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TWC Today => Questions, Comments, Suggestions => Topic started by: twcclassics on September 10, 2011, 09:50:53 PM
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As you all know, TWCC merged with this forum almost two years ago. The reason for the merge was due to a big drop in activity. It was my hope that the merge would result in more discussion. For whatever reason, that hasn't happened. It seem that the only time classic TWC is brought up is when I post something about my site. And even then, I have to make a sarcastic reply to get a response.
That being said, I would like to get your honest opinion. Should the TWCC presence remain or should it be removed? By presence, I'm talking about the TWCC subforums and the "TWC Classics" in the logo. I discussed this with Martin a few weeks ago and we agreed to give it some time. Having done that, I've seen no change. So I thought I'd ask the community.
Regardless of what you have to say, I am not bitter or angry. I have no problem with this forum or any of its members. If no one really wants to talk about classic TWC, so be it. I am grateful to Martin and the original members for welcoming me and my members here. :)
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Matt, I don't want to hurt your feelings, but to me it seems like no one has that much of an interest in talking about the classic TWC. I personally have no first-hand experience of the classic TWC like some of our older members, and although I sure wish I did, I as well as other members would rather focus on the current TWC, despite its crappy state.
With this being said, I do not think having a forum for the classic TWC was ever a bad idea. However, I can understand your frustration; if I had an interest that no one else shared, I would be frustrated to. Surely there are some people who would like to follow the classic TWC. Those people, however, are just not at these forums. And I wouldn't know how to attract them.
Now I am sorry this opinion is coming from a "younger" member. My opinion would probably be of much more value if I had actually watched TWC in the 80s and 90s and still believed I would rather focus on the current TWC, but sadly I wasn't born yet or was too young to watch the classic days.
To conlude this long post, do you mean you would COMPLETELY remove the "classics" subforums, or split away from TWCT again and revive the TWCC forums? I would certainly hate for you to have to take what you have loved doing and get rid of it just because no one else is interested. :cry:
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Well I think the content should stay for nostalgic reasons. A few minutes ago, I was looking on twcclassics.com, and I was looking at the old playlists. From time to time, I like to look at playlists that were before my time. It was amazing how long they were in the 80s and especially the 90s. Like somebody said on the forum a while back, it's funny how we complain about how long playlists are now. Some of those playlists lasted up to 10 months! :o
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Please, please, please[/b] don't get rid of the Classic TWC section, page, or anything related! I started watching TWC in the late 1980s when I was still in elementary school, and the channel had a big impact on me. It made me want to become a meteorologist (never happened due to bad math skills), get involved in television broadcasting (which I did for 7 years), and, of course, TWC was just so different back then, and, I dare say, so much better than it is today.
I go through the site so often I practically have it memorized by now, but I always enjoy wandering down memory lane, especially since none of my videotapes from that era have survived. (My mother had this habit of determining for herself what I "needed," any anything not on her list got thrown out or otherwise destroyed or removed from my possession.)
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Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I was referring to the TWCC presence is this forum only. I have no intention of removing the site itself. Andy summed up my feelings perfectly. It just seems that few people in this forum are interested in the days when TWC actually covered the weather. So it seems silly to keep the subforums and the site name in logo.
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I still vote that it should stay, but I think I'm the only person here (or one of a very small few) who was watching TWC all the way back then. I've tried discussing those days before, but so few people have first-hand memories like I have that the conversations didn't really go anywhere.
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Well I think the content should stay for nostalgic reasons. A few minutes ago, I was looking on twcclassics.com, and I was looking at the old playlists. From time to time, I like to look at playlists that were before my time. It was amazing how long they were in the 80s and especially the 90s. Like somebody said on the forum a while back, it's funny how we complain about how long playlists are now. Some of those playlists lasted up to 10 months! :o
I agree, the TWC Classics subforums should remain for nostalgic purposes, as well as the other reasons mentioned by TampaMillTWC88. Please don't remove them. :no:
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I would have to say that the "Local Forecast" thread is pretty popular, especially judging from the comments above about the desire to find playlists. "OCMs" ranks second in terms of activity for the classics sub-forums. However, "Programming" and "Everything Else Classic TWC" aren't receiving much activity. Maybe we could just get rid of those, if need be? :dunno:
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I would have to say that the "Local Forecast" thread is pretty popular, especially judging from the comments above about the desire to find playlists. "OCMs" ranks second in terms of activity for the classics sub-forums. However, "Programming" and "Everything Else Classic TWC" aren't receiving much activity. Maybe we could just get rid of those, if need be? :dunno:
I hope they'll at least be replaced by one "general" category for the purposes of discussing what TWC was back then. Otherwise, it would be too restrictive to limit discussion only to playlists, local forecasts, and OCMs.
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Apparently, I'm still not explaining myself well. :lol: I'm only talking about the TWC Classics presence. So the only subforums that would be removed are:
TWC Classics News
Contributions
Comments, Questions, or Complaints.
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Apparently, I'm still not explaining myself well. :lol: I'm only talking about the TWC Classics presence. So the only subforums that would be removed are:
TWC Classics News
Contributions
Comments, Questions, or Complaints.
Sorry. :doh: I thought you meant ALL discussion on classic TWC would be removed from these forums...my mistake. But now this makes it confusing. "Classics" is going to be removed from the name but we will still have discussion sub-forums that say TWC 1982-1999?
Sorry, I know this shouldn't be that hard to figure out; guess I'm not thinking tonight.
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I think those sections can stay, Matt. I can understand your frustration, but it's difficult to generate new interest and topics in those sections as the classic days are becoming distant memories to most people. I still remember them well, and I greatly appreciate all your work. You've helped me identify all those songs that danced in my head for decades! Unfortunately, interest in TWC itself is fading, so everything whether modern or classic is not going to bring near the activity like it did years ago.
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So you recognize that interest is fading, but you want my subforums and the name in the logo to stay? That doesn't make sense.
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So you recognize that interest is fading, but you want my subforums and the name in the logo to stay? That doesn't make sense.
Interest is fading in all aspects of TWC, so both of our forums have experienced decline in activity compared to several years ago. Thus, I don't see how you removing those classic parts would help anything. There are classic members who moved here during our merge that would still like to see those parts on this forum.
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I feel the direct partnership between TWC Today and TWC Classics has been mutually beneficial however I do understand your concerns Matt. It saddens me that there hasn't been more of a response. My personal opinion is that there isn't really any harm maintaining the relationship but I respect your wishes and concerns. I appreciate you allowing others to comment on the issue.
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I see no problem keeping the forum. Like previously mentioned, interest in TWC in general has declined, at least in my opinion. But you should do what you feel is best.
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I just wanted to say that I do not think that those sections should be removed because I do not see a big enough reason to. Although I'm definitely not as active as I used to be, I don't hate TWC's changes at all, and I think that the classic content should be kept intact, since those were "the glory days" to many of TWC's fans, including myself. If you're going to leave the classics site up, you might as well leave the name in this site because that was a pretty big event in itself. I'm a firm believer of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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Just so we're all on the same page, most of you are against removing the parts highlighted in the attached screen shot. Right?
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To answer your above question, Matt, I personally don't see why the name "twc classics" in the logo and the "TWC Classics" subforum (regarding information on the TWCC site) should be removed if we will still have content on the classic TWC (that is, keeping "The Weather Channel: 1982-1999" subforums. IMO, if we keep one, we keep them both. If we get rid of one, we get rid of them both.
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I've had a couple of PMs on the subject so I will basically repeat what Matt has said. The merge of the TWCC/TWCT forums was to promote activity and provide a central location where we all could discuss issues and topics of interest. Unfortunately there hasn't been much interest or enthusiasm for the classic material. Matt is proposing that because of this TWC Classics should remove its presence from the forum and this partnership. The database of members that were transferred over after the merge would obviously stay and anyone is welcome to post. Classic boards would also remain since TWC Today has promoted the discussion of current and classic content since before the merge. Really the only items removed will be the forums highlighted in Matts previous post and the name. The TWC Today/TWC Classics forum would become the TWC Today Forums once again. Matt has mentioned possibly creating a blog or some other method for getting news and updates about his site up.
As I mentioned earlier I feel that we should remain together. The TWC Today/Classics name promotes the coming together of two important forums. Going back to TWC Today seems to devalue the enormous contribution that the TWC Classics Forum has brought through the years. After all it was the community that started all of this! Please continue to post your comments and let us know what you think!!
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I respect Matt's wishes and agree with his proposal
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Unless the "classic" part of the forum is actually taking up space and it's becoming a hindrance, or it's costing someone extra money to keep it here, or people are complaining that it just doesn't "fit," I can't see any reason to get rid of it. What's wrong with information for the sake of information? Leave it available in case someone would like to post in there, or even just read what's already there, as I do from time to time.
Why take choices away from people just because these choices aren't the most popular in a forum? Who would be hurt by leaving them the way they are? Would the benefit really be that great by getting rid of them?
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Thanks to everyone who commented! I guess we'll leave things as they are. I honestly didn't expect anyone to care, so this is good. :)
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Thanks to everyone who commented! I guess we'll leave things as they are. I honestly didn't expect anyone to care, so this is good. :)
I'm glad everything will stay as it is. :biggrin:
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Thanks to everyone who commented! I guess we'll leave things as they are. I honestly didn't expect anyone to care, so this is good. :)
I'm glad everything will stay as it is. :biggrin:
Me, too. :biggrin:
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I also like it as it is now.
If it wasn't for TWC Classics, I wouldn't be able to find the good music, and to remember some of the neat people who worked there - I only vaguely remember the mid-80s watching at my grandmother's house, but got cable myself in January, 1989, so it does take me back.
I wouldn't change it - discussion might be in recession mode now anyway.
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I may not have even been alive during said period of Classic TWC, but I still enjoy having the discussion here. I've determined I don't care about present-day TWC and only want classics from the beginning of TWC to 2004. It also adds some variety having TWCC here.