The State of the Union

[twcclassics]

I was wondering why a lot of his speech sounded familiar...

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/alvin-felzenberg/2011/01/26/obamas-state-of-the-union-was-tantamount-to-plagiarism

[WeatherWitness]

I was wondering why a lot of his speech sounded familiar...

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/alvin-felzenberg/2011/01/26/obamas-state-of-the-union-was-tantamount-to-plagiarism

So how come the President can plagarize without getting in big trouble, but we can't...what's going on here?

[TampaMillTWC88]

If any of you haven't paid attention, speeches commonly take quotes or ideas from speeches of the past. So if he took a few parts from speeches to emphasize his points so friggin what.  This is a stupid and pointless article.  91% approved of his speech according to the polls. Obviously, some of the 9 percent of people who didn't like it are on this board. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20029581-503544.html

[twcclassics]

There's a big difference between using a few quotes here and there, and patching speeches together; making it sound like your own. Of course most liked it. It was all warm and fuzzy. He said a lot of things that sounded good. The 9% probably saw it more like an episode of Family Guy.

Family Guy - Undecided Voters

[TWCToday]

There's a big difference between using a few quotes here and there, and patching speeches together; making it sound like your own. Of course most liked it. It was all warm and fuzzy. He said a lot of things that sounded good. The 9% probably saw it more like an episode of Family Guy.

Family Guy - Undecided Voters

Loved that episode

[Mr. Rainman]

*bump* Don't want to make another thread, so I'll just post here. For those of you interested, President Obama will be giving his potentially last State of the Union address tonight. Although I'm sure he will put forth some valid plans, I'd watch to see how much he tries and campaigns for his re-election. The speech begins at 9 PM ET.

[Mr. Rainman]

Wow, that was an...interesting proposal. From CNN:

President Obama: "I call on every state to require that all students stay in high school until they graduate or turn 18."

[twcclassics]

President Obama: "I call on every state to require that all students stay in high school until they graduate or turn 18."

And just how do you propose to do that, Mr. President? Round them up? All in all, I thought it was a decent speech for Obama. He waited almost 40 minutes before he started misleading the public. When he makes all his grand promises, I can't help but hearing "which is why I'm proposing that the rich pay a little bit more, so that everyone can have a pony" or "which is why I want to close all oil companies and run our cars on skittles!"

[TWCCraig]

If any of you haven't paid attention, speeches commonly take quotes or ideas from speeches of the past. So if he took a few parts from speeches to emphasize his points so friggin what.  This is a stupid and pointless article.  91% approved of his speech according to the polls. Obviously, some of the 9 percent of people who didn't like it are on this board. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20029581-503544.html

Thank You! I don't want to get into any political debate here but most of the people on here don't like Obama/his speech for reasons in which I don't know. That's definitely true.

[toxictwister00]

President Obama: "I call on every state to require that all students stay in high school until they graduate or turn 18."

And just how do you propose to do that, Mr. President? Round them up? All in all, I thought it was a decent speech for Obama. He waited almost 40 minutes before he started misleading the public. When he makes all his grand promises, I can't help but hearing "which is why I'm proposing that the rich pay a little bit more, so that everyone can have a pony" or "which is why I want to close all oil companies and run our cars on skittles!"

I don't understand what is the strong resistance to wanting to research into using cleaner energy sources. Oil is not a renewable energy source no matter how many other places we choose to get them from, so once it's gone what are we gonna do then? I'm not saying we have to dive into the deep end on cleaner energy sources, but we should be gearing ourselves into that direction instead of relying on one resource to get us by.

[TampaMillTWC88]

If any of you haven't paid attention, speeches commonly take quotes or ideas from speeches of the past. So if he took a few parts from speeches to emphasize his points so friggin what.  This is a stupid and pointless article.  91% approved of his speech according to the polls. Obviously, some of the 9 percent of people who didn't like it are on this board. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20029581-503544.html

Thank You! I don't want to get into any political debate here but most of the people on here don't like Obama/his speech for reasons in which I don't know. That's definitely true.

Thanks for using my quote from last year.  But it still stands true today. President Obama had an outstanding SOTU speech. One of the most striking things that he said was that the big banks and corporations were not going to recieve the bailouts, handouts, and copouts that they received before.

[Localonthe8s]

Agreed it's always oil this oil that and I'm tired of it. We need to discover new resources to offset our worry on oil. Whatever happened to ethanol or electrically operates cars? Aren't they supposed to be alternatives to oil using automobiles or are those cars just failed business models?

[Mr. Rainman]

I agreed with most of what Obama said. He did a good job of scolding Congress (both the Dems and Republicans looked like they were sitting on a tack when he said that). I support his high school idea, and I agree that we need to do anything we can to build our economy right here on home ground.

He also had a few good traditionally Republican ideas as well, like cutting back on government regulation (although he kinda blew it by also wanting a few new government agencies for investigating financial and trade fraud).

I didn't watch the Indiana Governor's response for the GOP, or Herman Cain's response for the Tea Party, so I'll have to watch those later.

[twcclassics]

I don't understand what is the strong resistance to wanting to research into using cleaner energy sources. Oil is not a renewable energy source no matter how many other places we choose to get them from, so once it's gone what are we gonna do then? I'm not saying we have to dive into the deep end on cleaner energy sources, but we should be gearing ourselves into that direction instead of relying on one resource to get us by.

Couple problems with that. One, there is currently no viable alternative energy source. While the government shouldn't be picking winners and losers, it should at least only be funding things that are proven to work. I think everyone agrees that we need to find alternative energy sources. However, some (like myself) don't think the tax payers should be on the hook for it.

He also had a few good traditionally Republican ideas as well, like cutting back on government regulation (although he kinda blew it by also wanting a few new government agencies for investigating financial and trade fraud).

I listened to the whole speech and didn't hear one non-liberal idea. On this point, he failed to mention that they've added 75,000 new regulations.

Thanks for using my quote from last year.  But it still stands true today. President Obama had an outstanding SOTU speech. One of the most striking things that he said was that the big banks and corporations were not going to recieve the bailouts, handouts, and copouts that they received before.

Probably because he just rewrites the same speech each year.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/havent-we-heard_618462.html

As for banks and corporations no longer receiving bailouts...I'll believe it when I see it.

There were only two things that really ticked me off about the speech. One, he wants more power. More power!? Are you kidding me!? He's inches away from being a dictator and he wants more power? Two, he still doesn't understand (or doesn't want the American people to understand) that Warren Buffett and his secretary do NOT pay the same tax! She pays income, he primarily pays capital gains. Capital gains is lower than income because it's not guaranteed income. You're taking a risk. You could make a lot of money, but you could also lose it. But most importantly, you invest with income, which you have...wait for it....ALREADY BEEN TAXED ON!!!!!

[Pop Light Brown]

I felt Obama's speech was pretty good myself.

I loved how he looked at Congress and told them to stop bickering and work as a team like the military so things can get moving for OUR benefit. I wished he'd have said that two years ago. The man is willing to work with the GOP, but basically been telling him "F-ck you" and sending him bills they know he will veto so they can say he hasn't done anything. Hell, Sen. McConnell flat out said he wants Obama out in 2012 and will do what he can to do so.

I'm all for getting alternative energy sources off and running. It will take time to get them viable enough to use. Why wait until the oil runs out before we start doing anything? That's @ss-backwards.

The only proposal I didn't like is the feds giving more money to keep teachers from being laid off. Some school districts are losing students while other districts are gaining students. Cut some teachers from those districts that are losing students and allow them to get on in districts that are gaining students.