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Other => General Discussion => Topic started by: TampaMillTWC88 on March 21, 2012, 11:35:00 PM
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I would like to know if any of you guys here on TWCT are following the murder of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, and would like to know how outraged and appalled you are. I know I am. Because this was an innocent 17-year-old kid walking down the street, and a bigoted, evil racist like George Zimmerman was on a mission to kill him because he happens to be Black and "look suspicious." This is yet another case of the ugly history and reality of our country, which is racism, along with discrimination and racial profiling. The kid has Skittles and iced tea in his bag for goodness, sakes!!! And how is Zimmerman still free, and still with his gun license?! :nono: The Sanford Police has been callous and heartless in their treatment of this case, and finally, there is at least some movement because the Sanford commission voted no confidence against the police chief.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/21/2706876/sanford-commission-votes-no-confidence.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/21/2706876/sanford-commission-votes-no-confidence.html)
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Disgusting indeed. I'd be speechless if that happened to my kid, but racism is alive and well even to this age. That guy needs life in prison
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I really hope they get Zimmerman for being racist during his call to 911.. that's really not what a neighborhood watchguard is supposed to do :angry:
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There's a somewhat similar case that occurred in Mississippi with a 19yo white male teenager that purposely ran over and killed a black man as a hate crime, but I won't derail this thread with that case.
There is so many problems and controversy circulating around this case it's mind boggling. For one, FL obviously needs to reevaluate it's "Stand Your Ground" law because there are serious loopholes in it if it's allowing Zimmerman to still be free right now. He shouldn't be protected under that law if Trayvon himself wasn't armed with any firearm or weapon so Zimmerman can't claim self defense for shooting him. The way this law is being treated it's basically say, "Hey, you got a gun and you don't like someone go shoot em, it's cool it'll only be self defense right?" What's starling is the homicide rate jumped 3x what it was prior to the law, I don't see how that doesn't raise eyebrows. :huh:
Hopefully Zimmerman will be rotting in prison very soon he needs to suffer for what he did. It's very sickening to keep hearing and seeing about things like this happening. :(
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This is yet another case of the ugly history and reality of our country, which is racism, along with discrimination and racial profiling.
Yah, that's all this country has been good for. :rolleyes:
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All I can say for now is that Florida's "stand your ground" law does not apply if you use a force stronger than what the person you are using self defense on is armed with :no: or at least its supposed to.. :hammer:
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Now the police chief Bill Lee is "temporarily stepping down", like if he is doing anyone a favor. :hammer: He needs to be permanently removed!!!
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That's just :censored: awful that a racist man killed an innocent African-American kid for "self defense." People like him need to be sent to the chair, or better yet, shot and killed by another person just to see how they like it! :hammer:
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I'm not gonna go all out and call Zimmerman racist, for I don't know his history.
However, I do recall reading that he was acting like a wannabe cop when he was on Neighborhood Watch patrol and has gotten complaints from his neighbors about his tactics.
The cops fumbled this case by now checking to see if Trayvon used his phone that night and just going by Zimmerman's word only. Now that we know that, they have egg on their face. I'm glad the state and the feds are getting involved. I expect the grand jury to indict Zimmerman on second degree murder or manslaughter.
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I'm not gonna go all out and call Zimmerman racist, for I don't know his history.
However, I do recall reading that he was acting like a wannabe cop when he was on Neighborhood Watch patrol and has gotten complaints from his neighbors about his tactics.
The cops fumbled this case by now checking to see if Trayvon used his phone that night and just going by Zimmerman's word only. Now that we know that, they have egg on their face. I'm glad the state and the feds are getting involved. I expect the grand jury to indict Zimmerman on second degree murder or manslaughter.
It is well documented that Zimmerman has made past calls to 911 concerning Black men, so yes, he is racist. Also he said "bleeping coon" in the tape about Trayvon. The irony in all this, is that according to people like Geraldo Rivera, young Black and Latino men shouldn't walk around wearing hoodies, or else they would look threatening. But a middle-aged White coach like Bill Belichick wears it, and it is no big deal, and he is affectionately called "the Hoodie." As a young Black man, I already knew that there were a different set of rules once you step foot out of the door, even before the murder of Trayvon. I knew that I could not wear certain things, say certain things, do certain things, or go certain places. That is at the core of all this. The whole stereotype of Black men being dangerous and threatening. That mentality was embedded in Zimmerman's thinking.
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I knew there had to be more to the story. Pointing out once again that it's important to get all the facts in BEFORE you judge. :hammer:
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012 (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012)
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What utter bs that witness is. IMO, you never know if it was someone hired by Zimmerman to testify to Sanford Police in his favor.. after all, Zimmerman is a free man for now. :rolleyes:
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I knew there had to be more to the story. Pointing out once again that it's important to get all the facts in BEFORE you judge. :hammer:
[url]http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012[/url] ([url]http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012[/url])
Sure, it's important to listen to all sides of the story, but I think this is a little too "convenient" if you ask me.
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Everyone, please tone it down a little. I think all of you are jumping to conclusions way too soon. I don't have any opinion on this case and will not form one until the entire legal process is over.
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What utter bs that witness is. IMO, you never know if it was someone hired by Zimmerman to testify to Sanford Police in his favor.. after all, Zimmerman is a free man for now. :rolleyes:
Yeah, that is a complete lie; he was probably paid to say that. <_<
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Wow. If I'm ever convicted of a crime, I hope you're not on my jury. Obviously I'd be guilty until proven innocent. Is this America or Iran? :club:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-attorney-friend-speak-trayvon-martin-incident/story?id=15999256 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-attorney-friend-speak-trayvon-martin-incident/story?id=15999256)
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Wow. If I'm ever convicted of a crime, I hope you're not on my jury. Obviously I'd be guilty until proven innocent. Is this America or Iran? :club:
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-attorney-friend-speak-trayvon-martin-incident/story?id=15999256[/url] ([url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-attorney-friend-speak-trayvon-martin-incident/story?id=15999256[/url])
I find it interesting and sad, that some people feel comfortable in justifying murder of an innocent, unarmed young man. We all know that if the tables were turned, none of this would even be happening. Look at this article, and you can take it however you want to. But I find it interesting that even the person who signed this law does not believe it applies in this case.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-24/news/os-trayvon-martin-jeb-bush-stand-your-ground-20120324_1_jeb-bush-ground-neighborhood-watch-volunteer (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-24/news/os-trayvon-martin-jeb-bush-stand-your-ground-20120324_1_jeb-bush-ground-neighborhood-watch-volunteer)
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TampaMillTWC88 and twcclassics, are you two ever going to agree on anything? If not, then you both need to stop going at each other. I'm tired of both of you provoking an endless debate at each other in multiple controversial issues. This topic is locked until Martin or someone can assure me that the attacking against each other will cease.