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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => Everything Else TWC => Topic started by: TWCToday on February 26, 2010, 06:00:38 PM
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I have been able to confirm that YWT and various other shows will be debuting new graphics very soon.
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So basicaly TWC is going to have another relaunch?
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So basicaly TWC is going to have another relaunch?
If that is how you want to call
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Well I finally make a reappearance on here! I'm sorry I've been missed for so long, I missed you all! I take it new music may be thrown into the works too?
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Well I finally make a reappearance on here! I'm sorry I've been missed for so long, I missed you all! I take it new music may be thrown into the works too?
No clue on that one. Base maps have changed on the BBOD graphics already so thats one change to expect
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I have been able to confirm that YWT and various other shows will be debuting new graphics very soon.
About time! Among my hopes are 1) the solid background behind city names will be gone and 2) we do not have more dumbing down of the graphics with fewer and fewer details (Remember when the national temp map would actually show temps for more than 10 places at a time?)
twcfan
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we do not have more dumbing down of the graphics with fewer and fewer details
Sorry, but unfortunately this is a growing trend in the industry. The less info there is, the less confusion there is for the viewer.
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we do not have more dumbing down of the graphics with fewer and fewer details
Sorry, but unfortunately this is a growing trend in the industry. The less info there is, the less confusion there is for the viewer.
Perhaps at the national level this is true, but it seems like the opposite locally. Local stations want to appear that they're actually "microcasting" for your hometown and/or neighborhood, making maps appear more cluttered or making it seem like the weather segment lasts a few maps too long. WGN's Tom Skilling (truly the weather master) actually switched to regional temperature maps that are too detailed with their HD update. I think the lack of detail is one factor that makes watching the local forecast videos (if your city is actually big enough for a true segment) on either weather.com or on Accuweather less satisfying than a local newscast; it's just too vague. The Weather Channel could show more cities if they went back to the way they did the regional maps in the 90s by not showing a forecast icon after every temperature and instead placing icons in key spots to indicate weather conditions.
As for making things simpler, I think the big cold snap was actually an example of how the national maps are too dumbed down. There were not enough cities showing on the map to effectively illustrate the breadth of the cold air, and instead of one good map showing a spread of midwest temps, the OCMs have to click through multiple frames (here's Chicago <click and frame transition> here's Minneapolis. I think another example is during severe weather, where the OCMs geographical knowledge is so poor and no city name is close by that they just speak in generalities or point over there (even the geographically magnificent Bill Kenelly has fallen off, not to mention folks like Warren Madden [major city/Hurricane Hunter name dropper] or Stephanie [okay, unfair]).
While it is always a good idea to make things clear, TWC's attempts at simplification oftentimes makes things worse. An example is the map named "Isobars/Precipitation". If they want to be simple, replace "Isobar" with "Pressure", and go through the trouble of animating H's and L's like local forecasters do. Another example is the strict adherence to the 4-color rain and snow scheme. We have had big snows in the east, and yet the detail of where the snow has actually fallen gets washed out in a sea of violet because no one has the sense to use more gradations of color?
And mentioning trends, TWC seems to be a follower and never a leader, at least when it comes to actual weather and not ratings gimmicks. I give credit for their HD transition. However, remember how long it took for TWC to start showing actual city names on the radar? To show topography on their maps? To use color shading on the temperature maps? To start using winter precipitation radar? And when they try to innovate, the results are often poor. I really wanted to like TruPoint, but using the poor resolution and unlabeled Google map background so you can't really tell where you are on the map is not an example of good simplicity. They never could incorporate dropsonde data well or consistently, either, during hurricane season. Most local weathercasters can display forecast models better than showing them off a website, for another example, and apart from a few like Jim or Carl most OCMs seem ill-equipped. That ultimately may be why TWC needs to simplify, not because it betters understanding, but because it cannot present weather complexity with sufficient finesse across all of its OCMs.
twcfan
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By the way, do new graphics include new icons, or is it limited to new map sets and new show graphics? I'll be happy with just the latter, but both would make me ecstatic.
twcfan
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I'll be excited to see these. :thrilled: Hopefully I'm not getting to excited over nothing. :blushing:
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A lot of tweaks and graphic changes to accommodate that big ldl. Most graphics are now safe for it
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Definitely something that will be a big change...a new flavor will spruce things up a bit!
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Welcome to TWC Headline News! :wave:
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wait, is the LDL turned off for the time being? sorry, kinda behind on what's going on.
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wait, is the LDL turned off for the time being? sorry, kinda behind on what's going on.
Looks that way for satellite users
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wait, is the LDL turned off for the time being? sorry, kinda behind on what's going on.
Looks that way for satellite users
At least on DirecTV, dunno about Dish. :thumbsup:
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For whatever reason, the audio went silent for SD viewers in the middle of the 4:28 PM EST local forecast... and following the LF, 5 minutes of black. It took another minute for the blue LDL to come back on. After this, nothing else happened. Strangely, the HD feed was fine. I wonder if this could be related in any way...
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For whatever reason, the audio went silent for SD viewers in the middle of the 4:28 PM EST local forecast... and following the LF, 5 minutes of black. It took another minute for the blue LDL to come back on. After this, nothing else happened. Strangely, the HD feed was fine. I wonder if this could be related in any way...
I watched the 4:28 PM ET LF, and everything was alright for me. It's possible that your headend lost the TWC SD feed for a few minutes there.
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I think I found the new icons. I REALLY hope these are weather.com versions.
http://www.weather.com/outlook/videos/albany-ny-forecast-665?from=video_email (http://www.weather.com/outlook/videos/albany-ny-forecast-665?from=video_email)
FF to about 1:10, the new icons are on the automated 6 hour and extended pages.
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I think I found the new icons. I REALLY hope these are weather.com versions.
[url]http://www.weather.com/outlook/videos/albany-ny-forecast-665?from=video_email[/url] ([url]http://www.weather.com/outlook/videos/albany-ny-forecast-665?from=video_email[/url])
FF to about 1:10, the new icons are on the automated 6 hour and extended pages.
Yep looks like new icons to me. Look at that sun one. Its just horrible. Precip ones aren't that bad.
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/585/39604218.png)
Nice to see these local videos will get an update soon
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Wow, I LOVE those graphics! Now if only they made the intellistar like that...
I noticed Philly is still using the older graphics, hopefully they will change.
Also, what happened to the Bluebox player? Everything is so unorganized now.
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I think I found the new icons. I REALLY hope these are weather.com versions.
[url]http://www.weather.com/outlook/videos/albany-ny-forecast-665?from=video_email[/url] ([url]http://www.weather.com/outlook/videos/albany-ny-forecast-665?from=video_email[/url])
FF to about 1:10, the new icons are on the automated 6 hour and extended pages.
Yep looks like new icons to me. Look at that sun one. Its just horrible. Precip ones aren't that bad.
([url]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/585/39604218.png[/url])
Nice to see these local videos will get an update soon
Those icons do look more defined, they should not only update it on their website, but also on the IntelliStar. I also agree with what you said about the sun icons, they do look odd. I think they have too much shadow around them and they just looks like glowing circles.
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Unless you guys are seeing things, those icons look the same to me.
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Unless you guys are seeing things, those icons look the same to me.
Really? These look different to me :blink:
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The sun icon looks like a ball of cheese imo.
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The sun icon looks like a ball of cheese imo.
Hahahaha
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The sun icon looks like a ball of cheese imo.
Haha same here! I thought it was a tennisball
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Are these new icons/graphics only for weather.com video forecasts? :dunno: Or will they be used on-air? :thinking:
Yeah, I'm not to crazy about the new sun icon. :no: TWC shouldn't be going downhill with the icons (although, they're probably made to look like most news channel ones).
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Actually I like the simplicity, and think one of the reasons the current set sucked is because they were too detailed and looked horrible when scaled down. That is another reason the classic icons were so good. The new ones look like they'll scale better.
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Actually I like the simplicity, and think one of the reasons the current set sucked is because they were too detailed and looked horrible when scaled down. That is another reason the classic icons were so good. The new ones look like they'll scale better.
Only problem I thought the icons had were the mix precip ones
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Actually I like the simplicity, and think one of the reasons the current set sucked is because they were too detailed and looked horrible when scaled down. That is another reason the classic icons were so good. The new ones look like they'll scale better.
Only problem I thought the icons had were the mix precip ones
During the winter, I think it is difficult sometimes to tell the difference between the rain and snow icons, and the difference between precip intensity (ie light v heavy). I think all the precip icons looked horrible on the LDL. A bad thing about the new icons is that it continues the waste of space in the bottom part of the icon if there is no precip, often making it look awkward when set against nearby text (see the satellite LF for frequent examples).
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Seems a bit Web 2.0-ish for me.
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My two cents are to keep the changes for the different precip icons for small scale things but keep the detailed precip ones for the large icons like the detailed currents page in the LF. The new sun can stay in the production bin.
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Some of the forecast maps they showed during PME had new titlebars.
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Perhaps we may be looking at a preview here?
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Will there be new LF titlebars too?
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I can barely see the text on the new title bars when they show it on the video wall.
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Yeah, the title bars are much too small... but I hated the old ones. I'm on edge right now, as I don't know if all the graphical changes have been doled out yet...
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Yeah, the title bars are much too small... but I hated the old ones. I'm on edge right now, as I don't know if all the graphical changes have been doled out yet...
I have a feeling more are on the way, only time shall tell.
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Icons are ugly!
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Like I said before, I hate being on this end of things... simply because I have no idea what will happen next. Simply put, I'm nervous about the changes to the Intellistar, since Molly reported the new icons on the satellite feed :fear:
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HD LF and Sidebar. Click to make bigger
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Like I said before, I hate being on this end of things... simply because I have no idea what will happen next. Simply put, I'm nervous about the changes to the Intellistar, since Molly reported the new icons on the satellite feed :fear:
There will be new icons on the IS. Expect the ones you see now on the IS. Animated I would assume
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oh god... well when?
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Like I said before, I hate being on this end of things... simply because I have no idea what will happen next. Simply put, I'm nervous about the changes to the Intellistar, since Molly reported the new icons on the satellite feed :fear:
There will be new icons on the IS. Expect the ones you see now on the IS. Animated I would assume
oh god... well when?
With the launch of the ldl if all goes as planned. No word on delays and judging by new icons I guess we are still on for tomorrow
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What I really want to know is what TWC's true motive for this is. The last one, while I still don't understand it completely, TWC presented a reason for updating the icons. But honestly, there was no need. The other icons already looked realistic... what's the reason now?
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What in the freakin' world??? :blink: Why has TWC updated the icons? I got used to the other ones, and it's not like these ones are like the ones on weather.com. :thumbdown:
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Sorry for the double post, but I'm not sure what just happened here. During the text based on the 6:38 PM EST LF, the Intellistar flashed, went out for a few seconds, and slowly came back on.
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What I really want to know is what TWC's true motive for this is. The last one, while I still don't understand it completely, TWC presented a reason for updating the icons. But honestly, there was no need. The other icons already looked realistic... what's the reason now?
Problem was confusion figuring out which icon it was. Probably had complaints for the small ldl icons and non animated HD ones. Mix ones were kinda hard to determine but they were fine to me.
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Sorry for the double post, but I'm not sure what just happened here. During the text based on the 6:38 PM EST LF, the Intellistar flashed, went out for a few seconds, and slowly came back on.
You will see a lot of that through tomorrow morning I imagine.
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Satellite LF
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I HATE the new suns and the new thunderstorm icons!! They look like an elementary school documentary, not to be confused with cartoons or random circular food items!!! BLAH!!!! lol As for the new title banners, they are better for screen real estate and general classiness but they need to get rid of that projection wall if they are going to continue to use them. Return to the chromakey!
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I really want to see these icons animated. :yes: I'm assuming this will only happen on the IS...someone please post a video, because I don't have an IS. :(
Also, interesting new title banners as well. They're not that different but more "condensed." :yes:
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I HATE the new suns and the new thunderstorm icons!! They look like an elementary school documentary, not to be confused with cartoons or random circular food items!!! BLAH!!!! lol As for the new title banners, they are better for screen real estate and general classiness but they need to get rid of that projection wall if they are going to continue to use them. Return to the chromakey!
I could not possibly agree with you more.
Anyways, I'm apparently having trouble getting video up on youtube, so...
Edit: here we go...
Intellistar Error- New Icons on Satellite LF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAMtNVo5t1M#)
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They took a step in the right direction with the icons :)
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They are better for non animating uses for TWC
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I HATE the new suns and the new thunderstorm icons!! They look like an elementary school documentary, not to be confused with cartoons or random circular food items!!! BLAH!!!! lol As for the new title banners, they are better for screen real estate and general classiness but they need to get rid of that projection wall if they are going to continue to use them. Return to the chromakey!
I could not possibly agree with you more.
Anyways, I'm apparently having trouble getting video up on youtube, so...
Edit: here we go...
Intellistar Error- New Icons on Satellite LF ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAMtNVo5t1M#[/url])
Those icons look ok. I'm just kinda getting bothered with these sudden changes. I still cant get over the old black LDL getting replaced... and the old Istar theme. Boy I miss those days.
Anyways, i'll have to see the whole outcome of this to make my opinion :jerry:
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Here's also a clip of the new icons...the cloudy icons look the same to me?
TWC Satellite LF- 3/10/10- Icon Update (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elB_AgMaGNQ#)
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The big problem with the 2006 icons was they did not scale to anything. They were a pain to make out - and as TWC expanded in mobile and Web, that became a problem. This update mainly tries to improve that issue. Indeed, this seems to be a revision to the hardest to read - precipitation and sun.
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Here's also a clip of the new icons...the cloudy icons look the same to me?
They will animate differently
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Here's also a clip of the new icons...the cloudy icons look the same to me?
They will animate differently
The icons still don't animate on satellite. :no:
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I really want to see these icons animated. :yes: I'm assuming this will only happen on the IS...someone please post a video, because I don't have an IS. :(
Also, interesting new title banners as well. They're not that different but more "condensed." :yes:
Sure thing Andy! i'll have one up early bird
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Here's also a clip of the new icons...the cloudy icons look the same to me?
They will animate differently
The icons still don't animate on satellite. :no:
I meant when they show up on the IS :)
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So, you mean TWC is trashing the their GOOD animated icons for some web-friendly ones? Sheesh, if they're doing that just bring the XL ones back... :hammer: This is just crazy. Talk about stepping down a couple of generations.
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The icons are too unrealistic, and the suns and moons also look too close to each other.
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The previous set sucked as far as precip icons went, but these aren't much better.
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I'm going to have to wait until I see the icons in their full high-resolution, animated glory on the IntelliStar.
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The rain icons really look a mess. Those are the only ones that really bother me because they are too cartoony to me the other ones are ok like I said earlier. Also is it me or does the sun icons remind anyone of the sun 4000 icons they used on the Sat LF during that timeperiod?
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My small dilemma with these icons is that with my super improved vision, I can't tell which icons are rain and snow. But still, it doesn't bother me.
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These icons are terrible. Most of them look tha same and the sun icons looks like a ball of cheese. only icon worth looking at is the thunderstorm icon but eventually I'll warm up to these
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My small dilemma with these icons is that with my super improved vision, I can't tell which icons are rain and snow. But still, it doesn't bother me.
I need some super improved vision :P From far away i can see that being a problem
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I really want to see these icons animated. :yes: I'm assuming this will only happen on the IS...someone please post a video, because I don't have an IS. :(
Also, interesting new title banners as well. They're not that different but more "condensed." :yes:
Sure thing Andy! i'll have one up early bird
Thanks! :D I don't know when the icons will be updated, but I'll be interested to see the animation.
As was mentioned earlier, I'm assuming these icons are "scaled" better. :yes: That is definetely something TWC needed to do with the icons. :thumbsup:
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The precip icons are fine. If they kept the suns the way they were instead of turning them into little cheese puffs, I'd be much more satisfied with the icons.
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I don't think the icons look that bad (except for that sun..)
Question--- when will these changes take place tomorrow? Morning? Afternoon?
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I don't think the icons look that bad (except for that sun..)
Question--- when will these changes take place tomorrow? Morning? Afternoon?
Early morning; most likely sometime between 3 and 4 am eastern.
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The precip icons are fine.
Yeah. :yes: I agree. I've noticed that the precip ones are like the ones on weather.com, in which different type of winter precip is separated and not overlaping. I guess this obviously shows the condition better.
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I am curious as to how the thunderstorm icon animates
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I want to find the people in the art department and smack their bad graphic taste from their mouths!! hahahaha Realistic weather icons, take 2...
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This newer icon set's not too bad except for the sun ones, they look like cheeseballs. MMMM! Cheeseballs. Anyways, aren't they going in reverse with their icon set timeline? Shouldn't this newer set be the prototype ones?
It's gonna be interesting to see the graphics overhaul tomorrow. Now that I'm in the know, it won't feel like I was frozen in time for a dozen years. LOL!
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This newer icon set's not too bad except for the sun ones, they look like cheeseballs. MMMM! Cheeseballs. Anyways, aren't they going in reverse with their icon set timeline? Shouldn't this newer set be the prototype ones?
It's gonna be interesting to see the graphics overhaul tomorrow. Now that I'm in the know, it won't feel like I was frozen in time for a dozen years. LOL!
You completely read my mind about the sun icon. lol
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I WANT MY CHEEZYPOOFS er CHEEZYBALLS!!!!
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My only response: EWW. IMO, these new icons are worse than the old (2006) ones.
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Weatherscan has new icons
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Weatherscan has new icons
(http://i.imagehost.org/0933/snapshot20100311041921.jpg)
Weatherscan - Icon update - March 10, 2010 - 3:45am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INkGJa9KLok#)
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Well, the change has been made on the Intellistar. At least with the old set, I was able to ignore the motions in the clouds on them... but these are like the motion ads on the Intellistar... you can't ignore them and look the other way so easily.
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Changes made on the satelite, I dun like it :thumbdown: The old LDL fade comes up right as the local forecast starts (But on sat, it isn't local) The only thing for the forecast that is diffrent here is the icons.
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Finally an update i love :dance:
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this isnt what i expected i expected a 100% relaunch :(
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this isnt what i expected i expected a 100% relaunch :(
nobody said to expect that
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Messages on the new lower third (that replaces the BBOD) are scrolling by way too fast to read the whole message at a normal pace.
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I am a fan! As I said earlier in this thread, like most of you, I am not really a fan of the sun icon. The rain icons I like, even though they do kind of look like sleet.. but thats quite alright. I know when it is 55 degrees, I am likely to see rain ;). The new LDL is beautiful! I like it. I also like the new title bars and new supers. I am impressed. :yes:
----Edit: The color of the fog icon looks like it should be haze. It looks dirty :P
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I just saw them use the XL icons on air :huh:
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Any new intros to report of yet?
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Any new intros to report of yet?
Might not be. They are having enough trouble with the current graphics as it is
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Are there supposed to be new graphics?
Also.. This morning the LDL was "normal" size, and now it is huge.. blocking the lower 3rd of the sceen.. not too sure if I like the huge one.
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just donated 2 videos of the changes to the site! hopefully they will be up for you all to see.
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My guess is that you'll see the huge bar during unpopular or fail shows of the day, like DP and PME, yet I don't know where that leaves FO. Keep in the back of your mind that YWT and another day part should be getting new graphics soon, as stated in the first post of the thread.
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Keep in the back of your mind that YWT and another day part should be getting new graphics soon, as stated in the first post of the thread.
Not so sure of that. There never was a clarification on just what "new graphics" meant. Possibly it means just new title bars and new L3s.
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Keep in the back of your mind that YWT and another day part should be getting new graphics soon, as stated in the first post of the thread.
Not so sure of that. There never was a clarification on just what "new graphics" meant. Possibly it means just new title bars and new L3s.
Yes the wording was unclear. Ill be checking up on that
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The icons on the DirecTV LF application are still the old icons
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The new LDL isn't making me happy. Wheres the damn clock :wacko:
Anyways, this turned out much better then I thought :clap: Now just to see the clock on that LDL, TWC :smoke2:
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Something tells me the clock will be added on eventually, I was also going to comment about how large the font was for the temp on the LDL this morning, but I see it's been fixed since I been at school today.
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Something tells me the clock will be added on eventually, I was also going to comment about how large the font was for the temp on the LDL this morning, but I see it's been fixed since I been at school today.
Lot of tweaks going on today but I am not confident about a clock. I hope so though
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horrible afternoon lowerthirds...i don't see why they like to make it complicated, just stick to one and modify the colors, seesh.
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I am a fan! As I said earlier in this thread, like most of you, I am not really a fan of the sun icon. The rain icons I like, even though they do kind of look like sleet.. but thats quite alright. I know when it is 55 degrees, I am likely to see rain ;). The new LDL is beautiful! I like it. I also like the new title bars and new supers. I am impressed. :yes:
----Edit: The color of the fog icon looks like it should be haze. It looks dirty :P
I like the fog icon, it looks very similar to the XL version. :) Now that I got to see more of the new icons animated I have to agree with Aaron about the cloud icon, it does animate pretty fast and they seem to have a "glow" to them. It would be nice if the precip ones moved a little faster. I'm interested to see what the sleet icon would look like since the rain icons have a sleet look to them. Also I think having the icons animated on the LDL is a nice touch.
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horrible afternoon lowerthirds...i don't see why they like to make it complicated, just stick to one and modify the colors, seesh.
I don't care for them much either, why black and white? I saw FO and YWT's lowerthirds this morning and I think they look really good.
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horrible afternoon lowerthirds...i don't see why they like to make it complicated, just stick to one and modify the colors, seesh.
I agree. They look very poor to me
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will directv's LF get the icons updated too?
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At least the supers are still better than the ball 'o cheese sun and the gross amount of wasted space on the HD feed...almost makes me sad to get TWC HD :(
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will directv's LF get the icons updated too?
Probably at some point :yes:
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I understand why you all hate the sun icon, but stop hating on the precipitation icons! I always had trouble discerning what would happen on days when the temperature was near freezing. Now I can easily tell...this is rain, this is snow, and so on. Sure, the 2006-2010 icons were more realistic, but they were very hard to see in SD. Not all of us had HD, super-clear precipitation icons.
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I am beginning to like the precip icons more since they are similar to the old-school icons from TWC's golden years...but the clouds are still too attention-grabbing, the suns are still glowing balls of cheese and I miss the old fog one already :(
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I just saw them use the XL icons on air :huh:
For real? That would be awesome if these icons were a joke and they brought the XL ones back. The raindrops on these new ones look total catoon-ish, while the XL ones were designed just perfectly. However, I really like the new LDL. For some reason, it reminds me of the XL LDL, even though they don't look anything alike.
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Now I can easily tell...this is rain, this is snow, and so on. Sure, the 2006-2010 icons were more realistic, but they were very hard to see in SD.
Sounds to me like you've got the two sets mixed up :thumbsup:
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Now I can easily tell...this is rain, this is snow, and so on. Sure, the 2006-2010 icons were more realistic, but they were very hard to see in SD.
Sounds to me like you've got the two sets mixed up :thumbsup:
He doesn't. :no:
I totally agree with Jonny. :yes:
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will directv's LF get the icons updated too?
Probably at some point :yes:
Yeah, I have a feeling they should get their icons updated, too. Hopefully soon.
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Anyone mind telling me what the difference is between the showers icon and the rain icon? Likewise the intensity differences between many of them?
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I think they change the LDL because of something to do with their HD Studio?
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Im new here so the newbie I am I guess this is worth my first post... :happy:
Im loving the new Local L-Bar (guessing thats what you guys call it, lol)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2qso2hd.jpg)
The sun icons are too bright it might as well be an orange blob on the forecast...
(http://i40.tinypic.com/34ero5z.jpg)
The L3 Graphics (not the Local L-bar) looks nice but looks really squished... It seems that the actual video broadcast is shrinking. Now half the screen is graphics used and the other half is video. Hmmm Im wondering what happend to the good ol'days where there was just one Local L-Bar and the broadcast. I can't complain too much because the new L-Bar is awesome (looking). I guess with graphics getting more and more "Awesome" I wonder when TWC is just gonna go virtual? lol
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Im new here so the newbie I am I guess this is worth my first post... :happy:
Im loving the new Local L-Bar (guessing thats what you guys call it, lol)
([url]http://i43.tinypic.com/2qso2hd.jpg[/url])
The sun icons are too bright it might as well be an orange blob on the forecast...
([url]http://i40.tinypic.com/34ero5z.jpg[/url])
The L3 Graphics (not the Local L-bar) looks nice but looks really squished... It seems that the actual video broadcast is shrinking. Now half the screen is graphics used and the other half is video. Hmmm Im wondering what happend to the good ol'days where there was just one Local L-Bar and the broadcast. I can't complain too much because the new L-Bar is awesome (looking). I guess with graphics getting more and more "Awesome" I wonder when TWC is just gonna go virtual? lol
Welcome to TWC Today!! :)
And nope, it's the LDL (Lower Display Line), not L-Bar. ;)
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Im new here so the newbie I am I guess this is worth my first post... :happy:
Im loving the new Local L-Bar (guessing thats what you guys call it, lol)
([url]http://i43.tinypic.com/2qso2hd.jpg[/url])
The sun icons are too bright it might as well be an orange blob on the forecast...
([url]http://i40.tinypic.com/34ero5z.jpg[/url])
The L3 Graphics (not the Local L-bar) looks nice but looks really squished... It seems that the actual video broadcast is shrinking. Now half the screen is graphics used and the other half is video. Hmmm Im wondering what happend to the good ol'days where there was just one Local L-Bar and the broadcast. I can't complain too much because the new L-Bar is awesome (looking). I guess with graphics getting more and more "Awesome" I wonder when TWC is just gonna go virtual? lol
Welcome to TWC Today!! :)
And nope, it's the LDL (Lower Display Line), not L-Bar. ;)
Thanks for the welcome, and Ahh I new I was close. I guess thats whatcha come to expect from a Newb. lol
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I think they change the LDL because of something to do with their HD Studio?
Nope just typical changes for them. Icons based on feedback, etc
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Here's a little video of the new "LDL" **Note** Poor Quality
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2dwb592&s=5 (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2dwb592&s=5)
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I just saw them use the XL icons on air :huh:
For real? That would be awesome if these icons were a joke and they brought the XL ones back. The raindrops on these new ones look total catoon-ish, while the XL ones were designed just perfectly. However, I really like the new LDL. For some reason, it reminds me of the XL LDL, even though they don't look anything alike.
I saw it too!!!! Earlier today, Stephanie was using the telestrator to emphasize snow on the east coast and she plopped 4 old-school snow icons on, cleared them, then put two more on. I laughed.
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Welcome the forum michael6456!! :) Thanks for posting all your clips
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Welcome the forum michael6456!! :) Thanks for posting all your clips
Thank you, Do you mind me using the TWCTODAY Logo in my sig?
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I just saw them use the XL icons on air :huh:
For real? That would be awesome if these icons were a joke and they brought the XL ones back. The raindrops on these new ones look total catoon-ish, while the XL ones were designed just perfectly. However, I really like the new LDL. For some reason, it reminds me of the XL LDL, even though they don't look anything alike.
I saw it too!!!! Earlier today, Stephanie was using the telestrator to emphasize snow on the east coast and she plopped 4 old-school snow icons on, cleared them, then put two more on. I laughed.
Yep that was it!!! You didn't capture it by any chance did you?? I remember when they used to "plop" the icons on like that. One time Dave Schwartz plopped like 15 of the XL thunderstorm icons on top of each other to illustrate a squall line. :P
lol sorry for going OT. I'll take my reminiscing elsewhere..
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Welcome the forum michael6456!! :) Thanks for posting all your clips
Thank you, Do you mind me using the TWCTODAY Logo in my sig?
Thats fine! :)
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Welcome the forum michael6456!! :) Thanks for posting all your clips
Thank you, Do you mind me using the TWCTODAY Logo in my sig?
That's not the permanent one, it changes by the show. :thumbsup:
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I just saw them use the XL icons on air :huh:
For real? That would be awesome if these icons were a joke and they brought the XL ones back. The raindrops on these new ones look total catoon-ish, while the XL ones were designed just perfectly. However, I really like the new LDL. For some reason, it reminds me of the XL LDL, even though they don't look anything alike.
I saw it too!!!! Earlier today, Stephanie was using the telestrator to emphasize snow on the east coast and she plopped 4 old-school snow icons on, cleared them, then put two more on. I laughed.
Yep that was it!!! You didn't capture it by any chance did you?? I remember when they used to "plop" the icons on like that. One time Dave Schwartz plopped like 15 of the XL thunderstorm icons on top of each other to illustrate a squall line. :P
lol sorry for going OT. I'll take my reminiscing elsewhere..
What time was it? I can get it for you
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I believe it was around 9:15 AM ET...I could be off a bit, though...
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I just saw them use the XL icons on air :huh:
For real? That would be awesome if these icons were a joke and they brought the XL ones back. The raindrops on these new ones look total catoon-ish, while the XL ones were designed just perfectly. However, I really like the new LDL. For some reason, it reminds me of the XL LDL, even though they don't look anything alike.
I saw it too!!!! Earlier today, Stephanie was using the telestrator to emphasize snow on the east coast and she plopped 4 old-school snow icons on, cleared them, then put two more on. I laughed.
Yep that was it!!! You didn't capture it by any chance did you?? I remember when they used to "plop" the icons on like that. One time Dave Schwartz plopped like 15 of the XL thunderstorm icons on top of each other to illustrate a squall line. :P
lol sorry for going OT. I'll take my reminiscing elsewhere..
What time was it? I can get it for you
I can't recall whether it was before or after the 9:08 AM ET LF.... But I know at least it was somewhere between 9:02 and 9:20.
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she was fooling around with the Snow icon XL style thats all i remember.
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I can look for it if people want me to, since I still have recordings up until after school today.
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It made me laugh when I saw it pop up. I figured that they wouldn't even have older icon sets on their computers anymore for just that reason.
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Speaking of laugh, LOL at this guy's comments...:rolleyes: Like he knows all about TWC updates such as new icons and ISv4...
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=elB_AgMaGNQ#)
(skip to comments dunno why the video shows up)
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Speaking of laugh, LOL at this guy's comments...:rolleyes: Like he knows all about TWC updates such as new icons and ISv4...
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. ([url]http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=elB_AgMaGNQ#[/url])
(skip to comments dunno why the video shows up)
Lol, that's all I have to say...
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Hm, this is interesting! Looks like the icon update to the New Kensington Comcast Weatherscan became corrupt, as not all the icons updated!
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Hm, this is interesting! Looks like the icon update to the New Kensington Comcast Weatherscan became corrupt, as not all the icons updated!
What I think it means is that because the new icon set apparently has no distinction between showers and rain, that nothing new was mapped to these icons, whereas for everything else, the new versions replaced the old.
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cool shot
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Hm, this is interesting! Looks like the icon update to the New Kensington Comcast Weatherscan became corrupt, as not all the icons updated!
What I think it means is that because the new icon set apparently has no distinction between showers and rain, that nothing new was mapped to these icons, whereas for everything else, the new versions replaced the old.
I thought that too, but the icons display correctly on the domestic New Ken IntelliStar
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Do icons animate on all LDLs, large and small, SD and HD? :dunno: That is REALLY a nice touch. :thumbsup:
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Do icons animate on all LDLs, large and small, SD and HD? :dunno: That is REALLY a nice touch. :thumbsup:
No animation on HD. All SD icons animate on all LDLs
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I'm surprised they wouldn't animate on HD. <_<
Anyway, from looking at LAT48s videos, the new icons look MUCH better on the IS. :biggrin:
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Do icons animate on all LDLs, large and small, SD and HD? :dunno: That is REALLY a nice touch. :thumbsup:
No animation on HD. All SD icons animate on all LDLs
Except for the LDL on the local forecast itself. That is unchanged from the old iconset.
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We all do realize that the title bars have changed slightly too, right? :unsure: I guess that's why you changed your sig, Billy. :P
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Since there is confusion.... Every LDL used
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Things make sense now! :D Thanks Martin. :thumbsup:
Also, if anyone wants to see the new t-storm icon animate, check out Tavores' LAT48's video. :yes:
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My reactions to the new icons are mixed. I liked the animated clouds a lot, but the sun definitely needs more contrast to prevent it from looking like a certain snack. :P I could distinguish between rain and snow alright in HD, but I think they could have made the snowflakes a little bigger to make it easier to discern the two precipitation types. The lightning should stand out a little more in the thunderstorm icons like it did in the previous set. Overall, there are some improvements in clarity here compared to the last icon set, but I think they could have used a little more contrast to make them even better.
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I wonder what the Dust, Haze, and Smoke icons would look like on this new set... :thinking:
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To me, it's weird that the fog w/ drizzle is animated with falling water droplets and a moving fog cloud...but the fog icon is static. I also dislike the t-storm icon a LOT because you can't see the lightning on it at all. I remember that the old icons for thunderstorm and strong thunderstorm were different, allowing for someone to look at it and say 'oh, maybe I should pay attention to the weather more today" instead of "oh, there's another cloud that looks like everything else on the screen" or something! haha Just a thought.
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I wonder what the Dust, Haze, and Smoke icons would look like on this new set... :thinking:
Dust didn't exist in the 2006-2010 set, so I highly doubt it will be on this set.
Martin or Aaron- Did you happen to get that video of Stephanie showing the XL icons?
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I wonder what the Dust, Haze, and Smoke icons would look like on this new set... :thinking:
Dust didn't exist in the 2006-2010 set, so I highly doubt it will be on this set.
Martin or Aaron- Did you happen to get that video of Stephanie showing the XL icons?
Actually it did, it also doubled as a "Smoke Icon".
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o266/weatherstooge/TWC%20Icons%20-%202007-Present/BlowingDust.png)
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sheesh i wish they could just use at least 2 LDLs instad of how many they use this is way to much.
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Do icons animate on all LDLs, large and small, SD and HD? :dunno: That is REALLY a nice touch. :thumbsup:
No animation on HD. All SD icons animate on all LDLs
On the SD National LDL, the icons do NOT animate. :( Is this true for everyone else, too?
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I wonder what the Dust, Haze, and Smoke icons would look like on this new set... :thinking:
Dust didn't exist in the 2006-2010 set, so I highly doubt it will be on this set.
Martin or Aaron- Did you happen to get that video of Stephanie showing the XL icons?
Actually it did, it also doubled as a "Smoke Icon".
([url]http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o266/weatherstooge/TWC%20Icons%20-%202007-Present/BlowingDust.png[/url])
I though this was smoke
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/mmcornick/final%20transparent%2015fps/21.gif)
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I wonder what the Dust, Haze, and Smoke icons would look like on this new set... :thinking:
Dust didn't exist in the 2006-2010 set, so I highly doubt it will be on this set.
Martin or Aaron- Did you happen to get that video of Stephanie showing the XL icons?
Actually it did, it also doubled as a "Smoke Icon".
([url]http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o266/weatherstooge/TWC%20Icons%20-%202007-Present/BlowingDust.png[/url])
I though this was smoke
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/mmcornick/final%20transparent%2015fps/21.gif[/url])
Icon 22 (the one Michael posted) is Smoke. Icon 21 (the one Martin posted) is Haze.
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With the introduction of the big LDL, the l3rds become l2/5ths:
(http://i.imagehost.org/0608/l3rd.png)
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge
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TWC shouldn't call them lower thirds anymore...just..."the graphic that takes up half of the screen which you don't see most of anyway because the LDL is normally wasting all of that space anyway." Any takers?
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Becoming captain obvious for a sec, but I' definitely not a fan of these new L3rds. :no:
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I wonder what the Dust, Haze, and Smoke icons would look like on this new set... :thinking:
Dust didn't exist in the 2006-2010 set, so I highly doubt it will be on this set.
Martin or Aaron- Did you happen to get that video of Stephanie showing the XL icons?
Derek, I can't seem to find it. Are you sure the XL icons made an appearance during the 9:00 hour that morning?
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I wonder what the Dust, Haze, and Smoke icons would look like on this new set... :thinking:
Dust didn't exist in the 2006-2010 set, so I highly doubt it will be on this set.
Martin or Aaron- Did you happen to get that video of Stephanie showing the XL icons?
Derek, I can't seem to find it. Are you sure the XL icons made an appearance during the 9:00 hour that morning?
Yep. :yes: Just remember it's around 9 - 9:20 ET. Not sure what time zone you're in...
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TWC shouldn't call them lower thirds anymore...just..."the graphic that takes up half of the screen which you don't see most of anyway because the LDL is normally wasting all of that space anyway." Any takers?
It's actually 40%, or 2/5ths... When they big LDL is on, they're called lower two-fifths >_> .... With the little LDL, they're still l3rds :P
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TWC shouldn't call them lower thirds anymore...just..."the graphic that takes up half of the screen which you don't see most of anyway because the LDL is normally wasting all of that space anyway." Any takers?
It's actually 40%, or 2/5ths... When they big LDL is on, they're called lower two-fifths >_> .... With the little LDL, they're still l3rds :P
lol, well now that we're bringing these crazy fractions into it :thumbdown: hahahaha
I would love the lower thirds more if they didn't have to be that huge because of the oversized LDL and the HD info that wastes space and shoves useless info down your throat. :cry3:
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Dust didn't exist in the 2006-2010 set, so I highly doubt it will be on this set.
Martin or Aaron- Did you happen to get that video of Stephanie showing the XL icons?
I know I have a clip of Stephanie using the XL suns last September.
Also, the graphics are still technically lower third tags, regardless of the size.
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Well I finally make a reappearance on here! I'm sorry I've been missed for so long, I missed you all! I take it new music may be thrown into the works too?
No clue on that one. Base maps have changed on the BBOD graphics already so thats one change to expect
Are there going to be new basemaps? They're still all unchanged from before the "relaunch."
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This just looks wrong...
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Well I finally make a reappearance on here! I'm sorry I've been missed for so long, I missed you all! I take it new music may be thrown into the works too?
No clue on that one. Base maps have changed on the BBOD graphics already so thats one change to expect
Are there going to be new basemaps? They're still all unchanged from before the "relaunch."
They were different on the BBOD graphics before the launch but now it looks like no. Perhaps someday
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I love the new icons. Not as much as I love the XL icons but I think they did a really good job on these new ones. So, so much better than the old IntelliStar ones which were terrible in my opinion.
I even like the new Sunny icon. B)
I'm also a big fan of the bigger LDL; it's great to be able to see the radar instantly and not have to wait for the Local on the 8s.
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Though I thought the bigger LDL bar distracts from the on-air presentation, I think it's a very good upgrade. I still wasn't used to the 2006-2010 icons. I'm surprised they had new icons this early. I like the current icons much better.
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Even a few weeks after the new icons I still can't adjust to them. Suns are just too goofy for me.
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I've also noticed how the moons look like depressed and bland Easter eggs, and don't have that fully round shape it did with the previous two sets.
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Even a few weeks after the new icons I still can't adjust to them. Suns are just too goofy for me.
Same here, I don't see what was wrong with the older, more realistic ones. Seems NBC is just in a rush to change everything for whatever reason. I also thought the average viewer could care less about the icons, and just watch TWC for their forecasts....
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Of course, they have to put on a forecast for anybody to care about, first! Instead, The WEATHER Channel is putting on movies, special shows that slightly relate to weather, and other "features" that clutter the screen and waste airtime for what could be used to show...WEATHER!! What a concept! Weather on The Weather Channel!! lol
Anyway, the icons are still not what I would hope for in an icon set...and has anyone noticed that the lower thirds now have the white cutoff for where the LDL appears (which was not the case in the original design of the lower thirds)??
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I noticed this morning that on the HD feed, the icons are proportional, i.e. the suns are actually round. There must be an incorrect setting for screen size on the STARs which creates the images at an off proportion, then squeezes the wider image back to 4:3, thus making the suns/moons/anything round look oblong.
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I noticed this morning that on the HD feed, the icons are proportional, i.e. the suns are actually round. There must be an incorrect setting for screen size on the STARs which creates the images at an off proportion, then squeezes the wider image back to 4:3, thus making the suns/moons/anything round look oblong.
That's an excellent point... I didn't think about that. I was wondering why the moon icons looking like discolored easter eggs. I just thought it was how the icons were designed.
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Not a huge fan of the new icons. But the LDLs are looking good B)
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Can someone post a screencap of the new sunrise weather lower thirds? I've yet to wake up and see them.
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Can someone post a screencap of the new sunrise weather lower thirds? I've yet to wake up and see them.
Sure, I'll sift through my recordings. Just a minute :)
Edit: Here are a few. Not much to the lower thirds, really.
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Aw cheap, it uses Weekend View branded lower thirds?
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Aw cheap, it uses Weekend View branded lower thirds?
On the first weekend with the new graphics, Sunrise Weather used the black and white PME/WC L3rds.
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Your Weather Today has interesting new graphics. are all shows going to be getting revamps like this soon?
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Your Weather Today has interesting new graphics. are all shows going to be getting revamps like this soon?
Oui!
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I was watching the LOT8s at 4:08PM CT, and I saw that the "Haze" icon hasn't changed.
Just giving y'all a heads up.
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So did Chris Geith ended up composing the music to the shows? I know I remember hearing how he was chosen to compose music for them but I never heard if they ended up using his music.
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So did Chris Geith ended up composing the music to the shows? I know I remember hearing how he was chosen to compose music for them but I never heard if they ended up using his music.
First Gust was used in a WN intro one time :yes: