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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => Programming and Graphics => Topic started by: TampaMillTWC88 on June 22, 2011, 09:25:19 PM
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The Weather Channel is very inconsistent with severe weather coverage ever since they deveoted themselves to becoming a reality and entertainment channel. Last night, they wisely preempted the regularly scheduled programming when severe weather was heading toward Chicago. At 9pm and 9:30pm, they flat out rushed through the update, even though there is severe weather with multiple reports of tornado damage in Kentucky. The only thing they have is some dinky weather alert below the screen while Twist of Fate is going on. TWC should realize every one does not have Intellistar, in order to see the LOT8s squeezeback. They just had to show this program tonight, no matter what. They are showing a program about tornadoes, while tornadoes are going on right now!!! Why can't they stop their programming and show us what is happening in Kentucky!!! :nono: We have to wait until friggin 10pm to get some sort of extended coverage. And it'll only be for 1 hour. :hammer:
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There is a such thing as "dual feed".
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There is a such thing as "dual feed".
Evan has notified me that its not being deployed.. thats lovely <_<
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There is a such thing as "dual feed".
Evan has notified me that its not being deployed.. thats lovely <_<
How does this dual feed work?
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There is a such thing as "dual feed".
Evan has notified me that its not being deployed.. thats lovely <_<
How does this dual feed work?
Sorta like the live weather updates are now, except longer and only the area affected by severe weather would see it while everyone else is watching long form programming. Speaking of dual feed, would this have been a severe wx update on a dual feed? I put in the video description that it was, but I'm not too sure. If so, this is the last time I've seen it.
IntelliStar - April 24, 2010 11:58pm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOaN4YsjWwI#)
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I think TWC did away with dual feeds when they started airing "live weather updates" every 30 minutes.
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I'll say, as a person watching the stations in the market where it hit, Even if they didn't break in, a dual feed update would have worked for the area. Louisville is the biggest city in Kentucky and I know has an IS, the surrounding area that was affected has the Louisville IS, so no problem there. The big problem was that by the time they would get extended live coverage, the storms started to wind down. TWC was too little, too late. I saw TWC ONCE talk about the Louisville storm. Also, the storms simply weren't as bad as the FAAF storms from that night. The storms in Arkansas killed a few people. Here, nobody was even injured. Also, the storms weren't EF-3's or anything, at most maybe weak EF-2. There was a lot of damage though.
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There hasn't been Dual Feeds in awhile, because every time severe weather is in my area they say "stay tuned for a weather update in 30 minutes."
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Why am I not surprised... The 30 minute updates have an up and down to them.
The up? Some areas don't have the IS. However, i'm sure that's not the reasons since if they killed the legacy LDLs (for when they had the big and small LDL, not anymore so excuse:invalid) plus not having a squeezeback (enjoy that national forecast for cities that can be far far away, take Big Bear for example, that's in the mountains!) then obviously that's not the reason.
However, the 30 minute interval keeps the updates sooner than they used to have them when they had (http://skypeemoticons.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Skype-emoticons-73-middlefinger.gif) and a (http://skypeemoticons.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Skype-emoticons-56-rain.gif).
The down? Well, Severe weather can strike in an instant. Since TWC obviously could care less about anything weather these days, then obviously of course they won't utilize the dual feed. That right there, is laziness, just like as I mentioned the LDLs and squeezebacks. the XL can AT LEAST show an LDL during that time, or if they devoted a little time, make a squeezeback, it's capable of doing so, they just have their heads in the clouds working with the new equipment leaving older ones at a disadvantage. I bet the IS will no longer be getting anymore updates, since the IS2 is rolling out. <_<
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The down? Well, Severe weather can strike in an instant. Since TWC obviously could care less about anything weather these days, then obviously of course they won't utilize the dual feed. That right there, is laziness, just like as I mentioned the LDLs and squeezebacks. the XL can AT LEAST show an LDL during that time, or if they devoted a little time, make a squeezeback, it's capable of doing so, they just have their heads in the clouds working with the new equipment leaving older ones at a disadvantage. I bet the IS will no longer be getting anymore updates, since the IS2 is rolling out. <_<
Plus, I see them advertising Peter Lik tonight. So I doubt they'll preempt tonight either.
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The down? Well, Severe weather can strike in an instant. Since TWC obviously could care less about anything weather these days, then obviously of course they won't utilize the dual feed. That right there, is laziness, just like as I mentioned the LDLs and squeezebacks. the XL can AT LEAST show an LDL during that time, or if they devoted a little time, make a squeezeback, it's capable of doing so, they just have their heads in the clouds working with the new equipment leaving older ones at a disadvantage. I bet the IS will no longer be getting anymore updates, since the IS2 is rolling out. <_<
Plus, I see them advertising Peter Lik tonight. So I doubt they'll preempt tonight either.
One time this week I remember them advertising Weather Caught on Camera in the morning for prime time, but then that was preempted. So don't always trust the advertising. Although, the severe weather looks like it's mostly out of the country now anyway, so I guess we can count on Peter Lik tonight.
As far as the XL, I thought TWC was eventually going to phase it out. I could be wrong (since the IS is more expensive, right?), but I have been to a few places that used to have an XL and now have an IS. Thus, this would explain why the XL is not getting updates for the LDL, squeezeback, etc. :yes:
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As far as the XL, I thought TWC was eventually going to phase it out. I could be wrong (since the IS is more expensive, right?), but I have been to a few places that used to have an XL and now have an IS. Thus, this would explain why the XL is not getting updates for the LDL, squeezeback, etc. :yes:
Well, they shouldn't phase it out. The XL is still completely usable, they can simply keep the icons and graphics as is, but the LDL needs to be shown.
And is it too hard to make a squeezeback? All simply does is make 3 pieces show that change for 2 minutes (CC, other weather info, time)
The IS doesn't do any work, TWC does, they make the video compress and do the background. Even if they are too lazy, or there isn't enough hard drive space, then they can AT LEAST cue an LDL. There's a bit of room for that. There's no ad shown to the right left, so excuses:completely invalid. :club:
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The Flick and a Forecast situation happened again this week when TWC went to longform during the Phoenix dust storm, except now we can call it "Lik and a Forecast."
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The Flick and a Forecast situation happened again this week when TWC went to longform during the Phoenix dust storm, except now we can call it "Lik and a Forecast."
TWC doesn't even bother to preempt anymore. It has been like two weeks since I actually saw them interrupt their programming. <_<
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"Lik and a Forecast."
:bleh: and a :storm: you mean. :rofl:
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The Flick and a Forecast situation happened again this week when TWC went to longform during the Phoenix dust storm, except now we can call it "Lik and a Forecast."
TWC doesn't even bother to preempt anymore. It has been like two weeks since I actually saw them interrupt their programming. <_<
The storms haven't been that bad recently until today.
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There have been some awful storms recently, like the one that damaged Denver's airport and the huge squall that went through Chicago and other areas. If I'm not mistaken TWC never preempted longform during those events. But as I mention in another post it's simply their new business model and responding to the larger market demand for reality programming. That being said I wonder if they'll eventually be all longform all the time, even during hurricanes. I can just imagine the 30-second live updates "A major hurricane is pounding the Atlantic coast, now back to Peter Lik."
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That being said I wonder if they'll eventually be all longform all the time, even during hurricanes. I can just imagine the 30-second live updates "A major hurricane is pounding the Atlantic coast, now back to Peter Lik."
That would be unforgivable, and perhaps the one thing that would make me stop watching The Weather Channel for good after almost a quarter century.
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That being said I wonder if they'll eventually be all longform all the time, even during hurricanes. I can just imagine the 30-second live updates "A major hurricane is pounding the Atlantic coast, now back to Peter Lik."
That would be unforgivable, and perhaps the one thing that would make me stop watching The Weather Channel for good after almost a quarter century.
The way TWC is going, that is not out of the realm of possibility. I actually cracked up at that Peter Lik line. But the Weather Channel programming seems to be headed towards mostly longform.
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I'm thinking about Hurricane Hugo in 1989. John Hope was absolutely tireless in his efforts to warn people about what was happening and to make sure that people stayed safe. That one incident, in my opinion, made TWC a trusted source of weather information, and that distinction stayed with the network for almost twenty years. But then NBC came along and decided to turn TWC into another run-of-the-mill reality/entertainment network that just happens to talk about the weather every now and then.
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I remember John Hope reporting on Hugo too, that was right around the time I started watching TWC. I was a young kid but I was still impressed by how good he was and could tell this was his life's mission, to provide people the information they needed to stay safe. I also remember TWC's reporting on the March 1993 Superstorm, again they showed that tireless effort to cover the storm. Dennis Smith was on top of that storm. I think both John Hope (if he were still alive) and Dennis Smith would walk off their jobs at TWC if they saw what the channel is like now.
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I was surprised to see that TWC actually preempted longform on Friday to cover Tropical Storm Don. Ironically, as even the on air meteorologists admitted, Don was a total nonevent that had much less impact than the daily severe thunderstorms that they never preempt longform to cover.
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On Sunday they stayed live all day and today Heather and Todd are on at 11am3pm which should mean the 2nd edition of Day Planner will air 3pm-7pm.
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Today happens to be the two year anniversary of that infamous night, and ironically, they have refused to preempt again tonight with widespread severe weather and tornado warnings. :hammer:
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We'll have to start counting on Weather Nation Now :P
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We'll have to start counting on Weather Nation Now :P
Kudos to that :yes:
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We'll have to start counting on Weather Nation Now :P
Been doing that for a year now :P
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Today happens to be the two year anniversary of that infamous night, and ironically, they have refused to preempt again tonight with widespread severe weather and tornado warnings. :hammer:
I believe they still did bumps at the top of each hour correct?
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Yes the Weather Now updates air at :28 and :58 during the local forecast.
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It's happening again tonight with active severe storms and tornadoes in the mid west.
Taped shows are more important 8pm to 10pm then coverage of severe storms.
Ironic on the two days before the 30th Anniversary they ignore storms and stay on taped programming.
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Yes the Weather Now updates air at :28 and :58 during the local forecast.
Just now (8:48 CT), they did a Live Weather update using the L-Bar. Was this the case last night? I did not see an update at the bottom of the hour (8:30 CT).
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The updates were at 10 and 40 minuets after the hour then they were moved to 28 and 58 after the hour and it appears they have moved again to 18 and 48 minuets after the hour.