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Weather Discussion => Hazardous Weather => Hurricane Central => Topic started by: Mr. Rainman on October 22, 2012, 07:53:02 PM
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Tropical Storm Sandy has formed south of Jamaica. This storm may become very interesting as models turn in into a hybrid low pressure system and possibly drag it into New England by the weekend - this is far away and there are still a lot of uncertainties but it is something to keep an eye on.
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Sandy is up to 45 mph winds, but it's currently not moving. It should begin to drift northward once the steering currents aloft allow it.
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:wow: :faint:
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:wow: :faint:
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The models have indeed been very impressive and aggressive with this hybrid low over the past few days, and right now I have increasing concern that a landfall - or at least some significant effects of this storm - will be felt across New England with potentially very heavy snow in the Appalachians. Still, the models have a lot to sort out, and I am very suspicious of the extreme low pressure noted by the models - especially since the likelihood of such an event occurring is highly unlikely - if not damn near impossible (937 mb? What?!).
For those of you following this, I would point to HPC's medium range surface analysis forecast for a good idea on thoughts for this system. Current low pressure is 986 mb and just offshore the coastline for Day 7.
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I know you all love seeing the extreme solutions, but my opinion is that Sandy will just harmlessly go out to sea and give the East Coast a little wind and waves. As you can tell, I'm against the ECMWF solution and favor more in between but closer to the GFS solution. If I see a major change, then I will definitely reconsider. It would be a big win for the ECMWF if it verified, but all the models have a bias with not showing storms curving out to sea fast enough.
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Even the 18z OP GFS has this system curving back NW a little bit into Nova Scotia, notice how far and tight the pressure gradient extends out. It would still be very windy next week even though the storm might be several hundred miles away.
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18z GFS Ensemble Mean:
http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/gfsensemble/18zgfsensemble500mbHGHTtropical204.gif (http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/gfsensemble/18zgfsensemble500mbHGHTtropical204.gif)
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A 937 mb nor'easter? *whistles*
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Folks, please don't post such huge images that run off the screen. Either make them smaller, or change the images to links as I've done above. I would not put any stock in the 06Z and 18Z models at this point as they don't have upper air data. Only the 00Z and 12Z models get radiosonde data from all around North America.
Also, Sandy is now a hurricane with winds of 80 mph. Jamaica is going to be hit well by this one. The forecast track still takes the storm along the East Coast before turning it eastward. It doesn't seem like the model solutions have changed yet, but I would expect something to give soon.
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12z GFS run takes Sandy to landfall in Southern Maine/ NH @ 948mb. 00z ECMWF makes landfall in New Jersey @ 933mb. 12z ECMWF takes landfall in Southern New Jersey/Maryland/Delaware @ 935mb. Still some huge uncertainty in the models. The storm can make landfall anywhere from Maryland to Nova Scotia according to the models.
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HPC is now strongly suggesting major impacts could be felt in New England from this storm. The pressures associated with the models still appear to be highly exaggerated - although pressure could certainly be in the low to mid 970s - possibly high 960s.
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Every time I see these models, I'm thinking to myself, "Really?" :blink: It's a worst-case scenario for New England if it actually came true. Everything depends on whether Sandy will interact with the upper-level trough over the Great Lakes to pull it westward. The other alternative is that Sandy will miss the trough and go eastward out to sea but still provide some strong winds and waves for that area.
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This thing wound up pretty fast, Sunday it looked like crap. Three days later after having phone/internet service again, it caught me by surprise to see were talking about a hurricane. :blink: Sandy is certainly one of the best looking hurricanes I've seen all hurricane season. :yes:
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Sandy is now a Category 2 monster with winds of 110 mph. She could very likely become a major hurricane within the next 12 to 24 hours.
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I haven't done any research into these, but I've been hearing similarities between Sandy and "The Perfect Storm (1991)" and Hurricane Hazel (1954) being buzzed up. I didn't expect it to go through rapid intensification to become a Cat. 2 right now. Cat. 3 status is certainly not out of the question before weakening as it heads NNE then back NNW. :yes:
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Amazing - New England goes more than a decade without a strike after Hurricane Bob, then two strikes in two years.
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OMG!!! :wow: I have never been this pumped for a storm ever!
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Note: This image will update
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NHC has asked all NWS sites in the continental United States to launch weather balloons every 6 hours instead of the usual 12 from this afternoon through Saturday morning. Eastern NWS sites will keep launching these special balloons through Tuesday morning unless NHC stops it sooner. Hopefully, the models will finally converge on Sandy's exact track with this extra data. It means a fair bit of overtime for me these next few days.
Now that the GFS has finally joined the ECMWF in predicting Sandy to make landfall over the Northeast after turning extratropical along the way, my disbelief from earlier is turning into panic. In addition to winds, storm surge, flooding, and the risk for tornadoes, there could be some good snow accumulations possible along the back side of this storm where the cold air in the upper-level trough resides. I swear this whole situation is a perfect "It Can Happen Tomorrow" script, but it's real! :blink:
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Somebody at the HPC dubbed Sandy "Frankenstorm"in one of their discussions today. :lol:
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I haven't done any research into these, but I've been hearing similarities between Sandy and "The Perfect Storm (1991)" and Hurricane Hazel (1954) being buzzed up. I didn't expect it to go through rapid intensification to become a Cat. 2 right now. Cat. 3 status is certainly not out of the question before weakening as it heads NNE then back NNW. :yes:
OK, wow, it's really creepy that you make this comparison Tavores, because they will essentially be happening around the exact same time period! :o
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There are already talks about closing the casinos in Atlantic City later next week. NJ is going to feel the brunt of this storm. It's too soon to tell how much of an effect Sandy will do the NYC metro area - this will be very interesting. A nor'easter and a major hurricane combined. Don't think we've seen a storm make landfall here..let alone this late in the season!
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GOES-14 will be doing 1-minute scans of Sandy until landfall or dissipation. You can view a constantly updating loop here, at
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/templates/loop_directory.asp?data_folder=dev/lindsey/loops/goes14&image_width=1020&image_height=720&number_of_images_to_display=50 (http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/templates/loop_directory.asp?data_folder=dev/lindsey/loops/goes14&image_width=1020&image_height=720&number_of_images_to_display=50)
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ECMWF had Sandy phasing too early and is now on par with other models for a NJ/NY/New England hit.
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Sandy just gave me the wettest bike ride home from work I've ever had. I got soaked straight through. It was just... disgusting.
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This question is for Patrick, I thought I would ask it here because it would be more relevant to the conversation. My question is would the NHC issue tropical weather warnings for a storm that will most likely be post-tropical by the time it gets here? I'm wondering if the NHC will issue warnings for us or just our local NWS office will have to issue several individual warnings like Hind Wind Warning, Coastal Flood Warning, etc. For the sake of saving lives, I think issuing a tropical storm warning or hurricane warning would be much easier for common people to understand rather than having several different warnings and have everyone understand what each warning means.
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This question is for Patrick, I thought I would ask it here because it would be more relevant to the conversation. My question is would the NHC issue tropical weather warnings for a storm that will most likely be post-tropical by the time it gets here? I'm wondering if the NHC will issue warnings for us or just our local NWS office will have to issue several individual warnings like Hind Wind Warning, Coastal Flood Warning, etc. For the sake of saving lives, I think issuing a tropical storm warning or hurricane warning would be much easier for common people to understand rather than having several different warnings and have everyone understand what each warning means.
If NHC drops a cyclone from tropical status before it reaches landfall, then they can't issue any tropical watches or warnings. It would be up to the individual NWS offices at that point to issue other advisories, watches, and warnings. A cyclone has to become completely extratropical for the tropical status to be dropped, so I think NHC will likely leave Sandy as tropical all the way to landfall as indicated in the forecast track.
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The latest GFS posted on Reed Timmer's FB page shows it going right for NYC/Long Island and perhaps a small slither of northern jersey.
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Dayton, Ohio's current Tuesday forecast is "Rain and snow" with highs in the low 40s. Our normal high would be about 59. Winter Storm Watches are out in West Virginia's higher elevations.
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I would call for a landfall in Sothern NJ at this point. I'm putting more of my confidence in the global models rather than the hurricane models at this point.
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Sorry for double post!
I think it's a bad call by the NHC not to issue any warnings/watches for the region. Local offices are now issuing individual advisories which I think will make the public not take this storm seriously.
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This question is for Patrick, I thought I would ask it here because it would be more relevant to the conversation. My question is would the NHC issue tropical weather warnings for a storm that will most likely be post-tropical by the time it gets here? I'm wondering if the NHC will issue warnings for us or just our local NWS office will have to issue several individual warnings like Hind Wind Warning, Coastal Flood Warning, etc. For the sake of saving lives, I think issuing a tropical storm warning or hurricane warning would be much easier for common people to understand rather than having several different warnings and have everyone understand what each warning means.
If NHC drops a cyclone from tropical status before it reaches landfall, then they can't issue any tropical watches or warnings. It would be up to the individual NWS offices at that point to issue other advisories, watches, and warnings. A cyclone has to become completely extratropical for the tropical status to be dropped, so I think NHC will likely leave Sandy as tropical all the way to landfall as indicated in the forecast track.
As of the latest advisory, NHC now has Sandy as extra-tropical before making landfall. The "strength" will still be a hurricane, but I guess this is why no watches or warnings have been issued for the affected areas.
What "tropical characteristics" will it be losing? :dunno:
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This question is for Patrick, I thought I would ask it here because it would be more relevant to the conversation. My question is would the NHC issue tropical weather warnings for a storm that will most likely be post-tropical by the time it gets here? I'm wondering if the NHC will issue warnings for us or just our local NWS office will have to issue several individual warnings like Hind Wind Warning, Coastal Flood Warning, etc. For the sake of saving lives, I think issuing a tropical storm warning or hurricane warning would be much easier for common people to understand rather than having several different warnings and have everyone understand what each warning means.
If NHC drops a cyclone from tropical status before it reaches landfall, then they can't issue any tropical watches or warnings. It would be up to the individual NWS offices at that point to issue other advisories, watches, and warnings. A cyclone has to become completely extratropical for the tropical status to be dropped, so I think NHC will likely leave Sandy as tropical all the way to landfall as indicated in the forecast track.
As of the latest advisory, NHC now has Sandy as extra-tropical before making landfall. The "strength" will still be a hurricane, but I guess this is why no watches or warnings have been issued for the affected areas.
What "tropical characteristics" will it be losing? :dunno:
It will be deriving most of its energy from baroclinic forcing at that point. Cold air infiltrating and the NW side and warm air being sucked in on the SE side of this storm will make it extra-tropical. Tropical cyclones derive all of their energy from warm air masses. This storm, by the time it gets here, will be deriving its energy from both cold and warm air.
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As for the warnings, the entire Northeast is now under multiple watches/warnings/advisories, so the warning is definitely out. I really hope people make some common sense decisions in these areas and evacuate or at least make or be completing preparations for Sandy, especially those in coastal and low-lying areas, as I have a feeling the flooding in these areas could be unprecedented.
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It looks like the landfall Sandy will make will be somewhere over central jersey. South jersey will get the bands but the eye (does the storm even have one) will make its mark somewhere over northern OCean County. This is a bad area...extremely low lying area. Tons of swamps and rivers does not help
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I agree. A Central NJ landfall is my best bet. This would make it a nightmare scenario for NNJ, NYC and LI. Significant storm surge, extreme high winds and heavy rain. 925mb winds over LI are forecast to be 80-110kts which means a small possibility to see gusts up to 100mph at the surface. Wow :thrilled:
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Sorry for double post!
I think it's a bad call by the NHC not to issue any warnings/watches for the region. Local offices are now issuing individual advisories which I think will make the public not take this storm seriously.
I had several long discussions at this past conference I attended about public perception and getting the word out. One person I talked to was actually hired to provide suggestions for rewording warnings. There were so many little things that added up to the confusing mess we have now. For example: why are warnings in caps? There may have been technological limits in the old days but certainly not anymore. The person I talked to provided lots of suggestions for improving warnings so that the average human being on this planet could understand it. Add icons or graphics for example. Of course all of the changes were "noted" but I doubt you will ever see any.
The NWS (NHC, etc) has a public image problem. Its not improving but only getting worse. This case is a perfect example of how bureaucracy and rules get in the way of the end goal.... saving lives! If the weather center ever hopes to be a "Weather Ready Nation" they better start preparing themselves rather than the public. If a Hurricane Warning is issued for Delaware and they receive 70mph winds, 12in of rain and major coastal flooding I doubt the public will be in an outrage that they issued a warning when the system was developing non tropical characteristics. ugh!
I dare you to ask the first non weather person you can find what they think a "Wind Warning" means then ask them what a "Hurricane Warning" means.
As for the warnings, the entire Northeast is now under multiple watches/warnings/advisories, so the warning is definitely out. I really hope people make some common sense decisions in these areas and evacuate or at least make or be completing preparations for Sandy, especially those in coastal and low-lying areas, as I have a feeling the flooding in these areas could be unprecedented.
I currently have a: High Wind Warning, Coastal Flood Warning, Flood Watch for my area. Not a person in my area relates any of those to a major storm. We have Coastal Flood Warnings all the time, Flood Watches are nothing new either. I keep hearing the same thing from everyone I know outside the wx community "oh it wont be that bad". ~sigh~
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All the models have Sandy pinned for a landfall in New Jersey on Monday night. NHC is letting the individual offices put up their own warnings that were already in place due to Sandy probably becoming non-tropical before landfall. They also issued a report to explain the reasoning here for the warning strategy you're all seeing:
www.nhc.noaa.gov/news/20121027_pa_sandyTransition.pdf (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/news/20121027_pa_sandyTransition.pdf)
Martin, I can actually explain a lot of the reasons you see these problems: The NWS is graded every year by their performance statistics that are sent to Congress to prove we're doing a good job and deserve to be funded at all for next year. With the government trying to cut the deficit, this issue becomes a big deal for the NWS's survival. Probability of detection for hurricane conditions is one of those statistics that is graded, so NHC has to observe the rules or risk getting hit badly in the eyes of everyone else above for issuing tropical warnings when a storm isn't tropical. They're already aware that things aren't perfect, and there's a social science team working for the NWS to work on improving warnings over the next several years. I think you actually ran into one earlier based on your remarks.
However, the public also needs to do its job by learning about weather and what we do. A "warning" for any hazard means your life and property is at serious risk, and you should take action now. There's so many people in the public and even in our government that doesn't know who the NWS is and what we do. We're confused with TWC all the time. As a result, it's very easy for everyone to criticize us. I've already heard many NWS forecasters say we don't get enough credit and appreciation for the job we do despite trying to follow the rules that have been handed down to us beyond our control. I'm sorry if I seem rather defensive here, but I'm working 13 hours of overtime in a matter of four days just to give you all extra balloon launches to help the models pinpoint Sandy's track. Try working a 2 PM to 3:30 AM shift twice in a row, and maybe you'll see why I feel a little unappreciated by these comments.
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Related but unrelated, felt I should share:
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Related but unrelated, felt I should share:
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It's been passed on all over FB.
All of NJ's state offices and universities are closing tomorrow. Rutgers is closing tomorrow and Tuesday. :dance:
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I REALLY wish I could watch TWC right now but I have no access to a TV in my dorm. I am hearing they are reporting live from the AC boardwalk is this true???
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/10/thousands_flee_atlantic_city_a.html (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/10/thousands_flee_atlantic_city_a.html)
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With less than 24 hours before landfall, all I can say to the people of the Northeast and New England is "godspeed."
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Sandy is a 946mb 85mph Cat 1. hurricane, strengthening more than expected and it's not even over the gulf stream yet. I see a disaster for us.
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Never in my life have I seen the Stock Market close for anything other than a national or federal holiday. It will be closed today and possibly tomorrow.
I really hope the folks who were told to evacuate got the heck out of the way especially if they're in areas where they rode out Irene last year because this will be a lot WORSE. This ain't no Irene were screwin' around with! Irene is a treat compared to this nasty Halloween trick Sandy is going to unleash.
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Never in my life have I seen the Stock Market close for anything other than a national or federal holiday.
It was closed last year for Irene.
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TWC is using Titan right now on Youtube. Just a radar loop view.
LIVE Hurricane Sandy Coverage - The Weather Channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXMU2qwCVag#)
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Now a 90mph 943mb Hurricane...wow.....I'm screwed. :unsure:
Winds already gusting up to and over 60mph here.
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When a hurricane undergoes extratropical transition, which is happening right now to Sandy, there can be a temporary increase in intensity due to the baroclinic instability created from temperature gradients. Small warm and cold fronts are appearing near the center. Southern New Jersey this evening is the landfall target, but I hope everyone is prepared in the Mid-Atlantic and the Northeast.
I still can't believe a week ago that the ECMWF was showing something like this scenario happening, which I'm sure many forecasters and myself laughed at initially as it was so wacky. However, it's now coming true, so the ECMWF has definitely earned the distinction of best model in the long range if anyone had any doubt.
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Sandy is now expected to make landfall as a strong Cat 1 at AC. Atlantic City will take a direct hit as the place has already been completely flooded with 5-6 feet of water. I just hope my friends and family are safe back home. My parents decided to stay in the hurricane zone, just not by the shore
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Irene made landfall during a weekend, so the market would be closed. As far as I can see from the records the exchange opened as normal the following Monday.
Technically the market is open today - just only for electronic trades. And the only time I can remember the market being closed is September 11th...and the following day when it plunged 600 points.
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do u think the nhc will retire the name? i certainly say so it probably may be the only storm to be retired this year given so many other disappointing fishes this season
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do u think the nhc will retire the name? i certainly say so it probably may be the only storm to be retired this year given so many other disappointing fishes this season
It's already being projected to cost 80 billion dollars in US damage (that's not including the damage costs in Cuba/Jamaica) so I would say it's very likely to be retired imo.
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Sandy is hauling some tail towards Atlantic City and should make landfall early this evening.
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do u think the nhc will retire the name? i certainly say so it probably may be the only storm to be retired this year given so many other disappointing fishes this season
Isaac may be as well....
I believe, at this point, we have switched over to advisories every two hours until landfall...
This is an interesting perspective:
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I think Isaac may be retired. It did cause extensive flooding in Florida but how much were the damages?
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do u think the nhc will retire the name? i certainly say so it probably may be the only storm to be retired this year given so many other disappointing fishes this season
Victor, NHC has absolutely zero control on name retirements. It's up to the World Meteorological Organization to make that decision, and that process won't be done until next spring. Each country's government decides what storms to nominate for retirement, but the World Meteorological Organization makes the vote and also decides on a replacement name if a retirement is done.
Jesse, your satellite perspective reveals how far more impressive Sandy is compared to Isaac. The impacts from Sandy will be way worse than Isaac.
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Wow, look at all of these warnings/watches/advisories that have popped up due to Sandy! Over 95% of the east coast has some form of an advisory/watch/warning currently! :o
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Well now our ABC affiliate has jumped on the Superstorm Sandy name branding bandwagon now. :P Sandy continues to amaze me as we have extensive tree damage and power outages even down here. They are covering Sandy about as much as TWC is.
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Meanwhile, Sandy has brought my area a winter wonderland! There are even blizzard warnings up in West Virginia as some people in the higher elevations could see up to a foot of snow with high winds. When did any of you all think this expression in emoticon form would ever come true? :hurricane: = :snow:
By the way, NHC has declared that Sandy is extratropical as there are warm and cold sectors in the center of this cyclone. Baroclinic processes are driving Sandy now. Thus, it's no longer a hurricane. However, NHC will continue to issue advisories on Sandy until it's inland so that the data flow isn't disrupted. The lowest pressure Sandy reached was 940 mb, which is quite impressive. I can't believe that the ECMWF was this accurate with the pressure a week ago! :o
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Final advisory comes in at 11pm, in which all duties will then be passed off to the HPC.
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The amount of damage I am seeing in New Jersey and New York City is beyond comprehension. The death toll from this storm - and the eventual cost, which personally I think could rival Katrina - is likely going to be very high.
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We should rename the thread "Superstorm Sandy" as that's what all the media outlets are calling the storm at this point. the HPC is issuing advisories now and still track it the same track the NHC did.
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At least 33 people are dead in the United States alone, and that number will sadly rise a lot more. There's already been 69 other deaths in the Caribbean blamed on Sandy. I hope everyone here that was directly in the path of this storm is safe. This storm name will almost certainly be retired in my meteorological opinion when the final cost and toll are revealed. It's already a worthy case study for years to come in research, too.
I hope the general public actually starts caring and learning about weather for once. You just can't fit everything into one neat box, and Sandy showed that fact perfectly by how it transitioned from one state to another to produce hurricane and winter storm conditions from the same system. For perspective here, astronomers have recently identified distant planets in our universe with weather so extreme that it would be impossible for life to exist. Imagine a planet with winds faster than the speed of sound and a temperature difference of over 1,000°F between the day and night sides. Those conditions have been observed on multiple planets. You really have to appreciate things more when you explore our universe and realize how much weather can affect everything.
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Complete devistation here on LI. It's almost like Katrina here but a little less.
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Complete devistation here on LI. It's almost like Katrina here but a little less.
Long Island is bad but comparing it to Katrina is pushing it a bit. Very different scenarios here. It's certainly the worst flooding event to ever hit NYC.
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]Complete devistation here on LI. It's almost like Katrina here but a little less.
Long Island is bad but comparing it to Katrina is pushing it a bit. Very different scenarios here. It's certainly the worst flooding event to ever hit NYC.
Interestingly enough, Mike Bettes mentioned this morning that the damage up in Long Island did remind him of the damage on the MS Coast after Hurricane Katrina.
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We have no power in North Jersey currently using Internet on my phone. Lots of trees down will try to take pics if I get a chance to go outside today
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We got the highest winds from this storm as a LLJ set up over LI with 110mph winds. Highest sustained winds here in Islip were 56mph gusting to 90mph, highest wind gust on the island was 96mph. Still without power here. The damage here was way worse than Irene, Fire Island will never be the same again. The worse hurricane here since the 1938 hurricane.
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The NJ coastline was battered as with NY. It's going to take time to rebuild. What about New England? was Boston heavily affected like NY? So far NYC is still "shut down" no transit services running all offices and schools still closed
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Boston's doing pretty well, considering many are without power. There's some damage, but it's nowhere near what we saw from Rhode Island on down. Some suburbs cancelled Halloween trick or treating due to the aftermath. However, a bow echo did travel north along the eastern Mass. coast yesterday evening.
Logan International is open, but no flights are coming in or out.
Not sure how Martha's Vineyard and other island getaways are doing.
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I must say I am very happy to see that FEMA and the government are handling this much better than in Katrina. It looks the lesson she left in 2005 has been heeded this week.
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Death toll now up to 72 in the East Coast
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Got power back. Gas stations are running out of gas and people are starting to get very desperate around here.
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Got power back. Gas stations are running out of gas and people are starting to get very desperate around here.
Glad to hear you have power again, from what I've heard about half of the 8+ million who lost power now has it restored since Monday. I feel terrible for the folks in Staten Island, I hope city officials and FEMA start working more aggressively and urgently as they can today and into the weekend to help the residents there recover from the aftermath. :(
On another note to Sandy, I think it's clear that going by damage estimates, Sandy should rank in the top 5, if not possibly #2, replacing Hurricane Ike or Andrew (when adding in inflation it would rank #2 at 43 Billion) as the Second Costliest Hurricane running behind Hurricane Katrina (2005).
As far as the deadliest hurricane ranking, Sandy will most likely come in the top 5 as well somewhere between Ike #3 (2008) and Hugo #4 (1989) as the current death toll stands at 94 and unfortunately could rise over the weekend.
Lastly I saw this on weather.com of comparisons between the big female powerhouses, Katrina, Irene, and Sandy.
(http://i.imwx.com/web/news/2012/infographic2.jpg)
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That's an amazing graphic!
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WeatherScan Local Forecasts: Hurricane Sandy 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3b44l1N8sY#)
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That's a nice graphic, but I don't like how they chose to present it. Namely, why did TWC choose to put Irene on this graphic? I understand a lot of people in the Northeast will be comparing Sandy and Irene (though there's really no need to; we know which one was worse), but Irene seems kind of pointless when comparing costliest and deadliest hurricanes. Included on that list should be Ike, and if you want to go far back in time, Andrew.
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The only problem I have with the graphic is that some of the numbers will unfortunately keep rising such as the cost and the death toll so it's too early to start comparing when it's not completely over. Also, to put Irene in the picture wasn't a bad idea IMO. I compared this storm to Irene and Sandy was definitely worse. Irene was the most recent natural disaster to hit the northeast so people would compare it to Sandy. I will actually make my own little graphic of Irene compared to Sandy and post it tomorrow in my "Long Island Weather" thread.
Also, I don't know if anyone else noticed on the graph for Max US. Rainfall/Snowfall that even though Sandy had only 12.6" of max rain, the bar graph is higher than Irene's, which has 15" of max rainfall.
I also want to make a quick note how the media is mainly focusing on NJ and NYC rather than LI and SNE. Bad media, bad :(
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I don't know what to say about this. :no:
Georgia power crew turned away from Sandy-stricken New York for refusing to join union (http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/02/theres-more-georgia-power-crew-turned-away-from-sandy-stricken-new-york-for-refusing-to-join-union/)
Hopefully it's just a misunderstanding. :dunno:
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It seems like the Weather Channel is about to be outdone in documentary coverage of Sandy. Three networks have one-hour shows lined up over the next few days:
National Geographic: November 15 at 10 PM EST
http://news.brevardtimes.com/2012/11/natgeo-superstorm-sandy-documentary-nov.html (http://news.brevardtimes.com/2012/11/natgeo-superstorm-sandy-documentary-nov.html)
History: November 18 at 9 PM EST
http://tv.broadwayworld.com/article/History-Channel-to-Examine-Recent-Storms-in-SUPERSTORM-2012-HELL-AND-HIGH-WATER-1118-20121109 (http://tv.broadwayworld.com/article/History-Channel-to-Examine-Recent-Storms-in-SUPERSTORM-2012-HELL-AND-HIGH-WATER-1118-20121109)
Discovery: November 18 at 9 PM EST
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/11/02/super-storm-premieres-sunday-november-18-on-discoverys-curiosity/155891/ (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/11/02/super-storm-premieres-sunday-november-18-on-discoverys-curiosity/155891/)
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The name Sandy was replaced by Sara.
http://news.msn.com/us/sandy-retired-from-tropical-storm-name-list (http://news.msn.com/us/sandy-retired-from-tropical-storm-name-list)
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As monumental and destructive as this storm truly was, I'm not surprised Sandy was retired. Hopefully, we won't have any hurricanes get that bad this year.
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Me neither. Not surprised. It will probably be the best storm I ever experienced and maybe ever will. I love hurricanes and high wind storms but I hope we don't get hit again this summer. There would literally be no more beach left. It's pretty rare to get a hurricane each year for 3 consecutive years here anyway.