Jeff Stern

[gt1racerlHDl]

i'd love to hear the songs also even if they didn't air on TWC

They did air, I assure you. I wouldn't think that anyone would know Jeff's music better than Jeff himself would. I've sent Jeff a short clip of the song that we THOUGHT was his, and when I hear from him I'll let you all know what he tells me.

I didn't mean it like that Gary  i was just implying that i would like to listen to the songs. hopefully they are ID'ed soon.

[lfmusiclover]

i'd love to hear the songs also even if they didn't air on TWC

They did air, I assure you. I wouldn't think that anyone would know Jeff's music better than Jeff himself would. I've sent Jeff a short clip of the song that we THOUGHT was his, and when I hear from him I'll let you all know what he tells me.

I didn't mean it like that Gary  i was just implying that i would like to listen to the songs. hopefully they are ID'ed soon.

I guess I jumped the gun a bit. Sorry about that. Unfortunately several people have made such a comment and meant it. I've worked my butt off for a long time (years) trying to track down Jeff, and when I finally get his music people think the songs are wrong. I would hope that Jeff would know his own music. Could it be possible that maybe (gasp!) WE are wrong? Regardless, I want to hear Jeff's side before I draw any conclusions.

As an added note, Chuck (Buckeyefan) also listened to the songs and didn't recognize them  either. Clearly, something isn't right since three of the most knowledgeable people on this forum (myself, Matt, Chuck) don't recognize the songs. But let's not go making assumptions without knowing the facts.

[Zach]

I would at least hope that we/TWC are wrong indeed if that's the case.. because it could just be a similar incident to the "Pleasant Days" one.

However, I'm not sure if this is the case, but the official TWC playlist had the incorrect song/artist with "Pleasant Days"..

[lfmusiclover]

So, I received a response from Jeff late last night. He says the song in the clip IS his. HOWEVER, he said it was technically composed by his guitarist. He says the song is called Poco Bahia. He says that it was not included in his BMI material, he was not aware it had aired on TWC, and was never paid for its use. Very interesting stuff indeed. But he says he's going to send it to me when time allows.

I guess we we wrong AND right. It is his music, but its not one of the songs we thought it was. 

[gt1racerlHDl]

I guess I jumped the gun a bit. Sorry about that. Unfortunately several people have made such a comment and meant it. I've worked my butt off for a long time (years) trying to track down Jeff, and when I finally get his music people think the songs are wrong. I would hope that Jeff would know his own music. Could it be possible that maybe (gasp!) WE are wrong? Regardless, I want to hear Jeff's side before I draw any conclusions.

no need to apologize Gary i totally understand where your coming from and that's weird Jeff wasn't paid for the use of "Poco Bahia".

[twcclassics]

I remember Sue Hurd of Ficara telling me that she was never paid for TWC's use of her music in the fall of 1996. I also heard a rumor that the guy selecting the music in the late 90s was let go b/c he wasn't reporting what was being used.

[lfmusiclover]

I remember Sue Hurd of Ficara telling me that she was never paid for TWC's use of her music in the fall of 1996. I also heard a rumor that the guy selecting the music in the late 90s was let go b/c he wasn't reporting what was being used.

Wow, I never knew all that. Very interesting. Unfortunate that he didn't want to play by the rules, he made some really good selections. We don't know his name by any chance do we?

[twcclassics]

We don't know his name by any chance do we?

I don't. The only music programmer I know of was Steve Hurst.

[ndinminot]

We don't know his name by any chance do we?

I don't. The only music programmer I know of was Steve Hurst.

I may be wrong, but in a previous forum, (before TWCC/TWCT merged) wasnt there mention of a programmer in the 90's by the name is Greg Piecuch, or something. Maybe he got sloppy with the reporting of the music in the late 90s, which also explains why there are many unknowns during that time frame. On the other note, I am finally glad that song by Jeff Stern was finally tracked down

[lfmusiclover]

We don't know his name by any chance do we?

I don't. The only music programmer I know of was Steve Hurst.

I may be wrong, but in a previous forum, (before TWCC/TWCT merged) wasnt there mention of a programmer in the 90's by the name is Greg Piecuch, or something. Maybe he got sloppy with the reporting of the music in the late 90s, which also explains why there are many unknowns during that time frame. On the other note, I am finally glad that song by Jeff Stern was finally tracked down

As luck would have it I have found a Gregory Piecuch who is/was employed by TWC. I'm going to see if he's willing and/or able to give me any information about the music back then. Maybe I can get some information on those unknowns! 

[Mike M]

I remember Sue Hurd of Ficara telling me that she was never paid for TWC's use of her music in the fall of 1996. I also heard a rumor that the guy selecting the music in the late 90s was let go b/c he wasn't reporting what was being used.

Wasn't it the guy that had a copyright violation with I think Rose Hall by Common Ground?

[twcclassics]

Wasn't it the guy that had a copyright violation with I think Rose Hall by Common Ground?

Not sure if was the same person, but yes, that was another rumor I heard. I also heard that "Theme For Galilee" by Pete Papageorge wasn't a Christmas song. It was a song for Pete's wife or girlfriend Gailie, and he wasn't too happy that TWC used it during Christmas.

[lfmusiclover]

I know I haven't updated this thread in ages, but, well, there hasn't been any news to report. I hadn't heard from Jeff nor received the song from him. Until today that is. I got an e-mail from him saying that he hadn't forgotten to send the song, he's just been having computer problems. So with any luck hopefully we'll have our song soon. On a related note, I did not hear back from any of the Christopher Jones that I contacted, nor have I heard anything from Greg Piecuch. So I'm kinda figuring out what my next move is going to be. But I haven't given up by any means. I'm determined to get ahold of these last few obscure musicians, as well as to identify our ever dwindling list of unknown songs. 

[twcclassics]

Thanks for the update Gary!

[gt1racerlHDl]

Always have faith Gary! and thanks again for updating us