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Title: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: TWCJim on January 20, 2012, 02:20:26 PM
According to an email I got, it appears Congress has dropped SOPA and PIPA, for now. We won!  :dance:
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: twcclassics on January 20, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
According to an email I got, it appears Congress has dropped SOPA and PIPA, for now. We won!  :dance:
No we didn't. You missed two keywords in your own post, "for now." What they'll likely do is hold off until most have forgotten about it. Then they'll vote on it on a Friday or holiday, so it'll miss the news. Happens more often than you think.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: TWCJim on January 20, 2012, 03:58:22 PM
According to an email I got, it appears Congress has dropped SOPA and PIPA, for now. We won!  :dance:
No we didn't. You missed two keywords in your own post, "for now." What they'll likely do is hold off until most have forgotten about it. Then they'll vote on it on a Friday or holiday, so it'll miss the news. Happens more often than you think.

You're right. I probably shouldn't celebrate just yet then  :whistling:
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: Mike M on January 20, 2012, 05:03:48 PM
No we didn't. You missed two keywords in your own post, "for now." What they'll likely do is hold off until most have forgotten about it. Then they'll vote on it on a Friday or holiday, so it'll miss the news. Happens more often than you think.
Yes. Remember, the government doesn't care what we think anymore.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: gt1racerlHDl on January 20, 2012, 05:35:59 PM
SOPA and PIPA dropped (http://tech.pnosker.com/2012/01/20/sopa-and-pipa-dropped-by-congress-in-wake-of-largest-online-protest-in-history/) by Congress in wake of largest online protest in history

It's just sickening how Congress loves to change something that isn't even broken.

Here was the list (http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/) of who supported and opposed the bill

62 Support and co-sponsors to 187 Opponents and "Leaning No"
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: TWCToday on January 20, 2012, 09:02:26 PM
I guess it really doesn't matter anymore. Apparently federal agents can take down a massive internet site in another country and arrest everyone connected to it on shady grounds at whim. This case with Megaupload is astounding.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: curtjr4 on January 21, 2012, 03:46:43 PM
I guess it really doesn't matter anymore. Apparently federal agents can take down a massive internet site in another country and arrest everyone connected to it on shady grounds at whim. This case with Megaupload is astounding.
And that shows that this bill isn't even needed. If they can do it, why shove legislation down our throats that will cause more damage, even though we already can take down the websites?
Yes. Remember, the government doesn't care what we think anymore.
I hate our government more than anything. That's all I will even say. I hate, hate, HATE it.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: TWCJim on January 21, 2012, 04:00:22 PM
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I hate our government more than anything. That's all I will even say. I hate, hate, HATE it.

Amen to that!  :worship:
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: Mr. Rainman on January 21, 2012, 04:32:31 PM
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I hate our government more than anything. That's all I will even say. I hate, hate, HATE it.

Amen to that!  :worship:

Be thankful that your government at least allows you to choose who you want to run it.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: twcclassics on January 21, 2012, 04:59:46 PM
Despite our government's serious flaws, there's no country I'd rather live in. And as for it's flaws...we've got no one to blame but ourselves. We're the one's that elect these people. We've been "asleep" for a pretty long time. And the amount of information the average voter still doesn't know about our government is pretty scary. Many don't even know who the candidates are. How can you vote if you don't know their names, let alone their positions!? :censored:
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: Mike M on January 21, 2012, 05:05:22 PM
Despite our government's serious flaws, there's no country I'd rather live in. And as for it's flaws...we've got no one to blame but ourselves. We're the one's that elect these people. We've been "asleep" for a pretty long time. And the amount of information the average voter still doesn't know about our government is pretty scary. Many don't even know who the candidates are. How can you vote if you don't know their names, let alone their positions!? :censored:
Simple: People don't pay attention to their plans and their history. All they care is that it's on their political party. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: curtjr4 on January 21, 2012, 05:18:49 PM
Despite our government's serious flaws, there's no country I'd rather live in. And as for it's flaws...we've got no one to blame but ourselves. We're the one's that elect these people. We've been "asleep" for a pretty long time. And the amount of information the average voter still doesn't know about our government is pretty scary. Many don't even know who the candidates are. How can you vote if you don't know their names, let alone their positions!? :censored:
Simple: People don't pay attention to their plans and their history. All they care is that it's on their political party. :rolleyes:
If only we listened to George Washington when he said not to make political parties :biggrin:

In the current state of Washington, I completely hate this country. Sure... it's better than many, but they aren't even representing the majority of their citizens anymore (in my view, that is). It's all about their fat paychecks... not what matters for this country.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: Bryan on January 21, 2012, 09:00:29 PM
Despite our government's serious flaws, there's no country I'd rather live in. And as for it's flaws...we've got no one to blame but ourselves. We're the one's that elect these people. We've been "asleep" for a pretty long time. And the amount of information the average voter still doesn't know about our government is pretty scary. Many don't even know who the candidates are. How can you vote if you don't know their names, let alone their positions!? :censored:
Simple: People don't pay attention to their plans and their history. All they care is that it's on their political party. :rolleyes:
If only we listened to George Washington when he said not to make political parties :biggrin:

In the current state of Washington, I completely hate this country. Sure... it's better than many, but they aren't even representing the majority of their citizens anymore (in my view, that is). It's all about their fat paychecks... not what matters for this country.
I agree.  I've said it for years.  Politicians do not care about you.  Each one has their own agenda.  No matter who's elected. :angry:
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: Mr. Rainman on January 21, 2012, 09:20:28 PM
It's sad how badly our government is being run right now. I'm personally sick of my particular congressman, and I'm not thrilled with the new Republican nominees either. It's up to the voters, and unfortunately, as Matt said, the average voter knows very little about their own congressmen or government.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: Austin M. on January 21, 2012, 09:55:53 PM
Saw a graphic, perhaps true and perhaps not, but it said that the presidents from Washington to Bush gathered 3.2 billion $$$'s in debt. Obama collected 3.6 billion. Sad.


I am glad SOPA is dead. The rep that introduced the bill is "revising" it. Let us see how much bull :censored:  comes from it this time.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: Mike M on January 22, 2012, 12:55:07 AM
If only we listened to George Washington when he said not to make political parties :biggrin:

In the current state of Washington, I completely hate this country. Sure... it's better than many, but they aren't even representing the majority of their citizens anymore (in my view, that is). It's all about their fat paychecks... not what matters for this country.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Honestly, if people don't understand politics and candidates in their entirety, then they should not be allowed to vote. :no:
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: jtmal0723 on January 22, 2012, 02:12:42 AM
If only we listened to George Washington when he said not to make political parties :biggrin:

In the current state of Washington, I completely hate this country. Sure... it's better than many, but they aren't even representing the majority of their citizens anymore (in my view, that is). It's all about their fat paychecks... not what matters for this country.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Honestly, if people don't understand politics and candidates in their entirety, then they should not be allowed to vote. :no:
I understand politics to a point, however, if I don't know either candidate on a specific office position, I will leave that selection blank when I go to vote. I don't blindly vote.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: twcclassics on January 22, 2012, 02:29:11 PM
People don't pay attention to their plans and their history. All they care is that it's on their political party. :rolleyes:
Agreed. I listen to a lot of talk radio, and in turn, hear from voters of my party. It's really frustrating to hear them endorse Newt Gingrich. Out of all the candidates, Newt is the closest to Obama as far as policies go. Which begs the question, if it's not Obama's policies you're against, then what is it? Even more frustrating is when his supporters cheered him on when he refused to answer questions about one of his affairs. I thought we were the party of morals? :hmm:

It's sad how badly our government is being run right now. I'm personally sick of my particular congressman, and I'm not thrilled with the new Republican nominees either. It's up to the voters, and unfortunately, as Matt said, the average voter knows very little about their own congressmen or government.
And it's easier now more than ever to keep up with your congressmen and senators. Many have an email newsletter. You can also sign up at Congress.org to get updates on legislation, and how your congressmen and senators voted. I'm not so crazy about my congressman either. He's okay, but could be better. My Democrat senator is retiring (thank God - he was one of the deciding votes on Obamacare) and my Republican one is awesome.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: toxictwister00 on January 22, 2012, 04:41:47 PM
People don't pay attention to their plans and their history. All they care is that it's on their political party. :rolleyes:
Agreed. I listen to a lot of talk radio, and in turn, hear from voters of my party. It's really frustrating to hear them endorse Newt Gingrich. Out of all the candidates, Newt is the closest to Obama as far as policies go. Which begs the question, if it's not Obama's policies you're against, then what is it? Even more frustrating is when his supporters cheered him on when he refused to answer questions about one of his affairs. I thought we were the party of morals? :hmm:

It's sad how badly our government is being run right now. I'm personally sick of my particular congressman, and I'm not thrilled with the new Republican nominees either. It's up to the voters, and unfortunately, as Matt said, the average voter knows very little about their own congressmen or government.
And it's easier now more than ever to keep up with your congressmen and senators. Many have an email newsletter. You can also sign up at Congress.org to get updates on legislation, and how your congressmen and senators voted. I'm not so crazy about my congressman either. He's okay, but could be better. My Democrat senator is retiring (thank God - he was one of the deciding votes on Obamacare) and my Republican one is awesome.

His 15 minutes of fame will end soon, I think he'll be next to wave the white flag.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: curtjr4 on January 22, 2012, 05:56:59 PM
I am glad SOPA is dead. The rep that introduced the bill is "revising" it. Let us see how much bull :censored:  comes from it this time.
SOPA and PIPA aren't dead. Sure, it's tabled for now... but like what Matt said, they most likely will pass them on a Friday or on a holiday.
Title: Re: Congress drops SOPA and PIPA (for now)
Post by: Mike M on January 23, 2012, 12:18:27 AM
I understand politics to a point, however, if I don't know either candidate on a specific office position, I will leave that selection blank when I go to vote. I don't blindly vote.
Which is why I have no intention on voting.