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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => Everything Else TWC => Topic started by: Mike M on June 11, 2010, 11:45:46 PM
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I'm curious since a lot of people have mixed feelings about TWC, so I figured it would make sense to make a poll here. I would like everyone to vote and to give their own, personal, honest opinion without stating what the average viewer prefers. :)
I rate it a 2, simply because of its lack of music variety, delays on playlist changes, poor production skills, excessive longform, not focusing on weather anymore, and replacing a lot of its good OCMs with poorly talented ones. Just to name a few. That's why I go to mainly weather.com now and nothing else.
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Mike, you stole the words right out of my mouth. I rated it a two as well.
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i give it a 1 because TWC is so unbearable to watch anymore.
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As mentioned in many of the dish network discussions I have seen around the web, they have totally lost focus. In my opinion, there is too much hype, fluff and watching it reminds me of a infomercial or listening to a used car salesman. I also belong to a weather forum relating to my website. When I posted about the dish situation, mostly all the replies were about how they haven't watched TWC for years. To me that states a lot when a bunch of weather enthusiasts do not watch a channel "dedicated" to the weather. :thinking: It also just as amazing that a forum dedicated to TWC fans even has a poll like this and looking at the few results so far, a large amount of their own fans give a poor rating. :thinking:
My son is having a pool party today, so last night I wanted to see how the weather would be today. The flash flood in Arkansas is definitely tragic, but they re-hashed the same footage over and over for the whole time. Nothing new was added. My wife commented about how Alexandra Steele could have such an ear to ear smile on her face while covering this loss of life. I replied that her face is basically stuck that way. Also, The oil disaster in the gulf is not weather related in any shape or form!! Why do they keep showing that same webcam of the leak? Being as i am a dish customer, the local on the 8s does not do me much good so I usually wait for the weekly planner. After watching and waiting for about a hour, TWC did not provide me with any information about the weather for today's party. :censored:
They are definitely not the best weather channel - they are the only one. I am in a good mood this morning so I voted a 2. If I were given another choice for weather, I would take it.
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I give it a 5, being generous, if I wasn't able to overlook the reasons I'm able to explain now I would have easily said a 2 or 3. I'm able to let certain things past over me that I don't like such as WUWA existing (which should be called "Wake Up With Whoever the Hell Shows Up That Day"), the unnecessary number of layoffs and trying to cover it up by hiring newer, cheaper, inexperienced OCMs *coughing* Uhhh Todd Santos, and when they falsely call themselves "The Severe Weather Authority" and they're showing 6 hours of s*** long form programming instead. Overall like I said before I just don't watch or pay attention if I'm bothered by something that I dislike. It's ironic, I wish we could go back 5 years back then when I THOUGHT TWC was really going downhill. Oh boy how I was wrong on that. :hmm: Oh well there's still some things TWC hasn't screwed up yet and that's Hurricane Coverage even during last year's dull season I was surprised they did live coverage from FL during TS Claudette and coverage during Hurricane Ida (Nor'Ida), the bi/tri-monthly playlists don't bother me regardless if they're good or not, that's the way the format was prior to 2000 and some longer than that. I still enjoy seeing certain OCMs whenever I do bother to watch, and the format of them being more newsy doesn't get to me as much anymore except when they purposely drag on and on with the same old info I heard about 4 hours before when I watched then. So to wrap up this lengthy rant, I'm basically on the fence. I don't like the direction TWC is going, but the same can be said for half the networks on television now. It's usually when network execs want to recreate a network that's evolved around one thing for years that the network sinks or starts jumping the shark and unfortunately TWC is a victim of that like any others.
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I also rated a 5. I guess I was too generous, should have rated it a 2. I am just mad since they are so off-base with what they should be doing. An example is this oil spill. Yes, it is a big thing, but it is barely even weather related. It seems like they talk about it every 2 minutes :wall:
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A 2, only because there is some indie jazz on the playlists, if they ever come back to normal again. I hardly watch TWC anymore because I lost interest in the network. And WUWA is something that I never watch during the mornings, I have weather reports from local news stations to cover that. :D
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I rated TWC a 6. I think they have way too much long-form (duh), too much going on at the bottum of the screen, and too much news (I love my news, but love my weather more :P). Like "Drobbins" mentioned, they tend to spend a lot of time showing and repeating the same story over and over again, especially the tragic ones. I agree that people should know about it, but don't let us know unless there is NEW information. Tell people to log onto weather.com to read the story or something.
However, when they do have weather coverage, I believe they do a pretty good job overall. I am always impressed with their severe weather and hurricane coverage, not too mention they have 2 experts who are intelligent in their field. I could care less about what music plays on Local on the 8's..so that had nothing to do with my score.
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A 5 because a) it could be much worse and b) it could be much better.
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I gave it a "1" because I haven't really watched since 2005 or so. My reasons why...
Lack of weather programming
Lack of in-depth coverage (ie. jet stream, the map w/the isobars, etc).
Firing good OCMs and keeping dull ones like Alexandra Steele and Al Roker.
Too many programs that have nothing to do weather (movies and shows).
Lack of music variety during local forecast. I love Ryan Farish, but I think we can try other artists. And by other artists, I don't mean Joe Blow who made a CD in his basement.
Firing artists in favor of graphic/video experts.
Making needless changes and additions to the newer STARs.
Talking about politics (ie. climate change).
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I put 5. While I still like TWC, it's not in the way that initially hooked me. To me now, it's just a place for me to get my weather forecast.
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I put 5. While I still like TWC, it's not in the way that initially hooked me. To me now, it's just a place for me to get my weather forecast.
Same way lol.
As for me, I have 2 opinions.
In the place of a fan, it's a 1. 1 because they don't really show much weather anymore and are focused on the same places over and over, severe weather or not. The music is another thing, too. Rock on TWC, especially with narrations for you XL and IS viewers disrupts the vocals that want to be heard. With ratings, Landmark preempted long form and excessively covered severe weather where it was happening nationwide instead of sending out dual feed to the areas.
In the view of a regular viewer, it's a 5. Many people are more focused on news and could care less about weather. To me, the news part is the way NBC can keep TWC's ratings up. Also, the average viewer has no view of the music, all they want is their local weather 6 times an hour on the 8s.
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1 because of showing the oil thing over and over again, no more monthly playlists, showing news/politics which I avoid looking/watching, which is why I watch LOT8s more than live programing. Still watch live programing sometimes unless it weather related.
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The Weather Channel gets a mid 6-7 in my books. I'm ok with this, no network is perfect in my eyes.
PS: I lol @ the people giving 1s and 2s, but I respect your opinions.
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I was that insane lunatic who gave it a 7
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Local Forecast Music
Local Forecast
STAR Technology
On Air/ LF Graphics
On air personalities (the majority anyway)
Hurricane coverage
Staff I know who are really great people
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Less variety in local forecast music
Loss of OCM personalities
Loss of Landmark as owner
Loss of show personality
WUWA
Longform
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On Air/ LF Graphics
Heh, the same reason I gave it a 2! NBC only cares about the advertising and the money, not how much work they put into their graphics.
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On Air/ LF Graphics
Heh, the same reason I gave it a 2! NBC only cares about the advertising and the money, not how much work they put into their graphics.
Its called a business. Please tell me a company that does care. CNN? Fox News?
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As much as I love TWC, I'll have to give its current state a 3. They're still managing to get the weather information out there accurately and in a timely manner, but at the same time, the programming kinda stinks. Sometimes the quality is poor, I definitely don't like the idea of showing movies on Friday nights (that's what HBO, Showtime, and other movie channels are for LOL), and since the merge with NBC, I don't care too much for them axing a lot of great OCMs. Even the LOT8s has kinda gone downhill because there's barely any original-sounding music!
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I was that insane lunatic who gave it a 7
I did to.
On Air/ LF Graphics
Heh, the same reason I gave it a 2! NBC only cares about the advertising and the money, not how much work they put into their graphics.
Its called a business. Please tell me a company that does care. CNN? Fox News?
Thank you!
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I'm slowly starting to like the way of TWC's production of stuff, although it isn't as good as it was 2 years ago.
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I'm really unsure what I'd rate it. I like some parts of the "new" TWC, like the new LDLs and lower thirds. However, it seems as if they either went low budget or are taking their sweet time on getting everything done. For instance, the only completely relaunched package was Your Weather Today, and honestly, it isn't even good. It looks like they put it together in less than a day, the color scheme is quite ugly and has a more First Outlook-ish feel to it, and the music is definitely not "morningy", not to mention they rarely use the opener theme. I'm guessing that theme, and all the other new themes for the new shows are production music, seeing as the theme PM Edition is using was used before by TWC (25th anniversary).
There is definitely room for improvement - I really hope we see a "full relaunch" in graphic packages within the next year, if there are more things still to come, I hope they're better than what we're seeing now. :/
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I agree with your sentiment about the openers. Most of them are boring and don't appear to have had much go into their development. However, the new Weather Center intro is extremely catchy, and I do like the 25th anniversary music. While basic, I also like the Sunrise intro. Still sticking with a two though.
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TWC did a nice job relaunching in 2003 and 2008, releasing new graphics for all the shows and the maps at the same time. Now they seem to make a change or two once every couple months, just like how it was in 2005-2006. I don't get it. :no:
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I agree with Stephen about the YWT graphics, they are HORRIBLE. Who wants to see all that bloody red for a morning show? Plus the opening music sucks and it may be me, but it seems to change a lot and it's hard for me to even hear it sometimes.
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TWC did a nice job relaunching in 2003 and 2008, releasing new graphics for all the shows and the maps at the same time. Now they seem to make a change or two once every couple months, just like how it was in 2005-2006. I don't get it. :no:
Those were major network changes. There isn't a need for a full relaunch
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I agree with Stephen about the YWT graphics, they are HORRIBLE. Who wants to see all that bloody red for a morning show? Plus the opening music sucks and it may be me, but it seems to change a lot and it's hard for me to even hear it sometimes.
Plus the lower thirds are still yellow, which doesn't match the new graphics at all. Pretty disjointed if you ask me.
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I rated TWC a 1 because it became a shadow of its former self. There is too much fluff and too little focus on the weather. The screen is harder to read because the LDL enlarged recently and I can't read the weather maps well. I can't enjoy Local on the 8's as much; the music is repetitive and I don't like the updated Intellistar. Of all the OCM's that are still on the network, I can say that Betty Davis, Kim Cunningham, Heather Tesch (if I can stand Carl co-anchoring), and possibly Paul Goodloe are the only one that I can listen to attentively. NBC's involvement might have put another nail in the coffin. Too much long-form and too much fluff news add up to an unwatchable network.
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Out of curiosity, who voted a 9?
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Out of curiosity, who voted a 9?
Haha I was curious as well :P
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Out of curiosity, who voted a 9?
Haha I was curious as well :P
I know who, as they have told me, but they have asked to remain anonymous. The reasons they gave have already been mentioned in the thread by others.
I'm the third insane lunatic to rate it a seven as well.
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Out of curiosity, who voted a 9?
Haha I was curious as well :P
I know who, as they have told me, but they have asked to remain anonymous. The reasons they gave have already been mentioned in the thread by others.
I'm the third insane lunatic to rate it a seven as well.
I wouldn't say insane lunatic :P. The reason's that were backed up for the 7's were well backed up.
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3 from me.
The only good things they have left are brand name, perceived quality, and Jim Cantore.
I get my weather from my friendly local meteorologist (who's been doing weather longer than TWC's been on, I think) and my weather alerts from an NWS RSS feed.
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Ok, who's the derranged member who gave it a 10?
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You've got to be crazy if you rank it a 10 on this site. :club: :P
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Ok, who's the derranged member who gave it a 10?
Probably someone that hasn't watched twc for more than 2minutes.
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I give it a 6. There's just too many changes to keep up with. Their music is alright, but I don't like any vocal music while watching the LOT8's. I can't listen to both Allen Jackson and Lady Gaga or whoever at the same time. :P Plus, all the new technology is taking over the network. But, I just like TWC a lot because it is what I grew up watching. If this poll was in 2002 or 2003, I would give it a 10.
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I give it a 6. There's just too many changes to keep up with. Their music is alright, but I don't like any vocal music while watching the LOT8's. I can't listen to both Allen Jackson and Lady Gaga or whoever at the same time. :P Plus, all the new technology is taking over the network. But, I just like TWC a lot because it is what I grew up watching. If this poll was in 2002 or 2003, I would give it a 10.
Ditto