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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => Local Forecast => Topic started by: TWCToday on February 26, 2010, 05:42:12 PM
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As TWC has decided to test it it is safe to say there will be a new ldl in the near future.
HQ Video
https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl (https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl)
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Oh cool, I hope it looks good :happy:
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Any pictures? :unsure:
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Oh nice, TWC could use a new LDL. :yes:
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Cool! A new LDL is great...the blue bar is not to my preference.
Alex, is that the new LDL overlapping your old one? :wacko:
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That infact appears to be on-air character generator. Watch this video so you'll understand what I am going to say
TWC Debuts New City Scroll Bar with WeatherStar 4000 Colors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmQaRNYx-hs#)
Now, the Intellistar would have waited until the next LDL cue. It won't change in the middle of the LDL displaying data, auctualy, it wont go behind the old LDL. The old LDL is still on the screen. What this appears to be is a operator error at TWC with a Character Generator system.
If this were to be an new LDL, it would have displayed on the next cue, as I said. Also, as you can see, this new LDL graphic came in much after the old one, but the old one was over the graphic displayed.
People may have their own opinions about it, and I can't change that unless if I just motivated them to not believe my theory. It simply makes sense that it was a Character Generator error over at TWC. :thumbsup:
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That infact appears to be on-air character generator. Watch this video so you'll understand what I am going to say
Now, the Intellistar would have waited until the next LDL cue. It won't change in the middle of the LDL displaying data, auctualy, it wont go behind the old LDL. The old LDL is still on the screen. What this appears to be is a operator error at TWC with a Character Generator system.
If this were to be an new LDL, it would have displayed on the next cue, as I said. Also, as you can see, this new LDL graphic came in much after the old one, but the old one was over the graphic displayed.
People may have their own opinions about it, and I can't change that unless if I just motivated them to not believe my theory. It simply makes sense that it was a Character Generator error over at TWC. :thumbsup:
Nobody said a new ldl was debuting... just that one exists and will likely in the very near future. ;) Its obviously being tested and a goof it was shown on air.
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That infact appears to be on-air character generator. Watch this video so you'll understand what I am going to say
Now, the Intellistar would have waited until the next LDL cue. It won't change in the middle of the LDL displaying data, auctualy, it wont go behind the old LDL. The old LDL is still on the screen. What this appears to be is a operator error at TWC with a Character Generator system.
If this were to be an new LDL, it would have displayed on the next cue, as I said. Also, as you can see, this new LDL graphic came in much after the old one, but the old one was over the graphic displayed.
People may have their own opinions about it, and I can't change that unless if I just motivated them to not believe my theory. It simply makes sense that it was a Character Generator error over at TWC. :thumbsup:
Nobody said a new ldl was debuting... just that one exists and will likely in the very near future. ;) Its obviously being tested and a goof it was shown on air.
It would make sense to be tested on a star, not on the main feed :bleh:
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That infact appears to be on-air character generator. Watch this video so you'll understand what I am going to say
Now, the Intellistar would have waited until the next LDL cue. It won't change in the middle of the LDL displaying data, auctualy, it wont go behind the old LDL. The old LDL is still on the screen. What this appears to be is a operator error at TWC with a Character Generator system.
If this were to be an new LDL, it would have displayed on the next cue, as I said. Also, as you can see, this new LDL graphic came in much after the old one, but the old one was over the graphic displayed.
People may have their own opinions about it, and I can't change that unless if I just motivated them to not believe my theory. It simply makes sense that it was a Character Generator error over at TWC. :thumbsup:
Nobody said a new ldl was debuting... just that one exists and will likely in the very near future. ;) Its obviously being tested and a goof it was shown on air.
It would make sense to be tested on a star, not on the main feed :bleh:
They could be testing the satellite version (which that appears to be). :yes:
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They could be testing the satellite version (which that appears to be). :yes:
Yep thats what I would say as well :)
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They could be testing the satellite version (which that appears to be). :yes:
Yep thats what I would say as well :)
Most likely ;) But it doesnt make much sense to me how it came up behind the STAR, as the Sat. stars arn't hooked upto the mainfeed. So i'm bazzled there :hmm:
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Cool! A new LDL is great...the blue bar is not to my preference.
Alex, is that the new LDL overlapping your old one? :wacko:
I Guess, my Star has been all over the place today so it could be or just something else.
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Cool! A new LDL is great...the blue bar is not to my preference.
Alex, is that the new LDL overlapping your old one? :wacko:
Everyone saw the new ldl. It was the national version that was aired by accident.
I Guess, my Star has been all over the place today so it could be or just something else.
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They could be testing the satellite version (which that appears to be). :yes:
Yep thats what I would say as well :)
Most likely ;) But it doesnt make much sense to me how it came up behind the STAR, as the Sat. stars arn't hooked upto the mainfeed. So i'm bazzled there :hmm:
They are likely testing it in house (on-air), not on a STAR itself.
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Hi quality video
https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl (https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl)
Thanks to Alex
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From the youtube video, it appears TWC is finally acknowledging the big waste of space in the bottom of the screen since they switched to the projector instead of the green screen. Hopefully it also means that the left side of the screen will no longer be taken up on the HD feed, as having the left bar really reduces the impact of HD.
twcfan
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From the youtube video, it appears TWC is finally acknowledging the big waste of space in the bottom of the screen since they switched to the projector instead of the green screen. Hopefully it also means that the left side of the screen will no longer be taken up on the HD feed, as having the left bar really reduces the impact of HD.
twcfan
Yes this does solve that problem with the SD feed and I am glad about that. Dont think there were any pans for the HD feed sadly. They need to make it horizontal
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Yes this does solve that problem with the SD feed and I am glad about that. Dont think there were any pans for the HD feed sadly. They need to make it horizontal
Believe me, as bad as it looks it SD all that extra space looks even worse on HD. Too bad they won't transition the HD feed at the same time (do they ever)?
twcfan
PS Thanks for the video clip.
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Yes this does solve that problem with the SD feed and I am glad about that. Dont think there were any pans for the HD feed sadly. They need to make it horizontal
Believe me, as bad as it looks it SD all that extra space looks even worse on HD. Too bad they won't transition the HD feed at the same time (do they ever)?
Ive been thinking about that. It looks a little awkward now but with the new graphics its going to look really strange!
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Hi quality video
https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl (https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl)
Thanks to Alex
No problem buddy :D
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Wow, that thing is huge :wacko:
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Wow, that thing is huge :wacko:
I tend to agree. Looks a lot like a horizonal L bar :wacko:
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Only problem I have with it really is the 24/7 ads. :hammer:
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Is that what the empty space on the left is for, ads?
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Only problem I have with it really is the 24/7 ads. :hammer:
They might be Cutting down on Ads they show during the breaks that's why they did add that left panel to place the ads there instead? and make room for a new Flavor?
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Only problem I have with it really is the 24/7 ads. :hammer:
They might be Cutting down on Ads they show during the breaks that's why they did add that left panel to place the ads there instead? and make room for a new Flavor?
Highly doubtful.
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By the way, like the old-school orange and blue theme.
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Only problem I have with it really is the 24/7 ads. :hammer:
They might be Cutting down on Ads they show during the breaks that's why they did add that left panel to place the ads there instead? and make room for a new Flavor?
Highly doubtful.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're lengthening the LFs
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Yeah, the abysmal economy isn't letting that happen.
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Only problem I have with it really is the 24/7 ads. :hammer:
They might be Cutting down on Ads they show during the breaks that's why they did add that left panel to place the ads there instead? and make room for a new Flavor?
Highly doubtful.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're lengthening the LFs
I'll save you the disappointment: they aren't
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Not according to what the star team told me and another member 2 weeks ago
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It would be nice to see a longer flavor like the J Flvor, but I gotta agree with Tyler I doubt that will happen.
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It would be nice to see a longer flavor like the J Flvor, but I gotta agree with Tyler I doubt that will happen.
They have plans for a longer flavor but they haven't put it into testing yet
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i don't think i like that LDL, it seems too old-fashion...so to speak. certainly hope that's not how their new show graphics are going to look like...:no:
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Not according to what the star team told me and another member 2 weeks ago
Sorry, but I don't believe that for a second.
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Not according to what the star team told me and another member 2 weeks ago
Sorry, but I don't believe that for a second.
Email Tony yourself and find out.
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It’s been talked about but not put into testing as of yet.
- Tony
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Not according to what the star team told me and another member 2 weeks ago
"talked about" isn't quiet what I would call quality information. Trust Tyler on this one. If there is going to be a new flavor its not going to be now
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Not according to what the star team told me and another member 2 weeks ago
"talked about" isn't quiet what I would call quality information. Trust Tyler on this one. If there is going to be a new flavor its not going to be now
I know. I highly doubt it'll happen soon though
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It’s been talked about but not put into testing as of yet.
- Tony
They "talk" about a lot of things on a daily basis, most of which never come to fruition.
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It’s been talked about but not put into testing as of yet.
- Tony
They "talk" about a lot of things on a daily basis, most of which never come to fruition.
Sounds like a typical thing from them. Considering its taking them years to even get the HD STAR out I wouldn't hold your breath on some things
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Now to wait 3 years for TWC to give the Istar a makeover :hmm:
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Now to wait 3 years for TWC to give the Istar a makeover :hmm:
haha thats probably about right :P
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Is the IntelliStar local on the 8s still gonna have the current blue LDL or will that change too?
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Is the IntelliStar local on the 8s still gonna have the current blue LDL or will that change too?
You'll have to wait and see.
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Due to complications and delays (ahem) the Local Across the 48s #6 will be postponed until next week on March 10.
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I'm still disappointed that they haven't gotten the HD IStar working on a local basis AND disappointed that the flavor of the current Star hasn't been updated in a long time. I'm sure many people are in agreement! lol
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I'm still disappointed that they haven't gotten the HD IStar working on a local basis
Soon my friend, very soon.
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This new LDL is a lot bigger. :blink: I would think it would block some information on the IS, so maybe it will replace the blue bar on live broadcasting? :dunno:
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I'm still disappointed that they haven't gotten the HD IStar working on a local basis
Soon my friend, very soon.
I hope so!!! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Is the IntelliStar local on the 8s still gonna have the current blue LDL or will that change too?
You'll have to wait and see.
Errr...I hate that reponse. :fight: :P
And now we have to wait another week before this stuff debuts. :(
But, as said earlier, this new LDL would not make sense on the HD feed. :no: Wonder how they manage to work with that. :thinking:
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Is the IntelliStar local on the 8s still gonna have the current blue LDL or will that change too?
You'll have to wait and see.
Errr...I hate that reponse. :fight: :P
And now we have to wait another week before this stuff debuts. :(
But, as said earlier, this new LDL would not make sense on the HD feed. :no: Wonder how they manage to work with that. :thinking:
Well by waiting you get another somewhat big bonus when the changes occur ;)
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Are they really going to wait and have no LDL for a whole week, or is the LDL not present only on satellite feeds (DirecTV and Dish Network) but still visible on cable? I know TWC's penchant to do things on Tuesdays, but this seems to be a problem that should be fixed sooner rather than later. Or perhaps the old style LDLs will reappear for the remainder of the week?
BTW, I just saw the old blue LDL (absent all day on DirecTV) pop up only to disappear in a few seconds.
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I'm enjoying this! (taken an hour ago)
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Yeah, still seeing the blue LDL here :)
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Yeah, still seeing the blue LDL here :)
See our logo :P
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We can now officially say "new LDLs will be launched March 10th".
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Guess we can call this a relaunch?
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Woot relaunch!
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If thats what you all want to call it :P
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Hmm, this I gotta see... :thinking:
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Me To Im Excited!!!
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I'm going to record TWC beginning at 12 AM that day to try to catch the update while it's happening.
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I'm going to record TWC beginning at 12 AM that day to try to catch the update while it's happening.
Hey, that's my domain! :bleh:
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I'm going to record TWC beginning at 12 AM that day to try to catch the update while it's happening.
How do you know the update will even happen that early? It may not happen until as early as YWT or maybe even later.
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I already know when it's gonna happen, so I'll likey set my tuner.
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I'm going to record TWC beginning at 12 AM that day to try to catch the update while it's happening.
Try 4 AM et. I doubt its going to change at 12 am.
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I say between 3-4AM as that was around the time updates were made in the past.
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I say between 3-4AM as that was around the time updates were made in the past.
3:18am was when the new DirecTV LF launched.
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I say between 3-4AM as that was around the time updates were made in the past.
3:18am was when the new DirecTV LF launched.
Yea it most cases updates are pushed around then. Probably expect a few LF outages or screen flashes
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I'm interested to see what it'll look like. Good work with the captures :D
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I'm interested to see what it'll look like.
https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl (https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl) ;)
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I'm interested to see what it'll look like.
https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl (https://twctodayforums.com/index.php?page=video/STARS/newldl) ;)
lol, funny. I meant in the whole scheme of things when it's implemented full-scale...but I did enjoy seeing the video again :biggrin:
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Tha old LDL just came back. :huh:
BTW, will the new LDL also appear during the local forecast on DirecTV? Ever since DirecTV launched the local app, they disabled the LDL from displaying during the local forecast
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Any changes wont affect the local forecasts.
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Any changes wont affect the local forecasts.
I think you misread my post. I didn't ask if anything changes will happen to the LF itself, I only asked if the new LDL will popup during the LF on DirecTV now because now it doesnt
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Any changes wont affect the local forecasts.
I think you misread my post. I didn't ask if anything changes will happen to the LF itself, I only asked if the new LDL will popup during the LF on DirecTV now because now it doesnt
By that I meant the ldl will be the same on the lf. I assume nothing will change for the DirectTV situation either
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The LDL and new graphics have been delayed another 24 hours.
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I guess this means we'll have to delay the LAT48s another 24 hours as well. At least the delay is only a day as opposed to a week last time. They should be getting close with the new LDL and graphics now.
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dang i was hoping to see it tomorrow morning.
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The LDL and new graphics have been delayed another 24 hours.
If it happens tomorrow, it would be one of the few times (only time) I remember a new graphics package debuts on a day other than Tuesday.
BTW, DirecTV LDL finally returned today back to normal.
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The LDL and new graphics have been delayed another 24 hours.
BTW, DirecTV LDL finally returned today back to normal.
th directv ldl came back yesterday
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I guess "I'll just have to wait and see...:P" but,
Is the new LDL going to be on the IntelliStar? :dunno: Because from the looks of the video, it's too big! :blink:
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I guess "I'll just have to wait and see...:P" but,
Is the new LDL going to be on the IntelliStar? :dunno: Because from the looks of the video, it's too big! :blink:
Not on the local forecasts but everything else. There is also a regular sized ldl (I suspect) for long form programming.
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I guess "I'll just have to wait and see...:P" but,
Is the new LDL going to be on the IntelliStar? :dunno: Because from the looks of the video, it's too big! :blink:
Not on the local forecasts but everything else. There is also a regular sized ldl (I suspect) for long form programming.
Seems strange. And interesting that TWC wouldn't update the LDL to the one that is currently on the HD Satellite feed. :thinking: I wonder if that one will eventually be changed? :unsure:
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these are wacky changes i mean all they should need is 1 LDL. and i hope the satillite LF changes there background and stuff
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Seems strange. And interesting that TWC wouldn't update the LDL to the one that is currently on the HD Satellite feed. :thinking: I wonder if that one will eventually be changed? :unsure:
I really hope they do sometime. I wonder though if that wont even happen until the HD Star comes out
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I wonder though if that wont even happen until the HD Star comes out
Yeah, when that century comes around... :whistling:
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Alex, why did you take down your video of the new LDL?
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Alex, why did you take down your video of the new LDL?
its something i can't say unless martin allows me to sorry.
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Also, new icons just debuted on HD feed. Also on the SD LF, but not on the LDL yet. I am not sure if it is on IntelliSTAR yet.....but in case you haven't seen them yet, they are WAY better then the old set IMO. :yes:
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they are WAY better then the old set IMO. :yes:
you're kidding, rite?
No changes currently on the Intellistar.
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yes i see new icons on the SD satellite lf. can't get a clip tho :(
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Icon discussion here please
https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/new-graphics/30/?topicseen (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/everything-else-twc/new-graphics/30/?topicseen)
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Gotten the word.... all lights green for tomorrows ldl
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Time?
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Time?
Probably when most updates are pushed. 2-4am
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Maybe with the "project" out of the way, the peeps at TWC will ease the way for the HD Star to make its grand entrance with all of its HD LDL glory (and added extra features)!!
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Maybe with the "project" out of the way, the peeps at TWC will ease the way for the HD Star to make its grand entrance with all of its HD LDL glory (and added extra features)!!
I think thats nearly finished. lets hope its released "soon"
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Maybe before the "end of the world" in Dec 2012? lol
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Maybe before the "end of the world" in Dec 2012? lol
I doubt that. :rofl2:
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I HAD to hope!
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Sponsor logo already being tested. About 30min to go
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LDL launches. Location names are reset like with the blue ldl launch
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I got nothing. Since I use direcTV I should get this change later on... :/
EDIT: Everything came at 4 AM est. ^_^
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SD viewers get 16:9 image.
HD Sidebar upgrade
New lower thirds
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HD feed
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XL ldl has been turned off for now it seems
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SD LDL:
First Outlook with new ldl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ULy1Sukn4#)
HD LDL/Sidebar
New HD LDL/Sidebar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4vN7v205MI#)
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I'm still seeing the old LDL here. It looks really awkward on screen covering up the information behind it...
I'm seeing the new icons during the local forecast. Definitely more vibrant and distinguishable when compared to the old set. I like them!
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I got the new LDL.. pretty sharp, and I like the blue-orange grade too, reminds me of the old-school STAR
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I don't like this new LDL, it's a bit too big for my liking :hmm:, but I like the colors, that's like the only thing I like from this.
It shrunk during WUWA, it looked a bit better, but I don't have cable, so I can't see all the goodness.
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Definitely more vibrant and distinguishable when compared to the old set.
Actually, you're wrong. They are no different than the old set in that there are several icons that can't be set apart (i.e. Showers, Rain...)
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ok, as far as the IS is concerned.. I would like the LDL much more if the time was shown, i find the time very important.
second, the XL does not load the LDL at all. I hope that the star team does something for the XL instead of showing a national list of cities. ofcourse, i would like alot of things to happen with the XL, but i am sure it has seen better days.
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It's not bad, but I don't like how a seven day forecast is shown for all three cities. It's fine for the main city, but the other two should only show today's forecast or something. Also, why not not more Air Quality, travel cities, and airport conditions on the LDL?
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It's not bad, but I don't like how a seven day forecast is shown for all three cities. It's fine for the main city, but the other two should only show today's forecast or something. Also, why not not more Air Quality, travel cities, and airport conditions on the LDL?
yea i was wondering where all the other 'non-weather' stuff went..
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Again I ask, what the hell was the motive?
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I like the LDL overall, but I wish it was shrunken down in height just a tad bit.
Nevermind, it's the same height as the blue LDL, I guess that was a glitch or they did it on purpose because of the Flood Warning crawl that was on screen.
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I like the LDL overall, but I wish it was shrunken down in height just a tad bit.
Nevermind, it's the same height as the blue LDL, I guess that was a glitch or they did it on purpose because of the Flood Warning crawl that was on screen.
I wish the LF had the same update :(
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I have a video of the update occurring:
IntelliStar Update while it is happening (3/11/10 at 2:45 PM CST) Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSNd9Q4GXHU#)
IntelliStar Update while it is happening (3/11/10 at 2:45 PM CST) Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU0iPIJffwc#)
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I hate to admit it, but I do love the new weather icons as well as the LDL. Bravo, TWC! :clap: (Sorry, I wasn't online in quite a long time. I don't know why. :dunno:)
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I wish the LF had the same update :(
I think that would look ugly.
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I wish the LF had the same update :(
I think that would look ugly.
The LF has looked ugly since the 2007 update.
Is there any reason for the tall AND short LDLs?
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HD feed
Not showing up like this on my HD feed on DirecTV. Old heavy rain icon showing for forecast and cloudy icon for current conditions whatever the actual text says. Only change as shown by Martin is the radar with the city name displaying. No extended forecast bar on the bottom.
However, looking at Martin's youtube clip, appears that the same errors with showing cloudy for current conditions and excessive rain in extended were happening there as well. Perhaps they're trying to fix it?
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HD feed
Not showing up like this on my HD feed on DirecTV. Old heavy rain icon showing for forecast and cloudy icon for current conditions whatever the actual text says. Only change as shown by Martin is the radar with the city name displaying.
I basically have the same (without the HD of course). I don't expect a change to the direcTV LF soon.
And I feel super bad to those HD viewers who are cluttered by the new sidebar/L Bar. I think the picture is just too small.
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And I feel super bad to those HD viewers who are cluttered by the new sidebar/L Bar. I think the picture is just too small.
Actually the sidebar has been present for a long time on HD. The main changes I can see from Martin's clip on that is to add a feel like temperature, move down the wind indicator from the side of the temperature to below the feel like temp, replace the 3-day extended with a 6-hr forecast, and add the city name to the radar. Thus the bottom bar for the extended. And having a bottom bar doesn't make much difference, because for a lot of the time, there are title graphics that clutter that part of the screen anyway. It would actually be preferable to have the arrangement Martin shows than seeing the generic rolling cities TWC shows now (right now in the South...)
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What I meant by "new sidebar" is the slight changes they made on there. I already knew it existed back then. The new features are nice (such as the wind speed). What bothers me is the small picture HD viewers are given to. To be honest I don't really see a need of the bottom bar with the 5-day forecast.
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it looks like TWC is trying to take a professional approach graphic-wise...i'm not a fan of the new LDL, i'll definitely miss the old one. the lowerthirds, however are quite nice.
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Seems like a bit much - so there's 3 LDLs now? Tall, short, and the one on the LF that keeps the old blue style?
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i have the new LDL here right now.. only the SD feed has it, not the HD... and its only during on air segments, not the LF.. new graphics for the LF though
New LDL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW0l1qxtA6I#)
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What I meant by "new sidebar" is the slight changes they made on there. I already knew it existed back then. The new features are nice (such as the wind speed). What bothers me is the small picture HD viewers are given to. To be honest I don't really see a need of the bottom bar with the 5-day forecast.
I am pissed about the bottom bar. Makes the screen size even smaller on the hd channel
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HD feed
Not showing up like this on my HD feed on DirecTV. Old heavy rain icon showing for forecast and cloudy icon for current conditions whatever the actual text says. Only change as shown by Martin is the radar with the city name displaying. No extended forecast bar on the bottom.
However, looking at Martin's youtube clip, appears that the same errors with showing cloudy for current conditions and excessive rain in extended were happening there as well. Perhaps they're trying to fix it?
Old icons I think are temporary. This release was intended without the icons last week. I have a feelings things were rushed to get the icons ready and implemented.
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New LF Icons (SD only - Not on HD Feed)
New LF Icons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19NDHnX7XM8#)
they did flip the graphics on the hd feed as well, but they arent as noticable..
HD Feed LDL:
HD Feed LDL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwvYYt7ZBhg#)
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I think they'll update the icons on the HD feed as well. You can count on it. :thumbsup:
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they just updated my SD feed LDL again.. upping video.. this one is much bigger..
New LDL Pt 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HyMSFwI9MY#)
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I am pissed about the bottom bar. Makes the screen size even smaller on the hd channel
But all it's doing is taking up all that dead space at the bottom of the HD screen. If they are not going to use the whole screen, I'd rather they do that than just have a pillar on the left.
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I am pissed about the bottom bar. Makes the screen size even smaller on the hd channel
But all it's doing is taking up all that dead space at the bottom of the HD screen. If they are not going to use the whole screen, I'd rather they do that than just have a pillar on the left.
It will only be there until you get the HD STAR. There will be no left display area, just a LDL similar to the domestic Istar.
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It will only be there until you get the HD STAR. There will be no left display area, just a LDL similar to the domestic Istar.
Which is what I figured - all that HD sidebar/L-bar stuff is to combat the fatal flaw TWC HD had at start - zero local information. It wasn't the best solution, but a decent stopgap.
Now, can anyone tell me the point of having all these LDLs? There's small, large, and ol' Blue on the LF. Combine that with various design elements all being used at once on air, and there's a bit of a jumble right now.
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Blue one remains on the local because new one doesn't match. The new, small LDL will be used during long-form and "some shows," where they want to conserve screen space, and the other LDL, now the primary LDL, will be used at all other times.
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Blue one remains on the local because new one doesn't match. The new, small LDL will be used during long-form and "some shows," where they want to conserve screen space, and the other LDL, now the primary LDL, will be used at all other times.
That makes sense. The previous version matches the design of the LF while the new LDLs will be used during normal airings.
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I miss a clock :P
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I miss a clock :P
Yeah, the only thing I like about the old LDL was the clock. They should have added that to the new LDLs imo.
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Surprised the sponsor logos have not started
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This new LDL effected those with the WS XL, which sucks...So now if you have an XL, you will only see a national LDL during programming.. no local info what-so-ever! :thumbdown:
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I like the new LDL but as said previously it's missing important non-weather info such as the clock and airport delays. I give a +1 for the old school TWC colors though.
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This new LDL effected those with the WS XL, which sucks...So now if you have an XL, you will only see a national LDL during programming.. no local info what-so-ever! :thumbdown:
Yes. Sadly TWC decided to turn off the XLs ldl
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This new LDL effected those with the WS XL, which sucks...So now if you have an XL, you will only see a national LDL during programming.. no local info what-so-ever! :thumbdown:
Yes. Sadly TWC decided to turn off the XLs ldl
I don't see the point of twc removing the black bar. could someone fill me in on why they might have come to this conclusion?
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I don't know why, but I think it has something to do with the fact that the XL is pretty old compared to the IS. I think TWC wanted to focus more on the IS and the prototype HD STAR.
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This new LDL effected those with the WS XL, which sucks...So now if you have an XL, you will only see a national LDL during programming.. no local info what-so-ever! :thumbdown:
Yes. Sadly TWC decided to turn off the XLs ldl
I don't see the point of twc removing the black bar. could someone fill me in on why they might have come to this conclusion?
Same reason the 4000 and JR LDLs were turned off. They dont match with the on air graphics. Also a kick in the rear to those areas that still have it to upgrade to an IS
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I totally get that, But really do XL viewers really have to suffer this way? alot of Mediacom users have an XL.
at least twc should give those areas a local bar or an alternative with the same ldl to accommodate the change.
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I totally get that, But really do XL viewers really have to suffer this way? alot of Mediacom users have an XL.
at least twc should give those areas a local bar or an alternative with the same ldl to accommodate the change.
I agree they SHOULD but the sad fact is the XL just is no longer going to be supported for visual changes like this.
I don't know why, but I think it has something to do with the fact that the XL is pretty old compared to the IS. I think TWC wanted to focus more on the IS and the prototype HD STAR.
Age isn't too much of a factor here. The XL has a lot of potential left in it and the SGI units in general are powerful units. However TWC has moved on the greater and bigger things so they just don't care too much.
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Surprised the sponsor logos have not started
I saw one this morning during WUWA.
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Have the warning scrolls changed?
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Have the warning scrolls changed?
Have the warning scrolls changed?
No, unless TWC pulled a surprise. I am curious to see how watches show up on these new LDLs like they do on the blue ldl
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Blue one remains on the local because new one doesn't match. The new, small LDL will be used during long-form and "some shows," where they want to conserve screen space, and the other LDL, now the primary LDL, will be used at all other times.
Can you fill me in as to why they decided not to insert a clock into the national LDL, as well as getting rid of air quality, airports, travel forecast, and especially traffic data?
I agree they SHOULD but the sad fact is the XL just is no longer going to be supported for visual changes like this.
I understand it doesn't match but it still works... you know what they say, don't fix what ain't broke. ;)
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Blue one remains on the local because new one doesn't match. The new, small LDL will be used during long-form and "some shows," where they want to conserve screen space, and the other LDL, now the primary LDL, will be used at all other times.
Can you fill me in as to why they decided not to insert a clock into the national LDL, as well as getting rid of air quality, airports, travel forecast, and especially traffic data?
I agree they SHOULD but the sad fact is the XL just is no longer going to be supported for visual changes like this.
I understand it doesn't match but it still works... you know what they say, don't fix what ain't broke. ;)
Traffic data has been an issue I think with its quality and reliability. Airport delays were kind of pointless in a lot of areas as the FAA rarely updates the status. My airport always had No Delay.... even if the whole airport was closed! haha
As for the XL LDL you have to think like a business. XL is an old piece of equipment and mixmatched graphics reflect on the quality of TWC not the cable company for not upgrading their unit. Granted I think everyone would agree here that local info is much better than what is offered now. Like I said before, its another kick in the rear by TWC for these places to upgrade
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AAAAGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Ok, we're back to the 70s now! I do like the dark blue but brownish/golden/orange? It's not even like the old 4000 (which would be pretty sweet). No clock??? Rotating city temperatures??? BAH!!! This thing is HUGE! I saw the "conservative" LDL this morning and didn't really mind it (aside from the rotating city stuff and no clock). I'm also talking about the fact that the temp in the right corner changes when the city changes, versus how it was prior - showing the main city's temp. There is soooooooo much wasted space on this thing, it's ridiculous! I know I'm preaching to the choir...but it had to be said!
New banners: 7
New Lower Thirds: 8.8
New LDL: 4
Updated Sun Icon: -3
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Since the rollout of this new LDL, and the retirement of the XL's black LDL, does that mean weather alerts such as watches & severe warnings will no longer appear as well?
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Doubt it. it'll be interesting to see a severe weather scroll on the new ldl
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I like the new LDL but as others said it's too big. And boo for the XL's LDL to be turned off! :thumbsdown:
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Let's all rush our local computers and do a system restore to yesterday to get the blue LDL back! :biggrin:
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Guess this is how alerts will be handled:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/23h3dox.jpg)
As an aside, why would the alert say Audubon Park, but the cities that my Star rotates through are New Orleans and Boutte? (No, I don't know the 'Stars ID)
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Guess this is how alerts will be handled:
([url]http://i39.tinypic.com/23h3dox.jpg[/url])
As an aside, why would the alert say Audubon Park, but the cities that my Star rotates through are New Orleans and Boutte? (No, I don't know the 'Stars ID)
Wow now that is nice!! Thanks for posting !! :)
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Thanks for posting and welcome to the forums!! :)
He's been here since 2008. :P
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Thanks for posting and welcome to the forums!! :)
He's been here since 2008. :P
Oops sorry about that! :)
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I already miss the little lightning bolt and red tornado for those watch/warnings :( Blast you TWC!!
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I already miss the little lightning bolt and red tornado for those watch/warnings :( Blast you TWC!!
Aww. Well its going to take some getting use too. Biggest ldl change since the creation of the black bar imo
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I agree. I hope there will be some serious tweaking in the next couple weeks to make it better...instead of having numbers thrown all around and wasting screen space!
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HD LDL has new icons now
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Here is a mock I made with a permanent radar in the blank space - I would highly recommend this for severe weather incidents, and as a permanent feature depending on the promotional space requirements...
(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/5672/newldl.jpg)
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Here is a mock I made with a permanent radar in the blank space - I would highly recommend this for severe weather incidents, and as a permanent feature depending on the promotional space requirements...
([url]http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/5672/newldl.jpg[/url])
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
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I like it too. Awesome job, Matt. :twothumbs:
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(http://i43.tinypic.com/2qso2hd.jpg)
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Since the rollout of this new LDL, and the retirement of the XL's black LDL, does that mean weather alerts such as watches & severe warnings will no longer appear as well?
Alerts should still scroll on the XL
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I was also surprised to see this, but I like it. ;)It just needs the date and clock.
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I was also surprised to see this, but I like it. ;)It just needs the date and clock.
Something so simple that I miss so much :P
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Ok, a lot of the day has gone by...and the LDL has been growing on me. I enjoy the compact version a lot more than the "full" 1/3 screen version...but I still think they need to do the following:
1. Expand it to utilize more of the screen
2. Add the clock
3. Get rid of the on/off transition that shows just the blue on the bottom of the screen with no info
4. Solidify the temp position - i.e. like before, time/temp for the main location. Don't get me wrong, I like seeing the current temp of surrounding locations, it's just confusing for less avid viewers to have the temperature changing all the time (especially since it's never been that way on TWC)
5. Get rid of the HD feed's national city list on the right side...bottom is more acceptable I suppose...more-so annoying with how much space it wastes for places I don't care about! :P
6. Change the brown/gold/yellow to more of a yellowish gold or perhaps light blue (like on the old LDL). It seems very out of place compared to the rest of the graphics updates
7. Get rid of the goofy cheese wheel sun!
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Can you fill me in as to why they decided not to insert a clock into the national LDL, as well as getting rid of air quality, airports, travel forecast, and especially traffic data?
Not important enough to the average viewer.
Can you fill me in as to why they decided not to insert a clock into the national LDL, as well as getting rid of air quality, airports, travel forecast, and especially traffic data?
None of those were thought of to be "useful" by the average viewer.
Have the warning scrolls changed?
Nope.
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Ok, a lot of the day has gone by...and the LDL has been growing on me. I enjoy the compact version a lot more than the "full" 1/3 screen version...but I still think they need to do the following:
1. Expand it to utilize more of the screen
2. Add the clock
3. Get rid of the on/off transition that shows just the blue on the bottom of the screen with no info
4. Solidify the temp position - i.e. like before, time/temp for the main location. Don't get me wrong, I like seeing the current temp of surrounding locations, it's just confusing for less avid viewers to have the temperature changing all the time (especially since it's never been that way on TWC)
5. Get rid of the HD feed's national city list on the right side...bottom is more acceptable I suppose...more-so annoying with how much space it wastes for places I don't care about! :P
6. Change the brown/gold/yellow to more of a yellowish gold or perhaps light blue (like on the old LDL). It seems very out of place compared to the rest of the graphics updates
7. Get rid of the goofy cheese wheel sun!
:rofl2: dude. you crack me up with that graphic. I agree with you on the LDL. They need to add more stuff such as the clock. Have you seen Matt (tpirfan28)'s mock ldl? I prefer it exactly like that, just to get rid of all that space.
If TWC add some "glow" to the sun, then it wouldnt be a cheeseball.
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That space will eventually be filled up with ads, so dont worry!
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That space will eventually be filled up with ads, so dont worry!
Oh that makes me feel soo much better :chair: :P
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The new icons look's nice. I like the LDL bar too.
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That space will eventually be filled up with ads, so dont worry!
*sniff sniff* sarcasm?
Oh that makes me feel soo much better :chair: :P
Lemme help you with that. :shoot:
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Ok, a lot of the day has gone by...and the LDL has been growing on me. I enjoy the compact version a lot more than the "full" 1/3 screen version...but I still think they need to do the following:
1. Expand it to utilize more of the screen
2. Add the clock
3. Get rid of the on/off transition that shows just the blue on the bottom of the screen with no info
4. Solidify the temp position - i.e. like before, time/temp for the main location. Don't get me wrong, I like seeing the current temp of surrounding locations, it's just confusing for less avid viewers to have the temperature changing all the time (especially since it's never been that way on TWC)
5. Get rid of the HD feed's national city list on the right side...bottom is more acceptable I suppose...more-so annoying with how much space it wastes for places I don't care about! :P
6. Change the brown/gold/yellow to more of a yellowish gold or perhaps light blue (like on the old LDL). It seems very out of place compared to the rest of the graphics updates
7. Get rid of the goofy cheese wheel sun!
lghdude. you crack me up with that graphic. I agree with you on the LDL. They need to add more stuff such as the clock. Have you seen Matt (tpirfan28)'s mock ldl? I prefer it exactly like that, just to get rid of all that space.
If TWC add some "glow" to the sun, then it wouldnt be a cheeseball.
Thanks :D I did like the addition of the radar...makes the graphic come together better...but still huge on the screen. As for the sun, maybe if there was an animated spinning wheel of cheese, people would not only enjoy it more...but TWC could also let Sargento purchase some ad time for each of the suns on the screen...just put a logo on it and watch it spin!
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The musical ldl and graphics for different shows is a bit annoying
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Hmmmm revised LDL for Evening Edition or is that the official tweak? I like this LDL better!
(http://i41.tinypic.com/4zyrme.jpg)
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Hmmmm revised LDL for Evening Edition or is that the official tweak? I like this LDL better!
No (its Weather Center btw ;) )
Small LDL for the following shows: Wake Up With AL, Your Weather Today, Weather Center, Longform programming.
Other shows will have the large LDL. The same corresponds to the HD feed too
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Hmmmm revised LDL for Evening Edition or is that the official tweak? I like this LDL better!
([url]http://i41.tinypic.com/4zyrme.jpg[/url])
That's the small version of the LDL. The big version is currently being used on some shows (FO, DP, PME), while the smaller one is being used on others (WUWA, YWT, WC, long-form).
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It's a smaller version used in the higher rated shows and long-form.
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Hmmmm revised LDL for Evening Edition or is that the official tweak? I like this LDL better!
No (its Weather Center btw ;) )
Small LDL for the following shows: Wake Up With AL, Your Weather Today, Weather Center, Longform programming.
Other shows will have the large LDL. The same corresponds to the HD feed too
I sorry I just assumed it was Evening Edition. In my opinion TWC should just stick with the small updated ldl instead of the large one.
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Hmmmm revised LDL for Evening Edition or is that the official tweak? I like this LDL better!
No (its Weather Center btw ;) )
Small LDL for the following shows: Wake Up With AL, Your Weather Today, Weather Center, Longform programming.
Other shows will have the large LDL. The same corresponds to the HD feed too
I sorry I just assumed it was Evening Edition. In my opinion TWC should just stick with the small updated ldl instead of the large one.
Evening Edition hasn't existed since March 1, 2009. ;)
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speaking of LDLs my dish network LDL does not cue anymore during local on the 8s
is this just permanent or are they upgrading the satellite local forecast too
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Large LDL for late Weather Center
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Phew. So many posts. :yes:
My questions:
1) Why does TWC need two LDLs?
2) Why is the LDL for HD different than from SD?
3) Does the big LDL prevent all those "Friday Headlines", etc. stuff from showing up on shows?
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Phew. So many posts. :yes:
My questions:
1) Why does TWC need two LDLs?
2) Why is the LDL for HD different than from SD?
3) Does the big LDL prevent all those "Friday Headlines", etc. stuff from showing up on shows?
1. Because they can? :P Too big to show for longform shows, etc. Technically there are 3 ldls. Old blue is used for LF because the new ones wouldn't blend well.
2. More room? Different hardware?
3. No. Select shows.... WUWA, YWT, WC 7-10 have small LDLs so they show headlines
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Anyone in the mood for Cheesepuffs?
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5678/cheezeball.jpg)
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Is there a small HD LDL, then? :unsure:
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Is there a small HD LDL, then? :unsure:
Yes there is. It can be seen in all shows except for WUWA, YWT, WC (I assume just the Cantore/Steele one), and long form. :yes:
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So let me get this straight: there are now 5 LDLs.
For SD,
one is small
one is big
one is the old blue used on the IS
For HD,
one is small
one is the big one that shows the 5-day forecast (like that)
(and technically there's six...including the LDL on the HD National Feed)
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So let me get this straight: there are now 5 LDLs.
For SD,
one is small
one is big
one is the old blue used on the IS
For HD,
one is small
one is the big one that shows the 5-day forecast (like that)
(and technically there's six...including the LDL on the HD National Feed)
You have the 5 LDLs part correct. :yes:
1 LDL is for warnings (the ones we've seen since August 2005); one is for LFs (the blue one we're most familiar with); one is on the HD feed (during all shows except for WUWA, YWT, WC (Cantore/Steele only), and long form); the small SD one is only on WUWA, YWT, WC (Cantore/Steele only), and long form. The large SD one is on all other shows.
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Is there a small HD LDL, then? :unsure:
Small HD LDL is just the old sidebar with new icons
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Interesting...
So when the small LDL is used for SD, no LDL is used on HD. :wacko: This is probably easier to understand than I'm making it out to be, but I wish TWC would just stick with one LDL. :hmm:
Thanks for clarification, Zach and Martin! :D
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Anyone in the mood for Cheesepuffs?
([url]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5678/cheezeball.jpg[/url])
CHEEZYPOOFS!!!!!! hahahahalgh
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Probably should have posted this here instead. B)
Every LDL used
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Good call, Martin! Random note: have you seen the vertical blue bar in the projection screen? Guess it's time to go back to chromakey!!
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The large LDL in SD is great for bulletins and warnings, but I personally prefer the smaller LDL in SD for showing general information as it seems just right to me in terms of spacing. :yes: The LDA combined with the 5-day LDL in HD just takes up way too much space. I even wonder if the remaining picture you see fits within SD screens. :hmm: I don't think that HD configuration could stay up for long without some people complaining that it's too cluttered. That's just my fast opinion as I was looking over everyone's snapshots and videos of it along with what I saw on my end, and TWC definitely needs to do something with that vertical blue bar as it was pretty easy for me to spot in HD. ;)
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Warning scrolls are going to suck with the big ldl since in theory it will just overlap it
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Warning scrolls are going to suck with the big ldl since in theory it will just overlap it
I think it would be neater to see the warnings flash up and scroll on the big LDL itself. I'm sure it won't happen, but it's just a thought.
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I think that would be ok...having the radar with warning polygons show up at the same time (in the ad space) would be perfect!
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Anyone in the mood for Cheesepuffs?
([url]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5678/cheezeball.jpg[/url])
mmm count me in, I'm hungry!
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Anyone in the mood for Cheesepuffs?
([url]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5678/cheezeball.jpg[/url])
mmm count me in, I'm hungry!
Me? Not so much. :P
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As you probably know by now, the original Warning crawls are still in use. I saw it for a split second as a teacher was flipping to a basketball game when Shelby County was under a warning.
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Anyone in the mood for Cheesepuffs?
([url]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5678/cheezeball.jpg[/url])
mmm count me in, I'm hungry!
I'm stuffed to the rafters today...maybe tomorrow. ;)
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As you probably know by now, the original Warning crawls are still in use. I saw it for a split second as a teacher was flipping to a basketball game when Shelby County was under a warning.
Yep Evan just caught my are's crawl conflicting with an alert
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3043/hpim82361.jpg)
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Thanks for shrinking down that picture for us, Alex. It was going way off the screen earlier. :P
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So TWC couldn't do something like this? (I just used my radar img, which again is dependent on advertising requirements)
(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9393/ldlscroll.jpg)
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The problem with that is font size, how easily it can be noticed, and how long the text is displayed. The old one still achieves all of these, which is why I believe TWC hasn't updated the warning LDL.
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Good concept...I think using that space for ads is ridiculously STUPID because it's just dead space. They need to go back to doing like they used to do: put the ad boxes in the top right corner again on the banner (just like in the local forecasts). Make it a little bigger so it can be seen while on the projection screen. Keep the radar on the double-stack LDL (as shown) and stop making bad decisions :D
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The problem with that is font size, how easily it can be noticed, and how long the text is displayed. The old one still achieves all of these, which is why I believe TWC hasn't updated the warning LDL.
The only reason its not updated is because its so hard to mess with (literally its a major pain) and it wont match the IS
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Two more LDL questions, if you all don't mind:
1) The icons on my National LDLs do NOT animate. :no: Is this true for everyone, or is it an error? :unsure:
2) Do any of the HD LDLs show local information, or just national information to synchronize with the LDA?
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The giant LDL does not look good at all during WCWC.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/jaxjmb.jpg)
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Two more LDL questions, if you all don't mind:
1) The icons on my National LDLs do NOT animate. :no: Is this true for everyone, or is it an error? :unsure:
2) Do any of the HD LDLs show local information, or just national information to synchronize with the LDA?
Oh yea probably wont animate since there are so many icons next to each other at times. TWC didn't want it too distracting I guess
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Two more LDL questions, if you all don't mind:
1) The icons on my National LDLs do NOT animate. :no: Is this true for everyone, or is it an error? :unsure:
2) Do any of the HD LDLs show local information, or just national information to synchronize with the LDA?
The icons on the national LDLs do not animate as Martin pointed out in his above post, and the HD LDLs just show national information that is synchronized with the LDA.
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The local LDL never cued for long-form at 2 PM ET, so I'm currently seeing the small version of the national LDL.
I find it strange that the national LDL has a different TWC logo. There's no shadow, no mirrored logo, and the weather.com font is not Interstate.
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The local LDL never cued for long-form at 2 PM ET, so I'm currently seeing the small version of the national LDL.
I find it strange that the national LDL has a different TWC logo. There's no shadow, no mirrored logo, and the weather.com font is not Interstate.
Haha I know :P
Did Weekend View have the large or small ldl?
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The local LDL never cued for long-form at 2 PM ET, so I'm currently seeing the small version of the national LDL.
I find it strange that the national LDL has a different TWC logo. There's no shadow, no mirrored logo, and the weather.com font is not Interstate.
Haha I know :P
Did Weekend View have the large or small ldl?
big ldl on my end
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Did Weekend View have the large or small ldl?
Early Weekend View had the large LDL, but late Weekend View had the small LDL.
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The weather.com font is the same that's was on the black LDL with the 96-05 logo! :o
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The weather.com font is the same that's was on the black LDL with the 96-05 logo! :o
To further prove that, here's a comparison:
Snapshot from today:
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2733/snapshot000.jpg)
Snapshot from 2004:
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4609/comparee.png)
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That's strange. :blink: TWC seems to be going back to the past with these new LDLs, especially with the blue/orange theme. :yes:
Does anyone know what the font for the temps/current conditions/etc. is on the LDLs? :dunno:
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To my extent, everything is Helvetica Neue. :yes:
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The fonts dont look that similiar. Seems like the 2005 weather.com fonts had a different Helevetica font version.
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The fonts dont look that similiar. Seems like the 2005 weather.com fonts had a different Helevetica font version.
I agree. I wonder why they choose such a crappy version of the TWC logo. That one is washed out. Wonder if they were just in a hurry
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It looks much better on my TV. Must've been my tuner. :thinking:
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It looks much better on my TV. Must've been my tuner. :thinking:
No its not just that. The logo is a different shade of blue. I noticed it earlier when my ldl didnt cue
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That's strange. :blink: TWC seems to be going back to the past with these new LDLs, especially with the blue/orange theme. :yes:
Does anyone know what the font for the temps/current conditions/etc. is on the LDLs? :dunno:
Ya know, I didn't realize how much it reminds me of the 4000 until I ran the emulator and just, looked in awe at the similarity
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During shows like Cantore Stories, how come the LDL sometimes doesn't cue or cues as satellite?
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Snapshot of the larger National LDL cuing
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6379/snapshot004a.jpg)
:rofl2: at Bill & Sam's faces in that pic.
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Does anybody else hate how that blank background stays before/after the cues before/after breaks?? It REALLY bugs me!
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Some LDL shots from my area's I'star
http://d.imagehost.org/0515/snapshot_18174876.jpg (http://d.imagehost.org/0515/snapshot_18174876.jpg)
http://i.imagehost.org/0743/snapshot_18220840.jpg (http://i.imagehost.org/0743/snapshot_18220840.jpg)
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Does anyone know what the font for the temps/current conditions/etc. is on the LDLs? :dunno:
The font is called DIN (http://new.myfonts.com/search/DIN/fonts/).
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Does anybody else hate how that blank background stays before/after the cues before/after breaks?? It REALLY bugs me!
Yea its annoying! Price you pay for having the sponsor logo area separate
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Liberty Lake, WA
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/645/liber1.jpg)
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Um, call me crazy, but I wonder if this has occurred to TWC...
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There are still many graphics not new ldl safe. Its kind of sad
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I'm surprised the IntelliStar can handle those graphics. I remember hearing how the 2008 LDL was even pushing the STAR's limitations.
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I agree...this whole switching between two LDLs is really goofy...you can make a national map for one and it looks fine, but then the other it looks really stupid and probably covers a bunch of information. Completely uncalled for! Oh well...
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I just noticed the switch of forecast data on the national LDL. At about 3:41 PM ET, the forecast temperature data for Tuesday was missing, but Wednesday was still present. And then at about 3:42, the LDL froze on Sacramento for about a minute. When it finally got moving again, the forecast for Wednesday and Thursday was showing.
I don't know what or where the national LDL is getting it's data from. I had thought it was running on Viz, but now I'm not too sure, because it wasn't showing the customary "-" for missing data.
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it is now showing the time on the directv ldl dont know about dish network yet
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it is now showing the time on the directv ldl dont know about dish network yet
yep, it's also showing on Dish Network too, i guess Dish and Direct are showing the same national LDL and not a special Satellite LDL bar.
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it is now showing the time on the directv ldl dont know about dish network yet
Really? I need to see this when I get home from school in an hour.
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Yeah, I'm noticing a clock on the lower left hand corner of my LDL (bigger one at the moment). But it's so far down there that my TV cuts half of it off. I also notice it cycles through the 4 main time zones, oddly enough.
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YES!! :dance: My wish has come true. :P
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the ldl looks better now!!!
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Yeah, I'm noticing a clock on the lower left hand corner of my LDL (bigger one at the moment). But it's so far down there that my TV cuts half of it off. I also notice it cycles through the 4 main time zones, oddly enough.
Thanks for the screenshots. The clock is on the actual national LDL feed. It's in the "window" area of the local LDL, which was originally meant for placement of the ad. Good to see that TWC is using that blank space somewhat productively.
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Yeah, I'm noticing a clock on the lower left hand corner of my LDL (bigger one at the moment). But it's so far down there that my TV cuts half of it off. I also notice it cycles through the 4 main time zones, oddly enough.
Thanks for the screenshots. The clock is on the actual national LDL feed. It's in the "window" area of the local LDL, which was originally meant for placement of the ad. Good to see that TWC is using that blank space somewhat productively.
Oh wow, I was wondering what that was for. Sure thing with the screenshots. It was brought up earlier that the clock was added on InDirecTV, so I got curious and turned TWC on for the first time in a couple daze. It's not really that great, but I suppose it is a start.
I will admit that I should give them some brownie points for the radar portion of the LDL there. I like how it looks exactly like the old radar maps that used to be on weather.com back in it's good ol' daze. I also see it has the color coding in the separate color squares instead of the gradual change you see on the code on the LF radar. I wonder if the ice/mix and snow also show up on this radar?
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I will admit that I should give them some brownie points for the radar portion of the LDL there. I like how it looks exactly like the old radar maps that used to be on weather.com back in it's good ol' daze. I also see it has the color coding in the separate color squares instead of the gradual change you see on the code on the LF radar. I wonder if the ice/mix and snow also show up on this radar?
It's the same radar basemap as currently on the IS :huh:
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Yeah, I'm noticing a clock on the lower left hand corner of my LDL (bigger one at the moment). But it's so far down there that my TV cuts half of it off. I also notice it cycles through the 4 main time zones, oddly enough.
Thanks for the screenshots. The clock is on the actual national LDL feed. It's in the "window" area of the local LDL, which was originally meant for placement of the ad. Good to see that TWC is using that blank space somewhat productively.
Oh wow, I was wondering what that was for. Sure thing with the screenshots. It was brought up earlier that the clock was added on InDirecTV, so I got curious and turned TWC on for the first time in a couple daze. It's not really that great, but I suppose it is a start.
I will admit that I should give them some brownie points for the radar portion of the LDL there. I like how it looks exactly like the old radar maps that used to be on weather.com back in it's good ol' daze. I also see it has the color coding in the separate color squares instead of the gradual change you see on the code on the LF radar. I wonder if the ice/mix and snow also show up on this radar?
I'm wondering if you know it's spelt "days" not daze
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I'm wondering if you know it's spelt "days" not daze
Yes, I'm well aware. I thought everyone knew it was my style to spell days as "daze" and ight as "ite".
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...it's stuck on Pacific Time for some reason.
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...it's stuck on Pacific Time for some reason.
That makes me even more satisfied! :biggrin:
j/k :bleh:
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You know, I'm glad that the clock is back...but it's like they just threw it on there. "Yeah, we have some space here...let's throw it there." Put the time/temp next to each other again controlled by the IS so it's always on the screen (and not stuck on Pacific Time) and let the thing rotate through other area locations with their information down below and stop wasting space!!!!!!
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I'm glad that they put the time back... I bet someone "convinced" them. :club:
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I'm glad that they put the time back... I bet someone "convinced" them. :club:
lol - we should "convince" them more then to fix the whole LDL; turn the suck meter down. The colors have grown on me...but the whole design still bugs me.
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...it's stuck on Pacific Time for some reason.
Mine is stuck on PT too.
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My motto: if you don't like it, don't watch it. 'Nuff saId.
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...it's stuck on Pacific Time for some reason.
Mine is stuck on PT too.
It's the same for everyone. The clock is on the national feed.
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The new clock might actually be useful if it weren't cut off. <_< I can only see the minutes on my TV.
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The new clock might actually be useful if it weren't cut off. <_< I can only see the minutes on my TV.
My point exactly. My TV cuts off the bottom half of it.
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It's in an overscan friendly spot... what's wrong with your tvs?
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Knowing how my TV crops things, I can see the entire clock. :blink: :wacko:
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I'm pretty sure I bought my TV early on in 2005. It's acting a lot older than it is though. The LDL was always cut off in my camera clips, and a purple/green spot of color runs up the left side of the TV when I have a fan running above it.
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I love the new clock, the 4 time zone rotation does not bother me one bit :)
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I bet the Time zone rotation would have been interesting to see when the time changed. :P
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The clock isn't cropped at all on my TV, but the difference probably not only depends on the TV itself, but how the cable company relies on the signal.
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Not sure why we need all time zones shown. Personally, I think it's an error, so we'll just have to wait and see. But the ad's are definitely coming, just wait.
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Not sure why we need all time zones shown. Personally, I think it's an error, so we'll just have to wait and see. But the ad's are definitely coming, just wait.
Because folks on the West Coast don't want to know East Coast time? :P If TWC just added it to the ldl that would be fine.
I don't get how many people have overscan issues with their HDTVs. Not just here either. I personally can't stand stretching a 4:3 image to 16:9. Bleh!!
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i dont know if anyone else noticed, but the clock is a minute ahead of the real time and star time..
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I personally can't stand stretching a 4:3 image to 16:9. Bleh!!
+1 would agree with again
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I personally can't stand stretching a 4:3 image to 16:9. Bleh!!
+1 would agree with again
Absolutely agree. Stretch looks really messed up.
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Not sure why we need all time zones shown. Personally, I think it's an error, so we'll just have to wait and see. But the ad's are definitely coming, just wait.
Because folks on the West Coast don't want to know East Coast time? :P If TWC just added it to the ldl that would be fine.
I don't get how many people have overscan issues with their HDTVs. Not just here either. I personally can't stand stretching a 4:3 image to 16:9. Bleh!!
ahem.... :club: :P
Well, the stretched out picture doesn't really bother me. It looks GREAT on my living room TV.
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I still think each location's IS should take care of the time, while leaving the clock on the national content for those viewers that don't have any form of a local STAR computer. I guess I can live with Pacific Time if I haaaaaaaaaaaave to! :P lol
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I love the new clock, the 4 time zone rotation does not bother me one bit :)
I agree it's nice to see the time for your area in other place
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my clock has a small tornado week ad right above it now.. its funny b/c the fine print of the ad is unreadable..
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Looks like we have started with the promos on the ldl. All TWC related for now
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my clock has a small tornado week ad right above it now.. its funny b/c the fine print of the ad is unreadable..
Yeah, funny you mention that. I can't read it either. There's plenty more room on the larger LDL for the ad to be bigger, but there is nowhere near enough room for the ad as it is now on the smaller LDL. On the positive side, I see the time rotation issue has been fixed... and it's no longer stuck on PDT.
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my clock has a small tornado week ad right above it now.. its funny b/c the fine print of the ad is unreadable..
Yeah, funny you mention that. I can't read it either. There's plenty more room on the larger LDL for the ad to be bigger, but there is nowhere near enough room for the ad as it is now on the smaller LDL. On the positive side, I see the time rotation issue has been fixed... and it's no longer stuck on PDT.
TWC was just too lazy to make a new graphic I imagine. It goes from large to small as the ldl appears. Be happy its small
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Looks like we have started with the promos on the ldl. All TWC related for now
there was one this morning saying "Troy made" it was on during wuwa
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Looks like we have started with the promos on the ldl. All TWC related for now
there was one this morning saying "Troy made" it was on during wuwa
Yea I meant permanently. Although the Tornado week has gone again so who knows
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This is going to be fixed, right?
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There's nothing wrong?
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There's nothing wrong?
He means the suns placed instead of the moons.
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There's nothing wrong?
He means the suns placed instead of the moons.
Yeah, I figure I should have specified that in that post. Nevertheless, I doubt it's sunny here at 10 in the evening, and I would know :P
Here we go...
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I have verified that the clock rotation is an issue. Eventually, the clock will be set to the local time only.
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So it will be dependent on the STAR (like it should have been from day 1)?
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It's funny how important a small thing like a clock can be. TWC must have been taking notes from NASA back when they forgot to convert their meters into feet for that Mars probe. >.>
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The time is not stuck on PT anymore. It's okay now.
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So it will be dependent on the STAR (like it should have been from day 1)?
Correct.
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So it will be dependent on the STAR (like it should have been from day 1)?
Correct.
Good to hear!
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LDL 3 cities for Boston, MA
Boston
Brockton
(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/1241/brck1.jpg)
Waltham
(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9099/walt1.jpg)
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What happened to the time on your LDL?
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What happened to the time on your LDL?
It alomost looks like it was Photoshopped out. :thinking:
Anyway, I'm glad the clock will run on STAR time, because I think it was running fast. :blink:
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What happened to the time on your LDL?
The screenshots were taken before the clock was added to the LDL.
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I was wondering what it would look like to see the new LDL on the satellite local forecast. Awkward looking, imo...
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what happened to the Dish Network LDL during the local on the 8s
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It's been removed.
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yeah all there is a a blue bar at the bottom that just disappears right when the precipitation forecast comes on
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haha oops :whistling:
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5009/snapshot18188110.jpg)
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haha oops :whistling:
([url]http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5009/snapshot18188110.jpg[/url])
I've seen that several times now, lol. I've seen the satellite LDL multiple times now, in addition to the bigger LDL cuing when the smaller one is supposed to. This new LDL thing is a mistake, no ifs, ands or butts about it.
Speaking of oopsies with the new LDL...
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Guess TWC should have listened to me (and many others) and just suck with one LDL...either the fat one or the skinny one, PICK!!! All of this could have been avoided!!!
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Well, it finally happened...
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WUWA has had sponsor logos
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Like I said, that new bigger LDL thing was a mistake. I was hoping I would see this happen at some point...
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They need to do something about the background behind the sponsor logo and time repeatedly disappearing. This seems to happen especially during long-form.
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It only happens if a. the star doesn't cue correctly or b. TWC forgets or has problems raising the background bar. It would be a pain to push every single sponsor logo to the STAR.
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I have a great idea! How about we go back to the one blue LDL that actually worked and did not have nearly as many issues?
*chuckles* Yeah, I like that idea :P
Wishful thinking, I know...
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It only happens if a. the star doesn't cue correctly or b. TWC forgets or has problems raising the background bar. It would be a pain to push every single sponsor logo to the STAR.
Oh, the logos are put up manually? That must be a pain. I knew this LDL would be pushing the Intellistar's limits, I know even the blue one was sort of pushing it.
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It only happens if a. the star doesn't cue correctly or b. TWC forgets or has problems raising the background bar. It would be a pain to push every single sponsor logo to the STAR.
Oh, the logos are put up manually? That must be a pain. I knew this LDL would be pushing the Intellistar's limits, I know even the blue one was sort of pushing it.
Yep thats the whole idea of the non built in part of the ldl. Otherwise each night the IS would have to receive whatever images it needs for certain days and schedules to display the logos. Probably a lot more complicated than it sounds. The way they have it now its just a simple overlay. Actually the IS is an extremely powerful system. Probably even capable of more than what its doing now.
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Haha, oops! :P
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I really wish they would just expand the LDL all the way over to the other side so they don't have to worry about that happening so much.
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It would be nice.
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update on the LDL on the LOT8s on Dish Network, the old LDL has return for the LOT8s after being gone for a few weeks, plus the new LDL is still working during the normal segments.
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update on the LDL on the LOT8s on Dish Network, the old LDL has return for the LOT8s after being gone for a few weeks, plus the new LDL is still working during the normal segments.
The national LDLs aren't put on by the ISs, but rather at TWC themselves. :yes:
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IMO, the XL LDL should still show at least when the smaller national/intellistar LDL is being used, so people can at least see their local weather in the morning and early evening when they need it most, as well as during long-form and movie time when local forecasts only show twice an hour or less.
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I don't get why gfx r tha reason 4 them to turn the xl LDL off. Most people wouldn't care anyways they just want weather info for their area not cities hundreds of miles away
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It seems to me like this is TWC's way of "forcing" the new graphics on the legacy STARs (the XL, at least). They know that the XL is much too old and outdated to receive any sort of graphics updates, so they just remove the presence of the LDL. I strongly disagree with the XL LDL being turned off, and it will never cease to amaze me how ignorant TWC is... I know a lot of people who are lucky enough to see the XL have complained.
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I totally agree to both of you. Just because it doesn't match with the on-air graphics doesn't give TWC an excuse to turn it off. The XL LDL matches just fine with the on-air graphics anyway.
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Mike has a point. But if the warning crawls are going, wouldn't the National LDL still be visible? :unsure:
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Mike has a point. But if the warning crawls are going, wouldn't the National LDL still be visible? :unsure:
Yep, that's what I call a fail. You only see part of it. :P
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Yeah, especially with the IS warning crawls. :P
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Alex was actually lucky enough to see that happen:
New Bedford IntelliStar: Flood Warning updated *Until 11:45pm EDT* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBUft-n7z6c#)
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It seems to me like this is TWC's way of "forcing" the new graphics on the legacy STARs (the XL, at least). They know that the XL is much too old and outdated to receive any sort of graphics updates, so they just remove the presence of the LDL. I strongly disagree with the XL LDL being turned off, and it will never cease to amaze me how ignorant TWC is... I know a lot of people who are lucky enough to see the XL have complained.
Actually is quite capable of doing most of the things the IS can do. Brian has done a nice job making an ldl
Willow Grove Weatherstar XL - April Fool's Day - 4/1/2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6KT4-JyC90#)
Mike has a point. But if the warning crawls are going, wouldn't the National LDL still be visible? :unsure:
Yep, that's what I call a fail. You only see part of it. :P
What do you mean? You always will see the ldl behind the scroll if its the big one. When a warning scroll is created it overlaps the ldl. Since they used to be the same size you didn't see it.
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Which is exactly why I said it was a fail. Not all the weather data on the big LDL can be seen when it's being overlapped by the WWA crawls.
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Does the XL not have fading capabilities like the IntelliStar does (i.e. fading in/out of text on the LDL and localonthe8s)?
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LDL Question:
Is it just on the large local city LDL where there are the "tabs" for things like Now, Tonight, A Look Ahead, Radar, etc? :dunno: I thought those "tabs" were on the small one too...I guess not. :thinking:
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LDL Question:
Is it just on the large local city LDL where there are the "tabs" for things like Now, Tonight, A Look Ahead, Radar, etc? :dunno: I thought those "tabs" were on the small one too...I guess not. :thinking:
They are not on the small one but the National Small LDL has the next 3 or 4 cities lined up like Tabs.
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there was an LDL glitch today
the big and small LDLs were on at the same time
Its on youtube
the video title is Lower Weather Display Line -Oops
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there was an LDL glitch today
the big and small LDLs were on at the same time
Its on youtube
the video title is Lower Weather Display Line -Oops
Umm link please? :unsure:
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Are you saying the national large ldl was on and the small IS ldl was overtop of it? If so thats nothing new. Happens now and then
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Finally, looks like the Intellistar's local time has been added on the LDL. Looks a bit small though.
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there was an LDL glitch today
the big and small LDLs were on at the same time
Its on youtube
the video title is Lower Weather Display Line -Oops
Umm link please? :unsure:
Here is the link Lower Weather Display Line -- Oops. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU4uUf41XdQ#)
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Finally, looks like the Intellistar's local time has been added on the LDL. Looks a bit small though.
Noticed that this morning. Looks good!
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The Temp seems to have been shrunken, moved to the left and the Time just to it's right, still kinda tiny on the Large LDL
(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/973/largeldltime.jpg)
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Took 'em long enough... and I agree, it's too small. Should be the same size as the temperature.
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And an AM/PM would be nice
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And an AM/PM would be nice
I think people know whether it's AM or PM... plus, the previous LDL didn't have AM/PM either.
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For whatever reason, "Downtown Lansing", which is far too big for that "tab" on the bigger LDL, appears when the radar and sat/rad are displayed on the LDL. However, it displays simply "Lansing" for all other CC and forecast products.
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For whatever reason, "Downtown Lansing", which is far too big for that "tab" on the bigger LDL, appears when the radar and sat/rad are displayed on the LDL. However, it displays simply "Lansing" for all other CC and forecast products.
Guess they forgot to remove it. TWC axed all of the downtown, etc stuff.
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For whatever reason, "Downtown Lansing", which is far too big for that "tab" on the bigger LDL, appears when the radar and sat/rad are displayed on the LDL. However, it displays simply "Lansing" for all other CC and forecast products.
Guess they forgot to remove it. TWC axed all of the downtown, etc stuff.
No, the reason I brought it up was because that wasn't happening before this morning... and it only appears for the radar and sat/rad. The temp also disappears when those two tabs are up.
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I have noticed on 24745 that on the "alert" page of the new LDL, the city is displayed as "DTW'N MEMPHIS", while during regular cycles, simply says "MEMPHIS".
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For whatever reason, "Downtown Lansing", which is far too big for that "tab" on the bigger LDL, appears when the radar and sat/rad are displayed on the LDL. However, it displays simply "Lansing" for all other CC and forecast products.
Guess they forgot to remove it. TWC axed all of the downtown, etc stuff.
No, the reason I brought it up was because that wasn't happening before this morning... and it only appears for the radar and sat/rad. The temp also disappears when those two tabs are up.
Hmm wonder if when they added the update for the clock a few things on the side changed. Shouldn't but thats still interesting.
I have noticed on 24745 that on the "alert" page of the new LDL, the city is displayed as "DTW'N MEMPHIS", while during regular cycles, simply says "MEMPHIS".
Unless thats new its leftover from when the update occurred. Mine still does that I think
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For whatever reason, "Downtown Lansing", which is far too big for that "tab" on the bigger LDL, appears when the radar and sat/rad are displayed on the LDL. However, it displays simply "Lansing" for all other CC and forecast products.
Something must have happened with the update then. They are doing away with "downtown," "metro," etc. The forecast and current ob names will soon be very specific (for example, no more "Allegheny Valley," it will become just New Kensington; "Downtown Pittsburgh" and "Metro Pittsburgh" will become just Pittsburgh, etc).
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Speaking of clocks what happened to the clock on the satellite LDL
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Speaking of clocks what happened to the clock on the satellite LDL
Was it on the bottom left? Guess TWC never integrated it into the actual ldl yet. They took it off once the IS got a clock
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Speaking of clocks what happened to the clock on the satellite LDL
When the new LDL debuted, there was no clock, period. Shortly thereafter, a clock that cycled through the four time zones was displayed on the lower-left of the screen as part of the national broadcast. (The far left of the LDL actually isn't part of the LDL anymore, but rather is now part of the national broadcast.) Just very recently did the Intellistar display the local time on the LDL, meaning the nationally-broadcast clock was removed. The addition of the clock actually resulted in the shrinking and moving (slightly) of the temperature on the larger LDL.
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It would be nice if the national LDL could get a clock somewhere. I know it would look funny if they put it where it was, viewers with intellistars would see two clocks, but if they could shorten the tabs and put it there? With the cities in alphabetical order, it's not too hard to know when the city you're looking for is coming.
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It would be nice if the national LDL could get a clock somewhere. I know it would look funny if they put it where it was, viewers with intellistars would see two clocks, but if they could shorten the tabs and put it there? With the cities in alphabetical order, it's not too hard to know when the city you're looking for is coming.
Yes, if the national LDL were to have a clock, it would have to be on the tab instead of on the lower-left part of the screen. As you said, no one wants two clocks. :yes:
Then again, I don't believe the national feed without an LDL ever had a clock in it before, anyway, so the way things are now really aren't any different than they've ever been where the clock is concerned. The clcok was displayed nationally, as far as I know, to accomidate the Intellistar viewers for the brief period of time when the Intellistar didn't display a clock. As for viewers of the XL, 4000, and Jr., I think TWC is becoming less interested in supporting older systems. And I don't disagree with that decision. The 4000 is twenty years old this year, and, while it did its job very well at the time, TWC could hardly claim to be cutting-edge and up-to-date with technology if, for example, the majority of cable companies in the year 2010 happened to still be using this twenty-year-old technology. The XL is already over 10 years old. TWC is looking ahead to the HD STAR and furthering its HD programming, so attention has to be taken away from older systems.
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Then again, I don't believe the national feed without an LDL ever had a clock in it before, anyway, so the way things are now really aren't any different than they've ever been where the clock is concerned. The clcok was displayed nationally, as far as I know, to accomidate the Intellistar viewers for the brief period of time when the Intellistar didn't display a clock.
Yeah, this is completely true, however with Dish network and DirecTV, they both used a national LDL that had the time cycling through time zones, just like how the temporary national clock was.
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Then again, I don't believe the national feed without an LDL ever had a clock in it before, anyway, so the way things are now really aren't any different than they've ever been where the clock is concerned. The clcok was displayed nationally, as far as I know, to accomidate the Intellistar viewers for the brief period of time when the Intellistar didn't display a clock.
Yeah, this is completely true, however with Dish network and DirecTV, they both used a national LDL that had the time cycling through time zones, just like how the temporary national clock was.
Ah, but that national LDL wasn't exactly a part of the national feed.
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Exactly.
The clock and LDL were not a part of the national feed, but the LDL now is a part of the national feed, but missing the clock. I know the clock isn't really necessary, and most people probably don't care because they have plenty clocks as it is. I don't know why I think it would be nice to have it on there, just seems like Jr./4000/XL/Sat viewers should get one if intellistar viewers get one.
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The new National LDL is indeed part of the actual TWC feed now. And like Eric said, before the 3/11/10 update, the LDL seen on Dish and DirecTV were from actual IS units, not TWC.
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Then again, I don't believe the national feed without an LDL ever had a clock in it before, anyway, so the way things are now really aren't any different than they've ever been where the clock is concerned. The clcok was displayed nationally, as far as I know, to accomidate the Intellistar viewers for the brief period of time when the Intellistar didn't display a clock.
Yeah, this is completely true, however with Dish network and DirecTV, they both used a national LDL that had the time cycling through time zones, just like how the temporary national clock was.
OK, I should rephrase, I meant that Dish Network and Directv each used their own Intellistar units that were national(i.e. not localized), and for Dish Network, they are using it for Local on the 8's now (don't know about DirecTV). I know the LDL wasn't part of the national feed.
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Then again, I don't believe the national feed without an LDL ever had a clock in it before, anyway, so the way things are now really aren't any different than they've ever been where the clock is concerned. The clcok was displayed nationally, as far as I know, to accomidate the Intellistar viewers for the brief period of time when the Intellistar didn't display a clock.
Yeah, this is completely true, however with Dish network and DirecTV, they both used a national LDL that had the time cycling through time zones, just like how the temporary national clock was.
OK, I should rephrase, I meant that Dish Network and Directv each used an Intellistar that was national(i.e. not localized). I know the LDL wasn't part of the national feed.
It never has been until 2010. :no: And IIRC, DirecTV got theirs in 2004 when Dish got theirs in 2007.
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I think you're right on that, I'm pretty sure the LDL showed up on DirecTV before Dish. The blue IS LDL on Dish is being used during Local on the 8's again, after disappearing for a few weeks. Don't know about DirecTV.
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DirecTV still has their IS. The only different thing from Dish is no LDL on the LF, in which I really miss. :(
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Maybe TWC and DirecTV teamed up so you don't know that LOT8's aren't really happening on the 8's? (No clock) :fear: :D
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Maybe TWC and DirecTV teamed up so you don't know that LOT8's aren't really happening on the 8's? (No clock) :fear: :D
Hahaha! Nice one :D
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i agree
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i agree
Please refrain from posts like this, especially after a couple days...
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i agree
Please refrain from posts like this, especially after a couple days...
Yes please do. Posts like those that do not contribute to the topic can be considered spam. Just a heads up
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Just a quick question - signifying agreement without contributing something new isn't really allowed on this forum?
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Just a quick question - signifying agreement without contributing something new isn't really allowed on this forum?
It would be more helpful if he quoted a post and/or gave a reason for agreeing.
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Just a quick question - signifying agreement without contributing something new isn't really allowed on this forum?
Don't worry about it. This was a trouble user who we had problems with. Its fine to agree with something. This user went around making 20 posts in 10min with two words in each post that dont contribute anything.
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*Bump*
I know this has been discussed before, but is anyone getting a clock on the SD LDLs? :dunno: I think a clock may be provided for viewers with a STAR, but there is NO clock whatsoever on the national LDLs. :no: (And I know no clocks are present on HD LDLs, either. :()
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*Bump*
I know this has been discussed before, but is anyone getting a clock on the SD LDLs? :dunno: I think a clock may be provided for viewers with a STAR, but there is NO clock whatsoever on the national LDLs. :no: (And I know no clocks are present on HD LDLs, either. :()
Yeah, it has been like that since 4/14. I would expect they'll add a clock for satellite/legacy STAR viewers eventually.
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I know this has been discussed before, but is anyone getting a clock on the SD LDLs? :dunno: I think a clock may be provided for viewers with a STAR, but there is NO clock whatsoever on the national LDLs. :no: (And I know no clocks are present on HD LDLs, either. :()
Yeah, it has been like that since 4/14. I would expect they'll add a clock for satellite/legacy STAR viewers eventually.
Yeah, I wish they would. :yes: I see no reason why a clock is on the STAR LDL and not the national. :no: And, to me, the clock is helpful...especially if TWC is on TV in public places without a nearby clock.
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I know this has been discussed before, but is anyone getting a clock on the SD LDLs? :dunno: I think a clock may be provided for viewers with a STAR, but there is NO clock whatsoever on the national LDLs. :no: (And I know no clocks are present on HD LDLs, either. :()
Yeah, it has been like that since 4/14. I would expect they'll add a clock for satellite/legacy STAR viewers eventually.
Yeah, I wish they would. :yes: I see no reason why a clock is on the STAR LDL and not the national. :no: And, to me, the clock is helpful...especially if TWC is on TV in public places without a nearby clock.
Just one of the many reasons I hate the new LDL system. They got rid of a system that worked for one that does not.
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It's a lot easier with the new system though for the sponsor tags. All it requires is changing a graphic, as opposed to sending updates to all the STARs everyday.
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Just one of the many reasons I hate the new LDL system. They got rid of a system that worked for one that does not.
Just because it doesn't have a clock on the national ldl and you don't like it doesn't mean its a system that doesn't work. If there is intent to add a clock (and it was clear they didn't intend to add it originally) the national ldl is usually the last thing on the list. Its not that big of a priority either
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I knew you were going to argue that. Can't we just for once ignore posts we disagree with? I have my reasons for saying what I do, and there's no need to argue everything I say, especially if it is several posts above.
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TWC's public relations have researched that a clock isn't well-requested.
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I knew you were going to argue that. Can't we just for once ignore posts we disagree with? I have my reasons for saying what I do, and there's no need to argue everything I say, especially if it is several posts above.
You have your reasons? I am not arguing but stating what I believe. Get over it :rolleyes:
TWC's public relations have researched that a clock isn't well-requested.
Exactly. Its an accessory not a necessity
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I knew you were going to argue that. Can't we just for once ignore posts we disagree with? I have my reasons for saying what I do, and there's no need to argue everything I say, especially if it is several posts above.
Then you probably knew I was going to chime in too.
As Mike said, TWC, as do all media outlets, researches extensively before implementing changes on-air. There clearly isn't a want for a clock or I can assure you it would be there. The clock wasn't on domestic IntelliStar's new LDL until it was extensively requested.
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Curious does TWC still use Nielson ratings?
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Yes they do.
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I don't see the big deal of a clock on the LDL anyways. I always wear a watch when I'm in public and there are like 5 clocks in my TV room. With the National LDL having a clock, local STARs would get two clocks and that would be confusing. You can't put the clock atop because the "up next" cities go there.
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Oh, I wasn't complaining about the clock. I have the Intellistar, so I couldn't care less about the satellite LDL. I have half a dozen clocks in my room anyways.
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Oh, I wasn't complaining about the clock. I have the Intellistar, so I couldn't care less about the satellite LDL. I have half a dozen clocks in my room anyways.
Don't forget that watch on your left wrist too. :P
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Oh, I wasn't complaining about the clock. I have the Intellistar, so I couldn't care less about the satellite LDL. I have half a dozen clocks in my room anyways.
Don't forget that watch on your left wrist too. :P
Off topic, but how did you know that? :P
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Oh, I wasn't complaining about the clock. I have the Intellistar, so I couldn't care less about the satellite LDL. I have half a dozen clocks in my room anyways.
Don't forget that watch on your left wrist too. :P
Off topic, but how did you know that? :P
The array of hidden cameras in your room. Good luck finding them all ;)
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Oh, I wasn't complaining about the clock. I have the Intellistar, so I couldn't care less about the satellite LDL. I have half a dozen clocks in my room anyways.
Don't forget that watch on your left wrist too. :P
Off topic, but how did you know that? :P
The array of hidden cameras in your room. Good luck finding them all ;)
uhoh you better watch out Aaron, everyone's after ya.. :bleh:
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Yeah, I'm not paranoid enough as it is :P
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I knew you were going to argue that. Can't we just for once ignore posts we disagree with? I have my reasons for saying what I do, and there's no need to argue everything I say, especially if it is several posts above.
That's weird that they wouldn't discover the want of such a simple thing as a clock in their "research" to being with since after they do something without it, people go nuts and want it on whatever product they put out. One would think this would be a substantial sign to keep the clock and not have to reinvent the wheel 5 times.
Then you probably knew I was going to chime in too.
As Mike said, TWC, as do all media outlets, researches extensively before implementing changes on-air. There clearly isn't a want for a clock or I can assure you it would be there. The clock wasn't on domestic IntelliStar's new LDL until it was extensively requested.
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Why did you just quote without putting your own message? :dunno:
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Why did you just quote without putting your own message? :dunno:
I think he just mesed up with the quotes. ;) Here's his message:
That's weird that they wouldn't discover the want of such a simple thing as a clock in their "research" to being with since after they do something without it, people go nuts and want it on whatever product they put out. One would think this would be a substantial sign to keep the clock and not have to reinvent the wheel 5 times.
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Ah, ok. That makes sense.
:offtopic: ALSO: This is my 200th post! :offtopic:
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I know this has been discussed before, but is anyone getting a clock on the SD LDLs? :dunno: I think a clock may be provided for viewers with a STAR, but there is NO clock whatsoever on the national LDLs. :no: (And I know no clocks are present on HD LDLs, either. :()
A clock was briefly added in the lower left (the part of the LDL that is national even for Intellistar viewers), but once the Intellistars got their own clocks on the new LDL, the national clock was removed. Maybe someday they'll bring it back, especially considering it's not only the satellite viewers who see the national LDL now, but also all cable viewers with a non-Intellistar system - that's the XL, 4000, and Jr.
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Sorry about the quotes thing. It was a fast reply while I still had the thought in my head.
I'm curious who TWC surveys when making decisions because it appears it's the wrong viewing audience. Generally non-informational long-form programming, no clocks on new graphics, hodge-podge graphic themes between shows and products (such as SD vs HD), etc.
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Sorry about the quotes thing. It was a fast reply while I still had the thought in my head.
I'm curious who TWC surveys when making decisions because it appears it's the wrong viewing audience. Generally non-informational long-form programming, no clocks on new graphics, hodge-podge graphic themes between shows and products (such as SD vs HD), etc.
They likely hire (happy Springy :P )a research company that takes many many focus groups and gets data from them. For the general population the moves they make are not poorly received or they wouldn't be making the changes
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During a commercial at 12:16AM CDT on 6/29, my XL's Black Bar LDL made a 3 second appearance. :dunno: This is not a joke, and I wasn't seeing things. It was a very exciting 3 seconds! lol. I wish I had been recording it.
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During a commercial at 12:16AM CDT on 6/29, my XL's Black Bar LDL made a 3 second appearance. :dunno: This is not a joke, and I wasn't seeing things. It was a very exciting 3 seconds! lol. I wish I had been recording it.
Brian confirmed to me earlier that this did happen. I imagine it was some mistake
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During a commercial at 12:16AM CDT on 6/29, my XL's Black Bar LDL made a 3 second appearance. :dunno: This is not a joke, and I wasn't seeing things. It was a very exciting 3 seconds! lol. I wish I had been recording it.
Brian confirmed to me earlier that this did happen. I imagine it was some mistake
I thought Brian cued his XL LDL by himself?
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During a commercial at 12:16AM CDT on 6/29, my XL's Black Bar LDL made a 3 second appearance. :dunno: This is not a joke, and I wasn't seeing things. It was a very exciting 3 seconds! lol. I wish I had been recording it.
Brian confirmed to me earlier that this did happen. I imagine it was some mistake
I thought Brian cued his XL LDL by himself?
Yes but he noticed something was randomly cued by TWC themselves last night
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HD LDL with no data
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This morning, I saw the national SD LDL show white boxes for icons, like how the HD LF has done in the past.
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HD LDL with no data
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This has persisted past the top of the hour. :blink: I'm surprised this hasn't been fixed...the icons are correct, but there is no text.
Also, as of 5:10 CT, no LDL is appearing on the SD feed. :no:
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Somebody really effed up this time :P. I wonder why the main city name disappears.
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Looks like TWC found out they goofed and took off the HD LDL
Edit: @ 7 the LDL cued again with no data and was turned off again 1 min later.
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The data has returned as of 651pm central time.