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TWC Today => TWC Today News => Topic started by: TWCToday on February 14, 2010, 12:11:28 PM
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I am pleased to announce our resident meteorologist, Patrick will be becoming part of the TWC Today administration team. I want to express that he has requested not to be contacted on every issue including site/forum problems. Please respect his wishes! :thumbsup: I expect everyone to treat him as you would any other staff member.
On another note early this morning, the server on which TWC Today operates was breached and the site/forum were down for a few hours. Some items need repairing and its possible a brief outage may occur at any moment today.
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Thanks for giving me this honor, Martin. I'm well aware of some of the concerns presented by some of the members here, and I hope that I can help everyone with them. Please realize that I won't be here every single moment due to my own personal life matters, but I shall do my best to keep in touch regularly. If there any major site issues or problems, please send a PM to Martin or Stephen. I'm acting to help keep the peace within the forum and try to be yet another resource for everyone, so I'll entertain concerns and questions over member behavior and other minor issues. If the problems are serious enough, I will pass them on to the other admins. Thanks to everyone for your time and understanding, and I'll do my best to serve all of you on TWC Today! B)
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This is interesting but Patrick certainly deserves the administrator position since he's always done a good job on keeping an eye on things in the forums and focusing on any attention. But IMO, I think there are too many admins in the forum now. One or two of the exisiting admins should be stepped down considering they either don't do much or they're inactive. Of course, when they became more active you can bump up their position again but I'm sure many others agree with me here..With decreasing activity here 6 admins is overkill.
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I agree with Molly. I see that there are admins who hardly come on here and others who don't do their jobs. :no:
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@Zach, Molly: Having 3 admins was great. Having 4 is greater. If something happens to the forum while 3 of the admins are away, the fourth will be able to be alerted by a user of the forum. And even if they are inactive, we can tweet most of them to get their attention. If not that, they're almost always online in the IRC channel.
I think none of the admins should be removed. Even if they're not here, they've always done an amazing job while they are here. So I think that this was a great move. I have more to say, but I'll stop there.
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This is interesting but Patrick certainly deserves the administrator position since he's always done a good job on keeping an eye on things in the forums and focusing on any attention. But IMO, I think there are too many admins in the forum now. One or two of the exisiting admins should be stepped down considering they either don't do much or they're inactive. Of course, when they became more active you can bump up their position again but I'm sure many others agree with me here..With decreasing activity here 6 admins is overkill.
Yeah, I also have to agree with Molly. Three admins (even four) are fine. But having six admins is a little extensive, IMO. :hmm: I still think Patrick should stay as an admin, but as Molly said, maybe some of the inactive ones should be moved down in status...just a thought. :)
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Congrats to Patrick! :happy:
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This is interesting but Patrick certainly deserves the administrator position since he's always done a good job on keeping an eye on things in the forums and focusing on any attention. But IMO, I think there are too many admins in the forum now. One or two of the exisiting admins should be stepped down considering they either don't do much or they're inactive. Of course, when they became more active you can bump up their position again but I'm sure many others agree with me here..With decreasing activity here 6 admins is overkill.
Yeah, I also have to agree with Molly. Three admins (even four) are fine. But having six admins is a little extensive, IMO. :hmm: I still think Patrick should stay as an admin, but as Molly said, maybe some of the inactive ones should be moved down in status...just a thought. :)
There are 5 not 6
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What happened to Brian's admin status?
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What happened to Brian's admin status?
He only had it to try and integrate the emulator sign up in to the forums. It was only meant to be temporary.
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This is interesting but Patrick certainly deserves the administrator position since he's always done a good job on keeping an eye on things in the forums and focusing on any attention. But IMO, I think there are too many admins in the forum now. One or two of the exisiting admins should be stepped down considering they either don't do much or they're inactive. Of course, when they became more active you can bump up their position again but I'm sure many others agree with me here..With decreasing activity here 6 admins is overkill.
Yeah, I also have to agree with Molly. Three admins (even four) are fine. But having six admins is a little extensive, IMO. :hmm: I still think Patrick should stay as an admin, but as Molly said, maybe some of the inactive ones should be moved down in status...just a thought. :)
There are 5 not 6
Way to quickly remove Brian's admin status to prove me wrong. :P Maybe five is OK...I'll get over it. :)
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This is interesting but Patrick certainly deserves the administrator position since he's always done a good job on keeping an eye on things in the forums and focusing on any attention. But IMO, I think there are too many admins in the forum now. One or two of the exisiting admins should be stepped down considering they either don't do much or they're inactive. Of course, when they became more active you can bump up their position again but I'm sure many others agree with me here..With decreasing activity here 6 admins is overkill.
Yeah, I also have to agree with Molly. Three admins (even four) are fine. But having six admins is a little extensive, IMO. :hmm: I still think Patrick should stay as an admin, but as Molly said, maybe some of the inactive ones should be moved down in status...just a thought. :)
There are 5 not 6
Way to quickly remove Brian's admin status to prove me wrong. :P Maybe five is OK...I'll get over it. :)
4 is fine with me. I'd say either Kyle or Stephen get downgraded since Kyle hardly ever visits here and Stephen really doesn't do much unless there are forum errors
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This is interesting but Patrick certainly deserves the administrator position since he's always done a good job on keeping an eye on things in the forums and focusing on any attention. But IMO, I think there are too many admins in the forum now. One or two of the exisiting admins should be stepped down considering they either don't do much or they're inactive. Of course, when they became more active you can bump up their position again but I'm sure many others agree with me here..With decreasing activity here 6 admins is overkill.
Yeah, I also have to agree with Molly. Three admins (even four) are fine. But having six admins is a little extensive, IMO. :hmm: I still think Patrick should stay as an admin, but as Molly said, maybe some of the inactive ones should be moved down in status...just a thought. :)
There are 5 not 6
Way to quickly remove Brian's admin status to prove me wrong. :P Maybe five is OK...I'll get over it. :)
4 is fine with me. I'd say either Kyle or Stephen get downgraded since Kyle hardly ever visits here and Stephen really doesn't do much unless there are forum errors
Stephen does behind the scenes website/forums stuff. By you saying "Kyle hardly ever visits here" is saying "Gary hardly ever visits here," which is true... I doubt they're going to demote Administrators like that. 5 is just a number. Why can't you just get over it and accept it? Why have you and some other users become such assholes lately? Sorry that I have to be blunt like that, but it's the truth.
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This is interesting but Patrick certainly deserves the administrator position since he's always done a good job on keeping an eye on things in the forums and focusing on any attention. But IMO, I think there are too many admins in the forum now. One or two of the exisiting admins should be stepped down considering they either don't do much or they're inactive. Of course, when they became more active you can bump up their position again but I'm sure many others agree with me here..With decreasing activity here 6 admins is overkill.
Yeah, I also have to agree with Molly. Three admins (even four) are fine. But having six admins is a little extensive, IMO. :hmm: I still think Patrick should stay as an admin, but as Molly said, maybe some of the inactive ones should be moved down in status...just a thought. :)
There are 5 not 6
Way to quickly remove Brian's admin status to prove me wrong. :P Maybe five is OK...I'll get over it. :)
4 is fine with me. I'd say either Kyle or Stephen get downgraded since Kyle hardly ever visits here and Stephen really doesn't do much unless there are forum errors
Stephen does behind the scenes website/forums stuff. By you saying "Kyle hardly ever visits here" is saying "Gary hardly ever visits here," which is true... I doubt they're going to demote Administrators like that. 5 is just a number. Why can't you just get over it and accept it? Why have you and some other users become such assholes lately? Sorry that I have to be blunt like that, but it's the truth.
Uh why are you blaming me? yes it is a number and fine I'll get over it but in the long term you'll regret not heeding my advice
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Awesome for patrick, but really jesse did you really have to swear at molly? this fighting really needs to end. no wonder i rarely post in the forums :rolleyes:
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This is interesting but Patrick certainly deserves the administrator position since he's always done a good job on keeping an eye on things in the forums and focusing on any attention. But IMO, I think there are too many admins in the forum now. One or two of the exisiting admins should be stepped down considering they either don't do much or they're inactive. Of course, when they became more active you can bump up their position again but I'm sure many others agree with me here..With decreasing activity here 6 admins is overkill.
Yeah, I also have to agree with Molly. Three admins (even four) are fine. But having six admins is a little extensive, IMO. :hmm: I still think Patrick should stay as an admin, but as Molly said, maybe some of the inactive ones should be moved down in status...just a thought. :)
There are 5 not 6
Way to quickly remove Brian's admin status to prove me wrong. :P Maybe five is OK...I'll get over it. :)
4 is fine with me. I'd say either Kyle or Stephen get downgraded since Kyle hardly ever visits here and Stephen really doesn't do much unless there are forum errors
Stephen does behind the scenes website/forums stuff. By you saying "Kyle hardly ever visits here" is saying "Gary hardly ever visits here," which is true... I doubt they're going to demote Administrators like that. 5 is just a number. Why can't you just get over it and accept it? Why have you and some other users become such assholes lately? Sorry that I have to be blunt like that, but it's the truth.
Uh why are you blaming me? yes it is a number and fine I'll get over it but in the long term you'll regret not heeding my advice
I'm not blaming just you. There's a few I'm blaming here, but more to the point, threats won't get you far. Kicking people off the staff for no good reason is not a wise decision. That's just cruel.
Awesome for patrick, but really jesse did you really have to swear at molly? this fighting really needs to end. no wonder i rarely post in the forums :rolleyes:
I felt it was necessary to say, I'm a blunt person. I'm not fighting. I'm speaking the absolute truth.
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Stephen does behind the scenes website/forums stuff. By you saying "Kyle hardly ever visits here" is saying "Gary hardly ever visits here," which is true... I doubt they're going to demote Administrators like that. 5 is just a number. Why can't you just get over it and accept it? Why have you and some other users become such assholes lately? Sorry that I have to be blunt like that, but it's the truth.
I'm sorry, but I have to agree with the last sentence. The admins do a great job running this site, and you are making Mount Everest out of a piece of dirt. And also, we all have lives outside of TWC Today. I know Kyle has been going through a big time in his life, and it should be more than acceptable that he isn't here 24/7.
My (and many others') definitions of a forum administrator NOWHERE includes "be online 24/7" or "always be there for your users." Sure, even if they might let a few users down with their obligations, they're people and they have lives to live...and I'll leave it at that.
Good night.
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I know that's why I'm not bashing anyone for no reason. I also agree it's cruel but if you look at the stats, does it really make sense to keep an admin who hasn't been online for months when you have regular members/staff who visit here at least a couple times a week?
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I know that's why I'm not bashing anyone for no reason. I also agree it's cruel but if you look at the stats, does it really make sense to keep an admin who hasn't been online for months when you have regular members/staff who visit here at least a couple times a week?
I say because most of the admins have other things to worry about (school/work/family) rather than checking up on the forums. its best for martin to decide about that.
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I know that's why I'm not bashing anyone for no reason. I also agree it's cruel but if you look at the stats, does it really make sense to keep an admin who hasn't been online for months when you have regular members/staff who visit here at least a couple times a week?
I say because most of the admins have other things to worry about (school/work/family) rather than checking up on the forums.
Absolutely which is why they wont have much time visiting the forums. How can that be a 'cruel' reason to step down someone then? :unsure:
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Okay, that's enough arguing here! I didn't intend on accepting my admin status to start off a major controversy. :no: It shouldn't be such a huge concern on how many admins we have to where a debate erupts. This decision is up to Martin alone, so it's best that this issue be laid to rest until he considers everything and decides on what to do. Arguing about it here among other members isn't going to help one bit and will just cause more unneeded drama. You all should know that if my life gets too busy in the future when I get a meteorology job to where it would be too much pressure for me, then I would be the one to choose to step down.
Please, can we all take a deep breath and try to work out our differences here without starting major debates for the sake of everyone? I would greatly appreciate it.
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Thank you Patrick.
Look here is the rundown on the admins:
Gary- will never be removed as admin unless he tells me to do so
Kyle- will evaluate the position based on comments from other admins and Kyle himself
Stephen- will not be removed as admin. He does a lot more than you think
Some of you see to be enjoying picking a fight out of everything. Does it matter if there are 3admins for 6admins? I really am disappointed that you all are arguing about this.
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There is a sense of immaturity here, and it's uncalled for. It's Martin's site, and he can do what he wants, and use who he wants as an admin. If you don't like it, lump it! Arguing and bickering gets you nowhere.
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There is a sense of immaturity here, and it's uncalled for. It's Martin's site, and he can do what he wants, and use who he wants as an admin. If you don't like it, lump it! Arguing and bickering gets you nowhere.
Thank you Tyler! :clap:
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:jerry:
Seriously, though, 5 admins? That's like having 8 bosses! :P
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Seriously, though, 5 admins? That's like having 8 bosses! :P
I don't get it. Is that from a TV show or something?
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:jerry:
Seriously, though, 5 admins? That's like having 8 bosses! :P
LOL I agree. It's amazing how a number can actually play a role on things. And it's also amazing how downhill the members here are going too. :rolleyes: I can't remember the last time I've been irritated like that
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:jerry:
Seriously, though, 5 admins? That's like having 8 bosses! :P
You can say that again!!! :yes:
At first, the forums were exciting and everything. And now, everything's just got to the boring point to me.
Don't get me wrong, I do still like the forums and everything, but get some excitement back in here!! (Don't become mad at me or anything like that. It's just my opinionn, everyone!!!)
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Seriously, though, 5 admins? That's like having 8 bosses! :P
I don't get it. Is that from a TV show or something?
Yes. It's from "Office Space."
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In light of everything going on lately, I'm going to be watching the forums carefully for any problems, and I'll report any significant incident to Martin or Stephen. It's time for all this arguing and bickering to stop, and I refuse to let this community become divided over things that really shouldn't be causing this much drama. I've given all of you a new thread to post anything constructive that you would like to see for improvements here. I also urge that we all put aside our own differences and focus on the TWC community here. It takes everyone's cooperation to make everything work, so please show that respect to everyone else even if you don't agree with other beliefs and points of views being shared here.
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Guys, after reading to what had happened last night, I am very speechless on what to say. Good thing I missed out otherwise who'd know if I'd be posting right now. :noexpression:
@Jesse, I agree and disagree with you in many ways. Just ignoring it would probably be the best thing to do. However, when you say "kicking people off the staff is cruel", it is cruel because all it might just do is cause people to argue more and then there would be issues such as what happened here.
@Alex, asking Jesse if he had to swear at Molly just influences the issue.
@Jonathan, you have a point about saying there doesn't have to be admins online all the time.
@Martin, there are indeed people who do want to pick fights, but in all honesty, I think they do it just for attention.
@Tyler, you're absolutely correct! If people just don't like it here, then why the heck do they even visit this place?
So overall, I think Patrick is a great addition to the admin team and as for Gary, since he is the creator of the forum, I doubt he could be removed.
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I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet. :lock: But I will stay out of everything. :) I like Patrick's "admin-sounding" voice, even after being raised to that status for a day. Good work. :thumbsup:
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This thread hasn't been locked because I feel this needs to run its course and people need to get whatever is bothering them out. I will do my best to make sure everyone is happy. As I have said before the lack of TWC interest has caused some issues on top of others. I have a strong feeling that the next few months will bring out some more activity.
Another I should note is that perhaps people are misinterpreting the position of "admin". An admin does not necessarily mean they make major forum changes, policies, etc. Its more of a glorified moderator although some of us do other options as well. I am considering if I should revive the "moderator position" for some admin but quite frankly it never bothered me enough to do it. Something to think about at least considering the things I have heard.
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You know, I think I need to admit to misjudging the administration of this site. Now that I think it over, Patrick is a wise choice for an administrator. In addition to having TWC knowledge and experience many of us don't have (I know, it does not pertain much here... but I'm making a point :P ), Patrick seems to have the firm but fair way at going about things. I must say I admire Martin's statement about letting this topic take its course. I do agree that there is quite a bit of administration here, but so long as no one rules with a heavy hand, I don't see what is wrong with the administration we now have.
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Well, one week in, and Patrick seems to be doing a great job! :happy: :biggrin:
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I want to let people know I will be cleaning up some areas of the site soon so if posts are moved or reorganized please be aware. Thanks
Patrick is indeed doing a great job
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i'm sorry
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i'm sorry
Sorry for what?
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I think he meant for things in general. Its all good. If anyone still has complaints shoot me a pm
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I know I don't get a chance to pop up here too often these days, but removing me from my admin position? I think that's a little harsh lol. :bleh:
Anyway, my real reason for posting here is to congratulate Patrick. I think Martin made a very wise choice in making you an admin. Welcome to the team! :biggrin: B)
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I know I don't get a chance to pop up here too often these days, but removing me from my admin position? I think that's a little harsh lol. :bleh:
Anyway, my real reason for posting here is to congratulate Patrick. I think Martin made a very wise choice in making you an admin. Welcome to the team! :biggrin: B)
Thank you, Gary! I'm slowly but surely getting the hang of it, but I still have a lot more to learn! :bleh:
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Welcome back Gary! Missed ya
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Welcome back Gary! Missed ya
Hi Vic! Missed you too! I'm happy to be back!! B)
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I know I don't get a chance to pop up here too often these days, but removing me from my admin position? I think that's a little harsh lol. :bleh:
Anyway, my real reason for posting here is to congratulate Patrick. I think Martin made a very wise choice in making you an admin. Welcome to the team! :biggrin: B)
Patrick has been doing an awesome job