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Weather Discussion => General Weather Chat => Topic started by: Mr. Rainman on November 08, 2010, 11:47:11 AM
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As the first winter storm of the year meanders its way into New England, bringing snow flakes for the first time for many cities, I figured I'd open this thread to track future systems as the season crawls by. Any noteworthy storms, snow accumulations, or extraordinary low temperatures are encouraged to be mentioned here.
This first storm has a central pressure of about 996 mb, and is delivering a sloshy mix of precipitation all across New England.
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I wish I was there.
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Hopefully Monroe, Michigan will get a snowstorm on Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, and Groundhog Day. I doubt I'll get that lucky. According to a few sites, I may get an accumulating snow around the 20th of November. Too far off for accuracy, though.
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Looking ahead, models are showing a moderately strong low pressure system taking shape across the Midwest over the next 12 hours. What effects it brings, I don't know. Also, models indicate a stronger system already moving east towards Northern Canada. Minimum pressure estimated is 991 mb.
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As the first winter storm of the year meanders its way into New England, bringing snow flakes for the first time for many cities, England.
Not sure if I would call that a winter storm... how about a winter tease :P
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As the first winter storm of the year meanders its way into New England, bringing snow flakes for the first time for many cities, England.
Not sure if I would call that a winter storm... how about a winter tease :P
The weather's a bully now! :o :P
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This has been an incredible winter better than last winter! :D 8 inches of snow so far and there's still plenty of Winter to go! I can't remember the last time I have seen that much snow in one Winter season, up until DC got hit by that winterstorm in late January, we had twice as much snow as they did. Crazy!
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Today was a day that the forecasters blew it. They did not predict the sudden onset of sleet and freezing rain my area experienced today. It was not expected to cause travel difficulties, but numerous accidents occurred on the roads across the Birmingham Metro area. Schools closed early and traffic on the Interstates and other major highways in the area was extremely slow.
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Today was a day that the forecasters blew it. They did not predict the sudden onset of sleet and freezing rain my area experienced today. It was not expected to cause travel difficulties, but numerous accidents occurred on the roads across the Birmingham Metro area. Schools closed early and traffic on the Interstates and other major highways in the area was extremely slow.
Do they even bother to check with other sources(ie NWS)? If not, they should.
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Today was a day that the forecasters blew it. They did not predict the sudden onset of sleet and freezing rain my area experienced today. It was not expected to cause travel difficulties, but numerous accidents occurred on the roads across the Birmingham Metro area. Schools closed early and traffic on the Interstates and other major highways in the area was extremely slow.
Do they even bother to check with other sources(ie NWS)? If not, they should.
Oh yeah. The NWS were among the ones who didn't expect it to get as serious as it did.
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Today was a day that the forecasters blew it. They did not predict the sudden onset of sleet and freezing rain my area experienced today. It was not expected to cause travel difficulties, but numerous accidents occurred on the roads across the Birmingham Metro area. Schools closed early and traffic on the Interstates and other major highways in the area was extremely slow.
Do they even bother to check with other sources(ie NWS)? If not, they should.
Oh yeah. The NWS were among the ones who didn't expect it to get as serious as it did.
If there's going to be blame, it should be on the models also. In situations like this in the South when there's a threat of ice, they tend to perform poorly with temperatures sometimes too warm than what actually transpires. They also tend to be slow with development of the precip at least this Winter that's been the case. That band of rain/mix that showed up in AL/GA last night was not shown on any models to be there so that on it's own was a clear indication that this was a problem from the start.
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Today was a day that the forecasters blew it. They did not predict the sudden onset of sleet and freezing rain my area experienced today. It was not expected to cause travel difficulties, but numerous accidents occurred on the roads across the Birmingham Metro area. Schools closed early and traffic on the Interstates and other major highways in the area was extremely slow.
Do they even bother to check with other sources(ie NWS)? If not, they should.
Oh yeah. The NWS were among the ones who didn't expect it to get as serious as it did.
If there's going to be blame, it should be on the models also. In situations like this in the South when there's a threat of ice, they tend to perform poorly with temperatures sometimes too warm than what actually transpires. They also tend to be slow with development of the precip at least this Winter that's been the case. That band of rain/mix that showed up in AL/GA last night was not shown on any models to be there so that on it's own was a clear indication that this was a problem from the start.
Well, they can't do anything if they don't see it coming. No one can really blame the Meteorologists, but I do hate when the forecast is off like that.
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Well, they can't do anything if they don't see it coming. No one can really blame the Meteorologists, but I do hate when the forecast is off like that.
Too bad more folks don't understand that. :/
Anyway next week could be big. Joe Bastardi is going off as usual comparing next weeks potential storm to surviving a nuclear war. "the week of all weeks as far as winter maybe on the way. "
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Well, they can't do anything if they don't see it coming. No one can really blame the Meteorologists, but I do hate when the forecast is off like that.
Too bad more folks don't understand that. :/
Anyway next week could be big. Joe Bastardi is going off as usual comparing next weeks potential storm to surviving a nuclear war. "the week of all weeks as far as winter maybe on the way. "
People need to also realize how complicated the weather is and how hard it is to make an accurate forecast. Sometimes people think the mets. just look at the clouds and say hmmm... I think it will rain.
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Stop looking at the models and just look out the window.
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Stop looking at the models and just look out the window.
uh yeah, we're supposed to get MORE wintry weather next week. Freezing rain, sleet, snow, arctic temperatures...
Maybe I should move to Florida. :P
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Stop looking at the models and just look out the window.
Maybe I should move to Florida. :P
It hasnt been much better here :no: yesterday was the first time in 5 days I saw the sun then it went back behind clouds today :itsok:
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Stop looking at the models and just look out the window.
Maybe I should move to Florida. :P
It hasnt been much better here :no: yesterday was the first time in 5 days I saw the sun then it went back behind clouds today :itsok:
Active and harsh winters like last year and this year don't even spare Florida. For example, the winter of last year was similar to this year. Last year, in early January, cold arctic air headed south and was unmodified due to moving across the snow pack over the Ohio Valley. In some cases, it was just as cold in parts of Florida as it was here in my portion of Alabama. Brooksville, about 45 minutes north of Tampa, had a low of 14 degrees! :brr: Not only that, but there was snow across the I-75 corridor from Lake City to Gainesville to Ocala.
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Stop looking at the models and just look out the window.
Maybe I should move to Florida. :P
It hasnt been much better here :no: yesterday was the first time in 5 days I saw the sun then it went back behind clouds today :itsok:
Active and harsh winters like last year and this year don't even spare Florida. For example, the winter of last year was similar to this year. Last year, in early January, cold arctic air headed south and was unmodified due to moving across the snow pack over the Ohio Valley. In some cases, it was just as cold in parts of Florida as it was here in my portion of Alabama. Brooksville, about 45 minutes north of Tampa, had a low of 14 degrees! :brr: Not only that, but there was snow across the I-75 corridor from Lake City to Gainesville to Ocala.
Right, we dont get spared :no: Last winter for example, it got down one morning to 19° in the Tampa suburb of Thonotosassa (where i live and its typically 10-15° colder than the city almost every morning) and i was amazed.. Although weve been stuck with cloudy skies, our temps have remained uniform between 65-80 degrees as of late
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Stop looking at the models and just look out the window.
Maybe I should move to Florida. :P
It hasnt been much better here :no: yesterday was the first time in 5 days I saw the sun then it went back behind clouds today :itsok:
Hawaii then? :P
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Stop looking at the models and just look out the window.
Maybe I should move to Florida. :P
It hasnt been much better here :no: yesterday was the first time in 5 days I saw the sun then it went back behind clouds today :itsok:
Hawaii then? :P
Yeah, snows there too! :whistling: In the mountains only thou.
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Anyway next week could be big. Joe Bastardi is going off as usual comparing next weeks potential storm to surviving a nuclear war. "the week of all weeks as far as winter maybe on the way. "
Storm cancel
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Its time for it to warm to 79 :biggrin: and stop raining. Since January, I've been sick 3 times including today :footinmouth: and its so aggravating. :thumbdown:
Anyways, expecting more rain today. Just glad its not ice or snow! Had a few inches(2-4" i think) of rain last week.
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Around Tampa well see rain tonight then wet from Thursday through Saturday then 7 days of sunny wx.. :D Temps return to par with 65-72 and lows 39-51
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So far this season, my area has recieved 40" of snow. The average is 30". (+33%.)
BTW, big warm-up potential for next week.
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BTW, big warm-up potential for next week.
Yeah, that is what I am hearing, too. It's about time. I just wish it would get warm and stay warm. That won't happen until late April or May, where I live. Remember, 18 years ago, what happened in March.
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BTW, big warm-up potential for next week.
Yeah, that is what I am hearing, too. It's about time. I just wish it would get warm and stay warm. That won't happen until late April or May, where I live. Remember, 18 years ago, what happened in March.
Right, the superstorm of 1993. And that year was in a La Nina pattern, just like 2011.
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We might be able to get one more snowfall here :dance: Right before La Nina rears her ugly head. :thumbdown: Oh well I knew that thaw was coming eventually. I'm hoping we do get this snowfall because all we'll need is 2 inches and I'll have my first 10+ inch winter since 1993 and I don't think I have to go any further as to why that year was the last. :happy:
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Old Man Winter may play an April Fool's joke on us before he completely gives out. A major nor'easter is forecast to dump between 6 to 12 inches of snow on areas such as Vermont, Massachusetts, and Maine Thursday and Friday.