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Title: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Lightning on June 05, 2010, 10:32:22 PM
Right now, there is a tornado outbreak unfolding in the midwest, with tornadoes in Illinois and TWC is giving NO coverage, no updates, no nothing, except stupid storm stories hurricane week. They are not doing what they are there to do. It makes me  :angry: I see a hook echo on WGN radar and twc is refusing to give. It's sad. :(
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: TWCToday on June 05, 2010, 10:39:17 PM
This is nothing new. If by lost its way you mean making more money and oddly enough increasing ratings and viewers while sacrificing weather programming,  then yes. They are using the dual feed. Its sad but the topic has been beaten to death. Sad facts are they will do whatever it takes to get their numbers up. People are stupid enough to watch it apparently. As I have said before, who really turns to the Weather Channel over a local news station which covers a local storm in more detail and information then TWC ever could. Just saying anyways
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: jtmal0723 on June 05, 2010, 10:44:48 PM
If you don't like it, don't watch it!(tm)
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: wxmediafan on June 05, 2010, 10:49:47 PM
It does not look like things are going to change anytime soon, so we are just going to have to live with it. 

As Martin stated, local stations are the best way to get information on severe weather in your area. 
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Lightning on June 05, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
They are selfish...people's lives are more important then their ratings.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 05, 2010, 11:00:07 PM
I never watched TWC when there's a tornado outbreak in my area, I watch my local ABC affiliate mainly because even when TWC did or does severe wx coverage they are covering the whole region or regions affected as they should be, but when your really worrying about what's happening in your neck of the woods and not two or three states away, it's no point in watching them anyway, but I can understand your frustration.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: TWCToday on June 05, 2010, 11:03:33 PM
I never watched TWC when there's a tornado outbreak in my area, I watch my local ABC affiliate mainly because even when TWC did or does severe wx coverage they are covering the whole region or regions affected as they should be, but when your really worrying about what's happening in your neck of the woods and not two or three states away, it's no point in watching them anyway, but I can understand your frustration.
Exactly. Nobody is their right mind would watch TWC over local coverage if a friggin tornado is on their house. TWC is by far on the last places people are going to get critical alerts. Hurricanes are when TWC really shines since its not as unpredictable and are slower.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Mike M on June 05, 2010, 11:05:00 PM
If you don't like it, don't watch it!(tm)
Do you like the current state of TWC Jesse?
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: WeatherWitness on June 05, 2010, 11:15:00 PM
And this reason is exactly why I 100% DESPISE all of TWC's ads promoting how they actively cover severe weather, etc. Like everyone else here, I would NEVER turn to TWC for any type of severe coverage in my area. :no:  Do you think any average viewer tunes into TWC for severe coverage, or do they tune-in to all the :censored: long-form? :angry:

I wish we could have a "chart" or something to show WHAT the average-viewer watches most on TWC. :yes:
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2010, 11:29:30 PM
The average viewer wants to see Storm Stories, When Weather Changed History, Cantore Stories, etc.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Zach on June 05, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
TWC doesn't care anymore. Heck, they're becoming an MSNBC duplicate.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Spring Rubber on June 05, 2010, 11:59:46 PM
Like they just said at the end of PM Edition, "Stay safe out there, we'll be back with you tomorrow"

It doesn't matter that there are 10 active tornado warnings. If it's on a weekend, TWC couldn't care less about it. As we all know, weather doesn't happen on weekends.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: jtmal0723 on June 06, 2010, 12:01:08 AM
Like they just said at the end of PM Edition, "Stay safe out there, we'll be back with you tomorrow"

It doesn't matter that there are 10 active tornado warnings. If it's on a weekend, TWC couldn't care less about it. As we all know, weather doesn't happen on weekends.
twelve
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Eric on June 06, 2010, 12:11:01 AM
And this reason is exactly why I 100% DESPISE all of TWC's ads promoting how they actively cover severe weather, etc.  Like everyone else here, I would NEVER turn to TWC for any type of severe coverage in my area. :no: Do you think any average viewer tunes into TWC for severe coverage, or do they tune-in to all the :censored: long-form? :angry:

Actually, the local Boston stations rarely have in-depth coverage of severe weather, except for blizzards and the rare hurricane.  And even in the case of blizzards, we're so used to them that the coverage tapers off after a couple of hours.

In terms of severe thunderstorms, however, the most you'd expect from a Boston station is a couple of minutes at the :00 and :30 before returning to regular programming.

I was in the Orlando area this winter, and their local stations suspended all programming to cover severe weather from the first second until the all-clear.  The Boston area had a tornado watch for most of the afternoon, but there was hardly a peep about it on the local stations, except for during the regular news broadcasts.

So, in my case, I do turn to The Weather Channel during severe weather, because they're more likely to have more coverage on it.  Well, that was until The Weather Channel became an entertainment network, but at least now there's Weatherscan, so I can read the warnings on the bottom of the screen and watch the storms move on radar.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: phw115wvwx on June 06, 2010, 12:43:58 AM
This whole topic is way too old just like Martin said.  Yes, I wish TWC would show more weather, but there's sadly nothing we can do about it.  Besides, you shouldn't be depending on just TWC for weather warnings.  You should rely more on a NOAA weather radio, internet access, or a local TV station to get the warnings from the National Weather Service.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Eric on June 06, 2010, 10:30:30 AM
You should rely more on a NOAA weather radio

Mine's been going crazy with the recent severe thunderstorm and tornado advisories.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Localonthe8s on June 06, 2010, 11:43:31 AM
I never watched TWC when there's a tornado outbreak in my area, I watch my local ABC affiliate mainly because even when TWC did or does severe wx coverage they are covering the whole region or regions affected as they should be, but when your really worrying about what's happening in your neck of the woods and not two or three states away, it's no point in watching them anyway, but I can understand your frustration.
Hurricanes are when TWC really shines since its not as unpredictable and are slower.
Exactly, this is when TWC gets most of their ratings and viewership in one setting.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: twcclassics on June 06, 2010, 12:29:37 PM
I agree with Martin and Jesse. The topic has been beaten to death. Of course, TWC has lost its way. It did so YEARS ago. The days of being able to rely on TWC to keep you safe during bad weather are long gone. If you still use it during a tornado or a hurricane, you're screwed.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: TWCToday on June 06, 2010, 03:09:47 PM
I agree with Martin and Jesse. The topic has been beaten to death. Of course, TWC has lost its way. It did so YEARS ago. The days of being able to rely on TWC to keep you safe during bad weather are long gone. If you still use it during a tornado or a hurricane, you're screwed.
Glad someone agrees. We have been whining about the same things over and over again. I think its clear most of us do not like the changes ( but you still watch TWC anyways). TWC doesn't get half the credit they deserve for the good things they do. When it comes straight down to it I agree with Jesse. If it really bothers you so much and you do not like The Weather Channel for what its become,  then stop watching it. Some of the stuff I have seen is crazy. Lets try to appreciate some of the good things about TWC rather than continuously look at the bad things.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 06, 2010, 03:57:20 PM
Okay, yes, I'm disappointed in TWC's lack of coverage during the outbreak last afternoon/evening.  Being in the area and fed Storm Stories, yeah.  Dual-feed was never used.  This would be an ideal time for the STAR to go into some sort of Weatherscan mode that can loop a 2min local with the music on the system or so.

What I'm more pissed about is the double-standard.  They preempted long-form today because the same front is hitting NE.  All I ask is that their preemption policy is uniform.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Zach on June 06, 2010, 04:04:11 PM
They hardly cover stuff on the west coast and seem to try to always avoid Florida. So I'm with you Matt on evening preemtions.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: toxictwister00 on June 06, 2010, 04:41:34 PM
They hardly cover stuff on the west coast and seem to try to always avoid Florida. So I'm with you Matt on evening preemtions.

You're just figuring out how bias TWC is to certain areas? If this tornado outbreak last night had of been happening in Georgia and not over the MW, they wouldn't dare show long form programming.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: twcclassics on June 06, 2010, 04:43:14 PM
Lets try to appreciate some of the good things about TWC rather than continuously look at the bad things.
Really? Like what? :thinking:
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Zach on June 06, 2010, 05:00:22 PM
They hardly cover stuff on the west coast and seem to try to always avoid Florida. So I'm with you Matt on evening preemtions.

You're just figuring out how bias TWC is to certain areas? If this tornado outbreak last night had of been happening in Georgia and not over the MW, they wouldn't dare show long form programming.
I started realizing that when they didn't show my iWitness stuff, but I didn't want to discuss it until it became a fad around the forum. :hmm:
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: jtmal0723 on June 06, 2010, 09:42:34 PM
They hardly cover stuff on the west coast and seem to try to always avoid Florida. So I'm with you Matt on evening preemtions.

You're just figuring out how bias TWC is to certain areas? If this tornado outbreak last night had of been happening in Georgia and not over the MW, they wouldn't dare show long form programming.
I started realizing that when they didn't show my iWitness stuff, but I didn't want to discuss it until it became a fad around the forum. :hmm:
Probably because it always rains in Florida. It's nothing to get excited over.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: TWCToday on June 06, 2010, 11:13:11 PM
Lets try to appreciate some of the good things about TWC rather than continuously look at the bad things.
Really? Like what? :thinking:
I still enjoy lot of stuff on TWC. Am I the only one? :unsure: I like the local forecasts, tech revolving around it, majority of shows (ie Weather Center, Weekend Now), most of the OCMs, show graphics, etc.

I started realizing that when they didn't show my iWitness stuff, but I didn't want to discuss it until it became a fad around the forum. :hmm:
What didn't they show? They show stuff I send in. Sometimes though tornado or storm videos outweigh other submissions   :hmm:
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: wxmediafan on June 07, 2010, 12:36:34 AM
Lets try to appreciate some of the good things about TWC rather than continuously look at the bad things.
Really? Like what? :thinking:
I still enjoy lot of stuff on TWC. Am I the only one? :unsure: I like the local forecasts, tech revolving around it, majority of shows (ie Weather Center, Weekend Now), most of the OCMs, show graphics, etc.

I started realizing that when they didn't show my iWitness stuff, but I didn't want to discuss it until it became a fad around the forum. :hmm:
What didn't they show? They show stuff I send in. Sometimes though tornado or storm videos outweigh other submissions   :hmm:
I am sure The Weather Channel gets bundles of iWitness submissions.  They certainly do not have room for all of them.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Anistorm on June 07, 2010, 01:57:42 AM
or they don't have the time to put them on air....

Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: bumwolf on June 07, 2010, 03:52:03 AM
Not just the weather channel.  Most stations if it's the weekend they couldn't give a flip.  We had a tornado outbreak here a few weeks back.  The local news station barely would break in because of the Kentucky Derby coverage.  When college football is going on we are lucky to get a crawl across a part of the screen.  Fortunately the weather channel was giving coverage that afternoon so I was able to see a radar.  Folks who live out in the sticks or on fringe of viewing areas rely on Satellite for coverage and TWC.  At least around here internet and cell coverage is spotty at best.  TWC.com isn't 56k friendly these days.  NOAA weather radio is no replacement for a live look at a Radar.

Another note if a tornado outbreak is going on.  No matter what part of the country I want to see it.  The so called 24/5 news channels aren't going to cover it.  Unless a major politician or celebrity get caught up in it of course.  Lord help us is Britney Spears gets sent to the land of OZ touring Kansas one summer.  Cable/Satellite bills go up quality of programs go down.  This dead horse is officially beaten.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Darr'chelle on June 07, 2010, 11:37:53 PM
Some of the "weather hype" has rubbed off on local TV in the last decade or so. One of my stations' weather departments here is called the "Desert Doppler 15 HD Forecast Center". Really.

That said, this is the reason I want in television: because downward spirals are alarming to me. TWC and all five of the stations here are no exception.

I wish I could go back to 1994 at times. Yeah, the technology sucked a bit, but television news was WAY more interesting.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: wxntrafficfan on June 09, 2010, 05:36:54 PM
So can someone tell me how shows that are milked dry and aired 3 times in one evening boosts ratings and increases viewership? All it is is money money money. Save money by being too lazy to have an OCM be on TV. You'd think by now that with the constant LF sponsors (many of which are now animated, which pisses me off), ads on the LDL every time it cues, ads in every last place you could possibly think of, and but 2 hours per 14 of actual programming, that they would have eliminated any obvious deficits.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Mike M on June 09, 2010, 06:28:16 PM
So can someone tell me how shows that are milked dry and aired 3 times in one evening boosts ratings and increases viewership?
So people in all time zones can have a chance to see it.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Zach on June 09, 2010, 07:00:22 PM
Again with the crazy ideas, why not send different feed to the Eastern/Central Zones and the Mountain/Pacific Zones? Just so people can see programming at 4 and 7 instead of 4, doesn't do TWC any favors.
That wouldn't work for satellite viewers without costing more money. That would mean that DirecTV and Dish would have to have 4 different feeds of TWC (TWC SD/HD East and TWC SD/HD West). More problems include that they would have to use different studios, which would cost more $$, and more signals would need to be sent up into space.
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: TWCToday on June 09, 2010, 09:58:31 PM
All it is is money money money.
Thats every TV channel or business. Its about making as much money as possible. If reducing the quality of programming reduces costs and keeps viewership the same or higher its a win for them
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: Jake on June 09, 2010, 10:18:56 PM
I no longer am a fan of the weather channel. Its just that simple. I am sick and tired of seeing long form programming on during the weekends, and now during the most important times of prime time. If people tune into the Weather channel, its not to watch long form, the average viewer wants to see the forecast..
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: CartoonJazzLover on June 18, 2010, 04:53:09 AM
I no longer am a fan of the weather channel. Its just that simple. I am sick and tired of seeing long form programming on during the weekends, and now during the most important times of prime time. If people tune into the Weather channel, its not to watch long form, the average viewer wants to see the forecast..
Agreed. 4 straight hours of longform: waste of time
Title: Re: Has TWC lost its way?
Post by: jtmal0723 on June 18, 2010, 07:49:16 AM
I no longer am a fan of the weather channel. Its just that simple. I am sick and tired of seeing long form programming on during the weekends, and now during the most important times of prime time. If people tune into the Weather channel, its not to watch long form, the average viewer wants to see the forecast..
Agreed. 4 straight hours of longform: waste of time
Whose time is it wasting, Mr. Saenz?