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Title: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: TWCToday on July 15, 2010, 08:53:32 PM
https://twctodayforums.com/Video/STARS/HDLocal/33ldl.flv (https://twctodayforums.com/Video/STARS/HDLocal/33ldl.flv)

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(https://twctodayforums.com/Video/STARS/HDLocal/LDL/ldl3.jpg)

(https://twctodayforums.com/Video/STARS/HDLocal/LDL/ldl5.jpg)

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Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: curtjr4 on July 15, 2010, 09:06:05 PM
Very interesting! B) I can't wait for this STAR to be deployed in East Lansing!
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 15, 2010, 09:07:11 PM
Those are some sick shots!
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Eric on July 15, 2010, 09:49:27 PM
Martin, are those actual screenshots, or something you created?  If they are actual shots, I have a couple of issues:

1.) I don't mind that the national current conditions bar on the left is still shown, but, since the radar on the bottom left corner is hidden by the local LDL, the "radar" label should be either removed or repositioned on the national feed so that it's no longer indicating a radar that's hidden to those now seeing a local LDL.

2.) Why is the Intellistar HD using the pre-2010 weather icons?  That creates a discontinuity with all of the other weather icons shown on The Weather Channel.  And, personally, I greatly prefer the newest set of icons.  The older ones do look more realistic, but the newer ones remove confusion.  For example, I had a hard time telling the difference between rain (white streaks against a grey background) and snow (white dots against a grey background).

3.) The banner underneath the city name is a little confusing.  For example, "The Week Ahead" shows current conditions, "Tomorrow" shows the forecast for the upcoming week, etc.  It's not a problem to show what's coming next, but that should be clearly differentiated from what's currently being shown.

4.) On the current conditions display, the data covers up the labels ("visibility," for example).

5.) On the week ahead display, the day labels and the colored banners underneath them don't quite match, and the result looks very sloppy.

6.) Where's the clock on the small LDL?

Other than that (whew!), the idea seems to be quite good, and I look forward to the Intellistar HD being deployed in my area... hopefully with a bit more tweaking. :)
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Tyler on July 15, 2010, 10:21:56 PM
Martin, are those actual screenshots, or something you created?  If they are actual shots, I have a couple of issues:

1.) I don't mind that the national current conditions bar on the left is still shown, but, since the radar on the bottom left corner is hidden by the local LDL, the "radar" label should be either removed or repositioned on the national feed so that it's no longer indicating a radar that's hidden to those now seeing a local LDL.
Good point. I'll have to bring that to their attention.


2.) Why is the Intellistar HD using the pre-2010 weather icons?
The set was designed specifically for HD. Thats why it looked so crappy on the SD IntelliStar. The IntelliStar 2 will use these icons and the network will continue to use the simplified version. That's just how it is.

3.) The banner underneath the city name is a little confusing.  For example, "The Week Ahead" shows current conditions, "Tomorrow" shows the forecast for the upcoming week, etc.  It's not a problem to show what's coming next, but that should be clearly differentiated from what's currently being shown.

4.) On the current conditions display, the data covers up the labels ("visibility," for example).

5.) On the week ahead display, the day labels and the colored banners underneath them don't quite match, and the result looks very sloppy.
Those were mock images. A video of the real thing in action is coming soon.

6.) Where's the clock on the small LDL?
You will see in the video...
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2010, 10:48:46 PM
Interesting that included Teaneck in the LDL recreation (that is the same area where I frequent each year) . I love the new LDL design either way.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Tyler on July 16, 2010, 12:58:43 AM
Here is a video of the 30% LDL in action! I'll have a 16% video shortly...

HD LF 30% LDL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDOvGjuUshg#ws)
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Al on July 16, 2010, 01:07:08 AM
now that's impressive :biggrin:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Steve-O on July 16, 2010, 01:17:20 AM
Wow - that's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: TWCToday on July 16, 2010, 02:16:40 AM
I agree. I think the LDL looks spectacular! Perhaps better than the lf!
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: mightynine on July 16, 2010, 12:59:59 PM
LDL looks far more polished that the LOT8s at the moment.

However, I don't see the need  for the purple, or yet another font being used.  It just looks out of place.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 16, 2010, 01:02:58 PM
I love the LDL, damn impressive. What is with the LDA being stuck on Omaha though? Will the LDA be removed?
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 16, 2010, 01:23:57 PM
I love the LDL, damn impressive. What is with the LDA being stuck on Omaha though? Will the LDA be removed?
What do you mean? If you haven't seen the new HD LDL everything with the sidebar is going away. The images above are just to give you an idea
yes that's what I meant, I thought the sidebar was called the LDA.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Eric on July 16, 2010, 03:12:11 PM
Thanks for your comments, Tyler.

I took a look at the video, and I'm impressed!
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Tyler on July 16, 2010, 03:28:01 PM
The lda will remain even with the HD ldl
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 16, 2010, 03:55:53 PM
it looks awkward and unmatched with the LDL on. Plus the LDA is only covering the cities for the entire country, not the area that the HD Star serves. In a sense, how will that be useful to viewers?
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Zach on July 16, 2010, 04:03:51 PM
I personally like the LDA behind the local LDL. Although it does ruin the meaning of HD; the way I see it, it could be a resource for travel forecasts although the national radar will be blocked off by a local radar.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: TWCToday on July 16, 2010, 07:16:41 PM
The lda will remain even with the HD ldl

I thought this was eventually replacing it http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7944/newbigldl1.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7944/newbigldl1.jpg)
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Tyler on July 16, 2010, 11:05:59 PM
Not to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Mike M on July 17, 2010, 12:43:11 AM
Geesh, so many LDLs now it's confusing! Only two years ago, there were two main LDLs (XL and IntelliStar).  :lol:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Eric on July 17, 2010, 12:45:19 AM
Geesh, so many LDLs now it's confusing! Only two years ago, there were two main LDLs (XL and IntelliStar).  :lol:

Heck, I thought the goose laid the golden egg way back in the day when the WeatherStar 4000's LDL started showing the "Today's/Tomorrow's forecast" line! :)
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Mike M on July 17, 2010, 12:47:08 AM
I was beyond amazed when I started seeing that translucent bar on the XL. :bleh:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on July 17, 2010, 10:56:26 AM
The lda will remain even with the HD ldl

I thought this was eventually replacing it [url]http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7944/newbigldl1.jpg[/url] ([url]http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7944/newbigldl1.jpg[/url])


That's what i was thinking when i snapped the pic but hopefully in the future this is used.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: tuez13 on July 17, 2010, 12:03:53 PM
The flashiness of it is really cool...but maybe a bit too much.  Flying suns and moons, spinning cubes and what have you are a little much.    Also, isn't it assumed that when the clock is displayed next to the temp that the temp is the current reading?  The flipping between NOW and the temp is not needed.  The whole thing looks good but I still prefer the old blue LDL.  Simple and not too distracting but still showing pertinent information.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: curtjr4 on July 18, 2010, 12:47:25 PM
The flashiness of it is really cool...but maybe a bit too much.  Flying suns and moons, spinning cubes and what have you are a little much.    Also, isn't it assumed that when the clock is displayed next to the temp that the temp is the current reading?  The flipping between NOW and the temp is not needed.  The whole thing looks good but I still prefer the old blue LDL.  Simple and not too distracting but still showing pertinent information.
Agreed with the blue LDL. But, I also love this LDL on the I2. ;)
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: twcc_Dj0287 on July 20, 2010, 07:35:16 AM
On the new LDL the on temperature tab it has forecast for the high and low...there will no longer be the previous days high and low (yesterdays actual) like on the almanac?
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 31, 2010, 02:04:19 PM
Will there be ads on the HD LDLs? :dunno: Also, on the "Next 8 hours" part of this big LDL, the icons look too high. :blink:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Mike M on July 31, 2010, 04:06:35 PM
Will there be ads on the HD LDLs? :dunno: Also, on the "Next 8 hours" part of this big LDL, the icons look too high. :blink:
Yes, the small LDL has ads, and the large one will soon have them too as Tyler stated.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Zach on July 31, 2010, 04:13:29 PM
Will there be ads on the HD LDLs? :dunno: Also, on the "Next 8 hours" part of this big LDL, the icons look too high. :blink:
Yes, the small LDL has ads, and the large one will soon have them too as Tyler stated.
There are currently no videos of the small LDL up yet and based on the concepts posted part of the LDL doesnt disappear like how the IS LDL does
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 31, 2010, 10:14:19 PM
Tyler, do you have a video of the 16% LDL?
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Tyler on August 09, 2010, 01:51:26 PM
16% LDL

HD LDL 16% (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rZF0co0IIw#ws)
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 09, 2010, 04:18:38 PM
Thanks for posting! :thrilled: I like the graphics and animation, but it is kind of distracting in a way, especially with all the flares and stuff. :thinking:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Trevor on August 09, 2010, 06:18:48 PM
Thanks for posting! :thrilled: I like the graphics and animation, but it is kind of distracting in a way, especially with all the flares and stuff. :thinking:

I like it, but there is a little bit too much animation.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 09, 2010, 06:27:48 PM
The LDL just like the Icons have lovers and haters, so we're going to have to live with change.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: TWCToday on August 10, 2010, 03:34:10 AM
Thanks for posting! :thrilled: I like the graphics and animation, but it is kind of distracting in a way, especially with all the flares and stuff. :thinking:

I like it, but there is a little bit too much animation.
Its like pixie dust there at the start. That could be reduced a little. Remember TWC is trying to get cable companies to shell out money for something they dont really need. Its gonna have all the bling bling and flashy stuff they can cram in
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 12, 2010, 02:13:39 PM
Its like pixie dust there at the start. That could be reduced a little. Remember TWC is trying to get cable companies to shell out money for something they dont really need. Its gonna have all the bling bling and flashy stuff they can cram in
Eye candy does sell.  Remember "Day After Tomorrow" with all its special effects?  That's what TWC is banking on with this new IS and the new shiny graphics.  People will buy into it.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: TWCToday on August 13, 2010, 02:09:43 AM
Its like pixie dust there at the start. That could be reduced a little. Remember TWC is trying to get cable companies to shell out money for something they dont really need. Its gonna have all the bling bling and flashy stuff they can cram in
Eye candy does sell.  Remember "Day After Tomorrow" with all its special effects?  That's what TWC is banking on with this new IS and the new shiny graphics.  People will buy into it.
Avatar  :whistling:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: phw115wvwx on August 13, 2010, 04:38:50 AM
Its like pixie dust there at the start. That could be reduced a little. Remember TWC is trying to get cable companies to shell out money for something they dont really need. Its gonna have all the bling bling and flashy stuff they can cram in
Eye candy does sell.  Remember "Day After Tomorrow" with all its special effects?  That's what TWC is banking on with this new IS and the new shiny graphics.  People will buy into it.
Avatar  :whistling:
Oh, yes!  That's even a better example. :yes:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Jonathon on August 16, 2010, 04:42:04 PM
Where's the 33% LDL?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on August 16, 2010, 04:53:11 PM
Where's the 33% LDL?  :dunno:

right here: https://twctodayforums.com/forums/intellistar-2-discussion/intellistar-2-ldl/msg135715/#msg135715 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/intellistar-2-discussion/intellistar-2-ldl/msg135715/#msg135715)
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Jonathon on August 16, 2010, 04:56:15 PM
Where's the 33% LDL?  :dunno:

right here: https://twctodayforums.com/forums/intellistar-2-discussion/intellistar-2-ldl/msg135715/#msg135715 (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/intellistar-2-discussion/intellistar-2-ldl/msg135715/#msg135715)
Thank you, Alex.  :yes:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Charismatic Applesauce on December 25, 2010, 12:56:40 AM
One complaint I have for the logo on the IS2 LDL is that it's washed out, like on the national LDLs.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Zach on December 25, 2010, 08:08:31 AM
One complaint I have for the logo on the IS2 LDL is that it's washed out, like on the national LDLs.
It may be the saturation in the video causing that but if you watch it on an actual HDTV the color has more depth
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Austin M. on January 29, 2011, 10:41:15 PM
Snapped a few (unfortunately, low res) pictures of the IS2 Alpha and the LDL.
These were just plain shots from my iPod, on which I was watching the stream of TWC on Justin.tv.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Zach on January 29, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
Snapped a few (unfortunately, low res) pictures of the IS2 Alpha and the LDL
All i see is the national LDL/LF :wacko:
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Austin M. on January 29, 2011, 10:47:23 PM
That is what this unit is, the IS2 Alpha. Isn't it basically the national feed?
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Zach on January 29, 2011, 10:55:59 PM
That is what this unit is, the IS2 Alpha. Isn't it basically the national feed?
First off, that is not the IS2.. second off, where on earth did you get the idea that this was an IS2 alpha? And finally, that is the feed any receiver without an IS2 would see.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Austin M. on January 29, 2011, 11:02:14 PM
It isn't? Crap. I guess it is the Beta STAR in New York.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Eric on January 29, 2011, 11:51:09 PM
It isn't? Crap. I guess it is the Beta STAR in New York.

The pictures you showed are of the national HD feed without any local Star at all.  The LDL and the local forecast are generated at TWC in Atlanta and broadcast throughout the entire country, the same way programming and commercials are.  A Star will broadcast OVER the local forecast portion to air a locally-produced local forecast, and an Intellistar will broadcast its own LDL OVER the national LDL.

What you showed has no involvement of any Star at all.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Trevor on January 30, 2011, 09:16:37 AM
As Eric stated in the previous post, you have the national HD forecast, just like all Comcast and Satellite subscribers. When Comcast gets the IS2, only Satellite customers will see the feed you have captured. I sent you a picture of what the IS2 will look like when you get it.

BTW - There is no such thing as a Beta STAR anymore. The Beta has been replaced by the IS2.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: twcmaster on January 30, 2011, 02:33:25 PM
BTW - There is no such thing as a Beta STAR anymore. The Beta has been replaced by the IS2.

We still have an Alpha HD Star here on Time Warner in NYC.
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Trevor on January 30, 2011, 06:41:19 PM
BTW - There is no such thing as a Beta STAR anymore. The Beta has been replaced by the IS2.

We still have an Alpha HD Star here on Time Warner in NYC.

I meant Cablevision...sorry!
Title: Re: Intellistar 2 LDL
Post by: Localonthe8s on January 30, 2011, 07:25:06 PM
WTF how's that possible? I thiught time Warner carried the satellite feed. We were at a family ocassion in Long Island last summer and when I saw twc HD on their TV, it was the satellite feed and they had Time Warner. I thought  cablevision only carried it weird