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Present - The Weather Channel 2000 => Everything Else TWC => Topic started by: TWCToday on October 06, 2010, 02:05:59 AM
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I have noticed a big effort by TWC to bump up the amount of weather coverage they are providing. Severe weather is exempting long form much more often, top of the hour live updates are frequent, and TWC has started to emphasize local on the 8s again. How do you all think they are doing (OCM choices aside)? I think they are slowly improving although there is still much work to be done.
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I have noticed a big effort by TWC to bump up the amount of weather coverage they are providing. Severe weather is exempting long form much more often, top of the hour live updates are frequent, and TWC has started to emphasize local on the 8s again. How do you all think they are doing (OCM choices aside)? I think they are slowly improving although there is still much work to be done.
I agree, Martin. When I first saw the topic about The Weather Channel's schedule changing, I thought more long-form would be added, and I was pleasantly surprised. It is so nice to come home for lunch and be able to catch an update on the nation's weather. I also noticed a promo yesterday that was focused on local weather and Storm Stories together. It was talking about the live weather updates during the Storm Stories, and local weather all the time on the bottum of the screen. Maybe they are finally realizing what is important to the network. Of course, we probably will never know truly what caused them to change the schedule, but who cares. :P Like you said, Martin, they have a long way to go.
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You must be talking about during the week b/c whenever I look at the schedule on the weekends, it's nothing but long-form programming. Half of the programs, I might add, I've never even heard of.
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A better improvement would to bring back Steele, Davis, and Keneely back, as well.
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A better improvement would to bring back Steele, Davis, and Keneely back, as well.
They will never rehire any OCM's they laid off
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You must be talking about during the week b/c whenever I look at the schedule on the weekends, it's nothing but long-form programming. Half of the programs, I might add, I've never even heard of.
Pretty sure they've doubled the amount of weather programming from 2PM on the weekends with this recent schedule change.
I hope that NBC realizes that they have pretty much a perfect suite of dedicated cable channels (MSNBC for news, TWC for weather, CNBC for business) and keep it that way.
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Is this permanent though or do they just have more to talk about because of the time of year? Hurricane season always gets more eyes to focus on the weather.
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They're gradually going in the right direction, but they still have an awfully LONG way to go. Like Kyle said, I was sure more long form programming would be on this new schedule, but to see some of it being reduced was surprising to me.
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I am simply amazed at overall production with them since August :yes:
I thought to myself with the CNBC reports for business that its basically a rename to the Business barometer section that was on First outlook at the same timeslot.
You must be talking about during the week b/c whenever I look at the schedule on the weekends, it's nothing but long-form programming. Half of the programs, I might add, I've never even heard of.
Thats their form of FCC requirements to educational programming per week :hmm:
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A better improvement would to bring back Steele, Davis, and Keneely back, as well.
They will never rehire any OCM's they laid off
I know, I was just wishing. :)
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You must be talking about during the week b/c whenever I look at the schedule on the weekends, it's nothing but long-form programming. Half of the programs, I might add, I've never even heard of.
Pretty sure they've doubled the amount of weather programming from 2PM on the weekends with this recent schedule change.
What do you mean, Matt (tpirfan28)? :dunno: As far as I still see, long-form still dominates after 2 PM on the weekends. Weather coverage is good in the morning, but except for random one-hour segments, it is very sparse in the afternoon-evenings. That should be fixed.
TWC's new weekday schedule is pretty good, although it's NOT great for those in central time (i.e. me). I used to like watching PM Edition at 4 PM my time, but that obviously can't happen anymore. :no:
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You must be talking about during the week b/c whenever I look at the schedule on the weekends, it's nothing but long-form programming. Half of the programs, I might add, I've never even heard of.
Pretty sure they've doubled the amount of weather programming from 2PM on the weekends with this recent schedule change.
What do you mean, Matt (tpirfan28)? :dunno: As far as I still see, long-form still dominates after 2 PM on the weekends. Weather coverage is good in the morning, but except for random one-hour segments, it is very sparse in the afternoon-evenings. That should be fixed.
TWC's new weekday schedule is pretty good, although it's NOT great for those in central time (i.e. me). I used to like watching PM Edition at 4 PM my time, but that obviously can't happen anymore. :no:
You now get 3 hours of weather instead of two. PME now comes on at 4, 7, 10, and 1 AM ET (dunno fully about 1 AM though)
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A better improvement would to bring back Steele, Davis, and Keneely back, as well.
Which is why I said "OCM choices aside"
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Yes, it is getting better, though the OCM layoffs definitely sour the improvements.
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It's cool that TWC is getting back into weather, but they still have a long way to go. They need to get rid of the longform and stop firing the good OCMs.
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They need to get rid of the longform and stop firing the good OCMs.
That won't happen, so you'll have to get over it.
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I see that nobody got the hint that this topic was not to discuss TWCs choice of OCMs :rolleyes:
As far as weekends go I am not as concerned with those two days personally. If you look at live TV content, even news channels use long form and taped shows on the weekends. I am not really going to hold TWC's choice to operate as they are now on the weekends against them. I think personally that weekends are a good time for longform.
With the new time changes TWC has made with their weekday programming, they have worked it around the typical broadcast times of local news/weather broadcasts on the east coast. When Day Planner ends, most local stations broadcast from 5-7 including national news. I think it is smart to work with this and try not to directly compete with these newscasts. :yes:
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I see that nobody got the hint that this topic was not to discuss TWCs choice of OCMs :rolleyes:
I think this is a major issue with many of us here, and it's not just going to go away.
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Guys, please, Martin specifically said not to count the OCM layoffs as a part of judging TWC in this thread. :hammer:
How do you all think they are doing (OCM choices aside)?
I know we all dislike the OCM situation, but that's not really what we're talking about in this thread. ;)
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When Day Planner ends, most local stations broadcast from 5-7 including national news. I think it is smart to work with this and try not to directly compete with these newscasts. :yes:
Even on the west coast (the news airing 2-4 PM)?
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Guys, please, Martin specifically said not to count the OCM layoffs as a part of judging TWC in this thread. :hammer:
How do you all think they are doing (OCM choices aside)?
I know we all dislike the OCM situation, but that's not really what we're talking about in this thread. ;)
OCMs are literally the "human face" of the channel, so, instructions aside, it is just hard to not focus on this issue.
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Guys, please, Martin specifically said not to count the OCM layoffs as a part of judging TWC in this thread. :hammer:
How do you all think they are doing (OCM choices aside)?
I know we all dislike the OCM situation, but that's not really what we're talking about in this thread. ;)
OCMs are literally the "human face" of the channel, so, instructions aside, it is just hard to not focus on this issue.
Then how about doing everyone a favor and stick to ONE THREAD for these views? A lot of people here are getting sick and tired of seeing the same stuff spread to every single thread on these forums. I would recommend starting a separate thread JUST FOR THIS TOPIC ALONE. Just my two cents. :smoke2: [/rant]
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When Day Planner ends, most local stations broadcast from 5-7 including national news. I think it is smart to work with this and try not to directly compete with these newscasts. :yes:
Even on the west coast (the news airing 2-4 PM)?
I meant really just the east coast.
Is this permanent though or do they just have more to talk about because of the time of year? Hurricane season always gets more eyes to focus on the weather.
That is a good point! We will see I guess when hurricane season ends.
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I still think they're into news and other crap you can turn to CNN or Entertainment Tonight. Earlier this morning on TWC, some news lady from NBC started talking about Justin Bieber's album. :rolleyes:
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I still think they're into news and other crap you can turn to CNN or Entertainment Tonight. Earlier this morning on TWC, some news lady from NBC started talking about Justin Bieber's album. :rolleyes:
News = Views = $$
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I still think they're into news and other crap you can turn to CNN or Entertainment Tonight. Earlier this morning on TWC, some news lady from NBC started talking about Justin Bieber's album. :rolleyes:
News = Views = $$
Not to mention, Longform = Views = $$
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I still think they're into news and other crap you can turn to CNN or Entertainment Tonight. Earlier this morning on TWC, some news lady from NBC started talking about Justin Bieber's album. :rolleyes:
News = Views = $$
Not to mention, Longform = Views = $$
I doubt that... the long form slots now are at places when local news is present in the east coast/west coast markets
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Whatever the case may be, TWC has become a cash cow. That wasn't the case back in their early days.
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It's cool that TWC is getting back into weather, but they still have a long way to go. They need to get rid of the longform and stop firing the good OCMs.
I agree. I thought they would never be this devoted to weather, again. I, myself, have not watched it much, lately, but I believe what I have read in this thread. There is still definately lots more room for improvement, though.
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Whatever the case may be, TWC has become a cash cow. That wasn't the case back in their early days.
That's what all companies are nowadays.
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Maybe it is a sign that they are willing to take the risk to add part of a timeslot back for weather if the economy starts to recover a bit.
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It is cool that they have the weather updates during longform. However, I wonder why they use the full screen only for those updates, rather than use it in general.
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News = Views = $$
Not exactly. Adding a wider variety of content and stories keeps people interested and watching. The way ratings are done means the longer you watch the higher the ratings. Higher ratings add up to higher advertising rates and more demand for ads.
Whatever the case may be, TWC has become a cash cow. That wasn't the case back in their early days.
I have no idea where you guys are getting this idea. The single most important goal of a company is to make a profit. That never has changed. User experience and quality products are second. TWC's goal has been to make a profit from the get go. The only thing different now is that NBC is more aggressive with improving profits than Landmark was.
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Here's an article on NBC's Weather Channel Revamp Forecasts Strong Chance of Less Weather
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414)
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Here's an article on NBC's Weather Channel Revamp Forecasts Strong Chance of Less Weather
[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414[/url] ([url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414[/url])
Just think, before I went to college for my broadcast meterology degree, I thought the Weather Channel was my dream job......yeah not so much..
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Here's an article on NBC's Weather Channel Revamp Forecasts Strong Chance of Less Weather
[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414[/url] ([url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414[/url])
Just think, before I went to college for my broadcast meterology degree, I thought the Weather Channel was my dream job......yeah not so much..
I lost that dream 5, even 6 years ago. The Weather Channel does not seem like a great place to work. Maybe behind the scenes..
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Here's an article on NBC's Weather Channel Revamp Forecasts Strong Chance of Less Weather
[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414[/url] ([url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414[/url])
Just think, before I went to college for my broadcast meterology degree, I thought the Weather Channel was my dream job......yeah not so much..
I lost that dream 5, even 6 years ago. The Weather Channel does not seem like a great place to work. Maybe behind the scenes..
Why does NBC have to do this to TWC!!!! :fire: :cry3:
In actuality, I knew TWC would go in this direction eventually. <_< Just as long as there is still LOT8s and music, I'm fine. :yes:
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Once upon a time, each cable network had its own distinct identity and its own reason for being. Roughly 10-15 years ago, they started to slowly meld into a little bit of the same thing on each network, with just a hint of what previously made each network unique.
For example, "Sci Fi" is now "SyFy" to downplay its previous focus on science fiction. "The Learning Channel" is now "TLC," and its programming is now lacking in anything that could be termed "learning." "ABC Family" keeps the word "Family" in its name because it is contractually obligated to do so, but that's where anything "Family" begins and ends. Fox News and MSNBC are no longer news organizations, but "analysis and opinion" networks, although only MSNBC openly states that. Basically, it's only ESPN that hasn't changed its focus over the decades.
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Here's an article on NBC's Weather Channel Revamp Forecasts Strong Chance of Less Weather
[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414[/url] ([url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbcs-weather-channel-revamp-forecasts-32414[/url])
I made a thread about it. Go here. (https://twctodayforums.com/forums/programming/twc-revamp-strong-chance-of-less-weather-coverage/msg142872/#msg142872)
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Whatever the case may be, TWC has become a cash cow. That wasn't the case back in their early days.
That's what all companies are nowadays.
That's true, indeed. :yes:
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Once upon a time, each cable network had its own distinct identity and its own reason for being. Roughly 10-15 years ago, they started to slowly meld into a little bit of the same thing on each network, with just a hint of what previously made each network unique.
For example, "Sci Fi" is now "SyFy" to downplay its previous focus on science fiction. "The Learning Channel" is now "TLC," and its programming is now lacking in anything that could be termed "learning." "ABC Family" keeps the word "Family" in its name because it is contractually obligated to do so, but that's where anything "Family" begins and ends. Fox News and MSNBC are no longer news organizations, but "analysis and opinion" networks, although only MSNBC openly states that. Basically, it's only ESPN that hasn't changed its focus over the decades.
What about CNN?
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Once upon a time, each cable network had its own distinct identity and its own reason for being. Roughly 10-15 years ago, they started to slowly meld into a little bit of the same thing on each network, with just a hint of what previously made each network unique.
For example, "Sci Fi" is now "SyFy" to downplay its previous focus on science fiction. "The Learning Channel" is now "TLC," and its programming is now lacking in anything that could be termed "learning." "ABC Family" keeps the word "Family" in its name because it is contractually obligated to do so, but that's where anything "Family" begins and ends. Fox News and MSNBC are no longer news organizations, but "analysis and opinion" networks, although only MSNBC openly states that. Basically, it's only ESPN that hasn't changed its focus over the decades.
What about CNN?
CNN isnt NBC owned..
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Whatever the case may be, TWC has become a cash cow. That wasn't the case back in their early days.
That's what all companies are nowadays.
That's true, indeed. :yes:
I agree, big corprations are evil.
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I agree, big corprations are evil.
Thats not a fair statement. There are plenty of good big corporations/companies
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I agree, big corprations are evil.
Thats not a fair statement. There are plenty of good big corporations/companies
But NBC is evil. :yes:
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I agree, big corprations are evil.
Thats not a fair statement. There are plenty of good big corporations/companies
But NBC is evil. :yes:
That works :P
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I agree, big corprations are evil.
Thats not a fair statement. There are plenty of good big corporations/companies
But NBC is evil. :yes:
That works :P
Look, I agree that not all big corperations are evil, I just think NBC is since they ruined TWC.
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I agree, big corprations are evil.
Thats not a fair statement. There are plenty of good big corporations/companies
But NBC is evil. :yes:
That works :P
Look, I agree that not all big corperations are evil, I just think NBC is since they ruined TWC.
NBC didnt ruin all of TWC.. yes they put Al Roker on it but is it NBCs on what segments they air and how the schedule is arranged?
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I agree, big corprations are evil.
Thats not a fair statement. There are plenty of good big corporations/companies
But NBC is evil. :yes:
That works :P
Look, I agree that not all big corperations are evil, I just think NBC is since they ruined TWC.
NBC didnt ruin all of TWC.. yes they put Al Roker on it but is it NBCs on what segments they air and how the schedule is arranged?
Yeah, to be fair, TWC were ruining themselves before NBC got to them. They were responsible for starting things like propagandizing Global Warming by slamming it in our faces every chance they got when Dr. Heidi Cullen was there pre-NBC. (Not to say that Global Warming is real or fake, but I didn't like to have to constantly hear about how driving like 5 miles to a Mc Donalds will mean losing thousands of ice caps in the arctic.)
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I agree, big corprations are evil.
Thats not a fair statement. There are plenty of good big corporations/companies
But NBC is evil. :yes:
That works :P
Look, I agree that not all big corperations are evil, I just think NBC is since they ruined TWC.
NBC didnt ruin all of TWC.. yes they put Al Roker on it but is it NBCs on what segments they air and how the schedule is arranged?
Yeah, to be fair, TWC were ruining themselves before NBC got to them. They were responsible for starting things like propagandizing Global Warming by slamming it in our faces every chance they got when Dr. Heidi Cullen was there pre-NBC. (Not to say that Global Warming is real or fake, but I didn't like to have to constantly hear about how driving like 5 miles to a Mc Donalds will mean losing thousands of ice caps in the arctic.)
TWC has been declining ever since the 2005 relaunch. The NBC buyout only sped up that decline.
Then again, this has probably been said so many times before.
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I agree, big corprations are evil.
Thats not a fair statement. There are plenty of good big corporations/companies
But NBC is evil. :yes:
That works :P
Look, I agree that not all big corperations are evil, I just think NBC is since they ruined TWC.
NBC didnt ruin all of TWC.. yes they put Al Roker on it but is it NBCs on what segments they air and how the schedule is arranged?
Yeah, to be fair, TWC were ruining themselves before NBC got to them. They were responsible for starting things like propagandizing Global Warming by slamming it in our faces every chance they got when Dr. Heidi Cullen was there pre-NBC. (Not to say that Global Warming is real or fake, but I didn't like to have to constantly hear about how driving like 5 miles to a Mc Donalds will mean losing thousands of ice caps in the arctic.)
TWC has been declining ever since the 2005 relaunch. The NBC buyout only sped up that decline.
Then again, this has probably been said so many times before.
I agree that TWC was aready declining since the logo change five years ago. Even Weatherscan isn't the same anymore, (I personaly perfered it back durring the XL and early Intellistar days, I don't like how they added so much stuff running at once on Weatherscan).
Even shortly before NBC's takeover, the HD overhaul back in 2008 made things worse (even in HD). I still think TWC is going to continue to add more long form programing and less weather coverage. :angry:
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Yeah, to be fair, TWC were ruining themselves before NBC got to them. They were responsible for starting things like propagandizing Global Warming by slamming it in our faces every chance they got when Dr. Heidi Cullen was there pre-NBC. (Not to say that Global Warming is real or fake, but I didn't like to have to constantly hear about how driving like 5 miles to a Mc Donalds will mean losing thousands of ice caps in the arctic.)
Very true. Though I am not sure if I would actually prefer climate based shows over some of the shows they have now. Lesser of two evils? At least the climate shows were weather related.I agree that TWC was aready declining since the logo change five years ago. Even Weatherscan isn't the same anymore, (I personaly perfered it back durring the XL and early Intellistar days, I don't like how they added so much stuff running at once on Weatherscan).
Even shortly before NBC's takeover, the HD overhaul back in 2008 made things worse (even in HD). I still think TWC is going to continue to add more long form programing and less weather coverage. :angry:
Weatherscan hasn't changed in 5+ years :wacko: You are upset because a 24/7 weather channel loops a few more slides of info? I am just curious why you thought the HD launch made things worse?
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quote from that article "Scott points out we have iPads now, so this whole covering weather on TV is just getting silly" WHAT THE HECK thats what the weather channel started out to be and thats what it should be now!!!!!!!
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After all this talk about NBCU destroying TWC, I'm just glad TWC wasn't bought by Viacom.