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Title: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: phw115wvwx on October 31, 2012, 11:42:29 PM
We all realize that TWC has increasingly become difficult to discuss due to all the changes that have occurred, which most people view quite negatively.  It has created a ton of complaining, but some of it has become too rampant to where it has actually driven away some members as I've learned in the past months.  It's time that we take a step back and start focusing on new ideas that have some relation to TWC but can be expanded a little so that there's more productive activity in this forum.

Thus, I'm opening this thread for any possible topic ideas, thoughts, or suggestions that we could try to change our focus on how we apply TWC to this forum that would spur interest and positive thoughts again.  Maybe a group brainstorm will help all of us find things or perspectives that we've probably missed.  I've got a few ideas in mind, but I want everyone to have a say before we try anything.  Thanks! B)
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: TWCJim on November 01, 2012, 01:06:10 AM
Maybe add some more LF videos to this site's video index?  :dunno:  Just an idea...
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 01, 2012, 01:26:39 AM
Maybe add some more LF videos to this site's video index?  :dunno:  Just an idea...
I'll let Martin and Jesse have a thought on that idea as they maintain the website.  I'm trying to find topics and ideas we could try implementing here in the forum, too.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: Zach on November 01, 2012, 05:06:45 AM
I'm with Jim, I'd like to see more content on the site as well, and I can surely donate a lot of satellite/DirecTV/HD LF's from 2010 through today to the site along with a few IntelliStar clips here and there :yes:

As for the forums, how about a tiny shift in focus to where we can have a little more focus on weather and not just TWC?
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: twcclassics on November 01, 2012, 10:42:43 AM
As for the forums, how about a tiny shift in focus to where we can have a little more focus on weather and not just TWC?
I had a similar idea for my site. My idea is to scale back the TWC content (ie. only keeping the most memorable clips) and add more weather content. Thus appealing more to those who are big weather fans, but aren't nostalgic about TWC enough to visit often (or at all).

I'm all for ending the complaining if it's turning people off, but I'm not sure what else we can talk about. Weather in general is a good idea. Talking about things that were good about TWC is another idea, but I doubt those will garner much interest.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: TWCJim on November 01, 2012, 11:49:15 AM
Maybe add some more LF videos to this site's video index?  :dunno:  Just an idea...
I'll let Martin and Jesse have a thought on that idea as they maintain the website.  I'm trying to find topics and ideas we could try implementing here in the forum, too.

Oh, I thought you meant ideas for both the entire sites, not just their forums.

I would like to donate old clips if it's possible somewhat. I guess we'll have to wait and see what both Jesse and Martin think about this idea first.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 01, 2012, 10:42:59 PM
As for the forums, how about a tiny shift in focus to where we can have a little more focus on weather and not just TWC?
I had a similar idea for my site. My idea is to scale back the TWC content (ie. only keeping the most memorable clips) and add more weather content. Thus appealing more to those who are big weather fans, but aren't nostalgic about TWC enough to visit often (or at all).

I'm all for ending the complaining if it's turning people off, but I'm not sure what else we can talk about. Weather in general is a good idea. Talking about things that were good about TWC is another idea, but I doubt those will garner much interest.
Zach and Matt, I'm certainly in agreement with favoring a little more about weather and the better things about TWC that people feel most interested in discussing. :yes:  I get the feeling we need more thoughts on how to implement it, so I'm hoping for more opinions this weekend.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: lfmusiclover on November 04, 2012, 12:48:02 AM
I'd like to add to this conversation, if I could. As luck would have it, I was watching TWC briefly the other day, and I could only shake my head in disgust at what I was seeing. I had a feeling there were alot of people on here who are not fans of TWC as it now is. But the truth is, none of us should be very surprised. I think we all knew things would never be the same when NBC bought TWC awhile back. Who amongst us didn't know TWC was going to go in this direction? I mean, really? They want to popularize the channel, and let's face it, the TWC we all knew and loved over the years wasn't exactly a ratings giant. Remember, we are in the minority of TWC's viewers. Let's not ruin the forum by complaining about things we have no control over. It's not worth driving people away over.

I'm very much in favor of shifting the focus a little onto weather instead of TWC. If it was still my site, that would be the direction I'd be taking it.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: Localonthe8s on November 05, 2012, 12:25:08 AM
I do too. A little bit of weather or maybe a little bit about The Weather Network in canada (if enough people like that network).
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: jtmal0723 on November 05, 2012, 03:40:26 PM
As soon as Martin is back home and I'm not busy caring for my ailing mother (she was diagnosed with congestive heart failure a few weeks ago), I'll work with Martin to come up with a game plan to see if the shift to weather can occur smoothly, if this, indeed, turns out to be the best option. We all here value each and every one of your opinions, so keep them coming guys!! :happy:
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 05, 2012, 06:38:32 PM
I have a few weather ideas as well, but I want to see what significant changes Martin would like to try first before I start incorporating them into the framework.  I also feel we should give more focus to particular aspects of TWC that we enjoy like the music and graphics.  Just because they may be disappointing now doesn't mean we have to abandon what we liked in the past and what may come in the future that could pleasantly surprise us.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: toxictwister00 on November 05, 2012, 06:56:23 PM
I don't really have any ideas, but I like some of the ones already floating around in here. :yes:
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: twcclassics on November 05, 2012, 09:55:17 PM
What's all this talk about implementing ideas and framework? Aren't we just changing topics? What all is involved in doing that besides just...doing it? :dunno:
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 06, 2012, 06:08:52 AM
What's all this talk about implementing ideas and framework? Aren't we just changing topics? What all is involved in doing that besides just...doing it? :dunno:
I'm thinking there will be some new boards or threads possibly added, but I don't know all the details yet either.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: stormymikala on November 08, 2012, 05:39:35 PM
Maybe add some more LF videos to this site's video index?  :dunno:  Just an idea...
I'll let Martin and Jesse have a thought on that idea as they maintain the website.  I'm trying to find topics and ideas we could try implementing here in the forum, too.

Oh, I thought you meant ideas for both the entire sites, not just their forums.


I would like to donate old clips if it's possible somewhat. I guess we'll have to wait and see what both Jesse and Martin think about this idea first.

If you can donate clips, I enjoying seeing video clips.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: TWCToday on November 09, 2012, 12:00:46 AM
The current problem with the website is that its becoming increasingly difficult to maintain with the current architecture is place. I would like to see a revamp at some point but I can't dedicate any time towards that. It would be up to Jesse to work on something or if there is enough support we could pay for a design. A shift to a more weather oriented community has always been a goal of mine. I bought Eastern in hopes of one day bringing it back. I've had no time to invest in that currently.

All of these changes involve time and participation. I'd like to see if I could get some feedback on who might be willing to help out with the administration and management side of TWCT. As some of you know I am actively pursuing a career in meteorology. Unfortunately having my positon at a site like this is a reliability and could threaten potential career opportunities. Soon I will need to step down from my position. I'm looking forward to implementing as much feedback as possible. Thanks everyone for sharing your ideas!
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: twcfan68 on November 09, 2012, 12:36:59 AM
That's really cool, Martin. I'm proud that you're pursuing your interests, and believe me, from the way it sounds, you are more than intellectually capable to succeed in the work that will be placed in front of you to get a degree in meteorology.

In the talks of a shift to a more weather-oriented site, are we thinking more of a general weather forum with some ties to The Weather Channel? I know right now we're largely TWC oriented, but with the direction that seems to be going lately, I don't oppose a shift. Most posts I read are mainly just chat and talk about the weather. Most things said about TWC are mostly negative anyway. :P 
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: TWCToday on November 12, 2012, 02:17:34 AM
That's really cool, Martin. I'm proud that you're pursuing your interests, and believe me, from the way it sounds, you are more than intellectually capable to succeed in the work that will be placed in front of you to get a degree in meteorology.

In the talks of a shift to a more weather-oriented site, are we thinking more of a general weather forum with some ties to The Weather Channel? I know right now we're largely TWC oriented, but with the direction that seems to be going lately, I don't oppose a shift. Most posts I read are mainly just chat and talk about the weather. Most things said about TWC are mostly negative anyway. :P 
Thanks for the kind comments. Everyone here has been like family and I hate to see negative talk get between us. Not too much negativity regarding the weather! Haha :)

The name of the forum is TWC Today and I think its important to stick to the roots of why we exist. That being said its gotten to the point where the passion for The Weather Channel can't fully support a upbeat and active community. I think a 60/40 or 50/50 focus would be good. I feel we are around 80/20 at this point for perspective.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: twcclassics on November 12, 2012, 10:21:13 AM
The name of the forum is TWC Today and I think its important to stick to the roots of why we exist.
Ahem! What's the name of the forum? :club:











 :P
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 22, 2012, 02:43:40 AM
Another item I'm going to address here for improvement in our forum is something more personal:  I've been rather concerned about how some of you have viewed me lately.  It seems like when I ask requests or demands from a moderator point of view or when I try to interact with others that it feels like there's a disconnect as if I'm doing something wrong.  I've already slipped a hint in the Game Room about my feelings here, and I'm becoming rather worried about how people view me and the actions I do.

So, in addition to making our forum better with some suggestions above, I personally want to know how I can be a better moderator and friend to you all.  If you all have some ideas, please feel free to either share them or PM them to me.  These can also be suggestions for our entire moderation and administration team, too.  It's been a rough year here based on all the complaints over the months, and I'm trying to make things better for everyone.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: Trevor on November 22, 2012, 09:22:31 AM
Patrick, I view you as a great friend and you are doing a great moderation job, imo.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: TWCJim on November 22, 2012, 11:59:28 AM
Another item I'm going to address here for improvement in our forum is something more personal:  I've been rather concerned about how some of you have viewed me lately.  It seems like when I ask requests or demands from a moderator point of view or when I try to interact with others that it feels like there's a disconnect as if I'm doing something wrong.  I've already slipped a hint in the Game Room about my feelings here, and I'm becoming rather worried about how people view me and the actions I do.

So, in addition to making our forum better with some suggestions above, I personally want to know how I can be a better moderator and friend to you all.  If you all have some ideas, please feel free to either share them or PM them to me.  These can also be suggestions for our entire moderation and administration team, too.  It's been a rough year here based on all the complaints over the months, and I'm trying to make things better for everyone.

No worries Patrick. Some of us still appreciate all of the hard work you try to do as a mod. Keep up the good work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: phw115wvwx on November 25, 2012, 09:37:41 AM
Thanks, Trevor and Jim.  I still would like more feedback from others as the last few weeks have not been sitting well for me. :hmm:
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: Zach on November 25, 2012, 09:58:04 AM
Patrick, I really think you're doing a great job with us and you always have! :)
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: phw115wvwx on December 02, 2012, 03:15:29 PM
Patrick, I really think you're doing a great job with us and you always have! :)
Thanks, Zach.  I sure hope things are a little better and that we can actually implement some good changes here once some people are done with finals.
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: curtjr4 on December 06, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
I agree that trying to mix the place up with the weather in general and TWC would be beneficial. Like some (I guess), I haven't been poking my head around here that often as I once used to. The reason being, I lost all interest in The Weather Channel. Only two things keep me here, which is talking to fellow weather fanatics, and WeatherSTAR technology. So I really believe that a mix of the two would be excellent. And now time to reply to other people in this thread, so excuse all of this below if you don't want to hear about my experiences here :bleh:

Martin, I'd like to say that I am extremely happy you are following your interests. It's a shame that you will have to step down one day, as you have been an excellent administrator in my eyes. It's not about frequency, it's about quality. You have invested money into this website, and made quite a strong user base. So all I can say is good luck, and thanks for everything you have done. Hopefully you will still to make big changes before you hand off the position to someone else, and continue to be a part of the community. And when you said everyone is like family to you- I can second that. I've made very good friends here, and some that have gone strong for years and continue to. I hate to see things get between everyone like this. We're all friends :)

Patrick, I would also like to say that you have been an excellent administrator, yet alone a friend. It's not too often that you find someone with the devotion like you. You keep this place safe and happy for everyone... and that's all that matters. You've done a fine job :)
Title: Re: New Ideas for TWCT/TWCC
Post by: phw115wvwx on December 07, 2012, 07:27:13 PM
Curt, thanks for your thoughts! B)  I've even tossed around ideas in my mind for fun on the weather side like forecasting contests and trivia games.  There would need to be some strong interest from everyone and other serious topics to offset it on the weather boards to keep things productive.