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Title: New HD Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on March 28, 2010, 05:11:51 PM
well today when i saw surviving the elements on i saw new pillarboxes

(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs427.ash1/23618_1247707119532_1435067503_30535648_5982921_n.jpg)

quality isnt the best because i took it with my dsi camera and if u cant see it ill reupload it later because it directly links to a photo on my facebook :hmm:
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 28, 2010, 05:20:31 PM
yes i saw it last night
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Mike M on March 28, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
I like it. It's less disturbing than the old "|HD|" pillars.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: TWCToday on March 28, 2010, 08:37:18 PM
I noticed them on the TWC movie night. Surprised the movie wasn't 16:9
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Mike M on March 28, 2010, 08:59:54 PM
I noticed them on the TWC movie night. Surprised the movie wasn't 16:9
Well the movie was from 1997...
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: TWCToday on March 28, 2010, 09:08:14 PM
I noticed them on the TWC movie night. Surprised the movie wasn't 16:9
Well the movie was from 1997...
I guess they didn't release an enhanced version. Ive seen plenty of movies from before them released in widescreen. Guess not for this one
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: epzik8 on March 29, 2010, 02:22:53 AM
I have DirecTV and when I woke up the HD stuff was the same as it had been for the past few months but then I was watching at about 7 this evening and they had updated the forecasts.

BTW, I'm up @ 2:20 AM because I couldn't sleep, I have to get ready for school in three and a half hours too  :yawn: Also it's not even midnight yet in California
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on March 29, 2010, 05:35:49 AM
OT but you now have DirecTV :blink: I would never switch to satellite if I had a legacy STAR in my town :no:
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Tyler on March 29, 2010, 11:21:14 AM
OT but you now have DirecTV :blink: I would never switch to satellite if I had a legacy STAR in my town :no:
It's not always about the STAR. It's about coast and value.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Localonthe8s on March 29, 2010, 03:30:21 PM
OT but you now have DirecTV :blink: I would never switch to satellite if I had a legacy STAR in my town :no:
It's not always about the STAR. It's about coast and value.
*cost :P

Yeah I agree. Usually the cable companies with the legacy stars offer the cheapest package in the area but in these days saving money is essential, so making moves such as switching to satellite is wise.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on March 29, 2010, 04:15:39 PM
OT but you now have DirecTV :blink: I would never switch to satellite if I had a legacy STAR in my town :no:
It's not always about the STAR. It's about coast and value.
I could have also stated that over at TWCC about a month ago he discovered on his cable lineup an XL.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on April 10, 2010, 01:21:17 PM
tuner snapshot
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: beanboy89 on April 10, 2010, 01:33:24 PM
I like them, but they should make the text L3rd-safe.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Mike M on April 10, 2010, 01:46:29 PM
tuner snapshot
No sidebar? :o
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on April 10, 2010, 02:00:50 PM
tuner snapshot
No sidebar? :o
Ummm, yeah, when going to break. :wacko:
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on April 10, 2010, 06:01:17 PM
Now I just saw the old ones before the LDA cued. :wacko:
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Eric on April 10, 2010, 09:00:27 PM
I noticed them on the TWC movie night. Surprised the movie wasn't 16:9

That would have probably necessitated showing a separate pan-and-scan feed for the SD broadcast, which would technically qualify as showing two entirely different versions of the movie for the HD and SD feeds.  As far as I know, there's no way to pan and scan a movie "on the fly" from one feed.  Or, the SD version could have been broadcast in letterbox.

My guess is they simply showed the movie pillarboxed on HD because there are far fewer HD viewers than SD, and this was the easiest way out.

I am surprised, though, that the HD feed didn't put weather information off to the side instead of pillarboxes.

Not to mention that I'm entirely against TWC showing feature films like this in the first place.  Weather documentaries - that's one thing, but not actual movies...  Am I the only one who misses the fantastic docuementaries TWC produced in the late 1980s and early 1990s?  They just don't come close these days, in my opinion.  I remember Marshall Seese's documentary about Hurricane Hugo that was absolutely fantastic!
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on April 12, 2010, 02:12:55 PM
finally a full view of them :biggrin:

EDIT: these seem to be different than the last ones I posted :blink:
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: beanboy89 on April 12, 2010, 03:01:07 PM
finally a full view of them :biggrin:

EDIT: these seem to be different than the last ones I posted :blink:
Looks like they saw my complaint and made them L3rd-safe. :P
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on April 12, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Can I submit a screenshot? :P

(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9110/20100412174431.jpg)

Sorry it's a little dark, I can't resize it.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on April 12, 2010, 05:57:00 PM
Tweaked it a bit.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on May 16, 2010, 12:34:18 AM
Sorry for bumping, but I guess the old |HD| pillarboxes aren't retired. :blink:

(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/70/vlcsnap2010051600h31m50.jpg)

Image taken now during ICHT.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: mightynine on May 17, 2010, 11:44:19 AM
Sorry for bumping, but I guess the old |HD| pillarboxes aren't retired.

Is it possible those are "burned" on to the program - as in the control room's not cueing them up, but they are literally on the tape?

Kind of like if you catch one of the weekend documentaries on MSNBC and you see their old logo because they just "burned" it on there.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Eric on May 17, 2010, 02:33:20 PM
Sorry for bumping, but I guess the old |HD| pillarboxes aren't retired.

Is it possible those are "burned" on to the program - as in the control room's not cueing them up, but they are literally on the tape?

Kind of like if you catch one of the weekend documentaries on MSNBC and you see their old logo because they just "burned" it on there.

Excellent point.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Mike M on May 17, 2010, 03:55:13 PM
Sorry for bumping, but I guess the old |HD| pillarboxes aren't retired.

Is it possible those are "burned" on to the program - as in the control room's not cueing them up, but they are literally on the tape?

Kind of like if you catch one of the weekend documentaries on MSNBC and you see their old logo because they just "burned" it on there.
Or on the 2003-2005 Storm Stories episodes (when the LDL/current logo isn't present).
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on May 17, 2010, 07:15:59 PM
They must have found some way to override that old logo... I haven't seen it since early last March. But then again, when you show the same episode 3 times in one night... it could take you months to go through the entire series.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: Zach on May 17, 2010, 07:27:21 PM
They must have found some way to override that old logo... I haven't seen it since early last March. But then again, when you show the same episode 3 times in one night... it could take you months to go through the entire series.
It was only shown at the end during the credit scroll, and TWC probably doesn't like to show that logo anymore, which is likely why they "squish" the credits these days. <_<
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 09, 2010, 07:48:06 PM
Well this is odd. For some reason, they're not broadcasting Weather Center in 16:9, so they're adding pillarboxes to the screen. Thing is, is the "blurred background" really an idea for a new pillarbox of sorts?

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3094/20100609194448.jpg)
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: mightynine on June 09, 2010, 08:20:38 PM
Well this is odd. For some reason, they're not broadcasting Weather Center in 16:9, so they're adding pillarboxes to the screen. Thing is, is the "blurred background" really an idea for a new pillarbox of sorts?

A lot of HD stations do that when the source is in SD.
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: TWCToday on June 09, 2010, 09:53:06 PM
Well this is odd. For some reason, they're not broadcasting Weather Center in 16:9, so they're adding pillarboxes to the screen. Thing is, is the "blurred background" really an idea for a new pillarbox of sorts?

A lot of HD stations do that when the source is in SD.
Yea. Was the entire show like that? Perhaps they are still adjusting things in getting rid of the sidebar
Title: Re: New Pillarboxes?
Post by: beanboy89 on June 09, 2010, 10:44:26 PM
Well this is odd. For some reason, they're not broadcasting Weather Center in 16:9, so they're adding pillarboxes to the screen. Thing is, is the "blurred background" really an idea for a new pillarbox of sorts?

A lot of HD stations do that when the source is in SD.
Yea. Was the entire show like that? Perhaps they are still adjusting things in getting rid of the sidebar
The segment about that pier was recorded in SD. There may have been other segments of that report that were recorded in HD, so for the SD portions, the editors used those special pillarboxes instead of just leaving them black.