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Weather Discussion => Hazardous Weather => Hurricane Central => Topic started by: Mr. Rainman on August 12, 2011, 04:58:04 PM
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That invest near Bermuda has now become a tropical depression, and should become Tropical Storm Franklin later tonight or tomorrow. Just another fish storm.
Track
(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT06/refresh/AL0611W5_NL_sm2+gif/205213W5_NL_sm.gif)
Wind Forecast
(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT06/refresh/AL0611T_sm2+gif/205213P_sm.gif)
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Just formed...will update as more information becomes available.
(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/overview_atl/refresh/atl_overview+gif/1313182442.gif)
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Looks like the system will keep going north east... Yet again another fish storm. Maybe some increased surf and heavy rain, but only a threat (barely) to shipping.
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Come on! By 10 seconds! :P I can't delete the topic, but I'm sure that Patrick, Martin, or Tyler will delete it when they stumble across it.
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It's always a race to see who can post the top story first. :P Merging is always an option too.
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I'm in favor of merging. I see no reason why non-irrelevant information should be removed simply because it duplicates another topic.
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Track
(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT06/refresh/AL0611W5_NL_sm2+gif/205213W5_NL_sm.gif)
Wind Forecast
(http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT06/refresh/AL0611T_sm2+gif/205213P_sm.gif)
Images moved. Admins can shut my topic down.
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Admins may delete this topic as they see fit. Topic merged with Trevor's.
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We've merged the topics together here, so no deletions are necessary. This little depression only has a 36-48 hour window to do anything before it returns back to an extratropical state.
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If this gets named, then Franklin will definitely be a wasted name.
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Why do names need to be rationed?! :blink:
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Why do names need to be rationed?! :blink:
Patrick can do a better job of explaining this than I can, and I am probably taking this a little overboard, but I do recall him getting a little upset once that such weak storms, barely a storm at all, even received a name.
EDIT: Here's proof (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/hurricane-central/tropical-storm-cindy/msg157266/#msg157266). This storm will probably go the way of Cindy, if even that.
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Why do names need to be rationed?! :blink:
It is beginning to feel like the NHC is just naming storms just to validate their forecast, but I'm not going to get into a debate over this matter. Ironically, Franklin from 2005 took a similar path OTS, but it formed much further south near the Bahamas.
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Really? I actually like it when we use names fast. How else are we ever supposed to get to the Greek alphabet? Lol.
Franklin isn't much, but we're level pegging with 2008 so far. Fay formed August 15th, if I call correctly. Franklin on the 13th. The way it's looking now, this season is sure gonna be interesting.
We could use some landfalling topical systems in the US--not strong enough to destroy lives, but enough to not let our guard down...not to mention the drought relief they can bring that so much of the south is in dire need of.
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Why do names need to be rationed?! :blink:
It is beginning to feel like the NHC is just naming storms just to validate their forecast, but I'm not going to get into a debate over this matter. Ironically, Franklin from 2005 took a similar path OTS, but it formed much further south near the Bahamas.
I still don't get this! A tropical storm is a tropical storm, period. It meets certain characteristics and guidelines. One of the rules is that it gets a name. The NHC isn't creating tropical cyclones out of whole cloth, and I see no evidence that it's chomping at the bit to use as many names as possible.
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Why do names need to be rationed?! :blink:
It is beginning to feel like the NHC is just naming storms just to validate their forecast, but I'm not going to get into a debate over this matter. Ironically, Franklin from 2005 took a similar path OTS, but it formed much further south near the Bahamas.
I still don't get this! A tropical storm is a tropical storm, period. It meets certain characteristics and guidelines. One of the rules is that it gets a name. The NHC isn't creating tropical cyclones out of whole cloth, and I see no evidence that it's chomping at the bit to use as many names as possible.
What I'm trying to say is I think it was borderline to be more than a TD that's all. There's no reason to take what I said so personally, I wasn't trying to offend you or anyone else that was offended by my statement. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what I think or you think it's the NHC's call.
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Again, I know NHC will be more aggressive with borderline storms due to a policy change from some new people there who do not want to get caught off guard with an unnamed system, which apparently happened years ago. Another forecaster even confirmed this thought with me. There are really only two fair ways to solve this situation: leave everything as it is, or raise the level of naming to just hurricanes only. Since there have been some memorable tropical storms, I don't think anything will change.
Tropical Storm Franklin now has winds of 45 mph, but it probably only has 24 hours or so left to be considered tropical.
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What I'm trying to say is I think it was borderline to be more than a TD that's all. There's no reason to take what I said so personally, I wasn't trying to offend you or anyone else that was offended by my statement. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what I think or you think it's the NHC's call.
39 mph (33 knots) is what it takes for a system to be classified as a tropical storm, and, therefore, receive a name.
Do you think the NHC is fudging wind speeds upwards a little for the sake of giving a storm a name?
Do you think the criteria for a tropical storm should be changed to 45 or even 50 mph?
What is the problem you have with small storms of 40 mph in the middle of the ocean receiving a name? Really, what is the problem?
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What I'm trying to say is I think it was borderline to be more than a TD that's all. There's no reason to take what I said so personally, I wasn't trying to offend you or anyone else that was offended by my statement. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what I think or you think it's the NHC's call.
39 mph (33 knots) is what it takes for a system to be classified as a tropical storm, and, therefore, receive a name.
Do you think the NHC is fudging wind speeds upwards a little for the sake of giving a storm a name?
Do you think the criteria for a tropical storm should be changed to 45 or even 50 mph?
What is the problem you have with small storms of 40 mph in the middle of the ocean receiving a name? Really, what is the problem?
What is the problem of you not knowing when to let minor things like this go and just "agree to disagree"? You got all upset with me and Patrick over this same thing when Cindy came about. I've made my point and you've made yours. I know the criteria for tropical storms so you don't have to make me feel like I'm some kind of an idiot.
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Woah, woah, guys. Settle down already. What's done is done. NHC named the cyclone Franklin and there's nothing any of us can do about it.
Franklin is back down to a 40 mph tropical storm and is streaking off to the ENE. It should become post-tropical in the next 24-36 hours at most, if not sooner.
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Woah, woah, guys. Settle down already. What's done is done. NHC named the cyclone Franklin and there's nothing any of us can do about it.
Franklin is back down to a 40 mph tropical storm and is streaking off to the ENE. It should become post-tropical in the next 24-36 hours at most, if not sooner.
As of the 11pm advisory it is post tropical.