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Classics - The Weather Channel from 1982-1999 => Local Forecast => Topic started by: Dylan on June 07, 2024, 03:24:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3XESmWjm3c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3XESmWjm3c)
In this video, "Morning In Martinique" by "EKO" is airing as an M flavor, but on the twcclassics playlist for February 1994, it's only listed as airing during the E and K flavors, as well as BTF (there is a video of it airing during that with a later cut), but all other LF videos only have it airing on K, furthermore, theweatherchazz's (RIP) video description claims it also aired as an L and J (the latter without narration like the M). My question is, I believe it being used for E since it's listed on the playlist, and it obviously aired as an M, and videos confirm it aired as a K, but did it really also air as an L and J or did theweatherchazz have a false memory? And did it start from the beginning on all those flavors, or did at least one have a later cut like the BTF?
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No, it was not used as a M, J, or L. At least not officially. It might have played during those flavors when the music computer or whatever failed to play a valid song. A good rule of thumb when you find videos like this is that if there's no narration, it's probably just a BTF song playing.
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No, it was not used as a M, J, or L. At least not officially. It might have played during those flavors when the music computer or whatever failed to play a valid song. A good rule of thumb when you find videos like this is that if there's no narration, it's probably just a BTF song playing.
How does that happen? So TWC just grabbed a BTF song if the music programmer didn't play a valid song? That seems unlikely as the song started right when the LF did, so TWC wouldn't have had time to know they needed a song that wasn't usually used as that flavor. Maybe it played as an L and J flavor due to a technical difficulty? When it played as a BTF, it didn't start from the beginning, whereas it did in the video Chazz posted way back in 2007. I also read comments that suggest this song played as an M flavor before a 30 second commercial that would be blocked out in some areas, so that explains it playing as an M without narration, but that doesn't explain why Chazz thought it played as an L and a J flavor. The description suggests he thought it played as an L with narration. Another song I wonder about is "Recollection" by "Gary Brunotte", it's listed on your website as playing as an L flavor besides H, but there's only a video of it playing as an H, did it for real play as an L? And did "Morning In Martinique" for real play as an E?
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Trust me, BTF songs were always played when the regular playlist failed to play. I've witnessed this dozens of times. And yes, it was a technical error. All songs were played at random by a computer, not a person. I don't know how it worked beyond that.
And yes, "Recollections" was used as a L flavor too. I actually have a recording of it in my update queue. And yes, "Morning In Martinique" was also an "E." I'm sure I could find an example of that.
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Trust me, BTF songs were always played when the regular playlist failed to play. I've witnessed this dozens of times. And yes, it was a technical error. All songs were played at random by a computer, not a person. I don't know how it worked beyond that.
And yes, "Recollections" was used as a L flavor too. I actually have a recording of it in my update queue. And yes, "Morning In Martinique" was also an "E." I'm sure I could find an example of that.
I wonder how a BTF song was cued so fast. And I wonder what made Chazz think Morning In Martinique was played as an L with narration and an M and J without narration. Also, that song started from the beginning in the unusual M flavor airing, but it used a different time-in when played on the BTF. Also, have you ever run across this happening before? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QnKfzmgmKY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QnKfzmgmKY)
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The songs were randomly played by a computer. That's how they cued so fast. Why BTF songs played at times, I don't know. You'd have to ask someone that worked there in Master Control, but it's an "error" I saw all the time back then. In fact, there were times I looked forward to it because sometimes they'd play the BTF song longer than 53 seconds.
Here's an example from 1992 from my site:
https://twcclassics.com/watch.php?file=coconut-roads
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The songs were randomly played by a computer. That's how they cued so fast. Why BTF songs played at times, I don't know. You'd have to ask someone that worked there in Master Control, but it's an "error" I saw all the time back then. In fact, there were times I looked forward to it because sometimes they'd play the BTF song longer than 53 seconds.
Here's an example from 1992 from my site:
https://twcclassics.com/watch.php?file=coconut-roads
I found an old post where you got excited when "Seguaro" played as a BTF song during a J flavor in 1993 due to an error since you never heard it past the :53 mark before. For a lot of people, that was a blast from the past, previously regularly playing on J flavor LFs in 1990 and 1991.
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I found an old post where you got excited when "Seguaro" played as a BTF song during a J flavor in 1993 due to an error since you never heard it past the :53 mark before. For a lot of people, that was a blast from the past, previously regularly playing on J flavor LFs in 1990 and 1991.
Yah, I was surprised to discover that "Seguaro" was played before I started watching.
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I found an old post where you got excited when "Seguaro" played as a BTF song during a J flavor in 1993 due to an error since you never heard it past the :53 mark before. For a lot of people, that was a blast from the past, previously regularly playing on J flavor LFs in 1990 and 1991.
Yah, I was surprised to discover that "Seguaro" was played before I started watching.
There's something else I've noticed, consistently, "Outside Solaris" by "Clifford Marshall Van Buren" played as an M flavor, but consistently used the L flavor narration, do you know what happened? Did it eventually play as an L with the L narration, was the narration eventually corrected for the M or did it keep playing as an M with L narration? And do you know how that song worked on the 3000 with its narration?
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There's something else I've noticed, consistently, "Outside Solaris" by "Clifford Marshall Van Buren" played as an M flavor, but consistently used the L flavor narration, do you know what happened? Did it eventually play as an L with the L narration, was the narration eventually corrected for the M or did it keep playing as an M with L narration? And do you know how that song worked on the 3000 with its narration?
My guess is that the song was initially selected as a L, but they changed it to a M at the last minute. I'm not sure how the narration worked back then. Whether it was recorded on to the song or added every time the song aired. Either way, when they changed it from a L to a M, they didn't bother to change the narration.
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There's something else I've noticed, consistently, "Outside Solaris" by "Clifford Marshall Van Buren" played as an M flavor, but consistently used the L flavor narration, do you know what happened? Did it eventually play as an L with the L narration, was the narration eventually corrected for the M or did it keep playing as an M with L narration? And do you know how that song worked on the 3000 with its narration?
My guess is that the song was initially selected as a L, but they changed it to a M at the last minute. I'm not sure how the narration worked back then. Whether it was recorded on to the song or added every time the song aired. Either way, when they changed it from a L to a M, they didn't bother to change the narration.
I've heard that the narration was hard wired into the LF music. But I think you're right, it was originally selected as an L, then changed to an M, and they didn't bother to edit the song clip to have the proper narration. I wonder if this confused people watching at the time who weren't avid STAR fans and wondered why the narration had nothing to do with what products were shown on the screen.
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What cut was used for the M flavor version of "On A Chestnut Horse" by "Fowler and Branca" in the February-June 1994 playlist? When aired as a Tri-State Weather LL flavor, it started from the beginning, but I can't figure out the cut for the M flavor, which was later on in the song (unusual since, I think, most songs started at the same place when aired on more than one flavor).
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What cut was used for the M flavor version of "On A Chestnut Horse" by "Fowler and Branca" in the February-June 1994 playlist? When aired as a Tri-State Weather LL flavor, it started from the beginning, but I can't figure out the cut for the M flavor, which was later on in the song (unusual since, I think, most songs started at the same place when aired on more than one flavor).
The "M" flavor starts about a minute into the song. (You'll notice it ends at about the same spot as the "J" flavor.)