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Other => General Discussion => Topic started by: lfmusiclover on August 15, 2007, 12:38:54 PM
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Alright, I need everybody's help. I'm suddenly faced with a very difficult situation, and honestly, I don't know what to do. I got a PM from Matt today stating that he is getting rid of one of the server's he has (he has two), and that the one he's keeping only allows for one domain. While this sounds oddly like an attack against me, I'm going to keep that side of things out of it. He said that he can move all my stuff over to his server, but that would mean a domain like http://twcclassics.com/twctoday, or http://twctoday.twcclassics.com. I don't want to be associated with TWC Classics, so both of those are out. Nothing personal, but this is an independant website, and is going to remain like that or it will cease to exist altogether. I have until the 27th (great notice, eh?) to find anew place to house the site. So, I'm willing to listen to any ideas anyone may have on what I can do for server space. If you have any ideas at all please let me know. At this point this site will close on the 27th.
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I'll host it!!!
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Great! When can we get that done, and how?
Also, how's the update coming?
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Oh great. I hate this kind of bad news. Why does Matt want to get rid of this server? Is this site on Matt's server? Probably yes. Can you convince Matt if there is anyway that you don't have to close this site? Transfering all the stuff from this great site to the new one is going to be a very arduous task.
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Great! When can we get that done, and how?
Also, how's the update coming?
Well, it all depends. Would you want me to stop the database and put more work into hosting your site, or vice-versa?
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Well we've got until the 27th. Do you think you can have BOTH jobs done by then? You were supposed to have the database done last night. Or today. Or tomorrow. Sometime this week at least. :wacko:
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In that case, I will continue to work on the database. If you could back up your site data sometime, that would be great.
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I have all the data ready to go at anytime. 8)
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I have all the data ready to go at anytime. 8)
Excellent. Now i can have your current domain work on my server (it'll cost $25, but i can do that), or i can get you a free subdomain
from DynDNS. Your choice...
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I have all the data ready to go at anytime. 8)
Excellent. Now i can have your current domain work on my server (it'll cost $25, but i can do that), or i can get you a free subdomain
from DynDNS. Your choice...
Wow. So now, not only do I have to pay for the domain name itself, but I also have to pay to have it on your server?
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No, you odn't have to pay for my server. I said it would cost $25 to have a Dynamic DNS type service, and I will cover that if you wish.
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Does Matt even use that DynDNS service at all? :unsure: He's running a website with his own domain perfectly fine
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i'm not sure...
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No, Gil.. You can still host Gary's site.. he just needs to point his MMX records to your server.. It wont cost him anything more then he already is / has payed.
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I thought that was all there was to it Kyle. 8)
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No, Gil.. You can still host Gary's site.. he just needs to point his MMX records to your server.. It wont cost him anything more then he already is / has payed.
Oh ok.
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I thought that was all there was to it Kyle. 8)
Usualy the simplest answer is the right answer, lol..
You may want to check with Gil on what his server speed is.. You may notice a huge difference in speed.
Also, Gil.. What size HD do you have for the server?
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Yeah Gil, please fill me in on your server's specs. 8)
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I have a 60 GB drive. more than enoguh space, seeing as nothing else is using the server.
2 GHz
512mb ram (was planning on upgrading to AT LEAST 1GB)
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That is comparable to, if not better than, Matt's. I think it will work just fine. 8)
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That is comparable to, if not better than, Matt's. I think it will work just fine. 8)
Yes. i wll reformat the drive and reinstall the server stuff. your site will be the only thing using that computer.
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So Gil will be hosting the new website/server space? :huh:
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Great! Well, for the time being focus on the database project. I think we've got enough time to get that done, then focus on migrating everything over to your server.
Nothing will be new Thunder.
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I would still be concerned with your up speed on the network..
Run this test: http://myspeed.visualware.com/
Tell us what speed you get (Once your click test)
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Great! Well, for the time being focus on the database project. I think we've got enough time to get that done, then focus on migrating everything over to your server.
Nothing will be new Thunder.
:dance: Yay! We get to keep this site?
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Yep :yes:
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Yep, the site will be exactly the same..just a new server :)
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Yep, the site will be exactly the same..just a new server :)
Awesome! :)
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Yep. :yes:
Who did you want to do the test Kyle?
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Who did you want to do the test Kyle?
Gil.
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10.4 MBPS Down
1.8 MBPS Up
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Haha thats an awesome down speed, but your up speed.. meh. lol
I guess its worth a shot on your server, things will be tad slower..
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Again, its comparable to, if not better than, Matt's. I think it will be fine.
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Haha thats an awesome down speed, but your up speed.. meh. lol
I guess its worth a shot on your server, things will be tad slower..
Better than most people's 384 KBPS <_<
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Well you can thank Comcast for my delicious speeds :)
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Comcast cable is the best. Worth 57 or 29 bucks. I have Verizon DSl which is advertised as fast but is a gazillion times slower than Comcast High Speed Cable.
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Yeah, comcast's speeds are a lot better than people say they are.
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It ain't worth $57, thats for sure. I'm not even sure its worth the discounted price. <_<
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Yeah, comcast's speeds are a lot better than people say they are.
I've used it. I know what they're speeds are.
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Well you can thank Comcast for my delicious speeds :)
Not around here. I'm getting ~350kbps up and ~4.6mbps down with Comcast. That's why I could never host my own server. <_<
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What were your speeds, Gary?
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That sucks. I would be willing to bet its because the Northeast is overly populated. More people, more computers, more net usages.
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What were your speeds, Gary?
They weren't even a fraction of your supposed speeds. Especially that sky high download speed. :o
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Well like i said, its far more ppopulated there.
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That wasn't the problem. I guarantee it.
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Well then what was? inadequate servers?
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I don't know. That's why I dumped Comcast like a stale loaf of bread. But I know that it had nothing to do with the population.
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I get speeds around 8MB with Cox Cable internet, which is pretty fast. You can get it for only $9.95 a month, too. B)
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holy crap, thats a kickass deal!!! I wish they had Cox around here!!
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$9.95 a month? That's a steal!!! :o
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Wait. Its probably 9.95 a month, for a certain amount of months, then the price goes up. More often than not, thats how it works.
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Yeah, are you sure that $9.95 is the permanent price, and not just some introductory rate?
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Cox is cheaper and faster than Comcast! I wish I had Cox cable in my area as long as they don't provide an intelliSTAR.
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I'm not convinced that $9.95 is the regular rate. :no:
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Yeah, are you sure that $9.95 is the permanent price, and not just some introductory rate?
I'll check their site and see. :yes:
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Yeah, you really have to read the fine print <_<
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Yeah cable co.'s are very good at duping people.
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I can't find it on the website but I'll watch for a commercial, they usually state the prices in the commercial.
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yeah but they often make it impossible to read the fine print on the compucial :(
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Yeah you WON'T get anywhere with the commercial in all likelihood.
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Could be a rip-off offer.
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Well getting it for any period for $9.95 certainly isn't a rip off. But, if they jack it up to $40 or $50 bucks after a few month's, its not really all that great of a deal.
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Gil, Matt told me that we have to transfer the database from his server to yours. He says he can give me an SQL dump file when we're ready to do that, but that he has no idea what needs to be done on your end. Do you know?
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Gil, I can help you with the MySQL end of things if you need..
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Thanks! At least I won't have to worry about that part of things. 8)
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Nah, between all of us things will be alright.. lol
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Nah, between all of us things will be alright.. lol
Yup your right. 8)
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Alright, an update on the situation-I have everything backed up and ready for transfer to the new server. BUT I need Gil to set me up with a username and password for the server so that I can begin transferring everything via FTP. This task takes two minutes. But Gil doesn't have two minutes to spare. SO basically until Gil finds two minutes (two minutes!) to spare, I'm stuck. :rolleyes: >:(
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What is he not here or something?
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No he's not HERE (obviously you can see that! :D), but he is online. Apparently he's doing something that he can't take a couple moments away from. :wacko:
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Another update-as always seems to be the case with Gil something has gone wrong, and will take a week to fix. There's never a quick fix with Gil. And he's supposed to be super smart. Now my understanding is that Kyle is supposed to be trying to get things up and running (I just love it when other people are involved and haven't communicated with me), so basically I'm doomed at this point in time. I want to apologize ahead of time for any possible downtime come the 27th. I have this sneaking suspicion that we won't be ready (and that I'll be highly upset).
At this point, if anyone else can offer some assistance I will take it. I need to do whatever is quickest, and that IS NOT what I'm doing at this point.
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Im working with Gil to get the server running asap.. however if we cant get his working you can put the site on my server.. But until then I aim to get Gil's server working..
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Whatever has to be done I suppose...what's the big deal with Gil's? Everythig was fine earlier, except that my FTP program couldn't understand the server's response once it was connected.... :huh:
I don't know...it just seems like you guys are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Well im working with my site, so that mouatin thing might apply to me.. As for Gil.. I have no clue what hes doing.. Im trying to get his FTA running so that we can access it.. I am going to give him a program that will do the FTP.. Since the one hes using is .. crap.
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I don't really care what you all do as long as I don't have to change the way I've been doing things. I've been using WS_FTP and I will not switch to something else.
And you guys are making more out of this then there is (which is what I meant by the mountain saying). This should not take three days to do. Yes, three days. I've been trying to get this site thing rolling since I created this thread on Tuesday evening.
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I don't really care what you all do as long as I don't have to change the way I've been doing things. I've been using WS_FTP and I will not switch to something else.
Server side ;) Not your client
And you guys are making more out of this then there is (which is what I meant by the mountain saying). This should not take three days to do. Yes, three days. I've been trying to get this site thing rolling since I created this thread on Tuesday evening.
That is cool, if Im making more of this I will slow things down a bit.. I do have a paying job that I havent been to in 3 weeks.. I can't do anything until Gil gets his but back online!
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Just to let you all know....I was told by Gil this morning that the new server is ready, so I will begin transferring all the site files to it either today or tomorrow. I don't expect that there will be any downtime while the site is being move, but should it go down, please bear with me. Also, the URL will NOT change. The site will still be at twctodayforums.com.
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There will be downtime unless you get Gil's servers MMX records, otherwise you cant tell your URL to point to his servers. Also, your email scripts and contacts wont work anymore.
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There will be downtime unless you get Gil's servers MMX records, otherwise you cant tell your URL to point to his servers. Also, your email scripts and contacts wont work anymore.
And how do I do that? It would help to explain that part too. ;)
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I swear, the kid hasnt been on all day! Whats going on?!
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I swear, the kid hasnt been on all day! Whats going on?!
I think his brother left for college today, so Gil's probably out saying goodbye to his brother.
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I swear, the kid hasnt been on all day! Whats going on?!
I think his brother left for college today, so Gil's probably out saying goodbye to his brother.
Yeah he mentioned that in the Say Something About Yourself Thread.
Kyle, you didn't answer my quesiton. :huh:
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There's something wrong with the server still. I can't transfer files to it. It keeps saying the operation failed. You guys gotta figure this out soon or I'm going to have to look for other options.
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did you ask Gil? Has Gil even been online today?
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I haven't seen him yet. But that's why I posted in here. Both he and Kyle will see my post at some point.
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I'm here, and yes, Beanboy is right.
As for the server, I was able to get in and transfer files. If Kyle is on, he will be able to help.
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Heres the fun part, I ping'ed your servers IP about an hour ago.. the machine wasnt even on..
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Heres the fun part, I ping'ed your servers IP about an hour ago.. the machine wasnt even on..
Uhh, it is on...
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I can't find it on the website but I'll watch for a commercial, they usually state the prices in the commercial.
Just saw a Cox High-Speed Internet commercial, and it indeed said, "only $9.95 a month". :yes:
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I can't find it on the website but I'll watch for a commercial, they usually state the prices in the commercial.
Just saw a Cox High-Speed Internet commercial, and it indeed said, "only $9.95 a month". :yes:
Luck you!
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Umm...That doesnt mean its not an introductory rate. again, you have to read the fine print...
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Sheesh.
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Why are you all talking about this here?
Gil, I'll have to wait until tomorrow to test out the server again. My computer is down, and I can't get out to get the part I need until tomorrow.
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Why are you all talking about this here?
Because this is where it originated? :unsure:
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Why are you all talking about this here?
Because this is where it originated? :unsure:
Alright, that's true. But lets try and keep this from straying too far off topic please. 8)
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My computer is down, and I can't get out to get the part I need until tomorrow.
THen how are you on here?
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My computer is down, and I can't get out to get the part I need until tomorrow.
THen how are you on here?
I'm sitting on a computer that is in my workshop, ready to be sold at any moment. :D