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Title: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 10, 2008, 11:00:51 AM
Read the topic.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 10, 2008, 11:24:51 AM
HD: it's a wonderful thing..

LMAO.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 11:47:35 AM
When will the Intellistar HD debut?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 10, 2008, 12:47:25 PM
No clue ;)

Allow me to clear this up, this is where everything about TWC HD will be discussed, let it be something you like on it, or something you noticed wrong such as video feeds or audio levels.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 12:50:21 PM
Will there be HD radio?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 10, 2008, 12:53:28 PM
Will there be HD radio?
HD radio is already out, and this thread is for TWC HD, not just about anything HD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 10, 2008, 12:53:50 PM
When will the Intellistar HD debut?
In six minutes.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 12:54:11 PM
No I mean TWC HD Radio.

They have a radio program
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 10, 2008, 12:55:16 PM
When will the Intellistar HD debut?
In six minutes.

What do you mean in six minutes? There is no HD Intellistar yet.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 10, 2008, 12:55:22 PM
No I mean TWC HD Radio.

They have a radio program
Oh okay. I know TWC broadcasts their forecasts on select radio stations, but I didn't know they had their own radio program.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 12:55:52 PM
When will the Intellistar HD debut?
In six minutes.
:huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 10, 2008, 12:55:56 PM
What do you mean in six minutes? There is no HD Intellistar yet.
I wasn't serious. it was a joke.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 10, 2008, 12:56:38 PM
What do you mean in six minutes? There is no HD Intellistar yet.
I wasn't serious. it was a joke.

Didn't see an emoticon. Couldn't tell.  ;) :sunglasses:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 12:57:34 PM
Will the weatherstar xl be in hd?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 10, 2008, 12:58:42 PM
Will the weatherstar xl be in hd?
IIRC, the XL doesn't have the capability to show HD graphics, as with any other current WeatherStar.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 01:01:16 PM
So the HD channel will show the intellistar? (in towns with the XL on SD feed)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 10, 2008, 01:01:37 PM
So the HD channel will show the intellistar? (in towns with the XL on SD feed)
No, it will show the HD STAR. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 10, 2008, 01:01:53 PM
So the HD channel will show the intellistar? (in towns with the XL on SD feed)
No, it will show the HD STAR. ;)

Exactly.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 01:02:03 PM
So the HD channel will show the intellistar? (in towns with the XL on SD feed)
No, it will show the HD STAR. ;)
Thats what i meant, intellistar hd
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 10, 2008, 01:03:28 PM
Thats what i meant, intellistar hd
AFAIK, the HD STAR is not going to be called IntelliSTAR HD, from what I've heard.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 01:04:35 PM
what will it be called?

will it be a completely different STAR?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 10, 2008, 01:05:53 PM
what will it be called?

will it be a completely different STAR?

We don't know. And, yes. Think of TWC HD as a completley different weather channel.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 01:06:15 PM
Will the shows becompletely diffrent too?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 10, 2008, 01:07:09 PM
Will the shows becompletely diffrent too?

In the sense that they will be in pure HD, yes.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 10, 2008, 01:08:02 PM
How come HD lower thirds don't cover up the whole width of the screen on an HDTV? They just show on the center of the screen?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 10, 2008, 01:08:27 PM
How come HD lower thirds don't cover up the whole width of the screen on an HDTV? They just show on the center of the screen?

Probably because the lower thirds aren't pure HD yet.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 10, 2008, 01:08:34 PM
Wow. its interesting!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 10, 2008, 02:21:23 PM
It could if they wanted it too. SGI rigs are pretty expandable and advanced.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 10, 2008, 03:09:02 PM
How come HD lower thirds don't cover up the whole width of the screen on an HDTV? They just show on the center of the screen?

On what shows?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 10, 2008, 06:08:27 PM
The new HD star will no be an IntelliSTAR, all the public has name wise is "HD STAR" :)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on February 11, 2008, 10:30:25 PM
For satellite viewers:

When TWC launches in HD, will SD viewers still get the current satellite local forecast, or will everybody have to stick with some new, crappy satellite STAR they're gonna release?

Also, I really, REALLY hope they don't they don't release some new crappy skytracker which looks like this:

(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6547/geskytrackerqh3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

10:1 they do. I really, really hate when OCMs twirl radars around in 260° angles, tilt them back, rotate it to throw your eyes off, etc. I'm looking at you Carl Parker, Kelly Cass, Adam Berg, and other OCMs that love to blind our eyes by flipping skytracker upside down.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 12, 2008, 12:32:23 AM
I have a really fun video from 2006 where Carl Parker takes the Skytracker out to the west coast and turns the radar 90 degrees and flattens it out so that we're looking due east almost parallel to the surface. After that, he takes it straight to the Gulf Coast where he turns it back facing north, reduces the tilt, and overlays all of the fronts/pressure systems/moisture flows. You can see the machine choking to process all of that stuff at once. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 12, 2008, 12:33:47 AM
LOL sounds more like a virtual roller coaster ride.  :lol: :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 12, 2008, 01:41:46 AM
Well, you can't blame him for having fun with that thing. I wish I had a Skytracker unit! :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on February 12, 2008, 06:32:52 AM
btw, does anyone know when skytracker debuted? I first saw it in March 2004 when I started to watch TWC. Cantore was the only guy who would use it at a consistent basis back then.

And how come no one ever presents it using the computer these days? I remember back on Evening Edition where Cantore would take the red skytracker mouse, zoom in with the red zoom box, and even pan around rather than using it up in front of the TV.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 12, 2008, 11:05:01 AM
I donbt like Skytracker. I liked the classic radar maps they used in 2000-2002
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 12, 2008, 07:02:05 PM
btw, does anyone know when skytracker debuted? I first saw it in March 2004 when I started to watch TWC. Cantore was the only guy who would use it at a consistent basis back then.

And how come no one ever presents it using the computer these days? I remember back on Evening Edition where Cantore would take the red skytracker mouse, zoom in with the red zoom box, and even pan around rather than using it up in front of the TV.

I recently posted a video on this site featuring Jim Cantore using Skytracker in November 2003. I'm guessing Skytracker might have debuted with the Sept. 2003 relaunch or somewhere near that time. Every now and then you'll see Skytracker being manually operated, but I guess TWC found it better to have the OCM up at the key wall operating Skytracker with a clicker that runs through a preprogrammed Skytracker presentation. Within the past year or so, Skytracker, when used on YWT, A&B, and EE, is operated manually by a non-OCM while the OCM stands at the wall. This can be beneficial since the operator can do stuff on-the-fly, but it can also be problematic because the operator doesn't always know when to change what's being displayed.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on February 12, 2008, 08:17:33 PM
EDIT: Nevermind, found the video.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 12, 2008, 08:18:50 PM
He has it in a seperate website which i forgot
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on February 12, 2008, 08:36:28 PM
Wow, that video was impressive. With the exception of the background, it hasn't really changed at all. I really hope it stays for TWC HD Relaunch and doesn't turn into some piece of crap (as you can see, I'm very, VERY negative when it comes to big changes).

What confuses me is why the other OCMs used those terrible still image radars instead of skytracker.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 12, 2008, 09:33:54 PM
The still image radars weren't really terrible, IMO. I really don't mind either implementation, although Skytracker is a more impressive tool from a technology standpoint, and it can even display information other than just the radar.

BTW, at that time, TWC did not yet have the capability to use Skytracker at the key wall. It could only be used from the EE desk or the Expert Desk. Someone around 2005, they were able to configure that big metal clicker to operate Skytracker from the key wall.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 12, 2008, 09:45:27 PM
I've just watched Steve's HD local forecast video, and I notice that the Severe Weather Warnings page doesn't seem to show warning polygons, but instead shows the old way of filling in the entire county.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 12, 2008, 09:51:00 PM
I've just watched Steve's HD local forecast video, and I notice that the Severe Weather Warnings page doesn't seem to show warning polygons, but instead shows the old way of filling in the entire county.

Nope, neither does the regular satellite LF; it's rather annoying.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 12, 2008, 11:46:51 PM
I've been wondering for the longest time, what is shown on the 1 minute flavor of the HD satellite?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 12:36:40 AM
A national radar, followed by a national forecast map, then the Watches & Warnings/Thurnderstorm Forecast/Precip. Forecast sgement, and finally the usual five-day forecast. I can post a video soon if you'd like.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on February 13, 2008, 12:42:09 AM
A national radar, followed by a national forecast map, then the Watches & Warnings/Thurnderstorm Forecast/Precip. Forecast sgement, and finally the usual five-day forecast. I can post a video soon if you'd like.
That would be great. :sunglasses:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 13, 2008, 05:57:25 PM
A national radar, followed by a national forecast map, then the Watches & Warnings/Thurnderstorm Forecast/Precip. Forecast sgement, and finally the usual five-day forecast. I can post a video soon if you'd like.
How big would a 100% quality capture of a HD Satellite LF be? Like 1:1 Quality?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 13, 2008, 06:00:16 PM
A national radar, followed by a national forecast map, then the Watches & Warnings/Thurnderstorm Forecast/Precip. Forecast sgement, and finally the usual five-day forecast. I can post a video soon if you'd like.
How big would a 100% quality capture of a HD Satellite LF be? Like 1:1 Quality?
Something with a 1920x1080 resolution? I imagine it would be pretty big.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 06:41:18 PM
A national radar, followed by a national forecast map, then the Watches & Warnings/Thurnderstorm Forecast/Precip. Forecast sgement, and finally the usual five-day forecast. I can post a video soon if you'd like.
How big would a 100% quality capture of a HD Satellite LF be? Like 1:1 Quality?

Kyle, are you saying you want one?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 13, 2008, 06:55:12 PM
A national radar, followed by a national forecast map, then the Watches & Warnings/Thurnderstorm Forecast/Precip. Forecast sgement, and finally the usual five-day forecast. I can post a video soon if you'd like.
How big would a 100% quality capture of a HD Satellite LF be? Like 1:1 Quality?

Kyle, are you saying you want one?
:) I would love one!

I'd like to patch it to my HD TV and see what is like in true quality!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 07:30:55 PM
Hmmm... let's see what I can do. It's processing right now.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
That didn't go over well; it kept the a 512 X 288 size. I'm going to have to force a larger size manually. What size should it be?

(Keep in mind, no matter what I do, I can't get it in perfect HD since I don't have a DVD recorder that can accept HDMI input (if one even exists), and there is also loss from the DVD compression. I could record an uncompressed one for you in the future, though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 13, 2008, 08:14:49 PM
That didn't go over well; it kept the a 512 X 288 size. I'm going to have to force a larger size manually. What size should it be?

(Keep in mind, no matter what I do, I can't get it in perfect HD since I don't have a DVD recorder that can accept HDMI input (if one even exists), and there is also loss from the DVD compression. I could record an uncompressed one for you in the future, though.
Can you try half of full HD?

Roughly around 960 x 540?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 08:16:08 PM
I'm going the whole 1920 X 1080 as we speak. Let's see what happens; this should take a little while...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 13, 2008, 08:18:03 PM
I'm going the whole 1920 X 1080 as we speak. Let's see what happens; this should take a little while...
Are you captuing it, or uploading it?

At any rate I'd like to know what a typical HD LF is in size (MB)..
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 08:21:23 PM
I'm encoding it right now. 60% done.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 08:55:37 PM
At any rate I'd like to know what a typical HD LF is in size (MB)..

I'm done encoding, so I've got your answer...

142 MB.

Thankfully, filefactory accepts up to 300MB/file, so it's being uploaded right now.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 13, 2008, 09:08:38 PM
At any rate I'd like to know what a typical HD LF is in size (MB)..

I'm done encoding, so I've got your answer...

142 MB.

Thankfully, filefactory accepts up to 300MB/file, so it's being uploaded right now.
Wow!

Thanks for doing this!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 09:25:25 PM
30 minutes and counting on the upload...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 13, 2008, 09:27:46 PM
Wow it takes a long time to upload! :shocked:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 09:49:42 PM
Here's yesterday's Local Across the 48s at full size...

http://www.filefactory.com/file/a60134/
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 13, 2008, 10:08:29 PM
Here's yesterday's Local Across the 48s at full size...

[url]http://www.filefactory.com/file/a60134/[/url]

Wow, the quality of that clip is AMAZING. Thanks a ton, Steve.  :thrilled:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 13, 2008, 10:16:48 PM
I cannot even find the download link :wacko:

Steve, why dont you just use Filefront?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 13, 2008, 10:25:36 PM
The link is there.

Filefront already banned me once for posting TWC videos; I don't want to risk it again.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 13, 2008, 10:29:33 PM
What I find interesting is that the "When Weather Changed History" Local On the 8s opener isn't in HD. Are the other WWCH promos HD?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 13, 2008, 10:30:46 PM
The link is there.

Filefront already banned me once for posting TWC videos; I don't want to risk it again.
Oh, Nevermind
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 13, 2008, 10:32:12 PM
It says "your download link is below" and all i'm seeing are ads
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 14, 2008, 12:51:29 AM
There should be a green button that says "free download".
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 14, 2008, 06:59:48 AM
Here's yesterday's Local Across the 48s at full size...

[url]http://www.filefactory.com/file/a60134/[/url]

I tryed to play it on my XP machine, however, when I played it, my screen turned baclk for some reason and I had to restart my computer. :wacko: Looks like I'll have to try it on my (widescreen) laptop.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 14, 2008, 07:12:13 AM
I tryed to play it on my XP machine, however, when I played it, my screen turned baclk for some reason and I had to restart my computer. :wacko: Looks like I'll have to try it on my (widescreen) laptop.
Yep, it played fine on my laptop. :yes:

What I find interesting is that the "When Weather Changed History" Local On the 8s opener isn't in HD. Are the other WWCH promos HD?
It is in HD - because it's letterboxed on SD. I'm not sure what happened in Spring Rubber's video, though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 14, 2008, 09:23:21 AM
I tryed to play it on my XP machine, however, when I played it, my screen turned baclk for some reason and I had to restart my computer. :wacko: Looks like I'll have to try it on my (widescreen) laptop.
Yep, it played fine on my laptop. :yes:

What I find interesting is that the "When Weather Changed History" Local On the 8s opener isn't in HD. Are the other WWCH promos HD?
It is in HD - because it's letterboxed on SD. I'm not sure what happened in Spring Rubber's video, though.

I don't believe its HD... I think it was just made to look letter box even if its SD...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 14, 2008, 04:35:31 PM
I don't believe its HD... I think it was just made to look letter box even if its SD...
You'd think they'd make in HD since their HD relaunch is approaching. :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 14, 2008, 04:52:11 PM
I don't believe its HD... I think it was just made to look letter box even if its SD...
You'd think they'd make in HD since their HD relaunch is approaching. :unsure:
Meh.

Thanks for posting that video, Steve! I'll hook it up tonight and see how it looks!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 14, 2008, 04:52:42 PM
Speaking of HD, when is the exact date that the full HD shows/studio debut?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 14, 2008, 05:26:56 PM
Speaking of HD, when is the exact date that the full HD shows/studio debut?
They still start transitioning show graphics to HD in June, and it should be completed by the end of the year.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 14, 2008, 06:28:36 PM
I swear, I am taking a weapon to work tomorrow..  :thrilled:

Reason: I have posted an exact TWC | HD timeline on this forum at least twice.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 14, 2008, 07:52:55 PM
BTW, all of the WWCH openers *are* pointlessly letterboxed on the HD feed, as well.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on February 14, 2008, 07:54:46 PM
I downloaded that clip on my laptop and played it.

It promptly crashed Windows Media Player.   :lol:

VLC played it perfectly, though.  Absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 14, 2008, 08:09:15 PM
I downloaded that clip on my laptop and played it.

It promptly crashed Windows Media Player.   :lol:

VLC played it perfectly, though.  Absolutely beautiful.

LOL, that's a Microsoft product for ya.  :rofl2: :rofl2:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 14, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
Well Gary, you have ZUne, which is a microsoft product too :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 14, 2008, 08:30:32 PM
What's that got to do with this?  :huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 14, 2008, 08:32:55 PM
U said "that's a Microsfot Product for ya :rofl2: :rofl2: "
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 14, 2008, 08:33:31 PM
Yeah, but we're not talking about Zune. We we talking about WMP.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 14, 2008, 08:38:08 PM
Yeah, but we're not talking about Zune. We we talking about WMP.
Doh, gary u confused me! :doh: :lol:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 14, 2008, 08:38:41 PM
Then this is a perfect time to get back on topic.  ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 14, 2008, 08:41:55 PM
I dont believe in HD. I think all channel qualities are the same
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 14, 2008, 08:48:07 PM
I dont believe in HD. I think all channel qualities are the same
Have you ever watched HD content on an HDTV? I watched a few NFL games in HD, and the difference in quality between the SD and HD was tremendous.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 14, 2008, 08:50:05 PM
Yes, its different in sports because sports are very detailed but for regular quality like TWC or Nat Geo, HD isnt really that necessary.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 14, 2008, 09:09:48 PM
Yes, its different in sports because sports are very detailed but for regular quality like TWC or Nat Geo, HD isnt really that necessary.

Believe me, it's a huge difference watching news programs in HD. If you watch TWC HD and then switch back to the SD feed, things look pretty blurry.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 14, 2008, 09:13:18 PM
I must give it a try then. In DirecTV, do i have to order a seperate HD package along with a normal package  or can i just order and have the HD Package? I really like to check TWC HD out
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 14, 2008, 09:29:45 PM
I must give it a try then. In DirecTV, do i have to order a seperate HD package along with a normal package  or can i just order and have the HD Package? I really like to check TWC HD out
You have to order the HD channels separately. Also, you have to have an HD receiver.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 14, 2008, 11:01:50 PM
LOL, its hillarious how ignorant people can be by saying "HD isn't that different then regular" when they've never seen it a day in their life. Americans for ya...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 14, 2008, 11:06:40 PM
I must give it a try then. In DirecTV, do i have to order a seperate HD package along with a normal package  or can i just order and have the HD Package? I really like to check TWC HD out
You have to order the HD channels separately. Also, you have to have an HD receiver.
AND a HDTV :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 14, 2008, 11:16:15 PM
I must give it a try then. In DirecTV, do i have to order a seperate HD package along with a normal package  or can i just order and have the HD Package? I really like to check TWC HD out
You have to order the HD channels separately. Also, you have to have an HD receiver.
AND a HDTV :P

Yeah that would help.  :lol: :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 15, 2008, 09:06:15 AM
HDTV's have been dropping in price lately. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 15, 2008, 12:35:42 PM
I have an HDTV. It makes the SD programming look very detailed
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Gil on February 15, 2008, 04:14:19 PM
I thought HD TV's didn't do anything to standard definition programming.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 15, 2008, 04:27:08 PM
I thought HD TV's didn't do anything to standard definition programming.
it did to mine
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 15, 2008, 06:38:59 PM
I thought HD TV's didn't do anything to standard definition programming.
it did to mine
It depends whether or not the network upconverts their programming. For example, TWC upconverts all of their studio programming; even though it's not true HD, the picture clarity is still amazing.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 15, 2008, 06:41:27 PM
I thought HD TV's didn't do anything to standard definition programming.
it did to mine
It depends whether or not the network upconverts their programming. For example, TWC upconverts all of their studio programming; even though it's not true HD, the picture clarity is still amazing.
You also have to think about the acual pixel, 4:3 and 16:9 refer to the actual pixel size as well. There is a pixel difference between a LCD and HDTV LCD screen.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 15, 2008, 06:45:05 PM
I thought HD TV's didn't do anything to standard definition programming.
it did to mine
It depends whether or not the network upconverts their programming. For example, TWC upconverts all of their studio programming; even though it's not true HD, the picture clarity is still amazing.
You also have to think about the acual pixel, 4:3 and 16:9 refer to the actual pixel size as well. There is a pixel difference between a LCD and HDTV LCD screen.
Okay, I see where you're coming from, but I don't get what point you're making. :wacko:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 15, 2008, 06:53:18 PM
i dont have a lcd screen
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 20, 2008, 02:45:06 PM
im just wondering if i got direct tv do you have to pick either twc or twc hd?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 20, 2008, 03:55:16 PM
You will need to purchase regular TWC in order to get TWC HD. Yeah, it i know it stinks <_<
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 20, 2008, 09:17:04 PM
im just wondering if i got direct tv do you have to pick either twc or twc hd?

No, you get both; they're right next to each other on the lineup as long as you actually get TWC HD. You would, of course, need an HD receiver with the HD package.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 20, 2008, 10:30:24 PM
is TWC HD coming to comcast anytime soon?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 21, 2008, 11:18:09 AM
They said they will but it'll come to different headends
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 21, 2008, 11:22:39 AM
TWC HD is already on Comcast.  ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 21, 2008, 11:26:30 AM
TWC HD is already on Comcast.  ;)

Gary i already asked comcast earlier today and they said its not availible  :angry:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on February 21, 2008, 11:38:47 AM
b/c its not available in you area ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 21, 2008, 11:47:36 AM
b/c its not available in you area ;)

I wish it was  <_<
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 21, 2008, 01:17:47 PM
TWC HD is already on Comcast.  ;)

Gary i already asked comcast earlier today and they said its not availible  :angry:

Watch the emoticons. Don't get angry with me. It is available here, and in many areas.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 21, 2008, 01:40:44 PM
Gary i'm not angry at you but i am at my local comcast
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on February 21, 2008, 02:48:02 PM
TWC HD is already on Comcast.  ;)
STAR hasn't been released yet, how is that possible?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 21, 2008, 02:53:23 PM
TWC HD is already on Comcast.  ;)
STAR hasn't been released yet, how is that possible?

I never said there was an HD STAR. Check out one of Spring Rubber's vids to see what their using.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 21, 2008, 03:01:13 PM
I never said there was an HD STAR. Check out one of Spring Rubber's vids to see what their using.
Spring Rubber has Direct TV, not Comcast.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on February 21, 2008, 03:03:15 PM
You see the same.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: MSquared980 on March 01, 2008, 08:03:16 AM
Yep, sure enough, I have a crawl on Weatherscan saying it's available and to check my listings...I haven't found it yet.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 01, 2008, 10:14:53 AM
youll probably have to wait in the summer
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on March 07, 2008, 12:28:14 PM
youll probably have to wait in the summer

June 2nd is too far away  :(
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 07, 2008, 12:38:01 PM
youll probably have to wait in the summer

June 2nd is too far away  :(

Its not THAT far.  :whistling:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 07, 2008, 03:27:48 PM
I'm hoping the new SD Satellite graphics and the HD "Intellistar" (its not an actual IS though) will be released on June 2 as well
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on March 10, 2008, 07:52:12 PM
I hope the SD satellite remains as is. I've been so accomodated to it over the years.

Whenever TWC puts in something new, expect it to be crappy.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on March 10, 2008, 08:12:42 PM
Well, considering the HD relaunch will likely be paired with new graphics, expect some sort of a graphics overhaul. Whether or not the format stays the same remains to be seen.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Logica on March 10, 2008, 08:38:47 PM
youll probably have to wait in the summer

June 2nd is too far away  :(

Its not THAT far.  :whistling:

well ya, Days will be faster during this time
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on March 31, 2008, 06:40:09 PM
To anyone who has access to the HD feed, when they show special segments during normal programming, are they in HD? I'm talking about things like Epic Conditions segments, and newer Health and Weather Ready segments that appear in widescreen on the SD feed.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on March 31, 2008, 06:44:40 PM
Nope. :no:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: LFMusicRocks on March 31, 2008, 07:40:20 PM
Wait, I saw TWC HD in Costco in DirecTV and during the OCM time, there is nothing, not even LDL or black bar. It's useless, except the graphics on the LF
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on March 31, 2008, 07:41:35 PM
Wait, I saw TWC HD in Costco in DirecTV and during the OCM time, there is nothing, not even LDL or black bar. It's useless, except the graphics on the LF
Yeah. lol...... simple.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on March 31, 2008, 08:12:01 PM
Wait, I saw TWC HD in Costco in DirecTV and during the OCM time, there is nothing, not even LDL or black bar. It's useless, except the graphics on the LF

How does that make it useless? It's nice to have a full view of TWC when you want it.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: LFMusicRocks on March 31, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Good point Steve, instead it's usually good to see LDL w/ current conditions, forecasts, etc.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on March 31, 2008, 08:44:49 PM
I'm pretty sure most of us HATE the LDL.  ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on April 10, 2008, 02:01:02 AM
I'm not sure if it's been fixed yet, but there was a horrible audio problem earlier today where all full-controlled programming's audio was playing way too heavily through the right speaker. It created a very weird effect, to say the least.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 10, 2008, 06:31:48 AM
What's wrong with the opaque LDL? I've always liked it since it premiered on the XL.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on April 10, 2008, 08:33:08 AM
It ain't opaque for IS viewers! Never has been AFAIK.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on April 10, 2008, 02:53:39 PM
I do think TWC botched up the HD feed for satellite viewers anyway. When did they become a big fan for windowed maps? The more space you have for maps, the better.

It's just as annoying as that "RIGHT NOW WEATHER" window seen when Jim Cantore uses skytracker. It makes the font on the lesser known cities tiny and blurry to read. I miss the old days of him operating it at the desk, red mouse and all.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Gil on April 10, 2008, 04:51:11 PM
the IS black bar IS Opaque. The XL's old bar had about 20-30% opacity. Gary, you're thinking of the opposite definition of Opaque.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on April 10, 2008, 05:29:47 PM
I was confused, but that only adds to my point. Most of us have complained at one time or another about hating the LDL because it basically takes away a third of the screen. Most of us have said (myself included) that we're partial to the clear bar the 4000 had, or else none at all.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Concentric Eyewall on April 10, 2008, 06:50:05 PM
I'd say I prefer the XL LDL the most...it was just so..perfect :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on April 10, 2008, 08:04:36 PM
The horrible audio was finally fixed at some point this afternoon; it was an issue during Day Planner but not during PM Edition.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on April 10, 2008, 08:45:57 PM
What I disliked about the XL's translucent LDL (as well as the ones in the previous Stars), was that it always had to turn off whenever a lower third or any other graphics displayed that would be blocked by the LDL. That always annoyed me. I was glad that they introduced an opaque LDL, along with lower thirds that don't have text that would be blocked by the LDL. The only thing I wish the current IntelliStar/XL LDL would have is a continuously displaying clock, rather than having the time and current temperature alternating.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: TheRolyPoly on April 11, 2008, 04:53:26 PM
Wanna See A Sneak Peak Of TWC's New Studios & New Graphics When They Turn HD?

Then Log On To...

www.twcmediakit.com/cable/hd.asp# (http://www.twcmediakit.com/cable/hd.asp#)

Click On The New HD Studio To See Their Time Lapse Of The New Studios

Click On HD Vision Video To See Their New Grpahics On Segments,On The Satellite Forecast,& On The Local Forecast
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on April 11, 2008, 10:32:24 PM
A video was posted earlier in another board.

Yuck.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on April 11, 2008, 11:05:41 PM
Nice new video; finally we get an idea of what the new studio will look like. Now it's time to wonder how the various parts will be implemented.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on April 11, 2008, 11:57:14 PM
looks rather small, but really good. haha
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on April 12, 2008, 11:33:54 AM
Very Interesting  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on April 15, 2008, 01:23:30 AM
Things got a little nuts on the HD channel from about 11:50 PM - Midnight CT. At 11:50, the screen started flickering black at regular intervals for about two minutes before finally letting up. Then, around 11:55, thin little "static" lines started jumping up the screen. Then when it came time for the 11:58 LF, the screen was black for about the first 30 seconds, then the LF flickered on, went away for another 30 seconds, and finally stayed on for the final minute of the LF. I'm surprised they didn't switch to the emergency feed amidst all of that. It seems like no one monitors the HD feed during the overnight hours.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: firestar120 on April 20, 2008, 06:11:18 AM
Gary i'm not angry at you but i am at my local comcast

Now, where have I heard that before?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: firestar120 on April 20, 2008, 06:17:15 AM
I'm pretty sure most of us HATE the LDL.  ;)

This is why I say that they need to change it from double height to single height.  On TWC HD's satellite forecasts, there's a whole bunch of useless blue space underneath the single height area.  Those double height bars annoy me...  :furious:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on April 22, 2008, 11:33:08 AM
I wonder what weatherscan would look like in HD also if there will be any music changes to the current playlist? or is a newer playlist in the works?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on April 22, 2008, 11:44:45 AM
Why would the playlists (or Weatherscan for that matter) change?  :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on April 22, 2008, 11:41:00 PM
You know what I just thought of? Since in the new HD studio they will be using projection systems and not chroma key walls, the OCMs will now actually be able to wear green.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on April 23, 2008, 12:20:49 AM
I thought I did read somewhere that they'll still have a key wall in there and that "viewers won't be able to tell the difference" between the usage of the key wall and the projectors.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on April 23, 2008, 09:14:54 AM
I thought I did read somewhere that they'll still have a key wall in there and that "viewers won't be able to tell the difference" between the usage of the key wall and the projectors.
This is true, however the chroma will only be used if the projectors fail. The key walls will be off set anyways, hence only used in the worst of times.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 11, 2008, 05:13:13 PM
When will the Intellistar HD debut?
My guess, June 08
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 11, 2008, 06:56:30 PM
my question was already anwered a while back...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 12, 2008, 04:17:53 PM
Just saw a new TWC HD commercial here at 4:16 PM ET...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 12, 2008, 04:46:12 PM
Was wondering when they'd start promoting... the launch is less than a month a way.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 12, 2008, 10:56:29 PM
Tonight at the end of Evening Edition, Paul and Alexandra were talking about the new HD studio and how they're now starting rehearsals in the new studio.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 12, 2008, 11:23:45 PM
You know, I wonder if the weekend edition will be HD at first or if they'll wait a little while. I also wonder when EEWC will go HD, and today I thought up an unrealistic skit that would be cool to see before the show on the day that EEWC goes HD:

(Rich and Sharon sitting at the studio 1A desk)

Sharon: Ya know, Rich, we've been doing this show together now for over a year and a half, but something feels like it's missing these days. There's just something missing...

Rich: Ya, I kinda get that sense...

Sharon: You know what I think it is?

Rich: What's that?

Sharon: We need to go HD.

Rich: I don't know... I'd kinda miss this old studio...

Sharon: Trust me; that's what we need.

Rich: Well, okay; let's head on over to the HD studio and check it out.

(Rich and Sharon get up and walk out of studio 1A; cut to them entering the HD studio, peripheral lights lit only)

Sharon: So, what do ya think?

Rich: Wow... (in awe) This place is amazing.

Sharon (smiling): So, should we do The Weather Channel Evening Edition?

Rich: Yeah, (dramatic turn toward camera) Let's do that.

(camera pans to a broad view of the studio; all lights turn on; EE opener begins playing on a nearby monitor)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 14, 2008, 01:21:11 AM
You know, the new HD commercial is eerily similar to another commercial I've seen before on a certain network that forecasts weather...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on May 14, 2008, 12:35:04 PM
Why would the playlists (or Weatherscan for that matter) change?  :unsure:
by maybe adding some new music not constant repeating every 30 mins and making the scan's playlist month by month like on the STARS? or maybe adding on more trammell starks music? also Weatherscan might be getting the HD look soon i hope
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 14, 2008, 01:58:59 PM
In addition to the new TWC HD promos Monday, today they unveiled a new TWC HD Local On The 8s opener.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 14, 2008, 03:31:24 PM
also Weatherscan might be getting the HD look soon i hope
I have it on high authority that nothing is going to happen to Weatherscan until the network is bought out. Makes sense. Why change the channel around, when for all they know, Wxscn could be gone after the sale.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 14, 2008, 03:35:58 PM
What's going to happen to the old building when they move to the HD building? Will the old building still be used as a backup, or will it be sold?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 14, 2008, 03:38:44 PM
What's going to happen to the old building when they move to the HD building? Will the old building still be used as a backup, or will it be sold?
It will be converted to office space.

Also, it's worth noting that they are not moving to a new building. The HD studio is just an addition to the current building.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 14, 2008, 03:42:19 PM
This is the first time since 2003 that a vertical LOT8s logo has been used!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 14, 2008, 04:56:47 PM
So, will this be the permanent new look for the Lot8s logo?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 14, 2008, 05:18:01 PM
That's a good question.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 14, 2008, 07:07:55 PM
I think Mike is using the projector and Steph is using the wall.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 14, 2008, 07:22:06 PM
What are you talking about? They're not in the HD studio yet.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 14, 2008, 07:27:43 PM
Isaw what was behind Mike on his clothes
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 14, 2008, 07:56:07 PM
That's an effect of the key wall. He's probably getting a faint reflection of green on his clothes, causing it to be keyed out. You won't see anything on anyone's clothes since the projection will be coming from behind the screen.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on May 14, 2008, 09:49:09 PM
This is the first time since 2003 that a vertical LOT8s logo has been used!
I saw that opener as well.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 16, 2008, 05:49:23 AM
Interesting. One of the ads for the new TWC|HD features the couple walking on the beach at sunset that has been prevalent in TWC openers and promos ever since the 2001 series of Weather Center openers. I guess they have that footage stored in HD?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 16, 2008, 07:23:27 AM
Now with today's YWT comes the beginning of the HD Studio Countdown graphic that we'll likely see every single day until June 2 from now on.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 16, 2008, 08:50:25 AM
Interesting. One of the ads for the new TWC|HD features the couple walking on the beach at sunset that has been prevalent in TWC openers and promos ever since the 2001 series of Weather Center openers. I guess they have that footage stored in HD?

Not necessarily. It could've been upconverted to HD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYCTWCjunkie on May 16, 2008, 11:55:35 AM
All this is really cool after I saw this live last night (before I switched over to Penguins/Flyers Game 4 on Versus HD).
My only concern is that "past 12 hours" being too small on the HD style banner.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 16, 2008, 07:23:45 PM
umm... in areas without TWC|HD Will the Analog IS be used or will the HD STAR be used?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 16, 2008, 07:28:00 PM
Why would the HD Star be used in non-HD areas? :huh:

And the answer is yes, the regular IS will be used
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 16, 2008, 07:29:05 PM
umm... in areas without TWC|HD Will the Analog IS be used or will the HD STAR be used?
This is probably the millionth time this has been answered. If you don't have TWC HD you will see the SD feed complete with whatever STAR you've had before the HD transition.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 16, 2008, 10:26:08 PM
Why would the HD Star be used in non-HD areas? :huh:

And the answer is yes, the regular IS will be used
No need to act snooty Vic, as I recall having to explain this to you more than once.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 16, 2008, 10:27:51 PM
Why would the HD Star be used in non-HD areas? :huh:

And the answer is yes, the regular IS will be used
No need to act snooty Vic, as I recall having to explain this to you more than once.
Yeah like a gazillion years back...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 16, 2008, 10:29:46 PM
Why would the HD Star be used in non-HD areas? :huh:

And the answer is yes, the regular IS will be used
No need to act snooty Vic, as I recall having to explain this to you more than once.
Yeah like a gazillion years back...

What difference does it make how long ago it was?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 16, 2008, 10:31:10 PM
Tyler just loves to pick on me of course :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 16, 2008, 11:02:26 PM
Tyler just loves to pick on me of course :P
I have good reasoning... and its not "Picking on," behave better and I'd have nothing to grunt about.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 16, 2008, 11:05:47 PM
Well try to leave me alone for a day.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 16, 2008, 11:08:02 PM
I have to agree with Tyler here. You bring it on yourself, and then make it out to look lie we're the bad guys.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 16, 2008, 11:24:43 PM
Well try to leave me alone for a day.

Then be good for a day....  :footinmouth:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 17, 2008, 02:19:28 AM
I noticed that the HD ads have been changed from "Coming in June" to "Where available". I guess they realized that TWC|HD channel *is* technically already available; only the studio is coming in June.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 17, 2008, 11:26:35 AM
Well try to leave me alone for a day.

Then be good for a day....  :footinmouth:
I am. You just have a habit of knitpicking on me while other people don't. You don't see Matt complaining everyday do ya?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 17, 2008, 03:21:09 PM
Vic, don't make me get nasty with you.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 17, 2008, 04:48:41 PM
Vic, don't make me get nasty with you.
I'm sorry. :(
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 17, 2008, 05:00:51 PM
I have add some footage of the new HD LF opener
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRYU32LEGWk
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on May 17, 2008, 06:42:40 PM
wow twc just showed what the double E would look like in HD  :blushing:  i have not seen it before
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 17, 2008, 11:47:26 PM
Does their Evening Edition logo look like EvEnInG EdItION?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 17, 2008, 11:49:33 PM
Does their Evening Edition logo look like EvEnInG EdItION?
Yeah, that's spot on. Exactly to a dime.  :whistling:

:rofl2:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 17, 2008, 11:51:03 PM
wow twc just showed what the double E would look like in HD  :blushing:  i have not seen it before

Is it a new commercial/promo?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 17, 2008, 11:52:04 PM
wow twc just showed what the double E would look like in HD  :blushing:  i have not seen it before

Is it a new commercial/promo?
Yes. A new Evening Edition HD commercial just premiered today.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 17, 2008, 11:52:15 PM
EE isn't what it used to be though. Now you've got Steele wearing jewelry that could single handedly bring down the whole studio, Cantore got sucked into the whole eye candy by TWC, and well Goodloe is still cool. I liked the days where Cantore was practically a one man circus on that show.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 18, 2008, 12:01:34 AM
Not to mention, EE had all those badass openers. I loved that Weekly Planner one where the woman hung up the phone in the office as a possible storm was coming and on the travel forecast had all those cars darting at 15455 miles an hour.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 18, 2008, 02:16:44 AM
Yeah, I hate the Cantore segments with the huge framed map and the enormous RIGHT NOW WEATHER banner on the bottom of the screen. They serve no functional purpose.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 18, 2008, 09:14:48 AM
Not to mention it makes some of the cities on skytracker hard to read. I remember the days of EE going right to Cantore at the desk and manually operating skytracker, then coming to the chroma key for a few minutes, leaving Paul and Jen/Alexandria a minute or 2 to do the forecasts.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2008, 10:40:10 AM
I know this has probably been asked before but will the regular Satellite feed's graphics change on June 2nd?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on May 18, 2008, 12:13:08 PM
I know this has probably been asked before but will the regular Satellite feed's graphics change on June 2nd?
We can assume, but no one knows.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2008, 12:21:28 PM
I hope so too. I know alot of people here say it will change but it has never been confirmed to my knowledge.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2008, 12:23:40 PM
EE isn't what it used to be though. Now you've got Steele wearing jewelry that could single handedly bring down the whole studio, Cantore got sucked into the whole eye candy by TWC, and well Goodloe is still cool. I liked the days where Cantore was practically a one man circus on that show.
What has changed about Jim Cantore? I don't think he has changed (with the exception of his hair), at least since I started watching TWC in the late 90s.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 18, 2008, 01:20:39 PM
EE isn't what it used to be though. Now you've got Steele wearing jewelry that could single handedly bring down the whole studio, Cantore got sucked into the whole eye candy by TWC, and well Goodloe is still cool. I liked the days where Cantore was practically a one man circus on that show.
What has changed about Jim Cantore? I don't think he has changed (with the exception of his hair), at least since I started watching TWC in the late 90s.
He has gotten glasses in recent years.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on May 18, 2008, 01:55:18 PM
EE isn't what it used to be though. Now you've got Steele wearing jewelry that could single handedly bring down the whole studio, Cantore got sucked into the whole eye candy by TWC, and well Goodloe is still cool. I liked the days where Cantore was practically a one man circus on that show.
What has changed about Jim Cantore? I don't think he has changed (with the exception of his hair), at least since I started watching TWC in the late 90s.
He has gotten glasses in recent years.

mmm hmm...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 18, 2008, 02:09:14 PM
I hope the regular satellite doesn't change. Do you honestly want the graphics updated to what the Intellistar has, with that coldish, depressing, ugly background? I like the sun/lake out of the best, then the cloudy background used before the TWC 05 relaunch.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2008, 02:11:55 PM
I hope the regular satellite doesn't change.
3 years is long enough!! I'm desperate for new SD Satellite graphics.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 18, 2008, 02:14:46 PM
Satellite viewers have had it easy though. They don't go through the pain us Intellistars have to go through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNAC8xbrY4

I wouldn't mind at all if they reverted to that set of graphics.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on May 18, 2008, 02:20:59 PM
I liked the sat graphics from 99-01
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on May 18, 2008, 02:27:13 PM
I hope the regular satellite doesn't change. Do you honestly want the graphics updated to what the Intellistar has, with that coldish, depressing, ugly background? I like the sun/lake out of the best, then the cloudy background used before the TWC 05 relaunch.

OMG. thats all i have to say...your constant complaining about the SD Satellite LF changing is quite annoying, get over it.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 18, 2008, 06:57:55 PM
I liked the sat graphics from 99-01
Same here, but I also liked the 2002-03 version.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 21, 2008, 12:27:41 AM
BTW, Rich's pink tie that he's wearing tonight has tiny blue and yellow shapes in it; bet you non-HDers didn't know that. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: mattk on May 21, 2008, 06:38:40 PM
I'm not sure I wanted to know that! :lol:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on May 21, 2008, 06:51:38 PM
LOL, yeah. There's detail, then there's TOO MUCH detail.  :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on May 21, 2008, 09:44:46 PM
Does anyone know if TWC's website will be relaunched on their HD transition?

I'd sure love a page to adjust to any resolution out there, and maybe some neato thingies in Weather Gold.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jae on May 22, 2008, 04:07:39 PM
After just catching time for TWC since school has ended for me, I must say, everything looks beautiful thus far. Personally, I am going to miss the newsroom in the back of the studio. That was always fun to have, and is always fun to apply to a studio set, IMO. However, the colors nonetheless are astonishingly sassy and goregous; the HD promos look good (A+) and I will definately be tuning in on June the 1.  :thrilled:

A couple of propisitions: Could someone post the new YWT/EE logos (snapshots of them from the promo, etc)?  Also, what is the verdict as to what other shows will be premiering in HD at the same time? :unsure:  I am curious as to what will occur: will Day Planner, Weather Center, etc. be broadcasting in SD in the old (*current*) studio on June 1? Or will they be broadcasted in SD from the HD set?

Moreover, I would love to know what else is in the new building besides the HD set. I am curious as to what production styles will be unvieled on June 1 as well as a possible revamping of production methods and structure/setup. There is still much in the way of missing links to this relaunch: I guess all of my questions will be answered next week! :)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 22, 2008, 04:37:31 PM
Only YWT and EE are going HD on June 2nd. All other shows will probably stay in their old studios for the time being. Nothing else is in the new building, as far as I know. It's just a studio, I believe.

Here's a cap from the end of the YWT promo:

http://a.imagehost.org/0427/YWT_HDpromo.png

And a video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60bB4r8uT4
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 25, 2008, 12:11:34 AM
I have a good question:

If the main position of the desk is as it is in the promos and if the cameras for the projector screen need to be between the desk and the screen, how will they set it up so that the cameras won't be visible from the desk shots?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 25, 2008, 12:41:16 AM
A national radar, followed by a national forecast map, then the Watches & Warnings/Thurnderstorm Forecast/Precip. Forecast sgement, and finally the usual five-day forecast. I can post a video soon if you'd like.
Would you mind posting this video, Steve? I don't believe I've yet seen a recording of the one minute flavor.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYCTWCjunkie on May 25, 2008, 04:48:05 AM
I figured it was best to put this brand spanking new article into this thread instead of having this standing as a thread of its own. Here is a great article on today's edition of the Atlanta-Journal Constitution on The Weather Channel's new HD studio set to debut on June 2nd.

A couple of new photos will wow you, especially the one with Paul Goodloe in it.

Atlanta Journal Constitution's business page (May 25):
http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2008/05/23/weather_0525.html (http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2008/05/23/weather_0525.html)
"Weather Channel to debut high-definition studio"
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on May 25, 2008, 11:55:22 AM
Thanks for the article, Paul :D

Amazing photos there.  What I am really happy about, is that The WEather Channel is not going to use any more animated conditions for the  map forecasts, they are going back to SOLID COLORS (as it looks like from that picture).  Wahoo
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 29, 2008, 05:05:00 PM
Somebody needs to tell HD Master that the all of the audio coming from the control room is garbled horribly; it's coming through as nothing but a "static" noise.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 29, 2008, 05:14:56 PM
Well, they're aware of it now. As of 4:10 CT, the emergency feed is playing on the HD channel during studio segments. At least that still has black pillar boxes!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 29, 2008, 05:22:23 PM
Now the Trammell music on the emergency feed is completely garbled, and the glimpse of the control room feed at the start of the segment was completely green static with white lines going through it.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 29, 2008, 05:23:47 PM
Now they just put the stylized pillar boxes up on the emergency feed.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 29, 2008, 05:27:25 PM
At around 4:24, they went back to the studio feed but without the pillar boxes; at first the audio was still static, but after several seconds, the image on the screen shifted a little, and suddenly the audio was fixed.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 29, 2008, 05:34:12 PM
The problem came back again at the bottom of the hour when they brought the stylized pillar boxes back. Again, they fixed the problem by removing the pillar boxes and shifting the screen image down. Something's buggy with the new pillar boxes.

On another note, I think the new pillar boxes cover up some of the overscan area. I like seeing as wide of a picture as possible. :(
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 29, 2008, 06:04:01 PM
Things have been screwed up for the start of every segment since then. They always wind up taking off the pillar boxes for a second and then putting them back on; everything runs smoothly after that for the rest of the segment.

At the start of the 5 PM CT segment, however, TWC did something I've never seen them do before; they started running the teaser in stretch-o-vision for a few seconds *with* the pillar boxes in place; then they fixed the image and brought it back to its proper pillar boxed format.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYCTWCjunkie on May 30, 2008, 02:12:10 AM
I don't notice any difference on my TV in regards to pillar boxes on my cable feed of The Weather Channel.  I watch it through the video connection "Colorstream HD" on my HD set. This is where I can watch both SD and HD feeds of channels without having to flip from one video source to another and get the SD channels as they are and the HD channels in HD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 30, 2008, 04:01:31 AM
There's a small difference. When they brought the blue pillar boxes back up after they had them down for technical difficulties, you could see a small portion of the text on each side of the radar disappear. Not a huge deal, though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 30, 2008, 07:13:05 AM
And so begins the last YWT in SD and the last YWT with the current package. *remembers when this package was drop-dead awesome before they butchered it last summer*

YWT better retool itself for the upcoming HD relaunch.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 30, 2008, 05:30:00 PM
At 5:27 PM ET, they played a new HD Closed Captioning sponsorship.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on May 30, 2008, 05:57:08 PM
I saw that too; I wonder if they'll keep using the current WO music for it just like they still use the 03-05 WC music for the Lot8s sponsorship.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYwxguy on May 31, 2008, 07:51:31 AM
Kelly Cass just announced that Weekend View will be going HD July 12th.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 31, 2008, 07:53:20 AM
Kelly Cass just announced that Weekend View will be going HD July 12th.
I wonder if that means that A&B will go HD at the same time because they share studios?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYCTWCjunkie on May 31, 2008, 01:43:05 PM
Here is another great new article. It was published this morning in the very reputable Broadcasting & Cable
magazine about The Weather Channel's new HD studio set to debut on Monday at 7:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time.

Definitely check out a treat for us TWC fans (and junkies) where you can watch a preview of our favorite OCMs
in rehearsals! See the video clip.

Expect this to be a part of a serious blog entry of mine on this story sometime between now and
the end of this weekend.

Broadcasting & Cable (May 31):
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6565762.html (http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6565762.html)
"Weather anchors ready for HD closeup"
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 31, 2008, 10:18:26 PM
Will Evening Edition Weekend be moving to the HD studio soon? Adam Berg mentioned "in a week we'll have a new look" then pointed to the countdown clock on the bottom of the screen and read off the time remaining until YWT in HD will be premiering on Monday.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on May 31, 2008, 10:26:22 PM
Will Evening Edition Weekend be moving to the HD studio soon? Adam Berg mentioned "in a week we'll have a new look" then pointed to the countdown clock on the bottom of the screen and read off the time remaining until YWT in HD will be premiering on Monday.
Yes, I'm pretty sure it'll be moving into the HD studios next weekend after regular EE moves in to HD. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on May 31, 2008, 10:56:51 PM
And on that note, Kristin and Adam have indeed confirmed that they will be in the HD studio next weekend.

Do we yet know if EEWC will be in HD next week?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on May 31, 2008, 11:24:51 PM
I'd assume so, seeing how EEWC's graphics had changed the same day the primetime Evening Edition did in the 2005 graphics change.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 01, 2008, 02:01:59 AM
This also explains why Kristin and Adam haven't been doing weekday fill-in work lately. They were probably rehearsing.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: TheRolyPoly on June 01, 2008, 09:35:50 AM
We are just 1 day away from the new TWC studio!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 01, 2008, 11:32:06 AM
We are just 1 day away from the new TWC studio!
I know. I could have post it. :hmm:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jae on June 01, 2008, 07:58:24 PM
I am so freaking excited!, I will definately be tuning in in the morning. My area (Atlanta) already has what appears to be the TWC|HD LDL, which is blue and features animation (Im sure you all have that as well). That alone is getting me very pumped for tomorrow!  :shades:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 01, 2008, 08:05:40 PM
I am so freaking excited!, I will definately be tuning in in the morning. My area (Atlanta) already has what appears to be the TWC|HD LDL, which is blue and features animation (Im sure you all have that as well). That alone is getting me very pumped for tomorrow!  :shades:
That is NOT the TWC HD LDL, but an update to the SD IntelliSTAR's LDL. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jae on June 01, 2008, 08:12:35 PM
Ah - interesting - but why update the SD IntelliSTAR LDL when an HD relaunch is on deck?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 01, 2008, 08:24:35 PM
Trying to update the entire on-air image to the shiny blue look. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 01, 2008, 08:37:49 PM
I can't wait for tomorrow! I wonder if anymore updates for the SD Satellite will take effect
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 01, 2008, 08:39:41 PM
I wonder if anymore updates for the SD Satellite will take effect
Yes Victor, they're going to completely redesign the SD Satellite LF again even though they already did last week. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 01, 2008, 08:43:51 PM
I wonder if anymore updates for the SD Satellite will take effect
Yes Victor, they're going to completely redesign the SD Satellite LF again even though they already did last week. :P
No silly!! :P

I mean like will they change the maps? And the thunderstorm forecast banner?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 01, 2008, 08:45:43 PM
I wonder if anymore updates for the SD Satellite will take effect

Yes Victor, they're going to completely redesign the SD Satellite LF again even though they already did last week. :P

You hit the nail on the head. I hear it's gonna look something like this:

(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6981/precfcstpj7.gif)

:P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 01, 2008, 08:47:05 PM
 :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 01, 2008, 08:49:23 PM
OH MY GOD IT'S BEAUTFIUL!!!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on June 01, 2008, 11:51:48 PM
I am so excited for YWT tomorrow morning!! :D

I just hope I remember.. I normally dont watch YWT anymore :(
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 01:03:42 AM
I'm pulling an all-nighter and hopefully going to bed after the first hour of YWT. Then I'll wake up in the mid-afternoon hours and get ready for the EE HD launch. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: firestar120 on June 02, 2008, 01:13:33 AM
I'm pulling an all-nighter and hopefully going to bed after the first hour of YWT. Then I'll wake up in the mid-afternoon hours and get ready for the EE HD launch. :P

Same here.  I'm afraid to go to sleep because everytime I say I'm going to wake up early, I end up waking up late.  By hours.   :whistling:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: firestar120 on June 02, 2008, 01:18:37 AM
I wonder if anymore updates for the SD Satellite will take effect

Yes Victor, they're going to completely redesign the SD Satellite LF again even though they already did last week. :P

You hit the nail on the head. I hear it's gonna look something like this:

([url]http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6981/precfcstpj7.gif[/url])

:P


That's exactly what it's going to look like.   :rofl2:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 01:26:08 AM
I'm pulling an all-nighter and hopefully going to bed after the first hour of YWT. Then I'll wake up in the mid-afternoon hours and get ready for the EE HD launch. :P

Same here.  I'm afraid to go to sleep because everytime I say I'm going to wake up early, I end up waking up late.  By hours.   :whistling:

Same. If I try to sleep, either I won't be able to, or I'll oversleep. Caffiene. Yum.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: firestar120 on June 02, 2008, 01:36:16 AM
I'm pulling an all-nighter and hopefully going to bed after the first hour of YWT. Then I'll wake up in the mid-afternoon hours and get ready for the EE HD launch. :P

Same here.  I'm afraid to go to sleep because everytime I say I'm going to wake up early, I end up waking up late.  By hours.   :whistling:

Same. If I try to sleep, either I won't be able to, or I'll oversleep. Caffiene. Yum.

Not only will I find drinks with a lot of caffeine, I'll also watch videos on YouTube and keep clicking "Random Article" on Wikipedia.  All of this for 6 hours, 25 minutes, and 4 seconds.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 03:33:17 AM
The HD feed just crashed hard during the LF at 2:29 CT. The SD feed was displaying the emergency feed at the same time, but the HD feed only aired a black screen with LF music from the playlist cutting in and out. Even when WWCH returned on the SD feed, the HD feed was still nothing but a black screen and choppy audio. They better work hard to make sure nothing like this happens for YWT or EE. Talk about disaster if that were to happen!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: firestar120 on June 02, 2008, 04:05:53 AM
I'm watching First Outlook.  I don't normally stay up this late, so I don't know if these have been around for a while or if they are just being added today, but they're using a new font on Skytracker and they have also added new HD graphics.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 04:07:14 AM
Created a new thread updating all of the changes...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: firestar120 on June 02, 2008, 04:32:02 AM
Created a new thread updating all of the changes...

Okay, that's good!  Easier, too.  I'll go check it out now.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on June 02, 2008, 07:28:30 AM
The new maps must be hard to point at or something.  Heather seemed to be pointing at all the wrong places when she was presenting the forecast for "areas like Minneapolis, Chicago, and Indianapolis" at the beginning of YWT.  I don't know if she was actually pointing to them or what... but it was odd.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 07:36:42 AM
Jim said to expect that at first. The wall is a little bit away from the OCMs.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on June 02, 2008, 07:40:56 AM
Jim said to expect that at first. The wall is a little bit away from the OCMs.
Makes sense.  I know I wouldn't want to look straight at the wall.

I am way excited about the future of TWC, when ALL shows go Hi-Def.  But, I am kind of glad all of the shows are getting graphics.  I only expected Evening Edition, and Your Weather Today to change their graphics today, and I was more than surprised to see the new LDL today.  I didn't expect it to go national til later this year.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 07:46:06 AM
No check with Ricky Bell at 6:40 like they used to do at that time; they're still doing it during FO, though.

They did, however, do a comprehensive Travel forecast during that segment. That's a plus.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 07:51:22 AM
Now they they have a podium designed like the desk pulled in front of the wall for the Tropical Update segment.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on June 02, 2008, 08:03:57 AM
 i still dont have TWC lHDl  :furious: stupid  :censored: comcast i waited so long for nothing
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 02, 2008, 08:09:18 AM
Gotta say...everything flows really well, graphics-wise.  The new LDL blends very well with the on-screen graphics package.

Good job, TWC.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 08:14:08 AM
The maps on the wall don't look nearly as nice in SD; I see what folks are saying about the stretched out look with the wall on top and the floor on the bottom. It probably looks like a downgrade to some SD viewers.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 08:22:48 AM
Anyone else think the last few notes of the YWT Weekly Planner opener sound like the "You Need Us, The Weather Channel" jingle?

The music in the "island" HD ad reminds me of the 1998-2001 signature, as well.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 02, 2008, 06:32:07 PM
Question:  The double-E is in HD now, but is EEWC and Weekend EE also in HD?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 06:34:47 PM
Question:  The double-E is in HD now, but is EEWC and Weekend EE also in HD?
We know for sure EE Weekend will be. Adam and Kristin mentioned it yesterday. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on June 02, 2008, 07:02:14 PM
WOAH. blown away from A & B graphics...

Steph has also mentioned they'll be using Studio 1a for two weeks, before they head into HD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
A&B has been kicked out to 1A; they're using blue graphics, and they're going HD two weeks from today.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 07:03:24 PM
What Al said. :P

The opener is quite impressive, and Mike's wearing a tie now. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on June 02, 2008, 07:04:28 PM
What Al said. :P

The opener is quite impressive, and Mike's wearing a tie now. :P

no, what billy said...he beat me by a couple of seconds but in this topic:

https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,1006.0.html

:P. ah well. hahaha
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 07:06:21 PM
What Al said. :P

The opener is quite impressive, and Mike's wearing a tie now. :P

no, what billy said...he beat me by a couple of seconds but in this topic:

https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,1006.0.html

:P. ah well. hahaha
I win. :P

BTW, it still looks like they've kept up with the Weather Ready Mondays.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 07:07:09 PM
And the WeatherReady sponsor graphic is now in HD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on June 02, 2008, 07:08:14 PM
i wonder what will happen to weekend view- will they be moved to the big desk too....my guess is that they moved their HD Cameras from the a & b / wv studios to the HD Studio, but thats just my guess.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 02, 2008, 07:11:14 PM
Wow, that A&B opener is awesome!  :thrilled: :dance:

i wonder what will happen to weekend view- will they be moved to the big desk too....my guess is that they moved their HD Cameras from the a & b / wv studios to the HD Studio, but thats just my guess.
Probably. And if that does indeed happen, then Weekend View will be at the big desk for quite a while, as Weekend View isn't supposed to go HD until July 12.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 07:14:46 PM
Why isn't Cantore in HD like they said he'd be for A&B?

As for the studio, the issue might be that the new graphics clash horribly with the red/orange/yellow A&B set.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on June 02, 2008, 07:21:36 PM
Why isn't Cantore in HD like they said he'd be for A&B?

As for the studio, the issue might be that the new graphics clash horribly with the red/orange/yellow A&B set.

hahaha. could be that too.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 07:23:01 PM
To be honest, after watching my tapes from YWT this morning, I wasn't too impressed with the projection/video screens. They're just too small in SD and it looked too washed out. Maybe that was my tape, but I'll have to wait to see it live during EE tonight. I just think the chroma key walls look much better.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 07:29:30 PM
To be honest, after watching my tapes from YWT this morning, I wasn't too impressed with the projection/video screens. They're just too small in SD and it looked too washed out. Maybe that was my tape, but I'll have to wait to see it live during EE tonight. I just think the chroma key walls look much better.

I agree with you to a large extent. I'll bet to SD viewers that the 1A broadcasts actually look better than the HD broadcasts because of the green screens. The direction they took certainly isn't quite like their "HD Vision" video from March. I wonder if the HD STAR will even look like it's depicted in that video.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 08:57:28 PM
This morning at the end of First Outlook they didn't check in with the YWT team, nor did they check in with the EE team at the end of A&B tonight.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on June 02, 2008, 09:01:30 PM
OMG it looks so cool and Cantore is funnier in HD :p
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 02, 2008, 09:03:02 PM
OMG DOUBLE E THEME IS AMAZING.  (sorry).

Dangly jewels must be bad for HD........ :twothumbs:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 09:05:48 PM
I'm still not liking the video projection screens. I thought we wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the projectors and the key walls. I can definitely tell the difference.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 09:17:39 PM
They blew it big time at the start of EE. They left the pillar bars up for the first four minutes. Talk about a failure; they should be on top of this stuff.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 09:21:39 PM
Anyone notice that the cameras at the projector walls seem to be a bit crooked? Or is that just an optical illusion because the video wall is curved?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 09:24:09 PM
Possibly, or it's intentional.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Concentric Eyewall on June 02, 2008, 09:25:36 PM
They blew it big time at the start of EE. They left the pillar bars up for the first four minutes. Talk about a failure; they should be on top of this stuff.

I noticed that!  I thought it was just a Dish Network thing or something, apparently not :wacko:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 02, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
I REALLY like how the new format of the teases for YWT and EE... nice big flashy titles rather than a generic L3 that says "COMING UP..." etc. Very professional, and puts TWC up there with the other big networks.

From what I've seen so far, the conversion to HD has been the best change in years. Everything looks professional, and very eye-catching.


Does anyone have the Day Planner open? Or vid/cap of the L3s?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 02, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
Speaking of teasers, PM Edition did not use a recorded teaser tonight. I wonder if they just didn't have the teaser ready tonight (and thus they would still use a recorded teaser), or if they're going to just use a live teaser from now on.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 09:46:45 PM
Is it me or are they showing less of the studio tonight for EE than they did this morning for YWT?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on June 02, 2008, 09:52:49 PM
Here's the first broadcast in Evening Edition HD: http://files.filefront.com/EE+6+2+08+600+PMwmv/;10469579;/fileinfo.html
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 02, 2008, 09:57:42 PM
Anyone see the WC open? Very nice!! I love the music, plus, I really like the spinning globe. So far, I think its the only show logo using Interstate as the font (unless FO does,I didn't see it).
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 02, 2008, 09:59:42 PM
Anyone see the WC open? Very nice!! I love the music, plus, I really like the spinning globe. So far, I think its the only show logo using Interstate as the font (unless FO does,I didn't see it).
No, First Outlook doesn't use Interstate.

Weather Center is indeed the best one so far. YWT isn't bad either. Can't wait to see the weekend graphics!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 10:04:00 PM
They're pathetic tonight! The first hour we don't get to start in HD; now the second hour the "studio preview" video freezes. Can we have the morning control room crew back?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 10:19:53 PM
I can flip my normal 4:3 TV into a 16:9 mode to get somewhat of a faux-HD look. I must say EE looks a lot better in 16:9 than it did in 4:3.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 10:47:44 PM
Day Planner opener/teaser (even in its second hour, things still didn't go quite right.)

DayPlanner20080602-10am.avi (7.0 MB) (http://b.imagehost.org/download/0745/DayPlanner20080602-10am.avi)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tropicalweather on June 02, 2008, 10:50:13 PM
I really don't look forward to the dramatic music for Evening Edition.  I prefer the previous package.  It just wouldn't make sense to have this kind of music on a benign weather day.  Leave that package for Storm Alert!  The graphics on another note are hand in hand with PM Edition and A&B.

Overall, I think the best package/music is PM Edition's...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on June 02, 2008, 10:52:56 PM
Abrams in HD.....yum.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 10:54:47 PM
Did they have the desk rotated to face the right side of the wall after Dr. Lyons's segment, or did Paul and Alex simply turn to face the camera?

I wonder when they'll turn the desk completely around...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 10:57:32 PM
EEWC starts in a few minutes. Now taking bets as to whether it will be in HD or not.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 02, 2008, 11:00:42 PM
Well, Rich and Sharon are now "doing that" in HD. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 11:01:13 PM
Well, Rich and Sharon are now "doing that" in HD. :P
W00t!  :thrilled: We are indeed "doing that" in HD!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:01:34 PM
We are! :thrilled:

Let's do that! :twothumbs:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:04:41 PM
Sharon's using the key wall now. The lighting is a bit odd...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 11:05:23 PM
Sharon's using the key wall now. The lighting is a bit odd...
Yeah, I just noticed that, along with an HD graphic with the titlebar cutoff again.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:08:02 PM
Yeah, they've also rotated the desk for this show. Methinks it's pretty hard to do a master controlled show with the setup used for normal shows; this is probably why only one person might be able to use the key wall at a time; we'll have to see how things develop.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 02, 2008, 11:11:38 PM
Ew. Not feeling the DP music at all. Doesn't have the "morning" feel IMO. The graphics aren't the best, either.


Well, Rich and Sharon are now "doing that" in HD. :P
W00t!  :thrilled: We are indeed "doing that" in HD!

Man, I want to do it on-screen in HD!  :angry: :twothumbs: :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 02, 2008, 11:12:42 PM
Hmm, they cued the LDL a little bit late at the start of the :11 past segment.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 11:14:11 PM
The key wall that Sharon is using appears to be poorly lit compared to the old key walls in the SD studio.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:17:35 PM
Just like the Hurricane Central key wall, hopefully they'll realize the lighting problem and fix it... in a year or two... >_>
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 02, 2008, 11:18:44 PM
Well, Rich and Sharon are now "doing that" in HD. :P
W00t!  :thrilled: We are indeed "doing that" in HD!
Yeah, let's do so in HD. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 02, 2008, 11:19:51 PM
Hmm, they cued the LDL a little bit late at the start of the :11 past segment.
yeah, that's happened several times today.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 02, 2008, 11:23:55 PM
It seems that only Rich is using the projector wall and Sharon is only using the key wall. I wonder if Sharon hasn't had enough practice with the new projectors yet?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:24:57 PM
1) They're using the Weekly Planner maps they were using in 1A today.

2) Part of Sharon's hair is getting keyed out, and her pink jacket is reflecting pink into her hair.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 02, 2008, 11:25:40 PM
Yeah, they've also rotated the desk for this show.
I really like the set this way - it makes it look very professional, almost like a news set. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on June 02, 2008, 11:26:39 PM
did anyone else notice that paul goodloe was the only one to use the projector wall? or did i just miss the parts where alexandra was using it?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:27:18 PM
It seems that only Rich is using the projector wall and Sharon is only using the key wall. I wonder if Sharon hasn't had enough practice with the new projectors yet?

I'm also thinking they don't have the staff necessary to do all of the fancy camera work.

I think Alex might've used the key wall once; not sure though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 02, 2008, 11:27:53 PM
did anyone else notice that paul goodloe was the only one to use the projector wall? or did i just miss the parts where alexandra was using it?
Both Alexandra and Paul used the projector wall. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tropicalweather on June 02, 2008, 11:28:43 PM
Ew. Not feeling the DP music at all. Doesn't have the "morning" feel IMO. The graphics aren't the best, either.


Well, Rich and Sharon are now "doing that" in HD. :P
W00t!  :thrilled: We are indeed "doing that" in HD!

Man, I want to do it on-screen in HD!  :angry: :twothumbs: :P

Definitely "morningy" when compared to the Evening Edition music... :P

I think that Sharon does not yet feel ready for a presentation on the HD wall.  Who knows...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:31:56 PM
They started this segment using a really weird angle at the projector wall; it looked cool, though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:34:46 PM
Sharon just said, "All right, that sounds like a plan." in HD!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 02, 2008, 11:40:20 PM
Sharon just said, "All right, that sounds like a plan." in HD!
Yeah, I heard that. :D :P And at 10:40 PM CT, Rich just said "Yeah, let's do that" in HD as well.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:41:27 PM
10:40 CT

Rich: Yeah, let's do that.

In HD!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:42:13 PM
Then Sharon immediately followed with "That sounds like a plan!"

They must be settling in... :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 02, 2008, 11:42:40 PM
10:40 CT

Rich: Yeah, let's do that.

In HD!
And then another "Alright, sounds like a plan" after that. :happy:

I'm so glad I get to watch EEWC again. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 02, 2008, 11:44:57 PM
Now another "Yeah, let's do that" from Rich. They're going wild with it this segment!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tropicalweather on June 02, 2008, 11:59:47 PM
Bloopers left and right with maps and videos.  Tropical Update music played a few minutes ago with a black screen.  All bloopers now in HD!

To be fair though, I think they're doing better tonight than most other nights...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 03, 2008, 12:02:55 AM
They just tried to show off the studio at the top of the hour, but the camera on the track above the desk just shook in place.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 03, 2008, 12:57:36 AM
Hey, they finally got the camera thing working as the show drew to a close!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 03, 2008, 08:25:44 AM
We just had our first clicker failure in the HD studio when Heather was doing the Weekly Planner. Funny thing is that just before that, I almost accidentally changed the channel on my recording, and I thought, "What if her clicker were to fail if I changed the channel?"

Freaky.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tropicalweather on June 03, 2008, 09:21:36 AM
There doesn't seem to be much consistency today with respect to the music used in Your Weather Today.  I'm sure they haven't settled in yet and are trying to tweak things...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 03, 2008, 10:32:01 AM
They're now using YWT lower thirds on Day Planner today for some reason.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: twcclassics on June 03, 2008, 10:45:25 AM
Here's the first broadcast in Evening Edition HD: [url]http://files.filefront.com/EE+6+2+08+600+PMwmv/;10469579;/fileinfo.html[/url]

Wow! Overcompensating much (talking about the music and intro)? :fear: Studio looks great, though. That part that Alex said about how our goal remains the same made me laugh. Are they trying something new? :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on June 03, 2008, 11:44:56 AM
Here's the first broadcast in Evening Edition HD: [url]http://files.filefront.com/EE+6+2+08+600+PMwmv/;10469579;/fileinfo.html[/url]

Wow! Overcompensating much (talking about the music and intro)? :fear: Studio looks great, though. That part that Alex said about how our goal remains the same made me laugh. Are they trying something new? :P


What goal? To bore us with fluff?   :rofl2: :rofl2:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 03, 2008, 04:39:01 PM
Sharon just said, "All right, that sounds like a plan." in HD!
Yeah, I heard that. :D :P And at 10:40 PM CT, Rich just said "Yeah, let's do that" in HD as well.
I saw these pharses as well.:)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 03, 2008, 05:01:40 PM
They used a live teaser once again on PM Edition tonight. Looks like they're not going to use a pre-recorded one anymore.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 03, 2008, 05:20:56 PM
Matt, Your Weather Today seems to have actually refocused itself more on the weather than on some of the pointless segments they've developed over the past year+. Evening Edition, however, seems like the same old same old. I wish things would change, I really do. but it doesn't seem like change is in order for that show.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 03, 2008, 09:03:26 PM
For EE tonight, the camera angle on the video wall is a bit tighter in; you can no longer see the lights at the top of the wall (at least on my TV).
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 03, 2008, 09:13:48 PM
Now they've got Dr. Forbes in the HD studio for the first time; he's using the telestrator on the end of the desk.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 03, 2008, 09:32:56 PM
For EE tonight, the camera angle on the video wall is a bit tighter in; you can no longer see the lights at the top of the wall (at least on my TV).
And now for the 9:30 PM ET segment, they're back to using the wider shot from last night.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 03, 2008, 10:32:36 PM
I wonder if EEWC will go fully live for the first time in HD tonight; there's a lot of severe weather going on tonight.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 03, 2008, 11:03:28 PM
I wonder if EEWC will go fully live for the first time in HD tonight; there's a lot of severe weather going on tonight.

Nope, but Sharon's using the projector wall, and Rich is using the key wall. Looks like Master can only use the projector wall for one OCM per broadcast.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on June 03, 2008, 11:19:32 PM
I wonder if EEWC will go fully live for the first time in HD tonight; there's a lot of severe weather going on tonight.

Nope, but Sharon's using the projector wall, and Rich is using the key wall. Looks like Master can only use the projector wall for one OCM per broadcast.
Just a quick note, Master Control, and full control (X3) have the same abilities now.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 03, 2008, 11:33:10 PM
Do they have the same amount of staff to run everything? They seem pretty understaffed during this shift and unable to change camera locations on the fly.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 04, 2008, 12:27:25 AM
Random thought: Could they theoretically turn the video wall into a huge chroma key? Wouldn't all they need to do is project a solid color onto the screen and move a few cameras?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 04, 2008, 12:33:00 AM
I actually saw that in one of the preview videos somewhere. They had part of the right side of the screen solid green.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 04, 2008, 06:16:17 AM
Back this morning is Jen Carfagno's favorite Travel Radar with the enormous city names. There aren't any airport icons, though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on June 04, 2008, 09:53:36 AM
Do they have the same amount of staff to run everything? They seem pretty understaffed during this shift and unable to change camera locations on the fly.
All cameras can be controlled by 1 (one) CCU operator who simply selects a camera, and moves the joysticks. From what I've heard there are a few extra people on hand for the new operations until things get settled.

Random thought: Could they theoretically turn the video wall into a huge chroma key? Wouldn't all they need to do is project a solid color onto the screen and move a few cameras?
It seems do-able, however chroma key is very picky on its hues and such, the color would have to be 100% consistent of its self across the whole screen, if they were to do this it would look pretty messed up as if / when the camera moves, the whole image will move with it.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 04, 2008, 06:30:43 PM
Last night on EE (don't know if this has been mentioned), the large city names from the Weekly Planner map for precipitation were removed. I hope this is permanent because the map looks WAY better without them. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 04, 2008, 06:35:40 PM
Ewww... they just used an on-the-fly opener. *cringes*
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 04, 2008, 06:41:50 PM
Ewww... they just used an on-the-fly opener. *cringes*
Is it new, or is it the same one that they've been using?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 04, 2008, 06:54:13 PM
It's based on the old ones with the end of it being a box with an image in it, but the font is different, and it begins with HD-esque effects from the current packages with circles moving in between each other and stuff. It's better than the old ones, that's for sure, but they'll get tiring if they abuse them like they did at the end of the last era.

On another note, I noticed that the new Severe Weather opener has NWS bulletin text in the background, much like how the old WC openers had teleprompter script from Hurricane Wilma in the background.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 05, 2008, 01:01:26 AM
I think I'm seeing the HD recording of EEWC right now...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2008, 01:12:58 AM
You indeed are! Sweet!

I'm watching The Daily Show during this slot for the future now; it's a different nightly schedule after being used to watching The Daily Show at 10 PM CT and EEWC from 11-1 CT. Oh well, I'll get used to it.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on June 05, 2008, 01:14:21 AM
I think I'm seeing the HD recording of EEWC right now...
I think you're right.  :wacko:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2008, 01:38:21 AM
Wait, they're letterboxing it for SD viewers? That's odd. Why can't they air it in 4:3 for SD viewers like they do when they're live?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2008, 02:08:17 AM
Two more things...

1) I might be imagining things, but the quality of the rebroadcast seems to not be true HD. It's close, but I think they might have taken away from the quality to preserve resources.

2) Is it me, or is the text on the maps hard to read for you SDers? I just switched over to the SD feed, and especially on the projector maps, the text was really blurry.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on June 05, 2008, 02:13:56 AM
2) Is it me, or is the text on the maps hard to read for you SDers? I just switched over to the SD feed, and especially on the projector maps, the text was really blurry.
Yeah, I noticed that. I had to strain my eyes to read the city names.

I've noticed that the letter boxing only appears when they show footage from outside the studio (see above images), and it disappears when the OCMs in the studio are shown. However the black on the top and bottom of the screen remains in both situations.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2008, 02:18:47 AM
2) Is it me, or is the text on the maps hard to read for you SDers? I just switched over to the SD feed, and especially on the projector maps, the text was really blurry.
Yeah, I noticed that. I had to strain my eyes to read the city names.

I've noticed that the letter boxing only appears when they show footage from outside the studio (see above images), and it disappears when the OCMs in the studio are shown. However the black on the top and bottom of the screen remains in both situations.

You're referring to pillar boxing (i.e., the bars on the left and right). The black bars on the top and bottom are letterboxes.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 05, 2008, 06:28:12 AM
2) Is it me, or is the text on the maps hard to read for you SDers? I just switched over to the SD feed, and especially on the projector maps, the text was really blurry.
Yeah, the video wall is especially hard to see.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2008, 07:16:22 AM
Apparently Eboni Deon has been trained on the HD studio as a fill-in; she's filling in for Nicole today. The other possibility is that she's not trained for it; we'll see if she purposely stays away from the projector wall today.

I could've sworn I heard Nicole sounding a little raspy yesterday. If so, this has to be a worst case scenario for TWC unless they did indeed prep Eboni in the Studio in case this very thing happened.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 05, 2008, 07:59:53 AM
Apparently Eboni Deon has been trained on the HD studio as a fill-in; she's filling in for Nicole today. The other possibility is that she's not trained for it; we'll see if she purposely stays away from the projector wall today.

I could've sworn I heard Nicole sounding a little raspy yesterday. If so, this has to be a worst case scenario for TWC unless they did indeed prep Eboni in the Studio in case this very thing happened.
Nicole is on Military Duty for a few days. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on June 05, 2008, 10:17:17 AM
Apparently Eboni Deon has been trained on the HD studio as a fill-in; she's filling in for Nicole today. The other possibility is that she's not trained for it; we'll see if she purposely stays away from the projector wall today.

I could've sworn I heard Nicole sounding a little raspy yesterday. If so, this has to be a worst case scenario for TWC unless they did indeed prep Eboni in the Studio in case this very thing happened.
Nicole is on Military Duty for a few days. :yes:
Of all people, I thought for sure STEVE should know that :P

Maybe they train all TWC OCM's in there, just in case someone would need to fill in, I mean, they all are going to end up in there some day....
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on June 05, 2008, 12:17:02 PM
Apparently Eboni Deon has been trained on the HD studio as a fill-in; she's filling in for Nicole today. The other possibility is that she's not trained for it; we'll see if she purposely stays away from the projector wall today.

I could've sworn I heard Nicole sounding a little raspy yesterday. If so, this has to be a worst case scenario for TWC unless they did indeed prep Eboni in the Studio in case this very thing happened.
Nicole is on Military Duty for a few days. :yes:
Of all people, I thought for sure STEVE should know that :P

Maybe they train all TWC OCM's in there, just in case someone would need to fill in, I mean, they all are going to end up in there some day....

well actually she mentioned it on air a couple of days ago...maybe it was yesterday.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Gil on June 05, 2008, 02:35:38 PM
I have to say I'm incredibly impressed with the new TWC HD themes and setups. In my opinion, the new graphics and sets really makes you see how god awful the old graphics were (which I always hated to begin with).

I love you TWC HD. :)
/me , not having read a single thread in this subforum :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: LFMusicFan on June 05, 2008, 06:32:00 PM
2) Is it me, or is the text on the maps hard to read for you SDers? I just switched over to the SD feed, and especially on the projector maps, the text was really blurry.
Yeah, I noticed that. I had to strain my eyes to read the city names.

I've noticed that the letter boxing only appears when they show footage from outside the studio (see above images), and it disappears when the OCMs in the studio are shown. However the black on the top and bottom of the screen remains in both situations.

You're referring to pillar boxing (i.e., the bars on the left and right). The black bars on the top and bottom are letterboxes.
Whoops. Yeah, that'a what I meant. :wall:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 05, 2008, 11:17:11 PM
At 11:14 PM ET, they showed a Road Crew segment that what was filmed in HD, and shown in HD, too. The sticking point was that all the graphics were cutoff the screen. These segments were designed to be shown letterboxed on the SD channel, methinks.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2008, 11:24:39 PM
They showed that one during regular EE, as well. Even for the HD feed, they used pillar boxes and completely cut off the graphics. Apparently the right hand isn't talking to the left in terms of these Road Crew segments.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 06, 2008, 12:07:37 AM
When they're using the video wall, they really need to make sure the map titlebars fit on the screen for SD viewers. I can't count how many times this week I've seen things like "IDAY'S FORECAST" or "UNDERSTORM FORECAST."

Either (a) they need to set up a preset range that the camera can safely operate inside, or (b) they need to move the map titlebars closer to the center of the graphic.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 06, 2008, 12:15:07 AM
At 11:14 PM ET, they showed a Road Crew segment that what was filmed in HD, and shown in HD, too. The sticking point was that all the graphics were cutoff the screen. These segments were designed to be shown letterboxed on the SD channel, methinks.
When they re-aired this segment at 12:14 AM ET, it was letterboxed on the SD channel.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 06, 2008, 12:43:09 AM
When they're using the video wall, they really need to make sure the map titlebars fit on the screen for SD viewers. I can't count how many times this week I've seen things like "IDAY'S FORECAST" or "UNDERSTORM FORECAST."

Either (a) they need to set up a preset range that the camera can safely operate inside, or (b) they need to move the map titlebars closer to the center of the graphic.

They did that on the projector, too?

I've only known of them doing that on the key wall until now.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 06, 2008, 04:07:38 AM
Re: The cut off sides on the 4:3 telecast. I compared the view of the SD channel on LCD TV and my old-fashioned CRT; and it looked fine on the LCD but cut off on the CRT. It looks like they're positioning the cameras without regard to the safe zone. You could only properly view that broadcast of EEWC if you could see the full overscan area.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 06, 2008, 04:23:01 AM
Oh, I also meant to add that the precip forecast maps shown at the top of the hour were completely out of whack. They didn't match up with any of the weather patterns in the coming days. The actual forecast icons were correct, though.

Oh, and the city indicators are still gone from the Weekly Planner maps. I guess they realized how annoying they were.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 06, 2008, 07:59:35 AM
The recorded portions of EEWC last night were once again shown in letterboxed HD for the SD channel. The lone exception was any live weather updates they did, like at 1:10 AM ET, which were not letterboxed.

That also makes me wonder... if my STAR would've failed last night, which satellite LF would I have seen? SD or HD?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 06, 2008, 05:04:40 PM
Now they decided to use a pre-recorded teaser on PM Edition tonight. I wonder why it took them 4 days to make a teaser for PME when they were able to have one ready for A&B and EE the first night. :huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 06, 2008, 05:08:07 PM
The recorded portions of EEWC last night were once again shown in letterboxed HD for the SD channel. The lone exception was any live weather updates they did, like at 1:10 AM ET, which were not letterboxed.

That also makes me wonder... if my STAR would've failed last night, which satellite LF would I have seen? SD or HD?

You probably would've seen the SD satellite LF since that's still running live. A number of things would have to fail in order to see the HD LF; most notably, they'd have to actually be playing that back from the recording, and I'm not quite sure if that's normally done at all.

As for the PME teaser, I'm a bit disappointed that we'll never see the regular PME opener except on weekends and whenever they choose not to use the recorded teaser on weekdays. The new recorded teaser uses a watered-down version of the opener.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 07, 2008, 06:38:27 AM
I wonder if EEWC will go fully live for the first time in HD tonight; there's a lot of severe weather going on tonight.

Nope, but Sharon's using the projector wall, and Rich is using the key wall. Looks like Master can only use the projector wall for one OCM per broadcast.
Just a quick note, Master Control, and full control (X3) have the same abilities now.

If that's the case, why are Master-produced shows behaving the way they always have since June 2007? You can still pick out a Master-produced show like you could pick out a black sheep in a herd of 100 white sheep.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 07, 2008, 01:15:34 PM
So how come on EEWC, only one OCM can use the video wall and the other has to use the key wall?  :unsure: Because on EE or YWT, both OCMs can use the video wall.

I couldn't find the answer in this topic. If it's here, I'm obviously half asleep.  :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on June 07, 2008, 02:47:08 PM
So how come on EEWC, only one OCM can use the video wall and the other has to use the key wall?  :unsure: Because on EE or YWT, both OCMs can use the video wall.

I couldn't find the answer in this topic. If it's here, I'm obviously half asleep.  :P

yeah thats been brought up since day one, its because EEWC is master controlled, and apparently can only have one OCM use the video wall.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 07, 2008, 03:01:12 PM
So...they couldn't cue the (W)WC opener at 3....
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 07, 2008, 03:21:17 PM
Also, like Weekend Outlook this morning, they're using the LIVE tag right now. When will master control finally get the idea NOT to use that thing? :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 07, 2008, 04:43:56 PM
So...they couldn't cue the (W)WC opener at 3....

I noticed that!  :lol: There was a black screen with no music where the opener should have been, and I even turned on the TV, wanting to see the opener.  :rolleyes: Luckily, everything was fine for the second hour.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 07, 2008, 10:08:21 PM
I'm already liking the presentation of the weekend version better than the weekday version; there are a lot more wide shots of the studio and usage of different areas of the studio. I liked the way Kristin at the wall tossed to Adam at the LCD screen on the right to do the forecast for the South.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 08, 2008, 12:14:03 AM
I just heard Adam Berg refer to Viz|Weather 600. I haven't heard of that Vizrt unit until now.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 08, 2008, 12:18:42 AM
I just heard Adam Berg refer to Viz|Weather 600. I haven't heard of that Vizrt unit until now.

I should read all of the topics before posting... >_>
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 08, 2008, 12:21:01 AM
Now they're using the projector version of the Weekly Planner maps at the key wall, causing it to get cut off a little on the edges.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 08, 2008, 10:04:06 PM
For the first time this week, they're actually using a semi SD-friendly camera shot at the projector wall. It actually now looks like Adam us up at the key wall and not the projector wall. Sure, some parts of the maps are cut off, but everything is actually easy to read.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 08, 2008, 10:05:27 PM
What do you think about the cut-off content though? Do you think they should keep the camera shot and re-work the maps to make them more friendly to that shot? "That sounds like a plan" to me.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 08, 2008, 10:51:23 PM
For the first time this week, they're actually using a semi SD-friendly camera shot at the projector wall. It actually now looks like Adam us up at the key wall and not the projector wall. Sure, some parts of the maps are cut off, but everything is actually easy to read.
That's much better. I had a difficult time seeing the maps before.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 09, 2008, 12:13:55 AM
Hey, "you guys," it looks like Master figured out how to use both sides of the projector screen tonight. I wonder if we'll see this for all editions of EEWC from now on.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 09, 2008, 06:27:18 PM
I just noticed this during one of Julie Martin's live reports: The square things on the microphones (they have a name, I forget that they're called at the moment) now have  the TWC logo on two sides and the |HD| logo on the other two alternating sides.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 09, 2008, 08:03:56 PM
I just noticed this during one of Julie Martin's live reports: The square things on the microphones (they have a name, I forget that they're called at the moment) now have  the TWC logo on two sides and the |HD| logo on the other two alternating sides.
It looks like all mics have not received the update. :P Jorma Duran's mic from his live shots tonight in Wisconsin does not have the |HD| sides.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 09, 2008, 08:29:23 PM
I just noticed this during one of Julie Martin's live reports: The square things on the microphones (they have a name, I forget that they're called at the moment) now have  the TWC logo on two sides and the |HD| logo on the other two alternating sides.

They're called mic flags. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 10, 2008, 02:15:25 AM
Strange. Watching the 2 AM ET rebroadcast and some of Julie Martin's recorded shots were in HD, but others were in SD with the |HD| pillarbox bars on the sides of the screen.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 10, 2008, 02:31:22 AM
Strange. Watching the 2 AM ET rebroadcast and some of Julie Martin's recorded shots were in HD, but others were in SD with the |HD| pillarbox bars on the sides of the screen.

You're up late. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 11, 2008, 06:18:16 AM
I was just watching the end of yesterday morning's FO, and to paraphrase Jen...

"We've been over [in the HD studio] rehearsing, so you should see us in HD pretty soon."

Interesting, I would assume FO rehearsals means that they're within 2-3 weeks of going HD, and I wouldn't be surprised if they go HD even before Weekend View; perhaps it could be as early as Monday.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 11, 2008, 09:50:23 PM
I wonder what the last show to move into the HD will be? My guess is Weather Center. It was the first show that is still around to broadcast from the old studio, and I think it very well could be the last, too.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 11, 2008, 10:10:44 PM
I'd say either Weekend Outlook or Weather Center, seeing how they were one of the last to have their graphics changed in 2005 and they are likely the least popular to this day.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 11, 2008, 10:52:33 PM
Yeah, Weekend Outlook is probably furthest down on the TWC **** list, so either that show or WC will probably be last.

Look at the terrible graphics work (that's not even done yet) for Weekend Outlook; that might be an indication.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 11, 2008, 11:15:54 PM
Yeah, Weekend Outlook is probably furthest down on the TWC **** list, so either that show or WC will probably be last.

Look at the terrible graphics work (that's not even done yet) for Weekend Outlook; that might be an indication.
Not to mention the non-4:3 safe WO opener - apparently, Weekend Outlook is now "Weekend Outloo" for SD viewers. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 11, 2008, 11:27:09 PM
Crap, I forgot to tell Chris about that. I should get that sent by tomorrow (but probably won't see action until the weekend afterward at the earliest).
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on June 15, 2008, 08:23:32 AM
Crap, I forgot to tell Chris about that. I should get that sent by tomorrow (but probably won't see action until the weekend afterward at the earliest).
How often to do bug this guy exactly?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on June 15, 2008, 11:59:36 AM
Crap, I forgot to tell Chris about that. I should get that sent by tomorrow (but probably won't see action until the weekend afterward at the earliest).
How often to do bug this guy exactly?

Often enough to know each other by first name apparently.  :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 16, 2008, 07:00:54 PM
And now, it's time for Abrams and Bettes in HD!

And they use a third different configuration...with a flattened globe in the background.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 16, 2008, 07:02:38 PM
Yep, remember how we speculated that the "Work Desk" might be used as a set? That's exactly what they're using for A&B!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 16, 2008, 07:04:44 PM
Boy oh boy, though.  That desk works really well as a set.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 16, 2008, 07:08:07 PM
Boy oh boy, though.  That desk works really well as a set.

I agree; it has the cozy feel of their old set with the small desk and the map behind it combined with the stunning appearance of HD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 16, 2008, 07:33:50 PM
I really like the map backdrop used behind that desk. It reminds me of the backdrop that was used back in early 1999, which looked quite similar to this new one.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 16, 2008, 07:42:00 PM
That studio looks awesome!! It's huge and spacious!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYCTWCjunkie on June 16, 2008, 08:40:05 PM
I didn't catch Abrams & Bettes at the beginning (storms coming through my area).
But from any glimpses I saw (not the work desk set you guys are talking about)... very nice!

One word of advice for the both of them, but especially Stephanie... slow the hell down!
You're talking a mile a friggin' minute! A little overdose of the coffee?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 16, 2008, 09:27:19 PM
If anyone didn't see the first few minutes of Abrams & Bettes tonight in the new studio (cough, cough me), I have it on tape and can upload it. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 16, 2008, 09:48:34 PM
If anyone didn't see the first few minutes of Abrams & Bettes tonight in the new studio (cough, cough me), I have it on tape and can upload it. :yes:
That'd be great!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on June 17, 2008, 12:47:33 AM
yeah. that would be awesome!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 17, 2008, 08:34:53 AM
Alright, here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ9s3L7ugBs) is it. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 17, 2008, 05:54:31 PM
Do we know if the real Titan HD can not be twirled and tilted like Skytracker could be?

(This comes after seeing too many maps turned and twisted the last couple of days.)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 17, 2008, 07:29:40 PM
I just saw a promo for tomorrow's YWT, and I don't know if it was in HD or not. It was not letterboxed on the SD feed.  :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: rymich13 on June 17, 2008, 08:20:24 PM
mine is never letterboxed I have the sd feed also, I have an old tv from 2003, tis a old fashioned analog one. I am buying a new hd one though in august or september.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 18, 2008, 02:04:28 AM
I just saw a promo for tomorrow's YWT, and I don't know if it was in HD or not. It was not letterboxed on the SD feed.  :unsure:
Nope, it wasn't HD, which is surprising considering you'd think they'd want to promote the whole HD image.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 18, 2008, 05:30:07 PM
Not sure if this has been pointed out before, but has anyone noticed that Evening Edition and EEWC's openers are a bit different? EEWC's opener doesn't have that nighttime city background, and the logo is a bit "tilted."
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 18, 2008, 05:47:09 PM
Not sure if this has been pointed out before, but has anyone noticed that Evening Edition and EEWC's openers are a bit different? EEWC's opener doesn't have that nighttime city background, and the logo is a bit "tilted."
Lately, EEWC has been using a different opener that doesn't transition out like the EE opener does, as master control seems to have trouble using those types of transitions.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 18, 2008, 06:09:18 PM
Not sure if this has been pointed out before, but has anyone noticed that Evening Edition and EEWC's openers are a bit different? EEWC's opener doesn't have that nighttime city background, and the logo is a bit "tilted."

Correct. They're pulled off the transitional effect from the normal opener successfully very rarely in the past...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 18, 2008, 07:01:51 PM
So according to Stephanie Abrams, the A&B studio is designated as Studio 9.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 18, 2008, 07:52:06 PM
9?!?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 18, 2008, 07:54:39 PM
9?!?
Yes, unless I misunderstood; that's what Stephanie said at the beginning of the show tonight.

And speaking of Stephanie, she said she is a bit under the weather tonight. She has a cold, and you can hear it in her voice. Before the last two commercial breaks, you could see her turn around and grab a tissue.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 18, 2008, 07:56:46 PM
Just as long as the main studio isn't 6, we have absolutely nothing to worry about.   :shades:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 18, 2008, 10:12:14 PM
Do we know if the real Titan HD can not be twirled and tilted like Skytracker could be?

(This comes after seeing too many maps turned and twisted the last couple of days.)
Jim Cantore just answered that question. Yes!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on June 19, 2008, 01:36:30 PM
It makes sence that there is 9.  Didn't some article, somewhere mention that there were 11 different sets (..well, depends on the difference of what they are calling a "set" and a "studio"  :hmm: )
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 22, 2008, 09:03:33 AM
Anyone else notice that Weekend Outlook and Weekend View have the same theme? Here's the WO opener: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeWq8velP4c and the Weekend View teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo_ppOV56go&feature=related
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on June 22, 2008, 10:11:06 AM
Anyone else notice that Weekend Outlook and Weekend View have the same theme? Here's the WO opener: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeWq8velP4c[/url] and the Weekend View teaser: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo_ppOV56go&feature=related[/url]

Interesting.  They do

I wonder why that is?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 22, 2008, 11:01:24 AM
It also seems that Weekend Now has that same theme as well.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jae on June 22, 2008, 07:57:45 PM
A couple of things that are bugging me regarding the HD launch. It appears as if the L3RDS have trouble animating in. Anyone else noticed that? Also, it's sure as hell taking awhile for me to get used to the idea of  using giant screens rather than chromakey walls. IMO, the screens (or maps, either/or) are always off-center, esp. during EEWC. Either it's my SD TV, or the camera operator is not doing too well.  :wacko: IMO, everything else in that studio is BEAUTIFUL BEYOND WORDS!! I cannot wait until the entire channel broadcasts from that studio one day. I don't know about you guys, but I am getting SO SICK of Studio 1A, I am about to scream! Maybe it's just my OCD'ness, but the mis-matching backdrops is also bugging the heck out of me! :P  The new graphics to EACH and every show are beautiful, however just like in the recent past, I do not feel as if they are using the new graphics to their full potential. Same thing with music, IMO. TWC still has a terrible addiction to the overusage of production library music, making the new show music broadcast a rarity. The new music of this era is alright, but I feel as if it is very repetitive, kind of like the 03-05 music...don't you guys see a similarity? (Repetition, similar musical signatures, etc.)  I think that the new OCM pairings are great as well, but I wish that they would fix up the non-alignment in the new HD studio as far as the map screens are concerned. Once that problem is fixed, everything will look fantastic.  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 23, 2008, 12:19:48 AM
I was just watching the end of yesterday morning's FO, and to paraphrase Jen...

"We've been over [in the HD studio] rehearsing, so you should see us in HD pretty soon."

Interesting, I would assume FO rehearsals means that they're within 2-3 weeks of going HD, and I wouldn't be surprised if they go HD even before Weekend View; perhaps it could be as early as Monday.
I wonder if we could see FO in the HD studio tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on June 23, 2008, 03:00:26 AM
Jae, I agree with the whole TV screen thing.  I'd prefer the key wall over that :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 23, 2008, 10:20:42 AM
Jae, I agree with the whole TV screen thing.  I'd prefer the key wall over that :yes:
Same here. It's really hard for me to see some of the text on the video wall.

Also, as you said Jae, they need to stop with the production music and on the fly openers and use the music and graphics that came with the actual show package. I was hoping they'd stop doing this on the June 2 relaunch, but I was wrong.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 23, 2008, 10:37:11 AM
Jae, I agree with the whole TV screen thing.  I'd prefer the key wall over that :yes:
Same here. It's really hard for me to see some of the text on the video wall.

Also, as you said Jae, they need to stop with the production music and on the fly openers and use the music and graphics that came with the actual show package. I was hoping they'd stop doing this on the June 2 relaunch, but I was wrong.
I've noticed that they seem to actually be using the on the fly openers even more now than they have before. :wacko:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 23, 2008, 10:58:59 AM
Even worse, they seem to have only one blue on-the-fly opener for every show now. It would be better if they'd at least make several of them that match each of the show's graphics, kind of like the on the fly openers Evening Edition had up until early 2007.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 23, 2008, 11:23:34 AM
Last night, they even used an on-the-fly opener with the sound effect that they used to use with the 07-08 ones. that brings back bad memories... >_<
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 23, 2008, 12:03:45 PM
I saw a new HD commercial advertising how the inside of their studio looks
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 23, 2008, 06:02:07 PM
So now we know where Samantha Mohr and Betty Davis are tonight: they're rehearsing in the HD studio for PM Edition's HD premiere next Monday.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 23, 2008, 06:02:40 PM
Mike Seidel just mentioned that Betty and Samantha are off all week, and they will be in HD next week. :yes:

Too late... :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Thecoolwriter on June 23, 2008, 06:08:12 PM
He surely is too late
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 23, 2008, 06:47:05 PM
Is First Outlook in HD yet?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 23, 2008, 06:48:00 PM
Is First Outlook in HD yet?
Nope. They were still in SD this morning.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 23, 2008, 09:21:03 PM
Is First Outlook in HD yet?
Nope. They were still in SD this morning.

Billy, stop lying. :P  :footinmouth:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 24, 2008, 06:05:14 PM
I really wish the morning lower thirds during weekends were different than the weekday morning ones. The weekend ones should a mix of yellow and blue or something.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 24, 2008, 06:28:13 PM
Billy, stop lying. :P  :footinmouth:
Huh? I saw FO this morning and they were in SD. :huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 24, 2008, 07:42:02 PM
Looks like the Global Forecast has been relaunched - new graphics, but it still uses the same music they've used since 2005.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 24, 2008, 08:02:13 PM
Looks like the Global Forecast has been relaunched - new graphics, but it still uses the same music they've used since 2005.
Yeah, I saw it yesterday. I like it.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 25, 2008, 12:11:38 AM
Any idea if or when we'll see new :57 station ID graphics/music? Maybe when the HD STAR is released?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 25, 2008, 05:46:32 AM
I didn't see the Global Forecast with music. :( When I saw it, they just did it silently.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 25, 2008, 09:31:40 PM
Tonight on EE they're using a different titlebar for the Titan HD radar products.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 25, 2008, 10:44:46 PM
Tonight on EE they're using a different titlebar for the Titan HD radar products.

I noticed that; it was used on A&B too. I wonder why they changed it. :unsure:

I truthfully don't like Titan radar. :no: The severe weather "polygons" and even the radar are under the state borders.

Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 26, 2008, 12:57:40 AM
Anyone have a shot of this?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 26, 2008, 01:10:08 AM
Anyone have a shot of this?

Yes.

(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6155/newtitanbarzx5.jpg)

(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2633/newtitanbar2ng9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on June 26, 2008, 10:45:11 AM
Looking at that top pic I'd say that Adam's been hanging around Dave too long.  :lol: :rofl2:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 26, 2008, 10:52:53 AM
Looks like they're using it on all shows now. I like it, its much more closer to the banners used on most of the other maps.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 26, 2008, 10:59:20 AM
I wonder what the last show to move into the HD will be? My guess is Weather Center. It was the first show that is still around to broadcast from the old studio, and I think it very well could be the last, too.
Do you guys think Day Planner may go HD around the same as Weekend View? I say this because the same OCM's that host WV host DP certain days of the week. And in that case, Weekend Now may go HD that same time as well.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 26, 2008, 12:44:02 PM
Do you guys think Day Planner may go HD around the same as Weekend View? I say this because the same OCM's that host WV host DP certain days of the week. And in that case, Weekend Now may go HD that same time as well.
It'll probably go HD once both Weekend View and Weekend Now have. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 26, 2008, 02:18:07 PM
So I'm going to stick this here...since it happened during YWT this morning.  Apparently, in the 8:10ET block, the feed went crazy and then turned off...leaving the LDL running over a black screen.  The local commercials came on, then went back to black.  The Local (normal music too) started without the IStar local (just the LDL with the Sat), then everything was back to normal.

First time seeing the new Sat graphics live...it looks freaking awesome.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 27, 2008, 06:32:20 PM
Did anyone see ESPN's coverage of the NBA draft last night? Their graphics for the player profiles looked almost just like TWC's new map graphics.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 27, 2008, 07:11:47 PM
Did anyone see ESPN's coverage of the NBA draft last night? Their graphics for the player profiles looked almost just like TWC's new map graphics.
Nope. Anyone got any screenshots?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 27, 2008, 08:27:18 PM
Nope, sorry, but the title bars had the exact same metallic appearance with the triangular cut-off edges. I'm surprised they couldn't do something original. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 27, 2008, 08:29:04 PM
On another note, they've also made new, slightly modified ads for YWT and EE. In one of them, the couple on the couch from that HD Vision video is watching EE instead of the HD LF on their TV.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 27, 2008, 08:29:40 PM
Did anyone see ESPN's coverage of the NBA draft last night? Their graphics for the player profiles looked almost just like TWC's new map graphics.
Nope. Anyone got any screenshots?
No, but I do have a number for a good psychologist for Spring, though.  Something's gotta be screwed up up there.   :lol:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 27, 2008, 08:38:54 PM
Awww... :(
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on June 28, 2008, 11:12:17 AM
Did anyone see ESPN's coverage of the NBA draft last night? Their graphics for the player profiles looked almost just like TWC's new map graphics.
Nope. Anyone got any screenshots?

Yes i would of got screenshots if my camera wasn't dead  <_<
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on June 29, 2008, 11:34:46 PM
They've changed up the EE LF open... looks nicer. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 29, 2008, 11:36:27 PM
They've changed up the EE LF open... looks nicer. :yes:
YWT's has changed as well.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 30, 2008, 10:25:57 AM
Today, a new Abrams & Bettes Local On The 8s opener appeared.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on June 30, 2008, 10:58:20 AM
Today, a new Abrams & Bettes Local On The 8s opener appeared.
And to add to that, a new 15-second ad for A&B is now showing.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 30, 2008, 02:04:49 PM
I have yet to see some of these new openers and ads. Does someone mind recording them?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 30, 2008, 05:02:14 PM
Ooh, they've got the PME desk rotated 180 degrees from the YWT/EE position, putting the couch and a city background behind the desk. Sexy!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 30, 2008, 05:02:53 PM
Eh.  PM Edition's set is ok.

Except for the fact that Sam Mohr is almost cut off for SD peoples.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 30, 2008, 05:04:27 PM
Ooh, they've got the PME desk rotated 180 degrees from the YWT/EE position, putting the couch and a city background behind the desk. Sexy!
I'm liking it! :twothumbs:

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Except for the fact that Sam Mohr is almost cut off for SD peoples.
Not here. :unsure:

Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 30, 2008, 05:14:08 PM
They've also got the wall lights blue instead of purple, don't they?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on June 30, 2008, 05:31:21 PM
PM Edition's studio is "Studio 9" according to Sam. I like it.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on June 30, 2008, 05:32:01 PM
Also, the music on the opener for PME has changed. I liked the original version better.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 30, 2008, 05:39:37 PM
@Mike: Apparently the whole HD studio is Studio 9 because A&B also are in Studio 9. I don't really understand the numbering.

@Stephen: I think that may be an error. I don't think they've successfully played the opener theme at all today by accident.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYCTWCjunkie on June 30, 2008, 05:45:05 PM
I saw PM Edition made its debut in high definition. I loved the opening camera shot with the beautiful studio backdrop!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 30, 2008, 09:13:46 PM
Ooh, they've got the PME desk rotated 180 degrees from the YWT/EE position, putting the couch and a city background behind the desk. Sexy!

Unfortunately, I didn't see PM Edition today. Do you mind posting a video?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 30, 2008, 10:22:26 PM
No problem.

http://c.imagehost.org/download/0809/PME20080630-4pm.avi
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 01, 2008, 12:54:57 AM
Now that all three of the evening shows have transitioned to HD, we'll no longer see the EE backdrops in the old studio anymore.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 01, 2008, 04:01:33 AM
Now that all three of the evening shows have transitioned to HD, we'll no longer see the EE backdrops in the old studio anymore.

That's very true. Farewell, old backdrop!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 01, 2008, 04:00:53 PM
No problem.

[url]http://c.imagehost.org/download/0809/PME20080630-4pm.avi[/url]


Thanks for the video, Steve! :)

Hmmm...I don't know if I like the setup though.  :thinking:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: ABC7 on July 01, 2008, 04:17:55 PM
I tried downloading the video, but it's only audio.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 01, 2008, 04:18:45 PM
I tried downloading the video, but it's only audio.

You need to install the DivX codec: http://www.divx.com/ :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 01, 2008, 05:01:01 PM
PM Edition used a pre-recorded teaser today, and it used the correct opener music.

Hmm, Samantha is using the chroma key today... :huh:

EDIT: Betty is, too.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 01, 2008, 05:04:10 PM
Interesting, Betty is using the key wall right now.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 01, 2008, 05:04:56 PM
Interesting, Betty is using the key wall right now.
Both Betty and Samantha have been using the key wall so far in the show. I wonder why. :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 01, 2008, 05:14:52 PM
This is weird. The corner PM Edition bug has also been frozen the whole show so far.

EDIT: They're standing way too close to the camera; they look way too big, especially on 4:3 TVs.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 01, 2008, 06:05:30 PM
Maybe the lights at the video projection wall have burnt out already.

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EDIT: They're standing way too close to the camera; they look way too big, especially on 4:3 TVs.
I've noticed that. It looks like there right here in my room.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 01, 2008, 07:01:40 PM
They're using the projectors on A&B. Wonder why they couldn't use them on PME... :wacko:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 01, 2008, 07:07:27 PM
This better not be permanent. The show looks better with the projector wall.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 01, 2008, 07:08:42 PM
This better not be permanent. The show looks better with the projector wall.
I'd have to disagree. The projector walls still look horrific in SD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 01, 2008, 07:17:03 PM
Both Betty and Samantha have been using the key wall so far in the show. I wonder why. :unsure:

Isn't the key wall located near where the PM Edition desk is set up? Maybe it's closer to get to than the projector wall. :unsure: That's probably a crazy thought.

I'd have to disagree. The projector walls still look horrific in SD.

I like the projector walls, but there is not enough light and in SD, some items still get cut off.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on July 01, 2008, 08:41:55 PM
I don't like the key-walls--at all.  They seem too small, and the camera seems right in front of them.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 01, 2008, 09:32:51 PM
The PME desk is essentially in the same place it always is; it's just rotated.

The key walls aren't good in the HD studio, pretty much because of what wxmediafan said. Earlier tonight, Sam wasn't respecting safe zones whatsoever and was standing completely in the 16:9-only zone on the right side of the screen.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 01, 2008, 10:53:28 PM
:offtopic:

Are there pre-recorded teasers on YWT? And is it always Heather giving the live teaser? :unsure: On videos I've seen of YWT, there is a live teaser with Heather only.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 01, 2008, 10:55:29 PM
:offtopic:

Are there pre-recorded teasers on YWT? And is it always Heather giving the live teaser? :unsure: On videos I've seen of YWT, there is a live teaser with Heather only.
No, the teasers are live on YWT. Not sure about who does the teasers - I don't see YWT that often.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 01, 2008, 11:01:21 PM
I like live teasers. The recorded ones distort the sound of the OCM's voices.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 01, 2008, 11:02:33 PM
:offtopic:

Are there pre-recorded teasers on YWT? And is it always Heather giving the live teaser? :unsure: On videos I've seen of YWT, there is a live teaser with Heather only.
No, the teasers are live on YWT. Not sure about who does the teasers - I don't see YWT that often.

It seems like Heather does them every day; she has done them every day I've watched.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 01, 2008, 11:08:49 PM
I'd have to disagree. The projector walls still look horrific in SD.
Indeed, they need to ditch the video wall for the maps and go back to chromakeys. Some of the maps are hard to see on the video wall.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 01, 2008, 11:20:15 PM
I've always wondered if those teases were live. Though, I figured out once they started waiting so long after the opening is over and let the video freeze while the person doing the tease (usually Heather) sits down.

Also, looks what happens when you use live teasers. I'd pay to see this on TWC:
(CAUTION: Language)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYAMDhVT50I

HAHA.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: ABC7 on July 01, 2008, 11:23:10 PM
They'd pay too.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 02, 2008, 01:10:58 AM
Something looks wrong with the projector wall tonight; it's way too blue.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 02, 2008, 04:45:36 AM
The HD feed is getting a little wonky right now. The pillar bars are completely gone right now, and during the last LF, the Severe Weather Warnings page had a frame and a title bar, but inside the frame, it was completely black - no map or anything - just blackness.

Oh, and not only is there new FO theme music, but the opener has also been changed to the blue and orange color scheme of the WO opener as opposed to the all-orange look.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on July 02, 2008, 11:38:31 AM
I saw the PM Edition for the first time yesterday.  Kind of reminded me of a news set.  I kinda liked it :D  :twothumbs:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 03, 2008, 12:29:14 AM
The projector wall is looking almost unwatchably blue now...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 03, 2008, 12:41:29 AM
The projector wall is looking almost unwatchably blue now...
Looks the same shade of blue it looked like yesterday evening to me. :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 03, 2008, 12:45:43 AM
It probably is; it's just getting really annoying.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 03, 2008, 01:01:38 AM
It probably is; it's just getting really annoying.
And this, my friend, is why I like the chroma key better than the video projector wall. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 03, 2008, 08:31:43 AM
If they'd fix the projector wall, and everyone were able to watch the HD feed, it would all be good. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 03, 2008, 10:48:15 AM
During YWT this morning, they did a teaser going to break with Heather standing in front of the LCD monitor in the interview area that now serves as the background for the PME anchors. She was using the monitor that's just off to the right of the normal PME 2-person shot, but all of the lights except for the key lights on Heather were off. It looked pretty neat; I think we're starting to see more and more of the cool shots they can do with the new studio.

On another note, I'm wondering if the couch is ready yet since it's obviously not in the studio during PME or YWT. Either the couch can be removed when not in use, or it's not in place yet. The Weekend View HD premiere is only one weekend away, so you'd think it's probably in place for rehearsals by now.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 03, 2008, 11:40:52 AM
Was bored so I made this:

[img removed by Billy... see updated graphic on next page]

Are all my labels correct?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 03, 2008, 11:42:22 AM
A&B is in the expert desk, not at the TWC LCD display. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 03, 2008, 11:51:36 AM
A&B is in the expert desk, not at the TWC LCD display. ;)


D'oh!  :doh2:

I guess I should've double checked the studio tour before I made this.

(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3009/hdstudiolabelsrev2fm3.png)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: ABC7 on July 03, 2008, 02:00:16 PM
Did they redo their HD studio tour? I went there a week ago and it was different.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 03, 2008, 02:07:47 PM
I don't trust that the big TWC logo is an LCD display; I know the tour claims it is, but the pictures on the site seem to make it out to be a static image.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 03, 2008, 03:09:02 PM
During YWT this morning, they did a teaser going to break with Heather standing in front of the LCD monitor in the interview area that now serves as the background for the PME anchors. She was using the monitor that's just off to the right of the normal PME 2-person shot, but all of the lights except for the key lights on Heather were off. It looked pretty neat; I think we're starting to see more and more of the cool shots they can do with the new studio.

That sounds neat. :yes: Do have a screenshot? And does YWT have the same setup as PME now? :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 03, 2008, 03:19:36 PM
And does YWT have the same setup as PME now? :unsure:
No, it was just for that shot.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 03, 2008, 05:29:53 PM
Nope, I didn't record; sorry. :(
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 03, 2008, 11:25:37 PM
They just did a "Tennis Tournament Forecast" opener with the PME music. Interesting...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 04, 2008, 11:39:45 AM
I don't trust that the big TWC logo is an LCD display; I know the tour claims it is, but the pictures on the site seem to make it out to be a static image.

Speaking of the LCD display, I have another question. When TWC shows the radar, a live report from Jorma Duran, or perhaps a WeatherREADY segment, are we viewing this from the LCD display?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 04, 2008, 01:24:32 PM
I don't trust that the big TWC logo is an LCD display; I know the tour claims it is, but the pictures on the site seem to make it out to be a static image.

Speaking of the LCD display, I have another question. When TWC shows the radar, a live report from Jorma Duran, or perhaps a WeatherREADY segment, are we viewing this from the LCD display?

What do you mean by that? I'm confused.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 04, 2008, 01:43:29 PM
Speaking of the LCD display, I have another question. When TWC shows the radar, a live report from Jorma Duran, or perhaps a WeatherREADY segment, are we viewing this from the LCD display?
No, those segments take up the entire screen. They don't use the LCD display for that.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 04, 2008, 01:50:39 PM
Let me simplify the question. What is the LCD display used for?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 04, 2008, 02:05:57 PM
Let me simplify the question. What is the LCD display used for?

Which LCD display? You seem to speak of a singular LCD display; there are a whole bunch of them in the studio.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 04, 2008, 03:01:01 PM
According to Wikipedia, First Outlook is slated to go HD on Monday. Has that been confirmed?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 04, 2008, 03:02:40 PM
I have no clue. I wish someone would've watched this morning... :(
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 04, 2008, 03:25:58 PM
I have no clue. I wish someone would've watched this morning... :(
This is where you're gonna hate me.  I was watching this morning before I went to work...but it was off at 6:50.   <_<
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 04, 2008, 03:31:45 PM
I was thinking Weekend Outlook would go HD first, seeing how some of the people on WO fill in on First Outlook. If First Outlook were to go HD first, and if fill-ins were needed, the fill-ins wouldn't be familiar with the video wall. So if First Outlook is slated to go HD on Monday, then it's likely that Weekend Outlook will be in HD this weekend.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 04, 2008, 03:43:40 PM
I think they prefer to go by ratings; if anything, Weekend Outlook look probably be last, in competition with WC and DP.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 04, 2008, 03:47:14 PM
Which LCD display? You seem to speak of a singular LCD display; there are a whole bunch of them in the studio.

Doh! :wall: Sorry. I'm talking about the LCD Display in the side room, the one with the TWC logo and cloud background.

And my question is what is it used for? :unsure: For example, if we see a radar but with no OCM in front of it, is a camera zoomed in on this LCD display in the side room?  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 04, 2008, 04:10:31 PM
Which LCD display? You seem to speak of a singular LCD display; there are a whole bunch of them in the studio.

Doh! :wall: Sorry. I'm talking about the LCD Display in the side room, the one with the TWC logo and cloud background.

And my question is what is it used for? :unsure: For example, if we see a radar but with no OCM in front of it, is a camera zoomed in on this LCD display in the side room?  :dunno:

No, in that case, the radar source would be fed directly through the feed without any camera usage whatsoever. Like I said, I'm not yet convinced that the big TWC logo and cloud backdrop is an LCD screen. That logo and backdrop were there from the minute they installed the piece.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 05, 2008, 06:06:40 PM
Now that all three of the evening shows have transitioned to HD, we'll no longer see the EE backdrops in the old studio anymore.

That's very true. Farewell, old backdrop!
Well, it's not quite time to bid farewell to the old EE backdrop - as apparently PM Edition Weekend is still in SD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 07, 2008, 07:08:33 AM
Huh, Heather is off today, so instead of Marshall doing a live teaser, he did a recorded teaser solo despite the fact that Nicole is also anchoring. What was odd, however, is that unlike all of the other recorded teasers, the opener for YWT was still done live instead of as a part of the teaser package.

It looks like their normal floor director is also off today. Speaking of which, it seems that only the high priority shows (YWT/A&B/EE) are using a floor director; the other shows are done just like in the old studio with directions coming only from the director in the earpiece and the countdown lights on the cameras. EEWC started out with a floor director, but I think they might have phased that out by now. I think I remember Kyle saying something about having extra staff on hand for the first week in HD.

EDIT: Despite it being Monday, they still called Eboni Deon in to work as Travel Analyst. Even if Cheryl Lemke had experience in the HD studio, I still would wonder if they would put her on YWT. Is she too "matronly and dowdy" to be allowed on the show?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 07, 2008, 08:03:08 AM
After having problems with the aforementioned teaser in the first hour, they completely dropped it for the second hour and went straight to the opener. I wonder what they'll do for the third hour, but I'll never know because I'll be sleeping. Good night (or morning), all!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 07, 2008, 09:36:27 AM
After having problems with the aforementioned teaser in the first hour, they completely dropped it for the second hour and went straight to the opener. I wonder what they'll do for the third hour, but I'll never know because I'll be sleeping. Good night (or morning), all!
Yeah, they just went straight to the opener at 8 AM CT as well.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 07, 2008, 05:22:09 PM
I just noticed that there is a gray TWC logo in the area behind the PME set.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 07, 2008, 05:26:29 PM
I just noticed that there is a gray TWC logo in the area behind the PME set.
There's two of them, actually. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 07, 2008, 08:03:57 PM
I just noticed that there is a gray TWC logo in the area behind the PME set.
There's two of them, actually. :yes:

Yeah, but I don't really like them. :no: Why are they grey?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on July 07, 2008, 08:26:24 PM
looks like the rest of the remaining SD shows and their dates to go HD have been posted on Wikipedia:

Weekend View (July 12, 2008)
Weekend Now (July 26, 2008)
Day Planner (July 28, 2008)
Weather Center (July 28, 2008)
Weekend Weather Center (August 2, 2008)
PM Edition Weekend (August 2, 2008)
Weekend Outlook (August 16, 2008)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on July 07, 2008, 08:30:45 PM
so most likely beta testing for the new STAR will start mid August?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 07, 2008, 08:33:41 PM
I wonder what the source on that timeline is, but it does sound pretty feasible.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 07, 2008, 08:43:42 PM
So if that schedule is accurate, Mark Mancuso may be one of the last anchors to use studio 1A.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 07, 2008, 08:56:05 PM
That would be quite fitting if he winds up working the final broadcast in there; yeah, they've only been there since 1997, but he's still the older of the two longest tenured OCMs.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 07, 2008, 10:45:10 PM
I was going to mention that. Indeed that would be very fitting..  :sunglasses:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 07, 2008, 10:50:07 PM
Then again, he might even pull a fast one on us and retire before that; he's really cut his schedule back to the point that he only seems to appear on TV once every 2-4 weeks.

On another subject, do you guys think that something has always looked weird about those light panels behind the desk between the three computers; they don't quite look at crisp as the rest of the lights on the set, and sometimes they even look so grainy that it looks like there's moisture trapped in them.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 07, 2008, 11:02:15 PM
Rich is by himself tonight on EEWC. This is the first time anyone's gone solo in the HD studio, right?

edit: dang it, Stephen (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,32.msg50277.html#msg50277). :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 07, 2008, 11:04:06 PM
I was coming here for that as well, but I was too busy watching. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 07, 2008, 11:16:21 PM
I wonder what the source on that timeline is, but it does sound pretty feasible.
Indeed, but we can't know for sure unless a source is put up, so I put a "citation needed" template in that section until I find a source.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on July 07, 2008, 11:17:32 PM
so most likely beta testing for the new STAR will start mid August?

who ever mentioned anything about the HD Star? :unsure: ...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on July 08, 2008, 11:53:26 AM
i was thinking about that if all the shows are all in HD by then
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 08, 2008, 05:07:24 PM
The only sad part about Studio 1A going away is that we won't get to see what we saw during the 3 PM CT hour: Dr. Heidi Cullen walking behind the desk. I should've gotten my shotgun ready.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 08, 2008, 05:19:27 PM
The only sad part about Studio 1A going away is that we won't get to see what we saw during the 3 PM CT hour: Dr. Heidi Cullen walking behind the desk. I should've gotten my shotgun ready.
LOL!  Can you upload a clip of that?  I have the ABSOLUTE PERFECT mashup for that one.   :lol:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 08, 2008, 07:13:22 PM
I didn't record, sorry. :no:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 08, 2008, 07:25:45 PM
Drat.  I was going to make the absolute best parody of Duck Hunt, but alas.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 08, 2008, 10:45:11 PM
Is Weekend Outlook still showing the old Weekend Planner segment openers?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 08, 2008, 11:31:41 PM
Is Weekend Outlook still showing the old Weekend Planner segment openers?

Yep, apparently they care very little about the program. They'll probably deal with it when they have to deal with it. (HD launch day)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 09, 2008, 06:11:08 AM
The HD feed on DirecTV is on the fritz right now. For about the last five minutes, it has constantly been cutting in and out; right now, I'm staring at a black screen, and the channel won't even attempt to load. All of the other channels, including TWC SD, are fine right now.

EDIT: Now it just came back for like two seconds, froze, and went black again.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 09, 2008, 07:34:40 AM
This video's gone again, and the audio sounds garbled every few seconds.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 09, 2008, 12:40:32 PM
This video's gone again, and the audio sounds garbled every few seconds.
Have you checked the oil?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 09, 2008, 02:40:33 PM
That was the problem? I never thought it would be so simple. =O
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 09, 2008, 05:02:24 PM
We're back to the key walls for PME again today.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 09, 2008, 05:04:59 PM
We're back to the key walls for PME again today.
Are you sure? It looked like Sam was at the video wall, just they had the camera zoomed in way too far. :wacko:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 09, 2008, 05:09:14 PM
We're back to the key walls for PME again today.
Are you sure? It looked like Sam was at the video wall, just they had the camera zoomed in way too far. :wacko:

You're right; they had it zoomed in so far that you couldn't even see the wall's borders on the HD feed. That looked horrible in SD!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 09, 2008, 05:10:45 PM
Oh, on another note, it looks like there's more than one station ID now; they used a different lake scene this morning.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 09, 2008, 05:14:16 PM
Oh, on another note, it looks like there's more than one station ID now; they used a different lake scene this morning.
I'll have to look for that one. BTW, I thought of this last night: If we're now seeing HD station IDs, then that means the HD STAR could be right around the corner. Since HD satellite viewers currently don't use a STAR, the only ones that could take advantage of an HD station ID would be those with cable and an HD STAR.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 09, 2008, 06:56:11 PM
For the first time since the relaunch, "It's time to check in with Mike Bettes to find out what's coming up next on Abrams & Bettes"

The PME 3-person shot is really cool. Yes, it's recorded...video later.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on July 09, 2008, 07:12:29 PM
I don't know, this may have been mentioned before.  But, It seems that some OCM's use the tv monitor on the sides of the video wall to point, instead of straight at the video wall.  I find it interesting.  I think it'd probably be best if they did look at the camera monitors, just because some of the pointing is way off scale haha.

Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 10, 2008, 12:58:59 AM
They just now played the old stream station ID. That's not HD is it? I wouldn't think it would be; it's at least two plus years old now.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 10, 2008, 01:46:31 AM
I don't know, this may have been mentioned before.  But, It seems that some OCM's use the tv monitor on the sides of the video wall to point, instead of straight at the video wall.  I find it interesting.  I think it'd probably be best if they did look at the camera monitors, just because some of the pointing is way off scale haha.


There problaly isnt too high of a viewing angle on those screens, so maybe thats why.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 10, 2008, 02:12:18 AM
They just now played the old stream station ID. That's not HD is it? I wouldn't think it would be; it's at least two plus years old now.
It actually is now. ^_^

By the way, the feed just went out again like last night, this time with violent flickering of the image until it finally went black. The SD channel is fine, though.

EDIT: It just came back now; prior to that, even the audio took a dive again; only every tenth or so word could be heard, and even that was garbled. Judging by the behavior of my satellite receiver, I'd say it's a DirecTV issue rather than a TWC issue.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 10, 2008, 09:24:42 PM
Why is it that sometimes during the Weekly Planner, they use the "rounded" maps, but other times they use the more "traditional" types of maps?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 10, 2008, 09:27:54 PM
I don't really like those rounded maps to begin with. Why can't they just use one banner for everything, like pre-2003?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 10, 2008, 11:03:08 PM
The way that the rounded maps animate in is really cool, IMO.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 10, 2008, 11:04:51 PM
The way that the rounded maps animate in is really cool, IMO.
I completely agree... I really like them. Not your "average" weather map.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 10, 2008, 11:18:53 PM
It always brings a tear to my eye when the start the Weekly Planner with the map already loaded... :(
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 10, 2008, 11:35:52 PM
The way that the rounded maps animate in is really cool, IMO.

I really like the "rounded" maps. Their animation is very neat, too. Why doesn't PM Edition use them?  :huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 10, 2008, 11:48:34 PM
PME usually does, I believe.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 10, 2008, 11:56:38 PM
PME usually does, I believe.
They haven't used them the past few days, IIRC.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 11, 2008, 12:34:39 AM
Well let's do down there and brust through the studio doors demanding that they bring back those maps. They're not all safe and underground now. :fear:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jae on July 11, 2008, 01:29:25 AM
I still continue to be sooo amazed by the simplicity in this era's graphics. Simply (no pun intended) awesome!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 11, 2008, 01:26:48 PM
I really like watching PM Edition HD. Right before commercial breaks, they often show neat views of the studio, and I wish I could just pause the TV when they show them. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 11, 2008, 01:42:30 PM
Yeah, there are a lot of cool shots from that studio setup. Maybe I'll post screencaps sometime.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2008, 09:44:51 PM
I'm sorry if this has been discussed before (not a TWC HD Geek) but how come the LDL doesn't appear during national programming on TWC |HD| ?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 15, 2008, 09:47:05 PM
I'm sorry if this has been discussed before (not a TWC HD Geek) but how come the LDL doesn't appear during national programming on TWC |HD| ?
That's because the HD STAR hasn't been released yet. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 15, 2008, 09:50:24 PM
I'm sorry if this has been discussed before (not a TWC HD Geek) but how come the LDL doesn't appear during national programming on TWC |HD| ?
That's because the HD STAR hasn't been released yet. ;)
Is he talking about the Satellite STAR or WeatherSTAR HD?


-Chris
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2008, 09:52:29 PM
I'm sorry if this has been discussed before (not a TWC HD Geek) but how come the LDL doesn't appear during national programming on TWC |HD| ?
That's because the HD STAR hasn't been released yet. ;)
Even for satellite customers? The LDL only appears during the satellite lf
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 15, 2008, 09:53:11 PM
Even for satellite customers? The LDL only appears during the satellite lf
That LDL is part of the HD Satellite LF itself. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 15, 2008, 09:54:41 PM
That's weird. So it's the same for SD too like the LDL during the national programming for SD Satellite customers is generated by a STAR e.g. intellistar?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 15, 2008, 11:49:15 PM
That's not being generated by a STAR; it's coming straight from network control in Atlanta.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 17, 2008, 01:21:22 AM
They're using the "regular" weekly planner maps tonight on EE(AD/WC).
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 17, 2008, 01:27:21 AM
Yeah, and they used the 4:3 precip maps on PME, apparently to make up for using the 16:9 ones on DP. :P

C'mon map people! Get it right! If we have to, then **** it, we'll DO IT LIVE!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 17, 2008, 03:50:55 AM
Somebody just broke the HD feed on DirecTV. I haven't seen the DirecTV "technical difficulties" screen since meltdown day!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on July 17, 2008, 10:28:50 AM
C'mon map people! Get it right! If we have to, then **** it, we'll DO IT LIVE!
LOL! One of the many reasons Bill O'reilly is a gigantic prick-douchebag.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 18, 2008, 04:29:29 PM
C'mon map people! Get it right! If we have to, then **** it, we'll DO IT LIVE!
LOL! One of the many reasons Bill O'reilly is a gigantic prick-douchebag.
I'm sorry am I missing something here?

Somebody just broke the HD feed on DirecTV. I haven't seen the DirecTV "technical difficulties" screen since meltdown day!
Yeah, DTV is moving channels around, and have been for I think about 48 hours. Channel maps are staying the same, but the TP's are changing.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 18, 2008, 04:30:23 PM
C'mon map people! Get it right! If we have to, then **** it, we'll DO IT LIVE!
LOL! One of the many reasons Bill O'reilly is a gigantic prick-douchebag.
I'm sorry am I missing something here?

Somebody just broke the HD feed on DirecTV. I haven't seen the DirecTV "technical difficulties" screen since meltdown day!
Yeah, DTV is moving channels around, and have been for I think about 48 hours. Channel maps are staying the same, but the TP's are changing.

Yes. Search YouTube for Bill O'Reilly. You'll see what he was referring to probably within the first few results.  :twothumbs:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 18, 2008, 04:31:09 PM
C'mon map people! Get it right! If we have to, then **** it, we'll DO IT LIVE!

LOL! One of the many reasons Bill O'reilly is a gigantic prick-douchebag.

I'm sorry am I missing something here?

Yes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY), you are (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2YDq6FkVE&feature=related).
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 21, 2008, 06:16:33 AM
You can tell TWC is getting excited; this morning they pulled out the red, black, and white BOTTOMLINE graphic for Dolly.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYwxguy on July 21, 2008, 10:12:43 AM
According to Zap2it.com, Day Planner will be in HD starting August 4th.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 21, 2008, 10:22:06 AM
According to Zap2it.com, Day Planner will be in HD starting August 4th.
Hmm... then I guess these (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,508.msg50251.html#msg50251) dates are incorrect.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 21, 2008, 11:25:09 AM
well that IS Wikipedia. You know that there's no guarantee as to its accuracy.  ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 21, 2008, 11:28:17 AM
well that IS Wikipedia. You know that there's no guarantee as to its accuracy.  ;)
Yep, exactly. So I'm not really surprised that they were wrong, although, they did make sense. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 21, 2008, 11:45:15 AM
It was either yesterday or this morning I saw that they used the raw earthTV feed during the global forecast without the TWC graphics over it. Is the earthTV feed in HD?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 21, 2008, 05:01:45 PM
The corner inset satellite is here!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 21, 2008, 05:18:42 PM
Cool! Did you capture it?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 21, 2008, 05:26:30 PM
They just played the Storm Alert music going to commercial break at 5:26 PM ET!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 21, 2008, 05:28:42 PM
They just played a new "Your Hurricane Authority" local forecast opener at 5:28 PM ET.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 21, 2008, 05:38:35 PM
We're getting dangerously close to Storm Alert here, folks.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 21, 2008, 05:59:44 PM
They played the other Storm Alert theme from 2006 when going to break at :55 this hour.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 21, 2008, 06:03:18 PM
The corner inset satellite is here!

What's that?  :dunno:

And can someone please record the storm alert music? Thanks! :)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 21, 2008, 06:04:13 PM
The corner inset satellite is here!

What's that?  :dunno:
It's the little satellite picture in the lower left corner of the screen.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 21, 2008, 07:39:54 PM
Wait, they played storm alert music on the LF?!?! :huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 21, 2008, 07:41:45 PM
Wait, they played storm alert music on the LF?!?! :huh:
No. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on July 21, 2008, 08:06:38 PM
Wait, they played storm alert music on the LF?!?! :huh:

who said anything like that...?? :blink:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 21, 2008, 08:11:16 PM
Wait, they played storm alert music on the LF?!?! :huh:

who said anything like that...?? :blink:


Quote from:  season lover
And can someone please record the storm alert music? Thanks!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on July 21, 2008, 08:15:53 PM
and what?...they can't play their storm alert music on-air?

not sure how you were able to put "LF" in his post. :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 21, 2008, 08:16:07 PM
They played it as a bumper when going to break.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 21, 2008, 08:17:53 PM
They played it as a bumper when going to break.
Oh because you posted that at 5:59 PM so I thought they played it the minuted before on the lf
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: ABC7 on July 21, 2008, 08:20:00 PM
They're REALLY hamming it up in 2008. I gave TWC one chance, and they blew it after only a few weeks. I wonder if they'll get to Storm Alert Fest by EE. I am so mad at TWC right now. They are sensationalising THREE days before expected landfall for a storm that is supposed to impact only 10 square miles of American land. I wonder what is so big about this storm. It's like Hurricane Dean from only 11 months ago all over again.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 21, 2008, 08:24:22 PM
They played the other Storm Alert theme from 2006 when going to break at :55 this hour.
This.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 21, 2008, 08:27:09 PM
They're REALLY hamming it up in 2008. I gave TWC one chance, and they blew it after only a few weeks. I wonder if they'll get to Storm Alert Fest by EE. I am so mad at TWC right now. They are sensationalising THREE days before expected landfall for a storm that is supposed to impact only 10 square miles of American land. I wonder what is so big about this storm. It's like Hurricane Dean from only 11 months ago all over again.
It was worse in '06, trust me. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 21, 2008, 08:29:36 PM
Yeah let's go in full storm alert because a very-weak Tropical Storm Ernesto hits Florida. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 21, 2008, 08:37:06 PM
Yeah let's go in full storm alert because a very-weak Tropical Storm Ernesto hits Florida. :rolleyes:
They were in storm alert for Alberto too.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 21, 2008, 08:38:16 PM
Wait, they played storm alert music on the LF?!?! :huh:

Did I confuse you, Victor?  :dunno: Sorry.

I was wondering if someone could possibly record the storm alert bumper music. I think I may have heard it, but it sounded like the same music played for the tropical update. Is it? :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 21, 2008, 08:54:39 PM
Wait, they played storm alert music on the LF?!?! :huh:

Did I confuse you, Victor?  :dunno: Sorry.

I was wondering if someone could possibly record the storm alert bumper music. I think I may have heard it, but it sounded like the same music played for the tropical update. Is it? :unsure:

We're referring to the same music used in 2006 during the Storm Alert LFs. They used both tracks today when going to break.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 22, 2008, 03:22:57 PM
They can't seem to make up their mind on what title they want under the inset map. It was originally "TROP. STORM DOLLY" then during Evening Edition they changed it to "T.S. DOLLY" and now it's back to "TROP. STORM DOLLY."
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 22, 2008, 04:21:24 PM
They can't seem to make up their mind on what title they want under the inset map. It was originally "TROP. STORM DOLLY" then during Evening Edition they changed it to "T.S. DOLLY" and now it's back to "TROP. STORM DOLLY."
Now it says "TS DOLLY."
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 22, 2008, 05:06:29 PM
Now it's Hurricane Dolly. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 22, 2008, 05:17:33 PM
OMGWTF AHHHHHHH STORM ALERT MODE TIME NOW AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

(Please.  You know TWC is thinking that.)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 22, 2008, 05:18:50 PM
OMGWTF AHHHHHHH STORM ALERT MODE TIME NOW AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

(Please.  You know TWC is thinking that.)
Dolly is expected to be a major flooding issue for South Texas, so in this case it would actually make sense for them to go Storm Alert. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on July 22, 2008, 05:20:59 PM
OMGWTF AHHHHHHH STORM ALERT MODE TIME NOW AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

(Please.  You know TWC is thinking that.)
Dolly is expected to be a major flooding issue for South Texas, so in this case it would actually make sense for them to go Storm Alert. :yes:
Whoops.  In that case then:

Guy 1:  "Looks like a flooding event.  Maybe we should do our storm alert status?"
Guy 2:  "Nah.  They can deal with flooding."   :lol:

(Not the flooding.  Them not doing Storm Alert.)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: ABC7 on July 22, 2008, 05:22:16 PM
So far, Dolly is still only projected to strike southern Texas.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 22, 2008, 05:28:38 PM
I know this may sound crazy, but I think TWC should go into Storm Alert.

1) Dolly is a hurricane that will bring a major flooding threat to south Texas.
2) TWC went into Storm Alert for Alberto (and Ernesto too?) in 2006 which weren't nearly as bad as Dolly.
3) I really want to see HD Storm Alert with new graphics. :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 22, 2008, 05:31:54 PM
It seems like TWC is actually downplaying this compared to normal... Just because it isn't striking Florida or a major city?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: stormymikala on July 22, 2008, 05:33:39 PM
I like the inset radar.It shows lots of information during live reports or non Dolly updates. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 22, 2008, 05:34:36 PM
It seems like TWC is actually downplaying this compared to normal... Just because it isn't striking Florida or a major city?

Yeah, I wonder if south Texas and Mexico aren't as important as Florida when it comes to a hurricane?  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 22, 2008, 05:38:18 PM
I wonder who is going to host A&B with Steph because I can't imagine them doing a solo shift in this situation. Also, for the overnight, will they just do a four hour EEWC and a four hour FO to get through the night as opposed to getting another OCM shift in there, or perhaps regular EE will be three hours followed by a three hour EEWC?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 22, 2008, 05:47:29 PM
Dolly is expected to be a major flooding issue for South Texas, so in this case it would actually make sense for them to go Storm Alert. :yes:
Storm Alert is for category 3+ hurricanes, not tropical storms or even a category one.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 22, 2008, 05:50:29 PM
Dolly is expected to be a major flooding issue for South Texas, so in this case it would actually make sense for them to go Storm Alert. :yes:
Storm Alert is for category 3+ hurricanes, not tropical storms or even a category one.
Well, obviously that went out the window in 2006... twice, in fact. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on July 22, 2008, 05:56:50 PM
Storm Alert is for category 3+ hurricanes, not tropical storms or even a category one.
Hurricane Isabel made landfall in the US as a Cat 2 in 2003, but they still went into Storm Alert mode. ;)

Even though Dolly's only a Cat 1, it still is expected to have major flooding impacts in South Texas, which IMO is necessary for Storm Alert. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: stormymikala on July 22, 2008, 05:59:11 PM
Adding to Stephen's reply, during Hurricane Wilma,TWC went in to Storm Alert before it reached category 3 when it was heading to Florida.

Stephen, you beat me with the categories with storm alert :D.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 22, 2008, 07:02:04 PM
I wonder who is going to host A&B with Steph because I can't imagine them doing a solo shift in this situation. Also, for the overnight, will they just do a four hour EEWC and a four hour FO to get through the night as opposed to getting another OCM shift in there, or perhaps regular EE will be three hours followed by a three hour EEWC?
Well, Steph is solo tonight on A&B. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 22, 2008, 07:05:11 PM
And right now they finally got the satellite uplink to Mike back after t'storms in the Atlanta area blocked the signal.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 22, 2008, 07:08:04 PM
And right now they finally got the satellite uplink to Mike back after t'storms in the Atlanta area blocked the signal.
I wonder if those same storms caused me to temporarily loose TWC (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/index.php/topic,546.msg54027.html#msg54027) around 6:48 PM ET?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 22, 2008, 07:46:05 PM
And right now they finally got the satellite uplink to Mike back after t'storms in the Atlanta area blocked the signal.
And the satellite uplink just went down right when Mike was talking at 7:44 PM ET.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 22, 2008, 08:28:13 PM
Dolly is expected to be a major flooding issue for South Texas, so in this case it would actually make sense for them to go Storm Alert. :yes:
Storm Alert is for category 3+ hurricanes, not tropical storms or even a category one.

And where do you get that their decision to go into SA is even based on the category of the storm?  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: ABC7 on July 22, 2008, 08:33:07 PM
I think they have no criteria for going into Hell mode, only when they feel like it.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 22, 2008, 10:12:44 PM
Before 2006, it always used to be used for all cat 3+ storms and strong cat 2 storms, but that changed in 2006 when they decided to start hyping minor tropical storms. I have a feeling that they may have gone back to the pre-2006 criteria, though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Localonthe8s on July 22, 2008, 11:16:20 PM
I hope they play storm alert music on the local forecast either way :happy:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Zach on July 23, 2008, 07:53:08 AM
No Storm Alert yet.
I think it was Ryan Farish who played at 7:48.
Does anyone know when the next Local Across the 48s is?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 23, 2008, 08:02:54 AM
It should be a while from now (several months). We don't do it that often. I imagine it would help if more people would be able to participate.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 23, 2008, 08:15:46 AM
Chris, you've already PM'd me about this.  :angry:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 23, 2008, 10:17:51 AM
OK, wow, why is Day Planner in the HD Studio? :blink: I'm guessing it's just for hurricane coverage, but is the show actually in HD? :dunno: And it's interesting that Adam is on this morning with Eboni; I thought Adam worked EEWC. :huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on July 23, 2008, 10:39:37 AM
OK, wow, why is Day Planner in the HD Studio? :blink: I'm guessing it's just for hurricane coverage, but is the show actually in HD? :dunno: And it's interesting that Adam is on this morning with Eboni; I thought Adam worked EEWC. :huh:

Adam is what I refer to as a floater. He goes where he's needed.  :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 23, 2008, 12:59:16 PM
Yes, it's in HD; it figures that I fell asleep, and the 10AM-12 PM CT hours aren't recorded. I'm back recording now, though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 23, 2008, 02:02:25 PM
Yes, it's in HD; it figures that I fell asleep, and the 10AM-12 PM CT hours aren't recorded. I'm back recording now, though.
I've got it all recorded.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 24, 2008, 02:37:53 AM
The HD feed on DirecTV just went nuts again during the last LF and at the start of the EE segment. There were colored bars traveling up and down the screen like crazy, and there was no audio; after a while, that stopped, and then the picture started jumping around the screen. After that stopped, the audio came back, and the image started rotating with solid purple, aqua, and green screens. It got better for about a minute, but then the traveling bars started up again for about another minute until the problem was finally solved for good. Was DirecTV messing around with their satellites again?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 25, 2008, 04:32:50 PM
The HD feed on DirecTV just went nuts again during the last LF and at the start of the EE segment. There were colored bars traveling up and down the screen like crazy, and there was no audio; after a while, that stopped, and then the picture started jumping around the screen. After that stopped, the audio came back, and the image started rotating with solid purple, aqua, and green screens. It got better for about a minute, but then the traveling bars started up again for about another minute until the problem was finally solved for good. Was DirecTV messing around with their satellites again?
I believe that would have been something downsteam of master between that point, and transmission at DirecTV. I want to say its a STAR rebooting, because the output card usually shows / flashes color bars upon rebooting for a split / a couple of seconds. Was there any sort of clicking, or popping sound?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 25, 2008, 06:41:53 PM
The HD feed on DirecTV just went nuts again during the last LF and at the start of the EE segment. There were colored bars traveling up and down the screen like crazy, and there was no audio; after a while, that stopped, and then the picture started jumping around the screen. After that stopped, the audio came back, and the image started rotating with solid purple, aqua, and green screens. It got better for about a minute, but then the traveling bars started up again for about another minute until the problem was finally solved for good. Was DirecTV messing around with their satellites again?
I believe that would have been something downsteam of master between that point, and transmission at DirecTV. I want to say its a STAR rebooting, because the output card usually shows / flashes color bars upon rebooting for a split / a couple of seconds. Was there any sort of clicking, or popping sound?
There may have been those noises, but I'm not sure. At any rate, I thought there wasn't a STAR involved on the HD feed.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 25, 2008, 06:57:32 PM
The HD feed on DirecTV just went nuts again during the last LF and at the start of the EE segment. There were colored bars traveling up and down the screen like crazy, and there was no audio; after a while, that stopped, and then the picture started jumping around the screen. After that stopped, the audio came back, and the image started rotating with solid purple, aqua, and green screens. It got better for about a minute, but then the traveling bars started up again for about another minute until the problem was finally solved for good. Was DirecTV messing around with their satellites again?
I believe that would have been something downsteam of master between that point, and transmission at DirecTV. I want to say its a STAR rebooting, because the output card usually shows / flashes color bars upon rebooting for a split / a couple of seconds. Was there any sort of clicking, or popping sound?
There may have been those noises, but I'm not sure. At any rate, I thought there wasn't a STAR involved on the HD feed.
That's why I'm doubting my threory, however there obviliously is a system downstream from master that throws in the locals, I'm not familiar with the system though. It might be the same card as what the IS uses, which produces color bars upon reboot / stream failure.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 25, 2008, 07:17:51 PM
The problem happened on the national feed as well. I have to wonder if it's related to the problem with the HD LF that I reported on the Tech Support board on TWCC; I would imagine that such a problem might originate in Network Control; I would think that the HD Satellite LF would originate the same way that the SD one does.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 25, 2008, 09:03:03 PM
The problem happened on the national feed as well. I have to wonder if it's related to the problem with the HD LF that I reported on the Tech Support board on TWCC; I would imagine that such a problem might originate in Network Control; I would think that the HD Satellite LF would originate the same way that the SD one does.
Network control has nothing to do with video.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 26, 2008, 03:26:18 AM
The problem happened on the national feed as well. I have to wonder if it's related to the problem with the HD LF that I reported on the Tech Support board on TWCC; I would imagine that such a problem might originate in Network Control; I would think that the HD Satellite LF would originate the same way that the SD one does.
Network control has nothing to do with video.
I thought you said that's where the satellite LF usually comes from; or does that come from master?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 26, 2008, 05:34:44 PM
The problem happened on the national feed as well. I have to wonder if it's related to the problem with the HD LF that I reported on the Tech Support board on TWCC; I would imagine that such a problem might originate in Network Control; I would think that the HD Satellite LF would originate the same way that the SD one does.
Network control has nothing to do with video.
I thought you said that's where the satellite LF usually comes from; or does that come from master?
Network Control control's cueing of all STARS and internal components such as the satellite LF, the actual video of the satellite LF would originate from Master Control, while the all commands to show / don't show the LF are from NC. The satellite LF is controlled by I believe GPI triggers, while the STAR's are cued via VBI lines.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 27, 2008, 07:27:20 PM
So, did Weekend Now go in HD this weekend?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 27, 2008, 07:38:50 PM
So, did Weekend Now go in HD this weekend?
No. :no:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: ABC7 on July 27, 2008, 07:45:28 PM
Why do you think so? Were Kim and Kevin both supposed to be there for the HD debut? I saw Dave filling in on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 27, 2008, 09:23:59 PM
Unfortunately, I guess the Wikipedia dates were wrong. :( Does anyone know where we might be able to get some accurate dates?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYwxguy on July 28, 2008, 12:25:34 PM
According to Zap2it.com, Day Planner will be in HD starting August 4th.

and it looks like Weekend Now will be in HD on August 9th and Weekday Weather Center will be in HD August 11th.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 28, 2008, 04:06:49 PM
Figures; that's only one week before I head off to college.

Since Mike and Kristina are anchoring WC today, I wonder if Vivian and Nick are rehearsing for HD right now. Nick obviously needs work.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on July 28, 2008, 10:05:27 PM
Unfortunately, I guess the Wikipedia dates were wrong. :( Does anyone know where we might be able to get some accurate dates?
The only way is to probably do the method NYwxguy is doing; looking at TV guides.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on July 28, 2008, 10:22:47 PM
Unfortunately, I guess the Wikipedia dates were wrong. :( Does anyone know where we might be able to get some accurate dates?
The only way is to probably do the method NYwxguy is doing; looking at TV guides.
Mike Bettes recommends you check your local car dealer. (Blooper from first A&B with HD elements). :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on July 29, 2008, 01:07:56 AM
Unfortunately, I guess the Wikipedia dates were wrong. :( Does anyone know where we might be able to get some accurate dates?
The only way is to probably do the method NYwxguy is doing; looking at TV guides.
Mike Bettes recommends you check your local car dealer. (Blooper from first A&B with HD elements). :P

 :rofl2: :rofl2: i totally remember that
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 29, 2008, 04:13:03 AM
Today, they've decided to switch things up a little and put Kevin Robinson on FO instead of Kim. I guess he's all ready for HD as well, so why can't we just do Weekend Now in HD already?!? *gets impatient*
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 29, 2008, 07:52:58 AM
Today, they've decided to switch things up a little and put Kevin Robinson on FO instead of Kim. I guess he's all ready for HD as well, so why can't we just do Weekend Now in HD already?!? *gets impatient*
My guess is that we'll see all three afternoon/evening weekend shows go HD at the same time, maybe as early as this coming Saturday.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 29, 2008, 08:16:43 AM
Just popped into my head. The Mike Seidel/Kristina Abernathy pairing that we say yesterday on Day Planner/Weather Center might have to do with the fact that Nick and Vivian were rehearsing in the HD studio. We might see Day Planner or Weather Center go HD next week.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on July 29, 2008, 12:17:13 PM
Just popped into my head. The Mike Seidel/Kristina Abernathy pairing that we say yesterday on Day Planner/Weather Center might have to do with the fact that Nick and Vivian were rehearsing in the HD studio. We might see Day Planner or Weather Center go HD next week.

I think you are correct, Billy. :yes: NYwxguy has posted some dates for the HD launch of Day Planner, Weather Center, and Weekend Now.

Quote from: NYwxguy
According to Zap2it.com, Day Planner will be in HD starting August 4th.

and it looks like Weekend Now will be in HD on August 9th and Weekday Weather Center will be in HD August 11th.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYCTWCjunkie on July 29, 2008, 12:40:25 PM
I was not totally sure, but I believe this is the most appropriate spot for me to quickly give my thoughts of my first impression of The Weather Channel HD...

Just got it this morning as TWC HD was among 15 new HD channels added to my Cablevision lineup, bringing the HD total to 60. Now I can finally stop complaining my cable provider had failed to add this vital channel.

I was more than impressed with the picture quality. What a difference! I got up briefly at 4:00 AM to check out First Outlook as Kevin Robinson and the beautiful Jen Carfagno hosted the show.

Let me say this first. If your carrier provides TWC HD, then you must go get a HDTV. It's worth it. Besides the very sharp and much clearer picture which makes the new HD studio look even more impressive, the graphics from the projection wall jump at you. As I expected, those small labels in black font on the banner are clear to read now as opposed to it being harder to do so on the SD feed (and I have 20/20 vision, so my own eyesight isn't the problem).

The one map that must be adjusted is the temperature forecast map. It's the one where you see the labels for 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 100s, etc. The map banner is cut off at the top when it is shown on full screen instead of from the projection wall with an OCM in front of it.

Let's say that the HD shows are so tailored to just that, the HD feed. Bright vivid color and the OCMs look even better in HD.

Now I cannot wait to see the other shows such as Evening Edition. I didn't have time to put on Your Weather Today this morning, but I hope to tomorrow.

By the way, no HD STAR for my system yet.  All I have on is the satellite feed during the Local on the 8s segment. So I'll be switching to the SD during those times.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 29, 2008, 01:14:16 PM
Just popped into my head. The Mike Seidel/Kristina Abernathy pairing that we say yesterday on Day Planner/Weather Center might have to do with the fact that Nick and Vivian were rehearsing in the HD studio. We might see Day Planner or Weather Center go HD next week.
Well, there goes my idea down the drain. Nick and Vivian are back on DP/WC today.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on July 29, 2008, 03:41:43 PM
Well, they probably already rehearsed a little bit in June for that one-time PME stint on the 4th of July, so perhaps they only needed a little more practice yesterday.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on July 31, 2008, 10:24:15 PM
Finally, they get rid of the horrible temperature weekly planner temperature maps where you couldn't differentiate between temperatures. We now have something similar to what we had before the relaunch, albeit a lot more detailed.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 01, 2008, 12:44:37 AM
Anyone know what the point of the Forecast Logo is on select map titlebars, like this compared to average map? :rolleyes:

Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on August 01, 2008, 02:37:01 AM
Anyone know what the point of the Forecast Logo is on select map titlebars, like this compared to average map? :rolleyes:


You know, I was wondering the same thing this morning.  I see absolutely no point in it..
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 01, 2008, 06:09:33 PM
Trying to convey a message about temperatures being higher than average because of global warming? <_<
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on August 02, 2008, 10:17:16 AM
I saw Abrams and Bettes on an actual HDTV, and it was AMAZING!  Everything is SO clear.  I loved it! :D :twothumbs:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 02, 2008, 11:10:10 AM
We just had a surprise HD launch of Weekend Now this morning; luckily I was watching the end of WV to hear the announcement and start the recorder. Kevin and Dave are hosting (I'm surprised Dave is already trained for HD), and like Dave said to start the show, "Be one of the cool kids and watch Weekend Now in HD".

It looks like they might be using the A&B desk for WN.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 02, 2008, 11:55:23 AM
The cameras for the video wall needs to be zoomed in a little. Right now on the standard feed it's too far zoomed out that you can see white on the bottom (which I'm assuming is the frame of the video wall).
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 02, 2008, 12:18:34 PM
At the end of the lifestyles segment at :14 past, they used a Weekend Now full screen graphic to go to break, but of course, it wasn't SD friendly, it read "WeekendNO" on my TV. :P

Also, it appears WN has changed it's segment openers.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 03, 2008, 12:56:17 PM
Meh, the segment openers are okay. I really liked the older ones though. The text in the new openers are too big.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 03, 2008, 04:04:16 PM
Bigger TV text is the "thing" in broadcasting these days.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmancanada on August 03, 2008, 05:52:07 PM
Bigger TV text is the "thing" in broadcasting these days.
Yeah, its the other way around, its smaller text with larger screens.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 03, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
Yeah, its the other way around, its smaller text with larger screens.
That's what I thought. Most other TV stations I've seen make their text smaller when they transition to HD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 03, 2008, 09:36:34 PM
Thank God I recorded the 11 AM ET hour of Weekend Now on Saturday. I thought I'd be recording the (second to) last Weekend View in SD, but I got lucky and they went HD. :lol:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 03, 2008, 09:44:53 PM
Looks like by the end of the year, I should have TWC HD in my area:

http://www.cox.com/gulfcoast/DigitalCable/HDTV/new-hd-channels/default.asp

:thrilled: :dance:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 04, 2008, 02:16:55 AM
Looks like by the end of the year, I should have TWC HD in my area:

[url]http://www.cox.com/gulfcoast/DigitalCable/HDTV/new-hd-channels/default.asp[/url]

:thrilled: :dance:

I found out earlier that I actually HAVE TWC HD, I checked my guide, and it's on channel 738 (as is listed there). I can't access that channel yet, because I don't have HD service. But whenever I get HD service, I will have TWC HD. :cool3:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 04, 2008, 05:03:52 AM
With FO, they've started using the corner inset map for Edouard. Here we go again...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: ABC7 on August 04, 2008, 06:00:40 PM
It's deja vu with Dolly from last week. Lord knows I can't watch TWC until December.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 04, 2008, 07:01:31 PM
Okay, TWC.  Tropical Storm <> sending Steph Abrams out to Galveston to cover it.

I am now officially SHOCKED they are not in Storm Alert yet.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: TheRolyPoly on August 04, 2008, 07:03:28 PM
I am now officially SHOCKED they are not in Storm Alert yet.

That also happened when Dolly was still alive & TWC didn't make a storm alert
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 04, 2008, 07:20:17 PM
Okay, TWC.  Tropical Storm <> sending Steph Abrams out to Galveston to cover it.
That's nothing new. They sent Jim Cantore down here in 2005 to cover Arlene, which only made landfall as a Tropical Storm. And this was before the hype machine really kicked in.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: sonicdoommario on August 04, 2008, 07:21:23 PM
You know, a city could be slammed with 5 EF5 tornadoes in a week and a tropical wave in no man's land will still have priority, storm alert and team coverage included.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 04, 2008, 10:41:41 PM
TWC actually did a fine job covering the Chicago tornado threat tonight; we had three tornado warnings going at once, and they were often on top of it more than the local stations, who kept being forced to stop their weather updates in lieu of network programming.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 04, 2008, 10:46:12 PM
Heck, they're still even covering it right now with phone interviews to city officials and the aid of intrepid reporter Jorma Duran.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 05, 2008, 09:39:30 AM
TWC actually did a fine job covering the Chicago tornado threat tonight; we had three tornado warnings going at once, and they were often on top of it more than the local stations, who kept being forced to stop their weather updates in lieu of network programming.

Can't those local tv stations get sued by the FCC for not providing continuous severe weather coverage? One of our Chief Meteorologists said that their station can get sued by the FCC if they didn't show the tornado warning banner at the bottom of the screen because it's for the hearing impaired.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on August 05, 2008, 10:10:11 AM
TWC actually did a fine job covering the Chicago tornado threat tonight; we had three tornado warnings going at once, and they were often on top of it more than the local stations, who kept being forced to stop their weather updates in lieu of network programming.

Can't those local tv stations get sued by the FCC for not providing continuous severe weather coverage? One of our Chief Meteorologists said that their station can get sued by the FCC if they didn't show the tornado warning banner at the bottom of the screen because it's for the hearing impaired.

They have to show the warnings, but there's no law stating that a station has to break in with live coverage.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 05, 2008, 10:39:47 AM
For two of my affiliates here, they have their own station rule that says they will stay on-camera for the duration of a tornado warning in the viewing area.  They were on from 9:50 until 11:35 last night.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 05, 2008, 10:48:26 AM
That's the way my ABC local news affiliate is in my area.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 05, 2008, 02:01:16 PM
Hmm, Weather Center is in HD today.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: TheRolyPoly on August 05, 2008, 02:12:43 PM
Usually it's supposed to go HD next week (August 11th)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 05, 2008, 02:15:15 PM
Usually it's supposed to go HD next week (August 11th)
If that Day Planner one-time HD stint with Dolly is any indication, they're probably only in HD for Edouard coverage. If so, expect them back in SD tomorrow and then in HD permanently on August 11th. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 05, 2008, 02:46:52 PM
Hmm, Weather Center is in HD today.
Was the last hour of Day Planner in the new studio too?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 05, 2008, 02:55:48 PM
Was the last hour of Day Planner in the new studio too?
Yes, Kevin and Cheryl hosted that hour.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: TheRolyPoly on August 05, 2008, 02:56:26 PM
Day Planner was in full HD today
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 05, 2008, 02:56:48 PM
Day Planner was in full HD today
I kinda just said that. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 05, 2008, 03:33:04 PM
Figures that I was sleeping and didn't record; I'm recording now, though.

With Mike doing a show in HD, I guess that makes Kristina the last OCM to not to a show in HD. After all, she did say, "I dread that day."
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 05, 2008, 03:44:03 PM
I guess that makes Kristina the last OCM to not to a show in HD.
And Ray Stagich, and Alex Wallace, and Mark Mancuso... :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 05, 2008, 03:44:58 PM
I should've said full-time, which is what I meant. I'm not sure whether or not to consider Mark full-time.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 05, 2008, 03:46:46 PM
I should've said full-time, which is what I meant. I'm not sure whether or not to consider Mark full-time.
I don't think Mark is really a part-time OCM, since he appears often on weather.com's forecast.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on August 06, 2008, 11:49:01 PM
I don't like the 2 hours of WWCH and Full Force Nature. Thats way to much. Then having Weather Center at 4.  :ermm:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 06, 2008, 11:52:11 PM
I don't like the 2 hours of WWCH and Full Force Nature. Thats way to much. Then having Weather Center at 4.  :ermm:
WWCH? Try ICHT. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: lfmusiclover on August 06, 2008, 11:58:20 PM
Damn acronyms.  :rofl2: :rofl2:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 08, 2008, 12:02:12 PM
I think I can see the sofa behind the DP/WV/PME desk. I wonder if they will actually use that for the interviews they have on A&B.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYwxguy on August 09, 2008, 02:47:17 PM
Some HD Updates:

PM Edition Weekend will be in HD on August 16th and Weekend Outlook and Weekend Weather Center will both be in HD on August 23rd.

If everything goes according to plans, then next Sunday's Weekend Weather Center will be the final broadcast from the old studio.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 09, 2008, 02:49:12 PM
Why have Weather Center go HD a week after PME Weekend? The hosts that anchor WC host PME too, so they should both go HD the same time. :huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 09, 2008, 03:09:21 PM
Yeah, I thought the same thing myself. Pretty silly, huh?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 09, 2008, 06:01:12 PM
PM Edition Weekend will be in HD on August 16th

Apparently PM Edition Weekend (at least the first hour) is in HD THIS weekend.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 09, 2008, 08:00:51 PM
The second hour of PM Edition Weekend is also in HD, with Carl and Kristina.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 11, 2008, 01:01:46 PM
Apparently master controlled Day Planner is still in SD. If Weather Center is supposed to go in HD today, wouldn't they put master controlled Day Planner in HD too? :huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 11, 2008, 09:33:21 PM
So, is Weather Center still in the old studio? They did air ICHT/FFN today. Seeing how it started last Wednesday, I'd assume WC would go HD this Wed.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 11, 2008, 10:45:34 PM
Yeah, WC is still in the old studio for now. :(
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: ABC7 on August 12, 2008, 01:44:36 PM
So the 2 hours of long-form programming are not temporary. They actually began to advertise it. This is  :censored:. Pairing it with Forecast Hippie will make it much worse.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 12, 2008, 02:17:03 PM
They advertised the long-form block when it aired early last month too, so it doesn't necessarily mean that this is only temporary.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 12, 2008, 04:58:08 PM
So, is Weather Center still in the old studio? They did air ICHT/FFN today. Seeing how it started last Wednesday, I'd assume WC would go HD this Wed.

Looks like you were right, Nick and Vivian just announced that it's their last day in the old studio. They'll be going
|HD| tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYwxguy on August 12, 2008, 05:05:11 PM
So, is Weather Center still in the old studio? They did air ICHT/FFN today. Seeing how it started last Wednesday, I'd assume WC would go HD this Wed.

Looks like you were right, Nick and Vivian just announced that it's their last day in the old studio. They'll be going
|HD| tomorrow.
Yup, and Nick actually said that all dayparts are now HD, so it appears that all shows will now be HD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 12, 2008, 06:18:36 PM
Goodbye old studio, you will be missed... :salute:

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1400/snapshot20080812173222od1.jpg)

Last segment from 1A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXIs5A27Wpo).
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 12, 2008, 06:49:41 PM
I'm going to miss this old studio. I still don't really like the new HD studio. I mean, it's nice and modern and all and I like the backdrops, but it's a little too "high tech," and the video wall is really hard to see.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 12, 2008, 06:51:37 PM
What's wrong with being high-tech? :dunno:

Also, it is a bit hard to see in SD,  but, in HD, it looks amazing. TWC needs to prepare for the future. We aren't gonna be in SD forever, ya know. I think their set is one of the nicest news-oriented sets on TV to date. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jae on August 12, 2008, 08:20:18 PM
Goodbye, old studio!  :cry: I loved that studio from the first day I saw it. IMO, the backdrops, the newsroom and the plethora of camera angles made for a great nationally-broadcast studio. I will certainly miss that studio. Not that the HD Studio is bad, but it will certainly take some getting used to. Studio 1A and 1B were amazing...god bless!

I wonder what they will do with the ol' joint. From the looks of that final behind-the-desk shot, it looks as if things have cleared out behind the cameras of 1A. Anyone else notice that? I also wonder what has become of 1B.  The old studio really became sketchy after the HD launch, due to the fact behind-the-scenes shots were never used after 6/1/08 there.

Oh well, farewell!  :itsok:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 12, 2008, 10:44:06 PM
IIRC, the old studio will be converted to office space.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 12, 2008, 11:04:43 PM
You know what would be neat? If they auctioned off pieces of the old studio to us TWC fans.  :happy:  B)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 12, 2008, 11:49:04 PM
That would be nice. Local news stations do that all the time when they scrap old sets/move buildings. I really wish TWC would action off memorable pieces of the old set like the desk, the Hurricane Central podium, the Hurricane Central sign, maybe some old SD cameras, etc.

If they were willing to sell a backdrop, I'd find a way to rent a trucking service to take it home with me. Take out a loan! :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 12, 2008, 11:52:50 PM
I'd love to have the FO desk!  :happy: :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 13, 2008, 03:30:59 AM
All of the show logos on press.weather.com have been updated!

http://press.weather.com/logos.asp
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 13, 2008, 05:05:17 AM
They just used a really cool shot looking down the runway in front of the projector wall from the right side of the studio. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 13, 2008, 12:47:00 PM
All of the show logos on press.weather.com have been updated!

[url]http://press.weather.com/logos.asp[/url] ([url]http://press.weather.com/logos.asp[/url])
They still need to update the Forecast Earth logo...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 13, 2008, 04:06:37 PM
Just what I expected, WC is broadcasting on the mini news desk with map backdrop.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on August 13, 2008, 10:04:00 PM
Yeah, I'm guessing they are going to do Weekend Outlook, Like EE west coast, just with yellow lights and the big screen t.v displaying "weekend outlook" obviously, with new music intro and graphics im sure.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 14, 2008, 04:42:10 PM
Just what I expected, WC is broadcasting on the mini news desk with map backdrop.

That's the perfect backdrop for WC. :yes: What's the one for Weekend Now?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 14, 2008, 04:48:33 PM
WN used a yellow/blue main backdrop and an orange side backdrop.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 14, 2008, 04:49:19 PM
WN used a yellow/blue main backdrop and an orange side backdrop.
He means in the HD studio. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 14, 2008, 04:53:01 PM
Oh. :pinch:

WN uses the same set as WC in the new studio. I imagine Weekend Outlook using this same set, or perhaps the anchor desk in front of the mini desk (like First Outlook).
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 15, 2008, 07:20:13 PM
Question:

For Weather Center, Vivian and Nick aren't actually sitting at the mini desk like Stephanie and Mike are, right? :unsure: The only reason I ask is because Vivian and Nick seem very close to the backdrop but I'm assuming the large anchor desk is rotated to show the map in the background and they are sitting at the anchor desk. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 15, 2008, 07:26:51 PM
They seem to use a different camera angle for Vivian/Nick than on Weekend Now and A&B. They are both sitting at the same desk, though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 15, 2008, 07:55:20 PM
Yeah, for WC, they tend to use a camera angle from directly in front of it; although they will from time to time use the camera angle from the side like they usually do for A&B and WN.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 15, 2008, 07:56:29 PM
Ironically, A&B just used a camera shot from the front like they do on WC.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 15, 2008, 08:41:59 PM
So for Weather Center, Weekend Now, and First Outlook, are the OCMs sitting at the mini desk like A&B? :unsure: Or are they sitting at the anchor desk which is rotated and the camera angle makes it look like they are sitting at the mini desk?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 15, 2008, 08:54:01 PM
First Outlook is the only show as of yet to use the big anchor desk rotated so that the map is in the background. All of the other shows with the map in the background are done from the mini-desk.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 15, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
First Outlook is the only show as of yet to use the big anchor desk rotated so that the map is in the background. All of the other shows with the map in the background are done from the mini-desk.

That's very interesting! :yes: Thanks for clearing things up. :) I wonder why WC and WN are at the mini desk. :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 16, 2008, 12:08:03 AM
Probably since they are one of the least watched shows. The anchor desk is for the higher-rated shows like YWT, PME, EE, etc.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 16, 2008, 06:23:12 AM
Weekend Outloo(k),,,desk rotated in EEWC position.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 16, 2008, 07:03:47 AM
Yep, and the pillars are yellow while the desk is using the nighttime colors, and the horizontal stripes along the walls are also in the EE colors.

Out of all of the shows, WO remains the least elaborate in production. Throughout the whole morning, not once did they do the OCM-OCM tosses at the projector wall like they do on the other shows. Instead, they used First Outlook regional openers to transition between the two sides of the wall.

As for the other two openers that used to be from the 03-05 WP package. Indeed, they didn't come up with anything new. Instead, they simply opted to use the FO Travel opener and the WN Weekly Planner opener. However, they did make up a pretty cool WO transitional graphic that matches the FO transitional graphic. They also ended the show with a long cut of the weekend morning music.

BTW, the opener now uses a crummy cut of the weekend morning package much like the Weekend Now opener music, but the WO version starts at a very awkward place and ends without further music playing after the signature portion of the music where the logo is revealed.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 16, 2008, 09:31:05 AM
BTW, the opener now uses a crummy cut of the weekend morning package much like the Weekend Now opener music, but the WO version starts at a very awkward place and ends without further music playing after the signature portion of the music where the logo is revealed.
Did they fix the opener (so that it's SD friendly)?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 16, 2008, 11:05:00 AM
BTW, the opener now uses a crummy cut of the weekend morning package much like the Weekend Now opener music, but the WO version starts at a very awkward place and ends without further music playing after the signature portion of the music where the logo is revealed.
Did they fix the opener (so that it's SD friendly)?
Nosir, the show is still "Weekend Outloo" for us SD peoples.  The segment openers are SD safe, though.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 16, 2008, 11:11:32 AM
Does anyone have a video of this new WO opener?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 16, 2008, 04:09:01 PM
I'm sure it's probably no surprise to anyone that the desk for Weekend Weather Center is rotated to face the LCD screen just like it is for EEWC and Weekend Outlook.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 16, 2008, 06:06:28 PM
Actually it is. I would've expected it to be at the little desk just like weekday Weather Center.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 16, 2008, 08:21:46 PM
What really confuses me now is that PM Edition Weekend is set up just like it is during the week, facing the interview corner. TWC isn't being consistent. :no: I think Weekend Weather Center should be at the mini desk just like it is during the week.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 16, 2008, 11:03:08 PM
What really confuses me now is that PM Edition Weekend is set up just like it is during the week, facing the interview corner. TWC isn't being consistent. :no: I think Weekend Weather Center should be at the mini desk just like it is during the week.
Exactly; it makes no sense when you think about. EE Weekend and EE West Coast Weekend are also set up just like their weekday counterparts. The only thing I can think is that WC is the only one that still has "Weekend" appended to the name, so I guess WWC is considered more separate from the weekday edition than the other shows.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 17, 2008, 12:03:14 AM
They don't call the weekend PME "PM Edition Weekend" anymore? It used to be the other way around - I don't remember the OCM's ever referring the weekend Weather Center as "Weekend Weather Center" pre-2005ish.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on August 17, 2008, 01:19:31 AM
I have a video of Weekend Outlook this morning, I'll post it soon on youtube.  :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 17, 2008, 05:04:41 AM
They don't call the weekend PME "PM Edition Weekend" anymore? It used to be the other way around - I don't remember the OCM's ever referring the weekend Weather Center as "Weekend Weather Center" pre-2005ish.
They don't use the term "PM Edition Weekend" nearly as much as they use "Weekend Weather Center" nowadays. I think you're right; I don't remember hearing "Weekend Weather Center" used very much until around the 2005 relaunch when the show was finally given a permanent anchor team. (Kristin and Betty)

Guess who's finally on WO in HD this morning? Say it with me...

MAAARRRRKKKKK!!!   B)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 17, 2008, 09:24:01 AM
So the only OCMs who haven't been in HD yet are Alex Wallace and Ryan Goswick?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on August 17, 2008, 09:44:46 AM
here is the youtube video for Weekend Outlook.  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2VP19RFacM
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 17, 2008, 11:09:45 AM
So the only OCMs who haven't been in HD yet are Alex Wallace and Ryan Goswick?
What about Warren Madden?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 17, 2008, 11:23:46 AM
So the only OCMs who haven't been in HD yet are Alex Wallace and Ryan Goswick?
What about Warren Madden?
Yep, almost forgot about him, too. Don't think he's been in HD, either.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 17, 2008, 01:06:19 PM
here is the youtube video for Weekend Outlook.  :P

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2VP19RFacM[/url]


Looks like they changed the WO opener slightly to match the FO opener:

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5955/weekendoutlooknewopenerfw4.jpg)(http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5474/firstoutlookopenerqn9.jpg) (http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6231/weekendoutlookoldopenerrv0.jpg)

First one is the new WO opener, the second one is the current FO opener, and the last one is the old WO opener.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 17, 2008, 10:03:21 PM
When they are sitting at the anchor desk, Adam and Kristen are facing the projector wall tonight on Evening Edition. :yes: I'm assuming this is for Fay coverage as they would normally face the LCD screen.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 17, 2008, 10:19:26 PM
When they are sitting at the anchor desk, Adam and Kristen are facing the projector wall tonight on Evening Edition. :yes: I'm assuming this is for Fay coverage as they would normally face the LCD screen.
The desk always faces that way for Evening Edition. ;)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 17, 2008, 11:25:15 PM
When they are sitting at the anchor desk, Adam and Kristen are facing the projector wall tonight on Evening Edition. :yes: I'm assuming this is for Fay coverage as they would normally face the LCD screen.
The desk always faces that way for Evening Edition. ;)

Not for Evening Edition Weekend, right. :huh:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 18, 2008, 02:02:31 AM
Yes, EE Weekend uses the same setup as weekday EE for their respective regular editions and West Coast editions.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 18, 2008, 09:37:40 PM
Anyone watching Storm Session? I tuned in around 9:30, and so far, it's very interesting, and  quite informing. I like it! :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 18, 2008, 09:38:49 PM
Yeah, I've been watching and is quite interesting. :yes: I was hoping they'd be using the interview corner for this though, but it's pretty good nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on August 18, 2008, 09:44:30 PM
Anyone watching Storm Session? I tuned in around 9:30, and so far, it's very interesting, and  quite informing. I like it! :biggrin:
Agreed, I've been watching all hour, it is pretty interesting. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on August 18, 2008, 09:52:37 PM
I think it's pretty good too, but I gotta agree with Mike about the worst case scenario Stephanie came up with. It doesn't seem believable.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 18, 2008, 10:25:17 PM
I think it's pretty good too, but I gotta agree with Mike about the worst case scenario Stephanie came up with. It doesn't seem believable.
Yeah, there's no way a tropical system would remain hurricane strength while on NYC if it made landfall on the Gulf Coast unless the system were to move REALLY fast.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 18, 2008, 11:14:31 PM
Is there only one episode of Storm Session that will air continuously air this week, or is it a miniseries?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 19, 2008, 02:23:30 AM
AFAIK, it's only one episode. Not saying this for sure, but I think that's the case.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on August 20, 2008, 05:19:55 PM
I just noticed this...

On the Weekly Planner for First Outlook...

Instead of showing all maps for precipitation then all maps for temperatures, the maps were organized by day. For example, Monday's Forecast would show then Monday's Highs would follow.

When did this start? :unsure:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 20, 2008, 05:35:41 PM
I'm guessing it was like that since the June 2 relaunch. I know before that they had a 7 Day Business Planner that had precipitation forecasts, followed by another segment called 7 Day Business Planner Temperatures.

Does First Outlook still do the Business Week Barometer and the International Business Travel segments?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 20, 2008, 06:11:57 PM
I'm guessing it was like that since the June 2 relaunch. I know before that they had a 7 Day Business Planner that had precipitation forecasts, followed by another segment called 7 Day Business Planner Temperatures.

No, it was never like that until this week. I think I saw this done on other shows as well, but I'm not sure.
Quote
Does First Outlook still do the Business Week Barometer and the International Business Travel segments?

They still do the Business Week Barometer every Tuesday and Thursday, but I think there's no longer a special name for the International segment.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 20, 2008, 10:22:30 PM
I just noticed this...

On the Weekly Planner for First Outlook...

Instead of showing all maps for precipitation then all maps for temperatures, the maps were organized by day. For example, Monday's Forecast would show then Monday's Highs would follow.

When did this start? :unsure:

Hmm, I haven't seen this yet, but it sounds like a good idea to me!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on August 20, 2008, 10:25:43 PM
I believe I saw the same concept on Your Weather Today as well :yes:

I like the idea.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on August 22, 2008, 06:24:04 PM
Didn't PME's segment openers used use the music from the main opening theme? I thought they used to, but now they seem to use the music that was occasionally used from the on-the-fly openers and I think one of WN's and FO's opener from 2005-2008.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 22, 2008, 08:25:01 PM
AFAIK, the noise made during the new PME openers is part of the PME package. PME used to use the theme music for the segment openers while in studio 1A, but apparently production is different in the HD studio.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 27, 2008, 11:49:21 PM
I noticed today that they finally put Weather Center logos in the projector wall divider instead of simply using a standardized divider like they did when the show first moved to the HD studio. Anyone know when this happened?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 28, 2008, 12:56:01 PM
Alex Wallace is up next to fill in for Nick Walker. Is this his HD debut?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 28, 2008, 12:59:28 PM
Alex Wallace is up next to fill in for Nick Walker. Is this his HD debut?
No, I think he was on Weekend Outloo last weekend or the weekend before.

I think the only person not in HD yet is Warren.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Gil on August 28, 2008, 05:47:27 PM
Is Alex Wallace (somewhat) new? I don't think I've ever heard of/seen him before. :dunno:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on August 28, 2008, 06:01:20 PM
Nope, he's been around for a while now. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 28, 2008, 09:16:13 PM
Alex mainly does the video forecasts on weather.com; his TV appearances are pretty much during the low ratings hours since he's not that experienced.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jrhtwc on August 28, 2008, 10:27:01 PM
Who do you think will working this
Weekend?  Will it be the normal cast?

When do any of you think we'll be in Storm Alert?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 28, 2008, 10:41:25 PM
Basically it seems they're using the rigid criteria of cat 3 (or a cat 2 affecting a major city) in order to go into Storm Alert. Given the reduced weekend OCM staff, they would most likely have to bring in one or two weekday teams (or maybe folks like Warren and Ryan) to cover some hours if they're in Storm Alert on Sunday.

BTW, has Ryan Goswick been in HD yet?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on August 28, 2008, 10:51:24 PM
Yea, I'd assume they learned their lesson from The two (Alberto and Ernesto, iirc) last year.

But there is no doubt, especially if he goes by New Orleans, that there will be a storm alert.  Could be wrong, but it is a very good possibility.

I know I havn't seen Goswick in HD yet..
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on August 29, 2008, 12:24:47 AM
I have seen everyone in HD but Ryan Goswick and Ray Stagich. If he's even still there.


so, i'm watching EEWC and the HD cameras are going crazy, and at 12:22am, Sharon Resultan is so short that the IS bar is about to her elbows.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 29, 2008, 08:26:19 AM
Ray Stagich is actually still there, and he did his first full show in HD this past Saturday alongside Cheryl Lemke.

Warren Madden, however, I have not seen in HD.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jrhtwc on August 29, 2008, 11:37:23 AM
Do you think TWC will air ICHT/FFN/FE/WWCH thins weekend?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 29, 2008, 12:36:54 PM
Logically, they won't. We might see the afternoon long-form on Saturday, but I would think everything would be preempted by Sunday.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on August 30, 2008, 08:28:23 PM
Two things, both regarding the Weekly Planner:

1. Today was the first time I've seen them use the "globe" Weekly Planner maps while not up at the video wall. Since there only seems to be an HD version of these maps, the West Coast and New England got cut off in SD.

2. I believe yesterday or today has been the first time we've seen snow on the precipitation maps. I can already see a problem with this. Since the maps at the video wall are already so washed out, the snow on the map was almost undiscernable from the various shades of green they use on the map.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: tpirfan28 on August 30, 2008, 09:03:23 PM
Okay gang, got a question.  Do we know if the lightbar around the screens (that replaced the greenscreens) changes color?  I'm seeing serious possibilities if it does.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 30, 2008, 09:35:07 PM
Okay gang, got a question.  Do we know if the lightbar around the screens (that replaced the greenscreens) changes color?  I'm seeing serious possibilities if it does.
I don't believe we've seen any evidence of that thus far, but I catch your drift. :)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on August 30, 2008, 11:55:35 PM
There's a moon in the background of the full-screen graphics that are used for camera splits and info screens? I never knew that before!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 09, 2008, 08:56:01 PM
Tonight at the end of A&B, I noticed that the underside of their desk had red lighting to it. Has it always been like that?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on September 09, 2008, 09:00:05 PM
Underside of the desk?

There's a red floor under the desk; I know that...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on September 09, 2008, 09:02:18 PM
Underside of the desk?

There's a red floor under the desk; I know that...
That's probably what I saw, then.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: NYwxguy on September 12, 2008, 06:05:33 PM
It appears as though the TWC HD logo is now displayed during all the studio programming at all times.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on October 15, 2008, 10:24:13 PM
Just found this photo gallery of lots of shots from inside the HD studio from June 2nd.

http://picasaweb.google.com/iSupercell/TWCGoesHDJune22008#

 B) :dance: :twothumbs:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxmediafan on October 15, 2008, 10:26:45 PM
Nice find, Billy  :yes: :thumbsup:

Thanks for posting those pics..interesting
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on October 15, 2008, 11:49:22 PM
I wish the TITAN HD radar headers were like they were in June instead of what they are now... I liked the purple...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on October 25, 2008, 10:02:57 AM
Agree with you. The current one didn't goes well.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on October 27, 2008, 05:29:27 PM
So does anyone know when TWC will look like the video from the vision thing?

www.twcmediakit.com  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Robert on October 27, 2008, 05:38:34 PM
You mean this? http://www.twcmediakit.com/cable/hd_vision.html (http://www.twcmediakit.com/cable/hd_vision.html)? I think those were beta graphics or something. I am disappointed that TWC didn't use those graphics.<_<
They look a lot better. 
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: toxictwister00 on October 27, 2008, 05:49:26 PM
You mean this? [url]http://www.twcmediakit.com/cable/hd_vision.html[/url] ([url]http://www.twcmediakit.com/cable/hd_vision.html[/url])? I think those were beta graphics or something. I am disappointed that TWC didn't use those graphics.<_<
They look a lot better.


If they were just beta graphics, they make the ones they have now look like crap.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on October 27, 2008, 05:50:22 PM
You mean this? [url]http://www.twcmediakit.com/cable/hd_vision.html[/url] ([url]http://www.twcmediakit.com/cable/hd_vision.html[/url])? I think those were beta graphics or something. I am disappointed that TWC didn't use those graphics.<_<
They look a lot better.
I think that would have been too much of a dramatic change for the average user... I agree, they should have gone with those graphics, they do look better.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Robert on October 27, 2008, 08:00:09 PM
If they were just beta graphics, they make the ones they have now look like crap.

Well, They probably made it them look good to get the viewers all pumped up and all excited. You know, to get people to buy TWC in HD the first it comes out...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: narunetto on October 28, 2008, 04:13:06 AM
I noticed that on two of the monitors that billy posted, they have the Backup LF playing on it all the time it seems like. Nice.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on November 05, 2008, 06:45:29 PM
I didn't know this existed..... http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/
I filled it out.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: WeatherWitness on November 05, 2008, 09:39:13 PM
Question: For those viewers who get TWC HD and have a local forecast for their city, what forecast do you see on the HD channel? Is it the HD National Feed or the SD Local Forecast? :dunno:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on November 05, 2008, 09:42:31 PM
HD National Feed.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on November 06, 2008, 07:23:12 PM
When Dr. Forbes looks into storms in 3D, He uses GR2Analyst, which can be downloaded here (http://www.grlevelx.com/gr2analyst/)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jae on November 06, 2008, 10:48:34 PM
That's the best radar out there, IMO...used by news stations and networks all around, not to mention strictly meteorological work...  Once you customize it with layers, etc. it looks phenomenally professional and flawless. I highly recommend!
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on November 07, 2008, 11:36:43 PM
Yeah, I don't have GR2 yet, but I have GR3 and it's freaking AWESOME.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on November 08, 2008, 10:57:48 AM
What's the difference between GR2 and GR3?  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Robert on November 08, 2008, 06:57:55 PM
What's the difference between GR2 and GR3?  :dunno:

GR2 has Level 2 Nexrad and GR3 has level 3 Nexrad..
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 08, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
The GRLevel2 and 3 programs look really neat. Wish I had it, but I'm not spending $80 on a radar program.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on November 08, 2008, 07:22:05 PM
It has a free 21 day trial :blink:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 08, 2008, 07:24:30 PM
Yeah but you can barely do anything with the trial version. A lot of the features are disabled.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on November 08, 2008, 07:25:21 PM
It has full functionality in the trial version, at least from the link I provided
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Al on November 09, 2008, 12:58:00 PM
Yeah, I don't have GR2 yet, but I have GR3 and it's freaking AWESOME.

i think i might just purchase GR3 with my next pay check, i've tried the trial a awhile back and loved it.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on November 09, 2008, 01:11:13 PM
Can Someone post a link for the GR3?
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on November 09, 2008, 01:42:59 PM
Can Someone post a link for the GR3?
http://www.grlevelx.com/grlevel3/
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on November 09, 2008, 08:16:02 PM
I have just done a little research, GRLevel has 3 Radar programs GRLevel2, GRLevel3, and GR2Analyst, which Greg Forbes uses on air sometimes
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on November 18, 2008, 04:10:56 PM
Vivian Brown and Nick Walker are using green screen today... hmm.. :thinking:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on November 18, 2008, 06:17:01 PM
Vivian Brown and Nick Walker are using green screen today... hmm.. :thinking:
I noticed that as well :thinking:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 06, 2009, 01:48:44 PM
Regarding TWC lHDl i asked comcast
Quote
Alex: So I would still have to wait until June 12th to get TWC HD?

Brian (Comcast Rep) For the complete Digital change over you would. But at the moment there is no word on a date for the Weather Channel in HD

Alex: are there still negotiations for TWC HD because I was told in December it would be in Fall River by January?

Brian (Comcast Rep) I can check on that. One moment please

I apologize, there is no mention of negotiations yet. But seeing as how it is only available in the Boston/Brookline are, due to being all Digital, then in June that may be when it opens up in HD.


Looks like I got to wait until the 2 year anniversary of TWC lHDl until I get it  :censored: :furious:

Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on February 06, 2009, 09:19:14 PM
Regarding TWC lHDl i asked comcast
Quote
Alex: So I would still have to wait until June 12th to get TWC HD?

Brian (Comcast Rep) For the complete Digital change over you would. But at the moment there is no word on a date for the Weather Channel in HD

Alex: are there still negotiations for TWC HD because I was told in December it would be in Fall River by January?

Brian (Comcast Rep) I can check on that. One moment please

I apologize, there is no mention of negotiations yet. But seeing as how it is only available in the Boston/Brookline are, due to being all Digital, then in June that may be when it opens up in HD.


Looks like I got to wait until the 2 year anniversary of TWC lHDl until I get it  :censored: :furious:


1-year, TWC went |HD| last June
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 06, 2009, 09:22:26 PM
Regarding TWC lHDl i asked comcast
Quote
Alex: So I would still have to wait until June 12th to get TWC HD?

Brian (Comcast Rep) For the complete Digital change over you would. But at the moment there is no word on a date for the Weather Channel in HD

Alex: are there still negotiations for TWC HD because I was told in December it would be in Fall River by January?

Brian (Comcast Rep) I can check on that. One moment please

I apologize, there is no mention of negotiations yet. But seeing as how it is only available in the Boston/Brookline are, due to being all Digital, then in June that may be when it opens up in HD.


Looks like I got to wait until the 2 year anniversary of TWC lHDl until I get it  :censored: :furious:


1-year, TWC went |HD| last June
Well, it actually depends... the HD simulcast was launched October 2007, but the newscasts went HD on June 2, 2008... so it could very well be October 2009 when he sees it... Not to sound cocky or anything, but wanted to mention this, lol
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Evan2015 on February 06, 2009, 11:38:10 PM
Regarding TWC lHDl i asked comcast
Quote
Alex: So I would still have to wait until June 12th to get TWC HD?

Brian (Comcast Rep) For the complete Digital change over you would. But at the moment there is no word on a date for the Weather Channel in HD

Alex: are there still negotiations for TWC HD because I was told in December it would be in Fall River by January?

Brian (Comcast Rep) I can check on that. One moment please

I apologize, there is no mention of negotiations yet. But seeing as how it is only available in the Boston/Brookline are, due to being all Digital, then in June that may be when it opens up in HD.


Looks like I got to wait until the 2 year anniversary of TWC lHDl until I get it  :censored: :furious:


1-year, TWC went |HD| last June
Well, it actually depends... the HD simulcast was launched October 2007, but the newscasts went HD on June 2, 2008... so it could very well be October 2009 when he sees it... Not to sound cocky or anything, but wanted to mention this, lol
but he did say 2 year anniversary of TWC lHDl
TWC didn't actually call themselves TWC |HD| until June 2nd...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 06, 2009, 11:44:42 PM
Regarding TWC lHDl i asked comcast
Quote
Alex: So I would still have to wait until June 12th to get TWC HD?

Brian (Comcast Rep) For the complete Digital change over you would. But at the moment there is no word on a date for the Weather Channel in HD

Alex: are there still negotiations for TWC HD because I was told in December it would be in Fall River by January?

Brian (Comcast Rep) I can check on that. One moment please

I apologize, there is no mention of negotiations yet. But seeing as how it is only available in the Boston/Brookline are, due to being all Digital, then in June that may be when it opens up in HD.


Looks like I got to wait until the 2 year anniversary of TWC lHDl until I get it  :censored: :furious:


1-year, TWC went |HD| last June
Well, it actually depends... the HD simulcast was launched October 2007, but the newscasts went HD on June 2, 2008... so it could very well be October 2009 when he sees it... Not to sound cocky or anything, but wanted to mention this, lol
but he did say 2 year anniversary of TWC lHDl
TWC didn't actually call themselves TWC |HD| until June 2nd...

sorry about that i was thinking when TWC lHDl made it debut on Directv
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 14, 2009, 11:14:19 AM
Update on the progress

Quote
Alexander - oh my parents wanted to see Storm Stories In HD on Feb. 22nd

Daniel- Once all of the changes are made, channels like the Weather Channel will be offered in HD.  That is one of the additional HD channels we will be offering

Alexander- so it depends on the local channels switching from Analog to Digital on Feb 17th anyway in MA and RI in order to view The Weather Channel in HD?

Daniel - No, it will depend on our separate project of moving chanels 23 and above over to Digital.  That change will allow us to add additional Digital and HD channels.  We do not have a time frame on that currently but we will be notifying all of our customers as the specific date and time approaches

Alexander -oh ok thank you for clearing that up Daniel, i hate to speculate but in your opinion is Feb 17th a possibility to switch those channels to digital here in Fall River,MA?

Daniel - No, the project is beginning in March and will be ongoing over the next year or so as we will be making the change town by town.

so everyone cross your fingers :D
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 16, 2009, 11:07:17 PM
Quick question... Any particular reason why Weather Center was in the HD studio on 8/5, yet they were back in the SD studio a day later, then went fully HD the following week on the 13th? That always confused me and I wonder if anyone knew why...

For the 8/5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9UWW5Pysw&fmt=18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9UWW5Pysw&fmt=18)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on February 17, 2009, 02:52:37 PM
Yes - that way Edouard's coverage was in HD. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Alejandro on February 17, 2009, 06:07:49 PM
I got some awesome news from Connie Malko, senior manager, PR, The Weather Channel

She said you can Request TWC lHDl here

http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/?from=tv_welc_mainsidebottom (http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/?from=tv_welc_mainsidebottom)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 17, 2009, 06:12:35 PM
I got some awesome news from Connie Malko, senior manager, PR, The Weather Channel

She said you can Request TWC lHDl here

[url]http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/?from=tv_welc_mainsidebottom[/url] ([url]http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/?from=tv_welc_mainsidebottom[/url])
I filled that out months ago, heh
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on February 17, 2009, 08:46:59 PM
I got some awesome news from Connie Malko, senior manager, PR, The Weather Channel

She said you can Request TWC lHDl here

[url]http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/?from=tv_welc_mainsidebottom[/url] ([url]http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/?from=tv_welc_mainsidebottom[/url])
I just sent a request for both Marlton, NJ and Bensalem, PA.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 17, 2009, 08:51:51 PM
I got some awesome news from Connie Malko, senior manager, PR, The Weather Channel

She said you can Request TWC lHDl here

[url]http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/?from=tv_welc_mainsidebottom[/url] ([url]http://twchd.viewerlink.tv/?from=tv_welc_mainsidebottom[/url])
I just sent a request for both Marlton, NJ and Bensalem, PA.
I sent one from 08110 (Pennsauken) and 08077 (Cinnaminson)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on February 17, 2009, 09:50:42 PM
Honestly, that request is no different than you emailing the cable co directly and asking them for it (and we all know how that goes). :wacko:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on February 18, 2009, 07:36:14 PM
So I'm watching Weather Center earlier and Mike Seidel was using the chroma key wall, and I have video...

And now Steph is using the video wall with the cam zoomed in to make it full screen...

weird,
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 18, 2009, 07:38:37 PM
So I'm watching Weather Center earlier and Mike Seidel was using the chroma key wall, and I have video...

And now Steph is using the video wall with the cam zoomed in to make it full screen...

weird,
It's making me think something is wrong with the far right side of the video wall because they are only using the left and center parts, with the 16:9 maps unstretched...
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Stephen on February 18, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
So I'm watching Weather Center earlier and Mike Seidel was using the chroma key wall, and I have video...
Mike Seidel wasn't on Weather Center today, Carl and Betty were.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Spring Rubber on February 18, 2009, 08:08:48 PM
It's my understanding that Mike Seidel was on from 2-4 ET.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: beanboy89 on February 18, 2009, 08:13:34 PM
It's my understanding that Mike Seidel was on from 2-4 ET.
Correct. :yes:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on February 18, 2009, 08:47:22 PM
Thats possible. Either way I'd use the chroma key instead of the computer screen and use the 4:3 screens, It's more clear and honestly, looks better in my opinion.


Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 18, 2009, 08:55:32 PM
Thats possible. Either way I'd use the chroma key instead of the computer screen and use the 4:3 screens, It's more clear and honestly, looks better in my opinion.
I would change the lighting so they could use it consistently if they wanted to.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on February 19, 2009, 05:07:23 PM
Is TWC HD working for you guys? Whenever I try to watch it in HD, the screen gets really messed up and distorted.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on February 19, 2009, 05:14:27 PM
I have no way of testing... the only TWC HD user I know who's active is Steve (Spring Rubber)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Zach on February 19, 2009, 05:19:59 PM
I have no way of testing... the only TWC HD user I know who's active is Steve (Spring Rubber)
Me too! :wave: :P
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on February 19, 2009, 05:24:27 PM
Is TWC HD working for you guys? Whenever I try to watch it in HD, the screen gets really messed up and distorted.

I'm watching it now in HD, and I don't see any problems.  Check your TV's settings to see if that helps.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: twcfan68 on February 23, 2009, 08:22:29 PM
Thanks, Patrick! Something was wrong with the cables, but at least it works. Yay!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Jake on February 24, 2009, 09:02:43 PM
So, Storm Session looks really good :) the studio is really dark and "erie" i like it. :)
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: wxntrafficfan on March 16, 2009, 05:52:57 PM
I know that AT&T U-Verse does not have any star headends, but does this mean that they won't have an HD star on the TWC HD channel?  :dunno:
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: jtmal0723 on March 16, 2009, 06:07:50 PM
I know that AT&T U-Verse does not have any star headends, but does this mean that they won't have an HD star on the TWC HD channel?  :dunno:
An HD star does not exist yet. But once the HD STAR begins its roll out, I highly doubt AT&T will receive them.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: phw115wvwx on March 16, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
I know that AT&T U-Verse does not have any star headends, but does this mean that they won't have an HD star on the TWC HD channel?  :dunno:
An HD star does not exist yet. But once the HD STAR begins its roll out, I highly doubt AT&T will receive them.
Right now in HD, you get satellite local forecasts.  They do look nice though, but I'm waiting to see a real HD Star.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on March 19, 2009, 03:04:36 PM
I don't like Skytracker. I liked the classic radar maps they used in 2000-2002
I agree. The old radar was better.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Mike M on March 19, 2009, 03:24:15 PM
I don't like Skytracker. I liked the classic radar maps they used in 2000-2002
I agree. The old radar was better.
As much as I miss it, they aren't coming back. Most if not all other stations use skytracker radars too. Plus, I doubt their old radars are HD capable.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Tyler on March 19, 2009, 03:51:24 PM
As much as I miss it, they aren't coming back. Most if not all other stations use skytracker radars too.
You're exactly right. Fixed-radars aren't used nowadays. Most up-to-date stations use some type of live controllable-radar (Titan, etc).


Plus, I doubt their old radars are HD capable.
Not a chance.
Title: Re: The Weather Channel | HD Discussion
Post by: Gil on March 19, 2009, 07:47:25 PM
Still no HD here yet :itsok: