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Tropical Storm Emily
« on: August 01, 2011, 07:32:01 PM »
Tropical Storm Emily has formed, thank goodness. More details to follow.
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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 07:34:15 PM »
looking at the drought monitor GA/FL will get rain they desperately need

« Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 07:35:46 PM by gt1racer »

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 07:40:38 PM »

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 07:54:25 PM »
My predictions:

Landfall at or around Miami, FL (as previously predicted on my Facebook page)

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Hurricane Warning for Southeastern Florida at least by Saturday.

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 08:09:42 PM »
And we have Emily...

DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
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AT 730 PM AST...2330 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM EMILY WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 15.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 62.0 WEST. EMILY IS
MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 17 MPH...28 KM/H.  A TURN TOWARD THE
WEST-NORTHWEST AND A SLIGHT DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED ARE EXPECTED
OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.  ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER OF
EMILY WILL MOVE ACROSS THE NORTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA TONIGHT...AND
APPROACH THE ISLAND OF HISPANIOLA TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 40 MPH...65 KM/H...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS.  GRADUAL STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 70 MILES...110
KM...MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1006 MB...29.71 INCHES
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Doppler Radar from Blacksburg, VA (FCX):
http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/BaseReflectivity/fcx.gif

Radial Velocity:
http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/RadialVelocity/fcx.gif

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 08:11:46 PM »
I don't think we really need to make predictions on the precise location of a United States landfall just yet. We still don't have enough data, and that event is still 5 days out, if not more.

Current forecasts are for Emily to remain weak as organization and interaction with land hinder with its development. The Dominican Republic will definitely see impacts from this storm. I'm waiting on the latest model runs to see what they say.
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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 08:12:49 PM »
I think it'll make it to about Savannah, GA b4 gettin carried off by the trough.
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Doppler Radar from Blacksburg, VA (FCX):
http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/BaseReflectivity/fcx.gif

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 08:16:39 PM »
Finally something for me to track! :happy: I appear to be in Emily's cone..

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 08:17:33 PM »
I don't think we really need to make predictions on the precise location of a United States landfall just yet. We still don't have enough data, and that event is still 5 days out, if not more.

Current forecasts are for Emily to remain weak as organization and interaction with land hinder with its development. The Dominican Republic will definitely see impacts from this storm. I'm waiting on the latest model runs to see what they say.

Excuse me for looking at the NHC forecast and finding out the city in the middle of the cone...at this time, that looks like the most reasonable location, and people need as much notice as possible. I'm pretty sure that local Miami meteorologists aren't brushing this off... :whistling:
« Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 08:20:46 PM by Trevor Birchett »

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 08:21:57 PM »
AVNO takes Emily pretty much right past my living room window.

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 08:22:33 PM »
I don't think we really need to make predictions on the precise location of a United States landfall just yet. We still don't have enough data, and that event is still 5 days out, if not more.

Current forecasts are for Emily to remain weak as organization and interaction with land hinder with its development. The Dominican Republic will definitely see impacts from this storm. I'm waiting on the latest model runs to see what they say.

Excuse me for looking at the NHC forecast and finding out the city in the middle of the cone... :whistling:
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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 08:25:02 PM »
:facepalm:

That's all I can say...like previously stated, I'm sure that Miami meteorologists are warning their viewers, because they know that if it doesn't impact them, it will come close. And no, I am not a hypercaster. If there is a large hook echo ~30 miles away and moving towards a large city, are you going to wait until it is right up on them to let them know of the impending danger? I also wasn't aware that there was a 'weather rulebook"...
« Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 08:26:55 PM by Trevor Birchett »

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 08:26:38 PM »
I didn't say anything about Miami brushing this system off...they shouldn't. It poses a threat, I'll acknowledge. But I go again to the fact that we don't have enough information, and it's 5 days out. It's too early to tell. Hence the cone of uncertainty.

Forecasts and models can change over 5 days. That's why I'm hesitant to call anything this early. There are still some models that take this thing off shore, so it could still (barely) miss us.

From the National Hurricane Center's Forecast Discussion:
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GIVEN THE
SPREAD IN THE GUIDANCE LATE IN THE PERIOD...THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO
REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE AVERAGE ERROR OF THE OFFICIAL NHC TRACK
FORECAST IS ABOUT 250 MILES AT 5 DAYS.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 08:52:39 PM by plane852 »
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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2011, 08:35:49 PM »
LOL, you guys are so excited over a hurricane that may make US landfall. Is it something to really be that hyped up about?

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Re: Tropical Storm Emily
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2011, 09:04:19 PM »
:facepalm:

That's all I can say...like previously stated, I'm sure that Miami meteorologists are warning their viewers, because they know that if it doesn't impact them, it will come close. And no, I am not a hypercaster. If there is a large hook echo ~30 miles away and moving towards a large city, are you going to wait until it is right up on them to let them know of the impending danger? I also wasn't aware that there was a 'weather rulebook"...

As it's been stated more than once, what was shown on the models today of a Florida hit could easily be wrong. It's possible they have incorrectly projected the location of where the LLC was. If tonight most of the runs were to do a total 180 and go back to a recurve w/ no US landfall what would your forecast be then? If you noticed the model spreads throughout today, there was still a lot of diverging beyond the short range (48 hrs out) which leaves reasonable doubt in the solutions.

One rule of weather forecasting: Never model hug to what each run says, especially when it's still medium to long range. That's a big no no. There are still a lot of things that have to be addressed long before it gets to the SE coast such as, how much will it be disrupted going over DR/Haiti? How strong will it be afterward? Will it be strong/weak enough to be/not be picked up quickly by the trough? Still plenty of questions, but not a whole lot of confident answers. I'm not trying to attack you or anything, I'm just trying to relay some friendly advice. I personally wouldn't make a call like that until at least 2 days at the earliest where there's more confidence in the models.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with mentioning the possibility of a landfall in Flordia or the SE coast, but you should also keep in mind the other plausible possibilities that it could go into the GOM if it stays very weak or it could miss any landfall in the US period and quickly recurves, and even as Patrick mentioned earlier not have an Emily to track at all once it's passed the islands.


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