Vala's 4000 from Litchfield, IL also got replaced with a IntelliStar 2 Jr. (or whatever TWC calls it).
http://www.taiganet.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3208&st=0&#entry38329 (http://www.taiganet.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3208&st=0&#entry38329)
The same thing happened down in Hannibal, MO too (former XL location). I wonder if TWC officially stopped supporting the legacy STARs?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ruhgster on May 21, 2014, 09:10:35 AM
New IntelliSTAR 2 Junior in Grand Coulee, WA:

TWC IntelliSTAR 2 Junior- Grand Coulee, WA- May 19, 2014- 2:48PM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59EEKk0Jfpg#[/url])

This unit replaced a WeatherSTAR 4000 (Omak) which I last saw over 7 years ago.

Dang, another legacy STAR bit the dust. Vala's 4000 from Litchfield, IL also got replaced with a IntelliStar 2 Jr. (or whatever TWC calls it).
[url]http://www.taiganet.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3208&st=0&#entry38329[/url] ([url]http://www.taiganet.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3208&st=0&#entry38329[/url])
The same thing happened down in Hannibal, MO too (former XL location). I wonder if TWC officially stopped supporting the legacy STARs?


Looks like that is becoming the case very soon
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/4000xljr-the-end-is-near/ (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/local-forecast/4000xljr-the-end-is-near/)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on May 22, 2014, 01:30:25 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but I've hearing just the production music on the LFs today. Does this mean the vocal music is gone?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 22, 2014, 02:33:53 PM
I highly doubt that. If anything, maybe they're picking some new songs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 22, 2014, 02:40:06 PM
I thought I was the only one...I been hearing nothing but the two production music songs all day today. I hope it means vocals are gone
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 22, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
I can also confirm that I have only been hearing the two production songs on the LFs today.  My guess is that it's probably for severe weather coverage.  But they're not using the alert production theme, just the two others.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 22, 2014, 11:11:38 PM
I can also confirm that I have only been hearing the two production songs on the LFs today.  My guess is that it's probably for severe weather coverage.  But they're not using the alert production theme, just the two others.

There was Severe Coverage on recently and they had Vocals on so i would think it may have to do something with the recent survey which ended earlier this month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on May 23, 2014, 01:37:22 AM
I can also confirm that I have only been hearing the two production songs on the LFs today.  My guess is that it's probably for severe weather coverage.  But they're not using the alert production theme, just the two others.

There was Severe Coverage on recently and they had Vocals on so i would think it may have to do something with the recent survey which ended earlier this month.
Yea because today is a spotty severe weather day. If they were in storm alert, they would've used the storm alert music. Plus they went to long form as normal. Also did you notice how the march list lasted about 3 months! They should of changed it between 5/5 - 5/9. This is interesting. I'll email one of the PR executives.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 23, 2014, 09:02:02 AM
Quote
so i would think it may have to do something with the recent survey which ended earlier this month

Was the survey even issued by TWC? Some people think the survey was just a rumor and that those videos were just someone wanting attention.

If TWC did in fact stop the vocals due to severe weather, then that tells me they're ashamed of them.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 23, 2014, 09:43:28 AM
Quote
so i would think it may have to do something with the recent survey which ended earlier this month

Was the survey even issued by TWC? Some people think the survey was just a rumor and that those videos were just someone wanting attention.

If TWC did in fact stop the vocals due to severe weather, then that tells me they're ashamed of them.

it was issued by TWC's The Front Panel (https://www.thefrontpanel.com/Portal/default.aspx) so i wonder what the final results of the survey are!  :D

also i noticed this during one of the locals this morning, would you rather see this sidebar during the 8s?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on May 23, 2014, 10:20:32 AM
Well, I'll be... I hope you all voted for instrumental/jazz, etc. Unfortunately, it won't let me participate in the survey at this time.

I think the sidebar would clash with the pretty background.  :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on May 23, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
I think the sidebar would clash with the pretty background.  :P


I totally agree! i just wish TWC could revert back to the previous version of the IS2

Also i caught an error this morning

IntelliStar 2 Narration Failure New Bedford, MA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RIATIZhA48#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 23, 2014, 12:25:26 PM
I emailed Melissa and she told me she had no idea of the survey or the music changes on the LOT8s. It could just be a fluke but if most people voted for C (production music), then well there's your answer...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on May 23, 2014, 12:45:12 PM
I think the sidebar would clash with the pretty background.  :P


I totally agree! i just wish TWC could revert back to the previous version of the IS2

Also i caught an error this morning

IntelliStar 2 Narration Failure New Bedford, MA ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RIATIZhA48#ws[/url])


Now Jim knows what it's like to be cut off.

:run:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on May 24, 2014, 12:02:12 PM
Interesting that the IS1 & IS2 LF have the patriotic theme background yet the National LF does not have that today. Unless they are waiting for Monday?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on May 26, 2014, 05:56:56 PM
Interesting that the IS1 & IS2 LF have the patriotic theme background yet the National LF does not have that today. Unless they are waiting for Monday?

Looks like you were right btw.

____________________________________________________________________________________

Something must of been wrong with the IS unit for Atlanta because were getting the feed from Marietta instead. This is the second time in 6 months this has happened.

It actually brings me to my next question: Don't major airports around the country have their own IntelliStar units? Shouldn't Atlanta's back up IntelliStar unit be coming from Hartsfield Int'l Airport instead of Marietta, GA which is well over an hour away from where I live? It used to years ago (pre 2008).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on May 28, 2014, 01:56:56 PM
An update on the music situation

Quote
Thanks for your note. As you know from our survey, we are  exploring options to provide the best local product so we are featuring different music. I am not certain about the final choices  but know the team is considering it.

thanks,
David

Also I asked about is jazz likely to return and they said they are considering it. No Lie! Speculate all you want.

Here is the original message I sent
Quote
I've noticed only the 2 production songs were playing all day today. Is this permanent or a place holder? Also is jazz likely to return? I've seen it on the survey.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 28, 2014, 02:53:21 PM
Who did you contact? Mind messaging me the contact?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on May 28, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
Who did you contact? Mind messaging me the contact?
I emailed David Blumenthal. He is a PR executive. Basically Melissa but I think higher up.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 03, 2014, 09:55:28 PM
NEVER BEFORE SEEN INTELLISTAR - Will try to get on a tv tuner later this month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ec-mwI-uaw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ec-mwI-uaw)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 08, 2014, 10:56:09 AM
@freddyflaxman @Gt1racer Hi Alex! We are still investigating our path forward with music during Lot8s.  We don't have a timeline for any changes quite yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on June 08, 2014, 09:43:29 PM
They keep saying "We're still looking into what music will fit best on the LOT8's." As much as I want jazz back, I don't expect them to change the music anytime soon.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on June 09, 2014, 10:04:38 PM
I highly doubt the jazz music is ever coming back. A sign of corporate neglect from Comcast/NBC.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 10, 2014, 10:17:42 AM
Has anyone seen the changes to the IS2jr's LF yet?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 10, 2014, 10:52:19 AM
Has anyone seen the changes to the IS2jr's LF yet?
No. still the same. Mine rebooted at 3:10AM CT, but that's it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 10, 2014, 09:54:20 PM
Wow, a ton of broken promises from TWC regarding the LOT8s.  Analog signal with legacy STARs remains, no graphics update to the IS Jr, and no music changes.  Since the sources where you all got this information seem to be reasonable, this either means that TWC couldn't care less about this aspect of their station anymore, or that they're giving BS answers to their viewers about date changes, future plans, etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 10, 2014, 10:01:23 PM
Wow, a ton of broken promises from TWC regarding the LOT8s.  Analog signal with legacy STARs remains, no graphics update to the IS Jr, and no music changes.  Since the sources where you all got this information seem to be reasonable, this either means that TWC couldn't care less about this aspect of their station anymore, or that they're giving BS answers to their viewers about date changes, future plans, etc.
This is very disappointing. I thought TWC Actually started to care again. :cry:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on June 10, 2014, 10:10:27 PM
I for one can say, having worked for large companies can see that things like this are on the to-do list up on the white board.. and things come up that either delay or shelve items on that to-do list. It generally doesn't mean the items have fallen off the list, but not working with their company on a day-to-day basis, I am not sure what they are tasked with. For all we know, members of the Star team are overwhelmed by building configs for HD stars and other things are told to wait. They have a very talented group of people, but at the end of the day, there are only so many hours to work on improvements / configs / deadlines / due dates / etc. As with telling viewers insider information, they aren't obligated to answer such answers (like deadlines, or due dates), and I would feel the same. Viewers (or customers) only need to know what they need to know.

My 2 cents :)

Wow, a ton of broken promises from TWC regarding the LOT8s.  Analog signal with legacy STARs remains, no graphics update to the IS Jr, and no music changes.  Since the sources where you all got this information seem to be reasonable, this either means that TWC couldn't care less about this aspect of their station anymore, or that they're giving BS answers to their viewers about date changes, future plans, etc.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 11, 2014, 10:30:56 AM
I have received confirmation through a tweet that "vocals have been permanently removed"
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 11, 2014, 12:29:30 PM
As of about an hour ago, my areas IS2jr updated to the current gfx set
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 11, 2014, 12:41:56 PM
As of about an hour ago, my areas IS2jr updated to the current gfx set
Can you upload a video of it please?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on June 11, 2014, 03:33:10 PM
I have received confirmation through a tweet that "vocals have been permanently removed"
YES!!!!  :dance: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on June 11, 2014, 04:47:00 PM
It's great that vocals have been permanently removed, but hopefully that doesn't mean they'll keep the same two production songs forever.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: spinnerwv on June 11, 2014, 05:06:31 PM
here is the link to the updated IS2 Jr graphics http://youtu.be/0UyxUme-UlQ (http://youtu.be/0UyxUme-UlQ)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on June 11, 2014, 05:12:24 PM
It's great that vocals have been permanently removed, but hopefully that doesn't mean they'll keep the same two production songs forever.
Well they also said that they plan to bring music back, options include jazz but also other music types are being considered. Maybe they'll include jazz with other instrumental formats. Me personally would like the 2009-2011 Lo8s format but with more jazz in primetime, which everyone complained about.  :lol: Those years IMO had a perfect mix of jazz with other catchy instrumental tunes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 11, 2014, 05:59:07 PM
New IS2 Flavor that's been airing since 5:28pm

IntelliStar II: New Flavor 6/11/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NkCReHrE0#ws)

New Bedford IS2: Weird flavor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRgMYu90BOU#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on June 11, 2014, 06:20:41 PM
New IS2 Flavor that's been airing since 5:28pm

IntelliStar II: New Flavor 6/11/14 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NkCReHrE0#ws[/url])

New Bedford IS2: Weird flavor ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRgMYu90BOU#ws[/url])

Looks like it's an error. Although the radar showing twice would be nice!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on June 11, 2014, 06:53:43 PM
here is the link to the updated IS2 Jr graphics [url]http://youtu.be/0UyxUme-UlQ[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/0UyxUme-UlQ[/url])

It looks better than the Intellistar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on June 11, 2014, 06:59:12 PM
It's great that vocals have been permanently removed, but hopefully that doesn't mean they'll keep the same two production songs forever.
Not to mention the third production song that's used only for "Storm Alert" coverage.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 11, 2014, 07:19:47 PM
here is the link to the updated IS2 Jr graphics [url]http://youtu.be/0UyxUme-UlQ[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/0UyxUme-UlQ[/url])

It looks better than the Intellistar.


It appears the IS Jr. is using the same transitions as the IS2, instead of the IS.  Does the mean the analog signal is gone, too, or are the XLs and 4000s still around?

New IS2 Flavor that's been airing since 5:28pm

IntelliStar II: New Flavor 6/11/14 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NkCReHrE0#ws[/url])

New Bedford IS2: Weird flavor ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRgMYu90BOU#ws[/url])

Looks like it's an error. Although the radar showing twice would be nice!


Yeah, especially in the first video, that thing seems to be glitching like crazy.  IF this is a new flavor, though, I don't like it.  Why put the time and welcome screen at the end, and why show the radar twice?  The radar is already shown again on the summary page.  Use the extra time for another screen.  Maybe this is something they're experimenting with, who knows.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ruhgster on June 11, 2014, 07:34:55 PM
It appears the IS Jr. is using the same transitions as the IS2, instead of the IS.  Does the mean the analog signal is gone, too, or are the XLs and 4000s still around?

I don't think that assumption can be made, it only means the IS2jr is programmed more like the IS2 than the IS, and this would be the same reason its old graphics were the same as the IS2's old graphics.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 11, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
As of about an hour ago, my areas IS2jr updated to the current gfx set

Can you upload a video of it please?

Here's the clip I just uploaded of the IS2jr
http://www.youtube.com/v/sVo_ifaSFB4

I'll still miss the XL though.
Farewell, WSXL
https://www.youtube.com/v/ZxcPurLiouw
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 11, 2014, 09:03:10 PM
No changes made to the radar or flavors on my end.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 11, 2014, 11:42:52 PM
I have received confirmation through a tweet that "vocals have been permanently removed"

I believe that statement about as much as I can jump off the roof of my house and start flying. The vocals may disappear for a while, whether it be months, or a number of years, but they'll be back again. They're always gonna keep "experimenting". :rolleyes: I'm curious why after nearly 2 1/2 years they "suddenly" want to go in a new direction with their selection of music again. I doubt it's because viewers complained, it wouldn't have taken this long to make changes again.

Speaking of the LF in general, when are they ever going to come to the table about adding more forecast products? I don't mind the LFs being 1 minute long, but for pete sakes add some freakin' variety to the lineup already. Throw in some metro/regional maps, almanac, climate data, something! I'm not saying they should cram all of that into 1 minute, but it wouldn't hurt to have each LF display different information throughout the hour like it used to be.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 12, 2014, 02:18:50 PM
Glad to hear the vocal music is finally gone.  :happy:  I don't mind hearing the two production songs (plus the storm alert music) play over and over again, but I would like to hear more instrumental music, and if all possible, smooth jazz. I guess we'll all have to wait and see what TWC does next on the music situation, won't we?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 12, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
As of 5am this morning the New Bedford IS2 disappeared and has been MIA since :( maybe it is after effects of the massive error that occurred last night.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 13, 2014, 12:06:28 PM
Really, TWC?  :rolleyes:  These graphics scare me more than Friday the 13th!  :lol:

Weather Channel SD and HD LOT8s with Friday the 13th graphics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jsatOifaYs#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 13, 2014, 12:22:49 PM
Really, TWC?  :rolleyes:  These graphics scare me more than Friday the 13th!  :lol:

Weather Channel SD and HD LOT8s with Friday the 13th graphics ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jsatOifaYs#ws[/url])


WHY in the :censored: world does TWC consider Friday the 13th a holiday?!  It's not!  It was even on their "Holiday countdown" wheel.  Ugh.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jrhtwc on June 13, 2014, 12:58:45 PM
Really, TWC?  :rolleyes:  These graphics scare me more than Friday the 13th!  :lol:

Weather Channel SD and HD LOT8s with Friday the 13th graphics ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jsatOifaYs#ws[/url])


WHY in the :censored: world does TWC consider Friday the 13th a holiday?!  It's not!  It was even on their "Holiday countdown" wheel.  Ugh.


Just saw a local forecast, why is this a problem?????? It's looks fine to me.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 13, 2014, 01:16:39 PM
Really, TWC?  :rolleyes:  These graphics scare me more than Friday the 13th!  :lol:

Weather Channel SD and HD LOT8s with Friday the 13th graphics ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jsatOifaYs#ws[/url])


WHY in the :censored: world does TWC consider Friday the 13th a holiday?!  It's not!  It was even on their "Holiday countdown" wheel.  Ugh.

Actually, when TWC Was in storm alert, my IS2's ldl and sidebar didn't pop up, and Friday the 13th was on the countdown wheel.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 13, 2014, 03:01:51 PM
That explains the BG of the salt shaker lying flat on a table I saw this morning. I thought that was a strange BG, I forgot today was Friday the 13th at the time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on June 13, 2014, 03:04:24 PM
Really, TWC?  :rolleyes:  These graphics scare me more than Friday the 13th!  :lol:

Weather Channel SD and HD LOT8s with Friday the 13th graphics ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jsatOifaYs#ws[/url])

To be fair, I actually kind of like that black cat background. Those random backgrounds kind of reminds me of what TWC did back around 1986-87 with the random backgrounds for the WeatherSTAR III. Ironically, I also have a real black cat as a pet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TV Shows Fan on June 13, 2014, 09:24:17 PM
I like the backgrounds being used today. :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 13, 2014, 10:00:47 PM
I have not been getting those backgrounds on my STAR today, or the cat graphic. :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 13, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
WHY in the :censored: world does TWC consider Friday the 13th a holiday?!  It's not!  It was even on their "Holiday countdown" wheel.  Ugh.
It's not only Friday the 13th, it's also a full moon. Hasn't happened in 98 years, won't happen for another 35... ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 13, 2014, 11:16:36 PM
Really, TWC?  :rolleyes:  These graphics scare me more than Friday the 13th!  :lol:

Weather Channel SD and HD LOT8s with Friday the 13th graphics ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jsatOifaYs#ws[/url])

To be fair, I actually kind of like that black cat background. Those random backgrounds kind of reminds me of what TWC did back around 1986-87 with the random backgrounds for the WeatherSTAR III. Ironically, I also have a real black cat as a pet.

This. I like what they're doing for all these holidays. It gives the LF a more personalized or homey feel.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 14, 2014, 05:04:10 AM
New Bedford IntelliStar: High Rip Current Risk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj1ou2VoPzE#ws)

New Bedford IntelliStar 2: Multiple Alerts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgIy4jqvKrA#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 18, 2014, 10:15:21 PM
HiRAD appears to be down right now. Weatherscan is using it's alternative observation site on the sidebar, and my domestic IntelliStar is showing blank current conditions, text forecast, and daypart screens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cljl67s0LQw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cljl67s0LQw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9daK88GZwk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9daK88GZwk)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 19, 2014, 05:03:19 AM
as of 4am my IS2 has only been showing the CC page and the Regional Doppler at the tail end of the LF.

IntelliStar 2: Current Conditions Flavor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo0ExZT-P6k#ws)

New Bedford IntelliStar: Temporarily unavailable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPQUGfMCkdU#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 19, 2014, 09:29:22 AM
As of 9:28 AM ET, HiRAD still appears to be down on both my domestic and Weatherscan IntelliStar units. They're both missing random pieces of information.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 19, 2014, 10:23:18 AM
HiRAD appears to be working on my STAR.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on June 19, 2014, 12:20:21 PM
I love it - it's the do-it-yourself forecast segment!  You're given the current conditions and a radar in motion, and it's up to you to figure out what comes next! :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 19, 2014, 03:21:19 PM
My Intellistar has been also glitching, only showing one city on the ldl.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on June 19, 2014, 05:48:52 PM
Same thing happened to me too last night and I recorded it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: HulkieD on June 19, 2014, 08:33:48 PM
For most of yesterday current conditions were out on the LOT8s, but not on the LDL.

Today, the FiOS Unintellistar is not displaying the long-form LDL, but is cuing up the full LFs at :18 and :48 and the lower third LOT8s at all other times...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 20, 2014, 01:28:04 AM
Narration was cutting off/glitching on my I2Jr earlier tonight
http://www.youtube.com/v/u86K3dQQc68
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 20, 2014, 07:40:07 PM
Apparently my STAR predicts the sun won't be rising tomorrow.  :P

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/intellistarsummaryerror20140620_zps6e82d6ad.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on June 20, 2014, 07:54:32 PM
Apparently my STAR predicts the sun won't be rising tomorrow.  :P

([url]http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/intellistarsummaryerror20140620_zps6e82d6ad.jpg[/url])


My Intellistar has been doing the same thing since the relaunch.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 20, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
Apparently my STAR predicts the sun won't be rising tomorrow.  :P

([url]http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/intellistarsummaryerror20140620_zps6e82d6ad.jpg[/url])


The sun better rise tomorrow - it's the summer solstice, the longest day of the year! :hammer:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on June 22, 2014, 01:15:42 AM
My IS does the same thing. Apparently the sun doesn't rise some days...

I was wondering if there are any noticeable differences between the IS2 and IS2Jr since the graphics update. From what I can see, I can no longer tell the two apart at all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on June 25, 2014, 03:26:42 PM
Don't know if it's been posted before, but here's a video of the IntelliStar in Luquillo, PR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSaFFk8a5bw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSaFFk8a5bw)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 26, 2014, 12:14:41 PM
And the narration problems continue :P I2 HD Local: 6/26/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK9qvyiWQjk#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 26, 2014, 03:04:12 PM

I was wondering if there are any noticeable differences between the IS2 and IS2Jr since the graphics update. From what I can see, I can no longer tell the two apart at all.
I think the only noticeable difference is the wasted space on the right during the LF on the IS2. As far as graphics alone, you wouldn't notice
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on June 26, 2014, 03:07:30 PM
And the narration problems continue :P I2 HD Local: 6/26/14 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK9qvyiWQjk#ws[/url])

I2jr has been doing pretty much the same thing. It will get to the first local forecast screen and just say "Today" or "Tonight" with the music ducked down and then the following screen narrates fine
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on June 26, 2014, 06:00:11 PM
Today is the first day in the nearly two and a half years or so that my area has had the IS2 that we've had a local ad crawl.  The IS1 (until it was discontinued several months ago) always had one.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on June 26, 2014, 06:18:16 PM

I was wondering if there are any noticeable differences between the IS2 and IS2Jr since the graphics update. From what I can see, I can no longer tell the two apart at all.
I think the only noticeable difference is the wasted space on the right during the LF on the IS2. As far as graphics alone, you wouldn't notice
Also, the only difference between the IS, IS2HD, and the IS2Jr. is that the IS still has Allen Jackson's voice-over as it was used previously in versions 1-2. Allen Jackson also previously did the narrations on the XL. Jim Cantore does the voice-overs for the IS2HD and the IS2Jr.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 26, 2014, 07:47:56 PM
When are they gonna change the LOT8s music??
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 26, 2014, 09:20:46 PM

I was wondering if there are any noticeable differences between the IS2 and IS2Jr since the graphics update. From what I can see, I can no longer tell the two apart at all.
I think the only noticeable difference is the wasted space on the right during the LF on the IS2. As far as graphics alone, you wouldn't notice
Also, the only difference between the IS, IS2HD, and the IS2Jr. is that the IS still has Allen Jackson's voice-over as it was used previously in versions 1-2. Allen Jackson also previously did the narrations on the XL. Jim Cantore does the voice-overs for the IS2HD and the IS2Jr.

Yes, except for the fact that the IS2 Jr. is not HD, there is no difference between the IS2 and IS2 Jr.

However, subtle differences exist between the IS2/IS2 Jr. and IS. These include:
- The IS2 and IS Jr scroll through numbers and letters on the CC and summary page while the IS does not.
- On the radar, the IS shows a time stamp and bar and is able to distinguish between precip types while the IS2 and IS Jr cannot.
- Difference in animation on the Daypart.  The IS is smooth while the IS2 and IS2 Jr. are more abrupt.
- Jim Cantore narration on the IS2 and IS2 Jr. and Allen Jackson narration on the IS (mentioned above).
- At the bottom where it shows what segments are coming up and how much time is left on one, a white bar fills a grey bar on the IS2 and IS2 Jr, while on the IS the white bar un-fills the grey bar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 26, 2014, 09:47:37 PM

I was wondering if there are any noticeable differences between the IS2 and IS2Jr since the graphics update. From what I can see, I can no longer tell the two apart at all.
I think the only noticeable difference is the wasted space on the right during the LF on the IS2. As far as graphics alone, you wouldn't notice
Also, the only difference between the IS, IS2HD, and the IS2Jr. is that the IS still has Allen Jackson's voice-over as it was used previously in versions 1-2. Allen Jackson also previously did the narrations on the XL. Jim Cantore does the voice-overs for the IS2HD and the IS2Jr.

Yes, except for the fact that the IS2 Jr. is not HD, there is no difference between the IS2 and IS2 Jr.

However, subtle differences exist between the IS2/IS2 Jr. and IS. These include:
- The IS2 and IS Jr scroll through numbers and letters on the CC and summary page while the IS does not.
- On the radar, the IS shows a time stamp and bar and is able to distinguish between precip types while the IS2 and IS Jr cannot.
- Difference in animation on the Daypart.  The IS is smooth while the IS2 and IS2 Jr. are more abrupt.
- Jim Cantore narration on the IS2 and IS2 Jr. and Allen Jackson narration on the IS (mentioned above).
- At the bottom where it shows what segments are coming up and how much time is left on one, a white bar fills a grey bar on the IS2 and IS2 Jr, while on the IS the white bar un-fills the grey bar.
Also, it's not that noticeable, but transitions between slides is smoother on the IS2 & jr., and when the Unit cues the local, the background and a gray box come up on the IS2 & IS2jr, then the LOT8s logo, while on the IS, the background and LOT8s logo come up then the gray box appears
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on June 27, 2014, 10:24:46 AM
When are they gonna change the LOT8s music??
I contacted @freddyflaxman and as of yesterday they're still investigating. No Timeline as of yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on June 28, 2014, 09:24:41 AM
When are they gonna change the LOT8s music??
I contacted @freddyflaxman and as of yesterday they're still investigating. No Timeline as of yet.
He's been saying that for months, and it's getting annoying.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on June 28, 2014, 12:27:01 PM
When are they gonna change the LOT8s music??
I contacted @freddyflaxman and as of yesterday they're still investigating. No Timeline as of yet.
He's been saying that for months, and it's getting annoying.
I do not understand how TWC has to “investigate” finding some songs to play. There has to be something else they could find from the production music library. Or they could recycle some of their old selections. IMO, TWC is being cheap and lazy playing the same old two songs for weeks, if not months, on end. At this point, I would rather hear complete silence on the LOT8s rather than those songs.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on June 28, 2014, 08:41:36 PM
Guys, remember that TWC has no obligation to inform you of any of their programming presentation decisions, especially one that, to many viewers, is so trivial - local forecast music. So, cool, go ahead and get annoyed or frustrated, but remember that they are not beholdin' to you...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 04, 2014, 11:53:57 AM
Does anyone else find it funny that they're playing the LOT8s "storm alert" music with a July 4th background?  :lol:  I don't know, it just doesn't seem to fit.  Happy 4th of July - but let's play suspenseful music anyway. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on July 04, 2014, 12:30:55 PM
Does anyone else find it funny that they're playing the LOT8s "storm alert" music with a July 4th background?  :lol:  I don't know, it just doesn't seem to fit.  Happy 4th of July - but let's play suspenseful music anyway. :P

It is a bit ironic they're playing the Storm Alert music during the LFs with 4th of July backgrounds, even though Hurricane Arthur has already made landfall. Maybe TWC is also warning us of many "dangerous" fireworks storms set to begin tonight.  :fear: :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: HulkieD on July 08, 2014, 07:53:44 PM
Does anyone else's Intellistar 1 have the same problems mine does?

Namely losing the network feed, but not the severe thunderstorm warning, mid-local forecast?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 16, 2014, 07:54:15 AM
Flooding is possible in flood prone areas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apI8vbm47Zw#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on July 27, 2014, 09:53:36 AM
Anyone notice that the forecast boxes are TOO transparent on the IntelliStar? IIRC, the transparency was as dark as the box for the city name and time above the Forecast boxes.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 27, 2014, 08:55:07 PM
Error continuing on my IS2
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on July 27, 2014, 10:32:13 PM
Anyone notice that the forecast boxes are TOO transparent on the IntelliStar? IIRC, the transparency was as dark as the box for the city name and time above the Forecast boxes.
Was the camera taken upside-down? I've never seen an IntelliStar error like that before!  :rofl:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on July 28, 2014, 07:24:04 AM
Anyone notice that the forecast boxes are TOO transparent on the IntelliStar? IIRC, the transparency was as dark as the box for the city name and time above the Forecast boxes.
Was the camera taken upside-down? I've never seen an IntelliStar error like that before!  :rofl:
OMG! I guess my iPad screwed up the picture...  :blushing: Well, this is embarrassing!
EDIT: Actually, if you click on the picture, it will flip the picture correctly.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 28, 2014, 11:53:45 AM
Remember Chris Hoitsma who was laid off back in 2008? Apparently he's back, but now as a local product manager! :o

Quote
Good morning, Mike.

There is a problem related to the computer unit we provide to Comcast Cable to deliver your local weather for Audubon, New Jersey. A replacement computer unit is on its way...it was ordered on Saturday evening (7/26/2014). Please allow a few days for delivery of the computer and installation by Comcast Cable, and local weather for Audubon and south Jersey will return.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

Chris Hoitsma

Local Forecast Product Manager

The Weather Channel
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 28, 2014, 07:31:04 PM
Remember Chris Hoitsma who was laid off back in 2008? Apparently he's back, but now as a local product manager! :o

Quote
Good morning, Mike.

There is a problem related to the computer unit we provide to Comcast Cable to deliver your local weather for Audubon, New Jersey. A replacement computer unit is on its way...it was ordered on Saturday evening (7/26/2014). Please allow a few days for delivery of the computer and installation by Comcast Cable, and local weather for Audubon and south Jersey will return.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

Chris Hoitsma

Local Forecast Product Manager

The Weather Channel
Impossible! Chris Hoitsma would never go into such details! :fear:

 :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on July 29, 2014, 11:22:53 AM
I just noticed that the days of the week in the 7 Day Forecast are no longer capitalized in the IS2 and it's LDL.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on July 29, 2014, 04:09:25 PM
I just noticed that the days of the week in the 7 Day Forecast are no longer capitalized in the IS2 and it's LDL.
Same with I2jr
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 29, 2014, 09:25:10 PM
I found one of the unknown songs from last spring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIkful_rPQY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIkful_rPQY)

This is "All We Need" by a local Jersey artist, City Acres and you can listen to the full song here:
http://www.youlicense.com/SongDetails.aspx?ID=398682 (http://www.youlicense.com/SongDetails.aspx?ID=398682)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on August 01, 2014, 04:52:16 PM
I just noticed that the days of the week in the 7 Day Forecast are no longer capitalized in the IS2 and it's LDL.

The IS2 reverted to capitalizing the days of the week in the 7 Day Forecast
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 01, 2014, 06:52:43 PM
Anyone remember this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCdJ4YIw0w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCdJ4YIw0w)

2 years ago..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on August 01, 2014, 10:34:24 PM
I remember it. I thought it was a Storm Alert theme from Hurricane Isaac at the time where I was. Good song.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on August 02, 2014, 02:20:24 PM
Anyone remember this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCdJ4YIw0w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCdJ4YIw0w)

2 years ago..
Yes! It's from the movie "The Island" it plays at the end before the credits.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 02, 2014, 09:14:40 PM
Anyone remember this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCdJ4YIw0w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCdJ4YIw0w)

2 years ago..
Yes! It's from the movie "The Island" it plays at the end before the credits.
Quite frankly I'd rather hear beautiful music like that rather than the two repetitive songs
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 03, 2014, 07:26:33 AM
This looks to be the best background instead of using 130 repetitive ones.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 03, 2014, 09:47:25 AM
I have to admit - it's nice and peaceful.  :)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on August 03, 2014, 07:54:30 PM
This looks to be the best background instead of using 130 repetitive ones.
Is that from the IS or IS2Jr.?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on August 05, 2014, 01:01:44 AM
This looks to be the best background instead of using 130 repetitive ones.
Is that from the IS or IS2Jr.?
Looks like he used the graphics from a recorded clip of my areas I2jr
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on August 05, 2014, 01:02:47 AM
This looks to be the best background instead of using 130 repetitive ones.
I agree, it's much better looking!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 05, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Impossible! Chris Hoitsma would never go into such details! :fear:

 :P
Probably explains why the radar city choices have been different the last few months. He must be the new local product manager.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on August 05, 2014, 05:58:51 PM
This looks to be the best background instead of using 130 repetitive ones.
Is that from the IS or IS2Jr.?
Looks like he used the graphics from a recorded clip of my areas I2jr
I didn't know that was yours. I guess I wasn't paying attention to the radar map. :oops:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 06, 2014, 06:48:04 AM
This looks to be the best background instead of using 130 repetitive ones.
Is that from the IS or IS2Jr.?
Looks like he used the graphics from a recorded clip of my areas I2jr

Yep! it's a screencap from your I2jr, and even someone at TWC favorited my tweet about it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on August 07, 2014, 02:57:27 PM
A traffic segment has come to my area's LDL. :happy: I don't know if they'll revive it on the LF, though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on August 07, 2014, 03:00:50 PM
A traffic segment has come to my area's LDL. :happy: I don't know if they'll revive it on the LF, though.

Traffic in a 60-second local forecast segment?  Doubtful.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on August 07, 2014, 06:46:22 PM
A traffic segment has come to my area's LDL. :happy: I don't know if they'll revive it on the LF, though.

Traffic in a 60-second local forecast segment?  Doubtful.
If only they brought back longer LFs. That would be odd, though, because TWC really just doesn't care..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 11, 2014, 10:00:29 AM
Sponsor logos are back
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on August 11, 2014, 05:31:12 PM
Sponsor logos are back
Finally, at least there's no more wasted space on the IS2.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on August 15, 2014, 05:05:17 AM
If I'm honest, I think the sponsor overlay rather ruins the look of the new design. I'm not sure why, Just not a big fan of sponsors.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 16, 2014, 08:28:56 AM
New Bedford IntelliStar: Severe Star Freeze (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBeD20sVi_4#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 18, 2014, 09:59:37 PM
Random comment: finally saw the IS2 today in all its HD glory in Allentown, PA. The CC city is Allentown; LDL cities are Allentown, Reading, Willow Grove, and Flemington.

EDIT: VIDEO...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUysT4wKna4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUysT4wKna4)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 19, 2014, 07:07:23 AM
IntelliStar 2 late cue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zWddM7c09w#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 18, 2014, 01:15:32 PM
New Weather Channel Local On The 8s music? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQoPxEBf2RY#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on September 18, 2014, 01:47:22 PM
For some reason I can't comment on your youtube video. But that music seems to be their 'montage' I wouldn't be surprised if this was only a one off.
The problem is that this track wasn't designed for a local forecast. That Storm Alert section halfway through may confuse people, or so I would think...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: SamRichardson92 on September 18, 2014, 03:44:39 PM
New Weather Channel Local On The 8s music? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQoPxEBf2RY#ws[/url])


Nope.
That's just a different cut of the TWC Brand Anthemn, without the sfx.  I have a copy if you want to listen to the whole thing.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 18, 2014, 04:06:23 PM
I have a feeling this music is temporary since it's odd show music would play during the LF New 8s Music? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFuOG4DoF0Y#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on September 18, 2014, 05:02:15 PM
That sounds like their emergency feed music. I heard it a couple weeks ago, the feed during live programming failed, and it switched to the emergency feed (satellite LF & music) for a few minutes. It just kept playing production music for the different TWC shows.

On another note, I seriously wonder and hope that TWC brings back jazz music to the LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on September 18, 2014, 06:04:01 PM
New Weather Channel Local On The 8s music? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQoPxEBf2RY#ws[/url])

Huh? That's funny, I had a dream a few months ago that TWC played this music on the LF and the same cut?  :thinking: I thought that would be impossible due to the track not being 60 second long but I guess I'm wrong?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on September 19, 2014, 11:35:02 AM
During a late cue yesterday
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on September 19, 2014, 11:35:52 AM
It's interesting how they've decided to pick these tracks.
Maybe they're trying to their moneys worth out of this production music commissioning :p
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: brandonwxguy29 on September 19, 2014, 12:15:56 PM
New Weather Channel Local On The 8s music? ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQoPxEBf2RY#ws[/url])


Nope.
That's just a different cut of the TWC Brand Anthemn, without the sfx.  I have a copy if you want to listen to the whole thing.


I would like to listen to the whole thing
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 23, 2014, 04:34:12 PM
TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Sep. 23, 2014- 12:48PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XlVgMUfScQ#)

Never heard these narrations before:


I don't suppose anyone else here has heard either narration either?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on September 23, 2014, 11:42:49 PM
TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Sep. 23, 2014- 12:48PM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XlVgMUfScQ#[/url])

Never heard these narrations before:

  • "Some light rain will fall throughout the day."
  • "A steady rain. The rain will be heavy at times."

I don't suppose anyone else here has heard either narration either?  :dunno:

I don't think I ever heard it on our IntelliStar (#22878) back when we had cable up until 2008. But, I once came across a video from a few years ago (I can't remember if it was from this site or some other website), I recall seeing a video of another IntelliStar (I can't remember what location it was from), and in that video, it showed a IntelliStar with not only a HiRad outage, but also missing the description of the 36-48 Hour Forecast segment simply saying "Our Local Forecast" because of the missing data.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on September 23, 2014, 11:57:21 PM
No, I've never heard them.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 25, 2014, 12:07:22 PM
I noticed this morning that the number of products on the bottom of the IntelliSTAR LF are now 3 instead of 4. The Summary product doesn't appear at the end of the screen until Now transitions into Today.

Also, the time bar on the products now has white overlapping gray (similar to the IS2/IS2 Jr) where before it was the other way around.

TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Sep. 25, 2014- 11:18AM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh6sbKhnYsI#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 26, 2014, 11:23:46 PM
I just noticed I have now the interactive version of TWC on channel 213 on DISH. Is anyone else also seeing this? It has the local weather conditions with the current IS icons and fonts and everything. I'll try to take a photo and upload it tomorrow. It reminds me of the DirecTV LOT8s.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on September 27, 2014, 12:54:30 PM
I noticed this morning that the number of products on the bottom of the IntelliSTAR LF are now 3 instead of 4. The Summary product doesn't appear at the end of the screen until Now transitions into Today.

Also, the time bar on the products now has white overlapping gray (similar to the IS2/IS2 Jr) where before it was the other way around.

TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Sep. 25, 2014- 11:18AM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh6sbKhnYsI#[/url])


So they decide to make these small tweaks but still can't seem to fix the problem of the LF skipping/jumping when transitioning to the 7-Day Forecast?  Someone needs to get their priorities straight. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 27, 2014, 03:16:21 PM
To my fellow Dish Network members, do you see this on the LOT8s now?? This is totally brand new!! :O :O

http://youtu.be/lwvrV09bNJA (http://youtu.be/lwvrV09bNJA)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on September 27, 2014, 05:34:57 PM
Considering the limitations that exist by delivering a local forecast by such a method, I think this is as good as it gets.  I like it, though I certainly prefer having a cable Star more.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 02, 2014, 12:02:52 AM
Rumors are swirling that another TWC relaunch, including an overhaul of LOT8s is due to roll in a few weeks. Can someone confirm this?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on October 02, 2014, 09:02:18 AM
Rumors are swirling that another TWC relaunch, including an overhaul of LOT8s is due to roll in a few weeks. Can someone confirm this?
Where did you hear this? Yes TWC is due to roll out new graphics but idk what's changing or when? All I know is within 3 months according to @freddyflaxman and a couple of other sources. Also I sent an email to TWC asking what's happening about LO8s and said legibility will be improved with new music being introduced. Later I asked if the vocals or jazz are coming back and said vocals is a possibility although they are increasing production songs according to the email I got. Still a canned message but if I were you I would enjoy the vocal-less forecast while it lasts just in case.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jrhtwc on October 02, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
Rumors are swirling that another TWC relaunch, including an overhaul of LOT8s is due to roll in a few weeks. Can someone confirm this?

If that's true, could DISH, DTV customers get WATT for longform?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on October 02, 2014, 09:35:43 AM
Just got confirmation that a relaunch is set for mid October. From George Lott SVP of Television.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 02, 2014, 10:02:44 AM
Just got confirmation that a relaunch is set for mid October. From George Lott SVP of Television.
Awesome news! Hope this means new music even if production
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: jrhtwc on October 02, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
Just got confirmation that a relaunch is set for mid October. From George Lott SVP of Television.
So, around October 13th then? How big will this relaunch be?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 02, 2014, 11:40:35 AM
Can't wait for the relaunch!  :)  Hopefully the LOT8's overhaul will be a big improvement compared to the current boring graphics.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on October 02, 2014, 11:54:14 AM
Just got confirmation that a relaunch is set for mid October. From George Lott SVP of Television.
So, around October 13th then? How big will this relaunch be?
Most likely refreshed lo8s graphics, possibly more songs, and a modified set of graphics but only time can tell.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 02, 2014, 12:17:27 PM
Not to completely discredit these rumors, but I think too much is being read into the whole new graphics stuff. I could be wrong, but it seems like they're emphasizing on uniformity all across the board this time around, something they have been lacking on doing since the big relaunch back in 2005. Any significant graphic changes will probably be minor and probably will be focused on correcting things that viewers may have had complaints about since November last year imo.

Although if corrections on legibility is accurate, it's seriously about freaking time. This issue shouldn't have taken nearly a year to fix. They need to either a: be more careful about the backgrounds they're using on the LFs or b: they need to make the template all dark for the weekend section of The Week Ahead so the white text is readable from a far distance from your TV. I cannot tell you how many times in the past I have had to get up within two of my HDTV to read what the temperature forecast was for Saturday/Sunday because of those stupid bright BGs clashing with the white text.

As far as music, I stopped caring a long time ago. They can do whatever they want with that as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on October 02, 2014, 12:45:37 PM
I totally agree about the uniformality part. I don't care for the music anymore, music is music to me
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 06, 2014, 10:10:38 PM
The greeting texts have been getting cut off at the edge of the screen today.

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/istar_greetings_text_error_zps86a9e61a.jpg)

Anyone else seeing this error on their end?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on October 15, 2014, 02:29:51 PM
Has anyone else heard anything new about the rumored relaunch?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: yourweathertoday on October 15, 2014, 06:41:51 PM
Please read:

https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/the-forward-direction-of-twc/?topicseen (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/the-forward-direction-of-twc/?topicseen)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Coldwinter on October 16, 2014, 07:05:39 AM
Local on the 8s is celebrating #1 Boss Day. What is up with the pointless holidays thing?

I'll post a photo in a little bit.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: SamRichardson92 on October 16, 2014, 08:24:20 AM
LOT8's is not getting a "relaunch."  "Refresh" is a better word.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on October 16, 2014, 12:21:55 PM
Local on the 8s is celebrating #1 Boss Day. What is up with the pointless holidays thing?

The weather channel, where everyday's a holiday.

Also has anyone noticed the new SWC tone, or rather one very low un-attention grabbing tone followed by Cantore's voice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtPYGgeNAw&list=UUSQeM5RXxKcEDpGC3AQj4rQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtPYGgeNAw&list=UUSQeM5RXxKcEDpGC3AQj4rQ) at around 5:00
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 21, 2014, 05:46:19 AM
Noticed a new 8's greeting screen and new text during the locals on the IS but the New Bedford IS2 HD is down.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on October 21, 2014, 06:55:40 AM
Noticed a new 8's greeting screen and new text during the locals on the IS but the New Bedford IS2 HD is down.
Seems your IS2 goes out when mine does. Mine is out as well. Must be getting an update ready.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 21, 2014, 07:45:43 AM
Noticed a new 8's greeting screen and new text during the locals on the IS but the New Bedford IS2 HD is down.
Seems your IS2 goes out when mine does. Mine is out as well. Must be getting an update ready.

It did come back online but it remains unchanged, but the Summary on the IntelliStar has been removed for a hashtag screen at the end of the locals.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 21, 2014, 11:03:44 AM
They would get rid of the one thing that was actually new and useful (Summary Page) on the IntelliStar and replace it with something that's new and useless(A Hashtag). :wall:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 21, 2014, 11:45:38 AM
TWC IntelliSTAR with updated graphics- Astoria, OR- Oct. 21, 2014- 8:18AM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PReOYycxhZ4#)

I'm not all too impressed with the updated graphics.  :no:  Also, the hashtag screen is missing on my end (just cuts to the satellite LF).

Have to agree with Tavores on the hashtag screen: it is useless. IMO TWC could have put something else in the time frame, like the Local Weather ID number or even increase the timing on the 7-day forecast. But for a useless hashtag screen? Terrible!  :hammer:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on October 21, 2014, 12:03:36 PM
My IS2 is down as well in Baton Rouge. TWCHD as a whole is down. Not impressed with a hashtag graphic cutting into what's already a shortened LF. Show the radar screen for that extra second.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on October 21, 2014, 12:05:47 PM
TWC IntelliSTAR with updated graphics- Astoria, OR- Oct. 21, 2014- 8:18AM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PReOYycxhZ4#[/url])

I'm not all too impressed with the updated graphics.  :no:  Also, the hashtag screen is missing on my end (just cuts to the satellite LF).

Have to agree with Tavores on the hashtag screen: it is useless. IMO TWC could have put something else in the time frame, like the Local Weather ID number or even increase the timing on the 7-day forecast. But for a useless hashtag screen? Terrible!  :hammer:


What updated graphics?! :blink:  OK, yes, I do see that they changed the format and animations of the opening screen (and honestly, I preferred the clock to the left - I think we know it's the LOT8s already!), but other than that, everything else looks unchanged.  I'm hoping this isn't the "refresh" that's being talked about.

Oh, and yes, instead of adding more weather information like I am sure many people would want, how about we remove some and replace it with a useless hashtag screen?  Maybe that screen is a temporary placement for something neat to come.  One can only hope... :(
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on October 21, 2014, 12:20:20 PM
Because you too can tweet the weather in your area using #ItsAmazingOutThere, hopefully it's a temporary thing. Why would they remove the clock?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mightynine on October 21, 2014, 12:54:47 PM
TWC IntelliSTAR with updated graphics- Astoria, OR- Oct. 21, 2014- 8:18AM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PReOYycxhZ4#[/url])

I'm not all too impressed with the updated graphics.  :no:  Also, the hashtag screen is missing on my end (just cuts to the satellite LF).

Have to agree with Tavores on the hashtag screen: it is useless. IMO TWC could have put something else in the time frame, like the Local Weather ID number or even increase the timing on the 7-day forecast. But for a useless hashtag screen? Terrible!  :hammer:


Yours is kinda borked - it shouldn't have the what was the original opening screen, it should go straight to the new one. That's probably why you don't have the hashtag screen - which doesn't add much anyway.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on October 21, 2014, 09:52:51 PM
My IS2 forecast is showing a 36 Hour Forecast (Tonight, Tomorrow, Tomorrow Night) instead of a 24 Hour Forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on October 22, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
So that's why my IS2 was out yesterday.

I'm pretty disappointed they cut out the summary screen, since it was useful to me. Why would they replace it with that hashtag screen?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on October 22, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
Traffic is missing for me. I'm also seeing 36 hours now which is nice.

Glad to see the summary screen go. It was useless IMO. But replacing it with a hashtag screen doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: SamRichardson92 on October 22, 2014, 04:56:08 PM
These new changes are the most you guys are getting at least for now. I was going to post a little preview of this but TWC launched ahead of schedule :')
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on October 23, 2014, 12:29:00 AM
Really wish the Metro Page would return like shown in the boston mockup.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 24, 2014, 01:31:34 PM
I'm now able to see the 36-hour forecast on my STAR (no weather bulletin or local radar) but the hashtag screen is still missing.

TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Oct. 24, 2014- 8:58AM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTChlyIZODw#)

EDIT: The slightly updated graphics are now working properly on my STAR.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCmatthew on October 25, 2014, 01:05:03 PM
I'm now able to see the 36-hour forecast on my STAR (no weather bulletin or local radar) but the hashtag screen is still missing.

TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Oct. 24, 2014- 8:58AM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTChlyIZODw#[/url])

EDIT: The slightly updated graphics are now working properly on my STAR.  :yes:

Seeing the end of the national LF is a lot better than seeing the hashtag screen IMO.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 25, 2014, 01:48:11 PM
I'm now able to see the 36-hour forecast on my STAR (no weather bulletin or local radar) but the hashtag screen is still missing.

TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Oct. 24, 2014- 8:58AM PDT ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTChlyIZODw#[/url])

EDIT: The slightly updated graphics are now working properly on my STAR.  :yes:

Seeing the end of the national LF is a lot better than seeing the hashtag screen IMO.


I agree.  :yes:

Also, I caught this on my LF this morning:

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/for_more_info_twc_zps77d29cd4.jpg)

Seems that text is only used instead of the hashtag whenever there is a weather alert. Also, the text on the advisory scroll is now black. HUGE improvement over the previous eye-hurting red color.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on October 25, 2014, 08:11:11 PM
I notice the new changes on the IntelliStar today too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on October 29, 2014, 05:15:35 AM
I've just seen the new changes... What the, I mean, really... What have TWC done to the LOT8's?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on October 29, 2014, 11:57:53 AM
The local forecast line up is back to the way it is. The second new thing is that the narrator says "Our Local Forecast" and that's it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on October 29, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
Does anyone know if the IS2 has a dual feed music feature? Either that or TWC is doing something because at 4:28 PM I heard "Take a Walk" by Passion Pit and 4:38 PM I heard a weird production song that kind of sounds like the TWC anthem but different? No it's not the one that was added in September, something different. I called a someone I know and they said they haven't heard anything new today, and they were watching at that time? So I'm confused a bit.  :dunno: Can anyone shed some light on this?

As of 4:48 PM I've been hearing the same 3 production songs. Still at 5:28 PM
Also here's the song that I heard play at 4:28 PM. Tell me if you heard it as well.
LF music started at 0:25 on the video.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wMhhq7zwPc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wMhhq7zwPc#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCFan_88 on October 29, 2014, 05:50:05 PM
Does anyone know if the IS2 has a dual feed music feature? Either that or TWC is doing something because at 4:28 PM I heard "Take a Walk" by Passion Pit and 4:38 PM I heard a weird production song that kind of sounds like the TWC anthem but different? No it's not the one that was added in September, something different. I called a someone I know and they said they haven't heard anything new today, and they were watching at that time? So I'm confused a bit.  :dunno: Can anyone shed some light on this?

As of 4:48 PM I've been hearing the same 3 production songs. Still at 5:28 PM
Also here's the song that I heard play at 4:28 PM. Tell me if you heard it as well.
LF music started at 0:25 on the video.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wMhhq7zwPc]www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wMhhq7zwPc[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wMhhq7zwPc#[/url])

Yep. I recall at 4:28 hearing that song and at 4:38 with the production. I have xfinity with the headend being Concord, NH.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on October 29, 2014, 06:12:41 PM
I forgot to mention I sent an email to TWC asking if new music will be introduced last night, here's the reply I
got. Still a general statement but maybe they are doing some testing?

Quote
Thanks for your inquiry. We are currently working on possible music formats. We'll be rolling
out in the next month or so.

David

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on October 29, 2014, 10:33:12 PM
I forgot to mention I sent an email to TWC asking if new music will be introduced last night, here's the reply I
got. Still a general statement but maybe they are doing some testing?

Quote
Thanks for your inquiry. We are currently working on possible music formats. We'll be rolling
out in the next month or so.

David
No comment.
PM me.

PM'd you
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on October 29, 2014, 10:35:36 PM
I forgot to mention I sent an email to TWC asking if new music will be introduced last night, here's the reply I
got. Still a general statement but maybe they are doing some testing?

Quote
Thanks for your inquiry. We are currently working on possible music formats. We'll be rolling
out in the next month or so.

David
No comment.
PM me.

Sam, I am going to ask you again to refrain from posting comments like these.  There should be absolutely no reason as to why you cannot share something about the LOT8s publicly on this forum.  I am still confused by your vague comments; do they mean you know a bunch about TWC's future plans but refuse to talk about them in detail because you are not allowed, or do  they mean you simply don't know all the details?  If it's the first, then it's probably best to not post anything at all.  If it's the latter, then please just say that.  There's no reason you need to have someone PM you if they are curious about the music.  If you can't share it publicly on the forum, then you probably shouldn't be sharing it at all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcclassics on October 29, 2014, 11:21:35 PM
I agree with Andy. This is a public forum, Sam. If you have something to share, please do. If it's something you can't share, then keep it to yourself. Thanks.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on October 30, 2014, 01:50:57 AM
Local on the 8s is celebrating #1 Boss Day. What is up with the pointless holidays thing?

The weather channel, where everyday's a holiday.

Also has anyone noticed the new SWC tone, or rather one very low un-attention grabbing tone followed by Cantore's voice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtPYGgeNAw&list=UUSQeM5RXxKcEDpGC3AQj4rQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtPYGgeNAw&list=UUSQeM5RXxKcEDpGC3AQj4rQ) at around 5:00
Glad they brought it back... to be honest they may have had to bring it back due to FCC regulations.

Next year will really be interesting.... starting in May all weather alert crawls will have to have text to speech audio generated in real time. TV stations will have to install equipment to broadcast a separate audio channel. TWC filed for an extension for this rule citing technology limitations. I'm curious to see how they solve this.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 30, 2014, 10:58:43 AM
After over 4 years, Atlanta now has the IS2. That was quite the surprise...

EDIT: There's traffic data also, the cities are all the same on the LDL just like it is on the SD feed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on October 30, 2014, 11:33:01 AM
OK I understand everyone's frustration with the Lo8s music posts which were deleted recently.
I got permission from TWC to tell everyone what is happening. This is what was in my email. This is also what SamRichardson92 knows as well.

According to David Blumenthal
First, Production music is increasing to 5, possibly more
Second, changes were recently delayed from November to Early 2015.
Thirdly this is an attempt for sonic branding and the increase of Lo8s music to avoid constant looping.
Fourth as of this time no Pop music is planned for 2014-15.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mightynine on October 30, 2014, 05:24:04 PM
Ads are back on the IS.

Not sure how to scale down the images, so I removed them and left the links.
 
http://i.imgur.com/CMiZxAM.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/CMiZxAM.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/R4PCoBu.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/R4PCoBu.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on October 31, 2014, 01:05:02 PM
But what happens if the battery runs out?

Nice to see that it's transparent around the edges, I have an OCD :/
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 31, 2014, 03:38:29 PM
I agree.  :yes:

Also, I caught this on my LF this morning:

Seems that text is only used instead of the hashtag whenever there is a weather alert. Also, the text on the advisory scroll is now black. HUGE improvement over the previous eye-hurting red color.  :yes:

The black text update seems to be on the SD feed of TWC (at least that's the case here) Were getting a Wind Advisory crawl on the HD feed and it's red text.

EDIT: Speaking of Warning Crawls, I wish they were color coded like they used to be, (orange for wind advisories,  yellow for severe t'storm watches, etc.) but with additional colors like green for flood based weather bulletins.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on October 31, 2014, 06:49:12 PM
Ads are back on the IS.

Not sure how to scale down the images, so I removed them and left the links.
 
[url]http://i.imgur.com/CMiZxAM.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.imgur.com/CMiZxAM.jpg[/url])
[url]http://i.imgur.com/R4PCoBu.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i.imgur.com/R4PCoBu.jpg[/url])


Interesting how the ads are now being placed in the lower right. :blink:

Also, as Tavores was saying, I also wish TWC would color-code the Weather Bulletin scrollbar.  Doing so would make the statement pop out that much more if you quickly glance and see a particular color.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: colonieweather on October 31, 2014, 07:12:29 PM
I wish the alert scroll would go over the national headline scroll.  I find it a bit difficult to read two scrolling messages so close, even though the go at different speeds.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 01, 2014, 04:31:04 PM
Seen on my Istar II on weds night
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on November 01, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
Seen on my Istar II on weds night

Ugh, is that an entire-ad background?  TWC seems to be using those a lot lately, especially on their mobile app.
I dislike it, but I know they probably get boatloads of money for using those.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 01, 2014, 09:58:06 PM
I agree.  :yes:

Also, I caught this on my LF this morning:

Seems that text is only used instead of the hashtag whenever there is a weather alert. Also, the text on the advisory scroll is now black. HUGE improvement over the previous eye-hurting red color.  :yes:


The black text update seems to be on the SD feed of TWC (at least that's the case here) Were getting a Wind Advisory crawl on the HD feed and it's red text.

EDIT: Speaking of Warning Crawls, I wish they were color coded like they used to be, (orange for wind advisories,  yellow for severe t'storm watches, etc.) but with additional colors like green for flood based weather bulletins.


Spoke too soon. :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/eAx8vtb.png)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 02, 2014, 02:03:37 PM
Why am I getting totally different graphics on the SD feed as compared to those on the HD feed? I realize these were special DST/Halloween-only graphics but I did not see them in the IS2/IS clips posted above (which were captured at the same time). Like the music too!
Weather Channel November 2014 Morning 1 - 10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtH6-lUn8qE#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ap215 on November 03, 2014, 12:33:52 PM
Say now that's a real good selection of songs they played not bad.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on November 03, 2014, 12:39:33 PM
Why am I getting totally different graphics on the SD feed as compared to those on the HD feed? I realize these were special DST/Halloween-only graphics but I did not see them in the IS2/IS clips posted above (which were captured at the same time). Like the music too!
Weather Channel November 2014 Morning 1 - 10 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtH6-lUn8qE#[/url])


Off topic, but I really like the first song - a jazz arrangmenet of Pharrell Williams' "Happy."  I feel like TWC could make the best of both worlds in terms of their LOT8s music if they use jazz arrangements of pop hits.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCToday on November 06, 2014, 08:18:58 PM
Have they always shown Special Weather Statements on the crawl? Perhaps I just never noticed before
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 06, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
Have they always shown Special Weather Statements on the crawl? Perhaps I just never noticed before

Do you mean since the relaunch a year ago or in general? If you mean in general, they always showed SWS, but before the relaunch it was shown on an orange crawl. I *think* I've seen a SWS since the relaunch though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on November 08, 2014, 09:50:03 AM
Yes, special weather statements were shown on crawls ever since the WeatherStar XL.  They were on brown scrolls on the III and 4000.

Last year's relaunch, however, doesn't make any color distinctions between the different advisories anymore, so a tornado warning now looks exactly like a special weather statement.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on November 10, 2014, 01:52:56 AM
Have they always shown Special Weather Statements on the crawl? Perhaps I just never noticed before

Do you mean since the relaunch a year ago or in general? If you mean in general, they always showed SWS, but before the relaunch it was shown on an orange crawl. I *think* I've seen a SWS since the relaunch though.

"Special Weather Statement" "Weather Bulletin" and "Winter Weather Bulletin" were some of the few that were shown in orange on the XL
https://www.youtube.com/v/SnXU1zNckxE

https://www.youtube.com/v/dQu5h-eYnPI

https://www.youtube.com/v/KnCJRGfZ1iM
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 20, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
Just got an email, expect new LOT8s music next week.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on November 20, 2014, 10:44:02 PM
Just got an email, expect new LOT8s music next week.
I'm looking forward to this bigger variety of LOT8s music!  :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on November 20, 2014, 11:55:20 PM
I wish they will play some older songs as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on November 21, 2014, 06:49:48 AM
Just got an email, expect new LOT8s music next week.
Production or playlist?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Steve-O on November 21, 2014, 04:37:34 PM
I noticed that the cities on the SD local have changed and are the same as the HD local...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 21, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
I noticed that the cities on the SD local have changed and are the same as the HD local...

The cities on my SD STAR haven't changed.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Steve-O on November 21, 2014, 06:32:00 PM
Maybe it's temporary but I'm not sure why it would be...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 22, 2014, 11:40:04 AM
My SD IntelliStar has been replaced with the IS2 HD.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 22, 2014, 12:09:04 PM
My SD IntelliStar has been replaced with the IS2 HD.

Yeah it seems that pretty much every Comcast headend (and perhaps a few others) has been replacing their TWC SD feeds with a letterboxed simulcast of their TWC HD feeds. I wonder why.  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 22, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
My SD IntelliStar has been replaced with the IS2 HD.

Yeah it seems that pretty much every Comcast headend (and perhaps a few others) has been replacing their TWC SD feeds with a letterboxed simulcast of their TWC HD feeds. I wonder why.  :dunno:

Something might be coming? the IntelliStar was just running Thursday.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 22, 2014, 03:04:10 PM
To save money I would assume. When it comes to STARs, they would only have to worry about maintaining the IS2 rather than the IS/IS2 together on different feeds. That's just my guess though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on November 23, 2014, 12:14:47 AM
To save money I would assume. When it comes to STARs, they would only have to worry about maintaining the IS2 rather than the IS/IS2 together on different feeds. That's just my guess though.

Yeah.  I think it's a whole lot easier just having to deal with one "feed" or format.  As has been discussed here a lot, many other stations just letterbox their HD feed for SD, ESPN/ESPN2 being a prime example that comes to my mind at this point.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on November 23, 2014, 12:22:38 PM
IMO, if there was a way to just cut the sidebar from the IS2 (and maybe a slight bit of the video window), you could even take the IS2 feed and make it 4:3 for SD viewers, because the info is pretty much the same and presented in the same way.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on November 23, 2014, 01:59:59 PM
Just got an email, expect new LOT8s music next week.
Production or playlist?
From doing my research it's going to be additional production music. I just wish we had a real playlist again  :cry3: Why can't they mix a few of the past playlists songs along with current production and change them out every month or so?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 23, 2014, 08:01:39 PM
To save money I would assume. When it comes to STARs, they would only have to worry about maintaining the IS2 rather than the IS/IS2 together on different feeds. That's just my guess though.

Yeah.  I think it's a whole lot easier just having to deal with one "feed" or format.  As has been discussed here a lot, many other stations just letterbox their HD feed for SD, ESPN/ESPN2 being a prime example that comes to my mind at this point.

If the headend has switched over to the HD feed simulcast for The Weather Channel, that I guess that means they no longer want their SD IntelliSTAR units, right? If that's the case, then I guess that the headend would have to send the units back to TWC HQ, wouldn't they?  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 23, 2014, 09:59:07 PM
Just got an email, expect new LOT8s music next week.
Production or playlist?
Instrumentals
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on November 24, 2014, 11:41:31 AM
Instrumentals I hope, anything else really does my head in...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on November 24, 2014, 03:23:01 PM
Old wuwa theme played at :18

Looks like they added emergency feed music to the Lf

Morning rush theme at :28
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on November 24, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
Guess the music changes were after 1pm as 12pm used the same 3 production tracks that been used since the Local On The 8's change.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: alex979 on November 24, 2014, 05:54:20 PM
One of the new cuts is definitely similar to the old WUWA theme, but it's different than the one from the emergency feed. The other one is the old Morning Rush background music, and is exactly the same as the emergency feed music only with the intro attached at the end (here's what it sounds like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w22moDWF0ZA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w22moDWF0ZA) )
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on November 24, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
Is anyone's local sidebar working? Mine isn't and the national one is only showing airport information and nothing else.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on November 24, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
Unknown Country instrumental at :48, (Sounds slightly similar to "Frail - Jars of Clay") Maybe production but not sure

Here's the clip courtesy of Intellistar1038 on youtube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkxBNxMrCYI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkxBNxMrCYI)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on November 25, 2014, 02:49:44 AM
Is anyone's local sidebar working? Mine isn't and the national one is only showing airport information and nothing else.

The IS2 Sidebar is intentionally disabled to display Thanksgiving travel information. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on November 26, 2014, 10:00:14 AM
AMHQ theme played at the end of AMHQ at 8:58 AM CST.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on November 26, 2014, 09:24:12 PM
That must've been the new music they were talking about.  :pinch:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on November 27, 2014, 07:30:39 AM
New local on the 8s music part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFuf8hDXNc#ws)

New Local on the 8s music 11/24/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrRaOjfKpjE#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 27, 2014, 03:57:26 PM
These are all the new songs I heard so far...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uvvWd2a1gs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uvvWd2a1gs)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Coldwinter on November 29, 2014, 11:18:07 AM
These are all the new songs I heard so far...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uvvWd2a1gs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uvvWd2a1gs)

In the video I heard both WUWA themes, the AMHQ theme, the production music added back in August or September, and the Morning Rush theme.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: livefromButler on November 29, 2014, 09:20:23 PM
Can anyone please record some high quality MP3s of the new production songs from an HD Sat or National feed for us emulator people?  :lol:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on November 30, 2014, 08:48:28 AM
I've got one new track from youtube, no distributing though. That is against forum rules  :nono:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 14, 2014, 10:19:06 PM
Christmas music will start playing on the LF this week.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on December 15, 2014, 01:02:01 PM
Christmas music will start playing on the LF this week.

Christmas music has been playing where I work all month.  Bah humbug! :nono:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on December 15, 2014, 04:12:45 PM
Christmas music will start playing on the LF this week.
Christmas music starts December 19th according to @daveclark. Finally after a 2 year hiatus!  :clap:  :dance: Make sure someone DVR's the songs.

Hopefully we'll see a return of TSO, Ryan Farish, David Arkenstone, John Williams .etc
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 15, 2014, 05:10:54 PM
Christmas music will start playing on the LF this week.
Christmas music starts December 19th according to @daveclark. Finally after a 2 year hiatus!  :clap:  :dance: Make sure someone DVR's the songs.

Hopefully we'll see a return of TSO, Ryan Farish, David Arkenstone, John Williams .etc
Don't get too excited - it may just be holiday-themed production music
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on December 16, 2014, 04:51:27 PM
LFs are all decked out in Hannukah attire today. "Let's have some funnakah. It's time for Hannukah." :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on December 16, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
I've noticed a green TWC logo has been added to the bottom left on the national HD local forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on December 17, 2014, 01:36:53 PM
Christmas music will start playing on the LF this week.
Christmas music starts December 19th according to @daveclark. Finally after a 2 year hiatus!  :clap:  :dance: Make sure someone DVR's the songs.

Hopefully we'll see a return of TSO, Ryan Farish, David Arkenstone, John Williams .etc
Don't get too excited - it may just be holiday-themed production music

@daveclark just confirmed we're getting our classic Christmas playlist! :dance:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: SmashbrosThe3rd on December 17, 2014, 02:04:02 PM
on that christmas music, at the bottom of the hour before the lot8's comes on when they are talking about the white christmas poll, i'm hearing some christmas like music in the background. sounds like some kinda band is playing the music. will try to upload some later on tonight.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCC_DJK5555 on December 28, 2014, 09:28:54 PM
Did a quick search and didn't see this posted anywhere (I apologize if this has been already been discussed)

On the backwards L-bar (or whatever it's called) it has that circle that displays airport delays, almanac data (sunrise, sunset, avg. high, avg. low, moon phase), dew point, precip, etc.

For the past week or so, mine has only been showing airport delays.  Is this system-wide (for holiday travel), or is this an issue with my STAR?

Thanks.   B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on December 29, 2014, 09:37:50 AM
As far as I Know, the Sidebar has been disabled on all IS2s nationwide to display national travel data as many are flying home for the holidays.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 29, 2014, 10:55:09 PM
Not sure what TWC is up to, but the :48 long-form LFs haven't been showing at all this evening.  :huh:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on December 30, 2014, 07:15:30 AM
As in just your local forecast or is the national one not showing?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on December 30, 2014, 07:43:15 AM
An unknown Lo8s song played at :38. Not sure if production as it didn't fade out in the end like other production songs. Couldn't find the song in previously recorded production music added last month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 30, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
As in just your local forecast or is the national one not showing?

Both. The :18 long-form LFs were showing last night but the :48 LFs did not show at all. :no: Instead, the show just cuts directly to commercial.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCC_DJK5555 on December 30, 2014, 09:28:44 PM
As far as I Know, the Sidebar has been disabled on all IS2s nationwide to display national travel data as many are flying home for the holidays.

Thanks.   B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on January 13, 2015, 07:13:27 AM
It seems TWC silently updated the Intellistar today or last night. The only major changes I can see so far, are to the radar. The Radar color looks softer, because they removed the shadow. Also, city labels have a white box around them making them easier to see, just like the National LF and WSI Max radars.

EDIT: I just checked, and the IS2 has also had a few changes done to the radar and sidebar. The radar has the new city labels and radar colors, but the radar animates much faster and smoother than before. Also, the sidebar now has a rain forecast that shows the forecasted amount of rain for the next day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 13, 2015, 11:24:40 AM
It seems TWC silently updated the Intellistar today or last night. The only major changes I can see so far, are to the radar. The Radar color looks softer, because they removed the shadow. Also, city labels have a white box around them making them easier to see, just like the National LF and WSI Max radars.

Looks like they followed at least one of my suggestions from a year ago...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 13, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
The county lines were removed from the regional radar on SD Intellistars
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on January 13, 2015, 01:29:29 PM
The county lines were removed from the regional radar on SD Intellistars
Earlier this morning the county lines were still on my IS's radar, but not anymore.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on January 14, 2015, 10:25:01 AM
Although this is speculation, it looks like the is2 received TruVu Max radars because the color tables match the on air Max color table plus the radar animates very quick and smoothly like TruVu Max. Unlike before the color table was different and animated slowly frame by frame.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on January 15, 2015, 09:47:46 AM
The I2jr radar was updated, too. It's easier to see and it now has the time lapse bar at the top, which it did not have before, but I think the regular IS already had that, right?
https://www.youtube.com/v/MuflL7LV6C8
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 15, 2015, 12:23:41 PM
The state borders and highways are now a little more defined on the I2HD
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on January 21, 2015, 07:41:39 PM
A new production song played at 6:38pm CST. It sounds like a TWC production song, but it doesn't seem like a show theme. Maybe it's a production song for a new show?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 22, 2015, 09:33:46 AM
I have a feeling it's Bettes' tune for his new show New TWC Song #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPveskAlzoQ#ws)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: alex979 on January 22, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
I have a feeling it's Bettes' tune for his new show

It could also be for Maria's new show. It seems more appropriate for a weekend morning show to me. We'll see.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 22, 2015, 08:42:07 PM
I have a feeling it's Bettes' tune for his new show

It could also be for Maria's new show. It seems more appropriate for a weekend morning show to me. We'll see.
Completely agree.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on January 25, 2015, 07:14:41 PM
TWC updated their Storm Alert Graphics for the National LF compared to last year with no storm alert graphics.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on January 26, 2015, 11:41:47 PM
Does anyone know when the Weather bulletins graphic returned? I know it was like this originally, but thenit was changed to be text only.
https://www.youtube.com/v/0JsGe7kGoBo
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on January 27, 2015, 12:11:12 AM
Does anyone know when the Weather bulletins graphic returned? I know it was like this originally, but thenit was changed to be text only.
https://www.youtube.com/v/0JsGe7kGoBo
As far as I know, it's been like that since this weekend. Everything else before was text.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on January 27, 2015, 09:03:41 PM
It was taken off the Istar SD a while back but remained on the I2jr and I2HD the whole time. The video referenced from Charleston is an I2JR
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on January 27, 2015, 10:34:35 PM
It was taken off the Istar SD a while back but remained on the I2jr and I2HD the whole time. The video referenced from Charleston is an I2JR
That animation was removed from the IS1 but it never was on the IS2 or IS2Jr, instead they had text only without the graphic. It seems that TWC added this to the IS2 and IS2jr very recently.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on January 28, 2015, 01:03:26 PM

That animation was removed from the IS1 but it never was on the IS2 or IS2Jr, instead they had text only without the graphic. It seems that TWC added this to the IS2 and IS2jr very recently.
Right, the bulletin page (like in this video) had been text-based as far as I knew, up until this point
https://www.youtube.com/v/YVQpYKLJyDY
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on January 31, 2015, 06:07:36 PM
My IS2 is frozen. Audio is jumbled and picture is frozen, however weather info is still running fine and still receiving commands to change. I just complained to TWC Tech support. Any one else seeing this? I noticed it around 5:30 PM EST.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on January 31, 2015, 06:38:21 PM
It seems TWC brought back some of the nostalgic music on their latest playlist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=yTmPc9YSF1g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=yTmPc9YSF1g)

Yet during Winter Storm "Juno™" coverage, I haven't heard any of those tunes, just the same old regular production tunes.  :wall:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mightynine on January 31, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
It seems TWC brought back some of the nostalgic music on their latest playlist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=yTmPc9YSF1g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=yTmPc9YSF1g)

Yet during Winter Storm "Juno™" coverage, I haven't heard any of those tunes, just the same old regular production tunes.  :wall:

I believe that's not real, just someone putting their own music over the video.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on January 31, 2015, 08:25:34 PM
I believe that's not real, just someone putting their own music over the video.
Ooops. I didn't know that. :dunno: Thanks for reminding me. Quite honestly, I haven't watched TWC regularly as much as I used too, although I did watch some of Winter Storm "Juno™" coverage recently, but I watched most of TWC's coverage on DirecTV's exclusive Severe Weather Mix channel that they had temporary on what would normally be the Sports Mix channel on 205 and 600. This was only available during the recent east coast snowstorm (or in TWC's case, "Juno™").
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TV Shows Fan on February 09, 2015, 05:29:22 PM
I have the IS2jr now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on February 10, 2015, 12:56:25 AM
I have the IS2jr now.
They are slowl replacing all original IntelliStars with I2Jrs or the I2xd
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on February 10, 2015, 08:54:00 AM
Is there even any significant difference between an IS and a IS2jr? Appearance-wise they all seem the same to me.

Although, it makes sense to replace the IS with the IS2jr since it's like an offspring of the IS2.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on February 10, 2015, 09:40:08 AM
My IS2 cities were updated.

Originally - East Windsor, East Brunswick, Trenton, Hopewell
Updated - East Windsor, Princeton, Trenton, South Brunswick

Maybe TWC is updating this or Xfinity East Windsor is using a different TWC Feed?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on February 10, 2015, 10:28:32 AM
Is there even any significant difference between an IS and a IS2jr? Appearance-wise they all seem the same to me.

Although, it makes sense to replace the IS with the IS2jr since it's like an offspring of the IS2.
The I2jr has the Cantore Vocal Local, whereas the IS still uses Allen Jackson. And the graphics, in regards to the page transitions, on the i2jr are a little quicker and more abrupt, and the temperature on the CC screen rapidly counts up to the current temp, like the IS2.  I would notice the difference, but the average viewer probably wouldn't.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on February 10, 2015, 11:12:51 AM
Echoing Tavores, it does make perfect sense that TWC is slowly replacing all IntelliSTAR units with IS2 Jr units, considering that the IS is about 12 years old and is constantly glitching. Also, that could explain why all if not many Comcast and Bright House headends who have adopted the IS2 replaced their SD TWC feeds with HD feed simulcasts.  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on February 10, 2015, 04:25:27 PM
Echoing Tavores, it does make perfect sense that TWC is slowly replacing all IntelliSTAR units with IS2 Jr units, considering that the IS is about 12 years old and is constantly glitching. Also, that could explain why all if not many Comcast and Bright House headends who have adopted the IS2 replaced their SD TWC feeds with HD feed simulcasts.  :thinking:
That also makes me wonder if TWC is planning on making a new Weatherscan model of the IS2 or IS2 Jr.? The current Weatherscan IntelliStar model came out back in 2003 and it's a year older than the main TWC model and hasn't received any graphics updates or new features since 2010 or so. That also makes me wonder if TWC will ever make Weatherscan HD?  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on February 10, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
Echoing Tavores, it does make perfect sense that TWC is slowly replacing all IntelliSTAR units with IS2 Jr units, considering that the IS is about 12 years old and is constantly glitching. Also, that could explain why all if not many Comcast and Bright House headends who have adopted the IS2 replaced their SD TWC feeds with HD feed simulcasts.  :thinking:
That also makes me wonder if TWC is planning on making a new Weatherscan model of the IS2 or IS2 Jr.? The current Weatherscan IntelliStar model came out back in 2003 and it's a year older than the main TWC model and hasn't received any graphics updates or new features since 2010 or so. That also makes me wonder if TWC will ever make Weatherscan HD?  :unsure:
Wxscan is essentially frozen in time. No updates/upgrades planned, including hd.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on February 12, 2015, 10:46:34 PM
Today, my Comcast headend replaced the TWC SD Feed with a letterboxed version of the IS2 HD Feed. It appears cable companies are slowly phasing out the IntelliStar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on February 13, 2015, 12:36:21 AM
Today, my Comcast headend replaced the TWC SD Feed with a letterboxed version of the IS2 HD Feed. It appears cable companies are slowly phasing out the IntelliStar.

Same thing happened to my headend 2 months ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on February 19, 2015, 03:45:56 PM
My Time Warner Cable headends replaced the SD IntelliStar to the Letterboxed version of IntelliStar 2 HD Feed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatherman99 on February 22, 2015, 07:02:53 PM
I really think TWC should bring back the L-Bar local forecast. It should replace the LDL local on the 8's that pops up every ten minutes when the long form shows are on and only then.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on March 13, 2015, 04:24:12 PM
I've been seeing periodic CC outages on my STAR lately.

TWC IntelliSTAR- Astoria, OR- Mar. 13, 2015- 12:48PM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTweDeMRBnM#)

Anyone else seeing this on their end?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on March 13, 2015, 06:51:30 PM
Same here. Both on my IS and IS2. The IS2 only shows the radar, local forecasts and the 7 day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatherman99 on March 13, 2015, 06:53:30 PM
Me too. I have 2 LF videos of this occurring to my star. It all started after the DST transition.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on March 13, 2015, 08:04:51 PM
My IS2 starts right on the radar and doesn't show the CC screen at all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: texasstooge on March 14, 2015, 12:14:11 AM
Today, my Comcast headend replaced the TWC SD Feed with a letterboxed version of the IS2 HD Feed. It appears cable companies are slowly phasing out the IntelliStar.
Charter in Fort Worth also did the same thing three years ago.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: texasstooge on March 14, 2015, 12:28:27 AM
It's probably been a long time since a weather warning (other than a Winter Storm Warning a week or 2 ago) was issued for my area, but has the alert tone changed on the IntelliStars?

Video (which I stumbled across) courtesy of Weatherman99 on YouTube.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnGxu8zD-r4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnGxu8zD-r4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 18, 2015, 02:06:22 PM
Has anyone been seeing phrases like "hot," "cold," "not as warm," "colder" etc on their text forecasts at all lately? I haven't seen them in months, even during the bitter cold spells we had last month.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on March 20, 2015, 11:54:07 PM
Looks like the :48 locals during long form have returned after a 3 month hiatus. Probably due to my complaint to @daveclark.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on March 21, 2015, 08:52:58 PM
Looks like the :48 locals during long form have returned after a 3 month hiatus. Probably due to my complaint to @daveclark.

Unfortunately there was no LF at :48,  as I looked just now.  :no:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 22, 2015, 06:09:45 PM
When does TWC air full screen LOT8s during longform? It seems to be inconsistent; sometimes it's :08/:38 and others it's :18/:48.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherStarXL on March 23, 2015, 11:50:32 PM
When does TWC air full screen LOT8s during longform? It seems to be inconsistent; sometimes it's :08/:38 and others it's :18/:48.
I seriously think it's once a hour @:18 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on March 25, 2015, 10:21:00 PM
Storm Alert music played during the :18 LF just now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: iKJames on March 25, 2015, 11:22:31 PM
Storm Alert music played during the :18 LF just now.
Ended up playing again at 11:18pm ET
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on March 31, 2015, 07:03:12 AM
Yesterday was the last day I saw my Intellistar. Goodbye old friend.  :cry: Time Warner replaced the SD feed with a letterboxed HD Feed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatherman99 on March 31, 2015, 04:23:49 PM
At this rate, all the intelliStar systems could be extinct by next year possibly. Maybe sooner.  :cry3:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: texasstooge on March 31, 2015, 06:18:21 PM
At this rate, all the intelliStar systems could be extinct by next year possibly. Maybe sooner.  :cry3:
And you could be right. As of today, Time Warner Cable in North Texas has done away with the IntelliStars and simulcasting the HD feed of The Weather Channel on all SD channels. I gotta admit, the transitions on the IS2 are much smoother, and the sound quality is much better than the original SD feed. Though the IntelliStar will be missed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatherman99 on March 31, 2015, 11:09:49 PM
I don't like how the IS2 feeds are letterboxed though.  I mean it's a 4:3 aspect ratio, and you have black bars filling nearly half of the screen. I mean those who have those tiny SDTVs, good luck reading the tiny letters!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on April 01, 2015, 12:43:49 AM
I don't like how the IS2 feeds are letterboxed though.  I mean it's a 4:3 aspect ratio, and you have black bars filling nearly half of the screen. I mean those who have those tiny SDTVs, good luck reading the tiny letters!

There's only so much you can do when there are different aspect ratios.  The transition from black-and-white to color wasn't so jarring because people could continue using their old black-and-white sets for as long as they wanted, and the only difference would be the lack of color.  But digital television is an entirely different animal, and there comes a time when people are just going to have to adapt or be left behind.

I'm honestly surprised the 4:3 safe zone is still being used so much these days.  In most European countries, for example, they gave up with that long ago and now people with SD sets just have to get used to everything being letterboxed.  And also keep in mind that the average European lives in smaller quarters than the average American, which means TV sets are generally smaller, too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatherman99 on April 01, 2015, 01:18:14 AM
I don't like how the IS2 feeds are letterboxed though.  I mean it's a 4:3 aspect ratio, and you have black bars filling nearly half of the screen. I mean those who have those tiny SDTVs, good luck reading the tiny letters!

There's only so much you can do when there are different aspect ratios.  The transition from black-and-white to color wasn't so jarring because people could continue using their old black-and-white sets for as long as they wanted, and the only difference would be the lack of color.  But digital television is an entirely different animal, and there comes a time when people are just going to have to adapt or be left behind.

I'm honestly surprised the 4:3 safe zone is still being used so much these days.  In most European countries, for example, they gave up with that long ago and now people with SD sets just have to get used to everything being letterboxed.  And also keep in mind that the average European lives in smaller quarters than the average American, which means TV sets are generally smaller, too.
I see. Thanks for explaining. But yeah, it looks like Europeans must be good at squinting :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on April 01, 2015, 10:04:06 AM
I'm glad they are running the HD feed on the SD feed. It makes sense to do so. I'm surprised it's taken this long to start doing it considering they have been in HD for almost 7 years. I guess the slow progression of IS2s may have been a factor. Also I would imagine they're saving money by getting rid of the IntelliStar in favor of running the IntelliStar2 on two feeds instead of having to operate/maintain two different STARs on two separate feeds. Besides it's not like there a major differences among the IS/IS2/heck even the IS2jr now unlike pre 2013.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on April 01, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
I'm glad they are running the HD feed on the SD feed. It makes sense to do so. I'm surprised it's taken this long to start doing it considering they have been in HD for almost 7 years. I guess the slow progression of IS2s may have been a factor. Also I would imagine they're saving money by getting rid of the IntelliStar in favor of running the IntelliStar2 on two feeds instead of having to operate/maintain two different STARs on two separate feeds. Besides it's not like there a major differences among the IS/IS2/heck even the IS2jr now unlike pre 2013.
It's true that saving money is good, but with this new HD feed simulcast, lots of the text on the screen is unreadable and Dual Feed is now gone forever. At least TWC now doesn't only use dual feed.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 01, 2015, 01:13:35 PM
Since many headends have already discontinued the TWC SD feeds in favor of IS2/HD feed simulcasts, I imagine that it won't be long before The Weather Channel will probably start forcing the remaining headends who do not yet have the IS2 (such as mine) to get one soon.  :thinking:  In the case where a headend does not offer TWC in HD, they'll probably have to get an IS2 Jr instead.  :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on April 05, 2015, 01:38:18 PM
:thinking:  In the case where a headend does not offer TWC in HD, they'll probably have to get an IS2 Jr instead.  :dunno:
My guess is that depending on the status of your cable company's agreement with TWC, they'll be forced to carry it at some point. For instance, when the agreement one before last was signed here (2010), HD carriage was pretty much mandatory. They didn't get the IS2 for another 6 months, but still. I don't think TWC would want to use an IS2Jr. because their end goal is probably full-time 16:9 much like the other major news channels (all 3 C-SPANs, FOX News, CNN/HLN, MSNBC, both CNBC and FBN. Only one not letterboxed around here is Al Jazeera America).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on April 05, 2015, 03:30:52 PM
I'm wondering how long these graphics are going to be used on the locals? really wish they had a concept much like the 1st version of the IS2
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: colonieweather on April 13, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
Time Warner discontinued SD feed here in Albany, NY... SD channel now showing HD/IS2 feed.  I was away last week and just noticed it today.. not sure when switch occurred.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 13, 2015, 05:16:38 PM
I don't like how the IS2 feeds are letterboxed though.  I mean it's a 4:3 aspect ratio, and you have black bars filling nearly half of the screen. I mean those who have those tiny SDTVs, good luck reading the tiny letters!
Letterboxing is the thing nowadays. Besides, most people have HD service by now anyway so it's not going to affect the normal viewer.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on May 15, 2015, 11:23:59 PM
Remember 3 years ago we all feared this would happen.  :rofl2:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0v9uS5qPgA&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0v9uS5qPgA&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 05, 2015, 09:05:51 AM
I caught this Tornado Week ad a few minutes ago. This most likely is a bug. Anyone else seeing this?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatherman99 on June 05, 2015, 11:14:09 AM
Maybe TWC decided two ads are better than one!  :dunno: It could be intentional.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCKelby on June 05, 2015, 02:21:33 PM
I got the same thing earlier on my IntelliStar 2. It's still there as of the 2:18 LF too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 05, 2015, 03:32:03 PM
Somehow that 'Tornado Week' bug wasn't showing on the IS1.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCKelby on June 05, 2015, 04:00:02 PM
It looks like the ad bug from 2013 so I wonder if someone hit a wrong button over in Atlanta and it brought up the copy that the IS has stored from when it was last used.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on June 05, 2015, 04:03:06 PM
Is Tornado Week even scheduled this week?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 05, 2015, 05:12:49 PM
As far as I know, no.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 05, 2015, 09:16:50 PM
Also getting the Fat Guys In The Woods background on the New Bedford IS2
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 06, 2015, 01:04:22 AM
TWC has found the perfect way to fill that empty blank space to the right on the HD locals...with an ad. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 06, 2015, 09:50:22 AM
The Tornado Week ad bug is still showing up this morning. Very, very odd.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 09, 2015, 01:24:40 AM
The IS2 from Lancaster that I had gotten a few weeks ago (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/weatherstar-tech-support/is-switched-out-for-is2-very-large-coverage-area/) has been replaced by our (I think) original IS unit.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: GEAUXmedic on June 10, 2015, 01:40:23 PM
So.. I'm finally getting local forecasts in HD on the bottom ticker, and the LOT8s starts off with the introduction including my city name, then they show the current conditions for my city, but right after it goes back to the national feed. Anyone else have this happen?

edit: never mind its normal now, I'm guessing they just had issues since it's the first time.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on June 12, 2015, 09:00:54 AM
Not quite sure when exactly but FPB finally letterboxed the IS2 on the SD feed. Our old friend Intellistar #23273 looks to have seen its final forecast.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on June 12, 2015, 10:33:40 AM
Does anyone have any pics or video of a letterboxed feed?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on June 13, 2015, 12:04:59 PM
Does anyone have any pics or video of a letterboxed feed?

How it looks here in New Bedford
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on June 13, 2015, 06:27:08 PM
Thanks for that gt1racerlHDl. Interesting, I'm not quite sure why they would do that. So you also get the L bar too?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on June 14, 2015, 11:46:39 AM
I'm not 100% sure if the STAR being shown on the SD channel around here is the IS2. The LDL and sidebar are synced up correctly but, the actual local forecasts opened with different greetings on the SD and HD channels. The SD version didn't have the local ad crawl and the tornado week ad glitch showed up only on the SD channel. I'm not sure if it's an IS2 Jr. (I don't think so) but it's still peculiar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 14, 2015, 01:26:52 PM
I'm not 100% sure if the STAR being shown on the SD channel around here is the IS2. The LDL and sidebar are synced up correctly but, the actual local forecasts opened with different greetings on the SD and HD channels. The SD version didn't have the local ad crawl and the tornado week ad glitch showed up only on the SD channel. I'm not sure if it's an IS2 Jr. (I don't think so) but it's still peculiar.
I think you may have an IS2xD Unit. I can confirm that the IS2HD and IS2xD are 2 seperate units. The IS2xD has the capability to broadcast over the SD and HD feeds simultaneously. As for the LDL and Sidebar being synced, the IS2 units have some sort of "fail-safe" in case the unit's LDL cues late. If the LDL or sidebar is cued late, the IS2, somehow, changes the LDL or sidebar to the correct product. It's the same technology in the IS2s LF "fail-safe".
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on June 14, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
I'm not 100% sure if the STAR being shown on the SD channel around here is the IS2. The LDL and sidebar are synced up correctly but, the actual local forecasts opened with different greetings on the SD and HD channels. The SD version didn't have the local ad crawl and the tornado week ad glitch showed up only on the SD channel. I'm not sure if it's an IS2 Jr. (I don't think so) but it's still peculiar.
I think you may have an IS2xD Unit. I can confirm that the IS2HD and IS2xD are 2 seperate units. The IS2xD has the capability to broadcast over the SD and HD feeds simultaneously. As for the LDL and Sidebar being synced, the IS2 units have some sort of "fail-safe" in case the unit's LDL cues late. If the LDL or sidebar is cued late, the IS2, somehow, changes the LDL or sidebar to the correct product. It's the same technology in the IS2s LF "fail-safe".
Interesting. I went into Vegas and synced up the audio and video and put them side-by-side and the SD LF cued just a bit ahead of (and I'm talking by 2 frames) the HD LF. I rendered out a video of the side-by-side, I'll see how fast I can upload it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 14, 2015, 02:31:54 PM
Hmm. That's very interesting.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on June 14, 2015, 03:00:52 PM
And here we are:
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcotEJjr6Go&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: boyercam on June 14, 2015, 03:50:16 PM
I'm not 100% sure if the STAR being shown on the SD channel around here is the IS2. The LDL and sidebar are synced up correctly but, the actual local forecasts opened with different greetings on the SD and HD channels. The SD version didn't have the local ad crawl and the tornado week ad glitch showed up only on the SD channel. I'm not sure if it's an IS2 Jr. (I don't think so) but it's still peculiar.
I think you may have an IS2xD Unit. I can confirm that the IS2HD and IS2xD are 2 seperate units. The IS2xD has the capability to broadcast over the SD and HD feeds simultaneously. As for the LDL and Sidebar being synced, the IS2 units have some sort of "fail-safe" in case the unit's LDL cues late. If the LDL or sidebar is cued late, the IS2, somehow, changes the LDL or sidebar to the correct product. It's the same technology in the IS2s LF "fail-safe".

Mind blown, How does this thing not overheat. I wonder if the IS2xD unit looks different to the normal IS?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 14, 2015, 04:35:23 PM
I'm not 100% sure if the STAR being shown on the SD channel around here is the IS2. The LDL and sidebar are synced up correctly but, the actual local forecasts opened with different greetings on the SD and HD channels. The SD version didn't have the local ad crawl and the tornado week ad glitch showed up only on the SD channel. I'm not sure if it's an IS2 Jr. (I don't think so) but it's still peculiar.
I think you may have an IS2xD Unit. I can confirm that the IS2HD and IS2xD are 2 seperate units. The IS2xD has the capability to broadcast over the SD and HD feeds simultaneously. As for the LDL and Sidebar being synced, the IS2 units have some sort of "fail-safe" in case the unit's LDL cues late. If the LDL or sidebar is cued late, the IS2, somehow, changes the LDL or sidebar to the correct product. It's the same technology in the IS2s LF "fail-safe".

Mind blown, How does this thing not overheat. I wonder if the IS2xD unit looks different to the normal IS?
The IS2xD, just like the IS2 and IS2HD look different than the IS. In the case of the IS2xD, it uses the same metal case the IS2Jr uses.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 22, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
It seems like TWC has updated the IS2 silently removing the product names under the sidebar, and moving the ad crawl closer to the local forecast products. I included pictures from the McAllen, TX IS2 and the Slatington, PA IS2. (Credit saxlover98) The national feed has the blank space under the sidebar as well.

EDIT: The sidebar issue may not be part of the update. It might be a bug on both the Nat'l and local feeds.
EDIT #2: TWC added a new format to the LDL LOT8s plus a new Logo for it. I included an image of it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCKelby on June 22, 2015, 10:34:19 PM
I always thought there was no dual feed on HD but I was wrong. Less than a minute after longform started at 10, I got a breaking now come up and the national feed with the longform LDL. For some reason even though I'm in eastern PA I get the coverage for the stuff going on in Michigan right now. Attached are pictures from 10:15 from Slatington PA and McAllen, TX (credit: Luesjo12) showing the dual feed in action. Also, it seems TWC forgot to remove the Tropical Summary slides for Ana and Bill from the national sidebar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on June 23, 2015, 10:07:39 PM
With this new minor update, TWC has changed the position of the Warning/Watch/Advisory crawl. The crawl now covers the News ticker which minimizes confusion/strain on the eyes from viewing two different crawls. IMO, it was a good choice.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 24, 2015, 02:01:34 AM
That is a great idea. Should have always been that way.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on June 30, 2015, 07:59:15 PM
The updated weather advisory scroll now features the time/temperature stamp, seen here during an LF. It's just like old times.  B)

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/is2_jr_time_stamp_zps8k8zd1km.jpg)

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCKelby on July 04, 2015, 11:38:36 AM
Happy 4th of July everyone! TWC pulled out the 4th of July graphics again this year
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQvuH_yuNVU&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: colonieweather on July 08, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
It seems like TWC has updated the IS2 silently removing the product names under the sidebar, and moving the ad crawl closer to the local forecast products. I included pictures from the McAllen, TX IS2 and the Slatington, PA IS2. (Credit saxlover98) The national feed has the blank space under the sidebar as well.

EDIT: The sidebar issue may not be part of the update. It might be a bug on both the Nat'l and local feeds.
EDIT #2: TWC added a new format to the LDL LOT8s plus a new Logo for it. I included an image of it.

It's been a few weeks since update, so the local product rundown missing in sidebar is permanent?  If so, interesting move... a lot of empty space there now.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 10, 2015, 06:51:41 PM
So I have an interesting conundrum.

IStar 26820 is gone.  The SD channel is now letterboxed widescreen with the L-bar (literally useless information) and the Locals with Jim C.'s voice.  Great!

The HD channel still has no local.  What gives (and please don't say IStar 2 Jr or whatever that is)?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 10, 2015, 06:59:52 PM
So I have an interesting conundrum.

IStar 26820 is gone.  The SD channel is now letterboxed widescreen with the L-bar (literally useless information) and the Locals with Jim C.'s voice.  Great!

The HD channel still has no local.  What gives (and please don't say IStar 2 Jr or whatever that is)?
This was talked about a few pages back, but your headend probably has an IntelliStar 2 XD hooked up. It's a newer-model IS2 that is capable of sending out both an HD and SD signal and aesthetically has subtle differences from the original IS2.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on July 10, 2015, 09:51:24 PM
I noticed that the new blue long-form TWC/LOT8s logo does not appear for IS1 units, as I checked my still-in-use IS1 just now. I'm guessing TWC must have officially stopped updating the IS1s as they are about to be retired soon. :unsure: :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 11, 2015, 03:59:12 PM
So I have an interesting conundrum.

IStar 26820 is gone.  The SD channel is now letterboxed widescreen with the L-bar (literally useless information) and the Locals with Jim C.'s voice.  Great!

The HD channel still has no local.  What gives (and please don't say IStar 2 Jr or whatever that is)?
This was talked about a few pages back, but your headend probably has an IntelliStar 2 XD hooked up. It's a newer-model IS2 that is capable of sending out both an HD and SD signal and aesthetically has subtle differences from the original IS2.
So....is it a flaw or a feature it's not doing locals in HD?  Maybe I need to post one floor down (if the STAR Team still floats around here).

Apologies in advance for asking questions...been a while since I've been around.

(So much wasted space on the widescreen Locals.)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 11, 2015, 04:05:51 PM
(So much wasted space on the widescreen Locals.)

I agree.  You'd think, almost two years later, they'd have found something to occupy that space by now other than occasional ads or promos for upcoming programs.  Usually, though, it's just an extended part of the photo with no useful information in there at all.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on July 11, 2015, 06:51:01 PM
(So much wasted space on the widescreen Locals.)

I agree.  You'd think, almost two years later, they'd have found something to occupy that space by now other than occasional ads or promos for upcoming programs.  Usually, though, it's just an extended part of the photo with no useful information in there at all.

Agree as well, The sidebar is so useless especially on WCL when the rundown is replaced by "Top Stories". TWC should of have the IS2 place a small doppler radar where the local product rundown use to be
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 11, 2015, 10:51:29 PM
So I have an interesting conundrum.

IStar 26820 is gone.  The SD channel is now letterboxed widescreen with the L-bar (literally useless information) and the Locals with Jim C.'s voice.  Great!

The HD channel still has no local.  What gives (and please don't say IStar 2 Jr or whatever that is)?
This was talked about a few pages back, but your headend probably has an IntelliStar 2 XD hooked up. It's a newer-model IS2 that is capable of sending out both an HD and SD signal and aesthetically has subtle differences from the original IS2.
So....is it a flaw or a feature it's not doing locals in HD?  Maybe I need to post one floor down (if the STAR Team still floats around here).

Apologies in advance for asking questions...been a while since I've been around.

(So much wasted space on the widescreen Locals.)

This is a very odd situation if SD is letterboxed and has a local but HD does not.  Because if the SD feed is letterboxed, isn't that just the HD feed, just letterboxed to fit SD?  So why the heck would one have a local and one wouldn't?

You can try to make a new topic regarding this in Tech Support.  The STAR Team hasn't posted in a few months, but they may peek at the thread every once in awhile.  (Unless this is a simple cable concept I'm completely missing?)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on July 12, 2015, 07:23:13 AM
I agree that this is very odd. The IS units are getting harder to understand and differentiate from each other.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: pokedude750 on July 12, 2015, 02:45:17 PM
I'm honestly waiting for a Storm Alert for Tomorrow
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on July 12, 2015, 02:58:08 PM
You know what I found to be useless? The IS2jr., I mean really what the heck was the point of making this STAR unit? :dunno: If TWC's long term plan was to have the IS2 on both SD/HD feeds for all cable headends, why waste time making/implementing another STAR when they could have just upgraded the legacy STARs to IntelliStars for the time being.

I guess it's just one of those dumb things I can never seem to understand about TV networks. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on July 13, 2015, 01:13:27 AM
You know what I found to be useless? The IS2jr., I mean really what the heck was the point of making this STAR unit? :dunno: If TWC's long term plan was to have the IS2 on both SD/HD feeds for all cable headends, why waste time making/implementing another STAR when they could have just upgraded the legacy STARs to IntelliStars for the time being.

I guess it's just one of those dumb things I can never seem to understand about TV networks. :rolleyes:

My best guess for the purpose of designing the IS2 Jr was for usage on the smaller cable headends, and I mean really small headends with a very limited channel lineup. For example, the Charter headend in Grand Coulee, WA has a lineup that only goes up to 99 and has no digital or HD channels whatsoever.  :no: That headend upgraded from a WeatherSTAR 4000 to an IS2 Jr last year, and chances are they had a really tight budget and couldn't afford the more expensive IS2 HD as they do not carry TWC in HD.

On the upgrade notice letter to headends I posted on the forums a while back, the headend that received the notice had a choice to upgrade to an IS2 HD, IS2 Jr or both, and there is no doubt that the notice also applied to smaller headends who still have the IS1 and do not have TWC in HD.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 13, 2015, 08:48:33 AM
You know what I found to be useless? The IS2jr., I mean really what the heck was the point of making this STAR unit? :dunno: If TWC's long term plan was to have the IS2 on both SD/HD feeds for all cable headends, why waste time making/implementing another STAR when they could have just upgraded the legacy STARs to IntelliStars for the time being.

I guess it's just one of those dumb things I can never seem to understand about TV networks. :rolleyes:
It's already been mentioned, but it really has to do with efficiency in costs. Not only that, but probably power and bandwidth as well. Also, the IntelliStar is probably most definitely not manufactured anymore (and it's probably been this way even since before WATT and/or the legacy STAR shutoff), so that's why headends aren't "upgrading" to IntelliStars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 13, 2015, 12:51:54 PM
This just came to me the other day, but anyone think this will affect Weatherscan's fate? Since it's essentially the same hardware (and likely the same feed) as the domestic IS.  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 13, 2015, 01:23:34 PM
All IntelliStar SD's are gradually being replaced by one of the newer models.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on July 13, 2015, 04:04:44 PM
This just came to me the other day, but anyone think this will affect Weatherscan's fate? Since it's essentially the same hardware (and likely the same feed) as the domestic IS.  :thinking:
Xfinity in my local area still has the IS1 and Weatherscan. I've been wondering the exact thing myself, and I've been watching TWC more recently to see if they've yet to upgrade.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mightynine on July 13, 2015, 04:40:28 PM
All IntelliStar SD's are gradually being replaced by one of the newer models.

So are you saying the current IS models can go into Weatherscan mode?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 13, 2015, 10:36:54 PM
All IntelliStar SD's are gradually being replaced by one of the newer models.

So are you saying the current IS models can go into Weatherscan mode?

They have different software installed.  The regular TWC Intellistars are programmed for the local forecasts, LDL, and so on, while the Weatherscan IntelliStars have a different software package installed.  One can't just be swapped for the other with the press of a button.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatherman99 on July 14, 2015, 12:03:52 AM
This just came to me the other day, but anyone think this will affect Weatherscan's fate? Since it's essentially the same hardware (and likely the same feed) as the domestic IS.  :thinking:
I think weatherscan can share the feed from the IS2 SD as well as the IS2 Jr. But since the IS1 is soon to abolish, you can't rule out that weatherscan intelliStars could become extinct as well as the IS1 units. Not sure what TWC has planned for the remaining weatherscan intelliStars.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 14, 2015, 01:49:34 AM
All IntelliStar SD's are gradually being replaced by one of the newer models.

So are you saying the current IS models can go into Weatherscan mode?

No I'm talking about TWC not Weathercan. All SD Istars on TWC are gradually being upgraded. Weatherscans fate is undetermined though I'd say it's future looks grim.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 14, 2015, 06:35:36 AM
No I'm talking about TWC not Weathercan. All SD Istars on TWC are gradually being upgraded. Weatherscans fate is undetermined though I'd say it's future looks grim.

It's been posted in this forum for quite a while now that there are simply no Weatherscan updates in the works at all.  In other words, what already exists will continue to exist as it is, no better and no worse, simply because nothing's changing.  Eventually the IntelliStar units will begin to wear out.  What will happen when this becomes an issue?  I don't know.  Maybe there's still a stock of replacement units that can be shipped out.  Or, most likely, maybe the service will just be allowed to die off as IntelliStars begin to stop working, one by one, or as cable companies quietly drop the service, until Weatherscan simply ceases to be.  Or, also a possibility, maybe The Weather Channel will just discontinue the service on its own one of these days.

So, grim, perhaps, but it's not dead quite yet.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on July 15, 2015, 02:34:02 PM
Hasn't anyone visited the thought that with all of the recovered IS1's, they could be used as spare parts for Weatherscan units..?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on July 15, 2015, 03:29:01 PM
Hasn't anyone visited the thought that with all of the recovered IS1's, they could be used as spare parts for Weatherscan units..?
That is very true, but the FCC would probably not allow weatherscan to remain on air without a method of reading out Warning/Watch/Advisory crawls. After all, that's one of the main reasons why the IntelliStar units are being replaced.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on July 15, 2015, 04:43:37 PM
Hasn't anyone visited the thought that with all of the recovered IS1's, they could be used as spare parts for Weatherscan units..?
That is very true, but the FCC would probably not allow weatherscan to remain on air without a method of reading out Warning/Watch/Advisory crawls. After all, that's one of the main reasons why the IntelliStar units are being replaced.

I've always wondered about how much jurisdiction the FCC has over a cable channel. I thought if it was broadcast OTA, it would have to follow these rules. Is this documented by the FCC somewhere?? If there was such a rule by then, when was it updated?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on July 15, 2015, 05:42:39 PM
Hasn't anyone visited the thought that with all of the recovered IS1's, they could be used as spare parts for Weatherscan units..?

That is very true, but the FCC would probably not allow weatherscan to remain on air without a method of reading out Warning/Watch/Advisory crawls. After all, that's one of the main reasons why the IntelliStar units are being replaced.


I've always wondered about how much jurisdiction the FCC has over a cable channel. I thought if it was broadcast OTA, it would have to follow these rules. Is this documented by the FCC somewhere?? If there was such a rule by then, when was it updated?

I found a pretty long PDF on the FCC website about a waiver that extended the audible crawl rule deadline. https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-632A1.pdf (https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-632A1.pdf)
I also found this PDF from NAB that also talks more about the Audible crawl rule, but in simpler, shorter terms. According to NAB's PDF, any crawl that a TV station airs during non newscast programming or during an Emergency Alert System activation must be read aurally using a second audio stream.
http://www.nab.org/xert/sciTech/2015/TV01262015.pdf (http://www.nab.org/xert/sciTech/2015/TV01262015.pdf)
What I didn't find was if cable networks needed to abide by the FCC rule.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on July 19, 2015, 08:27:29 PM
No I'm talking about TWC not Weathercan. All SD Istars on TWC are gradually being upgraded. Weatherscans fate is undetermined though I'd say it's future looks grim.

It's been posted in this forum for quite a while now that there are simply no Weatherscan updates in the works at all.  In other words, what already exists will continue to exist as it is, no better and no worse, simply because nothing's changing.  Eventually the IntelliStar units will begin to wear out.  What will happen when this becomes an issue?  I don't know.  Maybe there's still a stock of replacement units that can be shipped out.  Or, most likely, maybe the service will just be allowed to die off as IntelliStars begin to stop working, one by one, or as cable companies quietly drop the service, until Weatherscan simply ceases to be.  Or, also a possibility, maybe The Weather Channel will just discontinue the service on its own one of these days.

So, grim, perhaps, but it's not dead quite yet.
I would imagine that this is the most likely course. It would probably cost TWC too much to recall all of the units or issue replacement parts. I do know they were still doing this as of last December though, so...

In any case, TWC is still signing agreements with cable providers keeping WxScan through at least 2018 so, it's not going anywhere for at least the immediate future.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on July 20, 2015, 05:49:21 PM
I haven't posted anything LF-related for a long time now (since I haven't had cable since 2008). But just two days ago, while visiting a hotel (since my stupid AC broke), I just found out that my lone cable system (Comcast) just recently replaced their IntelliStar with the IntelliStar 2. It turns out IntelliStar #22878 (Peoria, IL) is no more. :( I'm not sure when exactly it was replaced, but it's the first time I've ever seen the IntelliStar 2 in person.

But here is the catch, the hotel room I was in simulcasts the actual HD feed of TWC, but no IS2 (not even local commercials). Yet, I channel surfed most of the other cable channels on the hotel HDTV (all of the channels appear to be all HD feeds of most major cable networks), and when I tuned to CNN, a local commercial came on that also featured some Xfinity related-promos. In the hotel lobby however, the HDTV was tuned to what appeared to be Comcast's fake "SD feed" of TWC and the weird thing is, I saw the IS2, but letterboxed. :dunno: So it appears that the hotel I was in was simulcasting from Comcast (even in the lobby).

I still wish cable systems would stop down converting their IS2s to make a fake digital MPEG-2 "SD feed" that's fully letterboxed and use the IS2 only on the actual MPEG-4 HD feed. I also wish cable systems would combine both the IS2 for the HD simulcast and the IS2Jr. for the SD simulcast so that way, the actual SD simulcast wouldn't be letterboxed and still have the main IS2 shown only on the actual HD simulcast plus the IS2Jr. on the SD simulcast. It's still a waste of bandwidth.

Unfortunately, I didn't have a camera with me or a TV tuner capture adapter.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on July 22, 2015, 01:21:34 PM
I still wish cable systems would stop down converting their IS2s to make a fake digital MPEG-2 "SD feed" that's fully letterboxed and use the IS2 only on the actual MPEG-4 HD feed. I also wish cable systems would combine both the IS2 for the HD simulcast and the IS2Jr. for the SD simulcast so that way, the actual SD simulcast wouldn't be letterboxed and still have the main IS2 shown only on the actual HD simulcast plus the IS2Jr. on the SD simulcast. It's still a waste of bandwidth.

The thing is, most headends prefer to just having the IS2 and the HD feed simulcast alone, primarily to avoid the time and money maintaining another STAR (i.e. the IS2 Jr). The acquisition of a STAR system isn't exactly priority number one for a lot of cable headends (e.g. think of Comcast and their X1 DVR systems) even though The Weather Channel requires headends with the TV network to do so.

Also, I do like the idea of running the IS2 Jr through an IS2/HD feed simulcast, but that idea seems technologically impossible IMO. :no:  Even if it was possible, the trouble is that headends would have to program the IS2 to not display LFs and only LDLs, vice versa for the IS2 Jr. Another problem is that you'd probably be hearing Cantore's narrations twice during LFs like an echo effect, because the IS2 HD would be simultaneously running in the background behind the IS2 Jr. So, the thought of running an IS2 Jr through a letterboxed HD feed simulcast may sound great, but as I said, that idea is technologically impossible.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on July 24, 2015, 02:55:08 PM
Xfinity in my local area still has the IS1 and Weatherscan. I've been wondering the exact thing myself, and I've been watching TWC more recently to see if they've yet to upgrade.
As of this morning, IntelliSTAR #22941 (Comcast/Xfinity) has been retired after a 9-day outage. It was replaced with an I2jr. Weatherscan continues to live on.
IS #22941's Replacement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T1UbPx_P8M#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Trevor on July 24, 2015, 03:44:32 PM
No video, but #24745 in Memphis on Comcast is dead too. Finally got the IS2 and it's being letterboxed on SD.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 24, 2015, 07:02:50 PM
Those with Comcast/Xfinity headends please post if you get the HD Local when your SD Star changes, please.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on July 25, 2015, 06:33:31 PM
I still wish cable systems would stop down converting their IS2s to make a fake digital MPEG-2 "SD feed" that's fully letterboxed and use the IS2 only on the actual MPEG-4 HD feed. I also wish cable systems would combine both the IS2 for the HD simulcast and the IS2Jr. for the SD simulcast so that way, the actual SD simulcast wouldn't be letterboxed and still have the main IS2 shown only on the actual HD simulcast plus the IS2Jr. on the SD simulcast. It's still a waste of bandwidth.

The thing is, most headends prefer to just having the IS2 and the HD feed simulcast alone, primarily to avoid the time and money maintaining another STAR (i.e. the IS2 Jr). The acquisition of a STAR system isn't exactly priority number one for a lot of cable headends (e.g. think of Comcast and their X1 DVR systems) even though The Weather Channel requires headends with the TV network to do so.

Also, I do like the idea of running the IS2 Jr through an IS2/HD feed simulcast, but that idea seems technologically impossible IMO. :no:  Even if it was possible, the trouble is that headends would have to program the IS2 to not display LFs and only LDLs, vice versa for the IS2 Jr. Another problem is that you'd probably be hearing Cantore's narrations twice during LFs like an echo effect, because the IS2 HD would be simultaneously running in the background behind the IS2 Jr. So, the thought of running an IS2 Jr through a letterboxed HD feed simulcast may sound great, but as I said, that idea is technologically impossible.
But personally, (especially with older 4:3 only SD TVs), I've always hated widescreen mainly because of the cost of getting a new HDTV. I've always had preferred backwards compatibility with older TVs in the post analog cable era. Even back in the early days of cable networks broadcasting in HD back in the late 2000s, networks like CNN, ESPN, MSNBC, and even Fox News used to provide 4:3-safe crop-friendly compatibility, but in recent years however, they all eventually jumped on the widescreen heavy bandwagon. Even an old 1950's era Zenith B/W TV or even a mid-2000s era Sony Trinitron SD TV would now have to deal with what media conglomerates are doing by letterboxing their broadcasts. Again, I have nothing against HDTVs in general; it's just that it's still expensive to this very day.

But after all, TWC is even one of the last networks to still have 4:3-safe broadcasts on their actual SD feed along with CNBC's SD feed as well as most NBC News programs (like Today, NBC Nightly News, and Meet the Press). ABC and CBS News also still have 4:3-safe broadcasts on all of their newscasts and even C-SPAN, C-SPAN 2, HSN, and QVC also still have 4:3-safe broadcasts.

If TWC were to eventually go permanently widescreen only on their actual SD feed like on most other cable networks, then the IS2Jr. would already be considered obsolete.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Eric on July 26, 2015, 02:30:03 AM
I can understand the letterboxing, though.

To keep a 4:3 safe area means the extra benefit of widescreen is basically wasted because nothing of any importance can be put on the sides of the screen.  Basically, it's like watching a square screen with just window dressing on the sides.  I prefer widescreen to actually mean widescreen, meaning there's stuff going on all throughout the picture.  Then again, I've been watching HDTV nearly exclusively since 2010 and entirely exclusively a year later.

Of course, it must be getting really annoying if you're watching an analogue set to have pretty much everything letterboxed these days, except for (maybe) local news and a small handful of other programs.  Back in the day I spent a lot of effort looking for widescreen movies on VHS instead of pan-and-scan simply because I didn't want to miss what was going on in the rest of the picture in the original version.  Yes, the resolution suffered - VHS had less resolution than broadcast television, and letterbox made the picture even smaller, but, the videophile I am, I thought it was worth it just to see the entire picture.  Of course, I probably would have started to go insane seeing everything in letterbox on nearly every channel.  So much wasted space.

That said, widescreen and HDTV are certainly the present of television broadcasting, and maintaining compatibility with old technology can only go on for so long.  Digital adapters for antennas and analogue-compatible cable boxes and satellite receivers still allow analogue sets to continue living instead of having to die before their time, and TV sets aren't so cheap that they can be readily discarded on a whim.  (I just got lucky in 2010 when my 17-year-old set finally bit the bullet.  And 17 years is pretty darn good for a TV set!  If it hadn't have died I'd probably still be using it, but I took the fortuitous timing to ugrade to HDTV, especially it had since become impossible to buy an analogue CRT set.)

Then again, maybe there's still an option other than forced letterboxing.  Most digital adapters I know of (and I sell them for a living) allow you to choose between 4:3 and 16:9, regardless of the original aspect of the program, so you can choose to have empty space at the top and bottom of the screen, or you can fill the screen and simply miss what's taking place on the sides.  (I even saw one that will compress the width of 16:9 to fill a 4:3 screen in both directions, but that just looks odd.)  Cable boxes differ widely, but, out of curiosity, I decided to see what options were available on mine for analogue sets.  Before a year and a half ago it was possible to choose between 4:3 and 16:9 on the analogue channels, but now that my cable company has gone all-digital that option appears to have disappeared.  (I have no means of testing it one way or the other, however.)

As I said, I can understand not wanting to get rid of a TV set that's still in perfect working order, even if it is considered "obsolete" by today's standards.  But the price of HDTV sets is dropping.  The cheapest 20" set that I sell is already $119.99.  I'm not saying it's the greatest model in the world, but it's a sign of how prices are slowly but steadily going down.  I bought a 40" set a couple of years ago for just over $200 online, and that was considered a steal at the time.  I didn't need it at the time, since I already had a 32" in the living room and 20" in the bedroom, but it was such a steal that I couldn't let it pass me by.  It's possible now - just a couple of years later - to get the same size on sale for nearly the same amount that I paid.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 29, 2015, 01:08:48 PM
Hi Blue  Radar!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 29, 2015, 02:30:26 PM
Is this an update or was that some type of error?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 29, 2015, 03:43:19 PM
Is this an update or was that some type of error?

I just tuned in today and I was wondering the same thing
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 29, 2015, 03:45:28 PM
Still on as of 3:38pm eastern
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on July 29, 2015, 04:39:45 PM
It's a bug. That's not happening to my radar.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: iKJames on August 04, 2015, 05:17:28 PM
I have a friend who's been sharing various Local on the 8s he's seen at hotels on his vacation with me; IntelliSTAR #22568 (Cox/Norfolk, VA) still survives from what I can tell, and appears there's an Intellistar 2 Jr. in use down in NC that's serving Marion, NC forecasts which has no previous records from what I can find.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatherman99 on August 06, 2015, 08:44:05 PM
Hi Blue  Radar!
This just happened to Orlando's IS2 unit. During the 7:28 PM LF. When the local Doppler radar (zoomed in) map was shown. I waited for the next LF and it was normalized. Very strange glitch though.  :dunno:

This happened again during the 10:18 PM LF. Only this time the regional radar map was blue.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on August 08, 2015, 10:28:17 PM
I guess I spoke too soon. :P It just showed up on McAllen's IS2 at 9:18PM. Strangely enough, the previous LF showed a frozen radar screen. I included a screenshot of a video I took of it.

EDIT: Here's an LF I recorded on my PVR
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgNzPlVn4Jw#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCKelby on August 09, 2015, 08:46:35 AM
My IS 2 got bitten by the blue bug too this morning

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2YYO_rqksQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on August 11, 2015, 05:39:16 PM
I think my local headend really hated the i2jr, as they've ditched it for the i2XD!   :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci666k5sP6Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci666k5sP6Y)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 15, 2015, 08:51:00 AM
Those with Comcast/Xfinity headends please post if you get the HD Local when your SD Star changes, please.
Heh, I now have the HD Local.  Looks even better in HD to be honest.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 19, 2015, 08:07:47 PM
Are they EVER gonna change the LOT8s music??
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 19, 2015, 10:01:21 PM
Are they EVER gonna change the LOT8s music??
I'll take this over Taylor Swift any day.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on August 20, 2015, 05:43:18 PM
Are they EVER gonna change the LOT8s music??
IDK, The Television department seem to be real stiffs about this. This is why I can't bear the channel now. Yet I thought 2012 marked the absolute worst for TWC but 2015 is just unbearable in all aspects (graphics, schedule, music .etc)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on August 20, 2015, 06:11:41 PM
Are they EVER gonna change the LOT8s music??
IDK, The Television department seem to be real stiffs about this. This is why I can't bear the channel now. Yet I thought 2012 marked the absolute worst for TWC but 2015 is just unbearable in all aspects (graphics, schedule, music .etc)
I couldn't agree any more. I will be happy when they go back to the old days of LF music, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 02, 2015, 09:11:02 PM
I STILL CAN'T GET THIS SONG OUTTA MY HEAD :( #ForeverUnknown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KwestMX2 on September 05, 2015, 07:06:35 AM
I STILL CAN'T GET THIS SONG OUTTA MY HEAD :( #ForeverUnknown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo)

Perhaps Production Music. i know most music on tv these days come from either:

Extreme Music
EMIPM
WCPM
UNIPPM

Could be either one of those.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 10, 2015, 08:23:53 PM
I STILL CAN'T GET THIS SONG OUTTA MY HEAD :( #ForeverUnknown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo)

Perhaps Production Music. i know most music on tv these days come from either:

Extreme Music
EMIPM
WCPM
UNIPPM

Could be either one of those.
It was used in this video. I have not been able to even get a copyright tag on YT. But if there is a way to contact the creators of Family Matters...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jq5WN_rv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jq5WN_rv8)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ravensfan5927 on September 12, 2015, 12:16:53 AM
I STILL CAN'T GET THIS SONG OUTTA MY HEAD :( #ForeverUnknown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo)

Perhaps Production Music. i know most music on tv these days come from either:

Extreme Music
EMIPM
WCPM
UNIPPM

Could be either one of those.
It was used in this video. I have not been able to even get a copyright tag on YT. But if there is a way to contact the creators of Family Matters...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jq5WN_rv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jq5WN_rv8)

I have gotten in contact with the creator of Family Matters on this song, hopefully he can lead us into the right direction.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on September 17, 2015, 07:52:57 PM
I STILL CAN'T GET THIS SONG OUTTA MY HEAD :( #ForeverUnknown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo)

Perhaps Production Music. i know most music on tv these days come from either:

Extreme Music
EMIPM
WCPM
UNIPPM

Could be either one of those.
It was used in this video. I have not been able to even get a copyright tag on YT. But if there is a way to contact the creators of Family Matters...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jq5WN_rv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jq5WN_rv8)

I have gotten in contact with the creator of Family Matters on this song, hopefully he can lead us into the right direction.
Have you heard back?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on September 17, 2015, 09:03:38 PM
While we're on the subject of 2012 music, has anyone had any luck with Yohan Bjork?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: pokedude750 on September 18, 2015, 10:41:38 PM
The Hillsdale SD Intellistar 2 JR is about to be replaced, by a headend in a different county, with a different CWA, therefore we won't get local TWC info anymore until Comcast ponies up for a HD Headend for us.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 23, 2015, 11:25:01 AM
There appears to be no holiday graphics today (first day of Autumn) on both the local and satellite LFs. The holiday countdown wheel was dropped from yesterday's sidebar graphics updates so I'm guessing that could explain why. :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lotologist492 on September 24, 2015, 01:02:45 AM
I also noticed there were no autumn backgrounds for the satellite LF's.  The exception was at 7:08AM ET and 8:08AM ET, during AMHQ; Those two LF's had the autumn scenes. 

This screams apathy on the part of TWC.  These LF backgrounds are obviously in their library and would have cost them ZERO to implement.  For all the noise regarding cut backs of celebrity talent (Al Roker) to save money, simply using the change of seasons to add to the flavor of the programming seems to be a no brainer.

But - - having been a loyal viewer since the 1980's, I see the trend.  TWC will spend a heap of cash to bring in celebrities but will ignore the simple and free (no licensing required) things to make their channel more of a pleasure to watch.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Adrian on September 24, 2015, 01:45:26 AM
I also noticed there were no autumn backgrounds for the satellite LF's.  The exception was at 7:08AM ET and 8:08AM ET, during AMHQ; Those two LF's had the autumn scenes. 

This screams apathy on the part of TWC.  These LF backgrounds are obviously in their library and would have cost them ZERO to implement.  For all the noise regarding cut backs of celebrity talent (Al Roker) to save money, simply using the change of seasons to add to the flavor of the programming seems to be a no brainer.

But - - having been a loyal viewer since the 1980's, I see the trend.  TWC will spend a heap of cash to bring in celebrities but will ignore the simple and free (no licensing required) things to make their channel more of a pleasure to watch.

For those with the IS2, all we get is a "Weather Underground" background.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ravensfan5927 on September 26, 2015, 01:27:09 PM
Are they EVER gonna change the LOT8s music??
I'll take this over Taylor Swift any day.

I completely agree. Whenever I feel annoyed at the current music selection I go back and watch Intellistar videos from 2012-2013 and it makes me feel a lot better about what we currently have  :blink: :whistling:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ravensfan5927 on September 26, 2015, 01:28:39 PM
I STILL CAN'T GET THIS SONG OUTTA MY HEAD :( #ForeverUnknown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo)

Perhaps Production Music. i know most music on tv these days come from either:

Extreme Music
EMIPM
WCPM
UNIPPM

Could be either one of those.
It was used in this video. I have not been able to even get a copyright tag on YT. But if there is a way to contact the creators of Family Matters...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jq5WN_rv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jq5WN_rv8)

I have gotten in contact with the creator of Family Matters on this song, hopefully he can lead us into the right direction.
Have you heard back?

Nope  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: KwestMX2 on September 27, 2015, 08:08:58 PM
well from what i researched the music is not anywhere on APM or UNIPPM or Extreme Music so its likely that it came from Transition Music or ImagemPM.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ndinminot on September 30, 2015, 04:46:34 PM
I also noticed there were no autumn backgrounds for the satellite LF's.  The exception was at 7:08AM ET and 8:08AM ET, during AMHQ; Those two LF's had the autumn scenes. 

This screams apathy on the part of TWC.  These LF backgrounds are obviously in their library and would have cost them ZERO to implement.  For all the noise regarding cut backs of celebrity talent (Al Roker) to save money, simply using the change of seasons to add to the flavor of the programming seems to be a no brainer.

But - - having been a loyal viewer since the 1980's, I see the trend.  TWC will spend a heap of cash to bring in celebrities but will ignore the simple and free (no licensing required) things to make their channel more of a pleasure to watch.


I am a contemporary with ya, been a TWC fan since 1991, but since NBC took over and especially the last four years they have been total #$%$. maybe if they get rid of all longform like they said they would i might be interested again, but not betting on it  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 06, 2015, 11:31:46 AM
I find it interesting that my Charter headend continues to use an IntelliSTAR 1, even though it's now been 5 days after TWC's supposed 'deadline' to replace all IS1s with either the IS2 XD or the IS2 Jr.  :unsure: Since Astoria and other IS1 headends do have until November 16th to get a replacement unit (as TWC's letter stated) I guess Charter decided they wanted to keep their IS1 up and running a little longer. :P
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on October 13, 2015, 10:27:51 PM
Well it seems like I'm going to burn tonight. Seems like a nationwide bug.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on October 13, 2015, 10:53:25 PM
Seeing that glitch on my still-in-use IS1 as well:

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/is1%20999%20degrees%20glitch_zpszrpqdyoc.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on October 13, 2015, 11:00:12 PM
Mobile app showing this too..
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: iKJames on October 13, 2015, 11:28:17 PM
Either it's been fixed, or the one here isn't effected as I just checked.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on October 14, 2015, 07:52:43 AM
Either it's been fixed, or the one here isn't effected as I just checked.
It was fixed on our I2XD's primary city before the full screen LF at 10:17 last night, but I just so happened to catch the LDL forecast throwing around signs of the apocalypse.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 05, 2015, 11:37:05 AM
Now that it's November 5th, five weeks after TWC's alleged 'deadline' to replace all remaining IntelliSTAR 1 units, I find it amazing how there are still very few IS1 units left out there including mine.  :blink:  I wonder what will happen if all IS1 cable headends fail to acquire an IntelliSTAR 2 XD or Jr within 11 days from now, when TWC is supposed to discontinue IS1 service.  :thinking:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: curtjr4 on November 05, 2015, 07:16:27 PM
Now that it's November 5th, five weeks after TWC's alleged 'deadline' to replace all remaining IntelliSTAR 1 units, I find it amazing how there are still very few IS1 units left out there including mine.  :blink:  I wonder what will happen if all IS1 cable headends fail to acquire an IntelliSTAR 2 XD or Jr within 11 days from now, when TWC is supposed to discontinue IS1 service.  :thinking:
Mine was replaced not too long ago... probably about a week ago with an IS2Jr.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 08, 2015, 09:04:14 PM
Now that it's November 5th, five weeks after TWC's alleged 'deadline' to replace all remaining IntelliSTAR 1 units, I find it amazing how there are still very few IS1 units left out there including mine.  :blink:  I wonder what will happen if all IS1 cable headends fail to acquire an IntelliSTAR 2 XD or Jr within 11 days from now, when TWC is supposed to discontinue IS1 service.  :thinking:
Either a local forecast with no report (if they will still be cued, which i doubt) or the satellite LF. I'm sure they will all be replaced though, the affiliates were given plenty of notice.  Also it should be noted that the affiliates are not paying a dime to upgrade their IS1.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: iKJames on November 12, 2015, 09:06:45 AM
I saw LOT8's a few times yesterday and noticed they had it themed for Veteran's Day. They also had the High Wind Warning that's issued for here on it too, which is the first time I've seen a warning on it compared to solely on the LDL
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 12, 2015, 05:48:31 PM
Earlier today I asked TWC's Tech Support about Astoria's still-in-use IntelliSTAR 1, and this was the response that I received from Tony:

Quote
Jim - According to our records, Charter Astoria has already switched over to the I2 star back on 10/12 for the SD service.  The look of the local would not change much, the difference is very slight.

Tony F
Local on the 8's Support

So, it appears that Astoria does already have an IS2, but for some strange reason, I'm still seeing the IS1 feed where I am, across the river in Pacific County.  :unsure: I'm guessing maybe Charter hasn't switched to the IS2 feed up here yet, but they have already for the viewers down in Astoria and neighboring Seaside. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on November 12, 2015, 08:13:20 PM
Earlier today I asked TWC's Tech Support about Astoria's still-in-use IntelliSTAR 1, and this was the response that I received from Tony:

Quote
Jim - According to our records, Charter Astoria has already switched over to the I2 star back on 10/12 for the SD service.  The look of the local would not change much, the difference is very slight.

Tony F
Local on the 8's Support

So, it appears that Astoria does already have an IS2, but for some strange reason, I'm still seeing the IS1 feed where I am, across the river in Pacific County.  :unsure: I'm guessing maybe Charter hasn't switched to the IS2 feed up here yet, but they have already for the viewers down in Astoria and neighboring Seaside. :dunno:
Great to see Tony Fulkerson's still there on the STAR team  :biggrin:

You should probably email him back and let him know of your exact city/locale. Chances are, they feed the same STAR to your area as Astoria proper, but there might be a different feed as well to your city. :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 16, 2015, 11:49:49 AM
Astoria's IS1 (#23550) was still alive and well until this morning when it officially went out of service. I'm kinda surprised it lived this long  :yes: although it should have been replaced some time ago. But for now, Charter is stuck with the satellite SD feed until they get their IS2 XD or Jr up and running at some point later.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on November 17, 2015, 02:13:02 PM
Check out our polling question regarding the WeatherStar you missed the most from Poll-Maker website.
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll484415x8ea521Cf-19 (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll484415x8ea521Cf-19)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: mattregozo1987 on November 17, 2015, 02:18:50 PM
And also the polling question regarding the narration from WeatherStar.
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll484436x0AA6b922-19 (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll484436x0AA6b922-19)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on November 21, 2015, 11:23:05 AM
Man, my Charter headend must be slow: they still have not gotten their new IS2 equipment up and going yet. It's now been five days since the Astoria IS1 kicked the bucket, and based on the audio, #23550 may be still plugged in but powered off. According to an email response I've received from the STAR Team earlier this week, The Weather Channel is working with Charter and are waiting for them to get the new server up and running in the Astoria area. Until then, I'm stuck with the SD satellite feed as well as HD.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on November 23, 2015, 09:26:40 PM
I STILL CAN'T GET THIS SONG OUTTA MY HEAD :( #ForeverUnknown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFATU1Q_aqo)

@localonthe8s, after days of research the only results I can get is that your "Unknown Song" is published by SuperMax Music. The only issue is finding them seems next to impossible. It's like they never existed?  :thinking:
I've searched KillerTracks, DeWolfe, VideoHelper, APM, FirstCom, WarnerChappellPM, ImagemPM, Extreme Music, Atomica, Epitome Music .etc. No where to be found. Not Arwed Hauf or Naftalia Tantular, or Outer Self or Everybody Dance! It's like it never existed!  :furious: Unless someone can contact TWC or BMI it may forever remain a mystery.  :club:

EDIT: Just to let you know Rainy Day by CC Gilmore also comes from SuperMax. So maybe someone here has a lead who is a CC Gilmore fan? What libraries he could come from?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: ravensfan5927 on November 28, 2015, 12:33:34 AM
Just found this randomly surfing YouTube videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCgPGb4LqMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCgPGb4LqMw)  :blink: Is this a new beta run of the Local Forecast? Because if it is, it looks and sounds really bad.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCKelby on November 28, 2015, 02:11:00 AM
Just found this randomly surfing YouTube videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCgPGb4LqMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCgPGb4LqMw)  :blink: Is this a new beta run of the Local Forecast? Because if it is, it looks and sounds really bad.
If I'm not mistaken, that's a video off of weather.com and not a real IntelliStar. That's one of the LF videos automatically rendered and uploaded to weather.com. The big giveaway is the Wunderground radar used on screen. Those videos also use storm alert music every time there's one small alert. The whole video looks like it uses a slightly edited copy of what we saw in the WATT concept videos. These used to be linked on the forecast page but I can't find them anymore. I'll link to it later if I can find the link.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 08, 2015, 12:47:05 PM
My cable headend finally got their new STAR equipment installed as of this morning. Here is Astoria's new IS2 Jr:

*NEW* IntelliSTAR 2 Jr in Astoria, OR- Dec. 8, 2015 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sre_EsjHXSk#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Tyler on December 08, 2015, 10:25:37 PM
I notice no 7 day in that LF? Is that a typical flavor now?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on December 08, 2015, 11:57:01 PM
I notice no 7 day in that LF? Is that a typical flavor now?

I presume it was probably a glitch on my end, since this IS2 Jr was installed just today. The glitch has since been fixed.  :yes:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on December 15, 2015, 03:10:19 PM
Christmas music on TWC, started at 12/15/2015 3:08PM EST LF! YAYS!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on December 15, 2015, 04:39:56 PM
Same here! Vocal Songs. Maybe that's why I haven't heard any music playing yet.

Just heard one of Charlie Brown Christmas songs just now at 3:58pm ct.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTAR on December 15, 2015, 05:11:42 PM
Just heard "Feliz Navidad" by Jose Feliciano on the LF at 4:09 CT- first holiday-related song I've heard on TWC in a long time (not instrumental, but still glad to hear holiday music again, nevertheless.).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on December 15, 2015, 07:04:06 PM
Christmas music on TWC, started at 12/15/2015 3:08PM EST LF! YAYS!
Could this be the return of the all-time seasonal classic...."I Saw Three Ships"!?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on December 15, 2015, 08:13:19 PM
Vocal Music!  :blink: Wow that was the longest vocal hiatus in TWC History! Actually no, 1983-2012 was the longest. Hmm let's see if this rolls over into next month? Really could care less but that would kind of be exciting to see
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on December 15, 2015, 08:24:16 PM
Vocal Music!  :blink: Wow that was the longest vocal hiatus in TWC History! Actually no, 1983-2012 was the longest. Hmm let's see if this rolls over into next month? Really could care less but that would kind of be exciting to see
Actually, TWC did had vocal music back in June 2007. So technically, that was only a 24 year hiatus.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on December 15, 2015, 08:27:29 PM
Can someone start a new topic and post the songs heard so far?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: NorEastorm on December 15, 2015, 09:16:39 PM
Can anyone provide a recording to watch? Those of us with Verizon can't watch😩
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on December 16, 2015, 08:59:40 AM
Can anyone provide a recording to watch? Those of us with Verizon can't watch😩

Here you go..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFAkW-gnls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFAkW-gnls)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: iKJames on December 16, 2015, 09:31:10 PM
I watched earlier today and noticed they are playing Rudolph the Nosed Reindeer, along with The Nutcracker.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 16, 2015, 10:19:45 PM
Can someone post the full playlist on YT if possible?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatheronthe8s on December 18, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
Sorry but I can't, unless you want to hear the Jim Cantore narrations over it. :dunno:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lotologist492 on December 20, 2015, 05:17:42 AM
Are the random scenic backgrounds in the LOT8's a thing of the past now?  All I am seeing are ads for the various programs and longform shows (and occasionally a sponsor ad).  The first day of winter is Monday but I have to wonder if they will utilize the winter scenes from last year or just keep running the advertising backgrounds.

They did not use any scenic backgrounds on the first day of Hanukkah, except for the Lot18 during the overnight longform; none the following programming day.  I wonder if they will skip Christmas and New Year's also...

On another note, I am glad they brought back Christmas music.  That was the first change made to the LF music since last January when they added one additional song to the generic LF lineup.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCKelby on December 21, 2015, 03:37:12 PM
Are the random scenic backgrounds in the LOT8's a thing of the past now?  All I am seeing are ads for the various programs and longform shows (and occasionally a sponsor ad).  The first day of winter is Monday but I have to wonder if they will utilize the winter scenes from last year or just keep running the advertising backgrounds.

They did not use any scenic backgrounds on the first day of Hanukkah, except for the Lot18 during the overnight longform; none the following programming day.  I wonder if they will skip Christmas and New Year's also...

On another note, I am glad they brought back Christmas music.  That was the first change made to the LF music since last January when they added one additional song to the generic LF lineup.
For a few LFs today they had the first day of winter special graphics going around 9 AM EST, but it didn't last for long. They were gone around 10 AM.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: iKJames on December 23, 2015, 07:55:33 PM
At 6:18pm ET they had the song from The Polar Express play.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: alex979 on December 23, 2015, 09:52:04 PM
I feel like they should've gone with red-mode LOT8's and the severe weather anthem today... The combination of Christmas music with Tor:con 8 and "Tornado Outbreak" coverage has been kind of odd.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 23, 2015, 11:25:12 PM
Can someone post a clip of Feliz Navidad on LOT8s? I've been waiting to hear that song on the Christmas playlist for years!!!!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on December 23, 2015, 11:56:29 PM
Can someone post a clip of Feliz Navidad on LOT8s? I've been waiting to hear that song on the Christmas playlist for years!!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4MvezBFlic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4MvezBFlic)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 11, 2016, 10:45:32 PM
Here's a weather advisory you don't see everyday. :blink:

TWC IntelliSTAR 2 Jr- Grand Coulee, WA- Jan. 11, 2016- 3:48PM PST (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqKr_ZAHaeM#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatheronthe8s on January 12, 2016, 06:11:15 PM
Yep I know, I saw it, pretty interesting isn't it.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on January 26, 2016, 07:19:28 PM
It seems that TWC has added a new product to the LDL: Air Quality Forecast.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8i4XmniCdQ#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on January 26, 2016, 07:56:33 PM
It seems that TWC has added a new product to the LDL: Air Quality Forecast.
! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8i4XmniCdQ#[/url])

They always had the Air Quality Forecast feature on the IntelliStar and earlier models during Local On the 8s, though the WeatherStar XL and earlier only used its Air Quality feature in Southern California. This is got to be the first time they ever used it on the LDL as well as the IS2.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on January 27, 2016, 12:49:14 PM
It seems that TWC has added a new product to the LDL: Air Quality Forecast.
! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8i4XmniCdQ#[/url])


Not seeing that AQ forecast product on my Jr. I guess maybe this is exclusive to the STARs in more populous areas (that have ozone) similar to the traffic product.  :unsure:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: SO7430 on January 27, 2016, 02:49:17 PM
Flipping on the weather channel this morning, I noticed the air quality report too.  I haven't seen it since before the 2013 update.

https://youtu.be/H-B2fRe_-zw
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: curtjr4 on January 30, 2016, 03:01:10 PM
It seems that TWC has added a new product to the LDL: Air Quality Forecast.
! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8i4XmniCdQ#[/url])


Not seeing that AQ forecast product on my Jr. I guess maybe this is exclusive to the STARs in more populous areas (that have ozone) similar to the traffic product.  :unsure:

I have the AQ on my LDL. Granted, my I2Jr is located in Southern California. Difference between my area and Los Angeles is my area the air quality doesn't get all that bad.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on January 31, 2016, 12:07:16 AM
Noticed the AQ here the other day as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: SO7430 on February 04, 2016, 10:30:50 PM
Anyone else seeing the pollen report too? It appears right after the air quality, it's essentially the same as the air quality too.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 20, 2016, 08:48:45 PM
The song info is in the description (Frank Danna - "Caribbean Moon Light"), but I looked it up and couldn't find anything. Is this person using a different alias or is this song not available commercially?  :dunno:

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jAqEtVCCUA#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on March 20, 2016, 10:47:35 PM
The song info is in the description (Frank Danna - "Caribbean Moon Light"), but I looked it up and couldn't find anything. Is this person using a different alias or is this song not available commercially?  :dunno:

! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jAqEtVCCUA#[/url])

It's on iTunes  :yes:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/id39340023?i=39340019&ign-mpt=uo%3D5 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/id39340023?i=39340019&ign-mpt=uo%3D5)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 20, 2016, 11:14:08 PM
The song info is in the description (Frank Danna - "Caribbean Moon Light"), but I looked it up and couldn't find anything. Is this person using a different alias or is this song not available commercially?  :dunno:

! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jAqEtVCCUA#[/url])

It's on iTunes  :yes:

[url]https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/id39340023?i=39340019&ign-mpt=uo%3D5[/url] ([url]https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/id39340023?i=39340019&ign-mpt=uo%3D5[/url])


Thanks, I actually ended up finding it on Amazon as well. I should of just checked there first instead of doing a google search. :doh:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015ELEPU/ref=sr_1_6_rd?ie=UTF8&child=B0015ESPF2&qid=1458529890&sr=1-6%3C/a%3E (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015ELEPU/ref=sr_1_6_rd?ie=UTF8&child=B0015ESPF2&qid=1458529890&sr=1-6%3C/a%3E)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 17, 2016, 03:14:38 PM
Is it me, or has anyone noticed striking similarities between the short lived 2008 Storm Alert Theme and "Disc Wars" by Daft Punk from the july/august 2011 playlist

2008 SA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElkzCLPqYOk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElkzCLPqYOk)
Disc Wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBshpDCBQ-s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBshpDCBQ-s)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on August 23, 2016, 12:15:42 PM
Just heard "Wait a Minute" by Mark Krurnowski at 11:08 AM CT. Nice surprise. :)
When did they start to do that?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on August 23, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
Just heard "Wait a Minute" by Mark Krurnowski at 11:08 AM CT. Nice surprise. :)
When did they start to do that?
You didn't know TWC occasionally plays smooth jazz now? Well that song has been playing since March.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on August 23, 2016, 04:07:34 PM
Just heard "Wait a Minute" by Mark Krurnowski at 11:08 AM CT. Nice surprise. :)
When did they start to do that?
You didn't know TWC occasionally plays smooth jazz now? Well that song has been playing since March.
No, sorry. I hardly watch now. Looks like I'm way out of the loop if they've been playing since March :oops:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 23, 2016, 07:46:24 PM
yeah, today was a smooth jazz day
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 01, 2016, 12:07:38 PM
A new Storm Alert production track has debuted on the LFs today:

TWC IntelliSTAR 2 Jr + *NEW* Storm Alert Music- Astoria, OR- Sep. 1, 2016- 8:08AM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRKE-FMRVrk#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on September 03, 2016, 09:01:56 PM
If that's what they're using for so called "Storm Alert" then they desperately need to give Stephen Arnold a call ASAP. They would have been better off sticking to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTiBKVHSN7U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTiBKVHSN7U)

Or heck using this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ7JwdYwlK0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ7JwdYwlK0)
The music they used is OK, but it's not even on par with what they used in 2008 let alone 2005/2006. Honestly, they could have just played their normal selection of music, it's not like they have had some official form of Storm Alert music on their LFs the past 30+ years prior to 2005. Although since Hermine was the first hurricane to strike FL since 2005 was enough of a reason to use "something" anyway I guess.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatheronthe8s on September 04, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
I would like if they brought it back. Although I guess what they did is better than nothing. It might not be in their budget to do it I don't know. Although I would like it. I was hoping they would do it on the 10 year Katrina anniversery as a little memory thing or something but they obviously didn't. I would like if they did though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on September 15, 2016, 02:48:03 PM
Just thought I should point something out here I've noticed on TWC recently. During an LF, if the winds are calm, the text no longer says "Calm", but rather "N 0", presumably spelling out the word "no". The LDL, however, will still say "Calm". If there is a wind speed, the LF still reads "[number] mph" as before.

Example pics with the wind text circled:

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/Wind_N0_LF_zps2zq4lvgm.jpg)

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/Wind_Calm_LDL_zps4xgbpjdn.jpg)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Weatheronthe8s on September 23, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
Yeah I think that's odd why it's doing that, since 0 mph winds are usually variable.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on July 05, 2017, 12:16:29 AM
Can someone confirm if Vocal Music played on the 4th? TWCAtlanta uploaded a video and it seems Weezer was sponsoring the LF graphics today? I don't know if it was real or dubbed? 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on July 05, 2017, 12:18:30 AM
I can confirm that TWC was playing vocal music. They only played Weezer's "Feels Like Summer" though.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on October 24, 2017, 10:42:08 AM
Figured it's worth mentioning, yesterday was the 10 year anniversary of the debut of the "v2 IntelliStar." Time sure does fly...

Some videos from the launch week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L1n7XLH6s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L1n7XLH6s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84mTcfG6pE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84mTcfG6pE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SylcZhqknCY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SylcZhqknCY)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on July 10, 2018, 02:25:15 PM
Throwback! 10 years ago! Or is it?
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0BWpim3W2o#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 11, 2018, 02:23:34 PM
Throwback! 10 years ago! Or is it?
! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0BWpim3W2o#[/url])

If you're trying to make it look real, then allow me to point out all of the mistakes right here:


I get that what you did was an emulation, but please use your own thread in the emulation videos section instead of posting in this thread, which is meant for discussion on the real thing. ;)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on July 12, 2018, 02:40:57 AM
Throwback! 10 years ago! Or is it?
! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0BWpim3W2o#[/url])

If you're trying to make it look real, then allow me to point out all of the mistakes right here:

  • That flavor lineup never existed! During the era of the metro forecast starting with the LF, the radar/satellite product was divided up into six regions instead of four, whenever the regional forecast map was used on a 2:00 flavor
  • The SLF started with the Precipitation forecast/severe alerts product effective 7/1/2008
  • Four out of six regions during your regional forecast product use the 2010 icons
  • Your severe weather warnings maps use the 2003-2005 titlebars. not present during that era at all
  • The radar/satellite products did not use enhanced satellite imagery during this time. That experiment only lasted a week when the graphics changed in late May 2008
  • Your LOT8s corner bug. Firstly, TWC did not debut the LOT8s bug until late August 2008, much less with that font. Secondly, the bug was present during the entire duration of the product, and not just on screen for a few seconds.

I get that what you did was an emulation, but please use your own thread in the emulation videos section instead of posting in this thread, which is meant for discussion on the real thing. ;)

Haha, I know that. I was trying to make it look real but at the same give people the idea that it's an emulation. Unfortunately, I don't have any weather data so I had to place whatever sat image I had which in this case had colors. Yes I know this would go into TWC Art and emulations but I wanted to see if I could fool someone.

I posted an update to this in my Emulations topic but unfortunately I don't have that many resources yet so it mixes 2010 and 2008 icons.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Pop Light Brown on July 17, 2018, 01:07:55 PM
Saw this change this morning. #DirecTv
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: 22appaar on July 17, 2018, 02:40:46 PM
It’s about time they update it!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lotologist492 on July 18, 2018, 03:22:42 AM
07/18/18...3:18AM...Just heard a smooth jazz track on the LF!  This is a song from the recently used list of smooth jazz tracks; nothing 'new'.  It is surprising since I have not heard any smooth jazz since 2017.

Another oddity: an hour earlier, the LF ran silent...no audio other then the 5-second intro.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Pop Light Brown on July 18, 2018, 04:08:45 PM
It’s about time they update it!

Ironically, the old look still applies if I were to hit the red button to pull up the CC/EF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 26, 2018, 07:04:18 PM
Figured it's worth mentioning, yesterday was the 10 year anniversary of the debut of the "v2 IntelliStar." Time sure does fly...
This is the first video of the v2 iStar, from when mine was a beta.  October 9, 2007.  Includes the last v1, Evening Edition (After Dark), and the first v2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVxBKF80pJY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVxBKF80pJY&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: cc17926 on July 27, 2018, 08:42:01 PM
Figured it's worth mentioning, yesterday was the 10 year anniversary of the debut of the "v2 IntelliStar." Time sure does fly...
This is the first video of the v2 iStar, from when mine was a beta.  October 9, 2007.  Includes the last v1, Evening Edition (After Dark), and the first v2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVxBKF80pJY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVxBKF80pJY&feature=youtu.be)

Interesting to point, I was able to acquire your Star IS.. It's nice to see videos from when this system was in full operation! Yes, I have a payphone too!

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: WeatherSTARIII on July 27, 2018, 11:49:22 PM
Figured it's worth mentioning, yesterday was the 10 year anniversary of the debut of the "v2 IntelliStar." Time sure does fly...
This is the first video of the v2 iStar, from when mine was a beta.  October 9, 2007.  Includes the last v1, Evening Edition (After Dark), and the first v2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVxBKF80pJY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVxBKF80pJY&feature=youtu.be)

Interesting to point, I was able to acquire your Star IS.. It's nice to see videos from when this system was in full operation! Yes, I have a payphone too!
How did you get that original IntelliSTAR? That's so cool that you have one! Was this from eBay? Or was it from a random computer electronics recycler? I would even like to see if it's even possible to reverse engineer the IS (even though TWC stopped supporting it back in 2015). Either way, nice find!
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 28, 2018, 09:04:08 AM
It was on eBay about six months ago or so.  So glad it's made it to a good home!  My YouTube channel has several videos of both the v2 and v3.  This unit also has the current version on it as well.

Fun fact: this unit was installed after DST Spring 2006 - the first that Indiana observed.  The XL it replaced couldn't do the new DST change apparently.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 28, 2018, 07:59:03 PM
Saw this change this morning. #DirecTv
Wow, they failed big time with those icons...what's w/ the Tornado one? :rolleyes: And they actually bothered to have an almanac built in to the 36 hour? I think the DTV LF's have more info than the IS's now! :o
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 28, 2018, 07:59:53 PM
Figured it's worth mentioning, yesterday was the 10 year anniversary of the debut of the "v2 IntelliStar." Time sure does fly...
This is the first video of the v2 iStar, from when mine was a beta.  October 9, 2007.  Includes the last v1, Evening Edition (After Dark), and the first v2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVxBKF80pJY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVxBKF80pJY&feature=youtu.be)
Very nice find...thanks for uploading! B)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on August 03, 2018, 12:32:14 AM
I heard what sounded like an acoustic guitar instrumental on the 12:18AM ET LF. Don't know the name or artist, but I can confirm that it was NOT a track from either of the Smooth Jazz CDs. Maybe TWC is airing new songs?

UPDATE: another new track at 1:18AM ET. This one is "Times Of Your Life" by Jeffrey Garber (ID'd via YouTube's content ID system):

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiwXm_SUA2U#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Lotologist492 on August 03, 2018, 04:35:03 AM
I have also observed new tracks on the :18 LF I have not heard before.  Maybe they have finally turned the corner with LF music.  Now it really hurts that LF's only air twice an hour!  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWC Fan on August 03, 2018, 04:50:27 PM
I heard new tracks as well.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCSteven on August 10, 2018, 05:32:40 PM
It sounds like they're playing the same playlist today. And they are coming from a production music company called Extreme Music.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on April 22, 2019, 08:35:08 AM
The full-screen LF has officially been removed. With this change, I am officially done with TWC. It was already bad enough that they were reduced to two per hour, but I am not watching anymore and will not support this network.

It was a pleasure to meet all of you. Even 10 years ago, TWC still had a lot of good about it, smooth jazz, etc. Everything I loved about it is gone. I know most of you feel the same way. Martin would be ashamed of what happened to this network.

Wish all of you the best. I may come back if they decide to reverse these horrible changes. Otherwise, I am getting my weather elsewhere.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on April 22, 2019, 11:45:59 AM
I wouldn’t say just yet that the LFs are gone. We don’t know. TWC had a major attack on their network and they might still be working on fixing what they can. Last I checked, radar wasn’t being sent to the Stars so that might be what they’re working on.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: curtjr4 on April 22, 2019, 12:46:37 PM
The full-screen LF has officially been removed.
Can you cite your source on this official decision?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Zach on April 22, 2019, 01:45:01 PM
The full-screen LF has officially been removed.
Can you cite your source on this official decision?
I agree.

They were just hit with a ransomware attack last week, and that does take time to recover from, even if you have extensive backups of your systems.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 22, 2019, 03:30:37 PM
I would wait a few more days if not longer before everything is back up and running. It's likely that TWC is working diligently to try and restore the locals ASAP following last week's cyberattack  :yes:  but as Zach said, it will take a while for software to recover from such attacks.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on April 23, 2019, 11:52:44 AM
Local on the 8s returned at 10:48 AM Central. Just saw an LF, no radar but nonetheless it’s back. Interesting to note that it seems the Emergency Feed is running instead of the National LF.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 23, 2019, 01:14:24 PM
TWC IntelliSTAR 2 Jr- Astoria, OR- Apr. 23, 2019- 9:48AM PDT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu4pDzMkcw4#)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TV Shows Fan on April 24, 2019, 07:51:16 PM
The National LF is back as of today.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: willh699 on April 25, 2019, 05:47:24 PM
The National LF is back as of today.

it returned yesterday, and today, DirecTV's LOT8s feature that overides the national LOT8s is working again
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: TWCJim on April 27, 2019, 02:27:28 PM
There appears to be a nationwide IS2 Jr outage going on right now, including the Jr in Astoria. The IS2 HDs and XDs are working normally according to comments I've received on YouTube.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on July 04, 2019, 03:30:13 PM
Would have thought they stopped using songs with vocals since the Local On The 8's is narrated by Jim Cantore. The 3:18 PM Local Forecast used "Light Up the Sky" by Duncan.

https://youtu.be/QcbjXHagXdE
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 21, 2019, 03:18:21 PM
Really sad TWC went from full on 2 minute locals with regular playlists to just two dinky 1 min locals every hour. Anyone kept tabs on the music?

Back on New Year's Eve, they played Daft Punk's One More time and Sandstorm by Darude.

Does anyone know who does the music on the Local on the 8s?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: crazybangles on July 21, 2019, 05:10:28 PM
Yesterday, I heard Rocket Man by Elton John on the local on the 8s at 7:18PM CST in honor of the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11. One of my favorites.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on August 14, 2019, 11:14:05 PM
I miss those days from summer 2011 and beforehand so much. i pray daily they bring these monthly jazz playlists and 2 minute locals back, but I know that will never happen again so I have to live and move on from that. It's great to enjoy moments like this back then. Especially this song from 11 Augusts ago!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILPxH68ePfs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILPxH68ePfs)
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on November 15, 2019, 10:16:48 PM
Noticed today they were playing songs with vocals during the Local On The 8's.

7:18 PM "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" Bachman Turner Overdrive
7:48 PM "Tiny Dancer" Elton John
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: crazybangles on November 16, 2019, 02:26:20 AM
I loved the music they played yesterday. Here are some more songs that played throughout the day.

(all times are CST)

6:48AM - Dancing Queen - ABBA
4:18PM - Y.M.C.A. - Village People
4:48PM - One Way or Another - Blondie
5:18PM - I will Survive - Gloria Gaynor
5:48PM - Old Time Rock and Roll - Bob Seger
6:18PM - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet - Bachman Turner Overdrive
6:49PM: Tiny Dancer - Elton John

I wish they did this every day.

Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on November 22, 2019, 08:03:44 PM
Maybe it is only on Fridays they play non-instrumental songs during the Local On The 8s.

Last Friday 1970's songs were played.

Today 1980's Songs were played:
3:18 PM Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up
3:48 PM Culture Club - Karma Chameleon
4:18 PM Simple Minds - Don't You (Forget About Me)
4:48 PM a-ha - Take On Me
5:18 PM The Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian
5:48 PM The Proclaimers - I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)
6:18 PM Kenny Loggins - Footloose
6:48 PM Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody
7:18 PM Devo - Whip It
7:48 PM REO Speedwagon - Take It On The Run
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: crazybangles on November 22, 2019, 08:11:05 PM
6:48AM - Eye of the Tiger by Survivor

I love this concept. :happy:
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on November 23, 2019, 03:15:35 PM
I definitely noticed it being on Fridays. Previous to last week, they played 60s music so I’m guessing it’s all by decade.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on November 23, 2019, 10:17:00 PM
Maybe it is only on Fridays they play non-instrumental songs during the Local On The 8s.

Last Friday 1970's songs were played.

Today 1980's Songs were played:
3:18 PM Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up
3:48 PM Culture Club - Karma Chameleon
4:18 PM Simple Minds - Don't You (Forget About Me)
4:48 PM a-ha - Take On Me
5:18 PM The Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian
5:48 PM The Proclaimers - I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)
6:18 PM Kenny Loggins - Footloose
6:48 PM Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody
7:18 PM Devo - Whip It
7:48 PM REO Speedwagon - Take It On The Run
(emphasis added)

They actually played that?  I was just joking (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/general-discussion/does-anyone-remember/)...
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on December 01, 2019, 04:11:32 PM
I loved the music they played yesterday. Here are some more songs that played throughout the day.

(all times are CST)

6:48AM - Dancing Queen - ABBA
4:18PM - Y.M.C.A. - Village People
4:48PM - One Way or Another - Blondie
5:18PM - I will Survive - Gloria Gaynor
5:48PM - Old Time Rock and Roll - Bob Seger
6:18PM - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet - Bachman Turner Overdrive
6:49PM: Tiny Dancer - Elton John

I wish they did this every day.


Did anyone record LF clips from those days they played the vocal music?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: xoddf2 on December 04, 2019, 10:47:35 AM
The IntelliStar 2 xD on Spectrum in Redding has been down for a while.

Is this a nationwide issue, or should I report it?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on December 04, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
Might want to report it to Weather Group, my Star is just fine.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on December 10, 2019, 10:51:29 AM
Christmas music was played on Monday. 
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Dylan on August 05, 2020, 01:25:26 PM
Here's something I've wondered about since "Weather All the Time" launched in November 2013, 3 alerts can fit on one "ALERTS" page, but if there are 4 alerts, could that many squeeze in in 1 page or would it expand to a second page? If it would expand to a second page, and the "Metro Radar" is showing, how would the LF lineup be affected? Would it skip the 7 day, or only show 1 descriptive forecast? The latter was normal if the "ALERTS" and "Metro Radar" were both showing when they had the "Summary" screen prior to October 2014, so back then, would it have been possible to have the "Metro Radar" jump right to the 7 day with 2 "ALERTS" screens and "Metro Radar" or show only 1 descriptive forecast, then the "Summary"(if 4 or more alerts don't fit on 1 screen)?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on August 05, 2020, 01:33:14 PM
The I2 (and presumably also I1) will only display 3 alerts at most on the LF. It will not show more than whatever fits on that one alert page.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Dylan on August 05, 2020, 01:52:38 PM
The I2 (and presumably also I1) will only display 3 alerts at most on the LF. It will not show more than whatever fits on that one alert page.
The pre-WATT I1 and I2 did display 2 "ALERTS" screens when needed (the I2 would always fit 3 on one screen, while the I1 would only fit 2 on one screen, unless only one line was needed for one of the alerts). Are you for certain that it won't show a second page for 4 or more alerts?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on August 05, 2020, 01:56:01 PM
The I2 (and presumably also I1) will only display 3 alerts at most on the LF. It will not show more than whatever fits on that one alert page.
The pre-WATT I1 and I2 did display 2 "ALERTS" screens when needed (the I2 would always fit 3 on one screen, while the I1 would only fit 2 on one screen, unless only one line was needed for one of the alerts). Are you for certain that it won't show a second page for 4 or more alerts?

While it is true that the Pre-WATT LFs did have more than one page for alerts on both I1 and I2, the same cannot be said for the WATT LFs. I’m 100% sure I2 (and I1) only show one page for alerts (sadly).
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Dylan on August 05, 2020, 02:12:44 PM
The I2 (and presumably also I1) will only display 3 alerts at most on the LF. It will not show more than whatever fits on that one alert page.
The pre-WATT I1 and I2 did display 2 "ALERTS" screens when needed (the I2 would always fit 3 on one screen, while the I1 would only fit 2 on one screen, unless only one line was needed for one of the alerts). Are you for certain that it won't show a second page for 4 or more alerts?

While it is true that the Pre-WATT LFs did have more than one page for alerts on both I1 and I2, the same cannot be said for the WATT LFs. I’m 100% sure I2 (and I1) only show one page for alerts (sadly).
Where you under more than 3 alerts at some point, and only saw one page with 3?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: luesjo12 on August 05, 2020, 02:28:08 PM
Yep, I was under several alerts during Hurricane Hanna. It only shows one page with the three highest priority alerts. Sort of related, but a new little glitch that some have noticed on I2 is that the three alert page shows at the end of the LF now. I don’t believe that was intentional but it is rather strange.
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Dylan on August 05, 2020, 03:53:27 PM
Here's another question, how do 2 "Weather Bulletin" screens affect the 1 minute flavor on the pre-WATT IS2? A normal 1 minute flavor went like this;
"Now", "Regional Doppler", "Radar/Satellite" (the "Metro Doppler" automatically overrode it when needed no matter what else was showing), "Local Forecast", "The Week Ahead". If there was 1 "Weather Bulletin" screen, all those products mentioned squeezed in afterward with shorter durations, but I can't imagine they could with 2 screens, especially since that's what the 90 second flavor looked like with 2 "Weather Bulletin" screens showing. Do you have any idea what an old IS2 1 minute flavor with 2 "Weather Bulletin" screens would look like?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: IceManNYR on December 15, 2020, 03:25:06 PM
Noticed today that Christmas music has started playing during the Local On The 8's.
3:18 PM The Boston Pops Orchestra & Arthur Fiedler - Sleigh Ride
5:18 PM Daryl Hall & John Oates - Jingle Bell Rock
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: Dylan on March 09, 2022, 11:12:22 AM
Ever since the icon change way back on December 12, 2006, "Showers Nearby" on the "Current Conditions" has used the "Scattered Showers" icon. However, since last summer, I have noticed that this inconsistently uses either the "Scattered Showers" icon or the "AM Showers"/"Few Showers" icon on the IntelliStar 2s. I also noticed that on a newly posted Weatherscan video (which over 8 years outdated, is still using the 2010 icons), "Showers Nearby" is using the "Rain/Showers/Light Rain" icon, which I'm surprised that Weatherscan would even get an update in the 2020s, unless this is an update to the "Current Conditions" system that would automatically go through to Weatherscan. Is there a reason for an inconsistency on "Showers Nearby" sometimes using the "Scattered Showers" icon and sometimes using the "Rain/Showers/Rain" (on Weatherscan) or the "AM Showers/Few Showers" (on the TWC IntelliStar 2s) icon?
Title: Re: General LF Discussion
Post by: gheehaii3 on August 25, 2022, 05:34:51 AM
Derek, i'm pretty sure its a playlist error. Track 9 is an odd title for a song. :huh:

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