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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => TWC and your Cable Company => Topic started by: willh699 on May 20, 2010, 04:40:40 PM
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if you have Dish Network like me, you may lose the Weather Channel soon as Dish Network is the first cable/Satellite provider to have a dispute with The Weather Channel.
here's a statement on Dish's website:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/weather (http://www.dishnetwork.com/weather)
this is really looking bad for Dish Network customer who are fans of the Weather Channel, but at least Dish is launching an new weather network to replace it, which might be better then long form programs and movies. but it's still not the Weather Channel, you need to contact both The Weather Channel and Dish Network if you want to keep The Weather Channel on Dish Network,
if not, make the switch to DirecTV or Cable.
let's hope NBC Universal cracks and and makes sure The Weather Channel stays on Dish.
i rather have both The Weather Channel and The Weather Cast then to lose one of them.
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That sucks, but I hate DIsh Network with a passion so this is just another reason for me to avoid them. :)
EDIT: Change of thought, I have to concur with some of the reasons that Dish is doing to drop TWC. TWC shows little and little weather coverage by the months so seeing WeatherCast replacing TWC is viable since they're gonna offer 24/7 weather coverage. I hope it's localized and they play smooth jazz
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I hope this teaches TWC a lesson that what they are doing is wrong. Apparently there are tons of viewers besides us who hate the "weathertainment" as he's calling it.
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Well, they also say that their contract was coming up and there were rate increases at stake:
"Our contract with The Weather Channel is expiring and they are demanding unreasonable contract terms that would impact customer pricing."
Most people who play Charlie Ergen curveball lose the game and get back on Dish.
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I couldn't agree with Dish more, That's TWC's fault for putting on movies and long form programming on a channel that's supposed to be dedicated to Weather Coverage not entertainment :hmm:
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This is shocking news. :O My parents are considering switching to Dish later on this summer but now, I might change my mind.
Looks like it's already in effect (or will be) since the signal will be gone today (May 20th).
And this "new weather network"... this has me wondering... :thinking:
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Something tells me DirecTV could follow down this same path because the channel isn't doing what it's made for. But after all, viewers' LF wishes came true back on September 25, 2008.
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As a DISH customer myself, I really don't care. I agree with DISH's reasons for doing this, and I don't think that TWC is worth that extra penny per month...if that's what it is. I'll have a real rant on my blog. Here's your disclaimer: there'll be a LOT of <censored>s.
EDIT: Posted. (http://jonnytee96.xtreemhost.com/blog/2010/05/20/reaction-to-dish-networks-dropping-of-twc/)
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Ok, I was about to post a new topic about this, but I came across this one..........
:offtopic: well, it is kinda off topic, because it is a fail, but it isn't off topic because it shows the L3RD's that show this message.....but, these were taken during PME..........spot the fail!
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It'll be funny if DirecTV were to do the samething. :P
I found another article on this on the Wall Street Journal's website on this. This quote makes TWC sound very desperate. If DISH viewers told DISH to drop your network why would they ask DISH to keep your network? :rolleyes:
"We are disappointed with their decision and hopeful that we can still reach an agreement with DISH Network and bring this highly valued network back to its customers," said The Weather Channel's Powell. "In the meantime, we are urging our viewers to contact Direct TV or their local cable or telco provider to receive The Weather Channel."
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100520-715627.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100520-715627.html)
UPDATE: TWC is announcing this on their Lowerthirds to DISH customers right now.
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Trevor, I don't see the fail. :no:
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if DirecTV did the same thing.
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The fail is that they are showing WC L3RD's during PME.
I'll like to see how this all play's out tonight!
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Trevor, I don't see the fail. :no:
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if DirecTV did the same thing.
But with DirecTV, you actually have a local weather app that cues as the LOT8s so you DO get a forecast.
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Yea, I would have to agree with Evan. At least DirecTV is trying to squeeze the best out of satellite by making the DirecTV LF App.
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Something tells me DirecTV could follow down this same path because the channel isn't doing what it's made for. But after all, viewers' LF wishes came true back on September 25, 2008.
I doubt it will happen with DirecTV. TWC and DirecTV wouldn't have spent a ton of time and money developing the DirecTV LF app for it to all go down the drain two years later.
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Something tells me DirecTV could follow down this same path because the channel isn't doing what it's made for. But after all, viewers' LF wishes came true back on September 25, 2008.
I doubt it will happen with DirecTV. TWC and DirecTV wouldn't have spent a ton of time and money developing the DirecTV LF app for it to all go down the drain two years later.
I bet Dish was the same when their TWC app was developed although it was nowhere near as complex as DirecTV's.
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I hope DirecTV does this. This will teach TWC and NBCU a lesson about their content and how they're actually SUPPOSED to be a weather channel, and not a weather entertainment network.
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Something tells me DirecTV could follow down this same path because the channel isn't doing what it's made for. But after all, viewers' LF wishes came true back on September 25, 2008.
I doubt it will happen with DirecTV. TWC and DirecTV wouldn't have spent a ton of time and money developing the DirecTV LF app for it to all go down the drain two years later.
Neither that nor would they have made the interactive app on DISH...
*cough cough*
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Not to mention it took TWC two years to develop that weather app.
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I was wondering what was going on when i saw the weather cast instead of the weather channel haha.
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The Weather Channel's fan page on Facebook is lit up with rants about this subject. Most of them saying something to the effect of "The Weather Cast is AWESOME! Good riddance, TWC!"
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Does anyone know if the new weather channel on DIsh, plays production or jazzy music?
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Can anyone get pics of this "Weather Cast?"
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Wow, this is surprising. I'm a long-time Dish customer and knew nothing about this. Just tuned to 214 and they've already taken TWC off the air. Oh wait, they just moved it to 213. TWC is talking about the oil spill now. Good. When I think about oil spill news, I think of TWC. :rolleyes:
I haven't really watched the channel since being forced to leave cable for satellite several years ago, so I can't say I'm going to miss it. And I'm certainly not going to use this as an excuse to change providers.
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Look at TWC's facebook page. It's FULL of complaints saying that they're glad DISH removed them. :)
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I am a bit surprised but when TWC charges outrageous amounts for its programming, something close to 8 bucks a subscriber and want more.... well these things happen. More then likely DISH is the one during severe weather thats gets bitched at when TWC fails to carry local weather programming since they have no STAR.
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Look at TWC's facebook page. It's FULL of complaints saying that they're glad DISH removed them. :)
Maybe these posts will get some sense into TWC's head......oh wait.....not gonna happen......it's TWC. (LOL)
The Weather Channel's fan page on Facebook is lit up with rants about this subject. Most of them saying something to the effect of "The Weather Cast is AWESOME! Good riddance, TWC!"
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Google won't tell me anything about it, so don't bother googling.
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I just got Dish HD for my room (had Dish SD before) and I'm am so mad !!! Have you guys seen The Weather Cast? while the graphics and the LDL looks nice, the people are not TWC quality! ACCUweather looks better! I say Dish should keep both
BTW,
after I restarted Dish Weather cast is on 213 and TWC is still on 214,
SO when is TWC leaving? or did Dish already save it?
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I am a bit surprised but when TWC charges outrageous amounts for its programming, something close to 8 bucks a subscriber and want more.... well these things happen. More then likely DISH is the one during severe weather thats gets bitched at when TWC fails to carry local weather programming since they have no STAR.
$8 per subscriber? This article (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/05/relations-between-weather-channel-and-dish-network-get-stormy.html) says it's $0.11 per subscriber per month, which is $1.32 per year, and apparently that's pretty low for a cable network.
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I just got Dish HD for my room (had Dish SD before) and I'm am so mad !!! Have you guys seen The Weather Cast? while the graphics and the LDL looks nice, the people are not TWC quality! ACCUweather looks better! I say Dish should keep both
BTW,
after I restarted Dish Weather cast is on 213 and TWC is still on 214,
SO when is TWC leaving? or did Dish already save it?
Midnight Tonight.
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I just got Dish HD for my room (had Dish SD before) and I'm am so mad !!! Have you guys seen The Weather Cast? while the graphics and the LDL looks nice, the people are not TWC quality! ACCUweather looks better! I say Dish should keep both
BTW,
after I restarted Dish Weather cast is on 213 and TWC is still on 214,
SO when is TWC leaving? or did Dish already save it?
Can you get us pics of The Weather Cast? Thanks :D
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I just got Dish HD for my room (had Dish SD before) and I'm am so mad !!! Have you guys seen The Weather Cast? while the graphics and the LDL looks nice, the people are not TWC quality! ACCUweather looks better! I say Dish should keep both
BTW,
after I restarted Dish Weather cast is on 213 and TWC is still on 214,
SO when is TWC leaving? or did Dish already save it?
Can you get us pics of The Weather Cast? Thanks :D
krishi is uploading a video on YT
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I am a bit surprised but when TWC charges outrageous amounts for its programming, something close to 8 bucks a subscriber and want more.... well these things happen. More then likely DISH is the one during severe weather thats gets bitched at when TWC fails to carry local weather programming since they have no STAR.
$8 per subscriber? This article ([url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/05/relations-between-weather-channel-and-dish-network-get-stormy.html[/url]) says it's $0.11 per subscriber per month, which is $1.32 per year, and apparently that's pretty low for a cable network.
Hmm guess I was wrong. I was told that a while back for cable subs with a star
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I am a bit surprised but when TWC charges outrageous amounts for its programming, something close to 8 bucks a subscriber and want more.... well these things happen. More then likely DISH is the one during severe weather thats gets bitched at when TWC fails to carry local weather programming since they have no STAR.
$8 per subscriber? This article ([url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/05/relations-between-weather-channel-and-dish-network-get-stormy.html[/url]) says it's $0.11 per subscriber per month, which is $1.32 per year, and apparently that's pretty low for a cable network.
Hmm guess I was wrong. I was told that a while back for cable subs with a star
I suppose they could have different subscriber rates based on whether a local STAR is installed or not. Maybe just a base TWC subscription with no local STAR (satellite like Dish and DirecTV, or AT&T U-verse) is cheaper than those providers who choose to carry a local STAR.
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IIRC, cable companies are required to have a STAR installed, otherwise they can't carry TWC.
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I must admit this move really surprises me. Of course, I didn't know what was involved between Dish and TWC beforehand.
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My mother just called Dish, Dish saved TWC!!!
TWC WILL go off at midnight tonight then wait 24 hours and then it will be back on. I believe Dish is keeping both (weather cast and weather channel.)
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Awwwwww man! Dish is stupid for that
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My mother just called Dish, Dish saved TWC!!!
All it takes is money haha
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I will say that DISH said they had gotten complaints from customers. Wonder why... :whistling:
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Wait. I'm lost. So it's not going off after all?
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That sucks, I was hoping for them to go forward with their plans, but now I don't see that happening :(
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Wait. I'm lost. So it's not going off after all?
No
the new contract must start SAT morning so Dish and TWC will end their current contract tonight, wait a day and startup again.
someonealso said that on TWC's Facebook page
Good for Dish!!!
While I agree TWC doesn't show enough Weather coverage I would not go this far. After I saw the people on The Weather Cast I'm so glad we 're kepping both!
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wtf... this is confusing. So Dish plans to get rid of TWC, yet they save it and plans to keep both TWC and The Weather Cast? I was honestly hoping things would go as planned earlier. And I don't see anything that says TWC will remain on Dish.
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wtf... this is confusing. So Dish plans to get rid of TWC, yet they save it and plans to keep both TWC and The Weather Cast? I was honestly hoping things would go as planned earlier. And I don't see anything that says TWC will remain on Dish.
Lookon TWC's Face book page
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If that's the case they need to stop advertising it on their website. <_<
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They just took down their page http://www.dishnetwork.com/weather/ (http://www.dishnetwork.com/weather/)
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Not much info here, but Paul Douglas (and his 2 year old company WeatherNation) is the one fronting The Weather Cast...
@pdouglasweather: Just launched competition for TWC on Dish. Could sure use your support - check it out and spread the word. Another weather voice in town!
I'll keep watching, cause Douglas and his company are located in the Twin Cities... theres gotta be something popping up in the local papers about it soon...
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Nothing official on TWC staying yet but we shall see
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As a DISH customer myself, I really don't care. I agree with DISH's reasons for doing this, and I don't think that TWC is worth that extra penny per month...if that's what it is. I'll have a real rant on my blog. Here's your disclaimer: there'll be a LOT of <censored>s.
EDIT: Posted. ([url]http://jonnytee96.xtreemhost.com/blog/2010/05/20/reaction-to-dish-networks-dropping-of-twc/[/url])
Don't forget to make fun of dish RSN HD joke as well.
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With the loss of DISH, TWC could loose 1/6th of its viewers. Quite a big chunk
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If we estimate Dish is 14 million subs and we know TWC just became the second cabler to pass the 100 million mark behind TBS...
that is just under 3/20 or under 1/6 of subs to lose.
But as I said, those who play Charlie Ergen Curveball always surrender.
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it's Midnight Eastern Time, and The Weather Channel is still on, i wonder which time zone they meant was when it was gonna go off
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If any time, maybe Mountain or Pacific. Dish Network's HQ and uplink facilities are in Denver and Cheyenne.
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it's Midnight Eastern Time, and The Weather Channel is still on, i wonder which time zone they meant was when it was gonna go off
Pacific? :bleh:
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TWC page
http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/CustomerMessage.html (http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/CustomerMessage.html)
Lame video trying to use the sadness and destruction of the past tornado outbreaks so they can make money
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TWC page
[url]http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/CustomerMessage.html[/url] ([url]http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/CustomerMessage.html[/url])
Lame video trying to use the sadness and destruction of the past tornado outbreaks so they can make money
In other news...they didn't forecast it, the NWS did.
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12:12 AM Central time and it's still on, and now we see if The Weather Channel is removed from the Dish Lineup at 1AM Central time or 2AM Central time.
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12:12 AM Central time and it's still on, and now we see if The Weather Channel is removed from the Dish Lineup at 1AM Central time or 2AM Central time.
According to http://www.deadline.com/hollywood, (http://www.deadline.com/hollywood,)
UPDATE: DISH reportedly has agreed to keep The Weather Channel on while the two sides continue to negotiate.
Meanwhile... I know this is a Weather Channel board... but it might be worth reading what the founder of the new "The WeatherCast" station has to say... its a little long so I will just send you the link to the statement: http://pauldouglassaintcloud.blogspot.com/ (http://pauldouglassaintcloud.blogspot.com/)
Powerful statement, especially where he says There are what, 6-8 different new/business channels out there - I believe there's room for another weather-voice, another way to tell the weather story.
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Has anyone with Dish gotten video of this new channel or the new interactive forecast feature?
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Weather Cast Channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jt0u1NevQY#)
Thanks to Wxstar101 for uploading.
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Well it is still on this morning. :D I guess I am like a sports fan supporting a team on a losing streak. I grew up watching TWC and I would hate to loose it. However, due to their scheduling, I rarely watch it anymore. Many, many times I turn to it to see what is going on around the country and they have a stupid show on. :angry: Or I have to wait hours to see my local forecast. (other than the NWS on my website) I definitely would not want my Dish bill to increase because of it. I hope this is the "wake-up-call" to put them back on track. If not, and Dish finds another weather source that actually shows the weather, I won't miss TWC for that long. ;)
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I think they're likely keeping TWC and The Weather Cast on DishTV at the same time as a competition. I guess they probably believe if TWC has competition, that they'll try to provide more Weather Coverage..or at least thats my guess.
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My mother just called Dish, Dish saved TWC!!!
TWC WILL go off at midnight tonight then wait 24 hours and then it will be back on. I believe Dish is keeping both (weather cast and weather channel.)
They already caved? Lame! :rolleyes:
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It's Official
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100521-709328.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100521-709328.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines)
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This was a lame move but oh well it's Dish's idea. BTW, how long do you think this new Weathercast channel will last for?
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The moral of the story:
"Our customers always tell us that the only thing they want in a weather channel is weather reporting," said Dave Shull, senior vice president of programming with Dish, in a statement released Thursday. "We believe The Weather Cast is the best available weather service in America."
put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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What a coincidence TWC decided not to show the movie tonight
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TWC page
[url]http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/CustomerMessage.html[/url] ([url]http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/CustomerMessage.html[/url])
Lame video trying to use the sadness and destruction of the past tornado outbreaks so they can make money
You think they payed people to say that they were watching TWC during the tornado, or even worse, threatened to kill them... :o :P
While I feel sorry for the DISH users out there who will lose TWC, I also think (maybe not, though) it teaches TWC/NBC/whoever a lesson. :yes: Funny that they are cancelling the movie tonight, too. Do you know why, Martin? :dunno:
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Severe weather is the obvious reason, but there has to be another. :thinking:
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Guess Dish got my complaint e-mail. I hate to see them go. But it is a nice gesture to give us an alternative when Weather Channel wants to pretend to be Discovery or a movie network.
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you know.. i think Frank Batten is rolling in his grave.
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This also means that subscribers of Dish's Cable subsidiary Ygnition (http://www.ygnition.com) no longer have TWC either.
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While I feel sorry for the DISH users out there who will lose TWC, I also think (maybe not, though) it teaches TWC/NBC/whoever a lesson. :yes: Funny that they are cancelling the movie tonight, too. Do you know why, Martin? :dunno:
Trying to suck up ti DISH probably ;)
Severe weather is the obvious reason, but there has to be another. :thinking:
Its this little thing called $$$$$
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Severe weather is the obvious reason, but there has to be another. :thinking:
Its this little thing called $$$$$
That's another obvious reason. :P
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looks like the Dispute is officially over, as i just put on The Weather Channel and noticed something that was MIA the past few days, and that something was the LDL bar during the LOT8s, so i'm guessing they turned off the Satellite Intellistar that shows the LOT8s/LDL bar during the last few days.
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looks like the Dispute is officially over, as i just put on The Weather Channel and noticed something that was MIA the past few days, and that something was the LDL bar during the LOT8s, so i'm guessing they turned off the Satellite Intellistar that shows the LOT8s/LDL bar during the last few days.
AFAIK, the LF LDL on Dish was disabled back in March when the blue LDL was replaced.
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looks like the Dispute is officially over, as i just put on The Weather Channel and noticed something that was MIA the past few days, and that something was the LDL bar during the LOT8s, so i'm guessing they turned off the Satellite Intellistar that shows the LOT8s/LDL bar during the last few days.
AFAIK, the LF LDL on Dish was disabled back in March when the blue LDL was replaced.
but they re-enabled in a while back, i mentioned in i think was the "New LDL bar" thread
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just giving everyone an head up, The Weather Channel will go dark this morning at 3AM ET/12 AM PT for 30 mins to an hour, as well as The Weather Cast and most of the channels on Dish Network.
the reason: Dish Network is moving these channels off a Satellite to another new Satellite in the same location. The satellite that these channels are one right now is known as Echostar 7, which is located at 119.0°W and the one it's moving to is called Echostar 14, which will become the new 119.0°W satellite in space. so Dish Customers, don't worry about why The Weather Channel is gone. it won't go away, just go dark for this satellite transition.
i been following the carriage disputed and the 119.0°W transition on a satellite TV forum site called Satelliteguys.us. that's where i got the news about Dish's threat to pull The Weather Channel from.
edit: actually, it's this morning, not tonight since it's after midnight here.
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Looks like the dispute has been resolved.
DISH Network and The Weather Channel Reach Agreement
Includes development of new full-time weather forecasting services
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. and ATLANTA, May 24, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX News Network/ -- DISH Network L.L.C. and The Weather Channel today announced that they have reached a multi-year agreement for continued distribution of The Weather Channel on DISH Network's programming platform.
The deal provides for collaboration between both companies in developing state-of-the-art, full-time weather forecasting services designed specifically for satellite customers, including localized weather programming on DISH Network Ch. 213 (in addition to The Weather Channel's main feed on Ch. 214), interactive TV applications, as well as new Internet and mobile services.
Deployment of the new services will begin this summer.
"Through this new partnership with The Weather Channel, DISH Network is giving our subscribers exactly what they've asked for and more. Not only are we developing a unique satellite service that provides localized weather 24/7, but also we'll soon deliver personalized weather reports via the Android mobile platform and the web," said Dave Shull, senior vice president of Programming for DISH Network. "This agreement recognizes the importance of cross-platform video delivery, ensuring that our subscribers will have the most detailed local weather information available at their fingertips anytime, anywhere."
"DISH Network and their customers are extremely important to us, and maintaining and expanding our partnership is a high priority for our company," said Mike Kelly, CEO and President of The Weather Channel. "DISH Network will now be carrying two of our channels - The Weather Channel and a customized 24-hour, all-local weather information network - to provide even better service to their customers. We also look forward to working with DISH Network on other cross-platform and interactive initiatives, taking advantage of our leadership position in mobile and the Internet."
Additional terms of the deal were not disclosed.
About DISH Network
DISH Network L.L.C., a subsidiary of DISH Network Corporation (Nasdaq: DISH), leads the pay-TV industry in technological breakthroughs and provides more than 14.3 million satellite TV customers, as of March 31, 2010, with the highest quality programming and technology at the best value. Customers have access to the most HD channels, the most international channels, state-of-the-art interactive TV applications, and award-winning HD and DVR technology including the ViP 922 SlingLoaded DVR, the world's only DVR with TV Everywhere functionality. DISH Network Corporation is included in the Nasdaq-100 Index (NDX) and is a Fortune 200 company. Visit www.dish.com (http://www.dish.com), follow on Twitter, @dishnetwork (DISH Network (dishnetwork) on Twitter), or become a Fan on Facebook, www.facebook.com/dishnetwork (http://www.facebook.com/dishnetwork).
About The Weather Channel Companies
The Weather Channel Companies (TWCC) is made up of The Weather Channel television network, The Weather Channel digital properties, and Weather Services International (WSI). The Weather Channel(R) is based in Atlanta and is seen in more than 100 million U.S. households. TWC also operates Weatherscan, a 24-hour all-local weather network and seen in 20 of the top 25 markets; The Weather Channel Radio Network; and The Weather Channel HD. The digital properties of TWC, which include the weather.com(R) site, The Weather Channel Desktop and The Weather Channel Mobile, reach more than 40 million unique users online each month and is the most popular source of online weather, news and information according to Nielsen//NetRatings. WSI, headquartered in Andover, MA, primarily provides business-to-business weather services, particularly for the media, aviation, marine and energy sectors. TWCC is owned by a consortium made up of NBC Universal and the private equity firms The Blackstone Group and Bain Capital. For more information, visit www.weather.com/press (http://www.weather.com/press).
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/214277-dish-network-weather-channel-reach-renewal.html (http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/214277-dish-network-weather-channel-reach-renewal.html)
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The Weather Cast posted this on their FB page
UPDATE: The Weather Cast will no longer be available on Dish Network, channel 213. Dish Network and The Weather Channel will be bringing you a new service with your local weather information
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Dang.. beat me to it.
This means..... The Weather Cast will no longer be available now that TWC has finally agreed with Dish.
Awwww, but the rivalry was just getting good!!!! Oh well. :whistling:
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Just as long as I can get the weather when I want and not have to sit through movies, morning shows, weather stories, annoying commercials for a channel I am already watching, etc... It doesn't matter to me if it is The Weather Channel (TWC) or The Weather Cast (TWC) just as long as my bill does not go up!
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Yes, it has been resolved, apparently...
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/generalities/weather_channel_dish_network_strike_deal_162448.asp?c=rss (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/generalities/weather_channel_dish_network_strike_deal_162448.asp?c=rss)
"A spokesperson for Weather declined to comment on how much more the channel was getting in affiliate fees (the network was previously receiving approximately 11 cents per subscriber, according to SNL Kagan), but noted that the new agreement includes a second channel, interactive TV features and mobile applications. The second channel will be located next to Weather on DISH's lineup, at channel 213, and will feature localized weather reports. It will also be taking the place of DISH's Weather Cast service, which the satellite operator was threatening to replace Weather with on its lineup."
The exact opposite of what was needed, but the fact that Charlie wanted to play hardball should be a huge wake up call for the channel.
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This sounds similar to WeatherScan... but man... I'm not happy. :no:
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This is stupid. TWC really needed this as a lesson and instead they're getting the exact opposite. I had a feeling WeatherCast was gonna be gone :(
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Courtesy of Satelliteguys.us and it's founder Scott Greczkowski:
this is a picture of the message that people are seeing on Channel 213, which was home to The Weather Cast:
(http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=51485&d=1274715689)
so that means The Weather Cast is no more on Dish. the dispute is finally over, thank god.
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I thought I saw images somewhere on the internet to where The Weather Cast's local app was exactly the same one TWC had for Dish, but with different icons and a different logo. :thinking:
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IIRC, that was on Photobucket :yes:
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Is The Weather Cast on anywhere else?
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Is The Weather Cast on anywhere else?
Nope. it's gone. It's not on air anywhere.
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Well I hope their website remains online, I really like how it's set up.
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I'm curious as to what they are replacing it with. Though it looks like someone (not trying to point fingers, and it's likely not from someone from this forum) has already edited the "National Feed" section of Weatherscan's Wikipedia article
A new Weatherscan feed is expected to be launched in 2010 for Dish Network subscribers, to replace The Weather Cast service that had been founded as a replacement for The Weather Channel as a result of a carriage dispute.
Not that I would trust Wikipedia anyway...
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A new Weatherscan feed is expected to be launched in 2010 for Dish Network subscribers, to replace The Weather Cast service that had been founded as a replacement for The Weather Channel as a result of a carriage dispute.
That makes no sense. Why not just add WeatherScan to the lineup? :dunno:
I just looked at the guide and it now lists the old Weather Cast channel as TWC2. Maybe they're going to do our idea of a second channel for people that are only interested in weather. :dance:
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A new Weatherscan feed is expected to be launched in 2010 for Dish Network subscribers, to replace The Weather Cast service that had been founded as a replacement for The Weather Channel as a result of a carriage dispute.
That makes no sense. Why not just add WeatherScan to the lineup? :dunno:
I just looked at the guide and it now lists the old Weather Cast channel as TWC2. Maybe they're going to do our idea of a second channel for people that are only interested in weather. :dance:
They are just adding weatherscan units everywhere
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How? I thought Dish didn't have headends.
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A new Weatherscan feed is expected to be launched in 2010 for Dish Network subscribers, to replace The Weather Cast service that had been founded as a replacement for The Weather Channel as a result of a carriage dispute.
That makes no sense. Why not just add WeatherScan to the lineup? :dunno:
I just looked at the guide and it now lists the old Weather Cast channel as TWC2. Maybe they're going to do our idea of a second channel for people that are only interested in weather. :dance:
They are just adding weatherscan units everywhere
Martin, they'd have to go in space and take care of that on their satellites. :P And then it wouldn't be local.
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How? I thought Dish didn't have headends.
Weather Cast was going to use specialized broadcast methods to provide regional data. TWC will likely use the same or even (if Dish wants to foot the bill) do like they do with local channels.
Martin, they'd have to go in space and take care of that on their satellites. :P And then it wouldn't be local.
You do know DISH has locals right? I am not saying a WeatherScan for every city but strategically placed and layed out it wouldn't be hard to do regional systems.
Its a win win for everyone.
TWC brings more attention to WeatherScan (something they were planning on anyway)
DISH gets local 24/7 weather
Its CHEAP and requires no outside company and personnel.
TWC can keep doing its programming as is.
WeatherScan could probably even be used for the dual feed (can it already?)
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WeatherScan could probably even be used for the dual feed (can it already?)
I could swear that the Weatherscan channel takes the TWC main feed if something goes wonky with the box.
I can see doing a handful of systems - NE, Mid-Atlantic, South, Great Lakes, Plains, Southwest, Mountains, Northwest, "LA" area.
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How? I thought Dish didn't have headends.
Weather Cast was going to use specialized broadcast methods to provide regional data. TWC will likely use the same or even (if Dish wants to foot the bill) do like they do with local channels.
Martin, they'd have to go in space and take care of that on their satellites. :P And then it wouldn't be local.
You do know DISH has locals right? I am not saying a WeatherScan for every city but strategically placed and layed out it wouldn't be hard to do regional systems.
Its a win win for everyone.
TWC brings more attention to WeatherScan (something they were planning on anyway)
DISH gets local 24/7 weather
Its CHEAP and requires no outside company and personnel.
TWC can keep doing its programming as is.
WeatherScan could probably even be used for the dual feed (can it already?)
Even DIsh is capable of having this technology, would it mean that cable intellistars on DISH are possible in the near future as well?
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Even DIsh is capable of having this technology, would it mean that cable intellistars on DISH are possible in the near future as well?
That I highly doubt.
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They could try to launch a satellite for each city like what they did with the local brodcast stations.
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They could try to launch a satellite for each city like what they did with the local brodcast stations.
Yeah, that won't eat into the profits at all. :bleh:
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They could try to launch a satellite for each city like what they did with the local brodcast stations.
Thats not how it works
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They could try to launch a satellite for each city like what they did with the local brodcast stations.
Thats not how it works
Just imagine if that's how it actually was... satellites would be so crowded they'd be crashing into each other about every tenth of a second. :)
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They could try to launch a satellite for each city like what they did with the local brodcast stations.
Thats not how it works
Just imagine if that's how it actually was... satellites would be so crowded they'd be crashing into each other about every tenth of a second. :)
Haha true. Its already crowded up there
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Honestly, weatherscan seems boring to me. I'm all for a separate channel for only weather, but having OCMs walk the viewer through along with local forecasts every few minutes is just fine.
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Honestly, weatherscan seems boring to me. I'm all for a separate channel for only weather, but having OCMs walk the viewer through along with local forecasts every few minutes is just fine.
Some might argue the latter is boring too. Well you can't always have your cake and eat it too. WeatherScan is the cheapest and easiest solution to everyones problems in this scenario
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Honestly, weatherscan seems boring to me. I'm all for a separate channel for only weather, but having OCMs walk the viewer through along with local forecasts every few minutes is just fine.
I don't know about you but I love weatherscan and so do a lot of other people i know. I can read the forecasts myself. :)
Honestly, weatherscan seems boring to me. I'm all for a separate channel for only weather, but having OCMs walk the viewer through along with local forecasts every few minutes is just fine.
Well you can't always have your cake and eat it too.
Why would you get cake if you can't eat it? I never understood where that joke came from...
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Would this mean IntelliSTAR on Dish Network channel 213????
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Would this mean IntelliSTAR on Dish Network channel 213????
Not necessarily.
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Oh.....what would it actually be like then?
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I remember some of us TWCC members joking about a TWC2 and it's happening. :lol:
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Oh.....what would it actually be like then?
They are going to use spot beaming for WeatherScan units to different areas I imagine
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Haha true. Its already crowded up there
When was it... just last year?... when an American and a Russian satellite actually did collide? And we keep adding even more space junk up there!
Perhaps this is the legacy of shortsightedness. Way, way, way back in the day, no one imagined that satellite overcrowding could be possible, so no means whatsoever was designed to do something about expired satellites other than to just keep them orbiting until they either fell back to Earth in an uncontrolled reentry or (if they were positioned properly) moved out of Earth's orbit altogether (a rare event).
Sputnik fell back to Earth, but one of America's earliest artificial satellites is still circling the Earth after 40-some years, taking up valuable real estate.
In my opinion, it is downright irresponsible for satellites to be launched these days without a means of propulsion to send them farther away from Earth or send them in a controlled burn into the atmosphere when their missions are over. To just let them keep orbiting and orbiting ad nauseum as lifeless metal hunks is just going to be an invitation to disaster, especially since we keep launching more and more, not to mention the collision danger they pose to manned spacecraft.
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Honestly, weatherscan seems boring to me. I'm all for a separate channel for only weather, but having OCMs walk the viewer through along with local forecasts every few minutes is just fine.
Some might argue the latter is boring too. Well you can't always have your cake and eat it too. WeatherScan is the cheapest and easiest solution to everyones problems in this scenario
I completely agree.
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Anyone know where 213 went?????
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I was wondering that too. It'll probably pop back on when TWC and Dish get their program up and running. Hopefully before Heavy Hurricane season I can just see an cat 5 hitting the coast this summer and nobody can see it because of flick and a forecast. Meteorologists getting blown down the street by a huge wind gust live is far more entertaining than a 10 year old movie.
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I was wondering that too. It'll probably pop back on when TWC and Dish get their program up and running. Hopefully before Heavy Hurricane season I can just see an cat 5 hitting the coast this summer and nobody can see it because of flick and a forecast. Meteorologists getting blown down the street by a huge wind gust live is far more entertaining than a 10 year old movie.
TWC would surely cover large weather events over other programming
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I know this is a little late, but who made the agreement to continue carriage of TWC on Dish? Was it TWC or DISH?
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I know this is a little late, but who made the agreement to continue carriage of TWC on Dish? Was it TWC or DISH?
Every agreement has to be a two-way street, meaning both Dish Network and The Weather Channel would have had to agree.
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Mike, I just noticed your signature graphic. I'd been watching The Weather Channel for four years when you were born. Now I'm feeling old. :cry:
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Anyone heard of when this new station is supposed to be launched?
Looks like the dispute has been resolved.
DISH Network and The Weather Channel Reach Agreement
Includes development of new full-time weather forecasting services
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. and ATLANTA, May 24, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX News Network/ -- DISH Network L.L.C. and The Weather Channel today announced that they have reached a multi-year agreement for continued distribution of The Weather Channel on DISH Network's programming platform.
The deal provides for collaboration between both companies in developing state-of-the-art, full-time weather forecasting services designed specifically for satellite customers, including localized weather programming on DISH Network Ch. 213 (in addition to The Weather Channel's main feed on Ch. 214), interactive TV applications, as well as new Internet and mobile services.
Deployment of the new services will begin this summer.
"Through this new partnership with The Weather Channel, DISH Network is giving our subscribers exactly what they've asked for and more. Not only are we developing a unique satellite service that provides localized weather 24/7, but also we'll soon deliver personalized weather reports via the Android mobile platform and the web," said Dave Shull, senior vice president of Programming for DISH Network. "This agreement recognizes the importance of cross-platform video delivery, ensuring that our subscribers will have the most detailed local weather information available at their fingertips anytime, anywhere."
"DISH Network and their customers are extremely important to us, and maintaining and expanding our partnership is a high priority for our company," said Mike Kelly, CEO and President of The Weather Channel. "DISH Network will now be carrying two of our channels - The Weather Channel and a customized 24-hour, all-local weather information network - to provide even better service to their customers. We also look forward to working with DISH Network on other cross-platform and interactive initiatives, taking advantage of our leadership position in mobile and the Internet."
Additional terms of the deal were not disclosed.
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About The Weather Channel Companies
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Yeah I was wondering about the same thing too as I recently switched to Dish. I'm guessing those plans were scrapped.
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Yeah I was wondering about the same thing too as I recently switched to Dish. I'm guessing those plans were scrapped.
Do you get that local weather thing on 213? They said that was going to be installed in summer 2010. (I don't have dish, I'm just going by other users.)
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I had 213 while it was out. It has not come back yet. I hadn't heard one way or another if it is still on track or if it had been scrapped. I was hoping someone here would know. ;)
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there hasnt been 1 word about the dish network 213 weatherscan or whatever it was going to be since they took channel 213 off.
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there hasnt been 1 word about the dish network 213 weatherscan or whatever it was going to be since they took channel 213 off.
i emailed them about this and never got a reply back. so most likely those plans were a goner.
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gah great all that we went through in may for nothing.