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Classics - The Weather Channel from 1982-1999 => Local Forecast => Topic started by: wxntrafficfan on March 03, 2009, 08:45:59 AM
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Believe it or not, there are several locations where Weatherstar 4000 exists, and here they are, according to wikipedia (I know, it is not the best site out there for information, but it is better than nothing :yes: ):
City/town, State
-Auburn University, Alabama
-Fairfield Bay, Arkansas
-Pine Bluff, Arkansas
-Lakeville, Connecticut
-Mexico Beach, Florida
-Springfield, Florida
-Belleville, Illinois
-Bellevue, Illinois
-Litchfield, Illinois
-Metropolis, Illinois
-Churdan, Iowa
-Monona, Iowa
-Perry/Lecompton, Kansas
-Topeka, Kansas
-Russell, Kansas
-Fort Polk, Louisiana
-Bel Air, Maryland
-Yale, Michigan (last confirmed in 2006, I hope to be going there this year to re-confirm).
-Muskegon, Michigan
-Brookfield, Missouri
-Kirksville, Missouri
-Taos, New Mexico
-Ocracoke, North Carolina
-Carrington, North Dakota
-Barlow, North Dakota
-New Rockford, North Dakota
-Devils Lake, North Dakota
-Bismarck, North Dakota
-LaGrange, Ohio Cleveland
-Bentleyville, Pennsylvania
-Rochester, Pennsylvania
-Forest City, Pennsylvania
-State College, Pennsylvania
-Walnut Bottom, Pennsylvania
-Weedville, Pennsylvania
-Ramona, South Dakota
-Decatur, Texas Dallas
Enjoy! :biggrin:
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That looks like a pretty complete list. You even included the 4000 here in Bel Air! :biggrin:
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That looks like a pretty complete list. You even included the 4000 here in Bel Air! :biggrin:
Have you posted videos of this 4000? f so, I would like to see it :yes:
Also, as mentioned above, I hope to be going to Yale, MI during Spring Break in April. I hope that the 4000 still exists there. If not, it will be an XL, because Intellistar is not necessay there :thumbsup:
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-St. Louis, Missouri (backup)
4000 in St Louis? I find that hard to believe. :huh: And what do you mean by 'backup'?
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That looks like a pretty complete list. You even included the 4000 here in Bel Air! :biggrin:
Have you posted videos of this 4000? f so, I would like to see it :yes:
Also, as mentioned above, I hope to be going to Yale, MI during Spring Break in April. I hope that the 4000 still exists there. If not, it will be an XL, because Intellistar is not necessay there :thumbsup:
I don't have that STAR, and its not my video. I live near Baltimore, not in Bel Air. Search YouTube for it.
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The Rochester PA 4000 is gone. Replaced by the Istar early last year.
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Damn, another one bites the dust. :pinch:
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AFAIK NASA langley in Hampton, VA still has a unit although its not long for this world. Thing fails to cue all the time.
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Theres one thats in Peoria, IL from a Mediacom headend, and its in good shape!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iibfn2Pzo#hq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iibfn2Pzo#hq)
Back when we had cable, our provider was Comcast and they have always seem to be up to date with the WeatherSTARs. We already lost our 4000 back in 1999.
Heres some video I recorded from our IntelliSTAR (22878). The video above was taken last October while the video below was recored from April 2007.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leuPnVhpcB4#hq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leuPnVhpcB4#hq)
I just hope Mediacom doesn't upgrade their 4000!
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-St. Louis, Missouri (backup)
4000 in St Louis? I find that hard to believe. :huh: And what do you mean by 'backup'?
I copied the list over from wikipedia, and I was in a huge hurry when I did so. Either that is the observation site for a nearby 4000, or that was an error.
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Theres one thats in Peoria, IL from a Mediacom headend, and its in good shape!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iibfn2Pzo#hq[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iibfn2Pzo#hq[/url])
Back when we had cable, our provider was Comcast and they have always seem to be up to date with the WeatherSTARs. We already lost our 4000 back in 1999.
Heres some video I recorded from our IntelliSTAR (22878). The video above was taken last October while the video below was recored from April 2007.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leuPnVhpcB4#hq[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leuPnVhpcB4#hq[/url])
I just hope Mediacom doesn't upgrade their 4000!
So why exactly are you showing us your IS in a thread about the 4000? :unsure:
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Damn, another one bites the dust. :pinch:
Yeah, it's sad :(
Although most WS 4000's that are being upgraded are being upgraded to the XL, the Intellistar is far cheaper and has more features. Most 4000's and XLs that remain exist in areas that there would be no point to have Intellistar. These include rural, sparsely populated, or mountainous areas. If the specific cable provider/headend decides that it is necessary to change to the Intellistar because the area is populated enough and coverage area warrants it, then they will do so. But if the area is sparsely populated and/or large, then the headend will likely either stay with 4000 or upgrade to XL if they have the money.
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Damn, another one bites the dust. :pinch:
Yeah, it's sad :(
Although most WS 4000's that are being upgraded are being upgraded to the XL, the Intellistar is far cheaper and has more features. Most 4000's and XLs that remain exist in areas that there would be no point to have Intellistar. These include rural, sparsely populated, or mountainous areas. If the specific cable provider/headend decides that it is necessary to change to the Intellistar because the area is populated enough and coverage area warrants it, then they will do so. But if the area is sparsely populated and/or large, then the headend will likely either stay with 4000 or upgrade to XL if they have the money.
Yeah, I know how it works. :biggrin:
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Damn, another one bites the dust. :pinch:
Yeah, it's sad :(
Although most WS 4000's that are being upgraded are being upgraded to the XL, the Intellistar is far cheaper and has more features. Most 4000's and XLs that remain exist in areas that there would be no point to have Intellistar. These include rural, sparsely populated, or mountainous areas. If the specific cable provider/headend decides that it is necessary to change to the Intellistar because the area is populated enough and coverage area warrants it, then they will do so. But if the area is sparsely populated and/or large, then the headend will likely either stay with 4000 or upgrade to XL if they have the money.
Yeah, I know how it works. :biggrin:
I'm sure you do :thumbsup:
I was just typing that to respond to the 4000 being downgraded to Intellistar :P
It is sad to hear about a 4000 going to an Intellistar :(
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Unfortunately, Bismarck, ND hasn't had a 4000 since the invention of Intellistar
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Pine Bluff has a 4000? Woah.
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Pine Bluff has a 4000? Woah.
Yes, there have been videos posted of it B)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dCkHDHcQ8k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dCkHDHcQ8k#)
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Pine Bluff has a 4000? Woah.
Yes, there have been videos posted of it B)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dCkHDHcQ8k#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dCkHDHcQ8k#[/url])
That's the 4000 Emulator, not the real thing. ;)
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The WeatherSTAR 4000 in Fort Polk, Louisiana is a WeatherSTAR XL now, and there is a WeatherSTAR4000 in Lake Charles, Louisiana. However, it may be an XL or Istar now; I'm not sure atm. Sorry I don't have 'proof' but the next time I visit I'll record some LFs.
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Found the PB 4000 videos- these appear to be genuine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0UihdNXyko# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0UihdNXyko#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8OXzbJ4cnM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8OXzbJ4cnM#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_R5w0uv-M#ws-hd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_R5w0uv-M#ws-hd)
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Love one of the radar locations
"HOT" :rofl2:
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....Springs, AR. That's the IATA/FAA code for Hot Springs Memorial Field. Generic Cessna farm IIRC.
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Probably not the right place to post but does anyone *cough Tyler* know of any places in the P'burgh that use an XL or a JR, 4000 because I may be going there in the spring and I was wondering if any motels in the area might use an older STAR.
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I'd imagine you're staying within the city, and in that case, no, they all have either Comcast (with an Istar) or satellite.
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When I lived in Fort Leonard Wood, MO, there was also a WeatherSTAR 4000 with Cableamerica. I do not know if it is still in use today though. When I lived there, the current conditions at the bottom of the screen would become stuck in green about once a month.
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When I lived in Fort Leonard Wood, MO, there was also a WeatherSTAR 4000 with Cableamerica. I do not know if it is still in use today though. When I lived there, the current conditions at the bottom of the screen would become stuck in green about once a month.
Hmm. I didn't know that. I was there in April 2007, but I stayed in Rolla, MO, which had (or maybe still does, I don't know) Weatherstar XL.
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A small cable company in Fort Polk, LA had a WeatherSTAR 3000 when I lived there. It was not Cebridge (Suddenlink). However, I do not know of the name of the company.
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Sorry if this is considered a bump or not, but I believe Hickory, NC still has one. My dad was there last summer, and he said they had "a blue and orange local forecast with very few graphics," so that's obviously the WS4000.
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Hey guys, I was the one that found the LaGrange 4000. I last saw it 1 or 2 summers ago with my dad when we were out there doing work. At the time, they had a local cable company that got replaced by Windstream. Hopefully sometime I'll be able to go back out there and see if they still have it.
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Hey guys, I was the one that found the LaGrange 4000. I last saw it 1 or 2 summers ago with my dad when we were out there doing work. At the time, they had a local cable company that got replaced by Windstream. Hopefully sometime I'll be able to go back out there and see if they still have it.
I am going on a hunt for a 4000 unit next month, and I was considering LaGrange, OH, but there are not many hotels there.
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Toledo probably has hotels, but then again, that's still pretty far west of LaGrange. BTW, when I saw the 4000, me and my dad were in a restaurant (can't think of the name) and one of the TVs was on TWC. It only seemed to use the LM flavor. (I just checked and it's about 2 hours on the highway from Toledo to LaGrange, so...)
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Frankfort had a 4000 in 1999, Videos are posted of it, not by me, the same guy with the only real Weathrscan XL v.1 clip on YT
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West Plains, MO, my podunk town, has one as of March. Charter.
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Tucumcari, New Mexico had a WS4000; I discovered it 2 days ago.
Mind you, it's the most degraded STAR I've ever seen in my life and out of all the videos I've seen of degraded ones, you could hardly tell it was a 4000.
I have a crappy clip of it on a camera, but it'll be a while before I can post it because the computer I brought on my trip doesn't recognize the required card reader.
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Tucumcari, New Mexico had a WS4000; I discovered it 2 days ago.
Mind you, it's the most degraded STAR I've ever seen in my life and out of all the videos I've seen of degraded ones, you could hardly tell it was a 4000.
I have a crappy clip of it on a camera, but it'll be a while before I can post it because the computer I brought on my trip doesn't recognize the required card reader.
I also noticed how 'rusty' that Star 4000 is, compared to the other ones I watched. I haven't seen one like that in a while. The only other one that had such a problem was in Perry/Lecompton, KS, located near Topeka, back in 2006.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTEVjkcWRW0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTEVjkcWRW0#)
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I would like to add one more city that has the WeatherStar 4000...Roanoke/Wadley/Wedowee, AL. Communicomm uses that and it looks like they won't upgrade until they can't find parts anymore...
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I'm wondering if there's any of these WeatherStar 4000 systems in use near Green Bay, Wisconsin. If there are, they would most likely be found in some small towns in northern Brown County, Shawano County, and southern Oconto County.
Here are some possible WeathereStar 4000 locations:
Pulaski, Wisconsin (They had had a Star Jr in 1998, when I lived there, it's possible that they upgraded to the 4000)
Oconto, Wisconsin (I lived here in 1994-1995 when they had a Star III, it's possible that they upgraded to a 4000 or XL.)
Gillett, Wisconsin (Had a Star III when I lived there in 1996-1998, it is possible they upgraded to the 4000 when the III was decommissioned in 2004, since their population is lower than 2,000)
Clintonville, Wisconsin (Formerly had a WeatherStar III, unsure if they upgraded to a 4000 or Jr.)
Bonduel, Wisconsin (I'm unsure about this one...)
Oconto Falls (When I lived here from 1994 to 1996, they had a WeatherStar 4000, it is pssible that they upgraded to an XL.)
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Oconto Falls (When I lived here from 1994 to 1996, they had a WeatherStar 4000, it is possible that they upgraded to an XL.)
Oconto Falls is currently listed in the XL list on Wikipedia, so yes, it does appear as though that STAR was upgraded from a 4000. :yes:
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the Taos weatherstar4000 CC site has been changed to Angel Fire
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Believe it or not, there are several locations where Weatherstar 4000 exists, and here they are, according to wikipedia (I know, it is not the best site out there for information, but it is better than nothing :yes: ):
City/town, State
-Auburn University, Alabama
-Fairfield Bay, Arkansas
-Pine Bluff, Arkansas
-Lakeville, Connecticut
-Mexico Beach, Florida
-Springfield, Florida
-Belleville, Illinois
-Bellevue, Illinois
-Litchfield, Illinois
-Metropolis, Illinois
-Churdan, Iowa
-Monona, Iowa
-Perry/Lecompton, Kansas
-Topeka, Kansas
-Russell, Kansas
-Fort Polk, Louisiana
-Bel Air, Maryland
-Yale, Michigan (last confirmed in 2006, I hope to be going there this year to re-confirm).
-Muskegon, Michigan
-Brookfield, Missouri
-Kirksville, Missouri
-Angel Fire, New Mexico
-Ocracoke, North Carolina
-Carrington, North Dakota
-Barlow, North Dakota
-New Rockford, North Dakota
-Devils Lake, North Dakota
-Bismarck, North Dakota
-LaGrange, Ohio Cleveland
-Bentleyville, Pennsylvania
-Rochester, Pennsylvania
-Forest City, Pennsylvania
-State College, Pennsylvania
-Walnut Bottom, Pennsylvania
-Weedville, Pennsylvania
-Ramona, South Dakota
-Decatur, Texas Dallas
Enjoy! :biggrin:
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The Weatherstar 4000 is being decommissioned on March 3 along with the Weatherstar Junior! I'm so mad at the FCC for this!!! It's a sad day for legacy Weatherstar fans.
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The Weatherstar 4000 is being decommissioned on March 3 along with the Weatherstar Junior! I'm so mad at the FCC for this!!! It's a sad day for legacy Weatherstar fans.
No it is not
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I just found out that the support.weather.com webpage is down. I wounder if they are planning on ending support of the 4000 and Junior? They could be updating the website, who knows.
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I just found out that the support.weather.com webpage is down. I wounder if they are planning on ending support of the 4000 and Junior? They could be updating the website, who knows.
Been down for over a month
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The 4000 and Junior are not being decommissioned. It is just a rumor that someone started on TWC Classics. I can't believe I was stupid enough to think it was real and then tell everyone on TWC Classics and TWC Today!!! :angry:
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Next time, I advise you to check your sources rather than go by an unproven rumor. Let's please get back on topic here, which is listing 4000 locations that still remain.
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I can still confirm that West Plains, Missouri, has a 4000 as of February 4th. I should note that I see zero degradation.
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Bismarck, ND hasn't had a 4000 since the big changeover to the XLs
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I work for Ritter Communications and we use the 4000 which services Marked Tree, AR Blytheville, AR and most neighboring rural communities. We have seen no degradation on our 4000.
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I work for Ritter Communications and we use the 4000 which services Marked Tree, AR Blytheville, AR and most neighboring rural communities. We have seen no degradation on our 4000.
Thanks for the update Greg and for visiting our forums! :)
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Pryor Oklahoma, Still Uses A 4000 Current Conditions are from claremore.
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Greg, so there IS a 4000 near Marked Tree!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?! That is close to me! I might hop over the river one day to record it!!!!! :thrilled: :thrilled: :thrilled:
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I remember a good while back that Elizabeth City, N.C. still had a 4000. I wonder if they still have it.
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Sorry to bring up an old topic but Topeka, KS Hasn't had an 4000 in years. The videos seen online are from the Perry and Lecompton, KS areas where their cable service (SCI Cable Inc.) has a 4000.
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I can account for the 4000 still being in State College, PA as of April 17, 2010 (although they switched from a small local company, D&E, to a national company, Windstream. Goodbye, WS4000. :thumbdown: )
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I can account for the 4000 still being in State College, PA as of April 17, 2010 (although they switched from a small local company, D&E, to a national company, Windstream. Goodbye, WS4000. :thumbdown: )
Wait so they still have the 4000 or not?
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Sounds like an assumption to me that a switch of companies means a switch of STAR units. Until someone visits the area and actually gets video, no one knows for sure.
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I am surprised that nobody has found a Star 4000 for Wisconsin, yet. I know there might possibly be a few scattered around Green Bay and Appleton, in places like Pulaski, Seymour, or Oconto.
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I work for Bledsoe Telephone in Pikeville TN we still use a 4000. sometimes I have to powercycle it because it will get stuck on the locals.
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I work for Bledsoe Telephone in Pikeville TN we still use a 4000. sometimes I have to powercycle it because it will get stuck on the locals.
Wow! if I may ask, what does "powercycling" mean?
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I work for Bledsoe Telephone in Pikeville TN we still use a 4000. sometimes I have to powercycle it because it will get stuck on the locals.
Wow! if I may ask, what does "powercycling" mean?
rebooting by pulling the power
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When I powercycle the 4000 I remove the front panel and put the toggle switch for the batteries to the off position then power off the 4000 with the switch located on the back for about 45 seconds. then turn both switches to the on position.
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Wayne, can you send me a private message?
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In terms of who is allowed to post where, when, and why, this is, sadly, not only the strictest forum I've ever visited, but the rules sometimes seem downright hysterical.
Is it really worth criticising everyone who makes such a minor "violation," especially in public? Maintaining order is one thing, and a worthy cause, but sometimes it just sounds like people are after a power fix, and that disturbs me.
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I am surprised that nobody has found a Star 4000 for Wisconsin, yet. I know there might possibly be a few scattered around Green Bay and Appleton, in places like Pulaski, Seymour, or Oconto.
Oconto most likely sees 24808 out of Marinette and Menominee.
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In terms of who is allowed to post where, when, and why, this is, sadly, not only the strictest forum I've ever visited, but the rules sometimes seem downright hysterical.
Is it really worth criticising everyone who makes such a minor "violation," especially in public? Maintaining order is one thing, and a worthy cause, but sometimes it just sounds like people are after a power fix, and that disturbs me.
What specifically are you referring to in this topic?
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In terms of who is allowed to post where, when, and why, this is, sadly, not only the strictest forum I've ever visited, but the rules sometimes seem downright hysterical.
Is it really worth criticising everyone who makes such a minor "violation," especially in public? Maintaining order is one thing, and a worthy cause, but sometimes it just sounds like people are after a power fix, and that disturbs me.
What specifically are you referring to in this topic?
I posted something about bumping a 6 month old topic when you could have personal messaged him...and then I realized I went too far and deleted the post.
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In terms of who is allowed to post where, when, and why, this is, sadly, not only the strictest forum I've ever visited, but the rules sometimes seem downright hysterical.
Is it really worth criticising everyone who makes such a minor "violation," especially in public? Maintaining order is one thing, and a worthy cause, but sometimes it just sounds like people are after a power fix, and that disturbs me.
What specifically are you referring to in this topic?
I posted something about bumping a 6 month old topic when you could have personal messaged him...and then I realized I went too far and deleted the post.
Yes, that's the specific incident in this thread that I'm referring to. Of course, it's not an isolated incident in the forum.
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The Weather Channel's studios in Atlanta, Georgia also have a few WeatherStar 4000s as well as the other remaining Weather Star systems, including the Jr., the XL, the Intellistar, and the Intellistar 2.
Source:
http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1s78yxg3jp7r4 (http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1s78yxg3jp7r4)
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The Weather Channel's studios in Atlanta, Georgia also have a few WeatherStar 4000s as well as the other remaining Weather Star systems, including the Jr., the XL, the Intellistar, and the Intellistar 2.
Source:
[url]http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1s78yxg3jp7r4[/url] ([url]http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1s78yxg3jp7r4[/url])
Cool! How did you get access from them?
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The Weather Channel's studios in Atlanta, Georgia also have a few WeatherStar 4000s as well as the other remaining Weather Star systems, including the Jr., the XL, the Intellistar, and the Intellistar 2.
Source:
[url]http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1s78yxg3jp7r4[/url] ([url]http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1s78yxg3jp7r4[/url])
Makes sense so they can monitor their system.
The Weather Channel's studios in Atlanta, Georgia also have a few WeatherStar 4000s as well as the other remaining Weather Star systems, including the Jr., the XL, the Intellistar, and the Intellistar 2.
Source:
[url]http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1s78yxg3jp7r4[/url] ([url]http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1s78yxg3jp7r4[/url])
Cool! How did you get access from them?
The guy was allowed a tour of the studio! Pics are great
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Has anyone actually seen the front of a 3000? The label on the unit at the bottom of this pic makes me think this is one (even though they are all out of service)
http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/4000-junior?context=user (http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/4000-junior?context=user)
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Has anyone actually seen the front of a 3000? The label on the unit at the bottom of this pic makes me think this is one (even though they are all out of service)
[url]http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/4000-junior?context=user[/url] ([url]http://backyard.weatherbug.com/photo/4000-junior?context=user[/url])
That certainly looks to be a 3000. There was once a picture of the front of a 3000 on support.weather.com. I'll see if I can find the image at some point in the near future.
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I found this picture from 1982ish that has the original WeatherSTAR in it.
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Here's the graphic which was used on support.weather.com in late 2004:
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(https://twctodayforums.com/martin/starpics/photo%20(1).jpg)
I cant remember where i put the shots of the connections on the back
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I never knew TWC still kept their old 3000 units. What I find interesting about these three pictures of the 3000 is that each one of these 3000 units have a different panel on the front. If you look at the first picture (the one with the Jr. and 4000 units), notice how the 3000 at the bottom has "THE WEATHER STAR" logo all in capital letters with a blue background and black text while the second picture shows "The Weather STAR" logo in lower case letters and a white background with black text (kind of hard to tell since its in black & white). The last picture shows what appears to be two Weather STARs stacked up together. Note how the one on top in the third picture has "THE WEATHER STAR" logo all in capital letters again, but this time with a dark navy blue background and white lettering while the one on the bottom in the same picture shows "The Weather STAR" logo in lower case letters again, but this time, with a blue background with black text.
So this makes me wounder: which one is the WeatherSTAR II and which one is the WeatherSTAR III (3000)? I beleve the one from the 1982 picture is the orginal WeatherSTAR I model. I wounder if they changed the labels when they made the Weather STARs I, II, and III?
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My understanding was that the cable companies sent back their old STAR units rebuilt when hardware modifications were necessary (thus becoming a STAR II or III). So, some of the units could of dated back to the beginning (1982).
From "The Improbable Rise of a Media Phenomenon"
"We discovered that our first WeatherSTARs were radiating energy in a way that interfered with the antenna's reception of Channel 2, we developed a way to eliminate the radiation leakage. And thus was invented STAR 2. Then, in 1985, the FCC decided to reduce the spacing between geosynchronous satellites to make room for more satellites. I'll skip the technical aspects of what this entailed for us - suffice it to say they were complicated. We enlisted the help of Wegener Communications in Atlanta and, at the cost of about $2 million, we figured out how to adjust the STAR so that it transmitted out localized weather data differently. And thus was invented STAR 3."
About the Channel 2 interference:
"After much investivation, Galumbeck and his colleagues discovered that although the WeatherSTAR conformed to FCC radiation standards in terms of what was escaping from the unit, the STAR was nevertheless energetically radiating outward through its sensors and wreaking havoc on Channel 2's VHF frequency. The Weather Channel engineers scrambled to seal up the STARs more effectively. THey also added a "doughnut" of ferrite beads - which helped absorb very high frequencies - to all the leads going into and out of the STARs."
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Found the PB 4000 videos- these appear to be genuine.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0UihdNXyko#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0UihdNXyko#[/url])
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8OXzbJ4cnM#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8OXzbJ4cnM#[/url])
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_R5w0uv-M#ws-hd[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_R5w0uv-M#ws-hd[/url])
A suddenlink 4000 :O
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I am surprised that nobody has found a Star 4000 for Wisconsin, yet. I know there might possibly be a few scattered around Green Bay and Appleton, in places like Pulaski, Seymour, or Oconto.
Oconto most likely sees 24808 out of Marinette and Menominee.
No, they don't.
I specifically remember a STAR 3000 with observations for Green Bay in Oconto back in 1994, at a time when Green Bay had the STAR 4000. Oconto most likely sees Intellistar 24804 out of Green Bay because they're part of the Green Bay metropolitan area. Peshtigo probably sees a STAR system with observations for Marinette because they are closest to Marinette. I also remember seeing a STAR 4000 in Oconto Falls, WI from 1994 to 1996, a STAR 3000 in Gillett, WI in 1997, and a STAR Jr. in Pulaski, WI in 1998. All of those STAR systems had observations for Green Bay, WI.
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Here's another Star 4000 that remains, this one located in Ladysmith, Wisconsin:
Chazz' 31st Birthday Gift - Ladysmith, WI - Weatherstar 4000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMxQVYko9RM#)
I'm going to stick around until Green Bay, Wisconsin's WeatherStar 4000 is found.
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Here's another Star 4000 that remains, this one located in Ladysmith, Wisconsin:
Chazz' 31st Birthday Gift - Ladysmith, WI - Weatherstar 4000 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMxQVYko9RM#[/url])
I'm going to stick around until Green Bay, Wisconsin's WeatherStar 4000 is found.
That is a unit in which the user is manipulating the IDs to pull different configs. It is not an actual unit from WI
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(https://twctodayforums.com/martin/starpics/photo%20(1).jpg)
I cant remember where i put the shots of the connections on the back
Here's the ports on the back.
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Here's another Star 4000 that remains, this one located in Ladysmith, Wisconsin:
Chazz' 31st Birthday Gift - Ladysmith, WI - Weatherstar 4000 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMxQVYko9RM#[/url])
I'm going to stick around until Green Bay, Wisconsin's WeatherStar 4000 is found.
That is a unit in which the user is manipulating the IDs to pull different configs. It is not an actual unit from WI
I would like the user to manipulate it so that it is set to Green Bay. I haven't seen a 4000 in Green Bay since 1999.
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That is a unit in which the user is manipulating the IDs to pull different configs. It is not an actual unit from WI
So they have a real 4000 connected to the Weather Channel Satellite feed?
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A 4000 exist in Mitchell, SD with Mitchell Telecom.
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Believe it or not, there are several locations where Weatherstar 4000 exists, and here they are, according to wikipedia (I know, it is not the best site out there for information, but it is better than nothing :yes: ):
City/town, State
-Auburn University, Alabama
-Fairfield Bay, Arkansas
-Pine Bluff, Arkansas
-Lakeville, Connecticut
-Mexico Beach, Florida
-Springfield, Florida
-Belleville, Illinois
-Bellevue, Illinois
-Litchfield, Illinois
-Metropolis, Illinois
-Churdan, Iowa
-Monona, Iowa
-Perry/Lecompton, Kansas
-Topeka, Kansas
-Russell, Kansas
-Fort Polk, Louisiana
-Bel Air, Maryland
-Yale, Michigan (last confirmed in 2006, I hope to be going there this year to re-confirm).
-Muskegon, Michigan
-Brookfield, Missouri
-Kirksville, Missouri
-Taos, New Mexico
-Ocracoke, North Carolina
-Carrington, North Dakota
-Barlow, North Dakota
-New Rockford, North Dakota
-Devils Lake, North Dakota
-Bismarck, North Dakota
-LaGrange, Ohio Cleveland
-Bentleyville, Pennsylvania
-Rochester, Pennsylvania
-Forest City, Pennsylvania
-State College, Pennsylvania
-Walnut Bottom, Pennsylvania
-Weedville, Pennsylvania
-Ramona, South Dakota
-Decatur, Texas Dallas
Enjoy! :biggrin:
There is also a STAR 4000 used in Omak, WA, according to videos I found on YouTube
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Troy Cable in Troy, AL has a backup 4000, should the XL fail. Video:
http://youtu.be/sJ7xPZCiY8o?hd=1 (http://youtu.be/sJ7xPZCiY8o?hd=1)
(above: video of STAR - skip to 3:43 to see the STAR)
(below: video around the STAR with weather ID.......)
WeatherSTAR 4000 in Troy, AL (006942) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vx_hCMpqDw#ws)
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I've heard of cable systems using a more distant STAR in case of failure of the local one, but I don't think I've ever heard of a headend keeping a second, more obsolete, STAR as a backup in case the primary one fails! Very interesting!
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Claytons XL in Mattoon is also servced by a 4000 should the XL fail. There's a video of it on youtube
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I've heard of cable systems using a more distant STAR in case of failure of the local one, but I don't think I've ever heard of a headend keeping a second, more obsolete, STAR as a backup in case the primary one fails! Very interesting!
If I am correct, the XL failed completely, or is just being repaired (possibly an upgrade due to jump of subscribers?). If the local forecast was unavailable, it would just switch to a national feed, but this is pretty sweet.
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I've heard of cable systems using a more distant STAR in case of failure of the local one, but I don't think I've ever heard of a headend keeping a second, more obsolete, STAR as a backup in case the primary one fails! Very interesting!
(possibly an upgrade due to jump of subscribers?)
That has absolutely nothing to do with the headend upgrading their equipment.
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Troy Cable is based out of Troy, AL (which is about 30-45mi away from us) and they have just opened another headend in Ozark, so my thoughts are (just a thought, no need for anybody to jump all over me, correct me if I am wrong) are that they are buying an Intellistar for Ozark, while they are using a plain 4000 that is not programmed for any specific cable company (hence CITY CABLEVISION on the ID screen).
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There is only 1 4000 in New England that I saw on wikipedia. It is located in Northfield Vermont. No Degration on this unit :clap:
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Those people in Northfield are lucky. When I moved to Claremont NH I was hoping there would be a 4000 here since it's much more rural than where I moved from, but was disappointed to see it was still an Intellistar, probably because it's Comcast here. The 4000 where I grew up in CT was replaced by an XL in the late 90s, and of course that too is now an Intellistar.
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The 4000 was an excellent machine for its time, but its time has since passed. Twenty years on, its graphics and even its font are terribly outdated, its abilities, while fantastic in the 1990s, seem very restricted now, and its abilities to change are practically nonexistent. The last change that I know of was to the more square (yet still old) TWC logo, lower-case forecasts, and a change to the radar screen font. After that, I think TWC has just stopped any plans to update it (quite right), and only supports the data feed to it now.
The Jr. is better than nothing, but that's where it ends. The III was discontinued because TWC saw no purpose in spending a lot of money to upgrade a machine that was already 20 years old to meet new FCC regulations. And, other than the fact that it still works and has graphics in addition to text, the 4000 is pretty much at the end of its lifetime, too. Sure, it can go on for another 20 years, probably, or so long as the SD feed exists, but it's never going to grow past what it is now, unlike the Intellistar and (possibly) the XL.
I would be quite unhappy if I had to watch local forecasts generated by a 21-year-old machine every day. Believe me, I LOVED the 4000 when it first came out because it was so much better than what there was before. But it has since become so incredibly outdated that the only reason to keep it is for a small cable company to save money and not upgrade. Other than that, I can think of no reasons at all to favor the 4000 over something newer.
Yes, I do miss the days when the 4000 and even the III were used and when I saw them every day. But that's only nostalgic value. I also miss TWC actually focusing entirely on weather forecasts. I'd love for THAT to return, but... one can only hope.
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The XL can go beyond what it's doing right now, :censored: , it can even handle 3D very well! (I've seen the SGI O2 and 3D graphics)
It's just STAR team and their lazyness. The XL can damn well produce a squeezeback, and if there isn't enough HD space, then they can at least either modify the LDL to work with today's shows, since if it can support transparency, then end of discussion. Speaking of which, Brian should try a squeezeback design.
As for the 4000s and Juniors, they are at their full capabilities. However, they can at least cue an LDL during squeezeback time.
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Speaking of which, Brian should try a squeezeback design.
I think he did
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Is there a video of it somewhere? I must see
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The XL can go beyond what it's doing right now, :censored: , it can even handle 3D very well! (I've seen the SGI O2 and 3D graphics)
But it's not the newest system, and it's not the system preferred by TWC. Therefore, I can understand why they'd rather not waste the money and manpower necessary to reprogram it.
As for the 4000s and Juniors, they are at their full capabilities. However, they can at least cue an LDL during squeezeback time.
That would be awkward looking, I think. And the LDLs on those systems only give the current conditions over and over again, except for whatever 4000s are remaining in large enough markets for the "today's/tomorrow's forecast" line after the conditions. Not worth it.
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Well one things for sure- On the XL, they can redo the LDL at least, there's no excuse for not having one. After all there is times when they don't cue the squeezeback. That isn't much to ask.
As for the 4000 LDL, you're right on that, but it doesn't mean they could just move that today/tomorrow config to all stars, then again it would either be not possible or it would be a great pain, it's really old hardware, so that's understandable.
The XL can have alot more hope though, but the juniors and 4000s, they are just simply SOL.
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They forgot the one in Jefferson, NC. That one's still up.
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Troy Cable is based out of Troy, AL (which is about 30-45mi away from us) and they have just opened another headend in Ozark, so my thoughts are (just a thought, no need for anybody to jump all over me, correct me if I am wrong) are that they are buying an Intellistar for Ozark, while they are using a plain 4000 that is not programmed for any specific cable company (hence CITY CABLEVISION on the ID screen).
The STAR is experiencing text degradation.
Local Forecast July 7 2:08pm (4000) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd0bWQjBBJE#)
May I also ask, does anybody else experience those variation speckles across the screen before and after the STAR on the SD feed?
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I dont see any degradation... :unsure:
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I dont see any degradation... :unsure:
Notice other 4000's, how the text and icons are usually smoothed at the edges, these aren't. They're pixelated.
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I dont see any degradation... :unsure:
Notice other 4000's, how the text and icons are usually smoothed at the edges, these aren't. They're pixelated.
Its supposed to be pixelated :yes: