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Title: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 06:23:08 PM
This is where we can post/share all our aviation/airline related stories.

I hope I'm not breaking any rules  :unsure:
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 06:23:49 PM
So this is the thread you meant. Check or read the whole rules to see.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 06:24:12 PM
Yes. :yes:

Anyone flew Delta airlines? Good service?
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 06:24:56 PM
I rode on Continental, Northwest and Southwest, but i hope i go to Delta.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 06:25:46 PM
I get scared riding in airplanes because i get dizzy and my ears pops up whenever i fly
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 06:26:35 PM
Happened to me lots of times. The only thing i don't like is Jet Lag. It tires me. I never get used to that.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 06:27:00 PM
I never get jet lag :D
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 06:27:31 PM
You're lucky :sunglasses: I get it alot.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Gil on March 07, 2008, 06:30:45 PM
I get MAJOR anxiety attack on airplanes...
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 06:31:39 PM
Is it vertigo? :blink: I never had Vertigo
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 06:31:40 PM
I have to take Prozac after landing because i get the "jitters"
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 06:32:57 PM
Not me. I have none of those "airline medicals". But how about the entertainment?
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Gil on March 07, 2008, 06:33:10 PM
I freak out right before takeoff, usually.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 06:34:58 PM
ah, How about the in-flight entertainment systems?
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 06:51:14 PM
ah, How about the in-flight entertainment systems?
They always break down. <_<
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
That's the big sucker. They played Harry Potter Millions of times over and over once.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 07, 2008, 06:55:56 PM
On frontier airlines, I got to listen to narrationless music on TWC.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 06:56:39 PM
On frontier airlines, I got to listen to narrationless music on TWC.
Oh that's right, they have the DirecTV service?
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 06:57:32 PM
Cool. I tought Frontier was low-cost.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on March 07, 2008, 07:02:18 PM
On frontier airlines, I got to listen to narrationless music on TWC.
Oh that's right, they have the DirecTV service?
Yep. :yes:
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 07:02:57 PM
jetblue has tv service too
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 07:03:11 PM
I wonder why the "Big Six" is not doing well in there departure times.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 07:03:26 PM
what's the big six?
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 07:05:16 PM
Delta
Northwest (Well, It's doing better than the others)
US Airways
American Airlines
United
Continental (again, doing better than the other four)
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 07:05:47 PM
COntinental is the only airline that serves free meals in domestic coach
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 07:06:31 PM
You mean Economy?
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 07:08:55 PM
Yes, coach class
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 07:10:48 PM
Lots of Catchy names for that.

I heard that Korean Air confirmed there order with the a-380
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 07:55:49 PM
Korean Air is to start service to Sao Paulo, Johannesburg and Munich this summer too!
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 07, 2008, 07:56:34 PM
That's cool. :happy:


But This is an update:

Does any1 have memberships to the lounge?
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 08, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
WHat lounge? First class?
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 08, 2008, 04:46:02 PM
The member lounge in the airports.

Any1? If not, First Class?
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 08, 2008, 04:57:33 PM
I never rode in first class. Its only for people who are filthy stinkin rich
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 08, 2008, 04:59:13 PM
 :rofl2: I'm in a funny bunny mood right now. I never rode 1st class too.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Gil on March 08, 2008, 05:30:45 PM
I would love to fly first class. :yes:
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 08, 2008, 09:36:31 PM
Yeah. I need leg room!
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 03, 2008, 04:06:30 PM
ATA Airlined ceases all operations.  :blink:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/industries/transportation/article/ata-airlines-shuts-filing-bankruptcy-protection_546847_8.html

ATA Airlines Shuts Down After Filing for Bankruptcy Protection

ATA Airlines, the Indianapolis-based low-cost air carrier, shut down operations early Thursday after filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.


The company, which was founded in 1973, said it entered bankruptcy after losing a contract in its military-charter business. It was the second bankruptcy filing in the company's history, and came without warning to the hundreds of passengers scheduled to fly ATA Thursday.

Many of these travelers won't be able to get refunds for their tickets. ATA said on its website early Thursday that those who paid by credit card would have to contact their credit companies to get refunds, but those who paid cash or check would have to apply as creditors to ATA with the bankruptcy court in Indiana.

ATA operated hubs at Chicago Midway, Honolulu International Airport and Oakland International Airport.

It is the second airline to file for Chapter 11 in as many weeks. Last week, Aloha Air also shut down.

ATA's bankruptcy filing comes at a difficult time for air travelers. Just yesterday, United Airlines canceled several flights over safety issues with its Boeing 777 aircraft. That came after thousands of passengers saw their flights canceled nationwide last week as airlines like American and Delta did new safety checks.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on April 03, 2008, 05:05:18 PM
Man! Another Airline closed down. I hope Frontier or Sun Country will not be in the list.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 03, 2008, 05:16:16 PM
Man! Another Airline closed down. I hope Frontier or Sun Country will not be in the list.
Aloha Airlines is gone as well.

Sun Country may go down too if fuel prices keep rising <_<
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on April 03, 2008, 06:12:22 PM
I know the Aloha Airlines story already.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 03, 2008, 06:14:51 PM
Aloah? ATA? Sun Country? I've never even heard of these airlines. No wonder why they're going bankrupt...
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 03, 2008, 06:19:15 PM
Aloah? ATA? Sun Country? I've never even heard of these airlines. No wonder why they're going bankrupt...
They're smaller, regional airlines. Not huge like Delta or United.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on April 03, 2008, 06:38:16 PM
I heard Hawaiian Airlines Is Doing a Fine Job than the bigger airlines.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 03, 2008, 06:39:12 PM
I heard Hawaiian Airlines Is Doing a Fine Job than the bigger airlines.
I'm surprised. Plus they only fly to West Coast cities.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on April 03, 2008, 06:44:46 PM
They're percentage in making flights in less than 15mins is %93.6 Percent
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 10, 2008, 03:45:39 PM
The entire MD80 Fleet of American Airlines was grounded because of faulty wiring issues that affects the landing gear. Numerous delays, headaches, frustration, u name it...

http://travel.latimes.com/articles/la-trw-american11apr11

[size="5"]American Airlines grounds 933 more flights[/size]
Midway Airlines, meanwhile, cancels 14 of its departures to inspect MD-80 wiring.

By Martin Zimmerman and Andrea Chang, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
April 10, 2008



American Airlines cancels 1,000 more flights for inspections
Travelers faced another round of airport turmoil today as American Airlines scrubbed 933 more flights so it could continue inspecting and repairing wiring on its MD-80 aircraft. It now appears it could be Sunday before American's flight schedule returns to normal.

In addition, Milwaukee, Wis.-based Midway Airlines joined the ranks of carriers canceling flights because of tougher federal oversight of aircraft maintenance. Midway said it scrapped 14 of its 290 daily departures to inspect the wiring on its MD-80s.

American, the world's biggest airline, has canceled about 2,500 flights since Tuesday, disrupting travel plans for more than 150,000 people and creating chaotic conditions at some of the nation's busiest airports. American normally operates about 2,300 flights a day.

American has returned 101 of its 300 MD-80s to service. But completing work on the remaining aircraft could stretch into Saturday morning, forcing cancellation of flights Friday and Saturday.

"Tomorrow will be much better than today, and Saturday will be much better than tomorrow and Sunday will hopefully be a normal day," American spokesman Tim Wagner said, although he noted that "it is a fluid situation."

That was little consolation for passengers stranded today at Los Angeles International Airport, where American canceled 15 of its 92 scheduled departures. That was down from 25 cancellations Wednesday, and the scene in Terminal 4 was noticeably calmer as 50 or so travelers waited in line for help. But there was still some bitterness toward American.

Andrew Cerber flew into LAX this morning from Australia with his wife, Kathy, only to find that their connecting flight to Las Vegas had been scrubbed.

"That is just really poor management; this is the last for me for American," said Cerber, 42. "If they had a customer-first mind-set they should've been looking at the planes already. That should be the first priority."

James Regester, 28, a medical equipment salesman from Marina del Rey, was trying to get to San Francisco for a noon business meeting, but his flight was scrapped.

"If it benefits our safety, I'd rather stand in line and wait than skid off the runway," he said. "However, I think it's a retroactive approach versus a proactive approach."

American also canceled a small number of flights today at airports in Burbank, Ontario and San Diego.

American is scrambling to re-book passengers on other flights, including those of its competitors. The airline said passengers booked on canceled flights can request refunds or credits for future travel and that travelers with reservations through Friday can rebook without charge. The airline is also paying food and lodging costs for travelers stranded overnight.

The customer service expenses, coupled with the costs of inspecting and repairing the aircraft, are expected to cost American millions of dollars. The carrier acknowledged that the costs would be "very significant," but didn't provide figures.

The latest round of cancellations followed American's decision to ground all 300 of its MD-80 aircraft, which make up almost half of the airline's fleet. The aircraft, used mostly on short- and medium-haul flights, are the same planes that were grounded last month for wiring inspections.

American Airlines executives said Wednesday the planes had to be re-inspected after spot checks by the Federal Aviation Administration found that adjustments made to wiring bundles near the planes' landing gear had not been made in strict compliance with FAA rules.

Other carriers have had to ground planes and cancel flights because of tougher FAA oversight -- sparked by revelations of inspection problems at Southwest Airlines that could result in a $10.2-million fine against the carrier.

In March, Southwest canceled dozens of flights while aircraft were inspected, and Delta Air Lines had to cancel flights last month while it inspected its MD-80-series jets. Alaska Airlines canceled at least 25 flights Wednesday after it grounded its MD-80s for inspection.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on April 10, 2008, 05:39:26 PM
The Airline Economy is not doing well right now.  As for the MD-80 I'm not sure  if they're rly safe since alot of them crashed the past years.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 10, 2008, 05:41:59 PM
The MD 80 is ANCIENT. Get rid of the friggin fleet already! They're accident prone and have been in service for over 30 years.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on April 10, 2008, 06:01:16 PM
Yeah, How about the DC-9? They're doing a somewhat good job.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on April 10, 2008, 06:04:59 PM
Yeah, How about the DC-9? They're doing a somewhat good job.
Aren't teh DC9s retired? Cuz on Northwest uses them.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on April 10, 2008, 06:09:34 PM
Aerocalifornia still uses them.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 11, 2008, 11:59:33 AM
Worst airline ever:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25083833/
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on June 19, 2008, 10:16:07 PM
Worst airline ever:
[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25083833/[/url]

United Airlines? I don't get why
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 19, 2008, 10:17:52 PM
I think US Airways is the worst. Terrible customer service, frequent lost luggage issues, poor inflight service and lengthy delays <_<
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 19, 2008, 10:22:33 PM
Anyone ever took British Airways? I took that to London in 2005 and their service was pretty good.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 20, 2008, 12:13:36 PM
Anyone ever took British Airways? I took that to London in 2005 and their service was pretty good.
Yes, very good service but outrageous fares.
Title: Re: Aviation Discussion
Post by: Logica on June 20, 2008, 08:48:16 PM
I heard that Continental Might Merge with United