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Title: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: texasstooge on March 10, 2015, 01:09:30 AM
Three days ago, I got an email from my friend Ryan saying that his DFW FiOS IntelliStar is out (see topic posted on the STAR Tech Support section (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/weatherstar-tech-support/dfw-fios-intellistar-down/msg192546/#new))

So far, it's day 3 and the IS is still out. Out of curiosity, any FiOS customers in markets other than Dallas/Fort Worth having the same issue? And is Weatherscan still operating?
Title: Re: FiOS and IntelliStars
Post by: Weatherman99 on March 10, 2015, 01:22:16 AM
My intelliStar is gone completely. Like the station is gone.
Title: Re: FiOS and IntelliStars
Post by: Tyler on March 10, 2015, 05:16:55 AM
According to an email I got from Verizon, their contract with TWC is up and they are not renewing.

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Dear Valued Verizon Customer,
 
Verizon’s agreements to carry The Weather Channel and Weather Scan have expired, and have not been renewed.  In today’s environment, customers are increasingly accessing weather information not only from their TV but from a variety of online sources and apps.  Verizon is therefore pleased to launch the new AccuWeather Network, which will be available on FiOS® TV on channel 119/619 (HD) and on our free FiOS Mobile App starting March 10, 2015.  Verizon will also provide the FiOS TV WeatherBug “widget” application, which features hyper-local weather, on FiOS TV channel 49. WeatherBug can also be launched by pressing the “widget” button on the FiOS TV remote.
 
Sincerely,
 
Your Verizon Team
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: BDRyanWX on March 10, 2015, 07:53:54 AM
Real nice.

Go ahead, Verizon, give me more reasons to drop you guys. Trust me, they're piling up pretty quick.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: NorEastorm on March 10, 2015, 08:07:11 AM
I have no problem with FiOS dropping TWC. Actually I am happy. TWC is nothing of its former self and honestly is getting more and more away from doing the weather.  Before one of the big snow storms this winter in the NE they weren't on the air at all to give updates or forecast and the storm was 36hours out. The bottom scroll no longer would show color coded warnings. All the little things that were once great are gone. And let's not forget the revolving door of OCMs. Cantore is becoming more and more of a pompous @ss.   I welcome Accuweather and a change to someone that will do more weather.  Also Mark Mancuso is on accu this morning. A long time TWC OCM who was fired in 08. Good to see him I always liked him.  It will take sometime for acciweather to get it all together but I have confidence.  Unlike weather nation acciweather has been around for a very long time and they have all the tools for forecasting and I really find their forecast to be very wel accurate.  I always go to their website over the TWC. 
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on March 10, 2015, 10:29:15 AM
Well it's all The Weather Channel's fault! Increased Long Form and charge higher retransmission fees just to keep up with bills (barely). As I said the DTV dispute, "they have nothing to blame but themselves". It's really sad to see, the channel was once everything that I could ever want but you know "it's not a revolution, it's evolution". Wise (not) words from TWC management 2012.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Mike M on March 10, 2015, 12:16:45 PM
Well it's all The Weather Channel's fault! Increased Long Form and charge higher retransmission fees just to keep up with bills (barely). As I said the DTV dispute, "they have nothing to blame but themselves". It's really sad to see, the channel was once everything that I could ever want but you know "it's not a revolution, it's evolution". Wise (not) words from TWC management 2012.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with that despite what they may say. Probably TWC trying to increase carriage costs like what happened with DirecTV.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Weatherman99 on March 10, 2015, 12:51:31 PM
AccuWeather is a horrible replacement. So far, I've noticed the screen freezing at times, not to mention the HD channel was lacking audio... the weather channel was a good channel, the long form programming was kind of lame, but I still liked the live weather. It looks like I'll probably be switching to Bright House Networks.  :no:
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Tyler on March 10, 2015, 02:15:45 PM
The Accuweather channel blows. It gives forecasts for major cities but the forecasts only include temp and not conditions which makes no sense. The video forecasts are only for Boston, NYC and DC it seems like. Haven't seen a video forecast for Pittsburgh, Baltimore or Philadelphia for example. Also the audio is out of sync.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: WeatherWitness on March 10, 2015, 03:09:55 PM
Hmmm, where have I seen this before? :rolleyes:  I'll give Verizon a month (which may be generous) before they come to an agreement with TWC and pick the channel back up again.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: IceManNYR on March 10, 2015, 06:01:53 PM
Verizon had sent a TWC has been dropped message to some customers on March 3rd so I'm pretty sure they were ready to drop it today.

The AccuWeather channel is playback of recorded segments and there are no local weather segments as FiOS is running a national version. There are no live segments either.
FiOS is having a problem with the video and audio on AccuWeather not playing normally.

Because of all that the channel does not interest me at all.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Adrian on March 10, 2015, 06:22:40 PM
Statement from The Weather Channel on Verizon FiOS:

"We were disappointed when late yesterday, March 9, Verizon FiOS dropped The Weather Channel from their lineup while our companies continued to be in active conversations regarding a contract renewal. FiOS customers have enjoyed a bundle of services from The Weather Channel including the network, WeatherScan, On Demand, a Weather Widget and streaming on mobile devices.

During a winter with record-breaking storms and severe weather, The Weather Channel responded with non-stop live coverage, including the ongoing presence of our crews reporting live from hard-hit communities within the Verizon FiOS footprint. This coverage resulted in The Weather Channel being the only major cable network to grow in February.

After recently renewing carriage agreements with NCTC, Cox and Time Warner Cable, we are surprised Verizon FiOS would deny their subscribers access to the best live weather coverage and expertise that only The Weather Channel can provide. They have made it clear to us that they no longer wish to negotiate​,​ despite our desire to continue to serve their subscribers. We urge FiOS customers to contact Verizon and voice their displeasure."

In my opinion, I think Verizon did the right thing but AccuWeather needs to improve as it's launch didn't go too well. It seems judging by the comments that the launch was rushed.

If TWC wants to regain there reputation, they need to get rid of their CEO David Kenny. He is mainly responsible for the rapid decline of TWC since 2012 by replacing live weather news and weather documentaries with lame non-weather reality shows as well as replacing full-time veteran OCMs with Freelancers.
 
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: TWCJim on March 10, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
And yet TWC is now airing the so-called "weather" shows as if nothing has happened.  :rolleyes:  I too will give this about a month or two before Verizon and The Weather Channel kiss and make up on a new carriage agreement.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 10, 2015, 08:17:46 PM
Statement from The Weather Channel on Verizon FiOS:

"We were disappointed when late yesterday, March 9, Verizon FiOS dropped The Weather Channel from their lineup while our companies continued to be in active conversations regarding a contract renewal. FiOS customers have enjoyed a bundle of services from The Weather Channel including the network, WeatherScan, On Demand, a Weather Widget and streaming on mobile devices.

During a winter with record-breaking storms and severe weather, The Weather Channel responded with non-stop live coverage, including the ongoing presence of our crews reporting live from hard-hit communities within the Verizon FiOS footprint. This coverage resulted in The Weather Channel being the only major cable network to grow in February.

After recently renewing carriage agreements with NCTC, Cox and Time Warner Cable, we are surprised Verizon FiOS would deny their subscribers access to the best live weather coverage and expertise that only The Weather Channel can provide. They have made it clear to us that they no longer wish to negotiate​,​ despite our desire to continue to serve their subscribers. We urge FiOS customers to contact Verizon and voice their displeasure."

In my opinion, I think Verizon did the right thing but AccuWeather needs to improve as it's launch didn't go too well. It seems judging by the comments that the launch was rushed.

If TWC wants to regain there reputation, they need to get rid of their CEO David Kenny. He is mainly responsible for the rapid decline of TWC since 2012 by replacing live weather news and weather documentaries with lame non-weather reality shows as well as replacing full-time veteran OCMs with Freelancers.

That's not gonna stop the bleeding, the damage is already done. I'm not saying this to be arrogant or snarky, but I think TWC (on the television side, not the website) days are numbered imo. The network is not sustainable long term in the condition it's in currently. They're competing against some stiff competition (internet). Folks don't have time to sit around and wait every 10 minutes for a local forecast and they sure as heck don't have time to wait around for a OCM to maybe mention what the weather is like in their city. It's a losing battle. The same goes for WN and what sounds like a complete joke Accuweather Channel. Kinda ironic that TWC is getting a taste of their own medicine in this way since part of the reason TWC became famous/popular in the first place was because people didn't have time to wait around half an hour or so for a weather forecast from the local news so they turned to TWC to get a faster/frequent forecast.

What's also ironic is I remember within my first year here (2007-2008) there was concern and disapproval over too much long form on TWC back then. Looking back, it's kinda silly because I believe that was the last year TWC was relatively watchable on a daily basis, even during slow weather days when hardly anything was happening. Hell, even the weekends were packed with hours of live programming compared to today. If any of us actually knew what state TWC would be in by 2015, I bet a lot of us would have held onto TWC of 2007/2008 with all dear might!  :lol:
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Steve-O on March 10, 2015, 08:53:17 PM
I saw Tyler's tweet on a boston.com news story about this...
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: twcclassics on March 10, 2015, 08:59:37 PM
If TWC isn't needed anymore because of the internet, why would they replace it with AccuWeather?

I really wish cable channels would stop repeating the lie that such and such cable company decided to drop us. If a cable company's contract with you runs out, they legally cannot continue to air your programming. Likewise, if a cable company has a contract with you, they can't drop you. You have a contract. Of course, it's just a ploy to get you mad at your cable company, even though the channel is most likely asking for more money, and the cable company doesn't want to push the increase on to the consumer.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: WeatherWitness on March 10, 2015, 10:29:40 PM
That's not gonna stop the bleeding, the damage is already done. I'm not saying this to be arrogant or snarky, but I think TWC (on the television side, not the website) days are numbered imo. The network is not sustainable long term in the condition it's in currently. They're competing against some stiff competition (internet). Folks don't have time to sit around and wait every 10 minutes for a local forecast and they sure as heck don't have time to wait around for a OCM to maybe mention what the weather is like in their city. It's a losing battle. The same goes for WN and what sounds like a complete joke Accuweather Channel. Kinda ironic that TWC is getting a taste of their own medicine in this way since part of the reason TWC became famous/popular in the first place was because people didn't have time to wait around half an hour or so for a weather forecast from the local news so they turned to TWC to get a faster/frequent forecast.


You make a couple of good points, Tavores.  It's kind of interesting to see how "impatient" we've become, especially with newer technology.  Back then, I'm sure the every 10-minute Local Forecast was a "thing of the future."  Now, why wait 10 minutes (or even longer during long-form) to see my local forecast which goes too fast and severely lacks in information when I can just look up the weather on my computer, phone, tablet, whatever?  I understand WAAT exists, but that still doesn't provide enough information.

Another thing is that TWC doesn't (and honestly can't) talk about every single city or town affected during a major weather event.  Take this past snowstorm, for example.  All the way from Dallas to the Northeast were people affected, but TWC focused more on the hardest-hit areas like Kentucky and only brushed over the other areas.  Why would I watch TWC wanting to see an OCM not ever (or only briefly) mention my weather when I could get much more up-to-date information from social media or a local news station?

If TWC isn't needed anymore because of the internet, why would they replace it with AccuWeather?

I really wish cable channels would stop repeating the lie that such and such cable company decided to drop us. If a cable company's contract with you runs out, they legally cannot continue to air your programming. Likewise, if a cable company has a contract with you, they can't drop you. You have a contract. Of course, it's just a ploy to get you mad at your cable company, even though the channel is most likely asking for more money, and the cable company doesn't want to push the increase on to the consumer.

I'm sure some of the population who grew up with TWC (obviously not us :P) still watch TWC and refer to it for their weather as that's what they're most used to.  Same thing with DirecTV, replacing TWC with WeatherNation seemed to spark a huge outcry, so removing a "weather channel" completely from the lineup would probably be even worse.

I am also tired of cable channels complaining that a company has "dropped" them.  You're right, Matt.  In this case and every case, the Verizon FiOS contract with TWC ended, and Verizon simply chose not to renew it.  I understand the verb "drop" can mean "removed," which is essentially what happened.  But it's not like Verizon FiOS broke their contract with TWC and abruptly removed the channel for no reason.

When an OCMs contract is not renewed next time, I want them to say that TWC "dropped" them and to retaliate by calling TWC and demanding they bring them back. ;)
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Tyler on March 10, 2015, 10:41:23 PM
I saw Tyler's tweet on a boston.com news story about this...
Can you link me?
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: TampaMillTWC88 on March 10, 2015, 11:10:43 PM
Accuweather has been an accudud so far. All they seem to focus on is the Northeast. And no live or local coverage. I am missing TWC for sure, even in spite of how reality-centric it had become. At least you could still depend on the LOT8s. BTW, I noticed they have a Stephanie Abrams lookalike!  :blink:
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: IceManNYR on March 10, 2015, 11:22:05 PM
http://www.bdcwire.com/verizon-drops-weather-channel/ (http://www.bdcwire.com/verizon-drops-weather-channel/)
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on March 10, 2015, 11:34:55 PM
The Accuweather channel reminds me of The Weather Network in Canada. Although I prefer Accuweather over Weather Nation because the talents are more upbeat. It's like watching a nightly weather report, plus they have maps that fly and tilt like TWC does. The biggest complaint is that they don't have full Local forecasts, just 30 second radar maps with music and it's pre recorded. Accuweather has weather experts perfectly capable of live coverage. I say they have real potential if some fixes were to happen. Although I expect TWC to return along side with Accuweather sometime in the future.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: luesjo12 on March 11, 2015, 09:51:12 AM
TWC just added a new ad to Wunderground's new Storm app. Hopefully TWC doesn't start the "DirecTV War" all over again.  :rolleyes: Expect more ads or commercials. I included a screenshot.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: IceManNYR on March 11, 2015, 10:17:11 AM
The website used when DTV removed TWC after the contract expired is back for Verizon.
http://www.keeptheweatherchannel.com (http://www.keeptheweatherchannel.com)
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: twcclassics on March 11, 2015, 10:24:51 AM
The website used when DTV removed TWC after the contract expired is back for Verizon.
[url]http://www.keeptheweatherchannel.com[/url] ([url]http://www.keeptheweatherchannel.com[/url])

Oh brother. :rolleyes: And of course there are a bunch of ignorant (ie. don't know any better, not necessarily stupid) viewers exclusively blaming Verizon. At least TWC isn't asking them to contact their congressperson.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: jrhtwc on March 11, 2015, 10:40:16 AM
Statement from The Weather Channel on Verizon FiOS:

"We were disappointed when late yesterday, March 9, Verizon FiOS dropped The Weather Channel from their lineup while our companies continued to be in active conversations regarding a contract renewal. FiOS customers have enjoyed a bundle of services from The Weather Channel including the network, WeatherScan, On Demand, a Weather Widget and streaming on mobile devices.

During a winter with record-breaking storms and severe weather, The Weather Channel responded with non-stop live coverage, including the ongoing presence of our crews reporting live from hard-hit communities within the Verizon FiOS footprint. This coverage resulted in The Weather Channel being the only major cable network to grow in February.

After recently renewing carriage agreements with NCTC, Cox and Time Warner Cable, we are surprised Verizon FiOS would deny their subscribers access to the best live weather coverage and expertise that only The Weather Channel can provide. They have made it clear to us that they no longer wish to negotiate​,​ despite our desire to continue to serve their subscribers. We urge FiOS customers to contact Verizon and voice their displeasure."

In my opinion, I think Verizon did the right thing but AccuWeather needs to improve as it's launch didn't go too well. It seems judging by the comments that the launch was rushed.

If TWC wants to regain there reputation, they need to get rid of their CEO David Kenny. He is mainly responsible for the rapid decline of TWC since 2012 by replacing live weather news and weather documentaries with lame non-weather reality shows as well as replacing full-time veteran OCMs with Freelancers.
Does TWC mean they had "Non Stop Coverage" ALL Winter??? If so, that's another NBC Lie!
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: IceManNYR on March 11, 2015, 11:06:38 AM
"The Weather Channel responded with non-stop live coverage".
Not true. As documented here,
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/pathetic-twc-not-showing-weather-tonight/msg192435/#new (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/pathetic-twc-not-showing-weather-tonight/msg192435/#new)
TWC was skipping overnight coverage of winter storms.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 11, 2015, 01:00:05 PM
The website used when DTV removed TWC after the contract expired is back for Verizon.
[url]http://www.keeptheweatherchannel.com[/url] ([url]http://www.keeptheweatherchannel.com[/url])

Oh brother. :rolleyes: And of course there are a bunch of ignorant (ie. don't know any better, not necessarily stupid) viewers exclusively blaming Verizon. At least TWC isn't asking them to contact their congressperson.


Give it time, it's coming... :lol:
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Steve-O on March 13, 2015, 12:05:48 AM
Tyler
http://www.bdcwire.com/verizon-drops-weather-channel/?s_campaign=bcom%3Asocialflow%3Afacebook (http://www.bdcwire.com/verizon-drops-weather-channel/?s_campaign=bcom%3Asocialflow%3Afacebook)
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Jacoby1218 on March 15, 2015, 11:58:33 AM
In Norfolk, VA the feed for AccuWeather HD went down. Anyone else having this problem, or just me?
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Weatherman99 on March 15, 2015, 08:18:25 PM
In Norfolk, VA the feed for AccuWeather HD went down. Anyone else having this problem, or just me?
My feed is just fine  :dunno:
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: TWCC_DJK5555 on March 15, 2015, 09:50:27 PM
Hmmm, where have I seen this before? :rolleyes:  I'll give Verizon a month (which may be generous) before they come to an agreement with TWC and pick the channel back up again.

I'm waiting for TWC to create ads attacking Verizon (like they did with DirecTV)   :D
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Tyler on March 16, 2015, 09:17:09 AM
Hmmm, where have I seen this before? :rolleyes:  I'll give Verizon a month (which may be generous) before they come to an agreement with TWC and pick the channel back up again.

I'm waiting for TWC to create ads attacking Verizon (like they did with DirecTV)   :D
They're all over TWC's website and app already
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: BDRyanWX on March 17, 2015, 12:47:01 AM
Yep, they even have their "Keep The Weather Channel" site up again, and I've seen ads on YouTube videos about it, before I even knew the site was back up.

TWC's really blasting back. No telling with Verizon though, they're stubborn as all get out.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Star4000 Fan on March 18, 2015, 02:18:56 AM
TWC is losing its grip......getting weather information from the TV.   :rolleyes:

They let Kim Cunningham go?  :cry3:
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Metarvo on March 19, 2015, 01:08:47 PM
If only these cable companies would show some backbone and keep TWC dropped, then it would serve TWC right.  :hammer:  Of course, TWC would probably find some way to blackmail them by connecting other channels to TWC.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: BDRyanWX on March 19, 2015, 11:42:35 PM
I think the bigger issue is that Verizon dropped a channel so suddenly, period. I for one do not recall receiving any sort of notification - email, Verizon Message, or otherwise - about any channels being dropped whatsoever, until the day it was actually done, and even then it came like 6 to 7 hours AFTER the fact. They can claim they emailed people but unless I see it in my inbox, it didn't happen (and it's a Verizon inbox at that).

Anyway, THAT is what really got people angry, and the fact they did it to TWC...yeah. As many rants as people can come up with about TWC and where it is today (and believe me I know there's a *LOT*), there's just as many who can rant about Verizon's actions too and how illogical they were. And yes the excuse they tried to use is crap - and full of hypocrisy, otherwise they wouldn't have replaced it with another weather source. Hence TWC's reaction to it.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: alex979 on March 25, 2015, 10:21:09 PM
Anyone know what Accuweather has been doing tonight? Are they covering the severe storms and tornadoes live like TWC? If not, this could be a turning point for TWC and Verizon.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: jrhtwc on March 25, 2015, 10:46:38 PM
Anyone know what Accuweather has been doing tonight? Are they covering the severe storms and tornadoes live like TWC? If not, this could be a turning point for TWC and Verizon.
Good Point, TWC did well tonight and still is. I didn't watch WN all night, did anyone? Just wondering if they did some live coverage since it looks like DISH will get WN next week. I wish it didn't have to take severe weather to do this!

Sorry to those in OK and other states!
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Adrian on March 30, 2015, 04:08:20 PM
http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/twc-boss-accuweather-can-not-serve-viewers-during-severe-weather-like-we-can/259447 (http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/twc-boss-accuweather-can-not-serve-viewers-during-severe-weather-like-we-can/259447)

"TWC Boss: ‘Accuweather Can Not Serve Viewers During Severe Weather Like We Can’"
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: TWCJim on March 30, 2015, 04:31:01 PM
The Weather Channel ad campaign (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_XP6XBDEd4#ws)

*waits for AccuWeather's counterattack ad*  :whistling2:
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on March 30, 2015, 05:38:27 PM
The Weather Channel ad campaign ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_XP6XBDEd4#ws[/url])

*waits for AccuWeather's counterattack ad*  :whistling2:

They already have

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ccuWeather’s CEO, Barry Myers, counters the ad campaign is “misleading” since its network is not even broadcast in Oklahoma. “Of course we didn’t go wall-to-wall and cover Oklahoma, because we’re not on the air there,” Myers said.

(Verizon FiOS, which carries AccuWeather’s television network, is only available in select markets along the East Coast, in Texas, and parts of California.)

The AccuWeather Channel, Myers said, targets local markets with their local weather. “The fact that [The Weather Channel] was covering the tornado all the time in Moore, doesn’t matter to people in Boston,” he said.

Myers distinguished his company’s network, which airs only straight weather coverage – from the multiple reality shows broadcast on The Weather Channel. “In 168 hours of week, the amount of programming they have devoted to real weather is really small,” Myers said. “People need to judge what that means. “People need to ask themselves what The Weather Channel is so afraid of,” Myers added. “They’ve had a virtual monopoly for 30-some years. They almost lost with DirecTV , and they have lost with Verizon. Competition is good, and it offers people choice and strengthens products.”
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: alex979 on March 30, 2015, 05:43:49 PM
I'm going to have to side with TWC on this one. Accuweather chose not to cover a major weather event live, and then had the audacity to take shots at the NWS... not too classy. I know Accu isn't on in Oklahoma right now, but as Gawker's "The Vane" commented...
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However, you would think that a brand new network that wants to take the place of an established behemoth like The Weather Channel would flex their muscles and prove to both the public and to cable/satellite companies across the country that they can carry the torch during a major weather event. What better way to sell your channel to the masses than show that, even during a rapidly unfolding severe weather outbreak in Oklahoma, you've got this, and you can compete with the blue behemoth in Atlanta?
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Weatherman99 on March 30, 2015, 08:36:58 PM
Oh geez! This conflict is really kind of exciting me. This dogfight is gonna be a good one! For once, TWC didn't show long form programming during a severe storm? Kudos to The Weather Channel and David Clark.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: WeatherWitness on March 30, 2015, 11:41:41 PM
That TWC ad makes me laugh. :lol:

Important question, though.  That CEO message had a statement in parentheses which said that AccuWeather is also in Texas.  Wouldn't it make sense showing coverage of Oklahoma storms anyway?  People in Texas would probably want to be informed.  In addition, if AccuWeather wants to compete with TWC, they're going to need to do that.  I personally would rather watch coverage of storms than zoo animals.  Also, I'm not sure why the CEO mentioned just Boston as not caring about the coverage.  Isn't the AccuWeather Channel in places other than Boston?  Just further emphasizes the fact that AccuWeather is a Northeast weather company that only cares about the Northeast. :rolleyes:  Poor Texas and California.

Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: TWCJim on March 31, 2015, 09:14:22 PM
Well played Accuweather!  :lol:

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc475/TWCJim/accuwx_zpshsubzhcm.jpg)
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: toxictwister00 on March 31, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
Accuweather and TWC are truly sad, pathetic cases now. This back and forth stuff was cute for about a hot second, but at this point it's pity. What is this high school? I just hope this crap doesn't drag on like the DirecTV/TWC debacle did.

I think this pretty much sums up TWC/Accuweather's behaviors pretty well.
Maggie and Jake Argue - Family Guy - S06E02 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2tItOIRag#)
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Weatherman99 on March 31, 2015, 11:49:44 PM
lol I agree. But this battle is rather entertaining IMO. I would love to see which awful channel will  get prospect and which channel is going to be nailed. What if TWC and AccuWeather get into a messaging fight? The possibilities are endless!

Oh and AccuWeather didn't show live coverage. It was still pre-recorded. So I'm not sure if that was just a hoax to get back at the weather channel.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on April 01, 2015, 01:45:42 PM
This is all just ridiculous. TWC acts like cry babies and does everything they can to start a war. Hey TWC, you fired over a 100 meteorologists and weather producers in the last 2 years. With that you can't reliably produce weather coverage enough. Its all half f(ass)t! While I agree severe wx should be covered, AccuWeather does have a point saying they're not in the market. I would've covered it but Accuwx is right either way for now.
So Accu still hasn't proved themselves yet. So let them fight, if they want to be that way let them suffer their own consequences
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: WeatherWitness on April 01, 2015, 09:01:27 PM
Honestly, this is competition happening right before our eyes.  Before WN and AccuWeather, TWC was the only on-air weather "channel."  Now they've got competition, albeit very little as of right now since WN and AccuWeather are still very far behind TWC.  Of course, to deal with the competition it would be better for TWC to show more weather and cut long-form rather than use the pointing fingers ads and acting like children, but I guess that's just what they want to do.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: alex979 on April 01, 2015, 11:11:27 PM
Honestly, this is competition happening right before our eyes.  Before WN and AccuWeather, TWC was the only on-air weather "channel."  Now they've got competition, albeit very little as of right now since WN and AccuWeather are still very far behind TWC.  Of course, to deal with the competition it would be better for TWC to show more weather and cut long-form rather than use the pointing fingers ads and acting like children, but I guess that's just what they want to do.

I'm actually hoping that FIOS will bring back TWC and that some other providers will pick up Accuweather, so we can have some direct competition. Since no one currently has access to both networks on cable right now, there really isn't an opportunity for consumers to choose between the two, yet.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: WeatherWitness on April 02, 2015, 04:22:14 PM
Honestly, this is competition happening right before our eyes.  Before WN and AccuWeather, TWC was the only on-air weather "channel."  Now they've got competition, albeit very little as of right now since WN and AccuWeather are still very far behind TWC.  Of course, to deal with the competition it would be better for TWC to show more weather and cut long-form rather than use the pointing fingers ads and acting like children, but I guess that's just what they want to do.

I'm actually hoping that FIOS will bring back TWC and that some other providers will pick up Accuweather, so we can have some direct competition. Since no one currently has access to both networks on cable right now, there really isn't an opportunity for consumers to choose between the two, yet.

Yes, that would be nice.  I believe DirecTV is the only provider right now that carries two weather channels: TWC and WN.  I'll be curious to figure out which one takes a bigger leap with its presentation: WN or AccuWeather   As I previously stated, both are very primitive when compared to TWC.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: weatherfan_2013 on April 03, 2015, 01:22:08 PM
I am speechless  :rofl2:
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: jrhtwc on April 08, 2015, 10:08:30 PM
For anyone that FIOS, Any update on Accuweather. Are they doing better now? Are they live in the evenings?  There's been no buzz lately on if TWC will come back to FIOS
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Weatherman99 on April 08, 2015, 11:25:43 PM
It's mainly just forecasts. They added more locations to their weather scroll, but AccuWeather hasn't changed very much lately.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Tyler on April 08, 2015, 11:32:07 PM
I dont understand why they haven't removed channel 49 from the lineup (where Weatherscan used to be). They just have this image saying "This channel no longer exists." Why not remove it from the guide/lineup??
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Weatherman99 on April 09, 2015, 12:14:15 AM
Well there's a little pop-up for the Weatherbug widget that Verizon uses and it says "For your local forecast, press the FiOS TV button."
Still, it's very useless. No need to run a channel and transmit it just for a minor purpose.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: luesjo12 on April 13, 2015, 07:08:08 PM
Verizon FiOS and The Weather Channel have officially ended their negotiations. TWC is now urging people to change  TV providers, according to keeptheweatherchannel.com:
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Our efforts to reach a resolution with Verizon FiOS have ended.
Along with you, we hoped that FiOS would reverse their decision to drop The Weather Channel. Unfortunately, even a lower price and customer outrage did not move them.

Charging you a premium price and then offering you an inferior weather resource is a disservice to you.

Find your new provider today!
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: jrhtwc on April 13, 2015, 07:17:37 PM
Verizon FiOS and The Weather Channel have officially ended their negotiations. TWC is now urging people to change  TV providers, according to keeptheweatherchannel.com:
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Our efforts to reach a resolution with Verizon FiOS have ended.
Along with you, we hoped that FiOS would reverse their decision to drop The Weather Channel. Unfortunately, even a lower price and customer outrage did not move them.

Charging you a premium price and then offering you an inferior weather resource is a disservice to you.

Find your new provider today!

I don't know who's right here, if Accuweather's still not live or not live very often, esp. during severe weather, then why wouldn't FIOS listen to the Customer outrage?

But if Accu is now growing there's should be some love for it.  Wonder what TWC will do next week if/when DISH drops them???(I'm still hoping DISH just adds WN)
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: Weatherman99 on April 13, 2015, 09:07:11 PM
Verizon FiOS and The Weather Channel have officially ended their negotiations. TWC is now urging people to change  TV providers, according to keeptheweatherchannel.com:
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Our efforts to reach a resolution with Verizon FiOS have ended.
Along with you, we hoped that FiOS would reverse their decision to drop The Weather Channel. Unfortunately, even a lower price and customer outrage did not move them.

Charging you a premium price and then offering you an inferior weather resource is a disservice to you.

Find your new provider today!
Darn. It looks like an end of an era. I just don't know what's going on in the minds of the corporate owners of both TWC & FiOS. Shocking to see the weather channel give up negotiating. I enjoyed watching weatherscan during severe t-storm warnings because the STAR would automatically receive updates to an issued warning instantly. Like I said, I don't know what the CEOs are thinking, but it's sad to see I'll never get TWC back. And right now, I'm not able to switch providers because I'm in a contract. Oh Verizon... :club:
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: WeatherWitness on April 14, 2015, 12:06:47 AM
IIRC, DirecTV and TWC supposedly "ended their negotiations."  And look what happened.  Eventually DirecTV brought TWC back to their channel lineup.  While it may be a few months, I suspect the same will happen with FiOS.  Unfortunately there is no good alternative to TWC as WN and AW are years behind TWC.  Only until those channels advance do I think a cable company will be able to drop TWC permanently in favor of another "weather" channel.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: shc1 on April 15, 2015, 09:09:24 AM
AccuWeather's Audio feed has been fixed, but it still is crap. it just feels rushed and since the feed is national unlike TWC which was local they run around from city to city. You pretty much have to wait 15 minutes for your city's 5 seconds of weather. The main reason I don't like AccuWeather is that is does't give my city's weather. I live in Bradenton but it only gives the weather for Miami and Tampa. They spend too much of their time focusing on the upper half of the USA. Ever since Verizon dropped TWC i have been using the TWC app to get my weather becasue AccuWeather is not worth my time. I really hope Verizon and TWC come to an agreement.
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: alex979 on June 02, 2015, 02:24:59 PM
Well, this is... odd.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/verizon-prepared-to-weather-the-storm-this-hurricane-season-300092025.html (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/verizon-prepared-to-weather-the-storm-this-hurricane-season-300092025.html)

"With the 10th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina looming and a total of nine named storms expected this season by The Weather Channel, Verizon is prepared to help consumers weather any storm and stay connected."
Title: Re: VZ FiOS dropped TWC
Post by: luesjo12 on June 02, 2015, 02:48:28 PM
The Weather Channel Tweeted this Out:
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We appreciate that @VZWNews values our coverage - Imagine if @VerizonFiOS did the same. #BringBackTWC